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            <a href="Chamber" type="">Tuesday, 7 October 2025</a>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">The SPEAKER (</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Hon.</span>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Milton Dick</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">) </span>took the chair at 12:00, made an acknowledgement of country and read prayers.</span>
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        <page.no>2015</page.no>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">BILLS</span>
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          <title>Health Legislation Amendment (Improved Medicare Integrity and Other Measures) Bill 2025, National Health Amendment (Cheaper Medicines) Bill 2025, Health Insurance (Pathology) (Fees) (Repeal) Bill 2025, Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Amendment Bill (No. 1) 2025, Home Affairs Legislation Amendment (2025 Measures No. 1) Bill 2025, Aged Care (Accommodation Payment Security) Levy Amendment Bill 2025, Pacific Banking Guarantee Bill 2025, Aged Care and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025, Treasury Laws Amendment (Payments System Modernisation) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>2015</page.no>
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                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">National Health Amendment (Cheaper Medicines) Bill 2025</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Health Insurance (Pathology) (Fees) (Repeal) Bill 2025</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Amendment Bill (No. 1) 2025</span>
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              <a href="r7363" type="Bill">
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                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Home Affairs Legislation Amendment (2025 Measures No. 1) Bill 2025</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Aged Care (Accommodation Payment Security) Levy Amendment Bill 2025</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Pacific Banking Guarantee Bill 2025</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Aged Care and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025</span>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Treasury Laws Amendment (Payments System Modernisation) Bill 2025</span>
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            <title>Assent</title>
            <page.no>2015</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Messages from the Governor-General and Administrator reported informing the House of assent to the bills.</span>
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          <title>Telecommunications Legislation Amendment (Triple Zero Custodian and Emergency Calling Powers) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>2015</page.no>
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            <title>First Reading</title>
            <page.no>2015</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill—by leave—and explanatory memorandum presented by <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms </span><span style="font-weight:bold;">Wells</span>.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a first time.</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>2015</page.no>
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                <page.no>2015</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
                <name.id>264121</name.id>
                <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                    <a href="264121" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms WELLS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:02</span>):  I move:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Introduction</span>
                  </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Triple 0 is the most critical service in our telecommunications system. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It is the number Australians call in their most desperate moment of need, when lives and safety are on the line. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australians should trust that when they call triple 0 someone will answer and help will come.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But repeated failures by Optus in recent years, through which thousands of emergency calls failed to connect and lives were lost, has compromised that trust. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese government will always work to protect Australians, and we will hold those who fail to deliver their obligations to full account.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Optus—and all telecommunications carriers—have no excuses for triple 0 outages.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">While the Australian Communications and Media Authority's independent investigation into the most recent incident continues, today I introduce the Telecommunications Legislative Amendment (Triple Zero Custodian and Emergency Calling Powers) Bill 2025. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">What's happened so far</span>
                  </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">From the moment a person dials triple 0 into their phone, a chain of actions is set in motion.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The call passes through carriers, infrastructure owners and the emergency call person before finally landing with the relevant state and territory emergency service, who dispatch potentially life-saving resources.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And while telco outages may occur, the law is clear: carriers must always make sure that triple 0 calls still connect by being redirected to alternate mobile towers or infrastructure.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Despite this requirement, the Bean review found that a lack of overarching accountability over many years left the system vulnerable when coordination broke down. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is why, in March this year, the Albanese government established the Triple Zero Custodian in the Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development, Communications, Sport and the Arts.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">So far, the custodian has worked closely with industry to understand the gaps in the triple 0 system.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Alongside the custodian, the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman has led a steering committee of industry, government and consumer representatives to establish a longer-term triple 0 custodian model.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I thank the participants in that steering committee for their contribution to this incredibly important work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill cements into law the powers and functions of the existing triple 0 custodian, to strengthen the resilience and oversight of the triple 0 system.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And it builds on critical industry standards starting on 1 November.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">From 1 November, telecommunications carriers will have to provide real-time reporting of outages to ACMA and to emergency services.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">They will also have to test triple 0 during upgrades and maintenance, and ensure calls fall back to other networks if needed.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And within six months of the commencement of this bill, the custodian, through ACMA, will issue additional performance requirements to telcos to ensure best practice.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Telco providers know under the law they must provide reliable access to triple 0—that is their legal obligation.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That's why this morning I met with the CEOs of Optus, Telstra and TPG/Vodafone ahead of the approaching natural disaster season.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are no excuses and I made that crystal clear earlier today.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none underline;">Schedule 1—main amendments</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Turning to the specifics of this bill, schedule 1 amends the Telecommunications (Consumer Protection and Service Standards) Act 1999 to put the custodian on a statutory footing and equip ACMA with targeted powers.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Under these amendments, ACMA may issue directions to carriers, carriage service providers and emergency call persons.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These directions may require critical information to be provided, such as technical details of an outage, policies and processes affecting triple 0, or restoration plans.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">They may also require specific actions to be taken, such as consulting with other stakeholders, sharing information with an emergency service organisation, or improving procedures to prevent a repeat failure.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">During an outage event, where the custodian or ACMA reasonably believes access to triple 0 may be affected, ACMA can compel timely information on the outage's nature, scale, impacts and restoration.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Information gathered by ACMA will be provided to the custodian in a timely manner.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The custodian will use this material to support its ongoing, systemwide oversight of triple 0.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">ACMA will also provide advice and analysis to the custodian to assist in identifying risks and improving preparedness across the ecosystem. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This arrangement strengthens ACMA as an active participant in triple 0, while maintaining the custodian as the central coordination and oversight function within the department.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill also establishes rules for the use and disclosure of custodian information. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This framework allows information to be shared with emergency service organisations, regulators and other relevant bodies to remediate problems before they cause crisis, and to respond during an outage of the triple 0 system.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 1 requires ACMA to report every six months to the minister on use of the new powers, with a copy provided to the custodian. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The minister may also cause a review of the custodian's effectiveness within two years of commencement. These provisions reinforce accountability and provide the flexibility to refine the framework over time.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For constitutional reasons, the powers of direction contained in the bill do not extend to state and territory emergency services organisations.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">However, it is my expectation that the custodian will work constructively with the states and territories, to ensure the appropriate transfer of information.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none underline;">Schedule 2—consequential amendments</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 2 makes consequential amendments to the Telecommunications Act 1997.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It confirms ACMA's investigation pathway where matters are referred by the custodian and establishes civil penalties for contraventions of custodian directions.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This aligns with the penalty settings of other enforcement tools across the telecommunications regulatory framework and reinforces the seriousness of compliance.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none underline;">Schedule 3—technical updates to emergency services references</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 3 of the bill updates references to 'emergency services' so that the term is consistently defined across telecommunications legislation.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">C</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">onclusion</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill acts on the lessons of past service disruptions by establishing into law the powers and functions of the Triple Zero Custodian. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It provides the Commonwealth with a permanent mechanism to oversee emergency call services, both during outages and in business-as-usual operations.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It will also give the ACMA the tools it needs to be proactive and forward leaning in pursuing a resilient, reliable emergency call service for the benefit of all Australians.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Going forward, I will repeat for the record what I said to the CEOs of Optus, Telstra and TPG before walking into this chamber.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese government is committed to making the triple 0 system better and more reliable for Australians. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Legislating a triple 0 custodian will help—but there is no silver bullet solution for corporate failure. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">If a telco fails Australians—like Optus did—they will face significant consequences.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There is no excuse.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I commend the bill to the House.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
                </p>
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        </subdebate.2>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>BUSINESS</title>
        <page.no>2017</page.no>
        <type>BUSINESS</type>
      </debateinfo>
      <debate.text>
        <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:WX="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">BUSINESS</span>
          </p>
        </body>
      </debate.text>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Consideration of Legislation</title>
          <page.no>2017</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Consideration of Legislation</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2017</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Gorman, Patrick MP</name>
              <name.id>74519</name.id>
              <electorate>Perth</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="74519" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GORMAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Perth</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister to the Prime Minister, Assistant Minister for the Public Service and Assistant Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:11</span>):  On behalf of the Leader of the House, I move:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent the following from occurring in relation to proceedings on Appropriation Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026, Appropriation Bill (No. 2) 2025-2026 and Appropriation (Parliamentary Departments) Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(1) on Tuesday, 7 October:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(a) when Appropriation Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026 is called on, the questions being put without delay or debate on any amendments moved to the motion for the second reading and on the second reading; and</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(b) the bills standing referred to the Federation Chamber;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(2) when the order of the day for the further consideration of Appropriation Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026 is called on in the Federation Chamber, consideration of the schedule being in accordance with the following order, and the question 'that the proposed expenditure be agreed to' being put for each portfolio in accordance with the timeframes indicated below, or earlier if no further Members rise to speak:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(a) Education Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 6 pm on Tuesday, 7 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(b) Defence Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 6.45 pm on Tuesday, 7 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(c) Foreign Affairs and Trade Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 7.30 pm on Tuesday, 7 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(d) Treasury Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 11.15 am on Wednesday, 8 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(e) Finance Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 12 noon on Wednesday, 8 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(f) Employment and Workplace Relations Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 12.45 pm on Wednesday, 8 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(g) Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 1.30 pm on Wednesday, 8 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(h) Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 4.45 pm on Wednesday, 8 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(i) Attorney-General's Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 5.15 pm on Wednesday, 8 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(j) Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development, Communications, Sport and the Arts Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 6 pm on Wednesday, 8 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(k) Industry, Science and Resources Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 6.45 pm on Wednesday, 8 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(l) Home Affairs Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 7.30 pm on Wednesday, 8 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(m) Social Services Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 11.15 am on Thursday, 9 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(n) Health, Disability and Ageing Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 12.15 pm on Thursday, 9 October; and</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(o) Prime Minister and Cabinet Portfolio, at the first opportunity after 12.45 pm on Thursday, 9 October;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(3) any questions necessary to complete the consideration in the Federation Chamber of each of the bills being put immediately without debate;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(4) the bills returning to the House and, when reported, any question or questions necessary to complete the remaining stages of each of the bills to be put without amendment or debate; and</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(5) any variation to this arrangement being made only on a motion moved by a Minister. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>2018</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
      </debateinfo>
      <debate.text>
        <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:WX="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">BILLS</span>
          </p>
        </body>
      </debate.text>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Appropriation Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026</title>
          <page.no>2018</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <a href="" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Appropriation Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026</span>
              </p>
            </a>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>2018</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo>
          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a second time.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </subdebate.text>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2018</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">12:12</span>):  In accordance with the resolution agreed to earlier, the Appropriation Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026 and related appropriation bills stand referred to the Federation Chamber, and further consideration of this bill is made an order of the day for a later hour.</span>
                </p>
              </body>
            </talk.text>
          </speech>
        </subdebate.2>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>COMMITTEES</title>
        <page.no>2018</page.no>
        <type>COMMITTEES</type>
      </debateinfo>
      <debate.text>
        <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:WX="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">COMMITTEES</span>
          </p>
        </body>
      </debate.text>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Intelligence and Security Joint Committee</title>
          <page.no>2018</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <a href="69" type="Committee">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Intelligence and Security Joint Committee</span>
              </p>
            </a>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Report</title>
            <page.no>2018</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo>
          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Report</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </subdebate.text>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2018</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wallace, Andrew MP</name>
                <name.id>265967</name.id>
                <electorate>Fisher</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="265967" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WALLACE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fisher</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:12</span>):  On behalf of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security, I present the following reports: <span style="font-style:italic;">Review of the listing of Terrorgram as a terrorist organisation under the Criminal Code</span> and <span style="font-style:italic;">Advisory report on the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025</span>.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Reports made parliamentary papers in accordance with standing order 39(e).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="265967" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr WALLACE:</span>
                    </a>  by leave—I rise today to present a report on behalf of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security for a review of the listing of Terrorgram as a terrorist organisation under the Criminal Code. Organisations can be listed under the Criminal Code, provided the minister is satisfied on reasonable grounds that the organisations are directly or indirectly engaged in terrorism or advocates the doing of a terrorist act. On 27 June 2025, the Minister for Home Affairs announced that the Australian government had listed Terrorgram, also known as Terrorgram Collective, as a terrorist organisation under the Criminal Code. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee's review examines the minister's decision to list this organisation. Section 102.1A of the Criminal Code provides that the committee may review a regulation which lists an organisation as a terrorist organisation and report its comments and recommendations to each House of the parliament at any time. In determining whether the regulations listing this organisation should be supported, the committee reviewed the merits of the listing with regard to the Minister for Home Affairs's explanatory statement and statement of reasons for the listing and other publicly available information. The committee also received a private briefing on the organisation from the Department of Home Affairs. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The statement of reasons makes clear that Terrorgram is a nationalist and racist violent extremist organisation comprising a group of persons who use a network of various online channels based primarily on the online messaging application Telegram. Terrorgram's leaders and members create and distribute propaganda with the intent to inspire terrorist attacks on minority groups, critical infrastructure and specific individuals they deem to be against their values. The organisation advocates for and provides instructions on how to conduct terrorist attacks and has successfully inspired a number of terrorist attacks in the United States, Europe and Asia. The decentralised and encrypted online environment of Terrorgram allows the organisation to operate internationally with few barriers and with membership relatively easily attainable for Australians. A key concern is Terrorgram's frequent promotion and praise of the 2019 Christchurch terrorist attack and perpetrator, which it uses as a propaganda tool to radicalise potential members, advocate terrorist actions and spread its violent extremist ideology.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The nature of this organisation is unconventional for a terrorist organisation as it is a decentralised, non-hierarchical network that primarily operates in online spaces. However, the committee is satisfied with the Australian government's assessment that Terrorgram is a distinct organisation with identifiable members and leadership figures. On the basis of the information available to it, the committee agrees with the Australian government's assessment that the organisation known as Terrorgram advocates the doing of a terrorist act. The committee is satisfied that the appropriate process has been followed and that the listing has been properly made. The committee therefore supports the listing of Terrorgram under division 102 of the Criminal Code in order to protect Australians and Australia's interests and finds no reason to disallow the regulations.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I also rise to present a report on behalf of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security for its review of the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025. The bill amends the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979, the Surveillance Devices Act 2004 and the Crimes Act 1914 with the objective of ensuring key provisions operate as intended and supporting the proper administration of government, law enforcement, national security and criminal justice processes.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill consists of five schedules. Schedule 1 would permit network activity warrant information to be used, communicated and recorded to meet disclosure obligations or to be admitted in evidence where necessary to ensure a defendant is afforded a fair trial or to respond to any such information admitted by the defence. Schedule 2 would transfer the statutory function of the communications access coordinator from the Secretary of the Attorney-General's Department to the Secretary of the Department of Home Affairs. Schedule 3 would permit limited access to stored communications to allow agencies to undertake development and testing activities. Schedule 4 would address a technical issue with the operation of interception international production orders that has prevented orders from being given to US based prescribed communication providers in certain circumstances. Schedule 5 would clarify the threshold for authorising and varying controlled operations and, subsequently, the circumstances in which a participant is protected from criminal responsibility and indemnified against civil liability. The committee received five submissions to its review of the bill, most of which expressed support for it, in whole or in part.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These are technical but important amendments intended not to create entirely new laws or powers but to clarify existing obligations and ensure the workability of particular provisions within the telecommunications laws that enable the crucial work of our national security agencies. The committee has recommended that the bill be passed without amendment. I commend both reports to the House.</span>
                </p>
              </body>
            </talk.text>
            <continue>
              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>2018</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Wallace, Andrew MP</name>
                  <name.id>265967</name.id>
                  <electorate>Fisher</electorate>
                  <party>LNP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
                </talker>
              </talk.start>
              <talk.text>
              </talk.text>
            </continue>
          </speech>
        </subdebate.2>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Electoral Matters Joint Committee, Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Joint Committee, National Capital and External Territories Joint Committee, Human Rights Joint Committee</title>
          <page.no>2019</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p>
              <a href="67" type="Committee">
                <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Electoral Matters Joint Committee</span>
                </p>
              </a>
              <a href="68" type="Committee">
                <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Joint Committee</span>
                </p>
              </a>
              <a href="72" type="Committee">
                <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">National Capital and External Territories Joint Committee</span>
                </p>
              </a>
            </p>
            <a href="5" type="Committee">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Human Rights Joint Committee</span>
              </p>
            </a>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Membership</title>
            <page.no>2019</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo>
          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Membership</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </subdebate.text>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2019</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">12:19</span>):  I have received advice from the Chief Government Whip, nominating members to be members and participating members of certain committees, as well as from Dr M Ryan.</span>
                </p>
              </body>
            </talk.text>
          </speech>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2019</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Rae, Sam MP</name>
                <name.id>300122</name.id>
                <electorate>Hawke</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="300122" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr RAE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hawke</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Aged Care and Seniors</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:19</span>):  by leave—I move:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">That:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) Ms Payne be discharged from the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters, the Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade and the Joint Standing Committee on the National Capital and External Territories;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) Dr M Ryan be discharged from the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Human Rights;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3) Mr Burnell be appointed a member of the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(4) Ms Scrymgour be appointed a member of the Joint Standing Committee on the National Capital and External Territories; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(5) Ms Scrymgour and Ms Urquhart be appointed participating members of the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters for the purpose of the committee's inquiry into the 2025 federal election.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
                </p>
              </body>
            </talk.text>
          </speech>
        </subdebate.2>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>2019</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
      </debateinfo>
      <debate.text>
        <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:WX="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">BILLS</span>
          </p>
        </body>
      </debate.text>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>2019</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <a href="r7366" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025</span>
              </p>
            </a>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>2019</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo>
          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </subdebate.text>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2019</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Taylor, Angus MP</name>
                <name.id>231027</name.id>
                <electorate>Hume</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="231027" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TAYLOR</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hume</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:20</span>):  I rise to speak on the Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025. The coalition acknowledges the intent of this bill, which contains a number of technical amendments to improve the efficiency of several important elements of our health system, including the allocation of Medicare provider numbers, the assignment of Medicare benefits processes and improvements to the private health insurance premiums reduction scheme. It also makes amendments to the Bonded Medical Program, with the aim of ensuring that penalties for noncompliance are fair and proportionate, particularly in light of the serious workforce shortages facing our healthcare system. The measures in this bill are intended to tidy up existing legislation, streamline administration and make sure the rules governing Medicare payments and bonded medical placements are clear and consistent. These are sensible objectives, and on that basis the coalition will not stand in the way of this bill in the House.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">However, we will be seeking further information and scrutiny on this bill through a Senate inquiry, particularly in relation to the implications of the proposed changes to the Bonded Medical Program and the assignment of Medicare benefits for bulk-billing and simplified billing arrangements. We have significant unanswered questions that we believe it is important to seek answers to. It's vital these measures do not create unintended consequences or additional administrative burden for our hardworking health professionals, because right now it is undeniable that primary health care is in crisis under this government.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">At the last election, we saw the Prime Minister wave around his Medicare card at every photo opportunity, declaring that under his government all you need is your Medicare card, not your credit card. He said that Australians can see a GP for free under Labor. He made that promise at least 71 times during the campaign. But the truth, confirmed by his own department, is very different. A Department of Health, Disability and Ageing briefing obtained under freedom of information revealed that a quarter of GP clinics across Australia will not bulk-bill. This means millions of Australians still need their credit card as well as their Medicare card when they visit a doctor. Now the Minister for Health and Ageing is desperately trying to walk it all back, saying that Labor never said there would be 100 per cent bulk-billing. Well, the Prime Minister certainly did say that. He looked Australians in the eye and said, 'One card covers it all—not your credit card but your Medicare card.'</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But today Australians are paying the price for the Albanese Labor government's disingenuous approach to Medicare. Whilst the Prime Minister was out there waving his Medicare card, Australian families were paying a combined $166 million in out-of-pocket costs at the GP during a month of the campaign, May 2025, alone. In the past year, Australians have paid over $2 billion out of pocket to see a GP—$2 billion charged to their credit cards, not covered by their Medicare cards. That is the Prime Minister's $2 billion lie. Since Labor was elected, Australians are now paying 75 per cent more out of their own pocket to see a doctor—so much for 'free to see a GP'!</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor promised to strengthen Medicare, but it has only been weakened. Since the Albanese government came to power, the bulk-billing has fallen from 88 per cent to 77 per cent. That's 40 million fewer bulk-billed GP visits in the past year alone. Medicare mental health funding has been slashed in half, and, despite all of Labor's false promises and misleading rhetoric, Australians are now paying the highest average out-of-pocket costs on record to see a GP. That is the stark reality of Labor's primary care crisis. More than 1.5 million Australians said last year they avoided seeing a GP because of cost concerns. That's 1½ million people forced to make a difficult decision about their health, a decision no Australian should have to make, because of Labor's primary healthcare crisis.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">While Australian families are struggling to afford to go to their doctor, the Prime Minister seems completely out of touch, more interested in political stunts than in ensuring all Australians actually have timely and affordable access to essential health care. Nowhere is Labor's neglect clearer than in mental health. When Labor tore away Medicare subsidised mental health sessions from 372,000 vulnerable Australians, it ignored the advice of its own review and the pleas of mental health experts right across the country. Since that cruel cut, access to Medicare mental health support has fallen to its lowest level in at least a decade, right at the time when demand has never been higher. Labor has cut Medicare mental health sessions in half, abolished the Mental Health Commission and even ripped away the Suicide Prevention Research Fund. Their neglect of mental health is so significant that the former chair of Mental Health Australia was forced to resign in frustration at the government's inaction. This is not the record of a government strengthening Medicare or supporting Australians' health and wellbeing. It is the record of a government that says one thing and does another.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Under the coalition, Medicare funding increased every single year, from $18.6 billion back in 2012-13 under Labor to more than $30 billion in 2021-22. Bulk-billing rose consistently through our term in office to a record of more than 88 per cent when we left government. In our final year, Australians received 167 million free GP visits, which is 61 million more than under the previous Labor government. That's the coalition's record—delivering affordable, quality health care.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">So, while the coalition acknowledge the technical objectives of this bill to ensure efficiency in several elements of our health system, we will not let the government use it as a smokescreen for its broader failures. We condemn the Albanese government's broken promises and appalling record on Medicare. Australians deserve a government that tells them the truth, not one that waves around a Medicare card while forcing families to reach for their credit cards. The coalition remains firmly focused on ensuring that all Australians can access timely, affordable and quality health care, no matter where they live.</span>
                </p>
              </body>
            </talk.text>
          </speech>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2021</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Briskey, Jo MP</name>
                <name.id>263427</name.id>
                <electorate>Maribyrnong</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="263427" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BRISKEY</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Maribyrnong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:27</span>):  I am thrilled to again be contributing in this place on our Labor government's commitment to Medicare. Medicare and universal access to health care are core to who we are as a Labor government. This legislation, the Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025, is another important step in ensuring Medicare remains strong, accessible and ready for the future. It will help us deliver more bulk-billing, faster access to doctors, simpler billing systems and fairer treatment for medical graduates and overseas trained practitioners so that Australians can get the care that they need when they need it and while only needing their Medicare card.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Medicare is who we are as a country. It's one of our nation's greatest achievements, built on our Australian values of fairness, equity and compassion. It's why our government is determined to strengthen Medicare, to make it easier and affordable to see your doctor, to support our healthcare workforce and to keep bulk-billing strong across every part of our community. This legislation makes important, practical changes across the health system to help deliver a stronger Medicare, including more bulk-billing, faster access to provider numbers and better systems that will help doctors spend less time on paperwork and more time with their patients. This bill is a key part of the Albanese Labor government's ongoing commitment to not just strengthen Medicare but safeguard it now and into the future.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">After a decade of coalition neglect and frozen rebates that resulted in a rapid decline in bulk-billing and a healthcare workforce stretched to breaking point, Labor is doing the work to fix it, building a stronger, fairer and more modern Medicare. One of the most important parts of this bill tackles one of the biggest barriers that affect our healthcare workforce: the slow processing of Medicare provider numbers. When a new doctor, including an overseas trained practitioner, seeks to practise under Medicare, they have to apply for a Medicare provider number. It's a process that's still partly manual, often slow and frustratingly bureaucratic. The Kruk review found that overseas trained doctors can wait up to three months for a provider number to start work. These delays result in months of lost care for patients, and in some areas clinics struggle to keep up with demand.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill fixes that. It implements recommendation 2 of the independent Kruk review into Australia's regulatory settings for overseas health practitioners: to automate and streamline the issuing of provider numbers. Under these changes, the Chief Executive Medicare will be able to approve computer programs to automatically issue Medicare provider numbers for straightforward non-discretionary cases. That means that, when a practitioner meets all the eligibility criteria, their provider number can be issued quickly, efficiently and without unnecessary human delay. Importantly, any refusals or complex cases will still be reviewed by a human officer, ensuring accountability and fairness. We'll also validate all provider numbers previously issued by automated systems so there's legal certainty and no risk to practitioners who've already been approved.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In my local community, these changes mean doctors joining busy practices in Essendon, Moonee Ponds and Keilor East can start seeing patients sooner, reducing wait times and keeping care close to home. Just under a quarter of my electorate are aged over 65, a group that naturally requires more frequent access to health care as they age. These reforms will make a real difference for them, as well as for busy young families and students balancing study and part-time work, by giving everyone faster, easier access to the care that they need. By streamlining approvals and boosting bulk-billing, this bill helps local clinics operate more efficiently and focus on what matters: their patients. It means more appointments, more services and better care for every family across my community and right across Australia. This reform brings Medicare into the digital age and makes the system more efficient.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Simpler, faster and more reliable—that is what this legislation seeks to achieve by modernising the way private health insurance rebates are processed. Private health insurance plays an important role in supporting Australia's universal healthcare system. It gives Australians more choice and flexibility, helping people access the elective surgeries, specialist care and hospital services they need while reducing pressure on our public hospitals. At the same time, it works hand in hand with Medicare, ensuring that everyone continues to have access to essential care regardless of income. Every year, the Australian government reimburses insurers over $7 billion to ensure the private health insurance rebate is applied fairly and accurately to consumers' premiums. This rebate helps to keep private health insurance affordable for millions of Australians. When we came to government, we inherited a system that was inconsistent, error prone and woefully outdated. That is why we are seeking to modernise it.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill aligns registration with Services Australia systems, introduces self-assessment for insurers, ensures overpayments can be recovered even if errors occur and allows computer assisted decision-making and the approval of forms by the Chief Executive Medicare. This legislation provides reassurance for local families in Maribyrnong, from young couples taking out their first policy to older residents managing chronic conditions. It's about ensuring that private health insurance remains affordable, reliable and accessible, giving people peace of mind that they can access the services they need. By streamlining the rebate process and improving efficiency of claims, the bill ensures that all insurers can pass on these benefits directly to their policyholders, reducing out-of-pocket costs and making coverage more predictable.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These reforms go beyond the technical fixes. They're about delivering real benefits for working people, reducing stress and ensuring Australians can get what they are entitled to under the law. That is what good government does. It identifies problems, consults experts and implements smart legislative fixes, rather than ignoring problems for years and leaving billions of dollars in rebate payments vulnerable to error or inconsistency.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Another key part of this bill is how Medicare benefits are assigned under bulk-billing and simplified billing. Right now, patients assign their Medicare benefit to their doctor, who then receives the rebate from the government. It's a system that has worked for decades, but it still relies on old paper-based processes that can slow things down. Earlier this year, the Health Insurance Legislation Amendment (Assignment of Medicare Benefits) Act 2024 laid the groundwork for digital assignment, making it faster and easier for doctors and patients alike. But, before we flip the switch, we need to make sure Medicare practices, software providers and Services Australia are ready. That's why this bill delays the start of the new rules until 1 July 2026. This is a responsible move, giving everyone time to prepare, avoiding disruption, protecting patients' ability to bulk-bill and making sure bulk-billing software works smoothly.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">While we get ready for the digital future, Labor is investing today. Our $7.9 billion bulk-billing initiative, kicking off in November, will mean local GPs can see more patients, help more families and keep costs down. Just last week, I welcomed the Minister for Health and Ageing, Mark Butler, to Maribyrnong to visit the Moonee Ponds Super Clinic, on Hall Street. We spoke with the practice manager and local doctors about what these new changes will mean on the ground. They told us how the government's new bulk-billing incentives will help them see more patients, keep their doors open for longer and make sure that cost is never a barrier to care. They confirmed they will be moving to become a fully bulk-billing service because of our initiative.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">You can feel the difference this investment will make, not just for the clinics but for families right across my electorate. In Maribyrnong, around 27 per cent of people live with a long-term health condition that requires regular care and support. That's more than one in four people who rely on strong, accessible primary health care—people managing diabetes, heart conditions, asthma and other chronic illnesses and who can't avoid delays or pay high out-of-pocket costs. That is why we're strengthening Medicare and that's why it matters so deeply to communities like mine. Your health is personal, and looking after it can be stressful. The last thing anyone needs is a system that makes it harder to get the help that they need. Whether it's at the Moonee Ponds Super Clinic or your local GP practices, across Kensington through to Gladstone Park, this is about making Medicare work for everyone—faster claims, fairer systems and less time on paperwork.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 4 reforms the Bonded Medical Program, ensuring fairness while keeping communities covered. The coalition imposed a six-year Medicare ban for doctors who failed to meet their obligations. Not only was this harsh and unfair, but it was also counterproductive. That policy risked depriving regional, rural and outer suburban communities of critical health services. Once again, Labor is fixing their mess.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill delivers three key changes that make the Bonded Medical Program fairer, more flexible and more effective. Under the old system, if a doctor could not finish their service obligation, they were punished twice: forced to repay their scholarship and then banned from billing Medicare for six years. It was harsh, it was unfair and it made no sense. That ban didn't just hurt the doctor; it hurt Australians as it meant fewer bulk-billing services were available. By removing that blunt penalty, we're keeping fairness and accountability in place without cutting our communities off from the care they need.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Many bonded doctors have already spent years working in our rural, regional and outer metropolitan communities, yet, under the old rules, that effort often did not count toward their obligations. This bill changes that. It ensures that the work done in the spirit of the program is properly recognised.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We know medical training is demanding and that personal circumstances can change. Extending the grace period gives students more time to decide whether the program is right for them, supporting a smoother transition into the workforce and reducing unnecessary stress during study. This flexibility helps us attract more students into medicine, especially those who want to give back to their communities, without trapping them in unfair or unrealistic conditions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These reforms also send a clear message to doctors and healthcare workers: your contribution is valued, and we recognise the hard work you do. By removing punitive barriers and providing fairer conditions, the program encourages more young doctors to enter the workforce and consider service in areas that need it the most. It helps retain skilled practitioners, reduces burnout and ensures our health system is staffed with dedicated professionals who can provide the high-quality care every Australian deserves.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor understands that the strength of our healthcare system depends on the people who keep it running—our doctors, nurses, allied health professionals and the support staff who show up every day for the communities they serve. Strengthening the workforce today means stronger, more reliable health care for communities tomorrow. The Bonded Medical Program is about building a pipeline of skilled and passionate doctors across the country, from our biggest cities to our smallest towns. It incentivises service in areas of need, supports workforce planning and ensures that every Australian, no matter where they live, can see a doctor when they need to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What this bill shows is Labor in action, delivering reforms that build on our promise to strengthen Medicare: faster onboarding of doctors; stronger support for private health insurance and rebates; modern, digital, simplified bulk-billing processes; and fairer rules for bonded medical graduates. For a decade, those opposite were focused more on the culture wars than on keeping our healthcare system running. When it comes to Medicare, they don't see green and gold; they see stars and stripes. They see Medicare American style: no bulk-billing, harsh penalties for healthcare workers and Australians paying more for the treatment they need. We are determined to fix their mistakes and keep our promise to strengthen Medicare for all Australians.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill makes our system fairer, more efficient and more reliable, ensuring Australians can access care when they need it. Australians voted for a Labor government that invests in them, invests in people, solves problems and delivers results. This bill does just that by strengthening the backbone of our health system and ensuring it keeps pace with the world around it. Automation of provider numbers will get doctors working faster. Reform of private health rebate systems will protect taxpayers and patients alike. Modernising bulk-billing processes will make it easier for clinics and ensure digital integrity. Improving the Bonded Medical Program will keep more doctors where they're needed most. These are practical, forward-looking reforms, part of Labor's broader agenda to rebuild Medicare after years of neglect. For the people of Maribyrnong, this means seeing a doctor sooner, fast approvals for new providers and strong bulk-billing at the local clinics across Keilor East, Tullamarine and Avondale Heights. It means fewer delays, more certainty and a fairer health system that puts patients first.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Medicare isn't just a policy; it's a promise—a promise that, no matter who you are or where you live, you will be able to get health care that you need without going broke doing it. I commend the bill to the House.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2023</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Birrell, Sam MP</name>
                <name.id>288713</name.id>
                <electorate>Nicholls</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BIRRELL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Nicholls</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:41</span>):  I too rise to speak on the Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025. This bill, like so many other pieces of legislation introduced by the Albanese government, is like a scorpion. You start at the top, and everything is fine. Then you get to the sting in the tail, not unlike the sting that many Australians are feeling when they need to pull out their credit card as well as their Medicare card. With that in mind, I'll start at the tail of this piece of legislation, and that refers to schedule 4, the Bonded Medical Program.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There simply is not enough detail in the bill, the explanatory memorandum or the Assistant Minister for Health and Aged Care's second reading speech. The explanatory memorandum correctly explains that the Bonded Medical Program, first introduced in 2001, aims to address the shortage of medical professionals in regional, rural and remote areas, and, as shadow assistant minister for regional health, I am acutely aware of how important that scheme is. We will be seeking further information and scrutiny on this bill through a Senate inquiry, particularly in relation to the implications of proposed changes to the Bonded Medical Program and the assignment of Medicare benefits for bulk-billing and signified billing arrangements. It is vital that these measures do not create unintended consequences or additional administrative burden for our hardworking health professionals.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Right now, it is undeniable that primary health care is in crisis under this government. While there have been several schemes over the decades, the fundamentals are the same: medical practitioners receive support from government in return for a commitment to work in regional settings. Under the current scheme, those who sign up receive a Commonwealth supported place, a CSP, in an Australian university medical course. In return, they make a commitment to work in eligible regional, rural or remote areas for a period of three years, or 156 weeks. This is referred to in the scheme as the return-of-service obligation, and participants have 18 years in which to complete this service obligation. The statutory Bonded Medical Program commenced in 2020 and replaced two legacy schemes. The Medical Rural Bonded Scholarship Scheme was from 2001 to 2015, and the Bonded Medical Places Scheme operated from 2004 to 2019. The legacy scheme participants are able to voluntarily opt in to the Bonded Medical Program and receive a significant reduction in the return-of-service obligation and more flexible program conditions. In some cases, the length of time doctors are obligated to practise in areas of need in regional Australia is cut from six years to three years by them opting in to the current scheme. I can understand the reasons for wanting to streamline participation and administration to a single scheme, but we should also recognise the outcome is a significant cut to the amount of time those practitioners are required to practise in rural and regional areas to satisfy their return-of-service obligation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I will remind everyone in this place that, still, doctors do not grow on trees. The bonded medical programs have played an important part for many years in delivering Australian educated doctors to regional communities. The schemes have operated alongside similar schemes binding foreign trained doctors to work in regional areas for a set period as part of their visa decisions. Schemes designed to address GP workforce challenges in regional and remote communities are already being undermined by changes that the Albanese government has made to distribution priority areas. They've expanded the GP priority areas; 17 areas became 'more remote' under the new Modified Monash Model classifications. But priority areas continue to extend into the fringes of capital cities, and 15 metropolitan areas gained DPA status, which allows for those areas to compete for overseas trained doctors with the most remote and underserviced regions in Australia. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What we can't afford is further dilution of programs designed to get doctors into communities that most need them. Schedule 4 seeks to make changes to the Bonded Medical Program so that consequences for participants who withdraw from the program or fail to complete their return of service obligation—I emphasise that word 'obligation'—balance the 'personal circumstances' of the bonded participant with the broader interests of the community. It is not clear from this bill, the explanatory memorandum or the second reading speech what that actually means in practice and what the implications are going to be for regional and remote Australia, who need these GPs. While a waiver is referenced, there's no detail to it. I can understand that, in some cases, there may be compassionate and compelling circumstances for a waiver to be applied, but the broader interests of the community are also very important, and these schemes can mean the difference between having and not having a local GP. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There is a third element here that's not addressed: the integrity of the scheme itself. Currently, breaches may mean participants are liable for financial penalties, such as repayment of the scholarship or CSP fees, and, in addition, former medical rural bonded scheme participants can receive a six-year Medicare ban. Without additional information gleaned through an inquiry—that's why we want to send it to a Senate inquiry—it's difficult to determine the impact of these changes. I'm a bit wary of any change that undermines the scheme and makes it easier for participants to on one hand receive the benefits but then not deliver the obligation under which they were given the benefits in the first place. We need doctors in the regions. You can wave your Medicare card as much as you want, even if you're the Prime Minister, but you won't be able to use it if there's not a doctor available. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are alternatives are out there that I've seen work very successfully in getting medical professionals into regional areas. Initiatives of the previous coalition government are a great example of this. In my electorate of Nicholls the Murray-Darling Medical Schools Network—which moves Commonwealth supported places out to regional universities and regional campuses—school of rural health at the Shepparton campus of the University of Melbourne is a great example of this. The way the program works is that students will do a Bachelor of Biomedical Science—there are 15 places set aside at La Trobe University in this particular scheme and are 15 places from any other appropriate prerequisite undergraduate course—and then the participants will go into the four-year Doctor of Medicine, which will be exclusively at the school of rural health in Shepparton, which is over the road from the hospital. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The students spend four years in a regional setting. The first graduates will come out at the end of this year, in 2025, and I'm really looking forward to the moment when they graduate. I know those students personally. They've already set themselves up in regional areas. Most of them were country kids in the first place. The reason the scheme was so attractive to them is that they were kids who, if they had to go to a university in Melbourne or Sydney to study medicine, just wouldn't have studied medicine. They studied medicine because there was an opportunity to do it in a regional setting, close to their families, in an affordable way. So we have all of these kids who are going to be doctors who wouldn't have otherwise been. They are going to study in a regional location. They are going to be there for four years. They are going to put down roots. They've met people. In some cases, they have started families. In some cases, they are close to their existing families. I think, in some cases, people have already put down a deposit on a house. They are going to stay and practise in regional areas.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Murray-Darling Medical Schools Network is an example of really creative thinking by the then coalition government, saying, 'The evidence shows us that, if you train people in regions, they're likely to practise in regions.' We're about to yield in all regional areas, not just in Shepparton but across the areas where the Murray-Darling medical schools run, the benefits of having those young people graduate and work in these regions. I think that we should look at expanding the Murray-Darling medical schools beyond the Murray-Darling to other parts of regional Australia and make sure that we contribute to that population balance by not just focusing a lot of our university courses in major metropolitan cities but moving them out to regional cities so that they grow and so that we grow Australia in an even way.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Murray-Darling Medical Schools Network, along with the bonded medical scheme and the programs that have required overseas doctors to practise in regional areas as part of their visa requirements, is an example of the government being creative and filling that need for medical professionals in regional areas. But, if you start watering down these schemes, as this bill may do—again, it's not clear—in relation to the bonded medical scheme, you are going to not only water down the scheme but water down the ability of regional communities to have access to GPs.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The other schedules in this bill seek to address regulatory and administrative issues. The coalition acknowledges the intent of this bill. It contains a number of technical amendments to improve the efficiency of several important elements of our health system. Schedule 1, for example, is on the automation of Medicare provider numbers. In my own electorate, my office has had to assist general practitioners facing extended delays in the issuing of a Medicare provider number. Schedule 2 refers to the private health insurance rebate premiums reduction scheme, and schedule 3 is for modernising the assignment of Medicare benefits for bulk-billing and simplified billing.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Every government comes in and has a look at how things have worked. I think things worked well under the previous coalition government, but there's always room for improvement. If a new government comes in and finds ways to streamline because of new technology or new ideas then that's a good thing. I'm very supportive of that. But, once again, we are presented with a bill that has many reasonable elements but has one aspect we are concerned about. We need further explanation, further information and a Senate inquiry to interrogate those changes and make sure we don't end up with unintended consequences that leave regional and remote Australians even worse off than they are currently in relation to a trained, efficient and available medical workforce.</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2025</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Freelander, Mike MP</name>
                <name.id>265979</name.id>
                <electorate>Macarthur</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="265979" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr FREELANDER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Macarthur</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:53</span>):  The number '478444X' probably means nothing to any of you here in this room, but it is very important to me. That was the Medicare provider number that I got when I started my private practice, in the same week that Medicare started, in 1984. It's the same provider number I use now, to this very day. Before the coalition gets too excited, I don't use it to bill Medicare. I use it because it's required for some procedures, such as referrals to specialists et cetera, and to make sure patients get access to some of the government schemes, such as the supporting kids with autism scheme, so they can get allied health approvals. I rise to speak on the public importance of the Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No.1) Bill not just as a member of parliament but as someone with a deep understanding of the importance of providing efficient health care to everyone in an equitable manner and the firsthand experience of administrative bottleneck.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It took me weeks and weeks to get my Medicare provider number. Even though the scheme had been explained and well resourced at the beginning, it was a huge bureaucratic nightmare. The relief I got when I got my provider number was unbelievable. It's been the mainstay of my professional life since that time, over 40 years. I personally experienced the difficulties involved in obtaining a Medicare provider number, as have many of my colleagues, in particular my young medical students, once they finish their training and work as residents and registrars are looking to further their professional lives, either as general practitioners or as specialists.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Over many years there have been refinements to the scheme, but this bill is long overdue and is an important way of increasing people's access to medical care, increasing bulk-billing and ensuring the availability of doctors. In my electorate, which is outer south-western metropolitan Sydney, there are still huge difficulties in attracting doctors to work in our communities, at both a general practice and a specialist level. Improving access to Medicare provider numbers will help with that a lot.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The application processes can be quite challenging and processing timeframes very lengthy, particularly for overseas health professionals, delaying them from commencing work in the Australian healthcare system and, I suspect, also preventing many from coming here. Acting on recommendation 2 of the Kruk review, this bill will amend the Health Insurance Act to streamline the application process for health practitioners, enabling them to receive a Medicare provider number more quickly and provide healthcare services sooner. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Amendments made by schedule 2 to the bill will enable the Chief Executive Medicare to approve the use of computer programs to make more-appropriate non-discretionary decisions to allocate Medicare provider numbers, whilst all decisions to refuse a provider number will continue to be checked and authorised by the Chief Executive Medicare or their delegate. This bill will validate previously issued Medicare provider numbers that were issued by a computer program.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The department has been in consultation with the relevant agencies who support the legislative component to support the automation of Medicare provider numbers and are supportive of this decision. We're working with state and territory governments, education providers and regulators to implement the recommendations of the independent review of health practitioner regulatory settings, led by the highly respected health administrator Ms Robyn Kruk AO.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is a significant improvement to the administration of our healthcare services to ensure that overseas doctors—who make up around 50 per cent of the doctors practising in Australia, do tremendous work providing quality care and play a vital role in easing our workforce shortage and have done for many decades—will spend less time navigating bureaucratic hurdles and instead be able to care for our most vulnerable in all areas of Australia, particularly in outer metropolitan and rural and regional areas, and care for people who really need it. Having the right skills is critical to the success of the government's agenda. We know that. This bill will make it easier for medical practitioners who are well qualified to get access to Medicare billing.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 2 of this bill will see the amendment of chapters 2, 3 and 6 of the Private Health Insurance Act 2007 to support the processes for claiming private health insurance rebates under the premiums reduction scheme. The Australian government reimburses private health insurers for the proportion of health insurance premiums that are reduced on behalf of consumers under the premiums reduction scheme. Each year, rebate repayments in excess of $7 billion are paid in this manner. The private health insurance rebate is an essential element of our healthcare system, one that makes private health insurance more affordable for Australians by funding part of their premium. The premiums reduction scheme allows eligible people to choose to get the rebate at the time they pay their private health insurance premium—and I'm certainly a beneficiary of that—rather than pay the full cost of the premium and then claim a deduction back through their tax return at the end of the financial year.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Under the scheme, the insurer reduces the premium payable by the policyholder by the amount of the rebate and then claims reimbursement of the amount through a system administered by Services Australia. Over time it's become clear that parts of the registration and claims process for the scheme haven't always lined up with the rules set out in the Private Health Insurance Act, resulting in some inconsistencies with its administration. To fix that, this bill is introducing some changes to help the system run more smoothly and support the operation of the registration and claims system—which is yet again another way this government understands health care and understands the importance of getting people access to health care, making the process more streamlined.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Chief Executive Medicare is now able, with this bill, to use automated systems to handle registrations and claims. These changes will make it possible to recover any overpayments caused by system errors. Changes were made to our healthcare system last year with the introduction of the Health Insurance Legislation Amendment (Assignment of Medicare Benefits) Act 2024, which modernised and simplified how patients assigned their Medicare benefits. In a modernised era, the changes were made to align with the times and move away from paper based processes and to support a digital assignment option.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill supports the modernising of the assignment of Medicare benefits by addressing the limitations of the assignment of Medicare benefits and the Health Insurance Act, and it supports regulations, allowing for a patient to assign their Medicare benefits—which will underpin further increases in bulk-billing, particularly with our new supports for bulk-billing processes in the general practitioner field. We understand that these processes and changes can be tedious and time consuming, but we have listened to IT vendors, state and territory governments, medical peak body groups and other stakeholders who have expressed concerns with the timeline of delivering rebate changes and also with the extension of provider numbers.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">To provide sufficient time for medical and health industries—particularly the private sector, to allow for software updates to reflect new assignment benefit processes—this legislation is being introduced. The extensions of time will allow the health sector, medical industry providers and patients to prepare for any changes. Our government is committed to easing the cost-of-living pressures and ensuring people receive the care and treatment they need, and our government has committed funding to implement these reforms, which will further streamline the process for patients and also for medical practitioners. We are ensuring that the passage of this bill will be a further string in the Albanese government's election commitment of $7.9 billion to improve bulk-billing incentive payments, to encourage increased bulk-billing rates and to further ensure that more Australians can see a GP and their specialists for free.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Department of Health, Disability and Ageing has been in consultation with all relevant parties for these amendments—from patient representatives, stakeholders, private health insurers and hospitals to state and territory governments—and has taken feedback and recommendations to provide a seamless transition. This is what Australians deserve, and it's one thing that Labor governments have done: ensured that the Australian population can receive the health care it needs, making our healthcare system the envy of the rest of the world. Australians deserve to have fairer and affordable access to see a doctor when they need to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill, furthermore, will amend the Bonded Medical Program—a program which provides eligible students with a subsidised Commonwealth supported place in a medical degree at university in exchange for a commitment to work in a regional, rural or remote area after graduation. There have been concerns about the bonded program for some time. Students sign up when they're very young, and their circumstances often change. Sometimes it can be quite difficult for students when they get a partner or get married, or when families change, to continue to work in a region they thought they were originally going to be bonded to. It can also affect specialist training positions that require people to work in tertiary- or quaternary-level hospitals to complete their specialist training, and that can be quite difficult if you're on a rural bonded scheme. We want to make sure that people can access extra training when they need to, so there are changes to the rural bonded scholarship scheme which will allow more flexibility. We want to make sure that we see sufficient health services across regional and rural areas, of course, and we have done many things to ensure that those living in the farthest areas of our country can access the same quality health care that they need and deserve. This bill will amend the Health Insurance Act to enhance the Bonded Medical Program by ensuring the consequences of breaching conditions of, or withdrawing from, the program fairly balance both the personal circumstances of the bonded participant and the broader interests of the community. It will allow all work completed by a bonded participant in good faith, consistent with program objectives, to be counted towards their return-of-service obligation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I recently met with one of my paediatric registrars who was on a rural bonded scholarship and needed some extra time to complete some subspecialty training at a specialist children's hospital. The scheme previously was very rigid and wouldn't allow that to happen. This scheme will now allow that to happen, which will mean she will still deliver her service in the regional area she was committed to, while being allowed time to complete her training at the highly specialised unit. This is a very, very good thing, and I fully support it. I've been contacted by a number of medical students who face this predicament, and it's honestly a shame to see the stress that some of them have been put under. I'm glad that this bill allows more flexibility. We have seen significant workforce shortages because of lack of uptake of the rural bonded scholarships, and this will allow more of those scholarships to be taken up, improving access to really high-level health care in rural and regional areas.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Currently, students have the option to withdraw from the program without any consequences, and I think that there still should be some consequences. If they decide to withdraw after a specific date, they will face a significant financial penalty, and I think that the Commonwealth will be able to encourage more people to take up the schemes if they know that there are rules in place. This bill proposes an important change. It seeks to extend the existing grace period from the HECS census date in the second year all the way through to the completion of the medical degree. This bill will also give the Minister for Health and Ageing new powers to create additional rules to recognise work already completed by bonded participants. This means we're in alliance with the goals of the program. Work done even before transitioning to the statutory Bonded Medical Program can count towards fulfilling return-of-service obligations, and that's a very important change.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese government is committed to strengthening our healthcare system, as always. I'm very proud to be part of a government with the Labor tradition of supporting equitable access to health care. I commend this bill to the House, and I thank the minister and the assistant minister for bringing it to the House.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2027</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Garland, Carina MP</name>
                <name.id>295588</name.id>
                <electorate>Chisholm</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="295588" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr GARLAND</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Chisholm</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:08</span>):  As we've heard from the previous speaker, securing and supporting Medicare's future is absolutely so important to the Albanese Labor government. We've delivered urgent care clinics right across the country, including one in Mount Waverley, in my own electorate. I know that in the City of Stonnington area, which is in my electorate too, there is currently a tender out for another urgent care clinic, which is very welcomed by the community.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025 makes amendments to legislation in the health portfolio to make sure we strengthen Medicare. Of course, this is one of my favourite topics of conversation in this place, as indeed it is for everyone sitting on this side of the House. Schedule 1 of the bill will streamline the allocation of Medicare provider numbers under the Health Insurance Act, allowing practitioners to treat patients sooner. We know that the sooner people are able to access medical services, generally the better the health outcomes can be.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Amendments under schedule 1 will allow the Chief Executive Medicare to approve the use of a computer program to make appropriate non-discretionary decisions to allocate Medicare provider numbers in line with the review of Australia's regulatory settings for overseas health professionals. Decisions to refuse a provider number will continue to be checked and authorised by the Chief Executive Medicare or their delegate. Some Medicare provider numbers have already been allocated through the use of a computer program without any clear legislative support, and this bill will tidy up that process and validate previous computer issued Medicare provider numbers. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Currently an overseas health professional faces a wait time of up to three months for a Medicare practitioner number, delaying them from commencing work in the Australian health system and treating patients under Medicare. We all know how important it is that everyone has access to health professionals when they need them. Reducing the time it takes for Medicare numbers to be issued will absolutely support the growth of our medical workforce, which is a clear priority for the Albanese Labor government. Internationally qualified health practitioners currently supplement the domestic workforce and aid in addressing workforce shortages, making for a more sustainable health workforce overall. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 2 of this bill will amend the Private Health Insurance Act to support the process for claiming the private health insurance rebate under the premiums reduction scheme. This will ensure that registrations for the private health insurance rebate scheme and claims under the scheme are administered consistently under the act. This will also ensure that persons are validly registered as participants and that payments of rebates to insurers are lawful. The private health insurance rebate scheme is an initiative to help Australians cover the cost of premiums, supporting access to private healthcare services for participants. We know that individuals who are eligible for the private health insurance rebate can claim the rebate as a premium reduction through their private health insurer or as a tax offset. Under the scheme, the private health insurer claims a reimbursement through a system administered by Services Australia and reduces the premium payable by the policyholder by the amount of the rebate. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Some elements of the registration and claims processing system for the premiums reduction scheme have been administered inconsistently with the requirements of the Private Health Insurance Act. Schedule 2 of the bill will amend the Private Health Insurance Act to align the registration process in division 23 with the requirements of the system operated by Services Australia; provide for self-assessment by participating insurers of the amount of rebate required to be reimbursed in division 279; require an insurer to provide information or documents to support their claim; ensure overpayments can be recovered, despite any unintended system or process defects, through division 282; and allow for computer assisted decision-making and the approval of forms and systems by the Chief Executive Medicare under division 333. Participating insurers will continue to be subject to regular post-payment compliance activities to ensure integrity of the payment process, and the amendments will support the existing registration and claims processes in such a way that there will be minimal impact on consumers and private health insurers. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Of course, strengthening bulk-billing is a priority of the Albanese Labor government, and schedule 3 of the bill will amend the Health Insurance Act 1973 to modernise assignments of the Medicare benefits process. Assignment of benefit is a longstanding requirement of the Health Insurance Act, and it underpins payments of Medicare benefits where the patient assigns their right to benefit to a medical provider, private health insurer or approved billing agent. Last year, as one of many measures our government has taken to strengthen Medicare, the parliament passed the Health Insurance Legislation Amendment (Assignment of Medicare Benefits) Act 2024 with its changes to assignment benefits commencing 18 months from the day the act received royal assent. It streamlined the assignment process for patients, for medical providers, for private health insurers and for approved billing agents and also enabled digital assignment options. The bill before us now will build on those changes and address limitations of the assignment-of-benefits act. This bill will delay the commencement of the assignment-of-benefits act to 1 July 2026, which will support industry and consumers to comply with the new assignment-of-benefits requirements, and it will allow time for new processes to be developed and for IT systems to be updated. In the meantime, bulk-billing can continue under the current processes, including additional incentives for bulk-billed services which will start from 1 November this year in line with the government's election commitment.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Bulk-billing is vital for equitable access to health care. It helps with cost-of-living pressures and ensures every Australian receives the best health care they deserve. Our government is passionate about bulk-billing. The government has committed $15.2 million in 2025-26 to fund the implementation of reforms outlined in the assignment-of-benefits act and subordinate regulations. This includes updates to Services Australia's software systems and education and communications activities to ensure stakeholders are aware of and prepared for new digital arrangements. The passage of this bill will ensure that the Albanese Labor government's 2025 election commitment of $7.9 billion in bulk-billing incentive payments to encourage increased bulk-billing rates will not be adversely impacted by non-compliant business software.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 4 of this bill will amend the Health Insurance Act 1973 to ensure the consequences for Bonded Medical Program participants who withdraw from the program or fail to complete their return-of-service obligation are fair. It will balance the personal circumstances of the bonded participant and the broader interest of the community and allow all work completed by a bonded participant in good faith, consistent with program objectives, to be counted towards their return-of-service obligation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill allows the Minister for Health and Ageing to make additional rules to ensure that past work completed by bonded participants delivering health services in regional, rural and remote locations in Australia, for instance, can count it to their return-of-service obligation where this is consistent with program objectives. Currently, former Medical Rural Bonded Scholarship Scheme bonded participants who fail to complete their return-of-service obligation within the allowed 18-year period or who have withdrawn earlier face repayment of their scholarship and a six-year Medicare ban. While the financial penalty is appropriate, subjecting these doctors to a Medicare ban will jeopardise continued service provision and access to care for Australians living in regional, rural and remote communities and in other areas of workforce shortage. Given those broader workforce shortages, a six-year Medicare ban is not in the interests of either the doctor or the Australian community. Students can currently withdraw from the program without consequence up to the HECS census date in their second year of study. If the student withdraws after that date, they incur a debt to the Commonwealth equal to the full cost of their Commonwealth supported place up to the date of the withdrawal. This will be in addition to their HECS-HELP liability.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our government is squarely focused on strengthening Medicare and on ensuring that we have a strong health workforce. That means that Australians, no matter where they live, are able to access high-quality medical care when they need it. This is part of our ongoing commitment to strengthen Medicare, to fight for Medicare and to ensure that bulk-billing is accessible and equitable. I'm really pleased to support this bill in the House today.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2029</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Campbell, Julie-Ann MP</name>
                <name.id>312823</name.id>
                <electorate>Moreton</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CAMPBELL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moreton</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:19</span>):  I rise to speak on the Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025. When we talk about Medicare, what we know about Medicare is that it is the embodiment of Labor values. It is who we are, and it represents what we care about when it comes to health, which is ensuring that it doesn't matter what's in your pay packet. No matter what you earn, you and your family should have access to world-class medical care with just your Medicare card. And this is not something that we just say. This is not something that we just talk about. This is something that we do every single day. We do it when we talk about the institution of urgent care clinics. We do it when we see urgent care clinics—more and more of them—pop up around our suburbs to make sure that people have the care they need close to home. We do it when we open up more Medicare mental health clinics, and we have one coming to the south side in Brisbane very shortly. We do it when we invest in bulk-billing so more people can access critical GP services, again closer to home. We created Medicare, and Labor works every day to make it even better.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Medicare is a vast system. I don't think that any of us, when we hand over our little green card to the medical receptionist, think about how far the services stretch and how the system is administered. That is understandable, because after all, when you visit an urgent care clinic with your injured child, you have other things on your mind, and, when you go to your bulk-billed GP because you're feeling under the weather, you're not thinking about the back-end systems behind your visit. You're just grateful, as you dig into your pocket for your Medicare card, that you have one fewer bill to pay. This is the foundation of Medicare—that, when you and your family are affected by illness or injury, you shouldn't have to break the bank to receive high-quality health care. But it is worth looking at the system as a whole. It helps to put into context just how valuable Medicare is to Australians. In 2004-05, the value of Medicare services delivered was $475.2 million. The total amount of benefits paid in the same period was $32.4 billion, and this is for services ranging from GP visits to obstetrics, diagnostic imaging, optometry, allied health and radiotherapy—and the list goes on and on.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm incredibly proud to be part of a Labor government that believes in universal health care and continues to strengthen Medicare to ensure the scheme is both robust and sustainable. At times, that means fine-tuning Medicare's administrative systems, and that is what the Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025 does. It will ensure better administration and delivery of the system that we all rely on.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As its name suggests, the bill covers a range of reforms. The first is implementing the automation of Medicare provider numbers. This is the second recommendation in the final report of the Independent Review of Australia's Regulatory Settings Relating to Overseas Health Practitioners, otherwise known as the Kruk review. The review was commissioned by National Cabinet in September 2022, with the aim of recommending measures to streamline and simplify health practitioner regulation. The overarching goal was to decrease the skills shortages in vital health professions while maintaining required quality and safety standards. In short, we need our health professionals to have stronger skills and to have the support to do it. The resulting report in August 2023, from Robyn Kruk AO, acknowledged persistent shortages in the registered health practitioner workforce, and these shortages led to some communities not having access to a GP, a nurse led clinic or a dental or mental health service within a 60-minute drive. Other negative effects of the shortages included critical health services such as maternity or dental being closed down in some places and wait times for specialists blowing out, in some cases to as long as four years.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The issuance of Medicare provider numbers is currently part of the lengthy and time-consuming process of registering to provide Medicare services. An MPN enables the health practitioner to claim, refer or request Medicare services, and health practitioners require an MPN for each practice location. MPNs are currently allocated by the Chief Executive Medicare via the Human Services (Medicare) Act 1973. The report recommended automating the issuance of MPNs to speed up the approval processes and result in more practitioners being available to provide services more quickly, and that's what this is all about—making sure that we have more practitioners and that they can provide services to the communities that need them most in an efficient and effective way. This bill will amend the Health Insurance Act 1973 to establish the function of allocating MPNs within the act, enabling the Chief Executive Medicare to approve automation, and will also validate MPNs previously issued automatically. What this means in practice is that the Chief Executive Medicare can approve the use of computer programs to allocate MPNs. However, it's important to note that a decision to refuse a health practitioner an MPN must be reviewed by a qualified employee of Services Australia.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The second focus of this bill is streamlining private health insurance rebate payments. Each year, over $7 billion is reimbursed to private health insurers under the premiums reduction scheme. This rebate helps reduce the cost of health insurance premiums for Australians, making private health care more accessible and more affordable. However, Services Australia and the Department of Health, Disability and Ageing identified that some parts of the registration and claims processing system have not been operating consistently with the requirements of the Private Health Insurance Act 2007 since the scheme began. The bill will amend the Private Health Insurance Act to correct the operation of registration and claims systems. It introduces a self-assessment model for insurers claiming reimbursements. It will also align the registration requirements for individual participants with the current system requirements. The Chief Executive Medicare will be empowered to introduce automated decision-making capabilities to manage registration and claims more efficiently and more effectively. The bill also implements a safeguard, with assurance that any overpayments resulting from system errors or process issues can be recovered. These reforms are designed to uphold the objectives of the premiums reduction scheme and will ensure that participants are properly registered and that rebate payments are made lawfully.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The third part of this bill will amend the Health Insurance Act 1973 to resolve key legal and operational issues and delay the commencement of changes introduced by the Health Insurance Legislation Amendment (Assignment of Medicare Benefits) Act. The concept of assignment of benefit has long been a cornerstone of Medicare. It allows patients to assign their right to a Medicare benefit to a medical provider, private health insurer or approved billing agent, enabling the government to make payments directly on their behalf. The assignment-of-benefits act was introduced to strengthen the integrity of this process. It streamlined how benefits are assigned and introduced digital options to replace outdated, paper based systems, because this is a system that we all care about and it's a system that needs to be kept up to date as technology moves forward and as that technology allows people who need Medicare to access it more effectively and more efficiently. These reforms were essential to modernise Medicare and ensure it remains responsive to the needs of patients and providers alike. Importantly, the bill will delay the commencement of schedule 1 of the assignment-of-benefits act, which was originally set to begin in January 2026. The new start date of 1 July 2026 will give both industry and consumers the time they need to prepare and adapt to the changes, particularly where private sector software must be updated to reflect the new assignment processes. Bulk-billing will continue under current arrangements, with additional incentives commencing from the 1st of next month for bulk-billing services. These reforms are supported by $15.2 million worth of funding in 2025-26, and this is being directed towards updating Services Australia's systems and delivering education and communication to ensure stakeholders are ready for the transition to digital assignment.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill safeguards the Albanese Labor government's $7.2 billion commitment to bulk-billing incentive payments. It ensures that these incentives will not be undermined by non-compliant business software or administrative delays. It ensures that these amendments are here to stay. The bill's final amendment to the Health Insurance Act 1973 enhances the Bonded Medical Program. This program provides a Commonwealth supported place in—</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Chesters</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Order! I do apologise to the member for Moreton. The debate is interrupted in accordance with standing order 43. The debate may be resumed at a later hour. The member will be given leave to continue speaking when the debate is resumed.</span>
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                  <page.no>2030</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Chesters, Lisa MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>249710</name.id>
                  <electorate>Bendigo</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
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        <page.no>2030</page.no>
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          <title>Renewable Energy</title>
          <page.no>2030</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>2030</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Boyce, Colin MP</name>
              <name.id>299498</name.id>
              <electorate>Flynn</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299498" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BOYCE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Flynn</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:30</span>):  Today I rise to applaud the recently launched Australian renewables truth map by Steven Nowakowski and Rainforest Reserves Australia. It has taken three years of voluntary work to collate the information to create this website, and it's not an easy task to find and then map it for everybody in Australia to view and use. With over 1,200 projects proposed across the country, this should have been on the radar of our own environmental department, the Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water. After all, they're the ones signing off on the vast amounts of clearing to allow half a billion solar panels and more than 31,000 wind turbines to be imported and installed across Australia.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The mapping has allowed the real costs of the projects to be calculated, and it's not free energy. It is an astonishing $1.38 trillion to industrialise Australia with intermittent and unreliable power, clearing over 44,000 kilometres of new access roads—up to 60 metres wide—to allow for blades and infrastructure around 100 metres long. These are the real costs. There are over 90 of these projects in the Flynn electorate, including Moah Creek. The projects directly affect significant amounts of flora and fauna, including ancient cycads that should be protected under the EPBC Act. These landscapes must be preserved.</span>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Carrington Bridge</title>
          <page.no>2030</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Carrington Bridge</span>
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        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2030</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP</name>
              <name.id>248181</name.id>
