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            <a href="Chamber" type="">Tuesday, 13 October 2026</a>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">The SPEAKER (</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Hon.</span>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Milton Dick</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">) </span>took the chair at 12:00, made an acknowledgement of country and read prayers.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Ryan, Joanne MP</name>
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                <electorate>Lalor</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms RYAN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lalor</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Chief Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:01</span>):  I declare that, unless otherwise ordered, the Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Register Levy) Amendment Bill 2026 and the Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026 stand referred to the Federation Chamber for further consideration at the adjournment of the debate on the motion for the second reading of each bill.</span>
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                    </a>  I will call the member for Goldstein, but I understand he may want to hold something up during his contribution. I ask him not to use any props.</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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              <name role="metadata">Wilson, Tim MP</name>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TIM WILSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Goldstein</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:01</span>):  I move:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent the Member for Goldstein from introducing the Taxation Administration Amendment (Reinstating Credit Card Payments) Bill 2026 immediately.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We have a farce at the heart of this country right now where the government does not know in what direction it is heading. It turns around and says to the Australian community that it's going to introduce a credit card surcharge ban. We then have a real and human impact, particularly for those who own small businesses, who say there's a cost to them. We have travel agents highlighting the huge cost and the disruption it is going to cause to their small businesses. We have independent schools saying they can no longer accept credit card payments as a consequence of the government's decision. Childcare operators are following suit. And the government's response at every point is to turn around and tell the small businesses of this country: 'You must absorb this cost. You have to take on higher costs at a time of declining profitability, record insolvencies and record numbers of small businesses closing the door.' There is no empathy from this government. They have no interest in the impact their decisions are having on the small-business community of the nation. I'm going to come back to that, Speaker—because it's not a prop. It's called a copy of the <span style="font-style:italic;">Australian Financial Review</span>, and it shows the cascading series of errors that have flowed.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">What is even more extraordinary, now that we know exactly what the impact of the government's surcharge ban is, is that there is absolutely no clarity from the government about what is going to happen next. And then the Australian Taxation Office comes along and says: 'Hold our surcharge beer. We are going to introduce a ban on credit cards for Australians who pay their tax liabilities that way'—as is lawful and as many Australians, particularly small businesses, currently do to manage temporary issues around cash flow and as a form of interest-free overdraft. It applies particularly to the tradies, the sparkies and the chippies of the nation.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralInterjecting">An opposition member:</span>  Plumbers.</span>
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                  <a href="IMW" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr TIM WILSON:</span>
                  </a>  And plumbers. The Australian Taxation Office says: 'We're not going to absorb this additional cost that the government is expecting from hundreds of thousands of small businesses across the country. We're not going to do that, so we're just going to ban the payment method.' And they did it with eight hours notice. I do not know if I have ever seen a government decision that has been so incompetently administered as this credit card ban by the ATO. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But wait! You just needed to wait and see how the government responded. At first, everyone was backing it. The member for Parramatta was saying: 'No, we support the government's decision. We'd back it in 100 per cent of the way, and the ATO's right on this.' Then, all of a sudden, I think it was the Minister for Housing who turned around and said: 'Actually, we're quite concerned about this. This isn't going to end well.' Maybe she was hearing from some of the chippies who help build houses or finish them. She claims she had a background in small business, so she had some appreciation of this mysterious thing for the Albanese government that they call cash flow. Then, of course, we had—we've had so many different ones!—the Minister for Small Business. When she finally figured out there was a surcharge ban—trust me, we'll return to that one, too—and there was this credit card ban implemented, she also raised some concerns.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But don't worry. The Minister for Foreign Affairs, when she was asked about it, said, 'We'd like to do something, but we don't have the power.'</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Opposition members interjecting</span>—</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr TIM WILSON:</span>
                  </a>  I accept the audible gasps from the members behind me! If it weren't so absurd, on something so serious, it would be laughable. The government was out there, remember? The Prime Minister was out there with a picture of his credit card on his social media, talking about how they'd implemented this ban and they had something to be proud of. They really wanted to own the decision until they realised the consequences and they turned around and said: 'Oh, we can't fix this now. We take ownership of it, but we can't actually fix it.' </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">So the Minister for Foreign Affairs says that the government has no power to correct it. Well, the Leader of the Opposition and we on the opposition benches decided, 'If you don't have the power to fix it, we'll give you the power to fix it.' Then, presto! All of a sudden, the Treasurer was able to! He was the action man coming out and saying, 'I'm going to extend Australians being able to pay bills to the Australian Taxation Office by credit card for another 12 months.' This mysterious power they didn't have—they didn't have the levers to advance the interests of Australian small business—like presto, it suddenly appeared. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Considering their history and the deceit and dishonesty that this government has consistently tried to get away with, this is another changed position. We've seen so many of these examples, like saying 50 times before the election they were not going to introduce higher and more taxes on small business, and then getting elected and doing so. They didn't have the power to overturn the ATO credit card ban. Now they do.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We're just going to remove doubt for all time by simply making an amendment to the relevant legislation to confirm and to absolve the concerns of the Minister for Foreign Affairs and, of course, all the other members on the other side of this chamber present, that indeed the Treasurer does have the power and that the ATO will have the capacity to accept tax bills through credit card payments. We will make sure that, where Australians have to pay tax to an entity that has a legal monopoly, they actually are able to use different payment methods—you know, kind of like small businesses have to do. What we simply want is to make sure that, if you're a small business and you're part of the economy and you're paying your tax, you're able to do it on terms that work for you. Whether it's your GST, whether it's the PAYG, whether it's withholding or whether it's income tax, or whatever mechanism it is, you can decide how best to manage your cash flow, and the government doesn't make the decision for you.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There are so many small businesses right now across this country that are struggling to stay alive. They're looking for cash flow. Their revenue is down. As I said before, we have record insolvencies and plenty more just closing the door. Many businesses have profitability margins of one or two per cent. And, despite what the Minister for Small Business says, it isn't because 'maybe they're dodgy'; it's actually because this government has created economic conditions which have made it hard for them to survive. We saw in the last federal budget that the answer from the Albanese government from on high was to turn around and say: 'We've got a solution to your crisis of confidence. We've got a solution to the problems of declining revenue and collapsing consumer and small-business confidence. We're going to chuck more taxes on the small businesses of this country.'</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This isn't just an attack on small business, to be clear; this is an attack on community, because small business is the lifeblood of community. They are the first people to give a young Australian a job and a foothold on the ladder of economic opportunity. The Labor Party used to claim they believed in that. They clearly don't believe in it any more. They're also the first commercial entity that goes along and donates to and supports local footy clubs, local cricket clubs and local netball clubs. They're the first to give a hand out and back them in. We're going to back them in. We're going to make sure that there's a full pathway for the consequences of this government's surcharge ban, that people actually have accountability within the government, and that they can then be called to account.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We need a government that takes responsibility because what we've seen successively, particularly under this Treasurer, is that the government doesn't seem to have any idea of the consequences of the decisions that they're making. This is no longer an opinion; you just need to read John Kehoe's article in the <span style="font-style:italic;">Australian Financial Review</span> today: 'According to government sources, some senior members were not aware that shares, businesses and other assets would be captured until the day' that their new tax was introduced from their budget. The government had no idea what was going on. We know full well that we had continual problems where the government's only answer has been politics. One source said:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">I don't think there's so much a failure of policy, but a failure of politics.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Well, I've got news for you. When you think about everything through the lens of politics and not the lens of policy, you're putting Australians last. That's the problem.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I didn't even get to the Minister for Small Business. We have the incompetent being led by the blind. Yesterday she confirmed she didn't even know that this ban was coming into place. This is the problem, and that's why this legislation must pass.</span>
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Is the motion seconded?</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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              <page.no>3</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Bell, Angie MP</name>
              <name.id>282981</name.id>
              <electorate>Moncrieff</electorate>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moncrieff</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:12</span>):  I second the motion. I feel compelled by my community of small business on the Gold Coast. There are over 80,000 of them on the Gold Coast alone that employ locals, that support community, that are getting thwacked over the head yet again by this god-awful Labor government who is assaulting their aspiration. Small businesses around the country are aghast at this measure. I absolutely wholeheartedly support the member for Goldstein with this motion because the small-business minister from the other side of the chamber has absolutely no idea about what it is that small businesses need.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Yesterday she was flailing around in the dark like all of those small businesses who have gone broke under Labor's watch. She was flailing away in the dark in question time. She didn't have the answers to whether it was the ATO or whether it was the RBA that made this decision. When she found out, she didn't know the answers to the most basic questions about small business. I'm sure that the minister has never, not once, filled in the forms—does she even know what the forms are called?—that you have to fill in every month or perhaps every quarter if you're a small business. She has no idea what it takes to open a small or family business.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This change that Labor don't know about, apparently, is going to create cash flow restraints. For those who don't understand Business 101, in the first lecture when you're studying business, when you're doing a business degree, the first rule of business is to make money. You've got to make money, Minister. Part of making money is having enough cash flow to be able to pay your suppliers, because if you don't pay your suppliers, you don't get your stock, and if you don't have your stock, you can't sell it to your consumers and you can't make money—again, the first rule of business. So my message to the Minister for Small Business is clear. You cannot take away every single lever that small business has, including the ability to pay your bill on your credit card through the ATO. You cannot take away every single lever that small business has to make money.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Why does small business have to make money? It's pretty simple. It's livelihoods. It's Australian livelihoods. Thirty small businesses a day—30 small businesses every single day—are going broke under this woeful government and under this woeful small-business minister. I ask the government to stop punishing small business. There is a limit to how much tax small and family businesses can pay. You are sending them broke. I have small businesses all around me all the time. I come from small business. I can tell you that when a bakery owner is telling me his revenue has gone down by 30 per cent and his costs have gone up by 30 per cent, he is falling into my arms, crying his eyes out, because he knows he is going to have to sack everybody in his organisation and close up shop. That is under this small-business minister's watch and under this Prime Minister's watch. I have coffee shops telling me that they actually make money on a public holiday. They make money when they close. It is ridiculous. All of those people who work in small and family businesses need to work. If coffee shops close on a public holiday because penalty rates are too high and electricity costs are too high, and now because they have no cash flow to pay their suppliers, they can't order coffee beans—what is this government thinking?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is a small-business minister with zero experience, as outlined by her backbench. By her own backbenchers' admissions, she has no experience whatsoever in small business. Shame on this Labor government. They need to be backing in small business. They need to stop this credit card ban and allow small and family businesses to have the cash flow that they need to make money. The first rule of business: make money so you can employ Australians; make money so you can employ families across the Gold Coast and across the entire country. We're talking about millions and millions of Australians who are employed by small business. This minister and this Prime Minister should be absolutely shamed and stoned in the square.</span>
              </p>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>3</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Rae, Sam MP</name>
              <name.id>300122</name.id>
              <electorate>Hawke</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300122" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr RAE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hawke</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Aged Care and Seniors</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:17</span>):  I move:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That the debate be adjourned.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The question is that the debate be adjourned. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>3</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </speech>
        <division>
          <division.header>
            <body>
              <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [12:21] <br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick) </p>
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          </division.header>
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            <ayes>
              <num.votes>88</num.votes>
              <title>AYES</title>
              <names>
                <name>Abdo, B. J.</name>
                <name>Aly, A.</name>
                <name>Ambihaipahar, A.</name>
                <name>Belyea, J. A.</name>
                <name>Berry, C. G.</name>
                <name>Bowen, C. E.</name>
                <name>Briskey, J. L.</name>
                <name>Burke, A. S.</name>
                <name>Burnell, M. P.</name>
                <name>Burns, J.</name>
                <name>Byrnes, A. J.</name>
                <name>Campbell, J. P.</name>
                <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
                <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                <name>Clare, J. D.</name>
                <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
                <name>Clutterham, C. L.</name>
                <name>Coffey, R. K.</name>
                <name>Coker, E. A.</name>
                <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                <name>Comer, E. L.</name>
                <name>Conroy, P. M.</name>
                <name>Cook, K. M. G.</name>
                <name>Cook, P. A.</name>
                <name>Doyle, M. J. J.</name>
                <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                <name>Fernando, C. J.</name>
                <name>France, A. A.</name>
                <name>Freelander, M. R.</name>
                <name>French, T. A.</name>
                <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                <name>Giles, A. J.</name>
                <name>Gorman, P. P.</name>
                <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
                <name>Gregg, M. J.</name>
                <name>Hill, J. C.</name>
                <name>Holzberger, R. A. V.</name>
                <name>Husic, E. N.</name>
                <name>Jarrett, M. L.</name>
                <name>Jordan-Baird, M. A. M.</name>
                <name>Kearney, G. M.</name>
                <name>Keogh, M. J.</name>
                <name>Khalil, P.</name>
                <name>King, C. F.</name>
                <name>King, M. M. H.</name>
                <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                <name>Lim, S. B. C.</name>
                <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
                <name>McBain, K. L.</name>
                <name>Miller-Frost, L. J.</name>
                <name>Mitchell, R. G.</name>
                <name>Moncrieff, D. S.</name>
                <name>Mulino, D.</name>
                <name>Neumann, S. K.</name>
                <name>Ng, G. J.</name>
                <name>O'Neil, C. E.</name>
                <name>Payne, A. E.</name>
                <name>Phillips, F. E.</name>
                <name>Plibersek, T. J.</name>
                <name>Rae, S. T.</name>
                <name>Reid, G. J.</name>
                <name>Repacholi, D. P.</name>
                <name>Rishworth, A. L.</name>
                <name>Roberts, T. G.</name>
                <name>Rowland, M. A.</name>
                <name>Ryan, J. C.</name>
                <name>Scrymgour, M. R.</name>
                <name>Sitou, S.</name>
                <name>Smith, D. P. B. (Teller)</name>
                <name>Smith, M. J. H.</name>
                <name>Soon, X.</name>
                <name>Stanley, A. M. (Teller)</name>
                <name>Swanson, M. J.</name>
                <name>Teesdale, J. A.</name>
                <name>Templeman, S. R.</name>
                <name>Thwaites, K. L.</name>
                <name>Urquhart, A. E.</name>
                <name>Watson-Brown, E.</name>
                <name>Watts, T. G.</name>
                <name>Wells, A. S.</name>
                <name>White, R. P.</name>
                <name>Wilson, J. H.</name>
                <name>Witty, S. J.</name>
                <name>Zappia, A.</name>
              </names>
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            <noes>
              <num.votes>50</num.votes>
              <title>NOES</title>
              <names>
                <name>Aldred, M. R. (Teller)</name>
                <name>Batt, D. J.</name>
                <name>Bell, A. M.</name>
                <name>Birrell, S. J.</name>
                <name>Boele, N.</name>
                <name>Caldwell, C. M.</name>
                <name>Chaffey, J. L.</name>
                <name>Chaney, K. E.</name>
                <name>Chester, D. J.</name>
                <name>Conaghan, P. J.</name>
                <name>Farley, D.</name>
                <name>Gee, A. R.</name>
                <name>Haines, H. M.</name>
                <name>Hamilton, G. R.</name>
                <name>Hastie, A. W.</name>
                <name>Hawke, A. G.</name>
                <name>Hogan, K. J.</name>
                <name>Joyce, B. T. G.</name>
                <name>Landry, M. L. (Teller)</name>
                <name>Le, D. T.</name>
                <name>Leeser, J.</name>
                <name>Littleproud, D.</name>
                <name>McCormack, M. F.</name>
                <name>McIntosh, M. I.</name>
                <name>McKenzie, Z. A.</name>
                <name>O'Brien, E. L.</name>
                <name>O'Brien, L. S.</name>
                <name>Pasin, A.</name>
                <name>Penfold, A. L.</name>
                <name>Pike, H. J.</name>
                <name>Price, M. L.</name>
                <name>Rebello, L. S.</name>
                <name>Ryan, M. M.</name>
                <name>Scamps, S. A.</name>
                <name>Sharkie, R. C. C.</name>
                <name>Small, B. J.</name>
                <name>Spender, A. M.</name>
                <name>Steggall, Z.</name>
                <name>Tehan, D. T.</name>
                <name>Thompson, P.</name>
                <name>Venning, T. H.</name>
                <name>Violi, A. A.</name>
                <name>Wallace, A. B.</name>
                <name>Webster, A. E.</name>
                <name>Wilkie, A. D.</name>
                <name>Willcox, A. J.</name>
                <name>Wilson, R. J.</name>
                <name>Wilson, T. R.</name>
                <name>Wood, J. P.</name>
                <name>Young, T. J.</name>
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              <num.votes>0</num.votes>
              <title>PAIRS</title>
              <names />
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            <body>
              <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed to.<br />Debate adjourned.</p>
            </body>
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        </division>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>4</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">12:25</span>):  I call the Leader of the House on a point of order.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DYW" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Burke:</span>
                  </a>  Mr Speaker, at the end of the remarks that were made by the member for Moncrieff, there was some physically violent imagery used that is way beyond what you would ordinarily hear in this chamber. I would ask the member for Moncrieff to withdraw.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="282981" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Bell:</span>
                  </a>  To assist the House, I withdraw.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  I thank the member for Moncrieff.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>4</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>4</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Bell, Angie MP</name>
                <name.id>282981</name.id>
                <electorate>Moncrieff</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>4</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>5</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
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        <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:WX="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">BILLS</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Register Levy) Amendment Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>5</page.no>
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            <a href="r7544" type="Bill">
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Register Levy) Amendment Bill 2026</span>
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            </a>
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          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>5</page.no>
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          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>5</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">McIntosh, Melissa MP</name>
                <name.id>281513</name.id>
                <electorate>Lindsay</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="281513" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mrs McINTOSH</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lindsay</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:26</span>):  I rise to speak on the Private Health Insurance National Joint Replacement Register Levy Amendment Bill 2026. Let me say at the outset that the coalition will not oppose this bill. It is a sensible technical change, but it comes at a time when the Albanese government is making it harder for the very people this registry exists to protect to get a joint replacement at all.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The National Joint Replacement Registry has been tracking hip and knee replacements nationally since 2002. It's run by the Australian Orthopaedic Association and captures data on nearly every hip, knee, shoulder, elbow, wrist and spine procedure in both public and private hospitals. Last year, it recorded its one-millionth joint replacement, and that data tells surgeons which devices perform well and which do not.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When someone has a new hip or knee put in, they want to know it will last. This registry means surgeons can see how every device is performing, and patients can be told what to expect. When a device starts to fail, it is often this registry that raises the alarm first. Australia's registry was one of the first in the world to identify problems with a metal-on-metal hip that was later recalled around the globe. That is the value of good data. It protects people.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The registry is funded through a levy on medical device companies. At the moment, that levy is capped at $5,000 per device each financial year. This bill removes the cap, so the levy is shared according to how many devices each company actually supplies. It is fairer. It has the support of the Australian Orthopaedic Association, Private Healthcare Australia and the Medical Technology Association of Australia, and it comes at no cost to the Commonwealth.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I also note that this bill was referred to a Senate committee because, once again, the government did not give the opposition notice or a briefing before introducing it. Even a simple bill deserves basic courtesy. The committee reports on 16 October, and the coalition will consider its findings.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I cannot speak about a registry that measures joint replacements without talking about whether Australians can actually access them. Joint replacements are classed as elective surgery, but try asking anyone waiting for a new hip or knee whether it feels optional. A joint replacement might be called elective, but, for the person waiting, it's not optional at all. I know that many people in this place will understand that, for ageing parents—and we have an ageing population—it is a difference between walking to the shops or not, and it's sometimes the difference between that and walking at all. People need to be able to live independently. They need to be able to pick up their grandkids, to stay in work and to not have that pain, and this is why people have these operations. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Between 60 and 70 per cent of hip and knee replacements are performed on Australians aged over 65, and around 70 per cent of them are done in private hospitals. The people most likely to need a new hip or knee are older Australians, and most of them get it through their private health insurance, which is exactly why the Albanese government's cut to the private health insurance rebate for over-65s is so damaging. Up to three million older Australians will lose part of their rebate. Around 1.2 million of them are pensioners and around 700,000 are on the full pension. The department's own figures show a single person over 70 on gold cover will pay around $400 more a year. The Health Minister has told Australians that 44,000 older people will drop their cover. Documents released under freedom of information show departmental records are indicating 78,000 by 2029-30, and that is only the people who walk away altogether. Many more will downgrade. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This government has a habit of announcing first and doing the work later. It did not brief the opposition on this bill. Its own department has confirmed it did not consult on the rebate cut either, and it did not know how many pensioners this would hit until it was asked in the Senate. A department official told the Senate inquiry:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">We didn't know they were pensioners …</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I therefore moved the following second reading amendment circulated in my name:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">"whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) notes that:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) despite joint replacements being considered elective surgery, they are often critical for a patient's overall health and wellbeing as well as their broader productivity;</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) approximately 60 to 70 per cent of total hip and knee joint replacements are performed on individuals aged over 65;</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(c) the majority (around 70 per cent) of total knee and hip replacement surgeries occur in the private sector;</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(d) the Government's proposal to cut the private health insurance rebate for over 65s will force many older Australians to downgrade or abandon their private health cover;</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(e) individuals who are no longer covered by private insurance for joint replacements will join public waiting lists; and</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(f) public elective surgery waiting lists have blown out with some patients waiting months or even years to access joint replacement operations; and</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) criticises the Government for cutting the private health insurance rebate for over 3 million older Australians, including over 1.2 million pensioners".</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Here is why that matters for this bill. The department told the Senate inquiry that joint replacements, along with cataract surgery and dialysis, are among the most common services older Australians use that are only guaranteed under gold cover. Catholic Health Australia estimates that one in five affected over-65s will change their level of cover. That is around 665,000 downgrades. Every one of them risks losing guaranteed cover for a new hip or knee.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When they need that operation, they will not stop needing it; they will join the public waiting list. Those lists are already far too long. Across all elective surgery, one in 10 patients waits almost a year—329 days—and knee replacement patients wait longer than most. Half of all patients waiting for a knee replacement in a public hospital wait more than nine months. That is nine months of pain, nine months of broken sleep and nine months of losing strength, fitness and independence, and the longer people wait, the harder their recovery becomes. I hear from older people in my own community who have done the right thing all their lives and who now do not know if they can keep their cover. They are worried that, if they lose it, they will be waiting in pain for an operation they cannot afford to go without. This rebate cut is not a saving; it is a cost shift onto public hospitals and onto patients. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This registry does important work. It can tell us how well a new knee performs, but it cannot tell us about the people stuck on the waiting list. A registry can only record the operations that actually happen. So the coalition will not oppose this bill. We will support the registry and the work of the Australian Orthopaedic Association, but we will keep fighting the government's cut to the private health insurance rebate for older Australians. Many of these people have paid their premiums for 40 or 50 years. They have done the right thing. They deserve better than being pushed onto a public waiting list in their older age.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="249710" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Chesters</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Is the amendment seconded? </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="316547" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Rebello:</span>
                    </a>  I second the amendment in reserve my right to speak.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Chesters, Lisa MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>249710</name.id>
                  <electorate>Bendigo</electorate>
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                  <page.no>6</page.no>
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                  <name role="metadata">Rebello, Leon MP</name>
                  <name.id>316547</name.id>
                  <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
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          <title>Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>6</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>6</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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                <page.no>6</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Bell, Angie MP</name>
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                <electorate>Moncrieff</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BELL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moncrieff</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:35</span>):  I rise to speak on the Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026. I want to start by talking about Australian sport and what sport means to our nation. Australia is one of the greatest sporting nations on Earth, and I think our track record shows that. We really love our sport, not only because of what it does for our country and our community but also because of what it does for our national pride in bringing our country together as a nation and, most of all, the opportunities it brings. As the shadow minister for sport and also the shadow minister for youth and the arts, I know that sport and all the different codes bring a special opportunity for young people when it comes to participation and inclusion as well as when it comes to that very special word, 'opportunity'.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Not everyone is good at STEM—science and maths—and sport delivers an opportunity for young people who may otherwise not have the opportunity to compete or to be good at something to perhaps become a professional or, as in their wildest dreams, to be an Olympian. To be a gold, silver or bronze medallist or even participate at that level is something outstanding that Australians can aspire to. That is why I call sport the great leveller, and I apply that rule also to the arts. It gives to young people that opportunity that they otherwise might not be able to access. Sport also delivers resilience and life lessons. I think that's important, because it builds strength of character. And we do hold our sporting champions in the highest of esteem, even through some of those times when it could be difficult.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to rewind a little bit, back to the Olympics in 2000, which was the first time I was privileged enough to go to an Olympics. I think back to when we had the women's four-by-100 relay, and the outcome wasn't what we wanted; we were not successful in that race. But there was that feeling in the stand, the pride that Australians had—and continue to have—in our Olympians, when athletes are able to reach their dream and their goal of attending and competing in an Olympic Games, regardless of the outcome, regardless of whether the outcome was not a good one, as in the four-by-100 women's relay that I was in the stands to watch, or was indeed a great one, as we saw with Cathy Freeman, a gold medallist, in her race. So sport delivers something very special.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Fast-forward to the 2024 Paris Olympics, where our Aussie athletes became our most successful team ever, with 53 medals and a record number of personal bests, which is something very special. One of my favourite Olympics moments was when Kieren Perkins, a great Queenslander, was the defending Olympic champion, and he went on to win gold again in the 1996 Atlanta 1,500-metre freestyle, from lane 8, after being the slowest qualifier for that final. That was a very special time, I'm sure, in Kieren Perkins's life, as it was for all Australians watching him succeed.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Newcastle Knights fans might recognise that situation as well, if there are any in the chamber at the moment, as they came from finishing last one season to actually winning by just one point in the next season—this season, of course. These are remarkable moments of resilience for our sporting history. We never quite know who's going to win the finals, like in the NRL, when the Penrith Panthers—I see the member for Lindsay is here. How many times in a row did they win, Member for Lindsay? I think it was three, wasn't it?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="281513" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mrs McIntosh:</span>
                    </a>  No, more than that.</span>
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                    <a href="282981" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms BELL:</span>
                    </a>  More than that, I'm told.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="249127" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Conroy:</span>
                    </a>  It was four.</span>
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                    <a href="282981" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms BELL:</span>
                    </a>  Four! Do I hear five? Of course, when sporting teams are successful, it brings communities together, and it gives us that national pride and that local pride as well—the pride that I hold for my own teams, the Gold Coast Titans, who will be premiers one day, and, of course, the Gold Coast SUNS, who also will be premiers one day. But I do digress.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to talk about those moments of resilience as I talk about sport in our nation, and I want to talk about the big events that we have, before I get to talking about the bill. Let's talk about the Commonwealth Games in 2018 on the Gold Coast—70 nations, 18 sports, 6,500 athletes and, of course, all of the benefits to the local community in terms of those legacy infrastructure pieces that have been left behind and now, of course, are going to be used and upgraded for the 2032 Olympics. In the 2018 Commonwealth Games, we saw, for the first time, equal medals for men and women. I think that that is a milestone that the Gold Coast remembers fondly and that we should, as a nation, be proud of.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In world cup tournaments played here or played overseas—it was great for Australia to host the women's football world cup in 2023, with a valiant effort, of course, by our magnificent Matildas. We saw how that inspired young girls around the country and, indeed, around the world. The inspiration of the Matildas and the way they brought together our community was so important. I'll just remind Australians of the contrast, at that time, between what the coalition promised to deliver, which was $250 million in girls changing rooms across the country, and the Prime Minister's promise to have a public holiday if the Matildas were to win. I think that says volumes about the differences on this side of the chamber versus that side of the chamber. Our men's soccer team did us proud in a thrilling world cup competition, and we have many upcoming world cups, including next year's netball. Now, that netball—we are in a countdown. We're at 316 days until the world cup netball tournament, and we are thrilled to be hosting in Australia. I want to send a shout-out to our great Australian Liz Ellis for the work that she did in captaining the Australian netball team. We've got softball world cups coming up and the men's and women's rugby union world cups in 2027 and 2029, respectively.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And there are our national competitions. We have the magnificent AFL codes, the AFL women's code and, of course, the NRL. We have soccer. We have all of those codes that deliver participation for communities. Whether those communities are playing a social game or rigorously participating in their chosen sport, it is about communities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the electorate of Moncrieff, which I represent, many people participate in a sport that is known widely: surf lifesaving. I have nine surf clubs in my electorate; there are many surf clubs across the Gold Coast. I was recently at the Kurrawa Surf Life Saving Club at Broadbeach, on the barbecue, helping out the volunteers of that great surf club. I have been advocating strongly for some years now for surf lifesaving to be included in the 2032 Olympics. As a Co-Chair of the Parliamentary Friends of Surf Lifesaving, that is something that we would like to see included in the shortlist, which I believe is due out soon. But, most of all, I want to pay tribute to the volunteers in the surf lifesaving movement and the age captains that support our nippers. Indeed, those surf lifesaving volunteers and surf clubs are the glue that holds our community together, particularly across the Gold Coast.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But Australia more broadly is indeed a great sporting nation. It's not always about winning. It's about quality participation. It's about teamwork. It's about the culture of a club, the culture of a sporting code and the esprit de corps that we experience with sport. It's about what sport gives to community and what community gives to sport. It's a two-way street when it comes to sport. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian men's rugby team, the Wallabies, is a great testament of proud Australians and their followers are proud to be Australian, even when they're up against one of the best teams in the world. We know they were up against all dominating All Blacks on Saturday in New Zealand. They have dominated that code for a long time. They've won the Bledisloe Cup for 24 consecutive years. They're pretty hard to beat, and the Wallabies have never won a game in New Zealand during that time. Yet our Wallabies put in a gallant effort in their games every time, and we're very proud of them. Our rugby fans remain steadfast with their support. This is an example of how sport also comes to be about what it gives to us as a community and what it means to us as a community and as a nation. The Wallabies are indeed a great example of how much Australians love our sport and how much sport is indeed part of our culture. A big shout out to Surfers Paradise Rugby Union Club, which has bred many champions that have played for the Wallabies on the world stage. It's a respected game. The rules are respected and the international competition, indeed, is respected. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That fair competition is at the heart of this legislation that we are debating today, and I mentioned that sport is also about what it gives to a community and what it can do for us as a nation. I just want to touch on the Brisbane 2032 Olympics while I have the opportunity. These games will bring significant economic, infrastructural and social benefits across Queensland and, of course, across Australia. The Queensland Crisafulli government is to be congratulated. It's done a great job to ensure that Queensland benefits from the games. It's not just South-East Queensland. All Queenslanders will be able to benefit from the 2032 Olympics. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The rowing event is a great example of that. Just last week I was up in Rockhampton with my very good friend the member for Capricornia visiting the rowing precinct on the mighty Fitzroy River, as it's known to central Queenslanders, a place where Australians have been rowing with great success for many years. I met with the President of the Rockhampton Rowers and Fitzroy Rowing Club, Sarah Black. Sarah and her family have been rowing on the Fitzroy River for generations, and she has two young children that will continue that. The club is so excited about the opportunity the Olympics and the Paralympics are going to deliver for central Queenslanders and indeed for young people. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Brisbane 2032 Olympic Committee, together with the IOC and the Queensland Liberal-National Party government, has approved and back in Rockhampton as the location for the Olympic rowing, and as do I, as does the member for Capricornia and the Leader of the Nationals, Senator Canavan. However, the Minister for Sport has not backed it in and has not visited the rowing precinct in Rockhampton. Maybe it's because she's too busy doing other things like working out how to pay her fines for making the taxpayer fork out for her to attend interstate birthday parties on a Saturday night or planning another trip to New York. I don't know why the Minister for Sport has not backed in the 2032 Olympic rowing venue in Rockhampton. It's dumbfounding to me why a minister for sport wouldn't support that. It's a mystery in fact. Shame on this minister, who seems to have limited interest in rowing and certainly limited interest in regional Queensland and regional Queenslanders. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But to get to the legislation, I want to talk about Australia as a world leader in sport integrity. Australia has a longstanding record of supporting clean, fair and safe sport. As a signatory to the UNESCO Anti-Doping convention and as the Oceania Representative on the World Anti-Doping Association, or WADA, Executive Committee and associated committees, Australia, through Sport Integrity Australia, has been integral in shaping the World Anti-Doping Code. The World Anti-Doping Code provides the framework that allows athletes to compete under the same core anti-doping rules wherever they are in the world and allows countries to host international sporting competitions. It's updated every six years. The last time it was updated was in 2019, for implementation by member countries in 2021, which is exactly what we did under the former, coalition, Morrison government in 2021.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For this iteration, following a two-year global review by WADA, the code was approved in December 2025 and will begin on 1 January 2027. Specifically, the 2027 code strengthens the effectiveness, the fairness and the consistency of the international anti-doping system, including through enhanced operational independence; improved athlete appeal rights, which is very important for fairness; and updated public disclosure provisions. I'll talk to these in more detail shortly. Australia, through Sport Integrity Australia, participated throughout the review process, working with athletes, sporting organisations, the National Sports Tribunal, the Australian Sports Drug Medical Advisory Committee, the Australian Sports Commission, peak sporting bodies and Australian anti-doping experts.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">To maintain a globally harmonised anti-doping framework, all code signatories, including Australia, are in the process of reviewing and updating their frameworks to comply with the revised code and international standards by 1 January 2027. Implementing the changes to comply with the new code will involve passing this bill, which updates the legislation, which is necessary. It's necessary so that Australia can host major competitions and it's necessary so that we can compete in major competitions. Sport Integrity Australia, the agency responsible for combating doping in sport in Australia, will take the lead in the implementation of this work and has already been working with sports stakeholders to ensure that Australia implements the 2027 code ahead of 1 January 2027.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">With 10 weeks to run, however—only 10 weeks to go and a couple of sitting weeks left in the year—why has the minister taken so long and left it so late to introduce the 12 pages of legislation into the parliament? Here we are with just a couple of weeks left to go. We haven't seen it before now. It was passed by WADA in 2025, which begs the question: why has it taken more than a year to get here to this point today in the chamber? The minister noted in her speech that Sport Integrity Australia has already begun implementation activities, before the legislation is passed, so they're ahead of the game. It's interesting that the minister needs to note that, given that she has left it very late to introduce this into the parliament, putting pressure on hardworking public servants to deliver this in time while she has caused the delay. You have to ask what the minister has been doing. She seems to be too busy travelling to New York, too busy paying the fines for making taxpayers pay for her to attend interstate birthday parties on a Saturday night and too busy playing with Ooshies—Ooshie, Ooshie, Ooshie! Oi, oi, oi!—in her Canberra office.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It's important that our athletes, our coaches and sports administrators, who give everything a fair go, should have trust they are competing in a fair contest. I'll come back to this concept of trust, but those at home listening may recall international investigations into Russian sport that identified institutional involvement in doping practices and the manipulation of samples and interference with anti-doping processes. I want to talk about that. These findings led to significant international consequences and demonstrated the harm that systemic doping can cause to clean athletes and confidence in international competition. That is why the world anti-doping laws remain important for Australia to implement.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'd like to talk about the specific amendments to the Sport Integrity Australia Act 2020 and the National Sports Tribunal Act 2019. First, this bill makes amendments to strengthen athletes' appeal rights in relation to therapeutic use exemption decisions. Athletes will now be able to seek a review of therapeutic use exemption decisions through the National Sports Tribunal. This means that athletes who have been denied approval to use a legitimate medical substance or method which is usually prohibited in a sporting context can take their case to a national, independent appeal body.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Second, the independence of Australia's anti-doping system will indeed be reinforced by transferring responsibility for imposing consequences from sports bodies to Sport Integrity Australia. The 2027 code requires greater operational independence in the administration of antidoping programs. This avoids potential conflicts of interest where a sporting organisation is responsible for those decisions affecting athletes in their sport. The Sport Integrity CEO will issue provisional suspensions and sanctions where an antidoping violation may have been committed.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Third, the new approach to publication on the Sport Integrity Australia violations list balances the public interest with privacy safeguards and further protects vulnerable participants, and I think that's important. While the code still requires a public-facing list on antidoping violations that have occurred, there is now a broader scope to exclude athletes in certain circumstances. This includes those who have not been found to have committed an offence or who are not at fault. With respect to minors, protected persons and recreational athletes, there will be a greater consideration of whether publishing the details of a violation will be in the best interest of that individual while balancing that with the public interest.