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    <date>2026-08-13</date>
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            <a href="Chamber" type="">Thursday, 13 August 2026</a>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">The SPEAKER (</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Hon.</span>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Milton Dick</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">) </span>took the chair at 09:00, made an acknowledgement of country and read prayers.</span>
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          <title>Suspension of Standing and Sessional Orders</title>
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              <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
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              <electorate>Watson</electorate>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent the whole debate time limit on the motion to take note of the Standing Committee on Education—Security and prosperity in Asia: Building Asia capability in Australia through the education system and beyond report being removed.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">For the information of members, normally take-note debates for reports are limited to one hour. On this report, a whole lot more than that wanted to speak. It's in the Federation Chamber. This removes the one-hour limit so that members are able to continue speaking.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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          <page.no>1</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill and explanatory memorandum presented by <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms </span><span style="font-weight:bold;">Wells</span>.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a first time.</span>
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            <page.no>1</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
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                <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                    <a href="264121" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms WELLS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:02</span>):  I move:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Introduction</span>
                  </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Journalism matters.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It matters to our democracy, to the health and cohesion of our communities, and to Australians who rely on trusted reporting to understand what is happening locally, nationally and around the world.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But quality journalism does not happen on its own.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It is reliant on skilled journalists, strong newsrooms and sustainable news organisations.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In a 24-hour news cycle, people expect news to be accurate, timely and available—wherever they live.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">To deliver this, Australia needs more journalists, not fewer, because journalists are the lifeblood of Australian news.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">They tell our stories, they hold governments and institutions to account and they provide Australians with the information that they need.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The News Bargaining Incentive is not intended to raise revenue.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Its purpose is to encourage commercial deals between digital platforms and news publishers, as was envisioned under the previous news media and digital platforms mandatory bargaining code.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">To be clear—the government's firm preference is that publishers do deals with platforms and platforms do deals with publishers.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">News content contributes to engagement, to trust and to the overall value of major digital platforms.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It enriches their feeds. It drives revenue. And that is why platforms should make a commercial contribution to sustaining it.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And if they don't—they will end up paying more.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The incentive responds to the imbalance in bargaining power between large digital platforms and Australian news publishers.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That imbalance is particularly acute for small publishers, which do not have the same resources or commercial leverage as larger organisations.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">If digital platforms decide to pay the charge, instead of making commercial deals, there must be a fit-for-purpose mechanism to return that revenue to Australian journalism.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is what this bill does.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Any revenue raised by the News Bargaining Incentive will be used to support the sustainability of news and journalism in Australia.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill establishes the News Journalism Payment Scheme, which will distribute any revenue raised by the News Bargaining Incentive to eligible Australian news organisations, supporting a sustainable, diverse and independent news sector.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It will use a statutory, formula based model to provide stable, transparent and proportionate funding based on investment in public interest journalism.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Context</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">A high-quality and trusted journalism sector is fundamental to Australia's democracy and the way we live.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">A rich and diverse media landscape keeps Australians informed, connects local communities, helps combat misinformation and disinformation, and supports social cohesion.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Local journalists report on the decisions and events that directly affect the people they serve.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">They cover councils, schools, courts, businesses and neighbourhoods.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But quality journalism is costly to produce. And the economics of producing news has changed.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The commercial revenue that once supported news production is diminishing.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Advertising income has been significantly eroded by the shift to online—a market dominated by the same digital platforms that do not compensate Australian journalism.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Between 2006 and 2022, the commercial broadcasters share of Australian advertising expenditure fell from 43 per cent to 17 per cent as advertisers moved their spending online.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That decline threatens Australians access to quality public interest journalism.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is why the government is creating a statutory solution to support public interest journalism and the journalists who produce it.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Key </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">provisions </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">of the </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">bill</span>
                  </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>The News Journalism Payment Scheme will distribute any revenue raised by the News Bargaining Incentive to eligible Australian news organisations.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian Communications and Media Authority administers the register of eligible news businesses under the news media bargaining code.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">News businesses will need to be registered to apply for a payment under the News Journalism Payment Scheme.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There will be two payment periods following the collection of any revenue through the News Bargaining Incentive.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Payments will be allocated according to the number of journalists an organisation employs, including freelancers.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Put simply: the more journalists an organisation employs, the larger its payment will be.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Eligible roles will include journalists, photojournalists, videographers, data and visual journalists, and editors and producers involved in producing core news content.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Using journalists as the basis for payment recognises the vital work they do investigating, analysing, compiling and reporting the stories that matter to Australians.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">A 20 per cent increase will apply for journalists working in regional and remote areas, journalists employed by small to medium news organisations, and journalists working in news organisations that serve diverse communities.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This recognises the challenges of employing staff in regional and remote Australia and the financial pressures experienced by small to medium publishers.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It also supports publishers serving communities that are underrepresented in Australia's media landscape.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Those communities deserve news services that understand their experiences and report on the issues that matter to them.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Payments made under the News Journalism Payment Scheme will serve a clear and valid public purpose: supporting ongoing investment in Australian news and journalism.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill will therefore impose obligations on payment recipients to maintain their journalists in respect of the payment received across the relevant period.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The scheme is not about providing payments without obligations.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It is about supporting journalists to remain in the jobs that are vital to the production of public interest journalism.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Additional support for small publishers and start-ups</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I take this opportunity to thank the many news organisations, broadcasters, academics and other stakeholders that participated in public consultation on the News Journalism Payment Scheme.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Their feedback has helped inform the final design of the scheme.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the clearest messages from consultation was that additional support is needed for very small publishers and start-ups seeking to establish core news services online.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That need is particularly acute in areas where there is currently insufficient news coverage—often described as news deserts.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill therefore provides for a special allocation of five per cent of any revenue raised by the News Bargaining Incentive for a separate grants program.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That program will focus on supporting small publishers and start-ups to build their businesses and produce news for local communities.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This support matters.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Smaller publishers often operate with limited resources and face a disadvantage when dealing with the world's largest digital platforms.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Yet they can also be the organisations closest to the communities they serve.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">They report on local issues that may never make national headlines and provide a voice for people who might otherwise go unheard.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Additional support for Australian Associated Press</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australian Associated Press plays a unique and vital role in Australia's media landscape. Through its wholesale news service, AAP provides its newswire service to more than 400 Australian news publishers, with more than 300 of those located in regional areas. For many news organisations, particularly those with limited resources, AAP's reporting helps supplement local coverage and ensure Australians continue to have access to trusted news.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That work delivers benefits well beyond any single publisher. AAP supports the production and distribution of quality journalism at scale, helping to strengthen the diversity, reach and resilience of the Australian news sector.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Under the bill, AAP will receive a dedicated allocation of five per cent of any revenue raised through the News Bargaining Incentive, acknowledging the essential role it plays in supporting public interest journalism and news organisations across Australia.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Conclusion</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">News and journalism are critical to the proper functioning of Australia's democratic system of government, the health and cohesion of our communities, and keeping Australians informed.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia must continue to have a free and diverse news media landscape.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But news is costly to make.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government's News Media Assistance Program is already providing much-needed funding to news organisations, including by supporting the ongoing employment of thousands of journalists across Australia.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We want journalists to be able to focus on providing Australians with high-quality journalism without having to worry about the stability of their jobs.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">After all, it is people who produce public-interest journalism. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We need more journalists reporting from our cities, from regional and remote Australia, and from communities that have too often been underrepresented.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill builds on the government's commitment to Australian jobs, quality journalism and a sustainable, diverse and independent media landscape.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I commend the bill to the House.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
                </p>
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      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>News Journalism Payments (Consequential Amendments) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>3</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">News Journalism Payments (Consequential Amendments) Bill 2026</span>
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          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>First Reading</title>
            <page.no>3</page.no>
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              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">First Reading</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill and explanatory memorandum presented by <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Wells</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a first time.</span>
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        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>3</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>3</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
                <name.id>264121</name.id>
                <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="264121" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms WELLS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:12</span>):  I move:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Introduction</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Bullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Bullet">This bill accompanies the News Journalism Payments Bill 2026, which will establish the News Journalism Payment Scheme to distribute any revenue raised by the News Bargaining Incentive to eligible Australian news organisations.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Bullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Bullet">The News Journalism Payment Scheme will support a sustainable, diverse and independent media sector, and forms part of the broader package of bills related to the News Bargaining Incentive. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Bullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Bullet">The News Journalism Payment Scheme requires consequential amendments to the Competition and Consumer Act 2010. These amendments are necessary to support the creation of the News Journalism Payment Scheme and its eligibility requirements. This bill provides those consequential amendments.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Key </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">p</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">rovisions of the </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">b</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">ill</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Bullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Bullet">The bill will enable the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) to share information with the Secretary of the Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development, Communications, Sport and the Arts, as the administrator of the scheme, regarding changes to the registration of news organisations.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Bullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Bullet">Under the News Journalism Payment Scheme, news organisations will be required to register on ACMA's register of eligible news businesses to participate in the scheme. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Bullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Bullet">The provision of timely information by ACMA regarding any changes to a news organisation's registration will support the efficient and effective administration of the News Journalism Payment Scheme.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I commend the bill.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
                </p>
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          </speech>
        </subdebate.2>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>News Media Bargaining (Administration) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>4</page.no>
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            <a href="r7525" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">News Media Bargaining (Administration) Bill 2026</span>
              </p>
            </a>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>First Reading</title>
            <page.no>4</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo>
          <subdebate.text>
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              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">First Reading</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill and explanatory memorandum to this bill, and to the News Media Bargaining Charge Bill 2026 and the Treasury Laws Amendment (News Media Bargaining) (Consequential) Bill 2026, presented by <span style="font-weight:bold;">D</span><span style="font-weight:bold;">r </span><span style="font-weight:bold;">Mulino</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a first time.</span>
              </p>
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        </subdebate.2>
        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>4</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo>
          <subdebate.text>
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              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>4</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Mulino, Daniel MP</name>
                <name.id>132880</name.id>
                <electorate>Fraser</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="132880" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr MULINO</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fraser</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Treasurer and Minister for Financial Services</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:15</span>):  I move:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The News Media Bargaining (Administration) Bill 2026 forms part of the government's commitment to support a strong, sustainable and diverse Australian news media sector.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">At its core, this bill is about a simple proposition: if large digital platforms benefit from Australian news, they should make a fair contribution to sustaining it.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australian journalism matters to our democracy, informed public debate and local communities that rely on trusted reporting.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But the economics of journalism have changed. Advertising revenue that once helped fund Australian newsrooms has shifted substantially to large global digital platforms. At the same time, Australians continue to rely on news businesses to create quality news content that requires journalists, editors, photographers and producers.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That imbalance is not new. It was why the parliament supported the News Media and Digital Platforms Mandatory Bargaining Code in 2021.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The code was an important reform. It helped secure commercial agreements, supported investment in public interest journalism and recognised the bargaining power imbalance between large platforms and the news organisations whose content helps inform, engage and retain users.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But the code has a limitation. A platform can seek to avoid bargaining obligations by withdrawing or reducing the availability of news content.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is not good enough.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australian journalism should not depend on whether a large digital platform chooses to carry news, and platforms should not avoid contributing by simply walking away from it.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is why the government is acting.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill establishes the administrative framework for the news bargaining incentive.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The purpose of the incentive is clear. We want platforms and news businesses to do commercial deals.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is the government's preference, the market based outcome this legislation is designed to encourage, and what will best support a sustainable, diverse and independent Australian news sector.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill applies objective criteria to identify the largest digital platforms with significant search or social media services and substantial Australian digital advertising revenue. It is targeted at those platforms with the greatest market power and the greatest capacity to contribute.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill establishes a charge and offset mechanism. In-scope digital platforms will incur a liability based on their digital advertising revenue attributable to the operation of a significant search or social media services in Australia.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But platforms can reduce or fully extinguish that liability through eligible expenditure under commercial agreements with Australian news businesses.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In other words, platforms have a clear choice. They can do fair commercial deals that support Australian journalism, or, if they choose not to, they will pay the charge.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is not about raising revenue for the government. Any revenue raised will be returned in full to the Australian news sector through the news journalism payment scheme.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The incentive is deliberately focused on encouraging deals. The offset is generous, recognises commercial agreements and provides enhanced incentives for agreements with small and medium news businesses.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That matters because media diversity is important for our democracy.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This reform is not only about major media organisations; it is also about independent publishers, regional outlets and smaller newsrooms that serve local communities and add to media diversity.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill encourages support to be spread across the sector, rather than concentrated among a small number of large organisations. Platforms will need eligible agreements with at least eight different news organisations to obtain the offset.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That requirement reinforces the central purpose of the scheme: more deals, with more news organisations, supporting more Australian journalism.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government has consulted extensively on the design of the News Bargaining Incentive. We have listened to feedback and made targeted refinements to better align the legislation with its policy objective.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Those refinements include narrowing the charge base to Australian digital advertising revenue from significant search and social media services, strengthening the incentives for commercial agreements, and providing greater support for small and medium publishers.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The result is a practical and targeted reform.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Like the Minister for Communications, I would like to acknowledge the contributions to the development of this policy from many stakeholders over a long period of time. It has added significantly to the quality of the outcome that we are announcing as a government today.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It strengthens the news media bargaining code, responds to changes in digital markets, backs Australian journalism, and ensures large digital platforms cannot avoid making a fair contribution to the news content from which they derive value.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Public interest journalism is not free to produce. It takes journalists on the ground, editors, producers, photographers, newsrooms and a sustainable commercial foundation.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australians should be able to access trusted information about their communities, economy and democracy, told through Australian eyes and with an Australian perspective.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is what this bill supports.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government wants large digital platforms to enter into and maintain fair commercial agreements with Australian news businesses.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Where they do, they can reduce their liability. Where they do not, they will pay a charge that goes back to supporting Australian journalism.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is fair. That is practical. And it is the right thing to do for the long-term sustainability and diversity of Australia's news media sector.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Full details of the measure are contained in the explanatory memorandum.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>News Media Bargaining Charge Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>5</page.no>
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            <a href="r7524" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">News Media Bargaining Charge Bill 2026</span>
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          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>First Reading</title>
            <page.no>5</page.no>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">First Reading</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill and explanatory memorandum presented by <span style="font-weight:bold;">Dr Mulino</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a first time.</span>
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        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>6</page.no>
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          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>6</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Mulino, Daniel MP</name>
                <name.id>132880</name.id>
                <electorate>Fraser</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="132880" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr MULINO</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fraser</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Treasurer and Minister for Financial Services</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:22</span>):  I move:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill accompanies the News Media Bargaining (Administration) Bill to impose the charge and establish the rate of charge that underpins the News Bargaining Incentive framework. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The charge is set at 2.5 per cent of Australian digital advertising revenue generated from significant search and social media services operated in Australia. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The charge works with the offset mechanism in the administration bill to create a clear incentive for commercial agreements to be made by digital platforms to support a strong and diverse Australian news ecosystem.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Full details of the measure are contained in the explanatory memorandum. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Treasury Laws Amendment (News Media Bargaining) (Consequential) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>6</page.no>
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            <a href="r7526" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Treasury Laws Amendment (News Media Bargaining) (Consequential) Bill 2026</span>
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          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>First Reading</title>
            <page.no>6</page.no>
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          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">First Reading</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill and explanatory memorandum presented by <span style="font-weight:bold;">D</span><span style="font-weight:bold;">r</span><span style="font-weight:bold;"> Mulino</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a first time.</span>
              </p>
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        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>6</page.no>
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          <subdebate.text>
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              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
              </p>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>6</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Mulino, Daniel MP</name>
                <name.id>132880</name.id>
                <electorate>Fraser</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="132880" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr MULINO</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fraser</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Treasurer and Minister for Financial Services</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:24</span>):  I move:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill accompanies the News Media Bargaining (Administration) Bill to make a range of consequential amendments necessary to support the operation of the News Bargaining Incentive. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These amendments provide the supporting aspects of the framework required for administration, collection and enforcement—ensuring that there is appropriate interaction with existing tax laws. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">They are an important component needed to effectively deliver the policy objective to support the sustainability and diversity of Australia's news media sector.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Full details of the measure are contained in the explanatory memorandum. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Biosecurity Amendment (Improving Operational Efficiency) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>6</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <a href="r7518" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Biosecurity Amendment (Improving Operational Efficiency) Bill 2026</span>
              </p>
            </a>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Report from Federation Chamber</title>
            <page.no>6</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo>
          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Report from Federation Chamber</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill returned from Federation Chamber without amendment; certified copy of the bill presented.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill agreed to.</span>
              </p>
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          </subdebate.text>
        </subdebate.2>
        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Third Reading</title>
            <page.no>6</page.no>
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          <subdebate.text>
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              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Third Reading</span>
              </p>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>6</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Collins, Julie Maree MP</name>
                <name.id>HWM</name.id>
                <electorate>Franklin</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="HWM" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms COLLINS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Franklin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:26</span>):  by leave—I move:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a third time.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a third time.</span>
                </p>
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        </subdebate.2>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Wine and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>6</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <a href="r7519" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Wine and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2026</span>
              </p>
            </a>
          </body>
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        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Report from Federation Chamber</title>
            <page.no>6</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo>
          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Report from Federation Chamber</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill returned from Federation Chamber without amendment; certified copy of the bill presented.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill agreed to.</span>
              </p>
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        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Third Reading</title>
            <page.no>6</page.no>
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          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Third Reading</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>6</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Collins, Julie Maree MP</name>
                <name.id>HWM</name.id>
                <electorate>Franklin</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="HWM" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms COLLINS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Franklin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:27</span>):  by leave—I move:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a third time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a third time.</span>
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      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Interactive Gambling Amendment (Gambling Reform) Bill 2026, National Self-exclusion Register (Cost Recovery Levy) Amendment Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>7</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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            <p>
              <a href="r7520" type="Bill">
                <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Interactive Gambling Amendment (Gambling Reform) Bill 2026</span>
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            </p>
            <a href="r7521" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">National Self-exclusion Register (Cost Recovery Levy) Amendment Bill 2026</span>
              </p>
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        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>7</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Cognate debate.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">"whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(1) notes that:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the Standing Committee on Social Policy and Legal Affairs, in its unanimous report <span style="font-style:italic;">You Win Some, You Lose More,</span> recommended a comprehensive phase-out of online gambling advertising, the establishment of a national gambling regulator and a ban on inducements and inducement advertising; and</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(b) the Government has failed to deliver on these recommendations, and in doing so has chosen to favour the interests of gambling companies over the wellbeing of the Australian community; and</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(2) calls on the Government to implement a comprehensive phase-out of online gambling advertising, ban inducements to gamble, and establish a national regulator".</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "whilst" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">"declining to give the bill a second reading, the House also notes that:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(1) every day, vulnerable Australians are bombarded with gambling ads designed to keep them betting, even when they are trying to stop;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(2) Australians should have the right to enjoy sport, and to go about their lives, free from predatory gambling advertising; and</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(3) passing this bill would be a massive favour to the rich gambling corporations that are ripping off Australians, robbing people of their livelihoods and taking money from struggling families".</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>7</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burns, Josh MP</name>
                <name.id>278522</name.id>
                <electorate>Macnamara</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="278522" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURNS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Macnamara</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:29</span>):  The former member for Dunkley, Peta Murphy, was a great friend of mine. In fact, she liked to tease me from time to time. When I was giving speeches in this place, if I didn't focus on the material, she used to call it 'story time with Josh', and only Peta could distil it down to that in such a great way. But I will try not to have 'story time with Josh', Peta. I will try and do your incredible report justice.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to start my speech by paying tribute to Peta Murphy, who, through the work of a committee report, has left an incredible legacy. All of us in this place feel a sense of responsibility and a sense of duty to honour Peta, and I know the minister, who is next to me, feels that deeply. She also was a great friend of Peta's. We miss Peta very much and we will continue on with the work she has left us—and that can't be said of every member of parliament—via a committee report. This parliament feels so strongly about the work that was done in that committee report, and that shows the intellectual bravery that Peta Murphy brought when she came into this place to this and her skill as a parliamentarian. We miss her very much.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The toxic relationship between gambling and sport is one that, frankly, every single member of this place understands we need to do something about it. The way in which it has really ingrained itself in the culture of sport in this country has meant that not only is there a cultural aspect of it but also a reliance on it, There is a toxic reliance on gambling—on gambling advertising, on this cycle of companies looking to target the most vulnerable people who are susceptible to their advertising, and sporting codes and organisations who are reliant on the money that gambling produces. Football clubs, with their pokie licences; commercial television; local sporting clubs; stadiums—it is everywhere.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There will be repercussions from this bill. This is not a bill where there aren't going to be any consequences in making the changes that we are putting forward in this bill. This will have an impact and it is real, but we have to do it. We have to break this nexus and this connection between gambling advertising and sport. When I think about my eight-year-old daughter, who loves the Carlton Football Club—that is one of the proudest things that I have been able to impart on her. We watch games together; I love watching the footy with her. And then you see the ads pop up—the multies, the betting, the celebrity endorsements—and you think, 'What is going to be left inside this child's mind about what she is actually watching?' It should be all about the game, not about the odds. We need to do something about that and that is what this bill does.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Unfortunately, it is not easy. The number of reforms that we have in this bill—I'm going to run through them in a moment—is significant. And, like every piece of legislation where we sit down with people across the parliament and we work out how we're going to pass it through the Senate, I know there has been a huge amount of work done by the minister and members in this place. Hopefully, it will be a great moment where we can make significant changes to improve the situation where gambling isn't investing in our sport and our TV channels.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I also want to mention a bit of history. The closest example of what we're trying to do here is when our country got rid of tobacco advertising. Actually, if you look at the timeline of how long it took for us, as a country, to take out tobacco advertising, it was significant. The first health warnings in Australia about tobacco were introduced in 1973. There was a radio advertising ban on tobacco three years later, in 1976. Australia subsequently banned tobacco advertising in newspapers and magazines in 1990—14 years later. The Tobacco Advertising Prohibition Act 1992 imposed much broader national restrictions on the broadcasting and publication of tobacco advertising from 1993.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It took Australia 20 years to take away tobacco advertising. Think about the media markets and the state of journalism in Australia in the nineties versus what it is now. If you look at the commercial advertising in the newspaper classifieds—around $4 billion a year was going into classified advertising back then; it's now about $200 million. All of that directly funds journalism in this country. All of that directly funds free and independent media. All of that funds commercial television and the sort of other advertising that funds Australian programs, and Australian content and kids programs, Australian industry and Australian jobs. It took 20 years to take away tobacco advertising, at a time when media advertising revenue was going up.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Right now, we are seeing the greatest transition away from independent news, from journalism, from the advertising that funds the important pillars of our democracy, not to mention our local sporting clubs and our sporting codes. And we're entering into a time when money is being moved into large tech companies and being invested in artificial intelligence. It's moving away from holding people and moving away from being invested back into the institutions that help create all of the different parts of our democracy and is moving towards other parts that make our democracy and our truth and our politics so much more difficult.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is not simple. This is actually really difficult. I know that people out there ask: 'Well, why not just do a full ban? Why not just do it?' They are legitimate questions, and Peta Murphy laid the groundwork and the pathway against which we all must hold ourselves. But this also is real, and the consequences of this will be real: there will be millions of dollars less for journalism, for institutions, for sport—to invest in women's sport, in the AFLW. All of these things are going to need time to adjust. But we need to make sure that we are true to the point of what this bill is all about, and that is breaking the nexus and the connection between gambling and sport. Even though there will be consequences, we need to push on with these reforms.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill will make a significant number of changes to the number of ads on TV, making sure that gambling ads won't be on TV during sport, especially during specific hours. There'll be frequency caps outside of those hours. I also want to mention the fact that, whenever you're watching sport and you see these celebrity endorsements parading as being part of the television coverage, it's actually just an endorsement by Sportsbet or Ladbrokes or one of these other companies. All of that will be banned. Gambling advertising is not going to be normalised—this culture of 'what's happening over at the odds?' All that part of our radio and television coverage of sport is going to be gone.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When kids walk into a stadium, they're not going to see advertising all around the stadium. They're not going to see it on jerseys. They're not going to hear it on the radio while they're going to and from school. The way this bill outlines the online ban basically means that, as a parent, I am going to be able to opt out or switch off all gambling advertising on the streaming platforms in my home. That is a power that we want to give to each and every parent around Australia: if you don't want your kids to see gambling advertising, you can do something pretty simple and click 'opt out'.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">If platforms choose not to have that function, the alternative is no gambling advertising on their platforms; they have to comply with this, or the answer is no gambling advertising. Here is the choice that this bill gives parents: either, if online platforms, social media and tech companies choose to not comply with the law and not provide these three steps of verification and options for parents, they will have no gambling advertising or, if they want to have gambling advertising on their platforms, they have to give parents and other people the choice and the ability to turn it off. That is a power that does not exist right now.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When you think about all of that and you think about my eight-year-old daughter, when we go to the footy and the MCG, there will be no gambling around the MCG anymore. There will be no gambling on the stadium. There will be no gambling advertising on the uniforms. When we travel to and from school, there will be no gambling advertising. When we're watching the footy at home, when we're watching it on 7plus, there will be no gambling advertising. We will have created a gambling advertising free home. That sounds pretty good to me, and that's exactly what this bill will be able to do.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are also much broader reforms that are contained in this bill that I don't want to run out of time on, because they are significant and they have required a lot of work, and I'm really proud that we are taking them. We are going to ensure that illegal offshore gambling providers are reducing their gambling harm and ensure that anyone participating in gambling in Australia is doing so within the safety of Australian consumer protections. We're strengthening BetStop, which has helped thousands of Australians pull themselves out of problem gambling. We are going to address harmful and emerging online gambling products, including banning online keno and foreign match lotteries.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">If you want to just pause on online keno, these are online pocket pokies where people can just click pokie and pokie time and time again. We see the ways in which people lose themselves in casinos until all hours of the morning. Well, just imagine lying in bed, pressing the pokie over and over again. People are losing thousands of dollars. All of that will be banned under this bill, and I think that is a fantastic reform. I've never spent a cent at a pokie. I've never spent a cent with any of these companies. I've never spent a cent on Sportsbet or Ladbrokes or any of them. That's a personal choice I make. But I think this is a wonderful thing, where we are not making it easy for these companies to just take money off people lying in bed with an algorithm and a formula that is not designed for people to win. It is designed for companies to make money.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The impact on foreign match lotteries also will mean that the local small businesses that are selling lottery tickets aren't going to have these foreign lotteries able to undercut them and have situations where people can buy tickets in offshore lotteries. People want to be a part of the lotto. My grandmother used to love doing that. I've never really seen the appeal, but at least we will ensure that Australians are buying from local newsagencies, and I think that's a good thing. There are many other things that this bill does. It closes regulatory gaps that allow some operators to offer lottery-style products under the guise of trade promotions and reward clubs. There are a number of other things that we're going to ensure that this bill does.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But I want to make this point: when negotiating anything in this parliament, we don't have the numbers, as the Labor Party, to pass everything through the Senate. That requires us to sit down with people and negotiate. It requires us to negotiate with either the Liberal Party or the Greens. There have been bills where we've gone through one, and there have been bills where we've gone through the other. Ultimately, that's about respecting our democracy. Obviously, I want to see a whole range of things that this bill makes an incredible contribution to. One of the things that we passed in our national conference was around inducements and the way in which these companies are offering people extra incentives to continue gambling and targeting the most susceptible people on that. I think that in the negotiations that is obviously something that the Labor Party in our conference said that we want to see included in the bill, and I know that there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes. I am working as closely as I can with my colleagues, and I know everyone is working to make sure we get something through this House and we get these reforms in.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is because they will make a difference. They will make a profound difference. They'll give parents the power to turn off gambling advertising. They'll mean that, when young kids are walking into the colosseum of Australian football, they're not looking around seeing BetStop and Ladbrokes; they're walking around and seeing the great Australian athletes, men and women competing on the best sporting field in the country and possibly the world. It took 20 years from the moment in which tobacco advertising and health warnings were issued in Australia for a bill to come in. Well, we are doing this. This has never been done before, and this is a huge set of reforms that will have a big impact on breaking that nexus between gambling and sport. I thank every member who has contributed to this, the minister and so many others. Most of all, I thank Peta Murphy, who laid down the path, and now it's our job to walk down it.</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>9</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Birrell, Sam MP</name>
                <name.id>288713</name.id>
                <electorate>Nicholls</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.text>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="288713" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BIRRELL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Nicholls</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:44</span>):  I too rise to speak on the Interactive Gambling Amendment (Gambling Reform) Bill 2026. I was one of a group of members of this parliament who signed an open letter to the Prime Minister, along with former prime minister Howard and retired state premiers. In that letter, the signatories and I were asking him, the Prime Minister, to go further on gambling reform than the package he had originally announced. I did not sign that letter lightly. It came through frustration that this issue had been left to fester and that what was being proposed was manifestly inadequate.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Members from across this chamber, the government, opposition, crossbench—in listening to their speeches, I feel that they've reached the same conclusion independently about the same set of problems. That should tell the government something. I hope it's one of those times when the leaders of the government listen to their backbench, listen to the concerns and negotiate in good faith to get something that's actually meaningful. I didn't appreciate the statement from the Prime Minister at the end of question time: 'Take it or leave it. If you don't like it, we can go on with a status quo.' That's not how you deal with these issues.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I set a test myself on these issues, and I want to talk about it a bit to share my decision-making. I judge any bill on whether it protects children and whether it stops predatory conduct aimed at people who are already in trouble. I also look at what we decide as a parliament is legal and what people tell us has safe levels of use. I'm going to talk about tobacco, alcohol and gambling. All the evidence is that there is no safe use of tobacco. We continue to make it legal. We have a regulatory regime that has pushed a lot of the use into illegal products, and that is creating its own set of problems. I think we've got a lot of issues—and I see them all the time in my home state of Victoria—with the fact that our efforts to regulate that have gone so far that it's pushed use into illegal forms. But, having said that, there is no safe use of tobacco. It is legal, but there's no safe use. So there should be no advertising. I'm comfortable with that.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We discussed alcohol yesterday with the minister, the wine industry, the brewing industry and the spirits industry. Many Australians enjoy alcohol responsibly. Medical experts tell us there is a safe level of use for that product, so we allow some advertising of that product. We try to stop it being targeted at children because there is no safe use for children.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="282981" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Bell:</span>
                    </a>  Or pregnant mothers.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="288713" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr BIRRELL:</span>
                    </a>  Or pregnant mothers. Thank you, member for Moncrieff. When it comes to gambling, there is a safe level of use. Many people enjoy the occasional bet. Many people enjoy more than the occasional bet with money that they can afford to lose, knowing when to stop and understanding the loss probability. It's not something I do very often, just around the spring carnival and at country races. Normally, my inadequacy in punting warns me off for another year, but it is fun. I don't think this bill as introduced passes the test that we want for having some advertising but making sure we protect vulnerable people and children.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're three years on from the Peta Murphy report. In June 2023, a committee of this parliament handed down 31 recommendations, and it was bipartisan. Members from both sides put their names to those recommendations. As many people have said, this parliament should be incredibly proud of Peta Murphy for what she did in this place and everyone misses her. I want to appreciate the work of the deputy chair of that committee—the member for Cowper, Pat Conaghan—who also contributed greatly. I am very critical of the government for the delay in acting on elements of that report. I think more than three years passing between that report and a bill is not acceptable—three years in which ads kept running, losses kept climbing and children kept being exposed to gambling advertising. When the government did finally respond to the Murphy report, it did so on budget day, with the Press Gallery locked away in a budget lock-up. I think that it should have had more fanfare and should have had more transparency and should have been worked through more than that.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The issue, as many members of this place have said, is that we love enjoying sport with our children, and it's something that I do. It's something that many people do. It's a way of bonding. It's a way of talking about athleticism, teamwork and all sorts of things. With me, it's more soccer than anything else, particularly the Premier League. When you're watching a game, whether it be AFL, NRL, Premier League or A-League, you don't want to have that experience inundated with gambling ads and discussion of odds. I think that most people have reached the conclusion that there's just been an overload of gambling ads during sports broadcasts.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">During the last parliament, when I was sitting on the backbench here, Peter Dutton, the former opposition leader, stood at this dispatch box and gave a budget reply speech that proposed a reform of an ad ban an hour before, during and an hour after live sports broadcast. Again, I think that was the then leader of the opposition expressing a frustration that the government was so recalcitrant to do something and that we needed to put something on the table to say that we need to do something about this and that we need to get these gambling ads out of our live sport. I think that was a worthwhile reform. I don't think it's the only thing that should have been done, but it's a worthwhile thing.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to make a couple more points. Firstly, on streaming services, there have been discussions of opt in and opt out, and that will continue to be a negotiation. I think opt in is a good system if it can be managed, but, if this parliament negotiates and decides for an opt-out situation for streaming, my strong view is that that opt out should be very, very clear and very, very easy to do. At the moment, it is not. We found that during the World Cup with the SBS. If you wanted to opt out, it wasn't clear and it wasn't easy. You had to go to settings and you had to do a number of things, and, consequently, most people didn't do it. Opt in is ideal. If it's opt out, it needs to be very, very clear, and streaming services need to make that opt-out option really, really clear.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I do I just want to talk a bit about carve-outs for racing and that distinction. There is a distinction between racing and the other sports that I've mentioned—rugby league, rugby union, soccer and Australian rules football. Horseracing and gambling are intertwined in a way that other sports aren't, and that has been the case for almost all of Australia's history, and I think we need to understand that. I've got a really strong, vibrant thoroughbred-racing industry. I've also got pacing and greyhounds as well, but the thoroughbred-racing industry in my electorate, as many country MPs have—I know we talk about the Melbourne Cup and the spring racing carnival, and we talk about the carnivals in other metropolitan cities, but it really is and can be the lifeblood of many people in regional communities. I've got the Seymour Racing Club, the Echuca Racing Club and the Kilmore Racing Club in my electorate, to name a few.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We do need to make sure that what we do does not affect, firstly, free-to-air broadcasting of sport, because a lot of people can't afford the cable services, the pay TV, so they want to be able to watch sport on TV, and we can't have the unintended consequences of significantly damaging racing, particularly in regional areas. That's the balance that everyone's looking for here. In an ideal world you'd go a lot further, but you recognise that things that you do, regulations that go too far, might adversely affect great industries like racing and people's ability to access sport via live free-to-air services.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'll leave my comments there. I'm disappointed it's taken this long to get a bill on the table. I don't think the main bill is adequate. I believe the negotiations are ongoing, and I look forward to seeing what comes back. This parliament has a duty to do something about this, and the test it sets is: does what we do protect children and the most vulnerable people from obsessive gambling advertising and gambling advertising during sporting contests?</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Bell, Angie MP</name>
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                  <electorate>Moncrieff</electorate>
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                  <electorate>Nicholls</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">Rebello, Leon MP</name>
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                <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr REBELLO</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McPherson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:55</span>):  I rise to speak on the gambling legislation before the House today. This is an area where I think we need to start from a fairly simple proposition: adults should be free to make choices for themselves, but with that freedom comes personal responsibility. But government also has a responsibility to protect vulnerable Australians, particularly children, where products or commercial practices can cause general harm. Those principles are not contradictory; in fact, good public policy requires us to hold them together.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For the overwhelming majority of Australians, buying a lottery ticket, having a punt on the races or putting a small bet on a sporting event is entertainment. Government should not treat every Australian who enjoys those activities as though they're incapable of making their own decisions. But, equally, we should never minimise gambling harm. Australians lose more per person to gambling than people in any other country, with total losses now exceeding $36 billion a year. Behind that extraordinary figure are people who have suffered financial distress, damaged relationships and profound impacts on their mental health, and families who have carried those consequences alongside them. There is a role for government here, but the test of reform cannot simply be where the government has done something; the test is whether it has done the right thing, and whether the legislation is targeted, evidence based and capable of reducing harm without creating new and unnecessary consequences. Unfortunately, these bills do not yet meet that test.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Murphy inquiry reported in June 2023 after undertaking extensive work, and delivered 31 recommendations. Australians have now waited more than three years for the government to bring forward this legislative response. After that amount of time, we were entitled to expect legislation that was coherent, carefully designed and able to withstand scrutiny. Instead, there remain serious gaps. The coalition wants meaningful and workable gambling reform. We want the legislation to succeed. But, after three years of delay, parliament has an obligation to strengthen the bills where their protections fall short. We're engaging constructively with the government because gambling reform is too important to be reduced to political theatre. There are negotiations occurring about how this legislation can be strengthened, and I hope that the government and the minister listen carefully to the concerns that have been raised.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">One of those concerns is gambling advertising. There's been some rewriting of history in this debate. Australians should remember that restrictions on gambling advertising during live sport did not suddenly appear with these bills. The former coalition government introduced the live sport restrictions that came into effect in 2018. Under the existing regime, gambling advertising is prohibited during live sport between 5 am and 8.30 pm. including during breaks in play and for five minutes either side of the event. That was an important reform because sport should be something families can enjoy together without children being conditioned to believe that every kick, every try and every result needs to have a price attached to it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The scale of gambling advertising in this country demonstrates why this matters. The Australian Communications and Media Authority found that, in a single 12-month period, more than one million gambling advertisements were broadcast across free-to-air television and radio. Online, Australians are being exposed to more than half a million gambling advertisements. That is not advertising at the margins; it's saturation. When gambling messages are appearing at that scale, they become part of the background noise of everyday life. They normalise gambling. They embed it into the experience of watching sport. For people already struggling with gambling harm, that constant exposure can be deeply damaging.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are measures in this bill that move in the right direction, but there are also aspects that require substantial improvement. The bill proposes a general cap of three wagering advertisements per hour on television between 6 am and 8.30 pm. I struggle with the proposition that we can say that we're fundamentally changing children's exposure to gambling while still designing a legislative framework capable of delivering three gambling advertisements every hour through much of the day.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are also serious questions about streamed live sport. The existing online rules contain strong protections during play, during breaks and immediately before and after an event. We should be strengthening those protections, not creating new opportunities for gambling advertising to find its way back into the family viewing experience. You cannot credibly say that you're breaking the connection between gambling and sport while continuing to permit gambling advertisements during live sporting events. That is the contradiction at the heart of this aspect of the bill.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Sport is one of the great institutions of Australian life. It brings families together. It builds communities. It teaches young people about teamwork, discipline, resilience and competition. I want the next generation of Australians to grow up loving sport because of the contest, because of their team and because of the excitement of the game, not because they've been taught from childhood to associate every result with a bet. We can't go back and undo the gambling harm that's already occurred in Australian families, but this parliament does have control over what happens next.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And then there are inducements. This is an area where the evidence has been particularly confronting. The Murphy inquiry did not equivocate. Recommendation 16 called for online gambling inducements and inducement advertising to be prohibited without delay. The committee was particularly concerned by the role of VIP programs and inducements in encouraging people to continue gambling and losing. Yet, three years later, this bill still does not adequately deal with that problem. The evidence heard by the Senate committee recently about the treatment of vulnerable gamblers and the use of VIP account management, bonus bets and other inducements should concern every member of this parliament.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Government has an obligation to act where commercial practices are deliberately exploiting vulnerability. That's exactly where targeted regulation belongs. At the same time, we need to remember that legitimate gambling related industries employ Australians, sustain businesses and make significant contributions to communities. Racing in particular supports trainers, breeders, jockeys, stable workers, veterinarians, hospitality venues, transport businesses and communities right across regional Australia. We should be capable of protecting vulnerable people without pretending that every person who enjoys a bet needs government to save them from themselves. That is the balance that the coalition is seeking.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That brings me to a part of this bill that I'd like to spend some time addressing because its consequences are very real for the people in my electorate of McPherson. Schedule 4 proposes to prohibit foreign matched lotteries. Now, I've spoken to many across this chamber about this. That might sound like a fairly technical change buried within a much larger gambling reform bill. It's not. For one Australian owned business based in my electorate, it is an extinction notice.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Lottery Office operates from Robina in my electorate on the Gold Coast. Its parent company, Global Players Network, is Australian owned and operates under a Northern Territory gaming licence. The government's own review identifies the Lottery Office as one of the licensed providers of foreign matched lotteries operating in Australia. This business supports around 50 jobs in my electorate, as well as expenditure with many other local businesses and suppliers of whom I have had the opportunity to speak. These are not theoretical jobs. They're not figures in a departmental briefing note. They're real people who go to work each morning. They pay their taxes, they have mortgages and rent, they raise families, they buy their groceries locally, and they contribute to the Gold Coast community in spades. They fund our sporting clubs and our community organisations, and they fill the funding gaps left by government. And this parliament is now being asked to vote for legislation that could potentially wipe them out.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This isn't gambling reform; it's a Labor protection job. Roger Cook, the Premier of Western Australia, has asked Canberra to effectively kill off a legal Gold Coast competitor to shield Western Australia's state owned lottery. The Prime Minister and the minister, through this legislation, will simply be rolling over to support their Labor mates.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Before doing that, members on that side of the chamber should understand exactly what this product is. A foreign matched lottery is materially different from a synthetic lottery, where there is no underlying ticket purchased in the relevant lottery and the operator itself pays an amount based on the result. That distinction matters. It matters even more when we look at the evidence the government itself commissioned.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The department of infrastructure undertook a specific review into online keno and foreign matched lotteries. That review was published earlier this year, and what did it find? It said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">The harms associated with … foreign-matched lotteries are not well understood.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Due to the lack of available data, the review could not identify a different harm profile or customer spending profile for foreign-matched lotteries compared with Australian-exclusive lotteries.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It recorded:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">All foreign-matched lottery providers advised that winnings had been paid to customers ...</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Northern Territory regulator advised that complaints it had seen related to identity verification, and that consumers received their winnings once those verification issues were resolved. Most importantly, the department did not respond to that evidence by recommending that these businesses be banned. The department said that further research was needed to properly understand the risk profile before restrictions were imposed.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The review went so far as to say that 'more evidence' was needed to determine whether further regulation of foreign matched lotteries would actually be 'commensurate with the harms'. That is the government's own department. Only months later, the government's answer is not more research. It's not stronger consumer protections. It's not a nationally consistent regulatory framework. It's not extending appropriate provisions of BetStop or the credit card restriction. It is prohibition.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">How did we get from 'we need more evidence before imposing further restrictions' to 'we're going to ban the entire product'? I do not understand it. That's the question the government has not adequately answered, nor was the prohibition on foreign matched lotteries—one of the 31 recommendations of the Murphy report. That inquiry called for major reforms across advertising inducements, consumer protection regulation and research, but it did not make the case that this government is now making for the destruction of this particular business model.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I ask the minister and I ask those opposite: Where is the evidence? What changed between the department's review and the drafting of this legislation? What new harm was identified? What problem emerged that could only be solved by prohibition rather than regulation? And, I ask to the minister sitting at the table, why should around fifty jobs on the Gold Coast, in my electorate, be put on the line before those questions have been answered?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm a great believer in personal responsibility. It's why I joined the Liberal Party, but I'm equally a great believer in government taking responsibility for its own decisions. It's very easy, in Canberra, to amend a definition in an act. It takes a few lines on a page. But, when those lines remove the legal basis upon which an Australian business operates, the consequences are not a few lines on a page. They're livelihoods, they're employees sitting around a kitchen table wondering whether their job will exist next year, they're suppliers wondering whether a customer will disappear, and they're people who have built careers in a business that is lawful, licensed and regulated who are being told that Canberra has simply decided that their industry should no longer exist. I cannot support that approach. I say to the minister and I say to the government, deep down, I'm sure you can't either.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There is also an important competition question here. Whatever the government's intention, the practical consequence of this prohibition is to eliminate a regulated competitor from the Australian lottery market and leave the largest incumbent lottery operators facing less competition. That should concern everyone in this parliament who believes in competitive markets.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are stakeholders arguing strongly on the other side. Lobbyists claiming to represent traditional lottery retailers and newsagents have told the parliament that foreign matched products divert revenue and threaten their businesses. Even if those claims are true, government does not resolve competition between lawful businesses simply by banning one of them. If there's a consumer protection gap, close the gap. If regulation needs to be strengthened, strengthen it. If credit card use presents an unacceptable risk, address it. If consumers need stronger self-exclusion options, build them. Apply the appropriate safeguards consistently, and require every operator to meet them. That is regulation. Simply extinguishing a licensed Australian operator, when the evidence for doing so has not been established, is something very different.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Gold Coast has been built by people willing to take a risk, build a business, employ others and back their own ingenuity. My electorate is full of those people. It's part of what makes our city so successful. Government should be very careful before it tells one of those businesses: 'You played by the rules, you obtained the licence, you employed Australians and you complied with the regulatory framework, but we've now decided to abolish the framework beneath you anyway.' That destroys confidence well beyond this particular industry. The government should remove the proposed prohibition on foreign matched lotteries from this legislation and, instead, undertake the evidence based work its own department recommended. Gold Coast workers, the hardworking people in my electorate, should not become the collateral damage in a rushed regulatory decision.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the short time I have left, I'll say that we can preserve the great Australian tradition of enjoying sport without surrounding the next generation with gambling advertising, and we can regulate an industry without sacrificing competition, small business and Australian jobs in the process. That is the balance this parliament should seek and it is the standard against which this legislation should be judged.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Chesters, Lisa MP</name>
                <name.id>249710</name.id>
                <electorate>Bendigo</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                    <a href="249710" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CHESTERS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bendigo</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:11</span>):  We stand here today with a comprehensive set of reforms before us. I want to take a moment to acknowledge the work that's gone into the legislation that's before us. I've been in the parliament for 13 years now. I've had lots of opportunities to be the chair and deputy chair of House committees, prepared lots of reports with lots of recommendations. I want to address this issue up front. When you present a report to the parliament from a House committee, there are recommendations; they are a couple of sentences. But to turn sentences into legislation does take time in this place and I want to acknowledge that. Quite a lot of the feedback that I've got in my electorate has been: why is it taking so long? To turn a couple of sentences in a recommendation into legislation does take time regardless of the report. In the previous government, we did lots of reports on education reform and, out of respect, the then government looked at them. This government responded to some of those reports and they were tabled in this parliament. This isn't lost between governments; it's picked up by other ministers. But I want to put up front that it does take a lot to turn a report and recommendations into legislation and that consultation has happened in a genuine way.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The reforms that we have in front of us address the concerns our community has, that there's been a disconnect, that harm is now being done to children and others through online gambling, that there's been a change in the way in which gambling interacts with everyday life and, in particular, sport. The changes that are before us today will return us to the situation where families and children can engage in sport, grow up watching the game that they love without thinking about gambling and without it being imposed on them at the same time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The changes before us minimise the exposure to harm of wagering advertising, break the link between sport and wagering, and reduce the saturation and targeting of wagering advertising. What has shifted in the 20 or 30 years is the change in technology, and these laws are trying to keep up with that change. We can walk around with a phone in our pocket which is constantly pushing advertising and gambling to us. Streaming and online services have changed the nature of advertising.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to acknowledge all the people in my electorate who've written to me and raised this concern, from local branch members to local welfare groups to individuals who share their own story—their story of gambling, their story of their son being addicted to gambling or their story of growing up in a household of gambling. I'm the daughter of a gambler. My experience in childhood was very different to others and to what they're experiencing today. I remember being very young, and on Saturdays my afternoons were spent at the track—the racetrack—not like other kids. I remember learning mathematics through using the form guide. I remember that's how I did my times tables. After my dad and I had done the delivery runs for our second-hand business, and we'd gone to all the things that we did on a Saturday morning, our daddy-daughter time was at the track. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I think back now to that experience. I was the odd one out in the playground on a Monday when we reflected on what we did on the weekend. Every other kid didn't go to the track with their dad. Every other kid didn't learn their times tables by writing down the late mail. Every other kid wasn't told that the betting ring wasn't safe for a young girl because daddy had to do the conversations with the bookmakers, but they could just roam around the track chatting to people. I used to make up stories that my dad was a trainer so I wouldn't get so embarrassed. He wasn't. He was a gambler. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What changed was that our society could catch that kid, those girls, because there was only one in the playground that could understand the form guide and the betting odds. To this day, I can still talk about a quaddie or a quinella. I can still sit down, read the form guide and give you the best quinella picks you've got. My partner laughs about it. He didn't grow up in a house like that. I still have a cathartic feeling when I hear the racing channel—which is bizarre and odd and shouldn't be the case—because I heard it so much as a young child. My point is, whereas I was the only one in the playground, what we now have, because of the changing nature between sport and wagering, is more children talking about sporting odds and more children seeing it normalised. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There was a period when you'd watch a rugby league match and heroes of rugby league in the eighties and nineties were doing a live cross and talking to people, saying, 'If you go to your betting app right now'—whichever one they were promoting—'you can put money on, you can get the odds about the first kick and who's going to get the first goal'— </span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Dr Garland</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Sorry to interrupt, Member for Bendigo. Member for Moncrieff, no phones are allowed in the chamber. </span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms CHESTERS:</span>