              <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CLAYDON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Newcastle</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Speaker</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:31</span>):  I rise today to lend my very strong support to a community led campaign to formally name the Carrington Bridge in honour of the late Neil Pitt. Carrington Bridge is the gateway that connects this proud peninsula community to the rest of Newcastle. It's a vital part of Carrington's unique identity and the close-knit community spirit that bind its residents together. The proposal to name the Carrington Bridge after Neil Pitt is a fitting and enduring tribute to his life of selfless service.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Neil was an extraordinary Novocastrian, a tireless volunteer, a passionate advocate and a deeply loved and well-respected member of the Carrington community. His passing has been felt profoundly by all who knew him. Each morning on his walk to the local shops, Neil would call in on his neighbours, dropping off items that people needed, checking in and generally lifting community spirits wherever he visited. He gave so much of himself to others, especially to those in aged-care residences—which I know he visited for a number of decades, offering a friendly smile and a listening ear.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Neil embodied the very best of community spirit. That's why I'm backing this petition. Every person who crosses the bridge at Carrington would be reminded of his remarkable contribution to the heart and soul of Carrington. I commend the organisers of this petition for their commitment to preserving Neil's legacy, and I encourage all members of our community to add their voices of support.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Mount Magnet District High School</title>
          <page.no>2031</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Mount Magnet District High School</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2031</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Price, Melissa Lee MP</name>
              <name.id>249308</name.id>
              <electorate>Durack</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249308" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms PRICE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Durack</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:33</span>):  Last month I had the privilege of welcoming to Parliament House students and teachers from Mount Magnet District High School who travelled from the red dirt of Mount Magnet—one of WA's original and longest serving gold mining towns—to the heart of our nation's democracy. This school in the Mid West region educates around 90 students from kindergarten to year 10, guided by a simple but powerful set of expectations: 'We are respectful, we are responsible, we are achievers.'</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">With a strong Indigenous student population, the school weaves culture into the curriculum, keeping students connected to their heritage whilst preparing them for the future. I asked the students what they would do for their town if they were Prime Minister for a day. They said more houses, hospital upgrades and even an X-ray machine—practical solutions to the challenges that their families face. Others spoke about accessibility: wheelchair access at their school, a new arts centre, basketball courts, a swimming pool, a motocross track and even a dog park.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'd like to thank the students for their very thoughtful ideas. With a town population of around 450, their voices remind us that small regional communities must be heard, not ignored. I urge the government to listen to communities just like Mount Magnet and invest in the infrastructure and services that give each child, no matter where they live, the opportunity and chance to thrive.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>HMAS Cerberus</title>
          <page.no>2031</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">HMAS Cerberus</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2031</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Belyea, Jodie MP</name>
              <name.id>309484</name.id>
              <electorate>Dunkley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="309484" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BELYEA</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Dunkley</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:35</span>):  Last week, I had the pleasure of spending three days at HMAS <span style="font-style:italic;">Cerberus</span> in Hastings, visiting the Navy's national training base, which sits in the neighbouring electorate of Flinders. The purpose of the visit was to meet the staff and the new recruits, a number of whom live in Dunkley, and to better understand the different elements of the training the recruits complete.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I wasn't just a visitor. I was put through my paces alongside them. I participated in the swim trial, attended classes and enjoyed mealtimes with these young men and women to discover why they joined, what they learnt and what the most difficult part of the training was. The recruits and staff were passionate about being part of the Navy and committed to serving their country. That pride and dedication have been reflected in increased sign-ups over the past 12 months. To all of the staff, including Commander Cameron Eastman OAM, who coordinated our visit: thank you for your passion in delivering quality education and care to the recruits. To all of you: thank you for stepping up, for your representation and for your service to Australia. You are all legends. I walked away proud and inspired by our Defence Force. Well done.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Northern Beaches Hospital</title>
          <page.no>2031</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Northern Beaches Hospital</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2031</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Scamps, Sophie MP</name>
              <name.id>299623</name.id>
              <electorate>Mackellar</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299623" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr SCAMPS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mackellar</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:36</span>):  The Northern Beaches Hospital in Mackellar is the last public-private partnership hospital in New South Wales—but not for much longer. The private operator themselves conceded in April that it is best for patients, staff and the community that the Northern Beaches Hospital be transitioned to NSW Health to administer. The good news is the New South Wales government is currently working towards this transition. The transition of the public hospital means it will now be eligible for the same staff-to-patient ratios, junior doctor levels, IT systems and resourcing that is available to all other public hospitals across New South Wales.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The issues with the Northern Beaches Hospital were never about the staff. The medical professionals, nurses, midwives, allied health and administrative staff are all incredible and have worked tirelessly to deliver the best-quality care possible. However, there is a complexity with the transition, and that is that many of the public and private services are intermingled and will be tricky to untangle. But it is absolutely imperative that the transition does not impact the delivery of private healthcare services at the hospital.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In Mackellar, 77 per cent of adults have private hospital cover, so the people of the northern beaches need an assurance from the New South Wales health minister that the new model of care at the Northern Beaches Hospital retains the current level of private healthcare services, including the full complement of inpatient beds. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Victoria Floods: Third Anniversary</title>
          <page.no>2032</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Victoria Floods: Third Anniversary</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2032</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chesters, Lisa MP</name>
              <name.id>249710</name.id>
              <electorate>Bendigo</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249710" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CHESTERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bendigo</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:38</span>):  This month marks three years since the devastating floods that hit Rochester and parts of my electorate in October 2022. Yesterday was the three-year anniversary of when the rain started falling, which would go on to lead to Victoria's worst flood disaster on record, impacting 81 per cent of the state's local government areas. In my electorate of Bendigo, towns such as Heathcote, Huntly, Axedale, Marong, Campbells Creek and Rochester all experienced floodwaters above the floorboards. In the area of Rochester, the majority of the town's 3,000 constituents were displaced, with many forced into temporary accommodation. Three years on, some residents still can't return home—I acknowledge them today in this speech—and this is due to ongoing insurance disputes and building delays. It's unacceptable that, as I stand here today, they still are not in their homes. This has resulted in continued emotional, mental and financial distress for these families.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Three years on, this is a call to action. Whilst we at the federal level continue to work with local and state governments to improve flood mitigation to reduce disaster risk and build long-term resilience in our communities, we must also work collaboratively with the insurance industry on finding a better pathway not just for the constituents of Rochester but for all constituents. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Medical Research Future Fund</title>
          <page.no>2032</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Medical Research Future Fund</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2032</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ryan, Monique MP</name>
              <name.id>297660</name.id>
              <electorate>Kooyong</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="297660" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr RYAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kooyong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:39</span>):  The Medical Research Future Fund was established with the promise of a billion dollars a year to support Australia's world-class medical research sector. For 10 years, it has supported high-value research projects, investigating innovative solutions and translating them to real-world use. But, despite the Parliamentary Budget Office advising that the fund can now deliver $1.4 billion a year, less than half of that is being distributed by this government. While the fund keeps growing, it is bloated with unrealised opportunity. We have an opportunity to support brilliant research, but many high-quality projects and clinical trials never get off the ground, because of a lack of funding. Whole areas of chronic disease are undersupported, and we risk falling behind on developing technologies like proton therapy and AI. At the same time, we could right now be benefitting from the administrative instability in the US by recruiting world-leading researchers to swell our ranks. This government has no excuse—no reason—not to unlock the extraordinary potential of our medical researchers and our universities by supporting them with the taxpayers' funds that have been put aside for that very purpose. I would argue that the government has a duty to do so, and it should do so immediately.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>McIlwaine, Mr Greg</title>
          <page.no>2032</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">McIlwaine, Mr Greg</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2032</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Sitou, Sally MP</name>
              <name.id>298121</name.id>
              <electorate>Reid</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298121" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SITOU</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Reid</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:41</span>):  After an extraordinary 59 years of service to Rhodes Fire Station, including more than 40 years as captain, Greg McIlwaine has hung up his helmet and retired. Greg's name is synonymous with fire safety in our community. His leadership, commitment and deep local knowledge have protected generations of families across Rhodes and the City of Canada Bay, from hazardous industrial sites to high-rise developments and from Concord hospital to Rivendell School. Greg's dedication to fire prevention and rescue as well as pre-incident planning has been second to none.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Over his distinguished career, Greg has accrued a long list of honours. He's been awarded the Australian Fire Service medal, the National Medal with four clasps, the long service and good conduct medal, the New South Wales premier's Bushfire Emergency Citation and the National Emergency Medal. But Greg's legacy runs deeper than that. The McIlwaine family name has been part of Rhodes Fire Station since it began 104 years ago. The fire station was founded by Greg's grandfather Captain Charles McIlwaine. Greg is also a proud member of our local Labor family. His Labor values have never wavered, and he has handed out for the party on more occasions than can be counted. Greg, thank you for your service and leadership in our community.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Queensland: Sport</title>
          <page.no>2032</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Queensland: Sport</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2032</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Caldwell, Cameron MP</name>
              <name.id>306489</name.id>
              <electorate>Fadden</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="306489" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CALDWELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fadden</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Opposition Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:42</span>):  I rise today on what is a wonderful day here in Canberra, but it's an even better day in Queensland because we have been extremely successful with our sporting teams. I should give a shout-out to the Brisbane Lions, who won back-to-back premierships.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300147" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Violi:</span>
                  </a>  Boo!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="306489" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr CALDWELL:</span>
                  </a>  As for my friend the member for Casey, sadly his Collingwood Magpies were defeated in the prelims. But we went on to win back-to-back premierships—to Lachie Neale and Harris Andrews, coach Chris Fagan and, of course, Will Ashcroft, the Norm Smith medallist on the day. On the weekend, we saw that the Brisbane Broncos are now the NRL champions. I've been on the Broncos bandwagon since they started back in 1988, and it was a classic decider against another Melbourne team—sorry about that to all my Melbourne friends! The captain is Adam Reynolds, the coach is Michael Maguire and, Gold Coaster born and bred, the Clive Churchill Medal winner is Reece Walsh.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But that wasn't enough. Earlier that day the Brisbane Broncos NRLW team also won their premiership. To coach Scott Prince, captain Ali Brigginshaw and Karen Murphy: congratulations on what you did. Of course, earlier this year, to complete it all, the Queensland men won another State of Origin series. So Queensland really is the sporting capital of Australia.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2032</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Violi, Aaron MP</name>
                <name.id>300147</name.id>
                <electorate>Casey</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
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          <continue>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2032</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Caldwell, Cameron MP</name>
                <name.id>306489</name.id>
                <electorate>Fadden</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Kelly, Mr Jack</title>
          <page.no>2033</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Kelly, Mr Jack</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2033</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Laxale, Jerome MP</name>
              <name.id>299174</name.id>
              <electorate>Bennelong</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299174" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LAXALE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bennelong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:44</span>):  I rise today to congratulate Lane Cove journalist Jack Kelly on his nomination for a Walkley Foundation Mid-Year Media Prize in public service journalism. Jack reports for In the Cove, a local news outlet that so many in our community turn to for trusted grassroots reporting. In the Cove also run the local chat group, the source of brilliant posts about all sorts of things, including 'breadgate', the mysterious bread saga of River Road. I digress, though—back to Jack and his nominated story 'Cabling cowboys'. This uncovered serious risks posed by cabling operators in the Lane Cove community. It was thorough, fearless reporting that shone a light on a problem few knew about but many were affected by.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Jack's work didn't just inform the public; it actually helped deliver change. After personally reading his coverage, I was able to raise it directly with the then minister for communications. That led to direct engagement with the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman, who opened an investigation into provider delays and poor customer service. Importantly, because of that extra attention, many of the issues uncovered by Jack and In the Cove's journalism were fixed.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Walkleys are the gold standard of Australian journalism. For a young reporter like Jack to be recognised at this level is an extraordinary achievement, and it just shows how important local media like In the Cove is to our democracy. On behalf of Bennelong, thanks to Jack and thanks to In the Cove. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Aged Care</title>
          <page.no>2033</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Aged Care</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2033</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chaffey, Jamie MP</name>
              <name.id>316312</name.id>
              <electorate>Parkes</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316312" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CHAFFEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Parkes</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:45</span>):  It was great news to hear that close to $56.5 million in funding has been allocated to three aged-care providers in the Parkes electorate through the Aged Care Capital Assistance Program. Notably, Southern Cross Care received $50.66 million for a new 94-bed residential care home in Broken Hill, a facility that is desperately needed; the Lilliane Brady Village Hostel, in Cobar, was allocated just over $1.5 million; and the Cooinda aged-care facility in Coonabarabran was allocated $4.3 million.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We're all aware that Australia's population is ageing. The Australian Human Rights Commission notes that an ageing population is one of the major forces shaping Australia's future. In addition, the Australian Electoral Commission notes that rural and regional electorates, such as the Parkes electorate, have higher proportions of people over the age of 50. Our ageing population deserve security of housing and deserve security of care.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Having said that, I know the competition is fierce for the limited funding that is only going to get more competitive. So much time, resources and effort go into applying for funds needed to provide these essential projects, with no guarantee of success. Well done to the aged-care providers in Broken Hill, Cobar and Coonabarabran as well as to all of those who applied and weren't successful. Providing enough funding to keep up with aged-care needs for those who have given so much to our communities must remain a high priority for government.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Swan Young Changemakers Conference</title>
          <page.no>2033</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Swan Young Changemakers Conference</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2033</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Mascarenhas, Zaneta MP</name>
              <name.id>298800</name.id>
              <electorate>Swan</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298800" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms MASCARENHAS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Swan</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:47</span>):  Mental health, housing, AI, social cohesion and the future of work—these are issues that year 11 students in my electorate tackled head-on at the Swan Young Changemakers Conference. Students brought bold, thoughtful ideas grounded in lived experience. They may be too young to vote, but they are not too young to be heard. To the delightful baby that we have in the gallery: you are never too young to be heard on the floor of the parliament!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is a generation that has a unique insight on known challenges, such as balancing good pay and pursuing your passion, and newer issues like having quality online content as opposed to 'AI generated slop' and making social media work for connection and social good, not advertisers' profits and social harm.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This was the second youth conference that I've hosted at the amazing Pawsey supercomputer centre. Behind us, machines were processing data from the stars. In front of us, young humans' minds were processing the future. I look forward to presenting these ideas to my ministerial colleagues. And I give a special thanks to my team; the young mentors and facilitators; Aditi, Mark and the Pawsey team; Senator Whiteaker and Senator Walker; and of course the amazing students themselves.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>National Mental Health Month</title>
          <page.no>2034</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">National Mental Health Month</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2034</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Venning, Tom MP</name>
              <name.id>315434</name.id>
              <electorate>Grey</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="315434" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr VENNING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grey</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:48</span>):  I rise to acknowledge that October is National Mental Health Month. This month reminds us all of the opportunities we have to start conversations that can save lives, to ask 'Are you okay?' And it reminds us that good mental health is as important as good physical health.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to take this opportunity to recognise the vital role of those on the front line supporting Australians who need it most. Thank you for the enduring difference you make to people's lives. However, we cannot ignore that access to mental health services is not the same everywhere. Unfortunately, you have greater access to mental health support in Mongolia than you do in regional South Australia. And, if you can find it, there are long distances to travel, limited specialists and, in many cases, months of waiting. This is an unacceptable reality for many people in my electorate of Grey.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I note the work of the previous coalition government, which delivered record mental health funding; opened headspace and Medicare mental health centres in Port Lincoln, Whyalla, Port Augusta and Port Pirie; and created the Head to Health support service. By contrast, Labor has cut the services and left Australians paying more out-of-pocket costs than ever before, yet the Prime Minister told us that this Medicare card is all we will need under Labor. Australians deserve better than the broken promises and lies of this government.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Midland Meals</title>
          <page.no>2034</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Midland Meals</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2034</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Lawrence, Tania MP</name>
              <name.id>299150</name.id>
              <electorate>Hasluck</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299150" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LAWRENCE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hasluck</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:50</span>):  A local organisation in my electorate of Hasluck making a real difference is Midland Meals. Food insecurity is a reality faced by too many people across Australia. That's why the work of Midlands Meals is so vital. Every week, Midland Meals provides around 870 meals to those living in Midland, Ellenbrook and Bassendean—that is seven days a week, 365 days a year. That commitment is extraordinary. Last week, I had the honour of joining the team to serve dinner. What struck me was the sense of dignity, respect and care that every person received. It's not just about a meal; it's about community, compassion and hope. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I would like to acknowledge the vision and compassion of Pastor Loren Pratt. Loren saw people in need, and he decided to act. From humble beginnings, Midland Meals has grown to the incredible organisation that it is today. As their local member, I'm proud to stand alongside Midland Meals. They are one of 25 organisations in Hasluck that have received grant funding through the 2024-25 Hasluck Volunteer Grants. The Midland Meals volunteer grants went towards purchasing two laptops for volunteer coordinators to use to roster the more than 300 volunteers. This is money well spent. While today I focus on Midland Meals, each of the 25 organisations that received grants is serving our community in unique, creative and very impactful ways. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Casey Electorate: Mental Health</title>
          <page.no>2034</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Casey Electorate: Mental Health</span>
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        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2034</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Violi, Aaron MP</name>
              <name.id>300147</name.id>
              <electorate>Casey</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300147" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr VIOLI</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Casey</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Opposition Chief Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:51</span>):  This Thursday, 9 October, is headspace Day—an annual day dedicated to the mental health and wellbeing of young Australians. I'd like to thank the dedicated teams at headspace Lilydale and headspace Knox for the work they do in supporting young people in our community. But, in an electorate that spans over 2,700 square kilometres, we undoubtedly need more services available. The sad reality is that suicide remains the leading cause of death for young Australians aged 18 to 24. Too many young Australians are struggling with wait times, the expense of appointments and the ongoing stigma that leaves many afraid to reach out for support.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">My community in Casey has felt acutely the government's failure when it comes to mental health support. The former Liberal government funded the Lilydale Youth Hub, but, when the Albanese Labor government won the 2022 federal election, they cut funding and forced the hub to close down. The government has also slashed Medicare funded mental health sessions from 20 to just 10, halving the spots available for young people in need. I've met with headspace in my community, and I know they are at capacity. Our community needs access to alternative local mental health supports, and I'll continue advocating for the mental health supports our community deserves and needs.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>EXP.Restaurant</title>
          <page.no>2034</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">EXP.Restaurant</span>
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        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2034</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Repacholi, Dan MP</name>
              <name.id>298840</name.id>
              <electorate>Hunter</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298840" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr REPACHOLI</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hunter</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:53</span>):  It's another day and another Hunter success story in hospo! I'm proud to stand here and talk about a local gem from back home that is punching well above its weight. EXP.Restaurant, right in the heart of the Hunter Valley, has been named a finalist for the Regional Restaurant of the Year award in the <span style="font-style:italic;">Sydney Morning Herald</span><span style="font-style:italic;">Good Food Guide</span>. It's not just about fine dining; it's about passion, community and telling the Hunter story one plate at a time. For a full decade, Frank and Emma Fawkner and their talented team have been serving dishes that showcase the very best of our region: produce grown in the Hunter soil, wines poured from Hunter vineyards and native ingredients that remind us we are lucky to live in the best part of Australia.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">EXP has become more than a restaurant; it's a true destination. People come to the Hunter to experience its creativity and hospitality and to see why the valley is known worldwide for food and wine. It's also brought out their commitment to sustainability and their support for local growers, giving visitors a genuine and authentic taste of home. To Frank, Emma and the whole EXP team: congratulations. You are proof that, when it comes to great food and great wine, the Hunter always leads the way. There's nowhere you'd rather be than right there in the Hunter. Cheers!</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Aramco STEM Racing World Finals</title>
          <page.no>2035</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Aramco STEM Racing World Finals</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2035</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wilson, Tim MP</name>
              <name.id>IMW</name.id>
              <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="IMW" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TIM WILSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Goldstein</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:54</span>):  It's unparliamentary to be called a 'lunartic', but today it's a badge of pride. Last year, Team Lunar from Brighton Grammar School came third at the world STEM racing championships in Saudi Arabia. STEM racing is a global multidisciplinary challenge where teams test a miniature F1 car powered by CO2 canisters. Last week, Team Lunar made Australia proud, beating 1.8 million participants and 83 teams worldwide to win the 2025 Aramco STEM Racing World Finals in Singapore. Led by team manager Leo Jansen, Team Lunar included CAD engineer Ollie Chernikeeff, CAM engineer Liam Jones, engineer director Max Zylberman and enterprise director Max Zhou. Congratulations, lunartics. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Ad Astra from BGS also competed, making the semifinals in the knockout round, led by manager Ethan Davis. He was supported by an incredible team: Bill Wang, Gianlucca Stavros, Darsh Shah, Max Henley, Jack Tan, Reggie Cooke and Sam Hevey. I say thank you also to their support team of family, friends and sponsors, in particular the teachers Jamie Watson, Thivi Athipar and Mathew Steed; their adviser Jenson Galvin; and their headmaster, Ross Featherston. We're immensely proud of your achievements and everything you've done to put Goldstein and BGS on the map and to make Australia successful.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Hunt, Jennifer</title>
          <page.no>2035</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Hunt, Jennifer</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2035</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Gosling, Luke MP</name>
              <name.id>245392</name.id>
              <electorate>Solomon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="245392" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GOSLING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Solomon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:56</span>):  I'm delighted to share a moment of inspiration from a visit to Nhulunbuy, in Arnhem Land, last week. I was visiting in my capacity as the special envoy for defence and northern Australia. I caught up with 15-year-old Darwin local Jennifer Hunt, who is about to start the final leg of her 21-day solo circumnavigation of Australia by air along with her loyal copilot, her puppy Bella, a little golden retriever—beautiful thing! At just 15, Jennifer has flown herself around the entire country, starting in Darwin and following the entire Australian coastline counterclockwise, including Tasmania. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Jennifer has become the youngest female to circumnavigate Australia solo, which speaks volumes about her courage, skill and determination, so I want to really acknowledge Jennifer Hunt's incredible achievement and acknowledge also her parents, Geoff and Kylie, whose support for their daughter has been unwavering. I give thanks to Air Frontier, Darwin Flight Training and the many supporters around the country who made Jennifer's journey possible. She's made history. She's made us very proud in the Territory and around Australia, and she's shown what Territory grit and spirit can achieve. In Jennifer's own words, 'Follow your dreams.'</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Telecommunications</title>
          <page.no>2035</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Telecommunications</span>
            </p>
          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2035</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McIntosh, Melissa MP</name>
              <name.id>281513</name.id>
              <electorate>Lindsay</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281513" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mrs McINTOSH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lindsay</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:57</span>):  Whether you're on the benches, in the gallery or anywhere across Australia, when you call triple 0 in your greatest time of need, you expect your call to be answered. But, sadly, three weeks ago people's calls were not answered, and four people have died. There have been many questions of Optus over these last three weeks, but there are also questions of the government. Why did the minister appoint ACMA, the regulator, as the investigator and then choof off to New York? </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Here we are three weeks later, and all of a sudden it's so urgent for us to rush through legislation to protect Australians. ACMA should not be the investigator in this case. ACMA was part of the failed process. ACMA heard of the Optus outage on Thursday, but the minister says she did not know about it until Friday. Why is that? Why is the minister appointing ACMA as the investigator? Australians deserve a thorough independent investigation into the whole triple 0 network. We should also have an assurance that there's transparency in the system. There needs to be a register that records every single triple 0 outage so Australians can have confidence that, when they pick up the phone in their greatest time of need, it'll be answered. Right now, the government should be protecting every single Australian, not spending their time on overseas jaunts.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Veterans: The Last Post</title>
          <page.no>2035</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Veterans: The Last Post</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2035</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burnell, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>300129</name.id>
              <electorate>Spence</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300129" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURNELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Spence</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:59</span>):  The Last Post are a local South Australian based team of veterans dedicated to capturing the untold stories of those who have served. Recently I had the pleasure of meeting with Steven Lockwood to discuss their journey of remembrance and reconnection. Starting this month, three veterans, Michael Djoric, Jack Rainy and Locky, will set out on a 15,000-kilometre journey around Australia on humble Honda CT110—albeit modified—postie bikes. Along the way, they'll meet with veterans and their families to listen, learn and share their experiences of resilience and life beyond the uniform. These are the stories that deserve to be heard—stories that reveal the strength and the heart that carry our servicepeople through the hardest of times.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Last Post is for veterans and first responders, their families and every Australian who believes that service should be seen, heard and honoured. If you would like to donate to this cause, please visit the Australian Cultural Fund and search for 'The Last Post'. Every dollar counts when telling an important message like this. To follow them on their journey, you can find them on Instagram at the_last_post. Lastly, to Locky, Michael and Jack and their support crew: best of luck, stay safe, and I'll see you all for stepping-off day at 0700 hours on 18 October at the Freeling Coffee Co.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  In accordance with standing order 43, the time for members' statements has concluded.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2036</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>STATEMENTS ON INDULGENCE</title>
        <page.no>2036</page.no>
        <type>STATEMENTS ON INDULGENCE</type>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Middle East</title>
          <page.no>2036</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Middle East</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2036</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <a href="R36" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:00</span>):  The seventh of October 2023 was a day of pain and terror for Jewish people around the world. When our parliament first gathered in the aftermath, the shock of what Hamas terrorists had perpetrated was still raw and growing with each new and devastating detail. Their attack on a music festival that promoted 'friends, love and infinite freedom', an event attended by so many young people, underlined a core truth: Hamas stands in opposition to all humanity and all that we value as human beings.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Two years on, we remember those who were lost on that day, the largest loss of Jewish life on a single day since the Holocaust—over 1,200 lives taken without mercy. We remember Australian Galit Carbone, who was tragically among them. Galit's brother, Danny Majzner, joins us in the gallery today, and I will meet with him tomorrow. I say to him we hold you in our hearts. We also hold in our hearts all who are still being held hostage—those who remain alive and those who tragically had stolen from them not only their freedom but their life as well. We stand with their families and all those who wait. We stand with all those who endure loss. We stand with all those who endure hope—all who have had to hold this two-year vigil, which must feel like an eternity. Even now, as President Trump presents us with an opening to peace, we owe it to all of them to never forget what was done. Hamas sought to kill and to terrify. They planned a nightmare of scarcely comprehensible cruelty and made it a reality. The Australian government stands with Jewish people around the world, who feel the cold shadow of history's darkest chapter in any act of antisemitism. We will always stand against antisemitism, as should everyone. We must break this cycle of violence and build something better.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia has consistently been part of the international pressure for a ceasefire in Gaza, for the return of the hostages, for aid to flow and for a two-state solution. Australia welcomes President Trump's plan to bring peace to Gaza after almost two years of conflict and a devastating loss of civilian life—a plan that calls on Hamas to lay down its arms and to immediately release all remaining hostages. In our original motion here in 2023, carried with the support, bipartisanly, of both parties of government or potential government, we explicitly recognised that Hamas does not recognise the Palestinian people or their legitimate needs and aspirations. We have never wavered from that stance. That is the only path to enduring peace and security in the Middle East—a future without Hamas and a future that encompasses two states, the State of Israel and the State of Palestine, living side by side within internationally recognised borders and recognising each other's right to live in peace and security. That is the possibility of the future that is before us. It is our duty to do everything in our power to seize it.</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2036</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ley, Sussan Penelope MP</name>
              <name.id>00AMN</name.id>
              <electorate>Farrer</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="00AMN" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Farrer</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Leader of the Opposition</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:04</span>):  Two years ago, the world was changed as one of the most horrific terrorist attacks in modern history was perpetrated against the people of Israel. Women were raped; children were massacred; the frail were struck down and tortured. The violence unleashed by Hamas, backed by the Iranian regime, was deliberate and merciless. October 7 was a brutal reminder of the depths of human cruelty and of the evil that flourishes when hatred is armed.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">On this day two years ago, a clear blue October sky was punctured by rockets from Gaza as festivalgoers at the Nova music festival welcomed the sunrise. The celebration and unity of that moment would be torn apart as Hamas gunmen breached the border and cut off escape routes. Gunmen encircled the festival and fired, killing over 360 people. This nightmare played out across the region as Hamas targeted towns and homes. By sunset, 1,200 people had been murdered, and the attack resulted in the greatest loss of Jewish life since the Holocaust. Thirty-eight children were killed and 20 more orphaned. Over 250 people were taken from their homes, bound and gagged, thrown into the trays of utes or forced onto motorcycles and taken into Gaza. And, as the terrorists forced these hostages into tunnels, the terrorists were welcomed home with cheers, not condemnation.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">October 7 is the deadliest per capita terrorist attack in modern history, with over one person killed for every 10,000 Israelis—as if 50,000 Americans had died in the 9/11 attacks. This was an attack on Israel, but it was an attack on the world too. Almost 80 foreign nationals were killed, including Australian Galit Carbone, whose brother, Danny Majzner, a survivor of the Kibbutz Be'eri attack, is in the parliament today. It was a privilege to meet with him earlier. October 7 has rent the world apart. Sparking a new cycle of hate, division and violence was the objective of Hamas on October 7, both in the Middle East and across the world.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I wish that today, as we mark this dark milestone, I could reflect on the strength of Australia's response. I wish I could say that Australia did all it could to help release the hostages, end the violence and dismantle the terrorist group Hamas, yet to do so would be a lie. To our great shame, under the leadership of the Albanese Labor government, Australia has stood not with the people of Israel nor with the United States as they have sought to dismantle Hamas and establish the conditions for peace. To our great shame, the Albanese Labor government dragged its feet listing Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organisation.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Two years on, we stand apart from our friends in this time of their greatest need. Two years on, Australia has failed to stand firm in the face of terror. Australia has been lauded by Hamas and condemned by Israel and the United States. Australia could have stood firm, and to their great credit millions of Australians have, but those Australians and our Jewish community have been failed by their government. We have allowed hate to take root onto our streets and into our communities. As homes still smouldered in Israel, here in Australia protesters hijacked a vigil at the Sydney Opera House with cries of, 'Where are the Jews?' As Jewish Australians sought to find solace in their moment of grief, they were confronted by hate.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In the years since, the tide of antisemitism has risen across Australia. We see it in the armed guards that stand at Jewish childcare centres, and we have seen it in the Jewish businesses that have been boycotted and harassed and in the synagogues and businesses that have been firebombed. We saw it in the horrific antisemitic terror attack in recent days in Manchester too. We see it in the hateful graffiti sprayed in Fitzroy this morning. I make this clear to all Australians: Hamas is a listed terrorist organisation. Supporting Hamas is not free speech; it is a crime. Those responsible must face the full force of the law. All Victorians deserve to feel safe in their own community. The AFP and ASIO should support Victoria Police to track down those behind this disgraceful act and bring them to justice.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">To our great shame, there are people today in this country seeking to hold protests this week. We cannot and should not allow the Sydney Opera House to be used as a backdrop to hate. To those seeking to protest, heed this simple message: stop. Seeking to use October 7 to advance your political agenda is abhorrent and un-Australian.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Today cannot be only about words. As we mark October 7, we must recommit ourselves to taking action to stamp out antisemitism and affirm our support for the existence of Israel, the world's only Jewish state. The Albanese Labor government must get off the fence and enact the recommendations of their own antisemitism envoy, to stamp out antisemitism.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Today, as we mark this moment and reflect on the horror of October 7, there is hope too. There is hope for a path to peace, thanks to the efforts of the US administration. We must stand with the US and with Israel and give our support to this process. To Israel, to survivors, to the Jewish people everywhere: you are not alone. We stand with you in grief, in solidarity and in the unbreakable hope that life will triumph over terror. Am Yisrael Chai—the people of Israel live.</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>CONDOLENCES</title>
        <page.no>2037</page.no>
        <type>CONDOLENCES</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">CONDOLENCES</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Snow, Mr James (Jim) Henry</title>
          <page.no>2037</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Snow, Mr James (Jim) Henry</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2037</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">14:10</span>):  I inform the House of the death, on 18 September 2025, of James Henry Snow, a member of this House for the division of Eden-Monaro from 1983 to 1996. As a mark of respect for the memory of Jim Snow, I invite all present to rise in their places.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">Honourable members having stood in their places—</span>
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              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  I thank the House.</span>
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          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2037</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</title>
        <page.no>2037</page.no>
        <type>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</type>
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      <debate.text>
        <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:WX="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Telecommunications</title>
          <page.no>2037</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Telecommunications</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2037</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ley, Sussan Penelope MP</name>
              <name.id>00AMN</name.id>
              <electorate>Farrer</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="00AMN" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms LEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Farrer</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Leader of the Opposition</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:10</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Communications. One hundred and forty-seven days ago the minister was sworn into her portfolio, and yet she still self-identifies as a new minister. Being new is no excuse. Australians dialling triple 0 in an emergency cannot wait for you to learn. The minister isn't across her brief, and, by her own admission, people have died. Given the magnitude of the triple 0 crisis, does the minister regret her decision to prioritise a trip to New York over dealing with these urgent matters in Australia?</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2037</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
              <name.id>264121</name.id>
              <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="264121" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms WELLS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:11</span>):  I thank the Leader of the Opposition for her question. We can all agree that the outages that occurred last month by Optus are completely unacceptable. Optus's failings are under multiple investigations, including by ACMA, the independent regulator, and by state authorities. No-one should be under any illusion: this outage was the fault of Optus and Optus alone, and they will be held accountable.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">However, Optus's repeated failures have made one thing very clear. The triple 0 system needs reform, and that's exactly what our government is delivering. Today we've announced six key points that we are prioritising to make triple 0 the most resilient and the most safe system that it can be: (1) introducing a new bill to enshrine the Triple Zero Custodian in law, (2) introducing real-time reporting of outages to ACMA and emergency services, (3) forcing telcos to test triple 0 during upgrades and maintenance, (4) new requirements on providers to fully ensure triple 0 calls fall back to other networks, (5) mandatory improvement plans after triple 0 outages and (6) within six months of the commencement of the new laws, the custodian, through ACMA, will issue additional performance requirements to telcos to assure Australians of best practice.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">With respect to the end part of the opposition leader's question, our bipartisan, new laws to delay access to social media are one of the most important things that our nation has ever done, and they have the potential to change the world. That is why these laws were being discussed at the United Nations, and that is why I was at the United Nations. The member would know if they had met with the bereaved families who have been lobbying for these laws for many years—people like Robb Evans, who was carrying the ashes of his daughter, Liv, in an urn when he came to this place and begged us to act. They would know if they had spent time with Emma Mason, who lost her daughter, Tilly, to suicide. Emma is just an ordinary woman, but she has acted with incredible courage. Emma went to the United Nations to appeal to the world's leaders to take action as we are taking action, and I do not regret for one minute standing with Emma as she took that mission to the world. So, if we're going to talk apologies, the Leader of the Opposition should apologise for calling that work 'swanning around'. That is what she said. I call on the Leader of the Opposition to apologise to those organisations and to the parents— <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Papua New Guinea-Australia Mutual Defence Treaty</title>
          <page.no>2038</page.no>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2038</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Smith, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>312393</name.id>
              <electorate>Leichhardt</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="312393" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr MATT SMITH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Leichhardt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:15</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. What does yesterday's historic signing of the Pukpuk treaty between Papua New Guinea and Australia mean for our nation?</span>
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        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2038</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:15</span>):  I thank the member for Leichhardt for his question. He represents an electorate from which you can swim to Papua New Guinea, from Saibai Island. That is how close we are. Last year, when Prime Minister Marape and I walked the Kokoda Track for Anzac Day, we reflected on our nations' shared bond. At the 50th anniversary of PNG independence last month, we reflected on our shared history. And yesterday, at the signing of the Pukpuk treaty, we reflected on our shared future. Our bond, our history and our future—that is what this treaty is about: an alliance between two equal partners, between two old friends, furthering the interests of our nations and of our peoples and finding our security in the Pacific from within the Pacific family, and, for Australia, family means Papua New Guinea.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is indeed a historic moment. The Pukpuk treaty is only our third alliance, and it's our first in over seven decades. Our nearest neighbour is now our newest ally. It is an alliance born of respect, an alliance to meet common dangers, to act in our mutual interests and to safeguard each other's sovereignty—two houses with one fence, as Prime Minister Marape has said. We are two neighbours, partners, mates and now allies. I cannot comprehend the possibility of anything as significant as this for the defence of Australia as well as the sovereignty and defence of Papua New Guinea.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Just over 50 years ago, PNG, during our darkest hour—during World War II and through that period—was considered to be part of Australian territory. This alliance ups this relationship to a new level following the request of Papua New Guinea, through Prime Minister Marape, and accepted by my government, and I am sure it will be welcomed by both of our peoples.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Telecommunications</title>
          <page.no>2038</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Telecommunications</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2038</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ley, Sussan Penelope MP</name>
              <name.id>00AMN</name.id>
              <electorate>Farrer</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="00AMN" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms LEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Farrer</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Leader of the Opposition</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:18</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Communications. After the catastrophic triple 0 outage last month, the minister told a press conference before her trip to New York that there had been deaths. Exactly how many deaths is the minister aware of? And has the minister personally phoned each family to apologise for the Albanese Labor government's inaction?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2038</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
              <name.id>264121</name.id>
              <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <a href="264121" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms WELLS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:18</span>):  I thank the Leader of the Opposition for her question. I trust that she was watching when the Optus CEO announced news that there had been, as far as he was aware, three deaths. That was late Friday afternoon. The following day, on Saturday afternoon, Premier Roger Cook said that they had found, within the ambulance services of WA, a fourth death that may be connected to the catastrophic Optus outages. Let us agree here: that is not good enough; what happened in September was not good enough. Legislating a triple 0 custodian will drive real change, but, for us here, there is no silver bullet when it comes to corporate failures.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">So have I spoken with the families? I have spoken with Optus, the company who has failed Australians and these families here. The CEO of Optus has apologised to the families for the failures of Optus and the catastrophic impact that has had on their families, as has the CEO of Singtel, the parent company of Optus. I think we can all agree it is right and appropriate for these companies to apologise because they are the cause of these catastrophic failures. They have accepted responsibility for this.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="00AMN" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Ley:</span>
                  </a>  There was nothing the government could have done?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! The Leader of the Opposition has asked her question.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="264121" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms WELLS:</span>
                  </a>  Frankly, I am disappointed that the Leader of the Opposition seeks to let Optus off the hook and tries to say that other people should apologise for the failures of a private company, Optus. This outage and the many failings of Optus are the fault of Optus alone. I think the political actions, the politicising of a catastrophe here, are letting Optus off the hook and you should be ashamed of yourself. This is a tragic circumstance. There are families who have lost the ones they love, and that hardens my resolve. Optus is accountable, and as the minister I will hold them to account. The independent regulator has an investigation on foot. We will await her recommendations. Optus, I promise you, will face serious consequences for what they have done.</span>
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          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2039</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Ley, Sussan Penelope MP</name>
                <name.id>00AMN</name.id>
                <electorate>Farrer</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2039</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2039</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
                <name.id>264121</name.id>
                <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
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            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Papua New Guinea-Australia Mutual Defence Treaty</title>
          <page.no>2039</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Papua New Guinea-Australia Mutual Defence Treaty</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2039</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Gosling, Luke MP</name>
              <name.id>245392</name.id>
              <electorate>Solomon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="245392" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr GOSLING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Solomon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:21</span>):  My question is to the Deputy Prime Minister. What is the importance of the defence treaty between Australia and Papua New Guinea, and what impact will this have on our Australian Defence Force?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2039</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Marles, Richard Donald MP</name>
              <name.id>HWQ</name.id>
              <electorate>Corio</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWQ" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr MARLES</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Corio</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defence</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:21</span>):  I thank the member for his question and acknowledge his service. Yesterday, our prime minister and James Marape, the Prime Minister of Papua New Guinea, signed the Pukpuk treaty, article 4 of which contains a mutual defence obligation, giving it the character of an alliance, the first alliance into which our country has entered since 1 September 1951, when Australia signed the ANZUS treaty, 74 years ago. This means that PNG is now our third ally, along with the United States and with New Zealand. This is deeply historic, but it's also perfectly natural. It is unthinkable that any Australian government today or in the future would regard an attack on Papua New Guinea as somehow not engaging our national interest. Indeed, on the one occasion when this has occurred in our past, we were most definitely there. The Kokoda Track, during the Second World War, is deeply etched into our military history. It, along with the battles of Milne Bay, Gona, Buna and so many other places, saw more than 6½ thousand Australian personnel make the ultimate sacrifice in the defence of that territory. At each and every moment, Papua New Guineans stood shoulder to shoulder with Australian soldiers, emblematic of the relationship between our two peoples then and our two countries today.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">From PNG's point of view, this represents an unambiguous choice to see Australia as its natural security partner—a choice that we do not take for granted. This alliance will now further the process of the integration between our two defence forces, which will include the recruitment of Papua New Guineans directly into the ADF, the first step of which will see PNG permanent residents in Australia able to join our Defence Force from 1 January next year. This agreement has been negotiated in record time, underpinned by a shared and significant ambition. I really want to thank James Marape; the Deputy Prime Minister, John Rosso; and my counterpart, the defence minister, Billy Joseph; along with our prime minister; our Foreign minister; our minister for Pacific island affairs; and the countless officials in both Port Moresby and Canberra who have brought this treaty to fruition. The result is an alliance which will see both Papua New Guinea and Australia be fundamentally safer.</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</title>
        <page.no>2039</page.no>
        <type>DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</type>
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          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</span>
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          <title>Zaghawa Union in Australia, Herbert, Rt Hon. Nicholas Le Quesne</title>
          <page.no>2039</page.no>
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              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Zaghawa Union in Australia</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Herbert, Rt Hon. Nicholas Le Quesne</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2039</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">14:24</span>):  I'm pleased to inform the House that present in the gallery today are representatives and leaders of the Zaghawa Union in Australia, as guests of the Minister for Climate Change and Energy, and also the Rt Hon. Lord Herbert of South Downs, member of the House of Lords of the United Kingdom. Welcome to you all.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralInterjecting">Honourable members:</span>  Hear, hear!</span>
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    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</title>
        <page.no>2039</page.no>
        <type>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Health Care</title>
          <page.no>2039</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Health Care</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2039</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Gee, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>261393</name.id>
              <electorate>Calare</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="261393" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr GEE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Calare</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:24</span>):  My question is to the health minister. The rural doctor shortage crisis is a disgrace and a shameful indictment. The Charles Sturt University School of Rural Medicine in the central west of New South Wales is training doctors in the bush for practice in the bush but for half a decade has been restricted by the government to only 37 Commonwealth supported student places each year. This isn't good enough. When will your government deliver more medical student places to Charles Sturt University so it can train more country doctors that are so desperately needed? </span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2040</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Butler, Mark Christopher MP</name>
              <name.id>HWK</name.id>
              <electorate>Hindmarsh</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWK" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr BUTLER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hindmarsh</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Disability and the National Disability Insurance Scheme, Minister for </span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Health and Ageing and Deputy Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:25</span>):  I thank the member for Calare for his question and for his persistent advocacy around improving healthcare services not just in his community but in rural Australia more broadly. I'll come to the question of CSPs because I think he's aware that there is a tender open right now, but can I refer to the college of GPs <span style="font-style:italic;">General practice: health of the nation 2025</span> report released this morning. It is an annual report that the college has delivered for nine years now, I think—since the former government got rid of the BEACH dataset that used to track activity in general practices. It's an important contribution. One of the highlights of this morning's report is that for the first time in many years the number of GPs, in a full-time-equivalent sense, has started to increase again. That is a good thing for the country. It reflects determined work to make general practice more attractive for junior doctors as they consider their future career after finishing medical school. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The member does highlight the fact that there has been limited growth in medical school training places for many, many years now—often because of pretty determined opposition from the medical community itself, including the AMA over the years. Over the last several years this government has added a number of new medical schools, or is in the process of adding new medical schools, particularly outside of our major cities—James Cook University in Far North Queensland; Darwin, for the first time, will have its own medical school; and a number of other places have been added over the last several years as well. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There are currently, I think, 100 Commonwealth supported places for medical schools open for tender. Charles Sturt University and other universities are able to apply for that. Obviously it is a competitive process, and that will be conducted at arm's length from me and from the education minister. We have asked in the tender, as I understand it, for universities to indicate a particular focus on general practice because, although we want to see doctors more broadly come into the system, we are prioritising an increase in general practice above all things else because we know that a well-functioning general practice scheme is utterly central to a well-functioning healthcare system. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I welcome the question. Obviously I can't comment on the tender which is open right now. But more doctors, more bulk-billing, more urgent care and even cheaper medicines are the four key pillars of our strengthening Medicare agenda. </span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Papua New Guinea-Australia Mutual Defence Treaty</title>
          <page.no>2040</page.no>
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          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Papua New Guinea-Australia Mutual Defence Treaty</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2040</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Miller-Frost, Louise MP</name>
              <name.id>296272</name.id>
              <electorate>Boothby</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="296272" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms MILLER-FROST</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Boothby</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:28</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Pacific Island Affairs. How will the historic agreement between Australia and Papua New Guinea contribute to building a peaceful, stable and prosperous region? </span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2040</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Conroy, Pat MP</name>
              <name.id>249127</name.id>
              <electorate>Shortland</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249127" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr CONROY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Shortland</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Pacific Island Affairs and Minister for Defence Industry</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:28</span>):  I thank the member for her question and strong interest in foreign policy. Last month, the Prime Minister, the Deputy Prime Minister and I travelled to Papua New Guinea to commemorate the 50th anniversary of PNG's independence. We celebrated our shared history and values and our enduring bonds. Our relationship with PNG is special. We've achieved so much together in recent years, from our bilateral security agreement to the PNG national rugby league team. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Yesterday, the two prime ministers signed the Pukpuk treaty, establishing Australia's third ever alliance, the first in 74 years, and PNG's first ever. As the Prime Minister said, four kilometres separates our two nations. As Prime Minister Marape said in this very chamber, we are joined at the hip. We shed blood together on the Kokoda Track and are buried together at the Bomana War Cemetery, including Pata Topipin from the Papuan Infantry Battalion, who was only 16 years of age when he made the ultimate sacrifice to preserve our freedom. So, when PNG proposed this alliance, Australia was honoured to agree. As allies, in the event of an armed attack on either of our countries, we will both act to meet the danger. It is an agreement founded on friendship between our two peoples. As the PM said, it shapes the future of our relationship as neighbours, equals, family and now allies.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The government is working hard to respond to Pacific priorities and ensure that we are the partner of choice. We turn up, listen and act on the priorities of the Pacific family. The Prime Minister walked the Kokoda Track with PM Marape, the first two leaders of their nations to do so. PM Albanese was also the first foreign leader to address the PNG parliament, and PM Marape was the first Pacific leader to address ours. Senior ministers from our government are regular visitors to the Pacific, and we're using every tool of statecraft, from defence and policing cooperation to trade, development assistance, temporary labour schemes, permanent migration and sport, to deepen our relationships.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Turning up, listening and acting—that's what we do, because our prosperity and stability are dependent upon the prosperity and stability of the Pacific. We have signed landmark treaties with Tuvalu and Nauru. The Nauru-Australia Treaty responds to their top concerns of economic resilience and banking services. Importantly, we're acting on climate change, the Pacific's top priority, and our landmark Falepili union does that. We are negotiating with Fiji and Vanuatu as well. Our approach of listening, respect and action has delivered genuine and enduring partnerships. Today, Australians and Papua New Guineans are safer due to this new alliance.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Telecommunications</title>
          <page.no>2041</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Telecommunications</span>
            </p>
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        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2041</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McIntosh, Melissa MP</name>
              <name.id>281513</name.id>
              <electorate>Lindsay</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281513" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mrs McINTOSH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lindsay</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:31</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Communications. It has been 565 days since the Bean review made 18 critical recommendations to government to fix the triple 0 network after the first Optus outage. Eighteen months on, with a triple 0 crisis and, sadly, deaths, why hasn't the government implemented all the recommendations, and will the minister apologise for the government's delay in acting on these vital recommendations?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2041</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
              <name.id>264121</name.id>
              <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="264121" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms WELLS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:32</span>):  I thank the shadow minister for communications for her questions, and I invite her to read the Bean review. It has 18 recommendations, of which 13 are now complete and five are still in implementation. Of those five, recommendations 3 and 4 pertain to new industry codes in the testing of both devices and networks, recommendation 14 is around temporary outage roaming during natural disasters and recommendation 15 is a mutual assistance memorandum of understanding to require mutual assistance between telcos during outages. I make these points because the common thread is that each of those four recommendations is either being led by or depends on industry.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">At my meeting with the chief executives of the three telcos, who I summonsed to Canberra earlier today ahead of introducing the triple 0 custodian legislation, I urged industry to go faster on those remaining four recommendations that they have carriage of, and I'm pleased to update the House that they agreed to do so. One of the good things about this new law is it creates new levers for the custodian to press industry when they are recalcitrant to get on with improvement. That is an improvement that would be delivered by the passage of the legislation. That is why I was very disturbed to hear on Sky News, just before question time and after the introduction of the legislation, which the shadow minister for communications was in the House to listen to, that she dithered and equivocated on whether the opposition would support the triple 0 custodian bill. This is the shadow minister who is on record criticising me for not going faster. When presented with the opportunity to support the bill, she dithered and equivocated over whether the opposition would support it.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our role here is to build confidence in the triple 0 system. I have been working as fast as I can to bring this legislation to this place. The question in the legislation is very simple, and it should not be difficult for the opposition to answer. The question is: do you support a stronger custodian for triple 0? If the answer is yes and if you want to be useful, stop politicising this crisis and support the bill.</span>
              </p>
              <a href="218019" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Hogan interjecting</span>—</span>
                </p>
              </a>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! The member for Page is now warned. I'll make a note of that. There's far too much noise.</span>
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          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2041</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Mr Hogan interjecting—</name>
                <name.id />
                <electorate />
                <party />
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
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          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2041</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
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        </answer>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>2041</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Housing</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2041</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Smith, David MP</name>
              <name.id>276714</name.id>
              <electorate>Bean</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="276714" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr DAVID SMITH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bean</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:34</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Housing, Minister for Homelessness and Minister for Cities. How is the Albanese Labor government making it easier for first home buyers to buy their first home? What has been the response?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2041</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">O'Neil, Clare Ellen MP</name>
              <name.id>140590</name.id>
              <electorate>Hotham</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                  <a href="140590" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms O'NEIL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hotham</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Housing, Minister for Homelessness and Minister for Cities</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:35</span>):  I really want to thank the member for Bean for his question. He's a really big advocate for us building more homes around the country and he often talks to me about the really significant housing challenges that are facing his Canberra community. He's got constituents that are working hard. They're doing everything right, yet still they cannot afford to buy a home in our great country.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Now, it is too hard to build a home in our country and it is too hard to buy a home in our country. That is because we have a housing system that's been in desperate need of reform for 40 years. Our government is turning that moment of national challenge into a moment of national change. Just in the last two weeks, you've seen our government deliver on a couple of really important—</span>
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              <a href="218019" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Hogan interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  No. The minister will pause. The member for Page, about a minute and a half ago, was warned. He has ignored that and has interjected, so he will leave the chamber under 94(a).</span>
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                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">The member for Page then left the chamber.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  I just said there was far too much noise, so there are consequences for actions. If someone is warned and they interject, they go straightaway. The minister in continuation.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="140590" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms O'NEIL:</span>
                  </a>  You would have seen about a week ago that the Prime Minister and I were together implementing a really important change for the young people of this country. As of 1 October, every single first home buyer around this country will be eligible to get into the housing market with just a five per cent deposit and our government's support. There are no income limits, there are no limits on places and, for the first time, we've got house price caps that actually reflect the cost of housing where people want to live.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In Sydney today, we see a young couple that will save, on average, around 11 years to get into the property market. The change that we are making today not only saves them tens of thousands of dollars in lenders mortgage insurance; it saves them hundreds of thousands of dollars in rent that they won't have to pay and takes that 11-year timeframe back to two or three for people around the country. This is really meaningful support for a generation of people in this country who need and deserve our help and need it right now.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Of course, the solution to our national housing challenge is to build more homes, and that's why the majority of Labor's visionary $43 billion investment is in doing just that—and we're making really good progress. We've got housing starts in our country up 17 per cent on where they were a year ago. Our government has talked about clearing the backlog of housing applications that are under federal environmental approvals, and I can let the House know that we are now processing new housing environmental approvals at about three times the rate that we were a year ago. This builds on really important work that we did in our first term. Remember: 180,000 Australians have got into their first home while we've been in government. A million households have been supported with an almost 50 per cent increase to Commonwealth rent assistance. More than half a million homes have been built since we came to office, and we've got 25,000 social and affordable homes in planning or construction. A quick refresher: they built 373 in almost a decade in office.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We're building more homes, we're getting renters a better deal and, yes, we are getting more Australians into homeownership.</span>
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                <page.no>2041</page.no>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2041</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <page.no>2041</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2041</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">O'Neil, Clare Ellen MP</name>
                <name.id>140590</name.id>
                <electorate>Hotham</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Telecommunications</title>
          <page.no>2042</page.no>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2042</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McIntosh, Melissa MP</name>
              <name.id>281513</name.id>
              <electorate>Lindsay</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="281513" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mrs McINTOSH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lindsay</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:38</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Communications. Minister, I note that just today you are urging Optus to go faster, three weeks after the devastating outage where lives were lost. Minister, why did people have to die before you instructed your department to accelerate the implementation of triple 0 guardian legislation as recommended by an independent review to your government over 18 months ago?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2042</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
              <name.id>264121</name.id>
              <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="264121" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms WELLS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:39</span>):  I thank the shadow minister for her question. The only thing that could have stopped Optus from having this outage was Optus themselves. They are responsible for their failure and they will be held to account for their failure. However, the triple 0 custodian would not exist at all were it not for our government. We commissioned the Bean review. We accepted all of its recommendations, including the work to design and implement the custodian. It is a complete fabrication to say that the government has sat on this. In March 2024, the Bean review recommended a triple 0 custodian and that further work be done on the specific nature of the custodian. It did not recommend a particular model. If you read the Bean review—which, again, I encourage—it says this may be done in a number of ways. So in April 2024 the government tasked the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman to lead a steering committee of industry, government and consumer representatives to do that work. They met six times between May and October 2024, providing their final report to the department on 28 November 2024. The department considered all of the recommendations on all of the issues identified by that committee, which informed its recommendations to the then minister in March 2025 that the custodian should operate within the department and be supported by new legislative powers. Upon accepting the department's recommendation, that custodian commenced immediately and work began on the legislation that we are introducing now. So the Albanese government has and will always work to protect Australians, and we will hold those who fail to deliver on their obligations to full account.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>2042</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Economy</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2042</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Repacholi, Dan MP</name>
              <name.id>298840</name.id>
              <electorate>Hunter</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298840" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr REPACHOLI</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hunter</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:41</span>):  My question is to the Treasurer. What does the final budget outcome for the last financial year show about the progress the Albanese Labor government has made on the budget over the three years after a decade of budget mismanagement?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2042</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chalmers, Jim MP</name>
              <name.id>37998</name.id>
              <electorate>Rankin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="37998" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Dr CHALMERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Rankin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Treasurer</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:41</span>):  I knew that the mighty Broncos were a chance on Sunday when the member for Hunter confidently tipped the Melbourne Storm! I thank him for that, and I thank him for the question. Responsible economic management is a defining feature of this Labor government. You can see that in the final budget outcome, which was released just last week. In dollar terms, our government has presided over the biggest ever positive improvement in the budget in a single parliamentary term. In just three years we've overseen a $209 billion improvement in the budget bottom line. We turned two very big Liberal deficits into two substantial Labor surpluses in our first two years and, in our third year, we substantially reduced the deficit as well so that it's now a fifth of what we inherited from those opposite and around a third of what we forecast before the election. As a consequence of that, debt is now $188 billion lower in the year just finished than what we inherited from those opposite. That means we'll be paying something like $60 billion less interest over the course of the next decade or so.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We have achieved this because we have found savings, shown restraint, banked provisions to revenue, kept unemployment low and got real wages growing again in our economy. As a result of our approach and our policies, international ratings agency Standard and Poor's just last week reaffirmed Australia's AAA credit rating.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor's responsible economic management is in stark contrast to the mess that we inherited from those opposite. They promised to deliver a surplus every single year and only delivered nine straight deficits. They doubled the debt before COVID. They had deficits, they had debt ratcheting up and they were on track to exceed a $1 trillion in debt not too long after the 2022 election. They spent most of the revenue upgrade. They had no savings in their last budget. I think most damningly they took to the last election a policy of higher taxes, lower wages, bigger deficits and more debt. We have spent three years cleaning up the mess that we inherited from them.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This government is guided by the national economic interest as we go about making the budget more sustainable. Those opposite are guided by the internal politics of the Liberal Party. Whoever prevails in that unedifying spat between the far right and the even farther right on that side of the House, it's already clear: they haven't changed a bit and they haven't learnt a thing. If anything, they are more divisive and more divided than ever and they still have no economic credibility whatsoever. Their record in government, and now their record in opposition, makes that clear.</span>
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        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Telecommunications</title>
          <page.no>2043</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Telecommunications</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2043</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Penfold, Alison MP</name>
              <name.id>248895</name.id>
              <electorate>Lyne</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248895" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms PENFOLD</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lyne</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:44</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Communications. How many triple 0 outages have occurred since you became the minister responsible for communications?</span>
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        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2043</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
              <name.id>264121</name.id>
              <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="264121" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms WELLS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:44</span>):  I thank the member for her question. I also encourage her to read the Bean review. If you did, you would read the disturbing fact that, until our government acted, Australian telcos were not legally required to report outages—not required at all. That's what happened under your side of the fence. We have already put in place changes which will be further strengthened on 1 November when the new ACMA determination, commissioned by my predecessor, takes effect. It'll mean telcos must immediately share information relating to outages with relevant emergency service organisations such as police, fire and ambulance. </span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Climate Change</title>
          <page.no>2043</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Climate Change</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2043</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Soon, Zhi MP</name>
              <name.id>298618</name.id>
              <electorate>Banks</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  <a href="298618" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr SOON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Banks</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:45</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Climate Change and Energy. How is the Albanese Labor government acting on climate change? What other policy proposals on climate and energy are being investigated? </span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2043</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Bowen, Chris MP</name>
              <name.id>DZS</name.id>
              <electorate>McMahon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DZS" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr BOWEN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McMahon</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Climate Change and Energy</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:46</span>):  I thank my honourable friend for the question. Indeed, it's been a while since parliament has sat, and there's been a lot of action by the government and by Australian households when it comes to climate change and energy—in particular in relation to households. It's been a while since I've been able to update the House, and I'm pleased to tell the House that now 78,124 Australian households have put in a cheaper home battery under the Albanese government's policy. This is part of a trend. I'm also pleased to inform the House of recent figures which show that last month was the first month in Australian history when more energy in the main grid came from renewables than coal. We see that as a good step forward; those opposite are probably upset about it. Of course, this is all encouraging and building momentum for the emissions reductions target of 62 to 70 per cent which this government laid out during the parliamentary break. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is the government getting on with it and the Australian people getting on with it, because that's what the Australian people told us to do on 3 May. The Australian people told us on 3 May to keep going with plans for cheaper renewable energy. Some would think that maybe they also sent a message to those opposite, but those opposite seemed to get the message to keep going as well. I'm asked what policies are under investigation. The opposition went to the last election with a nuclear policy, which the Australian people did cast judgement on. That might come as a surprise to the member for New England! It might come as a surprise that it didn't go well, considering the quality of the campaign. The member for Fairfax travelled the world talking about nuclear energy. He put videos out about that. My personal favourite was 'What can we learn from Hiroshima?' when it came to him selling nuclear energy. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The current shadow minister continues in the same vein. He's spent the last couple of weeks in the United States—good on him, fair enough. He put up an eight-minute video on YouTube about his trip. I watched it so that you don't have to. You're welcome! Having watched that video, we can tell some things. He did not visit any small modular reactors, advanced modular reactors or micro reactors, perhaps due to the small technical detail that none exist—there were none to see—but he did go to the Idaho National Laboratory. What his video didn't tell us is that that was the site for the NuScale small modular reactor, which was cancelled last year because it was so expensive and because no-one would buy the power from it because the power was so expensive. That was the small modular reactor that the member for Fairfax had as the image on his website, Time to Talk Nuclear. There is no nuclear renaissance; there is just a renaissance of silly ideas from the opposition. </span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Telecommunications</title>
          <page.no>2044</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Telecommunications</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2044</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Haines, Helen MP</name>
              <name.id>282335</name.id>
              <electorate>Indi</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="282335" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Dr HAINES</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Indi</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:49</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Communications. Multiple inquiries into triple 0 outages recommend temporary disaster roaming during national disasters and outages. This would keep Australians connected during emergencies no matter who their providers are. Minister, the bushfire season is fast approaching. In your previous answer you said that telcos have agreed to go faster on this outstanding reform from the Bean review. Will you give the telcos a deadline to implement disaster roaming?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2044</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
              <name.id>264121</name.id>
              <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="264121" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms WELLS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:49</span>):  I thank the member for Indi for her question, and I acknowledge her ongoing interest in and passion for improving regional telecommunications. The government accepted, absolutely, and agreed in principle with recommendation 14 of the Bean review, which recommended that work currently being undertaken on roaming during natural disasters should be followed by work on temporary roaming during outages caused by other events, though it acknowledged the industry had identified some technical feasibility issues. I'm advised that the industry is developing a temporary disaster roaming capability. It's drafting a memorandum of understanding to support this development. And let me be clear: it is my expectation that industry will make that work. Subject to the outcomes of that work, my department will examine the extent to which roaming could be available during other outage events, as recommended in the Bean review. I would also highlight the government's commitment to the Universal Outdoor Mobile Obligation, which will enable, for the first time, baseline outdoor mobile connectivity across Australia, and this will provide another level of redundancy during outages of all kinds.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">With respect to the second half of your question, I will say that was absolutely the subject of much of the discussion by the Minister for Emergency Management and me when we met with the three CEOs of the telcos in my office earlier today. We also asked NEMA to attend, and NEMA and the Minister for Emergency Management spoke to the particular perils of the natural disaster season and the particular matters that were outstanding. We all committed to get back together again and to do a simulation drill in a couple of weeks to stress-test where this system is not currently working for people, particularly in places like regional Australia. You would know, of course, that the Minister for Emergency Management is always thinking, front of mind, about regional Australians, and I reassure you that we are sincere in that work and that work will continue.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </answer>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Trade with the United Arab Emirates</title>
          <page.no>2044</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Trade with the United Arab Emirates</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2044</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Swanson, Meryl Jane MP</name>
              <name.id>264170</name.id>
              <electorate>Paterson</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="264170" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms SWANSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Paterson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:51</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry. How will the free trade agreement with the United Arab Emirates expand opportunities for our farmers and producers? How do regional communities benefit from this improvement to Australia's standing and our trade relationships?</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2044</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Collins, Julie Maree MP</name>
              <name.id>HWM</name.id>