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, the bill updates the Sport Integrity Australia Act definition of an 'athlete' to remove the domestic rule that automatically treats a person as an athlete for six months after they last competed. These changes bring the act into line with the definition and technical instruments recognised under the international antidoping framework, so it's simply a domestic update to the international framework.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I would like to come back to the concept of trust. It seems to be some behaviour from those opposite, but I'm glad that Sport Integrity Australia are the ones that are implementing the changes associated with this bill and that it doesn't rely on ministerial power or an increase in ministerial direction to do anything, because the minister has displayed concerning behaviour in terms of saying one thing but doing completely another. What is the job of the Minister for Sport, after all? It's to support sport for all Australians—well, not this minister. The minister didn't back in the IOC approved, the Brisbane 2032 Olympics committee approved and the magnificent Queensland LNP government approved decision of Rockhampton rowing as the facility for the 2032 Olympics. Shame on the minister. The member for Capricornia and I invited—and we invite; it's an open invitation—the Minister for Sport to visit Rockhampton and back in this important facility for Queensland, but still there's been no show.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The next issue where the minister has changed from what she said she would do relates to some recent job cuts, and this came up in Senate estimates recently. The minister claims to be investing in sport under this government. The Australian Sports Commission has announced at least 50 jobs are required to be cut. This Labor government are having to make cuts to sport because of their addiction to spending. When they're spending into the economy, they have to keep getting the money from somewhere, and now we're seeing 50 jobs cut from the Australian Sports Commission, which Kieren Perkins outlined at the last Senate estimates, and that's not a good thing. People losing their jobs is not a good thing. Raising taxes is not enough. They have to keep coming for more, and now they're coming for jobs in sport. Shame on this minister.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The next issue that I'd like to highlight where the minister has changed what she said she would do relates to the funding uncertainty the minister created for athletes. Earlier this year, the minister left athletes with funding uncertainty. The Albanese Labor government dealt a $182 million blow to grassroots sport. Australian Sports Commission CEO and Olympian Kieren Perkins OAM revealed during Senate estimates that the government ignored advice to provide ongoing funding for a group of key sporting programs. Programs that faced uncertainty beyond the next 12 months included Sporting Schools, Play Well, Local Para Champions and Local Sporting Champions. Mr Perkins said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">The participation based funding programs received a one-year terminating measure status for the 2026-27 budget year …</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Mr Perkins warned that the Sporting Schools program alone would see close to two million children participate in free after-school sports this year and that ending the program would 'have an impact on the number of children getting the opportunity to play free sport after school'. There goes the golden opportunity that I was talking about at the beginning of my speech! He said this lack of long-term funding certainty would 'limit those organisations' capacity to provide participation based growth programs within their sporting environments'. Despite these warnings, the Labor government stripped ongoing funding for these programs and slashed the sporting grants budget from $331 million in 2025-26 to $151 million in 2029-30. That's a reduction of $182 million. That is not investing in sport. That is doing the opposite. That is creating uncertainty in grassroots sports, and it's a wrecking ball for opportunity. Shame on this minister.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The next issue where the minister's delivery on her policy comes into question relates to the protection of indicia and images legislation. Recently, the minister gave chapter and verse on how critical it was to have this legislation pass so she can quickly and easily provide protection for indicia and images through legislative instruments. Earlier this month, however, the Brisbane 2032 Olympic committee announced the Olympic Games emblem as the sulphur crested cockatoo in the shape of Queensland. You might have seen it. It's magnificent. Yet this minister has not registered the emblem for protection under the legislation. This means that anybody can reproduce the emblem on a T-shirt, on a key ring or as a fluffy toy cockatoo and sell the product, and they would not be in breach of any copyright law at this point.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Where's the legislation, Minister? This is all because the minister has failed in her duties. What has she been doing, and what has the Prime Minister been doing about holding his sport minister to account? The Prime Minister has been ducking for cover after it was discovered that he misused public money for a golf course in his electorate, of which he was an honorary member. The chair of the Centre for Public Integrity, former justice Whealy, has said the Albanese government misused public money for pork-barrelling—with $493 million into their seats. Former justice Whealy said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">I think there's a heavy onus on the government now to justify the process it has used. If they cannot justify that process, then I think the public in Australia would be driven to the conclusion that this is the misuse of public money at a serious level.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Marrickville golf course in the Prime Minister's electorate was the only golf course in Australia to be invited to the pork-barrelling scheme. It received $6 million despite other golf courses wanting to apply. The mayor said it'll be a reno for the space for events, live music and sport. Other reports state the funding was being used to fix the septic system—cleaning up the waterways from which house prices would increase. This would mean the Prime Minister's property, which is 200 metres away, would also skyrocket in value. There was no competitive process for the grant. Shame on the Prime Minister. If there had been a competitive process then other sporting clubs around the country, many in my own electorate, would've been able to apply for it, because many of them actually need that support.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In conclusion, the Labor government doesn't have a good track record in delivering in the sports portfolio. We need a government that governs for all Australians, not just for itself. They need to govern to deliver opportunity for young Australians in grassroots sports, and that clearly hasn't been the case under this prime minister's government and this minister. Australia is a great sporting nation despite the failures of the Minister for Sport and the Prime Minister. It is a good thing that this legislation will be implemented by the hardworking public servants at Sport Integrity Australia, and I wish to thank them and the representatives at our NSOs, our national sport organisations, including each sporting code peak body and the important role that they play on behalf of not only grassroots sports but also their professional athletes for the work they do to make our nation the great sporting nation that it is today.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill follows on from the good work that the coalition delivered when we were in government. It updates Australia's world-leading antidoping legislation. I do believe that the Minister for Sport and the Prime Minister are failing the sporting fraternity. They've created uncertainty. They obviously are under the microscope with what they've been doing with their pork-barrelling. The Minister for Sport has very limited interest in anything outside of South-East Queensland, in terms of Central Queensland or North Queensland, and the sports who will be part of the 2032 Olympics. I congratulate those regions for what they will be receiving under the Crisafulli LNP government in Queensland.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It was a delight—a pleasure, in fact—to visit the member for Capricornia last week and talk about the Rockhampton rowing club and what they are going to receive when it comes to hosting an event in Rockhampton. It will help locally. It will help the community. It will help small and family businesses who are crying out for help in the Central Queensland region. It will help all those owners of hospitality venues, coffee shops, hotels and everything else in Rockhampton. It will certainly help the local art gallery up there as well, which is a fabulous building that I also visited while I was there last week. But coming back to our position on the bill, this follows on from the good work of the coalition and, on that basis, the coalition will be supporting this bill.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Bell, Angie MP</name>
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                  <electorate>Moncrieff</electorate>
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                  <name role="metadata">Bell, Angie MP</name>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Autonomous Sanctions Amendment (Iran and Syria) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>11</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Autonomous Sanctions Amendment (Iran and Syria) Bill 2026</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>11</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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                <page.no>11</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">O'Brien, Ted MP</name>
                <name.id>138932</name.id>
                <electorate>Fairfax</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
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                    <a href="138932" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TED O'BRIEN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fairfax</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:06</span>):  I rise to speak on the Autonomous Sanctions Amendment (Iran and Syria) Bill 2026. Australia's autonomous sanctions framework is an important instrument of our foreign policy. It gives Australia the ability to act independently in defence of our national interests and to impose consequences on those who threaten international peace and security. The original Autonomous Sanctions Act was passed in 2011 with the support of the coalition. At the time, the then deputy opposition leader, Julie Bishop, told this parliament:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Sanctions are a necessary part of the armoury in international relations.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That was true then and it is even more true today. Australia faces its most challenging strategic circumstances since the Second World War. We are seeing an increasing convergence of economic and security interests, with economic power being used to advance strategic objectives. In this environment, Australia's ability to exercise all the instruments of statecraft have never been more important. But with these powers comes responsibility. Sanctions must be applied consistently and proportionately against a clear set of principles. Their application must be guided by our national interests, not political interests. Australia's credibility depends on the integrity with which we exercise these powers.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The coalition has a strong history of supporting and strengthening Australia's autonomous sanctions framework. It was the former coalition government under the then foreign minister, Marise Payne, that introduced Magnitsky-style sanctions in 2021 as an amendment to this bill. Those reforms of the coalition strengthened Australia's ability to target serious human rights abuses and corruption. It demonstrated the coalition's commitment to maintaining an effective sanctions regime. That brings me to the bill before the House today.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill seeks to put beyond doubt the validity and enforceability of certain sanctioned goods, instruments, including eight—and I've been advised by the government only eight—each of which, I've been advised, relates to either Iran or Syria, made between 2012 and 2016. These instruments were published as gazette notices, rather than registered as legislative instruments. The amendments provide legal certainty, ensuring Australia's sanctions framework continues to operate as intended. The coalition supports the bill because Australia must retain the ability to use these powers wisely in defence of our national interest.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a second time.</span>
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            <title>Third Reading</title>
            <page.no>11</page.no>
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                <page.no>11</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Gorman, Patrick MP</name>
                <name.id>74519</name.id>
                <electorate>Perth</electorate>
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                    <a href="74519" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GORMAN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Perth</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister to the Prime Minister, Assistant Minister for the Public Service and Assistant Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:10</span>):  by leave—I move:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a third time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a third time.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Health Insurance Amendment (Incentive Payments and Other Measures) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>12</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Health Insurance Amendment (Incentive Payments and Other Measures) Bill 2026</span>
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            <title>Consideration of Senate Message</title>
            <page.no>12</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Consideration of Senate Message</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill returned from the Senate with an amendment.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Ordered that the amendment be considered immediately.</span>
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                  <span style="font-style:italic;">Senate's amendment—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(1) Schedule 1, item 4, page 24 (after line 10), after subsection 66(1), insert:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(1A) Rules for the purposes of paragraph (1)(a) or (b) must only specify a provision that is a section, subsection, paragraph or subparagraph.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Note: Rules for the purposes of paragraph (1)(a) and (b) specify provisions under which computer programs may take incentive payment programs administrative action for the Secretary or the Chief Executive Medicare. Specifying such provisions at the section level or lower makes easier to identify which kinds of actions are to be taken by a computer program.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>12</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Gorman, Patrick MP</name>
                <name.id>74519</name.id>
                <electorate>Perth</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="74519" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GORMAN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Perth</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister to the Prime Minister, Assistant Minister for the Public Service and Assistant Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:11</span>):  I move:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">That the amendment be agreed to.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I understand that it has been circulated to members and that there's further detail available for members should they need it.</span>
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          </speech>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>12</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">McIntosh, Melissa MP</name>
                <name.id>281513</name.id>
                <electorate>Lindsay</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="281513" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mrs McINTOSH</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lindsay</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:11</span>):  I rise to speak on the message from the Senate in relation to the Health Insurance Amendment (Incentive Payments and Other Measures) Bill 2026. At its heart, this bill is about the machinery of Medicare. It sets up a legislative framework for programs that already exist: the Bulk Billing Practice Incentive Program, the Practice Incentives Program, the Workforce Incentive Program and the General Practice in Aged Care Incentive. It's about how those programs are approved, administered, checked and enforced. These things matter because good administration matters and these are important programs. They back the doctors and nurses and the practices that hold our system together.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill enables certain decisions in relation to incentives to be made autonomously. While it might be suitable in some circumstances, we have already seen in other policy areas such as aged care how autonomous decision-making without human oversight has resulted in disastrous consequences. Yesterday, the Senate passed a coalition amendment that provides a small yet important safeguard on autonomous decision-making. The coalition's amendment imposes additional requirements on what decisions and actions can be made autonomously in addition to the requirements already contained in the legislation. It's not about prohibiting routine decisions from being made autonomously; rather, it's about providing greater clarity to policy- and decision-makers as well as stakeholders on when and where decisions can be taken by a computer program.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As noted, this government has an appalling track record when left to its own devices on automation. We've heard of hundreds of cases in aged care where autonomous decision-making without the capacity for human override has led to farcical and cruel decisions denying elderly Australians the care they desperately need. We therefore commend this amendment to the House and urge members to support it.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Customs and Other Legislation Amendment (Illicit Tobacco Enforcement Modernisation and Other Measures) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>12</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Customs and Other Legislation Amendment (Illicit Tobacco Enforcement Modernisation and Other Measures) Bill 2026</span>
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        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>12</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">"the growth of the illicit market is the product of many years of inadequate enforcement, weak penalties and the absence of retail licensing, and that there is no good reason to cut the tobacco excise at this point in time".</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "the" (first occurring) be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">"House, whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, calls on the Government to immediately reduce the tobacco excise by 75 per cent to encourage consumers to move back to legal products, smash the black market and reduce the rampant organised crime which is now widespread in tobacco retailing".</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>13</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Scamps, Sophie MP</name>
                <name.id>299623</name.id>
                <electorate>Mackellar</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="299623" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr SCAMPS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mackellar</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:14</span>):  I rise to speak on the Customs and Other Legislation Amendment (Illicit Tobacco Enforcement Modernisation and Other Measures) Bill 2026. This bill is intended to improve Australia's customs enforcement framework for illicit tobacco and make it easier for law enforcement agencies to disrupt the increasingly sophisticated criminal networks operating in this market. The bill creates new offences relating to the unlawful importation, possession and conveyance of tobacco. Importantly, it moves away from an enforcement model that requires prosecutors to prove an intention to defraud and instead introduces objective, observable indicators that can establish reasonable suspicion.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I thank the Assistant Minister for Citizenship, Customs and Multicultural Affairs for his engagement with me and with Cancer Council Australia on a previous customs related amendment that I moved to the Combatting Illicit Tobacco Bill 2026. This amendment would have designated tobacco manufacturing equipment as a prohibited import under the Customs (Prohibited Imports) Regulations 1956. It would have made it an offence to import that equipment unless written permission had been granted by the relevant minister or authorised person, providing a mechanism to intercept equipment intended for illegal tobacco production before it became operational in Australia. While we did not reach an agreement on that amendment, controls on tobacco manufacturing equipment remain an area where Cancer Council Australia does see merit, and I look forward to revisiting this with the minister in the future.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">While the bill we are debating today does address real gaps in the current enforcement system, it comes at a time when the evidence tells us very clearly that Australia still has a long way to go in combating illicit tobacco. Estimates published by the Australian Bureau of Statistics in June 2026, just a few months ago, suggest that around 80 per cent of all nicotine consumed in Australia in 2025 came from illicit sources. This trend is particularly concerning among younger Australians, with the Cancer Council's young adults study, conducted in early 2026, reporting an illicit purchase rate of 79 per cent among surveyed young adults aged 18 to 24. Together, these figures highlight the extent to which illicit tobacco and nicotine products have become entrenched in the Australian market.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is all happening despite overall smoking rates continuing to fall. Australia's long-term tobacco control policies have contributed to extraordinarily important reductions in smoking, but the illicit share of the remaining market has grown dramatically. The Illicit Tobacco and E-cigarette Commissioner, the ITEC Commissioner, estimates that illicit tobacco accounted for between 50 and 60 per cent of the tobacco market in 2024-25. It's also estimated that criminal networks derived between $4.1 billion and $6.9 billion in net profit from illicit tobacco in that financial year alone. The Australian Transaction Reports and Analysis Centre, AUSTRAC, describes illicit tobacco as a 'serious organised financial crime problem', generating billions in criminal proceeds that are laundered through the Australian financial system. Its 2026 assessment says that the market is underpinned by transnational crime groups and outlaw motorcycle gangs, with competition for the market associated with widespread arson attacks, multiple homicides and other violent assaults. The ITEC Commissioner has said that criminal enterprises have streamlined their efforts—now, Australia, we must step up ours.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The health implications of tobacco use must also remain front and centre. Tobacco smoking remains our largest preventable cause of cancer and contributes to heart and lung disease and premature death. Illicit products bring additional public health concerns because they frequently sit outside Australia's regulatory requirements. The AIHW notes that illicit products may contain higher levels of nicotine, potentially increasing addictiveness.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But perhaps the most profound public health effect of the illicit market is that it makes a deadly, addictive product cheaper and easier to obtain. The latest national survey found that 50 per cent of people buying branded illicit tobacco obtained it from a tobacconist. Across the Northern Beaches, constituents are sick to death of watching tobacco shops appear in neighbourhood shopping strips, near schools and near bus stops—in places where children and teenagers walk every day. Residents from all over the Northern Beaches have contacted me about these shops. They have described tobacconists opening within walking distance of primary schools and displaying lollies, American candy and products that are attractive to children alongside tobacco and vaping products. They are selling illegal products in broad daylight, seemingly with impunity.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the key challenges we still face is enforcement of the retail environments in which these products are sold directly to our communities. Australia needs a comprehensive approach grounded in national consistency in enforcement reform. This would include: a nationally consistent licensing regime covering the entire tobacco supply chain; a unified national enforcement framework with minimum penalties and powers; a permanent national illicit tobacco and vape intelligence capability; mandatory national reporting of enforcement activity; and substantially greater resourcing of enforcement bodies.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The inconsistency of licensing rules between states and territories creates opportunities to exploit the weakest parts of the regulatory system. Queensland's multipronged approach to illicit tobacco is leading the way in reducing consumer use of these products. That state has the largest enforcement team per capita in Australia: strong penalties for retailers found selling illegal tobacco or vaping products and free nicotine replacement therapy and telephone counselling via Quitline for eligible groups. Other states and territories are still playing catch-up on strengthening laws and boosting enforcement workforces. Discrepancies remain between jurisdictions in holding landlords accountable for illegal sales. In addition to an increase in legal sales in Queensland, calls to Queensland's Quitline have doubled following their recent enforcement campaign.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The recent Senate inquiry into Australia's illegal tobacco crisis recommended that the Commonwealth work through National Cabinet towards a nationally harmonised illicit tobacco enforcement framework, encompassing licensing obligations, inspection powers, penalties, intelligence sharing, supply chain integrity and retail compliance. The Australian Medical Association has similarly called for: nationally consistent retail licensing; national data capability across health, police, border, revenue and corporate regulators; stronger closure and licence-cancellation powers; and legislation designed to close loopholes rather than create the next one.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And consider this: there are approximately 9,500 supermarkets across our country, but Australia now has around 40,000 retailers selling tobacco, despite the fact that only a minority of Australians smoke. This illustrates the scale of the problem we are facing and that we need to do more. Dramatically reducing tobacco excise, which has been suggested by some here, is an ill-considered kneejerk reaction and is not the answer. We must listen to our peak health bodies, who have the expertise in this area. Again, the Australian Medical Association says that tobacco taxation has contributed materially to declining smoking rates and warns that lower prices are particularly likely to affect young people and people who are experiencing socioeconomic disadvantage.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The AMA instead points to border enforcement, supply chain controls, retailer licensing, intelligence sharing and targeted criminal enforcement. The Public Health Association of Australia likewise says there is no evidence that a reduction in tobacco duties would eliminate Australia's illicit market. The Public Health Association warns that, if tobacco companies retain part of the tax reduction, consumers may see little benefit at all, and, if prices do fall, cheaper legal cigarettes could increase tobacco consumption without dismantling the criminal supply chains already operating throughout Australia.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Canadian experience deserves particular attention. In 1994, the Canadian federal government and several provinces responded to a serious contraband problem by dramatically reducing tobacco taxes. Legal cigarette prices fell by roughly half in parts of Canada, but the illicit supply networks did not disappear. In the 11 years before the rollback, Canadian per capita cigarette consumption had fallen by 42.3 per cent. In the five years afterwards, it fell by just 3.2 per cent. Added to this, government lost almost Can$5 billion in tobacco tax revenue over that five years. The provinces that retained higher taxes experienced a much larger fall in consumption than those that cut them. Smoking rates among young people and young adults also increased following the roll-back. Provinces that cut taxes experienced more smoking initiation and lower quitting rates than provinces that maintained higher prices. Canada ultimately moved back towards stronger taxation alongside coordinated enforcement, licensing, supply chain controls and measures to disrupt contraband.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Reducing the legal price of cigarettes is not the silver bullet. If we are to make headway into addressing the problem of illicit tobacco in this country, it means a number of things. It means dismantling the illicit tobacco supply chain. It means stronger, nationally consistent licensing and consequences for people who facilitate this trade. It means every state and territory having consistent legislation, specialist teams, intelligence and resources to act. It means national consistency in shutting down shops selling illicit products. It means national data and intelligence-sharing. At the same time, it means reducing demand, supporting people to quit, investing in effective public awareness campaigns and preventing the next generation from becoming addicted in the first place.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill strengthens important parts of the Commonwealth enforcement architecture, but no Commonwealth customs bill on its own can solve what we are facing. Australia has made enormous progress in reducing smoking, and the rise of illicit tobacco should not cause us to abandon that progress. It should cause governments at every level to become more coordinated, more sophisticated and more determined in the way that we protect it and the health of all Australians. I commend the bill to the House.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>14</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wood, Jason MP</name>
                <name.id>E0F</name.id>
                <electorate>La Trobe</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="E0F" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WOOD</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">La Trobe</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:28</span>):  Going back to the former Liberal-National government, a lot of work was done in this place when it came to tackling illegal tobacco, from the Illicit Tobacco Taskforce to bringing in mandatory tobacco import permits—I was the minister responsible—to giving the Australian Border Force, who had the responsibility of looking after our borders, permits to quickly go to a magistrate and have products destroyed. The problem, though, is like when I visited the mail house in New South Wales, with the number of boxes of contraband coming in—the ABF were like Santa's little helpers. Every second or third box had tobacco in it. That's how massive this problem is.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Something I was trying to push for at the time—I had it on the national agenda—when we had the police and ministerial conference, where all the police ministers and the attorneys-general turn up, was for the states and territories to take account and be responsible for this. At the time, I spoke to the former Victorian chief commissioner of police and the Attorney-General and said: 'This is going to be a huge problem. You need to do something about it.' And they said: 'Do you know what? It's not a problem in Victoria.' Well, sadly, it's a massive problem in Victoria. The state Labor government has completely failed. So many victims and so many little supermarkets such as Ritchies and others have been really impacted by this. It needs to have a penalty regime in place that makes it easy for law enforcement to issue these penalties. When it comes to this, the coalition does support the bill. But, when it comes to excise, something has to happen, because criminals are making a mountain of money out of illegal tobacco.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="249710" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Chesters</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  I do apologise to the member for La Trobe. the debate is interrupted in accordance with standing order 43. The debate may be resumed at a later hour. The member will have leave to continue speaking when the debate is resumed.</span>
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                <talker>
                  <page.no>15</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Chesters, Lisa MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>249710</name.id>
                  <electorate>Bendigo</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
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    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS</title>
        <page.no>15</page.no>
        <type>STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS</type>
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          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Indi Electorate: Community Events</title>
          <page.no>15</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Indi Electorate: Community Events</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>15</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Haines, Helen MP</name>
              <name.id>282335</name.id>
              <electorate>Indi</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="282335" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr HAINES</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Indi</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:30</span>):  It's showtime—agricultural show time. Every spring, regional communities across Victoria come together for what is often one of their most important annual events. Agricultural shows are so much more than a fun day out, though. They're an opportunity for local farmers, producers and crafters to showcase their accomplishments and connect with their peers. Schools, service clubs and other community organisations build connections and participation that underpin their work for the rest of the year. And, of course, there's always a welcome boost to the local economy.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">On Saturday, I had the pleasure of attending the 160th Wangaratta Show, an incredible anniversary that is a testament to the hard work of organisers and volunteers like Secretary Charmane Bennett and Treasurer Bev Tiffin, without whose efforts this show simply could not happen.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Now, the animals are always a favourite, and it was particularly great to see the chooks and the ducks after what has been a tumultuous year for our poultry farmers. The Indi show season kicked off in Corryong, and over the coming weeks there will be events in Benalla, Euroa, Rutherglen, Myrtleford, Alexandra, Mansfield and Yea. I encourage everyone in this chamber to head along to Indi and come to one of our shows. And, while you're there, make sure you get a slice of fruit cake, because the electorate of Indi had a clean sweep in the Victorian state finals, taking out first, second and third place in the rich fruit cake category.</span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Richmond Electorate: Tourism Industry</title>
          <page.no>15</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Richmond Electorate: Tourism Industry</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>15</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Elliot, Justine MP</name>
              <name.id>DZW</name.id>
              <electorate>Richmond</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DZW" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mrs ELLIOT</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Richmond</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:31</span>):  I have some very exciting news for the House today. The Tweed region has been named Australia's premier travel destination in Lonely Planet's Best in Travel 2027. In fact, the Tweed was the only Australian destination included in the world's 25 top destinations for 2027, beating some world-famous tourism hotspots, including the Maldives.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Lonely Planet highlights some of the amazing things that the Tweed has to offer visitors and locals alike, whether it's enjoying our beautiful beaches from Tweed Heads to Pottsville, riding along the wonderful Northern Rivers Rail Trail, hiking in our national parks or experiencing the very vibrant arts and culture scenes of Murwillumbah and the Tweed Valley villages. This recognition showcases the outstanding job done by our local tourism operators, small businesses and their workers. This important acknowledgement will be really good for locals, good for jobs and really good for our local economy.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Tweed Shire's new mayor, Reece Byrnes, whom I'd like to congratulate on his recent election as the Tweed Shire's first Labor mayor, put it best when he said: 'To be recognised by Lonely Planet as one of the world's must-visit destinations is a wonderful honour for Tweed and a proud moment for our entire community.' It was just last month that I encouraged members of this House to come and visit our beautiful region. Lonely Planet has now extended that invitation to the whole world.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Invasive Species Management</title>
          <page.no>15</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Invasive Species Management</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>15</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Joyce, Barnaby MP</name>
              <name.id>e5d</name.id>
              <electorate>New England</electorate>
              <party>ON</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="e5d" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr JOYCE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">New England</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:33</span>):  I was wondering what I was going to speak on, and it's become absolutely imperative to bring this up. Just then, on the television, I heard that fire ants have been found in Sydney: <span style="font-style:italic;">Solenopsis invict</span>a. The issue is that I thought they'd just been discovered, but they were discovered a month ago, at the intermodal. This is an incredibly dire issue for agricultural Australia and for the recreation areas of Sydney.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Every year, people die from fire ant bites. But, more important than that, areas become completely inoperable for recreation—for kids, for parks, for houses and for whatever people do. If it gets into cattle areas, the cattle keep walking. They can't stop, and your production levels go down. The same thing goes for sheep. But, if you go to our native fauna, where they will absolutely have a devastating effect is on koalas, because the koalas' capacity to go down the tree and travel to the next tree is completely and utterly smashed by the fire ants.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is an issue; it's not made up. You can go and have a look at what's happening in the United States and at the loss of production and at people's loss of recreational capacity. Do the people of Sydney realise that this is happening? Do the people of Sydney realise how absolutely derelict the government has been in trying to deal with this incredibly important issue?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Woden Town parkrun</title>
          <page.no>16</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Woden Town parkrun</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>16</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Smith, David MP</name>
              <name.id>276714</name.id>
              <electorate>Bean</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="276714" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr DAVID SMITH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bean</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:35</span>):  This Saturday, Woden Town parkrun celebrates its first birthday, and I rise to congratulate everyone who has made its remarkable first year possible. Since launching in October 2025, Woden Town parkrun has become a much-needed and highly valued addition to the Woden community. In its first year, more than 18,000 people have crossed the finish line, with the event regularly welcoming 300 to 400 people every Saturday morning. In just its second week, Woden Town parkrun attracted 731 participants, breaking the ACT parkrun attendance record—an extraordinary start for a new community event. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But parkrun is about much more than running. Almost 500 different people have volunteered during the year, giving their time to make this free community event possible every Saturday. I particularly congratulate event directors Lili Mooney and Andrew Dempster, the Woden Town parkrun event team and the hundreds of volunteers who have built such a strong community in just 12 months. Congratulations again to Woden Town parkrun and to everyone involved. I look forward to seeing what your second year brings. I might have to walk this weekend, though.</span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Far North Queensland: Working Holiday Maker Program</title>
          <page.no>16</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Far North Queensland: Working Holiday Maker Program</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>16</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Katter, Bob MP</name>
              <name.id>HX4</name.id>
              <electorate>Kennedy</electorate>
              <party>KAP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HX4" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr KATTER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kennedy</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:36</span>):  The issue of student visas and migration is back on the agenda again. The Kennedy electorate that I represent produces about 12 per cent of Australia's fruit and vegetables. Bananas, for example, are the generic commodity most sold in supermarkets in Australia, and almost all of Australia's bananas come out of Far North Queensland, the area that I represent. To pick those bananas requires a huge workforce. The huge workforce for that industry and the related industries up there, like potatoes, citrus and grapes, simply cannot be gotten within Australia, so the backpackers are of absolutely vital necessity to us. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The young people coming from America, Japan or Europe have a great time. It's a really fun time for them. They visit Mission Beach, which has been invaded on two occasions. It is one of the four most beautiful places on earth, and if there's anywhere more beautiful— <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>O'Neill, Mr Greg James</title>
          <page.no>16</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">O'Neill, Mr Greg James</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>16</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">French, Tom MP</name>
              <name.id>316550</name.id>
              <electorate>Moore</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316550" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FRENCH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moore</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:38</span>):  On Sunday morning, I had the privilege of joining more than a thousand members of my community at Sorrento Beach to remember Greg O'Neill. Greg tragically lost his life in a shark attack last month doing something he loved: swimming in the ocean. It was a terrible tragedy that deeply affected his family, his friends and our entire coastal community. But what I witnessed on Sunday was pretty special: hundreds of people dressed in blue, families standing together on the sand, swimmers returning to the water and a community coming together to support one another. Greg's children, Bianca and Keelan, spoke with extraordinary courage. Their message was simple: embrace life, spend time with the people you love and keep doing the things that bring you happiness. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">For so many people in Sorrento, the ocean isn't just somewhere to swim. It is where friendships are formed, where people connect and where community is built. I want to thank the Sorrento Surf Life Saving Club, the volunteers and everyone who helped bring the community together. It is an enormous privilege to represent this community in our federal parliament, and Sunday reminded me of just how fortunate I am to do so. To Greg's family and friends, our thoughts remain with you. And to the Sorrento community, thank you for showing what it means to look after one another.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Banking and Financial Services</title>
          <page.no>16</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Banking and Financial Services</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>16</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Venning, Tom MP</name>
              <name.id>315434</name.id>
              <electorate>Grey</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="315434" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr VENNING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grey</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:39</span>):  Small businesses are the engine room of the country, and Labor is running them into the ground. Taxes are higher, power bills are higher, insurance is way up, and now we have a botched credit card ban. Labor is giving the ATO a taxpayer funded handout, while 30 businesses go bust every single day. That tells you everything you need to know about this Prime Minister and his priorities. Australians were promised a $275 discount on their power bills. Instead, their power bills have risen by 40 per cent. Families cannot keep the lights on because they cannot afford the bills. And this is in the state of South Australia with the highest share of wind and solar in the country.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">More renewables have not delivered the cheaper power that Labor has promised. Take Whyalla. Over half a billion dollars has been written off on the failed hydrogen promise to 'reduce power bills'. Since then we've been through two administrators and hundreds of job losses. We need cheap power, reliable power. We need to scrap net zero and end Labor's economy-killing energy experiment. There is no reason families and small businesses should pay so much for electricity in a country with the abundant energy resources that we have.</span>
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      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Solomon Electorate: Community Events</title>
          <page.no>17</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Solomon Electorate: Community Events</span>
            </p>
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        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>17</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Gosling, Luke MP</name>
              <name.id>245392</name.id>
              <electorate>Solomon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="245392" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GOSLING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Solomon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:41</span>):  Territorian Alison Duguid has taken out Croc Pitch 2026 for her amazing work with North Australian SeaCulture. In its eighth year, Croc Pitch supports some of the Territory's most promising entrepreneurs with innovative ideas to grow and attract investment. It's hosted by the Darwin Innovation Hub and backed by the Territory's own Paspalis Capital, who put up $1 million in venture capital for this year's Croc Pitch. North Australian SeaCulture grows and processes native tropical seaweed and turns it into soil products for mine sites to assist with environmental rehabilitation. The processed seaweed can also be used in gels and thickeners for food, pharmaceuticals and much more. North Australian SeaCulture's first cultivation site is up and running at the Darwin waterfront lagoon. Alison is working with communities across the Territory to realise this opportunity. This Croc Pitch win allows Alison and North Australian SeaCulture to build a new seaweed industry right up there in the north. As she says, 'Where seaweed grows, communities thrive.' Alison is a fifth-generation Territorian with a big idea and the drive to make it happen. Congratulations, Alison. Your Croc Pitch win is very well deserved.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Banking and Financial Services</title>
          <page.no>17</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Banking and Financial Services</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>17</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Hawke, Alex MP</name>
              <name.id>HWO</name.id>
              <electorate>Mitchell</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWO" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr HAWKE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mitchell</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:42</span>):  I rise today to add my voice to all of the small businesses in Western Sydney and Sydney who are suffering under the government's complete bungling of the surcharge fees. We have a government with a Treasury department, a Finance department, the RBA—all of the agencies at their disposal—and they can't work out how to effectively remove the practice of surcharging on consumers. The Prime Minister had the temerity to tell Australians that every coffee would be cheaper, not recognising that not only had his government not properly provided for this but small and medium businesses in most cases would have to increase the cost of every single coffee to cover their expenses, which were still being charged by credit card companies and financial providers.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">And now we hear from the government that their solution is not to get rid of them, not to say, 'Well, we're going to actually ban these charges to small business,' but to subsidise the ATO. Here's a government which bails out big business with taxpayers' money—billions upon billions—because businesses are uncompetitive. They're handing out grants for competition in Australia—paying businesses to compete against other businesses—and now the government are giving a handout to the Australian Taxation Office to administer its surcharge policy. This is taxpayers' money. This is a complete bungling of our economy by the Treasurer and the Prime Minister. Coffee is not cheaper, surcharging hasn't gone and businesses are suffering.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Sturt Electorate: Community Events</title>
          <page.no>17</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Sturt Electorate: Community Events</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>17</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Clutterham, Claire MP</name>
              <name.id>316101</name.id>
              <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316101" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CLUTTERHAM</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Sturt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:44</span>):  Last Thursday I attended the beautiful grounds of the mighty Athelstone Football Club to participate in the 2026 Daniher's Drive. We all know legend Neale Daniher. Whether you're a Melbourne Demons supporter or not, an AFL supporter or not, you are probably a Daniher supporter, and rightly so. Neale, together with his daughter Bec and wife, Jan, took up the fight against MND with courage and humour but most of all with effectiveness. Neil's family are doers. They don't just say they do. Last Wednesday's event was a continuation of Neil's legacy. Fortunately, it was 28 degrees and sunny in Sturt that day, because I participated in the ice bucket relay challenge on the hapless Adelaide Crows team. Although we lost our heat, we were in high spirits, and I can report there's nothing like tipping a bucket of ice water over your own head to really wake up the senses.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">To the Grigg family of the Athelstone Football Club, congratulations on the event. You led something that embodied community spirit and that will make a difference to others. That is true community service. Bec and Jan, having watched you on <span style="font-style:italic;">AFL 360</span> for years, it was truly a privilege to meet both of you and to draw energy from the powerful determination you both bring and will continue to bring to fighting the beast. We can make a difference, whether it's listing tofersen on the PBS or funding medical research. Together, we can fight MND. </span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Banking and Financial Services</title>