                    </a>  and I can remember watching that, going: That's shifted. That's changed. That shouldn't be happening. This is what this bill seeks to address. It's minimising the exposure of children to harm. It's being able to watch that game without that interruption. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge some of the change that's already happened. As the member for Macnamara said, the AFL moved quickly and has taken the gambling around the stadium off. It was always a shock to see that, and a recall memory for me to see that when we went there, because it didn't happen when we were younger. Banning it from shirts is a big step forward. It's breaking that normalisation of gambling for children so that families can enjoy watching football, watching sport, without that interruption. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">With the bill that's before us, what we're trying to do is to ban ads on TV during live sport between 6 am and 8.30 pm and to put a cap on ads outside these hours of three per hour between 6 pm and 8 pm. The bill also seeks to ban gambling promotion by celebrities, athletes and influencers. Those heroes that I just spoke about are being used to target kids and youngsters, especially young men, but this bill aims to stop that. We're banning advertising on stadiums and jerseys, which again seeks to normalise advertising. We're banning radio ads at drop-off and pick-up times. We're banning online advertising, except when users use the opt-out function that allows them to opt out of advertising and apply family-friendly settings. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I think back to the World Cup and how important it would be to make sure that families know that they can do that. The broader reforms in this bill haven't received the attention that they should. The banning of online keno—I talked about phones in this particular reform, which I so desperately want to see passed. Phones just normalised it for so many young people. They could be shopping or at work, and then, all of a sudden, it pops up in their feed, and they give it a go. That shouldn't happen. Our phones should be free of the availability to gamble.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're expanding and changing BetStop to make sure that it can help more people and to stop it being misused. We're changing the way foreign matched lotteries work and function. We are tackling the illegal offshore gambling providers and reducing the impact of gambling harm to ensure that people participating in gambling in Australia do so with the safety of Australian consumer protections. I was shocked and horrified to hear through another committee, where we were looking at a treaty, about the influence and the way in which overseas gambling is having an impact on Australia, and it is good to see some of the recommendations of the treaties committee report being picked up and addressed with this legislation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We are cracking down on fake lotteries operating under the pretence of trade promotion. I'm not saying that everybody engages with them, but the insidious way that they use Facebook, they use marketing apps, they use shopping apps—before you know it, you're hooked and part of a gambling app. These are just some of the many legislation reforms that are here, and they are an incredibly important step to go forward. We do not want a case where gambling continues to be normalised for children.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is a huge step forward, and I want to really say that to the people in my community. This is about those young men and women at the Lake View Hotel or at the All Seasons after work, making sure that, if they want to have a bet, it's done safely and they're not being chased by gambling throughout their work day. This is about making sure that families can watch their football or their sporting without being bombarded by ads. This is about ensuring that we're supporting those children, that not more kids are talking about gambling ads, that more kids are not talking about betting or learning about our capitals based upon where racetracks may be, and that they're not learning their times tables or how to do mathematics by being able to understand the form guide.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We can catch those one or two kids that might become problem gamblers if it is that simple, if it is that one or two. But, when it becomes a classroom, it becomes so much harder for us as a community to catch. This is about making sure that the next generation isn't being chased by gambling on their phone. Gambling breaks families. It's insidious.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Gambling addiction is one of the hardest things for people to break. I can remember the words of my father over and over again: 'Just one more bet. This one will get us out. Just one more bet.' I can remember the way in which my mum would try and hide money, the way in which we as girls would beg him not to go, and the nights that we lost travelling to cities to go to racetracks or to different gambling opportunities. I've never put money in a poker machine. I had a Sportsbet account at one stage because I was always interested in the odds at election time, but I'm not a gambler. I think it's because I grew up in a household with a problem gambler, and I don't want any child to have that experience.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What we can do in this bill is find the balance and restore the balance. We can minimise children's exposure to harmful wagering advertising. We can break the link between sport and wagering and restore that love of the game without being bombarded. We can reduce the risk and targeting of wagering in advertising and ensure that that great pastime remains a great pastime for people and doesn't chase them when they wake up in the morning, when they're at home or when they're in the workplace; that it's done in a safe way; and that, if they need help, they can get help.</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Garland, Carina MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
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                  <electorate>Chisholm</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">Bell, Angie MP</name>
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                <electorate>Moncrieff</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BELL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moncrieff</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:24</span>):  I rise today to speak on the Interactive Gambling Amendment (Gambling Reform) Bill 2026. I want to thank the member for Nicholls for his outstanding contribution to this debate earlier. He highlighted some concerns very similar to those I have with Labor's bill as well.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to begin with something very simple. This debate is not about telling responsible Australian adults how to spend their money. That's their choice. That's their freedom of choice. It's not about telling someone who enjoys a punt on the Melbourne Cup that they shouldn't have one. I, indeed, enjoy that myself. It's not about telling families who buy a lottery ticket on a Saturday that they are doing something wrong somehow. And it's certainly not about treating every Australian who places a bet as a problem gambler. Most Australians understand the difference between entertainment and addiction, and most Australians take responsibility for their own decisions. I believe in that personal responsibility, as a Liberal.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As the shadow minister for youth, my greatest concern lies with our young people, particularly our children, because children don't get to make the same informed choices that adults do. They don't have the same understanding of risk. They don't have the financial independence or maturity to understand the consequences of addiction. And yet we are allowing gambling to become increasingly normalised in the environments where our children spend their time. Around 600,000 Australian teenagers under the age of 18 gamble each year. That's a big number—600,000. It's not an abstract statistic. It's sons and daughters. It's young people sitting on the couch, watching the footy with their families. It's our responsibility to protect those young people.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to share a story I was told in a meeting this week with the Salvation Army, who support those who are most vulnerable in our community. It's the story of a 17-year-old. Let's call him Kyle. He was living in a youth refuge when he opened up about his gambling addiction. He'd been gambling on a sports betting app since he got his first job—good on you, Kyle—at 14. He said: 'I pay rent, bet the rest and get my mates to buy me food. But they know when I win I'll pay them back.' It doesn't leave much wriggle room, does it? Kyle's story really stayed with me because, at 17, he should be thinking about schoolwork, his mates and his future, not how he's going to find enough money to keep on gambling.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What struck me most is that Kyle didn't start gambling when he turned 18, as an adult. No, he started when he was 14. That's why this debate matters to me as the shadow minister for youth. We can talk about billions of dollars in losses, advertising regulations and industry revenue, and all of those things matter, but behind every statistic is a person encountering harm. Sometimes, that person is a child. As young people are growing up in a world where a gambling advertisement can appear on their phone, on social media, around sport and, increasingly, alongside the entertainment they consume, we need to ask ourselves: what are we teaching our children about gambling? If every time a child watches a sporting match they see gambling promoted, they hear odds discussed as casually as a score and they see betting presented as part of the excitement of sport, we shouldn't be surprised when gambling starts to feel normal to them. Gambling harm is not normal. Sport should be an opportunity to bring families and communities together. Sport delivers opportunities; it should not be a vehicle for marketing gambling products to children. That's why I have serious concerns about this bill in its current form.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The coalition has three fundamental principles when it comes to gambling reform. First, Australians should have choice—choice that a democracy delivers. Second, adults should take responsibility for their decisions and their actions. That is not easy when you're being harmed by gambling. Third, government has an obligation to protect vulnerable Australians, particularly children, from exploitation and harm. Those principles are not contradictory. In fact, I believe they are common sense. We should be able to strike a balance. We can respect the freedom of responsible adults while recognising that children should be protected. We don't expect a 10-year-old to understand the risks associated with every financial product. We don't expect a teenager to have the same capacity for judgement as, say, a 40-year-old. And we shouldn't expect children to navigate an increasingly sophisticated gambling industry on their own.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The industry has enormous resources. It has sophisticated data. It has sophisticated marketing. It understands consumer behaviour. And some operators have demonstrated just how targeted that marketing can become.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The evidence heard by the Senate inquiry last week should concern every member of this parliament. Former NRL player Luke Bateman gave damning evidence about his experience with VIP account managers, including claims that he was targeted with bonus bets, drugs and other inducements. That testimony should make us all stop and think, because, if sophisticated adults can be targeted and manipulated in this way, what chance does a vulnerable young person or a child have?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The advertising provisions are simply not good enough. One of my biggest concerns with this bill is that it does not go far enough to protect children from gambling advertising. On its face, the bill would permit up to three gambling advertisements per hour during children's television—three gambling advertisements per hour. I struggle to understand how that can possibly be described as putting children's welfare first. We know advertising works—businesses don't spend billions of dollars on advertising because it has no influence on behaviour—and, when children repeatedly see gambling associated with sport, excitement, success and social activity, it contributes to the normalisation of gambling.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We need to be particularly careful about the message we are sending to young people, who are already surrounded by digital advertising. A teenager can sit down to watch a game; they can pick up their phone during the game; they can open up social media, watch a sporting highlight or go on to a streaming platform. Everywhere they turn, they can encounter gambling. That's the environment today's young Australians are growing up in, and government needs to recognise that reality.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government proposes to weaken elements of the gambling advertisement restrictions introduced by the former coalition government. In 2018, the coalition introduced a broadcast and online ban on gambling advertisements during live sport, including the five-minute blackout before and after live sport between 5 am and 8.30 pm. That was an important reform, yet this bill would allow digital platforms to show gambling advertisements during scheduled and unscheduled breaks in live sport, subject to the proposed triple-lock opt-out. For live sport streamed online, gambling advertisements could appear during breaks in play. That means a child watching a game online could potentially see a gambling advertisement immediately after a goal. The five-minute blackout before and after live sport has also been removed for online streaming. So we need to ask: why are we weakening protections when we should be, in fact, strengthening them? The Prime Minister has repeatedly suggested that this government is introducing a ban on gambling advertising during live sport, but the reality is that the coalition government introduced that ban eight years ago. Australians deserve honesty about what this legislation actually does.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">None of this is to suggest that gambling is inherently wrong. It's not. Millions of Australians participate in legal forms of gambling—we know that.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But we cannot ignore the harm experienced by some Australians and their family. Australians lost approximately $32.2 billion to legal gambling in 2023-24. Those are among the highest per-capita gambling losses in the world. And the consequences aren't just financial. Gambling addiction can contribute to psychological distress; it can cause relationship breakdown; it can cause or contribute to financial hardship; it can affect people's ability, indeed, to work—and families often carry the consequences alongside the person experiencing their addiction. A parent who can't pay the mortgage, a family struggling to pay the bills, a relationship under enormous strain, children who don't understand why there isn't enough money for the things their friends take for granted—these are the human consequences behind the numbers. And that's why this parliament has a responsibility to get the balance right.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">At the same time, I want to make something very clear: we cannot pretend that the gambling and wagering industries don't matter to Australia. They do. The gambling sector directly employs around 33,000 Australians. Gambling-specific taxes generate more than $10 billion for governments around Australia, which contributes to critical infrastructure projects and programs. The racing industry is particularly important to regional communities. Thoroughbred racing contributes more than $13 billion in economic activity and supports more than 100,000 jobs. More than half of those jobs are in regional Australia. So, when we talk about gambling reform, we need to be responsible in our approach. Good regulation should target harm without creating unnecessary harm of its own. That means listening to the community. It means listening to families, to experts, to industry and carefully considering the evidence before making changes that affect thousands of businesses, workers and the community. And that's the track record of the coalition.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When we were in government, we delivered some of the most significant gambling harm minimisation measures in Australia's history. We introduced the broadcast and online ban on gambling advertising during live sport. We legislated BetStop, the national self-exclusion register, to help people who need support to take a break from gambling, and we prohibited betting companies from offering sign-up inducements under the national consumer protection framework. These were meaningful reforms and they were designed to reduce harm while preserving choice for responsible adults. That is the balance we should be seeking today.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What is particularly disappointing about this bill is the time the government has had to get it right. The Murphy inquiry handed down its report in June 2023, and it contained 31 recommendations covering gambling regulation, consumer protections, advertising research and harm minimisation. Australians have waited more than three years for the government's legislative response, and, when that response finally came, it was released on budget day, when journalists were in budget lock-up. That is hardly the kind of open and transparent consultation Australians should expect for legislation of this significance. The government then opposed the current Senate inquiry into this bill.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But ultimately, for me, this debate comes back to the young Australians that we all represent in this place. I think about the young people who are growing up surrounded by technology. They're exposed to more advertising and more commercial influences than any previous generation, and we have a responsibility to make sure that the things we allow into that environment are indeed appropriate. There are many things that aren't. Our children should be able to watch sport without being sold a bet. They should be able to enjoy their favourite team without being told what the odds are. They should be able to watch a game without gambling being presented as an essential part of the experience.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The normalisation of gambling doesn't happen overnight; it happens gradually. A bet here, an ad there, an odds promotion during a game, a bonus bet, and before long something that should be treated as an adult activity becomes just another part of growing up. That's what concerns me. So let me be clear about where the coalition stands: we support reducing gambling harm, we support protecting vulnerable Australians, we support protecting children, we support evidence based reform and we support responsible adults having the freedom to make their own responsible choices.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">After three years of delay, deflection and deception over gambling reform, the Albanese government's failings on this bill are inexcusable. Australians can be assured we won't be supporting this deficient legislation in its current form. That said, we appreciate that the government is engaging with the opposition in good faith to strengthen this bill, and those negotiations, of course, are ongoing. There have been a range of negotiations between the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition, as well as between the communications minister and the shadow minister for communications and digital safety. While the second reading debate is now underway, potential amendments to this bill are still being worked through. These will then return to our party room to be considered and to be finalised.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We need stronger protections around gambling advertising, we need to address gambling inducements that target vulnerable people, and we need to make sure that existing protections are not quietly weakened through changes to online gambling advertising. This isn't about stopping a responsible Australian from having a punt. It's about making sure that a child doesn't grow up believing that gambling is simply part of watching sport. It's about making sure that vulnerable Australians aren't deliberately targeted by sophisticated marketing. And it's about making sure that families don't have to pick up the pieces when gambling does become an addiction. It's about recognising that, while adults can make choices for themselves, children depend on us to make responsible choices for them. As the shadow minister for youth, I take that responsibility the most seriously. We owe our children an environment where they can grow up, play sport, watch sport and enjoy life without gambling being marketed to them at every turn.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Chaffey, Jamie MP</name>
                <name.id>316312</name.id>
                <electorate>Parkes</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CHAFFEY</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Parkes</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:39</span>):  I rise to speak to the Interactive Gambling Amendment (Gambling Reform) Bill 2026. We know Australians are amongst the biggest gamblers in the world. They like to have a go, they like to take a chance and they love to see the long shot come from behind to in front of others despite all odds. But there is a difference between having a couple of dollars on the Melbourne Cup and an addiction that leads to people losing their jobs, their homes and their families. There are people who can safely have a bet every now and then, and then there are those people that cannot put the brakes on, who fall into addiction. And the technology has made it easier and easier for us to lose everything.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In my maiden speech, when I was elected to parliament as the member for Parkes, I spoke about the strengths and the forbearance of my stepfather. My stepfather was a hardworking lucerne farmer who put in long hours to support the family that became his own. He provided financially for us, but it was never enough. It would have been enough if it weren't for the gambling addiction of my mother. The extent of this addiction only became fully known to us in the family when she began to show signs of dementia at the age of 74. It was the only thing that stopped her addiction.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My mother's story is not only her story. It's my stepfather's story. It's my story. It's my sisters' story. It's all of our family's story and our friends' story. Her gambling addiction led to other stresses and sorrows in our family—her violence towards my stepfather and all of the pain that went with that. One disease led to another. There were financial stresses and emotional stresses. It impacted on every part of growing up and has left the scars that will remain with all of us forever. This is the case for almost all Australians who are addicted to gambling. It would be a rare case for someone to suffer this addiction without it becoming a problem for all of those within their life.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My mother found a way to gamble wherever she was, whenever she could, whether it was the pokies or the horses. When she became less mobile in her elderly years, it was phone accounts. Today, you don't have to go down to the TAB or to the pokies to hand over your pay packet. You can do it online in the comfort of your own home. You can do it secretly, unaware of or unwilling to acknowledge the damage it's doing to you or to your family. You can gamble all day, every day, spending every last dollar and then some. Gambling is accessible everywhere—in thousands of different forms, right across Australia. The lure of a better bet or just forgetting your own life for a while is just too great for some of those who can't see it any other way.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the end, not only are Australians the biggest gamblers; they are also the biggest losers. The St Vincent de Paul Society submission on this bill stated that Australians lost $36 billion on gambling in the 12 months to March 2026. That's $1,635 per adult. Instead of going into the budget for the rising power bills, for the mortgage payment, for the food, the fuel, the school fees, this money is being fed into pokies. It's being spent on scratchies and keno, on betting on horses and dogs and just about any other kind of sport, and straight off the credit card on online gambling. Giving away money through gambling has unfortunately been normalised right throughout our country. This is despite the sad and terrible stories of so many ordinary people. Some of those stories we heard at last week's Senate inquiry.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Clubs and pubs have always held a place in regional communities as employers, as supporters of our community and as contributors to our economy. About 33,000 Australians work in the gambling sector, and it contributes billions of dollars in wages and economic activity. Gambling specific taxes add more than $10 billion into government budgets to go towards essential services. Horseracing is not only an Australian tradition; it contributes more than $13 billion in economic activity. More than half of the 100,000 jobs in the industry are in regional areas. Charities, not-for-profit organisations and community programs benefit from gambling revenue. There remains a place for clubs and pubs, there is no doubt about that.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There remains a place for horseracing and for sponsorship and for responsible betting in Australia. It is the insidious practices in this sector that are the darkest part: the inducements held out to those who can least afford them, to those who are already in serious trouble. Those practices tell people with an addiction to go on, to have another bet, that this one will 'pay for the rest' and asks them, 'What harm could it do?'</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have heard, over and over again, the harm it can do, and it is considerable harm. The hearings also heard of inducements—such as illegal drugs, hotel rooms, sex workers, games tickets—to keep people gambling. In whose world is this acceptable? Gambling companies are targeting those who have tried to get out of gambling, who have closed their accounts, luring them back into addiction. How is this justifiable? They are offering free bets just to keep gamblers coming back and coming back and coming back again. People have turned to fraud, to stealing from family members and to hurting those around them just to put on the next bet. We need to take action against these inducements, these evil words whispered into the ears of those who are already on their knees.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Why do we need gambling ads during children's television? Why do we need to open the way for more gambling ads during online streaming or live sports? Why do we need businesses personally targeting those who are vulnerable, like my mother? There are people throughout every town, in every community, who are impacted, and the true cost could be hidden for months or even years. The damage can be felt for generations. I know, in this place, we often disagree, but I also know that everyone here today, in this federal parliament, wants to make a positive difference to the lives of those who are suffering this terrible addiction.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">All of us would like for no more people within Australia, or their families, to go through the damaging effects of gambling. I know that this damage is something we do not want for future generations. I want my children and my grandchildren to know the difference between having a flutter on the Melbourne Cup and handing over your family's hard-earned savings to gambling. I want my grandchildren to grow up in a safe environment. We need stronger measures to ensure we help protect young people from becoming addicted to gambling. There has been too much delay. It has allowed people to slip through the cracks. It has allowed families to go without and to face the fallout of a family member who has a serious addiction.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm sure you've heard all about it, but it cannot be said enough: our approach as a coalition is based on three fundamental principles. First, we are a free and fun-loving country, and Australians deserve choice. Second, adults must be responsible for their own actions and their own decisions. Third, we, as leaders in government, have a real obligation to protect those who are vulnerable, particularly children, from exploitation and harm. These are principles that can work seamlessly together in many other areas. Australians are good people—strong, innovative, enterprising, family people—but, like any person around the world, there are people who are particularly vulnerable.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We cannot throw the doors open to those who would take advantage of them. They are taking advantage of not only the vulnerable but also the families who love them. There is a way to walk the line between protecting the vulnerable and the freedoms of all Australians, but it is not the way you see before you in this legislation. It goes further, but it does not go far enough. While I support tougher measures, this legislation is a missed opportunity to go further and to get it right. I know from experience how deep the cut of gambling addiction can be. I feel very strongly that we should be sparing others from this pain. Gambling causes immeasurable harm, a harm that can never be conveyed in dollars. It is important to see this important concern on the table. It is a pity that, in future years, this legislation will mean that it needs to be brought back, again and again, to be further improved.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>19</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Le, Dai MP</name>
                <name.id>295676</name.id>
                <electorate>Fowler</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                    <a href="295676" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fowler</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:50</span>):  A constituent of mine from Villawood said this just recently: 'I don't want my community, especially our kids, growing up thinking gambling and sports are inseparable.' He's a father. He coaches his son's junior side on Saturday mornings. He is not an activist. He has never lobbied a politician in his life, and he came to see me about something else entirely, but he needed to tell us that. He was asking for his son to be able to watch a game of football without being taught, ad by ad, that betting is simply part of it. I myself have had loved ones who've been impacted by gambling, as I'm sure many members of this House have heard. Many members of the House have also shared stories from their own experience as well as from their constituents. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My proposition today is a simple one: Australians should be able to watch the footy, use their phones or sit with their children in the lounge room without being relentlessly targeted by gambling advertising. Betting companies should not follow people from the television screen to their phones, from the live commentary to their social feeds and into their text messages. Our children should not grow up recognising betting logos as easily as they recognise the jersey of their favourite team.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Let me put some of the numbers to what this looks like in my electorate. Fowler has long been the epicentre of gambling harm in this country. The profits flow to the wagering industry; the damage stays on our doorstep. For years, the Fairfield local government area, at the heart of my electorate, has ranked among the worst in New South Wales for gambling losses. The latest club gaming report, covering the three months from December 2025 to February 2026, shows Fairfield was the single highest losing local government area in the entire state. In 90 days, my community lost $131 million on gaming machines in clubs alone. That is more than a million dollars leaving the pockets of local families every single day. Broken down further, it is roughly $60,000 an hour, close to what a typical household in my electorate earns in an entire year—gone in 60 minutes. Across the whole of 2025, total losses on gaming machines in Fairfield exceeded $720 million. In neighbouring Liverpool, which my electorate also takes in, losses have risen 17.5 per cent in a single year—not levelling or declining but accelerating.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">None of those figures include online sports betting. They do not include betting apps, racing or lotteries. When you add those, the drain on the families of Fowler is difficult to comprehend. I understand gambling machines are regulated by states, not by this parliament, but it's important to know the numbers, which tell you about the ground on which this bill lands. In multicultural, hardworking communities like mine, gambling harm is deeply entrenched. We cannot then allow online wagering platforms to exploit the same vulnerability by turning every smartphone into a portable casino. This parliament has a duty to act where it holds the power.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm not here to attack our clubs. In south-west Sydney, our clubs are not simply gaming rooms. They are where families hold funerals and weddings. They are where a pensioner can get a meal that they can actually afford. They are where our kids play sports, where community language groups meet and where new arrivals find their footing. Many of the people I represent are employed there, so I will not stand in this place and pretend that that is nothing. I know where my community chooses to spend their Friday nights and their weekends with their families and where they can go to eat cheap meals, but I will not pretend that a million dollars a day is the price of a community meal. Both of those things are true at once, and the people I represent are perfectly capable of holding both.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The national picture is stark. Australians lost approximately $32.2 billion on legal gambling in the 2023-24 financial year—$32.2 billion. We have the highest gambling losses per person of any country in the world. Adults in this country lose an average of more than $1,500 every year to gambling, and total losses have risen 26 per cent since 2018-19. One million Australians either experience severe gambling harm themselves or live with someone who does. Many more have lost more than they can afford. Australia has taken a lax approach for decades, and the consequences are plain. Per capita losses have grown almost every year since national reporting began in 1975.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is not about advertising being annoying. Gambling advertising exposes Australians, including children, to a product that causes serious harm with very little corresponding social benefit. It normalises gambling from an early age. It teaches children that betting is part of sport, rather than a commercial product engineered to extract money from their families.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Grattan Institute and public health experts have made the point that gambling products are uniquely addictive—and I think we've heard often in this House, from many members, about how those products are designed to make them very addictive. That is why we must move past the idea that this is solely a matter of individual responsibility. The traditional 'responsible gambling' framing places the entire burden on one person, while ignoring the extraordinary imbalance between a single consumer and a multibillion-dollar industry armed with data, algorithms and marketing.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We learned this lesson with tobacco. We did not ask individuals to resist cigarette advertising through willpower. We recognised the risks and we restricted the marketing.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That brings me to this bill before us, the Interactive Gambling Amendment (Gambling Reform) Bill 2026. I acknowledge the government's intention to begin addressing this, but this bill falls short of what is required. In 2023, the Murphy report, <span style="font-style:italic;">You </span><span style="font-style:italic;">win some, you lose more</span>, gave this parliament a clear road map. That bipartisan inquiry produced 31 practical, evidence based recommendations. The bill before us adopts only three of them—just three out of 31.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">First, there's the advertising cap. Three ads per hour between 6 am and 8.30 pm still allows very significant exposure, because that is peak time. Three ads every hour, all day, means children will continue to see betting woven into ordinary sports viewing, and it leaves peak evening viewing unaddressed. We should be honest about what happens when we leave loopholes. Previous restrictions during live sport did not end the saturation; companies simply found other routes to the same audience. A partial ban risks pushing advertising into direct marketing, inducements, social media, streaming and targeted messages aimed at people already in trouble. That is why the Murphy report did not recommend a cap; it recommended a comprehensive ban across broadcast and online media, phased in over three years. A phased approach gives broadcasters and sporting codes time to replace that revenue, as they have adapted before. Sports will survive without gambling ads. Families in Fowler have already waited long enough.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Second, there's the racing exemption. By excluding horse, harness and greyhound racing from the definition of a 'sporting event', a substantial share of gambling advertising remains untouched, despite racing being a major source of harm.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Third, there's the timeline on stadium and uniform branding. Allowing those arrangements until late 2031 means another five years of children seeing betting logos on the teams they love. Five more years is a childhood that will be still exposed to that.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Fourth, there's age verification. Asking platforms to take reasonable steps while prohibiting high-integrity methods such as government ID makes it harder, not easier, to keep young people out.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There is a fifth gap, and I do not believe anyone else in this debate will raise it. In communities like mine, gambling harm carries a heavy stigma. Families deal with financial ruin in silence. People fear judgement. They hide losses from their partners, their families and loved ones. They tell themselves one more bet will fix it. By the time anyone asks for help, the damage is done. Now, add this to it: in Fowler, more than three quarters of people speak a language other than English at home. Our gambling help services, our self-exclusion register and our awareness campaigns are built in English for English speakers. A Vietnamese Australian grandmother, an Assyrian Australian father or grandfather or a Khmer Australian in Cabramatta, Canley Vale or Liverpool cannot ask for help in a language nobody offers it in. Not one line in this bill addresses that, and it should.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There's one more thing we do not do: we do not count. There is not a single published figure for what my electorate loses on online wagering—not by council, not by state and not by this parliament. We meticulously count every dollar lost on machines. The online industry, we do not measure at all. We cannot properly regulate what we refuse to count.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Alongside many on the crossbench, I believe this parliament should aim at the full version of the Murphy report. First, we need a phased, comprehensive ban on gambling advertising across all platforms. Second, we need direct action on inducements—the bonus bets and the deposit matches that exist for one purpose, which is to keep people chasing losses—not merely the VIP perks that reach the few but the everyday offers that reach the many. Third, we need a strong national precommitment framework for online wagering with enforceable maximum-loss limits. Precommitment means a person decides, before they gamble, what they can afford to lose, and the system holds them to it. It must be a genuine safeguard not a box-ticking exercise where someone nominates a limit nobody could ever reach. Fourth, we need help services, self-exclusion tools and awareness campaigns delivered in languages our communities actually speak.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">While machines remain a state responsibility, the Commonwealth has a clear duty to bring states together and pursue nationally consistent mandatory precommitment. Communities like Fowler cannot afford governments passing responsibility back and forth while hundreds of millions of dollars disappear.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Television networks and sporting codes can adapt. They have adapted before, and they will again. The families in my electorate have less room to adapt. The median personal income in Fowler is about $520 a week, and 46 per cent of renting households are in rental stress. This is money that was meant for groceries, for school, for shoes or for a bond. The question is simply this: can families in Fairfield, in Liverpool and across Australia afford another quarter of losses like the last one, without stronger protections in place?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge the work of my crossbench colleagues in this House and in the Senate who have pursued these reforms with clarity and persistence. I will support every amendment that makes this bill stronger because my community cannot afford another decade of incrementalism. But I want to be honest with the people I represent about what this bill will and will not do. It will take some advertisements off some screens; it will not take millions of dollars a day out of Fairfield. They deserve to be told that plainly.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to come back to that father in Villawood. He was not asking for much, only that his son can watch a game without being sold something every time he does. That is not a lot to ask. This parliament should be able to deliver it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to say this message: if gambling is affecting you or someone that you love, please call the National Gambling Helpline. The number is 1800858858. It's free. It's confidential. It's 24 hours a day with interpreters available.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>21</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Tehan, Dan MP</name>
                <name.id>210911</name.id>
                <electorate>Wannon</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                    <a href="210911" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TEHAN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wannon</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:04</span>):  I've got to start today by saying that I like a punt. I like a bet. I like having a beer with my mates and having a bet. I also have a stake in a couple of horses, and I love horseracing and the horseracing industry. I think there is no better sight in Australia than the Grand Annual steeplechase being run with 14,000 people there at the venue. It's the largest crowd you will get outside of a metropolitan race meeting like the Melbourne Cup or the carnival in Sydney, with them all standing up on the hill watching horses do what they've done for over 100 years. As a matter of fact, the Grand Annual steeplechase will be run for the 150th time next year. But it's not just events like that; it's the Dunkeld Cup, where you get young people who've finished school all going there—and, once again, you'll get 8,000 to 10,000 people in a beautiful setting, with Mount Sturgeon as the backdrop, just having fun and enjoying themselves. If you go to Coleraine and to Casterton, these are wonderful racetracks which have wonderful race meetings. You can go to Hamilton and watch the horse trials, and you get a sense of the people that are employed in the horseracing industry. You see the jockeys, the trainers and everyone else—the strappers who love and care for the horses like there is no tomorrow. It just gives you a sense of people getting up early, working hard and doing something that they love.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I can go right around my electorate and see things like this. It can be the Warrnambool dogs and the wonderful meeting they have during the Warrnambool Racing Carnival. You can go to Hamilton for the harness racing; they do a fantastic job. People come from south-west Victoria and South Australia, bringing their horses to participate. Terang is another great meeting. Mortlake is another great meeting. I'm going to leave parts of my electorate out. Ararat has both harness and great thoroughbred racing; people come and participate in the Ararat Cup, which is fantastic. It is the same in Colac. Right throughout my electorate, this is an industry which is creating jobs and giving passion to people who are involved in it in a way that's very hard to capture.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have to make sure that the ability for people to race is always there, because it's something we've always done. If you try and take it away, it won't work. Prohibition won't work. You have to, like you have to do with all things when you are being responsible in government, make sure you get the balance right. For me, with these gambling reforms, getting the balance right is absolutely crucial. We don't want to impact and hurt an industry which provides thousands and thousands of jobs in regional and rural Australia and in urban Australia while we deal with something we need to deal with—that is, gambling advertising and the change which is occurring in society, in the way that gambling advertising is working, so that we protect children and protect people who are very vulnerable to being exploited.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Getting the balance right is exactly what the government and the opposition want to do. We want to make sure that there are sensible changes which address keeping harmful advertising away from children, and we want to make sure that, for those who have identified themselves as having a problem when it comes to gambling, we do what we can in the best way that we can to protect them—all while not impacting on those who like to have a bet or on those industries which provide such enjoyment and, in particular, much-needed employment which generates incomes and puts roofs on homes, over people's heads, so they can bring up families and participate in the community. That is what we need to see in this bill.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I think we're all in agreement—those on the government side and us on the opposition side—that the first attempt made by the government probably doesn't get the balance right. There have been some very sensible suggestions as to how we can change it and get the balance right. When we're dealing with issues like this, I think this place works well when there is a lot of passion on both sides. And I understand why there is a lot of passion on both sides.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I had a family member who got in a lot of trouble because of their gambling. If it wasn't for a brother stepping in, helping and supporting them, they would have got in very serious trouble. My uncle was able to help my other uncle to basically straighten himself up and to stop the harm that he was causing himself. It is critically important that we provide avenues and mechanisms to help those who need help, and that is what we're seeking to do.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're trying—and should be trying—to do it in a way where we don't take away the individual right of an adult to spend their money how they see fit. If they get enjoyment from putting $25 on a horse or $25 on a pacer or $25 on a greyhound, they should be able to do it. And, if they're offered money back for running second or third, they should be able to take that up. I like the fact that, when I have a bet and the horse finishes second, I get my money back. I can't see what's wrong with that. That's a good offer which I'm happy to take up. I will say here quite publicly that sometimes you win; sometimes you lose. The way it works, more often than not, is that the bookies who set the odds are trying to make sure they're the ones that win. But sometimes they'll offer you odds more in your favour or offer you money back for running second and third. That ultimately should be a choice that you have.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As a House and as a Senate, as a parliament as a whole, if we sit down and work this through, I think we can get the balance right. What I see as getting the balance right is making sure that we address the issue when it comes to children and their exposure to gambling advertising—and we should do that in the best way we possibly can—and that we make sure we look after those who are vulnerable, those who can be exploited; we have to make sure we're dealing with them. But we also have to make sure that we're not forcing gambling offshore nor forcing gambling towards organised crime. That will help no-one. We've got to make sure that we continue to have legalised gambling happening here in a way which benefits the industries which provide really important jobs and really important occasions for society. In particular, if we get this balance right, it will mean in my electorate that Terang, Hamilton, Coleraine and Casterton will still be able to offer race meetings, where the community come together and enjoy themselves.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'll end on this point: if you want to see a community enjoy itself, then, for the 150th running of the Grand Annual Steeplechase in Warrnambool next year, make sure you get down and participate and see the spectacle for what it is. You can come, you can have a bet and you can have a drink. You can come and you don't have to have a bet. You don't have to have a drink. It's your choice. But you can come and watch an event which brings the community together, brings thorough enjoyment to everyone who's involved, whether it be the trainers, whether it be the jockeys, whether it be the strappers, whether it be everyone else involved in the industry or the community, who like nothing better than coming together and enjoying themselves and having fun.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>23</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Conaghan, Pat MP</name>
                <name.id>279991</name.id>
                <electorate>Cowper</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="279991" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CONAGHAN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Cowper</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:15</span>):  I'm pleased to rise to speak to the Interactive Gambling Amendment (Gambling Reform) Bill and I do so as the former chair of the committee that put forward what is known as the Murphy report. I'm glad to be speaking last because I've listened to many of the contributions to this bill and it would seem that there is a broad misunderstanding of the role of the committee. The role of the committee wasn't to ban gambling. It wasn't to restrict choice for punters to go out and do just that—have a punt. It wasn't to cripple the gambling industry that creates over 30,000 jobs a year. It was to stop the predatory practices by online wagering services that cause so much devastation throughout our communities, and that seems to be forgotten. The predatory practices by the online wagering services have gone on for so long. If I go through the history, we're going back to late 2022 when this committee started and the report wasn't published until mid 2023. The late Peta Murphy, who was not only a highly intelligent lawyer but a fierce parliamentarian, was extremely passionate about this committee.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">During the inquiry, we heard from two different groups: (1) those who are affected; (2) those who inflict it. Witness after witness came into this place and spoke of loved ones, family members, who were targeted by predatory online wagering services. Some of them survived; some of them didn't. We heard evidence from a family member who had to cut down her brother from a tree because he was targeted even though he had tried and tried and tried to get away from these practices of online wagering services. There are other people whose family members didn't survive because of the debt and the shame of what they went through.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Now, I accept we can't protect everybody from themselves but what we can do as a parliament is stop this type of behaviour from those who inflict it. Those online wagering services that gave evidence, in my view, simply diminished or demeaned the situation, placated the committee by saying, 'We will work with you,' but have since done nothing but lobby both sides to weaken the legislation, and they continue to do that today.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Everyone in this place is on a committee. I ask: What's the point? What is the point of being on a committee that delivers 31 recommendations unanimously—no dissenting reports—to the government to say, 'This is what we have considered.'? This comes from evidence from people who have been affected. This comes from the intelligence of every single member sitting in this place on that committee, and we say, 'This is what should be implemented'—only to be discarded: 'Well, we're not going to take that into account.' What's the point? What's the point of having elected representatives come into this place and sit on committees and make recommendations? Those recommendations don't just come from us; they come from our constituents. Why are we here?</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor sit over there and laud Peta Murphy—and so they should. She was a wonderful woman and a great parliamentarian. Well, step up and make it not the Murphy recommendations or the Murphy report but the Murphy reform. Implement those 31 recommendations. That won't make gambling fall off the face of the earth; that's rubbish. It's just like what they said when they cut advertising for smoking. Smoking rates have never been higher—you can thank the Labor government for that; that's a different issue. The racing industry won't be affected. The gambling industry won't be affected. Those working won't be affected. Gambling won't go overseas. Nothing will change except we will be providing those barriers for predatory practices on vulnerable people.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Step up, Labor. Step up and implement those recommendations, because Peta worked hard. We all worked hard on those recommendations, and we listened. They're not just stories; these are people. These are real people who will suffer for the rest of their lives because of those practices.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill, the main bill, does nothing. In fact, it waters down the 2018 position of the coalition. There is no point to the main bill. It won't protect anyone. It won't stop the inducements and the predatory practices that we have seen. I don't care if you gamble—I gamble—but gambling harm does not discriminate.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As a lawyer, I acted for a young man who was another lawyer—highly intelligent—who stole a great deal of money from his employer, from the trust account. He knew, eventually, once that trust account was audited, he would be found out. He was smart, but he couldn't stop. He was being targeted by these online wagering services, given inducements and money. We can't just say, 'Well, that's okay; it's up to an individual.' We have a responsibility. The responsibility lies in those 31 recommendations. They should be implemented at least for the memory of Peta Murphy.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>24</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
                <name.id>264121</name.id>
                <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="264121" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms WELLS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:23</span>):  I thank members for their contributions to the debate on the Interactive Gambling Amendment (Gambling Reform) Bill 2026 and the National Self-exclusion Register (Cost Recovery Levy) Amendment Bill 2026. The government will not support the member for Ryan's or the member for Curtin's second reading amendments, as they do not deal with the substance of these bills.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Thank you to my colleagues in the Labor caucus who have engaged sincerely and constructively on this important issue. I also thank the Labor rank-and-file members who built the Australian Labor Party platform and now rightfully recognise that reducing gambling harm is a priority of our party. Great things happen when lots of small things are brought together.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I also acknowledge the work of the Senate Environment and Communications Legislation Committee in considering these bills, and the members of the community—particularly the harm reduction advocates and the survivors of gambling harm—who gave evidence and gave much of themselves in coming to this place for the recent inquiry. As we have heard through the debate, for many Australians, gambling harm is not an abstract policy problem eased by parliamentary debate. It is a parent worried about what their child is absorbing by watching sport. It is a friend trying to take that courageous first step away from secret gambling. It is a family dealing with the consequences when gambling stops being entertainment and starts becoming harm.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What we have before us is a significant and meaningful suite of reforms that will do more than any other Australian government has to protect children, families and communities from gambling harms. These reforms will minimise children's exposure to wagering advertising while reducing the overall saturation of advertising on television and radio and the targeting and saturation of advertising online. The bill also contains provisions to disrupt illegal gambling operators and crack down on online lottery products. The bill also strengthens BetStop, the national self-exclusion register, so it can better support Australians at risk of gambling harm. The cost recovery levy bill enables the costs of a comprehensive national awareness campaign to be recovered from industry, ensuring more Australians know about BetStop and can access it when they need to with no cost to taxpayers.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Together, these reforms represent the strongest action to date on online gambling harm. The measures will commence from 1 January 2027, and we have consulted broadly with stakeholders to ensure effective implementation. The Australian Communications and Media Authority will be empowered with a range of strong and proportionate penalties to deter noncompliance with the new rules and act faster against illegal operators. ACMA has also been provided with additional resourcing to strengthen BetStop compliance and enforcement and to support more awareness raising and system improvements.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It is clear from this debate that the parliament has strong views on the prevalence of gambling advertising, along with the use of inducements by wagering service providers to target vulnerable customers. I remain committed to working constructively across the parliament on sensible additions to strengthen this bill further. We want to see it passed, so see you next week for amendments.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="299498" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Boyce</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  In accordance with the resolution agreed on 12 August 2026, the debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next sitting.</span>
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              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>24</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Boyce, Colin MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>299498</name.id>
                  <electorate>Flynn</electorate>
                  <party>LNP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>BUSINESS</title>
        <page.no>24</page.no>
        <type>BUSINESS</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">BUSINESS</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Rearrangement</title>
          <page.no>24</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Rearrangement</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>24</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Giles, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>243609</name.id>
              <electorate>Scullin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="243609" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GILES</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Scullin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Skills and Training</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:27</span>):  I move:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That government business order of the day No. 3 be called on immediately.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>24</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">BILLS</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>24</page.no>
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            <a href="r7501" type="Bill">
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>24</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>24</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Pasin, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>240756</name.id>
                <electorate>Barker</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="240756" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr PASIN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Barker</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:27</span>):  Mr Deputy Speaker, I wish to draw your attention to the state of the House.</span>
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                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">(Quorum formed)</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>24</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Smith, Matt MP</name>
                <name.id>312393</name.id>
                <electorate>Leichhardt</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="312393" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr MATT SMITH</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Leichhardt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:30</span>):  I rise to speak on the Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026. This bill is a lot of things—a future for our universities, more opportunity for our uni students, better outcomes for Australia—but it's important to remember that these laws are part of a much larger body of work. In February 2024, the government released the final report of the Australian Universities Accord. It's a blueprint for higher education reform over the next decade and the decade after that. The universities accord says that, over these next few decades, we'll need to increase the number of people in the workforce with a certificate or a diploma or a degree to about 80 per cent. That means more people at TAFE. That means more people at university. We need to take action now to make sure our tertiary education system is set up to deliver the skills that the future of Australia requires.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese government has implemented more than 30 of the accord's 47 recommendations in full or in part. This includes things like making HECS fairer with a 20 per cent reduction and changes to the way the marginal threshold repayment is made, introducing paid prac for the first time, and doubling the number of university and study hubs. All these things are great, but they're all very abstract when they're read out.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I grew up in a town where the options were basically 'you go work on the rigs' or 'you go away for university', and that was kind of it. A lot of guys did the rigs. A few guys did university. One of my mates became the first person from his family to go to university, and now he's the CEO of a company in Perth. That's a long way from Sale. When we were in year 12, back in the late nineties—I've just aged myself—his mother was having a conversation with my mother. My family are all tertiary educated. What his mother didn't know was: How was he going to get to school? What was it going to be like? What were his opportunities going to be? What did this mean for her and her family? And she didn't care, because, whatever it was going to take, she was going to get her eldest son to university. He got there and he excelled. His children will go and so on and so forth.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is about providing opportunity. Sometimes, in the regions, we don't always see the opportunity that is available in the cities, because we're further away, because of geography, because of a whole bunch of reasons. That's why, in the last few weeks, there have been a lot of really exciting announcements up in the Far North. There was the opening of the Yeinie Building by JCU. Cairns is lucky; we have not one but two world-class universities. Now, at JCU in Cairns, you can become a doctor from go to whoa—right the way through. And we know this for sure: if you train in the regions, you stay in the regions. This is a great outcome.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">On top of that, just last week, the sod was turned for the new CQU campus in Cairns. This will be offering a plethora of allied health opportunities: medical imaging, OT, speechies, pharmacies—all of the things that we're told every day are needed in the bush. People will come from Cairns. They'll fall in love with the Far North. They will stay and they'll deliver health outcomes for the region. It's also doing engineering. The great thing about that, though, is that no-one has to leave. Everyone gets to stay. That is an important part of the education process. I want my daughters in Cairns to believe that their future belongs in Cairns, that they can go to university in Cairns and that they'll stay and make the Far North a better place.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Speaking of openings in the Far North, I was on Thursday Island very recently with Minister Giles. We visited the Thursday Island TAFE, which opened just a couple of years ago. It was really exciting because it had been doing a bit of health work and stuff, a bit of nursing stuff but now you can complete your diploma of nursing on Thursday Island right the way through. You can stay there and go straight into the hospital or one of the many health clinics that are on the 17 islands right across the Torres Strait and the Cape, and that's really important. For people in regional areas, particularly remote regional areas, travelling away is difficult. If you live in a place where there are no traffic lights and you move to Sydney for higher education, that's a bit of whiplash.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I was in the Daintree a few weeks back and I had to go to Sydney for a committee hearing. It gave me whiplash—a lot of big shiny buildings, a lot of noise, a lot of traffic. For a young kid who is 17 or 18 years old, to have to try to cope with that is really hard. It leads to dropping out and leads to people not completing what they've started. A bit of homesickness makes it harder. This investment in trying to get regional kids to be able to study near home, be it through the study centres, be it through TAFE, be it through university, is so important to give those opportunities where people are and to make sure that the people who get those opportunities stay in those areas, the places they belong. I'll give you a tip about country kids, and I know you know this, Deputy Speaker Boyce: country kids want to be in the country. We don't like cities. It's not who we are. It's not what we're used to. You want wide open spaces. You navigate by the tree or the hill or the creek; you don't go by 'big silver building third on the left'—they all look the same.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm excited to commend this bill. I'm excited about the future of regional education. I'm excited about fee-free TAFE and what that means. I'm excited about all those new nurses who've taken the opportunity with the paid prac and fee-free TAFE, who've taken mid-career breaks. I met a woman named Terri at the Cairns TAFE, who, for a variety of reasons, had fallen into admin work. Life had taken her away from her dream as a child. Then with fee-free TAFE, she put her hand up in her 50s. She's an enrolled nurse now. She's walking the halls at Cairns Base Hospital as we speak, doing the things she wanted to do as a little girl.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I have a litmus test for jobs—that is, if you can go to Kmart and you can buy a kid's outfit for that job then that's a job that people are going to want to do going forwards, like carpentry, police, fire, nursing. These kids get to be who they want to be, what they wanted to be as a four-year old because of fee-free TAFE, because of university in the regions. I think that a lot of people would love to go back to their four-year-old selves, five-year-old selves, and take them by the hand and go, 'Look, we've done this. It might have been a circular route. It might have had a few speed bumps along the way but, because the government is investing in the education of regional people, now we are doing what we wanted to do as a young'un,' and their parents will be proud.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">To see it in Terri's face is to understand what that meant to her, what it meant to her family. Because of paid prac, she had that safety net. She didn't have to sleep in her car—as we sometimes hear—or live on those two-minute noodles. She was able to get sustenance. She was still able to get her kids to school. With all of the things involved in her day-to-day life, TAFE supported her to live out her best version of herself. In her being the best version of herself, she improved the lives of countless Far North Queenslanders because she is going to work every single day excited. She's not going to burn out. She's not ever going to be, 'Oh, I don't want to do this,' because she waited 50 years to do it—a half century, a lifetime. But she got there in the end, and I couldn't be prouder to be part of a government that has provided that to her. It goes beyond the story of Terri. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Minister Giles related the story of Ash, one of the first people who will be graduating from the Thursday Island TAFE as an enrolled nurse. He can go back to Darnley and work in the health clinic there and be a part of his community and be a part of the change to make sure that those comorbidities that we're seeing so often in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities are got on top of, because we know that community wants to listen to community first and foremost. They don't want locums. They don't want people flying in, flying out. They do a great job; don't get me wrong. But you want to have your own telling you, helping you through, showing you and guiding you in a way that you understand, that works with your culture and that works where you live. That's not unique to Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander communities. That's right across the gamut. People want to know from people like them. Country people want to hear from country people about what's right for them. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That's what this bill does. It provides the regions with the workforce moving forwards that will allow us to thrive. We are the beating heart of Australia. We generate the food. We generate the energy. We generate the heart. The more workers that we have, the more education that we have, the better off Australia will be because of this. This bill opens so many doors. Your education and your health are everything. This is such a big part of this, and I commend this bill to the House.</span>
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                <page.no>26</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Penfold, Alison MP</name>
                <name.id>248895</name.id>
                <electorate>Lyne</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms PENFOLD</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lyne</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:41</span>):  by leave—I thank the government for enabling me to continue the speech that I started here several weeks ago. For a young person growing up in Taree, Wingham, Gloucester, Dungog, Harrington, Tea Gardens, Bulahdelah, Forster-Tuncurry, the Manning Valley or one of the many hamlets spread across the Lyne electorate, pursuing a university degree has traditionally meant moving away from home, leaving family support networks behind and taking on significant additional costs before they even begin their studies. This is my story too. I grew up in Hannam Vale, attended school in Taree and then had to move to Canberra to attend the Australian National University. That opportunity changed my life, but it came at a cost, and for too many regional families those costs remain a barrier today.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Research undertaken before the establishment of the Taree Universities Campus found that fewer than 18 per cent of people in the Mid North Coast region completed a university qualification. Many young people who left to study built careers elsewhere and never returned, contributing to workforce shortages in health care, education and other critical sectors. That challenge inspired local leaders to think differently, and that is where the story of the Taree Universities Campus begins. I want to acknowledge the work of the former member for Lyne, the Hon. Dr David Gillespie, who was instrumental in supporting the establishment of the Taree Universities Campus through the regional university centres program. Together with local community leaders, he recognised that, if we wanted more regional Australians, more local people from the Manning Valley and Great Lakes area, to participate in higher education, we needed to bring opportunity closer to home.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Today, the Taree Universities Campus stands as one of the great regional education success stories in Australia. Its mission is simple: go further, closer to home. It provides local students with study spaces, technology, academic support and a community that helps them succeed while remaining connected to their families, workplaces and communities. The campus serves a region of around 94,500 people. It's not simply a study hub; it's a workplace development hub. Its model focuses on encouraging participation in higher education, supporting students through their studies and helping graduates move into local employment and careers. The success of TUC is also reflected in its broader community impact. TUC has a strong connection to local high schools in the area and holds a CareerQuip careers expo every year, which attracts over 1,800 students from across the mid coast and features more than 70 exhibitors, including universities, TAFEs, government agencies and employers. That is exactly the kind of aspiration-building initiative that regional Australia needs.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I also want to acknowledge the broader higher education ecosystem serving our region. The University of New England has maintained a presence in Taree and has been educating regional Australians for generations. The University of Newcastle has a long and proud history in our region. Charles Sturt University's Port Macquarie campus is helping train the nurses our community needs. Central Queensland University is creating pathways into teaching, engineering, business and accounting, and UNSW continues to expand opportunities for students on the Mid North Coast, including providing medical degrees in our region. These institutions understand the simple truth: talent is evenly distributed across Australia; opportunity is not.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The coalition recognises the success of the Taree Universities Campus model. That is why we committed $5.5 million towards the TUC expansion project. This funding did what few imagined, providing a permanent home for TUC in the old Greater Taree City Council chambers on Pulteney Street. That investment supports expanded teaching and learning facilities, has strengthened workforce development pathways and created additional opportunities for local students to study close to home. It's an investment in education. It's an investment in our local health care. It's an investment in regional skills and an investment in closing the gap for local Biripi and Worimi peoples. It was an investment in the future prosperity of the Manning Valley.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There is another issue that goes directly to the heart of educational opportunity in regional Australia. There is little point in creating a university place if a student cannot afford to stay the course, and there is little point in talking about widening participation if we ignore the financial realities facing students undertaking mandatory professional placements. In fact, this issue is one of the clearest examples of why regional voices matter in policy development.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Several years ago, while I was attending O-week at Charles Sturt University in Port Macquarie, I spent time speaking directly with students about the challenges they faced. Again and again, allied health students raised a simple issue. It wasn't HECS. It wasn't about course fees or academic workload. It was about mandatory professional placements. Students told me they were expected to leave paid employment for weeks or months at a time in order to complete placement requirements.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Many were travelling long distances. Many were paying for temporary accommodation but were still paying for rent at home. Many were losing income at precisely the point they needed it most. They described the impossible choice between earning a living and completing the practical training required to graduate, and those conversations stayed with me. They weren't complaints; they were just practical observations from students trying to build careers in professions that regional Australia desperately needs.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Those discussions helped shape what is now Nationals policy. We took those conversations. I worked with the Young Nationals. We developed a motion that is now part of our Nationals policy platform, and that is to support extending Commonwealth prac payments to allied health and veterinary students. We welcome the introduction of the Commonwealth prac payments for nursing, teaching, midwifery and social work students, but we have been clear that the job is not finished, because placement poverty does not stop at nursing or teaching.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">A physiotherapy student faces the same loss of income. An occupational therapy student faces the same accommodation costs. A speech pathology student faces the same financial pressures. A psychology student faces the same challenge. A veterinary student travelling to complete rural placements faces the same reality, and we sure need those big animal vets in regional Australia. If we're serious about increasing participation in higher education and addressing workforce shortages, then Commonwealth prac payments should be extended to allied health and veterinary students.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I wrote that part of the speech before the government made the announcement, and I thank the government for the commitment it made in July to extend to an additional 10 allied health disciplines. I've certainly been vocal in this chamber when there have been questions to the minister in question time. I hope you've heard me on the other side. I'm not going to claim that that's the result. You certainly heard me about the Taree urgent care clinic! I'm waiting for that one! I'm waiting for that result! We're getting something for allied health.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There is still further to go on this, but I acknowledge the government's response on this issue. I know that it will be welcomely received by students at campuses in the Lyne electorate. Opportunity is not simply about getting into university; opportunity is about being able to finish, and that's why those prac payments are very important.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This brings me to the legislation before the House, the Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026. The coalition has not yet finalised its position on this bill and will refer it to a Senate committee for detailed examination. Our final position will be informed by the evidence received through that process.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill makes significant structural changes to Australia's higher education system. At its core, it does four things. It allows the minister to determine the total pool of Commonwealth supported places to be allocated through ATEC. It allows the minister to determine the total pool of international student places. It gives the minister powers to allocate places directly, impose conditions on providers and issue directions to ATEC. It also establishes a needs based funding system, with many of the key details ultimately determined through ministerial guidelines.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The common thread running through each of these reforms is the expansion of ministerial control. This bill represents a significant transfer of authority from universities and higher education providers to the executive government. Now, some of these powers could be used constructively. They could be used to address regional workforce shortages. They could be used to increase opportunities for regional students. They could be used to support private higher education providers and improve access in areas that have historically been underserved. But parliament should not simply assume that, because they might be used wisely, powers should be granted without scrutiny.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill gives the minister substantial influence over domestic student places, international student places, needs based funding and the conditions imposed on higher education providers. Many of these decisions will not be subject to parliamentary disallowance, many will not be subject to merits review and many will depend heavily on ministerial discretion. That raises legitimate questions about accountability, transparency and oversight. It also raises questions about competition and institutional autonomy.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Competition between universities is not something to fear. Competition encourages institutions to improve quality, student experience, course offerings, academic reputation and graduate outcomes. Universities should remain accountable for public funding, but they should also retain the flexibility to respond to student demand, local workforce needs and emerging opportunities. That is particularly important for regional Australia, and that is why one of the first tests of these new powers should be whether the government is prepared to use them to support communities like mine.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">If the minister is to have greater control over Commonwealth supported places, then I would suggest his first task should be straightforward: allocate additional places to support regional education models that are already delivering results, like TUC; support more nursing places, more teaching places, more allied health places; support more opportunities through regional campuses and regional university hubs; and support places linked directly to workforce shortages that communities like mine experience every day. If these powers simply centralise decision-making in Canberra, then regional Australia gains little, but if they are used to direct opportunity towards communities that have historically been overlooked, then perhaps some good can come from this legislation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The success of the Taree Universities Campus demonstrates what can happen when communities are empowered to solve local problems. At the end of the day, the test for this legislation is simple. Will it create more opportunities for regional Australians? Will it strengthen pathways into nursing, teaching, allied health and other professions our community desperately needs? Will it help more students study closer to home? Will it help communities—like Taree, Gloucester, Wingham and Forster—build the workforce they need for the future? If it does, then it will be a worthwhile reform, but if it simply creates more bureaucracy and more centralised control, then it will have missed the point. Regional Australians do not need more bureaucracy. They need more opportunity. They need governments to believe in their capability. The Taree Universities Campus has shown what is possible when local communities are trusted, supported and empowered. That should be the lesson that guides this parliament as we consider this legislation.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>28</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Cook, Trish MP</name>
                <name.id>312871</name.id>