              <electorate>Franklin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWM" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms COLLINS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Franklin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:52</span>):  I want to thank the member for Paterson for her ongoing interest in agriculture and producers in her local electorate. She has also, of course, been chair of the primary industries committee of the House and has done some excellent work in regard to a food security strategy.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Since coming to government, we have worked very hard to diversify our trade and unlock opportunities for our farmers and our producers, because we know that better market access is good for our farmers but it's also great for our regional communities and it's good for regional jobs, something our farmers and producers, particularly in the member for Paterson's electorate, will know well. We've restored Australia's place in the world. In a carefully considered way, we've gone about this, and in just the last week, during the Prime Minister's visit to the United Arab Emirates, we brought Australia's new free trade agreement with the UAE into force.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australia-UAE Comprehensive Economic Partnership eliminates tariffs on more than 99 of Australia's agricultural exports. Most tariffs on agricultural products sent to the UAE were eliminated immediately, including on red meat, on grains, on oilseeds and on dairy, something that we know farmers and regional communities will benefit from. Tariffs on a limited number of goods, such as poultry, bread and pastry, will be phased out over the next three to five years.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This deal delivers real and tangible benefits for Australian farmers and producers and gives them unprecedented access and preferential treatment when they do business with the UAE. It will slash around $50 million a year in tariffs based on current volumes for Australian agriculture and food exports, keeping more money in our regional economies and supporting more regional jobs. Importantly, it allows for growth into the UAE for our farmers. With our agriculture, fisheries and forestry exports to the UAE currently valued at $1.7 billion in the last financial year—including from our oilseeds, our red meat, our grains and our dairy exports—the UAE is now our 12th-largest agricultural export market, and this is a deal that will support more growth opportunities, as I've said, for our farmers and our producers.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Importantly, this is our first free trade agreement with the Middle East. This is work that took a Labor government to deliver, in the careful, considered way we go about our business, because we know that that's what you achieve when you work hard on your trading relationships, and we know the benefits of this for our farmers and our regional communities. We know, of course, that those opposite neglected some important trading partners and relationships, and we have worked hard, night and day, to improve and get the re-entry of $20 billion worth of trade with our largest trading partner. I want to be clear: we have delivered 231 market access achievements and 29 new markets. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Telecommunications</title>
          <page.no>2045</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Telecommunications</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2045</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Webster, Anne MP</name>
              <name.id>281688</name.id>
              <electorate>Mallee</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281688" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Dr WEBSTER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mallee</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:55</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Communications. Can the minister confirm to the House that neither she nor her office were notified of the catastrophic triple 0 outage, which occurred on 18 September, before the afternoon of 19 September?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2045</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
              <name.id>264121</name.id>
              <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="264121" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms WELLS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:55</span>):  Yes; I can confirm we were not notified of the catastrophic outage until late afternoon on Friday 19 September.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Medicare</title>
          <page.no>2045</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Medicare</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2045</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Briskey, Jo MP</name>
              <name.id>263427</name.id>
              <electorate>Maribyrnong</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="263427" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms BRISKEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Maribyrnong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:55</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Health and Ageing. How is the Albanese Labor government strengthening Medicare, after a decade of cuts and neglect, to make it easier for Australians to access bulk-billed GP visits?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2045</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Butler, Mark Christopher MP</name>
              <name.id>HWK</name.id>
              <electorate>Hindmarsh</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWK" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr BUTLER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hindmarsh</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Disability and the National Disability Insurance Scheme, Minister for Health and Ageing and Deputy Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:56</span>):  I thank the member for Maribyrnong for her question. She is, as you know, Speaker, a qualified psychologist and adds her name to the long list of health professionals on this side of the House. We have nurses, we have doctors, we have psychologists, we have the first female pharmacist ever elected to the parliament—just to name a few—and every single one of them, every single member on this side of the House, campaigned hard at the last election on our promise to strengthen Medicare and to deliver more doctors, more bulk-billing, more urgent care clinics and even cheaper medicines. And we're delivering all of those promises.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Today's annual <span style="font-style:italic;">Health of the nation</span> report, as I said to the member for Calare in response to his question, confirms that, for the first time in many years, not only has the headcount of GPs increased in this country but the more important measure of full-time-equivalent GPs has increased in the last 12 months for the first time in years. And more are coming. Last year was a record year for the number of junior doctors training as GPs. This year broke that record, and I'm confident that next year will see a record again.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">To the member's question, we're also delivering on our promise around bulk-billing. Since we tripled the bulk-billing incentive for concession card holders and children a little less than two years ago, there have been almost 1.9 million additional free visits to the GP in the member's state of Victoria alone. The bulk-billing rate for those 11 million Australians is now comfortably over 90 per cent again. But we know that it's too low for those Australians who don't have a concession card. That's why, in around three weeks time, for the first time ever, we will extend bulk-billing support to every single Australian patient and we'll pay a bonus incentive to those general practices that agree to bulk-bill every single one of their patients.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Last week, the member and I visited the Moonee Ponds Super Clinic, one of five clinics operated by the Yarra Medical Group. Right now they're mixed billing practices; they charge a gap to all of their patients who don't have a concession card. But they told the member for Maribyrnong and me last week that from 1 November they will bulk-bill at all five clinics every single patient that comes through their door. They worked out it's not just better for their patients; it also works out better for their practice and for their individual doctors when they look at the record investment we're making. We're delivering more doctors, more bulk-billing, more urgent care clinics and even cheaper medicines. That's what a government focused on delivery does.</span>
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        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>2045</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Economy</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2045</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Katter, Bob MP</name>
              <name.id>HX4</name.id>
              <electorate>Kennedy</electorate>
              <party>KAP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HX4" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr KATTER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kennedy</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:59</span>):  Treasurer, we praised the Prime Minister for completion of the Great Inland Way. Now, disaster—the closure of copper by Glencore and phosphate by Dyno Nobel. Simultaneously, the government put bananas on the scaffold, accepting an import application from the Philippines—rife with disease and exploited wage earners. The expiration of the $6 a unit gas agreement precipitated doomsday for copper and phosphate. Our competitors pay $6; Australia pays $16.60. Treasurer, without a reserve resource policy, won't your government preside over the obliteration of Australia's fourth-biggest industrial centre, Mount Isa, and a goodbye to bananas?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2046</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chalmers, Jim MP</name>
              <name.id>37998</name.id>
              <electorate>Rankin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="37998" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Dr CHALMERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Rankin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Treasurer</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:59</span>):  I'll try to touch on all of at least the really important issues in the question from the member for Kennedy. First of all, on bananas, I want to assure him that the government will not compromise on biosecurity when it comes to banana imports. On 16 September the department advised that it is undertaking a science and evidence based assessment of a request from the Philippines. There's no predetermined outcome of that process. It's important to note that this notification doesn't signal that trade will commence or is imminent. As the Prime Minister, the minister for agriculture and other senior members of the government have said, we won't compromise on biosecurity and our enviable biosecurity status is not up for negotiation.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The second one was about our investment as a government in regional infrastructure, particularly in the member's part of the world in Queensland. We're very proud of that investment. Thank you for acknowledging it. Thirdly, when it comes to the gas market, I know that the resources minister and the energy minister are working very closely with the cabinet on various processes we have underway when it comes to the future of gas policy in our country.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I was also asked about the very concerning developments in North Queensland and north-west Queensland when it comes to the smelters. I want to acknowledge from the outset that the workers, their families, the broader community and the local economy of that part of our country are front of mind. It is about 600 jobs at Mount Isa and Townsville. It is about 500 more at Dyno Nobel's Phosphate Hill that would go if the smelter closes. But it's bigger than that. It's about the broader industrial capabilities of our country and that really important region, as the Prime Minister said when he was asked about this recently.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">That's why Minister Ayres has been doing a heap of work with the Queensland government and Glencore to try to find a solution here. I thank particularly Minister Ayres for the way he's gone about this, working closely with the Queensland government. Good progress has been made. More will be said about that before long by Minister Ayres, and I don't intend to pre-empt that.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The government's approach is to do what we responsibly can to ensure that Australia will be an export powerhouse for decades to come. The Mount Isa copper smelter is a nationally significant asset and a significant facility for regional Queensland's industrial capability, and that has driven our efforts throughout this process. It's also what drives our Future Made in Australia agenda, making sure that our workers, businesses and regions are beneficiaries of all this churn and change that we're seeing in the world. That's why we're doing whatever we responsibly can to get a good outcome for the workers, families, communities and businesses the member for Kennedy represents, and we hope to have more to say about that soon.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Workplace Relations</title>
          <page.no>2046</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Workplace Relations</span>
            </p>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2046</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Witty, Sarah MP</name>
              <name.id>316660</name.id>
              <electorate>Melbourne</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316660" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms WITTY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Melbourne</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:03</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations. How is the Albanese Labor government delivering for Australian workers and easing cost-of-living pressures?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2046</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Rishworth, Amanda Louise MP</name>
              <name.id>HWA</name.id>
              <electorate>Kingston</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWA" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms RISHWORTH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kingston</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:03</span>):  I'd like to thank the member for Melbourne for her question and her fierce advocacy for Australian workers. Since the Albanese Labor government came to office we have been working to get a better deal for Australian workers and to get wages moving. Of course, this was off the back of 10 long years of low wages as a deliberate design feature of the coalition's economic architecture. Our government has improved our workplace laws to deliver better wages and more-secure jobs, and now we're starting to see the benefit of our changes.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Under the Albanese Labor government we are currently seeing the strongest rate of annual real wage growth in five years. Growth in real wages helps workers with the cost of living. Importantly, the government's workplace relations reforms have reinvigorated enterprise bargaining, with a record high of 2.8 million employees now covered by enterprise agreements. This is the highest number of employees covered by agreements since bargaining first began, in 1991. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our government's workplace relations reforms have removed barriers to workplace bargaining, meaning better pay and job security for workers while helping businesses improve flexibility, productivity and staff retention. The most recent data shows that enterprise agreements are delivering real wage increases. The most recent data shows that the average annualised wage increase for agreements approved in the June quarter was 4.2 per cent—higher than the economy-wide wage increase of 3.4 per cent. In particular, enterprise agreements in the private sector led the growth in wages. Real wage increases delivered through enterprise bargaining are providing important cost-of-living relief for Aussie workers.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In addition to enterprise bargaining, our government has a strong record of standing up for our lowest paid workers. In our government's most recent submission to the Annual Wage Review, we called for a real wage increase. And, from 1 July this year, minimum award wages increased by 3.5 per cent. Of course, over the term of this Labor government, minimum award wages have increased by $9,120 a year. This is real money in the pockets of our lowest paid workers. We have also, of course, legislated to protect penalty rates for those on the minimum-award safety net who rely on them as an essential part of their pay packet. And, of course, our government is delivering tax cuts for every single worker in this country. While those on the other side continue to be distracted and divided, it is this Labor government that is committed to helping Australians earn more and keep more of what they earn.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Telecommunications</title>
          <page.no>2047</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Telecommunications</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2047</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McIntosh, Melissa MP</name>
              <name.id>281513</name.id>
              <electorate>Lindsay</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281513" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mrs McINTOSH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lindsay</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:06</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Communications. When exactly did the minister personally find out about the triple 0 outage on 18 September, and how was the minister personally advised of this outage?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2047</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
              <name.id>264121</name.id>
              <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="264121" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms WELLS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:06</span>):  I thank the shadow minister for her question. The triple 0 outage from Optus occurred on 18 September—the Thursday. I was made aware by my office late Friday afternoon that there had been more than 600 calls impacted and three deaths.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Education</title>
          <page.no>2047</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Education</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2047</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Coffey, Renee MP</name>
              <name.id>312323</name.id>
              <electorate>Griffith</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="312323" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms COFFEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Griffith</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:07</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Education. What is the Albanese Labor government doing to help Australians with a student debt, and what other reforms is the government making to higher education?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2047</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Clare, Jason Dean MP</name>
              <name.id>HWL</name.id>
              <electorate>Blaxland</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWL" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr CLARE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Blaxland</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Education</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:07</span>):  Can I thank the member for Griffith for her question. She asked about student debt. This is an issue I know is dear to her heart. There are 31,877 people in her electorate who have a student debt—I think that's almost the highest in the country—so the promise that we made at the election to cut student debt by 20 per cent means a lot to those 31,000 people in the electorate of Griffith but, more than that, to the three million Australians across the country. It was the first piece of legislation that we introduced and that we passed in this new parliament. The average student debt today is about 27 grand. That means that, when this cut takes place, it will cut about $5½ thousand off that average student debt. But, for those 31,000-odd people in Griffith, it's even more. The average student debt there is about 6½ grand, so that's a massive weight off their back. I can advise the House that the tax office tells us that they will start to do this from next month. The tax office will start cutting student debt from the second half of November, and it will continue in December. You won't have to do anything to get it; you will simply get a text message from the ATO when it's done.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We're doing that. We're also rolling out paid pracs. This is, for the very first time, the Commonwealth government providing financial support for teaching students, for nursing students, for midwifery students and for social work students. We promised it, and we're delivering it. It's real cost-of-living help—real, practical help with the practical part of your university degree. It started on 1 July, and already more than 50,000 people have applied to get it.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We also promised to double the number of university study hubs right across the country—in the bush, in the regions and, for the very first time, in the outer suburbs, bringing university closer to where people live. Again, we promised it and we're delivering it. I opened one in Strathpine in the member for Dickson's electorate in May; in June I opened one in Ellenbrook in the northern suburbs of Perth; in July a hub on King Island opened; a hub in Warwick, in the Leader of the National Party's electorate, opened in August, as did ones in Macquarie Fields, in Mount Druitt and in Broadmeadows; in September one opened in Moranbah; and in the next few months more will open on Kangaroo Island, in Kununurra, in Sorell in Tassie, and in Elizabeth in South Australia—and, Mr Speaker, also in the great suburb of Inala, a suburb that I know you know well, in the south-western suburbs of Brisbane.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">So, whether it's cutting student debt, whether it's paid prac or whether it's more university study hubs, we promised it and we're delivering it.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Albanese:</span>
                  </a>  I ask that further questions be placed on the <span style="font-style:italic;">Notice Paper</span>.</span>
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                <page.no>2047</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
                <name.id>R36</name.id>
                <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>BUSINESS</title>
        <page.no>2047</page.no>
        <type>BUSINESS</type>
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          <title>Leave of Absence</title>
          <page.no>2047</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>2047</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="R36" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:10</span>):  I move:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That leave of absence from today until 27 November 2025 be given to Ms Payne for parental leave purposes.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Speaking to that, if I may, I can inform the House that Joseph Douglas Phillips arrived over the weekend—the newest ACT constituent. Young Joseph weighed 3.7 kilograms and was 49.5 centimetres long. Mum and young Joseph are going very, very well and are delightful. I have seen some fantastic photos of the very, very happy family. So, to Alicia and her partner, Ben—I'm sure on behalf of everyone in this House—congratulations. We look forward to meeting young Joseph when he arrives here, although 27 November is the last sitting day of parliament. I'm not sure if it goes to 5 pm that day, but maybe young Joseph can drop in and say g'day to us on that day.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>QUESTIONS TO THE SPEAKER</title>
        <page.no>2048</page.no>
        <type>QUESTIONS TO THE SPEAKER</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">QUESTIONS TO THE SPEAKER</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Questions in Writing</title>
          <page.no>2048</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Questions in Writing</span>
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        <question>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>2048</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Pike, Henry MP</name>
              <name.id>300120</name.id>
              <electorate>Bowman</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300120" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr PIKE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bowman</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Opposition Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:12</span>):  Mr Speaker, in accordance with standing order 105(b) I wish to draw your attention to overdue questions in writing: questions Nos 2 and 6. On 23 July, I asked the Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government and the Minister for Disability and the National Disability Insurance Scheme critical questions of importance to my community. Seventy-six days later, I still have no response from either of them. Mr Speaker, can I ask that you write to the ministers and seek their explanations as to why they have chosen not to answer my questions in writing within 60 days.</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2048</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">The SPEAKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">15:12</span>):  I shall write to the ministers today, as the standing orders permit.</span>
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        </answer>
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    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>DOCUMENTS</title>
        <page.no>2048</page.no>
        <type>DOCUMENTS</type>
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          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">DOCUMENTS</span>
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          <title>Australian National Audit Office, Parliamentary Budget Office</title>
          <page.no>2048</page.no>
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          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p>
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Australian National Audit Office</span>
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            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Parliamentary Budget Office</span>
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          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Presentation</title>
            <page.no>2048</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo>
          <subdebate.text>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Presentation</span>
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                <page.no>2048</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">15:12</span>):  I present the annual reports for 2024-25 of the Australian National Audit Office and the Parliamentary Budget Office.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Documents made parliamentary papers.</span>
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        </subdebate.2>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Presentation</title>
          <page.no>2048</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Presentation</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2048</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
              <name.id>DYW</name.id>
              <electorate>Watson</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for the Arts, Minister for Home Affairs, Minister for Cyber Security, Minister for Immigration and Citizenship and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:13</span>):  Documents are tabled in accordance with the list circulated to honourable members earlier today. Full details of the documents will be recorded in the <span style="font-style:italic;">Votes and Proceedings</span>.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Documents made parliamentary papers.</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>MATTERS OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE</title>
        <page.no>2048</page.no>
        <type>MATTERS OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE</type>
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          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">MATTERS OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Middle East</title>
          <page.no>2048</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Middle East</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>2048</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">15:13</span>):  I have received a letter from the honourable member for Berowra proposing that a definite matter of public importance be submitted to the House for discussion, namely:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">The second anniversary of the October 7 terrorist attacks and the resultant increase in antisemitism in Australia.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I call upon those honourable members who approve of the proposed discussion to rise in their places.</span>
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                  <span style="font-style:italic;">More than the number of members required by the standing orders having risen in their places—</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>2048</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Leeser, Julian MP</name>
              <name.id>109556</name.id>
              <electorate>Berowra</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LEESER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Berowra</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:13</span>):  Today is a day of memory, a day of disappointment, a day of defiance and a day of hope. Three years ago, exactly a year before the attacks of October 7, I was in southern Israel with the Leader of the Opposition. We went to see how the Abraham Accords were transforming Israel's relationship with its Arab neighbours. We heard how they were creating not just peace but friendships and opportunities for both sides. A deal with Saudi Arabia was on everyone's lips. First Egypt, then Jordan and now the UAE, Bahrain and Morocco were making peace. The more Arab nations Israel made peace with, the greater the chance for peace between Israelis and Palestinians became.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Not everyone supported peace. We visited Ramallah and met with the Palestinian prime minister, Mohammad Shtayyeh, who denounced the deals and promised that the Palestinians would not be forgotten. We visited on election day. We went to Kibbutz Nahal Oz. We went to Sderot. We met volunteers from the wide range of Israeli political parties contesting the elections. Israel's elections are peacefully but hotly contested. We met people who live close to the border, working for peace. We climbed abandoned watchtowers and looked out towards Gaza. The distance between those two places is so small. It's the distance from Castle Hill to Parramatta. In Israel three years ago it was a time of hope. It appeared that Middle East peace was in reach.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia has long stood alongside the Israeli request for peace because Israel is a nation like our own. Both are Western liberal democracies which believe in the rule of law to protect the rights of women and religious minorities. Israel is one of the few places in the Middle East where Christians, Jews and Muslims can worship freely. Israel is the only place in the Middle East where LGBTI people live freely and openly and are celebrated. Its multi-ethnic parliament, defence force and even supreme court are comprised of Jews, Arabs, Bedouins and Druze. Their security partnership with Australia has been highly important. Its intelligence has helped stop terrorist attacks in our country and saved lives. It's why it's been so upsetting to watch the Albanese government abandon bipartisan support for Israel, even before October 7.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">However, one year on from that visit from the Leader of the Opposition and me, everything changed. Those horrific images of October 7 have been seared in our minds. We saw the shocking scenes of Hamas terrorists invading Israel, gunning down young people at the Nova music festival, shooting at the same people we visited a year earlier. We saw pictures of Naama Levy, wearing blood stained jeans, being forcibly dragged into a truck by terrorists; the dismemberment of bodies; women being raped and having their breasts cut off; parents having to watch their children being tortured, raped and murdered before they themselves were murdered. Babies and Holocaust survivors were captured, caged and killed.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Hamas committed unparalleled acts of depravity on that day. Not only did they commit them but they broadcast these crimes in real time so the world could see their atrocities. It was the sadistic murder of 1,200 people, the largest number of Jews killed in a single day since the Holocaust. We even saw one of the terrorists calling his mother to celebrate the number of Jews he had killed. Australia born grandmother and librarian Galit Carbone, whose brother is here in the gallery at this moment, was murdered. When the Foreign minister went to Israel, she refused to meet with her family and she refused to go south to see the places where these dreadful attacks took place. Following this attack, Hamas took the corpses back into Gaza where they were spat on by ordinary Gazans.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Hamas orchestrated the events of October 7 because they have one objective: to remove Israel and Jews from the face of the earth. Hamas is a death cult which uses its own people as human shields. Hamas aren't just terrorists; they are the government of Gaza. They run its health ministry. The infiltrated the UN agency UNRWA, whose employees took part in the October 7 attacks and whose headquarters were used as a Hamas communications base. Hamas has spent billions of dollars of foreign aid not developing its economy and giving its people a future. Instead, they stockpiled munitions under schools and hospitals. They created a network of terror tunnels which still hold 48 hostages in appalling and inhumane conditions. This is exactly why Australia listed Hamas as a terrorist organisation long before October 7.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I come back to the remaining 48 hostages who Hamas are holding captive. They are not just statistics; they're innocent people whose lives have been destroyed. Their families have been living a nightmare for two years, not knowing if their loved one is dead or alive. Those being held by Hamas range in age from 19 to 85. We must never forget their stories.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the remaining hostages is Maxim Herkin, 37. Maxim was born in the Donbass region of Ukraine. He has a daughter living in Russia, a partner and an 11-year-old brother, Peter. Although not a fan of parties, Max agreed to attend the Nova festival with two of his friends. Both of those friends were tragically killed on October 7, their bodies later found burnt inside a vehicle. Max was abducted from the Nova music festival. On the day of the attacks Maxim attempted to reassure his mother via text. 'Everything's okay,' he wrote early in the morning on that terrible Saturday. 'I'm coming home, slowly but surely.' Later, as the horror unfolded, he wrote simply to his mother, 'I love you.'</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There are the 28-year-old twins Ziv and Gali Berman from Kfar Aza. They are inseparable brothers who love travel and soccer. They are fans of Maccabi Tel Aviv and Liverpool FC and have played on the village football team, the Kfar Aza Foxes. On October 7, Ziv was in his room and Gali was visiting a friend two houses away. Ten days later the family received a message from the IDF that the brothers had likely been kidnapped. Their parents and their eldest brother, Liran, survived the terror attacks and are waiting for their return.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to speak about Evyatar David, who is just 24. Evyatar has an older brother and a sister. He plays guitar and, like so many 24-year-olds around the world, he loves to party. He was at the Nova music festival when he was trying to escape and was taken hostage with his best friend. Many people know Evyatar as the man who appeared in the Hamas video two months ago, looking like an emaciated figure out of Bergen-Belsen, being forced to dig his own grave in a terror tunnel. These are just four of the 48 people who have been held in captivity for 731 days. They must be brought home.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But, as disturbing as the October 7 attacks have been, they've led to a dreadful rise in antisemitism here in Australia. Australia has always been the exception to the rule about antisemitism. There have been Jews in this country since the First Fleet. Jewish Australians are responsible for building so many of Australia's institutions, from our Constitution to our football clubs and the retail, housing and entertainment industries. There are Jewish Australian Olympians, philanthropists, Anzacs, parliamentarians and even bushrangers. Australia has been one of the few nations on Earth that has never discriminated against Jews; however, for the past two years, Australians have seen things we never thought we would see in this country.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The very day after October 7, there was a gathering in Western Sydney where a sheik described October 7 as 'a day we have been waiting for, a day of elation'. That same spirit spilled onto our streets. We saw protests at the opera house. We saw restaurants invaded. We saw cars firebombed. We saw multiple graffiti and arson attacks on synagogues. We saw shops burnt. The families of hostages visiting from overseas had paint thrown on them. Even today in Melbourne, there was a sign reading 'Glory to Hamas'. People do it because they know they can get away with it, because they know there are no consequences. That's what Australia has become.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Two years later, not enough has been done to curb these antisemitic excesses. The pro-Hamas rallies continue. This week, again protesters are trying to hijack the Sydney Opera House. Tonight, demonstrations are planned in Bankstown led by the same sheik who described October 7 as 'a day of glory'. Our university campuses continue to be unsafe for Jewish students. Artists continue to be pressured and punished for refusing to bend to the mob. Unfortunately, we have seen a federal government that has failed to act with urgency.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">All of these failures directly lie at the feet of the Prime Minister, who has refused to stand firm and stamp out antisemitism across Australia, in stark contrast to Labor leaders like Chris Minns. Under the leadership of this prime minister, this government has spent two years being reactive to issues impacting the Jewish community. It took months to legislate the hate symbols ban first proposed by the coalition. They failed to coordinate law enforcement and intelligence agencies across the federation when the crisis first reared its head. They failed to curb violent protest on our streets. They allowed Jew haters to run amok on campuses and refused a judicial inquiry. The Prime Minister had to be dragged kicking and screaming to convene National Cabinet, which delivered neither tougher penalties nor stronger laws. For two and a half years, we have called for them to list the IRGC, which has been responsible for terrorist attacks on our streets.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The former Attorney-General failed during his tenure to root out antisemitism at the Human Rights Commission. The Foreign minister's conduct abroad has left thousands of Jewish Australians appalled, breaking decades of bipartisan foreign policy. Labor took months to appoint the special envoy on antisemitism and then ignored her advice on crucial matters. The special envoy delivered a comprehensive report months ago. The government has had this report, yet there has been no response, no plan, no decisive action to keep law-abiding Australians of every background safe.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Of course, there is hope. The hope is the peace plan that has been pursued by the United States. It's a peace plan that this government has had no input into because this government chose to disrespect our longstanding bipartisan position in relation to Israel and alienated Washington. This government chose the path of unilateral recognition of the Palestinian state. This has been praised by Palestinian actors, and I say to the Prime Minister: with the new political capital you have with the Palestinian actors, it is important to pressure them to pressure Hamas. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>2050</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dreyfus, Mark MP</name>
              <name.id>HWG</name.id>
              <electorate>Isaacs</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr DREYFUS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Isaacs</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:23</span>):  On 7 October 2023, in a day of horror, Hamas terrorists carried out coordinated, barbaric attacks on the people of southern Israel. The grief and the horror of that day live on in families, in communities and in people I know. I have felt that grief and horror since that day. Hundreds of festival-goers were murdered at the Nova festival near Re'im. In nearby communities, including Kfar Aza, Be'eri, Nir Oz, Nahal Oz, Holit, Zikim, Kerem Shalom and Sufa, people, families, were brutally attacked and butchered in their homes. More than 1,200 men, women and children were slaughtered; more than 250 people were taken hostage. These were deliberate attacks on civilians. These were atrocities against civilians. This was the greatest loss of Jewish life in a single event since the Holocaust. That day left more than physical devastation. It imposed a grief that will not pass quickly and a trauma that will cross generations.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">For Israeli survivors, for the families of those murdered and for those still waiting for loved ones to return, the legacy of 7 October is enduring. Its violence and cruelty left a mark not only on individuals but on a people. I spoke at Caulfield Park in Melbourne days after the 7 October 2023 attack, on behalf of the Prime Minister and the Australian government, in front of 6,000 people from the Melbourne Jewish community. I stood with the Premier of Victoria and with representatives from the federal and state Liberal oppositions. I stood with Jewish community leaders and with a resident of Kibbutz Kfar Aza, who was visiting Melbourne when her kibbutz was attacked. All of us were united in our condemnation of the barbarity of the Hamas attacks.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In January this year I was in Israel when a ceasefire was agreed. After 15 months of war and after what began with those horrific atrocities, there was finally a glimmer of hope. What I saw and heard in that week in Israel will stay with me. At Kibbutz Be'eri, where more than 130 people were murdered, I met with Danny Majzner, who is in our parliament today—he was here during question time. Danny walked me through a community that will never be the same. Danny survived that day; his sister, Galit Carbone—an Australian grandmother—did not. She was murdered in her home. Danny generously shared his family's story with me. To walk those streets and to see homes that were once full of life torn apart is to understand the weight of what was lost on October 7.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">At the site of the Nova music festival, Shalev Biton guided me through the place where 340 people were murdered. Shalev had just returned from working in Australia before attending the festival. He escaped by running for kilometres and was saved by the selfless actions of a nearby farm manager. His story is one of horror and also of survival. These experiences—standing where such brutality occurred, hearing directly from those who lived through it—reinforced what I not just already knew but felt. These were not acts of war; they were terrorist atrocities and they must never be forgotten.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is shocking that in Australia, after the barbarity of October 7, we have seen a rise in antisemitism, including antisemitic violence and public abuse. This has challenged our shared commitment to safety, mutual respect and the rule of law. Regardless of circumstance, Australia is defined by the expectation that all people should be able to live free from fear. I'm always saddened when events overseas leave any Australians feeling less secure and asking serious questions about their place in this country. Some have used these events to drive political division and have exploited international events to incite anger and division in Australia. That path does not lead to peace and does not reflect who we should be. We must ensure that our response to international conflicts strengthens rather than undermines our community. No-one in Australia should feel unsafe because of their background or beliefs, and political disagreements, however vigorous, must never compromise the principles that underpin democratic values or public safety. It's through the discipline of law, of restraint and of equal regard that democracy is defended and national unity is maintained.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There have been moments over the past year, brief and fragile, when ceasefires were reached. In those moments there was relief and even joy, not only in Israel and Gaza but across the region and beyond. Those ceasefires offered a glimpse of what might be possible, something that ends the killing and allows diplomacy, humanitarian aid and recovery to take its place. But let there be no doubt; the attacks carried out by Hamas on 7 October 2023 were acts of terrorism—deliberate, calculated, extremist and inhumane.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">What I've witnessed on our streets in Australia over the last two years has been distressing. The hate, the vitriol and the antisemitism that have festered are utterly unacceptable. Every Australian has the right to protest, but no-one has the right to protest wherever they please at the expense of the safety and freedom of others. We must restore the balance between freedom of expression and freedom of movement, ensuring that the right to protest never becomes the right to intimidate and inflame tensions in our community. The very few limits placed on protest activity have paradoxically placed limits on the Jewish community's ability to move and live freely. Families have been afraid to walk in their own neighbourhoods. Jewish schools have cancelled excursions and counselled their students not to wear identifying uniforms. Synagogues and schools have required armed security and police protection. In 2025 in Australia, no religious institution should need such a protection. All Australians, including our Jewish citizens, must be able to live publicly, proudly and safely in the country they call home. The Jewish community in Australia deserves our full and unequivocal support. Jews in Australia should not have to doubt whether their fellow Australians stand with them against hate.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I believe there remains, at heart, strong support for the Jewish community within this parliament, across government and across Australia. But belief alone is not enough. We must act. We must ensure our laws, our public spaces and our public discourse reflect the values of safety, decency and inclusion for all. This parliament can and does reaffirm that Australia stands against hate and stands for unity. We must confront antisemitism wherever it appears—in schools, on campuses, in workplaces and in our political institutions. And it's not just a task for government or for members of parliament. The responsibility to challenge hate belongs to every one of us. Silence is not neutrality; it is complicity.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The events of 7 October 2023 were horrific in their intent and brutality, but the events of October 7 are also a test. They are a test of our humanity, our principles and our courage to speak truth when it's most difficult to do so. Let us honour the victims of that day not only through remembrance but through resolve. Let us ensure that hate finds no home in Australia, not in our streets, not in our institutions and not in our hearts. May the values that define us as Australians—freedom, safety and respect for all—guide not just our words but our actions too. The Jewish community has every right to expect that the crimes committed by Hamas will be condemned clearly, unequivocally and without justification of any kind. I hope for peace, but it will not come easily. It rarely does. Peace is not simply declared; it's built through law, through diplomacy and through the discipline and resolve to continue even when progress is slow or opposed.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Prime Minister reminded us at the start of question time that the world must never forget the atrocities that were inflicted by Hamas. He called on us to think of those still held hostage and to join with our partners around the world in calling for the hostages to be returned immediately and with dignity. The Prime Minister is right. We must not forget. We remember those hostages who did not survive, and we continue to call for those still held to come home. The future must be grounded in security for Israel and dignity for Palestinians, and we continue to hope for a just and lasting peace. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>2051</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wallace, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>265967</name.id>
              <electorate>Fisher</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
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                  <a href="265967" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WALLACE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fisher</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:33</span>):  Today we commemorate the most appalling atrocities that occurred in Israel two years ago today, where we saw the massacre of some 1,200 innocent Israelis. Women, children and men were slaughtered, women were raped, and some 250 people were taken hostage. I had the opportunity, along with the member for Macnamara and others, to visit Israel just two short months after the event, and what I saw will stay with me forever. Before we went to Israel, the Israeli ambassador briefed a number of members of the PJCIS and gave us the opportunity to see a 43-minute video—or a compilation, at least—of the bodycam footage of those Hamas terrorists slaughtering 1,200 Israelis. That also will stay with me for the rest of my life.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">When we visited southern Israel, we went to a town called Sderot, which is called the air-raid-shelter capital of the world because it has an air-raid shelter every 100 metres in public spaces. Every single home has an air-raid shelter because of the tens of thousands of rockets and missiles that have been fired from Gaza into the town of Sderot. Occupants of Sderot have around 30 seconds or so to get into an air-raid shelter once the siren goes. That's their life and that's the life that they have led for many years.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Some of the images that have stayed with me from that trip, visiting with the member for Macnamara and the member for Flinders, are from walking through Kibbutz Kfar Aza and seeing the absolute destruction of homes. Walls were pockmarked with gunshots from RPGs and small-arms fire. Homes had been burnt to the ground. The footage in that video, seeing white HiLux 4x4 utes pulling up, taking the hostages and driving back into Gaza to the absolute jubilation of the residents in Gaza that Jews had been captured—that will stay with me for the rest of my life.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>It is a good thing that we commemorate this today, and we hope—and I hope and pray—that peace is near. Too many people have died. Too many people have suffered on both sides since 7 October, and I hope and pray that this peace plan comes to fruition and that it holds. Nobody wants to see innocent life being taken, nobody wants to see people suffer, and I'm sure that everybody in this place would share those views. So today we recognise the loss, pain and grief of the people of Israel and we say, 'Am Yisrael Chai.' <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2052</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burns, Josh MP</name>
              <name.id>278522</name.id>
              <electorate>Macnamara</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="278522" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURNS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Macnamara</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:39</span>):  The sands were shifting in the Middle East in the lead-up to October 7. There had already been normalisations of relationships between Israel and the UAE, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan, and there was talk of the Israeli government and the Saudi Arabian authorities coming together and forming diplomatic relationships. It's now about 7.30 in the morning in Israel; on October 7, an hour previously, at 6.30, all of that was attacked. The idea that somehow there could be a stabilisation of the Israeli people and the Israeli place in the Middle East was attacked directly, in the most brutal and awful way.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But the test of October 7 is reflecting not just on what happened but also on what needs to be confronted and fought back against. On October 7, the people who were killed were the people who sought peace—people living in the southern parts of Israel, in the kibbutzim like the one I visited, Kfar Aza, which was filled with people with simple homes and communal living, people who sought to live alongside the Palestinian people in harmony and peace, working the land and creating wealth and products from this oasis in the desert. The young kids who were dancing and listening to music underneath the desert sky were seeking only to enjoy their friends and their time away from national service. They were the people who were killed on October 7—the people who wanted peace, the left-wing people inside Israel. That was the tragedy of it all. But the reason behind it was that an organisation filled with terror and seeking to dehumanise another group of people sought to tear it apart in the most brutal and awful way. That is exactly why we must hold the humanity in ourselves and see the humanity in one another on this day more than any other.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I think one of the hardest things for the Jewish people around the world is that the grief that they experienced as a result of October 7 was never really allowed to manifest and be openly expressed without people seeking to minimise it or not giving the space for it to be presented and made public in the way in which it should be allowed to be. To have people trying to delegitimise the experiences of the Jewish people really hurt. It also absolutely must be said on this day—and I say so as a proud Jewish person—that the experiences of the Palestinian people have been devastating and that they too must have the space and the respect to grieve openly and to mourn the cost and the lives that have been lost as a result of this terrible conflict, because that is what October 7 was. It was a time in which people sought to take away each other's humanity. But that is not who we are, and that is not the future that we seek to build. When you look at the Australian whose life was taken, Galit Carbone, a grandmother and a person who lived freely and with peace and love—that is the person who we seek to remember today, but it is also the sort of intent that we want to build and take from this moment.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Right now, across the world, Jewish communities are hurting, but so are Palestinians. On October 7, we must take this opportunity to say that, on the holy days of the Jewish calendar, it is not enough to just say that we want to somehow use this moment to make a political point against some action of the Israeli government. No, in this moment we need to allow people to grieve, to remember the lives that were lost and to say that on this day, on October 7, the future that we seek to build is one where we try to recognise the humanity in one another.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I also want to say that the comments by the leader of a political organisation in this country, saying that, as a result of the actions of the Israeli government, there was somehow a legitimate target and a legitimate reason to attack Jewish people going to synagogue, are exactly the wrong approach to be taking and exactly the wrong lesson to be taking from October 7. Where we are today right now is a moment where we can choose peace and outline a pathway towards peace, for the Palestinian people to finally be able to go home and for the Israeli people to be reunited with their loved ones who are being held hostage, and that is what we seek to do—not to legitimise violence but to see the humanity in one another and imagine a future where the violence and terrorism that happened on October 7 never happen again.</span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2053</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wilson, Tim MP</name>
              <name.id>IMW</name.id>
              <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="IMW" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TIM WILSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Goldstein</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:44</span>):  On the morning of 7 October 2023, young men and women danced at sunrise at the Nova dance festival and farmers awoke at the kibbutzim in southern Israel. But the peace was broken by Hamas terrorists who abused the trust of those they had deliberately built that trust with to launch attacks, horrific attacks, that are now counted as the biggest loss of Jewish life since the Holocaust. Women, men, children and babies were murdered. Women were raped, mutilated and paraded. Two years on, 48 hostages remain in Gaza. Among them is a 19-year-old woman; others are as old as 85. It's quite simple: bring them home. October 7 should never have happened. It certainly should have been the end, but it was the beginning. On 8 October, we had protests on the steps of the Sydney Opera House celebrating the attacks. Shortly after that we had intimidation in Princes Park outside Central Shule in the Goldstein electorate. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Left unchecked, the crisis of antisemitism has spread across Australia and is lived by Jewish Australians—from abuse and graffiti to firebombings. There's no place for antisemitism in Australia, nor should international conflicts become the basis for targeting our fellow citizens. Since then, we have had an aggressive and, we need to acknowledge, at times successful global propaganda effort to delegitimise Israel defending its national security and defending the interests of its citizens from the terrorist organisation Hamas. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Many Australians of good intention, of course, are looking at the situation overseas and are disgusted at the rise of antisemitism at home, struggling to understand these events and the impact they've had. To those Australians, I recommend reading the book <span style="font-style:italic;">Rup</span><span style="font-style:italic;">tured</span><span style="font-style:italic;">:</span><span style="font-style:italic;"> Jewish </span><span style="font-style:italic;">W</span><span style="font-style:italic;">omen in Australia </span><span style="font-style:italic;">R</span><span style="font-style:italic;">eflect on </span><span style="font-style:italic;">L</span><span style="font-style:italic;">ife </span><span style="font-style:italic;">P</span><span style="font-style:italic;">ost</span><span style="font-style:italic;">-</span><span style="font-style:italic;">October</span><span style="font-style:italic;"> 7</span>, edited by Lee Kofman and Tamar Paluch. I recommend it because so many people are trying to make sense of these events and understand the impact that they've had on Australians. It brings home how our fellow Australians have felt in the months and years since October 7. In her chapter 'In case I ever get kidnapped', Tamar Paluch wrote:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I have never felt my identities as a mother and a Jew activated as powerfully and urgently as in these times. The world in which I was once fluent and comfortable feels alien and untrustworthy.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Jemima Montag wrote in 'Nana's bracelet':</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">… I had made an active decision to conceal my Jewish identity to protect my safety and mental health …</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Other contributors, like Noa Gomberg, wrote:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Frankly, I'm still not sure why or how the queer community grew so vulnerable to Hamas propaganda—considering they routinely slaughter us in Gaza—or how it has become popular to accessorise keffiyehs with pride pins.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">There is this deep sense of betrayal. In addressing some of the issues of re-traumatisation, particularly from the Holocaust, Dani Valent wrote in her chapter 'Open hiding':</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I used to feel the same as my brother: we did not suffer intergenerational trauma. But I have realised it was waiting in my blood. My cells seized with it and they have not eased. The rhetoric around the Hamas attacks and the Israeli response has been like screams in my face …</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In her chapter 'North of the river', Siana Einfeld wrote explicitly about the betrayal she has experienced. She wrote:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">On December 18 2023—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">shortly after the attacks—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Darebin City Council, which has never once passed a motion about any other foreign conflict, pushed through a motion solely condemning Israel for the war it did not start.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">… The motion did not once mention the killing spree of October 7. It did not acknowledge the plight of the hostages nor the mass sexual violence perpetrated by Hamas against Israeli girls and women.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In her chapter 'The crack and the light', Melinda Jones wrote:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">It was particularly painful to see how the feminist movement, including many of my friends, responded to October 7. They took two inconsistent positions, one involving justification of what happened and the other denial.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">… Men were the violators; women were the victims of horrific sexual violence. It was not so long ago that rape in war was recognised as a war crime, as the world is reminded annually on the International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence in Conflict. But, according to some of my feminist ex-friends, 'rape is resistance'. Somehow the women who were abused, deserved it.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In her chapter 'The woman in the arena', Simonne Whine wrote of how it has inspired her. She wrote:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">One thing I have realised is that the true arena isn't a place you enter deliberately, for glory. The arena <span style="font-style:italic;">chooses</span> you. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">… I will continue to fight, not just for myself, but for my children, for my people, for our future in Australia. Because history has shown us, time and time again, the cost of silence.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Rabbi Jacqueline Ninio in 'And still we dance' said:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">It takes great courage to believe that there will be a better tomorrow, that we will dance again in freedom. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span>
                </span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2054</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Thistlethwaite, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>182468</name.id>
              <electorate>Kingsford Smith</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="182468" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr THISTLETHWAITE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kingsford Smith</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Immigration and Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:49</span>):  This is an anniversary we wish we didn't have to commemorate. The deplorable actions of Hamas on 7 October 2023 saw 1,200 innocent Israeli lives lost and hundreds of people taken hostage. Today we commemorate and pay tribute to those innocent victims of the actions of Hamas, and we offer support to their families on what is, no doubt, a very difficult anniversary. This was the time when modern Israel lost its freedom and its innocence.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm proud to represent the Kingsford Smith community, which has a very strong and growing Jewish population. I know that many of them had relatives who were killed on October 7 or were taken hostage. To the local Jewish community: I want you to know that today we are thinking of you and we offer you and your families our support, and we thank you for your courage. Again, we condemn the actions of Hamas and, again, we call for the immediate release of the hostages that are still being held.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Over the past two years we've seen some shocking acts of antisemitism across Australia in the wake of October 7. Some of them occurred in my electorate. There was the deplorable firebombing of a kindergarten next door to a synagogue. That childcare centre remains closed to this day. The Mount Sinai school next door had shocking antisemitic language spray-painted in large letters on brick walls. People have been harassed and vilified walking down the street. And even today we've unfortunately seen some shocking and insensitive graffiti. This is completely unacceptable. Every Australian has the right to feel safe in their home, in their workplace and in their community. I once again strongly condemn these antisemitic attacks that have occurred.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In our area we acted promptly, in partnership with our local Jewish community, to protect them through the establishment of a local operation shelter group. I brought together elected representatives, the local area commander for the local police force, the local crime commander, representatives of the shuls, the rabbis and the presidents, and our local Jewish schools. We have worked together to keep the community safe. Thankfully, we've seen a reduction in those antisemitic attacks, but we will not stop until it is completely eliminated.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">October 7 opened an horrific chapter in world history. The world now has an opportunity to close that chapter. Australians want an end to this decades-long conflict. They want to see the hostages released; they want to see an immediate ceasefire; they want Hamas disarmed and out of Gaza; and they want free and unimpeded aid for Palestinians who are suffering. They want to see a democratically elected government in Gaza, and they want to see two states living in peace side by side.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">When the Prime Minister spoke at the United Nations General Assembly last week, he mentioned that Australia was the first nation to support, in 1947, the establishment of the State of Israel. That's something that, as a nation, we are very proud of. But the Prime Minister also pointed out that support was on two conditions: on the condition that there is an independent state of Israel and on the condition that there is a state of Palestine. That means two states living side by side in peace. That means two states with citizens of both living peacefully in a recognised country, where their children can learn and thrive, where their parents can work and provide, where democratic governments can provide services and keep the populations of those countries safe and where those citizens finally can live in their homelands in peace. We have an opportunity, as a world, to work together on achieving this; let's not fail to grasp this opportunity. Let's make sure that we bring a lasting peace to the Middle East, with two states, two groups of citizens, living in peace, and that we never have to commemorate another October 7 attack in this place or anywhere else in the world ever again.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2054</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McCormack, Michael MP</name>
              <name.id>219646</name.id>
              <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="219646" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr McCORMACK</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Riverina</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:54</span>):  At the outset, I want to commend the members for Berowra, Isaacs and Macnamara for their contributions. It would not have been particularly easy for them to stand and speak on this very important matter of public importance. 7 October 2023 was a day of shame, infamy and savagery. It is a day we must never forget.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I wonder what Eddie Jaku would think about what happened on that day and about what has happened in his adopted country since that day. He, of course, wrote <span style="font-style:italic;">The Happiest Man </span><span style="font-style:italic;">o</span><span style="font-style:italic;">n Earth</span>, an autobiography of his life. In the frontispiece of that 2020 publication, which was reprinted six times that year, is written:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Eddie Jaku has always considered himself a German first, a Jew second. He was proud of his country. But all of that changed in November 1938, when he was beaten, arrested and taken to a concentration camp.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It was a concentration camp run by the Nazis. They were no better and no worse than Hamas—despicable people, absolutely abhorrent people. I recommend everybody read this book. It was given to me by Josh Frydenberg, a great friend of mine; we communicate every day. In this book, there are 15 chapters. The book runs to 195 pages. Each chapter has a little verse just under the number. Particularly I want to note four of those. Chapter 8 says:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">If you lose your morals, you lose yourself.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">That's what Eddie wrote. Chapter 10 says:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Where there is life, there is hope.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Chapter 11 says: </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">There are always miracles in the world, even when it seems dark.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">And chapter 13 says:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">We are all part of a larger society, and our work is our contribution to a free and safe life for all. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Of course, that's all he ever hoped for. That's what he was given by his adopted country, Australia. He lived a long life—101 years. We thank him for what he brought to this country.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">What we've seen in this country in the last two years has been beyond belief. It's been un-Australian. I see the member for Isaacs nodding. He, like me and like all of us, agrees it's just appalling. I was appalled at the decision by New South Wales Supreme Court Justice Belinda Rigg to allow a protest on the Sydney Harbour Bridge on 3 August, a protest which was not about bringing peace and a safer world for all. It was antisemitic. Let's call it what it was. The people who engaged in the sorts of things that day, carried the sorts of signs and chanted the sorts of slogans should take a good, long, hard look at themselves. The same people are now wanting to have another protest in front of the opera house. We already had the opera house used—I would say abused—in the past two years, very soon after the October 7 attacks. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Of course, these Hamas lovers want to use iconic symbols to show the world that this is what Australia thinks. Well, this is not what Australia thinks. I know that most Australians are appalled at what happened on October 7 and are appalled at the attacks on Jewish synagogues and on Jews themselves since that terrible, terrible day. Yet sometimes, when you read the media, particularly social media, you would think the opposite was the case. Well, it is not. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's not just confined to capital cities. Even in my own home town of Wagga Wagga there have been appalling things done in the name of being pro-Hamas, in the name of, apparently, being pro-Palestine. But it's not pro-Palestine, because what they ask for—a free state for Palestine—has been granted by the Australian government. I don't believe it should have been. I believe our government should have and could have done more, but this is the world in which we live. It is not just confined to capital cities, and I think it is a terrible, terrible state of affairs. I mourn for the Jewish people. I stand with Israel today and every day.</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2055</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Freelander, Mike MP</name>
              <name.id>265979</name.id>
              <electorate>Macarthur</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="265979" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr FREELANDER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Macarthur</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:59</span>):  What happened on October 7 two years ago in Israel was a horror and atrocity, and its effects have caused ongoing trauma to Jewish communities and other communities all around the world. The taking of the hostages, their ongoing, drawn-out murders and their depictions as starving remnants of humans in the media, is absolutely shocking and a sign of the terror and the horror that is ongoing around the world, and we must never, ever forget that. Not only were these people young people killed in front of their relatives—babies and young people with talent, with all their lives ahead of them, murdered by the terror of Hamas—but the terror has been ongoing. We must never forget that, and we must make sure that we deal with the ongoing trauma that it has caused in Jewish communities all around the world, particularly in Australia.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Antisemitism has existed in Australia for a long period of time, since Jewish communities first started in Australia, since the time of the First Fleet. We know that many of the First Fleet convicts who were Jewish wrote their religion, which they were required to do, not as Jewish but rather as Christian, because they wanted to avoid the so-called stigma that that was associated with. We've seen antisemitism occur in Australia in the 19th century and in the beginnings of the 20th century, and a number of politicians on all sides promoted antisemitism as a way of gaining votes. We saw that in the post-World War II time of refugees coming to Australia. Antisemitism has existed since the settlement of Australia from the First Fleet. We saw it in my younger life with the firebombing of a number of synagogues in Australia in the early 1990s. That led to the permanent closure of the Bankstown synagogue, which I briefly attended as a young adult.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Antisemitism has existed for a long period of time, but, since the October 7 atrocities, we've seen it really flourish, probably culminating in the firebombing of the Adass Israel synagogue in Melbourne, which led to its virtual destruction. I don't believe there's a person in this parliament that believes antisemitism is a good thing. We must make sure that we do everything we can to eradicate it, and I believe the government, in its very bipartisan way, has tried to do what it can to make sure antisemitism doesn't exist in our communities.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We also can't ignore what has happened in Palestine, the tragedy of thousands of deaths that have occurred following the October 7 atrocity, and our Palestinian communities are going through much trauma as well. In my electorate, we have Palestinian nurses and doctors, who I've spoken to about this, who are really traumatised by what has happened. So October 7 was a seminal point, and we must never forget what happened, but we must deal with all the communities that have been affected in a way that acknowledges their trauma and supports them.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">There is much more to be done. We cannot just stand here and believe that what we have done is enough. There is more to be done, and there will be ongoing trauma from the atrocities that have occurred that will affect generations to come, I'm sure. Young children have seen their kindergartens graffitied and the targets of attempted firebombings. It has an effect, an ongoing effect. It's a tragedy that our community, which prides itself on allowing people to practise their religions and to live the way they want without harming other people, is being traumatised by this ongoing antisemitism, which we must attempt to control.</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2056</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Joyce, Barnaby MP</name>
              <name.id>e5d</name.id>
              <electorate>New England</electorate>
              <party>ON</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="e5d" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr JOYCE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">New England</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:04</span>):  I thank all the contributors thus far. I've never been to Israel. I've been asked a few times, but I've never gone. I always feel that I'm participating in a debate which I really don't know much about or which I don't know that I want to be a part of. But, certainly, 7 October has made me think again. This was a bestial, ferine, sadistic thing—the apotheosis of evil—inflicted upon innocent people.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I heard the previous speaker say that antisemitism has been around for a while. It certainly has. It probably dates back to the Book of Esther and the fifth scroll. It was obvious with the Persians at that stage, who decided they wanted to get rid of the Jews, and with the Romans, 70 years after the birth of Christ, with the taking of Jerusalem. Their goal was just to wipe out and disperse the Jewish people. In Medieval Europe, they were blamed for the Black Death. They were blamed for poisoning the wells. They were precluded from being in professions by the use of guilds. They were precluded from ownership and from public office.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Under Urban II, during the Crusades, on the liberation of Jerusalem, they decided that they were actually going to wipe out the Jewish people on the way through. There were the pogroms and the lunacy that was the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, written by the Russian secret service. Even Luther had a fair go, trying to have a crack at the Jews. And, of course, there was the Holocaust, which is the absolute apotheosis of evil, right up there with 7 October—the same thing. The only difference is the numbers.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">What you have to understand, and what I understand, is that, obviously, the Jewish people have to protect themselves. They have a very, very good reason to protect themselves. The important thing is that they were invaded. They didn't start this fight. They were invaded by a terrorist organisation, which, unfortunately, in 2006, won the elections in Gaza. It's a terrorist organisation with the imprimatur of a section of geography of the world. And, that being the case, Israel has to do what Israel has got to do. If it happened to Australia, we would not rest in this chamber until it was absolutely and utterly dealt with, 100 per cent.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Think about it in history. The Americans didn't stop at the corner of Germany and say, 'We're just going to leave sections of the SS alone,' nor did the Russians. The Americans, at the end of the Second World War, didn't stop at the edge of Japan and say, 'We'll just leave them alone from this point forward.' They have to bring it to a conclusion by the defeat of the enemy. That is what is happening here, and what Hamas has to do is surrender. That's what they've got to do—surrender and hand back the hostages. That's what happens in a war. Jeannette Rankin said:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">There can be no compromise with war. It cannot be reformed or controlled; cannot be disciplined into decency or codified into common sense, for war is the slaughter of human beings, temporarily regarded as enemies, on as large a scale as possible.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">That's Jeanette Rankin; that's not me.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We all want this war to stop, because the epitome of evil is war. The only way it can stop is for the people who started it to surrender. When that happens, we have the capacity to bring this absolute carnage to a conclusion. Around 7 October is a discussion of how people can get their minds around what they did to children and to women—just the bestial nature of it. The fact is that right now there are still human beings who have been jammed down holes in the ground to starve to death. That's happening right now. So we absolutely must put our shoulder to the wheel and recognise exactly how this started.</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2056</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Spender, Allegra MP</name>
              <name.id>286042</name.id>
              <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                  <a href="286042" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SPENDER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wentworth</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:09</span>):  The barbaric atrocities of 7 October 2023 are seared in our minds: around 1,200 dead, 251 hostages taken—48 of those still in Gaza—women raped, children murdered and lives destroyed. It was the most devastating attack on Jewish life since the Holocaust. Hamas's barbaric attack was not just an attack on Israel; the impact has reverberated around the world for the last two years. When I look back today, I cannot think of a single group of people around the world whose lives are better off due to that barbaric attack, except those who are enemies of peace, enemies of social cohesion and enemies of the values that our country holds most dear and must protect.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Today we remember the attack and we commemorate the lives of all of those who were lost on that day and those people whose lives are daily affected. We think of the families, in particular, who are left behind, like the family of Galit Carbone, a Sydney born grandmother. We think of the family of people like Eli Sharabi, a hostage who was finally freed to find that so many of his family did not survive that day and who came to the parliament recently to share his story. We think of the Bibas family, whose beautiful children and mother were murdered on that day, and people like Remo, Mazal and Millet, who came to Australia and told of their terrifying experiences at the Nova music festival—the friends that they helped and the friends that they lost on that day. Today is the day to recognise and commemorate the lives that were destroyed on that day. Many of those were Israeli and many of those were Palestinian. Lives have been destroyed across the world because of a war that followed Hamas's actions that day. We can acknowledge all the pain across humanity that started with those atrocities that day. We are all the children of humanity, and all of our children are innocent.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Jewish Australians in particular have been affected by that day because of their personal connections to Israel and the friends and families in Israel who were directly affected—those who were lost and those who were devastated by losses. But of enormous pain, I think, for the Jewish community, particularly the community I represent, has been the devastating rise of antisemitism here in Australia. There have been Jews in Australia since the First Fleet, and the Jewish community has made an outstanding contribution to this country in all fields, from the military to law, the arts and community, and in so many different ways. But I have spoken to so many Jewish people, whose families have been here for generations, who are now not sure if they are welcome here or if their children or their grandchildren are safe here, and that is a terrible thing to be contemplating in this country.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I spoke to a 15-year-old who was walking down the street wearing a blazer from a Jewish school when a car slowed down to do a 'heil Hitler' at him and swear, 'Effing Jews.' A friend of mine asked another person just to move his car and was told, 'Eff the South African Jews'—again, just because he asked someone in a South African accent. A rabbi said he was holding the hand of his eight-year-old daughter and waiting at the lights when, again, a car slowed down to swear at them as Jews. This eight-year-old girl—what responsibility does she bear for anything? Absolutely none. She is welcome in this country, as are all Jewish Australians and all people of all faiths in this country. The armed guards in front of the schools in my electorate are an affront to our Australian humanity. The food that has been thrown and the firebombs on the street—the street that I actually grew up on—don't belong here in Australia. No attacks on any religion belong here in Australia, and the Jewish community has been absolutely devastated in the last two years in particular.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The question really is: now what? Where do we go from here? I think the first thing that I pray for, and I know so many do, is peace because of the devastation of the war overseas. We know that there are negotiations afoot between Israel and Hamas. I pray that those are successful, that we find peace, that the ceasefire happens, that the hostages are released, that aid is reached and that we rebuild a Palestinian state and the Israeli state. But it is also up to us to protect what we have in this country here. We are the most successful multicultural country in the world, and it is up to every single one of us every day to protect that, to make sure this is a safe and welcoming place for all faiths and all cultures. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Claydon</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  The discussion has now concluded.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2057</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>248181</name.id>
                <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
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        <title>COMMITTEES</title>
        <page.no>2057</page.no>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">COMMITTEES</span>
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          <title>Human Rights Joint Committee</title>
          <page.no>2057</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Human Rights Joint Committee</span>
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          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Report</title>
            <page.no>2057</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Report</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2057</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Mascarenhas, Zaneta MP</name>
                <name.id>298800</name.id>
                <electorate>Swan</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="298800" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms MASCARENHAS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Swan</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:14</span>):  On behalf of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Human Rights, I present the committee's report entitled <span style="font-style:italic;">Human rights scrutiny report: report 5 of 2025</span>.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Report made a parliamentary paper in accordance with standing order 39(e).</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="298800" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms MASCARENHAS:</span>
                    </a>  by leave—I am pleased to present the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Human Rights' fifth scrutiny report of 2025. In this report, the committee has considered 29 new bills and 66 new legislative instruments. It has commented on eight bills and two legislative instruments and concluded its examination of four bills.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In this report, the committee commented on the Home Affairs Legislation Amendment (2025 Measures No. 1) Bill 2025. This bill, now an act, removes the rules of natural justice in relation to the exercise of certain powers that facilitate the removal of noncitizens from Australia. These powers relate to the collection, use or disclosure of information; entering third-country reception arrangements; and issuing removal pathway directions to noncitizens. This committee previously commented on these powers when they were first introduced. The committee considered that these powers limited numerous human rights.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In relation to this bill, the committee considers that the human rights concerns associated with the powers are likely exacerbated by disapplying the rules of natural justice to these powers. In particular, the committee considers that this measure engages and limits the right not to be expelled from a country without due process. The committee also considers that the measure engages Australia's non-refoulement obligations; the prohibition against torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment; and the right to an effective remedy.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee further notes that the bill affects the outcome of a case currently pending before the High Court of Australia. There is a risk that this could constitute an impermissible interference with the independence and impartiality of the judiciary, an element of the right to a fair hearing.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee notes that this bill has passed both houses of parliament in a short timeframe. This meant that the committee did not have adequate time to scrutinise the bill and seek further information from the minister in order to provide appropriate advice to the parliament as to the human rights compatibility of the bill. This is of particular concern to the committee given the significant human rights implications of this bill.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As the bill has now passed, the committee draws these concerns to the attention of the minister and the parliament, and makes no further comment.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee also concluded its consideration of the appropriation bills 2025-26. The committee's consistent position since 2013 is that appropriation bills facilitate the taking of actions which may affect the progressive realisation of, or failure to fulfil, Australia's obligations under international human rights law. The committee therefore considers that allocation of funds via appropriation bills may engage human rights and considers that appropriation bills are susceptible to a human rights assessment. The committee has recommended that statements of compatibility prepared for future appropriation bills should contain an assessment of human rights compatibility. Such statements should address the overall trends in the progressive realisation of economic, social and cultural rights; the impact of budget measures on vulnerable groups; and key measures which engage human rights.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In this report the committee also sought additional information from the relevant minister in relation to the human rights compatibility of four new bills and is awaiting further response from the Minister for Home Affairs in relation to the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Amendment Bill (No. 2) 2025.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I encourage all members to consider the committee's report closely, and with these comments I commend the committee's scrutiny report No. 5 of 2025 to the House.</span>
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                <talker>
                  <page.no>2057</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Mascarenhas, Zaneta MP</name>
                  <name.id>298800</name.id>
                  <electorate>Swan</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
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    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>2058</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">BILLS</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>2058</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>2058</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2058</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Campbell, Julie-Ann MP</name>
                <name.id>312823</name.id>
                <electorate>Moreton</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CAMPBELL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moreton</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:20</span>):  The Bonded Medical Program provides Commonwealth supported places in a medical program in exchange for working in regional, rural and remote areas of Australia after graduation. That is because this is a Labor government that prioritises ensuring that there are incentives for medical practitioners and medical professionals to work in the bush. Currently, former Medical Rural Bonded Scholarship Scheme medical professionals who did not complete their service within the designated period are required to repay their scholarship and face a six-year Medicare ban. The amendments will ensure that the consequences of breaching the conditions or withdrawing from the program balance the personal circumstances of the participant with the broader interests of the community. Furthermore, all work completed by a participant in good faith and in relation to the program guidelines will count towards their return of service obligation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The six-year Medicare ban has a direct negative impact on the provision of services in regional, rural and remote communities—areas that are already the most impacted by workforce shortages. Such bans are not in the interest of either the community or individual medical professionals. The proposed amendments will extend the student's withdrawal period without penalty from the HECS census date in their second year of study until the award of their medical degree.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The measures included in this bill will ensure enhanced administration and delivery of the Medicare services that we all rely on each and every day. They are the behind-the-scenes fixes that form the foundation of Labor's commitment to strengthening Medicare. And the Albanese Labor government has made this a priority. The 2025-26 budget made the most significant investment in Medicare since its inception more than 40 years ago. Labor is continuing to back bulk-billing. From 1 November we are implementing an additional new 12.5 per cent payment—the Bulk Billing Practice Incentive Program—for practices that bulk-bill every patient. And we are working towards nine out of 10 GP visits being bulk-billed by 2030, with the number of fully bulk-billed practices nationally increasing to around 4,800. This $7.9 billion investment will result in 18 million more bulk-billed GP visits annually, saving Australian families $859 million every year. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Right at the start of this speech I mentioned urgent care clinics, and I'm constantly receiving feedback from my local community on how convenient these clinics are, saving people from long waits in hospital and from emergency departments—and of course they are fully bulk-billed. There are now 90 in operation across the country, with more on the way. When the rollout is complete, 80 per cent of Australians will live within a 20-minute drive of a clinic, and two million people are expected to use this service annually.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It would be easy to continue talking about Labor's commitment to strengthening Medicare and ensuring universal health care. And I could talk about how we are increasing support for public hospitals with an additional $1.8 billion of funding. Or I could mention wage increases in the care economy, such as $2.6 billion to increase pay for vital aged-care nurses. But I do see that I'm running out of time, and what you really need to know is that only Labor guarantees a future where your Medicare card and not your credit card gives you access to quality care every day and that Labor will always continue to increase and drive better access to Medicare.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2059</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Jordan-Baird, Alice MP</name>
                <name.id>316021</name.id>