          <page.no>17</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Banking and Financial Services</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>17</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Conaghan, Pat MP</name>
              <name.id>279991</name.id>
              <electorate>Cowper</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="279991" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CONAGHAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Cowper</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:45</span>):  October is Small Business Month, a time to celebrate and recognise the contributions that small businesses make to our communities and our economy, or at least it should be. But this tricky treasurer has chosen to turn it into an early Halloween without candy. Sorry, small business, no treats for you, only the fiscal equivalent of egging your shop windows and toilet papering the front door—an unsightly mess that you, through no fault of your own, now pay to clean up. From the government that brought you stalking inflation, punitive taxes and ghoulish IR laws now comes the terrifying sequel 'Nightmare on Card Street'.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">From 1 October, the Treasurer declared that businesses are no longer able to pass on merchant fees charged by banks when their customers pay by card. But banks, of course, are still charging those fees. So, small business, you're now forced to either absorb the cost in your ever-shrinking profit margins or increase your prices. That means prices go up for all your customers, even those paying cash. Just when you thought you could escape the fees, the Treasurer appears in the reflection behind you to make sure you can't. These changes are a tax by stealth that will only force inflation higher while safeguarding the record profits of the major banks. For small-business owners, this is a nightmare they can't wake up from—a treasurer who ignores their screams and continues to tighten the screws.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Health Care: Emergency Care</title>
          <page.no>18</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Health Care: Emergency Care</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>18</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Reid, Gordon MP</name>
              <name.id>300126</name.id>
              <electorate>Robertson</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300126" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr REID</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Robertson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:47</span>):  As a member of parliament and a practising emergency doctor, I have the privilege of seeing our healthcare system from two perspectives: where policy is made and where its consequences are felt. Today I'm proud to acknowledge the establishment of the Parliamentary Friends of Emergency Medicine and Care, which I co-chair alongside the member for Kooyong. This bipartisan initiative provides a vital bridge between clinical expertise and national policymaking, ensuring the voices of frontline clinicians are heard in this parliament.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I particularly welcome the emergency doctors, nurses and representatives of the Australasian College for Emergency Medicine visiting parliament this week. Their visit coincides with the launch of the 2026 report <span style="font-style:italic;">S</span><span style="font-style:italic;">tate of emergency</span><span style="font-style:italic;">:</span><span style="font-style:italic;"> Australia's ageing population</span>. The report examines mounting pressures on emergency departments, particularly access block, prolonged hospital stays and the growing complexity of caring for older Australians. There were a record 8.9 million presentations to nearly 300 emergency departments across Australia, with over 53,000 older Australians spending longer than 24 hours in ED before being admitted to an inpatient bed. Behind every statistic is a patient, a family and a clinician doing their utmost under extraordinary pressure. As someone who's continuing to work in emergency, I know these challenges firsthand. Emergency departments are the safety net of our healthcare system, but a safety net cannot function when the system surrounding it is under strain, because timely, dignified emergency care must never be a privilege.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>18</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Economy</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>18</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chaffey, Jamie MP</name>
              <name.id>316312</name.id>
              <electorate>Parkes</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316312" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CHAFFEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Parkes</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:48</span>):  Once, we were the land of opportunity, but now under this Labor government we are not. Recently I met with a couple from Kickabil who own a family business caught up in the quagmire that is the Albanese government's decision to end the Inland Rail project at Parkes, a decision that has cost them dearly. Unworkable gun laws have made it extremely difficult for small businesses that supply firearms, such as David and Nancy Thwaites at Walgett Hunt Camp Fish &amp; Newsagents. Sam and Sharnah Tomlinson of 2 Rivers Guns &amp; Ammo in Moree have been forced to close their doors altogether. A teacher from the Parkes electorate has written to me about the families who are struggling just to provide lunches and uniforms. A 68-year-old woman from Brewarrina has had to go back to work full time just to pay her rent to stay in her house.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our economy is turning into the saddest circus of all. We've had the Australian Tax Office credit card ban debacle. We've had taxes we were promised more than 50 times we would never have. We've had changes that are slugging Australian family businesses up to $13.3 billion in restructuring and tax advice costs alone, and we know why. It's because there has to be some way to fund the out-of-control spending of this government. We are $1 trillion in debt, and the coalition has a plan. We will lower taxes, we will make power cheaper, we will deliver more sensible migration policy, and most of all—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Claydon</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Member for Bass.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>18</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>248181</name.id>
                <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Bell Bay Aluminium</title>
          <page.no>18</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Bell Bay Aluminium</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>18</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Teesdale, Jess MP</name>
              <name.id>314526</name.id>
              <electorate>Bass</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="314526" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms TEESDALE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bass</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:50</span>):  For 18 months, 550 workers at Bell Bay Aluminium lived with uncertainty about their futures. There were 18 months of wondering whether they could buy a home, start a family or even plan a holiday. But, with our recent announcement, Northern Tasmania can look forward with renewed confidence. A $200 million joint government support package, alongside a five-year power price agreement, provides greater security for 550 workers and also supports more than a thousand jobs right across the supply chain, which will have a huge impact in Northern Tasmania. Throughout these difficult months, I've worked closely with ministers and with the industry to ensure that our workers and our businesses were heard, and Bell Bay's importance to Tasmania and Australia was never underestimated.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Thank you so much for the advocacy and the support to workers from organisations such as BBAMZ, our local councils and businesses throughout the supply chain. I'm enormously grateful to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Minister Tim Ayres in particular for their persistence and their commitment to securing this often hard to see outcome, but we got there and we are so pleased. Above all, I am delighted for my community, for workers who can plan their futures, for businesses that can invest with confidence and for young people that can build their lives in the greatest part of Australia, right in Bass. After so much uncertainty, Northern Tasmania can look forward to the future with hope.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>19</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>19</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Kennedy, Simon MP</name>
              <name.id>267506</name.id>
              <electorate>Cook</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <a href="267506" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr KENNEDY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Cook</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:51</span>):  Recently there was a mother in Sans Souci in tears because she could not pay her mortgage repayments and was losing her house. The sad truth is that this government is partly to blame. There are 43 advanced economies in the world. Australia is the only one of those 43 to have four interest rate rises this year. In Australia right now we have an inflation problem, and there's a choice about how we deal with it. The Reserve Bank can increase interest rates on the one-third of Australians who have mortgages, who cut out nights out, who cut out essentials and who might cut out holidays, or the government can reduce its spending. Treasurer Chalmers spends $1 in every $4 in this entire economy, and while the Reserve Bank is asking Australians at home with four interest rate rises to cut out essentials Treasurer Chalmers is increasing spending at that very same time. That should make every Australian angry, because, right now, when you're reducing your spending while they're increasing interest rates, they continue to increase.</span>
              </p>
              <a href="00AMR" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Ms Catherine King interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="267506" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr KENNEDY:</span>
                  </a>  You might joke about 'if I'm a frontbencher', but you should be focused on the Australian people.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Claydon</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Member for Cook, I've warned you many times before to direct your comments through the chair. I'm not going to allow that to happen.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="267506" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr KENNEDY:</span>
                  </a>  You might need to warn them on interjections.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  Excuse me. I have warned on interjections. I don't need you to coach me in my job. What I need you to do is listen to the advice when provided. That's all.</span>
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                <page.no>19</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Ms Catherine King interjecting—</name>
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                <page.no>19</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Kennedy, Simon MP</name>
                <name.id>267506</name.id>
                <electorate>Cook</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                <page.no>19</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>248181</name.id>
                <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <page.no>19</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Kennedy, Simon MP</name>
                <name.id>267506</name.id>
                <electorate>Cook</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                <page.no>19</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">DEPUTY SPEAKER, The</name>
                <name.id>10000</name.id>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Illawarra: Renewable Energy</title>
          <page.no>19</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Illawarra: Renewable Energy</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>19</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Berry, Carol MP</name>
              <name.id>23497</name.id>
              <electorate>Whitlam</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="23497" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BERRY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Whitlam</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:53</span>):  I am proud that the Albanese Labor government, in partnership with the Minns Labor government, is investing in renewable energy solutions for social housing in the Illawarra to help reduce power bills for social housing tenants. A new pilot program will demonstrate how rooftop solar, home batteries and virtual power plant technology can reduce power bills for social housing tenants in the Illawarra and create a more reliable energy network for our region. The pilot will install rooftop solar panels and batteries on selected social housing properties. This will create an immediate cost-of-living benefit for residents. This program will also deliver the Social Housing Virtual Power Plant pilot to support the rollout of solar panels and batteries for selected social housing properties in the Illawarra Renewable Energy Zone. Virtual power plants connect energy systems across multiple homes, allowing stored power to be used or exported when it's most valuable to households and the electricity grid.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This pilot is part of a recent expansion of the Albanese government's Social Housing Energy Performance Initiative. This initiative has already provided upgrades to around 400 homes in the Illawarra renewable energy zone, including the installation of 136 rooftop solar systems. As Australia's first renewable energy zone, the Illawarra Renewable Energy Zone brings together the energy resources in an urban area— <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Banking and Financial Services</title>
          <page.no>19</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Banking and Financial Services</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>19</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McIntosh, Melissa MP</name>
              <name.id>281513</name.id>
              <electorate>Lindsay</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281513" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mrs McINTOSH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lindsay</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:55</span>):  Labor says it stands with workers, Labor says it backs small business, Labor says it's on the side of ordinary Australians, yet somehow it is always the very people Labor claims to stand for who end up paying the price. However, this government is quite happy to stand up for the ATO and to back the Australian Taxation Office over small business—the ATO that's chasing overdue payments from our small business owners that are doing everything they can to stay afloat.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The government thinks that the ATO isn't going to come after these businesses. They think that surcharges aren't going to be absorbed by the business and then passed on to every single consumer in this country who already can barely pay for their groceries and put food on their family's table. We have Australians that are struggling, but we also have these very small businesses that are the backbone of every single local economy in this country. They are the backbone of this very nation. For a small business, that credit card that they need can be the difference between making payroll and missing it, between getting through a bad month and getting through a bad couple of years under this government and shutting the doors.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Suzanne Adams from Glenmore Park is a great woman in my community. She's a hardworking small-business owner. She's had to raise prices. She's had to cut costs. She's had to work harder. Australia should be a country where having a go gets you ahead, not squashed by the Albanese Labor government every step of the way.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Hunter Electorate: Hospitality Industry</title>
          <page.no>20</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Hunter Electorate: Hospitality Industry</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>20</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Repacholi, Dan MP</name>
              <name.id>298840</name.id>
              <electorate>Hunter</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298840" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr REPACHOLI</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hunter</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:56</span>):  There's a fierce competition in the Hunter over who serves the best pub feed. As a bloke who's never met a schnitty he didn't like, I'm happy to see this and happy to settle it. Our local pubs are making their mark at the AHA NSW Awards for Excellence, with a number of local venues in the running. NINETEEN Hunter Valley is shortlisted for Regional Hotel of the Year and recognised in the Individual Hotel Operator of the Year category. Teralba's Great Northern Hotel is a finalist for Best Innovative Refurbishment. It's great to see a local pub getting a makeover; some of us in here could probably do with one too! We've got three chefs chasing Regional Chef of the Year: Alex Johnson from the Huntlee Tavern, Andrew Cowmeadow from the Great Northern and Roshan Tamang from Bellbird Hotel. Now that's a contest I would happily judge. Just bring me a fork and a reinforced chair, and I'll be there!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Behind every nomination are hardworking publicans, chefs, bar staff and kitchen crews who make people feel welcome. Our pubs bring mates together, support local clubs and give community somewhere to celebrate, catch up or solve the world's problems over a schnitty and a schooie. Congratulations to all of our finalists. Good luck in the awards. You've already made the Hunter proud. I'll be supporting you one schnitty and one schooie at a time, but my belt might disagree with you all. Cheers.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Albanese Government</title>
          <page.no>20</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Albanese Government</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>20</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chester, Darren MP</name>
              <name.id>IPZ</name.id>
              <electorate>Gippsland</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="IPZ" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CHESTER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Gippsland</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Leader of the National Party</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:58</span>):  The Prime Minister said, 'My word is my bond.' Under parliamentary rules, he can't be accused of lying, so let me put it this way: we have a dishonest government. We have a prime minister who told the Australian people 97 times before the 2022 election that power bills would be reduced by $275. It simply wasn't true. Australians are paying 40 per cent more for their energy under this government. Then, in the lead-up to the 2025 election, not one of those people opposite had the guts to tell the Australian people about their plans for capital gains tax and negative gearing. In his own words, the Prime Minister said, he ruled it out not once, not twice but 50 times.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Those Labor MPs opposite all knew the truth, but they knew the Australian people wouldn't vote for them if they actually told them what they planned to do. So they didn't lie. They were mendacious. They obfuscated. They were loose with the truth. They fudged the facts. Every one of them was just a little bit two-faced. Maybe they gilded the lily a little bit as well. They all told little white Albos. They all told little white Albos to avoid telling the truth and delivered a budget filled with broken promises. Australians deserve better than this. Australians deserve better than this dishonest government and a prime minister who is allergic to telling the truth.</span>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Liberal Party of Australia</title>
          <page.no>20</page.no>
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          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Liberal Party of Australia</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>20</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burns, Josh MP</name>
              <name.id>278522</name.id>
              <electorate>Macnamara</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="278522" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURNS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Macnamara</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:59</span>):  Grab your popcorn because the Liberal Party is back at it. Don't take my word for it. Listen to the former member for Kooyong, who said that the Liberal Party is at an all-time low and so things have to change. The question is: will they change to—</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! Resume your seat, Manager of Opposition Business. You know my issue on timing. There have been plenty of times where the Leader of the Opposition has been given the final speech and I have gone over 2 pm. If you'd like me to stop that practice, I can do so.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="278522" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr BURNS:</span>
                  </a>  The Liberal Party is at an all-time low and so things have to change. The question is: does the Liberal Party continue with the support act at CPAC for Pauline Hanson, or do they choose doubling the GST? That's a question that only the Liberal Party can answer. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>20</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.text>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>20</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burns, Josh MP</name>
                <name.id>278522</name.id>
                <electorate>Macnamara</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>CONDOLENCES</title>
        <page.no>20</page.no>
        <type>CONDOLENCES</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">CONDOLENCES</span>
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          <title>Tate, Hon. and Reverend Professor Michael Carter, AO</title>
          <page.no>20</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Tate, Hon. and Reverend Professor Michael Carter, AO</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>20</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:01</span>):  I move:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That the House record its deep regret at the death, on 5 June 2026, of the Reverend the Honourable Professor Michael Carter Tate AO, a former Minister and Senator for the State of Tasmania from 1978 to 1993, place on record its appreciation of his long and meritorious public service, and tender its profound sympathy to his family in their bereavement.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge the enormous contribution to the parliament and to the nation of former senator for Tasmania Father Michael Tait AO. His contribution to our nation was extraordinary in both its breadth and its depth. He excelled as a parliamentarian, minister, diplomat and ultimately as a Catholic priest. As a senator for Tasmania and later minister for justice in the Hawke and Keating governments, Michael helped shape important reforms. In 1987, he played a key role in establishing the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody and initiated a national review of gun control laws. In 1994, he was appointed as Australia's ambassador to the Holy See and to The Hague and represented our nation with distinction, wisdom and dignity.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">So far, this sounds like a distinguished and one might say not atypical parliamentarian's life, but those who remember him know that was certainly not the case. The hint comes in his full later title: Father Michael Tate AO. Members of our parliament often go on to have second vocations after they retire or lose their seats, but I can't think of another whose second vocation was literally a vocation—a religious vocation. There are precedents for priests becoming politicians. Sir Thomas More—the 'man for all seasons', famously—comes to mind. I can't think of another politician who became a priest. It's a measure of the uniqueness of the man.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">His religious vocation wasn't something he decided upon in political retirement. It infused the whole of his adult life and was, in a very literal way, the thing that inspired him to enter politics. As a young man, he aligned himself with the reforming second Vatican council and adopted as his hero and role model the Reverend Martin Luther King—that great believer in peace, justice and nonviolence. It led him to join the Australian Labor Party, because he opposed conscription for the war in Vietnam. Later, like many members of my party, his strong beliefs in pacifism and nonviolence caused him great distress when confronted by the Hawke government's decision to commit Australian forces to the first gulf war. Following his political retirement, he became a trusted spiritual guide to many Tasmanians, and those he knew personally have lost a loyal friend, a valued colleague and a generous mentor.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">There is a story that Michael loved telling. I knew Michael in the Old Parliament House, and he was a great storyteller. In 1996, as Australia's ambassador to the Holy See, he was received by Pope John Paul II in a farewell audience. He recalled how the quite busy Holy Father looked weary and a bit bored. 'Excellency, what is your next assignment?' the Pope asked politely. To which Michael responded, 'Holy Father, actually, I'm going to study for the priesthood.' 'A late vocation,' said the Pope. 'No, Holy Father, an early vocation long delayed,' was his response. I think we might conclude that it was a vocation that he was true to his entire life. Our parliament was and is the better for having such a man for all seasons as a member. I pass on my respects to all who knew and who loved him.</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>21</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Taylor, Angus MP</name>
              <name.id>231027</name.id>
              <electorate>Hume</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="231027" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TAYLOR</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hume</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Leader of the Opposition</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:05</span>):  I thank the Prime Minister for his heartfelt words, and I join him in honouring the life of Father Michael Tate AO. I acknowledge some of the people dearest to Father Tate who are in the gallery today: his brother Richard, his sister-in-law Helen, his niece Monica Biddington and his former adviser and close friend James Gracey.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Michael grew up in Tasmania, as we just heard, in a very warm, caring Catholic household and received a Catholic education. Faith shaped his views and sense of vocation. Studious and well read, he won Commonwealth scholarships to study law at the University of Tasmania and then went on to the University of Oxford. As an undergraduate, he was in a near-fatal car accident, and he said it gave him an unexpected new life. That incident made his faith and his sense of duty burn stronger. Despite growing up in a family that supported the Liberal Party, it was at Oxford that he began to change his political views by opposing the Vietnam War and Australian conscription. Inspired by Martin Luther King, as we just heard a moment ago, he was drawn to the political left, and he joined the Labor Party while lecturing in law.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Honourable members interjecting</span>—</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="231027" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr TAYLOR:</span>
                  </a>  You can't win them all! He stood as a Senate candidate for Tasmania, winning a seat in the 1977 election. His first speech was a strong rebuke of conscription. He said:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">Conscience, I hope, will never be regarded as a disease in Australia … the common good cannot be secured by means which destroy the individual personality.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In 1983, he introduced a private senator's bill to exempt conscientious objection as grounds for military service exemption. When Labor came to power, he was frustrated by his own government's delay in amending legislation, but changes were finally passed in 1992. In finally seeing a freedom he cared for deeply enshrined in law, he declared the victory a most satisfying conclusion.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Under the Hawke and Keating governments, he served as the first Special Minister of State, then Minister for Justice. He implemented new measures to tackle organised crime, drug trafficking and money laundering, and he put forward changes to enforce minimum sentences. He also drafted a new oath of allegiance with an updated pledge of loyalty to Australia and its democratic beliefs. When Prime Minister Paul Keating made frontbench changes, he was overlooked, and, worried about stagnating on the backbench, he left parliament in 1993. The following year, he was appointed as Australia's ambassador to the Holy See and the Hague. And we just heard the exchange with John Paul II, where the Pope said to him, 'This is what you call a late vocation,' in going to the priesthood. But, at the time of his ordination, Michael joked:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I'm trying to practice being docile and obedient and humble, which you might think is not all that easy for a politician …</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Beloved by his parishes he served across southern Tasmania, Father Michael Tate served his country, his community and God with grace, humility and devotion. In June, the priest, pastor, scholar, teacher, diplomat, advocate, pilgrim and visionary was farewelled at a requiem mass by so many who loved him. We extend our heartfelt condolences to Richard, Helen, Monica and James. May God bless you, and may Father Tate rest in peace.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  As a mark of respect to the memory of the Reverend the Hon. Professor Michael Carter Tate, I ask all present to rise in their places.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to, honourable members and those in the gallery standing in their places.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  I thank the House.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>21</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Taylor, Angus MP</name>
                <name.id>231027</name.id>
                <electorate>Hume</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                <page.no>22</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.text>
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                <page.no>22</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
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            </talk.text>
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          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Reference to Federation Chamber</title>
            <page.no>22</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Reference to Federation Chamber</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>22</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for the Arts, Minister for Home Affairs, Minister for Cyber Security, Minister for Immigration and Citizenship and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:09</span>):  I declare that the resumption of the debate on the Prime Minister's motion of condolence in connection with the death of the Reverend the Hon. Professor Michael Carter Tate is referred to the Federation Chamber.</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</title>
        <page.no>22</page.no>
        <type>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</type>
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          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Small Business</title>
          <page.no>22</page.no>
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          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>22</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Taylor, Angus MP</name>
              <name.id>231027</name.id>
              <electorate>Hume</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="231027" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr TAYLOR</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hume</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Leader of the Opposition</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:10</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Small Business. Labor is waging war on small and family businesses. According to reports, Labor's new trusts tax on small and family businesses will cost them $13.3 billion in compliance, on top of Labor's $4.5 billion tax grab. When will this minister start listening to Australians who have a go and stop waging war on small business?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>22</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Aly, Anne MP</name>
              <name.id>13050</name.id>
              <electorate>Cowan</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="13050" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Dr ALY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Cowan</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Small Business, Minister for International Development and Minister for Multicultural Affairs</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:10</span>):  I thank the Leader of the Opposition for his question. His question goes to listening to small businesses. His question goes to whether or not this side of the House and I as the small-business minister go out and listen to small businesses. I inform the House, as I did yesterday, and I inform the Leader of the Opposition, that we do listen to small businesses. Over the last two weeks I've been in regional Queensland, as I mentioned yesterday, and in Darwin—one of my many trips around the country where I hold small-business roundtables with various small businesses. I've heard from small businesses in hospitality, in construction, in farming—right across the board. Small businesses are diverse; there is not one model of small business. They are sole traders. They may employ people. They may be family owned businesses.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's important to me, and it's important to those who sit behind me on this side of the House, to listen to small businesses. I know for a fact that my colleagues on this side of the House are doing exactly what I'm doing. They're out there. They're having roundtables with local small businesses in their areas. They're visiting small businesses. They're talking to small businesses. They're hearing their concerns, and they're bringing their concerns directly to me—unlike those opposite. The only thing that the Leader of the Opposition could do was to cosplay a reel that was put up on social media where he pretended to be visiting a small business instead of actually visiting one.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I reiterate what I said yesterday: we on this side of the House can, do and will continue to consult with small businesses and listen to small businesses, to understand them and to bring their concerns to this parliament.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Opposition members interjecting</span>—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="13050" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Dr ALY:</span>
                  </a>  Those on the other side can talk as much as they like, but they're not out there visiting small businesses. There is absolutely no evidence that they're actually out there talking to small businesses.</span>
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          </talk.text>
          <continue>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>22</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Aly, Anne MP</name>
                <name.id>13050</name.id>
                <electorate>Cowan</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
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        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Women's Economic Security</title>
          <page.no>22</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Women's Economic Security</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>22</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Berry, Carol MP</name>
              <name.id>23497</name.id>
              <electorate>Whitlam</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="23497" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms BERRY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Whitlam</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:13</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations. How is the Albanese Labor government backing working women to earn more, and what are the biggest threats to this support?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>22</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Rishworth, Amanda Louise MP</name>
              <name.id>HWA</name.id>
              <electorate>Kingston</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWA" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms RISHWORTH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kingston</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:13</span>):  I thank the member for Whitlam for her question and her commitment to improving the wages of working women.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Since our government came to office, we have focused on improving gender equality in this country. That is why we put gender equality at the heart of the Fair Work Act, which has allowed the Fair Work Commission to consider historic gender undervaluation across female-dominated industries. The commission's recent decision highlighted that frontline health and community support workers, many of which are women, have not been recognised for the important work they do. These workers deserve to be properly recognised for the highly skilled and demanding work they do in supporting some of the most vulnerable members in our community, and the Fair Work Commission has done this with its decision to award pay increases to many of these workers.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Today, the Albanese government has announced that we will provide funding to organisations that directly provide services on behalf of the Commonwealth to deliver these pay rises. This support is critical to ensuring that organisations can continue delivering critical services while providing pay increases for these hardworking Australians. This morning, I had the pleasure to meet with Sarah, who will benefit from this investment. Sarah said that she and her co-workers have been undervalued for too long and that this must change. I'm proud to be part of a government that is delivering that change for workers like Sarah. Workers like Sarah deserve a government that backs them. Today's announcement builds on our decision to fund pay increases for workers in aged care and early childhood, many of whom are women. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Closing the gender pay gap has been a key focus of this Labor government. I'm pleased to update the House that we are making progress, with the gender pay gap at a record low. This progress hasn't happened by accident. It's the result of a government that is determined to prioritise gender equality. It comes as no surprise, though, that the biggest threat to supporting working women is those opposite. They did absolutely nothing when they were last in government to advance gender equality in this country. Of course, the Liberals, Nationals and One Nation all voted against our laws that put gender equality as a key objective of the Fair Work Act. It is only this Labor government that is focused on supporting working women in this country and delivering the pay increases they deserve.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Budget</title>
          <page.no>23</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Budget</span>
            </p>
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        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>23</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wilson, Tim MP</name>
              <name.id>IMW</name.id>
              <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="IMW" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr TIM WILSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Goldstein</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:16</span>):  My question is to the Treasurer. After driving government spending to the highest level in 40 years and 16 interest rate rises on his watch, the Treasurer's colleagues said: 'There's no point in the Treasurer jumping up and down saying inflation's got nothing to do with government spending. That's clearly not true. It's like he's a used-car salesman.' Will the Treasurer finally admit his out-of-control spending is driving up inflation and interest rates?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order, members on my right. </span>
              </p>
              <a href="316551" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Ms Comer interjecting</span>—</span>
                </p>
              </a>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Petrie will leave the chamber under 94(a).</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">The member for </span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">Petrie</span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;"> then left the chamber.</span>
                </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Do not interject before a minister has even spoken. Do not interject when a minister is about to speak. I'm being crystal clear with everyone on that. The person asking the question should be heard in silence, particularly when people are about to answer questions. It is completely unacceptable. When the House comes to order, we'll hear from the Treasurer.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>23</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>23</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Ms Comer interjecting—</name>
                <name.id />
                <electorate />
                <party />
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>23</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>23</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>23</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chalmers, Jim MP</name>
              <name.id>37998</name.id>
              <electorate>Rankin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="37998" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Dr CHALMERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Rankin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Treasurer</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:17</span>):  Thank you to the shadow treasurer for his rare question! I want to make three points about three recent developments. The first one is that, on Friday night, Fitch reaffirmed Australia's AAA credit rating. That means we've got the AAA credit rating from all three major ratings agencies and are one of only nine countries in the world that has that from the three agencies. That's the first development.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The second development is that, at the end of last month, we released the final budget outcome, which showed that the bottom line for that year was better than what we inherited and better than what was forecast at the election, and it's improved again since the budget. The deficit was $6 billion better than budget—very importantly, almost half of what those opposite left us—and, overall, the budget's $230 billion stronger than what we inherited. As part of all of that, public demand has eased more quickly than expected at the same time as inflation has picked up. That tells us that there are a number of other factors at play. All of those are facts. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The third development is also a fact, and the third development is this: on the weekend, the Leader of the Opposition went to the far-right conference in Brisbane. He had a shot there at Josh Frydenberg when he said—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Opposition members interjecting</span>—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! When the House comes to order, the manager will take his points of order.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  The question had nothing about the opposition in it. Sure, it had used-car salesmen, but it had nothing about the opposition in it. It didn't.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  You need to state the point of order. We're not getting into bad—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  It was relevance.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Yes, I'm aware of that, but we're just going to follow what everyone else does. We're not getting into bad habits. The Leader of the House.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DYW" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Burke:</span>
                  </a>  Mr Speaker, to the point of order, it's frequently been ruled, including by you and by Speaker Smith, that, when there is a preamble like there was in that question, then the doors of relevance open very, very wide, and the Treasurer is completely consistent with what precedent has allowed.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The question was:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Will the Treasurer finally admit his out-of-control spending is driving up inflation and interest rates?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Before we got to that part of the question, there was a quote and there was a comparison.</span>
              </p>
              <a href="231027" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Taylor interjecting</span>—</span>
                </p>
              </a>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Okay, Leader of the Opposition. We're just trying to deal with this. It was a very broad question, with the preamble in there and with, let's call it, 'colour and movement' in the early part of the question. If there's that kind of commentary in any question, there's going to be some pretty colour and movement with the answer as well.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
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                  <a href="37998" type="MemberContinuation">
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                  </a>  I was asked about spending, and I've dealt with that. And I was asked about the views of colleagues, and I'm about to deal with that too. When the Leader of the Opposition went to that far-right conference in Brisbane, he had a shot at Josh Frydenberg. He said one of the big mistakes they made in office was that they made a mess of the budget—that they spent too much money. A lot of our work, in the 4½ years we've been in office, has been to clean up the mess that Josh Frydenberg left behind. That is the fact of the matter. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">When the Leader of the Opposition went to that far-right conference and he made those comments, the thing that he didn't say, when it comes to spending and the question I got from the shadow treasurer, is that those opposite, since the election, have made more than $110 billion in extra, unfunded commitments. That would mean that, if those opposite were in office, the deficits that are currently in the budget would be at least twice as big as they are now, and, by their own logic in the shadow treasurer's question, that would be pushing up inflation and interest rates—by his own logic.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Is it any wonder that the member for Canning is stalking him inside this place? The former member for Kooyong is stalking him from outside this place. Josh Frydenberg thinks the Liberal Party is circling the drain on your watch, and he's right.</span>
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          <page.no>24</page.no>
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              <page.no>24</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Thwaites, Kate MP</name>
              <name.id>282212</name.id>
              <electorate>Jagajaga</electorate>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Jagajaga</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:22</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Social Services. How is the Albanese Labor government supporting the workforce that looks after our most vulnerable? Are there any risks?</span>
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              <page.no>24</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Plibersek, Tanya Joan MP</name>
              <name.id>83M</name.id>
              <electorate>Sydney</electorate>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Sydney</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Social Services</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:22</span>):  I want to thank the member for Jagajaga for her question. I know what a huge supporter she is of the social and community sector workers who do so much work in her electorate. Today, the government announced a historic $630 million investment in the wages of some of our most important workers. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In my portfolio, the extra funding means more support for 500 organisations that deliver supports to 1½ million vulnerable Australians every year. They're the people who pick up the phone in the middle of the night when a woman and her kids are trying to escape from domestic violence. They're the people who work at the Salvos or Vinnies, helping put food on the table when people are doing it tough. They're the workers who help a homeless kid find a place to live that's safe, get back to school and get into the workforce. They're the people who will be helping someone with a disability find and keep a job they love. They're the people who will help a kid who's grown up in a home where they've only ever known violence or trauma recover from that and have a decent life. They're the people who will help someone with their finances if they're in debt when they're problem gambling. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">These are the very best people in the world. The people who are doing this work do it because they love it. They do it because they care for their fellow Australians. They are the very best people in the world, but they also deserve to be able to put food on the table. They deserve a pay rise, and the simple truth is that the reason so many of these workers have been underpaid for so long is that this work has predominantly been done by women, and they've done it from love for their fellow human being. But that is not an excuse to keep underpaying them. I'm so pleased that we are able to say today that these workers will have the pay rises that they deserve, a contribution made by the Commonwealth government. As the minister for industrial relations said earlier, this is a really important step in continuing to reduce the gender pay gap in Australia. We've got the lowest gender pay gap on record, and I congratulate the minister and the Minister for Women for the incredible contribution they've made to lowering that gap and to making sure that we are now eighth in the world for gender equality, up from a low of 50th under those opposite when they were in government. We will continue to support higher wages for the people who are doing this important, meaningful, complex and consequential work, because they deserve nothing less.</span>
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          <page.no>24</page.no>
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              <page.no>24</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">14:25</span>):  I'm pleased to inform the House that present in the northern gallery today are members of the Canberra based Service Adviser and Attache Group representing their countries and militaries. The attache community performs a vital role in fostering enduring international defence partnerships. I'd like to inform the House that we also have members of the Municipal Association of Victoria mayoral delegation, including Committee for Geelong chief executive officer, Kate Coghlan, and participants of the Leaders for Geelong program. The committee aims to develop future leaders from the Geelong area, part of the member for Corangamite's and the member for Corio's electorates. Also present are representatives from the Australasian College of Emergency Medicine, including the immediate past president, Dr Stephen Gourley, and president, Dr Peter Allely. Welcome to you all.</span>
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              <page.no>25</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Boele, Nicolette MP</name>