                <electorate>Bullwinkel</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="312871" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr TRISH COOK</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bullwinkel</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:53</span>):  I rise today to speak in strong support of the Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026. The title of this bill is not just a piece of legislative phrasing. It is a profound statement of intent. It is a promise to the young people in our outer suburbs, to the families in our regional towns and to every single Australian who has ever looked at a university campus or a TAFE facility and wondered, 'Is that a place for me?' For too long, for too many Australians, the answer to that question has been determined not by their talent, not by their drive and not by their work ethic, but by their postcode, by how much their parents earn and by how far they live from a capital city. With this bill, the Albanese Labor government is drawing a line in the sand. We are opening those doors wide. We are reshaping the landscape of Australian higher education—not just for the next parliamentary term or for the next decade, but for the decade after that.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This landmark legislation did not appear out of thin air. It is a culmination of rigorous, systemic and deeply consultative work.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In February 2024, our government released the final report of the Australian Universities Accord. It was, and remains, a generational blueprint. The accord laid bare a stark reality about the future of our national economy. It told us that, over the next few decades, the nature of work in this country would be shifting rapidly. The jobs of tomorrow—in clean energy, in advanced manufacturing, in health care, in education and in tech—will require higher skills.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">To meet that challenge, the accord set a clear, ambitious national target: we need to increase the total number of people in our workforce with a tertiary qualification—whether that is a certificate, a diploma or a university degree—to approximately 80 per cent. That's quite a number. Eighty per cent of our workforce will need to be skilled and tertiary trained. This means that we'll need more people at TAFE and at university, and we cannot possibly hit the target if we continue to leave brilliant minds on the sidelines just because of structural inequities in our current funding model. We need to take action right now to set our tertiary education system up to deliver on Australia's future skill needs. And this is exactly what this bill does.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Under the Albanese Labor government, we don't just commission reports and let them sit on the shelf; we're delivering on them. I'm incredibly proud to stand here today and note that our government has already implemented more than 30 of the accord's 47 recommendations, either in full or in part. We are transforming higher education right now, block by block.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Let's look at what we've already achieved. We've made HECS fairer and better. We didn't just tweak the system; we cut 20 per cent off HECS debt for millions of Australians. We capped indexation to the lower level, which is the CPI and the wage price index. We shifted to a fairer marginal repayment system, and we raised the minimum payment threshold. We are wiping away the anxiety of compounding debt for young workers.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We introduced paid prac for the very first time. For decades, student teachers, nurses, midwives—like me—and social workers were expected to work full time for weeks on placement for free, whilst studying, whilst managing kids and whilst maintaining their part-time jobs. Basically, they were forced into placement poverty. We've stepped in to provide financial support so they can complete their degrees, with support, and get into the workforce.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We've doubled the number of university study hubs. We've established 20 new regional university study hubs and 14 suburban university study hubs, bringing higher education directly into the communities—including the ones in Northam and York in my electorate of Bullwinkel—that need them the most.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We've increased free university bridging courses, ensuring that students who didn't get the traditional ATAR score still have a clear, fully supported pathway into higher education. We've established the National Student Ombudsman and a national code to prevent and respond to gender based violence, ensuring safety, accountability and respect on our campuses. We've also made demand driven, Commonwealth supported places available to all First Nations students who qualify for the course, removing arbitrary caps on Indigenous opportunity.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Every one of these actions is about equity. And today, with this bill, we take the next monumental step. We're tackling the core funding architecture of the university sector itself.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian Universities Accord explicitly recommended adopting an entirely new funding model for higher education, one that is carefully planned, transparently managed and intensely focused on student success. This bill enacts that exact commitment, injecting an additional $3.6 billion into Australia's higher education system over the next 10 years.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">At the heart of this reform is the formal establishment and empowerment of the a ATEC, the Australian Tertiary Education Commission. ATEC will serve as an independent expert steward of our tertiary education system. Rather than universities operating in silos, ATEC will manage funding through mission based compacts, ensuring that federal funding is perfectly aligned with actual student enrolments and real-world national skills shortages.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill establishes two revolutionary funding mechanisms: a managed growth funding system and a needs based funding. The new managed growth funding system will effectively uncap the number of places for students from low-socioeconomic backgrounds and regional areas, and, as a member of a seat with a regional area, I'm particularly happy with that. It sweeps away the old rigid caps that starved universities of the resources that they needed to expand. Our changes are expected to result in an extra 230,000 commencing domestic students at university over the next decade. Think of the family, the lives and the communities that will be permanently transformed by these 230,000 opportunities. Getting a student through the door of a university is only half the battle, and the accord was very clear that an increase in underrepresented students must be matched by an absolute focus on their success. It's not enough to enrol them. We have to support them to graduate. That is where demand driven, needs based funding comes into it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Members in this chamber will be very familiar with the concept of the Gonski funding for our high schools and schools. The idea of that is that funding should follow equity, providing extra resources to schools that take on students with greater needs. This bill brings the Gonski philosophy to higher education. The more students a university has who come from economically disadvantaged backgrounds or from First Nations communities or who study at regional campuses, the more funding that university will receive to help those students participate and succeed. Direct financial assistance, like emergency grants and equity scholarships, are provided as well so that a broken laptop or an unexpected bill doesn't force a student to drop out. By offsetting the significantly higher operational costs of running regional and remote campuses, it will ensure that students in the regions get the same quality of infrastructure that those in the major cities get. This is a structural shift from a system that simply funds places to a system that funds people.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Alongside these monumental funding reforms, this bill also introduces critical measures to ensure the integrity, safety and long-term sustainability of the sector. The bill sets out a clear, robust framework for ATEC to exercise its existing function to allow international student places, specifically in scenarios where the Minister for Education makes an international allocation pool determination. This ensures our international education sector remains world class, sustainably managed and aligned with our national infrastructure and housing capacities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Furthermore, the bill makes small but vital technical amendments to modernise information sharing between the Commonwealth Ombudsman, the Tertiary Education Quality and Standards Agency and ATEC. By cutting the red tape and allowing these regulatory bodies to securely share data, we ensure that student complaints, safety issues and systemic risks are identified and acted upon swiftly. It creates a seamless net of safety and quality assurance across the entire tertiary landscape.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As I conclude, I want to bring this back to what the bill really represents at its core. When we look back at the history of this country, the great leaps forward have always occurred under a Labor government opening up the doors of education. It was true when Whitlam abolished fees, it was true when Hawke and Keating expanded the system and it's true today under the Albanese Labor government. This bill recognises that our greatest national resource isn't what's buried in the ground; it's in the minds and the potential of our people. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When we give a young person from a regional town or an outer suburban community like Bullwinkel the opportunity to go to university, we aren't just helping them. We are training the nurse who will look after us baby boomers in hospital in the very near future. We're educating the teacher who will inspire the next generation in the classrooms of the schools that come to visit us in this place. We are equipping the engineer who will design a new renewable energy grid. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026 is a visionary, fully funded, structurally sound package that sets Australia up for a prosperous, fair future. It says to every single Australian: no matter who you are or where you come from, your potential is our nation's potential. As a recent graduate of university, I'm particularly thrilled that our universities are going to get the support they need to expand and continue to deliver on the great education that they provide their students. I commend this bill to the House. </span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>30</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Le, Dai MP</name>
                <name.id>295676</name.id>
                <electorate>Fowler</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fowler</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:06</span>):  When I was in a refugee camp, as our family was being processed, my mum—my late mother—applied to be resettled. She came up to me, a young girl, and she said, 'I have applied to be resettled in a country called uc dai loi—Australia. It is an island.' She said, 'The reason why I'm picking it is because I heard it has the best education system in the world.' This was late in '79. My sisters and I arrived here with very little English—hardly any English. Of course, I had my primary education cut short because of being in refugee camps, so I started primary school in year 5 and that's where I started to learn English. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill is called 'opening the doors of opportunity', and I think if there's any community in this country that knows what it feels like to have doors closed on them it is the community of Fowler. In my electorate, seven in 10 people speak a language other than English at home. The median personal income—I often share this in the House—is around $520 a week. Our families work hard. Many run small family businesses, and they hold onto one belief above almost everything else: they believe that education will open doors for their children that were closed to them. When the government puts the words 'opening the doors of opportunity' on the front of the bill, of course I will pay attention, and I have no doubt my community will also. This is because we've heard amazing headlines before in this House—my job is to ask whether the substance matches the slogan. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Before I do that, I want to acknowledge the Minister for Education. The minister and I do not agree on everything; however, I have never doubted his passion for education and I have never doubted where that passion comes from. We hear it every time he stands in this House. How proud he is that he grew up in Cabramatta, in the heart of my electorate. He went to Cabramatta Public School and Canley Vale High School, where he was dux. He was the first in the family to finish school and the first to go to university. His mum and his dad still live in Cabramatta, and they are my constituents. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The minister knows exactly what a closed door looks like for a young person from south-west Sydney, because I'm sure he's sat in classrooms full of many kids who probably came from similar backgrounds to mine—coming into primary education halfway through, not getting the full education that he probably would have had. I will hold this bill to the standard of the minister's own story. If a boy from Canley Vale High School can become the Minister for Education, then the test of this bill is simple: will it make the journey more likely for the next generation in Cabramatta, Fairfield, Liverpool or Bonnyrigg, or will his story remain the exception that proves the rule?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Let me explain why this matters so much in Fowler. Our young people are often left behind not because they lack talent or ambition but because of distance, language and socioeconomic disadvantage. Opportunity in this country still depends far too much on your postcode. For our students, a train fare, a textbook or simply knowing which subjects to study and which careers to do is the difference between a door opening and a door staying shut. That is why, last month, I held the Fowler Future Fest at the Fairfield showground. More than a thousand year 12 students came through the showground. They met employers, trades, small businesses and universities. I thank the Fairfield City Council—they helped host that amazing day for thousands of high-school students who have never had exposure to a career day being held in their backyard and having council being part of that—as well as all the many small businesses and not-for-profits who took part in the day. I also thank Western Sydney University for being part of the day. Student after student came to me and said how great it was to have a careers expo there. For the first time, many of them could see what subjects they needed to study and what degrees they could take up. They did not need a marketing campaign; they needed a door and someone willing to open it. That is the lens I bring to this bill.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge what the bill does. It establishes a managed growth funding system designed to provide demand-driven, Commonwealth supported places for students from disadvantaged backgrounds and from regional and remote Australia. It introduces needs based funding for higher education similar in concept to the Gonski funding in schools, so that universities enrolling more students from low-income families, regional communities and Indigenous backgrounds receive additional resources to support them. For a community like mine, that matters. It should mean that a young person from Fowler who gets the marks for nursing, engineering or teaching does not miss out on a funded place because of where they live or how much their parents earn.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I will claim this modestly but clearly as a small win for the young people of Fowler. Over two terms, I have stood in this chamber and argued that students from south-west Sydney cannot just be an afterthought. I fought for addressing the inequities within our secondary education system. I've spoken on HECS indexation, the Job-ready Graduates Package and the accord reforms. Some of what the crossbench and I have been fighting for is reflected in this bill; I acknowledge that. But a door is not open just because the sign on it says so. I must ask the government: honestly, is this bill real reform or mere media signage? 'Opening the doors of opportunity' is a wonderful headline; it will look very good on a pamphlet when election time comes. My community deserves to know whether the substance behind it is just as good.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Here is where my doubts lie. First, ministerial discretion. The minister will set the total allocation pool and will have significant influence over how funding envelopes are set and adjusted. Students in Fowler cannot plan their futures on shifting political winds. If this funding is real, then legislate clear principles and reporting requirements so that no future governments can quietly tighten the pool or steer funding away from the communities that need it most.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Second, the risk that needs based funding becomes a label rather than real change. The indicators of disadvantage must be robust enough to capture students in south-western and Western Sydney, not just regional and remote Australia. Universities must be held to account for spending this money on tutoring, mentoring and support for disadvantaged students, not on filling general budget holes. There must be ongoing evaluation of whether completion rates for these students improve. We have seen in other sectors that needs based funding on paper does not always mean equitable in practice.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Third, this bill leaves untouched the very policies that are closing doors right now. It does not reverse the distortions of the Job-ready Graduates Package, which I have called on the government to do. It does not fix the unfairness of HECS indexation, including the sensible change to the time of indexation proposed by the member for Kooyong. Debts are still jumping faster than graduates can pay. You cannot open the front door with one hand while holding the back door shut with the other.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Let me also remind the government that, if you truly want to open doors of opportunity for young people in Fowler and across south-west Sydney, then please also invest in apprenticeships and invest in alternative pathways for those whose future is not a university degree. Together, with a change of the dates on indexation, reverse the job-ready graduates scheme. That is what opening opportunity actually looks like.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I will support this bill, but I will do so with caution. It is a small win for my community and a meaningful one, but I put to the government that there are things that still need to be done. This cannot be where we stop. It cannot become an election brochure while the hard work is left undone. I will keep standing in this place for the young people of Fowler—the students studying at the kitchen table after a long shift and the first-in-the-family kid who walked through Fowler Future Fest and saw, for the first time, that a degree could be for them. The Minister for Education was once one of those kids. He knows better than anyone in this House what is at stake. I ask him to make sure that this bill lives up to its name. Our young people do not need another slogan. They need the door open.</span>
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                <page.no>31</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Briskey, Jo MP</name>
                <name.id>263427</name.id>
                <electorate>Maribyrnong</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BRISKEY</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Maribyrnong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:16</span>):  In a first-year uni lecture in February, every seat is taken, and there are people sitting on the steps. Go back to the same subject at the end of the year, and there are some gaps. Some of those gaps are because people have changed their minds, and that's okay, but some of them are people who could not make it work. The gaps are not spread evenly. If you grew up in a house where money was tight or a long way from campus, you're up to twice as likely to be one of those gaps. Nobody has ever left university because they stopped being clever. They leave because the textbooks came to $400 in March and then rent went up in April. They leave because the unpaid prac placement is three months. They leave because they picked up an extra shift and then another one, and, by week 9, they were far too behind to catch up and too embarrassed to say so. Governments of all persuasions have spent a great deal of time in this place talking about who gets through the front door of our universities, but very few have spent the time on what happens in week 4. With the Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026, our government is doing both.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Close to half of all of Australians in their 30s now hold a university degree. That is genuinely a remarkable number. Inside one lifetime, it has gone from something a few families did to something a whole generation grew up expecting, but it is about half that if you grew up in a poor family or in the regions and less again in the bush. A young person from a family without much money is less likely to get a crack at university in the first place, and then, if they do get there, they are less likely to finish. That is about not ability but opportunity. It is about who gets the chance to use what they've got. Every one of them is something this country loses, and we never find out what we've lost.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My community is about a maximum of 20 minutes away from some of our country's top universities. If you get on the 59 tram at Airport West on a weekday morning, you are sitting among people who are going to work and people who are going to lectures—and a fair few of them doing both. Distance is not the problem; the money is. There are families in Tullamarine and Avondale Heights where the question at the kitchen table is not whether a kid could get to university; it is whether the family can carry three years of textbooks, transport and rent while that kid earns less than what they could do in a full-time job. That conversation happens every summer between the ATAR results coming out and preferences closing. More often, it is the kid who calls it off, because they can see what it is costing the home and their family, and they decide not to be an additional burden.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Last year, Victoria's first suburban university study hub opened at Broadmeadows, which is just up the road from my electorate. This study hub is part of our government's network of study hubs. There are 20 new regional ones and 14 in the outer suburbs. The evidence is clear that, where you put one up, participation goes up. That tells us something quite plain about what has been holding people back. It was never the talent; it was the practicalities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Since coming to office, our government have been working on the principle that the doors of opportunity should be open to all, and it is worth going through how we have sought to achieve this, because this bill is an element and a continuation of it. Starting in the early years, our three-day guarantee helps open that first door of educational opportunity. We changed the law to the access of three days a week of early education to ensure that it is guaranteed for everyone, because the old activity test locked out precisely the children who benefit the most. Before I came to this place, I worked with early childhood educators. I can tell the House what they had been saying for over a decade to the coalition government, but they just simply refused to listen.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Then we have the extra $20 billion into our public schools over the next decade—the schools that do the heavy lifting and who teach the children most likely to start behind. Every dollar of it is tied to reform—phonics checks, numeracy checks, small-group tutoring, catching kids up, keeping them up and getting them to the end of year 12. Then a young person who walks out of public school in Ascot Vale at 18 with the marks and the motivation to walk through the next door of higher education—until now, we have left that door with a latch. This bill is what seeks to lift that latch, to address a gap that did not open on its own but was widened deliberately by those opposite.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the middle of the pandemic, when nearly every other major employer in the country was thrown a line, those opposite wrote the rules so universities were locked out of JobKeeper, and tens of thousands of people lost their jobs. They capped the funding. They let equity programs wither. They churned through minister after minister with no plan for any of it, and they made an arts degree cost more than a medical one. There is only one reason a government does this, and it is to talk young people out of aspiring to higher education. They had the better part of a decade to build the skill base this country was always going to need, and they spent it treating one of our greatest national assets as a cost to cut and a culture war to fight. We are not tinkering with a system that's not working; we are rebuilding one that was run down by those opposite. That is why this is the seventh accord bill not the second.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The accord itself is the biggest look at our higher education since Bradley nearly 20 years ago, with 47 recommendations. This government has now implemented more than 30 of them either in full or in part. We cut student debt for 3.2 million Australians by 20 per cent, and more than $16 billion has been wiped off. In my electorate, that was over 27,000 people who woke up one morning owing less on their student debt than they did the night before. We capped indexation at the lower of CPI and wages so the debt can never again grow faster than what people earn. We moved to a marginal repayment system and lifted the minimum threshold so somebody repays what they can actually afford instead of a number set in another decade. We brought in paid prac for the first time for teaching nursing and midwifery and social work students, and we're expanding that—another clear example where the talent was never the reason preventing people studying these essential degrees. It was the unpaid work they couldn't afford while rent was due at the end of a degree, where walking away costs the most. We made university-ready bridging courses free. We set up the National Student Ombudsman and the national code to prevent and respond to gender based violence so the young a young woman's degree does not end because of what somebody did to her on campus. We made Commonwealth supported places demand driven for every First Nations student who gets the marks, and we established the Australian Tertiary Education Commission so somebody is finally stewarding the whole system rather than each piece of it in isolation. That was the first six bills. This one changes who gets in and who gets to stay.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The first half of this bill is the managed growth funding system. The minister sets a total allocation pool—the number of fully funded places available each year. The commission allocates them, and each university allocation is built from two parts: a core student load so nobody goes backwards and a growth allocation on top of it. The growth allocation is where the commission can direct places to students from low-socioeconomic backgrounds, from the regions and from the bush. If the commission judges that the pool is not big enough to meet demand from those students, it can go back to the minister and ask for it to be lifted.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I know there are people in this place who have decided to call this 'capping'. I would say to them: look at the mechanism. This isn't a cap; it's a floor, with the ceiling taken off for the students who have been missing. We have already done exactly this for First Nations students. We legislated in 2023 and we have the results that show it works. There will be 16,000 additional places next year and the year after that and the year after that. From 2030, it rises to 19,000 a year. Over the decade, we expect to fund an additional 230,000 commencing students, backed by $3.6 billion.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill also cleans up the mess underneath. Right now, in the scramble of enrolment, some universities are taking on students that receive no Commonwealth funding at all. The accord was blunt about what that is doing to the system. Around 20,000 additional places are expected to go to those over-enrolled universities next year. Under-enrolled universities get a temporary funding floor to the end of 2031 so the transition does not cost anybody their staff.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The second half is needs based funding, and it is the same idea that we've already accepted in our schools—a student who starts further back needs more support to get to the same place. A campus in the regions costs more to run. Nobody in this chamber argues about that when it comes to a primary school. The money goes to the unglamorous things that actually keep a struggling student enrolled—the tutoring, the mentoring, the academic support, the scholarship or emergency grant that covers the textbooks or the transport fare. There are programs that have tried to do this before but they were capped. Last year, that came out to be as little as $600 a student. This bill sets a base equity amount of $1,535 and a base regional amount of $1,398, both indexed every year so they do not go backwards—more than double—and it is demand-driven. The more students a university enrols who need the help, the more help they get, which means a university can no longer be rewarded for recruiting a cohort and then losing them.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill does one more thing. It puts the allocation of international student places for individual providers in the hands of an independent commission, where the minister sets an overall pool. There is no statutory cap on international students today, and this bill does not create one. What it does is take a decision that currently sits with the government and hands it to an independent body, which is what the universities themselves have asked for.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">About 60 per cent of students in Commonwealth-supported places across this country are women. Of the students this needs based funding is built to reach, two in three are women. We talk a great deal in this place about the gender pay gap and too often we talk about it as though it's a question of confidence or negotiation or a choice an individual woman makes. It's not. Our government knows it is structural and it is set early in the years before a woman ever gets a chance to sit down to have a conversation about salary. The most reliable thing we can do about what a woman earns across the whole of her working life is to open the door to a qualification and make sure she can afford to stay until she has it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There is a hard-headed argument here too. The court said that by 2050 we'll need about 80 per cent of the workforce holding a certificate, diploma or degree. That is what it will take to staff our hospitals, to build more houses, to run the clean energy economy we're building right now and to do the jobs that don't even exist yet. Every one of those workers is a person who has to get a qualification first. Every student we lose in second year is a nurse we're short of in 2040, and we pay for that shortage one way or another. But we do not get to this 80 per cent by sticking to the status quo and simply hoping.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill does not reach back. It does nothing for the people who left after the first year and never went back, or the ones who looked at the whole thing at age 17 and decided it was not for them. There are a lot of them. Some of them are my constituents. They do not get those years back. Here is what this bill does: it means a kid from my community whose single mum is working two jobs just to stay afloat gets a funded place because her ATAR is great and not because there happened to be room left after everyone else had been sorted. It means the first person in a family to go to uni has somebody to ring in week 4 of the first semester when it has all gotten away from them and they are one decision away from not coming back. It means the hundreds of dollars for textbooks in March is not the reason somebody quits in April.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is not the last bill our government will seek to deliver on education. There is a great deal more work to do to make sure that our country's system is as fair as it should be, from the earliest years all the way through. But it is a next step, and it is a big one. Nobody has ever left university because they stopped being clever. They leave because we let them. This bill is us making it easier for them to stay. This bill is our government opening another door of opportunity for working families in Maribyrnong and right across the country. I commend the bill to the House.</span>
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                <page.no>34</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Ryan, Monique MP</name>
                <name.id>297660</name.id>
                <electorate>Kooyong</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="297660" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr RYAN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kooyong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:30</span>):  Before I was elected, I was fortunate to spend part of my career in the university sector, where I saw firsthand the public good that universities deliver not only through educating the next generation of Australians but through research, innovation and engagement with the communities that they serve. A former MP for Kooyong, Sir Robert Menzies, when he was almost quadrupling university funding in 1957, said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">… universities are to be regarded not as a home of privilege for a few, but as something essential to the lives of millions of people who may never enter their doors.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">He believed education improved Australia's wellbeing and its living standards and that universities were a nation-building project.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The people of Kooyong still believe passionately in the importance of universities. In the last four years I've spoken with many university leaders, researchers, lecturers, students and parents about the state of our education system. It is clear to them and to me that our higher education sector is under significant pressure. In fact, it's under threat. Students are graduating with unprecedented debt. Some face lifelong debt resulting from their tertiary studies. Many tell me that they didn't understand what they were signing up for when they took on HECS. Researchers face chronic underfunding and increasing career uncertainty with unreliable grant schedules and dwindling success rates. Academic staff are expected to teach larger and larger classes with fewer and fewer resources. Universities are increasingly reliant on international student revenue to cross-subsidise teaching and research. But, at the same time, employers are reporting shortages of doctors, nurses, engineers, teachers and other skilled professionals. At the same time, politicians are dog whistling about the impact of international students on our society, ignoring the fact that they have been responsible for as much as half of our economic growth in recent years.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The universities accord final report recognised that Australia's prosperity depends on a stronger, more accessible, better supported higher education sector. The accord carried an ambitious vision, recommending that by 2050 Australia should increase tertiary attainment to at least 80 per cent of the working age population. It recommended growing the number of Australians aged 25 to 34 with a university qualification from 45 per cent to 55 per cent, and it recommended doubling Australian Commonwealth supported students to 1.8 million. While they are very ambitious, these targets reflect the scale of the workforce challenges facing Australia, challenges in key sectors in a rapidly changing global economy.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026 represents a significant legislative response to the accord's final report. The government claims that this legislation will enable the creation of up to 230 additional student places over the next decade, with a particular focus on expanding opportunities for students from disadvantaged backgrounds and regional and rural communities. Widening Australia's higher education participation is absolutely crucial, but, if this government is serious about opening the doors of opportunity, it must ensure that this bill genuinely expands opportunity rather than imposing unintentional restrictions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the central reforms in this bill is the move to a managed growth funding model. Currently, Commonwealth funding for student places is allocated through the maximum basic grant amount. In 2026, $7.75 billion was allocated for student places. Under this model, the total number of Commonwealth supported places, or CSPs, across Australia has not always been clear, and this bill does change that approach. Instead of allocating a dollar amount, the minister will determine a total allocation pool of Commonwealth supported places. In 2027, it's supported that the total allocation pool will deliver about 625,000 CSPs.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are benefits to providing greater visibility about the size of our education system. Universities need certainty on the number of places available so they can plan workforce infrastructure and course delivery. The minister has announced that the government will grow the total allocation pool by an additional 16,000 places in each of the next three years. All of this sounds fine. However, there is no obligation for the Minister for Education to grow the size of the system. In fact, under this bill, the pool could actually shrink below the existing core student load. It's an unintended consequence of the legislation. It leaves the door open for future ministers who are less well disposed to the sector to unilaterally cut student numbers. Given the well and often stated hostility to the university sector by the Liberal Party, the National Party and One Nation, this issue needs to be fixed. At this point, the total allocated pool is a ceiling with no floor. The bill should establish that the minimum total allocation pool must equal the existing core student load of table A universities. Without this, universities will have no guarantee that the system will in fact grow under this and future governments. This issue is to be addressed by the member for Curtin in her amendments later in this debate, and I support her proposal.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Once the minister has set the total allocation pool, the Australian Tertiary Education Commission, or ATEC, will then allocate places between universities. This means that, from 2027, universities will receive an allocation of student places rather than a funding amount. The change will improve transparency, but, at the same time, it will reduce the flexibilities that universities have traditionally had to adapt to changes in student demand. For years, universities have operated under a soft cap with the ability to overenroll students. This has given them the ability to create additional places when demand has exceeded supply of CSPs. In many cases, those additional students did not pose a financial impost, because universities could retain the student contributions for those over-enrolees. Under this bill, however, universities will have limited capacity to exceed their allocation. Overenrolments will be capped at either five per cent above the original allocation or 750 places, whichever is lower. If the universities exceed this threshold, they will lose student contribution revenue for those additional students.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Documents released under FOI showed that, in 2024, nine Australian universities delivered student places worth five per cent or more above their maximum funding. There is no clarity or transparency on how many universities are in that position now. The minister has argued that this change will end a Hunger Games system in which popular universities attract more students than others, but there's a definite risk that the opposite occurs—that students lose opportunities because universities become overly cautious about making offers, wary of the potential financial penalties, even where those universities do have the potential capacity to support those students. At the very minimum, this legislation should ensure that a student who has already begun a Commonwealth supported place can't lose that status. The government has to provide this express guarantee. For example, it could do that in section 30-30 of the bill. The government should also provide in section 30-20 that the ATEC must allocate each tertiary provider a domestic student profile that is not less than the provider's core student load. These safeguards are the bare minimum, and I again commend the member for Curtin's amendments, which will deliver some of these changes.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There is a trade-off inherent to these reforms. This bill will facilitate increased CSP participation through the minister growing the total pool allocation, but, at the same time, the bill introduces new restrictions on the ability of individual universities to respond to increased demand through the imposition of hard caps on the domestic student profile. In that sense, the reforms in this bill are internally contradictory. Total allocation pool enrolments will increase overall by 230,000 over the next 10 years and will increase in a managed way—but possibly by less than the growth that would have occurred in a system with more flexible arrangements, like our current system.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">University growth has occurred in unmanaged and unintended ways, which is why the accord recommended, and the government is introducing, a system of managed growth. But the bill fails to address one of the key reasons that universities have experienced unintended growth across certain disciplines: the Job-ready Graduates, or JRG, Package. The JRG Package was introduced in 2021 to steer students towards particular fields by restructuring student contribution amounts. Under JRG, by next year, students in the highest contribution band will pay more than $54,000 for a standard three-year bachelor's degree and over $90,000 for double degrees. At the same time, though, universities will continue to have to absorb an annual funding shortfall of $800 million, because JRG reduced Commonwealth contributions for degrees by more than it increased student contributions. Just remember: it's $54,000 for an undergraduate bachelor's degree.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Innovative Research Universities found that, in 2024 alone, the students in the highest-charging fields paid up to $1.3 billion more than they would have if JRG hadn't existed. Recommendation 16a of the <span style="font-style:italic;">Australian Universities Accord final report</span> called for student contribution rates in the highest-charging fields under JRG to be urgently remediated. In February this year, the minister recognised that JRG has failed, and yet section 33-7 of this bill entrenches existing Job-ready Graduates funding clusters.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Managed growth is an important reform to meet Australia's educational attainment goals, but we can't promote those while imposing punitive debts on students and while undermining the sustainability of university teaching. Those aspects of growing the universities sector are at odds with each other. Managed growth might widen and might even open the door to opportunity, but this bill leaves in place a very nasty surprise waiting on the other side of that door. I ask the minister to explain to the House why, having redesigned almost every other part of the higher education landscape, the government has chosen to leave its most widely criticised—even internally criticised—element in place.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">On current advice, the ATEC is developing a new higher education costing and pricing framework, with advice expected in the second half of 2027. The summary of progress to date on that work revealed that the forum was not intended to revisit the Job-ready Graduates Package, but rather to focus on understanding costs. So, three years after the accord called for urgent remediation of Job-ready Graduates, we'll receive a report that doesn't even consider the fact that arts and law and finance students are paying more than $18,000 a year, and that they've been doing that for far longer under the Albanese government than they did under Scott Morrison.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">On the current trajectory, it will take at least eight years and two parliamentary terms to begin to reverse JRG. It will take at least eight years after Labor first labelled this scheme 'highly inequitable' and 'dubious' for them to even approach it. Without an explicit direction to bring that work forward, students will commence and continue to study in 2027 and 2028 under a contribution schedule that every review to date, including the government's own, has found to be broken.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government legislated the universities accord act earlier this year. It drafted that act with ministerial powers. I want the minister to use the powers that he gave himself, and so I call on him to, firstly, immediately advise the ATEC that reviewing the funding arrangements introduced under the Job-ready Graduates Package is a short-term, urgent and strategic priority under section 15 of the act; and, secondly, immediately issue written directions by legislative instrument under section 71 of the act requiring the ATEC commissioners, in carrying out the commission's functions, to prioritise providing advice and recommendations to the minister on options for reforming the funding arrangements introduced under the Job-ready Graduates Package.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill does do important things to open the doors of opportunity. It legislates needs based funding for disadvantaged First Nations and regional students. It's a meaningful acknowledgement that a university place in this country means something very different depending on where you grew up and your family's financial circumstances, and this bill sets Australia on a path towards the attainment targets that the accord identified as essential to our national prosperity. But the doors that prospective students walk through will not be defined by opportunity while the Job-ready Graduates scheme remains in place. In recognising that, I move:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">"whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) notes that: </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) next year, university students will be paying over $54,000 for standard bachelor's degrees; and</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) this bill fails to address the unfair and punitive funding arrangements introduced under the Job-ready Graduates Package; </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) calls on the Government to exercise powers under the <span style="font-style:italic;">Universities Accord (Australian Tertiary Education Commission) Act 2026</span> (Cth) to:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) immediately advise the Australian Tertiary Education Commission (ATEC) that reviewing the funding arrangements introduced under the Job-ready Graduates Package is a short-term, urgent strategic priority; and</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) immediately issue written directions, by legislative instrument, requiring the ATEC Commissioners, in carrying out the Commission's functions, to prioritise providing advice and recommendations to the Minister on options for reforming the funding arrangements introduced under the Job-ready Graduates Package".</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="295588" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Dr Garland</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Are the amendments seconded?</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Chaney:</span>
                    </a>  Yes. I second the amendments and reserve my right to speak.</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Garland, Carina MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
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                <name role="metadata">Clutterham, Claire MP</name>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CLUTTERHAM</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Sturt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:45</span>):  I rise today to speak in support of the Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026. There can be no argument that giving more Australians the chance to go to university and succeed is essential to meeting the nation's future skills and economic needs. Backgrounds, postcodes and bank balances cannot stand in the way of more Australians going to university to attain a higher education degree, to allow them to participate in the critical nation building endeavours our country needs to embark on, to ensure a secure, sustainable and prosperous future, to allow us to compete in an increasingly competitive global marketplace, to enable us to innovate and enjoy the benefits of targeted research and development and to ensure that our national security is properly prosecuted. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia needs more university educated workers, not fewer. More opportunity is good for students, good for their families, good for communities, good for the economy and good for our country. The Australian Universities Accord made it clear that, if Australia is to prosper in the years ahead, we must grow Australia's participation, performance and investment in tertiary education so we can generate the knowledge, skills and research our nation needs. The final report recommended that the tertiary attainment rate of all working age people with at least one certificate III qualification or higher be lifted from 60 per cent currently to at least 80 per cent by 2050. It also recommended increasing the proportion of university educated Australians aged 25 to 34 from 45 per cent currently to 55 per cent by 2050. In making these recommendations, the final report noted that the tertiary system will need to more than double the number of Commonwealth supported students in universities from 860,000 currently to 1.8 million by 2050. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As well as increasing the number of skilled workers in our country ready to contribute to our economy and our communities, higher education provides many other essential benefits to Australian society. By encouraging intellectual endeavour, creativity and personal accomplishment, universities also promote democracy, critical thinking, debate, the embrace of different perspectives and the fostering of civic values. A university degree can also lead to expanded professional and personal networks, more defined career goals and, of course, employment. Further, the world faces a host of challenges ranging from economic inequality to climate change and geopolitical conflict to ongoing wars, and universities and graduates play a key role in helping to address some of these challenges. Given these benefits, creating accessible educational opportunities for students of all postcodes, backgrounds and bank balances to develop responsive skills is critical for a vibrant future workforce, for responding to challenges through innovation and for ensuring our communities are resilient. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Universities also encourage critical thinking and the consideration of different perspectives. You might not agree with a particular perspective that is being put, but you must consider it. You may dismiss it, but you've heard it and you've thought about why you might be dismissing it. You don't just accept it. You evaluate it, check it, challenge it and develop your own independent view on it. And you're actively encouraged to do this. You know that, if you don't, you might have missed something or you might be misinformed or disinformed. And we know that misinformation and disinformation, either deliberate or by virtue of laziness, are one of the biggest dangers facing our country, because they draw on inaccurate or incomplete information, depriving the information consumer of the facts and distorting the decisions that the consumer of the information might then make.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">People who have been taught to think critically, to assess and challenge information, to not simply agree with the first thing that is said to them and to not simply accept the contentions of those who shout the loudest are better placed. The overarching negative effect of misinformation is that, without an accurately informed public, democracy cannot function. Again, you might not agree with the information, but if it is accurate—based on facts, data and evidence—you can at least make your next decision and make your choice with the comfort of knowing that you had the relevant information you needed.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We know that misinformation and disinformation create division. They create polarisation. And sometimes misinformation or disinformation based on rumour, gossip or a malicious agenda can have devastating consequences: disengagement with democratic processes, hostility to political figures, and violence. Disinformation has a competitive advantage over accurate information in the attention economy, because it is not constrained by the truth. The effort required is minimal, and the digitisation of media and the explosion of social media has also enabled producers of misinformation and disinformation to access sophisticated and extremely convincing tools of digital forgery, such as deepfakes, the digital alteration of an image or video that convincingly replaces the voice, face or body of one individual with that of another. That's not just a tech problem or a communications issue. It's a crisis of trust.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Tackling this means protecting communities from harm while upholding freedom of expression and other human rights. Freedom of expression and other human rights need to be protected at the same time as countering disinformation because of its capacity to unravel the threads that hold societies together. In settings with increased instability it can tip societies into violence. It can also corrode the norms of debate and science-backed evidence that societies have typically taken for granted. Countering this is difficult, because the monumental challenge facing us is structural. The information ecosystem simply was not designed with truth or safety as its key features. It was designed for engagement, which comes in many forms, including hate.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Well-developed critical thinking skills by virtue of a university degree can play a key role in countering these challenges, because these skills allow one to assess the strength and appropriateness of the information being presented through questioning, examining and evaluating different positions. These skills are not just useful with respect to misinformation and disinformation. Questioning, challenging and evaluating have a place in every profession. It was my full-time job, in my pre-politics career as a lawyer. Doctors, nurses and engineers do it all day. Goodness knows, teachers do it all day, as well as mechanics, plumbers, electricians and business owners. The ability to challenge, evaluate, question and go beyond the algorithm is fundamental to the success of our economy, our community and our liberal democracy. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Universities that produce graduates with a thirst for knowledge, a thirst for facts, a love of learning, a determination or arm themselves with the evidence they need to justify a decision they are working towards reduces the impact misinformation has on our democracy. I'm not saying that it is only those with a university degree who can counter misinformation because, with effort, we all can, but we know that universities arm students with the tools to do this, and the more people who are armed with a desire for facts and accuracy, the better.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill will see additional funding to the tune of $3.6 billion invested into the tertiary sector over the next decade to increase the number of students at university and to meet Australia's future skills needs. It does this through a new managed growth funding system and demand driven needs based funding to support students from underrepresented backgrounds to access and succeed at university. The estimated impact of these changes is that there will be an extra 230,000 domestic students commencing study over the next decade, getting those crucial critical thinking skills, developing the capacity to examine different perspectives and to reach an informed and evidence based view. This can only be a good thing for our democracy and our communities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor is the party of education. We know that education lifts people out of poverty and gives people an opportunity: an opportunity to contribute to their communities, to do something for their families and to do something for themselves. We know that opportunities like this should not be limited to those with means or those who live in metropolitan areas. Everyone should have this opportunity. To be pro-education is to be pro-business, pro-private-sector, pro-public-sector, pro-productivity and pro-economic-prosperity because, without an educated population, you don't have any of those things.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill, which opens the doors of educational opportunity to a more diverse range of people, is not the only step that the Albanese Labor government has taken to ensure education is accessible and affordable. I will never forget 3 November 2024 and being in the Norwood International High School in my electorate of Sturt when the Prime Minister announced that a re-elected Albanese Labor government would make HECS better and fairer by cutting 20 per cent off of HECS debts. We have delivered that.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is in addition to the indexation of HECS debts, moving to a marginal repayment system and raising the minimum repayment threshold. People should not be put in a position where they decide they will not go to university because it will be too hard to pay off the corresponding debt.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">People should not be put in a position where they decide not to study for teaching, nursing and midwifery degrees because they cannot afford to take time off to complete the practical component of their degree. Paid prac is a delivered Albanese Labor government policy of which I am particularly proud. I completed a Master of Teaching and Secondary Education about a decade ago as a mature-age student who was able to take a combination of unpaid and paid leave from my employment to complete the prac. The unpaid portion hit even though I was in my late 30s. Imagine being a young student in your early 20s living out of home and being asked to give up your income for weeks at a time so you can complete a degree in a critical industry. Paid prac is meaningful change and meaningful action to ensure that students who want to can enrol to study to become teachers, nurses and midwives—and now, significantly, additional allied health professions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill represents the seventh accord bill that the Minister for Education has introduced. There were 47 recommendations in the Australian universities accord, and, with the passage of this bill, the Albanese Labor government will have implemented 36 in full or in part. Prompt yet careful progress is being made as the Albanese Labor government seeks to shore up our tertiary education sector so that it's primed to deliver the skilled workforce Australia needs to advance its national security and economic prosperity and contribute to a Future Made in Australia. I commend the bill to the House.</span>
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                <page.no>38</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Chaney, Kate MP</name>
                <name.id>300006</name.id>
                <electorate>Curtin</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CHANEY</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Curtin</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:59</span>):  I rise to speak on the Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill. Higher education changes lives. Every Australian should have the opportunity to experience the life-transforming benefits of higher education. We'll only meet our future skills needs by expanding access for people who are currently underrepresented, including people from low-SES backgrounds, First Nations people and regional, rural and remote students. I support the intent of the Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026, which is to drive managed growth of our higher education system and expand the opportunities of higher education for all Australians. But I do hold some concerns about its implications for student choice and the autonomy and flexibility of the higher education system.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill does three things: it replaces our current funding model with a managed growth system; it legislates a new needs-based funding stream for equity and regional students; and it creates rules governing how international student places are allocated. On the first point, university funding currently runs through the Commonwealth Grants Scheme on what's called the maximum basic grant amount, a dollar ceiling that each university gets for domestic teaching. It's a soft cap. If a university enrols more students than the ceiling technically covers, it gets no extra Commonwealth funding for those students, but it keeps the student contribution anyway.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The accord found that this funding system was leading to unplanned, unmanaged and underfunded growth, with consequences for students and higher education providers alike. This bill responds to that by moving from a dollar ceiling to a hard headcount of student places set by the minister and distributed between universities by the new and independent Australian Tertiary Education Commission, or ATEC.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill also legislates needs-based funding, an ongoing top-up paid by the Commonwealth for every eligible equity student and regional student, reflecting the greater costs of delivering quality higher education for these students. The bill also gives the minister the power to determine the total number of international student places, with ATEC holding the job of allocating those places to providers.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I support the objective of this bill, which is to expand opportunity and access to higher education. The principle of managed growth is right. We want a better-educated workforce, more Australians at university and at TAFE, and a system that plans for that growth instead of stumbling into it. The Universities Accord tells us that by 2050 we'll need four in five working age Australians to hold a university degree or TAFE qualification. Today we sit at around half of that, and the gap won't close on its own.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I strongly support the introduction of the needs-based funding system to reach people who might not otherwise have the chance, but good intentions in the bill's name don't guarantee good outcomes in its operation, and I hold some concerns about this bill. These concerns are shared by a range of stakeholders who've provided submissions to the Senate inquiry.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My most significant concern is that this bill could constrain student choice. Right now, universities that enrol beyond their funding ceilings still keep the student contribution for those extra places, but this bill moves to a hard cap. If a university enrols more than five per cent above its allocation, it will get nothing for those students at all. The issue is that it's not that hard to exceed the cap. A stronger acceptance rate or better second-year retention could mean a university will be over the cap. Suddenly a university can't accept any more students because there's a hard cap on enrolments.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are some safeguards for this. A university can ask ATEC for more places and ATEC can ask the minister. But if that takes too long, students will wear the consequences. This doesn't even need to occur for it to have an implication for student choice. The rational response for a university facing just the risk of overshoot is to restrict offers because it's easier to top up an allocation later than to wear the consequences of breaching that cap. Several universities have told the committee that they've already begun withdrawing guaranteed ATAR pathways ahead of this bill, so students will pay the price for that caution by missing out on a place. I support a managed system stewarded by ATEC, but universities should offer a place to every student capable of succeeding where they have the capacity to teach them. Otherwise, this bill will have the perverse effect of restricting opportunity and access for students around the country. I look to the Senate committee and the government to ensure that there is enough flexibility in this system so that this doesn't happen.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There's also a question hanging over this bill as to whether a student could ever lose their Commonwealth supported place through the operation of this bill's new powers. There is some protection for a student's place in the Higher Education Support Act, but this bill could give the minister powers that could lead to students being kicked off Commonwealth supported places through no fault of their own. So I'll be moving an amendment to make it really clear that, once a student holds a Commonwealth supported place, that place cannot be taken away from the student through any power that this bill introduces. It would be unworkable and unfair for a student in their second year of university to be told that they will no longer receive Commonwealth funding for the rest of their course because of some bureaucratic decision about numbers made in Canberra.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The second area of concern I have relates to excess ministerial power and centralisation. This bill takes a significant amount of flexibility and autonomy away from universities. A great deal of decision-making power moves to ATEC, which is at least meant to be independent, but a great deal also moves to the minister. This government says it's committed to a thriving, growing higher education sector, but a command-and-control approach is not the way to secure that future. We should be encouraging universities to grow, to specialise and to compete with each other in ways that improve outcomes for students rather than centralising every lever in Canberra.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill would, for example, allow the minister to put specific conditions on individual universities before providing them with funding, with no clear guidelines or safeguards for what these conditions could entail. I've drafted an amendment to remove this excessive and overbearing power. It's the role of the independent ATEC to work with individual universities and higher education providers through mission based compacts. It's not for the minister to be able to make directions of their choosing, which could be politically motivated to specific universities as a funding condition.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge that I've had constructive conversations with the minister's office on this issue. The government is aware of this problem, and based on the discussions that have been had to date I'm optimistic that improvements will be made in the Senate. I'll also move an amendment requiring the minister to publish a statement of reasons for a series of important decisions: the total number of Commonwealth supported places, or the total allocation pool, and the total number of international students, which the minister decides each year and which has enormous consequences for the higher education sector and the economy.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My concern about the minister's powers is most significant when it comes to international students, where politics can so quickly override good policy. I've made this argument to this House before. When the government tried to give the minister the power to cap international enrolments by course and by university last term, I opposed those provisions. I've never doubted the need for better regulation of quality and integrity in the sector, but course-by-course, university-by-university ministerial control over an export industry worth tens of billions of dollars a year is overreach. I said then that if the government wanted sustainable growth in this sector it should go back to the accord and determine settings through the mission based compact process, not through a unilateral ministerial power.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill is an improvement in a number of ways. While the minister is given the power to determine the overall number of international students, it's up to the independent ATEC to allocate them between providers. This is better, but there's a catch. The minister also has a broad power to make provider-specific directions to ATEC with regard to international students. So, as far as I understand it, the minister of the day could tell ATEC that UWA must receive no international students. This is clearly not appropriate.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge again that I've had productive conversations with the minister's office on this issue. There may be some important instances where this power is necessary, but there is a risk that it could be used in a way that's overpoliticised. So I look to the committee and the government to ensure that this power has appropriate limitations and safeguards. I'll be moving amendments to prevent the minister from issuing provider-specific directions to ATEC with regard to international students to align the framework with the system for domestic students.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, I'd like to reflect some concerns from the university sector that the legislation contains some holes that undermine its ambition to grow the higher education sector. The minister told this House in his second reading speech that 230,000 additional Commonwealth supported places will be funded over the next decade. I don't doubt that that's this government's intent, but intent isn't legislation. Actually, this bill doesn't guarantee growth. It legislates ceilings but no floors. The total allocation pool sets a maximum number of Commonwealth supported places. It doesn't guarantee a minimum. That being said, from conversations with the minister's office, I am satisfied that the government is aware of and planning to act on this issue.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">To conclude, this bill gets the direction right. Managed planned growth based on the country's needs is better than the unplanned unmanaged drift the accord report described. Needs based funding is an overdue step towards the equity this system was always supposed to deliver, and bringing proper stewardship to international student places through an independent commission rather than unilateral ministerial decision-making is also an important step.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">A bill titled 'opening the doors of opportunity' has to be judged against that standard. Does it open doors, or does it relocate the bottleneck? On the evidence now before this House, the hard caps risk closing doors on students through no fault of their own, and the ministerial powers aren't yet matched by appropriate safeguards. I'll be moving amendments in the consideration in detail stage to fix these problems. I want this bill to succeed, and succeeding means it has to work for the students trying to get into university to build a life for themselves not just for the bureaucrats in Canberra.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>40</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Campbell, Julie-Ann MP</name>
                <name.id>312823</name.id>
                <electorate>Moreton</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CAMPBELL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moreton</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:11</span>):  What if Australia's next groundbreaking scientist, next innovative engineer or next inspiring teacher never even considers going to university because no-one encouraged them to or there seemed to be too many barriers? That question becomes even more poignant when we think about people from disadvantaged backgrounds, lower socioeconomic backgrounds and First Nations communities and those living in regional areas. For many of these young people, there is no clear pathway to university. For some, it seems out of reach because of financial pressure, and, for others, it's distance, or it can simply be a case of not having any role models from your community who have gone to uni, bringing to life that evocative phrase 'you can't be what you can't see'. It's not a lack of ability or talent holding people back; it's a lack of opportunity and it's a lack of support. It is why the Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026 is so very important. Labor has always been the party of education. It is part of our origin story, it is our legacy, and it is our future.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill is in direct response to the recommendations of the universities accord, which was released in February 2024. Since that time, the Albanese Labor government has been swift to implement its recommendations. So far, we've actioned more than 30 of the report's 47 recommendations. A major focus of this reform was improving the operation of the Higher Education Contribution Scheme, or HECS. This included reducing existing student debt by 20 per cent, which we delivered as promised at the start of this term. We also ensured that indexation on HECS debts was capped to the lower of either the consumer price index or the wage price index. We introduced a marginal repayment system and increased the minimum income threshold at which repayments begin.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When you think about that 20 per cent off student debt, as students—thousands of them from my local electorate on Brisbane's south side—logged on and looked online, it came off immediately. Not only does this go to the cost-of-living relief that so many Australians and, particularly, young people need right now; it also goes to reducing the barriers to get a higher education degree. These measures ease the financial pressure on current students and graduates as they enter the workforce, at a critical and pivotal moment in their lives.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor also introduced the Commonwealth Prac Payment—direct and practical support for students undertaking essential degrees, such as teaching, nursing, midwifery and social work, as they complete their mandatory practical placements. Just last month, this was extended to students in ten allied health disciplines—students like those undertaking pharmacy that I met just last month. What they described was something very interesting. They described the fact that not only would it take the pressure off and not only would it mean that people would not have to scrimp and save in secondary jobs to go through, but it would make their lives easier and that it would make that pathway to getting into the workforce just that little bit simpler. I note that the assistant minister is a pharmacist herself and indeed, I believe, would be celebrating the paid prac placements of those students.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese Labor government has also increased the number of free university bridging courses, removing barriers to tertiary education access. This has given students from diverse backgrounds increased opportunities to prepare for and begin higher education. This was matched by doubling the number of university study hubs, with the establishment of 20 new hubs in regional locations and 14 in suburban communities. These hubs are designed to provide local access to resources and support for students who may not be able to relocate to major cities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Equity measures form another very important part of Labor's reform package. All First Nations students who meet entry requirements are guaranteed Commonwealth supported university places, ensuring financial barriers do not prevent access to higher education opportunities. We also established the new National Student Ombudsman in response to student safety and wellbeing challenges. This provides an independent avenue for complaints and for support and operates alongside the national code to prevent and respond to gender based violence.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, we created the Australian Tertiary Education Commission to guide the broader higher education system. This body acts as a central steward, overseeing and coordinating the tertiary education system to ensure it operates effectively and, critically, meets the needs of students, institutions and the wider community.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The universities accord told us that we need action now in order for Australia to meet our future skills needs. That means that we need to get more people to TAFE and that we need to get more people into university now. We know that people talk about university as the great equaliser, because it is. Education is that great equaliser, but it's important to remember that it is also the engine room for who we want to be as a nation and what our economy looks like, as a country. This is critical to meet the universities accord recommendation to increase the number of people in the workforce who have a certificate, diploma or degree to 80 per cent, because, if we want Australia to be a place where we build homes, we need more young people doing trades in plumbing and carpentry and electrical. If we want young people to be supporting the care economy, we need more people at universities studying pharmacy and nursing. It is those things that will make us stronger.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The accord also told us that we need more higher education students from underrepresented backgrounds, like those I mentioned earlier, and more support for them when studying. That is the crux of this bill. It implements a new funding model for higher education that will be managed by the Australian Tertiary Education Commission. It comes with a significant investment of $3.6 billion to boost the number of students at university to help us achieve that important 80 per cent figure.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The two pillars of this new funding model are managed growth funding and needs based funding. Managed growth funding will be the powerhouse behind building a bigger, better and fairer education system—a system that will give more Australians more opportunity to attend university. And needs based funding will focus on young people from disadvantaged backgrounds, providing them with the support they need to succeed once they are at university. The reforms will also clarify and strengthen the role of the Australian Tertiary Education Commission, particularly in how Commonwealth supported places at university are distributed.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">After the passage of this bill, the government will set the total number of Commonwealth supported places while the Australian Tertiary Education Commission will allocate those places to specific universities. The commission will also be enabled to allocate additional places where there is demand from students from regional and remote communities and disadvantaged backgrounds. In practice, this means the managed growth funding system will remove the cap on the number of university places for people from low socioeconomic backgrounds or regional areas, remove it for the people who need barriers removed the most. Instead, the system is designed to expand access, ensuring that more students from these groups have the opportunity to enrol in the higher education if that is the path that they want to pursue.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These changes are expected to significantly increase participation in higher education. In the next three years, an additional 16,000 places per year will be made available for students. From 2030, this will grow to 19,000 additional places per year. And, ultimately, projections indicate that an additional 230,000 domestic students will begin university studies over the next decade. This anticipated growth reflects the broader goal of making higher education more accessible and making it more inclusive. To ensure the success of these reforms, universities and other higher education providers will receive support as they transition to those new funding arrangements. This assistance will help institutions adapt to the updated system while maintaining quality education and student outcomes through the changeover period.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As I mentioned, needs based funding will be directed towards students who come from economically disadvantaged backgrounds, First Nations students and those studying at regional institutions. Frankly, your bank balance should never be a barrier to a good education. This is similar, in principle, to the Gonski model used in school education, where schools receive funding according to their location and the needs of their students. Applying this system to higher education means that institutions which enrol a higher number of students who meet certain equity and regional criteria will receive additional funding so that the support goes to where it is needed most. This ensures that universities are better resourced to support students who may face greater barriers to accessing and succeeding in their higher education journey.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As part of this shift, the level of funding provided per eligible student will increase substantially. The bill sets the base equity contribution at $1,535 per student and the base regional amount at $1,398. This is a significant increase compared to previous arrangements, where university sometimes received as little as $600 per student. The updated funding levels are designed to more accurately reflect the real costs of supporting students who are in need. In some cases, the amount allocated for each student is expected to more than double from the previous year.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Universities will now have flexibility in how they use this additional funding to improve student participation and to improve their success. This may include providing enhanced academic support services, such as tutoring and mentoring, as well as offering direct financial assistance through scholarships and through grants. Institutions will also be able to use the funding to help offset the higher operational costs associated with maintaining campuses in regional and remote communities—ultimately strengthening access and educational outcomes across the sector.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor is proud to support improving outcomes for students from underrepresented backgrounds. Labor's reforms in the tertiary education sector have been widely welcomed by stakeholders—both universities and students alike. The President of the National Union of Students, Felix Hughes, said, 'These reforms recognise that equity must be built into the higher education funding system,' and 'supporting students from underrepresented backgrounds is essential to creating a more accessible higher education system.' The CEO of Universities Australia, Luke Sheehy, agreed. He said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Australia needs more university-educated workers, not fewer.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That means opening the door to university for more Australians, no matter their postcode, background or bank balance.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">More opportunity is good for students, good for communities and good for the economy.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill speaks directly to the word that's been thrown around this place so often of late. It speaks to ambition. The reforms in this bill are aimed squarely at people from disadvantaged backgrounds, people whose lives are often shaped by challenges that many of us will simply never face. For many of them, ambition is not centred solely on personal achievement but encompasses uplifting their families and their communities. These people are not lacking in talent, nor are they lacking in motivation. Instead, they are navigating systems that make their pathways to university harder at every step. That is where this bill comes in, because it reflects core Labor values that every person deserves a fair go regardless of their background, their personal circumstances or their bank balance.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>42</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wallace, Andrew MP</name>
                <name.id>265967</name.id>
                <electorate>Fisher</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="265967" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WALLACE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fisher</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:26</span>):  I rise to speak on the Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026. At the outset, I want to make the coalition's position very clear. We've not finalised our position on this bill. It makes substantial structural changes to Australia's higher education system. It should therefore be tested thoroughly, properly, carefully and transparently through the Senate committee process. The Senate has now referred the bill to the Education and Employment Legislation Committee, which is due to report on 3 September 2026. That inquiry should examine the practical effect of this legislation; its fiscal consequences; the protection for students and providers; and the safeguards, if there are any, against the misuse of executive power. If the bill comes to a vote in this House before that committee has reported, the coalition will not oppose it, but our final position will be determined after the evidence has been heard and the committee has completed its work. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is the responsible approach, because this is not simply a bill about funding more student places. It's a bill about who holds power over Australia's universities. It's about how many students they can enrol, which courses they can offer, where growth occurs, the extent to which institutions can respond to student demand and how international students are allocated, and the conditions under which providers can continue to receive Commonwealth support.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">At its heart, this bill shifts Australia away from a system in which institutions retain meaningful flexibility towards a system in which the minister, directly or indirectly, holds extraordinary power over the sector. The minister sets the domestic Commonwealth supported place pool. The minister sets the international student allocation pool. The minister may determine demand driven courses. The minister can directly allocate places in specified circumstances. The minister can impose conditions on specified providers. The minister determines many of the operational details of needs based funding through guidelines. Those powers are not merely exercised by this minister; they are powers that would be inherited by every future Minister for Education. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is the proper test that we in this place have to examine. We shouldn't legislate on the assumption that this minister nor every future minister will exercise broad discretionary power cautiously, transparently and wisely. Parliament must assess the machinery it creates, not simply the intentions of the government currently occupying the Treasury benches.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>43</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Garland, Carina MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>295588</name.id>
                <electorate>Chisholm</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="295588" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr Garland</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">)</span> (<span class="HPS-Time">13:30</span>):  The debate is interrupted in accordance with standing order 43. The debate may be resumed at a later hour, and the member will have leave to continue speaking when the debate is resumed.</span>
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        <page.no>43</page.no>
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          <title>Fowler Electorate: Seniors</title>
          <page.no>43</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Fowler Electorate: Seniors</span>
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        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>43</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Le, Dai MP</name>
              <name.id>295676</name.id>