                <electorate>Gorton</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms JORDAN-BAIRD</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Gorton</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:24</span>):  I rise to speak in support of the Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025, brought forward by the Minister for Health and Ageing, and I commend him for doing so. Health care is fundamental to the wellbeing of Australians, and Medicare is at the heart of our healthcare system. In 1984 the Hawke Labor government introduced Medicare, and in 2025 strengthening Medicare was the beating heart of our election campaign, because that's what good governments do: they invest in and protect our public healthcare system. I couldn't be prouder to stand in this chamber as part of the Albanese Labor government, legislating to protect and improve our healthcare system.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The amendments in this bill clean up technical issues, making things fairer and easier for our healthcare workers and supporting the growth of the health industry in Australia. The independently led Kruk review of health practitioner regulatory settings highlighted shortages in Australia's healthcare workforce, and these workforce shortages are significant. In the June quarter of 2023, 44 per cent of health professional vacancies were unfilled. An extra 13,000 medical practitioners, 40,000 nurses and 27,000 allied health professionals are likely to be needed by 2026. These workforce shortages exist in all Australian states and territories, and they are widespread across medicine, nursing, midwifery, and allied health professions, including dentistry, OT, physiotherapy, psychology and radiation therapy. Workforce shortages mean increased workloads for health practitioners, and, importantly, they mean Aussies having reduced access to care and poorer patient outcomes. Around 40 per cent of Australians wait at least 24 hours to see a GP for urgent care. Some six per cent of people wait longer than 365 days for elective surgery, with some waiting more than 500 days. When we don't have a strong and supported healthcare workforce, Aussies pay the price.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I've seen this firsthand in my electorate of Gorton, in Melbourne's west, one of the fastest-growing electorates in the country. There are over 47,000 families across the electorate, and new ones are created every day, with 10 babies a day born in the city of Melton alone. In so many ways, my electorate represents Australia as a whole, with its vitality, its rich cultural and linguistic make-up and its aspirations for the future. An electorate like mine—young, diverse and aspirational—has many needs that have yet to be met. One area that struggles to keep up is access to health services. Gorton residents experience significant disadvantage in accessing health services.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the city of Brimbank, a staggering 28 per cent of residents aged 18 and older have been diagnosed with two or more chronic diseases, conditions that need to be managed throughout their lives. I recently met with some residents at Wintringham in Delahey, in my electorate. This service provides quality care and accommodation to elderly men and women who are financially disadvantaged, homeless or at risk of homelessness. Wintringham residents are a fantastic group of people who have an op shop open every fortnight on a Tuesday. But many are burdened with a number of chronic diseases, which means they are constantly in and out of hospital, trying to navigate appointments, scans, specialists and outpatient care. I want to see better health outcomes for people in my community in Gorton like those Wintringham residents.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill, along with the suite of healthcare reforms introduced by the Albanese Labor government, is so important for my community in Melbourne's west and for all Australians. The proposed amendments in this bill will take significant steps towards modernising Medicare and simplifying bulk-billing and insurance rebates. Most importantly, they will break down barriers to accessing health care and to training and qualifying doctors. We built Medicare, and today we're here to strengthen Medicare.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The automation of Medicare provider numbers is just one of the measures we're taking to update and protect Medicare. This is about reducing unnecessary barriers to healthcare professionals practising and to bringing on more skilled health practitioners in Australia. Currently, Medicare provider numbers are allocated by the Chief Executive Medicare as one of their functions under the Human Services (Medicare) Act 1973. At the moment, the Chief Executive Medicare is unable to approve the use of computer programs to make appropriate non-discretionary decisions to allocate Medicare provider numbers. This bill will change that. This bill will streamline the application process for health practitioners, enabling them to receive a Medicare provider number quicker and provide healthcare services sooner.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is a technical change, but it's an important one. It takes between 10 and 15 years for a local GP to be fully trained. Internationally qualified health practitioners take 35 to 130 weeks to be ready to practise in Australia, nurses and midwives take up to 91 weeks and OTs take up to 135 weeks. When we need GPs in our hospitals and our clinics, we don't need qualified and trained GPs to be prevented from practising because of unnecessary wait times on Medicare provider numbers. The same goes for all healthcare professionals. We're doing everything we can to have more healthcare providers in our workforce and more health services in our health system, and that's what this bill is all about.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 2 to the bill, the amendments to chapters 2, 5 and 6 of the Private Health Insurance Act 2007, is about supporting the affordability of private health insurance and access to private healthcare services. The private health insurance rebate is an initiative designed to make private health insurance more affordable for Australians by funding part of their premiums. As a result of systems limitations, some elements of the registration and claims-processing system were being administered inconsistently with the requirements of the act, and these amendments will break down these unnecessary barriers. Again, we're talking about reducing barriers to more Australians accessing better care.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 3 to the bill allows regulations to be made to modernise assignments of the Medicare benefits process, the process that underpins Medicare bulk-billing. Last year, the Albanese Labor government passed legislation to modernise and simplify how patients assign their Medicare benefits. These changes recognise that patients and healthcare providers are no longer using paper based processes that existed when Medicare was first set up over 40 years ago. The amendments in this bill will build on these important changes, remedying legal and technical issues. This means that Labor's 2025 election commitment of providing $7.9 billion in bulk-billing incentives will not be adversely impacted by non-compliant business software. Modernising Medicare is just another step in our plan to protect and strengthen the vital healthcare system that Australians rely so heavily upon.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The final part of this bill, the amendment to the Health Insurance Act 1973, is about ensuring consistency for healthcare workers and protecting good faith in program activities. At the moment, former Medical Rural Bonded Scholarship Scheme participants who voluntarily opt in to the statutory program and who fail to complete their return-of-service obligation within the allowed 18-year period or withdraw from the program earlier face a six-year Medicare ban. Subjecting these doctors to a Medicare ban jeopardises continued service provision and access to care for Australians living in regional, rural and remote communities and in other areas of workforce shortages.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have a workforce shortage in Australia. My best friend, Dr Melanie Johnston, is a medical doctor working across multiple Melbourne hospitals. She has worked very hard to get where she is, and she is saving lives every single day. She often tells me about the extraordinary hours, hospital staff shortages and lack of specialists across the system, which lead to burn-out for so many. A six-year Medicare ban for bond doctors does not properly address the workforce shortage issue. In fact, it's reductive. A six-year Medicare ban is not in the interests of the individual bonded doctor, nor is it in the interests of the Australian community. Removing this ban will also ensure consistency for all bonded doctors when it comes to the consequences of breaching return-of-service obligations.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The proposed amendment will also extend the existing grace period from the HECS census date, meaning a student can withdraw from the bonded medical program without consequence at any time until they are awarded their medical degree. Removing the requirement for students who withdraw to repay the cost of their Commonwealth supported place under the program is a better fit, and it's recognising that the decision to withdraw is a difficult one, often reached because of challenging personal circumstances. The amendments aim to ensure the consequences of breaching a condition and/or withdrawal from the program fairly balance both the personal circumstances of the bonded participant and the broader interests of the community. It also allows for work completed by the bonded participant in good faith consistent with program objectives to be counted towards their return-of-service obligation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These legislative amendments build on a suite of other reforms Labor has introduced to strengthen Medicare and our healthcare workforce. We took health care to the election, and, across the board, we're legislating change. We're growing the health workforce to deliver more doctors and nurses than ever before, including the largest GP training program in Australian history and hundreds of scholarships for nurses and midwives to extend their skills and qualifications. This includes incentives like the Commonwealth prac payment, which means students on their mandatory nursing and midwifery placements will be paid for their work.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We are making the single largest investment in Medicare ever. That's delivering an additional 18 million bulk-billed GP visits every year so more Australians can see a bulk-billed GP. We're tripling the bulk-billing incentive for people who need to see their GP most often, helping pensioners, concession card holders and families with children. We have made it cheaper and easier to see a doctor, having restored bulk-billing for 11 million Australians and having created an additional six million bulk-billed GP visits. We've delivered the biggest-ever reduction in the cost of PBS prescriptions and frozen the cost of PBS medicines at just $25, the lowest it's been since 2004. We've made hundreds of medicines cheaper for Australians. We have been putting in the work to improve access to health care by expanding the availability of free Medicare urgent care across the country. I was lucky enough to open the 90th urgent care clinic in Melbourne's west with the Prime Minister and my friend the member for Fraser last month. But we are not stopping there. We've already opened 90 urgent care clinics right across the country and we've committed to another 50.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're investing landmark commitments in women's health. For too long, women's health issues have not been adequately addressed. We are working to reverse decades of neglect to women's health, with $570.3 million to deliver more choice, lower costs and better health care for women. We have opened 22 endometriosis and pelvic pain clinics and are opening another 11. Initiatives like these will see Australian women and their families saving thousands of dollars on health related costs across their lifetime.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're also backing men's health because for too long men's health and mental health in Australia have been overlooked. We have established and are expanding a network of Medicare mental health centres, helping Australians to have better access to mental health services. We're delivering $11.3 million for Movember to provide men's healthcare training to primary healthcare workers and to develop a campaign to encourage more men to visit the doctor. That's in addition to $20.7 million invested into grassroots initiatives that support men's mental health and wellbeing in community settings.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill is cleaning up largely technical issues, because clearing up details like this is really important. We're supporting simplified and streamlined billing for privately insured hospital systems so they do not have to deal with bills from multiple providers. We're clarifying wording to ensure that any eligible person covered under a private health insurance policy can assign their own Medicare benefits on behalf of the person in whose name the policy is held. The details are the difference between hospital staff spending unnecessary time on paperwork billing multiple providers and hospital staff spending time dedicated to their patients thanks to a streamlined billing system. It's the difference between bureaucratic delays and a patient having access to a doctor and receiving that treatment sooner. It's the difference between an outdated and inadequate healthcare system and one that better serves our diverse and wonderful Australian community—to support people like the Wintringham residents in Delahey, in my electorate, to support the doctors and healthcare workers like my best friend, Melanie, and to support families in my electorate and those right across the country. These amendments matter, and I commend the bill to the House.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2061</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">French, Tom MP</name>
                <name.id>316550</name.id>
                <electorate>Moore</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="316550" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FRENCH</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moore</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:38</span>):  When Australians talk about Medicare, they talk about fairness. They talk about the simple, powerful idea that your bank balance should not determine whether or not you can see a doctor. They talk about the dignity of knowing that, when you need care, the system is there for you. Australians are proud of Medicare, a system that Labor built and that Labor continues to defend and strengthen. That's exactly what the Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025 does. It strengthens Medicare, modernises the systems around it and makes sure Australians get care more quickly and fairly.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This legislation may sound technical, but it is about something very real. It is about whether a doctor can start work sooner. It's about whether billions of dollars in rebates are paid out lawfully and transparently. It's about whether bulk-billing continues to be the foundation of Medicare and whether doctors serving rural and outer suburban communities are treated fairly and whether their patients are treated fairly as well. This bill touches all of that. It has four big reforms: first, streamlining Medicare provider numbers; second, fixing cracks in the private health insurance rebate system; third, modernising the way patients assign Medicare benefits for bulk-billing; and, fourth, making the Bonded Medical Program fairer and stronger. I will deal with them in turn.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Right now, if a doctor finishes their training or a nurse practitioner moves to a new role, they have to apply for a Medicare provider number. That number is what lets them bill Medicare. Without it, they cannot provide subsidised care. The problem is that the system is slow, clunky and paper heavy. It means wait times for approval, it means health professionals sitting on the sidelines when they should be in clinics and it means patients waiting longer for appointments. This bill fixes that. It allows the Chief Executive Medicare to approve the use of computer programs to automatically issue provider numbers for straightforward cases. If you meet the criteria, the system issues the number—no delays, no unnecessary bottlenecks and no holding back the workforce when communities need them most. Where discretion is needed, humans stay in the loop. If a provider number is refused, that decision will still be made by a Services Australia officer. That is the right balance: automation where it makes sense and human oversight where it matters.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What does that mean for the electorate of Moore? It means doctors at the Joondalup Health Campus can start sooner. It means GPs in Currambine and Ocean Reef can open their doors to more patients without waiting weeks for the red tape to catch up. It means allied health workers can deliver to families in Padbury and Heathridge without needless delays. In a community like mine—growing fast and already feeling the pressure on health services—that makes a real difference.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The second reform is about the private health insurance rebate. Every year, the Commonwealth pays more than $7 billion to insurers on behalf of Australians. That is real money, month in and month out. But, for years, parts of the system have been run inconsistently with the law. That is a risk to the integrity of the scheme, and it is a risk to public trust. This bill closes those gaps. It brings the law into line with practice and makes payments lawful and accountable. It introduces a self-assessment model so insurers calculate their claims correctly. It requires them to provide evidence when asked. It gives the Chief Executive Medicare the power to modernise systems and approve forms, and it allows government to recover overpayments when mistakes happen. In other words, the billions that flow through this scheme will flow lawfully, fairly and transparently. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australians deserve to know that health rebates are handled properly, and taxpayers deserve to know that their dollars are being respected. We know what happens when integrity is ignored. We saw it in robodebt, where lives were shattered by a system designed to cut corners. We saw it when Scott Morrison secretly appointed himself to multiple ministries, keeping the truth from not only his colleagues but the public. That is what happens when governments treat accountability as optional. Labor takes the opposite view. Integrity is not optional. Transparency is not optional. And this bill proves it. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The third reform goes to the very heart of Medicare: bulk-billing. Bulk-billing works because patients assign their Medicare benefit to the doctor or the hospital that treated them. It is simple in principle, but the law underpinning it is outdated. It was written for a paper based system, and, in 2025, paper is the exception not the rule. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese government is delivering $7.9 billion in new bulk-billing incentives—the biggest boost in decades. But those incentives only work if the system is ready. Right now, many of the practices and software providers are not ready to implement assignment arrangements. If we stick to the old timeline, bulk-billing could be disrupted. This bill avoids that risk. It pushes the start date back from January 2026 to July 2026. That gives everyone time to prepare. In the meantime, bulk-billing continues. Extra incentives flow from November this year, and patients get the care they need without disruption.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In my electorate of Moore, bulk-billing is the difference between families in Beldon being able to take their kids to the doctor and families putting it off because of the cost. It is the difference between pensioners in Woodvale being able to see their GP and pensioners presenting at Joondalup hospital because they cannot afford it. Strengthening bulk-billing is not just good policy; it is a moral obligation, and that is what this bill helps deliver.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The fourth reform strengthens the Bonded Medical Program. This program exists to get more doctors into the areas that need them most—rural, regional and outer metropolitan communities. But, for too long, the penalties for doctors who left the program or failed to complete their obligations were blunt, unfair and counterproductive. Some doctors faced not just repaying their scholarship but also a six-year ban from Medicare. That does not punish just the doctor; it punishes the communities that are already struggling to recruit enough doctors. This bill removes the blunt ban. It makes sure that consequences are fair to the doctor and are also fair to the community. It allows all the work done in good faith to count towards the obligations, even if the work previously fell through the cracks. And doctors get a fair go when serving those communities. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This change matters. For the outer suburbs, where population growth is outpacing services, this change matters. And for the families in Carine and Mullaloo, who face longer waits for basic care, this change matters. For every community where recruiting doctors is a challenge, this change matters. Taken together, these reforms make our health system faster, fairer and stronger. They get doctors to patients sooner. They make sure that billions in rebates are paid lawfully and transparently. They strengthen bulk-billing—the backbone of Medicare—and make the Bonded Medical Program work better for both doctors and communities. We do not sit back and hope that the system fixes itself. We roll up our sleeves and we do the work. We modernise, we adapt and we prepare for the future.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The opposition had nine years in office. They had nine years to strengthen bulk-billing, nine years to fix rebates, nine years to support regional doctors and nine years to cut red tape, and they did none of it. They let bulk-billing rates fall. They let trust collapse. Why? Because secrecy suited them, because pretending was easier than governing, because spin was easier than substance.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor is different. We are delivering stronger Medicare, stronger bulk-billing and a health system that is fit for the future. We are building a system that is accountable, efficient and fair, a system that respects taxpayers, a system that respects patients and a system that respects the professionals who deliver care—a system built for the 21st century.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is not abstract for me. I know what it means to rely on the health system. I am here today because of a kidney transplant. I know the difference it makes when medicines are affordable and accessible. I know the difference it makes when hospitals have the staff they need. And I know the difference it makes when governments take health care seriously. That is why I am proud to support this bill. It's not about lines in legislation; it's about lives in our communities. It's about whether families in Moore can see a doctor. It's about whether young doctors are treated fairly. It's about whether the system works for people, not against them.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Health is about trust. It's about trust that, when you need care, you will get it. It's about trust that the system is fair, efficient and accountable. It's about trust that governments will do the hard work, not just talk about it. This bill delivers on that trust. It strengthens Medicare, it makes bulk-billing stronger, it makes programs fairer, it makes the system faster and it makes it work for the people. That is what Labor governments do. We build, we strengthen, we deliver. The opposition can keep complaining and they can keep pretending, but Labor is doing the work. Labor is delivering for Moore; Labor is delivering for Australia. That is why I commend this bill to the House.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2063</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Stanley, Anne MP</name>
                <name.id>265990</name.id>
                <electorate>Werriwa</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms STANLEY</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Werriwa</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:51</span>):  I rise to make my contribution to the Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025. The bill seeks to accomplish a wide range of outcomes. It supports the automation of Medicare provider numbers. It realigns the registration and claim-processing system for private health insurance rebates. It modernises the assignment of Medicare benefits for bulked-billed and simplified billing. It ensures the consequences of breaching a condition and/or withdrawal from the Bonded Medical Program are fairly balanced. And it allows all work completed by a Bonded Medical Program participant in good faith, consistent with the program's objectives, to be counted towards their return-of-service obligation. The bill addresses several matters that will ensure better administration and delivery of key government systems and programs.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Firstly, the bill supports recommendation 2 of the independent review of Australia's regulatory settings relating to overseas health practitioners, which is to automate and streamline the issuance of Medicare provider numbers. It will amend the Health Insurance Act 1973 to establish the function of allocating Medicare numbers in the Health Insurance Act. It also establishes a power for the Chief Executive Medicare to approve computer programs to issue Medicare provider numbers. The bill will validate Medicare provider numbers previously issued by automation and any that were declined. Medicare provider numbers are currently allocated by the Chief Executive Medicare as one of their functions under the Human Services (Medicare) Act 1973. Amendments made by the bill will enable the Chief Executive Medicare to approve the use of a computer program to make appropriate non-discretionary decisions to allocate provider numbers. Any decision to refuse a provider number would not be made by the computer program but be reviewed by a human service officer working at Services Australia. The bill will validate Medicare provider numbers that were previously issued by computer programs operated by Services Australia or by its predecessor, the Department of Human Services. The bill will also streamline the application processes for health practitioners, enabling them to receive a Medicare provider number more quickly and start providing health services sooner. The delegated legislation will map out the criteria that must be met in order for a Medicare provider number to be allocated by the use of a computer program to different classes of health professionals and any required transitional rules.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Secondly, the Australian government reimburses private health insurers for the portion of health insurance premiums that are reduced on behalf of the consumer for the private health insurance rebate under the premiums reduction scheme. Rebate payments in excess of $7 billion per year are paid in this manner. Services Australia and the Department of Health, Disability and Ageing became aware that some elements of the registration and claims processing system for the scheme had been administered inconsistently with the requirements of the Private Health Insurance Act 2007 since its introduction. That's why this bill will amend the Private Health Insurance Act 2007 to support the operation of the registration and claims system. This will be done through the introduction of a self-assessment model for claims by insurers for reimbursement of the rebate. The amendments will have a few effects. They streamline the registration requirement for individual participants to align with the current system requirements. They will introduce automated decision-making powers for the Chief Executive Medicare to administer scheme registrations and claims. They will ensure any overpayments can be recovered where there are unintended system or process defects. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are other amendments to support these changes, including requiring the insurer to correctly calculate their claim and provide supporting information or documents on request and allowing the Chief Executive Medicare to approve forms for use under the program. These amendments will support the objective of the premiums reduction scheme and ensure persons are validly registered as participants and that the payment of the rebate to insurers is lawful. The rebate supports the affordability of private health insurance and access to private healthcare services for participants. The delegated legislation will allow the minister to specify criteria that must be met in order for the Chief Executive Medicare to register a participant in the scheme and pay the claim. This is because the current system can conduct only a limited number of checks. The criteria can be updated if the system is updated in the future to conduct a wider range of checks. The minister will also be able to change the period which the Chief Executive Medicare takes to refuse a registration if the proposed timeframe does not work as intended. Currently, administratively it allows for 90 days, but this will be reduced to 30 days to provide the applicant with certainty sooner. Additionally, the minister will be allowed to include additional decisions in the Private Health Insurance Act that are considered appropriate to be undertaken using automated administrative action. This provides allowance for future system upgrades when it may be possible to automate other actions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Thirdly, the bill amends the Health Insurance Act to remedy identified legal issues and to delay commencement of changes introduced by the Health Insurance Legislation Amendment (Assignment of Medicare Benefits) Act 2024. Assignment of benefits is a longstanding requirement of the Health Insurance Act. It provides the basis for government paying Medicare benefits when the patient assigns their right to a Medicare benefit to a medical provider, private health insurer or approved billing agent. The government's Health Insurance Legislation Amendment (Assignment of Medicare Benefits) Act responds to the payment authority integrity risks by streamlining the assignment process for patients, medical providers, private health insurers and approved billing agents and enabling digital assignment options. This is rather than the paper based processes currently envisioned in the Health Insurance Act. This bill supports modernising the assignment of Medicare benefits by addressing limitations of the assignment of Medicare benefits act, the Health Insurance Act and supporting regulations. The ability for a patient to assign their Medicare benefits underpins bulk-billing. The bill will delay commencement of schedule 1 of the assignment of Medicare benefits act, which is due to commence on 9 January 2026. Deferring it to 1 July 2026 will support the industry and consumers to comply with new assignment-of-benefits requirements, particularly where this will occur through private sector software which must be updated to reflect the new assignment-of-benefits processes.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the meantime bulk-billing can continue under current processes and arrangements. This will include additional incentives for bulk-billed services which start from 1 November this year in line with the government's election commitment. The government has committed $14.2 billion in 2025-26 to fund the implementation of reforms outlined in the assignment of Medicare benefits act and subordinate regulations. This includes updates to Services Australia software systems and education and communication activities to ensure stakeholders are aware of and prepared for the new digital assignment arrangements. Passage of this bill will ensure that the government's 2025 election commitment of $7.9 billion in bulk-billing incentive payments to encourage increased bulk-billing rates will not be adversely impacted by non-compliant business software. The minister will have the power to create an instrument which categorises existing Medicare Benefits Schedule services. The intended use is in bulk-billing assignment agreements. This information will be shown as a basic service description to assigners when seeking their agreement to assign benefits before services are provided and before the exact Medicare benefit amount to assign is known.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Fourthly, the bill will amend the Health Insurance Act 1973 to enhance the Bonded Medical Program. This will ensure the consequences of breaching a condition or withdrawal from the program fairly balance both the personal circumstances of the bonded participant and the broader interests of the community. It will also allow all work completed by the bonded participant in good faith and consistent with the program objectives to be counted towards their return-of-service obligation. Currently, former Medical Rural Bonded Scholarship Scheme participants who voluntarily opted in to the statutory program who failed to complete their return-of-service obligation within the allowed 18-year period or withdrew from the program earlier face repayment of their scholarship and a six-year Medicare ban. While this financial penalty is appropriate, subjecting these doctors to a Medicare ban, which will occur for some starting December 2025, will jeopardise continued service provision and access to care for Australians living in rural, regional and remote communities and perhaps in other areas of workforce shortages. Given broader workforce shortages, a six-year Medicare ban is not in the interests of either the individual bonded doctor or the Australian community.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Removing the ban will also ensure that the consequences of breaching the return-of-service obligation are more consistent for all bonded doctors. Students can currently withdraw from the program without consequences up to the HECS census date in their second year of study. If the student withdraws after that date, they incur a debt to the Commonwealth equal to the full cost of the Commonwealth supported place up to the date of withdrawal. This is in addition to their HECS or HELP liability. The proposed amendment will extend the existing grace period from the HECS census date in the second year of study to the award of a medical degree.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill will provide the Minister for Health and Ageing with the capacity to make additional rules to recognise work completed by bonded participants as part of their return-of-service obligation where this is consistent with the program objectives, including work completed prior to transitioning to the statutory Bonded Medical Program. Examples of work that cannot presently be recognised include work undertaken under legacy schemes that is or may become eligible under the program as well as work undertaken in locations erroneously advised by the government as eligible.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese Labor government continues to build and strengthen our healthcare sector. This legislation is an important step to protect health care and Medicare into the future. I commend the bill to the House.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2065</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Smith, Matt MP</name>
                <name.id>312393</name.id>
                <electorate>Leichhardt</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr MATT SMITH</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Leichhardt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:03</span>):  I rise to speak on the Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025. Once again we are here discussing how good Labor is for the Australian health system. This bill will help deliver a list of technical changes that will overall ensure better administration and delivery of key government systems and programs. This will include supporting the automation of Medicare provider numbers; modernising the assignment of Medicare benefits, bulk-billing and simplified billing; and ensuring the consequences of breaching a condition and/or withdrawal from the Bonded Medical Program are fairly balanced. All of these changes will build towards a better administrated and more efficient public health system. It's a win for the Australian public and a win for medical professionals. It is a good change, with our government committed to delivering better health care to Australians.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese Labor government is strengthening Medicare right across the board, with more doctors, more urgent care clinics and cheaper medicines. We are making the largest investment in Medicare since its creation over 40 years ago. And I'll just remind everyone—just in case you haven't heard—Labor built Medicare, and we will always protect it. I'd like to take out my Medicare card and wave it, but I don't feel like testing that boundary today! </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our government is investing $8.5 billion to deliver an additional 18 million bulk-billed GP visits each year, hundreds of nursing scholarships and thousands more doctors in the largest GP training program ever. Australian patients and families will save hundreds of dollars in out-of-pocket costs, with patient savings of up to $859 million a year by 2030. We are expanding bulk-billing incentives to all Australians for the first time and boosting Medicare payments to general practices that bulk-bill every patient. This means nine out of 10 GP visits will be bulk-billed by 2030. We expect it to boost the number of fully bulk-billed practices to around 4,800 nationally—triple the current number of practices. That's why the Anthony Albanese government is tripling the bulk-billing incentive from 1 November—to get more people involved. Nine out of 10 is 90 per cent. It is a worthy aspiration and something we are going to deliver.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We also know that primary health care is important, and that's why we funded more bulk-billing and are delivering local Medicare urgent care clinics. The Medicare urgent care clinic model is simple: provide bulk-billing care for urgent, non-threatening conditions—kid rolls an ankle, falls off a skateboard or gets bitten by a dog, or you cut yourself shaving. They're open seven days a week with extended hours, with no appointment needed. The Albanese government has now opened over 90 Medicare urgent care clinics across the country, with more than 1.8 million Australians receiving treatment. Medicare urgent care clinics are taking the pressure off hospitals. It means hospitals can spend more time on the life-threatening emergencies they were built for, and it means patients can get in, get out and get back home, where they want to be. During the election, we committed to deliver 15 new Medicare urgent care clinics right across the country. Once all of Labor's Medicare urgent care clinics are open, four in five Australians will live within a 20-minute drive of an urgent care clinic. And all you will need is your Medicare card, never your credit card.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In Queensland, there have been more than 367,000 presentations. One of the busiest is the Cairns South Medicare urgent care clinic, located in the suburb of Edmonton. That's why, during the election, we committed to increase the resources of the Cairns South Medicare urgent care clinic and deliver a Medicare urgent care clinic for the northern parts of Cairns. The north of Cairns gets cut off during the wet season. During Cyclone Jasper, the Northern Beaches would have been unable to get any form of medical attention. This urgent care clinic will resolve that problem. I'm happy to announce the tender is now open, and very soon we'll be able to deliver that for the people of Cairns.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We've also delivered cheaper medicines. Labor has passed laws to cut the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme co-payment from $31.60 to $25 from 1 January next year, delivering on another of our election commitments. The last time PBS medicines cost no more than $25 was in 2004. That's more than 20 years ago. This is being delivered to ease another key cost-of-living pressure. Having already slashed the cost of medicine by the largest amount in the history of the PBS, we will now go even further, with a more than 20 per cent cut to the maximum cost of PBS medicines, which will save Australians over $200 million a year. Making medicines cheaper is a tangible way we are improving people's lives. You should never have to choose between medicine and a meal.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Four out of five of these medicines will become cheaper because of this investment. Pensioners and concession card holders will continue to benefit from the freeze on the cost of their PBS medicines, with the cost frozen at its current level of $7.70 until 2030. This is just the latest step in our ambition to deliver cheaper medicines for Australians. The Albanese Labor government has already delivered more free and cheaper medicines sooner, with a 25 per cent reduction in the number of scripts a concessional patient must fill before they hit the PBS safety net. That's the largest cut to the cost of medicines in the history of the PBS, with the maximum cost falling from $42 to $30. There are 60-day prescriptions, saving time and money for millions of Australians. Those are very important in an electorate like mine. If you live on the stations or in one of the communities and the nearest pharmacy is a three-hour drive away, you want to go in every two months rather than every fortnight. Cheaper medicines are good for the hip pocket and good for your health. If you don't believe me, I can tell you that, in Queensland, more than $330 million has been saved on 55 million cheaper scripts. Is it any surprise the Australian public have always supported and loved Medicare? Yet we're delivering more.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Anthony Albanese Labor government is delivering more, lower cost and better health care for women and girls. We know that women too often experience delayed diagnosis for conditions, from endometriosis to heart disease. Their pain is dismissed. They struggle with issues such as unplanned pregnancies, menopause and miscarriage. The medical fraternity—and it quite often is a fraternity—has often gaslit women, not taking their medical conditions seriously. The Anthony Albanese government seeks to change that. It has listened and announced half a billion dollars in new investments for women for right across their entire lifespan.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Hundreds of thousands of Australian women are now accessing cheaper medicines and better health care due to our government's commitments. This includes the first PBS listing of new oral contraceptive pills in more than 30 years with the listing of Yaz, Yasmin and Slinda, saving 150,000 women hundreds of dollars a year. There is more choice, lower cost and better access to long-term contraceptives, with larger Medicare payments and more bulk-billing for IUDs and birth control implants, saving around 300,000 women a year up to $400 out of pocket. There is more Medicare support for women experiencing menopause, with the new Medicare rebate for menopause health assessments, funding to train health professionals, the first-ever clinical guidelines and a national awareness campaign. There is the first PBS listing for new menopausal hormone therapies in over 20 years, with around 150,000 women saving hundreds of dollars a year from the listings of Prometrium, Estrogel and Estrogel Pro.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are more endo and pelvic pain clinics treating more conditions. We're opening 11 new clinics and ensuring all 33 clinics are staffed to provide specialist support for menopause. There are new endo treatment options as well, including the PBS listing of Ryeqo. There are contraceptives and treatment for uncomplicated UTIs from pharmacies, with two national trials to benefit 250,000 concession card holders, who will be able to consult a trained pharmacist at no cost. If medications are required, they pay only the usual medicine cost. Australian women undergoing IVF will receive earlier and more affordable access to fertility treatment, with Pergoveris pens added onto the PBS and the maximum number of pens increased to four instead of two per script. This is a massive and much-needed investment to ensure Australian women can access the health care they need.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Those are the facts—a list of what's going on. But it doesn't talk about the investment in Medicare and what that means to the people of Leichhardt, what that means to my own family and what that means to millions of families around Australia. My children were born in the public hospital, both of them. A midwife came and checked on us. It was all free of charge. My friend Dr Steve Sutcliffe is a cardiologist. He refuses to work in private practice; he'll only work in public. He travels the cape. He diagnoses and treats RHD, a disease that has no place in modern Australia yet is prevalent throughout our Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities in Far North Queensland. None of those people have access to private medicine. They are wholly reliant on Medicare and on people like my friend Dr Steve.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">From my own personal experience, having lived in a place where there is no public health care, I can say that a shoulder reconstruction costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. The plastic surgery to reattach my lip was $70,000 or $80,000. In Australia, I had a stroke. I spent three days in hospital. I came home with just my Medicare card. These are tangible differences. This is what makes Australia great—the socialisation, the Medicare system that gives us bulk-billing and gives us the confidence to go to a hospital, not worry about that insurance payment and get the medicine that we need to get back home and live our lives. It is one of the great and enduring parts of Australian culture. It was built by Labor. It is protected by Labor. It is expanded by Labor.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These changes might seem technical and small in nature, but they streamline a system that makes a difference every single day to every single Australian. We know that there's more work to be done, and I know that, as a government, we will always put the health of Australians first, because it is the most important thing that you have. Without your health, you have nothing else. And the Anthony Albanese Labor government will ensure that Australia has its health.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2066</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">White, Rebecca MP</name>
                <name.id>224102</name.id>
                <electorate>Lyons</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="224102" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms WHITE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lyons</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Women, Assistant Minister for Health and Aged Care and Assistant Minister for Indigenous Health</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:14</span>):  First, I thank all members for their contributions to the debate on this bill. The Health Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025 does streamline Medicare provider number administrative processes so that health practitioners receive their Medicare provider number sooner. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 1 of this bill will amend the Health Insurance Act 1973 to enable the Chief Executive Medicare to approve the use of a computer program to make decisions to allow Medicare provider numbers, including validating Medicare provider numbers that were previously issued by a computer program. This will only apply to positive decisions to issue a Medicare provider number, and any decision requiring assessment of a discretionary factor will still be mainly processed by a service officer. Schedule 1 also confirms that any Medicare provider numbers issued by automation remain valid so there is no impact on health practitioners or their patients for services previously provided. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our government is committed to ensuring that there is a sufficient and sustainable health workforce to meet the healthcare needs of Australians. The Australian government, together with state and territory governments, has committed to implementing all health related recommendations from the independent review of Australia's regulatory settings relating to overseas health practitioners. This will help to ease the shortage in the health workforce by removing unnecessary barriers and improving and expediting regulatory processes for more overseas health practitioners to commence working in the Australian health system sooner. This bill supports a key recommendation from the review to automate the issuance of Medicare provider numbers. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 1 also confirms the conditions that applicants must meet to be issued an MPN, ensuring the highest standards of healthcare provision are maintained. I would like to let the House know that Services Australia, the Department of Social Services and the Department of Veterans' Affairs were consulted as part of the drafting of the bill and support this streamlining process. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 2 of the bill amends the Private Health Insurance Act 2007. This is to support processes for claiming the private health insurance rebate upfront through the premium reduction scheme. The self-assessment process will be supported by postpayment compliance activities. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 3 of the bill makes changes to the Health Insurance Act 1973 and Health Insurance Legislation Amendment (Assignment of Medicare Benefits) Act 2024 to allow finalisation of regulations to modernise and digitise the assignment of Medicare benefits and to delay commencement of the new processes from 9 January 2026 to 1 July 2026 to provide industry more time to ensure the necessary software and system changes can be made.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For simplified billing, the bill enables any eligible person covered by a private health insurance policy to assign Medicare benefits and reduces the administrative burden on providers of privately insured services associated with mandatory notification, without reducing patient access to this information. For bulk-billing, the bill will enable the completion of regulations for enduring agreements to complement the government's primary care payment reforms, such as MyMedicare. It also provides for a new legislative instrument to be delegated to the Minister for Health and Ageing and Minister for Disability and the National Disability Insurance Scheme to make service information simpler for patients and to inform an assignment decision. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Amending the commencement date to 1 July 2026 will be welcomed by stakeholders, who will now have additional time to adopt modern and simplified assignments that benefit the processes, including through updating their software products which are used to manage clinical businesses. Modernising, simplifying and making assignment of benefit easier for patients and providers will strengthen Medicare now and into the future. I think it's important to note some of those timelines included in this particular bill and the importance of progressing this legislation. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 4 of the bill amends part VD of the Health Insurance Act 1973 to enhance elements of the Bonded Medical Program. I would like to acknowledge the questions that were put by the member for Nicholls in his contribution, and I provide some answers to those questions that I hope will provide further information. The bill ensures consequences for breaching a condition or for withdrawing from the program and balances the personal circumstances of the bonded participant with the broader interests of the community. There were questions around further clarification of what this means. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We know that, due to the specialisation of some doctors, there is a risk they have breached and, as a consequence, have a ban of six years from billing under Medicare. This is bad not only for them but for patients who might be in need of services that they have been providing, so we are removing this consequence. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We also know that currently, if a medical student withdraws before the census date in their second year, they avoid any debt. What we intend to do, if this bill successfully passes, is to extend that grace period, which would mean that any withdrawal after this date—the census date in year 2 of their medical degree—up until they finish would be regarded as within the period where, if they incurred a debt, it could be waived.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have circumstances where somebody hasn't completed their medical degree but, under this program, they have a debt raised against them, which could be between $100,000 and $140,000, that they've been asked to repay. This change recognises that, if a student hasn't completed their degree, they shouldn't be required to pay this debt, and this is due to the acknowledgement that personal circumstances change. There might be a person who is 17 or 18 and commits to a medical degree. They might be embarking on a bonded medical program, thinking that they could continue to complete that degree at that placement, and circumstances change for them. I can update the House and let you know that the cohort is very small with regard to the types of medical students we're talking about here who don't complete their degrees. However, the impact on them is enormous when they are faced with a student debt of $100,000 or more and they have no qualification to show for it. So we propose this amendment through this legislation to ensure this is fairer.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There were questions raised by the member for Nicholls about concerns that doctors won't have to work for as long in rural areas under the changes proposed. This amendment bill aims to simplify the Bonded Medical Program. The department administers, I understand, about 36 different contracts and different contract types due to the legacy schemes for bonded medical students across a range of different schemes over the last couple of decades. For example, there was a legacy scheme that ran between the years of 2016 and 2019 or thereabouts wherein there was only a need to do one year of a rural placement as part of the return-of-service obligation. What we are doing here is acknowledging that there are different lengths of time. We are trying to simplify and also be consistent, with a three-year requirement for the return-of-service obligation for those medical students. The explanatory memorandum, in 'Part 3—Bonded Medical Program rules', does explain in detail the reason for this change, which is about more fairly recognising work completed by bonded participants, and I draw the member's attention to that section of the explanatory memorandum.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As the member for Macarthur spoke about in his contribution, these changes to the Bonded Medical Program will make it more flexible and aid any uptake of rural bonded scholarships as an option for medical students. We understand that there isn't as great an uptake as we would like of the rural bonded medical program because there is an inflexibility to the scheme, which we are seeking to address through making these changes which provide for greater consistency and simplification.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our government is very committed to providing greater access to health services and health care for all Australians, no matter where they live. As a member who also represents a regional electorate, I can empathise with the concerns that were raised by the member for Nicholls and appreciate his interest in ensuring that we provide access to health care to Australians no matter where they live. He will be very pleased to know that, alongside the good work of the Murray-Darling medical school that he spoke about, our government has also seen an increase in the number of medical students studying right around the country.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Since 2022 the government has invested in over 140 new medical Commonwealth supported places, with a focus on training in rural communities. In 2022 we had 3,095 commenced CSPs; we are looking to increase that to 3,450 by 2028. We've had 80 new commencing CSPs per year and funding for end-to-end rural medical training across six medical schools; 20 new commencing CSPs per year and funding for James Cook University's Cairns medical school; and 40 new commencing CSPs per year and $27.4 million in funding to establish the Charles Darwin University medical school. And, in the 2025-26 budget, the Australian government committed a further $48.4 million for up to 150 new primary care focused medical student places as one element of our $606 million GP workforce package. There are also the 100 CSPs currently out for tender now that we heard the Minister for Health and Ageing speak about in question time today. They'll be distributed by a competitive process for universities with existing medical schools, and a further 50 new commencing CSPs per year will be on offer from 2028 and open to universities that do not currently possess a medical school.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We also made two commitments in the 2025 federal election to support up to 68 additional medical places at the University of Tasmania and Queensland University of Technology by converting some of their non-medical CSPs. The University of Tasmania will be allowed to provide 20 commencing medical places based in Launceston from 2026, and Queensland University of Technology will be allowed to provide 48 commencing places from 2027, subject to AMC accreditation of its proposed medical school. We are training more doctors than we have ever before. There are record numbers this year compared to last year, and we are hopeful that next year we will see an intake that is even greater than the record numbers we've seen this year. Our government is very committed to training more health professionals, including more doctors; to providing more bulk-billing and more access to urgent care clinics; and, of course, to providing cheaper medicines to Australians.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I understand that the department has offered a briefing to members opposite to support them in getting more information about the Bonded Medical Program. I hope this provides them with further answers to the questions that were raised so that we can have the support of this parliament for this bill. There are some key dates that we need to address so that we can commence this to alleviate some of the pressure on medical students or those who have started a medical degree but haven't finished and have a debt raised against them, not only to streamline and simplify the processes for those who are in the Bonded Medical Program but also to deal with some of those other bulk-billing matters by the automation of some of our systems. That will allow more time for our general practitioners to have the software in place so that they can commence appropriately from the middle of next year, rather than the start of next year, which is what the timeline currently allows for. This bill would give them more time, and I would expect and hope that all members of this parliament would be endeavouring to support our GPs and GP practices so that they can take full advantage of bulk-billing provisions to support patients across the country.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I thank everyone who made a contribution to this bill. It is clear how important affordable access to health care is right across this country, and it was reflected in all of the contributions on this bill. Our government is working very hard to deliver on our commitment to strengthen Medicare, and this bill is another step in that endeavour. I thank members for their contributions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a second time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Message from the Governor-General recommending appropriation announced.</span>
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          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Third Reading</title>
            <page.no>2069</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Third Reading</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2069</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">White, Rebecca MP</name>
                <name.id>224102</name.id>
                <electorate>Lyons</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="224102" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms WHITE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lyons</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Women, Assistant Minister for Health and Aged Care and Assistant Minister for Indigenous Health</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:28</span>):  by leave—I move:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a third time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a third time.</span>
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          <title>Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>2069</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>2069</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2069</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Leeser, Julian MP</name>
                <name.id>109556</name.id>
                <electorate>Berowra</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                    <a href="109556" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LEESER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Berowra</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:29</span>):  The Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025 amends the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979, the Surveillance Devices Act 2004 and the Crimes Act 1914 to ensure key provisions operate as intended. It also makes technical amendments flowing from the government's decision to reconstitute the Home Affairs portfolio following the federal election.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 1 to the bill permits protected network activity warrant and warrant intercept information to be used, communicated and recorded to meet disclosure obligations. It also allows the information to be admitted in evidence where necessary to ensure the defensible prosecution of criminal activity while retaining the intelligence-only purpose of network activity warrants.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 2 amends the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 to transfer the statutory functions of the Communications Access Coordinator from the Secretary of the Attorney-General's Department to the Secretary of the Department of Home Affairs. This change is only necessary because the Albanese Labor government dismantled the Home Affairs portfolio after the 2022 election. Following the 2025 election the Albanese Labor government restored the Home Affairs portfolio to the original structure established under the coalition by returning the Australian Federal Police, the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission and the Australian Transaction Reports and Analysis Centre to the Home Affairs portfolio. This came after the coalition took this commitment to the election while Labor made no such commitment. The decision to reconstitute the Home Affairs portfolio following the election and the Prime Minister's election acknowledgement that there were issues with information-sharing during the Dural caravan incident are an admission that the national security architecture he put in place failed at a critical time. The government should apologise for putting party politics over Australia's national security by changing the Home Affairs portfolio three times in three years in a pointless, factional tug-of-war.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 3 amends the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 to permit limited access to stored communications to allow agencies to undertake development and testing activities in circumstances where they otherwise would have been authorised to intercept the same communication if it were still passing over the telecommunication system. These changes will ensure the framework remains fit for purpose in the modern operating environment where stored communications may pass over the telecommunication system alongside and become indistinguishable from live communications.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 4 corrects a technical issue with the operation of interception international production orders in the T(IA) Act that was preventing international production orders from being given to US based prescribed communication providers in certain circumstances under the agreement between the government of Australia and the government of the United States of America on access to electronic data for the purpose of countering serious crime. The amendments clarify that interception orders issued to Australian law enforcement and national security agencies may be used to obtain prospective content data from communications providers in a country with which Australia has a designated international agreement regardless of the technical method by which that prospective data is sent to the agency.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 5 amends the Crimes Act to clarify the threshold for authorising and varying controlled operations in the circumstances in which a participant is protected from criminal responsibility and indemnified against civil liability. The anonymous nature of online crime means law enforcement may lack information to assess potential risks when deciding whether to authorise or vary a controlled operation. The amendments will clarify that authorising officers must consider the indirect and reasonable foreseeable consequences of controlled conduct when varying a controlled operation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 5 also provides clarity around legal protections for officers involved in undercover operations targeted at taking down sexual abuse syndicates. In the 2024-25 financial year the Australian Centre to Counter Child Exploitation's Child Protection Triage Unit received 82,764 reports of online child sexual exploitation. I just want to underscore that by saying it again. The ACCCE received 82,764 reports of online sexual exploitation in a single year. That equates to an average of 226 reports per day. The need for strong action against these predators has never been more acute. These amendments ensure the law is fit for purpose in addressing the most abhorrent online crimes where the persons under investigation are anonymised, including on the dark web and encrypted communications platforms.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The changes in the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill provide essential clarifications to ensure that the agencies that keep our nation safe can continue to do so in an era of rapid technological development. The coalition will always support sensible reforms which ensure that the men and women serving in intelligence and law enforcement roles have the tools they need to take down criminals no matter where they are hiding. We will be supporting this bill without amendment.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2070</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Clutterham, Claire MP</name>
                <name.id>316101</name.id>
                <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
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                    <a href="316101" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CLUTTERHAM</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Sturt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:35</span>):  I wish to begin this speech by acknowledging the outstanding work of the individual Australians who work for our security agencies. Often faced with challenging, complex and disturbing situations, these Australians turn up to work every day in order to serve their fellow countrymen and countrywomen by taking steps to keep us safe, to investigate matters and to ensure that perpetrators of horrific offences can be brought to justice and that the victims of these offences feel heard and can try to move forward with their lives in the knowledge that action is being taken to prevent the same things happening to others.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill, the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025, sets forth a number of very technical amendments that recognise that we are in an era of rapid and constantly changing and evolving technological and cyber development and that law enforcement agencies are being expected to operate in this challenging environment whilst remaining charged with the very serious obligation to protect Australians. More specifically, this bill makes technical amendments to the Surveillance Devices Act 2004, the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 and the Crimes Act 1914. These amendments are required to clarify or correct provisions in Australia's electronic surveillance and law enforcement frameworks, particularly when they have been rendered less effective due to technological change. The amendments are set out in the various schedules to the bill.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Firstly, schedule 1 sets out the proposed amendments to the Surveillance Devices Act 2004 and the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979. The amendments have the effect of enabling agencies and prosecutors to disclose information obtained under network activity warrants for the purposes of complying with their disclosure obligations in a prosecution for a relevant offence. For clarity, network activity warrants are used for the collection of intelligence that relates to criminal networks operating online. Without these amendments, the current disclosure arrangements would remain in place. This current regime prohibits disclosure of information obtained pursuant to a network activity warrant, which not only limits the prosecution but presents an access-to-justice issue in that individuals may be denied the opportunity to receive a fair trial. This is because those individuals in relation to whom information is obtained pursuant to a network activity warrant do not currently have access to it, which is unfair if the evidence and information obtained through these warrants may assist those people in their own defence. So these changes promote the Commonwealth's compliance with the duty of disclosure that it owes to courts in relation to network activity warrant information. Quite understandably and quite rightly, disclosure of this information will remain limited and subject to strict safeguards, but these amendments deliver the required clarity so that the Commonwealth can provide necessary information to facilitate the defensible prosecution of serious criminal activity.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Then we have the amendments set out in schedule 2, which relate to the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979. This amendment seeks to transfer the regulatory role of the Communications Access Coordinator from the Secretary of the Attorney-General's Department to the Secretary of the Department of Home Affairs. It does this to reflect postelection machinery-of-government changes. The Communications Access Coordinator is responsible for liaising between state and Commonwealth security and law enforcement agencies, the Commonwealth telecommunications regulator and the telecommunications industry. It is a function that also supports industry to understand and comply with relevant interception capability obligations under the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Moving to schedule 3, these amendments are technical in nature and apply to that same act to ensure that the framework for testing and developing technologies and interception capabilities can operate in the manner that parliament intended. They are designed to ensure that appropriate safeguards are in place to facilitate the proper development and testing of new capabilities by intelligence and law enforcement agencies. Specifically, the Attorney-General will be empowered to authorise agencies to access communications that are stored in like circumstances where they would have been authorised to intercept these communications when they were live, but only for the purpose of developing and testing technologies and interception capabilities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The difference this amendment makes is that currently only live communications can be used by agencies for testing and development purposes. Stored communications may pass over the telecommunications system alongside live communications. At the point of interception, these stored communications are indistinguishable from live communications—for example, when emails are synced between two devices at the same time as messages are being transmitted between them.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This crossover is occurring because technological advancements are facilitating it. That being the case in these circumstances, and because of this indistinguishability, access to stored communications cannot be avoided. That is why agencies require authorisation to access both live communications and stored communications for testing and development purposes. Stored communications that are accessed for this purpose will follow authorisation from the Attorney-General and can be used only for that purpose and for no other purpose. Importantly, they cannot be used for intelligence purposes, investigative purposes or anything else. As for this ring fenced purpose, stored communications that are accessed pursuant to this schedule 3 amendment will be treated no differently to live communications.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Moving to schedule 4 to the bill, this schedule operates to amend the international production order framework in the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979, with the motivation for the amendment being to give effect to the original intent of this regime. The international production order framework in that act is found in schedule 1. It is a framework that permits Australia to enter into agreements with other countries to share electronic information for the purposes of countering serious crime. An example is the Australia-US data access agreement signed in 2021, which facilitates Australian and United States law enforcement and national security agencies to obtain orders for data held by communication service providers in the partner nation without the need for separate review and authorisation. These arrangements operate to improve the overall effectiveness of Australian and United States investigations and prosecutions of serious crimes.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">An international production order can be issued for the purpose of enforcing criminal law to monitor persons subject to supervisory orders and for national security reasons. Information that is covered by an international production order includes live and stored communications and telecommunications data. Examples include files uploaded to a storage or backup service, emails and chat history, in addition to the related information to those communications.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">International production orders are an important tool in the toolbox that Australia has at its disposal to prosecute serious crimes. The amendments proposed by schedule 4 to this bill will provide certainty that interception orders issued to Australian law enforcement and national security agencies may be used to obtain prospective content data from communications providers in a country with which Australia has a designated international agreement, regardless of the technical method by which that prospective data is sent to the agency. In plain language, these amendments will make the international production order regime more technology neutral, ensuring that Australian agencies' use of these powers is available to request access to communications held by a US communications provider now and into the future, regardless of the technical methods that those providers use to access communications, all subject to the current safeguards in the framework.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, there is schedule 5 to the bill. This schedule proposes amendments to the Crimes Act 1914 to clarify and strengthen safeguards in the controlled operations provisions framework. Pursuant to section 15GD of the Crimes Act:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">A controlled operation is an operation that:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) involves the participation of law enforcement officers; and</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) is carried out for the purpose of obtaining evidence that may lead to the prosecution of a person for a serious Commonwealth offence or a serious State offence that has a federal aspect; and</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(c) may involve a law enforcement officer or other person in conduct that would, apart from section 15HA, constitute a Commonwealth offence or an offence against a law of a State or Territory.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Controlled operations might include infiltrating serious and organised crime groups, identifying and rescuing victims of abuse or gathering evidence for the prosecution of serious offences, including in relation to online sexual abuse syndicates. Plainly, controlled operations involve serious risks and must therefore be appropriately safeguarded. The nature and development of the online world have meant the prevalence of the crimes committed while facilitated online is increasing. Perpetrators can hide on the internet, and they do so in sophisticated manners, making it difficult to gather information and difficult to assess the risks when determining whether a controlled operation should proceed or be varied. Authorising officers currently have insufficient guidelines as to the extent to which they are expected to foresee potential risks and not authorise or vary a controlled operation in the context of these risks.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The amendments proposed by schedule 5 oblige authorising officers to consider the direct and reasonably foreseeable consequences of controlled conduct when authorising or burying a controlled operation instead of any conduct of third parties, as was the original intent of these thresholds. Critically, the proposed amendments set out in schedule 5 provide clearer legal protections for officers who are participating in undercover operations designed to disrupt and take down sexual abuse syndicates. A sobering statistic is that, in the 2023-2024 financial year alone, reports of online child exploitation to the Australian Centre to Counter Child Exploitation increased by 45 per cent from the previous year. So officers doing this challenging and sometimes horrific work need to be able to do it without fear of personal liability.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Full and fearless investigations are the only way these sorts of crimes can be investigated and the only way mitigation strategies to reduce or eliminate the further perpetration of these crimes can be implemented. Therefore, the proposed framework will retain the appropriate carve-outs for liability protections where officers engage in otherwise illegal behaviour not pursuant to an approved control operation and where their conduct is likely to cause the death or serious injury of a person or where their conduct would involve the commission of a sexual offence against a person. Without these amendments, law enforcement agencies will lack the confidence and agency to authorise and deploy controlled operations in online spaces, particularly as they relate to the investigation and disruption of child sexual abuse syndicates.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In commending this bill to the House, I finish by again expressing my deepest gratitude to those who do this work in service to their fellow Australians.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2072</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wilson, Tim MP</name>
                <name.id>IMW</name.id>
                <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="IMW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TIM WILSON</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Goldstein</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:49</span>):  In the era of national security, all legislation is, of course, enormously important, but it's also equally important that we scrutinise all pieces of legislation to make sure there is not needless overreach and to make sure this parliament is always getting the balance right. We all believe in the importance of human freedom and dignity but also in making sure that we have a secure environment and making sure that we have appropriate crackdowns on those people who wish our community and our society harm—particularly those who are most vulnerable, children in particular—and those who want to perpetrate sexual violence and harm. That's the basis on which this legislation, the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025, has been put forward to this parliament.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I will have served in this parliament now for six years in about five months, with a little bit of a gap in between some of that tenure, and have served on the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security, including with the current Minister for Small Business, who is sitting at the table opposite me. One of the challenges you confront—and it's a difficult thing to confront—is that, because we have an enormous amount of faith and hope in our country and our fellow citizens, sometimes some of our fellow citizens fall short. I don't just mean fall short. Sometimes they fall short in a very large way, and we see the dark depths of humanity. When we find those dark depths and when our agencies that are charged responsible for making sure those people are held accountable, we need to make sure that they have the laws and tools available to them. We need them to be able to go into those deep, dark recesses, particularly online and through telecommunication platforms, to find them; to make sure the content they are producing, what it is they are doing and the harm they are doing, particularly against those who are vulnerable, can be exposed and brought into the sunlight; and to make sure that there's a full pathway for prosecution. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That's why legislation like this matters. What we're actually doing is empowering our agencies—whether they're Federal Police or other intelligence organisations or whether they're working across international borders—to be able to go into places like the dark web and discover the deep, dark realities and the shortcomings of humanity. This legislation is very important because it's a tragedy that, when you engage in some of the responsibilities that you must engage in in this office that we all hold in our different capacities, you see what humanity is capable of. More importantly, you see how people will treat the most vulnerable, in particular children—whether it's sexual crimes, abuse or sexual violence—the content people will create, capture or distribute; and the different mechanisms by which they connect with other people who find satisfaction through such crimes.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Of course, we in the opposition are supporting this legislation because we understand how important it is to protect children and, of course, anyone else who is at the end of sexual violence, sexual crimes or any other type of violent crime where people perpetuate or use telecommunications as a mechanism to do harm. It's more important because we understand how much technology has become an enabler of some of the most distressing parts of increased crime. There are lots of different challenges that are now being presented. We know that telecommunications is a very significant part of the networks that organised crime uses. It's a very important part of how terrorist organisations connect with each other, whether it's through mechanisms of distribution of finance, distributing information to others around the promotion and propagation of the information about their crimes, or pathways of coordination for their various different attacks. It's also for other types of harm, where people use telecommunications as a mechanism to distribute the consequences of their criminal conduct and to be able to send it out to consumers as well. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As we use technology to identify pathways to address what might be through traditional channels, what we see more and more of is telecommunications pathways going deeper and darker into the recesses of the internet, beneath the things that you or I, or average people, would use to be able to distribute that information. The consequence of that is that the powers our agencies need to crack down on it are becoming much more substantial. They need powers so they can access information, and they need pathways to represent others and be in a position to get information from people so that they can provide the evidentiary basis to go through to points of identification and prosecution. We have dealt with this before on the intelligence and security committee, when I was on it. Some of the legislative measures have continued to evolve and take time; that includes what is presented before the parliament today. It's also something we on this side of the chamber, leading up to the last election, said we would be very aggressive in continuing to pursue, particularly around mandatory minimum sentences, particularly when telecommunications devices are used for things like sexual violence and crime, particularly against women. We understand how much it can become an enabler, how much we see it as a significant and serious threat into the future and how we need to take these issues very seriously.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Sitting behind anything that happens in the online world is something that's actually happening in the real world. When the online world becomes an enabler of crime, it's becoming an enabler of crime in the real world. And sitting behind every one of those stories are real people—often, as I've said before, some of the most vulnerable within our community. So it's extremely important that we give the agencies the powers they need to be able to crack down on these types of crimes. More important than that, because telecommunications are not limited solely to what goes on within in the domestic boundaries of our great Commonwealth, is that we also need to make sure that our agencies have the capacity to access data and information that transcends our national boundaries.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This has been one of the biggest challenges for our agencies working with other governments and police force counterparts around the world. Once you leave Australia's national boundaries, so ends Australian national law. So we have partnerships, agreements and arrangements with governments and agencies in other countries to be able to information-share on a voluntary basis where we find it fruitful to do so. With some countries, we're not necessarily in the best position to have those arrangements, but there are countries where we can do it if we come to terms and work with their governments on a mutually beneficial basis. We have agreements in place with the United States, of course, which is of incredible importance, particularly for the infrastructure they have as part of the internet.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But there are countries we should have arrangements with or that we wish we had arrangements with because they are the harbours of so much illicit and illegal content on the internet. I think of countries like Russia, North Korea and so many others. They use themselves as safe havens for criminal activities. We know they do. They know they do. They become enablers of criminal activity which directly harms not just Australians, although Australians are caught up in it; they become enablers of criminal activity that has an impact on people in every nation around this world. Because of their role aboveboard and on the dark web, we're in a situation where they allow the criminals to write the rules, not the law-abiding citizens and democratic governments standing up for safety, for justice and for protecting the vulnerable.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Whatever our differences, I would hope that everybody in this chamber and this parliament fundamentally believes that the role of this parliament—the government that represents the people of Australia—is to make sure that we defend the best interests of those who cannot speak for themselves and that we stand up and say that there is no place on online platforms for things like sexual violence and sexual crimes against children. I am fully extending that with the absolute intent that that is the view of the government and that we need to bring forward the powers for our agencies and police to do everything to stamp that out. That's the basis on which, in a bipartisan way, we are supporting this legislation. We actually understand just how important it is to take these steps, because of the human impact that sits behind it. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Telecommunications powers matter. Getting them right matters. This legislation matters for the reasons I've outlined. That doesn't mean the government always get things right. We know and have lived with, in recent weeks, a situation where Australians have lost their lives as a direct consequence of what happens when the government—through intransigence, indifference or apparently because the minister is new—does not have the proper arrangements in place around telecommunications powers where Australians want to do simple things like dial triple 0 to be connected to an emergency service so that they can get the support they desperately need in a moment of health crisis. If they don't get that help, tragically, people die. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Triple 0—zero, zero, zero—represents the absence of the heartbeats of the lives lost. It should be one, one, one for the people who are still alive. One of the most disappointing things that we heard in question time today was how the minister responsible didn't see it as her responsibility. We heard the minister being quite happy to pass the buck to the telecommunications company as a way of avoidance and to accept that that number of Australians who desperately needed support in past weeks amounted to their lives being worth zero, zero, zero. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It's very sobering, because we all depend on telecommunications these days. We all desperately need the support and services. When the services are there, we need them to work for us. We need them to be able to do the task of protecting us, to secure the services we need, to empower Australians—whether it's access to health services or whether it's through crime and support and security. There are times in my electorate where people call the local police station, and they can't even get connected. There are times when they're using their mobile telephony across this country and expect to get access, but they can't even connect to a local telephone tower. This is a common complaint of members, particularly those from rural and regional Australia, but I can tell you that it happens even in the Goldstein electorate. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When it comes to the powers that this parliament affords our agencies, including the Australian Federal Police, ASIO and others, we want to be confident that, when those agencies are going after criminals, working with partners overseas, they are able to find people who are perpetuating harm—people who are committing crimes against children, against women or against any person, particularly where they're using nefarious recording of information, often involving sexual violence, sexual crimes—and that they can find that content and shut it down. This is not an unreasonable expectation. It is, in fact, exactly what everybody in this parliament should seek. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My hope is that, by passing this legislation, it will not be the end of this discussion—sadly, it will not be the end because, tragically, we see the dark depths of humanity in these conversations—but a continuation of the commitment from this parliament that we are serious about finding every pathway to crack down on those people who wish our fellow citizens harm and, more importantly, that we work with agencies around the world to stop the tragedy of those in our country who aid and assist other people in the commitment of their sexual violence and their sexual crimes and help bring them to justice as well. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is a common cause of humanity. We should make sure that the internet and technology do not become, any more than absolutely necessary—the answer is it's never necessary, absolutely never—a pathway or an enabler to cause harm against those who cannot stand up or speak for themselves. That's why we support this legislation. </span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2074</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">McCormack, Michael MP</name>
                <name.id>219646</name.id>
                <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="219646" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr McCORMACK</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Riverina</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:04</span>):  Anything that can make Australia's telecommunications even more watertight—the security thereof—has to be commended and supported, and the coalition does support the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025. It's important legislation. As you've just heard from the member for Goldstein, our national security is vital. Obviously, what we need to do in the space of child exploitation through sex trafficking, particularly in the Philippines and South-East Asia, is crack on those nefarious characters who use telecommunications devices and other ways and means to do the wrong thing and to do great harm not only to children but, indeed, also to our nation's reputation. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I know, from when I was the shadow minister for the Pacific and international development, that the greatest exploiters of child sex trafficking in these areas were Australians, and that is very sad to say; it is abhorrent. Anything in this bill that can amend that, fix that, eradicate that has got to be seen as a good thing.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There was recently an article on SmartCompany, written by Morganne Kopittke, in relation to investment and false-billing scams costing small businesses $25 million. In the very well-researched article, the journalist wrote that Australian small businesses have lost just over $25 million to scams in two years, with investment scams and false billing pinpointed as the biggest drains on their bank accounts. You get this wrong image that criminal activity, when it is blue collar—if I could put it that way—is really bad but white-collar crime is in some way forgivable. In many ways, when you think about it, white-collar crime costs people their life savings, and it harms them—it sometimes even kills people—in other ways. In this article, the journalist wrote that a software company, Reckon, prepared some research. It's an accounting firm. This report analysed scam data from micro- and small businesses using scam statistics provided upon request by the National Anti-Scam Centre. They found that small businesses lost $17.3 million in 2023, with 2,490 cases reported. And the article says:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">From January 1 to November 30, 2024, business scams cost Australian small businesses $7.9 million with 1,707 reports made according to Reckon's report.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I know that the former minister, the former assistant treasurer and member for Whitlam, who's now gone on to other things, did a lot of work in this regard. I applaud him for the efforts that he went to, to crack down on scams. I know he headed up a very well-attended forum in Wagga Wagga, where he warned people of the white-collar crime that exists, particularly in the area of small business and especially targeting older Australians. These scams have become much slicker, much more professional and much more believable. Anything that we can do to prevent this has to be seen to be a good thing.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This report from SmartCompany says:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">For investment scams, small businesses saw a loss of more than $3.7 million, with 50 reports made, while false billing, which had 422 reports, recorded a loss of over $3.6 million.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Speaking with SmartCompany, Reckon's chief executive officer, Sam Allert, said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">… business scams cost Australia's small businesses millions each year—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">of course, that's an understatement, because they absolutely do—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">The financial and operational impact is often devastating, particularly for micro-businesses operating on tight margins.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That's what was reported. The quote that he gave was:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Scammers are becoming more sophisticated, using AI-driven phishing attacks and business email compromise scams that can be difficult to detect. This makes cybersecurity no longer optional but essential …</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Small businesses must take a proactive approach by embedding cybersecurity into their daily operations. Implementing two-factor authentication, regularly updating software, and training staff to recognise scam tactics are crucial first steps.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But the difficulty, too, is that often you'll go onto a website that you need to access quickly—I know that this is the same for business—and you have to prove that you're a human. It's almost like the computers are taking over. And you have to look at each of the squares and mark the number of umbrellas or cars or bus signs or whatever the case might be to prove that you're not a bot and to prove that, in fact, you are a real human being. I know it's another form of ensuring that you are what you say you are and who you say you are, but—I tell you what—it is frustrating.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The article continues:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Allert added that many businesses also overlook the importance of cyber insurance, which can provide a safety net in the event of a breach.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And, of course, we've seen some spectacularly bad breaches in recent times with companies now, because they didn't take the measures, didn't take the steps, didn't take the precautions, having to pay up big time to customers who were quite innocently—or perhaps, in some cases, stupidly—separated from their money. Allert said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Since email scams remain a common attack method, business owners must watch for red flags like unusual sender addresses, poor grammar, urgent requests, and emails impersonating trusted contacts.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Again, that's from the report. Allert then said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Establishing verification protocols for payments and sensitive requests can help prevent costly mistakes.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Again, that's an understatement, but it's so true.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to commend the work that Bruce Billson has done as the Australian Small Business and Family Enterprise Ombudsman in this particular area. I'm sorry that the government hasn't seen fit to increase his time with ASBFEO. I think it's a very good organisation; in fact, I know it's a very good organisation. I also commend him for the work that he is doing in the area of small business, building on the work he did as the best small-business minister this parliament has seen. I say that with all due respect to other small-business ministers, including me, who have actually occupied that role—and I know Anne Aly is doing it at the moment. But it's a critical role. It truly is.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But, to this bill, we are supporting the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025. It ensures key provisions operate as intended, taking in the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979, the Surveillance Devices Act 2004 and the Crimes Act from way back in 1914. It flows from the government's decision to reconstitute the Home Affairs portfolio from the federal election.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The decision to reconstitute the Home Affairs portfolio after the May election and the Prime Minister's recognition that there were issues with information sharing during the Dural caravan incident are an admission that the national security framework that he put in place by dismantling the Home Affairs portfolio failed, and it did so at a critical juncture. It did. That has to be said. The federal government and the AFP need to work in with states and the various state police forces to ensure that, when we have incidents such as the Dural caravan incident, we absolutely get the information, we absolutely share it as much as possible with the public as soon as possible and we are upfront about it. And I'm not quite sure, in that particular case, that everything happened that way. I have to say that what we've seen is, unfortunately, party and factional politics winning over common sense and public safety, and that is perhaps not the greatest outcome.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The second schedule amends the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 to transfer the statutory function of the Communications Access Coordinator from the Secretary of the Attorney-General's Department to the Secretary of the Department of Home Affairs. That might sound like it's perfunctory, but it's not. It is a major change and is seen by the government to be a necessary amendment and update.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 3 amends the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 to permit limited access to stored communications to allow agencies to undertake development and testing activities in situations where they otherwise would have been authorised to intercept the same communication if they were still passing over a telecommunications system. I want to point this out: we are served—and very well served—by some wonderful public servants in ASIO, in the AFP and in those surveillance organisations and departments. I've seen them at their best, and I know the member for New England has as well, in our capacities of being second in charge, each of us, of national security during times of government. We are well served, and we have to be. We need to be, because there are bad actors, both overseas governments and overseas individuals, who will do Australia harm. They would and they do. The number of times that these bad actors have been prevented from doing us more harm has only been through absolute diligence. These public servants, these surveillance agencies—AFP and ASIO and other people—are going out of their way to make sure that they undertake every stringent measure to make sure our public safety is No. 1, and I thank them for that.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 4 is for the technical issue with the operation of interception of international production orders in the T(IA) Act. Schedule 5 amends the Crimes Act, which dates back to the First World War, to clarify the threshold for authorising and varying controlled operations and the circumstances in which a participant is protected from criminal responsibility and indemnified against civil liability. They are necessary, perfunctory things that strengthen this particular legislation. The fifth schedule provides clarity around legal protection for officers involved in undercover operations targeted at taking down sexual abuse syndicates. As I said at the outset, clamping down on these people, identifying who they are and making sure that they are arrested either before they leave Australia or when they return to this country is of paramount importance, not only for the security of our nation but for the protection of those kids who they would seek to do harm to in other destinations, in other countries.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the 2024-25 financial year, there were, according to the ACCCE Child Protection Triage Unit—and this is a sobering and devastating statistic—82,764 reports of online child sexual exploitation. That is nearly 83,000. That is gut wrenching. That is sickening. That is so disturbing. This equates to an average of 226 reports per day. To be honest, the penalties for this are probably nowhere near what they need to be. They should be strengthened, whether it's at the state or national level. These evildoers need to be weeded out and put behind bars—whatever it takes, to be honest.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These amendments in the overall legislation before the House ensure the law is fit for purpose going forward in addressing the most abhorrent online crimes where the persons under investigation are anonymised, including on the dark web and encrypted communications platforms, and that is good. That is absolutely encouraged. The coalition will always support sensible reforms which ensure that the men and women serving in intelligence agencies in Australia are given the best tools, the best support and the funding necessary. They do a wonderful job, and we commend them for it.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2076</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Joyce, Barnaby MP</name>
                <name.id>e5d</name.id>
                <electorate>New England</electorate>