              <name.id>26417</name.id>
              <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:26</span>):  My question is for the Minister representing the Minister for the Environment and Water. We're heading into an El Nino summer supercharged by climate pollution. Last week the High Court confirmed what's already common sense: climate pollution from our coal, no matter where it's burned, is our responsibility and we should assess coalmine applications accordingly. The application for the largest coalmine extension in New South Wales's history is sitting on the federal minister's desk for decision. Given he's the minister for the environment and not the minister against the environment, when will the federal government reject this enormous coal and climate calamity?</span>
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              <page.no>25</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Bowen, Chris MP</name>
              <name.id>DZS</name.id>
              <electorate>McMahon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McMahon</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Climate Change and Energy</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:27</span>):  I thank the member for Bradfield for the question. It goes to a few issues. It goes to the High Court case, it goes to environmental approval and it goes to action on climate change. If I start with the High Court case first of all, the court case does not relate to a Commonwealth decision. The court case was made quite specifically with respect to New South Wales law. All federal decisions on environmental approvals are made under the EPBC Act, under federal environmental law, so the Commonwealth case doesn't have a bearing on the legality of decisions that are made under federal environmental law. Secondly, as sometimes happens in questions in this place, there's a merging of environmental approvals with the decisions we take on action on climate change, and we use quite different mechanisms, as this parliament has decided to do so and as the member knows. In terms of action on climate change, that's where we use the safeguard mechanism. That's what we've been using to be able to deliver significant outcomes in terms of action on climate change. When it comes to environmental approvals, when the minister works through environmental approvals, the minister has very specific issues to take into account. They're all based on international treaties, largely the powers that are in the EPBC Act, but they are separate to the mechanisms that we deal with with respect to climate change.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">My understanding is that Hunter Valley Operations have proposed an extension. It's an extension to existing mines in previously mined areas. The New South Wales Independent Planning Commission has already given its approval with strict conditions. The state approval does not pre-empt a federal approval; they're separate processes. The National Environmental Protection Agency—I'm very proud to say we now have an EPA; we now have a federal EPA—is currently considering the project and whether it should be approved under federal law. All public submissions and advice from the Independent Expert Scientific Committee will be taken into account before a final decision is made. And, as I'm sure the member would appreciate, while the matter remains under consideration, it's not appropriate for me to comment further.</span>
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          <page.no>25</page.no>
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              <page.no>25</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Smith, Matt MP</name>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Leichhardt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:29</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. How is the Albanese Labor government making sure we shape artificial intelligence in our national interest, and why is this agenda so important?</span>
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              <page.no>25</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:29</span>):  I thank the member for Leichhardt for the question. He certainly understands that artificial intelligence is changing the way that we work, the way that we live and the way that society functions. It'll shift the way that we think about our economy, how we deal with the productivity challenge and how we deal with defence and national security issues as well. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The role of technology itself in government and politics will have a significant impact over coming years. There are massive benefits there, potentially, for governments and businesses to harness. Last night, I spoke at the Australian Industry Group about the potential productivity benefits that will come from a harnessing of artificial intelligence in the manufacturing sector, for example, that the AIG very much represents. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Above all, though, we must be clear eyed that the development and deployment of AI need to serve our national interest and need to reflect our values. Legislating Australian standards for AI is crucial to making that the case. Overnight, the President of Microsoft himself made the point that, at the moment, AI is less regulated than a bottle of milk or a washing machine. And it shows. Right around the world, an unacceptable pattern has developed where companies with AI agents undertaking routine tasks end up breaking out of test environments or accessing restricted systems and data they should never have even attempted to access in the first place. Because, even though frontier agents are the latest development in AI, the fact is they are tools built by humans and they are not beyond that human reach. That is a challenge for us: to make sure that humans stay in charge of this technology. Companies can, and they should, be putting safety first. It is the role of governments to hold them to account. That is how humans remain in control of AI, shaping this change instead of letting it shape us. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our work on these issues spans the work of government and the parliament, as it should. Yesterday, the Joint Select Committee on Artificial Intelligence, updating us on their work to date, wrote to us. There are areas of consensus being worked through, and I thank the members of the committee, both from government and from opposition. I note the member for Curtin, as well, is playing a constructive role in this committee. But I'd urge the entire parliament to engage on these issues. Once again, this is an important issue. It brings the parliament together. It certainly should not be an area of partisanship. It needs to be something in which we all engage as much as possible, because this is a very new development, but it is a revolution that will have an enormous impact on the way society functions. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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          <page.no>26</page.no>
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              <page.no>26</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Chester, Darren MP</name>
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              <electorate>Gippsland</electorate>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Gippsland</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Leader of the National Party</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:32</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. In April, the Prime Minister halved fuel excise with the coalition's support, saying: </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">We are acting now to prepare and shield Australians. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Today, petrol has topped $2.40 a litre and diesel $2.80, hitting families, small businesses, farmers and regional communities hardest. Why won't the Prime Minister live up to his own words, follow the coalition's lead again and implement the coalition's fuel price shield, automatically lowering fuel prices whenever global oil prices spike?</span>
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              <page.no>26</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
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              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:33</span>):  I thank the member for his question. Indeed, April was a time, prior to Easter, where some of those opposite were actually calling for restrictions on fuel. They were calling for the odds-and-evens system to come back. They were saying that there would be shortages of fuel. And, yes, I did a national address that made a difference in encouraging people to not take more than they needed because, at that time, we had a demand surge. What we did was work constructively with organisations such as the business community, the National Farmers' Federation and others to bring together a taskforce that dealt with our states and territories. The primary concern, first and foremost, was to ensure that we had enough fuel supplies. By establishing the mechanisms, by making sure we go out there and purchase fuel on the spot market, we have—in spite of the fact that this conflict in the Middle East and problems with the Strait of Hormuz have gone on for longer than was anticipated when the conflict broke out, when there was talk of it being weeks, but we are now many, many months into this conflict, with no end in sight—ensured that farmers are able to sow their crops and to harvest at the end as well—</span>
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                  </a>  Mr Speaker—</span>
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                  </a>  Just take your seat. I'm going to give you the call, but we're not going to get into—well, I'll state the question. The question was, 'Why won't he adopt a coalition approach and automatically lower prices whenever the prices spike?' The Prime Minister is talking specifically about the prices and the action the government has taken. So it is going to be difficult. I'm just setting the scene, but I'll give the call to the Leader of the Nationals in the House of Representatives.</span>
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                  </a>  On relevance: the Prime Minister has set the context of historical events. He was asked about fuel prices today and whether he would follow the coalition's lead.</span>
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                  </a>  The leader has made his point.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Albanese interjecting</span>—</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Chester interjecting</span>—</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  You can continue with your point, if you've got other points to make.</span>
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                  </a>  I was going to make the point about the Prime Minister interjecting.</span>
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                  </a>  You've been interjecting across, the whole way through!</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Chester interjecting</span>—</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Let's just deal with this in a rational way. Just as we heard from the leader before, we can't pick and choose the part of the question. If you're asking about fuel prices and referring to prices in the past versus today, the Prime Minister is being directly relevant. And he was asked about coalition policy in this question, so he will be entitled to talk about the coalition as well—just so everyone knows and we're all on the same page. The Prime Minister has the call.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr ALBANESE:</span>
                  </a>  Thanks very much, Mr Speaker, I was asked about April. But it is no wonder that they can't find anyone in the National Party to be leader in the House of Representatives! None of them are up to it.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Taylor:</span>
                  </a>  People want to know the prices of things. That's what they want to know</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr ALBANESE:</span>
                  </a>  And the worse he's going, the more he babbles! Now, what we have done is ensure supply. That's the first thing. If you don't have supply, price really doesn't come into it. And they said there wouldn't be supply, in April. But when it comes to the questions, they stand here and ask about fiscal policy and ask about savings, and then they ask, 'Why don't you spend more money?' That is what they are saying. We have made sure we have supply in this country. We will respond in a fiscally responsible way as we go forward, as we always have.</span>
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                  <a href="270198" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms FRANCE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Dickson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:38</span>):  My question is to the Treasurer. Why is it so important that the government is improving the budget and helping with the cost of living? And how does that compare to other approaches?</span>
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        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>27</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chalmers, Jim MP</name>
              <name.id>37998</name.id>
              <electorate>Rankin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="37998" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Dr CHALMERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Rankin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Treasurer</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:38</span>):  Thanks to the member for Dickson for her great question, her big contribution and her outstanding representation of the suburbs of Brisbane. Just a little bit earlier this afternoon the International Monetary Fund released its <span style="font-style:italic;">World </span><span style="font-style:italic;">e</span><span style="font-style:italic;">conomic </span><span style="font-style:italic;">o</span><span style="font-style:italic;">utlook</span> report, and it makes a series of key points. First of all, the global outlook is fragile. Secondly, global supply shocks are becoming more frequent, and the war in the Middle East is evidence of this. And thirdly, the conflict is causing inflation to rise right around the world. It's important to remember that, even though we've got a lot coming at us from around the world, we've got a lot going for us here in Australia as well. We've got faster economic growth than all but one of the major advanced economies. We've had the lowest average unemployment of any Australian government in the last 50 years. We've also got a sliver of gross debt as a share of our economy compared with the major advanced economies. That's because we have made some progress in cleaning up the mess left behind by those opposite and by Josh Frydenberg when they were in office.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Think of it this way. In every single one of our eight budget updates we've had savings—responsible economic management. In Josh Frydenberg's last budget, he had no savings. That's when inflation was higher than six per cent and absolutely rocketing. That's why the Leader of the Opposition rocked up to the far-right conference in Brisbane and said of Josh Frydenberg that he 'made the mistake of spending too much' when they were in office. And now they're calling for more than $110 billion in extra unfunded commitments, and that's before you get to the train wreck of their migration policy costings. It is no wonder that he is being stalked by Josh Frydenberg outside this building. Another reason for that is that this is an opposition leader who calls for lower taxes and then votes against lower taxes. This government is cutting income taxes for workers five times in three different ways. Those opposite have said they want to repeal those tax cuts and they don't want those tax cuts to flow. New figures that we've released today show that nearly 13 million Australians received $700 million in tax cuts in the first quarter of this financial year since our latest round of tax cuts started rolling out on 1 July, against the wishes of this opposition leader.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We are cutting taxes for workers, at the same time as we've made progress on the budget. We know that there's more work to do in the midyear budget update before the end of the year. We know that the global environment is uncertain, we know that we have our advantages and we know that the best way to go about addressing these challenges that are coming at us from around the world is to continue to provide the responsible economic management that this opposition leader would be incapable of and which Josh Frydenberg was incapable of as well.</span>
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          <title>Banking and Financial Services</title>
          <page.no>27</page.no>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>27</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Price, Melissa Lee MP</name>
              <name.id>249308</name.id>
              <electorate>Durack</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249308" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms PRICE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Durack</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:41</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Small Business. The ATO Commissioner of Taxation made the decision to ban credit card payments from small and family businesses on 25 September. He says he informed the government immediately. Yesterday the minister admitted the first she heard about the ATO's ban was on 1 October, the day it became public. Has the minister asked the Treasurer why he kept her in the dark?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>27</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Aly, Anne MP</name>
              <name.id>13050</name.id>
              <electorate>Cowan</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="13050" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Dr ALY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Cowan</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Small Business, Minister for International Development and Minister for Multicultural Affairs</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:42</span>):  I answered questions on this yesterday. I've been clear that small businesses should have been consulted on the credit card ban, and I recognise that the Treasurer acted really swiftly to provide transitional funding so that the ATO can continue accepting credit card transactions until the end of the financial year.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Opposition members interjecting</span>—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! Members on my left!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="IMW" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tim Wilson:</span>
                  </a>  Embarrassing!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Goldstein has been interjecting nonstop during question time. There's an MPI before the House. He's the author of it. I assume the House and the member for Goldstein want the MPI to proceed. To assist the House and to assist him, let's have no further interjections and we can have the MPI.</span>
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          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>27</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>27</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wilson, Tim MP</name>
                <name.id>IMW</name.id>
                <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>27</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.text>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Tertiary Education and Training</title>
          <page.no>27</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
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          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>27</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Gregg, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>315154</name.id>
              <electorate>Deakin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="315154" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr GREGG</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Deakin</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:43</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Education. What is the Albanese Labor government doing to open the doors of universities to more Australians and build the skills Australia needs?</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>28</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Clare, Jason Dean MP</name>
              <name.id>HWL</name.id>
              <electorate>Blaxland</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWL" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr CLARE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Blaxland</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Education</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:43</span>):  I thank my friend the dazzling member for Deakin for his question. Some good news—this year more Australians than ever before have started a university degree. I can tell the House now that the number of students starting a teaching degree this year is up 7.7 per cent, the number of students starting a health degree, and that includes nursing and midwifery, is up 6.6 per cent, the number of students starting a psychology degree is up 9.8 per cent and the number of students starting an engineering degree is up 10.5 per cent. I can also tell you that the number of kids from the bush, the number of kids from the regions starting a uni degree this year is up five per cent and the number of kids from poor families starting a uni degree this year is up seven per cent. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">That's all good news, but it's just the start, because just over an hour ago the parliament passed laws that will open the doors of our universities even wider. It will mean more Aussies get a crack at going to uni, at getting the skills they need and getting the skills that we need. Today, about one in two young people in their 20s and 30s have a uni degree, but that's not the case everywhere. It's certainly not the case in the western suburbs of Sydney where I grew up, where it's about half that. It's the same story in the outer suburbs of Brisbane and Melbourne, our other big cities. It's the same story in the regions where it's about half that. It's even lower in the bush, and that's not because of a lack of talent. Talent is everywhere. It's opportunity that's not. It's this sort of legislation that can help to change that.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">To give you an idea of what's possible, a couple of years ago we passed laws through this place that meant if you're an Indigenous kid and you've got what it takes to take on a university degree then you get a guaranteed place at university. I can now tell the parliament that the number of Indigenous kids starting a university degree since we passed those laws has jumped by 24 per cent. This legislation that we've now passed today does the same sort of thing for all kids from poor families and all kids from the regions and all kids from the bush. It means an extra 230,000 Australians will get a crack at university over the next 10 years. It means more kids from the regions get to study in the regions and stay in the regions and work in the regions. It means opening the doors of opportunity wider. It means more teachers. It means more nurses. It means more midwives. It means more psychologists. It means more engineers. It means Australia gets more of the skills we need. </span>
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        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Veterans</title>
          <page.no>28</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>28</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McCormack, Michael MP</name>
              <name.id>219646</name.id>
              <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="219646" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr McCORMACK</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Riverina</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:46</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Veterans' Affairs and Minister for Defence Personnel. Brave soldier Sean McCarthy was killed by a roadside bomb in Uruzgan province in July 2008. Following his death, Signaller McCarthy's parents, David and Mary, attended ramp ceremonies at Al Minhad Air Base so fallen Australians would not begin their journey home without family present. Inexplicably, David and Mary were not invited to Sunday's Afghanistan commemoration at the Australian War Memorial, but Sean was invited, 18 years after his tragic death. How did the minister get this so horribly wrong?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>28</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Keogh, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>249147</name.id>
              <electorate>Burt</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249147" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr KEOGH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Burt</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Veterans' Affairs and Minister for Defence Personnel</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:47</span>):  I thank the member for his question. Sean's death, like those of the other 46 on the Roll of Honour at the War Memorial whose lives were lost, was due to his service in Afghanistan. All 103 names on the Roll of Honour are tragic deaths, and we mourn them all. In organising the commemorations that were held on Sunday to mark the 25th anniversary of Australia's engagement in the war in Afghanistan, communication was done through the War Memorial to reach out to all next of kin and to invite them to participate in those commemorations. As part of that, what transpired was that some of those contact details were clearly out of date. There were two attempts at trying to contact Mr and Mrs McCarthy because of that. They didn't receive that communication. I learnt of that on the weekend and was very upset to find out that there were parents, family members, that did not receive that invitation, because we wanted to make sure as many family members who lost loved ones through that tragedy, through that conflict, could be there. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I have spoken to David and Mary to pass on my apologies that there was clearly a deficiency in contact details and that they weren't reached out to. I've made sure we now have their contact details. I've also asked that an audit be performed by the War Memorial to make sure that it has up to date next-of-kin details where it can acquire those, and to make sure we do that so that we don't have anything like this happen again with future commemorative services because it's not acceptable. Everyone wants to make sure that we give all families the opportunity to participate in commemorations such as this. </span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cybersafety</title>
          <page.no>28</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Cybersafety</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>28</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Smith, David MP</name>
              <name.id>276714</name.id>
              <electorate>Bean</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="276714" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr DAVID SMITH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bean</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:49</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Communications. What impact does social media have on Australians experiencing eating disorders and body image issues? Why is a digital duty of care so important? What has been the response?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>28</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wells, Anika MP</name>
              <name.id>264121</name.id>
              <electorate>Lilley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="264121" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms WELLS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lilley</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:49</span>):  I thank the member for Bean for his question and for the opportunity to join him at St Mary MacKillop College Canberra to talk to students about their own experiences online. Social media can have a devastating impact on people with eating disorders and body image issues. Toxic and predatory algorithms expose Australians to fitspiration and thinspiration content, blasting images and advice that reinforce unrealistic ideals and harmful behaviour. That is why, building on Australia's social media minimum age law, our proposed digital duty of care calls out material and conduct that encourages, promotes or instructs disordered eating as being harmful to under-18s. Social media platforms, online games and AI chatbots will be required to have systems in place to prevent young people from being exposed to pro-eating-disorder content.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">To make sure companies are following their duty, the eSafety Commissioner and accredited Australian researchers need the ability to check the homework of these platforms—Australian researchers like Dr Rys Farthing of Reset.Tech and Dr Hannah Jarman of Deakin University. Dr Farthing and Dr Jarman conducted a study of 1,204 pieces of pro-eating-disorder content on social media. They created under-18 and over-18 sock-puppet accounts and reported the 1,204 pieces of content on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, X, YouTube and Pinterest to see whether the platforms took them down. What they found was shocking but, unfortunately, unsurprising. On Instagram, only 10.7 per cent of that material was taken down. When reported to YouTube, only seven per cent of the pro-eating-disorder content was taken down. On X, it was 4.5 per cent. This is the kind of mystery-shopping-style test that social media platforms, online games and AI chatbots should be accountable for in Australia. But these Australian researchers had to conduct their study in Italy, in Poland and in Germany, because, right now, in Australia, they have no protection from legal threats.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>That is the kind of transparency and accountability that the coalition want to block when they say sock puppets are an Orwellian spy operation. The coalition have asked for an explanation of why sock-puppet accounts are needed. This is why: to hold these companies to account for the harm they are causing young Australians, to not just listen to what the companies are saying but to check what they are actually doing. This is what the digital duty of care will deliver and why the coalition needs to put politics to the side and work with the parliament to get this done. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Climate Change</title>
          <page.no>29</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Climate Change</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>29</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Le, Dai MP</name>
              <name.id>295676</name.id>
              <electorate>Fowler</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="295676" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms LE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fowler</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:52</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. Prime Minister, you've warned of extreme heat under a super El Nino. I recently visited the Community Cafe in Miller, where families told me every dollar they receive goes to rent and energy bills, so they rely on free food. Yet the national heat-health action plan your government promised three years ago hasn't been released. South-west and western Sydney can be 10 degrees hotter than the east. What is your plan to protect struggling families and small businesses before summer?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>29</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="R36" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:53</span>):  I thank the member for her question, and the Minister for Health and Ageing will respond. The issues that the member raises, of course, go across climate change. She asked about it in her preamble. I have warned—as the emergency management authorities, including NEMA here, have warned—Australians about the period ahead. The super El Nino represents, with the heating of the water in the Pacific Ocean in particular that we are seeing, with those rising temperatures—it will have an impact on weather patterns here. The summer ahead is why we've already war-gamed, if you like, with emergency management authorities in the Commonwealth but also with state agencies to work through these issues as we get ahead. Preparedness in areas in which bushfires in particular can have an impact is very important—that people use this time to do things such as clean gutters and follow the expert advice, to make sure that that moves forward.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In our cities, including in Western Sydney, because of the geography, topography and climate, there can be a capture of heat in between the Blue Mountains and the plains, that occurs to the east of the mountains. Often, that heat that can be captured there can provide quite dangerous circumstances unless it is dealt with ahead. This is just one of the reasons why the government is continuing to act on climate change. We don't question the science; we follow the science, and the science tells us that this is real and that we need to act.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Health Care</title>
          <page.no>29</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Health Care</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>29</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Reid, Gordon MP</name>
              <name.id>300126</name.id>
              <electorate>Robertson</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300126" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Dr REID</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Robertson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:56</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Health and Ageing. How is the Albanese Labor government making it easier for Australians to see a doctor when they need urgent care, and how are Medicare urgent care clinics helping to ease pressure on busy hospital emergency departments across Australia after a decade of cuts and neglect?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>29</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Butler, Mark Christopher MP</name>
              <name.id>HWK</name.id>
              <electorate>Hindmarsh</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWK" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr BUTLER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hindmarsh</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Disability and the National Disability Insurance Scheme, Minister for Health and Ageing and Deputy Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:56</span>):  I thank the member for Robertson, a hardworking emergency doctor on the Central Coast, for his engagement over the course of today with his emergency-medicine colleagues, who are in the chamber today and who have been here delivering their important, valuable report as frontline emergency department doctors. We're looking forward to going through that report, which we'll take very seriously.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The member knows just how important our reforms to strengthen Medicare are, first of all, to delivering better care for Australians in their community and, as his question says, to taking pressure off busy public hospitals. The member is seeing results in his own electorate. Bulk-billing in his electorate is now up by more than 10 per cent because of our investments—back over 90 per cent for pensioners and concession card holders. For those who don't have the benefit of a concession card, bulk-billing is up by a whopping 17 per cent, meaning that more Coasties can go to the doctor when they feel they need to rather than when they feel they can afford to.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The new urgent care clinic at Erina is also making a very real difference. It opened just last Christmas and it's already seen more than 13,000 patients—all fully bulk-billed—and many of them are kids, like Amy's son. Amy wrote to the member for Robertson recently to give him the benefit of her experience. She said: 'I want to say a massive thankyou for the urgent care clinic at Erina Fair. Today, my son sliced his finger open doing woodwork at his high school, and I knew he needed stitches but was worried about clogging up the emergency room at Gosford Hospital. The urgent care facility was incredible for us. We walked straight in and he received seven stitches.'</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Amy's son is one of almost four million Australians now who have gone through our urgent care clinic network since it opened just three years ago. More than two million people will go through the network now that it's fully operating every single year, taking huge pressure off those busy hospital emergency departments we've heard a lot about over the course of today, delivering high-quality care in people's community. And, of course, all you'll need is your Medicare card when you go to one of our 137 urgent care clinics.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">None of this would have happened if there wasn't a Labor government elected last year. The Leader of the Opposition, who described our urgent care investments as 'wasteful spending', had made it very clear that, if they were elected, there would not have been an urgent care clinic at Erina on the Central Coast or in so many other locations across Australia. But we were elected, and so there is an urgent care clinic there and in another 136 locations around the country.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Taxation</title>
          <page.no>30</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Taxation</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>30</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Hogan, Kevin MP</name>
              <name.id>218019</name.id>
              <electorate>Page</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="218019" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr HOGAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Page</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:00</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Small Business. Thousands of hardworking small businesses across Australia, including in my electorate, operate through a trust structure. How many small businesses does the minister expect will pay more tax under Labor's new trust tax, and when was she notified of this tax increase?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Call to the Treasurer.</span>
              </p>
              <a href="300147" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Violi interjecting</span>—</span>
                </p>
              </a>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="37998" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Dr Chalmers:</span>
                  </a>  I haven't got the call yet, genius!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! The Manager of Opposition Business, on a point of order?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  The Treasurer should refer to members by their correct title.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  I agree. It's standing order 64. The manager is correct, and I do enforce correct titles. We don't need descriptors before anyone's name. We don't need anyone to come up with complimentary or uncomplimentary titles at all. We just keep straight to titles. The manager has raised that. We've reminded the House. Now the Treasurer has the call.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="37998" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Dr Chalmers:</span>
                  </a>  I withdraw describing the honourable member as a genius.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Manager?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Tehan:</span>
                  </a>  Speaker, what the Treasurer just did is not helping the House at all.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DYW" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Burke:</span>
                  </a>  Mr Speaker, the minister was not directed to withdraw. He chose to withdraw. It's completely in order for him to do so, and we won't make that mistake again.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Let's just get back to normal transition, and we'll just call everyone by their titles, and we'll just get back to question time. The Treasurer has the call.</span>
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              <name role="metadata">Chalmers, Jim MP</name>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Dr CHALMERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Rankin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Treasurer</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:02</span>):  The reforms that will be introduced in the parliament tomorrow are all about better aligning the tax treatment of income from working with the tax treatment of income from assets. What we have done is we've picked up the concerns that have been raised for decades in various tax reviews, going all the way back to the Asprey report in 1975, the Ralph review in 1999, the Henry review and the coalition's own tax discussion paper in 2015. The reason that we are dealing with this is that the flexibility provided by trusts can allow some Australians to plan their tax affairs in ways that aren't available to most workers and to most families. We recognise that there are—</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Page, on a point of order?</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Hogan:</span>
                  </a>  The point of order is on relevance. Besides the protection racket that's being run on the small-business minister here—</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Absolutely not. You can leave the chamber for that abuse.</span>
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                  <span style="font-style:italic;">The member for Page then left the chamber.</span>
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  I've had enough of people abusing points of order on relevance. I need everyone to show the chamber some respect, not just to use it for some political attacks. The Treasurer was asked about the changes in tax structure. He's deliberately being relevant. We're not going to have that sort of behaviour, otherwise I will start resorting to not taking points of order. I do not want to do that, but, if that behaviour continues by anyone in the chamber, I simply won't take points of order. Do not abuse the standing orders. Do not abuse the chamber. The Treasurer has the call.</span>
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                  </a>  I'm asked about the number of trusts and the number of small businesses. What we've seen in the last 20 years is that the number of discretionary trusts has more than doubled. But, even with that being the case, the vast majority of Australians—somewhere around 95 per cent—don't receive trust income, and less than 10 per cent of small businesses will be affected in any given year by the changes that we are seeking to legislate after tomorrow.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Now, the other really important point is that we have ensured that there are a range of options for all of those small businesses to pay a wage to beneficiaries or to restructure into a fixed trust or into a company with expanded rollover relief, or to choose to be exempt by electing to make fixed distributions. There are a range of options available to all of those small businesses and all of those trusts—rollover relief and other mechanisms—should those people, those small businesses and those trusts, elect to change their arrangements because of the change that we're proposing.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The final point is this: these changes don't come in until the middle of 2028. What we've done is provide the necessary arrangements for people to restructure their affairs, if they would like to do that. But even as it stands right now, less than 10 per cent of small businesses will be affected in any given year by the changes that we are proposing. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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          <page.no>31</page.no>
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              <page.no>31</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Freelander, Mike MP</name>
              <name.id>265979</name.id>
              <electorate>Macarthur</electorate>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Macarthur</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:06</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Housing, Homelessness and Cities. How is the Albanese Labor government delivering more social and affordable homes for Australians who need them, and what other approaches to housing has the government been asked to consider?</span>
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              <page.no>31</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">O'Neil, Clare Ellen MP</name>
              <name.id>140590</name.id>
              <electorate>Hotham</electorate>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms O'NEIL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hotham</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Housing, Minister for Homelessness and Minister for Cities</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:06</span>):  I want to thank the fabulous member for Macarthur for this question. He's one of the most respected people in this chamber, and I really thank him for his advocacy on housing in particular. I've talked to parliament before about the massive scale of our national housing challenge and our government's huge effort of $47 billion of investment to tackle it. Now, since we met as a parliament three weeks ago, we have had another 413 social and affordable homes either completed or reach a major construction milestone. Just in that three weeks, in North Coogee, we had 38 new social homes opened by my friend the member for Fremantle. I took a visit to Geelong, where the Deputy Prime Minister and I opened 77 new homes that have been tenanted from this week. In Marshall, the member for Corangamite and I visited 13 newly completed homes specifically built for women and children who are fleeing family violence. In North Parramatta, there were 66 social and affordable homes opened by the member for Parramatta. In La Trobe, six new social homes were opened by the member for Braddon. In Noarlunga Downs, 48 homes were opened by the Minister for Workplace Relations. In Newtown, three new social homes were opened. In Carseldine, another 150 social and affordable homes reached topping-out stage, and the member for Petrie, of course, was there celebrating this incredible milestone for her community. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I really want to draw the critical contrast, as I was asked to do by the honourable member. I've talked about reaching completion or topping out of 413 homes. That happened in three weeks, and I want to contrast that with the 373 homes that were built in nine years by those opposite. Now we've delivered 7,000 social and affordable homes since we came to government. We've got 22,000 homes that are today in planning or construction. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We know there is a stack more work to do on housing, but these efforts where our federal government is actually rolling up its sleeves and building homes are part of a broader national effort. I want the parliament to know that the latest ABS data showed that we have almost 250,000 dwellings in construction right now around our country. For the parliament to really understand, the number of homes under construction right now in Australia is the highest that it has ever been in Australia's history.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We know that the government building homes is an integral part of this problem. We are loving seeing the private sector market start to really get that engine pumping. This is what delivery looks like, brick by brick, home by home, in every single corner of our country.</span>
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                  <a href="R36" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Albanese:</span>
                  </a>  Mr Speaker, I ask that further questions be placed on the <span style="font-style:italic;">Notice Paper</span>.</span>
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                <page.no>31</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
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                <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
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              <page.no>32</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
              <name.id>DYW</name.id>
              <electorate>Watson</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for the Arts, Minister for Home Affairs, Minister for Cyber Security, Minister for Immigration and Citizenship and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:09</span>):  These documents are tabled in accordance with the list circulated to honourable members earlier today. Full details of the documents will be recorded in the <span style="font-style:italic;">Votes and Proceedings</span>.</span>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">MATTERS OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE</span>
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          <title>Fiscal Policy</title>
          <page.no>32</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Fiscal Policy</span>
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              <page.no>32</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">15:10</span>):  I have received a letter from the honourable member for Goldstein proposing that a definite matter of public importance be submitted to the House for discussion, namely:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">The Government's failure to control its spending addiction, fuelling higher interest rates and higher prices.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I call upon those honourable members who approve of the proposed discussion to rise in their places.</span>
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                  <span style="font-style:italic;">More than the number of members required by the standing orders having risen in their places—</span>
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              <page.no>32</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wilson, Tim MP</name>
              <name.id>IMW</name.id>
              <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TIM WILSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Goldstein</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:10</span>):  When the mums and dads of our nation drive to work every day and they're listening to the radio, they're hearing challenging economic news. They hear of collapsing consumer confidence. They hear of collapses in small businesses and record small-business insolvencies. But what they also hear is the continual stories of the government not being able to control its spending addiction. What they're hearing is the story of an inflation-junkie government that cannot be moved beyond its addiction to spending, higher costs and inflation, which is pushing up interest rates.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">And they've been continually told the con by the used-car salesman in the federal treasurer—by the admission of his own colleagues—that it's all to do with international factors and it's got nothing to do with him. Yet, year on year, the inflation pressure has continued and interest rates have risen. It was only a couple of weeks ago that the Reserve Bank finally said: 'That's it. We can't hold back the wall of inflation anymore.' The minutes of the Reserve Bank that were released today clearly outline that the government cannot continue to be absolved of responsibility, because what we know—what all major economists know—is the government is responsible for the inflation problem across our country. More importantly, every time inflation goes up, interest rates go up.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The government likes to absolve itself of responsibility, but the underlying and sustained pressure on inflation started going up in July last year. This is one of these great myths for the members opposite. They like to say, 'This is because of international factors.' I'll give you a tip. There were no bombs dropping on Tehran in July 2025—in fact, it took until February 2026 before that happened—yet underlying inflation started picking up, and it persisted. That's why, this year, we have had continual interest rate rises throughout the year and there has been more pressure on Australian households, on their mortgages, and more pressure at the supermarket, where people are going to buy the same, paying more and getting less.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is the problem we've now seen consistently under the Albanese government. Because the government cannot control their spending and inflation addiction, Australian households are feeling poorer. They're going backwards. You see it every time the Labor Party turn around and say they're providing tax cuts. Within six months, they're eclipsed by increases in inflation and they've disappeared. So Australians are falling behind, they're paying more and, of course, their real wages are going backwards. That's one of the key reasons why the coalition has promised a tax-back guarantee—to adjust the thresholds and the tax brackets to make sure that the Albanese government's inflation addiction cannot become a pathway for them to increase the volume of tax they collect.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">You just need to look at the package. What has happened? The Reserve Bank has raised interest rates 16 times since Labor was elected—16 times unlucky, for our treasurer. The first time, you might have said it was unfortunate. The second time, you might have said it was an accident. But I can't get to the number of adjectives we'd need to get to 16 times, such is the embarrassment under this treasurer. We know that there's a continued problem around the underlying inflation rate being at 3.6, and, as I made the point, it's been stuck there for quite some time. The government sit around and say, 'It's got nothing to do with us; it's all got to do with factors overseas,' even though it started creeping up in July of last year.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We know that Australia's cash rate is higher than that of the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the euro area—basically, the advanced world. Of course, we also know that we've seen the biggest collapse in living standards in the advanced world under the Albanese government. What's even more distressing for Australians, as they drive to work and hear about the conditions that they're living the realities of, is that, under this government—because it is stuck in a situation of denial, because it will not admit it is at the heart of the problem and because it continues to look at every single vein to tap more inflation in—there is a risk that there will be further increases in interest rates this year and next year, and Australian households will fall further behind. You don't even have to believe me. The Reserve Bank has said that it will do whatever is necessary, including increasing the cash rate further, to target inflation. They have already forewarned the Australian people that, if the Albanese government doesn't change its fiscal course, Australian households will suffer. And today we had an international report card from the IMF that said, again, that the government's addiction to spending is pushing up inflation and cooking up interest rates.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's even worse. We've now set this record—and it is not something to be proud of—of not just increasing inflation under the Albanese government but also rising unemployment. What an incredible achievement by this government! Normally, you get one or the other. But to get both of them, to get stagflation at the heart of the economy, is a complete disaster for Australian households. And the numbers are—</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Dr Chalmers interjecting</span>—</span>