              <electorate>Fowler</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="295676" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fowler</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:30</span>):  Last month, on 21 July, I had the privilege of attending the seniors' concert at the Liverpool Catholic Club. I was honoured to stand with our local seniors, to celebrate them and to recognise what the older generations give to our community. Our seniors carry a wealth of wisdom, culture and life experience that enriches every one of us across Fairfield and Liverpool cities. Gatherings like this matter. They bring people together and build a real sense of belonging. For many of our seniors, particularly those from migrant and refugee backgrounds, they are a lifeline against isolation.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The energy in that room was something special. The live band played the classics and, before long, people were up dancing in front of the stage. I enjoyed speaking with so many of the people there that afternoon. The staff were exceptional, warm, welcoming and gently coaxing everyone onto the dance floor. And I have to say, the catering there at the club was excellent.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is occasions like this that keep our community ties strong and ensure our elders feel valued and not forgotten. I thank the Liverpool Catholic Club—its board, the executive—the organisers, the performers and the hardworking staff of Liverpool Council for organising this seniors concert for our community. To our seniors: you built this community. We see you and we are better for it. I hope you enjoyed that afternoon as much as I did.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Newcastle Electorate: Manufacturing</title>
          <page.no>43</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Newcastle Electorate: Manufacturing</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>43</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP</name>
              <name.id>248181</name.id>
              <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CLAYDON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Newcastle</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Speaker</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:31</span>):  Today is a great day for Newcastle and the Hunter and a great day for Australian manufacturing. I want to acknowledge the Albanese and Minns Labor governments for securing the future of Tomago Aluminium and for saving more than a thousand direct jobs and thousands more across the Hunter's supply chain. I also want to give a shout out to my Hunter colleagues—the members for Paterson, Hunter and Shortland. We have fought together to ensure Tomago's future is secure. Most importantly, thank you to the workers of Tomago, and to the ETU, the AWU, the AMWU and Hunter workers who have stood together and fought for these jobs and this industry.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is about more than saving a world-class aluminium smelter; it's about sovereign manufacturing and making sure Australia can make the things that we need here at home. Aluminium is critical to our future and to building homes, transmission lines, solar panels, wind turbines, electric vehicles and the technologies that will power our clean energy economy. Backing Tomago means backing good local jobs, stronger regional communities and a stronger, more sovereign Australian economy. This is a massive win for the Hunter, a great win for Australian manufacturing and a really big vote of confidence in our region and our future. This one is for you, Hunter workers.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Artificial Intelligence</title>
          <page.no>43</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Artificial Intelligence</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>43</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ryan, Monique MP</name>
              <name.id>297660</name.id>
              <electorate>Kooyong</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="297660" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr RYAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kooyong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:33</span>):  There is a clear and increasingly urgent need for Australian governments to set the conditions for safe and effective adoption of AI services in health care. AI is already reading our scans and biopsies, drafting clinical notes and triaging patients. But our response so far has been siloed and fragmented. There is no single oversight body across health care. The new office of AI will need dedicated senior health leadership.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We need a national AI health strategy covering tiered safety and evidence standards across the AI lifecycle; clear liability and an independent body empowered to audit or halt deployed systems; mandatory equity testing across rural, First Nations, non-English-speaking and older populations; national data sharing and benchmark data sets; and clinician training in model uncertainty, not in generic AI literacy.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We need investment in sovereign AI capability and genuine protections of transparency and consent for all patients of all ages in our healthcare system. AI is already opening doors to a more efficient and more adaptive healthcare system, but it also has the potential to be a very major disruptor of that system. We have to move with innovation and agility to get ahead of this historic challenge.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Southern Launch</title>
          <page.no>43</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Southern Launch</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>43</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Clutterham, Claire MP</name>
              <name.id>316101</name.id>
              <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316101" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CLUTTERHAM</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Sturt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:34</span>):  The National Reconstruction Fund Corporation has taken a $10 million equity stake in aerospace company Southern Launch, located in my home state of South Australia. When I visited the Adelaide headquarters of Southern Launch, I met a group of dynamic, innovative and energised people excited by the opportunities offered by the sovereign space industry.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Southern Launch is a pioneering aerospace company. In February 2025, with Varda Space Industries, it achieved the world's first commercial spacecraft re-entry. Under the leadership of CEO Lloyd Damp, Southern Launch's goal is to build and operate spaceports, facilitate rocket launches into orbit, enable suborbital launches, foster orbital re-entries and enable companies to develop medical therapies in space. Southern Launch does all of this at the same time as driving economic participation for First Nations people, specifically the Koonibba traditional owners; the Koonibba Community Aboriginal Corporation is a Southern Launch shareholder.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The investment by the National Reconstruction Fund Corporation in Southern Launch will help to establish a future space manufacturing hub and supply chain businesses in South Australia, creating new jobs and opportunities within the emerging space industry while fortifying a critical national supply chain. Southern Launch knows that South Australia is perfectly placed for space launch. Southern Launch and South Australia—how good!</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cutler, Mr Andrew</title>
          <page.no>44</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Cutler, Mr Andrew</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>44</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Scamps, Sophie MP</name>
              <name.id>299623</name.id>
              <electorate>Mackellar</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299623" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr SCAMPS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mackellar</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:36</span>):  I want to read an excerpt of a speech I heard at the West Pittwater RFS AGM recently, as it is a wonderful tribute to retiring captain Andrew 'Cuts' Cutler and is emblematic of the commitment and sacrifice of so many in similar positions across Mackellar. The speech was made by another legend and former captain of the unit, Wayne Lazarides. The excerpt reads:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">As Captain, Cuts was a powerful force, and he always led from the front.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I don't know what drives Andrew, or where he found the energy to keep going for 13 years. But I do think I have some understanding of what it cost him.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">As brigade members we hear the pager go off, at the fireground, the training nights, the meetings and the public moments.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">What we don't always see are the countless decisions made behind the scenes.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The responsibility that follows you home. The phone calls that interrupt family dinners. The sleepless nights during campaign fires.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The weight of knowing that every decision has consequences, and that the safety of your crew (your friends) and the welfare of your community can rest on your judgement.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Leadership carries a price.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Sometimes it's measured in time. Sometimes in missed moments with family.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Sometimes in criticism.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Sometimes simply in the burden of always being the person expected to have the answers.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">What I admire most is that Andrew kept turning up.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Whatever the challenge, whatever the criticism, whatever the pressure, he kept turning up. He kept putting one foot in front of the other, year after year.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">He always gave 100%.</span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>'Eastern Rosellas'</title>
          <page.no>44</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">'Eastern Rosellas'</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>44</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Laxale, Jerome MP</name>
              <name.id>299174</name.id>
              <electorate>Bennelong</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299174" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LAXALE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bennelong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:38</span>):  For the last four weeks, the nation has been united by a viral song written by locals in my electorate of Bennelong. Since young Miles Phillips released 'Eastern Rosellas', it's been playing non-stop in all of our heads. I think this song went viral for a few reasons. I think Australia loved seeing Miles's father, Joel, connect and thrive with his son, supporting him through their love of music.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Many of us would have been touched by the focus on Australia's wondrous fauna. We are home to some of the most beautiful animals in the world, and the eastern rosella is just one of them. With 'red, yellow, green and blue, colours so bright they'll shine for you,' this global recognition is highly deserved. And then the beat drops, and our nation collectively rejoices.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">For me, 'Eastern Rosellas' is more than a song. It's a reminder of why we need to continue to work and protect our environment. To the very talented Miles: you've created an absolute banger that has taken the world by storm. I see the next stop as No. 1 on the triple j hottest 100 countdown. While we may disagree on many things here, I would hope that this parliament unanimously backs my call to get Jack Black to cover the song, just as Miles would want. 'They're flying over my head now.' Thanks for the tune, Miles.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>44</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Economy</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>44</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Price, Melissa Lee MP</name>
              <name.id>249308</name.id>
              <electorate>Durack</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <a href="249308" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms PRICE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Durack</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:39</span>):  Australians are feeling poorer under the Albanese government. Many across the country are struggling to pay their mortgages, struggling with higher energy costs and struggling to put food on their families' tables. Yet, day in and day out, we are lectured to by those opposite about all of this cost-of-living 'help' that the Albanese government is giving to Australians. Well, Australians are sick to death of hearing these party lines and promises, and so am I. What Australians want is real relief and practical solutions, because, at the moment, Australians are not feeling the help, just the pain, and the economic indicators back that up. We need less talk and real action, not just for the next year but for generations to come, which is what the next coalition government will give to all Australians. I'm fighting for lower taxes through our tax-back guarantee, which is real generational tax reform; affordable and reliable energy by scrapping net zero, lifting the ban on nuclear energy and supporting a mix of energy sources; and lower migration and more housing by capping immigration levels at homes completed and overhauling our skilled migration program to bring in the skills that our businesses and industries need—just commonsense reforms. I want to put Australians first and to pay down the trillion dollars of debt by cashing in on windfalls from our natural resources. Under a coalition government, Australians will see real action to fix our economy and protect our way of life—not just words.</span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Operation Copper</title>
          <page.no>45</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Operation Copper</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>45</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Gosling, Luke MP</name>
              <name.id>245392</name.id>
              <electorate>Solomon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="245392" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GOSLING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Solomon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:41</span>):  I would like to recognise an extraordinary group of Australians whose generosity has preserved an important chapter of our nation's wartime history. <span style="font-style:italic;">The </span><span style="font-style:italic;">R</span><span style="font-style:italic;">eal Operation Copper</span> is a documentary film about a little-known but remarkable Australian special operations mission conducted by Australian commandos in Papua New Guinea during the Second World War. It tells the story of the men who served with courage, ingenuity and sacrifice in defence of Australia. This production is particularly significant in not only the story it tells but the way in which it was made. The documentary was completed through the voluntary efforts of an extraordinary community of Australians ranging across veterans, actors, film professionals, businesspeople and other supporters and donors who believe this story deserves to be preserved. Their contribution represents the very best of the Australian spirit—people working together to honour those who served and to ensure that future generations understand the sacrifices that helped secure our freedom. I recognise the leadership of John and Nataliya Schindler, of Mike McGuiness, of John Thurgar and of John Roxburgh together with the many volunteers, supporters and donors whose generosity made this film project possible. I offer sincere thanks to every person who contributed to this remarkable project. Lest we forget.</span>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>45</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Economy</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>45</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Rebello, Leon MP</name>
              <name.id>316547</name.id>
              <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316547" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr REBELLO</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McPherson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:42</span>):  Australians expect judgement, dignity and character from their prime minister; instead, they get crude banter, excuses and denial. The Prime Minister continues to diminish the office he holds. But, even worse, his government is diminishing the living standards of Australians he's supposed to serve. Under Labor, Australians have suffered the biggest fall in living standards in the developed world. Productivity is in freefall. On the Reserve Bank's own numbers, it will take eight years just to get back to where we were before Labor came to office. And, because Labor can't manage money, they're coming after yours—more spending, more debt, more red tape and toxic new taxes on housing, savings, investment and small business. Labor is not rewarding aspiration; it is punishing it. The contrast could not be clearer. The coalition has a plan to fix the economy and protect our way of life. We'll axe Labor's toxic taxes and deliver our tax-back guarantee to address bracket creep so Australians can keep more of what they earn. We'll deliver cheaper and more reliable power, get migration and housing into balance, cut the red tape holding back builders and businesses and establish the Future Generations Fund to pay down Labor's trillion-dollar debt and get more return on our resources. Government should enable Australians to get ahead, not stand in their way. Labor offers higher taxes and managed decline; the coalition offers lower taxes, greater opportunity and a confident path back to prosperity.</span>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Domestic and Family Violence</title>
          <page.no>45</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Domestic and Family Violence</span>
            </p>
          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>45</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Jarrett, Madonna MP</name>
              <name.id>298574</name.id>
              <electorate>Brisbane</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298574" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms JARRETT</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Brisbane</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:44</span>):  This year alone, 45 Australian women have had their lives tragically cut short at the hands of violence by men. Behind every number is someone's mum, sister, aunt or friend whose life was stolen and whose loved ones are left behind. We are facing a domestic violence crisis in this country. Tragically, family and domestic violence remains the leading reason why Australian women and children find themselves homeless. We know that one of the main reasons they are homeless is because they don't have a safe place to go in a way that they can leave the violent relationship. It's simply not good enough.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Recognising the impact that these challenges have on women, we announced a $308 million investment to deliver 448 new crisis and transitional homes in Australia. These homes are going to support around 22,000 women and children at some of the most vulnerable periods in their lives. These homes are far more than bricks and mortar. They will provide not only a safe place to stay but also the services and support women and children need to recover from the trauma, regain their independence and rebuild their lives with confidence and dignity. That's what meaningful housing delivery looks like. It's in stark contrast to those opposite, who in nine years built only nine crisis and transitional homes across the country. It's a disgrace. Together, we can build a nation where every woman and child is safe, supported and empowered to thrive.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>46</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Economy</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>46</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Pike, Henry MP</name>
              <name.id>300120</name.id>
              <electorate>Bowman</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300120" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr PIKE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bowman</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:45</span>):  It's always been the great promise of this country that every generation could pass onto their children a nation that was stronger and more prosperous. Unfortunately, under this government, this potentially will be the first generation not able to do that. Under Labor, Australians have suffered the biggest fall in living standards across the developed world. Under Labor, the RBA is forecasting that productivity will take eight years just to get us back to the levels that we had them at when we were last in government. You might recall the three-day talkfest that occurred in this building when the government last year tried to tackle the productivity challenge. The Treasurer said in an interview at the time: 'Productivity is the main game here. We've got our eyes on the prize. We've got a big productivity agenda.' He noted in his closing press conference:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">… higher living standards is the holy grail, and a more productive economy is how we deliver it.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Twelve months on, how is the government going on this big challenge? How are they going in seeking that holy grail? Productivity has gone further backwards. Australians are working harder but falling further and further behind. Our country desperately needs change. The coalition has a plan to deliver that change by fixing our economy and protecting our way of life in a way that we can lift productivity and rebuild Australian living standards.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cancer: Fundraising</title>
          <page.no>46</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Cancer: Fundraising</span>
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          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>46</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Repacholi, Dan MP</name>
              <name.id>298840</name.id>
              <electorate>Hunter</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298840" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr REPACHOLI</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hunter</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:47</span>):  I want to recognise an extraordinary young person from the Hunter community: 15-year-old Tilly from Morisset. Today, Tilly is doing something incredibly brave and generous. She's shaving off all of her hair to support people affected by cancer. Her hair will be donated to sustainable salons, where it can be used to help create medical wigs for people experiencing hair loss as a result of cancer treatment and other medical conditions.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But Tilly's generosity doesn't stop there. She's also raising money for Cancer Council NSW and has already raised more than $3,300. That's an outstanding achievement for a young person who simply wanted to make a real difference. At just 15 years of age, Tilly is showing all of us what community spirit, compassion and leadership look like. I know the people of Morisset, along with her school community at Morisset High School, will be incredibly proud of her. I encourage everybody to get behind Tilly, if they can. If you're able to donate, please do so. If you're not, that's okay, but what you can do is share her story and help spread the word. That can really make a difference too. Tilly, your courage and kindness is an absolute inspiration to not only the people of the Hunter but people all over this beautiful country of Australia. On behalf of our community, congratulations on what you're doing today. Thank you for thinking of others, and good luck with the shave. You are an absolute champion.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>46</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Economy</span>
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          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>46</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Leeser, Julian MP</name>
              <name.id>109556</name.id>
              <electorate>Berowra</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="109556" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LEESER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Berowra</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:48</span>):  People in the Berowra community were already doing it tough, and then along came Anthony Albanese with his toxic taxes, which made things so much worse. The <span style="font-style:italic;">Financial Review</span> has reported that Labor's toxic taxes have wiped 5.7 per cent of the value of homes in Berowra. That's an average of $114,000. At the same time, there's no evidence of additional first home buyers in our community. That's the double whammy of Labor's bad policy, and unfortunately it's part of a much bigger problem. Under Labor, Australians are working harder but getting less for it. Productivity is going backwards. Small businesses are dealing with more red tape and higher costs. Families are paying more tax, and Australian living standards have fallen. Labor have made it harder to invest, harder to run a business and harder for families to get ahead.<span style="&#xA;    font-family:;&#xA;  font-weight:bold;&#xA;    font-size:11.5pt;&#xA;  "></span>We need to get Australia moving again, and that means rewarding hard work, it means backing small business, it means encouraging investment and it means getting government out of the way. Australians shouldn't have to work harder and harder just to keep going backwards, but that's what they're doing under the Albanese Labor government. Australians deserve a government that will help them get ahead.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Claydon</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  I'm just going to remind members not to use personal names in their speeches and to always refer to members in this House by their titles.</span>
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          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>46</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>248181</name.id>
                <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
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            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>46</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Housing</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>46</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Berry, Carol MP</name>
              <name.id>23497</name.id>
              <electorate>Whitlam</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="23497" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BERRY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Whitlam</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:50</span>):  Far too many young people feel that the housing market is stacked against them. I've spoken to many young people in my electorate who feel that the idea of owning their own home is completely out of reach. Our government is working hard to level the playing field for young Australians aspiring to homeownership. Labor is delivering tax reform and housing investments that are specifically designed to help younger people buy their own home.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor's five per cent deposit scheme is helping younger Australians buy a home of their own sooner, slashing the time required to save for a deposit. Our government has supported over 260,000 Australians nationwide to buy a home through our five per cent deposit scheme, and we've saved those 260,000 Australians more than $2.5 billion in lenders mortgage insurance. In my electorate of Whitlam, I'm pleased to report that over 1,800 people have used our five per cent deposit scheme to buy their own home.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor is also concerned with assisting people in our community who are renting. For example, over 9,000 people in my electorate of Whitlam receive Commonwealth rent assistance. Our government has delivered the first back-to-back increases in Commonwealth rent assistance in over 30 years. Rent assistance has increased by over 50 per cent since we came to government. Only a Labor government will deliver this kind of bold reform for Australians who need it most. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Prime Minister</title>
          <page.no>47</page.no>
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          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Prime Minister</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>47</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McKenzie, Zoe MP</name>
              <name.id>124514</name.id>
              <electorate>Flinders</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="124514" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms McKENZIE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Flinders</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:51</span>):  This week we have once again observed a stubborn Prime Minister who consistently refuses to fess up when he has tripped up: 'It wasn't me. I didn't fall. No, it wasn't me. I didn't offend the people of Japan by making a mockery of their honourable gift. It wasn't me. I didn't stuff up on a blokey podcast making a stupid joke about melons at the expense of the Japanese prime minister and confessing to a childhood crush on an Australian idol.' While the Prime Minister and his performing clown backbenchers fail to assume the task set to them, to muster the grace and honour due to the title of the Australian government, the coalition is getting on with the job.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We're getting on with the job of designing an Australian economy with rigour and accountability, building back aspiration, encouraging endeavour and sacrifice and respecting wealth where it results from hard work. On this side of the chamber we have a plan, and a detailed plan, to restore Australia's prosperity and standard of living—by first of all ridding Australia of Labor's toxic taxes; by guaranteeing lower power prices; by pursuing energy abundance so we don't see bailouts time after time for failing Australian industries as a result of the policies of the other side; by pegging migration to our infrastructure capacity, making sure, when we bring migrants in, we can provide homes for them; and by putting Australians first, investing in those who make a lifelong commitment to this country. </span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Tertiary Education and Training</title>
          <page.no>47</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Tertiary Education and Training</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>47</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Payne, Alicia MP</name>
              <name.id>144732</name.id>
              <electorate>Canberra</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="144732" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms PAYNE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Canberra</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:53</span>):  Recently, I attended the market days at ANU and University of Canberra, and I also visited the Australian Catholic University here in Canberra, where I heard about what the Albanese government's paid prac support means to students. Among them were Harsi and Caitlin from the Canberra Student Pharmacy Association, who spoke about the challenges of lengthy practical placements and the difference the support will make. For many healthcare students, placements require hundreds of hours away from paid work and, in many cases, away from home. These commitments can place significant financial pressure on students preparing for the professions that our communities rely on. That's why the Albanese government is expanding the Commonwealth paid prac payment to students studying 10 additional frontline health professions, including pharmacy, physiotherapy, occupational therapy, paramedicine, radiography and clinical psychology among others. This builds on support already available to eligible teaching, nursing, midwifery and social work students. This is real cost-of-living relief. It means students can focus on gaining the skills and practical experience they need to complete their studies and serve our communities, rather than worrying about making ends meet. By backing students today we are strengthening the healthcare workforce Australia will rely on tomorrow.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>National Security</title>
          <page.no>47</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">National Security</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>47</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Thompson, Phillip MP</name>
              <name.id>281826</name.id>
              <electorate>Herbert</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281826" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr THOMPSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Herbert</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:54</span>):  Our critical military bases have been turned into a playground for unidentified drone operators because of this government's staggering incompetence. It is a betrayal of the men and women in uniform that the bases they serve on are being threatened and treated as unprotected targets. Reports show that there were 147 drone incidents, up from 60 the previous year. These figures prove this isn't a fluke; it is a systematic, humiliating collapse of our national defences under this Labor government's watch. Australians deserve to know why the government allowed swarms of drones to operate at sensitive facilities with absolutely no consequence. We must know what intelligence was stolen, whether ADF members were filmed or followed and who was responsible.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Prime Minister and the Minister for Defence must stop hiding under their desks and explain their shameful delay and why they kept the true scale of this national security disaster from the public. When our most sensitive bases are breached repeatedly and the government is clueless, Australians have every right to view the Albanese Labor government as a fundamental threat to our national security. If this Prime Minister gave national security as much thought as he gave Kylie Minogue and the Japanese prime minister's melons, we might not be in this situation.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Domestic and Family Violence</title>
          <page.no>47</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Domestic and Family Violence</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>47</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Cook, Kara MP</name>
              <name.id>316537</name.id>
              <electorate>Bonner</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316537" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms KARA COOK</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bonner</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:56</span>):  I rise today with a heavy heart—four women killed in 45 days in my home state of Queensland. Across our country, 45 Australian women have been killed by violence this year. As a former domestic violence lawyer, I know the courage it takes to leave—and when a woman does, it is the most dangerous time, and our systems must support her.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese Labor government has made ending violence against women and children a national priority. We have invested more than $4.4 billion under our national plan. We have made the leaving violence payment permanent, delivered 500 additional frontline workers, strengthened prevention and invested in legal assistance, specialist police training and perpetrator programs. But four women killed in Queensland in 45 days tells us something very clearly: there is so much more work to do.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We must prevent violence before it starts. We must intervene earlier. We must hold perpetrators to account. And we must ensure that, when a woman reaches out for help, she is heard and she is safe. Our goal is ambitious, but it must be to end violence against women and children in one generation. Women deserve to be safe everywhere, always, and this government is working every single day to make that a reality.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Prime Minister</title>
          <page.no>48</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Prime Minister</span>
            </p>
          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>48</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Tehan, Dan MP</name>
              <name.id>210911</name.id>
              <electorate>Wannon</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TEHAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wannon</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:57</span>):  There's something about the Prime Minister, the Hunter Valley and the truth. Do you remember when he spoke to the Mining and Energy Union in the Hunter Valley and he slipped off the stage—maybe he slipped off the stage, maybe he fell off the stage. But, remember, he didn't trip. No, he denied point blank that he tripped. And there he was today, at Tomago. He got a very simple question put to him: 'Did you disrespect the Japanese prime minister?' And what happens this time? Chris Minns pulls the curtain on it.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">There is something about the truth and this Prime Minister.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Government members interjecting</span>—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr TEHAN:</span>
                  </a>  They can interject all they like. You know what the problem is: when he doesn't tell the truth, Australians pay for it. The Australian average worker is $1,500 poorer because this Prime Minister can't tell the truth. That's $5,500 since he came to office. Learn to tell the truth, Prime Minister.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Member for Leichhardt, don't rise from your seat until you're called. The member for Leichhardt has the call.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <continue>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>48</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Tehan, Dan MP</name>
                <name.id>210911</name.id>
                <electorate>Wannon</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </continue>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>48</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Medicare</title>
          <page.no>48</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Medicare</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>48</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Smith, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>312393</name.id>
              <electorate>Leichhardt</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="312393" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr MATT SMITH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Leichhardt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:59</span>):  There are now over 3,800 bulk-billing clinics right across the country. If you take four seconds to say the name of each one, it takes about four hours and five minutes to complete—all the amount of time I spend in the air to get here. The fact that I know this makes me a very annoying person to sit next to!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's not just GPs; it's Medicare mental health clinics. It's 1800MEDICARE. It's urgent care clinics. It's cheaper medicine at 2004 prices. And it's, finally, acknowledging women's health. In the Far North, it's the JCU Yeinie Building, where doctors are trained from go to whoa. It's a new CQU build with paid prac for all of our allied health that we're going to need, and it's the nursing at Thursday Island because we know, when you train them at home, they stay at home. While the opposition has to reach for a dictionary to get the definition of Medicare, millions of Australians know, every time they reach for that green and gold card, exactly what it stands for. Labor built Medicare. Labor protects Medicare. Labor strengthens Medicare.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  In accordance with standing order 43, the time for members' statements has concluded.</span>
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          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>48</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
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    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>STATEMENTS ON INDULGENCE</title>
        <page.no>48</page.no>
        <type>STATEMENTS ON INDULGENCE</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">STATEMENTS ON INDULGENCE</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>International Relations: Australia and Brunei</title>
          <page.no>48</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">International Relations: Australia and Brunei</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>48</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:00</span>):  A short time ago, I had the absolute pleasure of meeting with His Royal Highness the Crown Prince of Brunei. We discussed our shared ambition for a peaceful, stable and prosperous region underpinned by free trade, freedom of navigation and, of course, ASEAN centrality. Crucially, we reaffirmed our shared commitment to work together to strengthen energy supply chain resilience. This is of the utmost importance. Our meeting today follows on from my visit to Brunei in April, where His Majesty the Sultan of Brunei Darussalam and I agreed to strengthen energy and food security to support the flow of essential goods between our two countries—including petroleum oils, agriculture and agrifood essentials, and key agricultural inputs such as urea.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Since the April visit and the broader engagement in the region with our partners, Australia has maintained strong fuel and fertiliser stocks despite ongoing uncertainty in the Middle East. This is one more reminder of the importance of our government's work in rebuilding and strengthening our relationships with the nations in our region. That friendship and cooperation with our neighbours such as Brunei puts Australia at the front of the queue when the pressure is on, and in times of global uncertainty this matters more than ever. The Crown Prince is now travelling to Sydney, where he will have other engagements. He has met with Her Excellency the Governor-General.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We wish him all the very best for a safe and fruitful journey here, and we wish him all the very best on a safe journey home as well.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</title>
        <page.no>49</page.no>
        <type>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</type>
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      <debate.text>
        <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:WX="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Prime Minister</title>
          <page.no>49</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Prime Minister</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>49</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Taylor, Angus MP</name>
              <name.id>231027</name.id>
              <electorate>Hume</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="231027" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr TAYLOR</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hume</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Leader of the Opposition</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:02</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. This morning, the Prime Minister was asked yet again about his classless comments on the Bush Deep podcast. Yet again, he refused to give a straight answer. To save him from embarrassment, the New South Wales Premier stepped in and shut down the question. Why won't the Prime Minister man up, stop hiding behind his colleagues and take responsibility for his grubby behaviour?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Government members interjecting</span>—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order, members on my right! I want to hear the questions in silence. If there are any more interjections, people will not be here to hear the answer.</span>
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          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>49</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>49</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:03</span>):  I thank the Leader of the Opposition for his question, and I direct him to the comments of the ambassador of Japan, who stated very clearly:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">… the dinner hosted by Prime Minister Albanese during the prime minister's visit to Australia this May was held in a very relaxed atmosphere. We believe it helped build a personal trust relationship between the two leaders.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Indeed it did. We have a very good relationship with Japan, and I look forward to continuing to work with our friends on economic issues as well as interests of peace, security and prosperity in our region.</span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </answer>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Domestic, Family and Sexual Violence</title>
          <page.no>49</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Domestic, Family and Sexual Violence</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>49</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Elliot, Justine MP</name>
              <name.id>DZW</name.id>
              <electorate>Richmond</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DZW" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mrs ELLIOT</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Richmond</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:04</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. How is the Albanese Labor government working to prevent family, sexual and domestic violence; improve early intervention; and make sure women and children can access support they need free from violence?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>49</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:04</span>):  I thank the member for Richmond for her question. Over the last three months, our government has undertaken major consultation on the next phase of our second National Plan to End Violence against Women and Children. Yesterday, as part of that, I—along with Minister Plibersek, Minister Gallagher and Assistant Minister Kearney—took part in an extensive roundtable with leaders of 14 organisations who do work on the front line. That was one of more than 160 roundtables that have occurred right around the country, engaging over 1,100 people in person and over 2,000 people online.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This comes at a time when, just yesterday, it was reported there was another death of a First Nations woman in Queensland—allegedly, murdered by her former partner. That death is tragic, just as every single life lost to violence is.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">As elected representatives, we must listen to Australians when they tell us they want violence against women and children to stop, and we must continue to act on it in the best ways we know how. As a government, our investment has been heavily focused—understandably so—on response and recovery for women victims-survivors. That's about 80 per cent of our record $4.4 billion investment. Yesterday the housing minister made another announcement about emergency accommodation.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">What I heard yesterday was that, when it comes to the second action plan, we also need to think more deeply about prevention and listen to the voices of children. I met Conor Pall, a 22-year-old advocate for action on family and domestic violence and a survivor himself. He is an incredibly eloquent and very brave young man, who told the story of violence in his family in a very personal way.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is clear that there are gaps in the system, and my government will seek to address them as part of our second action plan. It is clear as well that government can't do it all—that all of us, as Australians, have a responsibility to do better. What is clear also is that violence against women and children, as well as the pervasiveness of violence on social media—and the normalisation of sexual violence amongst young men, such as strangulation, which is becoming more and more witnessed, with more people, victims, in hospitals—are festering issues that must be addressed, just as the role of technology and what's happening online must be addressed.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">They are national issues. They require national leadership. We all have a role to play to end this violence against women and children. We'll keep working with states and territories as well, including at the National Cabinet meeting later this month. States and territories are responsible for a lot of the actual service delivery, of course, in departments of community services around the country, which is why we want to have the update following on from the special National Cabinet meeting that I convened to deal with these issues that set in train the second national plan process.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>50</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McIntosh, Melissa MP</name>
              <name.id>281513</name.id>
              <electorate>Lindsay</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281513" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mrs McINTOSH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lindsay</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:07</span>):  on indulgence—I'd like to associate the coalition with the Prime Minister's remarks, and, in addition, to say to the states that the coalition is very willing to work with the government to prevent violence against women and children in particular. In this cost-of-living crisis, we're hearing that more and more women are unable to leave their violent partners because they can't afford to do so.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">On behalf of the coalition, I would also like to thank Conor for coming forward and being a very brave young man and sharing his story. It's a story that none of us like to hear. But these stories do need to be told, and they're the stories that every one of us, as elected officials, hears in our electorate offices every day. Sadly, despite all the investment, we're hearing them more and more. We'd like to work with you, Prime Minister, on your national action plan, and we'll continue to do so until we fix this terrible, terrible issue.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Prime Minister</title>
          <page.no>50</page.no>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>50</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McKenzie, Zoe MP</name>
              <name.id>124514</name.id>
              <electorate>Flinders</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
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                  <a href="124514" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms McKENZIE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Flinders</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:08</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. A month before he made sexist remarks about the Prime Minister of Japan on the <span style="font-style:italic;">Bush </span><span style="font-style:italic;">Deep</span> podcast, the Prime Minister did post this comment online:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">No matter who you support in politics, it is completely unacceptable to demean, objectify, belittle or offend women.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Why won't the Prime Minister stop hiding behind his female frontbenchers and the New South Wales Premier and take responsibility for his disrespectful behaviour?</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>50</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:09</span>):  I thank the member for her question. The ambassador for Japan made a very clear and unequivocal comment yesterday, publicly, about these issues. The visit of Prime Minister Takaichi was an extremely successful one, following previous successful visits by Prime Minister Kishida and following my three visits to Japan as well. Part of that visit was a dinner at the Lodge that was extremely warm and generous—very personal in the discussions that we had as well. It was an extremely successful visit. I look forward to continuing to work with our friends in Japan.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  I just remind all members about trying to constrain their imputations in questions as well. That was a very broad question, but I'm not particularly comfortable when there are so many imputations that are rife in questions. We need to make sure there are certain standards in the questions. I just remind the House of that fact.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>50</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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          <title>Domestic, Family and Sexual Violence</title>
          <page.no>50</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Domestic, Family and Sexual Violence</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>50</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Miller-Frost, Louise MP</name>
              <name.id>296272</name.id>
              <electorate>Boothby</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms MILLER-FROST</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Boothby</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:10</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Social Services. How is the Albanese Labor government working to reduce family, domestic and sexual violence? Why is this so important?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  I give the call to the Minister for Social Services.</span>
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          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>50</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>50</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Plibersek, Tanya Joan MP</name>
              <name.id>83M</name.id>
              <electorate>Sydney</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="83M" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms PLIBERSEK</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Sydney</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Social Services</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:11</span>):  Thank you so much, Mr Speaker, and thank you for meeting Conor Pall yesterday. He is a unique young man, as the Prime Minister said. Thank you also to the member for Boothby for her question and for her advocacy on this issue. As someone who worked on the front line of homelessness, she knows the impact of family, domestic and sexual violence on our community.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Ending gender based violence is a priority for our government. As the Prime Minister said, yesterday was another devastating reminder of why this is so important. As we sat yesterday and listened to those frontline service delivery organisations talk about what we need to do in the next phase of our work on violence against women and children, I think we heard some really important and some really consistent insights. We heard that we have to do more and better for children. Children tell us that they are not just witnessing domestic violence; they are experiencing it, and they need the services to support them.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We know that escalating rates of sexual violence, particularly amongst young people, are a huge concern that we need to address. Almost 40 per cent of victims of sexual assault are between the ages of 10 and 17. And we know that online harms are spilling into real-life harm. As the Prime Minister said, sexual strangulation is becoming commonplace because children are seeing violent and degrading pornography before they've had their first kiss. It's where they're getting their sex education from.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Tech facilitated abuse is exploding. Just as we deal with one thing, like undetectable stalking apps or nudify apps, the next challenge emerges, as the Attorney-General spoke about yesterday—with those AI glasses that can record people even without their knowledge.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">And, of course, we need to work with people who use violence—help those who are willing to change. And, for those who aren't willing to change, who go on and harm one woman after another—throw them in jail, actually deal with them.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Of course, we're not waiting for the second action plan to take action. You heard from the Minister for Housing yesterday about her $308 million to deliver safe, secure homes for women and children escaping family and domestic violence, which will help 22,000 people. Our government's $4.4 billion investment has helped 1,400 organisations help close to half-a-million people. But, while one woman or one child is frightened at home at night, while one person fears sexual assault, while one person is ground down by coercive control, we won't rest; we won't stop. Every one of us here, every level of government, every community organisation, every school and every family has a role to play in our aim of ending violence against women and children.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Science</title>
          <page.no>51</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Science</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>51</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chaney, Kate MP</name>
              <name.id>300006</name.id>
              <electorate>Curtin</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300006" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms CHANEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Curtin</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:14</span>):  This is a question for the Minister representing the Minister for Science. Investment in science is critical to Australia's future productivity and prosperity, but our science system is going backwards. We rank 40th out of 44 OECD nations for STEM graduates and invest well below the average on research and development. We need bold and urgent action to reverse this decline. When will the government commit to implementing the full package of reforms recommended in the <span style="font-style:italic;">Ambitious Australia </span>report?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>51</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Rowland, Michelle MP</name>
              <name.id>159771</name.id>
              <electorate>Greenway</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="159771" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms ROWLAND</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Greenway</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Attorney-General</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:14</span>):  I thank the member for her interest in this important policy area and acknowledge her constructive engagement on this and many other issues. The <span style="font-style:italic;">Ambitious Australia </span>report was a major undertaking with hundreds of submissions and extensive recommendations touching every aspect of Australia's research and development ecosystem. The fact is that it will take time to deliver the reform that's required to make good on the ambition of that report, but the report presents a comprehensive set of recommendations, and this year's budget includes the first steps of the government's response.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">A strategic, well-functioning R&amp;D sector is essential to delivering a future made in Australia, turning ideas into industry, strengthening resilience and supporting Australian workers and businesses. <span style="font-style:italic;">Ambitious Australia</span> makes clear that government funding alone cannot lift R&amp;D performance. Industry, universities and the private sector all have a role to play. There is $2 billion of new spending on R&amp;D in this recent budget, bringing the government's spend over the forwards on R&amp;D to over $39.1 billion. We're establishing the National Resilience and Science Council to better coordinate and align public innovation investments with Australia's economic objectives. We're strengthening Australian science capability, critical to delivering a future made in Australia, with $1.5 billion invested in science and innovation, including in the CSIRO, the National Measurement Institute, the Australian Space Agency and the Square Kilometre Array.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We're backing Australian researchers and making Australia a destination for clinical trials with $589 million of investment so Australians can obtain early access to life-changing medicines and treatments. This includes increasing disbursements from the Medical Research Future Fund, growing each year from 2026-27 up to $1 billion a year by 2030-31. The government is focused on making sure that every dollar spent on R&amp;D has significant scale and impact. To that end, we recently concluded treaty negotiations on Horizon Europe, which will give Australian organisations access to the world's largest pooled research fund in 2027, worth $155 billion. We know we can always do more, but it will take a collective effort, and industry and the research sector each have a role to play. That's why, on top of increasing public investment in science, the first stage of our response to <span style="font-style:italic;">Ambitious Australia</span> has focused on better targeting incentives for business to invest in Australian innovation and improving coordination of our R&amp;D efforts.</span>
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        </answer>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Sovereign Capability</title>
          <page.no>51</page.no>
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          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Sovereign Capability</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>51</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP</name>
              <name.id>248181</name.id>
              <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms CLAYDON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Newcastle</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Speaker</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:17</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. How is the Albanese Labor government delivering on our national resilience by backing Australia's workforce, our sovereign capability and future manufacturing industry? Why is this important, and have there been any responses?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>51</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:17</span>):  I thank the member for that heartland of Australian manufacturing historically—Newcastle. Resilience, good, secure jobs and a future made in Australia are what we have delivered with New South Wales and Tomago Aluminium today, securing the future for more than 1,000 workers directly on the Tomago Aluminium smelter site itself and more than 5,000 jobs direct in the Hunter, helping to contribute to the manufacturing supply chain and the future for the generations of Australians who will work at Tomago in the years to come. I met one worker there who has worked there for 43 years. What he said was that he was so pleased that future generations there in the Hunter will have good-quality jobs in the future.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In a world that is more unpredictable and at risk of disruption, backing Australia's sovereign industrial capability and abundant renewable energy is so important. We reject the idea—</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Opposition members interjecting</span>—</span>
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                  <a href="R36" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr ALBANESE:</span>
                  </a>  Nothing upsets them more than to hear that jobs are being protected. Nothing upsets them more. This is the same mob that told the car industry to bugger off. What we think and understand is that jobs are important and that we need to make more things here in Australia. We can't just be at the end of global supply chains. We have the raw materials, the skilled workforce and the renewable energy capacity, as well as the aspiration and the motivation to build for the future. We take that challenge and the opportunity seriously, because what we announced at Tomago today is just one part of that vision.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Whether it's our manufacturing capability at the Boyne smelter, at the Whyalla steelworks, at Glencore in Mount Isa or at Nyrstar in Port Pirie and whether it's our fuel security or investing in our critical minerals industry, those jobs, those industries and those opportunities are in our national interest. That's why Labor is committed to investing in a future made in Australia, to modernising our national energy grid, to securing sovereign capability and our resilience, to backing Australian industry here and now and to investing in jobs and industries so as to set Australia up for a prosperous future.</span>
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                <page.no>51</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
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                <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
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        <page.no>52</page.no>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</span>
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          <page.no>52</page.no>
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              <page.no>52</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">14:20</span>):  I'm pleased to inform the House that present in the gallery today is Councillor Ben Fry, the deputy mayor of Bathurst Regional Council, as a guest of the member for Calare.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-GeneralInterjecting">Honourable members:</span>  Hear, hear!</span>
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        <page.no>52</page.no>
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          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>52</page.no>
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              <page.no>52</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Wilson, Tim MP</name>
              <name.id>IMW</name.id>
              <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Goldstein</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:21</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. Data released today shows the average Australian worker is more than $1,200 a year poorer than they were a year ago. Why is the Albanese Labor government making Australians poorer?</span>
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              <page.no>52</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:21</span>):  I thank the member for his question. Labor is indeed focused on easing cost-of-living pressures and making a positive difference—all measures that were opposed by those opposite. Whether it was the tax cuts that came in on 1 July, whether it's the measures that have lifted up bulk-billing to 84 per cent nationally, whether it's the 800,000 enrolments in free TAFE, whether it's the new legislation that's delivering wage justice for early childhood educators, whether it be minimum standards and minimum pay for gig economy workers, whether it be expanding paid prac—they won't expand it; they'll get rid of it. That's what they took to the last election, even though it will make an enormous difference.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Whether it be the new Fair Work Court that we have announced as well to make sure that workers can be looked after, whether it be the even cheaper medicines that we've added to the PBS or the cut to the price of medicines, down to $25—and remember the hysteria over 60-day scripts that they said would be a disaster which are now in place and saving Australians money?</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="IPZ" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Chester:</span>
                  </a>  Stop helping.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Gippsland is now warned. Order! There is too much noise. This wall of noise is too great. I'm giving everyone fair warning that I'd like the noise levels to decrease. I'd like you to work with me to achieve that goal. If not, there'll be other consequences for actions.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr ALBANESE:</span>
                  </a>  They get very excited when we're talking about helping people with cost-of-living measures. When we talk about tax cuts, when we talk about lifting the minimum wage and when we talk about jobs and supporting Australian industry they get very upset. I wonder why they got so upset about Tomago, because the current leader of the opposition called for the entire industry to be offshored to China.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The Manager of Opposition Business on a point of order?</span>
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                  <a href="210911" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  The question was about the ABS average weekly earnings data, so it goes to relevance. The Prime Minister isn't addressing that weekly earnings data.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The manager, on a point of order?</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Burke:</span>
                  </a>  The question goes to whether or not workers are worse off. It's obviously in order for the Prime Minister to talk about whether they'd have a job.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Ms Penfold interjecting</span>—</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! Member for Lyne, I'm trying to deal with the manager's point of order. The question was" why is the government making workers poorer? Obviously, the Prime Minister is disagreeing with the premise of that question. With a big broad question like that, you're going to get a big broad answer. So we're going to listen to the Prime Minister because he is being directly relevant to a very broad question.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr ALBANESE:</span>
                  </a>  They're about to get upset, too, because I'm about to quote work of the current Leader of the Opposition, who wrote a report which said: 'In aluminium, there are few prospects for growth. We cannot compete in processing. Australian aluminium smelting is uncompetitive on both capital and operating costs. Chinese smelters have a clear capital cost advantage. Although our competitive position in processing is poor, Australia is well positioned to supply the emerging bauxite export market to China.' Well, there it is. We on this side of the House understand Australian jobs; they want them offshore. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Before we go any further, the Leader of the Nationals in the House was on a warning. He interjected six times. He'll now leave the chamber under 94(a). If you're on a warning and you interject, you're not going to be here.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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          <page.no>53</page.no>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>53</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Repacholi, Dan MP</name>
              <name.id>298840</name.id>
              <electorate>Hunter</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298840" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr REPACHOLI</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hunter</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:26</span>):  My question is to the minister representing the Minister for Industry and Innovation. How will the Albanese Labor government's plan to secure the future of Tomago Aluminium support local jobs as well as the future of Australia's manufacturing capability? How does this compare with other approaches? </span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>53</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Conroy, Pat MP</name>
              <name.id>249127</name.id>
              <electorate>Shortland</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249127" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr CONROY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Shortland</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Pacific Island Affairs and Minister for Defence Industry</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:27</span>):  I thank the member for Hunter for his question and his staunch advocacy for the region, alongside the member for Newcastle and the member for Paterson. This is a great day for the Hunter—one of the greatest since the 1997 Grand Final. Last year, I stood in the rain with the Prime Minister when he told the workers of Tomago, 'We have your back.' And now we've delivered, with the announcement of a joint package with New South Wales. It will keep the smelter open, it will advance the Hunter's clean energy transition and it means we keep a strategically important asset for the whole country. It will secure more than 1,000 direct jobs and 5,000 additional jobs across the Hunter.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Tomago has been operating continuously, 24 hours a day, since 1983, and it's Hunter workers who have kept it going every day and every night. I'm so proud to be part of a government who is delivering for these workers—the most pro manufacturing government in the history of this country, led by this prime minister. Make no mistake: this is a great day for the Hunter. It's an investment in the future of the region, supporting jobs and the Hunter economy and providing certainty to workers like Matt and his wife, who spoke to the PM and me about how this today's announcement has given him confidence after buying a house in Raymond Terrace. It's also a great day for Australia, because we're one of the handful of countries with an end-to-end aluminium supply chain—from bauxite mining to alumina refining to aluminium smelting—and successive global shocks have demonstrated why it's so important to make things here.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Importantly, Tomago Aluminium is also investing $1.1 billion in this facility. This is truly a future made in Australia in action, strengthening our energy security, supporting Aussie industry and delivering Australian jobs. Rio Tinto has been clear that these investments are needed, because coal power was too expensive to keep Tomago open and because of ageing coal-fired power and underinvestment in the energy system under those opposite.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm asked about other approaches. The approach of those opposite was to close Tomago down. That was part of the now Leader of the Opposition's election costings. That was on top of bullying the car industry to leave. That was on top of 23 failed energy policies when in government. That was on top of voting against price caps on gas. Only one side of the House can be trusted to support Aussie manufacturing, and it is this Labor government under this Labor Prime Minister.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>53</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Housing</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>53</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Batt, David MP</name>
              <name.id>315478</name.id>
              <electorate>Hinkler</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="315478" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr BATT</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hinkler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Nationals Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:30</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Housing. The major four banks in Australia are all reporting declines in home loan applications of between 12 per cent and 20 per cent since Labor's budget of broken promises. Will the minister finally admit Labor's toxic taxes have tanked the housing market?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>53</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">O'Neil, Clare Ellen MP</name>
              <name.id>140590</name.id>
              <electorate>Hotham</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="140590" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms O'NEIL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hotham</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Housing, Minister for Homelessness and Minister for Cities</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:30</span>):  I thank the member for his question. I'm asked about the impact of the landmark housing tax reforms that our government has instituted, reforms that, for the first time, mean that first home buyers are standing on a level playing field with investors. Why have we taken this big step? Because we see that home ownership is the most important aspiration in the lives of most Australians, and our government is standing up and delivering that opportunity for more Australians.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm asked about the impact of these tax reforms. Let me tell the parliament what they are. These tax changes will reverse 10 years of declining home ownership rates around our country. I understand that those opposite are the 'last man standing' in our country who cannot see that we have a broken housing market. The only reason they are in that position is very simple: they are not spending enough time with their constituents. Our broken housing market is creating housing pain for millions of people around our country.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order. The minister can take a breath, can pause. I will just let her take her seat so that I can hear from the Manager of Opposition Business. Manager, on a point of order?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  Speaker, it goes to relevance. I won't read out previous rulings, correct rulings, that you've made around this, but the opposition wasn't mentioned in the question.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Yes, the minister won't be able to talk about opposition policy because she wasn't asked about alternative approaches or other policies. She was asked a fairly specific question—sorry, she had some specific information. The question was: will the minister admit toxic taxes have tanked a market. That's the question she is going to have to find an answer for, which she can do, but she won't be able to do the very limited compare and contrast, as all Speakers have done before me. But she wasn't asked about alternative policies, so that won't be able to be the majority of her answer going forward.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="140590" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms O'NEIL:</span>
                  </a>  Sure. Thanks so much, Mr Speaker. I'm very happy to speak to the impact of these landmark housing tax reforms for the country, and the massive opportunities they are opening up for home ownership for so many more Australians.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I do want to remind the parliament that this is part of a much bigger and broader housing agenda that our government is implementing. Remember, 260,000 Australians are in their own homes with our government's backing, and I want every one of them to know that they've got housing today because a Labor government saw their aspiration and backed them in.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We have the five per cent deposit program helping Australians get to the auction up to eight years earlier, and now housing tax changes have put them on a level playing field with investors for the first time. That policy alone will take 75,000 households that today are stuck in a rent trap and give them the opportunity to own their own home. We're really proud to be making these big and important changes and we're going to keep fighting for first home ownership opportunities for every person in this country.</span>
              </p>
              <a href="218019" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Hogan interjecting</span>—</span>
                </p>
              </a>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Page is now warned.</span>
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                <page.no>54</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <page.no>54</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Tehan, Dan MP</name>
                <name.id>210911</name.id>
                <electorate>Wannon</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
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                <page.no>54</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                <page.no>54</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">O'Neil, Clare Ellen MP</name>
                <name.id>140590</name.id>
                <electorate>Hotham</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
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                <page.no>54</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Mr Hogan interjecting—</name>
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                <electorate />
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                <page.no>54</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Wages and Salaries</title>
          <page.no>54</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Wages and Salaries</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>54</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burnell, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>300129</name.id>
              <electorate>Spence</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300129" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr BURNELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Spence</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:34</span>):  My question is to the Treasurer. What does today's earnings data tell us about Australians incomes? Are there any risks to the wages and retirement incomes of Australians?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>54</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chalmers, Jim MP</name>
              <name.id>37998</name.id>
              <electorate>Rankin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="37998" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Dr CHALMERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Rankin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Treasurer</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:34</span>):  Thanks to the member for Spence for his question, and also for the time that we spent with the young workers in his electorate a couple of weeks ago. Our economic plan is all about boosting wages, and today we got some encouraging news on that front because average weekly earnings are up again and the gender pay gap is closing further. They might not want to see that, but we do. Average weekly full-time earnings are up by more than 300 bucks a week since this government was elected. The gender pay gap has fallen to another record low, of 11.3 per cent, which is a source of pride for us and also a reminder that we have more work to do on that front.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Real wages growth is expected to return later this financial year as inflation subsides. Average annualised full-time earnings growth under this government is much stronger than it was under our predecessors. That's because, in their own words, lower wages were a deliberate design feature of their economic policy. So workers are earning more under this government, and because of our tax cuts they're keeping more as well. As the Prime Minister said, that's because they are getting the tax cut that those opposite voted against and said they would repeal.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is just one way that the Liberals, the Nationals and One Nation all share a dangerous and divisive antiworker agenda. But it's not the only way. They also want to end compulsory super for workers. Yesterday Senator Bragg, at the Press Club, dismissed superannuation as a 'loss of liberty' and a 'strange experiment'. And in the crowd, smirking and nodding and applauding, was the shadow Treasurer—the same shadow Treasurer who told Andrew Bolt that people on low and middle incomes should be taken out of the compulsory superannuation system. And a Tigger does not change his stripes!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is the policy of those opposite: to end super as we know it, to hack at and then destroy an essential part of our social and economic architecture and to make people poorer at work and in retirement as a consequence. Their hatred of super would decimate the retirement incomes and the economic security of Australian workers. Their hatred of super should send a shiver up the spine of every working Australian in this country.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We are delivering real and positive change in wages and in superannuation. We got it to 12 per cent, we're paying it on paid parental leave and we're boosting it for low-income workers, because we know how important super is to a decent retirement. And we will defend superannuation forever from the dangerous antiworker, antisuper ideology of those opposite.</span>
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        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Taxation</title>
          <page.no>55</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Taxation</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>55</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Price, Melissa Lee MP</name>
              <name.id>249308</name.id>
              <electorate>Durack</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms PRICE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Durack</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:37</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. Labor's toxic taxes have tanked the housing market. Does the Prime Minister know how many first home buyers are now trapped in negative equity?</span>