                <party>ON</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="e5d" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr JOYCE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">New England</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:20</span>):  I concur with those remarks. I just want to add to the closing remarks of the member for Riverina that what we've seen is that obviously the set-up that we had in dealing with this was the correct one. It was changed by the incoming government, and it's had to be changed back.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But I want to concentrate on one thing, and that's paedophile rings and having to track these things down. It is an abhorrence that is more pronounced now. It has always been there, but with the capacity for people to go online, with the capacity for people to organise across national boundaries, we have to have the utmost forensic intelligence to track these monsters down. As we've seen in the notes, and I know the member for Riverina quoted it, there are about 226 new cases a day. For any person who's had children or has young children it's probably one of your greatest fears. It's your greatest fear all the time. When you're out in the community, you ask: 'Who is that person? What is that threat?' Unfortunately, you do have to be vigilant against it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I have huge admiration for the police officers and for those who actually have to follow these nefarious, evil people through the dark web—through the onion routers and down into the dark web—without getting affected themselves. When they're trying to track these monsters down—and they are monsters; they are total and utter monsters—these officers have to be supervised so that any effect on them is also managed.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What we have here, in the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025, is yet another mechanism that we hope will give greater efficacy to our continual pursuit of these people. What we see with the continued discovery of paedophiles is they're obviously still there, no matter what we do. There's still a burgeoning filth that is threatening what is probably the most sacred thing you can have, which is a child.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The other part of this that we have to be very aware of is the circumstance that Australia now sees itself in. There was a good article in the <span style="font-style:italic;">Australian</span> today where Andrew Shearer talked about the issues that are now happening with the intrusions, the hacking into the lives of everyday Australians, predominantly by communist China. We also know in the past it's come from Russia, it's come from Iran, it's come from North Korea and it's probably come from other malevolent forces. This also is incredibly insidious. The capacity for people with ulterior purposes to gain access to personal details, to be able to manipulate those details, to put misinformation out into the public square—I'm not talking about misinformation about climate or something like that but misinformation that can actually change governments and change the direction of where things are going. These two need to be intercepted; these two need to be dealt with.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the things Mr Shearer said that I find quite alarming is:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Confidence in multinational institutions is weakening. The military balance is shifting against the West and deterrence is eroding. Our adversaries are exploiting our preference for restraint and de-escalation and leveraging coercion, cyber attacks, sabotage and disinformation to test us without triggering outright conflict.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our nation's capacity to have oversight over telecommunications also segues into our nation's capacity to deal with what is already a prominent covert attack on Australia. This is already in train. It's already happening. It's not going to happen; it's happening right now. It's happening today. The previous coalition had to put forward a substantial amount of money—I think it was $10 billion—because we could see this, and even $10 billion is not enough. In conversations—because I'm not stupid; I knew we were going to lose government when we did—that I had with Labor Party people in the corridors, I remember saying just one thing: 'As you go into government, remember this: communist China'—I don't say 'the Chinese people'; the Chinese people are good people—'the totalitarian regime, is a danger. It's not any sort of association with genetics; it's associated with policy. It's associated with the process of unilateral control by one person. That's always a danger.' I said, 'Remember communist China is not a threat; communist China is already here. The issue is already here. It has already arrived, and how we deal with it is to be eternally vigilant.' What we hope we get with this is greater efficacy in that vigilance. If we were just to rest and to quietly think that this issue will somehow fade away, then the greatest threat and the greatest problem will be ours.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the processes that this can lead to if we do not have proper oversight is the total chaos that could be inflicted on our nation with things such as sleeper code. To give you an example, Deputy Speaker Freelander, I presume that you rate your wealth by numbers on a piece of paper. You don't have—maybe you do, but I doubt it—bars of gold in your roof; you don't have wads of cash stuck in your mattress. What you have is the reliance that the figures you see back what you're worth. For the title on your house, I bet you don't even have a piece of paper anymore; I'd presume it's all online. I'm going to pose a scenario. What would happen if people were clever enough in the online environment to make all those numbers disappear? You look at your bank account and there is no amount in it. You look at your title and there is no record of you owning a house. All your records have disappeared. If you had to go to a bank and prove you had the money you thought you had, how would you do that? If you could create a whole range of that across a society, imagine the chaos you'd create. Imagine the absolute chaos you'd be able to create in a nation. Imagine the view the nation would have of its own security. These are the sorts of things we have concerns about.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'll give you another example, something that was put in the realms of conspiracy theories but now not so much. So many people today—this is a part of intermittent energy I have got no problems with—have solar panels on their roofs. However, one of the concerns we have now is if people are able to remotely control these and affect the inverters so that they don't switch off—they just heat—then they will catch on fire. That means, as we always hear Minister Bowen speak about how many of these solar panels are going on roofs, if they're coming from China and communist China has the capacity to turn off their safety requirements, then you have a huge problem stuck on every roof throughout Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide—across Australia. This could be complete and utter chaos. If you can make them catch on fire, I imagine that you can burn down the houses.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It's the same thing with electric cars coming in. If you have the capacity to switch them off, it's same thing. If you have the capacity to deal with the delay in the safety capacity of that car, to have its electronics overheat and catch on fire—if you can turn that off, you can create mass confusion in a nation. As they say, a war will start in the cyberworld, and it'll start in space. All of these other things that are envisaged—if you can turn off our reports in regard to weather, you also turn off the capacity for our airports to work and for our planes to work. In all of this, we are playing a massive game of catch-up.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As we have to as a trading country, we import products from sources that might have a malevolent interest in how they work with us, and we have to be absolutely vigilant in everything we do. We have to use every card that we've got to make sure we keep Australia safe. It's not just from Mr Shearer; we've also heard in the past from Mr Burgess and before that from Mr Pezzullo. They have all said the same thing. All these people who've been in the realm of understanding the threats to our nation have the same thing to say. It's no longer a conspiracy theory; it's no longer outlandish; it is in live play and happening now. I'm absolutely certain that those who are on the National Security Committee are fully aware of that. So any form of legislation we can bring in, such as the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill, that allows us the capacity for the better protection of Australia, the better understanding of anything—of getting any intel that we can as to what other people are up to in our nation—we must use.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In closing, I just want go to one thing that's in every town. It is the tobacco wars. In every town, just being flaunted in front of you, is the sale of illegal tobacco. It's the burning down of people's houses. If you dare to bring it up, if you try to address it—I was talking to people in a regional town not that long ago, and I said, 'Why doesn't somebody do something about this?' and they said: 'You'd have to be the bravest person in town. They'll burn your house down if you approach them.' I have real concerns. Obviously, we need to get inside what's happening in these criminal rings, but, at this point in time, we don't seem to have the desire, the capacity or the mechanism to touch them.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It's perverse that you can walk down the main street of a town and find maybe three or four shops illegally selling tobacco, and no-one cares about it, or they're unable to do anything about it. It also shows to other people walking down the street that the law is lost. There is no control over this. If they can do it in plain sight, how do we have confidence in other aspects of law enforcement? How do we believe that you have the capacity to deal with other issues, other criminal activities, if you can't fix something that's right in front of your nose?</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">If you look at the people serving in these tobacco shops, they look like they're opportunists. They don't look like geniuses, but they're obviously being organised. They're getting their product from somewhere. They're selling their product out in the street. The actual incidence of smoking is going up. The revenue that we were getting is falling through the floor, and our law enforcement is—I don't know—just completely unable to deal with it. I hope things such as this bill can assist in what is a much, much wider issue, and that is the lack of capacity Australia has to deal with some of the most pertinent issues, whether it's paedophilia, whether it's international pressures or whether it's domestic crime. I hope we can actually manage them.</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2078</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Aldred, Mary MP</name>
                <name.id>11788</name.id>
                <electorate>Monash</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
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                    <a href="11788" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms ALDRED</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Monash</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:35</span>):  I associate myself with the remarks of my colleague, the member for New England, on the insidious rise of the illegal tobacco trade at the moment. It is causing huge issues for regional Australia, particularly in my home state of Victoria, where that was brought home just this week, with the illegal ram raid on a local grocery store in Longwarry. They're good businesspeople; they care about their staff. They had a ransom note from one of these characters. They didn't pay the ransom. They did all of the right things. They went to the police. Yet, a couple of days later, they had a ram raid attack on their business, which is totally unacceptable. So we really need to deal very, very strongly with that in a number of ways.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025 amends the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979, Surveillance Devices Act 2004 and Crimes Act 1914 to make critical provisions operate as they are intended to. It also provides technical amendments flowing from the government's decision to reconstitute the Home Affairs portfolio after this year's federal election. Schedule 1 of the bill deals with the permitting of protected network activity and how warrants for intercepts of information are to be used, communicated and recorded to meet disclosure obligations. Schedule 2 amends the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 to transfer the statutory function of the Communications Access Coordinator, the CAC, from the Secretary of the Attorney-General's Department to the Department of Home Affairs.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're at this juncture because the Labor government decided, after the federal election in 2022, that it would pull apart the Department of Home Affairs. This blatantly prioritised party political mechanics above the Australian national interest. We know that, following the 2025 election, the Albanese Labor government was dragged into putting the Home Affairs portfolio back together again in its original structure, which was put forward by the coalition. That included returning the Australian Federal Police, the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission and the Australian Transaction Reports and Analysis Centre to Home Affairs from the Attorney-General's portfolio. The coalition was open and upfront about its commitment to this structure before the election. The Labor Party was nowhere to be seen on getting its act together on this front. At the time, the Prime Minister was quoted in the <span style="font-style:italic;">Canberra Times </span>as saying:</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">… the move came after challenges with information sharing …</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">'Challenges with information sharing' must be the understatement of the year in this case. The change was the third round of changes, by the way, that this government fiddled around with in three years as part of their machinery-of-government changes. This was, of course, after the events in January, when there was an initial discovery of a caravan full of explosives.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 3 will amend the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 to permit limited access to stored communications and allow agencies to undertake development and testing activities in circumstances where they would, in other circumstances, be allowed to intercept the same communication if it were continuing to pass over a telecommunications system. The intention of these changes will be to firm up the existing framework and ensure it is able to keep pace with a continually developing and modern operating environment. Schedule 4 corrects a technical issue with the operation of the interception—</span>
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                <a href="86256" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                  <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                    <span class="HPS-Normal">
                      <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Hill interjecting</span>—</span>
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                </a>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="11788" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms ALDRED:</span>
                    </a>  No, I'm not—of international production orders in the T(IA) Act that was preventing international production orders from being given to US based prescribed communications providers in certain circumstances. This is dealt with under an agreement between the government of Australia and the government of the United States of America on access to electronic data for the purpose of countering serious crime.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I go back to my remarks about the illegal tobacco trade in Australia. While official figures show that smoking rates are declining, wastewater reports from criminal intelligence agencies show that smoking as recorded in wastewater is actually at an eight-year high. Legal retailers of legal cigarettes are reporting, I think, 50 per cent down on the last 12 months and 30 per cent on the year before that. So we have a major problem with criminal gangs. That is absolutely relatable to some of the points in this bill.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What these amendments do is clarify that interception orders issued to Australian law enforcement and national security agencies may be used to obtain prospective content data from communications providers in a country with which Australia has a designated international agreement regardless of the type of technical method by which that prospective data is sent on.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I've had a bit to say about data management recently, particularly around issues pertaining to data sovereignty. I think it's really important that we have regard for the management and security of data kept here and abroad where it concerns sensitive consumer data, such as financial records or health records, or where we're dealing with the areas of national security and our Defence Force agencies.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The amendments clarify that interception orders issued to Australian law enforcement and national security agencies may be used to obtain prospective content data from communications providers in a country with which Australia has a designated international agreement regardless of the technical method by which that prospective data is sent to an agency.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 5 amends the Crimes Act 1914 to clarify the threshold for authorising and varying controlled operations and the circumstances in which a participant is protected from criminal responsibility and indemnified against civil liability. The anonymous nature of online crime means law enforcement may lack information to assess potential risks when deciding whether to authorise or vary a controlled operation. The amendments will clarify that the authorising officers must consider the direct and reasonably foreseeable consequences of controlled conduct when authorising or varying a controlled operation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 5 also provides clarity around legal protections for officers involved in undercover operations targeted at taking down insidious sexual abuse syndicates. In the 2024-25 financial year, the ACCCE Child Protection Triage Unit received 82,764 reports of online child sexual exploitation. This equates to an average of 226 reports per day. The need for strong action against these predators has never been more acute. These amendments ensure the law is fit for purpose in addressing the most abhorrent online crimes where persons under investigation are anonymised, including on the dark web and encrypted communications platforms.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The changes in the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025 provide essential clarifications to ensure that the agencies that keep our nation safe can continue to do so in an era of rapid technological development. The coalition will always support sensible reforms which ensure men and women serving in intelligence and law enforcement roles have the tools they need to take down criminals, no matter where they are hiding, and the coalition will be supporting this bill without amendment.</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Aldred, Mary MP</name>
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                  <electorate>Monash</electorate>
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                <page.no>2079</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Venning, Tom MP</name>
                <name.id>315434</name.id>
                <electorate>Grey</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr VENNING</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grey</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:44</span>):  I wish to contribute to the debate on the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025. I want to focus on regional telecommunications. Of course, the electorate of Grey represents 92.4 per cent of geographic South Australia, from the Nullarbor to the Eyre Peninsula, the Yorke Peninsula, the mid-north, the far north and, of course, the outback. So telecommunications are of enormous importance for the people of Grey.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Now, we've gone through a few generations of telecommunications. We used to have the copper network, and this was fax and dial-up, and that revolutionised regional communications. Times have changed, and the reliance on that network is no longer required, but of course we still have the universal service obligation on a service which is not being used. On our farm, for example, the tractor hit the copper cable. It's no longer needed, but we weren't using it in the first place.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Then we had the mobile network. It started off with, I assume, 1G and 2G. Then it went to 3G, 4G and 5G. As the Gs went up, the less distance the network could travel but the faster the transfer speeds were.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="86256" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Hill:</span>
                    </a>  We're about to get 6G!</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="315434" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr VENNING:</span>
                    </a>  Well, I'm not sure if we're about to get 6G! But, in regional South Australia, of course—5G does not work in regional Australia, because the distances it can travel are quite short.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The other way that regional individuals communicate is through the satellite system. The NBN made satellites available to a lot of customers, but these are satellites that travel in the outer atmosphere, at great distances, so the speeds at which you could communicate were poor, and that didn't really revolutionise the connections in regional Australia. NBN fixed wireless did revolutionise regional telecommunications. These are towers that were put up in communities of between 100 and 1,000 people and had a range of about 14 kilometres. That certainly did revolutionise regional telecommunication. But I want to stress that there are plenty of communities in Grey that still do not have the NBN. It is 2025. The district council of Elliston on the west coast of the Eyre Peninsula still does not have access to the NBN, so community members there either don't have connectivity or are using the old Telstra ADSL services. In 2025, that is not acceptable.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Now, in 2025, the private sector has got involved and we have LEOs, low-Earth-orbit satellites. Thanks to Elon Musk and Starlink, these have revolutionised regional connectivity. The technology in our iPhones today has the ability to talk with these LEOs, and that will be turned on throughout the coming months. That's why I thought it was a bit disingenuous when, at the last election, the Labor government came out with a policy to say, 'We will be supporting connectivity for all of Australia.' This was a nothing announcement because this was happening anyway They weren't doing anything to support the connectivity of LEOs. Of course, their announcement didn't talk about Elon Musk or Starlink at all, but that was the technology that they were leveraging.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What that also means is that providers like Telstra and Optus are in what I call a cost-out environment. They do not want to invest more towers into regional Australia, because they know the market share will get swallowed up by LEOs. That's what we're seeing particularly in my electorate of Grey. There continue to be no more mobile phone towers going up in Grey. I also argue that the Labor government is part of that. My predecessor, Rowan Ramsey, in his tenure got 56 mobile phone towers put up in the electorate of Grey. In the previous Labor term, not one new tower was put up. There were two promised, but still these two have not been built.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Last week were the Yorke Peninsula Field Days, and of course Telstra had a stand there. I talked about this fact with them, and they agreed. Another concern that we talked about was the degradation of services when 3G was switched off. As regional communities, we were promised that there would be no degradation of service when 3G was to be shut down. That's clearly not been the case. I drive thousands of kilometres every week. I know exactly where the dead spots are and can tell you that the service has been degraded.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">With LEOs, there is a huge opportunity for Australia to get a hold of this market. We are launching low-Earth-orbit satellites into the atmosphere regularly. We have a retrieval site in the electorate of Grey because of our vast spaces of uninhabited land. It's perfect for retrieving satellites. We are currently launching satellites at Koonibba. That happens every week. We have a new satellite launch site at Whalers Way for sun-synchronous launches. These are satellites that go polar to polar, not around the equator. We are launching more each week, and there is a huge opportunity, a multibillion-dollar industry, that we need to take hold of here in Australia. Space is a regional industry. We are launching satellites from the regions, we are retrieving them from the regions and now we need to manufacture them in the regions as well.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The last thing I will talk about is the issue of power outages and their effect on telecommunications. Earlier in the year we had a power outage for about 20 hours on the Yorke Peninsula. The whole peninsula was out of power. The towers have batteries on them, but they only last for a couple of hours. By the time we got to 10 o'clock in the morning, no-one in Yorke Peninsula could communicate. That has impacts on emergency services. That has impacts on business, and it was a weekend, so business shut down for that day. ElectroNet at the time considered that not to be something they would pay out. If you were a butcher and you lost all of your produce, you didn't get paid out for that power outage. Some exciting developments that are happening include the ability for councils and other community members to get a generator and plug it into these mobile phone towers when there are power outages. We realise, with this all-in-one-basket, wind-and-solar approach to our energy market, our grid is becoming less and less stable. The degradation of our telecommunication network is getting worse as well. So we need to start thinking about these initiatives to support the telecommunications in the regions. I'll leave it there, but I'll finish by saying that we will be supporting this bill without amendment.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a second time.</span>
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                  <page.no>2080</page.no>
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                  <name role="metadata">Hill, Julian MP</name>
                  <name.id>86256</name.id>
                  <electorate>Bruce</electorate>
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                  <page.no>2080</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Venning, Tom MP</name>
                  <name.id>315434</name.id>
                  <electorate>Grey</electorate>
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            <page.no>2080</page.no>
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                <page.no>2080</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Hill, Julian MP</name>
                <name.id>86256</name.id>
                <electorate>Bruce</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="86256" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr HILL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bruce</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Citizenship, Customs and Multicultural Affairs and Assistant Minister for International Education</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:52</span>):  by leave—I move:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a third time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a third time.</span>
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          <page.no>2081</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Treasury Laws Amendment (Strengthening Financial Systems and Other Measures) Bill 2025</span>
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            <page.no>2081</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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                <page.no>2081</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">O'Brien, Ted MP</name>
                <name.id>138932</name.id>
                <electorate>Fairfax</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="138932" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TED O'BRIEN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fairfax</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Leader of the Opposition</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:53</span>):  I'm happy to rise in the House today to talk about the Treasury Laws Amendment (Strengthening Financial Systems and Other Measures) Bill 2025. I move the amendment circulated in my name:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">"whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House notes that:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) the bill seeks to extend two successful Coalition policies; </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) the Government's policies have seen energy prices increase by $1,300 more than promised and it is now extending Coalition policy to ensure energy prices don't increase even further; </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3) the Government has only reluctantly decided to support business by extending the instant asset write-off under pressure from the Coalition ahead of the last election; </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(4) this bill seeks to provide less frequent assessments of ASIC and APRA; </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(5) thousands of Australians have lost over $1 billion in superannuation due to alleged misconduct by First Guardian and Shield; </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(6) ASIC has been accused of major failures in responding to this crisis which the Government has been silent about; </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(7) the Government must explain to the thousands of victims why it is seeking to reduce accountability and transparency for ASIC at this time; and</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(8) this bill seeks to clean up a range of the Government's mistakes including the application of GST to disability services".</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Comprising seven schedules and impacting at least eight portfolios, it's not often that this parliament sees such a large bill that simultaneously demonstrates the coalition's competence and Labor's laziness. But that's what we have in this omnibus bill before the House today. I take the opportunity to look at a few of the schedules. If you look at two in particular, they are very close to copy and paste. One is a complete copy and paste and an extension of a former coalition measure and the other one is almost a copy and paste. It builds on a coalition measure. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The first is an extension of the Treasury Laws Amendment (Prohibiting Energy Market Misconduct) Bill 2019. This is all about the energy market, and we know why this government has chosen to extend a coalition measure—because, under the last term of the coalition government, we saw energy prices come down. They came down by about eight per cent for households, 10 per cent for businesses and 12 per cent for industry. We had a proven track record of getting energy prices down. That's what a coalition does. Then in came the Albanese Labor government. The reason I'm trying hard not to laugh is that they promised the Australian people a $275 reduction in household power bills—$275 down was their promise. In fact, power bills have gone up by $1,300.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Well, if you look at the coalition's record in its last term—on average, let's say we got prices down by 10 per cent. Over the Albanese government's first term, they got prices up for gas by 38 per cent and up for electricity by 39 per cent. It is no wonder, therefore, that within this omnibus bill you have a schedule which basically extends a coalition measure that ensured that any savings made by energy retailers would be passed through to consumers—a measure that ensured that energy generators would not be able to adversely bid into the system, as in play the system to the adverse impact of consumers, and that ensured that they would have to be signing up to financial contracts. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This was all set up by the coalition government to ensure it was putting downward pressure on electricity prices. It was one of the many schemes that helped the coalition deliver. It goes to coalition competence, but the Labor government has defied the coalition's practice, and they have seen prices go through the roof. Indeed, only recently, we saw the 2035 emissions reduction targets come out from this government, but they cannot tell the Australian people how much it's going to cost. They don't know how they're going to get there or how much it will cost. What we do know from the market operator and every other energy market expert in the country is that prices are going to continue to rise. This government has no answers—it has no solutions whatsoever—which is why, in this omnibus bill, as a demonstration of coalition competence and Labor laziness, they have decided, in schedule 6, to extend that legislation. That legislation was famously known in this chamber as the 'big stick legislation'. The Labor opposition at the time were very excited about the big stick legislation, I have to say. They were determined to tell the Australian people that the big stick legislation was bad. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'll let you in on a bit of history here. The now climate change and energy minister—the very minister who wants to extend this measure—said of this measure, 'The Liberals' silly big-stick divestment policy will drive up electricity prices even further.' And now the minister of the day says, 'Actually the coalition had it right after all.' I remind you that this is the now Labor climate change and energy minister who was saying, about the very measure that today he wants this House to pass, 'this ridiculous policy'—the very one he has in front of the House now—'this Venezuelan-style intervention, this intervention in the economy which would chill investment'. This is what he said. The now health minister, another frontbencher, said of this very measure:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">This is a stunt by a government that has no energy plan.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The now housing minister, another frontbencher, said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">It is a silly grab bag of things that don't amount to a cohesive policy …</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And the now assistant minister for immigration said of the measure that they want to put through today it 'would have to be the worst, shallowest, most ill-conceived piece of legislation that I have seen in the parliament in my time as a member'. Yet here they are today. This goes to the fact that the coalition was competent, because everything the government is doing is seeing prices go up for energy. There's one measure in their kitbag that the coalition had introduced which is driving the pressure downwards, and that's the one they bring forward, trying to hide it amidst all these other measures within the omnibus.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">If I can go to another measure, it's schedule 7. This one is the instant asset write-off. Again, it goes to the competence of the former coalition government. The Liberals and the Nationals are the only side of politics who actually care about small business and recognise the importance of cash flow and the importance of encouraging the bringing forward of investment, because that will enable businesses to grow. But they can't do that too easily, which is why the instant asset write-offs were created in the first place by the coalition. And now we have the Labor government stealing the policy—which we're very happy about, by the way. That's fine. The more the Labor government steals coalition policy, the better it is for the Australian people. Again, it goes to coalition competence versus Labor laziness. But we do say we like instant asset write-offs.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The only reason they actually were doing this for this term of government anyway is the fact that the coalition had shamed them into it. At the end of the last term of government, the coalition came out with a far stronger instant asset write-off policy to what's before the House today. This shamed the Albanese government, because they'd totally forgotten, as they always do, about small business. But it shamed them, on the eve of the election, to come forward with their own instant asset write-off. While it is nowhere near as good as what the coalition had put up, of course, it is a demonstration of coalition competence and the lazy Labor approach, and we support the instant asset write-offs, as you would expect from a coalition of Liberals and Nationals who understand the importance of small business and the importance of the economy.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But then there are other schedules. I won't run through them all, but, if you look at schedule 3, this is quite a disturbing one. It is suggesting that the government wants to weaken the accountability of both ASIC and APRA. This is most disturbing because, basically, again, due to the competence of the coalition government, you have an authority that assesses these two important regulators to see if they're doing the job as expected. You would think that, of all times, now would be the time where the Labor government would ensure that these bodies are accountable. That's because of the effect of the likes of First Guardian Master Fund and Shield Master Fund, where you have over $1 billion being lost by hardworking, everyday Australians from their savings.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This government has shown itself, again, to be completely lazy. They're not actively trying to ensure that they are fixing the problems here. They are not looking into ASIC to make sure that this does not happen again. Indeed, in the October 2022-23 budget, Labor promised to review the regulatory framework for managed investment schemes, like those of First Guardian and Shield. That review was due over a year ago. No findings have been released. Australians have lost their savings; no findings have been released from that review. Indeed, there was a Senate inquiry done, led by Senator Andrew Bragg. That report goes to the issues which are impacting the likes of Shield and First Guardian and leading to losses by everyday Australians. Do you think the government has responded to that? No. They're too lazy. They're just too lazy. Fifteen months have gone by. They're not responding to that. Why would they bother? Meanwhile, everyday Australians, hardworking Australians, are losing their life savings.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What's in this bill? What's the relevance here? Well, instead of actually scrutinising the likes of ASIC and APRA further and having assessments done every two years, what we see in this bill is the government saying, 'We'll only do it every five years.' Think about that. Australians have lost their savings. ASIC has a lot to answer for. This government has done nothing. It has been given reports and recommendations to fix it. They've done nothing. Then they put in this bill the idea, 'Actually, we don't need to look at ASIC every two years anymore; we're going to do it every five.' What sort of message does that send to those hardworking Australian families who have lost everything in some cases? What message does it send ASIC about whether or not this government wants them to fix problems? I think we know the answer to that rhetorical question.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are other issues and schedules. I won't go through them now. The reason is that, while the coalition will not oppose this bill in the House, we are referring it to a Senate committee. That Senate committee is the committee for economics. We will reserve our final position until after that committee has submitted its report.</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Scrymgour</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Is the amendment seconded?</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Willcox:</span>
                    </a>  I second the amendment and reserve my right to speak.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Laxale, Jerome MP</name>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LAXALE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bennelong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:06</span>):  I haven't been in this place for too long. It's only my second term. But, in my short time here, I've learned two things pretty quickly. One is not to take history lessons from the coalition—the Liberals or the Nationals. We just heard a claim that the instant asset write-off was a policy created by the coalition, when it was, in fact, the Rudd-Gillard government that started the instant asset write-off and a Labor government that supported small-business cash flow. I'll talk to that as part of schedule 7.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The second thing I've learnt while being in this place for a short time is certainly not to take any advice on energy policy from those opposite. Just quickly then I tried to google how many failed energy policies they've had since 2013. I think it's over 20 failed energy policies. They took another one to the last election, and it was nuked by the Australian public. They want to bring that back as another energy policy. They'll probably change it a little bit again, and we'll start racking up triple digits, perhaps, on how many energy policies they've brought in here. So, when the member for Fairfax comes here and says how fantastic the coalition were at energy policy, you need to laugh, because history suggests the total opposite.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What we are doing, though, is modernising the energy market. We are transitioning to the cheapest form of new energy. We will make the decisions, like we are in this bill, the Treasury Laws Amendment (Strengthening Financial Systems and Other Measures) Bill 2025, to extend measures that were due to expire. I was going to talk about schedule 7 first, but, given the member for Fairfax's contribution, I might start on schedule 6. The energy market protections were due to expire. What this bill does is the right thing. It does a bit of maintenance on some of these expiring protections, and it will extend the consumer safeguard in the Treasury Laws Amendment (Prohibiting Energy Market Misconduct) Act until 2031. An independent review found that these protections were effective in constraining market misconduct and protecting households and businesses. By extending them, we are ensuring that affordability and fairness remain at the centre of the energy transition. That is what good governments do. They look at policies, they review them and, if they're worthy of extension, they extend them. But taking advice from those opposite on energy policy is absolutely laughable.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As we've heard, there are seven schedules in this bill. Overall, what this bill does is seek to strengthen confidence in our markets, improve the ways that regulators operate and support long-term economic growth. It obviously, like most TLABs—again, this is not unique—covers a wide range of areas, from corporate disclosure and charity oversight to financial regulators, energy market protections and taxation. But, at its heart, this is a bill about investment, transparency and accountability—the foundations of stronger productivity and public trust, particularly in our economy.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Continuing on with schedule 7, this bill will implement the government's election commitment to extend the $20,000 instant asset write-off for small businesses until 30 June 2026—a really important measure for small businesses. I used to run a small business. I grew up in one—the family business—and spent a good 15 years running it, growing it and making sure it paid my bills and the family bills and also employed 10 to 15 workers during its peaks and troughs. Having a more simplified tax system, encouraging investment in assets of up to $20,000, was a really important measure introduced by the Rudd-Gillard government way back in the early 2000s—not created by the Liberals and Nationals, as claimed by the member for Fairfax, but a Labor policy that we implemented, that we supported when we were in opposition and that we continued in government.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It's really an important thing to extend, because it improves cash flows and reduces compliance costs for small businesses. I've got some incredible small businesses right across Bennelong—in Eastwood, West Ryde, Gladesville and Lane Cove. They are mum-and-dad small businesses, including a lot of people who have just come to Australia for the first time. Migrant communities have a high representation in small-business ownership. If you take a walk through Eastwood you can see them all, vibrant and making our high streets places to go, places to be. When you go out and talk to these small businesses in our electorates, they often talk about reducing red tape and making things easier for them. They understand that compliance is important, but how can we make that simpler?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The $20,000 instant asset write-off is absolutely one of those things that makes the everyday running of a small business easier. It means a cafe can upgrade its coffee machine or buy new hardware for its point-of-sale software. It means companies can invest in those higher-price items, up to $20,000, without having to carry the depreciation over the schedule. It reduces their costs with their accountant, which we all know can be high sometimes, and they can write it off for 12 months to buy new and, importantly, second-hand assets.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This measure was first introduced by Labor, because we know that cashflow measures like this really support small businesses. It means they'll be able to immediately deduct eligible assets costing less than $20,000 rather than, as I said, tracking those assets over time. Importantly, up to 4.1 million small businesses across the country can access this instant asset write-off.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The member for Fairfax just said that they're going to reserve their right. The last time an instant asset write-off TLAB came to parliament, the coalition blocked and delayed it for at least 12 months, creating a whole heap of uncertainty for investment from the small-business sector. Those over on the other side claim to be all about small business, understanding the economics of running a small business, fighting for small businesses. Yet they sowed doubt in the small-business community about whether or not they were going to support an extension of last financial year's instant asset write-off, only passing it at the eleventh hour. Let's hope the processes go through as outlined by the member for Fairfax. Let's hope that they can get through to the Senate, that they can have a look at this bill, which they're entitled to do, obviously, and send it off to a committee and that they don't sit on it and team up with others to delay this TLAB for an unnecessary amount of time. All that will do is slow down investment from small businesses and create doubt in their minds. There are 1.281 million small businesses in New South Wales that can benefit from this measure and will benefit from this measure sooner, with confidence, the quicker this TLAB gets through the House and through the Senate.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is one measure of how this re-elected Labor government is really ensuring that we are supporting small businesses, and it's growing, I think. I know many, many members of the class of 2025 mentioned small businesses in their first speeches. They either have come from a small-business background, have worked in them or have family that have worked in them. This is the modern Labor Party—one that has roots in our industrial base but also has real connection to small and medium-sized businesses right across the country. We understand what small businesses go through, and we're here in this place representing them as much as we are workers across our economy.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In our last parliamentary term, that manifested itself as more than $2 billion in targeted supports. I'll just focus on the targeted ones for now; obviously, there are the economy-wide reforms that we put through as well. We've got a $900 million National Productivity Fund working with the states and territories to unlock productivity and cut red tape, particularly for small businesses. We've invested $33.4 million to improve payment times for small businesses, including $25.3 million in the 2024-25 budget to support the overhauled Payment Times Reporting Scheme and to enhance the regulator's ability to deliver payment outcomes for small businesses—another cash flow measure, just like the instant asset write-off. Being paid on time saves small businesses headaches in chasing up their delinquent debtors, but it also means that they can get money in their bank accounts to reinvest.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We provided over $60 million to help small businesses uplift their digital and cybersecurity capabilities, a huge and growing cost and concern for small businesses, particularly those that don't have the technical know-how of how to roll out a firewall in their local IT systems or how to deal with training of their staff—'Don't click on this,' and, 'Don't open that email.' Having the Cyber Wardens program and the Digital Solutions program is a way in which we understand that problem, and we're trying to help small businesses overcome these high-risk situations.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Of course, there are our tax cuts, famously opposed by the Liberals and Nationals. Having tax cuts for every taxpayer benefits 1.5 million sole traders. All 1.5 million of those sole traders—including tradies, hairdressers, coffee shops and other small businesses—across the country benefit when we change the income tax rates. We know that the Liberals and Nationals went to the last election with the policy of not only opposing our tax cuts but actually repealing them and trying to increase taxes. Those over there are not Menzies's party, and perhaps that's the reason why someone like me was re-elected in a seat like Bennelong.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're here supporting small businesses and workers, including sole traders. We have, of course, delivered additional energy bill relief, with another $150 in rebates until the end of the year. This builds on specific and targeted small-business electricity rebates we rolled out in the last term. As for our Cheaper Home Batteries Program, you heard the responsible minister say that over 78,000 home batteries have been installed through that. We've made sure that small businesses are eligible to accept that. They will be eligible for up to 50 kilowatt hours of battery storage capacity. I would love to see some stats on how many small businesses are taking up that battery subsidy rebate, because we acknowledge that small businesses also want to decarbonise and reduce emissions and also want to access battery technology to help reduce their bills. We've supported the hospitality sector by pausing indexation on the draught beer excise, and we've extended unfair trading practices protections to small business by strengthening the enforcement of the Franchising Code of Conduct.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 7 of this bill and our commitment to deliver an extended instant asset write-off build on what we've done to support small businesses in our term-and-a-bit in government. I would hope that the coalition cooperate in passing this bill through the House and through the Senate as soon as possible so that, in particular, schedule 7 gives small business the confidence to invest up to that $20,000 cap, a really important measure.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'll talk a little bit about some of the other schedules in my remaining time. Schedule 1 is all about corporate transparency. These provisions will align us with international best practice to stop hidden build-ups of influence in listed companies. It'll give ASIC sharper enforcement powers to ensure compliance. Essentially, schedule 1 means that the public will have better access to ownership registers of corporations, shining a light on who really controls these companies—again, another measure building on what we did last term to increase world-leading transparency measures on corporations. We've got public country-by-country reporting, disclosures of subsidiaries' tax residency and greater accountability for firms bidding for government contracts. Schedule 1 of this bill seeks to extend that principle.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Schedule 2, on charities, is really important as well. Public trust in charities is too important to be undermined by secrecy. Currently, the ACNC, the national regulator, cannot confirm whether or not a charity is under investigation, even in cases of gross and serious misconduct. This bill changes that, allowing disclosures where needed to prevent harm and assure the public that issues are being addressed. This will give the public confidence in the charities sector. It will also give donors confidence that their contributions are well placed and support our goal of doubling philanthropic giving by 2030. Again, it's another cog in the wheel of broader reforms in transparency.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There's much more to this bill, but the aspects that I've highlighted are incredibly important, and I commend them to the House.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Joyce, Barnaby MP</name>
                <name.id>e5d</name.id>
                <electorate>New England</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr JOYCE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">New England</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:21</span>):  As soon as we talk about ASIC, I will take the first opportunity I have to come in on behalf of the people of the Shield fund and First Guardian. These are superannuants who lost up to, I think, $1.2 billion. The money was basically stolen. Now, I know Macquarie Bank has now come in to bat for one of them as one of the proponents who put these forward, but this was a classic example of red flags being thrown up that were never picked up, of pressure salespeople coming in.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are people who woke up and had lost over a million dollars worth of their savings. We had people who were ready to retire and now basically have to go back to work. For how long? For as long as they can possibly work. This is a sign of the incompetence of this system to pick these things up. First Guardian and Shield were approved by four super fund trustees but rejected by others. There should be a minimum standard for a superannuation fund and limits on exposure to one. These mass-marketing campaigns—ASIC should have been looking at them and finding out what was happening.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to give a big shout-out to Melinda Kee and the work that she's been doing on behalf of these people. I told these people that I would go in to bat for them. I know that Minister Mulino has now seen them, but they sent over 4,000 emails to him, and he never replied. Now he has, but it's taken a while. What these people want is—they're saying, 'If you're the policeman, if you're looking after this, if you have the oversight of this, how did this happen to us?'</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What should be happening now is these people should be paid, and you go out and recover the money as best you can. But what we see here is sort of a silence. Macquarie Bank have come in, but it's silence from the government on the rest. It's funny how the government can find all these billions and billions of dollars for domestic billionaires and international companies for intermittent power and then, when their own workers are put out and have basically had their retirements smashed, it all becomes too quiet. I have been waiting. Maybe the minister might want to give a statement or come to the dispatch box and answer a question. I thought that that would have to happen. You would imagine that a lot of these people voted for Labor. When you blow between $1.2 billion and $1.4 billion, you would expect that it might strike a feature—as we used say in accounting terms—in your reporting back to the parliament, but no such luck.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have lost $1.2 billion from these two funds. How do we know it's not going to happen again? Why don't we have the minister come out? I hear he's an honours graduate. I think he went to Harvard. He's obviously a capable person. He should be given a question by the Prime Minister. Come up and give us a little yarn about how you are going with this. I know that Melinda Kee and all the other people in Save Our Super—that's the support group—really want to hear what's going on because they haven't heard much from this chamber. In fact, they've heard nothing. They've heard absolutely nothing.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As I said, we also have other issues. I'll give you one. Even though they have lost their money, the people aren't eligible for the age pension because Centrelink sees their super balances as still existing. Can you imagine that? You've got no money; your money has been stolen. They went out to find some of these people, and they found safes full of jewellery and cash and property disappearing overseas. People say, 'You can go on the age pension.' No, they can't, because they still deem that they have super balances. It is incredible that this has been allowed to happen.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We obviously also have health impacts. People woke up, and they thought that something was not quite right. They were trying to get their super out, and, all of sudden, it was frozen. Then they found it was not there. That can affect people emotionally—finding out you're bust. It can hurt people to find out: 'Oh, hang on; I'm broke. I've got no money.' I'm thinking of the case of one bloke who had over a million dollars in super. He blew it. Another lady had $600,000. She'd been working diligently and woke up with no money. It was just gone!</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">ASIC has oversight of this, and they have been bereft of competency, capability and an explanation as to what has happened. We should be holding the Assistant Treasurer to account. There should be an explanation to this House about exactly how this happened and some guarantee or warrant that it's not already happening again because I haven't heard one. Maybe I've been missing in these exorbitant and exciting question times, but I haven't heard anybody talk about this. I think it's about time they do. I say to Melinda and the others, 'Yes, come to Sydney.' After I've kicked up a big stink about intermittent power, I'll start kicking up a big stink about them as well and try to help them out because they need help.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We want to see what happens in the complex AFCA complaints process. We want to make sure that this gets to some form of resolution. We want to make sure that even the tax and superannuation complication issues that have been brought up by this are resolved. I'm sure the assistant minister has the academic acumen to deal with this, but I haven't seen the delivery of dealing with this. Once more, I acknowledge that he has now had a meeting with Melinda Kee, and I appreciate that. His apparent approach was very empathetic, as I read in Melinda's notes, but it can't stop there. Empathy goes so far but doesn't go as far as restoring your superannuation balance, and that's what we need.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Macquarie Bank has done the right thing. They've said, 'Okay, we had our fingers in this, and we are going to have to pay these people out.' Good! What about the rest? They had their fingers in it too. They got their commissions and their trailing fees. They made money out of it and put it in their pocket. They didn't do it for free. If they've made their money out of it, if they've received their commissions, then I think they're responsible for exactly what happened to their clients' money. This is going to be—let's see, maybe this week. One day has gone, and there are two days to go. Let's see if it gets through the tactics committee of the Labor Party to do a dorothy dixer. I want to put it on Facebook and show Melinda and show the others that you are actually as good as your word.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate interrupted.</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>ADJOURNMENT</title>
        <page.no>2086</page.no>
        <type>ADJOURNMENT</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">ADJOURNMENT</span>
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              <span style="font-weight:bold;">The DEPUTY SPEAKER (Ms Scrymgour):</span>  It being 7.30 pm, I propose the question:</span>
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            <span class="HPS-Small">That the House do now adjourn.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Fowler Electorate: Cost of Living</title>
          <page.no>2086</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Fowler Electorate: Cost of Living</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2086</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Le, Dai MP</name>
              <name.id>295676</name.id>
              <electorate>Fowler</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
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                  <a href="295676" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fowler</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:30</span>):  I rise to share a conversation with a young student in my electorate of Fowler that really moved me. They contacted me recently, telling me that they don't go on school excursions anymore. Their parents can't afford it, but it's more than that. The school itself is cutting back, unable to absorb the rising costs of bus hire, insurance and compliance. These students are now trapped within the classroom walls, missing out on the joy and learning that come from seeing the world beyond. That is the true face of the cost-of-living crisis in Fowler. It is stealing opportunity, joy and education from our children and shrinking the capacity of our schools to deliver a broad and balanced education.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Families in my community are at breaking point. Mums and dads are juggling sky-high rents, mortgage repayments and grocery bills. In areas like west Liverpool, where child poverty is at a shocking 35 per cent, this is not just tough; it is a crisis of survival that is stealing futures from our youngest. Families are sacrificing basic necessities just to keep a roof over their heads. Small businesses in Cabramatta, Fairfield and Liverpool are clinging on by sheer willpower. These are shops and cafes built on generations of hard work and sacrifice, yet they now face unprecedented costs for ingredients, freight and insurance. For many, keeping the lights on means working for free. It is heartbreaking to see their struggle, knowing that their hard work is being eroded by forces far beyond their control. In Fowler, diversity isn't a slogan; it is our strength. These are hardworking, family-oriented people who came to Australia for a better future. Yet many now tell me that they're working harder than ever just to stand still. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Energy bills are one of the biggest burdens. The latest data shows that the average family electricity bill in New South Wales has soared by more than 20 per cent in just the last 18 months. For a small business, that increase isn't just a percentage; it's the difference between hiring a staff member or closing down. It is a fundamental betrayal of trust when energy—a necessity of modern life—becomes a luxury. Our transition to cleaner energy must be affordable and achievable. The Albanese government's 82 per cent renewable target by 2030 may sound ambitious, but ambition without affordability is ideology not policy. There's no clear plan to guarantee that families and small businesses can afford the power bills that fund these transition line and grid upgrades. Big national targets mean little if Australians in Fowler are forced to choose between switching on the heater or filling their car. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Yes, the government has offered relief—a one-off 20 per cent HECS debt cut, which is welcome—but it's a single bandaid on a gaping wound. They promised cheaper child care, but that helps only the one-third of families who use formal care. For the rest, the bills keep rising. Insurance premiums are outpacing wages, and the cost of petrol and bread keeps crushing households' budgets. The result is not just financial stress but an epidemic of exhaustion and anxiety across our suburbs. That is why, in my first term, I launched the Bring Your Bill Day initiative in Fowler—a small act of solidarity to bridge the gap left by Canberra's neglect. Residents bring their electricity or gas bills to our forum, and we sit down with them to help them access rebates, negotiate fairer rates and find real savings. Later this month, we will hold another event, bringing together families, small businesses, energy providers and community not-for-profits, because no-one should be left behind, lost in red tape, when they're fighting to survive. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The people of Fowler are resilient. Their endurance is remarkable, but their capacity to absorb higher costs is not infinite. I acknowledge that a cleaner energy path is vital for our nation's future, but that path must deliver real, tangible benefits, not more burdens, to mums, dads and small-business owners who keep our communities running. A fair transition is one that keeps the lights on for everyone; not just in the corporate boardrooms, but in every kitchen, community hall and cafe across Fowler.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Middle East</title>
          <page.no>2087</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Middle East</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2087</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dreyfus, Mark MP</name>
              <name.id>HWG</name.id>
              <electorate>Isaacs</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="HWG" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr DREYFUS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Isaacs</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:35</span>):  On 7 October 2023, in a day of horror, Hamas terrorists carried out barbaric attacks on the people of southern Israel. The grief and horror of that day lives on in families, in communities and in people I know. I've felt that grief and horror since that day.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Hundreds of festivalgoers were murdered at the Nova festival, near Re'im. In nearby communities, families were brutally attacked and butchered in their homes. More than 1,200 men, women and children were murdered. More than 250 people were taken hostage. This was the greatest loss of Jewish life in a single event since the Holocaust.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">At Kibbutz Be'eri, where more than 130 people were killed, I met with Danny Majzner. He walked me through a once peaceful community that will never be the same. Danny survived, but his sister, Galit Carbone, an Australian grandmother, did not. She was murdered in her home. To walk those streets of Be'eri is to understand the weight of what was lost.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">At the site of the Nova music festival, Shalev Biton guided me through the place where 340 people were murdered. Shalev had just returned from working in Australia before attending the festival. He escaped and was able to tell me his story of horror and survival.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Hearing these experiences directly reinforced that these were not acts of war; they were terrorist atrocities, and they must never be forgotten. It is shocking that, in Australia, the barbarity of October 7 has been followed by a rise of antisemitic violence and public abuse. I spoke at Caulfield Park in Melbourne on 13 October 2023, on behalf of the Prime Minister and the Australian government, in front of 6,000 of the Melbourne Jewish community. I stood with the Premier of Victoria, with representatives from the federal and state Liberal oppositions, and with Jewish community leaders—all of us united in our condemnation of the barbarity of the Hamas attacks.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This parliament has reaffirmed that Australia stands united against hate and antisemitism, but some have used these events to drive political division and incite anger here in Australia. That path does not lead to peace. We must confront antisemitism wherever it appears—in schools, on campuses and in workplaces. And this is not just a task for government or members of parliament. The responsibility to challenge hate and antisemitism belongs to every one of us. We must work together.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Jewish community has every right to expect the crimes committed by Hamas to be condemned clearly, unequivocally and without justification of any kind. Our government has spoken out against Hamas and spoken out against antisemitism. We've also acted, and we'll continue to act. We've introduced the toughest laws in Australia's history to combat hate crimes, targeting serious forms of harmful hate speech. We've criminalised doxxing—the malicious release of personal information.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We've banned the Nazi salute and the public display of Nazi and terrorist organisation symbols in Australia. We legislated to expand the offences for praising terrorism and increased the penalty for doing so. We made the listing of Hezbollah and Hamas as terrorist organisations permanent. We criminalised the possession and dissemination of violent extremist material designed to incite violence and spread fear in the community. We've committed over $78 million to improve safety and security at Australian Jewish community sites. We wish this were not needed, but right now it is.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We appointed Jillian Segal as Australia's first special envoy to combat antisemitism. We established the National Student Ombudsman to ensure complaints of antisemitism from students are addressed swiftly and decisively. We set up a parliamentary inquiry into antisemitism on university campuses, chaired by the member for Macnamara, Josh Burns, which produced a timely and comprehensive report. As Attorney-General, I asked state and territory attorneys-general to work together to establish a national hate crimes and incidents database.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I hope for peace, but it will not come easily. The Prime Minister has reminded us today that the world must never forget the atrocities that were inflicted by Hamas. He called on us to think of those still held hostage and to join with other countries to call for the hostages to be returned immediately. The Prime Minister is right. We must not forget, and we continue to hope for a just and lasting peace.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Qantas</title>
          <page.no>2088</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Qantas</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2088</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Webster, Anne MP</name>
              <name.id>281688</name.id>
              <electorate>Mallee</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="281688" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr WEBSTER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mallee</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:40</span>):  I rise this evening to let it be known, sadly, that Qantas has ceased to be the spirit of Australia and has become the spirit of Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne. The recent decision by Qantas to close the Mildura base next April, along with bases in Canberra and Hobart, is a slap in the face to the Sunraysia region. Qantas has shown total disrespect to Mildura residents, pilots and cabin crew, who have served with distinction. Pilots and cabin crew will get just two years of support to commute from Mildura to the alternative bases in Melbourne, Sydney or Brisbane, with no guarantee after that and with unclear financial support arrangements for the interim. This is a crippling blow to regional aviation on top of the collapse of Rex and Bonza and the retreat of Virgin Australia. The move is short sighted and damaging to Mildura Airport, the busiest regional airport in Victoria.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">So-called consultation by Qantas has been nothing short of insulting. There was never a chance they were going to change their direction. Their decision was baked in from the get-go. I will call out corporates and governments that engage in tokenistic consultation impacting my constituents any day of the week. Qantas threatens to deprive Sunraysia of more professionals and disrupt families who have built their lives doing what they love where they live. Has Qantas even considered the costs to these pilots and cabin crew—the cost of purchasing a similar home in Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane; of spouses changing jobs; and of children changing schools from Mildura? That would be a clear no.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">And it's not just about jobs lost in a place like Mildura; it's whole families leaving town. These families will be lost to social circles, civic life and the economy. Losing professional people and families like this has a significant impact on regional economies like Mildura, making a mockery of an airline that was born and raised in regional Australia. Sunraysia residents and regional Australians are sick of being treated as second-class citizens by the Labor government and by big corporations with tunnel vision focused on major cities—tunnel vision that means the regions are last on the agenda. As the shadow minister for regional development, I am focused on building economic development in the regions, not on centralising operations in major cities on the east coast.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Let me be clear. This is a premeditated, Qantas-engineered closure. Qantas whittled down the Mildura workforce over years so effective rosters could not be filled. Mildura Airport is regional Victoria's largest airport. This is not a remote airstrip. The closure of Qantas bases underlines how far Qantas has drifted from its founding mission. I'm also concerned that QantasLink service reliability to Mildura will be affected because of hollowed-out local staffing. This is a repeat of Qantas's 2008 Mildura maintenance facility closure. Now, if planes break down, an engineer has to be flown in, causing significant delays or cancellations. QantasLink's latest closure also follows the August 2024 closure of their Tamworth maintenance facility, cutting 41 permanent and 10 contract roles. This is all just an expression of corporate groupthink, where profits are prioritised over people and, once again, regional Australians bear the brunt. Qantas has benefited considerably over the years from its diversified organisational structure, where group profits are balanced against losses of regional subsidiaries during downturns and challenging times. While businesses and corporations naturally focus on profitability, our national carrier—and one that received considerable support from government during the COVID pandemic—appears to have lost its way.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This isn't just about workers; it's about connectivity, livability and the future of regional Australia. Qantas needs to stop retreating into the big cities and start looking after the nation that gave it its wings.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Regional Development Australia Barossa Gawler Light Adelaide Plains</title>
          <page.no>2088</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Regional Development Australia Barossa Gawler Light Adelaide Plains</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2088</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burnell, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>300129</name.id>
              <electorate>Spence</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300129" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURNELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Spence</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:44</span>):  This evening I want to acknowledge the outstanding work of Regional Development Australia Barossa Gawler Light Adelaide Plains, an organisation that continues to drive economic growth, community collaboration and opportunity across our region. Just last week I had the privilege of joining RDABGLAP on a regional tour, a journey through our own towns and communities that showcased the projects, partnerships and people shaping the shared future of the region. To the CEO, Jennifer Lynch: thank you so much for your warm welcome, along with Rolf Binder. At every stop, I saw firsthand the progress being made—small businesses developing, infrastructure being upgraded and communities working together with confidence and pride. It reminded me that regional development is not just a concept written in reports or captured in statistics; it's lived, it's local and it's led by people with vision and passion for their home.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">While on the tour, I met with small-business owners taking their products to national and international markets, and I saw a university campus connecting students in these regions to organisations offering the highest levels of education in the country. What unites these stories is the guiding hand of RDA, connecting businesses and people to support, to funding and to opportunity. Whether it's a family owned cafe expanding its workforce, a local manufacturer diversifying into exports or a tourism venture welcoming new visitors, RDA is there, helping each one navigate the path to success. They understand that economic development begins at the grassroots. It begins with local knowledge, local networks and local ambition. Their work builds confidence, and with confidence come investment, jobs and a stronger future for the community they serve. Infrastructure is a central part of that story, including roads that connect workers to opportunity, digital networks that open doors to global markets and community facilities that strengthen the fabric of local life. These investments do more than improve access; they create fairness and ensure every family in every town has the same chance to thrive.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Another cornerstone of RDA's work is skills and workforce development. They partner with local employers, schools and training providers to equip people with the skills they need for the jobs of the future. A stand-out example of this partnership is the Barossa Regional University Campus, a vital local facility enabling Barossa students to undertake tertiary studies close to home. It's a place where ambition meets opportunity and where young people, parents returning to study and career changers alike can access the support, technology and community they need to succeed. By bringing university learning into the heart of the Barossa, the Nuriootpa study hub is breaking down barriers to higher education, keeping talent in the region and building the skilled workforce our industries need. In an era of rapid economic change, this commitment to lifelong learning, reskilling and upskilling is more important than ever.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But challenges remain. Our region continues to face skills shortages across key sectors: construction, aged care, hospitality and primary production. We know the need for continued investment in physical and digital infrastructure is critical to unlocking the region's full potential. We must keep backing our small businesses who turn local ideas into national industries. These challenges are not barriers; they are opportunities to be seized. With RDA leading the way, our region is well placed to rise to the occasion.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to take the opportunity to thank the board, the staff and their local partners across the Barossa, Gawler, Light and the northern Adelaide Plains. Their work is practical, purposeful and grounded in the needs and aspirations of the people they serve. They bring optimism where it is needed and unity where it is most powerful. Regional development is about more than economics; it is about community, identity and opportunity. It is about making sure that every young person, every family and every worker can build a life and a future right at home and not have to move to a big city to work or study.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our region is proud. It is innovative and it is forward looking, and with the continued support and leadership of RDA it is a region that will not just grow but flourish. I thank them for their vision, their partnership and their unwavering belief in the potential of our region, and I reaffirm my commitment to standing beside them as together we build a stronger, more connected and more prosperous future for the Barossa, Gawler, Light and the northern Adelaide Plains.</span>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Bruce Highway</title>
          <page.no>2089</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Bruce Highway</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2089</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Willcox, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>286535</name.id>
              <electorate>Dawson</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="286535" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WILLCOX</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Dawson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:49</span>):  I rise today to speak about the Bruce Highway. Mr Speaker, you would understand about the Bruce Highway, being from Queensland. It's the main highway that connects Brisbane to Cairns, circa 1,600 kilometres of stretch. This vital piece of infrastructure, this vital highway, is how our farmers get their produce to market. It's how we get our supplies up from the city. It's how our families drive around. It's how our families deliver children to school. But, unfortunately, this has been neglected by the Albanese Labor government. There's been no new money in the first term. It's simply not acceptable.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Yet I was really pleased that before the election the Prime Minister made an election commitment of $7.2 billion to go towards the highway. I thought this was really good, and I'm on the record of actually thanking the Prime Minister. But, unfortunately, less than two days after that, the Minister for Finance, Katy Gallagher, said, 'There's not any money available.' The Prime Minister rechecked that and said, 'Yes, there's money available.' The finance minister said, 'No, there's not.' Then we had the Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government say, 'Well, no, the money is available.' So, at this point, we were very confused. Is the money available? Is the money not available? Then we had Senate estimates. Senate estimates revealed that there is only $432 million available over the next three years. Now, $7.2 billion is $7,200 million, and there's only $432 million available over the next three years. There's a lot of drinking silver between those two numbers. How is that going to work? We're used to the Prime Minister telling a few porky pies, such as the '$275 better off on the power bill'. That didn't happen.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But we really need this money for the Bruce Highway. We need centre line separation. The pavement—we have a conga line of potholes, one after the other, and we've got a wet season approaching. The fog lines are too narrow. Because of the centre line separation, if we have a car travelling north at 100 kilometres an hour and then a car travelling south at 100 kilometres an hour and they have a head-on collision, that's like a 200 kilometre an hour running straight into a brick wall, and, unfortunately, people are losing their lives. In my electorate of Dawson, which runs from Mackay through to Townsville, it's rated as the worst section in the whole of the Bruce Highway. It's not acceptable.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I've invited the Minister for Transport and Main Roads, the Hon. Brent Mickelberg, joined by Minister Amanda Camm, from the Crisafulli government, to come to my electorate, which they did. I'm really happy that they did. I showed them the Farleigh Habana Road intersection with the Bruce Highway. This is a problem. There have been accidents there. Now, with the increasing traffic from the quarry and the cement works, there are a lot of heavy vehicle movements around there. I've called on them to please prioritise that and move that intersection forward. They've said that they will take that on board, so I'm really hoping that the state will then convince the Albanese Labor government to come up with this money and make that intersection a little safer.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The other thing the Albanese Labor government changed is that it has always been, over a long history, 80 per cent funded by the federal government and 20 per cent funded by the state government. Unfortunately, the Albanese Labor government changed that to a fifty-fifty arrangement. But I'm really pleased that with the $7.2 billion, although it's not there, they did promise to bring back the 80-20 arrangement. So, providing that money comes back, let's see how that goes.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I think it's time that this government stopped giving us potholes in policy and started paving the way to progress. The Bruce Highway shouldn't be a road to ruin; it should be a road to results. Please, Mr Albanese—you are the Prime Minister. Make good on your promise—at least make good on this one. Put the money back into the Bruce, because lives depend on it. It's so important to my electorate of Dawson. </span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Climate Change</title>
          <page.no>2090</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Climate Change</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2090</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Briskey, Jo MP</name>
              <name.id>263427</name.id>
              <electorate>Maribyrnong</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="263427" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BRISKEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Maribyrnong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:54</span>):  Climate change is the defining challenge of our time. One-in-a-hundred-year floods, record-breaking heat waves, unprecedented bushfires—these are no longer rare events and are becoming our new normal. Our country has always faced natural disasters, but, year after year, they are becoming more destructive, more unpredictable and more extreme. The science is clear. These are the consequences of climate change.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In my electorate, communities in Kensington and Flemington were devastated by floods recently. Across Victoria, towns that have faced bushfires or floods once or twice a decade are now dealing with them almost every year. When we switch on the news, we see it everywhere. Our Pacific neighbours are seeing entire communities displaced due to climate change, and countries across the globe are counting lives lost as floods and fires strike in the places they never have before. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Climate change is real. It is happening now, and it demanded action years ago. Instead, we had to endure the decades of the climate wars, fuelled and weaponised by those opposite. In 2022, the Australian people voted to end the division. They voted for action, and action is exactly what this Labor government has delivered. Since coming to office, Labor has delivered the biggest lift in climate action this country has seen. We have legislated net zero by 2050 and approved record numbers of renewables projects, and we are on track for 82 per cent renewables by 2030. Last month, for the first time in our nation's history, renewables delivered more to our electricity grid than coal. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">After a decade of delay, we know we need to accelerate. That's why we have accepted the most ambitious but achievable target as advised by the independent Climate Change Authority: 62 to 70 per cent cuts to emissions by 2035. This sets out our ambition to halve our emissions, doubling the pace of decarbonisation, and is exactly what the science demands. Those climate deniers opposite say it is too much, and others may say it's not enough. The reality is that it is ambitious but, most importantly, achievable. It is ambitious because it is a clear step up from our 2030 target. It sends a strong investment signal and demonstrates Australia's credibility as a partner in the global fight against climate change. It's achievable because we already have the foundations in place: the safeguard mechanism, our Future Made in Australia agenda, the New Vehicle Efficiency Standard and cheaper home batteries—programs that are already working for Australians like Rhonda and Mark in Travancore in my electorate. They welcomed Minister Bowen and me into their home to show us how their home battery powers their household, cuts their bills and lets them invest in more renewables. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Australians are ready for this transition. They want to be a part of it. That's why we're investing $40 million into EV charging to accelerate the rollout of our kerbside and fast EV charging across the suburbs and $50 million for local sporting clubs that are doing their bit to decarbonise and drive climate action. Our ambition is backed by science and expert advice. Importantly, it's been delivered by a practical plan. Our net zero plan sets out a clear pathway to 2035 on the way to net zero by 2050. It identifies five decarbonisation priorities: clean electricity across the economy, lowering emissions by electrification and efficiency, expanding clean fuel use, accelerating new technologies and scaling up carbon removals. This target is in Australia's national interest. It will protect our way of life. It will keep our exporters, farmers and industries competitive in a decarbonising world. It will drive investment, create good jobs and ensure that we can take up the opportunity of the biggest global economic, technological and energy transformation that we have seen since the industrial revolution. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We are already seeing the benefits. The last two elections proved it. Australians want action not obstruction. They want cheaper, cleaner energy. They want the jobs in industries of the future. This is more than just cutting emissions. It's about opportunity. It's about security. It's about building a stronger, cleaner and more prosperous Australia. This is our moment to lead; to protect the places that we love; to cut energy bills; to create good, sustainable jobs; and to hand to our kids a future that is safer and fairer. Our 2035 target is ambitious, it is achievable and it's absolutely necessary. My colleagues and I on this side of the chamber are here and determined to deliver it.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">House adjourned at </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">20</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">:</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">00</span>
                </span>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>NOTICES</title>
        <page.no>2091</page.no>
        <type>NOTICES</type>
      </debateinfo>
      <debate.text>
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          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">NOTICES</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Presentation</title>
          <page.no>2091</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Presentation</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">The following notices were given:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Burke</span> to present a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to migration and citizenship, and for related purposes. (<span style="font-style:italic;">Home Affairs Legislation Amendment (2025 Measures No. 2) Bill 2025</span>)</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Dr Chalmers</span> to present a Bill for an Act to repeal certain Acts and provisions of Acts and to make various amendments of the statute law of the Commonwealth, and for related purposes. (<span style="font-style:italic;">Regulatory Reform Omnibus Bill 2025</span>)</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Rowland</span> to present a Bill for an Act to amend the <span style="font-style:italic;">Criminal Code Act 1995</span>, and for other purposes. (<span style="font-style:italic;">Criminal Code Amendment (State Sponsors of Terrorism) Bill 2025</span>)</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Rowland</span> to present a Bill for an Act to establish the Commonwealth Parole Board, and for related purposes. (<span style="font-style:italic;">Commonwealth Parole Board Bill 2025</span>)</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Rowland</span> to present a Bill for an Act to deal with consequential and transitional matters arising from the enactment of the <span style="font-style:italic;">Commonwealth Parole Board Act 2025</span>, and for related purposes. (<span style="font-style:italic;">Commonwealth Parole Board (Consequential and Transitional Provisions) Bill 2025</span>)</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Khalil</span> to present a Bill for an Act to amend the <span style="font-style:italic;">Defence Act 1903</span>, and for related purposes. (<span style="font-style:italic;">Defence Amendment (Parliamentary Joint Committee on Defence) Bill 2025</span>)</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Dr Leigh</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That, in accordance with the provisions of the <span style="font-style:italic;">Public Works Committee Act 1969</span>, the following proposed work be referred to the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Public Works for consideration and report: Attorney-General's Department—Proposed fit-out of existing leased premises at 3-5 National Circuit, Barton, ACT. </span>
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            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                </span>
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Private Members' business</span>