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                  <a href="IMW" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr TIM WILSON:</span>
                  </a>  Thank you, Treasurer. Thank you, used car salesman. That was a real con job you sold to the Australian people. And what are Australians now doing? Australians are paying more just to keep a roof over their head. With the cash rate now being passed on, a family with the average new mortgage of $731,000 is paying about $31,000 a year more in interest than they were when we were last in office. How proud the government must be to continue to increase the pain and the suffering of Australian households! Monthly repayments and the average new mortgage have risen to about $4½ thousand, and the average variable mortgage rate has doubled from 3.1 per cent at the 2022 election to 6.2 per cent. And, as we know, as Australians are driving their cars and they're listening to the radio, the International Monetary Fund is saying, 'It's not over yet.' The Reserve Bank is saying, 'It's not over yet.' Australians are terrified of what this government's active inflation agenda is going to do, and they're terrified that, until we see a change in government and economic policy, they will continue to fall further behind.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">And it's not just in their mortgages on a monthly basis. When Australians go to the supermarket, they experience the price of inflation. As they go to the till and swipe the products and see the full bill, they know, when they look in their red basket or their trolley, that they're getting less and less for the dollars they have. The bill goes up, but the amount of food they can take home to their family goes down. And the numbers are very clear. Since the 2022 election, food prices have risen by 18 per cent: bread, 22 per cent; cheese, 22 per cent; coffee and tea, 24 per cent; and eggs, a basic staple of a kitchen, 37 per cent. And that continues to cascade throughout the entire economy. As Australian households are getting poorer, their wages are going backwards and their mortgages are rising. When you say these things, most of the members on the other side of the chamber are utterly dismissive. One of our favourites, of course, is the Minister for Small Business. When she can figure out what her job is and how she can get her way to the despatch box, when she's told about the problems facing small business she has one answer: 'Maybe they were dodgy.' She doesn't understand that, actually, record small business insolvencies aren't because businesses are dodgy. It's because the government's dodgy and can't control its spending addiction. And the Treasurer is a used car salesman, according to the members opposite.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But what we know is that this con will end. Australians are living the consequences of the Albanese government and their inflation addiction. Australian households know the impact of the government's policies. They're living the 24 per cent increases in rent. They're living the 43 per cent increases in the cost of insurance, the 37 per cent increases in electricity prices and the 44 per cent increases in the cost of gas. They're living the $31,000 a year more in interest payments just to keep a roof over their head. This government has betrayed and sold out the Australian community, because it cannot control its inflation, its spending addiction, and Australians are poorer for it. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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                <page.no>33</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Dr Chalmers interjecting—</name>
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                <page.no>33</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wilson, Tim MP</name>
                <name.id>IMW</name.id>
                <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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              <page.no>33</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Mulino, Daniel MP</name>
              <name.id>132880</name.id>
              <electorate>Fraser</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  <a href="132880" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr MULINO</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fraser</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Treasurer and Minister for Financial Services</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:20</span>):  We've just had 10 minutes of rhetoric, 10 minutes of talking the talk, from a party that, when they were in government, did not walk the walk. There is absolutely no indication that this group in opposition have changed. There's no indication that they're going to walk the walk any time in the near future. They continue to block savings. They continue to commit to unparalleled levels of unfunded spending. What we've seen from those opposite is a willingness to raise the issue of economic responsibility but no willingness to actually commit to practising it, no willingness to commit to the hard work of delivering it.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our government has demonstrated a willingness to support people who we know are in many cases doing it tough. We've done this in a wide variety of ways. This government has committed to and delivered tax cuts for every taxpayer this year and next. When we get through those tax cuts for every taxpayer, this government will have delivered tax cuts five times in three different ways. And almost all of those tax cuts will have been opposed by those opposite—and not just opposed; they went to the last election with an explicit policy of unwinding two of those tax cuts for every Australian taxpayer.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This government is committed to and is delivering cheaper medicines, more bulk-billing and record hospital funding. It's committed to urgent care clinics, and I've seen two of them in my electorate, delivering help to people day in, day out. I know some of those opposite very much support this policy. I know they support it—not all of those opposite, but I know there are some in particular on the other side who do. This government is committed to higher wages and fairer pay for Australian workers. We've seen that through support for minimum wage increases. We've seen that through increases for workers in the care economy—15 per cent increases for those in early learning, 15 per cent for those in aged care—again, opposed by those opposite and opposed by One Nation.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We're committed to more social and affordable housing and helping first-home buyers get into the market with five per cent deposits, as well as free TAFE, slashing student debt and expanding paid prac. And free TAFE and expanding paid prac is so critical. Not only is it a measure of fairness; it's a cost-of-living measure. It's also a supply-side measure. It also means getting more skills into the economy. It's helping our economy move from where it is to a place where there is downward pressure on inflation. So it ticks all those boxes. We've also supported measures to provide a fairer deal at the checkout, including action against supermarket price gouging. This government has delivered a 10-fold increase in the maximum penalty for price gouging. It sat stable for the almost decade that those opposite were in power. We've increased it 10-fold, as well as increasing funding for the ACCC to look into priority sectors.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Almost all those measures I've just run through are measures to give people higher pay, measures to give people tax cuts to keep more of what they earn, measures to support people through cost-of-living supports—almost all of them opposed by those opposite. But they will come in here with faux outrage about how people are doing it tough and then oppose practical measures to help people. We've put in place serious measures to reform the tax system which for too long have been on the to-do list, such as changes to negative gearing and capital gains tax, which will mean we are tilting the property market back in favour of younger people, back in favour of first-home buyers. We are removing from the housing market longstanding distortions that for too long have seen, over recent decades, house prices gallop ahead of incomes and have seen homeownership rates for younger people, for young families with dependants, falling rapidly. We need to undo that. We need to reverse that. In the last budget we put in place significant benefits in the tax system for small business, making the instant asset write-off permanent. They've been calling for that for a long time; we're the party that delivered it. We're also putting in place loss carry-back measures.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But it's really when it comes to measures to support taxpayers that the difference between the two sides is the most stark. We're delivering tax cuts for every Australian taxpayer, commencing 1 July this year and again from 1 July next year. This means that, when you look at all of the different measures, including the instant deduction and the different tax cuts and the WATO, there is a total of up to $2,816 for the average worker. That is a significant reduction in the tax burden for those on average wages. Again, almost all the elements of that were either not supported or opposed by those opposite.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Let's contrast this with what those opposite are putting forward. They oppose almost every cost-of-living measure. They went to the last election with an explicit promise of higher taxes, and that was, not surprisingly, rejected by the Australian people. But what they've done since the last election is in many ways even worse. The tally so far is around $110 billion in unfunded spending commitments. They come into this place—and we saw this with the last contribution—with the rhetoric of fiscal responsibility, but, every time you turn around, there's a new, huge, unfunded spending commitment and a significant increase in gross debt over the next decade as a result of their overall fiscal settings. This is what we're seeing from those opposite—rhetoric not matched with the actual policies they're putting to the Australian people. Just in question time today, again, they talked about fiscal responsibility and put questions to this side of the House pushing for more spending. It shows the inconsistency between their rhetoric and what they actually deliver in this place. The Australian people will see through this.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The budget as it stands is around $230 billion better off compared to the situation that we inherited—compared to the trajectory that we inherited. That reflects two budget surpluses delivered. That reflects the fact that in the last budget we delivered over $60 billion in saves and reprioritisation. Those opposite talk big, as we saw in the previous contribution, but they don't deliver. That significant improvement in the budget situation means that, because of what we've done over four budgets, there'll be less debt for future generations, which is all the more important.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">What we're seeing also from those opposite is an internal debate now playing out, in a way. It's quite remarkable. The former Liberal treasurer, Josh Frydenberg, has a book out in which—and this is one part of it I can sign up to—he roundly criticises the current leadership of the opposition and says it's just not good enough. It's going through a trough. There's an existential crisis. But where I differ with the former treasurer is where he proposes a sharp uptick in the GST. This lines up with what the previous speaker said. His contribution didn't mention this, but in his inaugural speech he backed in a 20 per cent GST—a doubling of the GST. The approach being supported by the prospective leader who's outside the chamber and the shadow Treasurer is a massive hike in the GST. What is that going to do to the cost of living? What is that going to do to inflation? Is that seriously the response to inflation that those opposite are now going to work up? Do those opposite think that petrol is too cheap and that we need to put a GST on it? Do those opposite think that construction costs in this country are too low and we need to add a GST onto them? Do they think that restaurants and takeaway food are too cheap and that we need to whack a GST onto them?</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Let's see how this debate unfolds in the opposition. One can see that there are a range of views amongst those opposite. There are a range of views as to where taxes should go, but what isn't consistent across the positions being put by those opposite is exactly which taxes should be increased and how. What is absolutely clear is that those opposite do not support cost-of-living supports. They went to the last election with higher taxes. Now we have a former treasurer suggesting a hike in the GST, and the current shadow Treasurer has in the past supported, on the public record, an increase in the GST. It's very unclear how those opposite would, in any meaningful way, reduce cost-of-living pressures on people in the community. It really is the same old Liberal Party.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This government has delivered concrete support for people. We have, through a range of measures, seen people's wages increase, particularly those in the bottom quintile. We've seen people on the minimum wage get supports, and we have backed those in. We have seen people in industries where there have been longstanding needs for wage increases, including in the care economy, get significant pay increases, and this government has backed those in; this government has funded those. We've also supported cost-of-living measures in a range of ways, including through cheaper medicines, right across the economy. Those opposite have opposed it at almost every turn. Instead, they now have over $100 billion in unfunded spending. It just won't work. </span>
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              <page.no>35</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Kennedy, Simon MP</name>
              <name.id>267506</name.id>
              <electorate>Cook</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
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                  <a href="267506" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr KENNEDY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Cook</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:30</span>):  Cost of living is not a problem in Australia right now; it's a symptom. It's a symptom of poor budget and economic management. It's the nightmare millions of Australian mortgage holders and small businesses are living, while this government lives its dream. Right now we have the highest ever number, in Australia's history, of small and medium businesses going bankrupt. The number has never been higher since we started keeping records. We have mortgage holders right now who've had four interest rate rises this year. I've seen them in tears, losing their house—one woman, in particular, who could not make her mortgage repayments. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There are 43 advanced economies in the world. They're basically every country you'd want to live in. Only one of those 43 advanced economies has had four interest-rate rises—just one—and that's Australia. The truth is that we have an inflation problem in Australia, and the truth is that this pre-existed the war in Iran. Of those 43 countries, we had the third highest inflation prior to the war in Iran. We already had a domestic homegrown inflation problem. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There are a couple of ways we can deal with this. The Reserve Bank can raise interest rates four times, as I just talked about, and the one third—Australian mortgage holders—are forced to cut their spending. They're forced to forgo nights out and holidays away, and many of them cut back on essentials. Some of them are forced to give up their houses. That's one way. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The other way is this. More than one in four of every dollar spent in this country is spent by Treasurer Chalmers; it's spent by the federal government. That's one in four—at the very time we're asking one third of Australians to cut their spending. This group is bearing all the brunt, along with the Australian business owners. Treasurer Chalmers over here, spending one in four dollars in the economy, is actually increasing his spending, while you at home are being forced to wear rate rise after rate rise and cut into essential after essential. The Treasurer is actually increasing his spending, and you deserve to be angry about that. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I recently had a small business forum of 100 small businesses in Cook last week. These people feel betrayed by the government—absolutely betrayed. They are now the highest taxed generation in Australia's history. And it's not just me who thinks this. Just earlier today, the former chief economist of the ANZ, Mr Hogan, said about interest rates right now—and, sadly, it's going to get worse—'The reality is the interest rate probably does need to be up around five or higher. That would take at least another two hikes. We're probably going to need a cash rate around five, but there is a better way. And the governments of Australia, state and federal, had the opportunity earlier this year in their budget to pull back on their spending.' He went on to say: 'They're all looking to grow at around three per cent real this year and, of course, the economy can only grow at two. And the RBA needs it to grow at like one and a half to get inflation down. So governments are actually not doing anything to show restraint, and forcing the rest of us to show restraint. And, if we don't, the RBA is going to force us.' He then went on to explain that there is a better way, and that is for the governments of Australia to cut their spending—their recurrent spending and their investment spending—as much. That's from the former chief economist of the ANZ Bank.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Treasurer should come into this chamber now and tell us how he is going to cut his spending, so the one-third of Australian households who are struggling and those 15,000 small business owners who have gone bankrupt this year do not need to cut theirs. Some of these people are in tears around dining room tables in Australia, realising they're losing their house, they're losing their business, while this guy in here continues to increase his spending. Well, it's not good enough.</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>36</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chesters, Lisa MP</name>
              <name.id>249710</name.id>
              <electorate>Bendigo</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                  <a href="249710" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CHESTERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bendigo</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:35</span>):  I do find it extraordinary that the opposition have put forward this MPI this week, when the media is nicknaming this week the 'Festival of Josh'. Josh Frydenberg, the former treasurer, has put out his book acknowledging the mistakes he made when he was treasurer of this country. He has acknowledged that, when he was treasurer, he spent way too much money; that the stimulus they provided during the COVID pandemic and the payments they rushed out the door weren't targeted enough; that money went to businesses that weren't laying off workers and that, particularly in relation to JobKeeper, they spent too much money. Those bills have come in. Josh Frydenberg's bills are what we inherited. That debt is what our government is addressing.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">When we were in opposition, we raised these concerns. We stood in this parliament—or via the special ways in which we could participate in the parliament at the time—and warned the government of the day that money was going out the door to businesses that did not need it. It was going to workers who weren't properly entitled to it. It wasn't targeted enough. Yet other sectors missed out, like universities and so on and so forth.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Those bills are now in, and we are now looking for ways to pay down their debt. That is why, in government, our treasurer and our government have found over $180 billion in savings since coming to government. That is how we are addressing the debt that we inherited from those opposite. And that is not all we are doing. We recognise that times are tough in Australian households, which is why we have delivered targeted support to households through tax cuts for every worker this year and next, delivering real support to household budgets.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We are delivering cheaper medicine that help everybody when they are sick. We are making sure that we have more bulk-billing and record hospital funding, because it is so critical to people that, when they are sick, they don't have to rely on what is in their bank account to get health care. That is how we are delivering targeted support to those who need it. Those aren't costs that people in my electorate are saying they want us to cut. They want to know that when they are sick their government is there to help them through bulk-billing, through cheaper medicine and through properly funded hospitals.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We are supporting higher wages for workers and making sure that there is fairer pay for workers, particularly those in female dominated industries that were the heavy lifters during COVID that got overlooked. I'm talking about our aged-care workers, our early childhood educators and our disability workers, and, as we announced today, how we are backing the Fair Work Commission's decision to fund a wage increase for predominantly women working in our community not-for-profit charity sector: people who support others in crisis with housing, who are in crisis and need emergency food relief, or who are fleeing family and domestic violence. These are people who do the work because of the care they have for the community, and we are now backing their pay increase. Yet those opposite are saying we're spending too much. We have the priorities right for the Australian people and are making sure we are backing those who back our community.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We are also making sure that we have extended paid parental leave to a full six months and that it is a shared opportunity for parents to access. We are building more social and affordable housing and helping first home buyers get into the market with not just our tax reforms, but our five per cent deposit scheme. Our free TAFE is skilling up the workers that we need for our future, giving people the opportunity to change careers or to start their career in a profession that they want without having to find the money for the fees. It was $22,000 for an enrolled nursing diploma in Bendigo prior to our government's free TAFE commitments. We are now seeing people going into nursing because they want to nurse, not because they have the money in their bank account. We've slashed student debt and we're expanding paid prac. These are the changes that we are making to support households with targeted support that is needed, not more rhetoric from those who created the problem that we are now addressing in government.</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>36</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Penfold, Alison MP</name>
              <name.id>248895</name.id>
              <electorate>Lyne</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248895" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms PENFOLD</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lyne</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:40</span>):  The Treasurer told Australians the worst of inflation was well and truly behind us. Tell that to a family whose mortgage repayments have just risen. Tell that to a pensioner frightened to open their electricity bill. Tell that to a small-business owner wondering whether they can keep their doors open. Australians are working longer hours, paying steeper bills and still finding themselves falling further behind. While families are forced to tighten their belts, this Labor government refuses to do the same. It refuses to honestly confront reality. It refuses to confront the hardship it has thrown Australians into. We are caught in the jaws of a cost-of-living crisis, watching living standards plummet and interest rates rocket to their highest in 15 years. The government has lost control of inflation because it has lost control of its spending, and it is everyday Australians who are left to pick up the tab.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Since Labor came to office, gas prices have risen 44 per cent, insurance 43 per cent, rent and housing 24 per cent, bread and cheese 22 per cent, coffee and tea 24 per cent and eggs a whopping 37 per cent. These are not luxuries but the unavoidable price of simply making it through each day. Let me lay bare just how real this pain is with some hard numbers. A family with an average new mortgage of $731,000 is paying about $31,000 a year more in annual interest than when Labor came to office. In my electorate of Lyne, families feel this pressure every single day. How much more does this government expect them to give up?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This government is squeezing small business from all sides. Their borrowing costs are higher; their insurance is higher; their electricity is higher; their wages, rent and compliance costs are higher; yet their customers have less and less to spend. Now they face the fiasco of the credit card surcharge ban. Regional business owners are rightly furious. Thanks to this government, small business has been forced to shoulder the burden of card processing fees, whilst the banks and payment providers are allowed to pocket their fees. It begs the question: what did Australian businesses do to become the enemy of the state and the ATM for the Labor Party? What exactly does this government have against small business? Where will they get their much-needed revenue from if these small businesses inevitably have to shut their doors?</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Then the Australian Taxation Office made an extraordinary proposal to stop accepting credit card payments from December. For businesses facing tens of thousands of dollars in BAS and PAYG liabilities, credit cards provide a vital short-term cash flow buffer. The government has now delayed that decision following an outcry. But what does this decision say about this government's understanding of small business? It says that they don't understand it at all. How could they when none of them in cabinet has business experience, including, unbelievably, the Treasurer? Small businesses are told to swallow even more costs, all while losing the flexibility they depend on to survive.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">What makes this even more maddening is that the government demands restraint from everyone except itself. Commonwealth spending is at a 40-year high, excluding the pandemic. Gross government debt is over $1 trillion. Productivity has fallen around five per cent under Labor. What always follows when government spending runs wild? We get runaway taxes and runaway debt because every dollar Canberra spends has to come from somewhere. Australians do not have a spending problem; Labor does. Had Labor simply kept spending under control, the latest budget outcome could have been a $22 billion surplus instead of another damning deficit. But Labor keeps spending, keeps borrowing and keeps feeding the bureaucracy.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The coalition believes government must live within its means. That means controlling spending growth, cutting unnecessary bureaucracy, reducing corporate welfare and restoring productivity. Australians should not be forced to work harder, sacrifice more and pay higher taxes just to bankroll a government that refuses to rein in its spending. Once again, this government has proven it is way out of its depth. It has proven it does not know how to manage the economy. It has proven that it only knows how to take, take, take—take your money, take your economic security and tear this country down. </span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>37</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Clutterham, Claire MP</name>
              <name.id>316101</name.id>
              <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316101" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CLUTTERHAM</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Sturt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:44</span>):  Every government faces the same complex challenge. Resources are finite, and need and expectations are not. Australians rightly expect governments to help keep inflation under control, to pull what levers they can. Australians also expect governments to fund healthcare, strengthen Medicare, provide dignified and quality care to older Australians, support housing, provide a social safety net, invest in defence and respond when communities need support. The real challenge of governing is balancing those priorities responsibly. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian people understand this. This understanding is reflected in the many conversations I have with people in my electorate of Sturt every week. People understand the need to provide for others less fortunate than they are. They understand that decisions need to be made now which may not appear to have a short-term gain but which are creating the building blocks for long-term prosperity and long-term social cohesion and harmony. They understand there are trade-offs, forgone benefits and compromises that the government has to work through every day. That means recognising that every decision has an opportunity cost. Every dollar spent is a dollar that cannot be spent elsewhere. Equally, every dollar not invested can carry consequences for Australians who rely on essential services or consequences for the long-term strength of our economy. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">That is why the Final Budget Outcome this year was so important. It demonstrated that the 2025-2026 position was $6 billion better than forecast. It showed that over four years the budget position has improved by around $230 billion. Gross debt is almost $200 billion lower than projected when this government came to office. Australia has one of the lowest levels of gross debt across advanced economies. This is the result of a government making deliberate choices, finding savings, reprioritising spending and returning the majority of revenue upgrades to the bottom line. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">When this government came to office, inflation was above six per cent and rising. While inflation has moderated significantly, there is no question that it remains higher than what we would like. Inflation is not solely an Australian phenomenon. Global economies are facing supply chain disruptions, energy shocks and geopolitical instability. Conflict in the Middle East has put upward pressure on global fuel prices, affecting inflation outcomes across advanced economies. Now when constituents talk to me about the cost of groceries or fuel or insurance, they understand that global events are playing a role. This does not absolve governments of responsibility, and, in this respect, this government has repeatedly been very clear that it has a role to play in the fight against inflation. We've been honest about the combination of factors that drive inflation, and we've been clear about what tools we have available to address it. What this all means is that governments must act responsibly in the areas they can control, which includes the budget. This is what this government has done and will continue to do. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">At the same time, fiscal responsibility cannot mean abandoning the services Australians depend on. Those who call loudly for governments to cut spending never outline how they will address the risks of this. The first risk, significantly reducing government support, risks stagflation and a recession and would certainly make responding to other recessionary forces more difficult. The government needs to be careful to manage this significant risk with all of the attendant economic and social costs that would bring with it. The second risk is that the policymaking process has limited bandwidth. Policymakers cannot address all issues at once, and good policy making is about prioritisation, not just offering up a wish list of things to cut risk. The third risk is that building future initiatives will get overlooked. Cutting spending on programs supporting health, R&amp;D, education, the social safety net and the care economy means the economic circumstances of Australians who are already at a higher risk of falling behind will worsen. This is not fair, and this lack of investment will leave future generations with a higher debt burden. There is an opportunity cost to inaction. Good government requires difficult trade-offs and balancing budget discipline with a community's legitimate expectation that government will deliver essential services and invest in the nation's future. Responsible government is what we are practising. That is what we are doing.</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>38</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Garland, Carina MP</name>
              <name.id>295588</name.id>
              <electorate>Chisholm</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="295588" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr GARLAND</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Chisholm</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:50</span>):  I'm really pleased to speak on this matter of public importance today, a matter that goes directly to the cost-of-living issues that we on this side of the House know families are facing across Australia. We know that there are a lot of people doing it tough, feeling under pressure, and that's why we've been working really hard to relieve that pressure. At the outset, it is really important to remember the circumstances we inherited when we came to government. I acknowledge the member for Bendigo's contribution. She reminded us of the destruction wrought by those opposite when they were in government, particularly by the media personality Josh Frydenberg, the former member for Kooyong.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Before entering this place, I had countless conversations with people in my electorate about the pressure they were under when those opposite were last in government. Household budgets were stretched, inflation was running at more than six per cent and rising, and many Australians were worried about how they were going to get ahead. I remember very distinctly standing alongside the now Prime Minister during the 2022 election campaign when he backed a pay rise for some of Australia's lowest paid workers. At the time this statement was mocked, with the coalition absolutely outraged at the notion that the lowest paid workers in this country deserved a pay increase to keep up with the cost of living. So the reality was, when we came to government, inflation was rising rapidly and Australians were paying the price. When we were elected, we got to work, bringing inflation down from its peak while creating more than 1.3 million jobs and delivering the lowest average unemployment of any government in half a century. That is real progress, particularly given the challenges facing the global economy.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Good governments, though, know that there is always more work to do. The job is never done. Inflation remains higher than we would like. Family budgets remain under pressure, and global uncertainty continues to weigh on economic conditions. That's why our government continues to focus on providing practical and targeted cost-of-living relief while maintaining responsible economic management, delivering tax cuts for every taxpayer, cheaper medicines, more bulk-billing and record hospital funding. A healthy society is the No. 1 job of a good government.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We've expanded Paid Parental Leave, delivered free TAFE, reduced student debt and introduced paid prac. I note that the Assistant Treasurer commented on the economic investment, not just in the delivery of cost-of-living relief packages like free TAFE for individuals but for how these educational opportunities are actually helping to build our economy into the future. We're helping more Australians achieve the dream of homeownership, and we've backed higher wages for nearly three million of Australia's lowest paid workers every year, which has seen the national minimum wage rise by over $12,079 per year. We know that these measures aren't going to solve every single challenge overnight but they are providing real support where Australians need it most—through cost-of-living measures.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's also about ensuring people earn more and keep more of what they earn. I wish those opposite would support that notion, but the record shows that they do not, and I suspect that they will continue to not support that notion. We've always done what we can to target the cost-of-living measures at every single budget. We know, too, how important it is that we support those who support our communities and that's why it's really excellent to see that health, disability and community services workers are going to benefit from fairer pay after the Fair Work Commission found that work in these sectors has been historically undervalued. Placing gender equality at the centre of our workplace reforms has meant that our cost-of-living measures have allowed families to do better, when they are able to have more women return to work. Greater access to early childhood education has been a key part of that.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We know there's more work to do. As I mentioned before, any good government would recognise that the job is never done. I know those of us on this side of the House stand absolutely ready to do what we can to make sure our communities are not left behind.</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>39</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Venning, Tom MP</name>
              <name.id>315434</name.id>
              <electorate>Grey</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="315434" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr VENNING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grey</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:55</span>):  Forty-six years ago, while debating President Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan made points that hold true today. He said:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">We don't have inflation because the people are living too well. We have inflation because the government is living too well.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The same is true in Australia today. It's not Australians who are living too well; it is this government. Two weeks ago the Reserve Bank raised the cash rate to 4.6 per cent, leaving Australians paying more for their mortgage than at any time in the past 15 years. And let us not forget what the Treasurer told Australians before Labor was elected. In May 2022 he went on national television and had this to say about mortgages: 'We've got a plan that we're releasing today about cheaper mortgage repayments.' But let us not forget what the cash rate was on the day the Treasurer promised to make mortgages cheaper. It was 0.1 per cent. Today it's 4.6 per cent.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Since Labor was elected the Reserve Bank has raised interest rates 16 times. I'm going to repeat that: the Reserve Bank has raised interest rates 16 times under this Labor government. So Treasurer, what is your plan for cheaper mortgages now? The average variable mortgage rate has doubled, from 3.1 per cent to 6.2 per cent. And with real wages down since the change of government, families are paying more out of a pay packet that buys less. Inflation is at four per cent and rising. In Grey, small business is the town, and small business understands what this government does not. The local mechanic cannot spend more money than what comes through the workshop door. The hairdresser cannot hire more staff just because she'd like to. The truckie knows that every kilometre has to pay its way. If they ran their business the way Labor runs the budget, they'd be out of business.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Yet the Treasurer wants to blame the conflict in the Middle East for his economic woes. He wants to blame the coalition government—some six years ago—for his economic woes. Sure, Labor cannot control the price of oil in the Middle East. But what this government can control is how much demand is added to the domestic economy. That is precisely where fiscal discipline matters. This is not a government that has put the public finances on a diet. Government spending reached 26.9 per cent of GDP last financial year, the highest in four decades outside the pandemic. Commonwealth payments are up to $170 billion in four years. And interest on debt now costs a record $27 billion. That's just the interest on our debt.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">At the same time, Labor's tax take has risen to 24.1 per cent of GDP, just short of the record. Australians are paying more tax, keeping less of what they earn and paying more for everything. Even Labor's own backbench can see it, and I welcome them here today. In the <span style="font-style:italic;">Daily Telegraph</span>, a Labor MP had this to say about inflation:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">There's no point in Jim Chalmers jumping up and down saying it's got nothing to do with government spending. That's clearly not true. I'm not an economist and even I can see that.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Well, neither is the Treasurer. He has a doctorate, but not in economics. It is in political spin. Maybe if Labor put an economist in charge of the Treasury, we would start to see some sensible economic decisions. But perhaps that is too much of an ask for Labor. Families and small businesses have tightened their belts for four years. It is time this government tightened its own, because, when Labor spends, you pay.</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>39</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Jordan-Baird, Alice MP</name>
              <name.id>316021</name.id>
              <electorate>Gorton</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316021" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms JORDAN-BAIRD</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Gorton</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:00</span>):  I'm really excited to contribute to this afternoon's debate. We've seen some really odd references to Reagan and Thatcher, but ultimately what we've heard from the other side today has been pretty outlandish. With this motion, the shadow treasurer is trying to sell Australians yet another outlandish story about our current cost-of-living pressures. The coalition can dish it out, but they can't take it. With this motion, they're asking a lot of Australians. They're asking Australians to forget about their own record in government—to forget about the debt, inflation and cost-of-living pressures Australians faced for more than a decade under the coalition. The coalition spent a long nine years in government. When they left office, they left our country with almost $900 billion in gross debt, as well as inflation above six per cent and rising. Australians deserve to have the challenges they faced under almost a decade of coalition government recognised. Instead, the coalition wants to sell them a narrative that their current cost-of-living challenges started the day Australians elected a Labor government in 2022. Australians deserve better, and, given their record, it's no surprise that the coalition's carelessness with money has followed them to the opposition benches.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The shadow treasurer demands that the government further reduce spending while making more than $110 billion in unfunded commitments. He demands that we reduce debt faster while the opposition opposes the difficult choices needed to save money. As Josh Frydenberg so eloquently pointed out for us, the Liberal Party has to change. Yet the coalition is still trying to convince Australians that, if they were in government, debt, inflation and cost-of-living pressures would magically disappear. Australians aren't buying it.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Unlike the coalition, we would never dismiss the cost-of-living pressures faced by Australians. We know that Australians continue to face these cost-of-living pressures and we know there is more work to be done on debt and inflation, but our government has been working tirelessly on both of these measures. Even with international conflict throwing a wrench in the works, the work we've done has seen Australians much better off than they were four years ago. We've provided cost-of-living relief while still ensuring real government spending growth has averaged just two per cent. That's half the average of the previous government and well below the 30-year average.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We've found savings in every budget and every budget update, which is no easy feat. We're doing the hard thing, taking responsibility for our part of the fight against inflation, and that means continuing to manage the budget responsibly. It's why we've made savings and reprioritisations, reducing gross debt by $198 billion compared to what we inherited. We're one of only nine countries with a AAA credit rating from all three major rating agencies. Australians deserve an economic debate that recognises the pressures households are facing and measures governments by what they deliver. We are a government that is doing exactly that: delivering.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm proud to represent the incredible western suburbs of Melbourne, and every day I talk to working families who are feeling the pressures of living in our community. On this side of the House, we recognise that people are under pressure. That's one of the reasons why we're looking for savings in the budget. It's so we have space to do things like tripling the bulk-billing incentive, which is enabling more Australians to see a GP for free; like making medicines cheaper and making the bulk-billing urgent care clinics a permanent part of Medicare; like cutting income taxes five times in five different ways, putting nearly $3,000 a year into the pockets of a worker on an average income by 2028; like backing higher wages for nearly three million of Australia's lowest paid workers every year, which has seen the national minimum wage rise by over $12,078 per year. It's why I can stand here proudly and say that 94 per cent of clinics in my electorate are now fully bulk-billed.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">At the end of the day, Australians deserve more than outlandish stories and empty promises. They deserve a government that takes responsibility, makes the tough decisions and delivers real relief. While the coalition wants Australians to forget their record, Labor is focused on their future, because, ultimately, Australians don't need more political blame games; they need results. And that's exactly what our government is delivering. </span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>40</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Rebello, Leon MP</name>
              <name.id>316547</name.id>
              <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316547" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr REBELLO</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McPherson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:05</span>):  I rise today to speak to this matter of public importance moved by the shadow treasurer. This matter of public importance goes to something that is absolutely critical not only for Australians right now but for Australians to come—the future generations—because this is about the government's failure to control its addiction to spending. Yes, we are seeing those consequences in the form of higher interest rates. We're seeing the consequences in the form of higher prices. But something that I would like to add to this debate is the fact that we are going to see the consequences of this government's failure to rein in its continuous expenditure for years to come. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We have now hit a trillion dollars of debt, and it is the next generation that is going to have to pay that off. I look to the galleries today. We have St Joseph's from Murray Bridge here as guests of the member for Barker. It is that generation of young people in this country who want an optimistic and hopeful future where they can go out into their communities, generate wealth and contribute to this economy and to the future of Australia. But a consequence of what this government is doing is that it is denying people like them the opportunity to do so, and that is concerning.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's basic economics that, when government spending is too high, this puts upwards pressure on inflation in this country, and we've seen that through the 16 interest rate rises that this country has had to endure over the time that this government has been in office. We have a situation now where we have an interest rate of 4.6 per cent. The last time we had that was in 2011, 15 years ago. Australians—individuals and businesses—are hurting, and we all know that businesses have not hurt this much for some time. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I just had the privilege of visiting the Amazon showcase at Parliament House. I had a chat to some of the local businesses, including King Brown Pomade, a fantastic local business from my electorate at Burleigh Heads. I spoke to the business owners about some of the pressures that they're facing here in Australia at the moment. We've seen small businesses that have been blindsided by the decisions that this government has made. The worst bit is that we have a Minister for Small Business who has no concept of the reality of the decisions that she is imposing on people across this economy who are trying to do the right thing. They're trying to generate wealth. They're trying to employ Australians. They're trying to create products or provide services. And that is something that is quite concerning for all Australians who want to do the right thing, such as our next generation, including those in the gallery today. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is time that this parliament stopped, took stock and started to think about the consequences of this government's actions, because the continuous fuelling of this inflation fire is doing nothing but hurt Australians. And the worst bit is that everybody in this country seems to get it, apart from those on that side—those sitting on the government benches. The standard of fiscal responsibility that we expect of the people whom we govern should be the same standard that this government holds itself to, and that is not what we are seeing today. So this is a matter of public importance. It's a matter of public importance for the future generations who are going to be saddled with the $1 trillion debt bomb that this government has left—it will be $1.2 trillion by the next election.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is a matter of public importance for every single business I have to speak to, for the member for Berowra to speak to in his electorate, for the member for Grey to speak to in his electorate and for the member for Capricornia to speak to in her electorate. But, Mr Speaker, it is important for all Australians right now, and that is why the shadow treasurer has put this forward on the Notice Paper. It's time those opposite sat up and listened to what we are saying. But don't just listen to us; listen to the voices of the thousands of small businesses across this country, to whom we are giving a voice in their parliament.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The discussion has now concluded.</span>