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              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <a href="R36" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:37</span>):  I thank the member for her question. Indeed, yesterday the shadow housing minister had a day out. It was a ripper. It was a highlight and well worth watching. He said, 'As someone who was a backbencher in the Morrison government, I am sorry I didn't do more to stop the madness.'</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The Prime Minister will pause. The Manager of Opposition Business on a point of order.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  I'm going to quote Speaker Smith from 21 June 2021: 'I uphold that point of order. There was no question about alternatives. There's a lot else in the question, but certainly nothing about alternatives.' The Prime Minister needs to be relevant to the question, and there was nothing about alternatives.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  We'll hear from the Leader of the House.</span>
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                  <a href="DYW" type="MemberInterjecting">
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                  </a>  If we are quoting Speaker Smith, I'd remind the House of two other things Speaker Smith would always do: first, allowance of a preamble on any answer, and second, that ministers were always allowed to compare and contrast. On those two particular phrases, there are multiple references.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
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                  </a>  The manager?</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  I actually have a quote of Speaker Smith on preamble, from 11 February 2021: 'The Prime Minister's had more than a preamble. The question was very specific indeed and—</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Albanese:</span>
                  </a>  You've just undermined yourself!</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  No, I haven't undermined myself. And Speaker, could the Prime Minister—I know he's had a bad week—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  No, no—just get to the point.</span>
              </p>
              <a href="R36" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Albanese interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  I know you've had a bad week.</span>
              </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Government members interjecting</span>—</span>
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                  <a href="210911" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  If I can—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! We'll just get to the point quickly and efficiently.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  Yes:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">… the Prime Minister's had more than a preamble. The question was very specific indeed and, whilst the Prime Minister is entitled to talk generally at the start of his answer, he needs to either come to that question …</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's time to come to the question.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! Members on my right are going to cease interjecting immediately. The manager is right to raise his points of order in the way that he does; 20 seconds is not a very long time. But Speaker Smith also said, on 22 October 2019:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">… but, as I've said before, both the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition do get some tolerance to compare and contrast.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm glad you've raised Speaker Smith, because I've got a whole lot of his quotes ready to go, which will be great. We can go through all of them! The Prime Minister will continue.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr ALBANESE:</span>
                  </a>  I do thank the member for that point of order, backing us up!</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'll make a couple of points that are pretty clear. The latest RBA data shows: less than one per cent of all mortgage holders are in negative equity. That was point 1. Point 2—guess what? That's less than half of the mortgage holders who were in negative equity under the Liberals in 2017 and 2019—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralInterjecting">A government member:</span>  That's less than half!</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr ALBANESE:</span>
                  </a>  less than half. In April 2019, the RBA reported just over two per cent of borrowers were in negative equity. Unbelievable! This is while median dwelling prices fell by 4.3 per cent between May 2018 and May 2019, with Sydney dwelling values dropping 10.7 per cent over that year.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">No wonder, when they let their housing shadow minister out yesterday, he not only went on to say he was sorry that he didn't do more 'to stop the madness'; he described universal superannuation as 'one of the biggest public policy failures since Federation'. When he was asked whether some low-income Australians will have to accept housing that is substandard, this morning, he said, 'Yes, definitely.' Here's a tricky question he got asked: 'If Angus Taylor can't lift support for the party by the end of the year, will you have to change leaders again before the next election?' Senator Bragg: 'That's really a question for the commentators to get into.' Seriously! Then, when he was asked if he wanted to broaden the base and increase the rate of the GST: 'I wouldn't take anything off the table.'</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Bowen:</span>
                  </a>  He's a moderate!</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr ALBANESE:</span>
                  </a>  And this is a moderate! This is a party that now is not run by this bloke, but run by Tony Abbott. And he's a moderate! Goodness knows! I reckon they should broadcast one of these shadow ministry meetings. It would be pretty entertaining. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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              <name role="metadata">Jarrett, Madonna MP</name>
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              <name role="metadata">O'Neil, Clare Ellen MP</name>
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                  <a href="140590" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms O'NEIL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hotham</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Housing, Minister for Homelessness and Minister for Cities</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:44</span>):  I thank the member for Brisbane for her question. Labor believes that every Australian deserves a safe and decent place to call home, and that's why we have a $47 billion housing agenda, which is delivering real change to the Australian people—260,000 Australians into a home of their own through the five per cent deposit scheme. We're changing the tax system to make sure that the scales are tipped towards first home buyers. We're pulling every lever we have to build more homes for the country, more infrastructure—more tradies and less red tape. That includes work to streamline the National Construction Code after we paused changes following last year's Economic Reform Roundtable.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">You've just heard the Prime Minister talk about the big day out from the shadow minister for housing and homelessness yesterday, and boy was it something—a real wild ride. In a speech one might euphemistically call wide ranging, Senator Bragg covered his views on communism, North Korea, state sponsored corruption and giving superannuation to cats and dogs. I'm not making this up. But his big idea on housing, and the one that I actually really want Australians to hear and understand, is this: the Liberals' answer to housing affordability is substandard housing for Australians on low incomes.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It shouldn't be controversial that Australians should be able to buy a home knowing that it's safe and decent for them and their families, that the walls of that home won't fill with mould, that the balcony won't leak or that the plumbing works. These aren't luxuries. But when asked directly this morning whether some low-income Australians should accept substandard housing, Senator Bragg said, 'Yes, definitely'. He was asked whether homes needed any energy efficiency standard and his answer was that 'you've got to have a window in a room'.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The opposition's been asked, 'How should Australians cope with the freezing winter at home?' And the shadow treasurer had the answer for this one. Get this; he said, 'Put a jumper on.' There's something really familiar to me about the tone here. Remember when Joe Hockey told Australians that, if they couldn't afford to buy a home, they should get a good job that pays good money? Now the coalition says that lower income Australians should settle for a substandard home. 'Just be happy with your window' seems to be the message. Well, old-fashioned snobbery is alive and well in the Liberal Party of Australia, and Labor rejects it completely.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We have a really clear belief: whether you rent, whether you're buying your first home or whether you're wealthy or working class in this country, you deserve a home that is safe and decent and built to last, and that's what our government is delivering for you.</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</title>
        <page.no>56</page.no>
        <type>DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Acknowledgement</title>
          <page.no>56</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Acknowledgement</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>56</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">14:47</span>):  I'm pleased to advise the House that we have Councillor Brett Tessari, the mayor, and Councillor Ron Bauer, the deputy mayor, of Bass Coast Shire Council as guests for the member for Monash in the gallery today. Welcome to question time.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralInterjecting">Honourable members:</span>  Hear, hear!</span>
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    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</title>
        <page.no>56</page.no>
        <type>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</type>
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        <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:WX="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Gambling Advertising</title>
          <page.no>56</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Gambling Advertising</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>56</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ryan, Monique MP</name>
              <name.id>297660</name.id>
              <electorate>Kooyong</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="297660" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Dr RYAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kooyong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:47</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. The AFL and NRL make more than $90 million a year in income from gambling. They partner with gambling companies to profit from the losses of their fans. They pay zero tax on that gambling revenue. Do you think it is appropriate that the billion-dollar sporting codes receive tens of millions of dollars in tax-free income every year from a predatory industry which harms three million Australians every year?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>56</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:47</span>):  I thank the member for Kooyong for her question. It goes to the AFL and NRL, which are two sports that are fantastic sports and can bring great joy to Australians—also the occasional disappointment, some of which can last for 43 years! When it comes to the legislation that is before the parliament at the moment, one of the things it does, and I would hope that there would be some acknowledgement in it, is that clubs, particularly NRL, which currently have sponsorship on their jumpers such as my club, South Sydney, which has Crown; the Brisbane Broncos, which have Star Casino; or Canterbury-Bankstown, which has Laundy Hotels—indeed something like 15 clubs are going to lose revenue as a result of the legislation that is before the parliament if it is carried with amendments next week.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There's also the case that grounds—there's been PointsBet Stadium and a range of grounds as well. So, on top of the issue, which I know has exercised a great deal of discussion about advertising on TV or radio, if you have a stadium that is named and sponsored—such as the one in the member for Mackellar's electorate for quite a while—by a betting organisation, that represents not however many an hour but 24/7 advertising. One of the things that this legislation will do is remove that. We have made it clear in putting this forward that the AFL, to be fair, do not have sponsorship of betting organisations on their jumpers; they have a different internal code. But for the National Rugby League, this will have a major impact on the clubs. We've made it clear that is a really important reform. I do make this point as well about the AFL and the NRL: my club runs Souths Cares, which runs Indigenous programs around rural areas. AFL clubs will sponsor local junior footy as well. There's been a massive expansion of women in AFLW and NRLW and that's a fantastic thing.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>One of the things we need for social cohesion, in my view, is more team sports, kids getting off their devices and onto the fields. The NRL and AFL will play an important role in that. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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        </answer>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Wages and Salaries</title>
          <page.no>57</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Wages and Salaries</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>57</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Gregg, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>315154</name.id>
              <electorate>Deakin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="315154" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr GREGG</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Deakin</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:51</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations. How is the Albanese Labor government supporting higher wages for Australian workers, and what has been the response to this support?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>57</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Rishworth, Amanda Louise MP</name>
              <name.id>HWA</name.id>
              <electorate>Kingston</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWA" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms RISHWORTH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kingston</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:51</span>):  I'd like to thank the member for Deakin for his question and for his commitment to helping Australians to earn more. This Labor government is absolutely committed to delivering for Aussie workers. We've introduced important changes to our workplace laws to get wages moving for hardworking Australians, and we are seeing the results. Just this week, the Fair Work Commission approved world-leading minimum pay for food delivery drivers. From Monday next week, Uber Eats and DoorDash workers will now earn $31.30 per hour as a minimum. This historic outcome was the result of new laws that the Albanese Labor government introduced to ensure that gig workers didn't have to rely on tips to survive.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our government has also taken action to make enterprise bargaining easier, and now 2.6 million workers are benefiting from higher wages through enterprise bargaining. We on this side of the House are determined to close the gender pay gap and that is why we legislated to put gender equality at the heart of the Fair Work Act. This Labor government has backed and funded pay rises for early educators and aged-care workers because we recognised this majority female workforce was being undervalued for the work that they do. And, of course, this Labor government has backed wage rises for our lowest-paid workers on minimum award wages, many of whom are women, each and every year since we've been in government, and we are making progress. Today's ABS data shows the gender pay gap has reached a new record low of 11.3 per cent. Getting wages moving has been a priority for this Labor government. The ABS data today also confirms that Australian workers are, on average, earning an additional $300 per week since our government was elected.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Of course, while this government has been focused on getting wages moving, what have those opposite been doing? Whether it's been Liberals, Nationals or One Nation, they have fought against our reforms every single step of the way. The coalition bragged about deliberately keeping wages low as a design feature of their reforms when they were last in government. The Leader of the Opposition has recently heavily criticised the pay increases for aged-care workers and early educators, and One Nation has repeatedly refused to back wage increases for Australians. We know that Australians are under pressure but it's this Labor government that is— <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Private Health Insurance</title>
          <page.no>57</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Private Health Insurance</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>57</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Pike, Henry MP</name>
              <name.id>300120</name.id>
              <electorate>Bowman</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300120" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr PIKE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bowman</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:54</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. John and Cheryl from my electorate have told me, 'If the cost of living isn't bad enough already, Labor's change to private health rebates is another burden that will add at least $1,000 to our annual health bill.' Prime Minister, let that sink in—an extra $1,000 for an elderly couple already struggling with their bills. Why do Australians like John and Cheryl have to be punished with a new $11 billion tax grab just because Labor can't control its spending?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>57</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Butler, Mark Christopher MP</name>
              <name.id>HWK</name.id>
              <electorate>Hindmarsh</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
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                  <a href="HWK" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr BUTLER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hindmarsh</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Disability and the National Disability Insurance Scheme, Minister for Health and Ageing and Deputy Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:55</span>):  I thank the member for the opportunity to repeat a few things I was able to say yesterday—frankly, about the pretty misleading campaign that the insurance industry is running about the numbers involved here, which the opposition appear to be quite happy to parrot word for word. The numbers just used by the member there are entirely different to the position we've put out very clearly that the average impact of the decision that we announced in the budget would be in the order of $220 to $250 a year—nothing like the figures that the member has talked about.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Prime Minister was asked about why we have done this, and I repeat what I said yesterday, which is to say that we have had to take some hard decisions in this budget. We have a responsible approach to the budget, which seeks to reallocate spending to new areas of need, and, as I think everyone in this parliament and the community knows, there is a growing need for aged-care services in a population that is ageing rapidly. The Minister for Aged Care and Seniors is doing a terrific job in bringing to cabinet proposal after proposal to deliver more beds, more packages of Support at Home and better care to older Australians. And every single dollar that we will save through this change—a difficult change, I admit—will be ploughed back into aged-care services.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">And I'll repeat what I said yesterday. If those opposite are opposed to this—first of all, are they saying they don't support the additional beds? They don't support the additional packages of Support at Home? They want to continue to see older Australians pay for part of the cost of their showers?</span>
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The Manager of Opposition Business, on a point of order.</span>
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                  <a href="210911" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  Once again, the question didn't talk about the opposition. It talked about the private health insurance rebate. John and Cheryl have asked a question about the $1,000 increase, and I think the minister should be brought back to that question.</span>
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                  </span>
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The Leader of the House, on the point of order.</span>
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                  <a href="DYW" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Burke:</span>
                  </a>  It's always been the case that, when a question includes the sort of rhetoric like 'let that sink in'—that sort of language has always opened up a broader definition of relevance.</span>
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Yes. The minister will continue his answer, but he wasn't asked about alternative policies, so, if he's going to talk about the impact that he was asked about—I think it was $11 billion, and I think that's the context that he was referring to. I want him to specifically refer to the funding. If he's talking about projects—he just can't talk about the opposition's policies, because the manager was correct: he wasn't asked about the opposition's policies. But he can refer to the policy that he is responsible for and the funding involved with that.</span>
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                  <a href="HWK" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr BUTLER:</span>
                  </a>  I was asked why we have taken this decision, and I'm reminding the parliament that there are choices that every budget involves. We have made the choice to deliver more aged-care services and more aged-care support at home. Now, others may take a different choice—not to deliver that aged care, or to put it on the credit card. I make no judgement about that.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The impact of this will be to return to the original design of the private health insurance rebate when it was introduced by John Howard, which is not to have a different level of subsidy paid to households on the same income simply because of their age. What we will have now will be two households next to each other on exactly the same income—one of which happens to be over 65 and the other of which happens to be, for example, in their 40s or their 50s, with children—both in private health insurance, receiving the same level of subsidy from taxpayers. For most, that will be about a quarter of their health insurance bill paid for by taxpayers, and that will continue to be the case. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <page.no>58</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Tehan, Dan MP</name>
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                <electorate>Wannon</electorate>
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                <page.no>58</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <page.no>58</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <page.no>58</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Butler, Mark Christopher MP</name>
                <name.id>HWK</name.id>
                <electorate>Hindmarsh</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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          <title>Avian Influenza</title>
          <page.no>58</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>58</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Lawrence, Tania MP</name>
              <name.id>299150</name.id>
              <electorate>Hasluck</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="299150" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms LAWRENCE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hasluck</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:59</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry. What are the latest detections of H5 bird flu in Australia, and how is the government working with industry, the states and the territories to help strengthen biosecurity and the on-the-ground response to this virus?</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>58</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Collins, Julie Maree MP</name>
              <name.id>HWM</name.id>
              <electorate>Franklin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWM" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms COLLINS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Franklin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:59</span>):  I thank the member for Hasluck for her interest in the H5 bird flu. I know that she, like many members in this place, is very concerned. She has been in touch with me, as have many other members in this place. I also thank those members of the parliament who attended the briefing from the chief vet last night in relation to how we are managing the H5 bird flu outbreak in Australia.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The member for Hasluck and some other Western Australian members are particularly concerned about black cockatoos in Western Australia. I'm pleased to update the House that the Western Australian government has today announced a vaccination trial on threatened black cockatoos at Perth Zoo. This will focus on three species—the carnabys, the baudins and the forest red-tailed black cockatoos. I know that many Western Australians will indeed be very pleased to hear that. This is part of our national approach in terms of the rollout of vaccinations that we are working on with the states and territories. It's part of our significant preparedness that we have undertaken, including years of vaccine testing undertaken by the CSIRO specifically for Australian native birds.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">As I said yesterday, the Victorian government has also announced that the little penguins at both Phillip Island and St Kilda will be vaccinated as early as next week. I know that the member for Macnamara is particularly pleased about the penguins in his electorate; he has spoken to me about that, and it's terrific. I know that many Victorian members are pleased that we'll start vaccinating those penguins with the Victorian government next week.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I also want to update the House on a new development today in my home state of Tasmania. Tasmania's state laboratory has returned its first positive result for the H5 bird flu, in samples taken from a brown skua, a migratory bird. It was found at Rocky Cape in the member for Braddon's electorate; I met with her earlier today to talk about her concern about the H5 bird flu in Tasmania. We have sent samples to the CSIRO lab for confirmatory testing and will provide an update to the public as soon as these results become available. If confirmed, this would be the first confirmed case of H5 bird flu in Tasmania—and that will be six states in Australia that have the bird flu. This is not unexpected and I know that it's disappointing, but it is a sign that our biosecurity system is working and our detection system is also working. I'm also pleased to update the House that, today, the Tasmanian government has indicated that it will prioritise the vaccination of orange-bellied parrots, a very special bird that I know many people are aware of.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I reassure the Australian public that we will continue working on our H5 bird flu response, and I reiterate that there is no evidence of any detection of the H5 bird flu in our poultry or agricultural systems and that the risk to human health remains low. I also thank the Australian public for reporting sick and dead birds at birdflu.gov.au.</span>
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          <title>Gambling Industry</title>
          <page.no>59</page.no>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>59</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Watson-Brown, Elizabeth MP</name>
              <name.id>300127</name.id>
              <electorate>Ryan</electorate>
              <party>AG</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="300127" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms WATSON-BROWN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Ryan</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:03</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. Since the gambling reform legislation was introduced, how many times has the Prime Minister met with representatives of the gambling industry?</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>59</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:03</span>):  That's really easy; the answer is zero. I reiterate what I said yesterday. I get that some people come to this issue from different perspectives, but to go to people's motives rather than have a debate about the substance of the issue is, I think, demeaning of the role of this parliament.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the things that I have said is that I would engage across the board with parliamentarians on these issues. Over a long period of time, I've had many discussions with crossbenchers about these issues. I have had discussions with the Leader of the Opposition; I don't think he minds me saying that. He's been in my office more times this week than I went into the Prime Minister's office as Leader of the Opposition in three years. I'm actually prepared to engage across the parliament. I'm sorry if that causes some upset to some behind the Leader of the Opposition, but I must say it hasn't been his attitude which has been constructive.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">These issues are complex. There are issues of foreign engagement as well. The idea that gambling is an issue that just occurs on free-to-air TV or just occurs in one area is just not right. The idea that betting on sports is the major gambling addiction in Australia is absolutely false, as well as the idea that these sporting codes are somehow evil. I reject that. Sporting codes do a fantastic job of engaging young people in particular and being a binding force for people's identity with their local communities and are really important. I think that is something that needs to be acknowledged.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>We'll work through the debate that has taken place in the parliament over the last couple of days. We'll bring that debate to finality next week. People will work through our processes of engaging respectfully with my caucus colleagues. We had a position adopted at our ALP National Conference in Adelaide, which will be reflected in the amendments that will be moved— <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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          <title>AusAlert</title>
          <page.no>59</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>59</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Lim, Sam MP</name>
              <name.id>300130</name.id>
              <electorate>Tangney</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300130" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr LIM</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Tangney</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:06</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Emergency Management. How did the trial of the AusAlert national emergency warning system perform? What other investment is the Albanese government making in emergency management ahead of the upcoming higher risk weather season?</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>59</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McBain, Kristy MP</name>
              <name.id>281988</name.id>
              <electorate>Eden-Monaro</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281988" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms McBAIN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Eden-Monaro</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Regional Development, Local Government and Territories and Minister for Emergency Management</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:07</span>):  I'd like to thank the member for Tangney for his question. What people across this parliament might not know is that the member for Tangney was the 2020 police officer of the year in WA and knows firsthand the importance of having a national warning system. That is important. I also want to acknowledge the member for Maranoa, who was the minister during the royal commission, and I know it's a longstanding position of his that there needed to be a consistent national warning system. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">On Monday 27 July, the Australian government undertook a test of our new national emergency warning system, AusAlert. From Darwin to Geelong, Kalbarri to Bundaberg, millions of mobile devices across Australia received that test alert, and the test was successful, with more than 94 per cent of cell towers broadcasting that notification. It showcased AusAlert's ability to deliver emergency warnings at pace and at scale. AusAlert is potentially life-saving technology. It is a more modern, more capable system that will get emergency alerts to more people in a more timely manner than the existing text-based emergency alert system. AusAlert will be ready for use from October this year. Existing warning channels, including radio, television, social media and, most importantly, community outreach, remain critical during any natural disaster.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But the delivery of AusAlert is another example of our government delivering real change for the Australian people. It builds on improvements that we've already made in emergency management, including the establishment of the National Emergency Management Agency, including the Disaster Ready Fund, which is delivering disaster resilience and risk reduction across the country with 449 projects announced and underway. We've invested more than $100 million in our national aerial firefighting capability to support states and territories to respond to crises, and we continue to invest in the National Emergency Management Stockpile to support the rollout of critical goods and services to communities quickly.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Countries such as France and the United States of America already use cell-broadcast technology as part of their emergency warning toolkit. I'd like to take a second to send our thoughts to friends across Canada, France and the United States, who are currently battling devastating wildfires. A contingent of 185 Australians and 57 New Zealanders departed for the US this week, joining the 74 personnel that are already deployed to support wildfire suppression efforts. A further 40 are in Canada, and a further 28 are in France, supporting our international partners in their time of need.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Australians have some of the finest firefighting capability on the planet, and I know I speak for everyone across this parliament when I wish those personnel a safe deployment and thank them for their bravery and their dedication in assisting others during this very difficult bushfire season.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>60</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:10</span>):  on indulgence—Can I join with the minister in praising our firefighters, who are representing Australia overseas as well. We should be so proud of what they do in Canada, in the United States and in Europe, and we certainly wish them a very safe return. They do our nation proud.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>60</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Taylor, Angus MP</name>
              <name.id>231027</name.id>
              <electorate>Hume</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="231027" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr TAYLOR</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hume</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Leader of the Opposition</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:10</span>):  on indulgence—If I may, Mr Speaker, I want to associate the coalition with those comments. We, like those on the other side of the House, are very proud of our firefighters. Of course, many of us live in parts of Australia where those firefighters play an enormously important role every single year. Many of us, over the course of our time in our electorates, have also participated in the work that's done by our firefighters. We wish them well, and we know they will do us proud.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Albanese:</span>
                  </a>  Mr Speaker, I ask that further questions be placed on the <span style="font-style:italic;">Notice Paper</span>.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>60</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
                <name.id>R36</name.id>
                <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>DOCUMENTS</title>
        <page.no>60</page.no>
        <type>DOCUMENTS</type>
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      <debate.text>
        <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:WX="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">DOCUMENTS</span>
          </p>
        </body>
      </debate.text>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Presentation</title>
          <page.no>60</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Presentation</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>60</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
              <name.id>DYW</name.id>
              <electorate>Watson</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for the Arts, Minister for Home Affairs, Minister for Cyber Security, Minister for Immigration and Citizenship and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:11</span>):  Documents are tabled in accordance with the list circulated to honourable members earlier today. Full details of the documents will be recorded in the <span style="font-style:italic;">Votes and Proceedings</span>.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>QUESTIONS TO THE SPEAKER</title>
        <page.no>60</page.no>
        <type>QUESTIONS TO THE SPEAKER</type>
      </debateinfo>
      <debate.text>
        <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:WX="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">QUESTIONS TO THE SPEAKER</span>
          </p>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Questions in Writing</title>
          <page.no>60</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Questions in Writing</span>
            </p>
          </body>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>60</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Sharkie, Rebekha MP</name>
              <name.id>265980</name.id>
              <electorate>Mayo</electorate>
              <party>CA</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="265980" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms SHARKIE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mayo</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:11</span>):  Mr Speaker, pursuant to standing order 105, I request that you write to the Minister for Aged Care and Seniors seeking reasons for the delay in answering my question in writing No. 169—a 32-day delay—and with respect to question in writing No. 164, asked on 12 May—a 33-day delay.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>60</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">The SPEAKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">15:12</span>):  I thank the member for Mayo. The member for Warringah, on a similar question?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="175696" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Steggall:</span>
                  </a>  No. Mr Speaker, I move that so much of the standing and sessional orders—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  No. I had begun the MPI. So that everyone's clear, when members are seeking to make a personal explanation or put a question, normally they let me know as a courtesy—it's not compulsory—so that I can prepare the order of business. In this case, I had begun the matter of public importance. When people wish to suspend standing orders, they may wish to advise me—that's another courtesy—so I can assist with the running of the House. In this case, I'm going to proceed with the matter of public importance because that's what I had begun to call on before I went to the member for Mayo. I apologise to the member for Warringah.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>60</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Steggall, Zali MP</name>
                <name.id>175696</name.id>
                <electorate>Warringah</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>60</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>MATTERS OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE</title>
        <page.no>60</page.no>
        <type>MATTERS OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE</type>
      </debateinfo>
      <debate.text>
        <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:WX="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">MATTERS OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE</span>
          </p>
        </body>
      </debate.text>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Senior Australians</title>
          <page.no>60</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Senior Australians</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>60</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">15:13</span>):  I have received a letter from the honourable member for Mallee proposing that a definite matter of public importance be submitted to the House for discussion, namely:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The Government's ongoing failure to support older Australians, while imposing an $11 billion tax grab on private health insurance.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I call upon those honourable members who approve of the proposed discussion to rise in their places.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">More than the number of members required by the standing orders having risen in their places—</span>
                </span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>61</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Webster, Anne MP</name>
              <name.id>281688</name.id>
              <electorate>Mallee</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281688" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr WEBSTER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mallee</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:13</span>):  Labor were cunning with the spin when they fooled Australians into electing them into power. Now, in government, Labor are shockers—absolute shockers. The shocking thing is that older Australians are suffering and dying because of Labor's incompetence in government. Labor are trying to cover that up by dividing Australians yet again. This time, Labor are making it about young versus old. They call it 'intergenerational equity'. Give me a break. While Labor talk about intergenerational equity, they are targeting older Australians with an $11 billion tax grab on private health insurance while leaving older Australians waiting for the care they desperately need.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Let me be clear. Pensioners and self-funded retirees live on fixed incomes, and, in many cases, those are not very high incomes. Some of them sacrifice heavily so they can keep up with their private health cover, yet Labor expects them to absorb higher private health insurance premiums. They have no real choice. Older Australians will have to pay more, downgrade their cover or give it up altogether.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Minister for Health and Ageing wants Australians to believe that only 44,000 private health customers will be affected. That claim has been blown apart. National Seniors Australia told me today, based on its July survey, that 400,000 Australians will reduce their level of hospital cover and another 270,000 Australians will drop it altogether. And I might point out to the minister for health that this is not an insurance company; this is the lobby group who work with senior Australians all across Australia—the peak body representing older Australians.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">And where do these older Australians go after dropping their cover? Well, surprise, surprise—they'll end up in the public health system, and that will work so well. Lucky there is no pressure there and it's all working swimmingly! The public health system is already choked up with ambulances ramping, older people unable to be safely discharged and hospitals under enormous pressure. Labor's $11 billion tax grab will simply cost-shift older Australians onto state and territory public health systems. I'm sure they'll be happy about that—the state governments managing their finances so well!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But it's far worse than that. An older Australians might end up in that public health system because they have fallen, had a heart attack or suffered another serious health episode after being stuck at home, getting sicker, waiting for care. So, when we say 'cost-shift' in this House, remember what that actually means. It can mean an older person deteriorating and fading away at home. It can mean an older person ramped in an ambulance. It can mean an older person stuck on a hospital ward. 'Older person' sounds, really, fairly vague—these are our parents. These are your parents. These are everybody's parents, their aunts, their uncles, their grandparents.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is a Labor Party that once stood on this side of the House and called the aged-care system a 'national disgrace'. Yet look at the system on their watch. And what did the health minister say yesterday? The same old broken record—'It's the coalition's fault.' The record is scratched. After more than four years in government, that is all they have got. They are in government. Labor are responsible. And, when Labor get into government, they are not just hopeless; they are negligent. They talk about robotic debt determinations while implementing a system that will robotically determine whether an older Australian gets the care they need to stay alive—algorithms.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I spoke earlier this week about concerns in my electorate, and I look forward to meeting with the Minister for Aged Care and Seniors next week about the untenable situation with Grampians Community Health in my electorate. This is not an abstract policy problem. There are real people behind the statistics. One of them is my constituent Lou Horta. Lou is in his 90s. He is legally blind. He is now in palliative care. He's been waiting for care for 18 months—and he's still waiting. When Lou came to my mobile office in Talbot last week, he held both my hands and told me what he thought about the Albanese Labor government:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I have lived in this country 70 years and have never seen such incompetence.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I repeat: 'never seen such incompetence'. Lou is the human face of Labor's aged-care failure.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The government's own data shows a median wait of around 10 months between Support at Home approval and services actually starting. In regional Australia, it can be significantly longer. National Seniors reports that some applicants are waiting up to 15 months to receive the level of care they have been assessed as needing. These are not just numbers; these are frail, elderly Australians waiting in pain. These are families desperately trying to care for their loved ones. Labor promised Support at Home would fix wait times. Their own data shows it has not.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Even Labor's own people are calling it out. On Tuesday, Labor's aged care minister in Western Australia said the home care scheme had not lived up to its promise and that the lack of access to services was unacceptable. That's a friend of the Labor Party—a person in the Labor Party. In Western Australia, an inflexible assessment algorithm left a person with Alzheimer's and their 92-year-old carer waiting nine months for services. This is outrageous.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Yesterday, the Leader of the Opposition, the shadow health minister and I met with leading health, seniors and patient groups. We heard directly about the real-world impact of Labor's $11 billion hit to private health insurance. They are very worried. They are worried about older Australians already struggling with the cost of living. They are worried about the pressure on public hospitals if more seniors are forced to downgrade or drop their cover altogether. State health ministers in Queensland, Tasmania and New South Wales have also warned that this policy will put more pressure on public hospitals already under strain. Older Australians on fixed incomes are the least able to absorb this price shock.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor is running out of other people's money, so they're going after the limited resources and the limited incomes of self-funded retirees and pensioners. It is scandalous; it is a national disgrace. Labor is failing older Australians; they are neglecting older Australians, and Labor is leaving older Australians without the care they need.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">These are Australians who did the right thing. They worked, they saved, they scrimped, and they paid their own way. They paid for private health insurance because they wanted security in retirement. Some sacrificed a great many comforts just so they can keep their private health insurance. What I find absolutely appalling is that these people have, for decades, put money away for private health insurance. At a time when they need it for a hip replacement, a knee replacement, a cataract—our bodies actually wear out; isn't that amazing—they, who have done the right and responsible thing to ensure that they would have a future that they could maintain their responsibility for, this government is prepared to take money out of their pockets to 'fix' a problem created by this government. It is an absolute disgrace, and the Labor Party needs to own up to its own responsibility.</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>62</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">White, Rebecca MP</name>
              <name.id>224102</name.id>
              <electorate>Lyons</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="224102" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms WHITE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lyons</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Women, Assistant Minister for Health and Aged Care and Assistant Minister for Indigenous Health</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:23</span>):  I'll tell you what's a disgrace, Deputy Speaker: the deliberate scaring of older Australians that is occurring with the comments that have been made by the coalition members on the other side of this chamber and by the shadow minister who just resumed her seat.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The shadow minister has disgracefully scared older Australians by repeating the lines of the insurance industry, stating that there will be an $11 billion hit to older Australians with private health insurance. There was independent modelling released last week and there was modelling released by the Treasury that refutes that categorically. I call on those opposite to be more responsible. Older Australians deserve to be treated with more respect than what they're being shown by those opposite. Older Australians have been prioritised by our government. It was our government, in 2022, that came to power with a commitment to deliver—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Claydon</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Member for Mallee, you were heard in silence. I want to see the same respect awarded to the assistant minister.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="224102" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms WHITE:</span>
                  </a>  It was our government that came into office in 2022 with a clear mandate from the people of Australia to invest in care, to invest in our aged-care system and to invest in our healthcare system. That is what we have delivered—a $47 billion investment in aged care this year that will see more Australians get access to the packages of care that they deserve and more aged-care beds built and delivered right across the country. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is a government that came to office after 10 years of a coalition government that neglected aged care, that cut funding to aged care and that oversaw a royal commission with one word as the title of that report, and it was 'neglect'. You come in here and preach about neglect. How about you look in a mirror and take responsibility for the outrageous way you treated older Australians and the neglect that you showed when you were in government? </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our government has not only prioritised care, taken that to the Australian people and receive their endorsement, but we have delivered on that. We have delivered on increases in wages for our aged-care workforce, who are the people at the very coalface looking after our older Australians. We have invested in a universal healthcare system through Medicare. We have provided greater access to bulk-billing doctor appointments. Just today, 84 per cent of doctor appointments across the country are fully bulk-billed, a significant increase because of the investment our government has made into healthcare. That benefits Australians of every age, including older Australians who can now go to a doctor for free. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We have made 137 Medicare urgent care clinics permanent, providing an option for older Australians, for all Australians of any age, to go and access the urgent healthcare that they need. That was a policy initiative that was designed and delivered by our Labor government. We have provided access to cheaper medicines, an initiative that is benefiting thousands upon thousands of Australians, including many thousands of older Australians who are now able to access the medicines that they deserve. Many of them are now just $7.70, a price that will remain in place until 2030. Our government has provided record hospital funding with the National Health Reform Agreement which concluded this year and sees $219.6 billion invested into our state and territory hospitals right around the country over the next five years. That will include access to elective surgeries.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Now, I don't for one minute deny the fact that there are older Australians who are worried about what the changes to the private health insurance subsidy will mean for their ability to retain their private health insurance. I've met with people in my electorate and I've spoken to them, but I think it's very unhelpful of the coalition to come in here and parrot the lines of industry and continue to scare older Australians.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="291406" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Small:</span>
                  </a>  We're not here to be helpful.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="224102" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms WHITE:</span>
                  </a>  You should be here to be helpful. I'll take that interjection. You should be here working on behalf of all Australians, including older Australians, who expect you to come in here and be constructive. You should be coming in here and thinking about the ways that you can support good policy design and delivery, but instead you come in here and say you want to be oppositional and unhelpful. We have an obligation to be responsible and that is the way that we take our jobs and do it seriously. I would encourage you, through the Deputy Speaker, to encourage those opposite to do the same. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There are Australians who've raised this question with me, and I think it's really important to put some facts on the table. The $3 billion that the government will be able to realise through this change in policy will all go to investing in services for older Australians. It will mean more aged-care beds. It will mean more packages of care. That $3 billion is only going to be used to support older Australians to access the care that they need to deal with some of the challenges the honourable member raised in her contribution. She spoke about wait times. Well, I'll tell you what. They've come down under Labor. She spoke about problems that she's hearing in conversations with her constituents. It's a Labor government that took seriously the recommendations from the royal commission and invested record amounts of money into our aged-care system. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is important to recognise where the money will be going, and it is also important to recognise what the independent modelling and the Treasury modelling tells us. The $11 billion figure that the shadow minister bandies around is very, very different to the independent analysis and the Treasury analysis, and I think older Australians should be comforted by the fact that what the fearmongering opposite is forecasting is, in fact, very different to what Treasury has provided advice to us about. Treasury advice shows that about 44,000 people may choose to exit private health insurance, which is a 0.4 per cent decline compared to current settings. That is very different from what those opposite are saying. The independent research, which was released last week, that I referenced has confirmed that the impact will be minimal. Researchers have said:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">… this reform won't cause a mass exodus from private health insurance, and definitely won't overwhelm public hospitals as some states predict.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We want all Australians to have access to the health care that they deserve. We want our system to be fair and equitable. This is returning to the model that was designed and implemented under former prime minister John Howard, which means that if you take out private health insurance you receive a rebate. I think it's important to put that on the record too, because there's been a lot of scaremongering, where older Australians have heard that they will lose it entirely. That is not true. You will receive a rebate based on income, and for the majority of older Australians that'll be a rebate of about 24 per cent. That is important to note because I think a lot of people have been made to worry unnecessarily and have heard figures in the thousands of dollars that they are supposed to find to maintain their private health insurance, when in fact the Treasury modelling indicates it should be about $250 a year.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I recognise that for some families and for some older Australians that might be a lot of money, but that is also why we've invested in Medicare. We've made it free to see a GP, we've made medicines cheaper, we've invested in the Medicare urgent care clinic network, which provides more people with access to a health professional wherever they live and to not have to worry about the out-of-pocket expense. This has to be seen in the context of our investment in the broader health system. Seeing it in isolation ignores the investment that we are making in other ways and in other complementary parts of the healthcare system.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I recognise that there will be some people in our community who are worried about this and I want to reassure them that we continue to work very closely to make sure this is implemented in a way that is sympathetic. But I also call on the private health insurance industry to be responsible here. I have spoken directly with the private health insurance industry, I've heard their feedback and I ask them that, if they are worried about holding on to those loyal customers of theirs who've paid private health insurance for many years, then why don't they reward those customers by reducing the cost they pay annually?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">One sure way to retain those older Australians in the private health insurance system and to reward their loyalty over many years of paying private health insurance payments would be for those private health insurance companies to offer them a discount. There is nothing stopping them from doing that. Rewarding loyalty would be a surefire way to retain their customers if they value them as much as they claim to, and I believe that they do. So I look forward to seeing how they might respond to that opportunity. The Labor Party and this government take our responsibility to all Australians of all ages incredibly seriously, and we are continuing to deliver a healthcare system that works for everyone.</span>
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                <page.no>62</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>248181</name.id>
                <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <page.no>62</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">White, Rebecca MP</name>
                <name.id>224102</name.id>
                <electorate>Lyons</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
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                <page.no>63</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Small, Ben MP</name>
                <name.id>291406</name.id>
                <electorate>Forrest</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                <page.no>63</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">White, Rebecca MP</name>
                <name.id>224102</name.id>
                <electorate>Lyons</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>64</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Birrell, Sam MP</name>
              <name.id>288713</name.id>
              <electorate>Nicholls</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="288713" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BIRRELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Nicholls</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:33</span>):  When Labor asks us to be helpful, what they're really saying is: 'When we attack a cohort of Australians, don't call it out. Ignore the people who come into your office and say: "Do you realise that my private health rebate is being cut? It's going to affect me badly." Yes, but we can't go into parliament and say anything about it, because we're not being helpful to the government.' We're not here to be helpful to the government with policies like this.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The baby boomer generation has helped build this country. They absolutely have. They were born in the postwar period. They took the opportunities of education in the late sixties. They had to endure the deprivations of the Whitlam government, which must have been very difficult when they were trying to get ahead. They endured the economic transition of the eighties. They endured unfathomable interest rates in the late eighties and early nineties. And they've really worked hard, paid taxes and done a lot to try and build this country.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">They're now getting to their retirement periods—where they're over 65, and some of them are much older than that—and we have an obligation to make sure we look after those people and honour what they have done to build this country and build this economy. One of those things is to make life a little bit easier with a private health insurance rebate, and Labor is now cutting that. For the minister to come in and say, 'The insurance company lobby groups are saying that this is $11 billion or that this is how many people are going to be affected'—it's actually National Seniors, a respected group representing the interests of older Australians. It's clear, under this government, the interests of older Australians need some very serious advocacy, because the government's showing that it doesn't care about them. It's very difficult. We are sitting in electoral offices, and we have people who are probably about my age coming in and saying: 'I can't get a care package for mum and dad. It's been ages. What can be done about it?' We come in and ask the minister for aged care, who I must admit is very good at deflecting questions from the dispatch box—it's impressive to watch, but it doesn't deliver the aged-care packages that should be getting out to people.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We heard from the member for Bowman, who got up and spoke about John and Cheryl in his electorate. He's saying they're going to be about $1,000 worse off. Now, $1,000 out of their budget, when they really need that health care—it's pretty tough for a lot of people, particularly in this cost-of-living crisis that we're still talking about four years after the election of the Albanese government. When is something going to be done about that? To take away some of the protections that were there—a small thing in a health insurance rebate for people who have served this country and paid their taxes—is really mean spirited.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">What's going to happen? That's the next thing. We say that we're going to do it, and we're going to do it because we need to push money to somewhere else in the aged-care sector. If we really got the economy firing with some good policies, we'd probably have more money to put to all sorts of things. How about that for an idea? But what's going to happen? Older Australians will drop their private health insurance, and they will be forced onto the public system. I can tell you the public health system does not need any more pressure. I'm sad to report that I'm a Victorian, but that state is going to make a comeback after 28 November, I'm sure of that. At the moment, the public healthcare system is straining under huge pressures—ambulance ramping and people sitting around in EDs for far too long. If we force a whole heap of older Australians onto that system, it's going to mean poorer outcomes for those older Australians, who don't deserve it, because they've done a lot for this country. It's going to mean poorer outcomes for people who are trying to access that service at the moment.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's probably too late, but I really ask you to rethink this. Think about the people you're affecting. Think about what they did for this country, and show some compassion towards older Australians. If you want to get some home-care packages out in the meantime, that would be great too.</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>64</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Cook, Kara MP</name>
              <name.id>316537</name.id>
              <electorate>Bonner</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316537" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms KARA COOK</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bonner</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:38</span>):  There are more than 25,000 people aged over 65 in my electorate of Bonner. They are the older Australians who are an incredibly important part of the community I have the privilege of representing, so I take supporting older Australians very seriously, and that is exactly why I want to start by correcting the ridiculous scare campaign that those opposite are running today. This motion misleads not only this parliament but the Australian people and the older Australians that every single person on this side of the chamber take very, very seriously in our representations to them.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Those opposite are the only ones who have failed to support older Australians, and they did it for over a decade. Our government is proposing to return the private health insurance rebate for older Australians to the same basis as everybody else—income rather than age. Australians will continue to receive significant taxpayer support for their private health insurance. What changes is that two households on exactly the same income will receive the same level of taxpayer support, regardless of if they are 55 or 75. The money will be redirected to where older Australians need it most. Labor is investing more than $3 billion to deliver more aged-care beds and better care for older Australians. Those opposite know this, but the facts are terribly inconvenient when you've already written the scare campaign.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">When those opposite want to talk about this government's record of supporting older Australians, I am more than happy to have that conversation because Labor's record speaks for itself. Let's start with health care.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Older Australians in my community of Bonner are paying less for their medicines because this government has cut the cost of scripts to just $25. Pensioners and concession card holders continue to pay no more than $7.70, and that price has been frozen until 2030. Across my community of Bonner, more than 2.7 million cheaper scripts have been dispensed, saving people in my community—including older Australians in my community—more than $19 million. Eligible Australians managing ongoing health conditions can also now access 60-day scripts. Those opposite just hated that! It has meant fewer trips to the pharmacy and fewer dispenser fees and fewer trips to the doctor. This government has made record investments in Medicare, with the number of bulk-billing clinics in my community of Bonner doubling. For older Australians managing multiple health conditions, being able to see their GP for free, fill their scripts and go to a Medicare urgent care clinic without worrying about the cost is not optional for those on this side of the chamber; it is absolutely essential. This government is making that care more affordable and accessible.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We also need to talk about aged care, because, when those opposite talk about supporting older Australians, I think Australians are entitled to look at their record. As I've said, those opposite had almost a decade in government, and they left behind an aged-care system so badly neglected that it required a royal commission into quality and safety. That royal commission found serious failures in the treatment and care of older Australians.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor came to government and acted. We required residential aged-care homes to have registered nurses on site, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. We introduced mandatory care minutes, so that older Australians can actually receive the time and attention they deserve. We backed aged-care workers, with substantial wage increases, because you cannot deliver quality aged care while treating people who provide that care as an afterthought. We have introduced a new, rights based Aged Care Act that puts the dignity, choice and rights of older Australians at the centre of the system. We've also rolled out Support at Home to help older Australians remain independent and stay in their homes for longer.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is an absolute embarrassment that those opposite come in here and try to scare older Australians, not only those in my community of Bonner but right across our country. Those in this government are the only ones committed to supporting older Australians, and we will continue to do that every single day.</span>
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              <page.no>65</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Batt, David MP</name>
              <name.id>315478</name.id>
              <electorate>Hinkler</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="315478" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BATT</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hinkler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Nationals Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:43</span>):  I thank the member for Mallee for highlighting this matter as a priority. The fact is: this Labor government has failed, and is failing, our older Australians, and, with an $11 billion tax-grab on private health insurance, they're putting our health system under further stress. Labor is ready to take back the rebate, pocket the money and leave the states to pick up the pieces, as pressure builds further on public hospitals.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">My electorate of Hinkler has the second-highest percentage of people aged over 65 in the country. That is a total of more than 44,000 people, just in Hinkler, doing worse off under this Labor government. An estimated 26,300 of these seniors have taken out private health cover. They are already struggling with the escalating costs of surviving, let alone of living. Labor's reckless attack on rebates will most certainly put excessive pressure on our crowded public hospitals. Now, these people, who pay their private health cover, will be forced to downgrade or to drop their insurance altogether.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">During the winter recess, I conducted an electorate-wide survey, and the interim results are in. One of the many questions in Hinkler's biggest survey was asked of those aged over 65 with private health cover: 'Will you continue with your insurance when Labor scraps your rebate?' The results so far indicate that three in four will stop or, at the very least, consider ending their cover. That's 42 per cent of those surveyed saying they simply can't afford to continue if the rebate is scrapped, and 33 per cent are unsure if they can hold on to it. Even health officials have admitted the government doesn't know how many of the three million older Australians affected are pensioners. However, they concede many older Australians really do value private health insurance. Those who, until now, have been able to pay for private health insurance should be encouraged to do so, because the equation is simple: it takes pressure off the public health system. But the Labor government is punishing older Australians at every single turn.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Take Bundaberg's David Orpin as a prime example, a 68-year-old pensioner and carer for his 91-year-old mother. Both have private health insurance, but Mr Orpin fears the Labor government will force him and his mother to cut back on bare essentials. His minimal carer's payment doesn't cut it when it comes to forking out for rising rates, rego, fuel, food and general health costs. David asked me: how many people will ditch their private health and then be a burden on the public system? And the coalition is asking that question too. Let's support the people who have given our regional communities so much.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Dave's mum, Shirley, is an OAM recipient with lifelong service to our community through Scouts, Rotary and her church. Dave is simply making his case clear to those opposite. In his words, 'I hope you can see that we are doing it tough, very tough.' He said, 'If we give up health insurance, then the government pays for all the bills.'</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In the <span style="font-style:italic;">Senior</span><span style="font-style:italic;">,</span> in the Queensland edition for 3 July, the editor Desiree Savage made these comments:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">… I have never seen so many Letters to the Editor on one particular topic as the proposed cuts to the Private Health Insurance rebate has.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Desiree writes that it is very clear readers of the <span style="font-style:italic;">Senior</span> 'fear they will be forced to go without'.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Again directly from my electorate of Hinkler, Andrew and Isobel from the seaside town of Woodgate tell me that they will have to consider the cancellation of their current policy and to rely on the public health system. They ask, 'It all seems a bit counterproductive, don't you think?'</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Robyn and Len from Bundaberg pondered in an email to me, 'Maybe the Labor government wants us all to just die, and the problem will go away.' The couple went on to say that they worked all their lives and that they deserve better. And I agree. We must give back to the people that have made lifelong sacrifices. These people are in their twilight years, and a fair go is the least we can do.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Wendy is battling breast cancer and has been treated in a private hospital. Wendy said her ongoing treatment will have to come to an end once the cuts come in. She says, 'This Labor policy will break our backs as pensioners and push us into an overloaded public health system.'</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The over-65s in my electorate of Hinkler and right across the nation deserve a fair go. They should not be forced to downgrade or drop their private health cover altogether. But, under this $11 billion tax grab, that is what will happen: Canberra pockets the money while the states are left to pick up the pressure on public hospitals. Labor must scrap this damaging policy because it hurts older Australians and increases pressure on taxpayers. </span>
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              <page.no>66</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ambihaipahar, Ash MP</name>
              <name.id>315618</name.id>
              <electorate>Barton</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  <a href="315618" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms AMBIHAIPAHAR</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Barton</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:48</span>):  I have the opportunity to reflect a little bit on the member for Mallee's comments today in respect of this MPI. Her tone was quite disturbing, and her comments continue division—but this is between the old and the young. I'm tired of this.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The reality is I cared for my grandparents, particularly my grandfather, who recently passed away. During the time when the coalition was in power, we suddenly watched the decline of bulk-billing in the area of Hurstville, which is in my electorate. It is a big issue. Running as the candidate for Barton, I found that being able to access bulk-billing services was a big issue, particularly for older people in my community. That decline was a result of the coalition not investing in health. The reality is, reflecting on the member of Mallee's comments today, particularly those putting down our health system—no-one is saying it's perfect, not at all. But it has taken an Albanese Labor government to invest fully to make it better after a decade of neglect. I'll take the eye roll from the member of Mallee as well. When she talks down the nurses that work at St George Hospital, she talks down the doctors who work there as well. She also talks down the aged-care workers in the aged-care services in my electorate.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281688" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Dr Webster:</span>
                  </a>  That is rubbish!</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="315618" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms AMBIHAIPAHAR:</span>
                  </a>  That came from your mouth. The member for Mallee made it very clear—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  Let's direct comments through the chair. No more interjections from the member for Mallee either.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="315618" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms AMBIHAIPAHAR:</span>
                  </a>  But the reality of her reflections on this particular point of the Australian health system, on the workers in particular, is really damaging. The reality here is that we in the Labor Party have increased the amount of funding, particularly for bulk-billing services, which is great. For the electorate of Barton, we've seen a significant increase of 14 fully bulk-billed services.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298618" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Soon:</span>
                  </a>  In Banks as well.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="315618" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms AMBIHAIPAHAR:</span>
                  </a>  And in Banks as well. I want to reflect on the issue of the MPI, which is about restoring that fairness in the rebate system. This directs much-needed funding to provide that dignity in care, particularly for our older Australians.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor has invested $3 billion in delivering more aged-care beds, more packages and better care for older Australians in this current budget, and it's important to reflect on that because the reality is we saw that neglect over the past 10 years under the coalition. Also, the reality of caring for grandparents—I think it's one of those big challenges for a lot of us, regardless of age; I'm kissing 40—is that it is quite challenging. But it's pertinent to reflect on the fact that having cheaper medicines has been a great achievement for our older community in the electorate of Barton and across Australia. Also the free RSV vaccinations—that life-saving vaccination costs almost $300, and, from May of this year, older Australians didn't have to pay a cent. That's another policy implementation to help our older Australians.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The urgent care clinic in Carlton has been a huge hit, particularly because of a decade of not having bulk-billing services there. It has been well received by people in my electorate. I also wanted to quickly reflect on the PBS—in particular, on medication for older women who are experiencing menopause—and on the expansion of endometriosis and pelvic pain clinics that are quite beneficial for older women in Australia. I'm quite proud of that.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I heard the contributions from those across about funding for hospitals. The Labor government has increased that funding by $25 billion over the next five years through that landmark hospital funding agreement. That is delivering more money for public hospitals across the states and territories.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">More importantly, as a former employment industrial relations lawyer, the workforce is very important, and it has grown. The health workforce had an extra 17,000 doctors joining the Australian health system in the last two years. That's more than any time in the past decade. We're giving students more opportunities and training more doctors and nurses with the largest GP training program in history, and we're giving hundreds of scholarships for nurses and midwives to extend their skills and qualifications.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">While I hear some concerns, particularly about older Australians who are contributing through the private health system, there are also other Australians—older Australians—who don't have the opportunity to pay for that. Those people are coming to the St Vincent de Paul Society for help. The Albanese Labor government has made sure that we invest significantly in health not only for young people but also for older Australians.</span>
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                <page.no>66</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Webster, Anne MP</name>
                <name.id>281688</name.id>
                <electorate>Mallee</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
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                <name role="metadata">Ambihaipahar, Ash MP</name>
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                <electorate>Barton</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">DEPUTY SPEAKER, The</name>
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                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Ambihaipahar, Ash MP</name>
                <name.id>315618</name.id>
                <electorate>Barton</electorate>
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                <page.no>66</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Soon, Zhi MP</name>
                <name.id>298618</name.id>
                <electorate>Banks</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <page.no>66</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Ambihaipahar, Ash MP</name>
                <name.id>315618</name.id>
                <electorate>Barton</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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              <page.no>67</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wallace, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>265967</name.id>