              </span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Dr Haines</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) recognises that:</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) 28 per cent of the Australian population live outside major cities;</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) people living in rural and remote areas have higher rates of hospitalisations, deaths and injury and also have poorer access to, and use of, primary health care services, than people living in major cities, yet investment in regional and rural health is falling behind, leaving regional communities with outdated facilities, insufficient training places and healthcare students struggling to train locally; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) the lack of open, competitive and needs-based hospital infrastructure funds means regional and rural hospitals have no transparent, competitive Commonwealth funding pathways to build critical infrastructure to deliver health services for the growing border population into the future;</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) notes that premiers are calling for increased funding from the federal government for hospitals, including specifically for infrastructure; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) calls on the Government to establish a $2 billion Building Regional and Rural Hospitals Fund to provide competitive and needs-based investment for new buildings, equipment and planning, so health services in regional, rural and remote areas classified as MM2 and higher can apply for hospital infrastructure funding to meet the needs of their communities now and into the future.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Leeser</span> to present a Bill for an Act to amend the <span style="font-style:italic;">Crimes Act 1914</span>, and for related purposes. (<span style="font-style:italic;">Crimes </span><span style="font-style:italic;">Amendment (Mandatory Minimum Sentences for Child Sexual Abuse) Bill 2025</span>)</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Katter</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) acknowledges that:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the Australian banana industry:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(i) is worth $1.3 billion to the Australian economy and is the dominant employer in northern Australia; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(ii) represents more than 540 growers and employs over 15,000 people;</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) Australia, being a continent which until the 1800s had no farming, remains free of many of the world's most devasting vegetation diseases, including Moko, Black Sigatoka, and Banana Freckle, however, these diseases are found throughout plantations in the Philippines causing widespread crop losses and often producing a flawed, largely inedible product;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) these diseases will destroy Australia's banana industry and seriously damage our virgin, natural wonderland and threaten other food production activities;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(d) the US Department of Labor, the Centre for Trade Union and Human Rights (CTUHR), and the Ecumenical Institute for Labor Education and Research (EILER) have all found significant instances of poor work conditions in banana plantations across the Philippines, including widespread child labour;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(e) the Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry is currently considering an application to import bananas from the Philippines, and has advised that it will only consider the risk of disease; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(f) bad enough in itself, the application does not consider the need for imports, the disparity in environmental conditions, chemical usage, wages and the various other factors that fail to make free trade, fair trade; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) calls on the Government to take immediate and decisive action to protect Australia's banana industry by ensuring that the:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) application to import bananas from the Philippines is rejected, due to:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(i) unacceptable biosecurity risks that will create real danger to not only Australia's banana industry but also to Australia's virgin nature wonderland as Philippine banana imports will be the vector of a myriad of diseases including Black Sigatoka, Moko Disease and Banana Freckle;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(ii) economic impact of decimating Australia's $1.3 billion banana industry, specifically considering the huge social and economic impact on communities where bananas are grown;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(iii) devastating environmental impacts of bananas grown in the Philippines that have vastly different chemical and pesticide usage and lower overall environmental standards;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(iv) the difference in cost of production including wages and working conditions, for example, the average wage of $50 per week in the Philippines verses $1,153.30 per week in Australia; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(v) significant evidence of child labour throughout Philippine banana plantations, as reported by the US Department of Labor, CTUHR and EILER, with studies indicating that 22.5 per cent of households in banana growing regions have a child working in banana plantations;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry immediately reject the import application as there is no overriding need nor demand for the imported product; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) Government immediately introduce legislation that acknowledges our other international obligations including, but not restricted to, slavery, child labour and other unfair working conditions and wages, and environmental impacts including pesticide and chemical usage.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Dr Ryan</span> to present A Bill for an Act to establish a scheme to promote and enhance transparency, integrity and honesty in dealings between lobbyists and Government representatives, and for related purposes. (<span style="font-style:italic;">Lobbying (Improving Government Honesty and Trust) Bill 2025</span>)</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Burns</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) acknowledges the Government's commitment to help first home buyers realise their dream of ownership by:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) bringing forward the launch of the 5 per cent deposits scheme for all first home buyers to 1 October 2025, instead of next year;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) expanding the 5 per cent deposits scheme with unlimited places and increased property price caps;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) guaranteeing a portion of a first home buyer's home loan through the 5 per cent deposits scheme, so they can purchase with a lower deposit and avoid lenders' mortgage insurance; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(d) offering eligible single parent families with a saved 2 per cent deposit access to the Family Home Guarantee; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) notes that one hundred and eighty thousand Australians have already been helped into home ownership through the Government's housing policies.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Ryan</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) acknowledges the Government's commitment to strengthen Medicare, including $8.5 billion to deliver an additional 18 million bulk billed general practitioner (GP) visits each year, hundreds of nursing scholarships and thousands more doctors in the largest GP training program ever;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) notes:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) this measure has already seen practices around Australia become fully bulk billed, with nine out of ten GP visits expected to be bulk billed by 2030 and around 4,800 fully bulk billed practices, which is triple the current number; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) that while the Government is expanding access to bulk billing by expanding the bulk billing incentive, by contrast the Leader of the Opposition, as the Minister for Health:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(i) never increased Medicare rebates, the only health minister in Australian history to do so;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(ii) doubled-down on the then Government's $50 billion cut to hospitals; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(iii) continued the fight for the then Leader of the Opposition's GP tax; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) further acknowledges that only the current Government will strengthen Medicare.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Lawrence</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) acknowledges the Government will make available an initial $12 billion towards the Henderson Defence Precinct to deliver continuous naval shipbuilding and an AUKUS presence in Western Australia, meaning:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) record investments across shipbuilding and in AUKUS in the west;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) support for approximately 10,000 direct jobs over the next two decades;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) opportunities for small and medium sized businesses across the state and Australia; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(d) certainty for industry that will partner on the construction of infrastructure and facilities; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) notes that the Government continues to increase defence spending to record levels to deliver the capabilities Australia needs through measures like:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the arrival of the first two of 29 Apache attack helicopters;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) $1.7 billion for a new fleet of autonomous maritime vehicles including Ghost Shark for the navy;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) selection of the Mogami-class frigate as our new general purpose frigates;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(d) boosting Australia's long-range strike capability with the Precision Strike Missiles and $2.12 billion in additional stocks of advanced medium-range missiles to strengthen Australia's air defence and aerial strike capability; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(e) $1.3 billion investment over the next ten years in counter-drone capabilities and technologies.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Briskey</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) acknowledges the enormous changes that artificial intelligence (AI) will create for Australia and Australians;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) welcomes the Government's commitment to ensuring that AI:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) contributes positively to a Future Made in Australia;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) delivers benefits to all Australians, not just a small number of individuals and businesses; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) is developed, deployed and used in a way that keeps Australians safe; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) recognises the work being led by the Government to ensure that Australians are ready to take advantage of AI, including, more than:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) $47 million for the Next Generation Graduate program;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) one million free 'introduction to AI' scholarships delivered from TAFE NSW to give Australians the fundamental skills to adopt and use AI; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) $17 million to create four AI Adopt Centres, which are supporting businesses across the country to use responsible AI enabled services to enhance their businesses.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Coffey</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) notes the:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) Government has accepted the Climate Change Authority's independent advice and has set Australia's climate change target at a range of between 62 to 70 per cent on 2005 emissions;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) release of the National Climate Risk Assessment, which found that no Australian community will be immune from climate risks that will be cascading, compounding and concurrent; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) release of the Department of the Treasury's modelling on 18 September, which found Australia's ambitious and achievable plan to reduce emissions will support continued economic growth, higher living standards and employment, including 2.3 million more people being employed by 2035, and Australia's economy being up to $2 trillion worse off cumulatively by 2050 compared to a disorderly transition scenario;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) recognises the Government is delivering on its promises which Australians voted for to act on climate change, upgrade our energy system and seize the economic opportunity before our nation; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) calls on the Opposition to leave the climate wars in the past, solve its internal divisions and join the rest of the Parliament in taking meaningful action on climate change.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Chester</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) acknowledges that:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) some of Australia's leading forest scientists have acknowledged we have the knowledge, practical skills and regulatory framework to sustainably mange our native forests, including for timber harvesting on small, carefully targeted areas;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) we have a world-class and sustainable native hardwood timber industry in Australia which delivers social, economic, cultural and environmental benefits for our nation;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) timber industry workers provide invaluable skills and practical support to their communities during times of natural disasters, particularly bushfires;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(d) banning native timber harvesting in Australia will result in more imported timber products, often sourced from countries with poorer environmental protocols; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(e) a sustainable native hardwood timber industry is part of the answer to reducing Australia's carbon emissions as timber products sequester carbon in our floorboards, furniture and other timber products;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) notes that the Victorian and New South Wales state governments have made illogical decisions to ban native hardwood timber harvesting which is based on political science, not environmental science; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) urges the Government to:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) recognise the sovereign capability to maintain a sustainable native hardwood timber industry is an issue of national importance because of the impact on house prices, supply chain considerations, carbon sequestration, biodiversity and community safety;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) support a taxpayer-funded public information campaign to explain the importance of the native hardwood timber industry and dispel the myths perpetuated by environmental activists; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) resist any further attempts to ban the sustainable harvesting of native hardwood timber.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Buchholz</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) notes:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the National Centre for Vocational Education Research advises that there are 320,830 active apprentices and trainees in training, representing a drop of 107,320 apprentices and trainees in training compared to when the Opposition was last in office;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) that new data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics released in September 2025 shows Australia's building approvals are collapsing, with total dwelling approvals down by 8.2 per cent and private sector apartment approvals down by 22 per cent; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) the critical link between the collapse in apprentice and trainee numbers and the shortage of skilled workers needed to address Australia's growing housing crisis, with fewer tradespeople available to build the homes Australians desperately need;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) recognises that the housing crisis is being compounded by this failure in skills and training, leading to higher costs, longer delays, and fewer Australians able to achieve the dream of home ownership;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) condemns the Government for failing to ensure an adequate pipeline of skilled workers to meet Australia's needs, and for overseeing a collapse in both apprentice numbers and housing approvals at a time when the nation can least afford it; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(4) calls on the Government to take immediate and urgent action to:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) rebuild apprentice and trainee numbers across the economy, particularly in construction and housing trades;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) work with industry and employers to support real pathways into skills and training; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) develop a credible strategy to ensure Australia has the skilled workforce required to meet current and future housing demand.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Violi</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) notes that:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the Government's spending will reach its highest level outside of recession since 1986;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) since the Government came to office, it has added $100 billion to the national debt, set to breach $1 trillion this financial year and $1.2 trillion by the time of the next election;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) the Government's new decisions since coming to office total a shocking $22 billion, and had the Government shown any fiscal discipline to find savings to fund the new commitments, the Government would be delivering a healthy surplus today;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(d) we are spending $50,000 on interest every minute, which is money that cannot be spent on essential services;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(e) the persistence in inflation has pushed out the prospect of further interest rate relief with markets now expecting it may be 'one and done', that is, for interest rates to remain at around 3.25 per cent indefinitely, little more than one rate cut lower than the current level; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(f) millions of Australian mortgage holders will have repayments on the average mortgage set to remain at $1,700 higher per month indefinitely under this Government than under the previous Government; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) calls on the Government to reintroduce the quantifiable fiscal rules that every recent government of either political persuasion has adopted, and to heed the calls of leading economists like former Treasury Secretary Ken Henry, and former Reserve Bank of Australia Governor Phillip Lowe, as well as leading international organisations like the International Monetary Fund to introduce such rules.</span>
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                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Burnell</span> to move:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) notes with great concern that:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) Australia's commercial kangaroo industry, which generates an estimated $200 million annually and supports roughly 3,000 jobs has come under pressure due to ongoing misinformation campaigns;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) coordinated efforts by activist groups have resulted in major international brands distancing themselves from kangaroo by-products, despite being durable, sustainable and versatile; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) this false narrative not only harms regional and local economies but also undermines the conservation goals of our regulated kangaroo management program;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) further notes the kangaroo industry in Australia is subject to strict sustainability guidelines to maintain population balance, prevent starvation, and overall to protect animal welfare;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) highlights the need for collaboration with the kangaroo industry to ensure its long-term future through the promotion of reliable, science-based information and clear public messaging; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(4) urges all Members of the House to support the commercial kangaroo sector as a sustainable and valuable industry that contributes both economically and environmentally to Australia.</span>
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                <span style="&#xA;    color:#FFFFFF;&#xA;  ">Federation Chamber</span>
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                <a href="" type="">Tuesday, 7 October 2025</a>
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                <span style="font-weight:bold;">The </span>
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                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Lawrence</span>
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                </span>took the chair at 12:30.</span>
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            <a href="Federation Chamber" type="">Tuesday, 7 October 2025</a>
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        <title>GRIEVANCE DEBATE</title>
        <page.no>2096</page.no>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">GRIEVANCE DEBATE</span>
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            <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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            <span class="HPS-Small">That grievances be noted.</span>
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          <title>Tasmania: Sport Infrastructure</title>
          <page.no>2096</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Tasmania: Sport Infrastructure</span>
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              <page.no>2096</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Wilkie, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>C2T</name.id>
              <electorate>Clark</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WILKIE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Clark</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:30</span>):  The majority of Tasmanians have a monumental grievance right now—that, at the demand of the AFL, Tasmania build a third AFL-grade stadium in a state of about half a million people when we already have two stadiums on which AFL games are played. For a start, there's the very good facility up in Launceston, which has a capacity just shy of 20,000 spectators, and across the river from the electorate of Clark, there's the stadium in Bellerive, which also has a capacity of about 20,000 spectators. So why on earth would the AFL bully the Tasmanian government, and, through it, the Tasmanian community, to build not just a third stadium at beautiful Macquarie Point but a third stadium with a roof? For heaven's sake, why does the AFL insist that Tasmania spend all of that money to have a third stadium at Macquarie with a roof? It beggars belief. No wonder a clear majority of Tasmanians think this proposal—well, this demand—by the AFL is not needed. They don't want it, and they can't afford it.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I make the point repeatedly that we already have two stadiums on which AFL games are played very successfully, and, frankly, they rarely fill. Why they would want a third stadium with only a capacity of 3,000 extra seats beggars belief. The majority of Tasmanians don't want it. There has been poll after poll after poll which has shown clearly that just about everyone in Tasmania wants a team and just about everyone in Tasmania reckons we deserve a team. I mean, we're one of the foundation states when it comes to providing players to the AFL. But a clear majority of Tasmanians don't think we should go ahead with this. We shouldn't be spending billions of dollars on a stadium at a time like this.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Let me dwell on the issue of the cost. When the Tasmanian government agreed to the AFL demand for a stadium, the Tasmanian government said that it would originally cost $715 million, of which only $375 million would be taxpayers' money, and the Premier famously said that the taxpayer would spend 'not one red cent more'. What's happened since that announcement? For a start, the Tasmanian government hasn't been able to find one single equity investor from the private sector. And why would they? Because a detailed analysis showed that the return on an investment for an investor, whether it be the private or the public sector, would be about 50c in the dollar. No wonder the whole idea of a private investment in this was nonsense from the start. Anyway, time goes on. Now we're up for the whole $715 million. As time went on, the cost increased to $755 million. It was then put at $945 million, all from the taxpayer. And just recently the Tasmanian Planning Commission had a detailed look at this and put the cost of the stadium at $1.13 billion, and calculating the cost of debt over a decade, the cost—all to the taxpayer!—will be an estimated $1.8 billion. I mean, this is just going through the roof. This is in a state of half a million people.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Mind you, to complicate things even further, I can't find a competent engineer or architect in Hobart who says that you can build a 23,000-seat, roofed AFL stadium in Tasmania, where the costs of building are higher than the mainland, for anything less than $2 billion. So, if you add the cost of debt over 10 years, we're looking at a total cost to the taxpayer—wait for it!—of about $3½ billion. That's about 10 times higher than what Australian taxpayers were originally promised would be the bill. No wonder the majority of Tasmanians think we can't afford it. It's because we can't afford it! The state is broke. For a conservative government, you'd think they would take financial management more seriously than others. The state at the moment is heading for a forecast debt of about $14 billion over the forward estimates. Then you've got to add a couple of billion dollars for this stadium—heaven's sake!</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the most upsetting things in recent times was this Tasmanian Planning Commission report. Knowing that the Tasmanian Planning Commission was looking into this in some detail, those of us who don't want the stadium thought: 'Okay, we'll finally have a detailed report. Common sense will break out, and the government will use it as an opportunity to reverse out of this agreement with the AFL or to renegotiate the agreement with the AFL to at least not have a roof on the stadium.' I'm told by engineers and architects that'd probably save about $700 million. But what did the Tasmanian government do on the day the report was released? The Premier thanked the commission for their work and said that they would ignore the report. After a couple of days of soul-searching the Labor opposition came out as well and thanked the commission for its work and said they would ignore the report—that politicians know better than engineers, architects and professional project managers. So they're going ahead with the stadium, and the TPC report is being ignored.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We might cut the Tasmanian government some slack if they had a clean track record of competence at developing and delivering projects and if we could have some confidence that they would do this right. But those of you who have been paying attention to the media in recent times probably have been unable to avoid the fiasco with the new <span style="font-style:italic;">Spirit of Tasmania III</span> and <span style="font-style:italic;">Spirit of Tasmania IV</span> ferries. Let me tell you what happened with them. The cost for them was additionally put at $850 million for both vessels. It then blew out by another $94 million because the cost of steel went up and the contractor went broke, and the Tasmanian taxpayer had to pay the foreign shipyard a bailout. Then we learned in just the last couple of weeks—it was one of those whoopsadaisy moments—that the Tasmanian government has announced the hulls are not strong enough, the hulls on both vessels need to be strengthened, and it's anyone's guess what that's going to cost. Two large Bass Strait ferries have got to have their hulls strengthened. What is that going to cost? For a start they'll have to sail the ships to somewhere like Singapore. They have to slip them, put them in a dry dock and, what, replate the hull? How many hundreds of millions of dollars is that going to cost?</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">That of course is not the end of the ferry saga. It turns out that when the ferries had been built someone realised they'd forgotten to build appropriate berthing for the ferries in Devonport. The ships are twice the size of the old <span style="font-style:italic;">S</span><span style="font-style:italic;">pirits</span>. They need totally new berths. They were initially estimated, before they forgot to build them, at $90 million to be completed by 2024. The cost of berths, which they've now started to build, has blown out—wait for it; as I said, this is one of those whoopsadaisy moments—to $493 million. That's the cost to now build the berths, and they won't be completed until 2027 if you believe the state government's current figures—for heaven's sakes! This is the state government that reckons they're going to build a stadium for $1.13 billion. I reckon, as do a lot of other people, with the cost of debt over a decade it's going to be more like $3½ billion.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's not like everything else in the state is fine. It's not like we've got nothing better to spend our dough on down in Tasmania. There are currently over 5,000 applicants on the waiting list for social housing. That's up 10 per cent in the last 12 months. There are an estimated 600 applicants on the public-housing waiting list that are entirely without housing—that is, sleeping in a tent or in a car. That's in a state of about half a million people. Yet the state government thinks it's okay to spend billions of dollars to buckle to demands from the AFL to build a third AFL stadium, within sight of one of the existing AFL stadiums, with an additional capacity of only 3,000 more spectators. This is just madness.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's not just housing that's in strife in Tasmania. Look at health. Our elective-surgery waiting list, as of August this year, is over 9,000 people out of a state of half a million people. That's up 11 per cent over the last 12 months. The median wait time in Tasmania for the public dentist currently averages 1,366 days. That's nearly four years to see a dentist if you've got a toothache and you can't afford to go to the private sector. For heaven's sake! Have we got a grievance? Yes, we've got a hell of a grievance. I'm giving voice to a great many Tasmanians when I say that of course we want a team, but we won't be bullied by the AFL, and we won't send the state further into bankruptcy by building this ridiculous stadium that the Premier and the opposition leader, I'm sorry to say, have turned into a vanity project that they will build against the advice of all the experts. Who knows where the money's going to come from? From my children and their children.</span>
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          <title>Banking and Financial Services</title>
          <page.no>2097</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>2097</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Soon, Zhi MP</name>
              <name.id>298618</name.id>
              <electorate>Banks</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298618" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr SOON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Banks</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:40</span>):  I rise today to speak about the shrinking access to services in our town centre—especially banking and post—in my community and, indeed, right across our country. Recently I was made aware that the Revesby post office had been scheduled for closure by Australia Post. This is extremely disappointing news for the community of Revesby, Revesby Heights and Picnic Point, as well as the broader area. The Revesby post office is a key fixture in our local town centre. It's close to the major supermarkets and connected to all of the surrounding suburbs by multiple, regular public transport links, making it by far the most accessible Australia Post location in the area. Further, Revesby is a growing community. A substantial development of new homes has been approved, quite literally across the road from the existing post office site. We need more services, not fewer, to cater for the growth in population in the area.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">As a reminder to the House, while Australia Post may be owned by the government, it was corporatised in 1989. It is incredibly clear to me, and to the community that I represent, that Australia Post has made the wrong call in regard to Revesby post office. Both the closure of bank branches in surrounding suburbs and the centrality of the location, on Selems Parade in Revesby, has made this post office the go-to place for in-person banking through Bank@Post—a service that is so disproportionately used by older members of our community, who have less readily available alternatives, particularly for those not comfortable with online banking. Understandably, this anxiety around using online services has been exacerbated by the proliferation of scams.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Alongside the state member for East Hills, Kylie Wilkinson; Canterbury Bankstown Mayor Bilal El-Hayek; and Revesby ward Councillor David Walsh, I am advocating for this decision to be reversed in the interest of local residents in and around Revesby. In September we launched a petition to demonstrate the strong community support for the retention of the post office at its current location in Revesby. The community has backed it in significantly. As of this morning, 2,338 people have lent their support across Revesby, Revesby Heights, Panania, Picnic Point, East Hills and Padstow.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We also got a fair bit of media attention, This includes an online news piece published the same week we went out to the community for input that hadn't been sought by Australia Post. I look forward to continuing to have discussions with Australia Post about the future of the post office in Revesby, and how we can ensure that the community does not lose access to the services that remain much needed by so many.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Indeed, I am not the only member of this place that has seen bank branch and post office closures in their electorate. It is, unfortunately, a common story for members across this House. Like many members from greater Sydney, my colleague and electorate neighbour, the member for Barton, currently has a similarly important post office closing in Kingsgrove, and the withdrawal of services at the former Rockdale post office site is another example.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">While Australia Post has had a significant retreat in terms of the number of retail outlets, it is not the only example of retreat from services in our communities and town centres. Similarly, bank branches have been withdrawn from local communities. While Revesby has been spared the worst of bank branch closures—losing the National Australia Bank location in 2022 and still maintaining the other three big banks—other suburbs in my electorate have not been so lucky. East Hills, for example—no bank branch. Panania used to have four bank branches but, since the CBA closed in 2014, it has none. Padstow has no bank branches since the CBA closed the branch, after justifying the closure at Panania. Picnic Point—no bank branch. Milperra—no bank branch. In Riverwood both the CBA and the National Australia Bank closed—again, no bank branch left. Narwee—no bank branch; Lugarno—no bank branch; Peakhurst—no bank branch; Beverly Hills—no bank branch. In Oatley, CBA, St George and Bendigo Bank all closed—and, like the others, there is no bank branch left. In Penshurst, CBA closed a long time ago, and now it has no bank branch. Blakehurst, Connells Point and South Hurstville all have no bank branches. Lastly, in Mortdale, Westpac closed, CBA remains, and, perhaps the strangest of all, it has an ANZ bank branch operating as a cashless bank branch.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is an unfortunate pattern of events that often bank branches close and offer the consolation that you can do your personal banking at the local post office. But, as the post office closed, there is no viable alternative for in-person banking services for many in our town centres and our high streets. In the digital age, it is just so important to make sure people have options. As I mentioned before, scams are more common and complex than ever. It is so important, particularly for older Australians, to have an in-person service, where they can speak to another person within easy reach. The retreat of these two services has derailed that significantly. This has a particular impact when the needs of the individuals are complex, and this is why in-person services are so important.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The effects of these services closing have been well known for quite some time. The Hawker inquiry into the level of banking and financial services in regional and rural communities in the late 1990s outlined issues quite clearly. Academics also weighed in at around the same time with studies into the effects on regional and rural communities. The Senate Standing Committee on Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport conducted an inquiry during the last term of parliament about this very same topic. These studies found significant negative social impacts, including socioeconomic marginalisation and financial exclusion, in the bush. It was also noted that bank closures were devastating small businesses and local economies, with people travelling to larger regional centres to do their banking and doing their shopping while there instead of keeping money in their local communities. Perhaps the most concerning though was that faith in the future of regional towns was dramatically weakened, according to this research.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">While these effects are particularly pronounced in regional communities, they can also be seen in metropolitan areas, like the one I serve in this House. Suburbs lose their bank branches and post offices, and a large subsection of consumers and community members go to large suburban centres to do their admin and take their business with them, harming the small businesses in the places they live, including in places like Revesby. Research out of the United Kingdom against the background of legislation to protect access to basic banking services from only a few years ago indicated that the closure of bank branches was entirely eliminating access to cash and financial services in some communities. On the flip side, the Australian Banking Association claims that nearly 99 per cent of banking transactions are now taking place digitally, be that online or otherwise, and foot traffic to branches has fallen significantly in recent years. These statistics have been used to justify bank branch closures for quite a while.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But the element missing from this equation is the consideration of the community and the social licence upon which these business operate. The ongoing acceptance and approval of a business from the community and other key stakeholders for its operation are the often unseen and unappreciated part of their business success. Organisations like banks and the post office should recognise that the level of frustration in the community with the industry is palpable. Nearly 2,500 people in my community alone have expressed their frustration in little more than a month, and there is an unquantifiable groundswell in the background behind that as well and an ongoing concern about access to services. In my first speech to this House, I talked about making government more human. The same applies to our key services outside government.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">While there isn't a single clear solution to this issue, I think a good place to start would be encouraging organisations like our banks and Australia Post to consider their role in the communities they serve and the impact that constant widespread closures are having on their social licence—in addition, to consider a solution to how we preserve the access to face-to-face transactions, in spite of the dramatic spike in digital banking communications, in order to protect Australians and in particular old Australians in our communities. We must remember: these businesses, including Australia Post, are community businesses. They are there to provide essential services to support those in our community, and, unfortunately, with some of their closures, the impact is being felt by those in our community who need their support most.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Grey Electorate</title>
          <page.no>2099</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Grey Electorate</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2099</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Venning, Tom MP</name>
              <name.id>315434</name.id>
              <electorate>Grey</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
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                  <a href="315434" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr VENNING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grey</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:50</span>):  I rise to raise my grievance in relation to a range of issues impacting my constituents in the seat of Grey, and, more broadly, Australians living in regional, rural and remote Australia, who have been left behind by an increasingly city-centric Albanese Labor government, a government that appears to think that those living in regional Australia don't deserve the same services, attention or compassion as their city-dwelling counterparts. This is a government that constantly talks about fairness, about equity, about leaving no Australian behind. But I say: look at regional South Australia, look at the electorate of Grey, look at rural and remote Australia, and tell me where the equity is; tell me where the compassion is.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Now, I understand as well as anyone that it's hard to get out to the regions. In the last few weeks alone, I've driven thousands and thousands of kilometres, traversing the vast distances and the communities in the electorate of Grey. It's not easy. It requires commitment. So you can appreciate my astonishment when, after months of trying to get senior ministers, or maybe even the Prime Minister, to come and see firsthand the damage done by the harmful algal bloom on the Yorke Peninsula and in the Gulf of St Vincent—a genuine crisis that's crippled our local aquaculture industry and destroyed livelihoods—the request was met with a resounding, patronising silence. It was all too hard. It's been the same for the drought—the worst in history for many of my farming communities.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But then, at the drop of a brand-new hard hat in a perfectly staged photo op, three federal Labor ministers are suddenly able to travel to the middle of South Australia, 570 kilometres north of Adelaide, for a nothing announcement about BHP's Olympic Dam mine. All the people of Grey and the local aquaculture industry wanted was somebody to talk to—somebody to listen to their stories. But it was all too hard. Yet, when BHP had something to say, and when the Premier of South Australia wanted to add some meat to his <span style="font-style:italic;">Advertiser</span> puff piece, no less than three Albanese Labor government ministers were able to don their fake hi-vis hats and make the trek. When the real people want to talk it's all too hard, but, for the corporate photo opportunities, this government will—and I quote the great Scottish band The Proclaimers—walk 500 miles.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But the neglect goes far deeper than a simple refusal to travel and hear directly from those in need. The neglect extends to not allowing older Australians living in rural and remote Australia access to essential care services when they're at their most vulnerable. The most profound crisis facing our communities today is the slow, agonising collapse of the aged-care industry in the bush. The Albanese Labor government champions its aged-care reforms, but those reforms feel hollow when all they deliver in my electorate is delay after delay after delay. It is heartbreaking.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'd like to now read some real stories from people in Grey who have been directly impacted. I'd like to thank these people and their families for sharing.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There's Susanne, 77, from Marree. Susanne's husband, Ron, passed away. He'd suffered from bowel cancer, diabetes and heart problems. He had been assessed for a home-care package, had waited over 12 months and did not receive it before his death. Susanne is currently having difficulties with the care she is receiving, due to living remotely. She says: 'I had to have our bathroom renovated to put in a shower, as the shower was over the bath and Ron could not step into the bath. That cost us $11,000, with no assistance.' And she says: 'I sometimes wish I had never got a home-care package because, instead of helping me, it has caused me more stress and inconvenience.'</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There's Jannene, 71, in Wallaroo. Jannene suffers from inducible laryngeal obstruction, which has no cure. She was forced to retire four years ago because of her condition, ending her 50-year nursing career. Jannene decided she needed help back in May 2024. She was approved for support but was told there were no packages. She says: 'This is a very debilitating and insidious condition, which has changed my life completely. I'm now at the point where I need a level 1 package, but I've been told that I won't get one because they are not giving them out. My daughter has taken over the role as carer, because I get overwhelmed with the system as I can't talk after a short period of time.'</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There's Judith, 73, in Edithburgh. Judith looks after her 99-year-old mother while they wait for her to be reassessed. Her mother is currently on a level 3 home-care package, after suffering a stroke a few years ago. Judith asked for her mother to be reassessed 18 months ago and is still waiting. Judith says: 'Her health has deteriorated to a point where she needs showering and helping with her ablutions. I am her daughter and do not have a problem with this, but it means I can no longer lead a normal life. I'm worried that she will die before she is reassessed.'</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In total, more than 230,000 older Australians have been left stuck in limbo, waiting for access to home-care support under Labor. Imagine being one of those people waiting but being over two hours drive from the nearest critical-care facility, physio, OT, GP or mental health service. Across the electorate of Grey, families are facing impossible choices and heartbreaking situations due to the government's failure to deliver promised care. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Last week I had the privilege of joining my federal colleague the shadow minister for aged care, Senator Anne Ruston, in a public forum in Peterborough. We sat with local carers, family members and the residents themselves, and the stories we heard, both raw and devastating, proved beyond any doubt that we are in the midst of an aged-care crisis. This is the price of Labor's centralisation and their one-size-fits-all policy approach. Where is the compassion for the spouse who can no longer visit their partner daily because the round trip is 400 kilometres? Where is the plan to ensure that a retired farmer in the far north or a beloved community volunteer on the west coast can age with dignity in the town they love? This government's failure to deliver adequate aged care in regional Australia is a betrayal of trust and shows a shocking lack of foresight. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">As well as ignoring the critical need for care, the government are actively crippling the ability of our people to earn. The cost of living is spiralling out of control, and nowhere is this felt more acutely or is it more dangerous than in regional Australia. We cannot absorb these sustained price hikes like the city can.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to talk specifically about power prices and the government's utter failure to manage energy policy. For our primary producers, for our regional industries and for the small businesses that underpin regional towns in rural and remote SA, these rising energy bills are an existential threat. For the city customer, a price hike means less money for dinner out. For a South Australian steelworker, a horticulturist, a manufacturer, a dairy producer or a meat producer, a power price hike is the difference between survival and bankruptcy. This isn't just about turning on a light switch; it's about running vital, non-negotiable equipment. This is about operating the cold storage and the refrigeration needed to keep dairy, meat and vegetables fresh for transport. This is about powering the local processing plants and the heavy-industry sites that are the only major employers in Whyalla and Port Pirie. </span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This government promised a transition to cheap, reliable energy. What they have delivered is one of the most volatile and unstable energy markets in the developed world. I would like to remind Australians that much of our prosperity and economic growth in the seventies, eighties and nineties, and the wealthy lifestyles that Middle and older Australians enjoy today is because we had cheap power, because our primary industries could compete and because we could afford to make and do things. </span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There's a healthy debate happening around the economic impacts of net zero. Well, I know one way we can get to net zero. We close all of our manufacturing industries and send them to China, and we make farming so unviable that we stop producing Australian made food and fibre. This seems to be the approach of the Albanese Labor government. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, how can our communities hope to grow or, at a bare minimum, sustain themselves when the basic infrastructure that connects us is crumbling? I mentioned driving thousands of kilometres. I've seen firsthand that the state of our roads throughout Grey, whether they be outback roads like the Strzelecki Track or the Augusta Highway—a major highway—is appalling. They are not just inconvenient; they are dangerous, creating unacceptable risks for our businesses transporting goods, for our truck drivers moving freight and for our families travelling between regional towns. When a regional hospital can't retain a surgeon and the only path to major medical care is a four-hour drive down a pothole ridden, narrow and neglected highway, this becomes a matter of life and death. This government is failing to invest in the basic asphalt and steel that ties our nation together, just as it's failing to invest in and support the ties that bond our elderly to their family homes. </span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In conclusion, the Albanese Labor government must stop looking at regional Australia through the lens of a staged photo opportunity or a promise to a metropolitan demographic during a campaign. We are not an afterthought, and we're not here to subsidise city convenience with our health, livelihoods or the dignity of our elderly. The people of Grey demand attention and equity, and they demand a government that will actually walk 500 miles not just for a multinational corporation but for the real people who need help right now.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Middle East</title>
          <page.no>2100</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Middle East</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2100</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Smith, David MP</name>
              <name.id>276714</name.id>
              <electorate>Bean</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="276714" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr DAVID SMITH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bean</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:00</span>):  Today marks the second anniversary of a violent and cowardly attack on civilians and the beginning of one of the great humanitarian calamities of our times. Two years ago, we watched on in horror as militants launched attacks deep into Israel, engaging in acts of unmitigated and unrestricted violence. People were murdered in their homes and young people enjoying a music festival had their lives cut short. We know that hundreds of civilians were killed that day—many of them children. Many more were injured, and all who were exposed to the violence will carry the trauma of that day for the rest of their lives. This violence against civilians was, by its nature, unprovoked. There is no justification for the deliberate killing of civilians.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I recognise the significance of this day for Jewish people everywhere and those in my electorate of Bean. Their pain and outrage are more than understandable. The Jewish community have a right to feel safe and secure wherever they are. And, in the face of the unacceptable rise of antisemitism, I commit myself to always standing up for this community. Today, we remember the 251 hostages taken by the militants, particularly those who were killed in captivity. We remember the horrors that the hostages endured and acknowledge the pain felt by their loved ones. The remaining hostages must be released.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Importantly, today also marks the beginning of the response of Israel to this act of terrorism—a response which itself has become one of the key issues of our times. We have watched on in horror at the systematic destruction of Gaza, the loss of life on a large scale, and the rapidly compounding humanitarian crisis stemming from a lack of basic aid. We've witnessed the documented destruction of civilian infrastructure of schools, hospitals, water supplies and sanitation. We've seen death and suffering on a scale not seen for many years. The violence that is being used has taken on all the appearances of also being unmitigated and unrestricted. The civilian death toll from Gaza is almost beyond imagining—at least 80,000 are dead—and 160,000 have been injured, many of them with lifelong injuries. The psychological harm inflicted on nearly the entire population will last for lifetimes. The harm to the children in this regard is particularly devastating.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is not just the killing and maiming which has caused the human catastrophe in Gaza; the forceful dislocation of a million people has created significant and almost unmanageable problems. People are living in poor shelters, with limited access to hygiene and drinking water; access to food and medicine is limited and malnourishment is widespread. Starvation is increasingly a part of life in Gaza. With the scale, scope and impact of this crisis, it's little wonder that many genocide scholars apply that term to what they are observing.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's difficult to see how this war on Gaza has done anything to prevent a future attack on Israel, bring justice to the victims of 7 October or bring peace and freedom to the hostages and their families. Instead, this conflict has become one of the defining issues of this first part of the 21st century. It has stretched beyond the borders of Gaza, with conflict spreading to Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iran. This widening instability has created a greater regional crisis, the geopolitical ramifications of which will resonate for some time. Compounding the horror is the sense that there is no easy pathway forward to a permanent and just peace for that tortured part of the world. A just peace would see Palestinians and Israelis living in peace and security in their own respective countries—a just peace which generations of people of goodwill on all sides have expended significant efforts and political capital towards achieving.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This just peace at times seems further away than ever before. For too long we have allowed the immediate complexities of agreements to stymie our efforts for a long-term peace. For too long we have listened to the loudest voices of obstruction and not heard the clarion call for peace. For too long we have allowed the intrusion of our own political biases to derail our commitment to a future of real peace. Forgoing an opportunity for lasting peace only guarantees the certainty of permanent war. Violence begets violence, and the cycle continues. Violence in response to violence will not bring peace, as we are witnessing now. We need to break the cycle and commit to a pathway to peace.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The lesson and message of today calls on all of us to use all of our powers and influence to achieve peace in Palestine and Israel. I believe the decision of our government to recognise the Palestinian state is a positive step towards achieving peace. This decision speaks to our commitment to play a positive and constructive role in the future of Palestine and Israel, towards the establishment of peace and prosperous relations between two states.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian people have a clear view that the violence in Gaza needs to stop, and they have made this view clear. I call for the swift release of the Australia activists taken from the recent aid flotilla and remind the Israeli authorities of their obligations towards those in their custody.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The deeper connection between the attack on 7 October and the ongoing attack in Gaza is in their victims. Civilians are the ones who are suffering. Civilians, particularly children, are the ones paying the price for decisions they never made. Ultimately, on a day like this, we all need to remember a central fact—there are not Israeli lives and Palestinian lives; there are only human lives, and these lives will continue to be lost while peace remains distant. But the people of Palestine and Israel deserve peace. They deserve lives of safety and dignity. Let us take renewed purpose from this needless suffering and work towards a future of peace, freedom and dignity.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">As the Prime Minister reminded us in his address to the United Nations General Assembly, let us remain true to those founding words in the UN charter from 80 years ago, which determined 'to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war', 'to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights', and 'to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom'. Let us work for these ends 'to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours'. Those words were right 80 years ago, and they remain right today.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>National Disability Insurance Scheme</title>
          <page.no>2102</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">National Disability Insurance Scheme</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2102</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Thompson, Phillip MP</name>
              <name.id>281826</name.id>
              <electorate>Herbert</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281826" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr THOMPSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Herbert</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:08</span>):  The National Disability Insurance Scheme has proved to be a lifeline for many of those who have a disability and family members who need that support. But it's unfortunate that many Australians with disabilities have been overlooked and under-served by this Albanese Labor government. From rushed NDIS funding cuts to reassessing plans without warning and kicking people off the scheme entirely, this Labor government has proven it is out of touch with the needs of disability participants. Rather than targeting fraud and waste, they have been taking aim at families who rely on support.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In my own electorate of Herbert in Townsville, I've been hearing heartbreaking stories of participants who have been abandoned by a system that was designed to support them. Providers have been forced to work unpaid, hospitals are turning away people who need help, and participants have been left out in the cold. One provider told me that when the NDIS cancelled their client's funding they were told to send their client to the Townsville University Hospital instead. The hospital refused admission, the ambulance was turned away, and the client was sent home. This provider continued the necessary home care, valued at $70,000, out of pocket, with the NDIS refusing to pay until I intervened to secure funding from this Labor government.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Another participant, Fred, who suffers from a hypoxic brain injury and who requires 24-hour care, with just two support workers, had his NDIS plan cancelled in July. His providers are still owed over $50,000 and are forced to work unpaid to keep him safe. The ongoing delays are placing Fred at serious risk, and intervention is urgently needed, but this government isn't listening. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Another participant, David, a 50-year-old with dementia, has had his NDIS funding cut, which has left him with inadequate care. Townsville police were called to locate David multiple times this year, including through the deployment of the helicopter unit, after he wandered due to insufficient support. The NDIS responded by saying they are not 'a crisis service', leaving David and others like him in the care of overwhelmed hospitals and unpaid providers. David's sister told me:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">This is unsustainable and dangerous, and the responsibility cannot continue to be shifted solely to the provider. NDIS has to act. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">How can this Labor government justify the anxiety and financial stress they have inflicted on disability participants and their families? This government is cutting support for our most vulnerable while refusing to listen to their pleas for help. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This comes on the back of Labor's disastrous funding cuts through their latest annual pricing review, which has hit the regions the hardest. These new funding cuts have blindsided providers and shocked families. The travel allowance for providers was halved, meaning many families who live in rural and remote areas will no longer be served. What about people who live on an island like Magnetic Island or Palm Island, where travel is required for these providers? Labor is happy to cater to the metropolitan electorates, but when it comes to regional Australia it's just not a priority. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Allied health professionals are also facing funding cuts, reducing their capacity to help children who rely on the support to move, grow and get stronger. The government gave just 10 working days notice to physios, dietitians, and occupational and speech therapists about funding cuts. Families are now fearing their children are about to lose the therapy support they desperately rely on. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">One mother with a daughter who has cerebral palsy told me:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">It's really terrifying what's happening because it comes down to my daughter's quality of life, and whether or not she will be able to live independently.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Her physio provider told me:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Because of these cuts, the NDIS physiotherapy workforce is facing collapse, and participants will have no choice but to inundate struggling emergency departments or remove themselves from care altogether. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In regional cities with few alternatives, one provider's service reductions will impact an entire community.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I wrote to Minister Butler twice, asking for an extension of three months to allow more time for providers to consult with the government and prepare for any changes. They refused to listen. Labor is too busy running the numbers and axing the funding to help those who are being hurt the most. These are policies created by inner-city technocrats who don't understand the challenges facing regional Australians. While Labor has been happy to pander to urban voters, families in the regions are left to deal with the fallout of this government's failed policies. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The same goes for Minister Butler's disgraceful treatment of families with children with autism. His botched rollout of the new support system, which isn't fully funded, that the states are supposed to cover half the cost of but haven't signed up to, is only creating more fear and anxiety. In Queensland, the minister found out from the media, in the paper, on the same day as the rest of Australia, that they were on the hook for half the funding. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Seventy-nine per cent of families surveyed by the CYDA said that they are worried about the Thriving Kids program. How can a parent with a child who has autism feel confident about the future when the minister can't even say where their support will be coming from? One mother with a daughter who has level 3 autism told me:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Regardless of the new program that was just announced, I'm worried about my daughter's future. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">As a father with a daughter who has level 3 autism, I'm terrified. This mother went on to say:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Everything has been cut, and it's almost like we're being penalised, because the more we fight, the more reductions are happening. It just shows that this government is refusing to hear the concerns of the families who need the support.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It absolutely pains me to my heart that these families feel like their children are an inconvenient dollar figure on this Labor government's major bottom line. I fear that my daughter, Emery, who has autism, will be left without the supports that she needs. If I feel it in parliament as a politician, that will be reverberated around everyone's electorate. People are terrified that their child is not going to get the support that they need. At the same time, fraud is rampant. We have multinational companies getting away with scamming the system. We saw one multi-million-dollar NDIS provider collapse after making fraudulent service claims and unlawful breaches of private customer data. We've also seen another NDIS director buying luxury sport cars, donating to football clubs, owing millions in taxes and fleeing the country when the ATO found out. This is who the government should be going after—not children who need the support and early intervention. It's these people, these crooks, who are robbing the taxpayer, ripping off the Australian people and crushing the dreams of the children who need the support from the NDIS. We should be targeting these people, because when a fraudulent operation collapses, most of them just phoenix the company and start another one. There need to be real teeth here, real punishment. Instead, this government is going after the families and the children who rely on these NDIS plans.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">None of this is good enough. It doesn't put our most vulnerable first. Any sort of change or reform must have the participant at the forefront of mind. Sustainability isn't about the budget; sustainability is about making sure the participants have the services not just now but into the future. When it comes to reform, the government's top priority should be to ensure that the participants receive the support they need. This Labor government is letting down our participants and their providers, especially in the regions, and it's time they were held accountable for the sake of our most vulnerable.</span>
              </p>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Climate Change</title>
          <page.no>2103</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Climate Change</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2103</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Smith, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>312393</name.id>
              <electorate>Leichhardt</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="312393" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr MATT SMITH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Leichhardt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:17</span>):  I have the privilege of representing Leichhardt. Over the past few weeks, I've been taking the opportunity of not being here in this place to travel around, get to community and speak so many of the diverse communities across the region—Wujal Wujal, Hope Vale, Cooktown, Mapoon and the Torres Strait. One thing that people came back to me on time and time again was climate change—what the climate is doing and how it is impacting their day-to-day lives.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Climate change, let's be real, is a massive threat to Australia but particularly the far north. The recently released National Climate Risk Assessment provides a very bleak future unless real action is taken. Australia is experiencing more frequent, severe and extreme weather events, as witnessed in Cyclone Jasper just a couple of years ago. This is not fearmongering; this is fact. Natural disasters are getting worse, the heatwaves are getting worse, and the cold snaps are unpredictable. All this leads to a place where Australians, their homes and their lifestyles are all at risk. We don't have to imagine these things; they have arrived on our doorstep.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to talk about some of the real-world aspects of this. I was recently in Saibai, speaking to the people of Masig Island, where inundation occurs in high tides, washing away at the cemeteries, closing the schools, cutting one island off from the other, cutting islands in half and cutting communities away from their health care because the seawalls are starting to fail and are no longer adequate. That is a real-world real problem right now. Some of the people on Saibai are putting together an evacuation plan. They feel that 30 years is as much time as they have left on their island—on their home—before that culture disappears under the waves.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We owe the people of the Torres Strait more than that. We owe them their culture, which they share with us, and we owe it to them to do all we can to prevent the loss of their homes. In Wujal Wujal, Aunty Lila told me that bush medicine is becoming harder and harder to come by as climate change is impacting when certain fruits and flowers are available to the community. Do not underestimate the power of bush medicine in culture and community. Western medicine has its place, but what has been done for 40,000 years still resonates within community. It matters. It matters that you can go to the local aunties and uncles and they can give you the bush medicines that your grandparents had and that their grandparents had and on and on. Slowly that is being whittled away, one season at a time. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Wujal Wujal is, of course, also recovering from Cyclone Jasper. The rain event after it flooded the entire town. An entire town had to be evacuated to Cooktown, Cairns and Mossman. Cooktown and Mossman are not big places. This put additional stress on services, making it harder for everybody. Cooktown nearly ran out of water. Mossman and Port Douglas were within hours of running out of fresh drinking water as well. These are real-world examples. In Cairns itself, a thriving city—the 15th-largest city in Australia, I believe—people recovering from the flooding disaster still aren't in their homes.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">You can put it in numbers. More than $229 million has already been spent on recovery measures, $130 million on betterment packages to rebuild infrastructure. There's $61.2 million for water and sewerage infrastructure and $13.9 million specifically for Wujal Wujal. Our roads to Kuranda are still cut off. Our road to Port Douglas is still a single lane.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But not everyone lives in Leichhardt. So how would this affect you on a day-to-day basis? It's going to be the little things that change. It's going to be the little things that make a difference. The stinger seasons in the far north are getting longer. That means there's more and more time with stinger nets in the water. But they're also travelling south to communities that are unprepared for box jellyfish and irukandji. If they get as far south as beyond Seventeen Seventy, where you hit the surf beaches, that's going to be a very real problem. You can't net surf beaches. You won't be able to protect people from the irukandji or the boxies, and you will have to close those beaches for six months of the year.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">You can now catch coral trout in Sydney Harbour. This is not a good thing. Coral trout belong where there is coral. As they drift further south, so too will other things. The more intense heat for crocodiles creates too many dudes. Not enough female crocodiles will place pressure on the apex predator. Remove an apex predator and your ecosystem collapses. It is the opposite problem for turtles; with the heat, there are too many females, which will destroy a critically endangered species. People travel from all over the world to dive on the Great Barrier Reef and to see our beautiful turtles up close.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We need to take action to ensure the survival of these species. That's why I'm proud to be a part of a government that is acting on climate change and pushing towards net zero. Australians voted for climate change. They voted for action, and 62 to 70 per cent is an achievable but ambitious goal to arrest what is already happening. We know that there's work to be done, both in the renewables sector and in changing our systems, but it's something that we're all going to tackle together, as a country and as a nation.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We're building resilience into the Great Barrier Reef with coral IVF and with the replanting of coral. We can now bring those reefs back faster after mass bleaching events. This is great not only for the world, as we do have custody of the world's largest living ecosystem; it's also important for our children. It shows science. We build resilience because we know that climate change is happening now.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We've already provided enough renewable energy to power more than 10 million homes. We've got massive investment in emissions reduction projects. Renewables are springing up all over the place. We know that coal-fired power stations are reaching the end of their lives. We have a plan to replace them, and the Australian people have got behind it. Over 76,000 homes now have batteries. That's more homes than there are in Cairns completely. You've taken Cairns off the grid. Australians have done that together. They've identified the threat, and they're acting on it. It's something that I'm very proud to be part of, and it's something that I know Australians are taking seriously.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The other side, of course, is denying climate change and the rejection of net zero. The Great Barrier Reef provides 64,000 jobs. It creates opportunities for the regions, with space, wind, sun and water. We have all of these things in abundance. It turns out that sheep are like solar panels. The grass grows better under them as the water condensation runs off, creating better feed and creating shade for them. It does not have to be an us and them proposition. Agriculture and renewables can go hand in hand to create a really bright future for the regions as well as protecting our planet. We have a real opportunity to lead not just in our region in Australia and the South Pacific but in the world as a renewable superpower, arresting climate change and putting ourselves at the front of the pack.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">My children speak to me most about the environment when they speak to me about the work I do in this place. I think many children are like that. They want a future that mirrors what we have had, and what my parents had. Delivering on climate change and with the delivery of net zero, the Anthony Albanese Labor government does just that.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299150" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Lawrence</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  There being no further grievances, the debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next sitting.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="text-align:center;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sitting suspended </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">from </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">13:26 to 16:00</span>
                </span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2104</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Lawrence, Tania MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>299150</name.id>
                <electorate>Hasluck</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>CONSTITUENCY STATEMENTS</title>
        <page.no>2105</page.no>
        <type>CONSTITUENCY STATEMENTS</type>
      </debateinfo>
      <debate.text>
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          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">CONSTITUENCY STATEMENTS</span>
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        </body>
      </debate.text>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Katter's Australian Party</title>
          <page.no>2105</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Katter's Australian Party</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2105</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Katter, Bob MP</name>
              <name.id>HX4</name.id>
              <electorate>Kennedy</electorate>
              <party>KAP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HX4" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr KATTER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kennedy</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:00</span>):  In our little political party, we say we're about 'BORCHOFF'—it's like 'Gorbachev' without the 'Gor'. The B stands for build: we believe Australians should build—build Australia. The O is for our wonderful, beautiful nature wonderland; enjoy it, experience it, enhance it and, yes, protect it. 'Our nature wonderland'—that's the O. The R is for reward for those who work—not the slithering suits in Sydney that play market games with each other, but people who actually produce something of value for the rest of Australia. The O—I backtrack—is for 'Own Australia'. We believe Australians should own Australia. All our airports are foreign owned; almost all of our seaports are foreign owned. What the hell do we still own in this country? All of our underwear manufacturing has gone overseas; all of our motor vehicle manufacturing has gone overseas; all of our petrol has gone overseas. What the hell do we produce in this country? That's what you've reduced us to.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We are just a little gum tree movement; that's all we are. We're just a gum tree movement.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The 'CH' is for Christianity, and we make no apologies for this. If you look at Western civilisation, which is basically civilisation—and I refer to a number of historians, which I haven't got time to refer to in this place—it is the basis of their belief system in America. It is the basis of all the things about them. And that is the reason why a relatively small country, compared with China and other countries, can be so enormously powerful in what they have achieved; it's extraordinary.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">'O'—I've got it back to front—is our natural wonderland. Enhance it. Use it. Enjoy it. Improve it. Protect it.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">And to the 'FF' in 'BORCHOFF': we're the freedom and fun party. We don't want any regulations! Take your regulations and do with them what I can't say in parliament. We didn't need those regulations. We got here, as Australians, without those regulations. And you've put the price of a house up about $200,000 with your regulations and taken it out of the reach of fellow Australians. We can't subdivide land, so we say, 'Advance Australia Fair; to every Australian a "quintare"'—that's a fifth of a hectare!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="11788" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Aldred</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Thank you, Member. I call the member for Shortland.</span>
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          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2105</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Aldred, Mary MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>11788</name.id>
                <electorate>Monash</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>2105</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Housing</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2105</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Conroy, Pat MP</name>
              <name.id>249127</name.id>
              <electorate>Shortland</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249127" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CONROY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Shortland</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Pacific Island Affairs and Minister for Defence Industry</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:03</span>):  Right across our community, and in my community in particular—down to Lake Macquarie and into the Central Coast—access to housing remains one of my top concerns. Young people are competing for fewer rentals. Families, who, just a generation ago, would have bought their first home, are locked out.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This crisis didn't happen by chance; it was the product of neglect. For nine years, under the coalition, there was no dedicated housing minister for most of that time. Just 373 social and affordable homes were built nationwide. They walked away. And, for the last three years, while we've been trying to change that, we've seen the Greens join with the coalition to block reforms. This new coalition strategy was simple: delay, obstruct, then complain. That's politics at its worst.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Thankfully, Labor has got a different approach. The Albanese Labor government is delivering the biggest housing investment since the postwar boom. Since coming to office, more than half a million homes have been built; 180,000 Australians have bought their first home with as little as a five per cent deposit; over one million households are receiving higher rent assistance, which has seen the biggest boost in 30 years; and 25,000 social and affordable homes are already in the pipeline.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In my electorate of Shortland, the results are real. So far, 956 locals have bought their first home through the Home Guarantee Scheme; more than 10,600 households are getting extra rent assistance, and nearly 600 apprentices are learning trades to help build the homes we need. But we know the job's not done. That's why we're going further. Across the country, there will be 55,000 new social and affordable homes, 100,000 homes reserved for first home buyers and a national target of 1.2 million new homes in five years. For renters, we're delivering the biggest rent assistance increase in three decades and we're working with the states to strengthen tenants' rights. For first home buyers, the new Help to Buy shared-equity scheme that came in last week will make homeownership possible again for a key cohort.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I recently met Jesse in my electorate, who told me that, thanks to Labor's five per cent deposit scheme, he can finally buy a home. For Jesse and thousands like him, the dream of homeownership is back within reach. Housing isn't just about economics; it's about dignity, security and giving everyday Aussies a fair go. Let me be clear: while others play politics, Labor is building homes, Labor is backing everyday Australians, and Labor is delivering for Australia's future.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Petition: Health Infrastructure Funding</title>
          <page.no>2106</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Petition: Health Infrastructure Funding</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2106</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Haines, Helen MP</name>
              <name.id>282335</name.id>
              <electorate>Indi</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="282335" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr HAINES</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Indi</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:06</span>):  I seek leave of the House to table a petition.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="11788" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Aldred</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Has the petition been approved by the Petitions Committee?</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="282335" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Dr HAINES:</span>
                  </a>  No, it has not.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  Is leave granted for the document to be presented?</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Leave granted.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="282335" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Dr HAINES:</span>
                  </a>  I rise today to present a petition from the Corowa Wahgunyah Rutherglen Health Action Group calling for the state and federal governments to fully fund a single site Albury-Wodonga hospital that meets the needs of the region now and into the future.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This petition has been signed by 1,383 concerned residents of the Rutherglen, Wahgunyah and Corowa region who are demanding a better deal for their health. This region relies on Albury Wodonga Health and the smaller Corowa Hospital for lifesaving care.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albury Wodonga Health Clinical Services Plan in 2021 identified the region's growing population and health needs and recommended the establishment of a single-site hospital. The current proposal for upgrades to the Albury hospital is not fit for purpose and does not meet the border's needs now, let alone into the future.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In May this year, the New South Wales <span style="font-style:italic;">S</span><span style="font-style:italic;">pecial commission of inquiry into healthcare funding</span> report was released, issuing a scathing review of the proposed redevelopment of the Albury Base Hospital. Last year, the Prime Minister visited the border, and I handed him a letter signed by more than 200 local doctors calling for the current redevelopment of Albury Wodonga Health to be reconsidered in the form of a greenfield single-site hospital.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In March this year, I organised a meeting in parliament with the mayors from both Wodonga and Albury with the Minister for Health and Ageing. Together, we presented the unique case of Albury Wodonga Health being the only cross-border health service in Australia and explained why the Commonwealth investment is needed and why the states need to step up. Just last week, the state and territory premiers called for more investment from the federal government, specifically for health infrastructure funding. During the recent election, I campaigned for a $2 billion building rural hospitals fund, a fund that would provide transparent, competitive and needs based funding opportunities for regional and rural health services to apply for such an investment in infrastructure improvement.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Without appropriate investment in hospital infrastructure, the border region risks facing a worsening health crisis. Thank you to the Corowa Wahgunyah Rutherglen Health Action Group and the 1,383 border residents who have signed this petition. I am standing up for local health professionals. I am standing up for the border community, and I am making your request here in the parliament for the New South Wales, Victorian and federal governments to come together and deliver a greenfield single-site hospital on the border, because the lives of the communities on the border depend on it.</span>
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                <page.no>2106</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Aldred, Mary MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>11788</name.id>
                <electorate>Monash</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                <page.no>2106</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Haines, Helen MP</name>
                <name.id>282335</name.id>
                <electorate>Indi</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                <page.no>2106</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">DEPUTY SPEAKER, The</name>
                <name.id>10000</name.id>
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                <page.no>2106</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Haines, Helen MP</name>
                <name.id>282335</name.id>
                <electorate>Indi</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                <first.speech />
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          <title>Clarke, Ms Rhiannon, Joondalup Men's and Women's Sheds</title>
          <page.no>2106</page.no>
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              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Clarke, Ms Rhiannon</span>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Joondalup Men's and Women's Sheds</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>2106</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">French, Tom MP</name>
              <name.id>316550</name.id>
              <electorate>Moore</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316550" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FRENCH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moore</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:09</span>):  Today I want to highlight two shining examples of community spirit and achievement for my electorate. First, Rhiannon Clarke, an extraordinary young athlete, university student and disability advocate from our local community, who continues to make Moore and Australia incredibly proud. At just 22, Rhiannon has already achieved what many athletes can only dream of. She's represented Australia on the world stage, winning three world championship medals and two Commonwealth Games medals. This includes winning silver at the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games in 2018 and again at the World Para Athletics Championships in Paris in 2023. She also competed in the 2020 Tokyo Paralympic Games. Most recently, Rhiannon travelled to New Delhi in India to compete in the World Para Athletics Championships, as one of just two Western Australians in a 49-member Australian contingent. Closer to home she was recognised with the MercyCare Positive Achievement Award at the 2025 WA Youth Awards—a testament to not just her athletics success but her commitment to mentoring young para-athletes and advocating for inclusion and equity in sport. Beyond the track Rhiannon uses her platform to raise awareness about unseen disabilities, challenge stereotypes and change the narrative around what it means to live and thrive with disability. She's passionate about empowering the next generation to embrace who they are and to chase their dreams, no matter the barriers. Rhiannon said:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I really want to show all those young kids out there to be proud of your disability and be proud of yourself.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Rhiannon, you're a champion and you make us all proud. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I also want to give a special shout-out to Rick, Bill and the entire team at the Joondalup Men's Shed. I recently had the pleasure of visiting the shed again, and it was great to see firsthand the sense of purpose and camaraderie that that place provides. From restoring a 1960s Dodge truck to crafting wooden toys, the Joondalup shed is proof of how community groups can bring people together—not just to build projects but to build connections, wellbeing and belonging. I'm particularly proud that the Joondalup shed is an excellent and proud sponsor of the Joondalup Women's Shed at Winton Road, creating an inclusive, supportive environment where everyone can contribute, learn and lend a hand. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">To Rhiannon and the Joondalup men's and women's sheds: thank you for showing us what community spirit looks like. Moore is stronger because of you. </span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cook Electorate: Year 12 Awards, Sylvania Public School</title>
          <page.no>2107</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Cook Electorate: Year 12 Awards</span>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
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            <talker>
              <page.no>2107</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Kennedy, Simon MP</name>
              <name.id>267506</name.id>
              <electorate>Cook</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="267506" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr KENNEDY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Cook</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:12</span>):  I'd like to acknowledge and congratulate all of the year 12 kids from the electorate of Cook on completing year 12 and wish them luck for the upcoming HSC exams. Specifically, I'd like to give a shout-out to a few exceptional students I was able to meet and give awards to. Firstly, at St Aloysius' College I was able to present the All Rounder Award to Harry Payne and Hannah Madigan, recognising their excellence across a range of academic, leadership and extracurricular disciplines. At Endeavour Sports High School, Natalia Pepic received the Creative and Performing Arts Award, while Danielle Thompson was recognised with the All Rounder Award. At Sylvania High School, Luka Pili was named Year 12 Leader of the Year. Congratulations, Luka!. At Woolooware High School, the Outstanding School and Community Commitment Award was given to Juliet Golding and Daniel Westwood. Then at Gymea Technology High School, Rhys Evans and Evan Moukatas received the All Round Achievement Award. Congratulations to you! At Our Lady of Mercy Catholic College, Burraneer, the Love of Literature Award was presented to Amelia Buhagiar. Then at De La Salle Catholic College, Taine Wihare received the Aspiring Citizen Award. At Caringbah High School, Hillary Chan and Audrey Wei were presented with the All Rounder Award. Congratulations to both of you! I wish all of the year 12 classes of 2025 in the Cook electorate all the best for the upcoming HSC. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I would also like to celebrate the centenary of Sylvania Public School. For over 100 years, Sylvania Public School has been a cornerstone of life in Sylvania. It's shaped generations of students and built bonds, not only among those students but among the parents, the P&amp;C, the teachers and the community at large. I want to pay special tribute to the principal, Ms Jennifer Birch, the staff, both present and past, and the P&amp;C, whose dedication has shaped this school's legacy. Thank you for the hard work and the contributions you make to the community each and every day in this special school in our electorate. To all of Sylvania school—today's students, yesterday's graduates and tomorrow's graduates—thank you for all you do. Thank you for what you do for our community. I hope the next 100 years will be just as fruitful and just as great as the last 100.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Lalor Electorate: Sport</title>
          <page.no>2107</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Lalor Electorate: Sport</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>2107</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ryan, Joanne MP</name>
              <name.id>249224</name.id>
              <electorate>Lalor</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249224" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms RYAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lalor</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Chief Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:14</span>):  Last Thursday, 2 October, I had the pleasure of hosting the annual sports presidents night for Lalor. This is a night in Werribee that brings together in one room people from across sports to celebrate our local sports, our local achievements and our local young people. The event brought together club presidents, volunteers, young athletes and families from right across the electorate. It was a celebration of local sport, community pride and the people who keep clubs running week in and week out. It gave me an opportunity to thank the many volunteers, coaches, committee members and parents whose efforts ensure our clubs continue to thrive. From early morning set-ups to fundraising and mentoring young players, their contribution goes far beyond game day, and nights like this remind us that sport is about connection, inclusion and community spirit. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We were privileged to hear from our own local Olympian, Amy Cashin, a proud young woman raised in Werribee. Amy has represented Australia in the 3,000-metre steeplechase at both the Tokyo 2020 Olympics and the Paris 2024 Olympics and, most recently, at the World Athletics Championships in Tokyo. It was wonderful to welcome Amy home and for her to have the opportunity to share her knowledge and her insight with local coaches and some local sporting champions. Alongside her athletic career, Amy has recently completed her PhD on coaches' mental health, showing the same discipline off the track as she does on it. Her message of resilience and balance deeply resonated with everyone present. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal"> We also celebrated some local sporting champions. Jett Lewer, who plays lacrosse, represented Victoria in the under-18s and played for the Australia under-16s at the APLU sixes in South Korea. Addison Bishop-Worn, who plays baseball with the Werribee Giants and was selected for Australia's under-18 world cup squad, was key to Victoria's 2023 youth championship win. Ben Howard, who plays baseball, was senior state champion with Aces Sporting Club and was selected for the under-18 US baseball tour. Alexis Campbell, who plays basketball and represents Vic Metro, competed at the national under-14 club championships but also finished in the top five in the Western Football Netball League under-16 best and fairest.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We also had a lot to celebrate locally with club achievements. We recognised some remarkable premierships, from the Wyndham City Rhinos and the Glen Orden netball club to the Werribee Softball Association, which hosted Victoria's largest association-run tournament, with over 500 players. The Werribee Districts were premiers. The Werribee Hockey Club were premiers in two divisions this year. The Wyndhamvale Football Club brought home the premiership as well. Although the colleagues here from Queensland may claim to be the national champs, in Lalor we have lots of champs.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Young, Mr Raymond, OAM</title>
          <page.no>2108</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Young, Mr Raymond, OAM</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2108</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Landry, Michelle MP</name>
              <name.id>249764</name.id>
              <electorate>Capricornia</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                  <a href="249764" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LANDRY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Capricornia</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Chief Nationals Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:18</span>):  I rise today to honour the life of an extraordinary Central Queenslander, Raymond Young OAM, who passed away on 22 August this year. Born on 18 September 1932, Ray's life was marked from an early age by passion, generosity and a deep commitment to serving others. His love for sport, and for gymnastics in particular, began when he was only five, watching travelling Chinese acrobats rehearse in Rockhampton. Encouraged by teachers and mentors, that early spark grew into a lifelong mission not simply to excel in the sport himself but to share its joy and discipline with generations of young people across Central Queensland. Through these efforts he offered thousands of children a positive alternative to the streets, a challenge to strive towards and a welcoming place to belong. Over his lifetime more than 65,000 gymnasts across the state passed through his coaching, with thousands going on to become leaders, coaches and judges themselves.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Beyond sport, his dedication to the community was boundless. After becoming a justice of the peace in 1984, he dedicated more than four decades to serving his community and strengthening the JP network across Queensland. His tireless commitment earned him life membership—a reflection of his integrity, leadership and passion for public service. Through his efforts to expand JP education and support services, countless volunteers across the region have been empowered to better serve their communities. His work has ensured that vital JP services remain accessible, trusted and reliable for people right across Central Queensland and beyond.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">For almost 40 years he was a proud Rotarian, twice serving as club president and mentoring countless young people through the Rotary exchange program. He received Rotary's highest accolades, including the Paul Harris Fellowship and the Four Avenue of Service Award. He gave generously of his time to the Glenmore State High School Parents and Friends Association, and the Rockhampton Chinese Citizens Association, and in 1982 proudly welcomed the Singapore Army to Rockhampton, receiving the 'golden lion' award in recognition of his efforts.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Ray's extraordinary service was recognised with numerous honours, including a Gymnastics Queensland life membership in 1996, the Rockhampton Citizen of the Year in 1999, the Australian Sports Medal in 2000, and the Medal of the Order of Australia in 2001.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Above all of his incredible community work, Ray was a devoted family man. He was a dearly loved husband to Laures, father to Diane, Julie, Trudy and David, and a cherished grandfather and great-grandfather. Central Queensland has lost a giant of community spirit. His legacy will endure not only in the clubs he founded, the organisations he strengthened and the awards he received but also in the countless lives he touched through his kindness, encouragement and unwavering commitment to service. Ray Young's life reminds us that true greatness is measured not by what we achieve for ourselves but what we give to others.</span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Griffith Electorate: Pride Month</title>
          <page.no>2108</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Griffith Electorate: Pride Month</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2108</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Coffey, Renee MP</name>
              <name.id>312323</name.id>
              <electorate>Griffith</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="312323" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms COFFEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Griffith</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:21</span>):  September was Pride Month in Brisbane, and it was wonderful that so many Pride events were held in the Griffith electorate, from the Come to Daddy Pride Launch to Pride Fair in Musgrave Park. I was honoured to attend the Pride rally in Queens Park and to join the Pride March with Rainbow Labor. I thank Brisbane Pride, the volunteers and the many community organisations who made the event such a success. I send a special congratulations to James McCarthy, the President of Brisbane Pride, for facilitating another cracking Pride. What struck me once again was the incredible spirit of the crowd. Pride is not just about celebration; it's also about resolve and honouring those who came before, marching when it was dangerous and unpopular, especially during the AIDS epidemic of the 1980s, giving strength to those continuing the fight for equality today.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I also attended Brisbane Pride's intergenerational panel of LGBTQIA2+ community members at Queensland Museum Kurilpa in South Brisbane. It was a powerful conversation about the history of pride in Queensland. The evening included the formal handover of a section of the Gilbert Baker 25th anniversary Pride flag, donated by Brisbane Pride to the Queensland Museum's collection. The <span style="font-style:italic;">Make </span><span style="font-style:italic;">a</span><span style="font-style:italic;"> Scene: Fashioning Queer Identity and Club C</span><span style="font-style:italic;">ulture in the 1990s</span> exhibition at the museum was another highlight—an aspiring showcase of creativity and resilience, capturing the power of self-expression and community that helped people through difficult times.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I was also pleased to attend the <span style="font-style:italic;">Queer Here</span> exhibition at Griffith University on Southbank, an event celebrating the diversity, creativity and leadership of queer students and staff. It was a great honour to see the powerful work of one of our local secondary school students, Gabe McLoughlin, from Cannon Hill Anglican College. It was a vivid reminder that universities are not only places of learning but also of belonging, where visibility, acceptance and pride walk hand-in-hand.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Last month I was also honoured to host in my electorate an LGBTQIA2+ health and wellbeing roundtable with the Minister for Health and Aged Care, the Hon. Mark Butler MP, alongside representatives from leading community health organisations. It was an important opportunity to hear directly from those working on the ground about the barriers LGBTQIA2+ Australians face in accessing inclusive health care, and to hear how the work of government is already having a positive impact in the community. As part of this ongoing engagement, I've also met separately with many dedicated organisations doing vital work every day, and I acknowledge the work of the Queensland Council for LGBTI Health, Queensland Positive People, and the Queensland LGBTQIA+ Alliance. Each of these organisations plays a critical role in supporting the health, wellbeing and inclusion of people in Griffith and across Queensland, because equality isn't just an aspiration; it's something we must actively build. That means standing firmly with trans and gender-diverse Queenslanders against harassment and misinformation. It means workplaces free of discrimination, and communities where hate has no home. It means ensuring access to inclusive health care, better mental health services, and schools where every child is respected and supported. In this parliament, I'm proud to echo the voices of all those who continue to fight for equality in our community.</span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Berowra Electorate: Cherrybrook Public School</title>