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          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>41</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
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            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
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        </speech>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>COMMITTEES</title>
        <page.no>41</page.no>
        <type>COMMITTEES</type>
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          <page.no>41</page.no>
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            <a href="61" type="Committee">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Privileges and Members' Interests Committee</span>
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            <title>Reference</title>
            <page.no>41</page.no>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>41</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">16:10</span>):  Yesterday, the honourable member for Clark raised a matter of privilege in connection with a subpoena served on him recently, which was issued by the Federal Court of Australia in an action brought by Mr Alan Phillip Wykes against Mr Geoffrey Robert Swan.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The member has expressed concern that the subpoena is very broad and orders the production of a range of documents which might relate to matters the member has raised, or will raise, in the House as part of his parliamentary duties. It is on this basis that the member for Clark objects to communications between his office and Mr Swan being obtained by the applicant, Mr Wykes.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The member for Clark also raised that a subpoena of this nature could affect the extent to which members of the public will feel confident in providing material to members to inform their parliamentary work. The member for Clark has therefore asked that the matter be referred to the Committee of Privileges and Members' Interests to consider whether the subpoena raises issues of privilege or contempt, such that the House should intervene in the court proceedings.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Section 16 of the Parliamentary Privileges Act provides protections for 'proceedings in Parliament' which means 'all words spoken and acts done in the course of, or for the purposes of or incidental to, the transacting of the business of' the House. In the present case, the member for Clark has not presented detailed information which might lead me to be satisfied that there is prima facie evidence of a contempt or a breach of privilege.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Nevertheless, I am willing to give precedence to a motion for a matter concerning privilege or contempt, in relation to the circumstances raised by the member, to be referred to the Committee of Privileges and Members' Interests. Should the House agree to such a referral, it will then be a matter for the committee to consider the issues and recommend any further action to the House.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>41</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wilkie, Andrew MP</name>
                <name.id>C2T</name.id>
                <electorate>Clark</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="C2T" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WILKIE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Clark</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:12</span>):  Thank you, Speaker. I move:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">That the following matter be referred to the Committee of Privileges and Members' Interests:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Whether the subpoena issued by the Federal Court of Australia to the member for Clark raises issues of parliamentary privilege or contempt such that the House should intervene in the court proceedings to assert the protection of privilege.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</title>
        <page.no>41</page.no>
        <type>DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</span>
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          <title>Murray Bridge Primary School</title>
          <page.no>41</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Murray Bridge Primary School</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>41</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">16:12</span>):  It's my great privilege to recognise students from Murray Bridge Primary School from the mighty electorate of Barker. I see them up there with the member for Barker. Welcome to the House!</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralInterjecting">Honourable members:</span>  Hear, hear!</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>41</page.no>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">BILLS</span>
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          <title>Customs and Other Legislation Amendment (Illicit Tobacco Enforcement Modernisation and Other Measures) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>41</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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            <a href="r7540" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Customs and Other Legislation Amendment (Illicit Tobacco Enforcement Modernisation and Other Measures) Bill 2026</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>41</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">"the growth of the illicit market is the product of many years of inadequate enforcement, weak penalties and the absence of retail licensing, and that there is no good reason to cut the tobacco excise at this point in time"—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "the" (first occurring) be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">"House, whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, calls on the Government to immediately reduce the tobacco excise by 75 per cent to encourage consumers to move back to legal products, smash the black market and reduce the rampant organised crime which is now widespread in tobacco retailing"—</span>
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                  <span style="font-style:italic;">(</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">(Quorum formed)</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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        <title>COMMITTEES</title>
        <page.no>42</page.no>
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          <page.no>42</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">National Capital and External Territories Joint Committee</span>
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            <title>Report</title>
            <page.no>42</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Report</span>
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                <page.no>42</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Payne, Alicia MP</name>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Report made a parliamentary paper in accordance with standing order 39(e).</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms PAYNE:</span>
                    </a>  by leave—I am pleased to present the Joint Standing Committee on the National Capital and External Territories' <span style="font-style:italic;">Report on the National Capital Plan Amendment No. 102: Hume Circle Precinct</span>. The committee considers this to be a very significant planning proposal.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It has generated considerable public interest and prompted important discussions about the future of Canberra, the operation of the National Capital Plan, and how best to balance the need for growth and renewal with the preservation of the characteristics that make Australia's national capital unique.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">During this inquiry, the committee examined the legislative framework underpinning the National Capital Authority, as well as its consultation, strategic planning and long-term decision-making processes.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee received evidence from a broad range of stakeholders, including residents, community organisations, planning experts, the National Capital Authority, the ACT government and the project proponent JEGA. The evidence assisted the committee in gaining a comprehensive understanding of the issues raised by amendment 102.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Throughout the inquiry, stakeholders raised concerns regarding the adequacy of the National Capital Authority's consultation processes and whether the community had been provided with sufficient opportunities to participate meaningfully in the planning process.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The inquiry also considered the national significance of the Hume Circle Precinct, strategic and long-term planning considerations, urban design outcomes, the provision of supporting infrastructure, and opportunities for ongoing community engagement.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee heard clear evidence that future consultation processes must be more open, timely, transparent and meaningful, ensuring that community views are genuinely considered when planning decisions are made. Effective public participation is essential to maintaining public confidence in the planning framework for the national capital.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee also considers it important that future strategic and long-term planning processes are robust, evidence based and undertaken in a manner that clearly articulates how planning decisions align with broader national capital objectives.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The recommendations contained in this report are intended to strengthen future consultation and planning processes undertaken by the National Capital Authority.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The committee also seeks to improve cooperation between the NCA and the ACT government to ensure that planning outcomes are supported by appropriate infrastructure and are responsive to community needs.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In developing its recommendations, the committee has sought to ensure that national capital considerations remain central to future planning for the precinct while promoting greater transparency and public confidence in decision-making processes.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">On behalf of the committee, I thank everyone who has contributed to this inquiry through written submissions and participation in the public hearing. The committee greatly appreciates the time, effort and expertise provided by individuals and organisations throughout this process.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I particularly want to acknowledge the residents of Staffordshire Terrace, who have been quite distressed by this process. I hope that, through this process of our inquiry, they feel that their voices have been heard and that the recommendations that we have made give them comfort about the future of their homes in Hume Circle.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I also want to thank my fellow committee members for their constructive engagement and their commitment to ensuring that community concerns were heard and properly considered throughout the inquiry. I particularly want to thank the deputy chair, Senator Andrew McLachlan, and Senator David Pocock, our ACT Senate colleague, for their important roles in the public hearing and the inquiry.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I also acknowledge the National Capital Authority, the ACT government and all stakeholders who participated in the inquiry process and assisted the committee in its deliberations.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, I extend my sincere appreciation to the committee secretariat for their professionalism and dedication in supporting the committee throughout this inquiry. I commend the report to the House.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="248181" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Claydon</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Does the member for Canberra wish to move a motion in connection with the report to enable it to be debated on a future occasion?</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="144732" type="MemberContinuation">
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                    </a>  I move:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That the House take note of the report.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
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                    <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  The debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next sitting.</span>
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                  <page.no>42</page.no>
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                  <name role="metadata">Payne, Alicia MP</name>
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                  <page.no>43</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>248181</name.id>
                  <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
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                  <page.no>43</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Payne, Alicia MP</name>
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                  <page.no>43</page.no>
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                  <name role="metadata">DEPUTY SPEAKER, The</name>
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            <title>Reference to Federation Chamber</title>
            <page.no>43</page.no>
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                <page.no>43</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Payne, Alicia MP</name>
                <name.id>144732</name.id>
                <electorate>Canberra</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="144732" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms PAYNE</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That the order of the day be referred to the Federation Chamber for debate.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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        <page.no>43</page.no>
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          <title>Customs and Other Legislation Amendment (Illicit Tobacco Enforcement Modernisation and Other Measures) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>43</page.no>
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            <a href="r7540" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Customs and Other Legislation Amendment (Illicit Tobacco Enforcement Modernisation and Other Measures) Bill 2026</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>43</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">"the growth of the illicit market is the product of many years of inadequate enforcement, weak penalties and the absence of retail licensing, and that there is no good reason to cut the tobacco excise at this point in time".</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "the" (first occurring) be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">"House, whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, calls on the Government to immediately reduce the tobacco excise by 75 per cent to encourage consumers to move back to legal products, smash the black market and reduce the rampant organised crime which is now widespread in tobacco retailing".</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>43</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">O'Brien, Llew MP</name>
                <name.id>265991</name.id>
                <electorate>Wide Bay</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LLEW O'BRIEN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wide Bay</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:24</span>):  The Customs and Other Legislation Amendment (Illicit Tobacco Enforcement Modernisation and Other Measures) Bill 2026 is designed to enable Commonwealth law enforcement to crack down on Australia's very serious problem of the growing illicit tobacco trade and the organised crime groups behind it, and to strengthen the government's ability to seize criminal profits and unexplained wealth. These are worthwhile objectives that address the supply side to reduce opportunities for illicit tobacco to enter the black market. But the government still hasn't tackled the demand side of illicit tobacco, and it fails to address the primary reason that the illegal tobacco trade is flourishing. That is because government policy, in trying to deter people from smoking through excessive tobacco excise, is driving law-abiding smokers to the illicit market because they can no longer afford legal, regulated tobacco products.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In 2017, illicit tobacco made up around 10 per cent of consumption. By 2025, that figure had exploded to about 80 per cent. Four out of every five cigarettes consumed in Australia are now estimated to come from the black market. Smokers in Australia have turned to illicit nicotine products because the price of legal tobacco has almost tripled, driven by relentless excise increases. Today, a legal packet of cigarettes costs around 50 bucks, with more than $30 of that price made up in tax. Meanwhile, illicit tobacco sells for as little as $15 to $20 a packet. These excise increases, made by successive governments, have handed a multibillion dollar market to organised crime. Labor's vape policy has been just as disastrous. Despite restrictions and bans, illegal vapes are available in shops across Australia. The government itself admits that almost 96 per cent of e-cigarettes sold in Australia are illegal, in a black market worth around $1.6 billion. The profits are staggering. Criminal gangs are making between $4.1 billion and $6.9 billion from illicit tobacco alone. That is truly astounding.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That money is funding drug-trafficking scams, money laundering, extortion and violence, and the illicit tobacco trade has led to arson in Wide Bay, with a tobacco shop on the corner of Hilton Terrace and Earl Street at Tewantin set alight on Good Friday in 2023. A few days later, a tobacco and vape shop in Mary Street in Gympie was firebombed. In Victoria, there have been almost 200 tobacco related firebombings and six homicides linked to this trade. What was a health issue has also become a full-blown law and order crisis. And, whilst criminal gangs get richer, taxpayers are paying the price. The government's own illicit tobacco and e-cigarette commissioner estimates that illicit tobacco represents 50 to 60 per cent of tobacco sold in Australia in 2024-25, with an estimated market value between $4.1 billion and $6.9 billion. Estimated excise and duty evasion was between $7.7 billion and $11.8 billion. The illicit market is costing Australian taxpayers billions that could be funding prevention programs, hospitals, schools and essential services. It's instead ending up in the pockets of organised crime.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Labor government has no intention of tackling the root cause of the problem. When asked repeatedly whether he would rule out reducing tobacco excise, the Prime Minister has refused to give a straight answer. The coalition has a plan that will smash the organised crime business model. You do not defeat organised crime by protecting its profits; you destroy the profits. We will cut tobacco excise by 80 per cent, reducing the excise component on a packet of cigarettes from around $30 to roughly $6. We will also replace Labor's failed pharmacy-only vape model and end the ban on nicotine pouches by establishing a regulated, legal market for adults. If adults are already purchasing these products, they should buy them from legitimate Australian businesses operating under Australian laws, not from criminal networks.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But this is not just about tax; it's also about enforcement. The coalition will invest $200 million in a nationwide law enforcement surge to shut down illegal tobacco shops, stop illicit shipments at the border, seize criminal assets and target the gang bosses behind these operations. We will back that with a $60 million education campaign exposing the criminal links behind illicit tobacco and vapes. This is about taking billions of dollars out of the hands of organised crime and returning those dollars to the legitimate economy. Most importantly, it is about restoring common sense, because Australians deserve policies that improve health and economic outcomes. They deserve streets free from gang violence, and they deserve a government that is prepared to admit when a policy has failed and is prepared to take action to fix it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I support the new enforcement powers to stifle supply of illicit tobacco. But the government must also take action to divert demand away from the illicit tobacco market and towards the legal retail market by taking action on tobacco excise.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>44</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Pasin, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>240756</name.id>
                <electorate>Barker</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr PASIN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Barker</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:31</span>):  It's certainly a different perspective when you're in the galleries. I had the great honour just a few moments ago to accompany young students from St Joseph's School Murray Bridge into the chamber. They watched the member for Berowra draw the Speaker to the state of the House. They were interested about why people piled into the chamber and were then just as interested in why they piled out. In any event, having explained the nature of proceedings in this building, I'm down here making a contribution.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I wanted to mention the students from Murray Bridge because overnight in the commercial precinct of Murray Bridge, we had a commercial building set alight. It was an arson attack. I've had the great privilege of representing the community of Murray Bridge for some 13 years, and I'm happy to say that arson of commercial buildings is not something that is common in or around the CBD of Murray Bridge yet last night it occurred. A local journalist has reached out to me. His suspicion is that it might be related to the illicit tobacco trade. We can't confirm that, but I'll be sure to update the House. It is perhaps likely given the circumstances that this is yet another example of the livelihoods of people living in regional communities being put at risk by this illicit trade.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">While I'm talking about Murray Bridge, recently a social media video of mine attracted substantial attention. It was simply a video of two packets of cigarettes. One was an illegal packet that on which no excise was paid and another was a legitimate packet of cigarettes. Both were packets of 20. One cost $20 cash—no receipt, I'm told—and the other costs something in the order of $50. That social media video got something in the order of 800,000 views. But what happened in response, I expect from that video or attention otherwise, is that the illegal cigarette shops at Murray Bridge were raided. Now, that is appropriate and the right thing to do. But what I want to draw the House's attention to is my understanding from people living in Murray Bridge that the very next day or the day after, one of those illegal tobacco shops was open again. It was selling tobacco not out of the premises but out of the tin shed out the back. I want to draw that example to the House's attention because, as a former criminal barrister, police would often say to me, 'We're not going to be able to prosecute our way out of—insert particular criminal offence perpetrated by serious and organised crime.' That is the case here.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Serious and organised crime has entered and now dominates the illegal tobacco industry. Those opposite have created an environment in which there is an economic incentive, and that incentive is being enjoyed by criminals. And, whilst the coalition supports the bill's measures, we want to be very clear. These measures don't go far enough. Quite frankly, you can close down as many shops, you can strengthen enforcement and you can modernise those measures, but, if you take action and within days the serious and organised crime gangs that are selling these illegal cigarettes or illicit tobacco to Australians open up again, then quite frankly we're just on this merry-go-round.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">So what is the coalition's solution? The coalition's solution is to take away that economic incentive, to reduce it by reducing excise on illicit tobacco. You won't smash the crime gangs unless you smash their business model. There's this fallacy that serious and organised criminals are people that don't understand business or don't have high degrees of business efficacy. Can I tell you, as someone who worked in criminal law, that is a fallacy. The way to crush these gangs and their activity in illicit tobacco trade is to take away the economic and financial commercial incentives for them to do so, and that's exactly what the coalition's plan will do.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As we just heard, that's not the only thing we'll do. We'll strengthen enforcements. We'll move to legitimise and legalise vapes. All of that will move what is a substantial commercial trade from the hands of organised criminals back into the hands of businesses that employ locals, businesses that pay staff appropriately and businesses that take the kinds of measures that are required to ensure young Australians don't access these products in circumstances where they're not—and, quite frankly, shouldn't be—permitted to do so. If a young person enters one of these illegal tobacco shops, I don't reckon anyone is checking for ID. They're not checking for ID.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I know there have been some opponents, including those opposite, who say: 'You're just going to create a new generation of Australian smokers. Smoking rates are in decline.' Cigarettes in this country have never been cheaper. I'm not happy about that, but I'm not blind to the reality of it. They have never been cheaper and, I'd argue, have never been more accessible. So, for those opposite and others in academia and NGOs to suggest that smoking rates in this country are in decline, I really think they need to spend more time where young people are. I, on occasion, do—football clubs, sporting organisations, front bars and other places—and I don't think smoking rates are in decline. I think smoking rates of legitimate cigarettes, those on which excise are paid, are certainly in decline. I heard a figure referenced then, but I've seen other figures that would suggest four out of every five cigarettes sold in this country are illegal.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We've got to smash these business models. Has anyone done some time thinking about what serious and organised crime put that revenue towards? I think we can accept there is more revenue flowing to these organisations courtesy of this trade than you can fly a rocket ship over. But has anyone paused for a minute to say, 'What will they apply that resource to?' I don't think they're building playgrounds. I don't think they're funding schools. They're certainly not funding hospitals. It's being diverted into activity that, by its very nature, no-one—and I mean no-one—in this place wants to see encouraged.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Now, when I was studying economics—I think it was 1995 at Flinders University. The member for Berowra will appreciate this: I did it to get some casual relief from my studies of the law. If someone had told me in macroeconomics 101 that you could reduce a tax by 80 per cent—tobacco excise is a tax—and drive up government revenues by $6 billion to $8 billion, I would have told them they'd spent a bit too much time down at the university bar and that they might have been smoking but it wasn't tobacco. But that's the reality here. The reality is that we've gone so far past the curve, we have created such a gap between legal and illegal products, that we can reduce excise on tobacco and yet we'll raise billions of dollars in additional revenue, which we can spend on the kinds of things that serious and organised crime absolutely won't spend it on.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I've had the great privilege of being the member for Barker for a tick over 13 years now, and, in all my time in this place, I don't think I can remember another time where a policy put to the Australian people had so much upside: more revenue for government; less money in the hands of organised criminals; making it harder for people under the age of 18 to access these products, because, of course, supermarkets and other things are going to be very careful about complying with the law for fear that they might lose licences and other activity; more jobs; less money in the cash economy; more money to legitimate businesses that pay tax otherwise—taxes over and above the excise that's on the packet of cigarettes; more money for businesses that support community sport and other organisations, which is so critical in rural, regional and remote Australia, the likes of which I represent across the electorate of Barker. Win, win, win, win.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">If there was ever an opportunity for those opposite to extend the hand and simply say, 'Let's agree that this is a good approach,' this is it. Like I said, it's less money in the hands of criminals; more money in the hands of government in terms of tax receipts; making it more difficult for people who ought not, must not and should not be accessing this product to access it; more money in the hands of legitimate businesses that pay tax—again, more revenue to government—and that employ Australians and do it legitimately and appropriately. Win, win, win, win.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When I get the opportunity, I will update the House on whether the arson that took place in Murray Bridge overnight was a consequence of this illicit trade. If it was, I'll remind the House that, in addition to all the harm I mentioned, this trade is putting the lives and livelihoods of Australians at risk. It is not an uncommon sight now, on our news bulletins of an evening, to see that a delicatessen or a small retail shop has been set alight. I'm not suggesting that it relates to this illicit trade in every case, but I am suggesting that a whopping proportion of them do. There is a serious turf war going on all over this country. The people who are running this trade are rotten, mean and nasty, and they will stop at nothing. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The first responsibility of government and those of us in this place is to keep Australians safe, so the action that we must take—not that we could take or should take—is to strip these criminals of the revenue model that they're operating. We've got to smash their business model, because seeking to prosecute or enforce our way through this to the other side simply won't work. As I said at the beginning of this contribution, one of these illegal stores was shut down in Murray Bridge, only to open up days later. These criminals are agile, and the only way to beat them is to smash their business model. That's our proposal. It'll be good for Australians. It'll be good for Australia. It's putting Australians first, and it's not before time that those opposite reconsider their position and adopt ours.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>46</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Gee, Andrew MP</name>
                <name.id>261393</name.id>
                <electorate>Calare</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                    <a href="261393" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GEE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Calare</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:46</span>):  The explosion in the sale of illegal tobacco and vapes across our country is set to go down as one of the greatest policy failures in Australia's history. This is not only a health crisis; this is not only a revenue and taxation crisis; this is now a full-blown law and order crisis. Right across our country, from our smallest country towns in regional Australia to our largest city streets, illegal tobacco shops are the new boom industry, and the government's policy of repeatedly hiking taxes on tobacco has clearly failed catastrophically. The tax on tobacco has been made so high that it has created a thriving market in illegal tobacco products around Australia. It has created a boom industry for the crooks, criminals and organised crime syndicates. It is outrageous. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have seen a 4.3-fold increase in the excise on tobacco since 2013. Back in the middle of last year, when I first brought up a policy proposal to slash the excise, the tax on a single pack of 20 cigarettes was $28.06. Today, following further tax hikes through automatic indexation, that excise has ballooned to over $31 per pack. That's more than $1.55 per single cigarette just in tax. We need to slash the tax on tobacco. We need to pull the rug out from under the feet of the organised criminal syndicates and gangs that are running this industry. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Since calling for the slashing of the excise on tobacco last year, I'm pleased to see that my policy position has been plagiarised by One Nation, the Liberals and the Nationals. It's very heartening to see that my ideas are once again being lifted by these political parties. Originality is not their strong suit, and I can look back on bills that I brought to this place. My bill to stop the buying of residential property in Australia by foreigners for two years—that's the ban on foreign buying of residential property—was plagiarised by the opposition and then plagiarised by the government, and it is now, in fact, policy. You have my bill to protect prime agricultural land. As soon as the Nationals got a whiff that that was in here, they had to rush in with their own. I'm not sure that it's going to save them. Then you had my gas reservation policy, which I took to the last election. It was very clearly set out in the election platform that I took to the people of Calare. Again, it was plagiarised by the Liberals and Nationals and then plagiarised by the government. So there you go—they are getting the message. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But the point is that when you push this tax on tobacco to eye-watering levels you do not eradicate demand. You simply hand a multibillion-dollar market to criminal networks. That is what is happening here. It's created a boom industry for crooks. The ABS, the Australian Bureau of Statistics, has estimated that 80 per cent of cigarettes and vapes consumed in Australia last year were illegal. Even if that is at the higher end of estimates, the figure is still unbelievably high; we all know that. How much federal excise has been lost through this misguided policy? Estimates vary, but it's between $7.7 billion and $11 billion. Do you have any idea how many Great Western Highways we could have fixed with that, or how many roads and hospitals and schools we could have built and fixed with that money?</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Then there is the violence: the firebombings, the extortion and the hold-ups that are plaguing our communities, from our smallest villages and towns to our largest cities—more than 200 firebombings since 2023; that is staggering. And this is all through a government policy. This has been created by the government. It's the greatest policy fail of its type since prohibition in the United States. I feel really sorry for the legitimate businesses out there who work hard and do their best to employ people. Recently I was at the opening of the new SPAR supermarket at Bloomfield near Orange Hospital. One of the issues the owners raised with me was illegal tobacco and how their sales have plummeted because the sales of illegal tobacco have skyrocketed, and all it has done is enrich criminals. These business owners are hardworking people who employ local people, make big investments—major investments in our area—and what are we doing to support their businesses? We are handing a new business to organised crime.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Nobody in government seems to know which stores are selling legal products and which are selling black-market goods. I mean, you can see them driving around our areas. It is not a secret. In fact, some of them even boldly put up signs advertising vapes—which are illegal, because vapes need to be sold through pharmacies. That's how blatant the disregard for the law is and how ineffective the enforcement has been. And every few months we get a new announcement from the government saying, 'Yep, we're going to do it this time; we're going to crack down on the illegal trade in tobacco and vapes.' It always comes out with a press release, and sometimes there's a press conference. They do a bit of work here and there, but the illegal trade flourishes nevertheless.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">So, as I said, since last year I've been calling on the government to take direct, commonsense action and slash this excise and back it up with genuine enforcement. That also needs to be backed up by resources. I know that in the past the federal government has tended to push this onto the states—in my case, the New South Wales government—but there's only so much they can do. I think they're trying. But, honestly, they're fighting a losing battle. The reality is that you cannot tax your way out of this law-and-order crisis. You cannot simply try enforcement on one hand while creating business opportunities for criminals on the other.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">So I'm pleased that other parties have now copied, plagiarised, my proposal to slash the excise on tobacco. I'm pleased to see them coming around to the reality on the ground. But talk alone will not fix this crisis. The state and federal governments need to follow through with an effective enforcement regime and system that stamps out the illegal trade coupled with a complete overhaul of these exorbitant taxes that have been the default position and that are creating this flourishing trade in illegal tobacco, which has been a major boost for organised crime. I think that is undeniable. While the government assures us that action is being taken, I don't think government action on this has been anywhere near enough. It hasn't been effective. It's as simple as that.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The safety of our communities and the health of our residents are too important to risk. This cannot go on. Twenty-four thousand people a year die from smoking related illnesses. This is a health crisis. This is a 'law and order' crisis. This is a massive policy fail. We cannot keep handing organised crime a flourishing business. We need to be supporting legitimate businesses in our states and in Australia. Action is needed on this issue now, and the government has dragged its feet on this for too long. So I would urge the government to take action to not only protect the health of Australians but also protect Australians safety and clamp down and do something on this 'law and order' crisis that is sweeping the country through government policy settings. If you do that, you'll actually get more revenue to pay for the schools, roads, hospitals and all of the things that our communities so desperately need. Action on illegal tobacco and vapes is needed right now. What the government has done so far has not been good enough. Fix this problem. Take effective action immediately.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>47</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Steggall, Zali MP</name>
                <name.id>175696</name.id>
                <electorate>Warringah</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms STEGGALL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Warringah</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:56</span>):  I agree that we need to fix this problem and take action on the illegal trade of tobacco and vapes, but I strongly disagree with the contribution of the member for Calare and the coalition in this place. The hypocrisy is staggering when claiming that it is all the fault of excise that has brought us to the crime crisis that we have. For the benefit of listeners, I will point out that tobacco excise in Australia has gone up under both sides of the major parties whenever they have been in government. In fact it was in 2013, under a coalition government, that the Commonwealth accelerated the tax trajectory by legislating a series of four annual 12½ per cent tobacco excise increases. My understanding is the member for Calare was a member of the coalition at the time. In 2016, the government announced a further multi-year plan for 12½ per cent annual tobacco excise increases running through to 2020, and then under Labor in 2023-26 we've had another round of legislated five per cent annual tax increases over three years.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What we have now is all of the proponents who have gotten us to this situation purporting—without any evidence before this House, I might add. I haven't heard any speaker bring any data that suggests that, by lowering the excise, you will get into a price war with crime and somehow you are going to have legitimate and legal tobacco sales that are going to price beat illegal tobacco which will end up with people choosing to buy legal tobacco and thus revenue will be raised through the excise. What we've seen in other jurisdictions, like in Canada, where the excise has been dropped is a significant increase in smoking rates, which comes at a cost through increased health consequences. What we need to do is make sure that there is strong enforcement. For that reason, I do support the Customs and Other Legislation Amendment (Illicit Tobacco Enforcement Modernisation and Other Measures) Bill 2026, but I am calling on the government to do more. I agree; this is a huge problem in our communities, and there has to be a way to do more.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I've talked to a local constituent who tells me that illegal tobacco is $9 a pack, and she has no idea what she's smoking. She has no idea what rubbish is in it. When I hear the previous speaker from the coalition even talking about legalising the sale of vapes again—my goodness. Is there no limit to the harm you want to do to Australians? I look at the students that come here, and we know the impact getting sucked into vapes and smoking has on young people. I and the community in Warringah have deep, deep concerns about the resurgence of tobacco and smoking. It's a massive public health issue, and the association with vaping and crime extends deep into every community in Australia.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill seeks to amend the Customs Act and Proceeds of Crime Act to uplift the deterrence of criminal conduct with respect to the unlawful importation of tobacco to Australia and to support more effective enforcement and prosecutions. I think this is an important bill. It's the most significant modernisation of Australia's illicit tobacco customs enforcement framework since 2018, and I support the central intent of this bill to strengthen enforcement—more effective penalties, improved seizure and forfeiture arrangements, strengthened investigative powers and greater capacity for law enforcement agencies to pursue the proceeds of crime. It's what we need to work towards stamping out illegal tobacco importation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We know enforcement alone isn't going to solve this problem. It has to sit alongside a public health education campaign, quitting support, coordinated state and federal enforcement, transparent oversight and proper resourcing. When I was talking to my local constituent who was telling me she was choosing the $9 illegal cigarettes, I pointed out the risks that she was taking—that she was supporting organised crime. She hadn't even thought about it that way. So we need a campaign to remind people of just what it is that they are choosing when they are supporting illegal cigarettes and vapes.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Along with my community, I've been steadfast in calling for stronger controls to control illegal tobacco sales. In 2023, I raised concerns that illegal vape shops were popping up in Warringah. Parents remain deeply worried about vapes in schools and shops operating close to schools. I called for stronger action on importation, disposable vapes and retail proximity to schools, and government assured us that they were doing that. That comes back to a question of changing zoning requirements—for example, so that convenience stores that are going to sell these products cannot just get approval from local government to open in certain locations.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In 2024, I again spoke in support of vaping reforms—the regular concern raised by Warringah parents, carers and educators about young people accessing vapes and the need for strong national legislation to ban importation, marketing, distribution and commercial possession and the much greater marketing or information campaign for people to be aware of and understand the dangers and the toxicity and the risks of vaping. Some of these concerns have been addressed by ramping up enforcement on illegal tobacco, but it has been a piecemeal approach, and the widespread availability of illegal vapes and illegal cigarettes remains incredibly concerning.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have a great track record in Australia of building one of the most successful tobacco control systems in the world. We have established plain packaging, advertising restrictions, public health campaigns, excise settings, quit support and strong regulation. That is a great achievement, but that success is absolutely being challenged by the fast-growing illicit tobacco and vaping market.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The rapid rise in vaping among young Australians is particularly alarming. NSW Health reports that 16- to 24-year-olds have the highest vaping rates of any age group, at around 20 per cent, and according to the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare, in 2023, 28 per cent of 14- to 17-year-olds had tried an e-cigarette, almost triple the rate from just before, in 2019. More than 87 per cent of 14- to 17-year-olds who used nicotine e-cigarettes obtained them without a prescription. More significantly, tobacconists are popping up within 300 metres of schools, all over the place in our areas and communities. Products that should never be in the hands of children are being sold through ordinary-looking shopfronts, often with little regard for the law. That is unacceptable.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are vapes for sale at pocket-money prices. I'm regularly contacted by parents and carers whose teenage kids are addicted to illegal vapes. Parents feel powerless. One local mother described it as being 'traumatic to be battling an addiction and facing dealers at every street corner'. At a local government level, they can't do anything to deter tobacconists from opening close to schools in their area. So we need some strong leadership and some change to town planning rules, and that comes back to working with state jurisdictions around where we can and can't have these stores. We have to make sure we deter tobacconists from opening up.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm supportive of the government's response to the illegal tobacco trade. Legislative reform to tackle illegal tobacco remains important to disrupt the criminal supply chains, making illegal tobacco less profitable. I also support the second reading amendment moved by the member for Kooyong, Monique Ryan. We cannot ignore years of enforcement failures and then claim that reducing tobacco excise is the solution. Again I say: we haven't actually seen any data or any PBO costings that would even suggest the link that is being proposed by many members in this place. Tobacco excise has been a critical part of Australia's successful public health approach to reducing smoking. There is no good reason to cut tobacco excise at this point in time. Rather than making smoking cheaper, we need to make illegal tobacco harder to obtain and less profitable to sell. Making smoking cheaper will just kick the can down the road and make sure we have greater rates of smoking, and we will then pay the price of a public health crisis. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The priority must be stronger enforcement, effective retail licensing and meaningful penalties that deter criminal activity. But legislative reform for enforcement is only part of the solution, so I urge the minister and the government to consider the four areas that need to have more focus. Commonwealth, states and territories need a nationally coordinated enforcement model. We need stronger controls on retail locations, ensuring that tobacco and vape shops are not opening up near schools. We need urgent, sustained public health advertising and education in schools and workplaces about nicotine addiction and vaping harms, particularly for young people—they simply do not think that vaping is as bad as smoking, and that is horrendous. We need better public information on enforcement outcomes and illegal sales. We must make it harder to sell illegal tobacco and vapes and harder to profit from it, and we have to make it easier for young people and all people to quit.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill provides better tools to disrupt criminal tobacco importation and recover criminal proceeds. Those powers need to be backed up by adequate resources for the Australian Border Force, the Australian Federal Police and other relevant enforcement agencies. Stronger penalties will only deter criminal conduct if there is a credible prospect of detection, prosecution and enforcement. The measure of success must be fewer illegal products on our streets, fewer young people becoming addicted and less money flowing to organised crime. Without these complementary measures, we risk strengthening enforcement at the border while leaving serious gaps in the domestic market.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia has demonstrated that strong, evidence based tobacco regulation works. We have reduced smoking rates, protected public health and saved lives through decades of reform. The growth of the illegal tobacco and vaping market demands a stronger and more coordinated response. Every day the illegal retailers continue operating, more young people are exposed to nicotine addiction and criminal networks continue to profit. Schools should not have to compete with illegal vape sellers operating just down the road, and communities should not have to live with the consequences of organised crime exploiting gaps in our regulatory system. I support the bill, but I urge the government to go further. In particular, we should be banning any donations from these harmful industries in relation to tobacco or vaping. I note that the National Party remains the party that accepts donations from the tobacco industry, so that puts in question a number of things. I urge the government to be tough and to continue with sensible reforms.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>49</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Spender, Allegra MP</name>
                <name.id>286042</name.id>