              <electorate>Fisher</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="265967" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WALLACE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fisher</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:53</span>):  I rise in support of the member for Mallee's MPI—and I want to acknowledge the great work that she does in this space—and in support of my friend the member for Hinkler, with the egregious exception of the member for Hinkler's talk about people aged 65 being in the twilight of their years. I am in the twilight of my late 30s—that is what I tell my kids!</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">All jokes aside, this is a very important issue because Australians who've worked hard, paid their taxes and planned carefully for retirement are being asked to pay more and more and more under Labor. The Albanese government wants to impose an $11 billion hit on private health insurance by ripping away the additional rebate for older Australians. Couples aged over 65 with gold cover could be slugged by up to $1,614 extra every year from April 2027. That's a 21.3 per cent increase. For a retiree on a fixed income, that is not loose change; that is groceries, heating, insurance and fuel.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Patricia from Dicky Beach in my electorate is a retired widow living on the age pension. She contacted me. She told me that she and her late husband had made sacrifices all their lives to keep private health insurance because they valued continuity of care and wanted to help keep pressure off the public system. Patricia has worked out that Labor's changes will cost her more than $1,000 every year. She fears that many retirees simply will not be able to afford to keep their cover, and I agree with her. And when they drop that cover they don't stop needing health care. We know that they will go onto the public system. That's why three state health ministers—for Queensland, Tasmania and even New South Wales, a Labor health state minister—have said that this federal Labor policy is going to be disastrous for the state's health systems—</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316551" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Comer:</span>
                  </a>  Don't you mean shadow minister?</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="265967" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr WALLACE:</span>
                  </a>  I'll take the interjection. Even your own New South Wales state Labor health minister acknowledges this.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Independent modelling has found that for every dollar Canberra claims it will save by cutting this rebate the public health system could face around $1.20 in additional costs. Newsflash: that's not a saving, for those on the other side of the House. It's a false economy. It shifts costs onto pensioners, taxpayers and state hospitals. It's robbing Peter to pay Paul. The government's own modelling concedes that at least 44,000 older Australians will drop their cover. That's their own concession, while industry research suggests that more than 250,000 could drop or downgrade. I know which one I am going to believe. When an older Australian drops gold or silver cover, they do not suddenly stop needing a cataract operation or a joint replacement. They end up on the public hospital waiting list—more pressure, longer waits and more ambulance ramping.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">John from Golden Beach in my electorate is feeling the squeeze, too. He's 68. He rents a house and now he's facing higher rents—on his estimates, an extra $60 or more a week—because of this government's recent changes to its tax policies on housing. And now he's going to get slugged more for this private health insurance tax. At the same time, Labor is asking older Australians to pay more for their health cover. Its aged-care system is leaving people waiting months for support that they've already been assessed as needing. The government's own data shows a median wait of around 10 months between approval for Support at Home and services starting. Older Australians can be assessed as needing help to shower, prepare meals, take medication or remain safely at home and then be left waiting month after month after month.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Older Australians deserve better than this hopeless Labor government. After I launched my Stop Labor's Health Tax on Seniors petition I got 9,800 signatures. Go to my website and sign up. I want 200 more signatures, and then I'll take it to the PM.</span>
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                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Comer, Emma MP</name>
                <name.id>316551</name.id>
                <electorate>Petrie</electorate>
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                <page.no>67</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Wallace, Andrew MP</name>
                <name.id>265967</name.id>
                <electorate>Fisher</electorate>
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              <page.no>68</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Soon, Zhi MP</name>
              <name.id>298618</name.id>
              <electorate>Banks</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <a href="298618" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr SOON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Banks</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:58</span>):  Older Australians have worked hard to build this country and shape our nation. They deserve our respect and care. Across the health and aged-care sector, this government has had to pick up the pieces left behind by the former coalition government and do the hard work of building systems that are capable of supporting Australians, particularly older Australians, well into the future.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to start by looking at access to health care and medications. Unlike some, this government recognised that bulk-billing rates were in decline and that investment was required to protect access to GPs. When the government made its first record investment in bulk-billing it was to triple the incentive for pensioners and concession cardholders—a cohort mostly of older Australians. Additionally, while this government has lowered the cost of PBS medications to the lowest level in more than 21 years, it also extended the $7.70 freeze for pension and concession card holders until 2030. That's right—2030. In my community, the cheaper medicines program is delivering—more than two million scripts filled and more than $12 million saved. Further, the government is taking the action needed to ensure that systemic neglect exposed by the royal commission is never allowed to happen again.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The budget earlier this year delivered $3 billion in new investment for more aged-care beds, more packages and shorter wait times for older Australians. The government is also moving to ensure the sustainability of the residential aged-care sector, through targeted capital subsidies. The government will deliver an extra 5,000 beds a year. This is before we get into new investments for more Specialist Dementia Care Program units and capital assistance to build new residential aged-care facilities, ensuring older Australians get the appropriate high-quality care that they deserve.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The government also recognises that older Australians want to live independently at home for as long as possible. The new Support at Home program delivers $4.3 billion of investment to create a system that delivers a high quality of care and enshrines the rights of older Australians in law. This government recognises that, if we want a high quality aged-care system, we need to invest in the people who make it possible. When Labor first came to government, we promised that we would back our aged-care workers and fight for a pay rise that recognises the value of the work that they do. Labor made supportive submissions to the Fair Work Commission, and we delivered $18 billion to implement the landmark 15 per cent wage rise for aged-care workers.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">While this government is delivering, those opposite are only about division and the politics of grievance. When it comes to looking after older Australians, they never mention that a registered nurse is on site in aged-care homes more than 99 per cent of the time—a measure they said would force homes to close. They never mention the 7.1 million extra minutes of care that are being delivered each day. They never mention that median assessment wait times are now under a month. They never mention that more than 80 per cent of aged-care homes now have a four- or five-star rating, when it was barely 50 per cent under their side, or any of the other measures and successes that myself and my colleagues on this side of the House have already outlined. While this government will keep delivering for older Australians and making sure they get the respect and care they deserve, those opposite will keep pedalling scare campaigns and stoking division.</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>68</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Rebello, Leon MP</name>
              <name.id>316547</name.id>
              <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316547" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr REBELLO</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McPherson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:03</span>):  I've spoken on this subject a number of times in this place, but it's clear that the government didn't listen then, and they're not listening now, from listening to some of those speakers opposite, so I will speak to it again. This motion goes to the government's ongoing failure to support older Australians while imposing an $11 billion tax grab on private health insurance. All of us on this side of this chamber have engaged with our communities. We've spoken to the older Australians that we're supposed to represent in this place, and we've actually heard what they have been thinking and what they feel about this. I've received thousands of emails from thousands of people who have reached out to me or to my office to raise the impact that this will have on them and on their future. That's right—thousands. We had over 2,000 who completed my survey in the first 2½ weeks. If you'd like copies of those, I'm happy to provide them to you, for those calling out. I'll read some out to you. Patricia from Mudgeeraba—</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Government members interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316547" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr REBELLO:</span>
                  </a>  The nerve of those opposite to interject on this is ridiculous. It just shows you disrespect for older Australians. Patricia from Mudgeeraba said:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">Where do you think we are going to get any extra money from? Have already had to sacrifice House and Car insurance and cannot afford certain food items. Seriously !!!!!!</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Lorraine from Burleigh Heads said:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">I believe it is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING that this abhorrent Labor government is robbing older Australians to cover up their lack of fiscal understanding and knowledge. It's obscene that people—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">And this is clear—</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">that have worked and saved and paid taxes throughout their working lives and continue to be taxed by ATO standards, are now paying STEALTH taxes. Because they are old. Aged Care changes recently implemented, makes the term (Aged Care) a complete misnomer. There is no care from this government for anyone other than themselves and their cronies.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Christine from Palm Beach said:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">At 72, I feel betrayed by the government. We're trying not to be a burden on society but we may have to be now. We've worked hard for over 50 years—myself as a nurse and my husband as a chef and raised 2 kids and saved hard for retirement. This is like a slap in the face for our contribution. All the insurances have increased and food and electricity skyrocketing. We feel we are paying the price for this terrible government.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">And older Australians are. We've seen this time and time again. Samuel from Reedy Creek said:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">This change confirms that Labor has no concern for those who have reached a later stage of life but who have made every effort to bear a share of the costs of the health services necessary for a fair society.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">They've done the right thing. They've done exactly what government asked them to do for so much of their working career, and now the rug is being pulled out from under them. That's not only incorrect; it is wrong, it is mean and it is unfair.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I heard the previous contribution from the member opposite, and he spoke about us on this side stoking division on this. He spoke about us stoking division. The ones on the government side of this chamber are the ones who are dividing Australians. They're dividing older Australians from everybody else. You cannot say that you are trying to unite—</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316551" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Comer:</span>
                  </a>  Mis- and disinformation coming out from those opposite.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  The member for McPherson has the right to be heard.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316547" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr REBELLO:</span>
                  </a>  It's really striking a nerve for them because they're embarrassed. This is their families. This is their parents. This is their grandparents that they're affecting, and they should be embarrassed. I'm going to read them some more because I think they'd benefit from it. Anthony from Coolangatta said:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Things are tough enough as it is.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Glen from Berleigh Waters said:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">If responsible fiscal management was done by the Fed Govt they wouldn't have to hit retirees to help balance their budget.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">That goes to a key point. Every discussion that we're having in this place is about the government's inability to manage the economy. So what are they doing? They've got no idea for how to grow the economy, no idea for how to grow the pie, so instead they're finding pockets in our economy of people who have done the right thing. They've worked. They've saved. They've invested. They're thinking, 'Okay, we will take their money and we will use it to cover up our economic incompetence.'</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">There are hundreds and thousands of these stories across the country that have reached out to members of parliament on this side of the chamber. I'm sure they're sitting in your inboxes, members opposite, as well, and I encourage you to read them.</span>
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                <page.no>68</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Rebello, Leon MP</name>
                <name.id>316547</name.id>
                <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
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                <page.no>69</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Comer, Emma MP</name>
                <name.id>316551</name.id>
                <electorate>Petrie</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <page.no>69</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">DEPUTY SPEAKER, The</name>
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                <page.no>69</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Rebello, Leon MP</name>
                <name.id>316547</name.id>
                <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>69</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Cook, Trish MP</name>
              <name.id>312871</name.id>
              <electorate>Bullwinkel</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  <a href="312871" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr TRISH COOK</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bullwinkel</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:08</span>):  I feel like the fifth speaker for the affirmative side in a high school debate. Some of the selective points that the opposition has made—look, I'm sure we all want the best for old people. Some of us are even old ourselves. as the member pointed out. In my electorate of Bullwinkel, over 31,000 residents are over the age of 65. That's 20 per cent of my community, and it's probably the same for you. We all want to provide them with real support to stay safely in their homes and to have dignity when entering the residential aged care system if they do. Labor is delivering that respectful, dignified aged-care system that older Australians across Bullwinkel and right across Australia truly deserve. That's the area of common ground.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I would like to remind the House that I do have firsthand understanding of the physical, the clinical and the emotional realities of aged care and the toll that the decade of neglect in this area under the Liberal and coalition government took on both residents and staff. As a nurse with decades of experience on the front line, I think I can bear witness to some of the great things we're doing that have really turned things around. The ship is turning, so let's just outline a few things that we've done: a $25 billion landmark public hospital funding agreement; strengthening Medicare; increasing bulk billing; 137 urgent care clinics around Australia, including three that are available to the people of Bullwinkel; cheaper medicines, which cannot be underestimated in the daily cost of living, particularly for people over 65; more medicines on the PBS; free RSV vaccinations; the $7.70 freeze on medication scripts—and that's not even the aged-care system yet, so let's get to the aged-care system. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We're reforming the aged-care system, the home care support and the residential aged-care system. We've introduced the integrated assessment tool, which has reduced waitlists, with median assessment times of 10 months now down to one month. That's huge. That's huge for somebody that's got a package and needs that. That's providing a fairer system. In the aged-care system, we're also looking after the staff. We've legislated to make registered nurses 24/7 in aged-care nursing homes. That's $18 billion in wage boosts. We're improving the wages paid to nurses. We've given five consecutive wage increases. For a registered nurse, like me, working in aged care, that's $36,000 extra a year that that we're delivering, and for enrolled nurses it's $32,000. We're going to retain the staff to provide continuity of care, better care and dignified care in those aged-care settings. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I also want to give a shout-out to Minister Butler and Minister Rae in aged care. They listened to us when we told them that the integrated assessment tool and the prioritising of packages needed tweaking. They listened and they changed it. I visited Barry in his home, who's since passed away, unfortunately, from motor neurone disease. They listened, and they changed the aged-care rules regarding urgent priority care so that people with MND both over and under the age of 65 will now be considered the same and have priority for at-home support packages. These are brilliant things for aged care. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Yes, we are cutting down the rebate they're getting, so they're getting a 24 per cent supplement on private health care, the same as young people. It's the same for all of us. If you're in similar income streams, why should a younger person have to pay more for private health insurance than an older person? In fact, I'm sure that young people would argue that things are a lot tougher for them now. We have had a balanced approach to aged care and we're providing dignified aged care. </span>
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              <page.no>70</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>248181</name.id>
              <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms Claydon</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">)</span> (<span class="HPS-Time">16:12</span>):  The time for this discussion has concluded. Member for Mallee, are you seeking the call on indulgence? </span>
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              <page.no>70</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Webster, Anne MP</name>
              <name.id>281688</name.id>
              <electorate>Mallee</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mallee</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:13</span>):  I am. Thank you, Deputy Speaker. I'd like to make a personal explanation. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  Okay, member for Mallee. </span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Dr WEBSTER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Barton made statements in that MPI that I degraded nurses and aged-care workers, or words to that effect. That is absolutely untrue in every sense, and, of course, <span style="font-style:italic;">Hansard</span> can be checked for what I actually said. I want to put on record that I absolutely respect—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  No. There's no debate. You've made the correction, and I'm very happy that it's on the record. </span>
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          <title>Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>70</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026</span>
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            <page.no>70</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">"whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(1) notes that: </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(a) next year, university students will be paying over $54,000 for standard bachelor's degrees; and</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(b) this bill fails to address the unfair and punitive funding arrangements introduced under the Job-ready Graduates Package; </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(2) calls on the Government to exercise powers under the <span style="font-style:italic;">Universities Accord (Australian Tertiary Education Commission) Act 2026</span> (Cth) to:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(a) immediately advise the Australian Tertiary Education Commission (ATEC) that reviewing the funding arrangements introduced under the Job-ready Graduates Package is a short-term, urgent strategic priority; and</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(b) immediately issue written directions, by legislative instrument, requiring the ATEC Commissioners, in carrying out the Commission's functions, to prioritise providing advice and recommendations to the Minister on options for reforming the funding arrangements introduced under the Job-ready Graduates Package".</span>
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                <page.no>70</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Wallace, Andrew MP</name>
                <name.id>265967</name.id>
                <electorate>Fisher</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WALLACE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fisher</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:14</span>):  There are real problems in higher education. No-one should pretend otherwise. There are concerns about quality, student experience, workforce shortages, artificial intelligence, antisemitism and social cohesion on campus, international student numbers, access for students in the outer suburbs and in the regions, and the position of private higher education providers. The coalition recognises that a future government may need stronger tools to respond to these problems. For example, powers over international student allocations could be used to align international education with national capacity in housing, infrastructure and services. Powers attached to public funding could, if appropriately designed, be used to require stronger standards on antisemitism, social cohesion and institutional accountability. A more flexible pathway for Commonwealth-supported places could assist private providers in priority workforce fields, and place allocations could be used to support regional and outer-suburban opportunity where it is genuinely needed. Those are legitimate objectives, but good objectives don't automatically justify unlimited powers. The question for this parliament is whether the bill gets the balance right between national stewardship, institutional autonomy, student choice, accountability and parliamentary oversight.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">On the evidence already received by the Senate Education and Employment Legislation Committee, there are significant reasons to doubt that the bill has that right balance. Universities Australia, the peak body for Australia's universities, says:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">The Bill shifts significant decision-making authority to the Minister and the ATEC, with many of the framework's most important features left to Guidelines, non-disallowable instruments and administrative decision-making rather than primary legislation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Universities Australia supports the broad direction of reform but recommends passage only with substantial amendments. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">QUT, my old university, makes the point even more directly. It says:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">The case for the Bill's funding reforms is clear. The case for these extraordinary Ministerial powers has not been made.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">QUT warns that a measured delay to improve the bill would be preferable to legislation that permanently weakens university governance, autonomy and parliamentary scrutiny.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">UniSC, in my electorate of Fisher, also provided a submission. They are in general support of the bill's objectives but they also warned that a centrally managed system may fail to keep pace with local population growth, workforce need and student demand. Now, as one of the members for the Sunshine Coast, many students tell me—in fact, I was at Chancellor College just recently—that moving away to study under this government's cost-of-living crisis is just not a realistic option. Travel, accommodation costs, caring responsibilities and lost income mean that, if a local place is unavailable, university may simply be unavailable to them.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">UniSC rightly argues that decisions cannot be made solely from Canberra using lagged data; they must reflect local knowledge, local demand and the needs of high-growth communities just like mine. If we want more young people in Fisher to study locally, uniSC needs the certainty to plan, invest and grow with our community. I want to send a shout-out at this opportunity to Helen Bartlett, the vice-chancellor. She is doing a great job at uniSC as she embarks, on behalf of the university, on developing our very own medical school that the member for Fairfax and I worked so very hard for 10 years to develop with Griffith University. The time has now come for UniSC to have its own medical school, and the member for Fairfax and I will be continuing to push that very hard.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Most of the submissions raise legitimate concerns, including excessive ministerial discretion, insufficient transparency, weak parliamentary oversight, threats to institutional autonomy, rigid allocation settings or risks created by the overenrolment penalty regime. The bill's treatment of the Australian Tertiary Education Commission deserves particular attention. Labor presents ATEC as an independent steward, but independence from the sector is not the same thing as independence from the executive government. ATEC commissioners can be removed by the minister where their performance has been unsatisfactory for a significant period—terms which are not defined. ATEC cannot employ its own staff. It relies on APS staff made available by the department. It cannot independently engage contractors or consultants. It must have regard to ministerial priorities, and it remains subject to ministerial directions. These things should be ringing alarm bells in the broader education community. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">More concerningly, the bill creates additional avenues for the minister to influence international student allocations, including by specifying matters with which ATEC must comply and by directing it to consider varying provider-level allocations. It is a body which may administer decisions but is structurally constrained by the executive by design—by this Labor government's design. The international student provisions require particularly close examination. Universities Australia states in its submission that the minister should set the broad framework but ATEC should make provider-level decisions independently according to transparent criteria. It also argues that the international allocation framework should be subject to independent statutory review. The coalition will examine those proposals seriously before we reach a position on these.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There's also a fundamental practical concern with the new managed-growth model. Under the current system, universities can enrol more students than the Commonwealth directly funds. They do not receive additional Commonwealth funding for those students, but they can retain the student contribution. That system is not perfect, but it has allowed universities to respond to genuine demand and educate more students using the same taxpayer contribution. This bill treats that flexibility as overenrolment and imposes a financial penalty. It changes a capped-funding model into a capped-places model. Why should parliament penalise an institution that educates more Australian students for the same taxpayer contribution? Universities have warned that the likely response will be more cautious offers, higher entry thresholds, early closure of applications and fewer opportunities for capable students.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill's fiscal claims also require a clear explanation from the minister. The minister's public pitch has referred to $3.6 billion over a decade and 230,000 additional places, yet the explanatory memorandum refers to $2.5 billion in additional net funding over 11 years from 2024-25 and 200,000 additional commencing domestic students over the decade. Those are not trivial differences. Where does the additional $1.1 billion come from? How did an additional 30,000 places appear? Why do the MYEFO papers refer to $2.5 billion over 11 years while the minister now promotes $3.6 billion over a decade? Was the new funding included in the budget? Was it being offset, cut or repurposed to pay for it? What protections exist against a funding announcement today becoming an unfunded liability tomorrow?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Parliamentary Library's Bills Digest notes that the $2.5 billion MYEFO measure was partly offset through $16.4 billion in repurposed funding and efficiencies over 11 years. That makes transparent scrutiny of the government's new claims all the more important. The bill's needs based funding provisions also need closer scrutiny.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The principle of better support for First Nations students, low SES students and regional delivery is sound. The coalition supports genuine opportunities for Australians who have historically been locked out of higher education, but the practical operation of the scheme will turn heavily on ministerial guidelines, eligibility criteria, modifier amounts, regional classifications, conditions of grant, and expenditure rules. Adelaide uni says important policy settings are left to guidelines, and recommends a legislative requirement for genuine consultation before they are made or varied.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is exactly why the committee process matters. Parliament should not be asked to sign a blank cheque and discover the real scheme later, in guidelines drafted behind closed doors in ministerial offices. The coalition will approach this bill constructively but not casually. The coalition will make its final decision after the work of the committee is complete. Our standard will be straightforward: does this bill expand opportunity without centralising— <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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                <page.no>72</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Ryan, Joanne MP</name>
                <name.id>249224</name.id>
                <electorate>Lalor</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms RYAN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lalor</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Chief Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:26</span>):  The name of this bill, the Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026, says it all. It speaks to this Labor government's intent and it speaks to this Labor government's motivation. It says everything about what we stand for. We stand for opening doors of opportunity. We stand against baking in disadvantage. I think this is a fitting title. At its core, this legislation is about ensuring that opportunity is given to all those across the country who have the capacity, the talent and the ambition to reach for it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia has never lacked talent. Communities like mine in Lalor prove that every single day. It's a community where people don't lack ambition, and they deserve every opportunity to realise it. This bill recognises that simple truth because we on this side of the House understand the impact that education can have on an individual's life. We understand how it changes lives. We understand how it can change communities. The member for Gellibrand sits here with me in the chamber tonight. He and I between us represent the city of Wyndham. Nowhere is it more tangible than to see what it means when people aspire and are supported, and how people's ambitions can be lifted just by being in classrooms with people who strive to, and want to, have more.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This Labor government understands that. We understand how that ambition and aspiration can change a community, can change a school, can change our country and can change an economy. That's why this government aspires for a higher education level for all Australians, not just because it's good in itself—although it is—but because our economy will demand it. We need to have more educated Australians into the future, to ensure that we can maintain the economy that we're so proud of.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Two years ago we released the final report of the Australian Universities Accord. Since then, we've implemented more than 30 of the accord's 47 recommendations. From cutting 20 per cent of HECS debts and introducing paid prac—and then extending that as late as this week—to doubling the number of university study hubs, Labor's vision is one that recognises that Australia's future prosperity depends on the education system we build today. I stand by that—in early education, in school education, in TAFE, in free TAFE and in higher education. That means a higher education system that is larger, smarter, fairer, focused on the future and open to all.</span>
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        <page.no>72</page.no>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">ADJOURNMENT</span>
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              <span style="font-weight:bold;">The DEPUTY SPEAKER (</span>
              <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Claydon</span>
              <span style="font-weight:bold;">):</span>  It being 4.30 pm, I propose the question:</span>
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            <span class="HPS-Small">That the House do now adjourn.</span>
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          <page.no>72</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Small Business</span>
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              <page.no>72</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Le, Dai MP</name>
              <name.id>295676</name.id>
              <electorate>Fowler</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="295676" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fowler</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:30</span>):  Small businesses are the backbone of our communities and our economy. I have said that in this House many times and I will keep saying it until this government acts on it. My electorate of Fowler sits across two council areas, Fairfield and Liverpool. Between them there are close to 50,000 registered businesses. The overwhelming majority of them are small businesses. Behind every single one is a hardworking family, many of whom are first- and second-generation migrants who arrived here with nothing and built a life over generations. For them, a business is not just a livelihood; it is independence, it is security and it is the reason their children have choices they never had.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our sector is as diverse as our people, from the family owned Vietnamese fruit shop near my office to Trooper Lu's motorbike garage in Moorebank, to Farage, which is the tailoring house that still cuts and sews in a factory in Surrey Hills and supplies uniforms to the Royal Australian Navy, the Australian Army and the Royal Australian Air Force. They tell me that work is now being reduced. Different industries and different suburbs but the same reality: rising costs, power bills, insurance, rent and red tape. They are doing it tough, and too many feel abandoned by this government.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Last month, I introduced a private member's bill to put Australian businesses first in Commonwealth procurement. It would prioritise Australian businesses in Commonwealth tenders and require at least 30 per cent of Australian content procurement for selected Commonwealth projects.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Each year, the Commonwealth spends billions on goods, services, construction and technology. That purchasing power belongs to the Australian people and it should be used to back them, to let local businesses invest with confidence and take on apprentices and to strengthen the supply chains that keep our communities moving. Farage shows exactly what that looks like: a Commonwealth contract, an Australian factory, Australian workers and Australian wool. Yet that is the work now being reduced. An Australian factory supplying our own defence force—and the orders are going the other way. If this Commonwealth will not back Australian manufacturing for its own uniforms, why exactly will it?</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Too often our businesses are shut out and forced to compete with multinationals and cheap imports on price alone, and price alone never counts the jobs we lose, the skills we lose or the sovereign capability we give away. Instead of using procurement to back Australian industry broadly, this government has leaned on its Future Made in Australia agenda, with $22.7 billion over a decade directed at renewable energy, critical minerals and green manufacturing, which is largely to attract foreign investment.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Let me let me be clear: I'm not against clean energy or investing in new industries, but a future made in Australia cannot mean a future made in only a handful of chosen industries. What about the businesses already manufacturing here? What about textiles, which is an industry that was once central to Fairfield and Liverpool that gave work to thousands of migrant women in my community? They did not wait for a government package, yet many are being squeezed out while billions are being directed elsewhere.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">So I ask this government three things: bring my bill on for debate; strengthen the Commonwealth Procurement Rules so Australian content is a requirement, not an afterthought; and report to this parliament on how much of that spend actually reaches small businesses in regions like mine.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The people I represent are not asking for handouts. They never have. They are in the kitchens and the bakeries before four in the morning. They are still behind the counter at 10 at night. Their children do their homework at the back of the shop. They employ their neighbours and they are the reason our high streets are still alive. They're asking for a fair go at the work their own taxes are paying for. The least this parliament can do is buy what they make.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Data Centres</title>
          <page.no>73</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Data Centres</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>73</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Watts, Tim MP</name>
              <name.id>193430</name.id>
              <electorate>Gellibrand</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="193430" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WATTS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Gellibrand</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:33</span>):  There are plenty of Australians who hate the idea of data centres being built in Australia at the moment. For many people, they are the physical embodiment of everything that they're worried about with the arrival of AI. Others are worried about the local impacts of a specific data centre that's being built or proposed for the community that they live in. The development of AI and the rollout of the data centres to support it is a big change. It's happening around the world, and it's natural for people to feel anxiety about it. But, while the world is changing, we can't afford to hide under the bed. We can't just hit the stop button and hope for the best as the world moves on around us. We need to take control and shape these changes in Australia's interests, to take control so that Australia can benefit from the upside of AI while protecting our community from the potential downsides. That's why, earlier this year, our government announced a set of expectations for large AI data centres and why the Prime Minister has announced that we will be delivering a set of binding Australian standards for AI. As the Prime Minister said, 'This is about Australia shaping the future, rather than letting the future shape us.'</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">If we get this right, Australia has everything it needs for Australians to realise the benefits of AI: the smartest minds, the biggest renewable energy opportunities, proximity to Asia and a predictable and reliable legal system buttressed by a robust democracy. Australia is home to some of the world's best healthcare researchers, and access to AI and computing power in Australian data centres can help them make life-saving medical breakthroughs. AI and Australian computing power can enable cutting-edge scientific research on some of the most complex challenges we face. </span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia's first university led AI supercomputer, MAVERIC, from Monash University, sits in the CDC data centre in my electorate in Melbourne's west. Australian scientists are using it for research on cancer, infectious diseases and antimicrobial resistance, and new medicine discovery, as well as enhanced skin cancer detection, simulation of star and planet formation and analysis of Antarctic imagery for environmental modelling. AI and Australian computing is also vital to ensuring that Australia's defence forces and security agencies are able to keep up with the rapidly evolving and increasing challenges they're confronting to keep us safe.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Australian standards for AI will ensure that all Australians are able to benefit from these opportunities while being protected from the potential harms. Australian standards for AI will set clear rules for the construction of data centres, including where they're built and the power and water they use. They will include a legal obligation for the next generation of large-scale data centres to underwrite new power supply. They'll be required to cover their full share of grid connections so no costs are passed on to homes or businesses. We'll create an obligation for these data centres to build new renewable energy generation and to put at least as much energy into our grid as they take out of it, and we'll require data centres to minimise their water use and pay for any additional water infrastructure required.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Many current and proposed data centres across Australia already meet these requirements. I know this from my own experience of the data centres in my electorate, in Truganina, Laverton and Brooklyn. I've followed the construction and operation of these data centres closely, and a number of them have now been operating for years. I can't recall receiving a single complaint about them since they started operation, and I'm certain that I've received more complaints about the abattoirs, chemical manufacturers and trucking and shipping container parks that operate in the surrounding industrial areas. These data centres create less smell, less dust and less traffic than the existing industrial land uses in this area, and they support good jobs in our community. Nearly 4,000 jobs have been created in the construction of the Australian owned and operated CDC Laverton data centre. I've spoken to the workers and unions on site, and I know they're good jobs with good conditions. Once it's finished, it'll support 1,750 ongoing roles in our community—jobs for locals who don't have to drive to the CBD to do them.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Best practice data centres, like the CDC data centres in Brooklyn and Laverton, utilise an advanced liquid cooling system to maximise their water efficiency. They use a single volume of water which is continuously recirculated. That means the Brooklyn and Laverton data centres don't use any water for cooling. They're some of the most water efficient data centres in Australia and New Zealand. The result of innovations like this is that Australian data centres account for just 0.04 per cent of Australia's total water use. Public swimming pools use six times more; golf courses use 10 times more. Last financial year, Australian data centres consumed 3.9 terawatt hours of electricity, around two per cent of Australia's national energy market consumption. They've supported 1.5 terawatt hours of renewable energy generation per year and have invested $3.1 billion in grid infrastructure, and they'll invest a further $7.2 billion in grid infrastructure by 2030.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Done right, data centre rollouts can help fund our renewable energy transition, bring down costs for consumers and improve the reliability of our grid, but only if we take control of our future instead of hiding under the bed. We're not America. We want to manage AI and data centres the Australian way. That's what the Albanese government is doing.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Taxation</title>
          <page.no>74</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Taxation</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>74</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Buchholz, Scott MP</name>
              <name.id>230531</name.id>
              <electorate>Wright</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                  <a href="230531" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BUCHHOLZ</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wright</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:39</span>):  I rise to support the freeze that's in place on the excise for draught beer, and I call for it to be extended for a further three years. It's a sensible measure that's providing some welcome relief to pubs, clubs and their customers at a time when cost-of-living pressures are hurting Australians. Across my electorate of Wright, we have around 30 pubs and taverns. They are businesses and they're employers, but, more importantly, they're also part of our local communities. They're part of the social fabric of our community and will sometimes be the first employer of a kid leaving school. They support local suppliers, sporting clubs and community organisations. They are places where people can come together after work for a few beers with their mates to catch up. They're places for families to congregate and places for people to catch up for local fundraisers. In many of our small towns, the local pub remains one of the great meeting places for its communities.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The importance of this industry to Australian jobs and communities should not be underestimated. It directly employs around 176,000 full-time-equivalent jobs across the country, including around 22½ thousand manufacturing jobs, 21,000 in retail and more than 126,000 in hospitality. In Queensland, major breweries, such as XXXX and CUB, support local manufacturing, transport and supply-chain jobs as well. These are not just numbers; they're actually workers, families and small businesses whose livelihoods depend on a strong and sustainable hospitality industry. Supporting our pubs, clubs and restaurants means supporting Australian jobs and the local economies and communities that rely on them being cornerstones in the community.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Remember running a pub is not easy, and I know this because I was a publican. We had a pub in Mackay. We managed a place called the Eimeo. I can tell you they're early starts and late finishes, and it really hones your communication skills, particularly when you're communicating with a person who's had a few. You've got one personality at the beginning of the day and potentially a different personality at the end of the day. It's great training for coming and working in the parliament.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">On top of that, beer excise has been continuing to increase automatically with inflation twice a year. If there's anything that we have learned from the failures of the tariff increases on cigarettes it's that, at some stage, the price point gets so expensive that it pushes the market underground so that those undesirables sneak into the market and sell a product much cheaper, and there is no benefit that is derived from having the tariff excises in place. Putting a freeze for a further three years on the beer excise is a great place to start, but we think that we should go further and give serious consideration to possibly making that freeze permanent.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">At some point, we need to ask ourselves whether automatically increasing this tax every six months is still the right approach. A permanent freeze would provide greater certainty for publicans, help take pressure off prices and support the thousands of Australians whose livelihoods depend on hospitality. The hospitality and the alcohol industries support a significant number of Australian jobs, from brewers and transporters through to pubs and restaurants and the retail sector that goes with them. These are real jobs, many of them in regional Australia, like my electorate. I mentioned earlier on that I have no less than 30 pubs and taverns.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is not simply about the price of beer. It's about keeping the way of life for Australians. I think I've come up with a policy name for freezing the tariff, and I think we should call it Scotty's shout. I think it's going to resonate with Australians. We're going to work towards freezing the excise on alcohol or three years and call it Scotty's shout. The punters in my electorate are going to love it because it's just the Australian thing to do.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I caught up with Jeff over at Gatton the other day, and I said, 'Mate, if you were the Prime Minister for the day, what would you do?' He said, 'I would freeze beer excise.' Jeff, this one's for you, champion. When I talk to my local constituents, know that you are heard.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Far North Queensland</title>
          <page.no>75</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Far North Queensland</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>75</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Smith, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>312393</name.id>
              <electorate>Leichhardt</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="312393" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr MATT SMITH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Leichhardt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:44</span>):  I came out of a meeting on Monday and checked my phone and had a missed call from none other than the former member for Leichhardt, a good friend of yours, Speaker. As far as I can tell, he rang me up to tell me how good the weather in Cairns was—25 degrees, not a breath of wind and the water was dead flat. He was having a very good day, but Cairns and the Far North are more than just good weather. The mid-winter break is kind of a misnomer, because there is no break. We go home to our electorates and we get out amongst it.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I went up to Bamaga where I saw new homes being built. I heard the stories of the families who are going into these homes. Two homes have been built on Mabuiag Island—the first time homes have been built there for 20 years. It's really exciting!</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Minister Tony Burke came to Cairns and we got rid of those stupid yellow forms that they hand to you on aeroplanes. The first time I travelled overseas I was 16. I went to the States on a basketball tour. I came back on an overnight flight, coming back from LA—I don't fit in planes very well; I was this big then—and they handed me a form. I'm like, 'What is this?' I couldn't find a pen. I couldn't find my passport. I wasn't sure where I was staying in Melbourne. The whole thing was very confusing. We're getting rid of that. It has been trialled by Qantas; 450,000 people have used it already. We're going to roll it out over the next couple of years, just in time for the Brisbane Olympics.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Deputy Prime Minister came through to Leichhardt. He went to Thursday Island where he sat with the elders but also got to meet the people of 51st Battalion, the Sarpeyes, Charlie Company. Torres Strait is unique. During World War II every single eligible man, bar 10, signed up. And what were the 10 left behind to do? Those were the 10 bravest men; they were left behind to guard the islands. Every single person from the Torres Strait—man, woman and child—is related to a veteran. That's really something to think about.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm looking forward to heading up to Weipa on the cape to meet the 51st Battalion Bravo Company. Some of the work that they do is exceptional. I look forward to meeting with them and bringing their stories back here to parliament.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Minister Clare came up, as well as Minister Giles, and we've got the sod turned on the start of CQ University. This is going to be a fantastic addition to the southern end of Grafton Street. It has been a vacant spot of land for years. It was even vacant back when I was doing my radio show. Soon it will be a bustling university with 6,000 places for students in allied health, pharmacy, radiography, radiology, nursing, physio, OT, speechies—the works—all benefiting from paid prac. We are building our medical workforce in Cairns.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We opened the Yeinie building, named for one of the ancestors, for the 'king of Cairns'. At the Yeinie building, which is part of JCU, they're teaching doctors and nurses. We're building a regional medical workforce in Cairns. That's something to be proud of. That means people will stay home.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">On Thursday Island, with Minister Giles, we went to visit the Thursday Island TAFE. It opened just a few years ago. There we met Ash. Ash is completing his diploma in nursing. He will be in the first cohort to graduate from that TAFE as an enrolled nurse. Throughout my time on the Cape and the Torres Strait, in the half decade or so that I've been working up there professionally, the thing that I've heard most of all is, 'We want to be able to grow our own.' The opening of this TAFE allows for that. Ash's family is very proud. He's looking forward to walking the halls of the Thursday Island Hospital and making a difference in his community.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is a vote of confidence in what the Far North is and what the Far North can become. These are investments not only for the now but also for the future. In 10 or 12 years, when those GPs start coming out of the Yeinie building, they'll go to places like Cooktown and Weipa. They'll visit Aurukun and Lockhart. They'll set up practices in Mossman, Port Douglas and Kuranda. They will be people who understand the area, they will be people who love the area and the people in it, and I know that they'll give their all.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm proud to be part of a government that supports the regions, and supports the Far North in particular. I would encourage the school groups, which have just left but hopefully they'll come back soon, to enrol in Kids for the Reef, a subsidised program to get people to enjoy our very own Great Barrier Reef.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Albanese Government</title>
          <page.no>76</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>76</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Caldwell, Cameron MP</name>
              <name.id>306489</name.id>
              <electorate>Fadden</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="306489" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CALDWELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fadden</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Opposition Chief Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:49</span>):  Sadly, the Australian standard of living has collapsed under this Labor government. It has fallen further and harder than any other developed economy in the world. The indicators of this are things like 15 interest rate rises under this Labor government since their election in 2022. The indicators are the inflationary pressures and the inflation that's still well outside the target band that the RBA wants to try and achieve. And it's indicated by every basket of groceries that has less and less in it for the hard-earned dollars of every Australian. Our country must change course. We cannot continue under this Labor government. During the cold winter here in Canberra, I was moving around the electorate talking to locals and understanding these pressures. When I was in suburbs like Ormeau, Pimpama and Coomera, the message was exactly the same: we must fix this mess.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The coalition is putting forward a positive plan. We know what it takes to fix Labor's mess because we've done it before, and we will do it again. The time has come for a coalition government to yet again fix our country's direction. We must fix the economy and protect the Australian way of life, and the only way we can do this is by getting to the heart of the issues that are confronting the Australian people and the Australian economy. We must lower the taxation burden that each and every Australian feels. We must wind back those toxic taxes that were delivered in the budget this year, those broken promises on CGT and negative gearing that we've seen have an immediate impact on the property market.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We are a nation that is rich in energy possibility. But, under this Labor government, we are poor in energy because we are so unprepared to utilise the natural resources that we have here and we are so unprepared to see an abundance of energy that would drive the cost down. That must change.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In the portfolio area that I work in—housing—we know what has happened over the last four years. Out-of-control migration has seen pressure on the number of houses available for all Australians. The Labor government has had a delusional target of 1.2 million homes over five years, with no substantive plan to deliver on that promise. I am sure that, at the end of that time, we will see yet another broken promise from this Labor government. The housing minister, while she was in Home Affairs, was hopeless with home affairs, and now she is hopeless with homes. Sadly, those migration pressures and the under-delivery of the housing market have meant that there is far too much pressure on our population. Only the coalition has a plan to tie the number of migrants able to come into our country to the amount of housing we can deliver, so that everyone has the genuine Australian experience of being able to own a piece of our great nation.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, we must put Australians first in every way. I'll give you one example in housing. In 2023, this government deliberately passed an instrument that removed the words 'Australian citizens' from its five per cent home deposit scheme, opening the floodgates. We must protect the opportunities that are here in our great nation for Australian citizens first and foremost—and when we can afford to do so, we can open up. We must change the course of our nation. At the moment, it is heading in the wrong direction. Only the coalition has a plan to fix the economy and protect our way of life.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Braddon Electorate: Medicare</title>
          <page.no>77</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Braddon Electorate: Medicare</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>77</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Urquhart, Anne MP</name>
              <name.id>231199</name.id>
              <electorate>Braddon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms URQUHART</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Braddon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:54</span>):  I want to talk about the Burnie Health Hub and how it's strengthening Medicare for our region and right across the north-west of Tasmania. The Burnie Health Hub is a powerful example of what can happen when local vision, skilled health professionals and federal Labor investment come together for the benefit of our community. The Albanese Labor government committed over $8 million to help deliver the Burnie Health Hub, complementing our work to strengthen Medicare, improve access to care and make health services more affordable for people right across Braddon. The hub already hosts the Burnie Medicare urgent care clinic, giving locals access to walk in bulk-billed care for urgent but not life-threatening health needs. Over 6,000 individual consultations have already occurred at the UCC, including myself on Easter Sunday. The hub will soon also become the permanent home of the Burnie Medicare Mental Health Centre, providing free, welcoming and accessible support for people seeking help with their mental health. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">What makes the Burnie Health Hub so special is the mix of services coming together under one roof. Alongside urgent care, the centre is home to a pathology service. It will have a playgroup. Laurel House, a sexual and family violence counselling service, moved in a little over a week ago. Women's Legal Service Tasmania also moved in, and other community groups are all getting ready to move in very soon. With a bus stop right out the front, it's becoming a genuine community hub that's easy for Burnie residents to reach.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I recently hosted Health Minister Mark Butler in the electorate, where he met some of the wonderful and amazing health professionals in Burnie who are not just innovating but investing and delivering great services for local people. We have gastroenterologists, pharmacists, pathologists, sonographers, physiotherapists, ophthalmologists and other allied health professionals who are helping transform what is available in the region. We have our gastroenterologist who built himself the Tasmanian Digestive Centre, his own day hospital. Just over the road from there, we have fantastic ophthalmologists, including a very credible ophthalmologist who has worked in the field for many, many years, not only dealing with people's eyes but actually diagnosing and assisting people with much more serious health conditions. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Having these services in Braddon matters. It means existing residents can access more of the care that they need much closer to home, almost right on their back door, without the cost of having to travel to Hobart or to Melbourne. It also gives people considering moving to our beautiful part of the north-west coast greater confidence that their health needs and the needs of their families can be met locally. This work is complemented by the great things that are happening at the University of Tasmania's Cradle Coast campus, where rural general practice and nursing students can now train much closer to home, build careers in the region and stay connected to the communities they are from and that need them. My colleague the member for Leichhardt talked about training people in our regions and them being able to stay there. We know that when that happens they actually stay in the region, instead of going away and not coming home. We actually have our own home-grown specialists within our areas who want to live and work and play where they grew up and have family support.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">For everyday Australians, this is part of a bigger Labor plan to make health more accessible and affordable. In my electorate, 68 per cent of GP practices are 100 per cent bulk-billing, and the local bulk-billing rate has reached almost 95 per cent. That's 95 per cent of people who go to the doctor and do not have to pay a gap fee. People across the region have saved almost $13 million on 2.7 million prescriptions through our cheaper medicines. The Burnie Health Hub shows just what is possible when government backs local leadership and invests in regional healthcare. Only Labor will keep making that real difference to accessible and affordable healthcare in Burnie, right across Braddon and right across our regions throughout Tasmania.</span>
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                  </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">House adjourned at 16:59</span>
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        <title>NOTICES</title>
        <page.no>77</page.no>
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          <title>Presentation</title>
          <page.no>77</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">The following notices were given:</span>
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                <span style="font-weight:bold;">MR</span> Burke: That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent the following from occurring on Tuesday, 18 August 2026:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(1) immediately following the second reading of the Interactive Gambling Amendment (Gambling Reform) Bill 2026:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(a) the bill being considered in detail and taken as a whole, with any detail amendments to be moved together as, one set for the government, one set for the opposition and one set per crossbench Member, unless a Minister requires otherwise, and:</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">(i) one question being put on any government amendments;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(ii) one question being put on any opposition amendments;</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">(iii) separate questions being put on any sets of amendments moved by crossbench Members; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(iv) a separate question being put that the bill [as amended] be agreed to;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(b) debate on any amendments provided for under paragraph 1(a) being limited to up to ten minutes for each question unless a Minister requires the debate to be extended;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(c) at 5.30 pm, if consideration of the bill has not concluded, any amendments circulated [that have not been considered] being treated as if they had been moved [together] by the Member proposing them, unless a Minister requires otherwise, and all questions required to complete the detail stage being put immediately; and</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">(d) the question being put immediately on the third reading;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(2) immediately following proceedings on the Interactive Gambling Amendment (Gambling Reform) Bill 2026, the order of the day for the resumption of the debate on the National Self-exclusion Register (Cost Recovery Levy) Amendment Bill 2026 being called on and:</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">(a) any second reading amendments circulated being treated as if they had been moved by the Member proposing them;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(b) the questions being put immediately on any second reading amendments and on the second reading of the bill;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(c) the bill being considered in detail and taken as a whole, with any detail amendments circulated being treated as if they had been moved [together] by the Member proposing them, with:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(i) one question being put immediately on any government amendments;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(ii) one question being put immediately on any opposition amendments; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(iii) separate questions being put immediately on any sets of amendments moved by crossbench Members; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(iv) a separate question being put that the bill [as amended] be agreed to; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(d) the question being put immediately on the third reading;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(3) immediately following proceedings on the National Self-exclusion Register (Cost Recovery Levy) Amendment Bill 2026, the order of the day for the resumption of the debate on the News Journalism Payments Bill 2026 being called on and a cognate debate taking place with the News Journalism Payments (Consequential Amendments) Bill 2026, News Media Bargaining (Administration) Bill 2026, News Media Bargaining Charge Bill 2026 and the Treasury Laws Amendment (News Media Bargaining) (Consequential) Bill 2026, and proceedings on the bills having priority until 7.30 pm;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(4) at 8 pm, notwithstanding standing order 31, the adjournment debate being interrupted, and debate on the News Journalism Payments Bill 2026 and four related bills having priority:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(a) until the bills have proceeded through all stages; or</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(b) 10 pm; or</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(c) a later time specified by a Minister prior to 10 pm;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">at which point, the House immediately adjourning until 9 am on Wednesday, 19 August; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">(5) any variation to this arrangement being made only on a motion moved by a Minister.</span>
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                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Clutterham</span> to move:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) acknowledges the significance of the recent signing of the Australia-Vanuatu Nakamal Agreement; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) notes that this broad ranging partnership reflects:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the meaningful relationship between the people of Australia and Vanuatu, which is built on a desire to support Vanuatu's critical infrastructure development and economic aspirations;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) the collaborative motivation to build climate and natural disaster resilience for the benefit of both people of Australia and Vanuatu; and </span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) the recognition that when the security and sovereignty of Australia and Vanuatu is supported, the Indo-Pacific region enjoys greater stability and prosperity;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) affirms the Government's strategic commitment to continue to continue to deepen Australia's security and economic relationships with our Pacific family and Indo-Pacific partners to strengthen the foundations for ongoing and sustainable regional peace and prosperity.</span>
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                <span style="&#xA;    color:#FFFFFF;&#xA;  ">Federation Chamber</span>
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                <a href="" type="">Thursday, 13 August 2026</a>
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                <span style="font-weight:bold;">The </span>
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">(</span>
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Sharkie) </span>took the chair at 09:30.</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Line"> </span>
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            <a href="Federation Chamber" type="">Thursday, 13 August 2026</a>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">The </span>
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        <title>CONSTITUENCY STATEMENTS</title>
        <page.no>79</page.no>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">CONSTITUENCY STATEMENTS</span>
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          <title>Veterans</title>
          <page.no>79</page.no>
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              <page.no>79</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Haines, Helen MP</name>
              <name.id>282335</name.id>
              <electorate>Indi</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
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                  <a href="282335" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr HAINES</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Indi</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:30</span>):  No veteran should have to fight their own government to access the health care that they've already earned. But veterans in my electorate, and across the country, are deeply concerned about the government's proposed $5,000 cap on Department of Veterans' Affairs allied health services. Allied health care is a crucial part of their recovery, rehabilitation, long-term health and wellbeing. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In this year's budget, the government committed to increasing provider fees for veterans allied health services. The Royal Commission into Defence and Veterans Suicide identified low DVA fees as a barrier to veterans accessing care, and I really welcome action to address that. Unfortunately, though, the government is fixing one problem while potentially creating another. Alongside the fee increase, the government is introducing a $5,000 annual spending cap on allied health services. The cap replaces the existing 12-session treatment cycle. Many veterans will appreciate not having to get multiple referrals for chronic and lifelong conditions. But, for too many veterans, $5,000 will simply not cover everything they require. The government has confirmed that there will be a mechanism to spend more than $5,000 where there is valid clinical need. They've described the cap as a 'threshold for review', but the problem here is that we've got no clarity about what that means. Who will decide whether someone's medical needs are valid and on what basis? How long will it take? What information will be required? How much additional paperwork will this create for veterans and their healthcare providers? It's understandably causing significant concern for veterans who rely on allied health treatment to stay well. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">My electorate of Indi is home to more than 5,000 current or former Defence Force members, including Major Geoff Robinson, who recently retired in Wodonga after 43 years of service. Major Robinson put it to me very clearly:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">For veterans living with chronic pain, traumatic brain injury or post-traumatic stress, allied health is essential treatment, not a discretionary benefit.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Veterans should not have to jump through hoops in order to access the treatment they need and are entitled to. If the government are not willing to scrap the cap, at the very least they must consider raising the threshold to a more appropriate amount and they must guarantee a quick and simple review process with no interruptions to ongoing care. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consultation on the changes is about to commence, and I urge DVA to work constructively and collaboratively with veterans, their families, their communities and allied health professionals. Major Robinson said:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">I believed that when the country asked us to serve, it would stand behind us in return.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I don't think he was wrong. In Australia, we're proud to look after those who fought for us, and I call on the government to uphold that commitment.</span>
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          <title>Lingiari Electorate: Community Events</title>
          <page.no>79</page.no>
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              <page.no>79</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Scrymgour, Marion MP</name>
              <name.id>F2S</name.id>
              <electorate>Lingiari</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lingiari</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:33</span>):  On Sunday 19 July, Imalu Tigers took on the Ranku Eagles in Wurrimiyanga on my beautiful home community of the Tiwi Islands. In the women's match, Tapalinga Superstars and Jikilarruwu went head to head in a fantastic match, with my team, Tapalinga Superstars, coming home victorious. The Tiwi grand final is the highlight of the year for my mob. It's a time when we come together to celebrate our culture and our great love of football. For our communities, football is more than just a game. It showcases our people, our athleticism, our community connection and our deep pride in who we are. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This year we also got to celebrate with a very special guest, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese. Also in attendance were the member for Solomon and Minister Malarndirri McCarthy. There are few people Tiwis would be willing to draw their eyes from the football for on grand final day, but the PM was one of them. The Prime Minister's visit was a huge moment for my people, but, more than that, it demonstrates his deep and personal commitment to our remote communities.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">On the Saturday before the grand final, Tiwis also celebrated the Tiwi Islands Cultural Festival. For anyone who wants to witness the incredible culture of the Tiwi Islands, this is the place to come. Tiwi culture has always kept our people grounded, and each year the festival grows from strength to strength. This year was a particularly beautiful display of our art, music, culture and the industries on the Tiwi Islands. This could not have happened without the Tiwi Cultural Committee, who do so much work in preserving and making sure our language and our culture stay binded. I also want to acknowledge the hard work on Wurrimiyanga from the Tiwi Islands Regional Council, particularly the new CEO, Heidi Dorn, who's done a fantastic job, and amazing staff on the ground who made it possible.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I just want to finish my constituency statement today in thinking about the funeral that will take place for Kumanjayi Little Baby on the weekend, and I want to acknowledge the strength of the Alice Springs community in coming together, and the family of Kumanjayi Little Baby—her grandfather, her grandmother and her mother, Jacinta; I'm sending my deep love and prayers—for your leadership and your messages of unity, particularly the grandparents in calling for everyone not to be divided. This isn't a black and white issue. This is about community coming together and staying strong. Our community must again come together to ensure that Kumanjayi Little Baby is given the respect and the rest that she so deserves.</span>
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          <title>Wentworth Electorate: Community Volunteers</title>
          <page.no>80</page.no>
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              <page.no>80</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Spender, Allegra MP</name>
              <name.id>286042</name.id>
              <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SPENDER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wentworth</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:36</span>):  Today I want to pay tribute to a remarkable Australian, Bob Montgomery. Bob and his grandson, Tom, recently rode more than 5,000 kilometres, from Broome to Bob's home town of Bowral to raise awareness of motor neurone disease. This was Bob's sixth charity long-distance ride, having previously crossed the country multiple times to raise funds for MND New South Wales. After 41 days on their bikes, Bob and Tom arrived at Bowral  on 2 August, having raised more than $127,000. But, sadly, Bob passed away shortly after.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I had the privilege of meeting Bob and Tom before they set off, and I was struck by Bob's humility, his kindness and his extraordinary tenacity in deciding to do a month-long bike ride at 82 years of age. He spoke plainly about the heartbreaking impact of MND on people he had known, and he simply wanted to do what he could to make a difference. That is such an important Australian spirit: seeing a problem and just wanting to help other people. I have no doubt that he did help them, and not just those who supported him along the way but all Australians living with MND who may benefit from the research and funding that Bob's efforts helped enable.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">To his wife, Jenny, and his grandson, Tom, and all his loved ones, I extend my sincerest condolence for your loss. And I encourage everyone to visit bobmontgomery.com.au to support his legacy. Thank you, Bob.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I would also like to recognise some of the other individuals in our community who've made an extraordinary contribution. Earlier this week I was fortunate enough to attend the ceremony of the Sydney City/Eastern Suburbs New South Wales Volunteer of the Year Awards. In particular, I want to pay tribute to Bondi Beach Surf Lifesaver Robyn Farmer, who was named Volunteer of the Year in honour of her years of service as well as her courage and calm in responding to the Bondi Beach terrorist attack that occurred on 14 December. She is someone who did her work not because she wanted the accolades but because she again wanted to help her community that she is so proud of.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Likewise to the COA Bondi Support Meals Team and the 215 volunteers, who were awarded Volunteer Team of the Year for the work they did in the aftermath of that attack. Again, these people—at a time of enormous concern, grief and heartache—turned that energy and that heartache into making a difference and caring for other people and brought enormous comfort at a time of great uncertainty and grief. Thank you for the work you did at that hardest moment.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Tanya Coleman was awarded Adult Volunteer of the Year. She does incredible work at in the Randwick netball space. I know that so many of my community spend their time there at Randwick netball, and we're very grateful for the work that she and others do. I'll finally mention Ffyon McCabe, for Young Volunteer, and Susie Elelman for Senior Volunteer. Thank you to everyone for their work, and congratulations to everyone who was nominated. It was an outstanding celebration of what our community cares about, which is looking after each other. </span>
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          <title>Burt Electorate: Employment</title>
          <page.no>80</page.no>
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              <page.no>80</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Keogh, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>249147</name.id>
              <electorate>Burt</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  <a href="249147" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr KEOGH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Burt</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Veterans' Affairs and Minister for Defence Personnel</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:39</span>):  The Albanese Labor government is building an Australia where hard work pays off and there's more opportunity to get ahead. More jobs are being created under our government—more than ever in a single term—and wages are going up too. Since we were elected in 2022, minimum wage workers are taking home some $12,000 more a year. In our community, the work of our government to create jobs and opportunity has made a massive difference, with unemployment at its lowest in the last 15 years.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Every person should have the opportunity to get a well-paid, secure job. It can be life changing, and that's why we're working to give more people that chance. This month, I spoke to graduates of a recent Job Ready course run in our community as part of our $10 million Local Jobs, Local People grants program. Programs like this are breaking down barriers faced by jobseekers, giving them the training and support they need including connecting with local employers.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Creating local jobs has been a double win for Burt. A project like the Armadale train line upgrades and extension to Byford sees good jobs created locally and leaves a lasting legacy for Perth's south-east—a 46-minute journey from Byford to the CBD that costs only $2.80 on a SmartRider card. And more transport projects are now under way. The Tonkin Highway extension and the Thomas Road upgrades are massive construction projects employing locals and, when they're complete, will mean faster and safer journeys with less freight moving on local roads. Further up Tonkin Highway upgrades are also under way to the Hale Road and Welshpool Road intersections for freeway-style interchanges. Early works for these are happening at the moment. They are a double win: well-paid local jobs on projects to benefit our community and projects that will save you time on the road. All these projects and more to come, like the widening of the Kwinana Freeway, are not just building a better Burt but they're employing our community.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">If you want the skills to be part of building our community, we're backing you too, with more than 100 free TAFE courses that over 123,000 Western Australians have benefited from. Along with making free TAFE permanent, we're backing tradies too, with a $10,000 incentive for new housing construction apprentices to help them finish their training and get on with the job of delivering the new housing that we need here in Australia. It's all part of building a better Burt and delivering real change for Australians.</span>