          <page.no>2109</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Berowra Electorate: Cherrybrook Public School</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2109</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Leeser, Julian MP</name>
              <name.id>109556</name.id>
              <electorate>Berowra</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="109556" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LEESER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Berowra</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:24</span>):  Berowra's best and brightest were on display when I attended the Cherrybrook Public School Passion Projects evening, showcasing the hard work, research skills and dedication of the school's year 5 and year 6 students. I left the event inspired and full of optimism for the future of our community and our nation.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Passion Projects were started last year under the guidance of one of Cherrybrook Public School's outstanding teachers, Jasmin Kooper. Last year, it was offered as only an extension project to select students, but it was so successful that, this year, all of years 5 and 6 could take part. Students spent one hour a week working on their project on a topic of their choice and put in extra hours of effort at home, culminating in the showcase on 23 September. The theme for this year's Passion Projects was 'fixing it'. Students were asked to link their passion to solving a real-world problem using their creativity to tackle practical challenges. I want to highlight just a few of the excellent projects that students shared with me.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">One student, Miller, created a project based on the important message of 'reduce, reuse and recycle'. He designed a football boot library to ensure we're making the most out of our sporting gear and shared amazing research he'd done about mushroom leather as an alternative material to synthetics. Sahir in 5E took up the challenge of researching and designing sustainable tyres to be used in Formula One. Danika in 6K focused on the monumental task of cleaning up space junk and used LEGO, drawing and 3D modelling to make her ideas come to life. Genevieve from 6E designed a sustainable dance studio, accompanied by dance costumes made from repurposed fabrics. Sebastian combined his experiences living in our local area with dedicated research to develop a new plan for improving the longevity and sustainability of the turf at Campbell Park.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's so important that children discover their passions and the way they can make a difference both to our local community and to our country. Opportunities like these create a love of learning and help the student drive more deeply into their interests and provide solutions to real-world problems. For year 6 students, Passion Projects is a great chance to develop discipline, self-regulation and study skills that will benefit them through their high school experience, and I look forward to attending next year's Passion Projects. I want to particularly acknowledge the wonderful work of Jasmin Cooper for the success of the program and the effort that she and the other wonderful Cherrybrook school teachers provide, including Principal Harry Vassila, Relieving Principal Glen Lakeman, Stage 3 Assistant Principal Paula Davis and teachers Joanne Sikorski, Amy Kelman, Deb Morgan, Ashley Eaton, Suzanne Sambell, Sonya Fishpool, Chaseley Roberts, Jade Bell, Rachel Owens and Jessica Carter. It was a pleasure to speak to so many wonderful students who worked so hard across term 3 and to see how proud their teachers and their families truly were of them. Congratulations again to the wonderful Cherrybrook Public School on a great evening and a very enriching program from all the year 5s and year 6s.</span>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>McEwen Electorate: Medicare, Wright, Kirra</title>
          <page.no>2109</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">McEwen Electorate: Medicare</span>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Wright, Kirra</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2109</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Mitchell, Rob MP</name>
              <name.id>M3E</name.id>
              <electorate>McEwen</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="M3E" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr ROB MITCHELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McEwen</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:27</span>):  Back at home, over the last few weeks, I've had the great pleasure of seeing firsthand the work that Labor is doing to strengthen our healthcare system. I had the pleasure of joining my good friend the member for Macedon and Minister for Health, Mary-Anne Thomas MP, at the Neal Street Medical Clinic in Gisborne. The clinic is now a fully bulk-billing practice. This means that locals can come and see their GP and be assured that they will get quality care without out-of-pocket costs. The Neal Street clinic is well known in our community, and this has reinforced the good work that it is already doing. I know that the committed team of doctors, nurses, allied health and reception staff will continue to provide compassionate and professional support.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Because of the Albanese Labor government's historic $8.5 billion investment in Medicare, all patients who walk through the doors in Gisborne can be assured of the sort of access and treatment we all should have. All they will need for an appointment is their Medicare card, not a credit card. This is on top of the new practices we've seen open in places like Mernda that are fully bulk billing and others in the area that are extending their bulk-billing because of the investment we put in. It's important that we keep remembering that our health system is one of the best in the world. It's envied by many, many people wherever you go. We've got to make sure we keep delivering on it through our 50 Medicare urgent care clinics, including one in McEwen. At home in Diamond Creek, we will have one that will be open with extended hours for seven days a week and no appointment needed.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Lastly, I want to recognise Kirra Wright of Wallan for her fantastic performance in the World Para Athletics Championships. She put Australia on the board, recording our first medal of the championships, thanks to a silver in the women's shot put F36 competition. Backing that up, she finished strongly in the 100 metres T36 final, coming in fifth. A former Wandong Primary School student, Kirra is a role model for our community, and we are very proud of her success. She is also one of the winners of the Local Sporting Champions grant in McEwen, receiving $1,000 earlier this year to help with this year's Australian track and field championships in Western Australia. Keep a good eye on her, because I reckon there's a fair chance we're going to see her compete in the 2028 Los Angeles Paralympics. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The sporting champs grants are a great idea that this government works through to support young people with great talent right across different sporting codes. It's important that we keep these sorts of programs going, because the grassroots stuff that we do now will deliver the champions of the future. I know that, for people like Kirra, this money goes a long way to helping her and her family get to these events but also to helping her reach her dreams. I think it's great that we can see people from small country towns get out there, compete on the world stage and be the best. Again, great job, Kirra. Good luck with the future and keep up the great work.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Riverina Electorate: Rural Fire Service</title>
          <page.no>2110</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Riverina Electorate: Rural Fire Service</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2110</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McCormack, Michael MP</name>
              <name.id>219646</name.id>
              <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="219646" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr McCORMACK</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Riverina</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:30</span>):  Volunteers are the backbone of our communities. Whether they're regional or in capital cities, they keep Australia ticking. I want to pay special acknowledgement and recognition to some wonderful community members from the little village of Woodstock and from Kangaroo Flat who have given so much to the Rural Fire Service over so many years. I mention 10-year veterans Glenn Daley, James Garling, Emma-Louise Wood, Simon Wood, Brett Dawes and Lachlan Graham; with 20 years service, Robert Moodie, Roslyn Morris, Max Morris and Philip Dresser; with 30 years, John Cooley and Barrie Mumberson; with 40 years, Christopher Rowston; and—wait for this—with 50 years in the RFS, Colin Drury and David Ware. They were acknowledged last week with medals—medals that they didn't want to receive; they don't do it for acknowledgement. They do it to protect lives and to save communities. I tell you what, come summer, you want one of those RFS people if your property or your house catches fire. You want one of them to come with their truck, their hoses, their service and their dedication and commitment.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Last week, on Wednesday, the new Woodstock fire brigade station opened, and we thank the New South Wales government and the former coalition government for providing the funding for that. But we also give thanks for the handover of a tanker to the Kangaroo Flat brigade. It's these RFS volunteers who are the backbone of our communities. But a word of warning—we are coming into a fire season which looks to be pretty bad, with the fuel load built up. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Also, recently, Yass Valley Council got a report saying that veteran members of the RFS and experienced aviators are refusing to fly near giant net-zero projects for fear of crashing into wind turbines, leaving volunteer fire crews worried that they'll be sitting ducks during major blazes. This is of great concern. It really, truly is. Aerial firefighting support pilots are refusing to fly near these giant projects, for fear of crashing into them. A report handed to Yass Valley Council and peer reviewed by veteran members of the RFS and experienced aviators has also flagged very serious fire management concerns once hundreds of wind turbines and transmission lines are installed in the local area. The project between Binalong and Bowning will have 90 towers nearly as high as One Barangaroo—260 metres high. That's what they're going to be littering this area with. This is because of the rushed renewables rollout. This is really concerning the RFS. Let's not forget they are volunteers. If they're concerned, then we should be concerned. If they're putting out the warning, we should be warned.</span>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Medicare</title>
          <page.no>2110</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Medicare</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2110</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Collins, Julie Maree MP</name>
              <name.id>HWM</name.id>
              <electorate>Franklin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWM" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms COLLINS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Franklin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:33</span>):  During the election, health care—and indeed Medicare—was a really big issue in my electorate of Franklin, and it continues to be. That's why I'm so pleased that on 1 November this year the Albanese Labor government will be delivering the single biggest investment in Medicare since Labor created Medicare, a history of more than 40 years—$8.5 billion to strengthen bulk-billing.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I've already heard how difficult it is to access bulk-billing in Tasmania and in my own electorate of Franklin, and it has been getting tougher and tougher. It's always been difficult. What this means—and I'm hearing from some practices already that they will implement this—is that more Tasmanians will get to see a bulk-billing GP. We want more Australians to access bulk-billing. We want more people to be able to walk into their GP clinic and get bulk-billed, thanks to the government tripling the incentive payments. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We also know that, from 1 January, Tasmanians will be paying less for their medicines, thanks to our cheaper medicines policy. We are cutting the cost of PBS general prescriptions again, down to just $25 from their current cost of $32, and we have capped the maximum cost of scripts for concession card holders at $7.70 because what we want is no-one having to make difficult decisions about which prescription to fill. Unfortunately, I know from talking to the pharmacists in my electorate that that has been the case over the last decade or so. Our cheaper medicines policy is already working. We know that in Tasmania it has saved Tasmanians over $40 million to date and more than $7.6 million in my electorate of Franklin.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Also, on 1 January next year 1800MEDICARE, free, nationwide, 24/7 health advice, will come into effect. That will be connected to after-hours GP telehealth for people across the country because we know that these accidents don't always happen between nine and five. It's also why, from 1 July next year, we'll have a Medicare urgent care clinic in Kingborough in my electorate. This means that people living in Kingborough and the Huon Valley will soon have access to bulk-billed urgent care seven days a week without having to drive to Hobart to go to the Royal Hobart Hospital.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We've recently seen some data in Tasmania, particularly around the Launceston urgent care clinic, that says that around 50 per cent of those people would have gone to the emergency department if they couldn't access the Medicare urgent care clinics, so we know that they're working. Already more than 100,000 visits to Medicare urgent care clinics have happened for over 100,000 Tasmanians. Everybody in my home state of Tasmania at the moment knows somebody who's had to use the urgent care clinics, and every single one of them has said what a great concept they are and how much they benefited from it.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">By the end of this year, we'll also have a new mental health headspace open in Bellerive in my electorate, funded by the Albanese Labor government. This new headspace will make sure young people get the support that they need in terms of their mental health.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>FernyRox, Lindsay Awards</title>
          <page.no>2111</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p>
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">FernyRox</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Lindsay Awards</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2111</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McIntosh, Melissa MP</name>
              <name.id>281513</name.id>
              <electorate>Lindsay</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281513" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mrs McINTOSH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lindsay</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:36</span>):  In Lindsay we know how to come together to support one another, to celebrate community and to make a difference. This October I have two wonderful initiatives happening in my electorate that celebrate the strength, generosity and community spirit of Western Sydney and the people of the Lindsay community.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">On Saturday 18 October I'll be joining the amazing team at Fernwood, Penrith, for FernyRox. This Hyrox inspired challenge is a woman's fitness event like no other—strength, connection and community for women aged 14 and over teaming up to run, lift and laugh their way through a series of workout challenges. You can do it in teams of two, three or four. I encourage all the women of Lindsay to participate. It's not just about having fun and fitness. It's about women supporting women and raising vital funds for the McGrath Foundation, helping ensure that no families face breast cancer alone. There will be prizes for the best dressed. Lots of small businesses will be involved and we have some incredible donations. I want to thank Astina Penrith, the Log Cabin, Alexander's at Panthers, Cables Wake Park, Boss Consulting, Hoyts Penrith, Insignia Salon and the <span style="font-style:italic;">Nepean Belle</span> for their generosity and community spirit.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is really important to hold events like this in communities. I am talking about how fun it will be, but it is about raising awareness and funds for breast cancer. The Penrith community has done an extraordinary job. It has meant that we have more breast care nurses in our local Nepean Hospital, which is a public hospital, to support those families that are going through their toughest times. We've held events over many years. I'd like to acknowledge Gai Hawthorn for running Pink Up Penrith—it's part of the CBD corporation—and all our supporters over the years. It is such a worthwhile cause.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">While celebrating community, I'm also proud that nominations are open for my Lindsay Awards. These awards are an annual celebration of the people and organisations that make Lindsay such an extraordinary place to live. They recognise those who lead, serve and inspire others through their dedication, compassion and drive to make a difference. We're honouring local heroes. We have categories for leadership, healthy active living, community service and business and, of course, people who teach our kids. Each category reflects values that define our region—courage, kindness and commitment to community. We've had volunteers, teachers, coaches and business owners win past awards. They truly embody the heart of our community. This award and the local pink-up event that I'm holding are a true testament to the fact that when our community comes together we can do extraordinary things.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Youth Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>2112</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Youth Voice in Parliament</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2112</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Comer, Emma MP</name>
              <name.id>316551</name.id>
              <electorate>Petrie</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316551" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms COMER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Petrie</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:39</span>):  What steps should the government take today to build a better tomorrow for young Australians? This was the question posed to young people across the country as part of the Raise Our Voice Australia campaign. Today I have the pleasure of reading the visions for the future from bright young people in Petrie. Thirteen-year-old Grace is passionate about reforming education. She says:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Right now, many schools teach subjects that don't always match the jobs that will be needed in the future.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">If we invest in education that focuses on technology, renewable energy, and sustainable industries, we can give young Australians the skills to thrive in tomorrow's workforce.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">This change is important not just for me, but for my friends, our families, and our environment.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">By learning how to innovate with clean energy and digital technologies, we can create jobs that protect our planet while strengthening our economy.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The government can help by funding modern classrooms, supporting teacher training in emerging industries, and providing hands-on opportunities for students to explore technology and sustainability.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">In summary, investing in future-focused education is essential for giving young Australians the skills and opportunities we need.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">We should encourage our leaders to prioritise education that prepares us for the jobs of tomorrow, builds a sustainable future, and empowers our generation to succeed.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Together, we can create a brighter, smarter, and greener Australia.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Thirteen-year-old Siyona wants the government to promote multiculturalism. She says:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">As Martin Luther King Jr. once said, "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Racism still exists, and it's up to us to stop it.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Recently, during the anti-immigration protest, I was advised not to go outside.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Although I was born and raised here, my Indian heritage and skin colour made me a target.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That's not the Australia I believe in.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Racism divides, fuels injustice and denies basic rights. People from diverse backgrounds help carry Australia's economy, building the systems we all rely on.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Racism weakens what they help strengthen.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Silence fuels it- action fights it.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">We must remove barriers, create equal opportunities, and promote genuine connection.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Migrants and First Nations peoples must be heard. Parliament should fund multicultural events, include diverse voices in policymaking, and create spaces for people to share their experiences and stories.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">This change matters, not just for me, but for the future of our country.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Imagine a world where everyone is valued equally?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Judged by character, not colour. United.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Because as the song says: "I am, you are, we are Australian"</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">At only 13, Grace and Siyona have proven already they have strong ideas on how the government can build a better future for everyday Australians. The Raise Our Voice campaign is a powerful reminder that young Australians deserve to be heard.</span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Forestry Industry</title>
          <page.no>2112</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Forestry Industry</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2112</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Penfold, Alison MP</name>
              <name.id>248895</name.id>
              <electorate>Lyne</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248895" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms PENFOLD</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lyne</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:42</span>):  The announcement by New South Wales Premier Chris Minns on Sunday 7 September to create the Great Koala National Park on the New South Wales North Coast was a day to remember for its ignorance of the science and for its base political manoeuvring to harvest votes. To underscore its malicious duplicity, it was announced on Father's Day, a day when dads who work in the North Coast timber industry were told that their jobs were in jeopardy if not lost. What a low and cruel blow—not just to those who work in state forests but to the many downstream timber workers, many in my electorate. The announcement of the park, one that won't be created for some 18 months, included an immediate moratorium on timber harvesting across the whole 176 hectares of state forest designated to be reclassified. The premier tore up sovereign contracts with timber mills. Trucks due to arrive the next day at my local Herons Creek mill were redirected with no notice, no care or concern for the commercial impacts and no concern for jobs—just politics. I had the wife of one of the workers speak to me, fear in her eyes, about her family's future, and I heard stories of the men brought to tears on hearing their fate.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The people on the ground know all too well that declaring national parks isn't the cure-all for koalas and that the threats to them are more from urbanisation, vehicles, dogs, disease and wildfires. Nearly 90 per cent of all crown land forest estate on the North Coast is already reserved from timber harvesting. This new park will make that closer to 95 per cent. Where is the sense in that? We know that the annual running and maintenance costs of a national park are more than 10 times higher than those of a state forest. We know that, if these forests are not well managed with road networks and regular fuel reduction, they'll become raging infernos on hot, windy days. We know that scientifically based, comprehensive timber harvest planning systems ensure that timber production and biodiversity coexist. Timber is not harvested where koalas live. We know that blackbutt forests provide little nutritional value for koalas, yet swathes of them are included in the new park, and research shows that koala density is mostly similar between state forests and national parks.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Minns says that the park is to be funded by the Albanese government under a deal to register a dodgy carbon project under the improved native forest management method. Serious concerns have been raised about the methodology, including additionality and adverse environmental and economic impacts. The truth reveals that this is not about koalas. It's not even about genuine conservation, and it's certainly not about jobs. It's about money and politics.</span>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Bonner Electorate: Community Events, Breast Cancer Awareness Month</title>
          <page.no>2113</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Bonner Electorate: Community Events</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Breast Cancer Awareness Month</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2113</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Cook, Kara MP</name>
              <name.id>316537</name.id>
              <electorate>Bonner</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316537" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms KARA COOK</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bonner</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:45</span>):  Firstly, can I say that I'm proud to be a Queenslander every day of the week, but particularly this week following the back-to-back victories of the Brisbane Lions and the incredible win on Sunday of the Broncos NRLW and, of course, the mighty Broncos' win after 19 years. Go, the Broncos!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I recently had the privilege of attending Quandamooka Festival on beautiful Minjerribah, also known as North Stradbroke Island. It was a celebration of living culture, with First Nations singers, dancers and artists coming together to share tradition, culture and identity. This year's festival was especially significant as it was the first to be held beside the newly opened QUAMPI Arts and Cultural Centre. This striking new hub for Quandamooka arts, storytelling and truth-telling received funding from the Australian government's Indigenous Land and Sea Corporation and is a must-visit for anyone travelling to Minjerribah. QUAMPI takes its name from the oyster and its pearl shell, a sacred and sustaining food for the Quandamooka people for thousands of years. Now it will also nourish culture and committee through art. Congratulations to QYAC and chair Cameron Costello and to all the volunteers who made the festival such a success. I cannot wait to return next year.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">October is also Indigenous Business Month. It was fantastic to see all the stalls at the festival showcasing incredible Indigenous artists and entrepreneurs, including renowned artist Delvene Cocaktoo Collins.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month, a powerful reminder of how far we've come in the fight against breast cancer and how much more we must do to ensure that no-one is left behind. Recently, I met with Rachelle and her incredible team from So Brave, a young women's breast cancer charity doing outstanding work to raise awareness, build resilience and empower women under 40. Their message is clear and urgent: breast cancer doesn't wait until you are 50. Routine screening in Australia starts at 50. So, for younger women, early detection relies heavily on knowing your symptoms and family history.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese government has been acting on breast cancer. We've listed lifesaving breast cancer medicines on the PBS, reducing costs that could otherwise reach over $100,000 per treatment to just $31.60, or $7.70 with a concession card. We've also invested over $190 million to establish the Australian Cancer Nursing and Navigation Program, including 100 new cancer nurses through the McGrath Foundation, helping women navigate their diagnosis and care—no matter where they live. Early detection saves lives, and every woman, no matter her age, background or postcode, deserves the very best chance at survival.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Olds, Mr Peter, OAM</title>
          <page.no>2113</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Olds, Mr Peter, OAM</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2113</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">O'Brien, Llew MP</name>
              <name.id>265991</name.id>
              <electorate>Wide Bay</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="265991" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LLEW O'BRIEN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wide Bay</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:48</span>):  At the heart of every community are its people. The generosity, dedication and character of those people shape a town. Peter Olds was one of Maryborough's greatest contributors. In his passing at age 95, we say goodbye to a man who gave so much of himself to family, faith and community. Indeed, Peter was Maryborough and Maryborough was Peter Olds.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Peter's lifelong devotion to volunteering stands as an example to others. He served on many committees, including the Maryborough Meals on Wheels, Blue Nursing Agency and BlueCare, and he gave his time to the Maryborough Hospital Museum. As an elder of the Presbyterian and Uniting Churches, his leadership was always grounded in humility and service. For more than 30 years, Peter was a board member of Saint Stephen's Private Hospital, where he not only sat at the table of governance but also rolled up his sleeves to apply his engineering skills for the hospital's benefit. From repairing wheelchairs to mentoring young people, Peter gave his time and talents freely, always, and with the quiet intent of helping others.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Peter was also a remarkable engineer, inventor and innovator. He was a founding member of the Model Engineers and Live Steamers Association, building locomotives and engines that brought joy and raised funds for good causes. His crowning achievement was the design and supervision of the working replica of Maryborough's historic Mary Ann locomotive, now a local icon. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Through Olds Engineering, he contributed to heritage tourism, restored historic locomotives and even helped make part of Queen Elizabeth II's royal coach. His inventions, from the Olds elevator to specialised hospital beds, demonstrated his ingenuity and his desire to make life better for others. His recognition from Maryborough's citizens as the 2000 Citizen of the Year and the Order of Australia medal reflect the breadth of his achievements. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But for all his public contributions, Peter's deepest dedication was to his family and his faith. A devoted husband to Jan, who passed away last year, and a proud father to Maryanne, Robert, Andrea and Sharyn, Peter was also a much-loved grandfather and great-grandfather. His family were his joy and his legacy, and, through them, his values and love endure. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Guided by faith, humility and a generous heart, Peter Olds enriched countless lives. Maryborough will long remember him not only for what he built but for who he was. Rest in peace, Peter Olds.</span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Youth Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>2114</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Youth Voice in Parliament</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2114</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Gorman, Patrick MP</name>
              <name.id>74519</name.id>
              <electorate>Perth</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="74519" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GORMAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Perth</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister to the Prime Minister, Assistant Minister for the Public Service and Assistant Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:51</span>):  In this place we have an important responsibility to listen to the voices of young Australians. I had the opportunity to do that last month when, alongside my colleague Senator Dorinda Cox, I hosted a schools youth forum. What the students from schools across the Perth electorate said to me was that they wanted to have more opportunities to engage with their elected members and to feel that they were genuinely heard in those discussions.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Today, through the Raise Our Voice campaign, I have the privilege of raising the voice of one young leader in my electorate. I'll be sharing the words of Chloe, who is a student at Perth Modern School. She has chosen to write about the importance of making sure that we invest in education. Her speech is as follows:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I am Chloe, a 15-year-old Perth Modern School student from the Perth electorate.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">And I would like to begin with a story.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Graduating from a middle-class primary school, it is often the little things that I reflect on. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I remember a friend who brought the same Vegemite sandwich for lunch every day. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Another could not buy new stationary until her mum finished TAFE.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Another courageously shared her parent's experience with cancer. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Looking back, I realise how much I overlooked these signs of struggle. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The same schooling system that was meant to support my friends never acknowledged the tangible effects of socioeconomic barriers.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Whether it be nutritionally, academically, or emotionally, my friends were left to navigate in the dark. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Now in high school, I see how those early disadvantages snowball. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">While I attend a selective school with specialist programs and university pathways, my primary school friends got funnelled into under-resourced schools, pushed toward … dead ends.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Our education system prides itself on giving every child a "fair go", but what our kids really need is equity. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">They need you to recognise that some of them need more support to reach the same starting line. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">To our representatives in Parliament—children's futures should not depend on the postcodes.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Fund schools based on need and ensure every student has access to the same opportunities regardless of where they live. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Their futures, Australia's future, depends on you.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Those are Chloe's words. That is one of a number of outstanding contributions from students in the Perth electorate that were put forward to me to choose from. What it reminds us of is that, when Chloe speaks about fairness and opportunity, there are people who are listening to those calls. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to thank Chloe for participating. I want to thank every young Australian across the country who participated in the Raise Our Voice campaign. I think what you see across the parliament here is that it's a reminder that young people do have a voice in this parliament. Many of them aren't able to vote yet, but they still have all of the democratic rights of representation and the ability to contact their members of parliament and put forward their views about the decisions we make.</span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>England, Mr Christopher Edward</title>
          <page.no>2115</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">England, Mr Christopher Edward</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2115</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Pasin, Tony MP</name>
              <name.id>240756</name.id>
              <electorate>Barker</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="240756" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr PASIN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Barker</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:54</span>):  I rise today to pay tribute to the late Chris England, a man whose life embodied community spirit, quiet leadership and deep devotion to both his family and his beloved community. Chris served on the Kingston District Council for an extraordinary 30 years. He was first elected in 1995, and, for the first 15 years, he represented the Coorong and Watervalley wards, and, following a council restructure, he continued to serve the entire Kingston district community with the same commitment that defined his public life. Chris also served as deputy mayor between the years of 2010 and 2014 and again between 2018 and 2022, providing stability, guidance and wisdom through times of change.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Chris's legacy, though, extends far beyond the council chamber. Kingston was more than just where Chris lived; it was his heartland. Born and bred there, he poured his soul into his beloved farm, The Snuggery, a place that reflected his quiet strength, his dedication and his deep connection to the land. He understood the rhythm of rural life, the value of hard work and the importance of community.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Those who knew him will tell you he was a man of integrity and of calm purpose. When things got tough, Chris was the one that people turned to—the steady hand; the fixer; the man who made things right without fuss or fanfare. Chris led with his actions more than his words. He listened carefully, he thought deeply, and, when he spoke, people listened, because they knew his advice came from a place of wisdom and experience. He gave his time generously, not for recognition but because he believed in making a difference. His quiet strength, his mentorship and his deep care for others have left an enduring mark on the Kingston community.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Above all, Chris was a devoted family man. He adored his wife of 46 years, Liz, and together they built a life rich with love, laughter and shared memories. He was the proud father of Sarah, Rachel, Claire and James, and a loving father-in-law to Chris, Matt and Saanchi. He was also a much-loved Pa to his eight grandchildren, Chloe, Hugh, Olivia, India, Owen, Ivy, Jase and Cora, who all brought him immense joy. Chris also leaves behind his sisters, Sue, Sally and Rebecca, and a community that regarded him both as a friend and a bastion of strength.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Chris will be remembered not only for what he did but who he was—a true gentleman; a wise and humble soul; a much-loved pillar of strength for his family and his community. His legacy of integrity, service and compassion will continue to shape Kingston for years to come. Vale, Chris England.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>International Day of Older Persons</title>
          <page.no>2115</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">International Day of Older Persons</span>
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          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>2115</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Clutterham, Claire MP</name>
              <name.id>316101</name.id>
              <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316101" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CLUTTERHAM</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Sturt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:57</span>):  On Sunday 5 October 2025, I celebrated the International Day of Older Persons at the Morialta Uniting Church at Magill in my electorate of Sturt. I celebrated with a special group of people, coming together not only to honour elderly members of our community—or 'silver members' as they were elegantly described. Members of the parish of the Morialta Uniting Church, led by Bruce and Reverend Anne Butler, partnered with the Dawoodi Bohra community, led by the effervescent and passionate Nishreen Adenwala and her husband, the bingo master, Zulficar Adenwala.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">There are approximately 40 Dawoodi Bohra communities across Australia, including a thriving and active one in Adelaide, and members, who are practising Muslims, adhere to the values of fraternity, peace and humanity. Dawoodi Bohras are active advocates of goodwill and philanthropy and seek to help and uplift those less fortunate through their various philanthropic endeavours.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This past Sunday, they organised the event at the Morialta Uniting Church, in order to provide information and support to 'silver members' of the community. The theme of this year's celebration of older persons was 'Older persons driving local and global action: our aspirations, our well-being and our rights', and, in this style, Nishreen and her colleagues organised for informative speakers to attend, to talk about aged-care advocacy and the importance of physical movement and exercising the brain. Attendees were provided with delicious cooked food, in order to fill them for a gentle exercise session, and were then given the opportunity to exercise their brains with an intense and good-natured game of bingo led by the bingo master. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Most importantly, however, this partnership between the Dawoodi Bohras and the Morialta Uniting Church is a beautiful demonstration of interfaith connection. These groups look different, have different native languages, dress differently and practise quite different faiths, but they see the value in these differences and they have a special bond that I have had the privilege of witnessing several times. Despite these differences, they are firmly united in their dedication to serving others. The only thing I ever hear members of this unique group ask is this:  What can I do for others? What can I do for my community?. So I say to Nishreen, Zulficar, Bruce and Anne: thank you. To get old and age is one of life's greatest blessings. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Claydon</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  In accordance with standing order 193, the time for members' constituency statements has concluded. </span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2115</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>248181</name.id>
                <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>2116</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
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          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">BILLS</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Appropriation Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026</title>
          <page.no>2116</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <a href="r7354" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Appropriation Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026</span>
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            </a>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Consideration in Detail</title>
            <page.no>2116</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo>
          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Consideration in Detail</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2116</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>248181</name.id>
                <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="248181" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms Claydon</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">)</span> (<span class="HPS-Time">17:01</span>):  Before the Federation Chamber considers the first portfolio, I want to remind all members of the purpose of the consideration in detail stage and outline the way it is expected to proceed so that we are all on the same page. Earlier today, the House agreed to a resolution setting the order and timing for the consideration of portfolios. Any variation to this order and timing can only be made by a motion moved by a minister. Consideration in detail is the debate, and the call will be alternated between government and non-government members, as always. Even though this debate sometimes takes the form of questions and answers, this is not question time. Ministers and government backbench members will both be considered as speakers for the government's turn and should bear this in mind when they seek the call. Members are required to be relevant to the portfolio being examined, but there is no requirement for direct relevance to any questions asked. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Given the time limits applied to each portfolio, it might be practical for ministers to respond to more than one speaker when they seek the call. Each minister and member will have up to five minutes to speak each time they are called, but they may wish to speak for a shorter time. Ministers may wish to speak first and make an introductory statement when the debate on their portfolio begins, but that is a matter for them to decide. Members will be aware of the terms of the resolution providing dates and times, after which the questions to agree to expenditure on each portfolio will be put, if debate does not conclude earlier. To avoid confusion, when these times are reached, a member who is speaking will be allowed to continue their remarks, but chairs are obligated to put the question immediately at the conclusion of the member's speech, and no further debate will be permitted.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, I want to remind advisers to members and ministers who may be in the room in the roped-off gallery places that they must only be accessed through the doors adjacent to the gallery, not through the doors reserved for members, and that they may not intrude onto the floor of the Federation Chamber at any time. I want you all to understand this. This is exactly the same rule that operates in the other chamber. Nobody but elected members are on the floor debating at any time. If, for some reason, an adviser needs to seek the attention of members or ministers, we won't be tolerating calling out from the sidelines. There are attendants here that you can get messages to and from, or you can go across to the gallery and talk to your advisers yourselves; that's fine.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="text-align:center;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Education Portfolio</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Proposed expenditure, $1,444,249,000</span>
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          </speech>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2116</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Bell, Angie MP</name>
                <name.id>282981</name.id>
                <electorate>Moncrieff</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="282981" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BELL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moncrieff</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:05</span>):  During my 2024 consideration-in-detail speech as shadow minister for early childhood education and care, my opening line was this: 'It's been two years, three budgets and I haven't met a single Australian who is better off under Labor.' Here we are in the same position, on the same downhill spiral under this government, and the question is: are Australians safer and are they more secure than they were when Labor took office? The answer is a categorical no, because the reality is Australians always suffer under Labor. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">They can see through the thinly veiled lies and the carefully crafted messages from Labor's best spin doctors. Labor promised cheaper power, more homes, free visits to the doctor and lower taxes. But power prices continue to skyrocket, housing is more unaffordable than ever, out-of-pocket costs—well, they're normal now, and new taxes are on the table. So it's no wonder Australians feel disappointed in their prime minister, and rightly so. Australians expect better from their prime minister. They expect more, and they have every single right to feel let down. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Like many Australians, I'm deeply concerned about quality and about safety in our early learning centres. It seems like every night we turn on the news there's a fresh example of alleged abuse or safety failures in our early learning centres. Just last week a centre in Sydney's south-west was shut down amid alleged safety concerns. I will put on the record, however, that I do acknowledge the work of the minister and recognise the bipartisanship that has been demonstrated over recent months. While the minister may have met with his state and territory counterparts to agree on a plan, it's concerning to see the level to which these poor examples of child safety have been allowed to spiral out of control before the government acknowledged that there was a problem and that a solution was needed. We simply cannot have a weak system where bad and evil people can find vulnerabilities to cause irreparable harm to children. Parents have lost faith in this government. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Whilst the coalition does support the government's approach to these child safety reforms, some big questions remain. How will the minister ensure each measure is implemented to ensure consistency across all states and territories? And who will be footing the bill? Something needs to be done now to protect our littlest learners, our most precious assets, and ensure they have a safe environment in which to thrive.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Families are not just waiting for this government to ensure their own children's safety. They are still waiting for this government to provide some relief by bringing down the increasing cost of early childhood education and care, which has continued to rise and rise and rise under this government. In June, the <span style="font-style:italic;">Daily Telegraph</span> reported that nearly 20 suburbs in New South Wales alone were spending more than 40 per cent of their household income on child care. It's no surprise that these suburbs are deemed regional, rural or remote, because Labor does not care about those communities. The government love to talk about no Australian being worse off under them, no child being left behind and how important access to early learning is for children and their parents, but what they conveniently forget to tell you is that those statements don't apply to those who live in regional, rural or remote areas.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We know that, in many cases, children living in our regional areas are more likely to start developmentally behind when compared to children living in our major cities, yet this government has no plans to support children and their families in regional areas. With fees continuing to skyrocket and accessibility even more scarce, how does this government plan to deliver cost-of-living relief to families accessing early childhood education? What plans do you have to increase access for these families across Australia who are stuck on waiting lists? What about families in regional, rural and remote communities struggling to pay their bills? What's your plan to ensure the safety of our littlest learners when they're in care? You've killed the Australian dream of owning a home. You've crushed small business. You're draining our regions dry, and you continue to provide no certainty to families. Australians deserve better than this half-baked and underwhelming Albanese Labor government.</span>
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              </body>
            </talk.text>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2117</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Clutterham, Claire MP</name>
                <name.id>316101</name.id>
                <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="316101" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CLUTTERHAM</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Sturt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:10</span>):  Education lifts people out of poverty. It teaches people to think critically and think for themselves how to identify and solve a problem. It gets people ready to participate in the workforce to build our communities and country. Together with health, it is the single most important factor in building the foundations of a productive economy. A healthy population underpins a healthy economy, and that healthy economy can stretch, grow and become more productive with an educated workforce. Providing opportunities for all Australians to obtain a meaningful education will always be a feature of Labor governments, and the Albanese Labor government is no exception.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We know that it's important that quality education begins in early childhood and extends through primary school and high school and on to tertiary education, TAFE, VET and apprenticeship programs. Education is a lifelong endeavour, and cementing opportunities for lifelong learning must always be a priority. I see the fruits of the Albanese Labor government's significant educational reforms almost every day when I'm out and about in my great electorate of Sturt. Home to 44 public, private and independent primary and high schools, the people of Sturt value education. The northern part of Sturt is also home to the Gilles Plains TAFE, which I have visited several times to speak to education professionals and students about the emphasis that this government has placed on TAFE and VET.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This institution is thriving under the leadership of Fiona Champion, Executive Director of Students, Strategic Planning and Policy. Fiona introduced me to several students, including Rachel, an enthusiastic enrolled nursing student in her mid-40s. Rachel had spent the better part of her 20s, 30s and early 40s raising her four children and then wanted to do something for herself and her community. Rachel explained to me that it was only through the government's free TAFE program that she could take this step because she and her husband couldn't afford for her to stop working and pay tuition. For Rachel, it is simply not true that you don't value something if you don't pay for it. The depth of Rachel's gratitude for the opportunity presented to her was clear. She deeply valued the education she was receiving and was determined to repay this through service to her fellow Australians as an enrolled nurse. And the, there are the other students who will go on to complete paid practical placements as part of their studies, including eligible teaching, midwifery, nursing and social work students. They will all benefit from the Commonwealth's paid prac placement system.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">At the other end of the spectrum is this government's investment in building a universal early childhood education system. We know you can't grow it without workers, which is why the government's 15 per cent pay rise for early childhood educators was so critical. When you have skilled workers who are motivated to stay in the industry because they are being paid a proper wage, you can fulfil your belief that every child has the right to go to an early childhood education centre. The government's three-day guarantee, which will replace the current activity test from January 2026, ensures that every child is guaranteed access to at least three days of high-quality early education. It is not unfair or divisive to provide this opportunity for children, who do not decide where they are born, how much their parents earn or what their parents have the capacity to do from a work perspective. Children don't decide these things. Governments need to provide frameworks for access to quality education from an early age, which is what this government is doing. Once children progress to primary school, they will benefit from the Better and Fairer Schools Agreement, which will see the Commonwealth increase its contribution to the schooling resource standard, which equates to an extra $16.5 billion to public schools over a decade.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As a product of Australia's public school system, I am very proud of this commitment. I'm especially proud that it's not a blank cheque and that the onus will be on schools to implement reforms with respect to school attendance, student health, individualised support for students, and teacher retention and recruitment. This will be especially important in STEM subjects, where the government will also invest $7 million to expand STEM initiatives in schools. Targeted opportunities for all Australians—that is the educational present this government is determined to champion and the educational future this government is determined to build.</span>
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              </body>
            </talk.text>
          </speech>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2118</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">McKenzie, Zoe MP</name>
                <name.id>124514</name.id>
                <electorate>Flinders</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
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            <talk.text>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms McKENZIE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Flinders</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:15</span>):  I rise to speak on Appropriation Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026 in relation to education. I'm slightly disappointed to see that we don't have the Minister for Education here. I was looking forward to a conversation. Nevertheless, one of the most important things we do in this place is set overarching principles for Australia's education system, from child care and early learning through to schooling, vocational and higher education, and postgraduate research. High-quality education builds knowledge, develops character, perspective, confidence and purpose, and enables individuals to meet their potential.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The coalition's basic starting point is to recognise that each student is different and unique in needs, capability and aspiration, but that equal opportunity must be afforded to each student. We also recognise the right of each family and, indeed, each student to choose what education modality is right for them. One size fits all does not produce optimum outcomes for either the students themselves or the systems we seek to oversee and improve.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That choice is nowhere near as important as it is in the sphere of early learning. We believe Australian families should be able to make their own choices to best support their children and each family's needs and circumstances. I want to recognise the minister for much of the work he has been doing in relation to child safety in early education and care so far this term. I am grateful for the collaboration that has been on display in this place over recent months. That gratitude extends to his personal team and to his departmental team led by Secretary Tony Cook PSM.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Recent reports of child abuse have precipitated combined attention, work and progress across the political divide towards better outcomes for child safety in child care. The strengthening child safety and quality in ECEC reforms proposed at the minister's meeting in August are a step in the right direction, but the real test will be the actual implementation of measures to protect kids in child care and improve the quality of education and care.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The coalition supports the government's direction in this, but key questions remain. For example, Minister, who will be paying for these improvements in the long term? Who is responsible for the delivery of each individual measure? How will the system work in practice to ensure that every educator is covered, checked and supported in the execution of the new accountabilities we have placed on their shoulders?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Moving beyond early childhood, the shortage of qualified primary and secondary school teachers is placing immense pressure on Australian schools, students and teachers themselves. Teachers are leaving not just because of workload demands but also because of the difficulty in managing student behaviour. Out of 80 OECD countries, Australia ranks 71st when it comes to classroom discipline, and our results are tanking. Globally, we have failed in maths, science and reading. NAPLAN results show that one in 10 Australian students require additional support today.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our results are particularly concerning for boys. In year 9, only 82 per cent of boys meet the minimum writing standard in NAPLAN compared to 91 per cent of girls. This is a trend of declining literacy that I first raised in my maiden speech in this place three years ago. Boys are falling behind. Some 23 years ago my then boss, the Minister for Education, Science and Training, Brendan Nelson, hit the alarm button after the parliamentary report <span style="font-style:italic;">B</span><span style="font-style:italic;">oys</span><span style="font-style:italic;">:</span><span style="font-style:italic;"> getting it right</span> showed that fewer boys than girls completed high school, more girls were entering university, more boys were being suspended for disciplinary reasons, and literacy rates and numeracy rates for girls were much higher than they were for boys. Almost a quarter of a century later things are still worse for boys, not better. So I asked the minister: What is being done to restore safe learning environments for teachers and students? What is he doing to fix the shortage of over 4,000 secondary teachers in 2025? As an immediate priority, what actions has he taken to lift literacy standards among boys?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, on the topic of ensuring the next generation is equipped for the future, our society is in the midst of a technological revolution led by AI. In the last parliament, the House Standing Committee on Employment, Education and Training made a number of critical recommendations regarding the appropriate use of generative AI in the Australian education system. Disappointingly, the government has still not responded. AI is now well embedded in our world of work and our education system, but we are in real danger of generative AI preparing the curriculum, setting the exam, sitting the exam and marking the exam, without a whole lot of learning going on in between. Fields such as law, accounting, data entry, design and media, which thousands of Australians graduate in from our universities every year, are amongst the most exposed to AI disruption. Meanwhile, trades and technical roles, which are critical to our economy and far less susceptible to automation, are struggling to attract and retain apprentices. It is a fact that there are 107,000 fewer apprentices now than when this government came in— <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2119</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Coffey, Renee MP</name>
                <name.id>312323</name.id>
                <electorate>Griffith</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms COFFEY</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Griffith</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:20</span>):  In my first speech as a new member of parliament, earlier this year, I explained that I am Labor because I believe in the primacy of education and its power to transform lives. As our Minister for Education, Jason Clare, shared, 'education is the great equaliser in an unequal world'. I know this to be true because I have seen it in action. I have seen in my career that a quality education is what gives every child the chance to thrive, no matter where they grew up. In my community—from Bulimba to Holland Park and Carina to West End—parents, teachers and young people across my electorate of Griffith tell me that education is at the heart of their hopes for the future. That's why the Albanese Labor government is continuing to build a better and fairer education system, from early childhood and schools to higher education. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We know the best start begins with early education. Early education is important because it establishes critical foundations for a child's future success, laying the groundwork for cognitive, social, emotional, physical and creative development during a period of rapid brain growth. Having been a working mum of two young boys, I know firsthand the struggle of paying for the best quality early education and care for our little people while trying to make up for lost salaries and readjust to a job and career following periods of parental leave. In Griffith, families are benefiting from Labor's cheaper childcare policy, which is saving the average family around $7,400 a year—that's real cost-of-living relief—and, from January 2026, every child will have access to at least three days of high-quality early education under our three-day guarantee. This is about making sure that every child in Griffith, no matter their family circumstances, gets the best start. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For too long public schools were left behind. My two boys attend our small local state school. It's a place of wonder, exploration, discovery and learning. The school is supported by a remarkable school leadership team, and my boys' learning is facilitated by some of the best, most dedicated teachers in the world. But, having sat on the school council of this small state school, I had too often seen the principal forced to choose between paying for new literacy resources for the little school library or the plumber to unlock the P-3 toilets or the contractor to complete drainage repairs or the pest exterminator to deal with the persistent rodent problem, or for essential upgrades to our outdoor safety lighting. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our hardworking P&amp;C parents across the country work hard, selling raffle tickets, trivia tables, second-hand uniforms and salad wraps to make up the shortfall—and we have done a very good job over so many years. As one of my handprinted corflutes during the campaign said: school mums get stuff done! I acknowledge the work and dedication of our P&amp;C parents the country over for all that you do and the teachers and the school leaders who invest their own money in classroom resources to ensure our kids don't miss out. It's exhausting but essential work to ensure our public schools aren't left behind due to shortfalls in funding. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor is changing that. We're investing an additional $2.8 billion in Queensland's state schools over the next 10 years, putting every public school on the path to full and fair funding. Griffith is home to 45 schools, and many are already seeing the benefits of our targeted investments. Through the Schools Upgrade Fund, we've delivered over $100,000 in local school infrastructure upgrades, including for Camp Hill State Infants and Primary School, Whites Hill State College and Dutton Park State School. This critical funding is helping schools improve facilities, build pride in their communities and give students the learning environments they deserve. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're also making higher education fairer and more accessible. In Griffith, almost 32,000 people have a HECS debt, and, thanks to Labor's reforms, they will see an average cut of $6,392 each. For someone on $70,000, repayments have dropped around $1,300 a year. We're also supporting students through the Commonwealth prac payment, so those studying teaching, nursing, midwifery and social work can afford to complete their placements.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">More than 20 years ago, when I was studying at university for the first time, I undertook a Bachelor of Arts and a bachelor of education degree at the University of Queensland. My intention was to graduate and become a teacher. However, when it came time to do my final prac, it meant giving up work for six weeks, and that was not something that I could afford. I graduated with only my arts degree, and it was many years before I was able to save up, go back to university and finish my teaching qualification. Paid prac is a policy I have advocated for inside the Labor Party, and now with these changes we are able to support people studying these absolutely essential professions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Education is the single greatest investment we can make in our children, in our economy and in our future. For Griffith, this means cheaper child care, better resourced schools, fairer student debt and paid prac placements. When we invest in education, we invest in a stronger, fairer future for Griffith and for Australia.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2119</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Birrell, Sam MP</name>
                <name.id>288713</name.id>
                <electorate>Nicholls</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BIRRELL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Nicholls</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:25</span>):  I echo the disappointment that was expressed by the member for Flinders that the minister's not here to listen to these questions and answer them. It works better that way. There are some persistent structural challenges that demand our attention in the education sphere. The first one I want to raise is the Better and Fairer Schools (Funding and Reform) Act, which allowed for increased school funding under the school funding model that the coalition introduced to implement the Gonski reforms, specifically the Schooling Resource Standard. Labor's legislation last year effectively enabled the Commonwealth to increase its contribution to public schooling from 20 per cent to 25 per cent of the Schooling Resource Standard by 2034. The Commonwealth's contribution of 80 per cent of the Schooling Resource Standard to Catholic and independent schools continues. However, despite announcements spanning many photo ops between July 2024 and March 2025, concerns remain about the school funding. The Victorian government has not yet signed the bilateral agreement, so the 'full funding' language is misleading due to the heavy back ending of funding agreements with the states and territories.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">An analysis released by Save Our Schools last week concludes that public schools remain below the 100 per cent of Schooling Resource Standard in each year, including 2034, except in the ACT. Minister, when will Victoria sign its bilateral agreement so that additional funding can flow to the Victorian public school students? Is it true that, even in 2034, all public school systems, except those in the ACT, will not be receiving 100 per cent of the Schooling Resource Standard?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In relation to university sustainability, the government has invested a lot of time in talking to universities. It could be the most heavily consulted sector in Australia since the Albanese government came to power. But I ask: After four budgets, are universities stronger today than they were four years ago? Are universities better governed or more financially sustainable? Are students receiving a higher quality degree, or is university research output of a higher quality? There is also the commitment to fee-free TAFE places annually. But I also ask: do we need free TAFE or a better TAFE system?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The NAPLAN results underscore the persistent performance issues, especially in remote and regional education. Students in regional and especially very remote areas are much less likely to achieve strong or exceeding proficiency standards. Over one in three students in regional or remote areas fail to meet proficiency levels. The 2025-26 review of the Measurement Framework for Schooling in Australia represents an opportunity to develop indicators beyond NAPLAN, including student engagement and learning progression measures. An improved national data set gives us a lot of potential to address the educational challenges, including student refusal, teacher shortages and declining participation rates.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In relation to teacher shortages, much more needs to be done to tackle workforce shortages in primary and secondary schools, and solving regional workforce shortages can be even more challenging. It requires some bespoke methods. I want to mention a few. Nexus is a program run by La Trobe University that encourages people with undergraduate degrees and experience in different professions to then fast track a masters degree of teaching while working in a classroom environment. I recently visited Cobram Secondary College in my electorate and spent time in the classroom with the inspiring Carly Marriott, who was looking for a meaningful career change that allowed her to stay connected with her community. She teaches business management, and the students benefit not only from the stuff she's learnt from her masters of teaching but from her career before she entered the classroom.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Prior to coming to this place, my job was the CEO of the Committee for Greater Shepparton, and employees would come to me saying, 'We can't find the young people with the skills and training opportunities to take our businesses forward.' In 2019 I applied for a Churchill Fellowship to look at this in Germany, UK, Finland and Sweden. I saw a vocational education system that was far more impressive than what we have here in TAFE, and it was much more linked to the business community, particularly in Germany.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">While I've got a few more moments, I'd like to talk about what I think needs to be a growth in regional education. I'm the beneficiary of a degree in agricultural science from Dookie, which is the regional campus of the University of Melbourne, and also an MBA, which I got at La Trobe's regional campus in Shepparton. We need to spend more time and more money taking education into the regions so that people's postcode is not a barrier to them receiving education across Australia. That can be done with a more focused effort on balancing the needs of tertiary education in the metropolitan areas with those of the regions.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2120</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Smith, David MP</name>
                <name.id>276714</name.id>
                <electorate>Bean</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="276714" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr DAVID SMITH</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bean</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:30</span>):  It is with a great sense of satisfaction that I rise to speak on the Appropriation Bill (No. 1) 2025, specifically those parts of the bill which impact the education responsibilities of the Commonwealth government. I feel great satisfaction to talk about the education portions of the bill because this government, the Albanese government, has a proven track record of expanding educational opportunities for all Australians. It has always been the Labor way. I acknowledge my friend the education minister, the member for Blaxland, for his dedication and delivery in this very important portfolio space.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the most important things that we needed to do when we returned to government back in 2022 was take a serious look at the funding for public schools across Australia. We had a situation where every non-government school in Australia was fully funded but government schools were not. This obviously created a significant equity gap for children across Australia, limiting the education outcomes for millions of children. I've heard this firsthand from teachers and school leaders, as well as how important meeting this gap was, and I know that the minister received similar feedback right across the country. We will address this gap through the Better and Fairer Schools agreements. These agreements will increase the Commonwealth government's contribution to the schooling resource standard. These agreements with the states and territories constitute the biggest new investments for public schools by any Australian government ever. Over 10 years, the government will commit an additional $16.5 billion in funding to our public schools. This will put every public school across the country on the pathway to receiving full funding.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Make no mistake; this is going to be transformative for the lives of children across the nation. It will open new doors and create new opportunities for their futures. That's what this government is all about, and I'm very proud of this important change. Alongside this funding will come new educational reforms that the government has secured for students, important changes which will secure the educational outcomes that the additional funding promises. This includes year 1 phonics and early years numeracy checks. The mandatory inclusion of phonics and early years numeracy checks is an important way of looking after the basics, making sure that our kids are off on the right path on their educational journey.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're also including, as part of the funding support, more support for the attraction and retention of teachers. It is no secret that we have a teacher crisis right across Australia. Not enough people want to become teachers, and not enough teachers want to remain in the profession. This is felt across the full spectrum of schools but felt acutely within government schools. There are many forces which contribute to this crisis, but only government can address it. I am pleased that our government will include measures to address this crisis within our broader support for public schools.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Alongside these important changes, we will also be increasing the support that children receive along the journey through supporting small group tutoring, more mental health supports and greater individualised support for students. Our Better and Fairer Schools Agreement is an important step to bring greater equality of opportunity to all Australians. Combined with our investments in TAFE and the university sector, including in regional hubs—there will be one in my electorate, on Norfolk Island—our investments in early education are great examples of what this government is all about, providing opportunities for all at whatever stage of their education journey they might be at. </span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2121</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Venning, Tom MP</name>
                <name.id>315434</name.id>
                <electorate>Grey</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="315434" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr VENNING</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grey</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:34</span>):  Education and skills are the foundation of both opportunity and national prosperity, and I'm not talking about the law and arts degrees that litter the halls of Canberra and the electoral offices of this government. I'm talking about the vocational and technical skills that drive economies, spark innovation and build the productivity that underpins great societies. Every investment we make in education pays dividends in productivity and social cohesion, and a strong education system is what makes Australia not just a lucky country but a smart one.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But I rise today because the promise of education is not being delivered equally. Students in regional South Australia face barriers that city students do not—distance, staffing shortages and limited access to specialised subjects. It is not fair. It is not equal. Put simply, the arts, law and politics students in inner-city Melbourne who will go on to join their union and work for the Labor Party for the rest of their lives have it much easier than the young regional Aussie battlers who want to learn a trade or upskill to be able to get a job that pays fairly.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralInterjecting">An honourable member:</span>  Free TAFE.</span>
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                    <a href="315434" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr VENNING:</span>
                    </a>  I'm getting there. Teachers in the regions deserve the same professional support and access to resources as those in metropolitan areas, yet too often they are left to do more with less. Connectivity and technology remain real barriers. The digital divide isn't a slogan; it's a lived reality. There are still communities, like the District Council of Elliston, that are not even connected to the NBN. It is 2025. Imagine if the Minister for Early Childhood Education in her office in Lygon Street in Brunswick East didn't have the NBN. How on earth would staffers be able to read digital versions of the <span style="font-style:italic;">Guardian</span> and the ABC online?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For many rural families, access to secondary or tertiary education comes at an enormous cost. Boarding fees can exceed more than $20,000 a year on top of tertiary expenses. That's a barrier city families don't face, and it's one more reason why too many young people leave our regions to pursue opportunities elsewhere. We need to make vocational pathways and apprenticeships every bit as respected as university degrees. Rebuilding TAFE and strengthening the links between schools, industries and training providers should be a national priority.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But instead this government seems to believe that simply making TAFE free will fix the problem, when only 25 per cent of TAFE students actually are finishing their courses. Giving something away for free doesn't increase its value. It totally decreases it. You don't need to be an economist to work that out. I've used this analogy before and I'll use it again. If you try to pump water to a community and you find there's a gaping hole in the pipe, do you (1) fix the hole or (2) just pump more water through the pipe? This government is buying a bigger TAFE pump and running on the maxed-out government credit card. Education policy must be aligned with the workforce planning and regional economic development, not run as a headline generator for the next press conference.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">With respect to early childhood education, the earlier we invest the greater the return. Quality early learning has lifelong impacts, and yet, in my electorate of Grey, we have the worst access to child care in the entire country. I've mentioned the office of Senator Walsh, Minister for Early Childhood Education, and, let me tell you, the realities of early childhood education in my electorate could not be any further from leafy, leftie, latte Brunswick. Around one-third of families don't have access to child care at all, and, given this Labor-fuelled cost-of-living crisis where you need two incomes to raise a family, it is very difficult to employ young parents or even keep them in our regional towns. Access to early childhood education in small towns is patchy, with long waitlists, and the funding models must ensure the sustainability of rural childcare centres and kindergartens.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And let's not forget the basics. Literacy and numeracy must remain at the core of our education system, supported by evidence based teaching methods not ideologies. Before we can teach Billy from Brunswick about coding or AI, every child must first be able to read, write and count confidently.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">A fair go starts in the classroom. Education isn't an expense. It's the most strategic investment we can make in Australia's future. Let's make sure that every Australian child, regardless of their postcode, whether they live in Port Augusta, Port Parham or Port Adelaide, has the same opportunity to learn, to grow and to thrive, because that's how we build not just a lucky country but a smart, fair and united one.</span>
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                <talker>
                  <page.no>2121</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Venning, Tom MP</name>
                  <name.id>315434</name.id>
                  <electorate>Grey</electorate>
                  <party>LP</party>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2122</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Cook, Trish MP</name>
                <name.id>312871</name.id>
                <electorate>Bullwinkel</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms TRISH COOK</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bullwinkel</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:39</span>):  I rise today to speak on the Appropriation Bill (No. 1) 2025-2026 and to highlight the Albanese Labor government's profound commitment to building a better and fairer education system for all Australians. We on this side of the House understand a fundamental truth: education is the great enabler. It is the key that unlocks the door of opportunity, giving the next generation of Australians the very best start in life and equipping our nation for the challenges and complexities of the future.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our vision for education is comprehensive; it starts with our youngest citizens. The Albanese government is committed to building a universal early childhood education and care system that is safe, affordable and accessible for every family. Our cheaper childcare policy is already delivering real cost-of-living relief for over a million Australian families. For the average family receiving the subsidy, this has cut out-of-pocket costs by about $7,000 compared to what they would ordinarily have paid. This stands in stark contrast to the legacy of those opposite, under whom childcare prices rocketed by 49 per cent in just four years.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We also recognise that a quality system is built by a quality workforce, which is why the 15 per cent pay rise for our dedicated early childhood educators is so vitally important. And we're going further; we're working towards a three-day guarantee, which will ensure that, as of January 2026, each child is guaranteed access to at least three days of high-quality early learning. It will give every Australian child the best possible start. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Then, as children move into their school years, our commitment continues. For too long our public schools have been left behind. When we came to government, no public school outside of the ACT was on a path to full and fair funding. Our Better and Fairer Schools Agreement changed that. This is the biggest new investment in public schools by an Australian government ever. An additional $16.5 billion over the next decade will put every single public school on a pathway to 100 per cent of its full and fair funding. But let me be clear: this is not a blank cheque. This funding is tied directly to reforms that we know will make a difference: more small-group tutoring to help students catch up, a focus on phonics and numeracy in the early years, and more mental health and individualised support where these are needed. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The commitment extends right through to higher education, where we're building a better and fairer system so that more Australians can have a crack at going to university and can succeed when they get there. We are taking decisive action to ease the burden of student debt. We have already wiped $3 billion in debt for three million Australians, ensuring that student debt can no longer grow faster than wages. Now, through legislation recently passed, we are wiping by 20 per cent the student debt of every Australian student with a HECS debt. This isn't some abstract national figure; this is real, tangible impact right in my electorate of Bullwinkel, where 13,000 students and graduates will benefit directly from this 20 per cent cut.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But we know that for many in regional Australia the biggest barrier to higher education is distance, and that's why our government is doubling the number of university study hubs, bringing university closer to where people live. I'm immensely proud that in Bullwinkel we are seeing the direct benefits of this policy. The Lumen Wheatbelt regional university study hub in York is already changing lives, and I'm thrilled that we'll soon be opening another hub in Northam, in the heart of the regional area of Bullwinkel. These hubs are not just buildings; they are gateways to opportunity, allowing local people to pursue their dreams without having to leave their homes and communities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">From cheaper child care for families and fair funding for our public schools to real relief from student debt and greater access to universities for regional Australians, the Labor government is delivering. And that's not to forget fee-free TAFE, financially supported apprenticeships and paid prac for teachers, nurses and social workers. I commend this bill to the House.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2123</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Small, Ben MP</name>
                <name.id>291406</name.id>
                <electorate>Forrest</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr SMALL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Forrest</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:44</span>):  There is something seriously wrong with education in our country. Parents tell me that they're worried about the indoctrination of their kids with a woke ideology that conflicts with the very values that those parents are trying to instil in their kids. Local employers tell me that new graduates entering the workforce lack the skills that make someone employable today, let alone being equipped with the skills for the future.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Concerningly, these anecdotes are reflected in the data. One in three students in regional areas, like my seat of Forrest, are failing to meet proficiency levels in literacy and numeracy through NAPLAN testing, and PISA scores in the 2022 edition showed that Australia's international performance finally stopped declining only because education outcomes overseas went backwards. And yet as a nation we're spending more on education than ever before, to achieve these very poor outcomes. Minister, why do we persist with a national curriculum that demands so-called cross-curriculum priorities be taught alongside the primary subjects, when our students can't read and write reliably at the end of their schooling? Minister, why does Aboriginal history and culture have any place in a maths lesson? Minister, why does an English lesson prioritise a cross-curriculum priority of sustainability? Too many kids can't read or write, so, surely, common sense would demand greater focus on the basics of learning. But this government continues to prioritise indoctrination over education in our classrooms, and it is shameful.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I have parents in my electorate telling me that schools are permitting students to self-identify as animals, or so-called furries. They are wearing collars, audibly hissing and even scratching at fellow students, even though we see these appalling results in literacy and numeracy outcomes. To me, it is shameful that we are failing to prepare young Australians for a bright and productive future as members of our community whilst allowing those same young Australians to live under the delusion that they're cats. I'm a 'live and let live' kind of guy, but, surely, indoctrinating young people to accept and perpetuate a blatant lie because another person insists that it is 'their truth' is beyond the pale. Minister, how is this being allowed in our schools and classrooms today, and why can't teachers tell students that they're not cats?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Having spent some $16 billion of borrowed money to knock off some HECS debt in a one-off pork-barrel promise that is almost unprecedented in our history—money that tradies, waiters and barbers will need to pay back—we now need the minister to pony up and answer a very simple question: why was this policy such a good idea for a select few just before an election but isn't a good idea for the young Australians completing their final school exams across the country right now? Why do those kids need to pay full fare for their education when they will have to pay off the debt of their older peers in years to come simply because they had the misfortune to not have racked up any HECS debt just before a federal election?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In my view, too many young Australians are being pushed towards tertiary education when they'd be better suited to a vocational career, unlocked by an apprenticeship or a traineeship. Some of the most successful folks from my year 12 class are those who rolled up their sleeves and, after completing their apprenticeships, went on to build businesses, employ others and even create opportunities for new apprentices themselves. Some went back to tertiary education later in life, with some experience under their belt. We should predicate the Australian education system on what best enables Australians to become their best selves.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Instead, this government is not addressing the disconnect for those regional Australians who choose to complete a traineeship or an apprenticeship. Earlier this year, we saw Labor in WA make cuts to the overnight travel allowance that disproportionately affect regional apprentices. Amid a cost-of-living crisis, does the minister think it's fair that these hardworking young Australians who live regionally are being penalised for their decision to pursue vocational education? Has the minister addressed this inequality of opportunity for young regional Australians with his state Labor counterpart? It would cost just a fraction of what the minister just shovelled into reducing the HECS debts of tertiary students, who'll potentially earn much higher incomes.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2123</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Hill, Julian MP</name>
                <name.id>86256</name.id>
                <electorate>Bruce</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                    <a href="86256" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr HILL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bruce</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Citizenship, Customs and Multicultural Affairs and Assistant Minister for International Education</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:49</span>):  They weren't a very good government, and there's no sign that they'll be a very good opposition, but maybe they'll get better as the week goes on. I just want to respond to a few comments which have been made and, firstly, to thank the opposition, very genuinely, for their comments regarding the minister and the government's bipartisan work on child safety. Every child deserves to be safe in early childhood education and care, and every parent deserves to know that their children are safe. The media reports which were seen were shocking. They shocked every member of this parliament. We acknowledged there was more to do—that we all had more to do. And the government has acted. I thank the opposition speakers for acknowledging that.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There's the $189 million national child safety package, developed and agreed shoulder to shoulder with states and territories, to keep children safe in early learning. I acknowledge the commitment of the states and territories for more funding to improve the working-with-children check and regulators, with more compliance checks. New legislation has been passed, so we can cut funding from services not up to scratch. And we're now using those powers, with 37 services under investigation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge some of the sensible contributions, but I am worried about the opposition's collective amnesia and lack of contact with reality. I'll quote the first contribution. The first speaker said she hadn't met anyone better off. Well, I think she needs to get out more. And they really do have short memories—not just short memories about their terrible record and that wasted decade of decay, dysfunction and division, but very short memories about the propositions, the policies, they took to the last election, or indeed the way that they voted on core legislation that has come through.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Parents are better off with the cheaper child care changes—$7,740, on average, better off. They are paying lower fees than they otherwise would have. Childcare workers are better off because of the wage rises that this government proposed, which the opposition said were wasteful. There's fee-free TAFE, which the opposition leader said was wasteful; if you don't pay for something, you don't value it, according to the opposition. There are public school students who are going to be better off for years to come because, finally, this government has put in place the funding agreements so that every public school student in the country will be fully funded—will meet the recommended funding standard. Students with a HECS debt will be better off because of the 20 per cent cut to all student debts. That's building on the $3 billion of student debt cuts that we made last term. Students will be better off because of the lower repayments that they're making. There's more that I could say on the details, but I'll end my comments there to enable the member for Deakin, who is a former teacher himself, to also make a contribution.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>2124</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Le, Dai MP</name>
                <name.id>295676</name.id>