                <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SPENDER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wentworth</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:08</span>):  I rise to speak in support of the Customs and Other Legislation Amendment (Illicit Tobacco Enforcement Modernisation and Other Measures) Bill 2026. This bill creates new offences for importing, possessing and conveying illicit tobacco, including an aggravated offence carrying up to 10 years imprisonment for large-scale and organised offending. It closes the loophole that has led to duty-refundable tobacco leak from duty-free shops into the black market. It streamlines seizure and forfeiture powers. It tightens obligations on the customs depots, warehouses and brokers that sit in the gateway of our supply chain. It also strengthens proceeds-of-crime laws so that the profits of this trade can be stripped from the people who make them. I do support this bill wholeheartedly.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I've spoken in this House before about Australia's illicit tobacco problem, so I won't repeat the evidence today, but it is serious. I've consulted widely, spoken to people on all sides of this debate and looked at the evidence, including the experience in Canada and elsewhere. And I'll be honest: I'm frustrated by where this debate is heading and by the stubbornness on all sides about solving this properly. Successive governments have watched a slow-motion car crash, and this government has watched it accelerate. Excise rates have gone up while excise receipts have gone down. Crime has grown. And, seriously, I never thought I'd hear so much mainstream reporting about the Laffer curve. We have passed enforcement measure after enforcement measure, and we are not seeing the progress that we need. That is my fundamental concern in relation to this bill. While I support the measures, I do not yet have the confidence that this is actually going to fundamentally address the issues nor do I have clear guidance from the government about under what circumstances it will consider going forward, including reviewing the excise as a potential measure. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to protect public health. Of course I do. Australia's low smoking rates are something that we should be celebrating, because this is about outcomes that are good for Australian families. But health is no longer the only objective at play. We are also talking about organised crime, community safety and billions of dollars in lost tax revenue. These matter too, particularly the organised crime element of this and community safety. That really matters in our community. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">On price, let me be clear I don't believe we will ever really undercut the criminals, but we can stop making the gap worse. At the very minimum the excise should be frozen. I do not understand why the government hasn't taken the action to at least freeze the excise now rather than continue to increase the gap between the cost of cigarettes on the black market and the cost of cigarettes on legitimate markets. I am open to considering a reduction beyond that, but I want to see the modelling and I want to see greater detail in terms of that first. The numbers put forward by One Nation and coalition are about as scientific as a finger in the air, and that is why I won't be supporting the amendments here. I want to see the government take these options in terms of excise cutting seriously. What I want to see the government do is, honestly, come up with a goal that is measurable in a time period after which they will change or not make further changes in terms of illicit tobacco, including excise cuts, because we don't have enough clarity about what the government is seeking and what the government's own success measures that are in this bill are seeking to achieve. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I think we're also not talking about how easy these products are to get. There are estimated to be more than 40,000 tobacconists in Australia. That's more than fast food or takeaway outlets. It is now easier to buy a packet of cigarettes in this country than a cheeseburger. It's simply incongruous with the advertised rates of smoking. Equally, we cannot realistically expect underresourced police and health officials to monitor that many outlets. The Commonwealth should be working with the states and territories to substantially tighten retail licensing. Tobacco should be sold by fewer businesses and only by those with diversified product ranges and the reputational considerations that outweigh the incentives to break the law. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I think it is irresponsible for the coalition to be considering introducing new legal nicotine products before first considering how to make these products harder to get in the first place. Yes, some legitimate businesses will be affected. I don't say that lightly, but this problem has gone so far that we have to be prepared to make hard choices. Some bad operators will reopen as mixed businesses. That's, again, something we'll need to accept, but it will stop the neon advertising of tobacco on every street corner and make consumers less certain of which products are and are not selling. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is what a comprehensive response to this problem looks like. Stop widening the price gap. Make it harder to access these products legally or illegally, and be ruthless on enforcement. Let's be honest. We may need to make adjustments to these approaches over time. We are in uncharted territories, and we don't know what is going to work or what isn't. International case studies are few and far between, and the most representative one is 30 years old. The system isn't working currently, and the government needs to be honest about that and tell the public when and by what measures they are going to consider altering their approach, including considering changes to tobacco excise. It is up to the government now to do this and to make sure that what they're putting in place this time actually works. </span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>50</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Hill, Julian MP</name>
                <name.id>86256</name.id>
                <electorate>Bruce</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="86256" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr HILL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bruce</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Citizenship, Customs and Multicultural Affairs and Assistant Minister for International Education</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:14</span>):  I thank the previous speaker for her thoughtful, intelligent contribution, and I'll thank all but one of the members who've contributed to this debate on the Customs and Other Legislation Amendment (Illicit Tobacco Enforcement Modernisation and Other Measures) Bill 2026. I was on chamber duty last night and I had an OH&amp;S issue as I listened to the member for Goldstein screaming in an unhinged way, drifting, to the point where he was just really goading us to take points of order as he offensively compared the government to a bunch of organised criminals. It reminded me of when Peter Dutton compared us in opposition to a bunch of paedophiles, but I wasn't going to give him the satisfaction of making him withdraw. It was offensive. But everyone else, I think, has made genuine contributions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill delivers a comprehensive package of reforms to modernise Australia's response to illicit tobacco and strengthen the tools available to law enforcement agencies to combat a growing and increasingly sophisticated criminal enterprise. The reforms address elements in the current framework that have been exploited by organised criminal groups involved in the importation, distribution and sale of illicit tobacco. They will improve enforcement outcomes, strengthen supply chain integrity and ensure that criminal groups face stronger consequences for their conduct.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill strengthens the illicit tobacco offence framework by introducing new offences that better reflect the realities of modern illicit tobacco offending. Current offences often rely on proving what an offender knew or intended at the time of importation yet, of course, criminal groups have adapted their methods to make this increasingly difficult. The bill focuses more closely on the unlawful conduct itself, and this will make it far easier to hold offenders to account, and will improve deterrence against illicit tobacco activity.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill will also help ensure that the seriousness with which prohibited tobacco imports are treated under the customs framework is elevated. This will ensure that enforcement responses more appropriately reflect the harms caused by illicit tobacco and the profits generated by organised criminal activity. This bill closes a legislative loophole that allows duty refundable tobacco to fall outside customs control while it remains in Australia. This was a result of the 2018 reforms, which were well intentioned, but it needs to be closed. This reform will reduce opportunities for diversion of cheap tobacco into the black market, while improving a practical compliance framework for legitimate duty free operators.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill modernises seizure and disposal processes for illicit tobacco, enabling more efficient enforcement action and preventing criminals from exploiting administrative procedures to delay or frustrate the destruction of illicit tobacco. The bill also strengthens integrity across the customs supply chain by introducing additional statutory obligations for customs brokers, depots and warehouses, and establishing new oversight mechanisms for applications for depot and warehouse licences. These reforms support legitimate businesses while targeting those who facilitate illicit tobacco activity.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, the bill strengthens Australia's proceeds of crime framework by clarifying and strengthening production order powers used to investigate criminal assets and recover the proceeds of crime. The bill also improves the operation of pecuniary penalty orders so that offenders are more effectively deprived of the financial benefits derived from their criminal conduct and can no longer exploit uncertainty in the current framework to retain illicit profits. And the bill clarifies the operation of unexplained wealth provisions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">All of this is important, because, as the Federal Police and state police have explained to us, prosecutions are important but they're slow and expensive. What really hurts these crooks is to go after them immediately and take their cash, their houses, their cars, their boats and their toys away, and the bill will modernise the proceeds of crime framework to make that easier for the authorities to do that. Together, these reforms as a package will strengthen Australia's ability to identify, trace and take away the proceeds and benefits of crime, making the illicit tobacco trade less profitable for criminals. The theme here, as we've said before in the debate on the previous bill a few months ago, is to change the equation and reverse the equation and make it more risky and less profitable as a trade.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'd like to now just record the government's response to the coalition and Greens senators' recommendations in the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Legislation Committee's report. This bill was referred to the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Legislation Committee for consideration and report, and the committee recommended that the bill be passed. I thank the committee for its careful consideration of these important reforms and support of the bill. Some senators raised issues relating to the implementation of the new supply chain integrity measures in schedule 5, including consultation with industry, the provision of guidance material, education and compliance support and ensuring that obligations remain practical and proportionate for legitimate operators.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government recognises the important role played by customs brokers, depot operators, warehouse operators and other law abiding supply chain participants. Since the introduction of this bill, the Australian Border Force has engaged with these affected stakeholders, and schedule 5 will be implemented in consultation with them. I actually met this morning with the customs brokers and freight forwarders association and had further productive discussions. Broadly, I think they support the bill as long as they're consulted about the implementation, which is what's happening. Compliance arrangements will be designed to focus on reasonable and practical steps that support supply chain integrity while minimising unnecessary regulatory burden on legitimate businesses. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Senators also highlighted the importance of ensuring that legislative reform is complemented by broader operational and policy measures to combat illicit tobacco. The government agrees—and the previous speaker made the point, rightly—that no single measure alone can resolve the illicit tobacco problem. This bill forms part of a broader government response that now includes several rounds of legislative reform and significant investment in border enforcement, with the Australian Border Force achieving record levels of seizures at the border through Campaign Printwall and now Operation Printwall; criminal investigations, which have accelerated; proceeds-of-crime action, which is being increased by all jurisdictions; disruption of illicit tobacco supply chains, now led by the national disruption group led by the Australian Border Force; cooperation with the states and territories, which continues apace; and public health measures. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government has already introduced major tobacco and vaping reforms and enhanced enforcement capabilities and resourcing across Commonwealth agencies. It continues to provide law enforcement agencies with the tools they need—the powers in this bill reflect the requests and advice of our law enforcement agencies—to investigate, disrupt and dismantle organised criminal networks involved in illicit tobacco and vapes. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Some senators proposed additional measures relating to track-and-trace, retail regulation and state and territory enforcement arrangements. I want to assure the House that the government will continue to work collaboratively with the states and territories on measures that strengthen the integrity of tobacco supply chains, improve compliance and enforcement outcomes and support efforts to disrupt the sale of illicit tobacco through retail channels. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Previous assessments have not identified sufficient operational benefits, however, to justify the very significant cost to industry of a track-and-trace regime. The government is conducting a cost-benefit analysis of the requirements under the World Health Organization Framework Convention on Tobacco Control's Protocol to Eliminate Illicit Trade in Tobacco Products, including track-and-trace. This consultation is currently underway. Track-and-trace is unlikely, though, to materially disrupt illicit tobacco markets at this time—you've always got to look at the cost-benefit of these things—as criminal actors already operate outside regulatory frameworks, and a track-and-trace scheme, on the advice we have at present, would not impact consumer demand for cheap illicit tobacco. Intelligence, compliance and enforcement activities remain the key drivers of illicit-tobacco detection and disruption. The government will also continue to consider measures that enhance visibility and transparency across the tobacco supply chain. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Senators also emphasised the importance of reducing demand for tobacco products and supporting smoking cessation, and this is incredibly important. The previous speaker and, I know, a number of speakers, including those on the coalition side—some of them may have a different view on some aspects of policy, and I heard a range of views, but there are some coalition members that remain very committed to Australia's longstanding policies over generations to reduce tobacco consumption and therefore save lives. The government remains committed to a comprehensive public health approach to tobacco control. This includes maintaining strong tobacco control measures, supporting smoking cessation initiatives, promoting evidence based approaches—not 'the vibe of the thing'—to reducing smoking prevalence and continuing public education efforts aimed at improving health outcomes and reducing the harms associated with tobacco use. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It is still the leading cause of preventable death in our country. I don't want to see the next generation return to what my grandpa's generation suffered. Frankly, I know the communities you represent, Deputy Speaker, have the highest rates of adult smoking anywhere in our country. The Northern Territory has by far the highest rates of adult smoking anywhere in the country. Today, 66 Australians will die of a smoking related illness; tomorrow, 66 more Australians will die of a smoking related illness. This government will not surrender the gains which have been hard-won over generations in driving down adult smoking rates. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, some senators also advanced alternative policy proposals concerning tobacco excise, vaping regulation, public awareness initiatives and operational enforcement settings. The government is working with and supporting all jurisdictions to overhaul their laws, scale up enforcement and shut the shops. Frankly, I'll say it again, the big states have been too slow to act. But I acknowledge action is now happening, which is welcome. Just last week, I released data showing that sales of legal tobacco in Queensland have increased and that the Queensland model, which was built on the pioneering South Australian model of enforcement, is driving people to then call the Quitline. We've correlated that there's a spike in calls to the Quitline when they go out and enforce in a particular region, and that's a good thing. These laws will make it easier for all jurisdictions, right across the country, to go after any business involved in this trade. It doesn't matter whether they're a tobacconist, a convenience store, a lolly shop, a gelato shop, a servo, a barber, a clothing shop, a restaurant or any retail outlet. Any retail premises that chooses to engage in illegal tobacco trade and support organised crime can be targeted for closure, and they'll lose their business and livelihood under these laws.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We can win this fight against organised crime. It is a disgrace that the coalition has decided to get into bed with One Nation, big tobacco and criminal syndicates to let vapes rip through a new generation of Australians and then make money by taxing them as the market grows, which it will. I'll finish on this point. I do accept that views differ as to the most appropriate policy settings. The government considers that this bill delivers important and necessary reforms that will strengthen Australia's response to illicit tobacco, better protect the community from organised criminal activity and provide law enforcement agencies with more effective enforcement tools. I commend the bill to the House.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="F2S" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Scrymgour</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  The question is that the member for New England's amendment to the member for Kooyong's amendment to the second reading motion be agreed to.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">A division having been called and the bells having been rung—</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  As there are fewer than seven members on the side for the ayes, I declare the question resolved in the negative in accordance with standing order 127. The names of those members who are in the minority will be recorded in the <span style="font-style:italic;">Votes and Proceedings</span>.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The question now is that the member for Kooyong's amendment to the second reading motion be agreed to.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question negatived.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  The question now is that this bill be now read a second time.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Message from the Governor-General recommending appropriation announced.</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Scrymgour, Marion MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
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                  <electorate>Lingiari</electorate>
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            <title>Consideration in Detail</title>
            <page.no>52</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Consideration in Detail</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill—by leave—taken as a whole.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>52</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Hastie, Andrew MP</name>
                <name.id>260805</name.id>
                <electorate>Canning</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="260805" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr HASTIE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Canning</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:33</span>):  by leave—I move opposition amendments (1) to (3) together:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) Title, page 1 (line 2), after "<span style="font-weight:bold;">2002,</span>", insert "<span style="font-weight:bold;">and to reduce customs and excise duties on tobacco,</span>".</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) Clause 2, page 2 (table item 4, column 1), omit "Schedule 6", substitute "Schedules 6 and 7".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3) Page 50 (after line 17), at the end of the Bill, add:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Schedule 7</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">—</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Reduction of tobacco customs and excise duties</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Customs Tariff Act 1995</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">1 After section 19ACA</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Insert:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">19ACD Reduction of tobacco duty rates</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) Despite anything else in this Act, each tobacco duty rate is taken, on the day (the <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">commencement day</span>) on which this section commences, to be replaced with a rate that is 20% of the tobacco duty rate on the day before the commencement day.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Treatment of indexation</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) To avoid doubt:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) in working out, for the purposes of subsection (1), a particular tobacco duty rate on the day before the commencement day, take into account any replacement of that rate that occurs before the commencement day under section 19AB; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) for the purposes of applying section 19AB in relation to the first indexation day that occurs after the commencement day, subsection (1) of this section applies when working out the tobacco duty rate on the day before that indexation day.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3) If the commencement day would, apart from this subsection, be an indexation day under section 19AB then, for the purposes of applying section 19AB, the commencement day is not to be treated as an indexation day.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Effect on other rates for tobacco</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(4) To avoid doubt, subsection (1) of this section applies for the purposes of determining an applicable rate under section 19ACA.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Which goods?</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(5) This section applies in relation to goods that are entered for home consumption on or after the commencement day.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Definitions</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(6) In this section:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">commencement day</span> has the meaning given by subsection (1).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">tobacco duty rate</span> means a rate of duty that is a tobacco duty rate for the purposes of section 19AB (see section 19AC).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Excise Tariff Act 1921</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">2 After section 6AAC</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Insert:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">6AAD Reduction of duties of excise on tobacco</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) Despite anything else in this Act, the rate of duty applicable under subitem 5.1 of the Schedule is taken, on the day (the <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">commencement day</span>) on which this section commences, to be replaced with a rate that is 20% of the rate of duty applicable under that item on the day before the commencement day.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Treatment of indexation</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) To avoid doubt:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) in working out, for the purposes of subsection (1), the rate of duty applicable under subitem 5.1 of the Schedule on the day before the commencement day, take into account any replacement of that rate that occurs before the commencement day under section 6AA of this Act; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) for the purposes of applying section 6AA of this Act in relation the first indexation day that occurs after the commencement day, subsection (1) of this section applies when working out the tobacco duty rate (within the meaning of section 6AA) on the day before that indexation day.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3) If the commencement day would, apart from this subsection, be an indexation day under section 6AA then, for the purposes of applying section 6AA in relation subitem 5.1 of the Schedule, the commencement day is not to be treated as an indexation day.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Effect on other rates for tobacco</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(4) To avoid doubt, subsection (1) of this section applies when determining the rate of duty applicable under subitem 5.1 of the Schedule for the purposes of applying sections 6AAB and 6AAC.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Which goods?</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(5) This section applies in relation to goods that are entered for home consumption on or after the commencement day.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(6) In this section:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">commencement day</span> has the meaning given by subsection (1).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia's tobacco wars have become a national organised crime crisis. We've seen hundreds of firebombings, even murders, in relation to the trade. The government estimates that organised crime groups are making between $4.1 billion and $6.9 billion in profit from illicit tobacco. In 2017 illicit tobacco accounted for around 10 per cent of consumption. By 2025 the Australian Bureau of Statistics estimated that the illicit share was around 80 per cent.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There need to be stronger measures that will potentially give our border and law enforcement agencies more-effective powers to combat this scourge, and the coalition's position on illicit tobacco could not be clearer. We support stronger legislation, better laws and tighter border controls. For that reason, we won't oppose this bill. But it does not go far enough. We need a broader response, and that's what the coalition is proposing through our amendments. We have put forward a comprehensive commonsense plan to crush organised crime gangs that are benefiting in the order of billions of dollars from the illicit tobacco industry. Our amendments would give legislative effect to some of the key components of the coalition's policy package. This includes our proposal for an 80 per cent reduction in the tobacco excise.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">An 80 per cent excise cut would see the price gap dramatically narrowed, shifting sales from the black market back into legal businesses. It would see the price of a standard pack of 20 cigarettes reduced from $30 to $6, reducing the price advantage enjoyed on the black market. Currently a legal packet of cigarettes costs around $50, with more than $30 of that coming from the tobacco excise. Meanwhile, illegal packets sell for just $15 to $20. The objective is simple: remove the huge price gap that has made Australia one of the most lucrative markets for illicit tobacco in the world. Our plan and these amendments would make it harder for criminals to undercut legal retailers. The Parliamentary Budget Office estimates that an 80 per cent excise cut is sufficient to bring legal and illegal prices into alignment, making it difficult for the illicit market to compete. This would be reviewed after two years to ensure that the illegal market cannot rebuild.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We have also proposed necessary legislative changes to establish a regulated market for nicotine vapes and nicotine pouches while maintaining strong protections for children. Under the coalition's plan, vapes and nicotine pouches will be legalised, regulated and taxed. This will replace Labor's failed pharmacy-only vape model and total ban on nicotine pouches.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Of course, not every component of our policy can be implemented through amendments to the bill. The coalition will also introduce a $200 million law enforcement surge and a $60 million public campaign educating Australians about the risks of tobacco and smoking. And Deputy Speaker Freelander, I know you're a doctor yourself, and you know how bad smoking is, and I want to make very clear that the coalition encourages all Australians not to smoke. But we need to smash the illicit tobacco trade, and that's what our amendments will do. These are administrative and funding measures. We live in a world where, regardless of the risks, people are still going to smoke. But, where we have the opportunity to address the settings that have seen the rise in illicit tobacco, we should do so. Our approach is not enforcement instead of prevention, regulation or education. It is an effort to bring those elements together.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There is a clear difference between the coalition and the other side of the House when it comes to illicit tobacco. Under the government, we are seeing more illicit tobacco, more organised crime and more Australians purchasing illegal products. The coalition wants to crush organised criminal gangs by reimposing and enforcing the law and breaking the model used to sell illicit tobacco. That's what our plan will do, and that's what these amendments set out to achieve.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>54</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Hill, Julian MP</name>
                <name.id>86256</name.id>
                <electorate>Bruce</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.text>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="86256" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr HILL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bruce</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Citizenship, Customs and Multicultural Affairs and Assistant Minister for International Education</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:38</span>):  I thank the member for Canning for the tone in which he brought that. He could probably give some tips to the other leader of the opposition about the way to prosecute an argument with substance.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government is not going to agree to these amendments. I appreciate that it's the opposition's policy to get into a bidding war with organised criminal syndicates, but that's not the government's approach. We've reached a farcical situation over the last couple of months. Last year they were talking about a 30 per cent cut to excise, then it was a 50 per cent cut, then One Nation pre-empted them and said they were going to do a 75 per cent cut, and the next week they announced 80 per cent. By next sitting week they'll be back here paying people to smoke! The difficult reality is that, despite whatever fantasy modelling or advice—if you can call it that—that underpins what passes for their policy, even if you wiped out all tobacco excise the illegal products would still be cheaper. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In addition, criminal gangs have significant elasticity in their profit margins to adjust their price downwards. This is a global issue. There's a massive surplus of cheap production of tobacco globally that's been weaponised and industrialised by these organised criminal syndicates. They're like multinational businesses. They're highly sophisticated, and they're attacking nations across the world regardless of their excise policies. That's just the reality of it. In addition, they're commodity agnostic. It's not enough. There's no magic solution. I wish there was. I genuinely wish there was, as other nations do. But they're commodity agnostic, and you've still got to go after them and dismantle them. The kind of money they're talking about just doesn't do that. Look at the money the government's investing through the federal police in chasing organised criminal syndicates onshore and offshore. You've got to think about this stuff pre border, at border and post border. Pre border, the best container of illegal tobacco is one that never reaches Australia.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm proud of the work of the Australian Border Force. They've been dialling up their international partnerships. We're working with trans-shipment points across the world—the cooperation with the Chinese customs authority has been well publicised—and with the UAE, Singapore and other nations. At border, the Australian Border Force have achieved record levels of seizures of tobacco and vapes over the last 12 months—over a kilotonne in just four months. That's a thousand tonnes through Operation Printwall, which is ongoing. Operation Printwall is still achieving those results. But it's post border that the biggest gains can and need to be made. As I said in summing up on the bill and as I've said before, we need the states and territories to dial up the urgency and shut the shops. We don't have the constitutional power to do that, but the states and territories do, and $98 million is now flowing over just two years to support them in that work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'll address the other points that were made in the amendment there. I get the seductive argument. It's a charlatan argument; it's not real, and it doesn't stack up. But I get the seductive nature of the argument around excise and price. The most pernicious and evil part of what the coalition are proposing is to let vapes rip—to legitimise and legalise vapes and put them in every corner store and to tax them. So their genius policy is to cut tax on cigarettes and legalise vapes and tax them. That's the only way it stacks up with so much revenue, which they've now spent 2½ times, since they announced their policy, on other measures. It is peak irony.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I heard the conspiracy theory of the member for Barker in his contribution—that the data wasn't right, somehow. Well, the gold standard data that was released two months ago by the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare shows that, despite everything these organised criminals are chucking at our country, adult smoking rates have continued to decline to the lowest on record—around 5.8 per cent—tracking towards the national goal of under five per cent. The government is not going to surrender those hard-won gains. Today 66 Australians will die of a smoking-related illness. Tomorrow 66 more will die, and 66 every day after that. The most important thing in the long run, though, is to stop young people ever taking it up, because if someone doesn't take up smoking by the time they're 25 they almost certainly never will. That's the pernicious evil in the vapes policy. They are not a way to get off cigarettes. If you want to do that for people, they can already go and get them on a prescription. They are a pathway to taking up cigarettes, which explains why those opposite have not released and will not release any credible modelling. They know it will kill untold thousands of Australians and condemn them to disease and early death. This idea that you let vapes rip as some kind of cool flavoured thing and then tax them is deeply irresponsible. I'll say it again: it's not the Labor Party or the government that takes donations from big tobacco and the vaping lobby. The same cannot be said for the National Party. The government's approach is to double down, not back down to organised crime.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The question is that the amendments moved by the honourable member for Canning be agreed to.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
                </p>
              </body>
            </talk.text>
            <interjection>
              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>55</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>53517</name.id>
                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
                </talker>
              </talk.start>
              <talk.text>
              </talk.text>
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          <division>
            <division.header>
              <body>
                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [17:47]<br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick) </p>
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            </division.header>
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                <num.votes>40</num.votes>
                <title>AYES</title>
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                  <name>Aldred, M. R. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Batt, D. J.</name>
                  <name>Bell, A. M.</name>
                  <name>Birrell, S. J.</name>
                  <name>Caldwell, C. M.</name>
                  <name>Chaffey, J. L.</name>
                  <name>Chester, D. J.</name>
                  <name>Conaghan, P. J.</name>
                  <name>Farley, D.</name>
                  <name>Gee, A. R.</name>
                  <name>Hamilton, G. R.</name>
                  <name>Hastie, A. W.</name>
                  <name>Hogan, K. J.</name>
                  <name>Katter, R. C.</name>
                  <name>Kennedy, S. P.</name>
                  <name>Landry, M. L. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Leeser, J.</name>
                  <name>Littleproud, D.</name>
                  <name>McCormack, M. F.</name>
                  <name>McIntosh, M. I.</name>
                  <name>McKenzie, Z. A.</name>
                  <name>O'Brien, E. L.</name>
                  <name>O'Brien, L. S.</name>
                  <name>Pasin, A.</name>
                  <name>Penfold, A. L.</name>
                  <name>Pike, H. J.</name>
                  <name>Price, M. L.</name>
                  <name>Rebello, L. S.</name>
                  <name>Sharkie, R. C. C.</name>
                  <name>Small, B. J.</name>
                  <name>Tehan, D. T.</name>
                  <name>Thompson, P.</name>
                  <name>Venning, T. H.</name>
                  <name>Violi, A. A.</name>
                  <name>Wallace, A. B.</name>
                  <name>Webster, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Willcox, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Wilson, R. J.</name>
                  <name>Wilson, T. R.</name>
                  <name>Wood, J. P.</name>
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                <num.votes>97</num.votes>
                <title>NOES</title>
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                  <name>Abdo, B. J.</name>
                  <name>Albanese, A. N.</name>
                  <name>Aly, A.</name>
                  <name>Ambihaipahar, A.</name>
                  <name>Belyea, J. A.</name>
                  <name>Berry, C. G.</name>
                  <name>Boele, N.</name>
                  <name>Bowen, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Briskey, J. L.</name>
                  <name>Burke, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Burnell, M. P.</name>
                  <name>Burns, J.</name>
                  <name>Butler, M. C.</name>
                  <name>Byrnes, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Campbell, J. P.</name>
                  <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
                  <name>Chaney, K. E.</name>
                  <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                  <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                  <name>Clare, J. D.</name>
                  <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
                  <name>Clutterham, C. L.</name>
                  <name>Coffey, R. K.</name>
                  <name>Coker, E. A.</name>
                  <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                  <name>Comer, E. L.</name>
                  <name>Cook, K. M. G.</name>
                  <name>Cook, P. A.</name>
                  <name>Doyle, M. J. J.</name>
                  <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Fernando, C. J.</name>
                  <name>France, A. A.</name>
                  <name>Freelander, M. R.</name>
                  <name>French, T. A.</name>
                  <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                  <name>Giles, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Gorman, P. P.</name>
                  <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Gregg, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Haines, H. M.</name>
                  <name>Hill, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Holzberger, R. A. V.</name>
                  <name>Husic, E. N.</name>
                  <name>Jarrett, M. L.</name>
                  <name>Jordan-Baird, M. A. M.</name>
                  <name>Kearney, G. M.</name>
                  <name>Keogh, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Khalil, P.</name>
                  <name>King, C. F.</name>
                  <name>King, M. M. H.</name>
                  <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                  <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                  <name>Le, D. T.</name>
                  <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                  <name>Marles, R. D.</name>
                  <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
                  <name>McBain, K. L.</name>
                  <name>McBride, E. M.</name>
                  <name>Miller-Frost, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, R. G.</name>
                  <name>Moncrieff, D. S.</name>
                  <name>Mulino, D.</name>
                  <name>Neumann, S. K.</name>
                  <name>Ng, G. J.</name>
                  <name>O'Neil, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Payne, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Phillips, F. E.</name>
                  <name>Plibersek, T. J.</name>
                  <name>Rae, S. T.</name>
                  <name>Reid, G. J.</name>
                  <name>Repacholi, D. P.</name>
                  <name>Rishworth, A. L.</name>
                  <name>Roberts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Rowland, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, M. M.</name>
                  <name>Scrymgour, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Sitou, S.</name>
                  <name>Smith, D. P. B. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Smith, M. J. H.</name>
                  <name>Soon, X.</name>
                  <name>Spender, A. M.</name>
                  <name>Stanley, A. M. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Steggall, Z.</name>
                  <name>Swanson, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Teesdale, J. A.</name>
                  <name>Templeman, S. R.</name>
                  <name>Thwaites, K. L.</name>
                  <name>Urquhart, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Watson-Brown, E.</name>
                  <name>Watts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Wells, A. S.</name>
                  <name>White, R. P.</name>
                  <name>Wilson, J. H.</name>
                  <name>Witty, S. J.</name>
                  <name>Zappia, A.</name>
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                <names />
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question negatived.</p>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>56</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.text>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">17:49</span>):  <span style="font-style:italic;">(In division) </span>The members for Clark and Tangney entered the chamber whilst the doors were closed. I'll ask them to remove themselves from the division.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill agreed to.</span>
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        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Third Reading</title>
            <page.no>56</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Third Reading</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>56</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Hill, Julian MP</name>
                <name.id>86256</name.id>
                <electorate>Bruce</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="86256" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr HILL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bruce</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Citizenship, Customs and Multicultural Affairs and Assistant Minister for International Education</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:52</span>):  by leave—I move:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a third time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a third time.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>56</page.no>
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            <a href="r7501" type="Bill">
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Universities Accord (Opening the Doors of Opportunity) Bill 2026</span>
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            <title>Consideration of Senate Message</title>
            <page.no>56</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Consideration of Senate Message</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Message received from the Senate returning the bill and acquainting the House that the Senate had agreed to the amendment made by the House in place of Senate amendment (36).</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Carbon Credits and Other Legislation Amendment (Integrity and Transparency) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>57</page.no>
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              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Carbon Credits and Other Legislation Amendment (Integrity and Transparency) Bill 2026</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>57</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">"the House declines to give the bill a second reading as it is of the view that:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(1) the bill:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(a) progresses the Government's failing net zero agenda;</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(b) increases lawfare, undermines responsible emissions reduction, and raises costs on industry;</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(c) repeals the 'least cost' test in favour of an opaque 'value for money' regime; and</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(d) hands the Minister for Climate Change and Energy new, unilateral powers on an unfounded basis;</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(2) the Government's deal in the Senate on Thursday, 10 September 2026, undermines the integrity of the Australian Carbon Credit Units Scheme; and</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(3) the Government must scrap its punitive carbon tax, the Safeguard Mechanism".</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That the following words be added after paragraph (3):</span>
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                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">(4) the Government must also repeal transitional Capital Gains Tax discounts for foreign investors disposing of large renewable energy infrastructure assets".</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>57</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Mascarenhas, Zaneta MP</name>
                <name.id>298800</name.id>
                <electorate>Swan</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="298800" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms MASCARENHAS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Swan</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:54</span>):  This bill amends the laws behind the Australian Carbon Credit Unit Scheme. The scheme has delivered more than 190 million tonnes of abatement from more than 2,600 projects since 2011. This is a value of more than $4 billion. Two separate independent reviews, the Chubb review in 2022 and the Climate Change Authority's review in 2023, have reached the same conclusion: the scheme is working. The Climate Change Authority's most recent review found that it remains fundamentally sound and important to Australia's climate change policy framework.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In my home state of Western Australia, on Wanjina‐Wunggurr country in the Kimberley, fire has been used to care for and protect the land for thousands of years, guarded by lore and knowledge passed down through generations. Traditional owners have always known about how to read this country and how to look after it the right way at the right time of the year. What they learned through generations of careful observation is the same science that we now rely on. It hasn't been replaced by modern research; it's been confirmed by it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Under the Australian Carbon Credit Unit Scheme, landholders, businesses and Indigenous corporations run projects that avoid emissions or store carbon, earning one credit for every tonne of carbon dioxide equivalent that they abate. Those credits can be sold to the Commonwealth directly, to companies meeting obligations under the safeguard mechanism or to businesses who voluntarily offset emissions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In 2021, Wilinggin Fire Project was awarded the 100-millionth carbon credit issued under the scheme nationally. It's run by Wanjina‐Wunggurr Aboriginal Corporation on country in the north of Kimberley. Two ranger groups, Wunggurr Rangers and Nyaliga Rangers, carry out this work. They burn early in the dry season deliberately and carefully to stop the far more destructive wildfires that come later. The income this generates funds ranger jobs. It funds the protection of threatened species and also sacred sites. It funds the passing on of this knowledge to the next generation because every year older traditional owners walk younger ones through country and teach them to burn the right way. A peer-reviewed study covering Kimberley traditional owner groups Balanggarra, Dambimangari, Wilinggin and Wunambal Gaambera found some remarkable things. Here's a super fun fact: measured per person, nobody in this country is pulling more weight on reducing greenhouse gas emissions than the traditional owners of the North Kimberley. This is the exact kind of community that this bill is designed to protect.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It makes sure that the next Wilinggin, that next community doing this work on their own country, has a genuine legal right to consent before a project goes ahead, not just a promise that consent will eventually follow. For the first time, registered native title claimants will have a formal legal right to consent before a carbon project can be even registered on their land. Under the existing law, a project can be conditionally registered and run for up to five years before consent from traditional owners is actually required. The project exists first, then the negotiation happens after, with the bargaining power sitting on the wrong side of the table. Under this bill, consent comes first. It introduces a genuine two-stage process: upfront consent before an application can proceed, and a second, separate consent on exactly how the project will be carried out before a single credit is issued. It brings the ACCU scheme into line with the same standards already applied under the government's nature repair scheme, and it reflects the principle of free, prior and informed consent that traditional owners have been asking to be honoured for years.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill also replaces the old Emissions Reduction Assurance Committee with a new Carbon Abatement Integrity committee for the first time. That committee will be legally required to include at least one Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander person. This is the body responsible for overseeing the integrity of every method used across the entire national scheme, and communities who have been doing this work longest will now have a guaranteed seat at the table. The Indigenous Land and Sea Corporation and the Indigenous Carbon Industry Network have both welcomed these changes. Native title was first recognised in this country in 1993. This bill applies the same principle to the modern carbon market—a real say for traditional owners over their country. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill also strengthens the integrity of the scheme more broadly. It gives the minister a new power to require a project to transition off a method if it's found to pose a genuine risk to the scheme's integrity, with safeguards built in, consultation, advice from the committee and the regulator, and enough time for proponents to move to an alternative method rather than losing income literally overnight. It moves the responsibility for purchasing ACCUs to the department, with a new mandate to weigh value for money rather than lowest cost alone so factors like First Nations cultural benefit and regional economic impact can actually count in the government's decision making, not just price. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It also allows a single project to credit both sequestration and emission avoidance activities together, supporting the kind of integrated farm management methods our agricultural sector has been asking for. It strengthens transparency under the National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Act so that the public has better visibility of corporate emissions data. It fixes a technical timing issue in the New Vehicle Efficiency Standard. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">All of this rests on one thing continuing to exist, and that is the safeguard mechanism. It's fascinating because the safeguard mechanism is a policy that was introduced under a coalition government. It was introduced with the whole point of safeguarding emissions increases across the economy. What's fascinating is that the Leader of the Opposition has committed to abolishing the safeguard mechanism. The safeguard mechanism is what requires Australia's largest industrial polluters, more than 200 of the country's biggest facilities, to buy carbon credits when they exceed their legislative emissions baselines. It is the single biggest source of demand for Australian carbon credit units. It is what has taken this scheme from one where the government was the main buyer, propping up a market with taxpayer money between 2014 and 2023, to one now driven by genuine private compliance demand. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I know this firsthand. Before I worked in the federal parliament, I worked in decarbonisation, helping companies set their emissions baselines under this very mechanism. Under the coalition, those baselines were so generous that I'm going to say that the safeguard mechanism had no teeth at all. It was not safeguarding anything whatsoever. It's interesting because the point of the safeguard mechanism is to make sure that we don't see increases in the economy. I also worked on projects where we saw fantastic greenhouse gas reductions. This included CBSP's nitric acid plant in Western Australia, where a new catalyst bed was used to reduce their nitrous oxide emissions., one of the most potent greenhouse gases there is. I have to say that there were many companies in Western Australia that were leading the way to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. I also worked in mining operations where we were looking at replacing diesel powered plants with gas and renewable energy such as solar and wind turbines. They were doing this because it is the cheapest form of electricity available to these mines. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm proud to be part of a government that accepts the science on climate change. To achieve our greenhouse gas reduction goals, it's not good enough for some companies to lead the way. What we actually need to do is see the whole economy decarbonise. To mitigate greenhouse gas emissions, that's what we need to do, and do you know what? Climate change is happening now, whether it's seeing floods in Queensland, bushfires in Victoria or the recent floods in Nepal. We really need to make sure that this has a direct contribution to the lives of people in not only Australia but also the world more broadly.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Markets also have a role to play. Global frameworks like the Task Force on Climate-Related Financial Disclosures are pushing listed companies to disclose their climate risks so that investors can make better decisions. This was introduced through the global stability board. Basically, the goal of that board is to make sure that financial markets are stable, so what it showed was that, by disclosing risks, investors can understand those risks in a much more detailed way and fundamentally make better investment decisions. But this only works if companies are listed on the stock exchange. It doesn't reach every polluter and it doesn't replace every legislative compliance obligation. Most companies won't reduce emissions if they don't have to, and that's why the government still has a job to do here.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This government reformed the safeguard mechanism in 2023, which turned it into a genuine declining baseline compliance system. That is when it actually started driving demand and putting money behind carbon abatement. In his budget reply this year, the Leader of the Opposition called it a carbon tax and pledged to tear it down altogether, which is ridiculous because it was a policy that they introduced. If you take away the safeguard mechanism, you remove the reason a polluter has to buy a credit from a Kimberley ranger program, a Wheatbelt farmer or anyone else that's doing this work. You take away the markets these communities now rely on and you replace it with nothing.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We can't forget the substantive issue at the heart of so much of what this government is doing. Too many Australians are locked out of opportunity, whether it's the housing market or a fair share in the economic transition this country is going through. This bill is part of making sure that the transition includes everyone—not just the polluters, who've always had a seat at the table, but the traditional owners, who have been managing this land for tens of thousands of years, and the farmers and landholders across Western Australia and Australia who are just beginning to see what this scheme can do for them.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The United Nations Environment Programme released a report last month that confirmed what scientists have been warning for years. On current trajectories, the world is likely to breach the 1.5 degree threshold at the heart of the Paris Agreement in the next few years, not the next decade. That is exactly why the mechanisms in this bill and the broader task of decarbonisation cannot be treated as settled and left alone. Policy has to keep up with the pace of science. A scheme built in 2011 needed this update in 2026, and this government has a responsibility to keep reviewing and strengthening these mechanisms. This bill strengthens a scheme that already works. It gives traditional owners a genuine legal say over what happens on their country. It guarantees Indigenous representation on the board that policies the whole scheme's integrity. It protects the market that pays for ranger jobs, cultural knowledge and real emissions reductions. I commend this bill to the House.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>59</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">McCormack, Michael MP</name>