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          <title>Warringah Electorate: Small Business</title>
          <page.no>81</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>81</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Steggall, Zali MP</name>
              <name.id>175696</name.id>
              <electorate>Warringah</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="175696" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms STEGGALL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Warringah</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:42</span>):  Small businesses are the backbone of Warringah. Warringah is home to around 8,000 small, employing businesses and another 12,000 sole traders, but many are being squeezed by rising insurance premiums, energy bills, rents, wages, supplies, cybersecurity costs and weak consumer spending. Small-business owners are often working longer, paying themselves far less and absorbing costs they cannot pass on without losing customers. </span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I've repeatedly raised these pressures in this place. Small businesses do much of the heavy lifting in our economy, and too often they are treated as an afterthought by government. For Warringah's tradies, couriers, mobile service providers and delivery businesses the fluctuating price of fuel is adding to operating costs. Much more needs to be done to assist business in electrifying and reducing their energy and transport costs, yet local businesses continue to innovate despite these headwinds. Brookvale based Alchemy Charge is building the digital infrastructure that enables electric vehicle charging in strata buildings. More than 4.2 million Australians live in strata communities, but many cannot easily charge an electric vehicle at those locations. Alchemy Charge is finalising Strata Assist, a national platform designed to help apartment residents and strata communities overcome the approval and practical barriers to installing charging. This is exactly the kind of locally grown innovation Australia should be helping to scale.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The government has finally made the instant asset write-off permanent in this recent budget, providing businesses with some certainty, but the $20,000 threshold remains far too low to address all of those pressures and headwinds that I named earlier. It should be increased to at least $50,000 so businesses can actually invest in productive equipment, cybersecurity, solar, batteries and low-cost electric vehicles.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Small businesses also need to be paid on time. Nearly one in three large businesses took more than 30 days to pay their small-business suppliers last year. Cash flow is essential in a small business. Small businesses should not be forced to act as interest free lenders to much larger companies, and the government can start by setting that example in its own processes. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, staffing remains a critical issue for many small businesses. Any discussion of slashing migration amounts must be assessed against the real impact to industries and areas of business, especially across small business. What I hear about too often in meetings with chambers of commerce and businesses are the challenges, delays and complexity of getting sponsored visas and the delay and uncertainty which makes it impossible for them to plan ahead. Warringah small businesses are resilient, innovative and ambitious, but the government must do more to reduce unnecessary costs and improve their cash flow and operating business environments. </span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Welcome Cultural Services</title>
          <page.no>81</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Welcome Cultural Services</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>81</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McKenzie, Zoe MP</name>
              <name.id>124514</name.id>
              <electorate>Flinders</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="124514" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms McKENZIE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Flinders</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:45</span>):  Today I rise to celebrate the opening of a renewed multicultural centre in Launceston, Welcome Cultural Services. This is much more than a refurbished building. It's a place where people are welcomed, supported and given the confidence to participate fully in our community. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to acknowledge the staff, volunteers, community leaders, families and partner organisations who have made this centre what it is. Buildings can be renovated with bricks and with paint, but centres like this are built by the people who work in them. They are built by the volunteer who sits beside someone as they practise the sentence that they are nervous to say out loud, by the staff member who helps a family understand a form, enrol a child, prepare for work or navigate a completely unfamiliar system and by the person who makes sure someone feels a little less alone on their first days in a new country.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I do have a personal connection to this organisation. A few years ago I volunteered with a program helping adults to learn the English they needed to participate in local work and business, and what stayed with me was their determination. Starting again is not easy. Learning another language as an adult, particularly English, is not easy. Building a new life often far away from family, friends and everything familiar takes real courage. But when people are supported, they thrive. When people are welcomed, they contribute. When people are given confidence, they build confidence in others. Our whole community is stronger because of it.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian government contributed $2 million towards this project, helping transform the Harmony building into a modern and accessible hub for culturally and linguistically diverse communities right across Launceston and northern Tasmania. Between 3,000 and 5,000 people each year are expected to use this centre through workshops, events, partner programs and essential services. That means thousands of moments where someone is told in very real and very practical ways 'you are welcome here'. At a time when difference can too easily be presented as something to fear, this centre tells a much better and stronger story. It tells us that hearing another language spoken in our streets is not something to be anxious about. It tells us that a child growing up speaking more than one language has not lost something. They have gained something. It is a strength. It tells us that helping someone learn English is not about asking them to leave their first language or their culture behind. It's about giving them another key to work education, services, friendship, independence and confidence, and that's the kind of community I want northern Tasmania to be, one where people are proud of where they've come from and confident as to where they're going. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Welcome Cultural Services give practical expression to those values every single day. It says to newly arrived families, 'we will help you find your feet'. It says to young people, 'your culture is not something that you should be ashamed of. It is something to be proud of'. And it says to our seniors, 'you are not alone'. To everyone at Welcome Cultural Services: thank you for the work that you do. To every person who walks through these doors: your stories matter. Your culture and your languages are respected and your contribution makes northern Tasmania stronger.</span>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Private Health Insurance</title>
          <page.no>82</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Private Health Insurance</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>82</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Pike, Henry MP</name>
              <name.id>300120</name.id>
              <electorate>Bowman</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300120" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr PIKE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bowman</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:48</span>):  During the winter break, I spent a lot of time talking with locals in my electorate in the Redlands. Hundreds attended community coffee catch ups that I held in Birkdale, Cleveland and Coochiemudlo Island. I knocked on hundreds of doors and spoke to many at local shopping centre visits. But wherever I went, one issue came up time and time again—Labor's cuts to the private health insurance rebate.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">For many older Redlanders private health insurance isn't a luxury. It's something they've paid into for decades. They have sacrificed to take pressure off public hospitals and often made tough decisions around the kitchen table to keep their cover. Now Labor wants them to pay more. The Albanese government is pressing ahead with cuts to the private health insurance rebate for Australians over 65. It says this is about fairness between generations, but the reality is that older Australians are simply going to be facing higher costs.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In the Redlands, there are 23,169 people over the age of 65 with private health insurance. Together, they account for more than 23,000 hospital admissions every year. Every one of those people who keeps their private health cover helps ease pressure on an already stretched public system. The government argues these cuts will save money, but the department's own actuarial modelling suggests the opposite. It found that, while the Commonwealth would save around $481 million, the resulting increase in demand on public hospitals would cost governments around $547 million. In other words, taxpayers end up paying more, while patients wait longer.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">These cuts come after another round of premium increases and during a cost-of-living crisis that is already stretching household budgets. National Seniors has warned that some older Australians could end up paying more than $1,000 each year to keep the level of cover they already have. Three million Australians are expected to dump their private health cover as a result of this policy. Thousands of Redlanders have done the right thing by maintaining private health insurance and helping to take pressure off our public hospitals; now they're being penalised for making that sacrifice.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Stephen from Victoria Point wrote to me, 'The message that Labor is sending to young Australians is that they're better off not saving, not investing and certainly not taking out health insurance, but rather relying on government handouts.' Paul from Alexandra Hills told me: 'The government has kicked me in the guts with this insult to older Australians. Only Labor could deliver a policy that will create higher costs for older Australians and longer waiting lists and still somehow manage to cost the taxpayer far, far more.'</span>
              </p>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Ballarat Electorate: Infrastructure</title>
          <page.no>82</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Ballarat Electorate: Infrastructure</span>
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          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>82</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">King, Catherine Fiona MP</name>
              <name.id>00AMR</name.id>
              <electorate>Ballarat</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="00AMR" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CATHERINE KING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Ballarat</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:51</span>):  As minister, I'm incredibly fortunate to be able to see many projects being delivered across the country. But while new buildings and upgraded facilities are really important, what matters most is what they mean to the communities that use them. In my own community, the Eastwood Leisure Complex in the heart of Ballarat is a true community asset. For more than 80 years, it's been a place where people can come together. It's the home of the mighty Wildcats basketball team. It hosts everything from U3A classes and holiday programs to mahjong groups and Irish dancing. It's a vibrant hub that serves people of all ages and backgrounds.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">To ensure it remains accessible and fit for purpose, this government invested $8.5 million through the competitive Growing Regions Program to transform the facility. I recently attended the start of demolition works, and it was exciting to reflect on what Eastwood has meant to generations of Ballarat residents while imagining what it will become for future generations.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Another project I'm particularly proud of is the Vickers Street Community Hub in Sebastopol. Late last year we officially opened this fantastic new facility, supported by $4.5 million that I was proud to secure alongside the Prime Minister during the 2022 election campaign. The project replaced the old building with a purpose-built community hub featuring meeting rooms, a large multipurpose space and a commercial kitchen. What makes it especially unique is that it is shared by both the senior citizens group and a kindergarten, creating opportunities for connection across generations. Importantly, the City of Ballarat worked closely with the senior citizens group to preserve photographs and memories from the original building, ensuring the community's history remains very much part of its future. And, certainly, the well-loved library and book exchange is there as well.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Anyone who's spent time in Ballarat knows that it's a welcoming and inclusive city. Since the multicultural communities of the goldfields era, Ballarat has embraced people from all over the world. It's why I was again delighted to see that $500,000 has been allocated to the Ballarat Regional Multicultural Council's Ballarat Welcome Centre. With work now underway, the upgraded facility will better connect people with settlement, employment and health services while providing welcoming spaces for community activities. Just as importantly, the upgrade will create a welcoming and modern workplace for the staff and the volunteers, ensuring that they have the facilities they need to continue supporting multicultural communities across our region.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">These projects remind us that, while governments can help to build infrastructure, it is the people who bring these places to life. It's the friendships formed, the connections strengthened and the memories created within these walls that make our communities stronger, more resilient and more connected.</span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Wannon Electorate: Small Business</title>
          <page.no>83</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Wannon Electorate: Small Business</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>83</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Tehan, Dan MP</name>
              <name.id>210911</name.id>
              <electorate>Wannon</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TEHAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wannon</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:54</span>):  During the winter break, it was a great opportunity for me to get out and about in my electorate, visit some of the wonderful 300 communities that I have in my electorate and, in particular, head down the Great Ocean Road and see what was happening. I did one of my listening posts at Princetown. Princetown is a very small community on the Great Ocean Road, not far from the Twelve Apostles. When I was there, I bumped into Ingrid out the front of the general store. There was activity in the general store, so I asked Ingrid what was going on, and she said, 'The general store is about to reopen.' It was absolutely fantastic to be able to do a social media post with her partner, Daniel. We put that on Facebook, Instagram and other social media platforms, as you do. The Warrnambool<span style="font-style:italic;"> Standard</span> saw it, so they did a story on them. It was fantastic, because Princetown has seen two of its businesses closed, and to see the general store opening again is such fantastic news.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I say to anyone who is travelling down the Great Ocean Road or anyone who lives in south-west Victoria, if you get the opportunity, pop into the Princetown general store. You can have a coffee from 10 am onwards or—and I assume you might want to wait till midday for this—a frothy. You'll be able to have a beer or a wine. If you've had a really hard time—I'm not quite sure what the liquor licence hours are—you might even be able to have one at 10. Who knows? Anyway, it is fantastic. They'll have all sorts of other food offerings. If you need some things—if you've forgotten your milk or something—they'll have those as well.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's wonderful to see a small community, which has had a bit of a tough time because two of their businesses have closed, have one business reopening. There's further accommodation to come, and it is the most beautiful, magnificent spot. It has a little bit of beach which is truly magnificent.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">And can I say to David Cossin, thank you for your email. David saw my social media post. He had a couple of comments which were points very well made, but he also said that he'd been down there, and he'd tried the coffee. I think he might have even tried a beer. He said it was fantastic to see the general store open again. If you can get to Princetown, make sure to have a coffee or a beer.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Tree, Ms Georgia, Labor Government</title>
          <page.no>83</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Tree, Ms Georgia</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Labor Government</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>83</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">King, Madeleine MP</name>
              <name.id>102376</name.id>
              <electorate>Brand</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="102376" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms MADELEINE KING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Brand</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Resources and Minister for Northern Australia</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:57</span>):  The federal and state Labor governments are continuing to deliver for my electorate of Brand, which is why I'm so pleased that my friend Georgia Tree is standing for the seat of Secret Harbour in the upcoming state by-election. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Port Kennedy sits in my electorate, and for nine years I was able to represent Secret Harbour, Golden Bay, Singleton and Karnup before a redistribution. I know that Georgia will make a fantastic local representative for those suburbs as well as for Lakelands and Madora Bay. Georgia grew up in the area. She went to Warnbro Primary School and the Warnbro Community High School. Her father worked up the road at Alcoa and raised Georgia and her brother, Callum, alone on a sparky's wage after her mother died of cancer.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Georgia is a fighter, and she is a true local. She has always fought for real cost-of-living relief and for delivering health and transport infrastructure that the residents and the businesses of Secret Harbour need and deserve. I was really proud and pleased to stand alongside Georgia to announce the next phase of the widening of the Kwinana Freeway, a $700 million project jointly funded by state and federal Labor governments. It's projects like this that have real impacts on people's lives. It will mean that people in Brand and in the suburbs of Secret Harbour will spend less time on the road and more time with their families and friends at home.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Like me, Georgia is passionate about tackling the cost of living for locals, and that's why Labor is delivering tax cuts for every Australian worker. We are strengthening Medicare and boosting bulk-billing, so now there are more bulk-billing clinics in Secret Harbour. We are making free TAFE permanent, which means more tradies are able to train and build the homes we need and will have great jobs into the future. We are making child care cheaper and are extending paid parental leave.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor's state and federal governments are committed to AUKUS and to the upgrades of HMAS <span style="font-style:italic;">Stirling</span>, and we are delivering unprecedented levels of support and funding to improve the lives of veterans and their families by slashing waiting times for veterans' compensation claims. Can I thank the Port Kennedy RSL for all they do for veterans in our community.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We are ensuring real wage increases so that you earn more and you get to keep more of what you earn—for all of those who live and work in Secret Harbour.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Georgia understands how important all of these things are for the people of Secret Harbour, and she has been fighting for them her whole life. As she has said, without Labor's Medicare, her mother's cancer treatments would have bankrupted her family. Without Labor's support of TAFE, her father would not have been able to retrain and provide for her and for Callum. Georgia understands Labor values because she has lived them all her life. Only Georgia Tree can deliver real outcomes for the people of Secret Harbour.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Herbert Electorate: Community Events</title>
          <page.no>84</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Herbert Electorate: Community Events</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>84</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Thompson, Phillip MP</name>
              <name.id>281826</name.id>
              <electorate>Herbert</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="281826" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr THOMPSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Herbert</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:00</span>):  It's been a busy time in Townsville over the last few weeks. First we saw the Townsville Titans claim victory in a nationwide tug-of-war competition that was held in Townsville. They had back-to-back victories, as they travelled to Cairns the next day to do their tug of war.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I went to Aitkenvale State School. Aitkenvale State School is a great school within the Townsville boundaries, and they asked me to come and speak about what different levels of government do—through their humanities, or HASS, education. But then they said to me: 'We have an idea. We have a policy that should become law. We're going through the process of writing it up now, but we will tell you a little bit about it.' They told me that they wanted to make school a four-day week. They debated long and hard with each other and against me, and they said they're going to make sure that they have a policy wrapped up so that I can bring it to Canberra and talk about it on the floor of parliament. These young people were very excited, not just because they're trying to develop a policy to make sure they only have to go to school for four days a week but because they want to be involved in the process. They learnt about different levels of government. They spoke about how many councillors we have, who the mayor is, the Premier, the state government, the opposition and also the federal government. They knew who the Prime Minister and the opposition leader are. They knew parts of what our roles are. I thought it was just fantastic for a primary school to be so well-informed on how the process works. I told them I'll have to go back when they've got their policy ready to go.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I also attended the Challenge Games. The Challenge Games is a fantastic event that is for young people who have disabilities and all abilities to compete in an Olympic-style event where you have people who may need aids like wheelchairs and walking aids to manoeuvre around. They were running up and down the red track, and they were participating in games, but, most importantly, they were cheering each other on. It was great to see all these young people from around northern Australia come to the Challenge Games in Townsville and support each other, knowing that sport is a way that we all connect together.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This weekend, we have the Wallabies playing in Townsville at our world-class stadium, Queensland Country Bank Stadium. It's just fantastic that Townsville is getting such spectacular and massive events like having the Wallabies there, having soccer and having different events. As we go forward to the Olympics, it's fantastic to see Townsville being the capital of northern Australia.</span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Tertiary Education and Training</title>
          <page.no>85</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Tertiary Education and Training</span>
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          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>85</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Mascarenhas, Zaneta MP</name>
              <name.id>298800</name.id>
              <electorate>Swan</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298800" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms MASCARENHAS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Swan</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:03</span>):  Imagine being able to have the career that you love and not having to choose between prac and paying the rent. This has been an issue for so many health students. I was very lucky when, a few months ago, a fabulous young woman called Gabby came to my office. She's a physio student in her second year at Curtin University, and she came to speak to me about the realities of 'prac poverty placement', which is basically where health science students have to do 1,000 hours of prac and not get paid for it. She was really concerned. She saw some of the improvements that were happening in other sectors, and she was explaining how she wanted to make sure that she sees this happen for physiotherapy students.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">For too long, so many people have been weighing up their ability to complete their degree versus their ability to pay rent and buy groceries. And—guess what?—the Albanese government is now extending Commonwealth paid prac placement to 10 more health professions, for students studying to become physios, clinical psychs, OTs, pathologists, paramedics, radiographers, pharmacists, rehab therapists, audiologists and podiatrists.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">For regional students, not having access to paid prac for a thousand hours has been a really big hit. In WA, many students have to move from regional areas to the city, which has a huge cost. But the converse is true as well. When city kids move to the regions to fill some of the acute shortages of skills, they have to decide whether they actually take that placement or not. As the Minister for Education said this week, students on placements deserve to be able to afford something more nutritious than two-minute noodles.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Gabby explained that this announcement has lifted a whole weight off her shoulders. She feels relief. This announcement means that she can now focus more, rather than fearing homelessness and hunger, while she trains to help others. Gabby has seen what the old system costs. She explained how a friend of hers, who graduated a few years ago, had to leave her course for one full year to afford to take her paid prac. What should have been a straightforward path through university was not a straightforward path. This has not been great for the profession and not great for Australia's skill shortages. This story is far from uncommon. It reflects the reality of placement poverty. We've changed it and we've fixed it.</span>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Private Health Insurance</title>
          <page.no>85</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Private Health Insurance</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>85</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Boyce, Colin MP</name>
              <name.id>299498</name.id>
              <electorate>Flynn</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299498" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BOYCE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Flynn</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:06</span>):  More than three million older Australians are facing a crushing financial blow under this Labor government, with private health insurance premium increases of up to $807 per year for singles and up to $1,614 for couples. Why? It's because of Labor's $11 billion tax grab targeting private health insurance. For older Australians on fixed incomes who are already struggling with the relentless cost-of-living crisis, this policy leaves them with a bitter, agonising choice. They have been forced to cut spending on basic daily essentials and to downgrade their health cover or give it up entirely.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">What makes this policy particularly cruel is who it impacts the most: those who have spent a lifetime sacrificing to keep their private health insurance cover. We are talking about seniors who worked hard, budgeted strictly and sacrificed family holidays, new cars and small everyday luxuries year after year specifically to ensure they wouldn't be a burden on the public health system in their later years. They paid into their health insurance funds faithfully—in many cases, for their entire working lives—believing that their sacrifice would guarantee them peace of mind when they needed it the most in their older years. Now, on fixed pensions, they are being priced out and forced out.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">National Seniors Australia reports that an astonishing 45 per cent of people relying solely on the age pension hold private health insurance. These aren't wealthy individuals. They are everyday pensioners who did everything right and are now being forced to abandon the very safety net they spent decades sacrificing to build.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor's own department admitted in writing that pensioners would be forced to cut back, downgrade or drop their cover under this policy. The Minister for Health and Ageing originally claimed that only 44,000 pensioners would be affected. That claim has now been completely blown apart. New polling reveals that almost 40 per cent of seniors in outer suburban and regional Australia are ready to drop their cover altogether.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This isn't just a coalition complaint. State health ministers in Queensland, Tasmania and New South Wales have all sounded the alarm. They know exactly what happens when hundreds of thousands of seniors are forced out of private cover and flood the public hospital system, which is already at breaking point. By stripping away an additional rebate—a four per cent cut for those over 65 and an eight per cent cut for those over 70—Canberra is pulling off a cheap cost shift. The federal government pockets the cash while state emergency departments and public waiting lists pick up the pieces.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Private health insurance is a vital buffer for our health network. Why doesn't this Labor government understand the real-world impact of punishing the very people who've spent a lifetime contributing to it?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Lane Cove Public School: 150th Anniversary, Olivieri, Mr Domenico (Mick)</title>
          <page.no>86</page.no>
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            <p>
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Lane Cove Public School: 150th Anniversary</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Olivieri, Mr Domenico (Mick)</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>86</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Laxale, Jerome MP</name>
              <name.id>299174</name.id>
              <electorate>Bennelong</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299174" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LAXALE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bennelong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:09</span>):  In 1876, Lane Cove Public School opened with just 13 students, and last week the school celebrated their 150th anniversary. It was such an honour to join their celebrations alongside Principal Terry McKinnon, New South Wales Minister for Education and Early Learning Prue Car and current and former members of the school community to mark this very special day, and there was plenty on show. The original 1876 classroom displayed old photos, uniforms, badges, trophies and documents. A centenary time capsule from 1976 was unearthed, with items and stories that have preserved the school's rare history. The P&amp;C ran a cake stall and a barbecue and sold commemorative tea towels and aprons.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Special alumni returned as well. Peter Overton from Nine News returned to Lane Cove for the celebration. He was a student and school captain 55 years ago. Peter reunited with John Notley, who is a lifetime school P&amp;C member who is now over 90 years old, and a special video from the one and only Nicole Kidman—a former student—was played in which she shared her personal stories about her beloved Lane Cove Public School.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Today, 680 students are enrolled, with 48 per cent of those from a non-English-speaking background and with 54 different languages being spoken in family homes. To the present and past families, teachers and students of Lane Cove Public School: congratulations. Thank you for being the reason that this school continues to thrive.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Whilst it was an honour to celebrate such a huge milestone, I'm deeply saddened to share some local news. Last week, I learnt of the passing of Domenico 'Mick' Olivieri. Mick was a beloved member of the Ryde community who will be sorely missed. Mick was cherished, respected and admired in all areas of his life. You'd often see Mick on the sewing machine as one of the expert tailors at Top Ryde Tailoring, which is a business he started 66 years ago. But his life wasn't only work; he gave back to his community as well. For more than 60 years, Mick devoted his time to the Lady of Grace Fraternity by serving as both a committee member and Treasurer. He led the Rosary Group at St Anthony's Catholic Church every Monday, where he shared his passion for faith and prayer with the parish.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Mick was widely known for always giving a helping hand. He organised countless fundraising initiatives and worked tirelessly to bring people together. He offered support to anyone in need, whether it was towards fellow locals in Bennelong or disadvantaged groups outside of Australia. I wish to extend my respects to the Olivieri family, who I know will sorely miss him. He leaves behind his wife of over 65 years, Giuseppina Olivieri, as well as their children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. Vale Domenico Olivieri.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Casey Electorate: Community Events</title>
          <page.no>86</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Casey Electorate: Community Events</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>86</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Violi, Aaron MP</name>
              <name.id>300147</name.id>
              <electorate>Casey</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300147" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr VIOLI</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Casey</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:12</span>):  It was an honour to join our local volunteer firefighters and their families at the Montrose Fire Brigade annual awards last weekend. Congratulations to Montrose firefighters Mark Dynes and Ryan Kimberley on receiving five-year service awards; to Phil Doyle, Ryan McCormack, Jamie and Liz Peters on your 10-year service awards; to Peter Carew on 45 years of service; and to Rob Earney on 55 years of service. Greg Barry, Sally Conner, Allan Hopkins, Stuart McCall and the late Ed Stevens also received the National Medal.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It was an honour to also join the Wonga Park CFA last Friday night to celebrate local volunteers at their annual dinner. Congratulations to Tim Edwards on receiving the 10-year service medal, Rhys Keown and Rob Pitcher on receiving 15-year service medals and Aaron Farr on receiving the 20-year service medal. Congratulations to John Greenwood-Smith OAM, who received the 55-year service medal, life membership and the chief officer's citation for courage. I also acknowledge that he received the OAM this year.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I had the privilege of joining the Sassafras-Ferny Creek CFA annual awards recently, where we congratulated Lieutenant Geoff Horner, who was awarded the 50-year service medal. Rachel Faris-Cornwell was presented with the brigade's prestigious Firefighter of the Year award. Peter Leithhead and Michael Levi each received officer's awards, and the brigade was recognised with the Chief Officer's Certificate of Commendation for their actions during the June 2021 storms. I'm looking forward to getting out and celebrating with the Belgrave CFA on Friday night and the Monbulk fire brigade on Saturday night. CFA volunteers give so much to our communities; we're so lucky to have them.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Last week we celebrated Early Childhood Matters Week. I had the privilege of visiting Mooroolbark early learning centre during Early Childhood Matters Week. It was fantastic to see young minds learning and engaging through play, supported by a team of dedicated teachers and educators. Thank you to Bri and Mel for showing me around and for the great conversation. All around the country there are early childhood educators like Bri and Mel working tirelessly to give Aussie kids the very best start in life, supporting their development and wellbeing and laying the foundations for future success.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We know that families know what is best for their children. Choice is so important for families in early learning, and we need to make sure that those childcare deserts in communities like mine and in regional communities across the country are dealt with. A key way to do that is to give families choice in how they raise their children.</span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Tynan, Ms Melinda, Myers, Mr Cameron</title>
          <page.no>87</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Tynan, Ms Melinda</span>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Myers, Mr Cameron</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>87</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Leigh, Andrew Keith MP</name>
              <name.id>BU8</name.id>
              <electorate>Fenner</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="BU8" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr LEIGH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fenner</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Productivity, Competition, Charities and Treasury</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:16</span>):  I rise today to recognise two outstanding constituents of Fenner. Melinda Tynan is retiring after decades of public service. Melinda began her career in the New South Wales police force, where she worked directly with people experiencing domestic violence. She was the chief instigator of the first Australasian Women in Policing Conference, held in Sydney in 1996, which helped lead to the creation of the Australasian Council of Women and Policing. The council was incorporated in 1997; Melinda was a founding member and its secretary. In 1998 the ACT Attorney-General appointed her domestic violence project coordinator and an ex-officio member of the ACT Domestic Violence Prevention Council.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Her 2000 thesis, 'Fatal flaws', examined the policing of violence against women in Australia. She later brought that expertise into the Australian Public Service, working on women's safety and responses to trafficking, forced marriage and family violence. Her daughter, Ophelia, tells me that Melinda was also among the key advisers who helped develop Australia's first National Plan to Reduce Violence against Women and their Children. Ophelia described her mother to me as a giant in the field and said she was an extremely proud daughter. After a career spent making women and children safer, Melinda has given her plenty to be proud of.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I congratulate another constituent, Cameron Myers, on winning silver in the men's mile at the Glasgow Commonwealth Games. Cam ran three minutes, 55 seconds, finishing behind Scotland's Josh Kerr in the event's return to the Commonwealth Games program after 60 years. At just 20, Cam has already built an extraordinary record. He began at Belconnen little athletics aged six. At 16 he became the second-youngest person ever to break four minutes for the mile. In 2024, he won world under-20 silver over 1,500 metres. He's a two-time Australian 1,500 metres champion. This year Cam has run faster still. He set an Australian indoor record for the 3,000 metres, then ran an Australian 1,500 metres record of three minutes, 28 seconds in Paris. A week later he won the Bowerman Mile in Eugene in three minutes, 46 seconds, breaking the Australian and Oceania records.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Cam is as modest in person as he is quick on the track. He's coached by my friend Dick Telford, the Australian Institute of Sport's inaugural sports scientist, a pioneering researcher and a generous coach. Cam joined Dick's squad full time as a teenager and the results since have been remarkable. Congratulations to Cam on his medal and his records and to Dick Telford for another successful chapter in a long Canberra career.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Glasgow Commonwealth Games</title>
          <page.no>87</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Glasgow Commonwealth Games</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>87</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wood, Jason MP</name>
              <name.id>E0F</name.id>
              <electorate>La Trobe</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="E0F" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WOOD</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">La Trobe</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:18</span>):  I too would like to rise today to highlight the tremendous success of the 2026 Commonwealth Games. Athletes from 74 nations and territories came together in Glasgow for the 23rd games. Australia once again proved why we are one of the greatest sporting nations—I should say the greatest sporting nation. The medal tally especially was quite incredible, with 164 medals, including 65 gold, 47 silver and 52 bronze—an incredible achievement. Our swimmers dominated the pool, and it was great to see the athletes do so well, especially in the relays. I couldn't believe the results we saw in the men's and women's relays, which puts us in good stead for the Olympic Games. Congratulations to all involved. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But the tragedy of the Commonwealth Games for Victoria was simply this: Victorians were so excited about having the opportunity to host the games in Victoria—it was the Victorian Labor government's commitment to host the games and it would have been so amazing—and, as we heard before when members spoke about athletes performing so well, it would have been so nice for family members and friends to go and see our athletes at, say, the MCG in front of a 100,000 crowd, but instead we saw Glasgow host the games and in a very small stadium. We have the Melbourne Sports and Aquatics Centre, which I know very well because my daughter is in swimming. That is an Olympic-sized, beautiful pool. The facilities there are absolutely amazing, yet the Victorian taxpayer paid $589 million under Labor to not host the games. Do you know what was even worse? It was when we had our good friends from Scotland holding up signs thanking the Victorian taxpayer for funding the games. You wouldn't believe that, Madam Deputy Speaker—they were thanking us. </span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The compensation Victoria paid—it's obviously gone into debt for Scotland to host the Games. The stupid thing was that the incompetent state Labor Party tried to put on more events and put events in the regions and not in Melbourne as well as build facilities, yet Melbourne is the home of sport. We've got the Melbourne Cricket Ground and MSAC, as I said, and all these incredible venues such as Olympic Park Stadium. We could have easily held the games there. So, with the November election coming up, this is simply another reason why we need to vote out Labor. Rather than being the sporting capital of the world, they turned us into the supporting joke of the world.</span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Tangney Electorate: Social Cohesion</title>
          <page.no>88</page.no>
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          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Tangney Electorate: Social Cohesion</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>88</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Lim, Sam MP</name>
              <name.id>300130</name.id>
              <electorate>Tangney</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300130" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LIM</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Tangney</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:21</span>):  Earlier this month, constituents from the Indian Australian community in Tangney reached out to me about some of the racist abuse that has been said to them. There are people out there propagating division and hatred. This has serious consequences in my Tangney community. With 162 different ancestries, this division is damaging our harmony. I know many of them do not want to speak out in public because they are afraid they will get worse or they will be ignored. As a former police officer, I always advise them to report to police; as a migrant, I also understand why people might not want to do so. But I also do know that we all need to stand up and speak out against this type of bad behaviour. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I have reflected on these conversations and also thought of recent Tangney events that brought people together. In June, I attended the opening of the Making Home Under Southern Skies exhibition at Yagan Mia Wireless Hill Museum. This exhibit looks at the story of Chinese Westerns Australia from the early 1830s to the present day. With Tangney home to a large Chinese Australian communities, it was meaningful to have this exhibition held here in Tangney. Another two events in Tangney showed how we are looking after the traditions that matter to our elderly and supporting our future generations in connecting with their ancestry. I joined celebrations for the dumpling festival held by Chung Wah Association and congratulated the Mukamai Tamil language school on their 10th anniversary. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Recently, the Indian Society of Western Australia opened their doors to the Tangney and Burt communities. My colleague Matt Keogh and I hosted a multicultural leaders' forum with Minister Burke and Minister Aly. There were powerful contributions from everyone who attended on that day, but the words of Dr Paul from the Baha'i community in Melville have stayed with me. He shared with me how he got to know his neighbours not only by their names but the football team they cheer for, where they work and what mattered to them most. He spent time truly trying to understand his neighbours. This is a powerful reminder of how we can all contribute to the harmony of our community.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cost of Living</title>
          <page.no>88</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Cost of Living</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>88</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">O'Brien, Ted MP</name>
              <name.id>138932</name.id>
              <electorate>Fairfax</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="138932" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TED O'BRIEN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fairfax</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:24</span>):  This country needs a plan, and it needs to be run by a political party that has a plan. The Liberal National Party has a plan, and we're out there communicating with the Australian public about it. We have a plan to lower taxes. We have a plan for cheaper power. We have a plan for less migration and more homes. We have a plan to have an Australian government that puts the Australian people first. That's our plan.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our plan, as the Liberal National Party, is to put the Australian people at the centre—to give them hope, to unleash aspiration and to build a country that is worthy not just of those upon whose shoulders we stand today but of the next generation, to ensure tomorrow's Australians will live in an even greater country. We can do that. We can do that with a united team that we have and a solid plan. This plan is every bit as relevant to the people of the Sunshine Coast as it is to people right across Australia. When it comes to lower taxes, people of the Sunshine Coast right now are hurting. We might indeed be the lifestyle capital of the country, and we are.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But the Sunshine Coast residents are still amidst a cost-of-living crisis, and the only thing that we've seen in the recent budget from the Albanese government is to increase taxes, whether it be on trusts, capital gains or negative gearing—you name it. The Australian people and Sunshine Coast residents do not deserve higher taxes. Our plan, as a Liberal National Party, is to lower those taxes.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Then, when it comes to cheaper power, I've had the great privilege of, in recent weeks, knocking on the doors of small businesses across the electorate of Fairfax. I've had the great privilege of attending multiple chamber of commerce meetings. I'm talking to businesses that get up every single morning—their owners, their workers—to serve the local community, and they are copping it because of costs. One of those costs is power. It is electricity in particular. Electricity prices have gone up by 40 per cent, gas, 40 per cent, under this government. Cheaper power will help our small businesses on the Sunshine Coast.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">That's our plan—less migration and more houses. If there's any part of Australia that has felt the housing crisis, it is the Sunshine Coast, a beautiful part of the world, and, yet, we have homelessness running out of control. We have longstanding residents having to leave the region because the rents have gone through the roof or they simply cannot afford to buy. That is because this government has driven supply down. We need to ensure that we actually cap migration to new builds—a sensible plan that we'll deliver. This is how we put Australians first and the people of the Sunshine Coast first.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Rail Safety Week</title>
          <page.no>88</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Rail Safety Week</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>88</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Lawrence, Tania MP</name>
              <name.id>299150</name.id>
              <electorate>Hasluck</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299150" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LAWRENCE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hasluck</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:27</span>):  Between 2001 and 2025, there were 2,305 fatalities on our rail networks. Of those, 1,781 were suicides. This absolutely validates the direct and indirect investment in our mental health, which is in excess of $14 billion nationally. It is so vital. It also highlights another matter. Part of Rail Safety Week is highlighting the importance of everyone understanding the impact that fatalities on our rail network have on the victims. The number of suicides is obviously extraordinary, as is the number of accidents on rail crossings from trespassing and from unfortunate incidents where people haven't been able to see the lighting—which is being fixed, as I understand, with new measures, particularly in Western Australia, for lighting on carriages. These 2,305 fatalities need to be highlighted and focused on, and I'm grateful for the opportunity this week for the rail safety foundation to have had time in the parliament to highlight to members of parliament not only the importance of rail in Australia but also the importance of improving safety.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In May this year we had an accident at the Meadow Street crossing in Guildford, in my electorate of Hasluck, where a truck collided with a train. The damage it caused was extraordinary. Incredibly, there were no fatalities. There were six injuries, though, including two toddlers. The driver had a trainee with him in the train. You see the damage when you look at the photograph. It's just remarkable that there were not more serious injuries of a physical kind. But we know that there will now be mental injuries. My father was a train driver. He spoke to me, when I was a young girl, of his experience of what, in his case, was also a suicide and of the impact and the toll it took on him. You see it happening. It takes 14 football fields to stop a train. The emotional toll that it takes on the drivers, the passengers and the people who have to then clean the train and clean the tracks as well as on the families of the victims can't be overstated. This is a trauma that we can actually work to fix collectively.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I thank the TrackSAFE Foundation, I thank the RTBU for the work that they do to support the drivers and I thank bodies like the PTA and the Perth transport bodies that provide the wraparound support to passengers as well.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Payne</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  In accordance with standing order 193, the time for members' constituency statements has concluded.</span>
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                <page.no>89</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Payne, Alicia MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>144732</name.id>
                <electorate>Canberra</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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        <title>COMMITTEES</title>
        <page.no>89</page.no>
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          <title>Education Committee</title>
          <page.no>89</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Education Committee</span>
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            <page.no>89</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That the House take note of the report.</span>
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                <page.no>89</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Lim, Sam MP</name>
                <name.id>300130</name.id>
                <electorate>Tangney</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LIM</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Tangney</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:31</span>):  When I was young, my family was very poor. We were a Chinese Malaysian family that worked as rubber tappers in Muar, Malaysia. My language at home was Chinese, but on my daily walk to help my family at the rubber plantation I would walk past the homes of many Malay families. One of those families took me in and treated me as one of their own. The family fed me, the kids and I became good friends and we shared many happy memories together. They spoke Malay; I spoke Mandarin Chinese. So how did we communicate? Well, I learned Malay. That's also something the family taught me. As we played and ate together, I also learned about Malay culture and Malay customs. I may not be of Malay heritage, but I can speak like a Malay and I can eat like a Malay. I understand what it's like to be Malay. Years later, as an adult, I owned a business with operations throughout Malaysia. Some of that success was due to the capabilities I had of the Malay language, culture and people. When you understand people, you can connect with them. You can build trust and respect. You can build relationships that are deep and long lasting.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I speak in support of the report <span style="font-style:italic;">Security and </span><span style="font-style:italic;">prosperity </span><span style="font-style:italic;">in Asia: building Asia capability in Australia through the education system and beyond</span>. In my electorate of Tangney, I have Oberthur Primary School, which offers a well-known embedded Mandarin language program. From pre-primary to year 6, students take Mandarin language classes but also receive science, measurement and geometry lessons in Mandarin. Many of the students do have Chinese ancestry, but there are also families in the Oberthur catchment that do not have any exposure to Mandarin prior to starting school. For these families where Mandarin is not a home language, having this greater exposure is especially critical if we want more students to be learning Mandarin.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Tangney is also home to Rossmoyne Senior High School, who offer Mandarin and Japanese language classes as well as a gifted and talented program in these languages. While some students attending Oberthur study Mandarin as secondary students at Rossmoyne Senior High School, others who do not reside in the Rossmoyne catchment cannot, because Chinese is not offered at their catchment school.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For native English speakers, Chinese is a difficult language to learn. Basic reading proficiency in Mandarin requires at least 3,000 characters. On average, it takes two to five years of full-time study to reach advanced proficiency. One of the report's recommendations is to work towards bilingual Mandarin Chinese education at secondary level in every catchment that already has a bilingual Mandarin primary. Another recommendation is to designate priority languages of Mandarin, Indonesian, Hindi and Japanese that would attract direct Commonwealth investment through measures such as Asia Leader Schools and language hubs.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I know that many constituents in Tangney will be supportive of these recommendations. Parents often approach me and ask for a solution such as what is being recommended. They see the value of developing fluency in Asian languages. And, having invested heavily in language learning in primary school, they are frustrated when their children cannot continue this study in their secondary schools.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">More than 70 countries or regions have introduced Chinese language in their education system. Many education systems see the value of having Chinese language as part of their curriculum, such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. In Malaysia, Chinese and Tamil are taught with Malay and English throughout the whole education system. Asia accounts for more than 60 per cent of Australia's two-way trade. But employers do not necessarily see the value in recruiting or rewarding those who have experience and capability with Asia. Some employers see language skills as important, but many see a person's ability to speak a second, a third or even a fourth language as something interesting rather than as a key skill.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Language is important, but it does not tell the whole story. Capability means more than language. It is an understanding and respect that is developed through deep cultural study and often significant time spent in a country, not once but over many years. It is being able to understand without needing cultural translation, and it is about being able to build relationships. Both public and private sector employers need to better understand the value of someone who can build bridges across cultures.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Around 80 per cent of member companies of the Business Council of Australia have established international operations. While we acknowledge the importance of Australia's trade with Asia, how many of us actually have Asia experience? And, for people who do have Asia experience, how is this skill measured and valued by their employers? We need to better value these capabilities as a strategic asset. It is alarming to see that school and university language programs, in-country immersion programs and university courses in Asian studies are all declining. These courses are all part of how Australia and Australians can develop their capability with Asia. Yet the inquiry heard expert witnesses predicting the functional extinction of the teaching of Indonesian in Australian schools by 2031. Fewer than 500 of nearly one million domestic university students study Indonesian, at a time when Australians' understanding of Indonesia is of no greater importance. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia and India celebrated the sixth anniversary of the comprehensive strategic partnership this year. There is a great demand for the study of South Asian languages. In my own electorate of Tangney, there are 14 different community language schools, with half of them teaching a South Asian language. But at the same time, South Asian languages are barely taught in schools or universities. This is also an issue that has been raised with me by Tangney constituents. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My community is asking for high quality learning in Asian languages with a pathway from primary to secondary to post-secondary learning in a way that is structured and provides real opportunities to develop fluency and the deep understanding that is so key to this capability. This report offers many recommendations to support a sustainable strategy to build that capability. </span>
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                <page.no>90</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Penfold, Alison MP</name>
                <name.id>248895</name.id>
                <electorate>Lyne</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms PENFOLD</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lyne</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:40</span>):  This is a completely last minute decision to speak, but it is an important one. I welcome the report of the Standing Committee on Education, Security and Prosperity in Asia titled <span style="font-style:italic;">Building Asia capability in Australia through the education system and beyond</span>. The reason that I've chosen to speak on this particular report is my own experience both as a university student and also in my professional career. I was a European humanities student at school, and I studied French and German, but, for a couple of reasons, when I went to university I chose to study Korean language.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are two reasons for that. One is that I have a goddaughter who was adopted from Korea and my hope was that one day, if she ever wanted to go to Korea and learn about the country of her heritage, that I could go and that I could help her engage with the country. Secondly, I had a lot of friends and colleagues at the time—I'm gen X, and I finished high school in 1989—who were studying Japanese. I had this sense, well before K-pop and K-dramas, that Korea was a country that Australia needed to deepen its relationship with.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">So I chose to study Korean language at the Australian National University. I have to say that, despite the fact that some 30 years later my Korean is not much beyond being able to say 'maekju juseyo' to order a beer and 'ajumma, ppalli wa', come here I need a beer quickly, I still very much value the relationship and that experience that I had. Indeed, I had the opportunity through an Asian languages scholarship to actually go and study for a year at Sogang University where not only did I spend time learning Korean in a language school but I also had the opportunity to actually study with Koreans in the classroom. This is the sort of experience that is critical and a key point of the report.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Then in my own professional life, when I was the CEO of the Australian Livestock Exporters' Council, part of my job was spending time in Indonesia, Vietnam and Malaysia. I came to that job at quite a turbulent time in the industry—after Labor's ban on live cattle to Indonesia. I was responsible to help bridge the divide between our countries, rebuild the trade and help our customers understand the animal welfare requirements that Australia was placing on Australian exporters through the Exporter Supply Chain Assurance System. When you go and have those conversations business to business, people to people, it's not just about trade numbers. It's actually about having a deeper understanding of the culture. One of the things I learnt with Korean is you can't directly translate from English to Korean if you don't understand the cultural context in which you are having to explain and get your point across.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As I say, when we're engaging with Asia, it's far more than numbers on a trade balance sheet. It means understanding languages, cultures, history and politics. It means building relationships and networks. Wherever possible, it means actually spending the time in the region. I'm incredibly grateful now, as a member of parliament, to come to this place having that experience and that exposure—having studied Korean language at the ANU and having spent time in Indonesia, Malaysia and Vietnam. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The report describes this capability as a combination of cultural knowledge, language skills and professional networks that allow Australians to engage effectively with our region, and that resonates very strongly with me. When you learn another country's language, you inevitably learn much more than words. You begin to understand how people think, how their history has shaped them, how their society works and how they see Australia and the world. That understanding became so practical to me and, as I say, to bring to my work here in the parliament. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Those experiences reinforced for me that successful engagement in Asia depends on relationships, trust and cultural understanding. You cannot build those things from Canberra, Wauchope, Taree or Tea Gardens. You have to spend time in country, to listen, to understand how business is done, and it's done quite differently. I learnt that very clearly, particularly in my engagement with Vietnamese cattle importers, trying to explain the Exporter Supply Chain Assurance System, why Australia was implementing it, how decisions are made and what matters to the people that you're dealing with. As I say, in the live export industry, that meant working very directly with businesses, officials and communities across Southeast Asia. It meant understanding not just commercial arrangements but also local expectations, cultural sensitivities and the importance of long-term relationships. That experience taught me that Australian businesses are at their strongest in Asia when we turn up, build trust and invest in understanding our partners. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That's difficult to replicate in a classroom and impossible to replace with an app or an AI translation tool. Indeed, the committee made precisely that point: technology can make translation easier, but it cannot substitute for the cultural understanding and human relationships that allow diplomats, businesses and governments to operate effectively. That is why I'm concerned by some of the figures contained in this report. In 2023, only 3.3 per cent of Australian year 12 students studied one of the previously designated priority Asian languages—Japanese, Chinese or Indonesian. Australia ranked second last among 64 countries for the proportion of year 10 students learning a second language, and only 38 per cent of Australians speak two or more languages, compared with an OECD average of 68 per cent. The situation at university is no better. The report found Asian language enrolments are at a historic low. Only around one per cent of domestic university students were studying an Asian language in 2023, while enrolments at the ANU have fallen substantially across all of the 16 languages it teaches. That certainly concerns me, as an alumni of Asian language study at ANU—an incredible program that ANU has invested in over many decades.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There's a practical economic dimension to this. Australia is a trading nation. Our farmers, miners and regional businesses produce some of the best products in the world, but future prosperity will increasingly depend on our ability not simply to sell into Asian markets but to understand those markets and build enduring relationships with them, which I've seen myself. A businessperson who understands the language, customs and commercial culture of Indonesia, Korea, Malaysia or Vietnam certainly has an advantage. A diplomat or a Defence official who understands the history and perspectives of our neighbours is better equipped to represent Australia's interests. Indeed, on a recent trip to East Timor as part of the Australian Regional Leadership Initiative, I worked with some of our officials from the Australian embassy in East Timor who spoke some Tetum, and that made such a difference when we were up in remote villages and increased that engagement, which made the experience for me. I think those other MPs and senators, who were on the delegation, got so much more out of the visit. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">A young Australian who's lived and studied in Asia comes home with knowledge, networks and experience that can benefit this country for decades. That's why I particularly support the report's emphasis on immersion and in-country experience.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee recommends continuing support for longer term, language focused study through the New Colombo Plan and considering opportunities for postgraduate students and researchers spending time in Asia. My own experience—I'll finish on this point—tells me that this is money well spent: giving young Australians the opportunity to learn the language and to go and practise it in-country, from just ordering the food to trying to attend a lecture learning about Korean political economy. I tell you what—that was a hell of a class and one of the most difficult language-learning experiences of my life. But I learnt so much not only about Korea but also about the importance of this investment in young people for the future, for building our relationship with Asia.</span>
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                    <a href="144732" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Payne</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  I understand the member for Pearce would like to present a copy of their speech for incorporation into <span style="font-style:italic;">Hansard</span>, in accordance with the resolution agreed to on 6 November 2025.</span>
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                  <page.no>92</page.no>
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                  <name role="metadata">Payne, Alicia MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>144732</name.id>
                  <electorate>Canberra</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
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                <page.no>92</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Roberts, Tracey MP</name>
                <name.id>157125</name.id>
                <electorate>Pearce</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms ROBERTS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Pearce</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:50</span>):  <span style="font-style:italic;">The incorporated speech read as follows—</span></span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I would like to speak to the House Standing Committee on Education's report, <span style="font-style:italic;">Building Asia capability in Australia through the education system and beyond</span><span style="font-style:italic;">.</span> I do so as a member of the parliamentary committee. This report goes to the heart of Australia's future prosperity, security and standing in the region.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The report makes a powerful and urgent case: Asia capability is not an optional extra, not a specialist interest and not something we can afford to leave to chance. It is a core national capability. It will help determine whether Australia is equipped to trade, to cooperate, to understand our neighbours and to compete successfully in a region that will shape our economic and strategic environment for decades to come.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For too long, Australia has known this in principle but has failed to act with the sustained seriousness the challenge demands. The report traces decades of inquiries, strategies and policy statements that have all recognised the same truth: our education system must play a central role in building knowledge of Asia, languages of Asia and meaningful engagement with the region. Yet progress has been uneven, fragmented and too often dependent on individual schools, teachers, principals or communities rather than a coherent national effort.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It is not enough to say that Asia matters or to place a reference to Asia in the curriculum and assume the job is done. If we want genuine capability, we need the structures, the leadership, the pathways and the incentives that allow young Australians to move from awareness to learning, from learning to fluency, and from fluency to opportunity.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The report shows that, for many students, the path into Asia capability is shaped more by luck than by design. A student might encounter an inspiring language teacher, a supportive principal, an exchange opportunity or an involved diaspora community.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Another student, with equal interest and potential, may never be offered the same chance. That is not a system built for national resilience; it is a system built on uneven access and inconsistent priorities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When opportunity depends on luck, the nation loses talent. When language provision is patchy, the country loses continuity. When students cannot see a clear pathway from school into university and then into employment, they lose confidence in the value of study. And when employers do not consistently signal that Asia capability matters, the entire pipeline weakens.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The report compellingly addresses how the education system must connect across the life course. Asia capability should begin in the early years, continue through primary and secondary schooling, be strengthened in tertiary education and be recognised and rewarded in the workforce. If we lose any of those stages, the pipeline weakens.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Early learning matters because children are open to language and difference. Primary school matters because habits are formed and confidence either grows or fades. Secondary school matters because subject choice becomes sharper and pathways clearer. University matters because it should deepen expertise and create the teachers, public servants, researchers and business leaders of the future. The workforce matters because if the labour market does not value these skills, students will question whether the effort is worth it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The report also exposes a serious data problem. At the national level, we simply do not have enough reliable, consistent information about how many students are learning languages, which languages they are studying, how long they remain in programs, or how pathways continue across the system. Without data, decline can remain invisible until it is severe. That is why the report's call for a national data framework is so important: we need to know where gaps are, where strengths are and where investment will make a difference.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Language is not a side issue in this discussion. Language is the foundation of understanding. It allows people to build relationships, communicate nuance, develop trust and work across difference. It is one of the strongest indicators of whether Australia is serious about long-term engagement with the region.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee's concerns about the decline in Indonesian are especially serious. Indonesian is not peripheral to Australia; it is central to one of our most important regional relationships. It is connected to geography, trade, diplomacy, defence, education and people-to-people links. When a language of that importance is at risk in our schools, we should respond with urgency.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The report also notes the importance of other Asian languages, including those linked to South Asia and the growing diversity of Australia's engagement across the Indo-Pacific. Our approach must reflect the region as it is, not as it once was. Australia needs capability in a range of languages and cultural contexts, and that capability must be responsive to demographic, economic and strategic change.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The report recognises the contribution of community language schools and diaspora communities. For many families, language maintenance is part of identity and belonging. These communities have often done extraordinary work with limited support. Their contribution deserves respect, recognition and stronger connection to mainstream education policy.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Equity matters. A child's access to language learning should not depend on whether they attend a well-resourced school or whether their family can pay for extra support. A national education system should offer real opportunity to all students, including those in outer suburbs, regional towns and remote communities. If Asia capability is a national priority, it must be built in a way that is fair and inclusive.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Students are more likely to commit to study when they can see where it leads. The report's focus on clear pathways matters. Students should be able to see a line from school language learning to university study, from university to exchanges or internships and from there into careers in government, education, business and the broader economy. If those pathways are invisible, students will drift away even when they have real potential.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee's recommendation for a 10-year national Asia capability strategy is a sensible and necessary step. We need long-term leadership, accountability and coordination. A strategy of that kind would help align education policy with foreign affairs, trade, employment and economic development. It would send a message to schools and universities that this work matters, and it would encourage employers to build demand and reward the people who develop these skills.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Annual reporting to parliament would be a critical part of that approach. If we set national goals, we should measure progress against them publicly. That is how serious policy works: we move beyond warm statements into accountability, and we keep the issue on the agenda long enough to make a difference.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This report also makes clear that the responsibility does not rest with schools alone. Universities, employers, state and territory governments and the Commonwealth all have roles to play. If we ask schools to carry the entire burden, we will continue to get uneven outcomes. If universities do not support specialist study, if employers do not value the capability and if governments do not coordinate, students will receive mixed messages about whether these skills are important.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The costs of inaction are real. If we continue on the current path, we risk losing language programs, weakening teacher supply, narrowing student choice, and diminishing Australia's ability to engage with its region. We risk sending a message to young Australians that study of Asia is optional, uncertain or unrewarded. That would be a profound mistake.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Yet this report gives us hope. The problem is understood and the solutions are available. We know stronger leadership matters. We know sustained investment matters. We know data matters. We know clear pathways matter. We know education, when properly supported, can build the capabilities Australia needs.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I commend the committee for its work and the seriousness with which it approached this inquiry. This is not a report about abstract theory; it is a report about the kind of country we want to be. It asks whether we are prepared to make the choices that will strengthen our children's opportunities, our national capability and our place in the world.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The answer must be yes. Australia's future in the region is too important to leave to chance, and our education system 1s too important to leave disconnected from that future. We should act on this report with urgency, with purpose and with the long-term vision this issue requires.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>93</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Gosling, Luke MP</name>
                <name.id>245392</name.id>