                <electorate>Fowler</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="295676" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fowler</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:52</span>):  Education is the gateway to opportunity, and my presence in this House today is proof of its power to transform a life, a family and a future. When my late mother was given a choice for refugee settlement between the United States and Australia, she chose Australia for one reason: education. I still remember her words: 'Australia is said to have the best education system in the world. That's important for you and your sisters.' That belief shaped everything that followed. Through Australian schools, I learned English, found my voice and built a life of purpose and service. Education gave a refugee girl who once spoke no English the opportunity to stand here as a member of the Australian parliament. That is the promise of education—that every child, no matter where they begin, deserves a chance to reach their full potential.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Over the past month, I've attended many year 12 graduations across my electorate of Fowler. Each one was a celebration of that promise—the end of one chapter; the beginning of another. For many of these young people, especially those from migrant and refugee families, education represents hope: the belief that hard work can open doors and that a better life is possible. I saw the pride of parents who came to this country with little but determination now watching their children graduate. It reminded me of my own mother's gratitude that her children could study freely in Australia.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But today, for too many families, that door is starting to close. Despite billions spent on education, opportunities are narrowing instead of expanding. One of the clearest examples is the job-ready graduates scheme. It was meant to steer students into areas that the economy needed, like health, teaching and science, by making those degrees cheaper. Instead, by making degrees like the humanities more than double in price, it has left countless Australians burdened with higher debt and fewer choices. I'm not dismissing the importance of business, science or technology. These skills are vital. But why are we penalising students who choose to study the humanities, the arts, philosophy and history? These disciplines teach us to think critically, understand our shared story and build empathy—qualities just as essential to our nation's future as any STEM degree.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The universities accord interim report called Job-Ready Graduates a policy that created 'perverse outcomes' and warned it could cause 'long-term damage' to our higher education system. In communities like mine, where parents work multiple jobs so their children can study, that damage is deeply personal. These families still believe, as my mother did, that education is the pathway to a better life. But rising fees and ballooning student debt are putting that dream further out of reach. That's why I introduced—and reintroduced—my private member's bill to reverse the unfair fee hike and inequities caused by this scheme. I again call on the Albanese Labor government to support it, because fixing this broken model must be a priority, not an afterthought.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Beyond universities, we must look to the young people pursuing TAFE and apprenticeships—the backbone of our future workforce. Apprentices and trainees in Western Sydney tell me they love what they're learning but they're struggling to afford it. Travel, uniforms, tools and unpaid placements are forcing many to drop out before they finish. Rizki Deni from my Fowler Youth Advisory Committee said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">The value of education shouldn't be measured only by how useful it is to the job market, but by how it helps us contribute to humanity.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our young people are not asking for handouts. They're asking for fairness, for a system that supports them to learn, to work and to build their future. If we truly want to strengthen Australia's skills pipeline, we must rebuild education around three pillars: equity, so that cost is never a barrier; relevance, so that training reflects real-world needs and placements are properly supported; and pathways, so students can move seamlessly between TAFE, university and work without falling into hardship.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Education changed my life. It gave me a voice, a home and a future. Every child in Fowler and across Australia deserves the same opportunity. Let us rebuild an education system that opens doors once more, not just for some but for all, because when we invest in education we don't just transform individual lives; we strengthen the very future of our nation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">To every student, teacher and parent I've met across Fowler: thank you for reminding me every day why education matters. Your passion and perseverance are what make our community strong. Our young people deserve no less.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2125</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Gregg, Matt MP</name>
                <name.id>315154</name.id>
                <electorate>Deakin</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="315154" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GREGG</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Deakin</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:57</span>):  I rise to speak on a subject very close to my heart—education—and how this budget continues the Albanese Labor government's significant investment in our education system. Education changes lives. It's one of the most significant determinants of social and economic mobility. I experienced this as a student, and I'm proud to have played my—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">An honourable member interjecting</span>—</span>
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                    <a href="315154" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr GREGG:</span>
                    </a>  That's right—and as a teacher. In my first contribution to this parliament as the member for Deakin, I spoke about how education builds confidence, capacity and opportunities. I saw that when I taught at Sale College, where the member for Gippsland attended as a student, as did the member for Leichhardt. That's a little bit before my time! But I was proudly part of a great school in regional Victoria, and that school is now so very well represented here in Canberra. But when I think back to my time at that school I can picture the kinds of kids that would benefit from the additional investments being made by this government. Everyone deserves access to a world-class education, whether you're in Sale, Ringwood, regional Australia or metropolitan Melbourne.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I also said in my first speech that I'm proud to be part of a government that has put every Australian public school on a path to full and fair funding. That pride has only grown as I've had the opportunity to visit more schools throughout my own electorate of Deakin. Seeing teachers go that extra mile for their students is such a joy, and they deserve the respect and resources to do their job well. That's why the Albanese government is building a better and fairer education system, from early childhood right through to university and TAFE.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When Labor came to government no public school outside the ACT was fully funded. When we don't fully fund public schools, we are leaving students behind. If they're getting the education they need, it's because our amazing teachers are going above and beyond and often putting their own money into student resources. Bear in mind that we've got teachers having to teach a cohort of students in which the range of capabilities often spans multiple years of educational development.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That's why our Better and Fairer Schools Agreement is so important. This agreement will increase the Commonwealth's contribution to the schooling resource standard, to put every public school on the path to full funding. This is the biggest new investment in public schools by an Australian government ever—a $16.5 billion investment in our students and teachers, an investment for the next generation. This funding isn't just a blank cheque with hopes and dreams or a 'magic happens' sticker. It is tied to reforms that will help students catch up, keep up and finish school, including those small group tutoring sessions, year 1 phonics, early-years numeracy assessments and checks, more individualised support, mental health support and more support to attract and retain teachers. This is big-picture investment in reform of the public education system that only a Labor government would deliver.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're also delivering targeted upgrades to schools. Just one example is Croydon Primary School, which the Minister for Education came to visit. A $6.8 million facility will provide a fantastic new space for not only students at that school but the whole community to play sport and connect. This is generational reform, and I'm so proud to be part of a government that is investing in the future of our young Australians.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Proposed expenditure agreed to.</span>
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              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>2125</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Gregg, Matt MP</name>
                  <name.id>315154</name.id>
                  <electorate>Deakin</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
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          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Consideration in Detail</title>
            <page.no>2125</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Consideration in Detail</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="text-align:center;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">
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                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Defence Portfolio</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Proposed expenditure, $27,034,885,000</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2125</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Keogh, Matt MP</name>
                <name.id>249147</name.id>
                <electorate>Burt</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="249147" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr KEOGH</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Burt</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Veterans' Affairs and Minister for Defence Personnel</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:01</span>):  As we face the most challenging strategic circumstances in our region since World War II, this government has asked the foundational questions about our strategic landscape in order to grow our capability. We are investing an additional $10.6 billion over the forward estimates, and, with the initial commitment of $12 billion towards the defence precinct in Henderson, Western Australia, we are investing an additional $70 billion over the next decade. But people are our most important Defence Force capability. The Albanese government is committed to an ADF that Australians are attracted to serving in, confident that they and their families are respected and well supported by their leadership, their mates and the broader Defence Organisation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Under those opposite, over almost a decade in government, the permanent Australian Defence Force grew by only 2,047 personnel. This was a net increase in our ADF permanent workforce of just 200 a year. Under our government, the ADF has in just 12 months increased headcount by 2,418. Recruitment and retention in the Australian Defence Force is now growing again, thanks to the Albanese government's investments and initiatives, following years of coalition neglect. Under the Albanese government in the financial year 2024-25, we enlisted the most personnel in 15 years, and ADF separation rates have dropped to well below the 10-year average. This is thanks to almost $1 billion of Albanese government investments in recruitment and retention initiatives, including continuation bonuses, improved pay and conditions for personnel, an expanded ADF family health program and improved access to housing. The Albanese government has also made the commitment to defence personnel, veterans and their families that, whatever may befall them during their service, they will be properly looked after and their service acknowledged, respected and commemorated by a grateful nation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">A little over a year ago, the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide delivered its final report, making 122 recommendations. It showed us that, for too long, ADF members, veterans and their families did not get the support they deserved and expected. We are acting quickly. In December, just three months after the final report was delivered, we accepted 104 recommendations and noted 17 for further work. By February this year, we had legislated a new, independent, statutory oversight body, deemed the most important recommendation by the royal commission. The Defence and Veterans' Service Commission will oversee long-term reform aimed at fixing a broken system. It is now up and running, with a $44.5 million budget for the next four years. We have also established a taskforce within the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet to guide the implementation of recommendations across government.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">By the time we hit the 12-month anniversary of the final report, the Albanese government had made significant progress in response, with nine recommendations fully implemented and work underway on 110 other recommendations. The government's focus has been on reforms that address the immediate health and safety of current and former serving ADF personnel and their families. That's why we got to work on improving access to services and supports while the royal commission was still underway, clearing the backlog of some 42,000 veteran claims ahead of schedule.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Good progress is also being made on speeding up the system, but there is more to do. That's why we're simplifying and harmonising the veterans' compensation system that causes confusion and frustration, which the royal commission found was a contributor to suicidality amongst our veteran community. We passed the VETS Act, the Veterans' Entitlements, Treatment and Support (Simplification and Harmonisation) Act, in February this year. This means that from the middle of 2026 all veteran claims will be assessed for compensation and rehabilitation under one single piece of legislation that will be simpler to use and faster to process. This is the most significant reform to how we support veterans in a century. It means we will be able to better provide the services and supports those in the veteran community need when they need them.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese Labor government is working to deliver the defence capabilities Australia needs and the dignity the veteran community deserves.</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2126</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Chester, Darren MP</name>
                <name.id>IPZ</name.id>
                <electorate>Gippsland</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="IPZ" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CHESTER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Gippsland</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:06</span>):  Minister, I want to draw your attention to the Defence Amendment (Defence Honours and Awards Appeals Tribunal) Bill 2025 and seek to establish a motive for why this bizarre piece of legislation has even seen the light of day. In the context of this consideration in detail, I would seek your advice as to whether this is a cost-cutting measure. Is the government's plan to effectively neuter the tribunal and attempt to save money?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For context, the tribunal was established in 2011, with the capacity to review honours and awards decisions made by the Department of Defence dating back to 1939. As a statutory agency, it was intended to act independently of government and, while it has undertaken hundreds of reviews, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest it has been overwhelmed by the workload. It was this review process which led to the decisions to posthumously award a Victoria Cross to Teddy Sheean and to Richard Norden, along with individual recognition for the bravery of Delta Company at Long Tan.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Under the changes rammed through the House of Representatives without proper consultation with ex-service organisations, the Albanese government is introducing a 20-year time limit on reviewable actions. In effect, it would mean the actions of Australian Defence Force personnel in World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War and any other conflict outside the 20-year timeframe could not be considered, even if compelling new evidence were provided.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The coalition believes that the solemn pledge 'We will remember them' in the 'Ode of remembrance' was never intended to come with a use-by date. Despite the lack of consultation with ADF personnel and veterans, the Albanese government is undermining the independence of the Defence Honours and Awards Appeals Tribunal. Stephen Skehill, the chair of this independent agency, has been completely upfront about his concerns in his submission to the Senate inquiry, released today. He agrees with the coalition that, under these changes, a very substantial majority of the applications for review decided by the tribunal since it was established would be invalidated. He also takes exception to the minister's misleading parliament by suggesting the tribunal was consulted. In his submission, Mr Skehill provides a long list of the most heroic Australians in history who would never have received medallic recognition because the actions occurred outside the 20-year timeframe or were not lodged by a person in the chain of command or an eyewitness.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese government is putting a use-by date on the 'Ode of remembrance' and on the line 'We will remember them'. The submission concludes:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">In the view of the Tribunal, the Bill in its present form would work to the very significant disadvantage of ADF members and veterans, their families and other supporters by abolishing existing rights of independent merits review in the Tribunal and would thereby detract from the integrity of the defence honours and awards system.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">'Detract from the integrity of the Defence honours and awards system'—that is from the tribunal's own submission to the inquiry. That is a polite way of saying that this legislation is a complete disgrace. The submission from the tribunal also notes:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">… the measures contained in the Bill go far beyond technical changes of a "tidying up" nature or the addition of machinery provisions to allow the more efficient conduct of business of the Tribunal. Instead, they would effectively deprive ADF members and veterans and their families of their current and very important rights to hold Defence to account, and would preclude the nation's recognition of some of its greatest heroes.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is not the coalition saying this. This is the independent statutory agency which this mob is trying to gut. This mob is trying to gut the independent statutory agency from medallic recognition of some of our nation's greatest heroes. It's a disgrace and the minister knows it.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government has provided no proof that the existing system is broken. The capacity to review decisions made by Defence was a deliberate design feature of the tribunal when it was established by the Gillard government. Again I ask: Is this a cost-cutting measure? Is the legislation intended to reduce the workload of the tribunal and reduce sitting fees of tribunal members? Nothing else makes sense.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">'We will remember them' was never intended to come with a use-by date. Veterans groups have been scathing in their assessment of this government's arrogance. I'll quote the Vietnam Veterans Association of Australia: 'This is the stuff of a dictatorship.' I'll also quote the Vietnam Veterans' Federation of Australia: 'We find the decision by the government regarding changes to the act in relation to honours and awards which allows for retrospective honours submissions to be unjust, unnecessary and immoral to the highest degree.' I thank the chamber.</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2127</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Gosling, Luke MP</name>
                <name.id>245392</name.id>
                <electorate>Solomon</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="245392" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GOSLING</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Solomon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:11</span>):  Our government, the Albanese government, is committed to ensuring that our Defence Force has the capabilities, the people and the funding that it needs to keep Australians safe—including in northern Australia, where I'm proud to represent the people of Darwin and Palmerston.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As we know, we face the most challenging strategic circumstances since World War II. Our government has asked the hard questions about our strategic landscape through the Defence Strategic Review, which obviously recognised the importance of the north to Australia's defence and security, as it was in the Second World War and as it continues to be in our day and age.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have provided stability and continuity in the Defence portfolio. This is being implemented through the National Defence Strategy and the Integrated Investment Program, the IIP. This approach has allowed us to continually assess our defence capability needs and to resource them. That is why we have increased defence funding to record levels and invested in northern Australia in particular.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In this term, delivery is fundamental to what we must achieve, and we are laser focused on delivering the capabilities we need to keep Australians safe—including in northern Australia, where our government is investing billions of dollars in upgrading our northern bases to enhance our security. The 2024 IIP allocated $14 billion to $18 billion over the next decade to bolster Australia's northern bases. We know that all of this will be needed.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government's investment plan will accelerate upgrades to RAAF Base Tindal, including airfield improvements to enable and enhance their refuelling operations by KC-30A Multi-Role Tanker Transport aircraft. I visited RAAF Base Tindal recently and spent some time with the commander, and this included looking at some protective bunkers that the US has built there. Upgrades are also occurring across key training areas, including at the Robertson Barracks in Darwin in my electorate, as well as at Lavarack Barracks in Townsville.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In September, we announced that, for the first time, US military aircraft will be pre-positioned in Australia under the force posture agreement, the FPA, with up to four V-22 Osprey tiltrotor aircraft being stored and maintained in South-East Queensland and then returning to Darwin for use during the 2026 MRF-D, or Marine Rotational Force-Darwin, rotation. Future full-time basing of those aircraft in Darwin is, of course, possible, but will be dependent on appropriate infrastructure.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Just last week, on 2 October, the Australian Army's new attack helicopters landed in Australia, with the delivery of the first two Apaches to RAAF Base Townsville. The Albanese government is also investing $700 million to provide infrastructure and facility upgrades at RAAF Base Townsville to support the introduction of the Apache fleet. All these investments by our government improve the ADF's ability to operate from Australia's northern bases, and they are a very good start. They mean more opportunities for defence industry in northern Australia, which means more jobs in communities across the north.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're working with industry. In every year of the Albanese government, defence industry has grown in terms of its financial contribution to the Australian economy and the numbers of workers engaged. Based on the latest ABS data, in the 2023-24 financial year defence industry's contribution to the economy grew by 12.4 per cent, and the number of defence industry jobs grew by 9.1 per cent. Our government is providing a record number of defence contracts to Australian industry, with $55.4 billion worth of contracts awarded to the defence industry in the 2024-25 financial year, which is a 39.7 per cent increase on the previous financial year.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're working alongside industry to deliver leading-edge capabilities, including a $1.7 billion new fleet of Australian designed and built extra-large autonomous undersea vehicles—the Ghost Shark—for the Royal Australian Navy. Anduril Australia will deliver, maintain and continue developing this world-leading capability. It really is an impressive capability. Another contract, with Leidos, announced in August, will deliver an ADF counterdrone small unmanned aircraft system capability, which is also an incredibly important capability for our defence.</span>
                </p>
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            </talk.text>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2128</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Taylor, Angus MP</name>
                <name.id>231027</name.id>
                <electorate>Hume</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="231027" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TAYLOR</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hume</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:16</span>):  I agree with the last speaker, that Australia does face the most dangerous strategic environment since the Second World War. There is no doubt that conflict is spreading. We've seen it in Ukraine. We've seen it in the Middle East. But we are also seeing the biggest military build-up in peacetime in history to the north of us by the Chinese Communist Party. At a time like this, military preparedness, military capability, a strong ADF and strong alliances are more important than at any time since the Second World War.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The sad reality is that this government is not funding our ADF to the level it needs to be funded. We need the preparedness, we need the agility, we need the sovereignty and we need the people necessary to make sure that we are able to deter war, to deter conflict—which is its purpose; it's to achieve peace in our region on a lasting basis. But you can only do that with strength, and right now we are not seeing the strength in the funding applied to our ADF in this country.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When you open Budget Paper No. 2, the Defence portfolio's total payments line shows that the additional spending in this budget versus the last one is three—not $3 billion but $3 million. They're crowing about $3 million. What they are doing at a time when we are investing in a massive and incredibly important new alliance, the AUKUS alliance, is gutting the rest of the Defence Force to partially fund the AUKUS agreement, and that is simply not good enough. This is doing a disservice to every single Australian who expects our Defence Force to be in the position it needs to be in. This is not a criticism of the people in our ADF. They are marvellous and magnificent people. But they are not being properly funded by this government.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">You see, the minister is playing mathematical tricks on this. What we're seeing from the government when it comes to funding is not proper funding; its creative accounting. What they've decided to do to get their defence spending up is change the definition of defence spending. They've decided that, for the first time, they're going to include veterans expenditure in the defence spend. Then they can go to the Americans and say: 'It's alright. We've upped our defence expenditure.' Well, this is worse than creative accounting. This is Marles mathematics. This is absolutely unacceptable when it comes to making sure that we are in the position we need to be in at a time like this. The truth is that Marles mathematics, creative accounting, will not defend this nation. What will defend this nation is proper funding, at at least three per cent of GDP; preparedness; agility; making sure we're getting the spending we need in our drone and counterdrone capability; integrated air missile defence systems; and hardening of the bases. There's big talk about this, but, when you actually look at the numbers, they're way short of where they need to be. Whether it's Henderson, <span style="font-style:italic;">Stirling</span>, Osborne or Tindal, they need serious funding that is not yet there in the budget. We all pay a price for that. Deterrence is achieved through strength. There is no strength in creative accounting. There is no strength in changing the definition of defence spending. The strength comes from investing in what is really needed at this time.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Right at the heart of this is the importance of our alliances. It is good to see this government coming to an agreement with the PNG government, but we need to do far, far more than that. Vanuatu—what happened? It's not there. The US? Well, I'm looking forward to this face-to-face meeting. It has taken way too long. We've seen three meetings between the Prime Minister and the general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party but none with the leader of the free world.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We need this government to get serious about making sure we have a properly funded Defence Force. We have the agreements in place. We have the relationships necessary to ensure that we are able to deter conflict in our region and achieve peace through strength.</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2129</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Khalil, Peter MP</name>
                <name.id>101351</name.id>
                <electorate>Wills</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="101351" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr KHALIL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wills</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Defence</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:21</span>):  It never ceases to amaze me and it's quite remarkable that those opposite, the coalition, will stand across from us today criticising the government's defence policy when they could barely scrape together their own defence policy during the recent election campaign. They love to talk a big game when it comes to defence, but, when it came down to it, they were all announcement and no delivery. Their record of delivery—if I can even call it that—while they were in government was absolutely woeful. When we came to government, those opposite had 28 different projects running a combined 97 years behind schedule. They had $42 billion in defence commitments with zero dollars behind them. They announced and reannounced capability without adequate funding. They ripped up contracts for submarines with both Japan and France. They made up cost and delivery timeframes for our future frigates, and they left the nation with a growing risk of capability gaps from guided missiles to future frigates and submarines. Nearly $20 billion had been cut from defence, by stealth, by those opposite. What we saw from the former government, when they were in government, was kind of like <span style="font-style:italic;">Top Gun</span>. It was all the hoopla and pageantry but none of the substance.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This government, the Albanese Labor government, is all about actually delivering. We have actually added $70 billion in additional spending over the next decade and an additional $10 billion to defence spending over the forward estimates. We have spent more on defence procurement in the last two financial years than ever before. We are committed to ensuring that, in this complex strategic environment that we face, the ADF, the men and women in uniform, have the equipment, the capability and the infrastructure backing them up—ensuring that the people who are doing that job for us on the frontline, to keep us safe, have everything they need.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I can go on about what they have failed to do, but the facts are the facts. We just announced $12 billion for Henderson to deliver continuous naval shipbuilding in Western Australia and make AUKUS a reality. We've announced $3.8 billion for key defence upgrades across Australia—$2 billion for the upgrade of northern airbases in the Territory, in Queensland and in the Cocos Islands; $1 billion to upgrade land and joint-estate capabilities; $600 million for maritime bases, including HMAS <span style="font-style:italic;">Coonawarra</span> and HMAS <span style="font-style:italic;">Cairns</span>; and $200 million to fast-track existing programs. We've announced that we have the Apache helicopters arriving at RAAF Base Townsville. I was up there recently, a couple of weeks ago, and, again, we committed $750 million in upgrades for RAAF Base Townsville to help set up all the infrastructure necessary for the Apaches and their arrival, including a simulation facility and new headquarters for the Army aviation units. We've delivered Ghost Shark—$1.7 billion for that autonomous undersea capability—and we've done this in the last couple of years, where they did nothing over a period of nine years.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The fact is that this government—despite the protestations by the opposition—is getting defence back on track, with the stability and continuity that it needs. The Albanese government is committed to ensuring that, in this strategic moment—in this very important moment that we face in the Indo-Pacific and globally—our ADF has all of the equipment and the capability it needs to do the job that it's doing for us in keeping Australians safe. It's about enhancing deterrence and our ability to actually contribute to collective deterrence. That much we can agree upon. The more we strengthen and enhance our defence capability, the more we can build that global collective deterrence.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We want, in investing in defence, to invest in peace. It deters others from going down the path of using force as a means to reach their strategic objectives. That is the kind of counterintuitive part of defence spending that it's important for us, as a parliament, to articulate to the public: the more we're investing in defence, the more we're investing in deterring conflict and going towards peace. That's a really important point, and I hope that the opposition, despite their need to do political pointscoring, can bring themselves to make those very important points to the public. That deterrence lessens the factors that would lead to conflict. It is also important in safeguarding the liberal, rules based order that we all prosper by. So the security and the stability in the Indo-Pacific, which we contribute to through our defence forces, and through our diplomatic and defence efforts, is of critical importance, and that is something that we in the government are committed to and delivering on.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2129</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Price, Melissa Lee MP</name>
                <name.id>249308</name.id>
                <electorate>Durack</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                    <a href="249308" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms PRICE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Durack</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:26</span>):  Our strategic environment today is the most dangerous it has been since World War II. We face a region where military expansion is accelerating, authoritarian regimes are testing the resolve of democracies and cyber and space are now as contested as land, sea and air. In that context, Australia's defence industry isn't just a source of jobs; it is indeed a cornerstone of our national security. A strong, sovereign industrial base is what allows us to sustain our forces in conflict, keep our supply chains open and ensure that we can deter threats without relying entirely on our allies and partners.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But, despite the rhetoric, there is growing disillusionment across the defence industry. Small and medium enterprises that once saw opportunity in partnering with Defence now describe a system weighed down by uncertainty and delay. Projects are announced and then quietly pushed to the right. Procurement frameworks remain slow and risk-averse. Industry partners who invested in good faith under previous programs are left wondering whether the government is genuinely committed to growing sovereign capability or simply just managing the headlines.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Take Henderson in Western Australia as an example. The government has promised a $12 billion redevelopment of the Henderson precinct, but the real cost, when all elements are counted, will be closer to $25 billion. Even then, planning for the expansion won't be complete until 2027. After their doing next to nothing for three years, we suddenly saw an announcement just before the Prime Minister's trip to the United States. Incredibly, the boundaries and definition of the precinct aren't even settled. Simply, they've done nothing in three years. So, while we welcome the renewed attention on the Western Australian shipbuilding capacity and the potential for high-skilled, well-paid jobs, the reality is that our very important defence industry needs certainty, not just spin.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And it's not just about shipbuilding. Our defence industrial policy must stretch across every important domain. A key part of building sovereign capability is investing in emerging technologies that are reshaping modern warfare. Precision munitions, drones, unmanned vehicles and autonomous vessels are no longer experimental; they are redefining the character of warfare.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">If reports that the AUKUS agreement has survived the recent US review are true, we of course welcome that. However, AUKUS alone cannot carry our entire defence industrial strategy. The government wishes to obtain nuclear submarines but does not want to spend any more money to obtain them. Instead, they have sought to cannibalise funds from other aspects of Defence. This simply symbolises the government's wrong approach to Defence. Submarines, of course, are a critical pillar, but they are not a substitute for a balanced, broad based approach to national capability. Every dollar spent through AUKUS must be matched with a commitment to strengthen local industry, encourage innovation and develop skills across the supply chain.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That brings us to workforce. It is not enough to build infrastructure if we don't have the people to operate it. We need a whole-of-nation effort, a long-term skills pipeline that connects our schools, TAFEs, universities and industry, because, without the workforce, the rest of the plan collapses. We knew this when we were in government, under the Morrison government. It was significant, a big focus of my own portfolio, because, at the time, I was the Minister for Defence Industry.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Procurement remains difficult for primes and SMEs alike. They are still struggling to break through the layers of bureaucracy that stand between them and defence contracts. These are innovative Australian firms, many with world-leading technologies, that want to contribute to the national effort. They need fair access, clear pathways and timely decisions. If the government wants industry to invest, it must provide genuine partnership, not just procurement paperwork.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, a keen interest of mine is space. Space is no longer a distant ambition; it is a frontline of modern defence, which underpins much of what our Defence Force does. At the International Astronautical Congress last week, I was pleased to meet with some proud Australian companies, including HEO and the Space Machines Company, which are developing technologies that could fit into that framework. Yet space industry has been left adrift, with key programs such as JP 9102 cancelled by the Albanese government. Given there are so many capability gaps, I ask the minister: how can the Prime Minister continue to resist raising Defence spending to at least three per cent of GDP when he has said capability will always be supported? <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2130</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Lawrence, Tania MP</name>
                <name.id>299150</name.id>
                <electorate>Hasluck</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="299150" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LAWRENCE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hasluck</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:31</span>):  The Albanese government is committed to ensuring that, in this strategic moment, our Defence Force has the equipment, the capability, the people and the funding it needs to keep Australians safe. I thank every person who is serving in our Defence Force, both current and former, for their service.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have ended the underfunding, we have ended the chaos, and we have ended the dysfunction under the coalition and, through providing stability and continuity, are able to focus on the things that matter. This is also true in the Defence portfolio. The government began by undertaking foundational strategic thinking, including through the 2023 Defence Strategic Review and the National Defence Strategy. This approach, long overdue, has allowed us to properly assess our defence capability needs and then resource them. Following that review, we have increased defence funding to record levels. Just last month, the Albanese Labor government announced it will provide an additional $12 billion for the defence precinct at Henderson in my home state of Western Australia. This welcome investment builds on our increase in defence funding, which will now see an additional $70 billion invested in defence capabilities over the next decade, compared with the coalition's projections. The coalition talks a big game in defence, as it does in many policy areas; however, Labor just gets on and delivers.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In this term, delivery is fundamental to what we must achieve, and we have a laser focus on delivering the capabilities we do need to keep Australians safe. The Albanese government is committing to developing a world-class shipbuilding and sustainment precinct at Henderson in Western Australia. The establishment of a consolidated defence precinct at Henderson is the critical next step in delivering continuous naval shipbuilding in WA. This will support the programs for submarines and frigates and for vessels like the Guardian class patrol boat, which I was honoured to represent the minister in handing over to the government of Samoa in a ceremony in 2023 at HMAS <span style="font-style:italic;">Stirling</span>. As we announced last month, the Albanese government will provide the $12 billion towards delivering the defence precinct at Henderson, which is a significant downpayment.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This early commitment of funding will provide certainty to industry and will underpin the delivery of the construction of surface vessels for the Australian Defence Force, starting with the Army's landing craft and, pending successful consolidation, the domestic build element of Australia's future general-purpose frigates; facilities to support the sustainment of Australia's surface combatant vessels; contingency docking capabilities for Australia's future conventionally-armed nuclear-powered submarine fleet from the early 2030s; and depot-level maintenance, including graving docks. Over the next two decades, our government's plan will see tens of billions of dollars invested in defence capabilities in the west, supporting in the order of 10,000 well-paid, high-skilled jobs.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our government continues to invest in the capabilities our Defence Force needs now and into the future, of course, to meet those strategic circumstances. The Albanese government just announced the selection of the Japanese upgraded Mogami class frigate as the preferred platform for the Navy's future general-purpose frigate fleet, which is the most significant capability decision taken since the announcement of the AUKUS optimal pathway in 2023. The upgraded Mogami class frigate will also help shore up our maritime trade routes and Australia's northern approaches. Importantly, while the first three vessels will be built in Japan, the announcement is part of our commitment to continuous naval shipbuilding in WA; subject to the successful consolidation of the Henderson defence precinct, the remaining eight frigates will be built locally, in WA. This will, of course, involve important skills transfers and the development of local capacity, and no doubt an ongoing relationship between our industry and that of Japan.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese government is investing up to $8 billion to upgrade HMAS <span style="font-style:italic;">Stirling</span> and support the implementation of the Submarine Rotational Force-West, SRF-West, creating around 3,000 direct jobs. This investment includes wharf upgrades, operational maintenance and other infrastructure to support the increase in port visits by both UK and United States submarines as well as our own fleet. A further 500 direct jobs will also be related to the SRF-West over 2027-2032. I have another two pages to read, but I'm running out of time—there is just so much we are delivering on. So I will come to my question. Does the minister agree that the WA continuous naval shipbuilding program is an integral part of the government's plan for Defence?</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2131</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Steggall, Zali MP</name>
                <name.id>175696</name.id>
                <electorate>Warringah</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="175696" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms STEGGALL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Warringah</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:37</span>):  I start off by saying how disappointing it is to see that there has not been a minister here to hear the queries and concerns and actually respond, but I hope I'm proved wrong.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Climate disruption is not a distant environmental issue but an existential threat to our national and regional security. Our national security depends not just on traditional defence capabilities, on submarines and missiles, but increasingly on resilient communities, stable neighbours and shared regional strength. If we are to take national security seriously, we must integrate climate adaptation and resilience alongside traditional defence capabilities. Defence spending is rising rapidly, but that investment must be paired with equal ambition for adaptation to and prevention of the risks that climate disasters pose.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Pacific Islands Forum has been clear. Climate change is the single greatest threat to the livelihood, security and wellbeing of Pacific people. In the Pacific, entire communities are losing land to rising sea levels, coastal erosion and increasingly frequent and severe natural disasters. If our neighbours are overwhelmed by climate impacts, Australia's security is at risk too. We will face population displacement, disrupted supply chains, humanitarian crises, growing instability and challenges to law and order in our near region.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The 2023 Defence Strategic Review recognised climate change as a national security issue—by damaging critical infrastructure, stretching ADF capacity and amplifying instability in the Indo-Pacific. The AUKUS submarine program is forecast to cost up to $368 billion over 30 years, yet we are allocating only $1 billion over five years to the Disaster Ready Fund to strengthen the resilience of communities facing escalating natural disasters.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">According to the 2025-26 Defence portfolio budget statement, total defence resourcing sits at around $61.1 billion this year, with an additional $57.6 billion to be invested over the coming decade. We've also seen a further $25 billion committed to new shipbuilding facilities in Western Australia and more than $1.7 billion for a fleet of underwater drones. Meanwhile, national resilience funding remains so small it is ridiculous. Only $200 million will flow this financial year from the Disaster Ready Fund. For context, Cyclone Alfred alone is expected to cost the taxpayer $13.5 billion in disaster support and recovery. While we spend tens of billions on deterrence and weaponry, we spend only a fraction of that on preventing foreseeable harm. The economic case for action is clear. Every dollar spent on prevention saves at least $11 in disaster recovery.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We must also note that there is no new funding for the Defence Net Zero Strategy or Defence Future Energy Strategy, which are both essential if the ADF is to operate in a changing environment. The Australian Security Leaders Climate Group, made up of former senior defence, intelligence and foreign affairs officials, have warned that climate disruption is now the greatest and potentially most existential threat to Australian and global security. Given these realities, I would ask the Minister for Defence, if he were here: Will you commit to embedding climate risk as a core driver of the 2026 National Defence Strategy and to releasing a declassified version of the ONI report? Given defence resourcing sits at $61 billion this year and an extra $57.6 billion over the decade, what proportion of that funding will be dedicated to climate adaptation and resilience capabilities, including joint programs with Pacific partners? Finally, in light of the AUKUS program's projected $368 billion cost, what assurances can you provide that Australia will receive the promised submarine capability? When will we gain access to pillar II technology pathways, with clear pathways for Australian industry participation and technology sharing? Much was promised, nothing has been delivered and any request for detail is met with, 'Just simply, we do not know.' There is no information about pillar II and what actually will flow to Australian domestic sovereign capacity. In light of the Trump administration's 'America first' agenda, what contingencies are in place to safeguard Australia's access to pillar II technologies and those opportunities and protect our sovereign industrial capabilities? Why are there not further answers in light of the so significant amount of the Australian budget that is being spent on these programs?</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2132</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Clutterham, Claire MP</name>
                <name.id>316101</name.id>
                <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="316101" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CLUTTERHAM</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Sturt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:42</span>):  South Australia plays, and will continue to play, a critical role in Australia's defence manufacturing. Since the execution of the build contract in 1987 in relation to the six Collins class submarines, South Australia has proven itself to have the workforce, knowledge, infrastructure and competency to drive outcomes and deliver capability for this country. Fast forward almost 40 years and South Australia is now home to the Osborne Naval Shipyard, the Edinburgh Defence Precinct, Mawson Lakes and Lot Fourteen and will also be home to the Skills and Training Academy Campus, or STAC, out on the Lefevre Peninsula. The design and build of STAC will be supported by Australia's sovereign submarine build partners, BAE Systems and ASC Pty Ltd, to draw on the deep experience of our partners, ensuring training aligns with industry requirements.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I was incredibly proud to have attended the sod-turning ceremony for STAC at the start of this year when the Albanese Labor government confirmed its $480 million investment in that facility, which has now seen its first trainees and apprentices begin courses, under the tuition of industry experts. Further, more than 4,000 Commonwealth supported places have been allocated across 16 universities nationally for the Nuclear-Powered Submarine Student Pathways program, including 700 places at the University of Adelaide and 330 at Flinders University.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Osborne Naval Shipyard, where I spent many years of my pre-politics career, is Australia's premier naval construction facility. Critical capability is being developed and sustained at this location, providing meaningful, well-paid and sustainable employment for thousands of people. This critical capability includes the sustainment of the Royal Australian Navy's Collins class submarine, the life of which will be extended through LOTE as the infrastructure is ready, skills upgraded and workforce recruited to build the future nuclear-powered program for the build of the SSN-AUKUS class.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The site is also home to the Hunter Class Frigate Program, which delivers warships which advance operational technology and, importantly, strong deterrence capability to the Royal Australian Navy. Crucially, all six Hunter class frigates will be built at the Osborne shipyard, a further demonstration of this government's commitment to continuous naval shipbuilding and its commitment to South Australia as the right location to be the beating heart of this, an endeavour that I will always champion. At its peak, the Hunter Class Frigate Program is expected to support 3,000 direct jobs, with a supply chain supporting a further 5,000 indirect jobs. These workers will have the benefit of world-class infrastructure, including automated shipbuilding facilities and advanced welding technology.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In an era of rapid geopolitical change and uncertainty, a meaningful and genuine deterrence capability is critical. The CCSMs, LOTE and the Hunter class frigates are all essential components in Australia's deterrence strategy. And, given we are an island continent, the SSN-AUKUS class submarines will play an equally critical role. The workforce required for that build will almost exceed 10,000, with 4,000 workers employed to design and build the infrastructure for this submarine—again, at Osborne—and a further 4,000 to 5,500 direct shipyard jobs created to build these boats.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There can be no argument that this isn't one of the greatest industrial endeavours that Australia has ever undertaken, and South Australia will be at the heart of it. South Australia's involvement is not just limited to the marine environment; the Albanese government has partnered with the Malinauskas government to invest $200 million in the Deep Maintenance and Modification Facility, which—with the support of my former employer, Boeing Defence Australia—will bolster Australian sovereign defence capability and allow the Air Force's P-8A Poseidon and E-7A Wedgetail aircraft to undergo deeper maintenance in the one facility. This purpose built, four-bay aircraft hangar uses almost 2,000 tonnes of structural steel, more than half of which came from the Whyalla steelworks—again, based in South Australia.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This government has a laser-sharp focus on delivery, particularly with respect to the delivery of the deterrence capability that this country needs. Home of Australia's defence manufacturing and home to a world-class precinct that drives innovation and strategic defence projects, South Australia is a central player in this delivery.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Proposed expenditure agreed to.</span>
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            <title>Consideration in Detail</title>
            <page.no>2133</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Consideration in Detail</span>
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                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Foreign Affairs and Trade Portfolio</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Proposed expenditure, $4,927,454,000</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Hogan, Kevin MP</name>
                <name.id>218019</name.id>
                <electorate>Page</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr HOGAN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Page</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Manager of Opposition Business and Deputy Leader of the National Party</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:47</span>):  There are lots of challenges in the trade, investment and tourism space. It probably doesn't surprise you—it doesn't surprise me—that much of it is being mismanaged at the moment. One of the biggest challenges we have in the trade space at the moment is our relationship with the United States—obviously a strong ally, historically, with national security; obviously a very strong economic partner and also a trading partner with us. In fact, when the free trade agreement was signed with the United States 20 years ago, the coalition was in government.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the issues we have with this relationship—and the trading relationship has been damaged because of it—is that the Prime Minister has no relationship with the US president and doesn't seem to have an interest in forming one, which is very disappointing. Some 30 world leaders have had meetings with the US president. He was elected last November, so he's been in power for quite some time. Some 30 world leaders have met with the president, and some have got carve-outs for the deals that they need, especially for steel and aluminium. One must ask the question: have past remarks by the Australian prime minister and, indeed, the Australian ambassador to the United States, who's made some quite unfortunate remarks about the current US president—I don't think it has helped the relationship.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The result that we need, or one of the first results we need, from the Australian government, with a meeting, when they get the meeting with the US president—hopefully that will happen soon—has been set. The bar has been set. The UK Labour prime minister, indeed, Keir Starmer, has met with the US president a number of times and has, especially with steel and aluminium, secured a carve-out. That tariff was initially 50 per cent for them. The UK prime minister has got a carve-out, and the aluminium tariff for the UK is 25 per cent. That's the benchmark we need to judge that meeting by—that the Australian prime minister gets a physical meeting, makes it a priority, and has a KPI and a benchmark that he gets that tariff lowered for the Australian aluminium and steel workers. There are other issues. We know that with the pharmaceutical industries. We've had some things around the film industry. The Australian prime minister needs to make a very firm representation to the US president.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">On a positive note, the opposition obviously supports the Australian prime minister in his negotiation over there. There is bipartisan support that what the current US administration is doing is not a good policy. The US tariffs, I believe, are bad policy. The Australian government believes it is bad policy. We have supported the Australian government's response in some senses—that there aren't retaliatory efforts on the table. We're trying to say that the US tariff policy would damage US consumers, but it obviously also does damage to Australian exporters. So there is bipartisan support for that, but we're seeing a lack of will from the Australian prime minister. Indeed, I don't know what job the Australian ambassador to the US is doing, but he doesn't seem to be getting the results that we would like.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We wish the Prime Minister well. We need to negotiate that. We know one in four jobs in Australia are related to the export industry. We are a trading nation—$650 billion worth of goods and services were sold last year. I remind this chamber that over two-thirds of that comes from regional Australia. For everyone who is a city MP, I know you respect the fact that our farming and mining communities and industries are driving the wealth of this country. The royalties, the taxes and the revenue that we get from the coal, gas, iron ore and farming areas are almost unparalleled with the terms of trade for those things and are driving that. My question is: if the UK can secure a 25 per cent tariff rate on steel and aluminium, why hasn't the Prime Minister committed to getting the same deal and exemptions from these tariffs for us?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I will move on to the Export Market Develop Grants program. Round 4 was nothing short of a debacle. These grants obviously help our exporters. There were high ineligibility rates, a chaotic first-come first-served system and months of uncertainty. As the shadow minister, you do a lot of stakeholder engagement. I have spoken to a lot of very cranky exporters who applied for that. They tell me that the system is a debacle. The system crashed when people were trying to log on. It was first in, first served. They've had to go through months of waiting to see whether they got their funding or not. It's very disappointing. There's a lot of work to do there. I could go on. I know my time's going to run out, but there's a lot more to talk about with the mismanagement by this government.</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Wilkie</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  I give the call to the very patient member for Gellibrand.</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Hogan:</span>
                    </a>  You didn't say that to me, Deputy Speaker—bias!</span>
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                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Gellibrand</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:52</span>):  I was very pleased to be able to welcome the recent release of the Albanese government's reforms to the New Colombo Plan—</span>
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                    </a>  Deputy Speaker—very biased.</span>
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                    </a>  which I led consultations—</span>
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                    <a href="218019" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Hogan:</span>
                    </a>  Who would have thought the crossbench are biased?</span>
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                    </a>  Pull your head in!</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Wilkie</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Quite seriously, Member for Page, you should not reflect on the chair.</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr WATTS:</span>
                    </a>  I was very pleased to welcome the recent release of the Albanese government's reforms to the New Colombo Plan, which I led consultations on with an external advisory group in the last term of government. More than ever before Australia's future security and prosperity rely on our ability to make our way in our own region. Today Australia faces some of the most complex and consequential external circumstances at any time since the Second World War. The Indo-Pacific region is a region of opportunity, home to some of the fastest growing, most dynamic economies in the world, but it's also a region of intensifying geostrategic competition in which many of the fundamental assumptions underpinning our foreign policy are being challenged.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This challenging context will demand more of our leaders than ever before. It demands that Australia go deeper in developing our Asia capabilities, the bucket of skills and experience needed to be effective in our region—a useful level of language skills, knowledge of the histories and cultures of our region, and personal networks and practical experience in the region. This is the context for the review of the New Colombo Plan and the new direction for the NCP that the government has announced.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Since its inception a decade ago, the NCP has supported 55,000 Australian undergraduates to study and to undertake language training, internships, research and practicums at more than 2½ thousand institutions across our region. It's a worthy achievement, and, as building Australia's Indo-Pacific capability is a generational challenge, it's important that a program like this is supported by governments on both sides of politics. But, as it has evolved over the last 10 years, the NCP has lost its strategic focus. The vast majority—over 70 per cent, in fact—of the average 8,000 NCP participants per year have taken part in short-term mobility placements, generally of only two weeks and usually accompanied by Australian lecturer.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Despite regular requests, there was no data available to show that the short-term courses translated into students staying in the region longer term. Indeed, I recall one particular submission that cited a participant who was inspired by her two weeks in India to go on and study in Europe as showing the success of the program. It's not what the NCP was established to do.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The NCP was established to serve the foreign policy objectives of the Australian government. To meet our foreign policy objectives, we need the NCP to support pathways for participants to deepen Indo-Pacific capabilities in the long term. Two-week mobility programs just weren't delivering that. That's why we're shifting the focus of the NCP to enable students to spend more time in the region and to go deeper in developing their capabilities, particularly their language capabilities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the new tranche of reforms announced by the Foreign minister, we'll increase the number of NCP scholarships to 500 per year by 2028. We're introducing a new semester stream, leveraging Australian universities' partnership arrangements to support one- or two-semester-length experiences. We're focusing more on developing language skills, with targets for numbers of participants studying priority Asian languages in the NCP. We're extending funding eligibility to Australian universities to allow them to utilise groundbreaking transnational campuses they've established across the region. We're also encouraging institutions to work together to establish consortiums to give NCP students access to language study regardless of their university.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These reforms occur at a time of much larger challenge for our nation. They come at a critical time to support our universities to teach Asian languages, Asian studies and adjacent subjects, as enrolments in priority languages drop and universities scale down their offerings. Indeed, the decline has been precipitous. South-East Asian language learning fell by 75 per cent in Australian universities between 2004 and 2022.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The NCP reforms announced by the government can only deal with one slice of this national challenge. These reforms have been designed to support universities to keep offering the languages and Asian studies courses needed to build these capabilities by allowing universities to retain NCP funding directly. In this context, the University of Technology Sydney announced in August that it would pause the student intake of hundreds of courses until the second semester of 2026. This includes 33 combined international studies courses and 33 combined international studies honours courses. The UTS international studies program with a built-in year abroad at a university in the country of the student's major language is exactly the kind of program the reformed NCP is intended to support in the future. In this context, I want to personally appeal to UTS to explore how it could work with a reformed NCP offering in the future to retain this program. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WOOD</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">La Trobe</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:58</span>):  When it comes to the Pacific islands, the coalition is very much supportive of the government in its initiatives. But, in saying that, we must be very clear: our role is also to keep the government accountable when it comes to the spending of taxpayers' money.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That brings me to one of the greatest investments, an enormous $600 million in rugby league in the Pacific, creating an NRL franchise in PNG and dedicating $250 million to growing the league in countries like Fiji, Tonga and Samoa. The problem with that, though, is that, when it comes to Fiji, Tonga and Samoa, they are actually the heartland of rugby union, and now we're hearing that those countries are seeking funding to expand in the rugby union sector. I'd be very interested to hear from the minister whether Australia is now committing extra funding into rugby union. Then we have Nauru, where the prime game is Australian rules football. Pacific rugby officials and communities have voiced alarm that Australian funding threatens their national sporting culture. There is cannibalising and tightening of the rugby union pool. That's something that we're concerned about here in Australia, because we very much want to support Fiji, Tonga and Samoa. Like I said, $250 million is a lot of money to be injecting. We need to make sure, as it's taxpayers' money, that it's being carefully spent.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Then comes the Australia-Vanuatu Nakamal agreement. The Albanese Labor government's failure to sign the Nakamal agreement with Vanuatu, which now hangs in the balance, reveals the government's preference for making announcements over developing a comprehensive strategy to finalise the agreement. It's a $500 million agreement to help, and it covers the environmental issues of climate change, the economy and security, which is something that we, on this side of the chamber, support. But, in saying that, the government has been very brash about making special ceremonies for the agreement, but it actually hasn't gone ahead.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're disappointed to see the Nakamal agreement stalled and concerned about reports that there has been foreign interference to derail this agreement. The formal pacts are important, but making sure they are credible and backed by real action is vital. After months of negotiations and a symbolic initialling ceremony at Mount Yasur, the failure to secure the Nakamal agreement reflects a troubling lapse in diplomatic foresight. The Albanese government has billed this as a moment of renewal in Australia-Vanuatu relations. Instead, it exposes a gap between the rhetoric and the results.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We really need questions to be answered. Can the minister explain why the Labor government failed to finalise and sign the Nakamal agreement with Vanuatu? How does the government reconcile its stated commitment to regional cooperation with Pacific with its failure to formalise the agreement? Can the minister outline the consultation process undertaken with Vanuatu prior to their decision not to sign the agreement? Does the minister acknowledge that Australia's failure to sign the Nakamal agreement may create a vacuum for other powers to deepen their influence in Vanuatu? What steps is the government taking to reassure Pacific neighbours that Australia remains a reliable and respectful partner? Was the government aware of Vanuatu's intention to sign a policing MOU with China prior to the Prime Minister's visit? Does the minister acknowledge Vanuatu's decision to formalise policy agreements with China while leaving the Nakamal agreement unsigned signals a shift in regional sentiment? Vanuatu media reported that the total of equipment donations from China was worth around $700,000, which is a fraction of the amount Australia gives to Vanuatu for security.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We, on this side of the chamber, just need answers. That's our role as the coalition. We very much support the government's endeavours in the Pacific region, such as the Pacific banking agreement. But, in saying that, we need to make sure the local banking on the island is not impacted, especially when it comes to dealings with locals. We need to make sure the government works with those local banking agencies. The Pacific is a very important region. I know the minister for the Pacific islands is doing his utmost, but we, on this side, need answers to make sure we are accountable for taxpayers' money.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2135</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Ryan, Joanne MP</name>
                <name.id>249224</name.id>
                <electorate>Lalor</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="249224" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms RYAN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lalor</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Chief Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:03</span>):  I rise to speak about the Pacific diaspora in our nation and in my electorate of Lalor and the people-to-people relationships they create for us with our friendships and place in the Pacific. In Wyndham, we are proud to be home to the second-largest Pasifika population in Victoria, with more than 10,000 Pacific Islanders across the local government area. In Lalor and in Gellibrand, the Pacific is not foreign policy; it's family.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I've seen firsthand the vibrancy of this community—its music and church on Sundays, its youth groups, sports clubs and cultural festivals on the weekends. It's the voices and energy of young people proud of who they are and determined to shape their future. For example, at the Grange P-12 College, that pride is on full display. Their Sports Science Academy is thriving, driven in no small part by the engagement of Pacific Islander families. It's building more than athletes; it's building confidence, discipline and aspiration. Local sisters Uneeq and Beyonce Palavi, former students of Grange's Sports Science Academy and proud Tongan Australians, recently represented Tonga at the PacificAus Sports netball series. They are not just athletes; they are cultural ambassadors and an inspiration to young people across Lalor and beyond.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is why the Albanese government is investing in PacificAus Sports, supporting both grassroots and elite participation. I know firsthand some of the results from the PacificAus Sports program. They bring people joy in the streets of my community. We know that sport changes lives. In Fiji, women's rugby has surged from 18 to over 80 teams. In PNG, a country with over 800 languages, the dream of a national NRL team is uniting the nation. In my community, in Wyndham, clubs like the Werribee Bears and Wyndham Rhinos do more than host games. They build belonging for my Pasifika communities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese government understands that real Pacific engagement begins with people. That's why we've expanded the Pacific Australia Labour Mobility scheme—the PALM scheme, as it's known—with over 30,000 Pacific workers now contributing to industries across regional Australia. These workers are helping to fill critical labour shortages, especially in agriculture, aged care and hospitality.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Just last month I visited Fresh Select in Werribee South, one of Australia's largest lettuce and brassica growers, with the Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry, Julie Collins. There we met PALM workers from Vanuatu. What I saw wasn't just a workforce. It was a relationship—a deep and personal link between our countries, built on trust, contribution and mutual respect.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These workers don't just support local businesses. They support families back home. On average long-term PALM workers send home up to $15,000 a year in remittances, money that helps to raise children, fund education and strengthen Pacific communities. Seasonal workers remit around $1,000 a month. That's why Labor also took action to protect Pacific banking access when commercial banks threatened to cut off key services. What may seem like a technical policy issue in Canberra has very real impacts in places like Wyndham, Apia and Suva, where families rely on safe and affordable ways to send money home. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But we're not stopping there. Over the next four years 1,500 Pacific workers will complete formal Australian qualifications, including in sectors like aged care, construction and hospitality. That's how we deliver not just jobs but skills, dignity and long-term opportunity.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the Pacific, stronger relationships are built on respect, trust and time—not just words but action. That's how this government is engaging with the region, and that's how we're working with the Pasifika communities here at home, in Lalor and across the country. We're not just building policy; we're building partnerships. And in communities like mine we're already seeing results.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm proud to represent this community and proud to be part of a government that is delivering real outcomes for Pasifika communities here and for our neighbours across the blue Pacific. I just want to give a shout-out to a group of Pasifika women in my community who have established themselves as a co-op, if you like. They have had input into policy ideas in our work in DFAT for years now—a quick text, because they've all been together and said, 'You know, there's a lack of emergency services training for Pasifika.' It's these things that bring these countries together. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2136</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Rebello, Leon MP</name>
                <name.id>316547</name.id>
                <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="316547" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr REBELLO</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McPherson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:08</span>):  There was a time when Australia's voice on the world stage was steady and clear. We stood for peace built on strength, principle, mateship with our allies, and decency towards those who shared our values. Today that voice has grown uncertain, and our nation feels smaller for it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Across the world, the lights of democracy are flickering. A terrorist movement slaughters innocents in the Middle East, an autocrat wages a brutal war in Europe, and in the Pacific our region grows more contested by the day. And when clarity is needed most Australia's foreign policy has lost its compass.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It began with the decision that defied reason and betrayed principle. In recognising a Palestinian state outside a proper peace process, the Albanese government broke a longstanding bipartisan position grounded in common sense: recognition must follow peace, not precede it. And who celebrated this decision? Hamas, a listed terrorist organisation responsible for the horrors of 7 October, including the murder, rape and kidnapping of men, women and children.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The fact that Australia's foreign policy is being applauded by terrorists is a damning indictment of the government's judgement. Did the Prime Minister consider how such a move would embolden extremists and undermine peace? While our allies work to end the war and secure the release of hostages, the Prime Minister drew moral equivalence between a democracy defending itself and a terror movement sworn to its destruction. Did the Foreign minister consult our allies before breaking with decades of bipartisan wisdom? We all want the suffering in Gaza to end, but peace cannot be built on the foundation of terror.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Meanwhile, our most important alliance, with the United States, drifts like a ship without a captain. For nearly a year the Prime Minister could not secure a substantive meeting with the president. What did we get instead? A selfie. No plan, no policy, no progress. I ask: what message does it send when our closest ally cannot find a moment for the Australian prime minister?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">While the cameras flashed, Australian industries were left to fend for themselves against tariffs on pharmaceuticals, copper and film. And when it came to Iran, the government's delay was dangerous. The coalition-led Senate committee warned in early 2023 to list the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organisation. Why did the government ignore that warning, and how many Australians were put at risk in the meantime? Only after threats intensified and antisemitic violence spread did they act. They did the right thing, but far too late. In matters of national security, hesitation is not caution; it's weakness.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And then there's Russia. While Putin wages his brutal war on Ukraine, Australians unknowingly fill their cars with fuel refined from Russian crude—$3.7 billion worth, generating over $2 billion in tax revenue for the Kremlin's war machine. How could this government allow such a loophole? This disgraceful oversight saw Australian consumers unwittingly help bankroll aggression against a sovereign democracy, every litre a blow against the free world and this government's delay a stain on our moral clarity.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our relationship with China must be one of strength—firm, respectful and clear eyed. Yet, when a former Albanese aligned Labor premier attended a Chinese Communist Party military parade, standing alongside Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un, this government said nothing. Why the silence? Did the government or the PM warn Mr Andrews not to attend?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">China is a vital partner but also a strategic competitor. With Chinese military activity increasing near our shores, why has the government said nothing? Why hasn't there been a statement of reassurance to the Australian people or to our Pacific partners? When your allies see hesitation, they question your conviction. And when your adversaries see hesitation, they test it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The story of this government's foreign policy is not one of strategy or strength. It's a story of drift, confusion, delay and misplaced priorities. At every turn, they have chosen symbolism over substance and weakness over principle. And so I ask: when will Labor place Australia's interest at the heart of our foreign policy?</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2137</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Jarrett, Madonna MP</name>
                <name.id>298574</name.id>
                <electorate>Brisbane</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="298574" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms JARRETT</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Brisbane</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:13</span>):  I rise to speak in support of the appropriations bill, with a focus on our Pacific partnership. It's an important part of this bill, and we are building our relationships with our closest neighbours—or should I say rebuilding our relationships. As part of the Pacific family, we are embracing the opportunities to build closer ties across the region, which will bring economic and social benefit to all of us, including in my community in Brisbane.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Pacific countries look to Australia as a key partner in the region that supports local and regional security, economic development and disaster assistance. Our Pacific family also looks to Australia as a climate leader and wants to collaborate with us to build renewables, batteries and resilient communities for the future. They also look to Australia as a sporting mate and an ally that is home to the greatest NRL team, the Brisbane Broncos!</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I commend the Albanese government's approach, which once again returns Australia as a key partner in the region—a partner that listens and respects our neighbours. We know the opposition's failure to acknowledge climate change, a top priority for the Pacific, hamstrung Australia's ability to develop genuine and long-lasting relationships.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When it comes to climate change and leadership, the Albanese government is taking real action at home to reduce our own emissions. We've got a target of 82 per cent renewables in our grid by 2030, and recently renewable energy surpassed fossil fuel based energy across the main national grid. There are more than 78,000 home batteries that can store solar power, with more in the pipeline, and this is the result of strategic and targeted action to reduce emissions here in Australia.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We also recognise our responsibility to support our neighbours to reduce their emissions, and our efforts mean we can be the partner of choice for those who live next door. Australia is delivering a record aid flow to the Pacific, which will help build the renewables, storage batteries and resilient communities across the region. Australia is supporting access to climate finance, with a $100 million contribution to the Pacific Resilience Facility. This Pacific led community resilience financing facility will provide grants for climate action, disaster preparedness, nature based solutions and projects which respond to loss and damage. All this helps support a peaceful, stable and resilient region.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia is also helping countries access more climate financing by embedding local climate finance experts in partnerships with the Climate Finance Access Network. This will benefit partner countries, including Fiji, Vanuatu, Samoa, Tuvalu, Solomon Islands and Tonga. We are also supporting the Pacific's transition away from fossil fuels and building a clean energy future. The Albanese government is contributing over $350 million in climate infrastructure through the Pacific Climate Infrastructure Financing Partnership. Early projects include the Off-Grid Renewable Energy Partnerships program, which has already announced its first two partnerships—one with PNG and the other with Solomon Islands. This clean energy will help people in remote and rural communities access solar energy and associated lighting. It doesn't just mean clean energy, though. It will create jobs, generate income and help support important healthcare services.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia and Papua New Guinea have also announced almost $227 million in the energy financing partnership, which will rehabilitate the Ramu 1 hydropower plant to boost renewable energy for Papua New Guinea. My community of Brisbane and wider Queensland has a deep cultural and historical connection with our nearest neighbour, Papua New Guinea. In the 2021 census, more than 17,000 Queenslanders said they were born in the country. The Albanese government has achieved landmark progress to secure a shared future with PNG not only on renewables but also through sport and security. Over the past 50 years, our countries have continued to share our deep love of sport, especially the great game of NRL. Like many of you, I am incredibly proud of the Brisbane Broncos—the men's and women's teams, who won those titles this year. I'm sure there were many in Papua New Guinea watching and listening, as we did in Brisbane over the weekend. NRL is the most popular sport in PNG, and diehard fans have waited a long time for PNG to field a new NRL team. The two governments have worked together with the Rugby League Commission to deepen our connections in supporting such a team, and our partnership will create new opportunities for girls and women in rugby across PNG and the Pacific. Australia supports a strong and unified Pacific family through its work collaboratively to address— <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2138</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Watson-Brown, Elizabeth MP</name>
                <name.id>300127</name.id>
                <electorate>Ryan</electorate>
                <party>AG</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="300127" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms WATSON-BROWN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Ryan</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:18</span>):  I want to acknowledge that we're here today on the second anniversary of the October 7 attacks, an atrocity and a war crime that the Greens and I roundly condemn. We continue to call for peace and for an end to the cycle of violence that both predates and has intensified since October 7.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I have some questions I'd like to ask today of the Minister representing the Minister for Foreign Affairs and the Minister representing the Minister for Trade and Tourism. Surya McEwen, Abubakir Rafiq, Hamish Paterson, Juliet Lamont, Bianca Webb-Pullman and Cameron Tribe are heroic Australians, kidnapped and abused by Israel. Their crime? Delivering food and medical supplies to Gazans who are being deliberately starved and murdered by Israel. These Australians have been subjected to horrific abuse by the Israeli authorities. Reports are that Surya McEwen has been left with a dislocated arm and an injured head, was subjected to sleep deprivation and had his passport destroyed; that Juliet Lamont has had her medication confiscated, putting her at serious risk of a stroke, and was sprayed with a water cannon and left for seven hours in an unventilated area in soaking clothes with hands tied; and that detainees have had clean water withheld from them.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government should be doing everything in its power to protect and support these Australian citizens. I ask the minister to urgently provide an update on the wellbeing of these Australians. Minister, how can you justify continuing to regard Israel as a friend and an ally when this is how they treat innocent Australian citizens? How can you continue to approve export permits of weapons parts sent directly to Israel, directly contributing to the genocide in Gaza?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia is a party to the genocide convention. That means that we've agreed that we will act to prevent genocide. A definitive ICJ ruling that a genocide is taking place in Gaza could take until 2027, but what we do have is a ruling that it is plausible that genocide is occurring. It's been called a genocide by an absolute wealth of international organisations, including the organisation of genocide scholars, Amnesty International, Israeli human rights group B'Tselem and an independent UN commission of inquiry, just to name a few. There have been at least 68 shipments of F-35 joint strike fighter aircraft parts flown from Australia directly to Israel between October 2023 and September 2025. The simple fact is that, without Australia's contribution, the F-35s would not be able to drop bombs on innocent Palestinians in Gaza. Minister, when will you acknowledge our obligation under the convention to take immediate action to prevent the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza? Will you wait till the genocide is complete, when it will be too late to do what we should have been doing under the convention—that is, everything in our power to stop the mass slaughter?</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">While we're on foreign affairs, I also want to talk about Australia's relationship with the US and some really concerning reports we heard last week. Does this government really want to give Donald Trump control over our renewables transition? Just last week, the <span style="font-style:italic;">AFR</span> reported that, after courting earlier this year by the Albanese government, the Trump administration is now strongly considering taking an equity stake in Australian critical minerals—critical minerals that are absolutely vital for Australia's and the whole world's transition away from fossil fuels. Last year, Australia cracked down on Chinese investments in our critical minerals to protect our national interest. So why are we courting the highly volatile US government to take an equity stake in critical minerals, selling our wealth, one of our most valuable assets, to the US government? How is that in Australia's national interest?</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Trump recently called climate change 'the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world'. Is this really who we want controlling what happens to our rare earth minerals, which are so critical for the energy transition? He's already cancelling renewables projects all over the US. This is a position fundamentally opposed to the interests of everyday Australians and the planet. The Labor government have already shown that they're willing to do pretty much anything the US wants. They're giving them billions in payments for AUKUS, building public housing for US troops and defence contractors and hosting their nuclear armed subs in Perth. Giving up even more control over our sovereign assets is nothing less than insane. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>2139</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Aly, Anne MP</name>
                <name.id>13050</name.id>
                <electorate>Cowan</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="13050" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr ALY</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Cowan</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Small Business, Minister for International Development and Minister for Multicultural Affairs</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:23</span>):  This year's budget will strengthen our global influence, contribute to a more equitable and peaceful region, deepen our engagement with partners and build our economic resilience through enhanced trade diversification. I don't need to remind anyone that we find ourselves navigating a uniquely challenging global environment. It is a more uncertain and certainly unpredictable world. It is a world where the rules based framework, which once provided clarity and order and which has helped to safeguard Australia's security and prosperity, is now under unprecedented challenge or, increasingly, ignored. It is a world where conflict is rising with corresponding devastating consequences for civilians, with the risk of spillover across borders, continents and oceans.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Two years on from the Hamas terrorist attacks on 7 October, Australia remembers the 1,200 Israelis and foreigners brutally murdered by Hamas. We reiterate our unequivocal condemnation of Hamas's horrific actions on October 7 and all its other acts of terror, and we call for the immediate release of all hostages. Right now, the situation in Gaza remains catastrophic. Since this conflict began, Australia has committed over $130 million in humanitarian assistance to support civilians in Gaza and Lebanon, and we are part of the international push for aid to flow unimpeded. We urge all parties to make every effort to bring this terrible conflict to an immediate end, and we welcome President Trump's plan to bring peace to Gaza.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese Labor government recognises that in these uncertain, unpredictable and challenging times we must do our part to shape the future we want, and this budget ensures that we can. Our government is rebuilding Australia's international credibility after a decade of budget cuts to our development program under the previous government. Our government is strengthening Australia's relationship with partners in our region after a decade of dismissive attitudes under the previous government. Our government is restoring our diplomatic capability by investing in our people, our systems and our infrastructure because our nation's frontline is our diplomacy.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This budget has made deliberate and disciplined choices to focus our efforts on what matters most to Australia's future—our region, the Indo-Pacific. In an increasingly contested global environment, our development program is an integral part of our nation's statecraft. At a time where other donors are tightening their budgets, the Labor government here will not abandon our responsibility to shape the peaceful, stable and prosperous region we want.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is why the budget delivers a record $5.97 billion in official development assistance this year. We have repositioned our development program to where Australia's national interests are most at stake and to where we have the greatest impact—the Pacific and South-East Asia. We now dedicate 75c of every Australian development dollar to our region, the highest share in four decades.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">While we're working to keep Australia more secure as the world becomes more uncertain and unstable, our support for Australians overseas is also increasingly critical. This enables us to continue to deliver high-quality consular services to Australians around the world and to help Australians safely leave crisis situations.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The 2025-26 budget equips Australia to respond to the regional and global challenges ahead of us in a way that remains true to who we are, true to what we want and true to what we believe in: a democratic nation where every person's dignity and freedom is respected and protected by law; an independent country with the power to decide our own future, free from coercion and interference; and a partner of choice that can be relied upon to be there during a time of disruption and for the long haul.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Miller-Frost, Louise MP</name>
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                <electorate>Boothby</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms MILLER-FROST</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Boothby</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:27</span>):  This government is putting significant effort into being the preferred partner in our region. When we came to government in 2022, we inherited a situation where the Pacific region had been largely ignored and where the concerns of the region and the existential threat of climate change were not only ignored but also mocked by the previous government. Yet our relationships with our neighbours in the Pacific and Asia are vital for our security and pose significant opportunities. Nature abhors a vacuum, and, when the previous government vacated the Pacific, it gave opportunities for other countries to fill that void. After the 2025 election, there was significant work to be done by our government to rebuild our relationships with our neighbours and to demonstrate again that we could be a trusted and valued partner, to demonstrate that we care about the things that they care about and that we take our shared future seriously.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia's international development policy guides how Australia works with partners to advance a peaceful, stable and prosperous future for our region, ensuring the program is responsive to today's complex and interconnected challenges. As profound global challenges reshape our world, development needs across the Indo-Pacific and beyond are intensifying. Australia stands with its partners. Development assistance is a key pillar of Australia's statecraft alongside diplomacy, trade and defence, working to advance our interests in a fairer, safer and more secure world.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In 2025-26, Australia will deliver over $5 billion in official development assistance, an increase of $135.8 million on 2024-25. This reflects the government's commitment to a strategic, regionally focused and resilient development program to build prosperity in the region. In a time of global instability, Australia is repositioning its development program to where our national interests are most at stake. Three quarters of Australia's total ODA will directly benefit the Indo-Pacific, the highest share in four decades. This budget makes deliberate and disciplined choices to direct more support where it has the greatest impact—economic resilience, health systems, climate action and humanitarian assistance. Australia's development program has been rebuilt and refocused to be more responsive, targeted and effective, ensuring it delivers results for our region and advances Australia's long-term interests.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia's development investments are focused on delivering targeted, high-impact investments to support our region's economic and health resilience, climate action and humanitarian need. A new economic resilience package to be delivered over five years will support workforce skills, financial systems, job creation, small finance and economic reform in the Pacific and South-East Asia. The government will also guarantee Australian bank presence in the Pacific and Timor-Leste for the next 10 years. These measures complement and reinforce Australia's major investments in critical infrastructure and digital transformation, driving trade and economic stability. A new three-year health resilience package will strengthen health systems and pandemic preparedness in the Pacific and South-East Asia. This investment will help nations to prevent, detect and respond to disease outbreaks while maintaining essential services for HIV, tuberculosis, maternal and child health, family planning and sexual and reproductive health.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">By addressing urgent needs now, this package strengthens regional preparedness, ensuring our partners are better equipped to manage future health challenges. Our new $100 million Australia-Indonesia health partnership will be delivered over eight years, focused on human and animal health security, emergency response capacity and health system resilience. Importantly, there is also a $355 million climate action package over four years to help the Pacific and South-East Asian communities withstand climate related shocks, because we know that sea-level rises and stronger and more frequent storms are not a laughing matter.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia is part of the Pacific and South-East Asian regions. They are our neighbours, and we are theirs. We want to be the preferred partner of choice. We want to play our part. The treaty signed by the Prime Minister with our nearest neighbour, Papua New Guinea, demonstrates how important this region is to us, and our overseas development strategies and funding build on this focus.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Proposed expenditure agreed to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Federation Chamber adjourned at 19:33</span>
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