                <electorate>Solomon</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GOSLING</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Solomon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:51</span>):  I'd like to thank the member for Pearce for her contribution and the previous speaker for giving, at very short notice, a quite excellent contribution to this important debate. We all know that Australia is facing its most challenging strategic environment since the Second World War. We hear that a lot, and I think there's agreement about the situation and the times that we find ourselves in.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Building Asia capability in Australia through the education system and beyond</span>, the report of the inquiry expertly chaired by the member for Gellibrand, states:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Our neighbours in Southeast Asia are seeking new partners to protect their sovereignty and agency … To succeed in this new world, Australia's leaders and institutions need a deeper understanding of our region's languages, cultures, histories, societies and economies. Asia capability is now a vital sovereign capability.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I know this from personal experience to be true. Like the former speaker, I studied languages at ANU—Indonesian, not Korean. Karena saya bisa bahasa Indonesia saya tahu kita bisa bekerja sama. Dan tanba ha'u bele ko'alia Tetun ita bele serbisu hamutuk. The translation, from Indonesian and Tetun, is: because I can speak some Indonesian and some Tetun, I know that we can work together.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In February of this year, the Prime Minister and the President of the Republic of Indonesia, Prabowo Subianto, signed the historic Australia-Indonesia Treaty on Common Security, reflecting the close friendship, partnership and deep trust between Australia and Indonesia. The treaty takes our defence cooperation to a new level. Indonesia's status as a key security partner has been solidified, with this treaty supporting bilateral coordination on supply chains, maritime security and enabling faster responses to potential regional crises.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia and Indonesia also agreed to strengthen two-way investment through a memorandum of understanding between the Australian government and the Indonesian sovereign wealth fund Danantara. The agreement will increase cooperation in information sharing and help identify opportunities for increased two-way investment, enhancing our shared economic security and resilience. It builds on work to deepen Australia's economic engagement with Indonesia, which is of enormous value to both countries and a key part of Australia's broader effort to diversify our economy through growing markets in South-East Asia. One of the key trading commodities is live cattle, and we support the live export industry a hundred per cent.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Prime Minister said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">I have come to our region first—because our region comes first. I am here in Indonesia because no relationship is more important to Australia than this one. And no nation is more important to the prosperity, security and stability of the Indo-Pacific than Indonesia.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia is committed to boosting trade and investment in the region through <span style="font-style:italic;">Invested: </span><span style="font-style:italic;">Australia's South</span><span style="font-style:italic;">e</span><span style="font-style:italic;">ast Asia economic Strategy to 2040</span>. The strategy is supporting Australian businesses to take advantage of trade and investment opportunities in Indonesia. This is the fastest-growing region in the world in human history, and Indonesia is central to that growth. It's already the fourth-largest nation in the world by population and is projected to be the fifth-largest economy in the world by the end of the next decade.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are significant economic and defence opportunities in our bilateral relationship with Indonesia, and there is a clear ambition of both leaders, both governments, to realise these. This position of Indonesia as one of our key partners has been reinforced by Indonesia's role in ensuring the supply of fertiliser for Australian farmers and has provided us with crucial support during the current disruptions in the Middle East. The Albanese Labor government has worked with industry and the Indonesian government to facilitate 250,000 tonnes of additional agricultural grade urea for Australian farmers from Indonesia. This demonstrates the close partnership and friendship between Australia and Indonesia. However, we're at risk of losing something vital to that connection, and that is our ability to speak Bahasa Indonesia, the Indonesian language.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Knowing some Indonesian allows me to have conversations with Indonesian friends and colleagues, and through my adult life this has been good for not only me but our country. Looking through the lens, specifically at Indonesia and Bahasa Indonesia, we indeed are facing a crisis. Across Australia, the study of Bahasa Indonesia is in freefall. Australia has had a long history of teaching Indonesian studies; it has led the world in it since the 1950s. Though it still survives among primary schools that have made Indonesian mandatory, and I thank those schools for their wisdom, the number of students learning the language in secondary school has greatly declined, with the number of year 12 students being halved in a single generation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I was recently contacted by academics that expressed deep concerns about the proposed changes to Deakin University's language program. These changes include downgrading the Indonesian language from a major to a minor, abolishing the Diploma of Languages and, perhaps most concerningly, moving all language provisions from in-person to online. These changes would severely diminish the learning experience of language students and have a significant impact on achieving any level of language fluency. It also flies in the face of this parliamentary committee's findings that we are at a critical juncture for our country's Asia capability.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These proposed changes are an example of a much broader trend, which I'll discuss in a second. But, before I move on from Deakin University, I want to give a quick example. One of my younger brothers studied Bahasa Indonesia at Deakin and got some work experience at the Quiksilver surf company in Bali, but because he spoke Indonesian he went on to have a wonderful first part of his career with that company, and then he moved on to other companies. He's done so well not only because he's a good bloke but also because he spoke Bahasa Indonesia. You'll find a lot of people around our country with similar experiences.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Since 2001, the number of school students learning Indonesian has declined by 10,000 each year. University enrolments have dropped by more than 60 per cent since their peak. Alarmingly, respected schools in the Northern Territory—which is a jurisdiction of our country that I'm proud to represent, and Territorians are so close to Indonesia—like Essington, Haileybury and other schools and universities across our country are considering ending their Indonesian programs altogether. I've spoken with them about this and I hope that they see the wisdom of continuing with Indonesian.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">With the opportunities I've outlined today, my younger brother being one, my experiences is that of so many other Australians. This decrease, Australian students having less opportunity to study Bahasa—whether they be at primary school, secondary school or university—is happening at exactly the wrong time. That is why our government has committed to financial assistance to 600 community language centres and provided record public school funding to get more kids studying languages through to year 12. We're investing in reversing the decline in languages and Asian literacy, with a focus on Indonesian and other priority languages.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My pain point is that this isn't just about classroom learning; it's actually about our national capacity. There are many good programs that have been in existence in the past but are now no longer. I think we should be looking at them and continuing to find those community-to-community approaches, those business-to-business approaches and those subnational engagements as well as the important work that we do at a national level and at a parliament-to-parliament level with our near neighbours in the ASEAN. Australia has always wanted to influence the Indo-Pacific, but we also need to start making the tangible impact that comes from knowing our region better.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>95</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Soon, Zhi MP</name>
                <name.id>298618</name.id>
                <electorate>Banks</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr SOON</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Banks</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:01</span>):  My career prior to entering parliament included time working in education policy, and I'm proud to serve as a member of the House Standing Committee on Education, who conducted this inquiry. At the outset I'd like to add my thanks to the committee staff, who do so much exceptional work and made it possible for the members of the committee to complete this inquiry. I would also like to thank the many community members, academics, education leaders and interested stakeholders in this space who shared their expertise, knowledge and experience with us and contributed significantly to the conclusions of the report.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia faces the most complex strategic environment since the Second World War ,and the challenges it brings are happening on our doorstep in the Asia-Pacific. Our national interests in Asia are unique, and we cannot necessarily rely on other countries to share our priorities. Our capacity to express our own perspectives and assert our own national interests relies on a sovereign capability to engage with our neighbours in the region. What was abundantly clear over the course of our inquiry was that building our Asia capability is of profound importance for our security and economic success in the region, and we have never needed this understanding of both language and culture more than we do right now.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As has been said many times in this place, Indonesia is a pivotal partner of Australia in our region. As a result, it is of significant importance that we develop and maintain an understanding of Indonesia's language and culture amongst our diplomats, business people and communities to facilitate our effective engagement. As the member for Gellibrand noted when he presented the report to the House, as chair of the committee, Indonesia was the first non-Indigenous language spoken in Australia via the Makassan traders interacting with First Nations people on our northern shores. Unfortunately, there has been a concerning trend in Australia's Bahasa Indonesia capability: there are currently fewer than 500 university students studying Bahasa, fewer than there was under the Whitlam government 50 years ago when Australia's population was less than half of what it is today. Indeed, unless something changes, it is projected that Indonesian language teaching is at risk of being functionally extinct in Australia in just five years time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is an ominous sign for our ability to engage with one of our most important partners. With submissions noting that a recent DFAT graduate recruitment round did not include a single Indonesian speaker, the pipelines of Indonesia capable members of our public service and diplomatic corps is at risk of drying up. While this Labor government is making strides in our relationship with Indonesia, signing the Jakarta treaty, more and more these milestones are being met in spite of a waning capability rather than because of a strong capacity. Past Indonesian presidents have made it clear that Australian students learning Bahasa Indonesian, as well as Indonesian students studying here in Australian universities, were integral to our bilateral partnership. The committee recommends that the government treat an Indonesian language schools intervention package as a first-order priority, as well as designating Indonesian as a priority language—both measures that will be important in addressing this decline.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Further, Australia has one of the largest and fastest-growing economies nearby in our region: India. Just six years on from the signing of the comprehensive strategic partnership, we are well positioned to benefit from greater collaboration on science, technology, defence industry, agriculture, education and tourism. This opportunity brings with it a greater incentive for Australians to seek work in key innovative industries or in outward-facing Public Service departments to understand the nuances of South Asian culture and language. However, the various South Asian languages are barely taught in either schools or tertiary institutions across our country. Indeed, in Australia, the teaching of these languages is largely done by diaspora communities and families rather than larger education institutions. Much like Indonesian, the report recommends that Hindi be made a priority language.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, our relationship with China remains crucial. This government, led by the Minister for Foreign Affairs, has ensured that our relationship is characterised by respectful dialogue that promotes active engagement but also defends our national interests. In order to continue to support this important relationship, Australia needs a strong expertise in Chinese language, politics, economics, history and all of its nuances. The National Foundation for Australia-China Relations has outlined that this expertise is in significant need of expansion as currently it is held by a narrow group of subject matter experts.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The recommendations of the report are clear—firstly, a 10-year national Asia capability strategy that recognises the importance of sovereign, homegrown capability. The committee further recommended that the strategy designate Mandarin, Indonesian, Hindi and Japanese as priority languages to attract Commonwealth investment and other measures. A number of the report's recommendations focus on how government can put students on the path to further study and success through targeted reform and investment in primary and secondary schools. One of the stand-out recommendations in this group of proposed reforms is working with the states and territories to encourage students to study one of the priority languages in year 12 by rewarding those who complete their course with a five-point ATAR bonus and pathways to university credit recognition, with guardrails to encourage genuine language attainment. This was based on evidence we heard about some of the concerns individuals had when deciding on whether to learn a language as part of their studies. This sits alongside programs to build our language-capable teaching workforce by helping existing teachers with knowledge of certain languages to upskill in order to teach students formally, ensuring new members of the teaching workforce have Asian language skills by designating places in the Commonwealth Teaching Scholarships Program to individuals with a specialisation in priority languages, and building the skills of both existing and pre-service teachers through an Asian language intensive program that builds specialisations.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The report also suggests reforms to the tertiary education system to recognise the need to develop Asia capability, establish a network of Asian language hubs to guarantee the availability of courses and prioritise government funding for higher degree research, with a focus on Asia—amongst many other reforms.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to conclude with a reflection. I mentioned at the start of my contribution that I worked in education policy previously, but early in my career I also spent time serving as an Australian diplomat. My time at the department gave me so many incredible experiences, including engaging with countries across the Asia-Pacific. I can say from personal experience that Asia capability is pivotal to ensuring Australia is able to effectively engage with our neighbours. So many of our diplomats are genuine subject matter experts, shining examples of what Asia capability looks like in practice. But what is consistent is the starting point: early engagement and interest in Asia. Both our current and most recent former ambassadors to Indonesia can trace their career back to an exchange semester in Indonesia as young students. They now stand at the forefront of our engagement with one of our most important strategic partners.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have so many talented young people who are capable of building that expertise to be the future of our regional engagement, but we must make sure the system allows them to reach that potential. This is what this report emphasises, and I'm pleased to be part of a government that both recognises its importance and is willing to meet the challenges we face head on.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>96</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Leigh, Andrew Keith MP</name>
                <name.id>BU8</name.id>
                <electorate>Fenner</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr LEIGH</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fenner</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Productivity, Competition, Charities and Treasury</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:11</span>):  I have to say what a pleasure it is to be speaking in this debate after the member for Banks, Zhi Soon and just before the members for Reid, Sally Sitou, and Menzies, Gabriel Ng. The Labor caucus has become a better caucus in the 16 years that I've served in it. One of the ways it's become better has not only been your entry into the caucus, Deputy Speaker, but also the greater diversity that we now have in our caucus—a caucus which now looks more like the community that it serves.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When I was five, I briefly attended a primary school in Banda Aceh in the north of Sumatra. Our lessons were conducted in Indonesian, and much of the school day consisted of learning nation-building songs, because the national government wanted to ensure that all Acehnese thought of themselves as Indonesian first and Acehnese second. We played in the muddy playground, and my mother recalls at the time that the sole white child in the class was also the only child whose white shirt came home brown at the end of every day.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My father, Michael Leigh AM, was working at Syiah Kuala University helping strengthen social science research across Indonesian universities and Islamic institutes. My mother was beginning her research on Acehnese crafts, which she turned into a book, <span style="font-style:italic;">Tangan-Tangan Trampil: Seni Kerajinan Aceh = Hands of Time: The Crafts of Aceh</span>, and then on Indonesian education, including the Pancasila principles, which became her doctoral thesis. We lived in Aceh for two years and in Jakarta for a year, and that helped shape how I see our region and the value of Australia engaging with the world.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia is at its best when we see multiculturalism as a strength and international engagement as a quality. We benefit from those person-to-person links, which allow Australians to be more secure, to be more economically prosperous and to enjoy so much of what the region has to offer through our outbound tourism and the benefits that inbound tourism brings to Australia in jobs and prosperity. The government has placed the Indo-Pacific at the centre of our foreign policy. The Prime Minister chose Indonesia for his first bilateral visit after the 2022 election. Foreign Minister Wong set herself the task of visiting every ASEAN country except Myanmar in her first year, along with every member of the Pacific Islands Forum. And since we came to office, Australian ministers have made more than 140 visits to South-East Asia, including 20 by the Prime Minister and 31 by the Foreign minister. The PM has attended every summit with ASEAN leaders. The foreign minister has attended every ASEAN Foreign Ministers' Meeting. Showing up is a statement of intent in our region. We have also invited the region to Australia, hosting the ASEAN-Australia Special Summit in Melbourne in 2024, marking 50 years since Australia became ASEAN's first dialogue partner and creating the largest diplomatic gathering Australia had hosted in more than a decade.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have continued to engage with the region through the Jakarta treaty signed this year—the Australia-Indonesia Treaty on Common Security—and through the third Australia-India annual summit held in Melbourne last month, during which Prime Minister Modi visited Australia and agreed to expand the comprehensive strategic partnership and pursue fresh areas of economic cooperation. Australia has supported Timor-Leste's accession as ASEAN's 11th member and stabilised the relationship with China while protecting Australian interests and without compromising what matters to Australians.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our foreign policy is also strengthened through our strong engagement with First Nations Australians. A point that I remember former Foreign minister Bob Carr making to me is that, when you engage in international meetings, your domestic policies and particularly your policies as they relate to First Nations people are taken into account in how other nations engage. Asia accounts for some 60 per cent of our two-way trade, and we benefit from Asia being such a fast-growing region and from our engagement in the region.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It's in that context that the government commissioned the House of Representatives Standing Committee on Education to complete a report titled <span style="font-style:italic;">Security and </span><span style="font-style:italic;">prosperity </span><span style="font-style:italic;">in Asia: building Asia capability in Australia through the education system and beyond</span>. I commend the member for Gellibrand, Tim Watts, for his leadership on this report. It received some 195 submissions and held 11 public hearings. It defines Asia capability broadly, including language proficiency and cultural literacy, country knowledge and regional experience. Its main argument is that Asia capability is a sovereign capability, one that Australia can exercise in its own right.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are some really troubling statistics in the report. Domestic university enrolments in South-East Asian languages fell 75 per cent between 2005 and 2024. Of Australia's one million domestic university students, just 500 are studying Indonesian. At the year 12 level, enrolments in Indonesian fell from 1,161 in 2010 to 486 in 2024. I confess that my own Bahasa has faded over the years, though I do sometimes like to remind my children that, while English just has the word 'hot', Indonesian has 'panas' meaning hot in temperature and 'pedas' meaning spicy. That can help us at dinner. It doesn't help that my Indonesian proficiency is sadly unequal to that of the 500 Australians who are studying at Australian universities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have the example of great scholars such as Herb Feith and Jamie Mackie, whose work built stronger ties, but we need more of that kind of Indonesian engagement. The problem comes too in China expertise. In the five years to 2021, only 17 students completed honours in Chinese studies with language, and, among more than 2,300 postgraduate coursework programs offered by Australian universities, only 21 include an Asia focused specialisation. Hindi is taught at only two Australian universities despite the fact that Australia's Indian diaspora is around a million people, including a terrific community in my electorate of Fenner. The report recommends stronger pathways through schools and university language hubs supported by better national data. It understands that, while AI translation is getting better, it doesn't bring the cultural literacy that bilingualism does. It acknowledges how important it is to have school exchange or university placements. A homestay can create those relationships and memories that can sustain years of study. The report also recognised the way in which Australian institutions can sometimes overlook expertise that is already inside their workplace. Employees notice who gets promoted based on their language skills or their regional networks that sit outside their formal job descriptions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The report also notes that, while Asian-language learning is declining at the school and university levels, we have a great strength in our community language schools. In 2023, 631 community language schools taught more than a hundred languages to over a hundred thousand students. I see in my own electorate the terrific work of community language schools being done. But that is not translated into formal skills recognition or into community teachers having workable pathways into qualified classroom teaching.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We need to see more Australian business leaders championing Australian capability in position descriptions. We need to see more board members asking whether regional strategy draws on people with genuine country knowledge. We need to have universities and employers maintaining a closer conversation about demand which allows students to see clear pathways into great jobs as a result of studying Indonesian or Hindi. We need to support more Asian Australian staff into senior roles through peak bodies such that exist in the legal services sector. Organisations such as Asialink, with whom I spoke last Friday, are doing a power of good in building these skills across the region.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When I sat in that Banda Aceh classroom, my understanding of Indonesian came through songs and stories. Today, we need that expertise built through business ties, and this terrific report is a great place to start.</span>
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                <page.no>97</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Sitou, Sally MP</name>
                <name.id>298121</name.id>
                <electorate>Reid</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Reid</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:21</span>):  When I was younger, with a lot of obligation on my part and no sense of joy, I had to trek off to Chinese school because it was something that my parents felt very strongly about. I hated it and resisted it, and therefore my Mandarin language skills have been stuck at the age of eight. I have now inflicted that same chore on my son. Every Friday afternoon, after school, I drive him to Chinese school. He is as reluctant a Chinese student as I was. But it was important that I went to Chinese school. It is important that he goes to Chinese school. We are trying to foster a love of the language with him. It is one of the most frustrating languages to learn and speak, but we're trying. We try because it is important for our family. It's important that he can speak to his grandparents. But it's also important that he has a strong connection to his heritage. That is why we will continue to persist every Friday afternoon.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">A few decades after a very petulant Sally was trying to avoid Chinese school—I lived in Beijing in 2008. And I wish I had paid more attention in Chinese school! But it was during that time that I really understood the power of having an understanding of the country, its cultures and traditions, the power of that for Australia and the power of the ability to bridge cultures, have a shared understanding of each other and to bring the best of both worlds. It was an incredible time to be living in China. It is a memory that I will always, always treasure. It is an experience that we hope our son will get an opportunity to have as well.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The member for Fenner remarked upon the diversity of our caucus. I am very proud to be part of an extraordinary Labor government which has a female majority, and we have incredible diversity in our caucus. Sitting alongside my friends and good colleagues the member for Banks, who spoke earlier; the member for Tangney, who speaks an incredible array of languages; the members for Holt, Swan and Menzies; and everyone who comes into this place with different backgrounds and experiences is a real privilege for me—to get to serve alongside them.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But of course the original, the OG, is Senator Wong, someone I have looked up to for a really long time and the first Asian-born minister our country has had. It is wonderful to have her as our foreign minister. And that is in the great Labor tradition. We are a party that has always sought to build close relations with our neighbours, and we have done that for more than half a century now. It was Prime Minister Gough Whitlam who established diplomatic relations with China in 1972. It was Prime Minister Bob Hawke who drove the creation of APEC. It was Prime Minister Paul Keating who said that our engagement with the region has to be uncompromising, unfailing and tenacious. It was Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, our first Mandarin-speaking Prime Minister—who puts my Mandarin to shame!—who said that Australia is fundamentally enmeshed in Asia. And it was the Gillard Labor government that produced the 'Asian century' white paper, setting out our national plan for engagement with Asia.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">With prime ministers from Whitlam to Hawke and Keating to Rudd and Gillard and now to Prime Minister Albanese, ably assisted by foreign minister Penny Wong, you know that this government has invested in our relationships with our region, with our neighbours in Asia, and you have seen the extraordinary amount of effort and time that has been put into those relationships, including a really extraordinary visit that foreign minister Penny Wong made to her hometown in Malaysia. I think that was a beautiful tribute to her connection to the country she was born in as well as the country she now serves as foreign minister.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But those relationships cannot exist only between leaders or diplomats. They have to exist between our people. We need Australians who understand and love the languages, cultures, histories and societies of the countries that are closest to us. That is what we mean when we talk about Asian capability. Australia's prosperity is interlinked with our neighbours. It is interlinked with Asia. Trade with our Asian partners is growing, and exporters rely on Asian markets. We rely on Asian markets for the supply chains that stretch across the region. Some of the fastest-growing economies in the world are right on our doorstep, and that is something Australian businesses can take advantage of.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And we are succeeding. We are forming those bonds, we are making those trades and we are opening up those markets. But it requires people to understand how business is conducted and to understand local institutions and cultures in those countries and the contexts they operate in. That's the only way you can build lasting relationships: if it is done on mutual understanding. And as much as Asia capability is important for Australian businesses, trade, investment and jobs, it is equally important to our national security. We live in a region that is experiencing profound strategic change. Australia needs more diplomats, defence personnel, public servants, researchers and national security professionals who understand our closest neighbours and who know their political systems, their histories and their languages and who understand how Australia and the world look from their perspective.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is why this report is so important, because it asks us how we build Australia's Asia capability, not just for the next few years but for generations ahead. When challenges arise, whether they are economic or security related, those skills and relationships cannot simply be switched on; they take years to build and develop. That is why this report describes Asia capability as a vital sovereign capability and recommends a 10-year national capability strategy, bringing together departments of education, foreign affairs and defence and state governments across Australia.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are a few places in Australia where the potential of that capability is more obvious than in my community. We are home to families from right across Asia. You see that in many of the suburbs, such as Burwood, Strathfield, Homebush and Lidcombe, and you see that in the small businesses, schools and community groups. People in my community speak Mandarin, Korean, Hindi, Punjabi, Vietnamese, Tamil and Bengali—a whole range of Asian languages—at home. That is an enormous asset and one that we need to nurture.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Unfortunately, that hasn't been something that previous governments have focused on. I was speaking to a professor at the University of Sydney, and he said that because of the way our education system is set up, where we're not supporting the learning of a second language, we are wasting a lot of this incredible talent. Young children are coming into our education system multilingual, having learnt different languages at home, but, by the time they go through our education system and finish, they come out monolingual, not having retained their other languages. I think that is a real shame, so I really welcome the report and commend the work that the committee has done. I commend the work that the member for Gellibrand has done in chairing this committee. They have identified that we do need to support Asian capability and Asian language learning and that is going to help Australia's national security interests as well as our economic interests.</span>
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                <page.no>99</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Coffey, Renee MP</name>
                <name.id>312323</name.id>
                <electorate>Griffith</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms COFFEY</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Griffith</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:31</span>):  Our minister for education called education the great equaliser in an unequal world. I strongly share that belief, and I'm confident that it's shared by many members in this place. Many years ago, I completed my own teacher training. I'm also a mother to two young boys. I know education shapes every child's future. Every child deserves the best education Australia can offer, whatever school their family chooses. Good teachers shape learning outcomes, civics education and media literacy protect our democracy, and, importantly, languages open up other parts of the world.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These beliefs are why I am so pleased to serve on the House Standing Committee on Education. I am proud of the report our committee has presented, <span style="font-style:italic;">Security and prosperity in Asia</span><span style="font-style:italic;">:</span><span style="font-style:italic;"></span><span style="font-style:italic;">b</span><span style="font-style:italic;">uilding Asia capability in Australia through the education system and beyond</span>. At the outset, I want to thank our chair, the member for Gellibrand, and the deputy chair, the member for Nicholls, for leading all of my committee colleagues through this process.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia's security and prosperity are tied to our region. We need people who speak its languages, understand its cultures and histories and have built trusted relationships there. We refer to this as 'Asia capability'. It is a national capability built in classrooms, universities and workplaces and through time spent in the region. The evidence of our nation's capability showed a pipeline deep in trouble. Domestic enrolments in South-East Asian languages at Australian universities fell by 75 per cent from 2005 to 2024. Take the study of Indonesian, for example, where we heard some of the most concerning evidence. Barely 500 of Australia's one million domestic university students study Indonesian. At school, 3.3 per cent of Australian year 12 students studied a priority Asian language in 2023. Year 12 Indonesian enrolments fell from 1,160 students in 2010 to 486 nationwide in 2024. In my home state of Queensland, the figures are even more stark. Four students across our state were projected to sit a year 12 Indonesian exam in 2026. Witnesses to our inquiry warned that Indonesian teaching faces functional extinction in Australia by 2031. Indonesia is one of Australia's closest and most consequential neighbours. Losing our ability to teach Indonesian weakens our ability to understand the country and build strong relationships with its people.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Translation technology in the age of AI just cannot fill that gap. We heard evidence that software can translate words, but it can't read a room, understand history and build trust and relationships. The Australian Curriculum, Assessment and Reporting Authority, ACARA, conveyed this to our committee very well. A calculator can produce an answer, but the user still needs enough mathematics to know whether that answer makes sense. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia's Asian Australian communities hold deep language skills and cultural knowledge, yet heritage language skills often fall across generations. Families told our inquiry they want formal study for their children. Many South Asian Australian students have little access to Hindi, Punjabi, Bengali or Tamil. We have wonderful language programs right across my community of Griffith through so many of our schools. Of the 19 state schools in and around Griffith, 11 offer at least one Asian language. Japanese is taught at nine of these state schools and Chinese at five. That gives us a good base, but the full picture shows how narrow the choices remain. Those 19 state schools provide 35 language offerings; 14 offer Chinese or Japanese, and the remaining 21 are European or other languages. The gap is clearer among 13 schools that offer only one language. Just five teach an Asian language. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have strong foundations across Griffith, but the pathway can break as soon as a student changes school. A child may begin Japanese at primary school and then enter a secondary school where it is unavailable. Another student may study Chinese through to year 12 and then find no clear university course or career path. A passionate teacher can spark a lifelong interest in a language and culture, but we cannot ask individual teachers to carry a national capability on their shoulders alone. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have local examples of learning experiences that this report seeks to support. We've got so many great state schools offering fabulous programs, including West End State School, East Brisbane State School and Brisbane State High School. Among other colleges in my area, Cannon Hill Anglican College has run Japan tours for their students for more than 20 years. Senior students visit Tokyo, Kyoto and Hiroshima. They complete a four-day homestay. Peter Nakamura, the college's head of faculty for languages, has seen students use their Japanese in daily life. Some return as adults to reconnect with host families. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Last year at Villanova College, students joined more than 450 language learners from 20 schools at the University of Queensland's Go Borderless Languages Experience Day. Villanova students then took part in a 13-day China immersion tour, using their Chinese in Beijing and attending school in Nanjing. These experiences give students a reason to keep studying, but not all students and all families are able to afford access to these types of programs. We know interest grows through real contact. The proposed Asia leader schools draw on this practice and act as hubs for high-quality teaching. The proposed Australian Schools in Asia Consortium will help schools run immersion and exchange programs. ATAR incentives and university credit pathways will reward continued study. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I know the effect of cultural immersion from my own life. For me, that particular exposure was in the Pacific. At 16, I travelled to the Solomon Islands, and I stayed at the Melanesian Brotherhood Central Headquarters at Tabalia and at Selwyn College near Maravovo as part of my school trip. I fell in love with the Solomon Islands language and culture, and I made lifelong friends. Anyone who knew me as a teenager can probably picture the Solomon Islands material that filled my bedroom. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I had the great honour of meeting the new Prime Minister of the Solomon Islands, the Hon. Matthew Wale, during his visit to Australia earlier this year, in June. The Solomon Islands sit in the Pacific, and the same lesson applies across our broader region. Time in another country builds understanding that no app can reproduce. Australia and the Solomon Islands share ancient cultural links, close geography and a history of standing together through hard times. Meeting the Prime Minister brought me back to the friendships and curiosity that began when I was 16 years old. We need to make sure our future generations of young people have that same chance to form those connections in our region too, particularly in Asia. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee made 34 recommendations. The report recommends a national Asia capability strategy, backed by a national data framework and dashboard. Australia needs clear goals and reliable information on subjects, enrolments, teachers and pathways. It recommends Asia leader schools and the Australian Schools in Asia Consortium. It recommends the recognition of heritage language learning in classrooms. It backs targeted support for language teachers, a larger supply of specialist teachers and continuing professional development. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For universities, the report recommends placing Asia capability among the priorities set by the Australian Tertiary Education Commission. It seeks protection for nationally strategic Asian languages in university funding agreements and shared language hubs for cross-institutional study. The report calls on the Commonwealth to lead through its own recruitment. Government agencies should recognise Asia capability as a priority in relevant jobs. Students need to see where language and regional knowledge can take them. Together, these recommendations connect primary school interest with secondary study, university courses and real careers. They support the teachers and institutions needed at each stage.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I would like to take this opportunity to thank every person and organisation that made a submission and attended our public hearings. The committee received hundreds of contributions and heard from dozens of witnesses, many of whom have spent their working lives helping Australians learn about our region. Teachers kept small classes open; researchers protected courses under pressure. Their participation shows parliamentary committees at their very best. Members tested evidence, asked questions and weighed different views. Good policy grows from this exchange. It helps us as elected representatives make better decisions. I offer special thanks to the outstanding staff in the committee secretariats as well, Joel Bateman and Lisa Deans. Their expertise helped turn hundreds of submissions, hearing transcripts and policy ideas into a clear report for our parliament, with the member for Gellibrand's leadership.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For local students, this report highlights the opportunity before us. It is about the child learning Japanese at East Brisbane State School, who deserves a path through secondary school. It's about the student studying Chinese at Brisbane State High School, who deserves to see a future for that skill. Australia needs the knowledge and confidence to make its own way in Asia. The capability starts with a teacher, a classroom and the chance to meet people in our region. To every teacher, academic, student and community leader who contributed: thank you. You kept these subjects alive through years of uneven policy attention. This report is for you and for the students you have yet to teach.</span>
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                <page.no>100</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Ng, Gabriel MP</name>
                <name.id>316052</name.id>
                <electorate>Menzies</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr NG</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Menzies</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:41</span>):  I rise today to speak on the House Standing Committee on Education's report, <span style="font-style:italic;">Security and </span><span style="font-style:italic;">prosperity </span><span style="font-style:italic;">in Asia</span><span style="font-style:italic;">:</span><span style="font-style:italic;"> building Asia capability</span><span style="font-style:italic;">in Australia through the education system and beyond</span>. At its heart, this report asks a very simple but important question: what kind of nation do we want Australia to become? Do we want an Australia that engages with our neighbours in Asia, opens the pathways of cultural and economic exchange and seizes the opportunities of being in the fastest developing region in human history or an Australia that is insular, backward looking and stagnant?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As my friend the member for Banks said earlier in regard to this report, this is one of the most complex geopolitical environments in our region since World War II. There are many areas where there is strategic competition, and we need to ensure that we maintain an international rules based order built on free trade. The Albanese Labor government and our minister for foreign affairs have demonstrated again and again that we have the capability to be a mature and long-term government that builds stronger ties within our region. We've built stronger security ties with Indonesia, Singapore and Japan—as well as, just this week, Vietnam—and we've repaired the relationship in our first term of government with our largest trading partner, China. Geography has made us a part of this region, but the choices we make today will determine whether we have the opportunity to grow with it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge the outstanding work of the chair, the member for Gellibrand, and every member of the committee on this report. Together, they have produced a thoughtful and forward-looking commentary that challenges us to make the most of the incredible opportunities before us. The committee has made 34 recommendations to reprioritise Asia within Australia's education system and ensure all Australians have the opportunity to learn about Asia and its languages. Together, they present a vision for a more confident Australia that understands its neighbours, embraces its diversity and equips future generations to thrive in the region we call home.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">A child who learns an Asian language in primary school may become a diplomat who negotiates Australia's interests decades from now. A student who participates in an exchange program may one day establish a business that creates jobs here, in Australia. A young Australian who develops friendships across our region may go on to become a researcher, a teacher or a public servant who strengthens Australia's place in the Indo-Pacific. Yet the inquiry also heard a number of warnings.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Participation in Asian language has declined markedly. The report warns that Indonesian language teaching is set to become functionally extinct within the next five years. Only 3.3 per cent of Australian year 12 students studied Chinese, Indonesian or Japanese in 2023, which is down from 4.7 per cent in 2012. Domestic enrolments in South-East Asian languages at Australian universities fell by 75 per cent between 2005 and 2024. That's not a trajectory that we want to see continue.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Specialist university programs are under increasing programs. Opportunities for young Australians to immerse themselves in the region remain uneven and, too often, depend on the region where they live, circumstances or financial means rather than just their talent, ambition and hard work.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">At precisely the moment Australia's role in Asia is becoming more important than ever, our engagement with it risks falling behind, and that should concern every one of us. If we fail to invest in Asia capability today, we are narrowing Australia's future. We are limiting the relationships we can build, opportunities we can seize and the influence that we can exert in Asia that will shape this century.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In my community in Menzies, these connections are part of everyday life. At the last census, around 44 per cent of people were born overseas, compared with 28 per cent nationally. We are one of the most diverse communities in the country. Forty-six per cent of people speak a language other than English at home, and, of the top five places of birth, four are in Asia: China, Malaysia, India and Hong Kong. If you walk through our local shopping precinct, you hear the languages from across the region. If you visit our school, you meet students whose families have stories that stretch across continents. If you speak to local businesses, you quickly discover that many of their customers, suppliers and partners are found throughout Asia.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Last Saturday night, I was fortunate to be at the Asian Business Association of Whitehorse's Victorian excellence business awards with the Prime Minister, where we celebrated many multicultural businesses across a range of fields—like tourism, hospitality, trade—and we were able to recognise some of those outstanding Victorian businesses who give so much to our state and so much to our community. I'd like to congratulate the president of ABAW, Bihong Wang, on another excellent event, as well as all of the executive and the volunteers with ABAW, the award nominees and the award recipients.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As someone of mixed Chinese Singaporean and Anglo-Celtic Australian heritage, engagement with Asia is something which is deeply personal to me. When we were growing up, we were fortunate enough to be able to visit my dad's family in Singapore every few years and enjoy the amazing food that's there as well as, as I grew older, learn about the incredible story of Singapore and how it had gone from being a third-world country to a first-world country within a generation. When my dad was growing up, he slept in a house with a dirt floor in the same room as his five brothers and sisters. Now, my cousins live in high-rise apartments that are built on reclaimed land. They've got a world-class public transport system that I think many people in Australia would envy, incredibly high rates of homeownership and a government that, in many ways, delivers on the social contract and has enjoyed the support of the Singaporean people for a long time. I think there is a lot that we could learn from Singapore.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My wife is Japanese, and I was lucky enough to live in Japan for 18 months, which is where we met. I was teaching English there. Similarly, there is a lot that we could learn from Japan in terms of public transport and innovations like modular housing, which they have and use extensively. That could be part of the picture that we could take from that country to learn how we could increase our productivity in the construction sector.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Indeed, many Australian businesses and developers are looking to other countries, as this report would recommend, to learn about their innovations and their expertise. That is why one of the committee's most important recommendations is the development of a 10-year national Asia capability strategy. For many Australians, school is where curiosity first takes root. It's where a child hears another language for the first time, where teachers bring the rich culture and history of our region to life. The committee's recommendation to establish Asia leader schools recognises that we already have extraordinary examples of excellence across Australia—schools that have built strong language programs and have forged lasting partnerships with communities throughout Asia, schools where cultural understanding is a part of everyday learning.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In Menzies, we're fortunate enough to have schools and community organisations already fostering many of these connections. Some of those would be language schools on the weekends. We have a number of Chinese language schools where people of Chinese heritage and also the wider community have the opportunity to learn a language that, again, helps us connect better with one of our largest trading partners. These schools remind us that education is about preparing young people to participate confidently in an increasingly connected world. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee also recognises that some of the most powerful lessons take place beyond the classrooms. There is something transformative about being able to go to another country, navigate their culture and discover that what once felt unfamiliar is beginning to feel understood. No textbook can fully replace the experience of living and studying and working alongside people whose experiences are very different from our own. Programs like the New Colombo Plan have shown us what is possible. They have enabled thousands of young Australians to build friendships, develop professional networks and gain a deeper appreciation for our region. Those young Australians will return home with a broader perspective and greater confidence to represent Australia on the world stage. That is one of the great opportunities that building our Asian capability brings.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But it's also one of the great opportunities that a diverse Australia brings. As I said, we have people of diverse backgrounds, of multicultural backgrounds, in my electorate of Menzies, and them being able to bring their language skills, their cultural skills and also the people-to-people networks and the business opportunities that brings means that we'll be able to better engage with our region and with the opportunities that the future presents. That's what we mean when we say diversity is one of our greatest strengths, and that is why we're absolutely committed to multiculturalism in Australia. I commend this report to the House. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>ADJOURNMENT</title>
        <page.no>102</page.no>
        <type>ADJOURNMENT</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">ADJOURNMENT</span>
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              <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms </span>
              <span style="font-weight:bold;">Clutterham</span>
              <span style="font-weight:bold;">:</span>  I move:</span>
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            <span class="HPS-Small">That the Federation Chamber do now adjourn.</span>
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          <title>Australian Parliament, Small Business</title>
          <page.no>102</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Small Business</span>
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              <page.no>102</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Spender, Allegra MP</name>
              <name.id>286042</name.id>
              <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SPENDER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wentworth</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:52</span>):  I want to talk today about the disconnect between politics and community and then about small business and why that should be our focus right now. When I talk to people about what they want from politics, what they ask is, firstly, that their interests are put first and that they are listened to. But that is not what we have seen in the parliament this week. We have seen a government who has, despite the community having very strong views on what needs to be done on gambling reform, refused to listen to the full list of what the community wants and instead doing what vested interests want instead. That's why people don't trust government at the moment. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The second issue is about listening and talking about the things that are most important. What we've heard a lot in parliament this week is about whether the Prime Minister's comments on a month-old podcast were an innuendo. Now, I thought the Prime Minister behaved inappropriately on that podcast, but frankly, people are not stopping me in the street about this. They're stopping me in the street to talk about things that really make a difference to their lives. This is what this parliament should be focused on. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's also our behaviour. Community Strong has been running a survey about why people hate politicians, and 70 per cent said it was because vested interests wield too much power. One respondent said that question time should be something kids could watch and see the best of leadership, but instead it's the most appalling version of a schoolyard. That was again on display this week.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We know that Australians are having a hard time. Shane Wright pointed out this week that Australia's misery index—the combination of the unemployment rate, the inflation rate and the official interest rate—indicates Australians are more miserable than they were a year ago, and we shouldn't be surprised that they're starting to vote like it. I appreciate the government has tried to address productivity, which is so critical to making a difference in people's lives. I am pleased to see, for instance, in the budget, there were things that I have been advocating for and were delivered, including: changes to ESVCLP and VCLP; Your Future, Your Super; RG 97; loss carryback and refundability; and other tax changes to help redirect productive capital away from unproductive housing.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Some of those things will make a difference, but there is a long, long way to go to make the difference Australians are seeking in their lives. I think the focus needs to be squarely back on how we make Australian businesses more successful and reduce the cost of their inputs in doing business, because then they can actually reduce the costs of the things that they provide to Australians. That is a big focus for me.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to talk about three things that are key for small business. Three things that small-business owners tell me matter to them right now, and on which the government could take action right now, are access to capital, social media and regulation. One in five small businesses has trouble accessing finance when they need it. More work needs to be done to make sure that small businesses can access our banking system, but one area in which we can immediately help is access to working capital. The government should be adopting my proposal to tie payment times to procurement, setting a real enforceable standard so that, if you don't pay your small businesses on time, you don't get to access government funding.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Second is social media. Until recently, payment disputes were the largest area of complaint made to the small-business ombudsman; now, it's their social media account. Particularly since COVID, social media has become the primary communication channel for advertising and brand awareness. That has democratised the space and sparked innovation, but the latter can be pulled up without notice and without redress. I understand social media companies face competing demands to simultaneously come down hard on scams and fraud and also be the main channel for millions of businesses. But, with no external dispute resolution, small businesses hit by false-positive account flags are flooding my office every month, asking for help to restore their accounts. That's why we need a dedicated ombudsman that can better manage these sorts of disputes—so those businesses can keep on trading.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Third is regulation. Every government comes to office promising to cut red tape. But, since 2006, the number of restrictive terms and regulations in legislation has actually doubled. Meaningful work to address that means structural changes to incentives on regulators and legislators. That won't happen overnight. But something the government could do right now is lift the small-business threshold from 15 people to at least 25 employees, lifting 46,000 businesses—small businesses by any other measure—out of the red-tape quagmire designed for corporates who are substantially better resourced. These are things that we should be doing right now to make an immediate difference to the lives of people running small businesses and to the lives of our constituents.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">So let's stop taking pot shots at each other, stop listening to the vested interests and get back to helping Australians who are doing it tough.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Medicare, Tertiary Education and Training</title>
          <page.no>103</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Medicare</span>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Tertiary Education and Training</span>
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              <page.no>103</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Thwaites, Kate MP</name>
              <name.id>282212</name.id>
              <electorate>Jagajaga</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  <a href="282212" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms THWAITES</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Jagajaga</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:57</span>):  Our government is delivering real change in communities in Jagajaga, strengthening Medicare, investing in skills and training and providing more support for families. These investments are making a real difference to people at a tough time in my community.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Since we expanded incentives for bulk-billing and for GPs to bulk-bill last November, we have seen more and more GP clinics in Jagajaga move to fully bulk-bill patients. Greensborough Medical and Dental Centre was one of the first local practices to make the switch, and I'm really pleased that others have followed, including Glen Katherine Medical Clinic in St Helena, Eltham Ridge Medical Centre and MacLeod Medical Practice. This means that more people in Jagajaga can see a GP with their Medicare card and without worrying about an out-of-pocket cost. I encourage more local clinics to continue to take up this investment.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I hear constantly from locals about how important it is to them to be able to see a bulk-billing GP. We are supporting this with our Medicare urgent care clinics. We have two Medicare urgent care clinics locally, one in Burgundy Street in Heidelberg and one on Main Road in Eltham. These are supporting our community to get the health care they need when they need it—with their Medicare card. Our government has now made Medicare urgent care clinics a permanent part of our health system, and that's because, as a Labor government, we believe in Medicare. We understand that it is the bedrock of our health system and the bedrock of what Australians expect in terms of being able to access health care.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Those opposite spent years and years attacking Medicare, and they're still at it. John Howard once described bulk-billing as an 'absolute rort'. Through the decade of cut and neglect that we had, the former government basically tried to abolish bulk-billing entirely. That's what their settings did. The current shadow treasurer, the member for Goldstein, has described Medicare as 'a system designed to keep people ill', and, just recently, we've had the shadow minister having to ask the department for help in understanding what Medicare actually means—asking officials to provide a definition. Doesn't that really sum up the attitude of those opposite towards Medicare? Well, Labor know what Medicare means, and we know what it means to have strong Medicare in our communities, where locals can see a GP that is bulk-billed or where they can walk into one of those Medicare urgent care clinics.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our government is also investing in local opportunities for people to get the education and skills they need without the cost holding them back. In Jagajaga, we have two fantastic local TAFE campuses. Melbourne Polytechnic has campuses in both Greensborough and West Heidelberg. Our government has made free TAFE permanent. Through our Key Apprenticeship Program, we're now providing additional support in the occupations that Australia needs, particularly in housing construction and in the transition to net zero.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I was really pleased recently to be able to visit family run Demand Power in West Heidelberg, a business being run by Tracey and Ben. I visited with Minister Andrew Giles to talk about their work and meet the electrical apprentices who are learning their trade there. This is a great local business not just supporting the transition to electrification that's underway in households across our community but also supporting our next generation of workers. If we are going to build more homes, deliver the energy transition and strengthen our care economy, we need to invest in the people who will do that work. That's what this business is doing locally, but it's what our government is supporting local businesses to be able to do, through our programs.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We also, of course, need to be supporting people while they are training. That's why I'm so pleased that we are now supporting students with our Commonwealth Prac Payment, changing the fact that, for too many students taking up some of these really important professions, it's been too hard because of that requirement to do unpaid placements. Students undertaking mandatory placements can now receive more than $338 a week, and from July next year we'll be supporting students in 10 additional allied health disciplines, including physiotherapy and clinical psychology. We expect that around 95,000 students each year will benefit.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Again, this highlights the difference between our approach and the Liberals'. When the Liberals were last in government in Victoria, they cut around $1 billion in TAFE funding. They sacked more than 2,000 TAFE teachers, and they closed 22 campuses, including in Greensborough. My community has not forgotten this. They have not forgotten the record when it comes to the Liberals. When it comes to TAFE and training, they close it. When it comes to Medicare, they rip it away. Our government is investing in communities; those opposite seek to shut them down.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Flinders Electorate: Sport, Flinders Electorate: Schools</title>
          <page.no>104</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Flinders Electorate: Sport</span>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Flinders Electorate: Schools</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>104</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McKenzie, Zoe MP</name>
              <name.id>124514</name.id>
              <electorate>Flinders</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
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                  <a href="124514" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms McKENZIE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Flinders</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:02</span>):  Today I rise to congratulate three outstanding athletes from Flinders who represented Australia at the 2026 Commonwealth Games in Glasgow. One is Thomas McGough, who's a year 10 student. He became the youngest male in our Commonwealth Games athletics team at just 15. Tom ran the race of his life in the men's 100 metre T38 final, missing the podium by less than two-tenths of a second. But that is not a defeat; that's a down payment on a very bright future indeed in Australian sport.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Eileen Cikamatana lives and trains on the Mornington Peninsula. She claimed gold in the women's 86 kilogram weightlifting, with a games record of 248 kilograms. It was her third consecutive Commonwealth Games gold, a feat matched by only two other women in our history.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Emily Whitehead, born and raised in Flinders, competed in her third Commonwealth Games in women's artistic gymnastics, helping the Australian team win gold. A career that began at the age of four in a local gym has become one of the great sporting stories of our region.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">All three did Flinders and Australia proud in Glasgow, and so did the local clubs, coaches and families who backed these athletes long before. It's a reminder of what you can achieve in this country with talent, hard work and a supportive community behind you—none of which, incidentally, the Victorian government required to set the world's record for the most expensive way in history to watch someone else's opening ceremony. I nevertheless commend these extraordinary athletes and their endeavour.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Children sit at the heart of everything we do in this place. It's why visiting schools is such a favoured task amongst all of us who are in this place, regardless of which side of politics we represent. Last Wednesday I had the enormous pleasure of spending an hour with half-a-dozen student leaders from John Paul College in Frankston, a secondary college which services families in the seats of both Flinders and Dunkley. Together with the member for Dunkley, I met these extraordinary young women at an event hosted by the Committee for Frankston &amp; Mornington Peninsula a couple of months earlier. That event brought together politicians from federal, state and council levels, and we listened to what these future leaders from schools across the peninsula wanted us to know about their generation.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The three speakers that day from John Paul spoke with poise, grace and an awe-striking sense of responsibility and commitment to their communities, to their families and indeed to the future of Australia. One said, 'I am my parents' hope, and I carry their sacrifice.' Thinking about her life after school, another said, 'If I leave, who helps my family at 4 am?' Finally, another beckoned to all of us and said: 'Don't just listen to these stories. Use them.'</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I was so blown away by what I heard that day that I asked them, and indeed their teacher Jack Charleston, if I could come up to Frankston and have a proper conversation with them. Last week we sat down with no agenda and no predetermined topics for conversation—just an afternoon in the classroom, speaking and listening to each other. We compared stories about our upbringing, about being grateful for our first job and the discipline that it gave us to manage both school achievement and professional development while still being teenagers.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">They told me about their experience at being first-generation Australians, navigating an education system that's worlds away from what their parents knew and being the interpreter for their parents of that Australian system, and of their extraordinary achievements in it. They told me stories of balancing work with studies. In one case that work included caring for NDIS recipients in the few hours between finishing and starting school each day. I thank these young women—Harlene, Alicia, Molly, Rhianna, Rena and Charlotte—for trusting me and for speaking freely with me and not finding me odd to be both so interested in them and inspired by them. These young women showed leadership and intellect well beyond their years.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">If you're ever in doubt about the future of this country, I strongly recommend that you sit down with a group of school students and listen to them, by which I mean really listen to them. You will leave with a strong sense that what we do here really matters and that in their generation we will be even stronger.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Stewart, Dr Heather, Macquarie Electorate: Greater Schools Sydney Cattle Competition, Macquarie Electorate: Acknowledgements</title>
          <page.no>105</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Stewart, Dr Heather</span>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Macquarie Electorate: Greater Schools Sydney Cattle Competition</span>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Macquarie Electorate: Acknowledgements</span>
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              <page.no>105</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Templeman, Susan MP</name>
              <name.id>181810</name.id>
              <electorate>Macquarie</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                  <a href="181810" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms TEMPLEMAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Macquarie</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:07</span>):  It's a really sad fact that you learn so much more about your fellow community members only when they're gone, and that is certainly the case for a wonderful Blue Mountains resident, Dr Heather Stewart. Heather joined my Labor Party branch just in the last year or so, but she'd been active in the Yes23 campaign and the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">While I had insight into her passion for social justice and her love for her son, Jack, I now know much more about her career of caring as a GP across the Blue Mountains, Hawkesbury and Western Sydney; as an inspiring role model to other young women doctors; and as a wonderful, warm, kind, caring, funny and straight-talking GP, in the words of her patients, until her retirement in 2018.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">As Trish Doyle, the state member for Blue Mountains, said in her tribute, 'Heather was a passionate advocate for LGBTIQA+ colleagues in the medical profession and the local community.' Chris Marks said: 'We all worked so well together to make a difference in the lives of women and children. Heather was passionate, dynamic and so knew her job as a GP—so pleased to have shared that period of my life around her till the early 90's.' I think all of us who had the opportunity to hear her thoughtful insights on policy and see her personal commitment in her retirement years to participating in campaigns for change agree that we were so lucky to have shared a period of our lives with Heather.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">To Jack, Elizabeth, Calum and her family and many friends—and I include the member for Whitlam, who's in the chamber—I express my deepest condolences on behalf of a very grateful community.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Hawkesbury has a proud history in agriculture and animal production, and I was delighted to again attend and officially open the Greater Schools Sydney Cattle Competition recently. This year I co-hosted it with Dr Rob Zammit. Over the past 100 days or so, students from across Greater Sydney have taken part in a steer growth and development project, giving them a unique hands-on experience. I'm sure it will go on to inspire many of these students to continue developing their skills in agriculture and animal production. I give a special mention to the teachers, many of whom are now retired but keep doing this competition, and to all the students who represented schools across Macquarie, including Richmond High, Colo High, Bede Polding College, St Columba's College and Arndell Anglican College. It was fantastic to see your hard work come together on that day with those beautiful animals.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">What a privilege it was to join in with Penrith mayor Todd Carney for Penrith City Council's Local Celebration Awards. Among those celebrated were Emu Plains local Bruce Turner AM, who was named Honoured Citizen, a fitting tribute to a man with more than 50 years of service to his community. I'm told that much of Bruce's work has been behind the scenes, which goes with the territory for an auditor. His contribution to auditing has been recognised internationally. Nationally, Bruce received an AM in 2015 and his work has extended to agencies like the New South Wales Ombudsman and ICAC. Even closer to home, his contribution to Penrith is recognised at the ATO site and on the Penrith City Wall of Achievement. Alongside this is Bruce's passion for preserving the heritage of the Nepean region, with a trilogy of books that capture local history and events and ensure that so many local stories will be known by future generations. It is a very well deserved honour, and it was great to see Bruce's family celebrate with him.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We also marked Farah Madon's AM at the Australia Day honours. She received it for her service to architecture and her advocacy for people with a disability. While not a constituent of mine, I also want to mention Michael Allen PSM and now OAM. Mike is chair of Link Wentworth, which is working with the federal and state governments to expand the region's affordable and social housing. Mike was one of many who I cheered on at their Home Sweet annual sleep-out at the Sydney International Regatta Centre. Also celebrated was Michael Kovacs AFSM, who received a King's birthday honour for his work with the rural fire service since the day he joined at the age of 14 in 1988. He has fought many fires across my region, including the Black Summer fires. These are all shining examples of what makes the Nepean community special.</span>
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                  <a href="11788" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Aldred</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  My condolences on the passing of Dr Heather.</span>
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                <page.no>106</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Aldred, Mary MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>11788</name.id>
                <electorate>Monash</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Roadcraft, Noosa Dolphins Rugby Union Club, Maryborough Military Aviation Museum Association</title>
          <page.no>106</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Roadcraft</span>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Noosa Dolphins Rugby Union Club</span>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Maryborough Military Aviation Museum Association</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>106</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">O'Brien, Llew MP</name>
              <name.id>265991</name.id>
              <electorate>Wide Bay</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                  <a href="265991" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LLEW O'BRIEN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wide Bay</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:12</span>):  I rise to express my strong support for Roadcraft and their application for funding under the Queensland government's Community Road Safety Grants program. As caravan ownership and recreational travel continue to grow in popularity, it is vital that drivers understand the unique challenges associated with towing large caravans. Since 2014, Roadcraft at Gympie has played an important role in improving road safety through its specialised towing courses and practical driver education programs. Led by Sharlene Makin, Roadcraft has a strong reputation for delivering high-quality, hands-on training that gives drivers the skills, knowledge and confidence to tow caravans safely and responsibly. Safe towing requires specialised skills and practical experience that are not typically covered through standard drivers licence requirements.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Roadcraft's proposal aligns closely with the objectives of the Community Road Safety Grants program, which seeks to increase participation in caravan skills, education and practical training. With their proven track record of delivering real outcomes, Roadcraft are well placed to achieve positive outcomes with the support of this funding. Roadcraft's proposal will deliver safer and better informed drivers and stronger safety outcomes for Queensland's growing caravan towing community. I commend Roadcraft for their ongoing commitment to road safety and driver education.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">For over 36 years, the Noosa Dolphins Rugby Union Club has been at the heart of Noosa's community, but significant infrastructure upgrades are needed to accommodate the club's future. I recently met with Andrew Higginbotham and Jon Lewis from the club, who outlined plans to lift the Dolphins facilities to state and national competition standards, allowing the club to attract larger sporting events and championships and improving amenities for women, families and people with disability. These upgrades will provide greater accessibility, attract more visitors and encourage more overnight stays and more spending in local businesses, which will strengthen Noosa's economy. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The club is already a vital community hub, with local schools and community groups using its facilities for sports training, events and festivals. Investment in the upgrade will expand those opportunities for years to come. The project is shovel ready and backed by strong community support, and the club has already made significant investment in planning and approvals. I strongly support the club's application for conditional funding under the Queensland government's 'Game's On!' program to provide the security needed to unlock future federal funding opportunities that will deliver a project to benefit Noosa and the wider region for generations to come.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our nation's military history deserves to be commemorated, understood and passed on to future generations. That is why I support the Maryborough Military Aviation Museum Association's application for funding under the Saluting Their Service Commemorative Grants program. This project is about more than preserving artefacts; it will bring history to life. The association proposes to transform their Maryborough airport museum into a regional centre for heritage education, allowing visitors to engage deeply with the stories of those who served and creating a lasting legacy of the men and women who trained and worked at RAAF Station Maryborough. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">During World War II, almost 4,000 men and women trained or were on staff at the RAAF Station Maryborough No. 3 Wireless Air Gunners' School and 569 lost their lives during their World War II service. Their service helped shape our nation's future, and their history must be remembered. Led by Jenny Elliott, the association's volunteers have worked to preserve and share Maryborough's remarkable military aviation history, and I've been a keen supporter of them since I was elected. This project will provide a lasting investment in remembrance and education, enhancing Maryborough's reputation as a city that honours, preserves and commemorates its unique contribution to Australia's wartime service. </span>
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      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Tomago Aluminium</title>
          <page.no>107</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Tomago Aluminium</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>107</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Repacholi, Dan MP</name>
              <name.id>298840</name.id>
              <electorate>Hunter</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298840" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr REPACHOLI</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hunter</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:17</span>):  What an announcement for the Hunter: the future of Tomago Aluminium has been secured beyond 2028. For the community of Hunter, that's absolutely huge. Tomago isn't some distant industrial asset on a spreadsheet in Canberra; it's ours. It's part of the Hunter, and it's part of who we are as a region. It's more than 1,000 people going to work every day at the smelter and another 5,000 jobs supported across the Hunter. In those jobs are our neighbours, our mates and our families. They are people who spend their pay packets in our local shops, put their kids through our local schools and support our local sporting clubs. They are the contractors, suppliers, tradies, transport workers and small businesses that keep the Hunter moving. So, when we talk about securing Tomago, we're talking about securing a big part of the Hunter's future.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The state and federal governments are investing $2.5 billion to secure the Tomago aluminium smelter at Tomago beyond 2028. Tomago Aluminium will also invest at least another $1.1 billion in this facility. That is serious investment in our region, and that's exactly the kind of investment that the Hunter deserves, because people in the Hunter know how to make things. We always have. We don't just talk about industry here; we do it. We know what it means to get up early, put the work gear on and go out and do a job that really does matter. We know what it means to build something, produce something and be proud of what leaves the factory gate at the end of the day. That's why this announcement matters so much to me, and that's why this matters so much to the broader Hunter. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want the next generation of Hunter kids to grow up knowing that they don't have to leave our region to get a good, safe and secure skilled job. I want them to know that there is still big industry right here in the Hunter and that there still will be manufacturing here. There'll still be places like Tomago where people can build a career, raise a family and make a contribution to this country. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This outcome didn't just happen on its own. The Hunter members fought hard for it. We made the case for Tomago Aluminium at every opportunity. We made sure people in Canberra understood what was at stake for our region. I particularly want to recognise my friend and colleague the member for Paterson, Meryl Swanson. Meryl has been an absolute champion and relentless on Tomago Aluminium. This announcement is a credit to her work and the work that we did as a broader Hunter caucus. It's a credit to the whole Hunter team because, when it comes to jobs in our region, we stick together. We know what's at stake and    we know the Hunter deserves a government that is prepared to back us.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Tomago Aluminium is Australia's largest aluminium smelter, but for us its importance goes well beyond that title. It's part of a much bigger story about what sort of future we want for the Hunter. We want the Hunter to keep making things. We want the Hunter to keep employing people in good, safe, secure industrial jobs. I want the Hunter to remain at the centre of Australia's manufacturing economy, and I'm proud to be part of a Labor government that shares that ambition. Australia shouldn't simply dig up our resources, put them on a ship and ship them overseas. We should add value right here. We should make things here. As far as I'm concerned, there's no better place to do that than in the mighty Hunter.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This agreement will also give Tomago the long-term energy certainty it needs to support major new renewable generation and firming capacity. That means the Hunter can keep doing what it's always done: powering the country, making the things the country and the world need, and creating good, safe, secure jobs while we're at it. That's what a future made in Australia looks like, from where I stand. It looks like Tomago Aluminium. It looks like thousands of Hunter workers keeping their jobs. It looks like billions of dollars being invested in our region. And it looks like the Hunter continuing to do what it does best: make things, build things and simply get on with the job.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm incredibly proud of this announcement. I'm proud of my Hunter colleagues the member for Paterson, Meryl Swanson, the member for Newcastle, Sharon Claydon, and the member for Shortland, Pat Conroy. I'm proud that our government listened to the Hunter and backed the Hunter. Most of all, I'm proud that generations of Hunter workers will now continue to have a future at Tomago. It's a win for Tomago, it's a win for manufacturing and it's a bloody good win for the Hunter.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, I want to thank the workers, their families, the communities and everybody who's been involved in helping make this happen. I especially want to thank the Australian Workers' Union, the Electrical Trades Union, the Australian Manufacturing Workers' Union and all of your union members for backing this in and really getting behind this. Without your help, we wouldn't be where we are today, so thank you.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Federation Chamber adjourned at 12:22</span>
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