                <name.id>219646</name.id>
                <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="219646" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr McCORMACK</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Riverina</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:09</span>):  There is a whole lot not to like about the Carbon Credits and Other Legislation Amendment (Integrity and Transparency) Bill 2026. The coalition will oppose this bill, which we see as being fundamentally flawed and a regressive net zero piece of legislation. The bill very much expands Australia's native title regime, it removes the least cost financial test, and it hands the minister sweeping new carbon credit powers. These are things which the coalition cannot support.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to step through some of the issues around the native title elements—certainly in relation to this bill, but it's happening right across a large tract of New South Wales, and elsewhere, right now. A report dated 13 October 2026, by Oliver Jacques, in Region Riverina absolutely underlines the concerns many in south-west New South Wales have in relation to a massive native title claim covering areas around Wagga Wagga, Griffith, Leeton and Narrandera. Those last three centres largely form the Murrumbidgee Irrigation Area—already under pressure because of water buybacks by this federal Labor government, already concerned that the buybacks have not stopped. Indeed, only recently, there was another 86 gigalitres purchased, mostly out of the southern connected system—trying to reach that illusory target of 450 gigalitres set by former prime minister Julia Gillard on the banks of Goolwa in 2012. That takes productive farming water away from the world's best environmentalists—and they are our farmers—for no environmental gain whatsoever.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I say that because farmers are under more pressure now than ever before, and the native title elements of this bill, and other things that are happening at present, are of great concern to our food producers. Our growers of food would be very alarmed at the fact that, only today, in Sydney, there was a nest of fire ants discovered. They are already alarmed at the prospect in the west, where this Labor government is dismantling the live sheep trade to the Middle East, and that process is going on. They are already concerned that we are in an El Nino event, and they well remember that it wasn't that long ago that, with the Bureau of Meteorology suggesting we were about to go into a very prolonged dry spell, every farmer who had sheep in the paddock took them to process—ewes, mutton, older sheep, lambs, potential breeding stock, you name it. What we are faced with now is a reduction of the national herd. I had a conversation just last Friday with Will Barton, who owns and operates the lamb processing plant at Gundagai, and he is very concerned about what he may do with this reduced stock, given the fact that Trade Minister Farrell is out spruiking that we are going to fill all these gaps and that the good times are ahead for our sheep producers and for our balance of payments—well, not so if we don't have the flock to process, not according to Mr Barton, and I think I would very much take heed of what Mr Barton said if I were Minister Farrell. It is a concern.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Now, with the native title claim in southern New South Wales, the Southern West Wiradjuri people have launched Federal Court proceedings, seeking recognition of traditional rights and interests in land and waters across the Riverina. On behalf of descendants of 29 named ancestors, seven representatives were nominated to progress this particular claim. Now, I heard the member for Swan talking about, as part of this legislation, in her concluding remarks, the fact that we are in a housing crisis, and we are. I would suggest that the last thing that our developers need when we are in the midst of a housing crisis is more bureaucracy placed over what they do. There are fears that the native title claims could create yet another hurdle, yet more bureaucracy and yet increased red tape for developers whilst we have this housing crisis.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It is difficult enough for developers to open subdivisions. I am encouraged by the fact that there are some subdivisions going ahead at Wagga Wagga—at Rowan, south of the city—at Boorowa, a little town which is really looking to grow; in the Yass Valley; and elsewhere in my electorate. But I am concerned that developers will face this myriad of compliance and red tape. Certainly, with native title claims going ahead, what does that do for their ability to get on? It's already hard enough getting through local government sometimes, with development applications and getting those approved, let alone having another layer of bureaucracy placed upon them. Our planning laws already have too much bureaucracy, and our developers don't need yet another layer on top of that.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The coalition is concerned with the changes to native title arrangements. Currently, the Carbon Credits (Carbon Farming Initiative) Act 2011 provides for the conditional registration of eligible offsets projects on native title land before the consent of eligible interest holders has been obtained. Now, in practice this means that a project may be established for up to five years, the first reporting period, before being required to provide evidence to the Clean Energy Regulator that eligible interest holders' consent has been obtained to undertake a particular project. This bill, certainly in section 27 and the following one, drastically upends this particular process. The bill establishes that a mere claim to native title would become an eligible interest. What would happen then? Someone wanting to establish a carbon abatement project would have to deal with a claim to native title regardless as to whether that title actually exists or exists at law. What we will see will be a picnic for lawyers—an absolute picnic. It will be payday for lawyers. The new approvals process will be part of a more onerous, cumbersome—call it what you like—two-stage consent process for setting up a carbon abatement project.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Among other things, the Clean Energy Regulator, at section 32, would be permitted to unilaterally revoke a proponent's project declaration any time prior to the first reporting period—that five-year period—if there is no reasonable prospect the consent will be obtained between proponents and eligible interest holders. We acknowledge that native title has been in place for more than 30 years in Australia, but the bill before us does go too far—way, way too far. The first thing that strikes you is 'what is this proposed change actually fixing?' My father was very practical. My late father, Lance, a good farmer, always used to say, 'If it ain't broke, why fix it?' Under the current carbon credits regime, native title holders already have absolutely rock-solid legal protections. We know that because we read about it often in judgements. We see it regularly. This includes that a project proponent must obtain consent of the native title holder, and there is a built-in right to negotiate. Each year I go to the Minerals Council dinner and each year I have always heard Tania Constable and her predecessors with that august organisation talk about the negotiations—the good faith negotiations—that the mining sector has with native title holders. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What we as the coalition are concerned about is that this is overreach. According to the Carbon Indigenous Industry Network, who obviously support this bill and have met personally with the assistant minister, 11 per cent of Australia's landmass is currently under native title claim and awaiting a decision to be made by the Federal Court as to the area's native title status. But I would argue that, in a situation where we need more homes, where we need farmers to produce more food and where we need to have progress not inhibited by court decisions, court delays and procrastination, does this just throw up more compliance and more unnecessary red tape than we actually can afford? This is what I fear is happening with the Carbon Credits and Other Legislation Amendment (Integrity and Transparency) Bill 2026.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Under the current act, the government can purchase carbon credits with regard to whether that purchase is being conducted at least cost to achieve carbon abatement. In effect, the act requires the government to purchase carbon credits without having an undue financial impact, and the coalition would argue that this is prudent. It's entirely appropriate, but Labor wants to remove the least-cost test and instead replace it with what could only be seen as an opaque value-for-money test. Why? Who would know? This means that the government could buy very expensive carbon credits if it were satisfied that the purchase would achieve 'value for money'. What this value for money might be is—wait for it—not specified in the act. Why would it be! Why would the government do that!</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It's a little bit like what you read the budget papers, which I do sitting up in bed of a night. I see the minister at the table and the Deputy Speaker both grimacing, but, yes, that's what I do; I sit up and read legislation. I sometimes actually—</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="265979" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Dr Freelander</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  'Each to his own,' I say. Each to his own!</span>
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                    <a href="219646" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr McCORMACK:</span>
                    </a>  You would expect me to do that and say that. When you read the budget papers, you will come to page four hundred and something and you will see—certainly when it comes to water purchases—NFP. One could surmise as to what 'NFP' might stand for, but I reckon it's 'not for publication'. I reckon that's what it stands for. It really beggars belief that, in the budget papers that are talking about the financial document, the blueprint, the vision for the nation, the federal Labor government sometimes won't acknowledge or actually put down in black and white how much it intends to spend on water buybacks, and that is wrong. You could argue that, when the government goes in and purchases water, it distorts the water market, and that is very much the case. By the same token, at the same time, the government has an obligation to fess up to how much it intends to spend on this unnecessary quest to provide the Commonwealth Environmental Water Holder with even more water. The CEWH already has 72 per cent of available water in the Murray-Darling Basin. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But I digress. I think you get the point. I could go on and on about Indigenous water that's going to become part of the claim. I could go on and on about the native title claims. This does worry me. I do not want to see it stymie progress, stymie development or upset the chance of actually addressing the housing crisis. The coalition does not agree at all with this particular legislation. It's unnecessary.</span>
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                  <page.no>60</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Freelander, Mike MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>265979</name.id>
                  <electorate>Macarthur</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
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                  <page.no>60</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">McCormack, Michael MP</name>
                  <name.id>219646</name.id>
                  <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
                  <party>NATS</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>61</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Jarrett, Madonna MP</name>
                <name.id>298574</name.id>
                <electorate>Brisbane</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="298574" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms JARRETT</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Brisbane</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:24</span>):  Protecting our environment, including our transition to net zero, is fundamental to ensuring that there is a future world for future generations—for my kids and everybody else's. It's certainly something my community of Brisbane cares deeply about, including the very young people who are too young to vote and who I met earlier in this House today. That's why I rise to speak in support of the Carbon Credits and Other Legislation Amendment (Integrity and Transparency) Bill 2026. At its core, this bill is about trust: trust that when Australia issues a carbon credit it represents a genuine emissions reduction or carbon storage outcome; trust that businesses investing in our carbon market can rely on storage rules and effective oversight; trust that farmers, landholders and First Nations communities who are participating in carbon projects are treated fairly; and trust that, as Australia transitions to net zero, the systems supporting that transition are transparent, credible and accountable. If carbon credits are to play a meaningful role in reducing Australians emissions, Australians have every right to expect that those credits have integrity.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian Carbon Credit Unit Scheme has become an important part of Australia's climate policy. It rewards projects that avoid emissions or remove carbon from the atmosphere through activities such as restoring native vegetation, improving land management, and supporting new emissions reduction technologies. These projects can provide additional income for farmers, they can create jobs in regional communities and they offer opportunities for First Nations communities to combine economic development with caring for country. They also give businesses flexibility while they work towards reducing emissions at the source. But all these benefits depend on one thing, and that's integrity. The carbon credit has value only if people have confidence in what it represents. If one Australian credit unit is meant to equal one tonne of emissions avoided or removed, Australians must have confidence that the abatement is real. That's why integrity must be built into the architecture of the carbon credit market.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our government has listened to many independent reviews, including the Chubb review and reviews by the Climate Change Authority and the Australian National Audit Office. None of them recommended abandoning the scheme. Instead, they recommended strengthening it, and that's exactly what this legislation does. One of the most significant reforms in this bill strengthens the recognition of First Nations rights and interests. It's not overreach, as referred to by those opposite. Carbon projects often involve land, and in Australia land issues frequently intersect with native title. Under these reforms, consent requirements for projects on native title land will be strengthened, and registered native title claimants will be recognised as eligible interest holders.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Importantly, consent will be required earlier in the process. That matters, because consultation should not be a box-ticking exercise. Genuine consultation occurs before key decisions are made. It allows people to understand proposals, raise concerns and negotiate agreements. It builds partnerships rather than seeking approval after decisions have already been made. These changes provide greater certainty for project proponents while better recognising the rights of First Nations Australians and aligning the scheme more closely with the principles of free, prior and informed consent.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill also reforms governance arrangements by replacing the Emissions Reduction Assurance Committee with the new Carbon Abatement Integrity Committee. This committee will provide independent expert advice on the methodologies used to generate Australian carbon credit units. Methodologies are important, and they sit at the heart of the carbon credit market. They determine how emissions reductions are measured, what evidence is required and what activities qualify. Their credibility is critical to the integrity of every carbon credit. The new committee will have enhanced independence, broader responsibilities and stronger transparency requirements. It will also include at least one Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander member, ensuring that First Nations knowledge and perspective contribute to safeguarding the integrity of Australia's carbon market.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill also strengthens institutional independence. Responsibility for regulating carbon projects will be separated from responsibility for future government purchasing of carbon credits. The future Commonwealth purchasing function will move from the Clean Energy Regulator to the Secretary of the Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water. This reform responds directly to the recommendation from the Chubb review and establishes a clear separation between regulation and purchasing decisions. The legislation also shifts government purchasing arrangements from a narrow focus on least-cost abatement to a broader value-for-money approach. That matters because many carbon projects deliver benefits beyond just emissions reduction. Projects may improve biodiversity, restore habitats, strengthen soil, support regional employment and advance First Nations land management. Considering these broader outcomes does not weaken fiscal discipline; it recognises value more comprehensively. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill also introduces safeguards to address serious integrity risks when they emerge, and one such safeguard is the method transition declaration. This mechanism is intended for exceptional circumstances where a methodology is found to present significant integrity risk. Importantly, it is designed as a circuit breaker, not a routine intervention. Farmers and businesses need certainty when making long-term investments, and government should not change the rules arbitrarily. However, certainty cannot come at the expense of integrity. When compelling evidence reveals that a methodology is failing to deliver genuine abatement, there has to be a mechanism to respond. This legislation provides that mechanism while surrounding its use with safeguards, criteria and consultation requirements. This reflects the balance at the heart of this bill: certainty for participants and accountability for outcomes. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill also strengthens provisions for relinquishing carbon credits. Project proponents will be able to voluntarily relinquish credits where credits have been issued because of, say, incorrect information. The Clean Energy Regulator will also gain stronger powers to require relinquishment where updated information reveals overcrediting. The principle is simple. If credits have been issued for abatement that did not occur, this system must be able to correct that record. Integrity isn't just about making the right decisions initially; it is about correcting mistakes when they are discovered. Similarly, the regulator's compliance powers will be strengthened, including powers to address decisions based on false and misleading information and issue infringement notices for lower-level breaches. While these reforms may appear technical, they are essential. Credible markets depend on clear and enforceable rules. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill recognises that integrity and innovation must also go hand in hand. Australia's path to net zero will require new technologies and new approaches to emissions reduction. Researchers, farmers, universities and businesses must be supported to develop and test innovative ideas. Current arrangements can sometimes create unintended barriers by treating legitimate research and development activities as inconsistent with project eligibility requirements. This bill addresses that issue through more tailored arrangements that support innovation while maintaining integrity. The legislation also creates flexibility for future methodologies to recognise projects that combine multiple emissions-reduction activities. For example, a landlord may simultaneously reduce agricultural emissions and increase carbon storage through revegetation. Our carbon markets should be capable of recognising the sophistication of projects that meet robust integrity standards. That's how we encourage innovation. It's how we broaden participation and ensure the scheme evolves alongside science and technology. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The reforms also extend beyond carbon credits. The bill strengthens the National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Scheme, Australia's key framework for collecting information on greenhouse gas emissions and energy production and energy consumption. This data underpins major components of Australia's climate policy, including the safeguard mechanism and Australia's domestic and international emissions-reporting obligations. The legislation increases flexibility around the publication of reporting data, promoting greater transparency. Climate policy should be informed by credible and accessible information. Australians should be able to track progress. Researchers should be able to analyse trends, and governments should be accountable for results. The bill addresses practical administrative issues including reporting requirements where registrations may have been delayed and deregistration of corporations, say in liquidation, that are unlikely to continue participating in the scheme. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, the legislation makes targeted amendments to the new vehicle efficiency standard by adjusting the timing of key compliance milestones and calculations. These changes provide greater certainty to the automotive industry and help ensure the framework operates effectively as intended. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There is a broader principle running through this legislation. Climate policy is not strengthened simply by setting ambitious targets. Targets matter, but institutions matter too. Measurements matter, transparency matters, governance matters, independent scrutiny matters, and public confidence matters. Australians expect that emissions reductions claimed by governments are genuine and measurable. Businesses expect transparent and consistent market rules. Farmers and landholders deserve certainty, and First Nations Australians deserve meaningful recognition of their rights. Taxpayers deserve confidence that public funds are spent wisely. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That's why this bill matters. It's not simply about carbon accounting; it's about strengthening the institutions that Australia will rely upon during one of the most significant economic transformations in our history. There are enormous opportunities in that transformation. Regional communities can benefit, farmers can benefit, First Nations communities can benefit, researchers and innovators in Australian industry can benefit, and our environment—and therefore our society—benefits. But those opportunities will only endure if systems supporting them are credible. Integrity is not a barrier to the growth of Australia's carbon markets; it is what makes growth possible. Transparency is not unnecessary red tape; it's what creates confidence. Independent oversight is not inconvenience; it protects the reputation and value of the entire system. Continuous improvement is not an admission of failure; it's the hallmark of responsible government. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor has a proud record of protecting our environment, and this bill supports that. We've established Australia's first national environment protection agency. We've strengthened environmental laws with higher penalties for serious breaches—new protection orders, for instance. We've passed laws requiring large polluters to cut emissions, putting Australia on the path to net zero by 2050, with a commitment to reduce emissions by 62 to 70 per cent by 2035. We're working towards 82 per cent renewable electricity by 2030 too, with more than 140 renewable projects approved to help power Australian homes and businesses. We've protected an additional 95 million hectares of ocean and bushland and now protect more ocean than any other country in the world. We established Environment Information Australia and doubled funding for national parks, including Kakadu and Uluru. We continue to support the Indigenous rangers, including doubling their numbers to help manage feral animals and weeds and protect native species. We're investing in restoration projects that protect threatened plants and animals. We've cleaned up urban rivers and improved recycling capacity. We've established the world's first nature repair market and invested in protecting the Great Barrier Reef through better water quality, stronger environmental protections and climate action. And we ratified the high-seas biodiversity treaty and strengthened water security through projects across Australia, including in remote and regional First Nations communities. It's quite the list and something this government is very proud of. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese Labor government understands that Australia's transition to net zero must be economically responsible, environmentally credible and socially fair. This is careful reform, it's evidence based reform, and it's another important step towards building a cleaner, more competitive and more sustainable Australian economy. It's about policies that deliver genuine emissions reduction while creating opportunities across the country. That's the purpose of this bill, that's why these reforms matter and that's why I commend this bill to the House. </span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>63</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Steggall, Zali MP</name>
                <name.id>175696</name.id>
                <electorate>Warringah</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms STEGGALL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Warringah</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:39</span>):  I rise to speak on the Carbon Credits and Other Legislation Amendment (Integrity and Transparency) Bill 2026. This legislation goes to a fundamental question: can Australians trust that the emissions reductions being claimed by the government through this legislation are actually happening? Remember that, many times, these claimed reductions through carbon credits and other schemes are what have been used to justify the continued approval of coal and gas projects—in particular, new ones. Whilst members in this place have listed the achievements and commitments that the government has made, they certainly do not continually also list the over 37 projects that have been approved under the Albanese government's watch.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That takes us to why it is important that the carbon credits system be robust and work. Every carbon credit used to offset climate pollution carries a promise that somewhere an equivalent amount of greenhouse gas has been avoided or removed from the atmosphere to counter the other effect. If that promise is not kept, the pollution continues and climate risks escalate and grow. Communities and households concerned about insurance costs, businesses investing in decarbonisation and farmers doing the hard work of restoring their land all deserve a scheme whose environmental claims stand up to scrutiny. For a business deciding whether to invest in cleaner equipment or buy credits, the rules shape where its money goes. Investors, businesses and landowners need confidence that the credits being traded represent real value and real decarbonisation. If confidence in the market is undermined, legitimate projects and responsible participants will suffer. During the debate on the safeguard mechanism in 2023, I argued that emissions from our biggest polluters must come down and called for much stronger methane monitoring and reporting. Three years on, that has still not been actioned by the Albanese government, but those principles remain essential. Our largest emitters must invest in reducing their own pollution, using credits to address residual emissions that are difficult or impossible to eliminate. Carbon credits must not become an excuse to postpone that investment or expand fossil fuel production while claiming progress towards net zero.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Nevertheless, there are worthwhile reforms in this bill. I welcome stronger consent requirements for native title holders and registered claimants and the requirement for Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander representation on the integrity committee. That stronger consent really must represent informed consent, to make sure that there is proper disclosure of information to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples impacted by projects. Strong consent processes are essential, but consultation alone is not enough. Carbon projects should deliver benefits for country, biodiversity and local communities alongside carbon outcomes. First Nations people should be partners in the design, governance and delivery of projects that affect their land and waters. Transferring responsibility for future government carbon credit purchasing away from the Clean Energy Regulator is also sensible. It helps separate purchasing decisions from regulation. Stronger powers to correct overcrediting and publish emissions information are welcome. The changes to the new vehicle efficiency standard also address a timing problem in its compliance arrangements.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These improvements deserve support, but the government must also confront the scheme's harder integrity problems. The first is the strength and independence of the proposed Carbon Abatement Integrity Committee, or CAIC. Renaming the existing committee and broadening its functions will achieve very little unless it has the resources and authority to challenge the assumptions behind the credits being issued. At its core, integrity means that a carbon credit represents a real climate benefit: a lowering of climate pollution. That requires projects to be additional, meaning that the activity would not have happened anyway. It requires permanence so emissions reductions are not later reversed—it must be permanent climate pollution reduction. It requires safeguards against leakage where emissions are simply shifted elsewhere. And it requires accurate crediting so one tonne of claimed abatement genuinely reflects one tonne of climate pollution benefit.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Under proponent-led method development, commercial participants help design methods from which they may benefit financially. Their expertise is valuable, but their incentives make independent scrutiny essential. Climate Integrity's submission identifies practical reforms that the government should adopt. The committee needs its own scientific capacity to test those proposals, examine the underlying evidence and commission independent assessments. It must be able to recommend rejecting a method where the evidence shows it could award more credits than the emissions reductions would, in fact, justify. Where evidence is uncertain, we should take a cautious approach to awarding credits. Australians should be able to understand why a method has been approved and what would trigger a review.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Stronger safeguards against conflicts of interest are also needed. I support a five-year restriction on former committee members taking paid roles in carbon credit trading, project development and related advisory work. Conflicts should be publicly disclosed. The evidence behind crediting decisions should be available for scrutiny, with clear limits on claims of commercial confidentiality. The committee should report annually to parliament on integrity concerns and any ministerial decisions that depart from its advice. That would help ensure emerging problems are addressed promptly.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The second issue I want to raise is how projects move away from methods with serious integrity problems. The bill introduces a method transition declaration to help move affected projects onto another method. That is sensible in principle, but the protection must be clear. The change must improve integrity. If a project has received credits for carbon savings it cannot demonstrate, if it can't show a reduction in climate pollution0, moving it into a different method does not make that problem disappear. This is critical, particularly for projects intended to regenerate native forests through changes to land management. Research has raised serious questions about whether some projects are, in fact, delivering the additional forest growth claimed. Those findings are contested, and the regulator defends its checks. That makes independent assessment and access to the evidence all the more important. I call on the government to put a clear protection against backsliding in the legislation. Any transition should face independent scrutiny, with excess credits identified and corrected and being required to be returned where appropriate.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Another side where the system is failing in integrity is around methane pollution that is not properly counted. Accuracy in measuring the pollution that companies are responsible for has to be the starting point for this to have any credibility. We know methane escaping from coal, oil and gas operations is a particularly powerful driver of warming in the near term, in the first 20 years. Gaps in its measurement and independent verification risk understating the pollution entering our atmosphere. Remember, every time a question is put to the government as to justification for approving a new fossil fuel project or gas project, we get the answer that that is taken care of through the safeguard mechanism, which then relies on the offsetting through ACCUs. None of that stacks up with any credibility if we are not properly measuring the actual emissions that these projects represent.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I've previously called for fossil fuel companies to properly measure their methane emissions and make that information public. Australians are entitled to independently checked figures that they can trust. Underreported emissions not only means deceiving the public for the emissions but also that the government is deceiving the international community as to the current and true state of emissions. Overstating carbon savings and understating pollution both allow polluters to avoid responsibility and the government to fool and, I think, defraud the rest of the world. Australia's climate policies must address both.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Proper investment in monitoring infrastructure, combining satellite observations with measurements on the ground—when those measurements tell a different story from a company's report, the discrepancy in methane emissions must be investigated and resolved. Verified emissions data must inform what companies are required to do under the safeguard mechanism. Underreporting must be corrected, and the rules must be enforced. Accurate measurements also help identify where pollution can, in fact, be cut. Because that's the good news in all of this; there is plenty of technology and opportunity to cut methane pollution. It is actually one of the lowest hanging fruits available to us. It beggars belief that the Albanese government has already sat on this for three years without doing anything about it, because this will drive action. Companies will fix leaks. They will reduce emissions at their source. They will adopt the technologies that already exist and are available.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The failure, of course, has consequences for people well beyond the carbon market. Climate damage from pollution reaches into every household budget through insurance premiums, repair bills and the cost of rebuilding after disasters. It damages public infrastructure and puts our health and safety at risk. We need to start to talk about climate related inflation because, at the moment, that is a huge driver of the cost-of-living crisis that we have, yet no-one is actually acknowledging that part. In Warringah we've seen the rapid rise of insurance costs due to increasing climate risk. In fact, over about the last five years, I believe, insurance premiums have increased by 50 per cent. It is one of the fastest growing inflationary measures of a household budget, whether it is home-and-contents insurance or full house insurance.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I've repeatedly called for greater investment in adaptation and resilience, with major polluters contributing to the cost. It is time polluters pay. The responsibility cannot keep falling on communities and taxpayers. What happens when infrastructure fails is that local governments are left to pick up the bill, and that means they pass on that cost to local citizens and our communities. They have to pay for it through levies and greater rates.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This week, I've launched a climate resilience green paper calling for a climate pollution levy on coal, oil and gas corporations to help fund climate resilience and preparedness. Companies have profited from activities that drive climate harm. They should contribute fairly to protecting communities and helping them recover. It is time for polluters to pay. That contribution would support practical action: safer homes, better urban infrastructure, nature based solutions that can help communities withstand the conditions ahead.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But preparation alone is not sufficient. Efforts must be accompanied by faster cuts to climate pollution. We need to reduce the harm while preparing for the risks already upon us. What's amazing is there is no other industry that we just allow to continue to pollute with impunity. We've dealt with that in so many ways, yet fossil fuel companies still enjoy a system where we allow them to pollute with impunity, with subpar processes of accountability.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For the people of Warringah, climate action and integrity have always gone together. This bill is an opportunity to strengthen both, but that requires independent oversight, carbon credits backed by evidence, and honest reporting of the pollution those credits are used to offset. So I urge the government to ensure major polluters take responsibility for their emissions and contribute fairly to the costs they impose on our communities. Australians are entitled to expect that a bill promising integrity and transparency actually delivers that in practice.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, I think we have to be honest. There's a trust gap between what the Albanese government does here at home and what it says and commits to and the announcements it makes internationally. Having attended pre-COP in Fiji and seen the commitment from the Prime Minister and the minister to our Pacific neighbours around caring for the dire straits they find themselves in—we have to have that accountability at home when it comes to the approval of more coal and gas and those extensions, because the reality is that we are putting fuel on the fire, we are making the situation worse, every time we approve another project. You cannot just justify those decisions on the basis of the carbon offset scheme and the safeguard mechanism if that system does not have the integrity to genuinely show that there is real climate pollution abatement occurring through those offsets. So I urge the government to match their actions at home with the announcements and commitments they make to our Pacific neighbours.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>65</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Coker, Libby MP</name>
                <name.id>263547</name.id>
                <electorate>Corangamite</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms COKER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Corangamite</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:53</span>):  For my communities across the Bellarine, Surf Coast and Geelong region, the impact of climate change is absolutely real. Locals understand that protecting our coastline, oceans and the hinterland means taking meaningful action to reduce the emissions driving climate change. And they're not alone; I know so many Australians take the same view. It's why the Albanese government has a target of net zero emissions by 2050, and one of the tools that will play an important role in achieving this target is the carbon credits mechanism.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Carbon Credits and Other Legislation Amendment (Integrity and Transparency) Bill 2026 is about making sure the carbon credits mechanism works as it should. The Albanese government is a reforming government, and that's why we're delivering this bill to ensure the market contributes to Australia's emission reduction efforts. On top of that, we need to give Australians more confidence that those credits represent real and genuine abatement, because this is not always the case. Under the coalition government, carbon credits were misused. The scheme was watered down. It lacked the robust guardrails needed to ensure the scheme delivered its objectives to significantly reduce emissions. This bill, through stronger oversight of how credits are created, greater transparency about the projects involved and better protections for people whose rights and interests may be affected, makes the difference. This bill will make important changes in each of these areas. It means better protection for significant environmental landscapes and recognises that genuine carbon storage capacities is vital to emissions reduction. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill responds to recommendations from the independent review of the Australian Carbon Credit Units Scheme, led by Professor Ian Chubb, and reviews undertaken by the Climate Change Authority. So it's based on sound foundations. It strengthens oversight of carbon credits, improves transparency and provides clearer rules for landholders and businesses while giving greater recognition to First Nations rights and interests. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill establishes the Carbon Abatement Integrity Committee. This will replace the existing Emissions Reduction Assurance Committee and provide independent advice to government on the integrity of ACCU methods. This is a positive step in the right direction. The new committee will have broad functions, enhanced expertise and stronger transparency obligations, and it will be required to include at least one Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander member, because good decision-making benefits from having the right expertise. That's particularly true when it comes to First Nations knowledge and perspective. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the key roles of the committee will be to advise government on the development of new carbon abatement methods. We want people developing new ways of reducing emissions to be able to participate, and we want to make sure that new methods meet the integrity, standards and safeguards our communities expect. This provides an important safeguard through the introduction of the methods transition declaration. This gives the government a mechanism to respond to exceptional circumstances where a method used by a proponent is found to be illegitimate and a risk to the integrity of the scheme. This gives government an important backstop to ensure nothing slips through the cracks. People who have invested in projects need certainty and, importantly, the regulator needs to respond when new information identifies a serious integrity problem. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill also makes changes to how the scheme allows proponents to relinquish ACCUs. Project proponents will have a voluntary pathway to correct the record when they have provided incorrect information that leads to receiving ACCUs. The regulator will also have stronger powers to require relinquishment where new or updated information identifies inappropriate overcrediting. The bill also recognises that regulation needs to be workable. That's why our measures to simplify administration and reduce regulatory burden are so important. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill also allows for new methods that combine storing carbon with reducing emissions. For example, an integrated approach to farm management could support projects that restore native vegetation while also helping farmers reduce methane emissions from livestock. A farm is a whole system, and this approach absolutely reflects the way many farmers actually operate. These changes can support a broader range of participants coming into the scheme while maintaining its integrity. There's also an important regional dimension here. For communities like mine in my electorate of Corangamite, climate policy is increasingly part of the economic conversation. Farmers are considering new markets, businesses are looking at new technologies, and landholders are considering how they can improve their properties while responding to climate change. That's where the nature repair scheme can be applied. The Albanese government is absolutely committed to ensuring regional communities have opportunities to participate in the transition, and the ACCU scheme can provide one of those opportunities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill also makes changes to government purchasing of ACCUs. The bill changes the purchasing principle from securing least-cost abatement to making value-for-money purchases. That allows government to consider the broader benefits that can come from carbon projects alongside the emission reductions they deliver. Those benefits can include better biodiversity outcomes, regional economic activity and land management improvements. That's particularly relevant for regions like mine, where a carbon project could deliver several benefits at the same time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill also strengthens transparency and administration under the National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Scheme. This scheme is such a significant source of information about greenhouse gas emissions, energy consumption and energy production across our economy. As we work together towards our emission reduction targets, we need reliable information about where emissions are coming from and how they're changing. We want to see emissions continue to come down, and we want to ensure our communities have confidence in the scheme that is delivering those results.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the most important elements of this bill is the strengthening of First Nations rights and interests in the ACCU Scheme. The bill changes the arrangements for projects on land that is recognised or claimed as native title land. Consent will be sought upfront, through a structured process, rather than being dealt with after a project has already been registered. This gives native title holders greater awareness of proposed projects from the outset. It also gives project proponents a clearer process for engaging with rights holders. The bill also recognises registered native title claimants as eligible interest holders. These are important changes, because our First Nations people—people who have longstanding connections to our landscapes—should have a meaningful role in the decisions affecting country, and I know that is important for you, Deputy Speaker Scrymgour. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The carbon market is operating in places where people live and work. It is operating on farms, across bushland and in communities where people are making long-term decisions about how they manage their land. These projects affect people making long-term decisions about their land. Landholders need clear rules, communities need to be properly consulted, and First Nations' rights and interests must be recognised right from the outset. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The final part of this bill concerns the new vehicle efficiency standard. The bill adjusts the timing of several key milestones under the scheme. For industry, certainty around those timelines is important. Businesses make investment decisions over many years. They need to understand the requirements they will be working towards and have enough time to adjust their vehicle mix. These changes provide that certainty while supporting the emissions reductions the standard is intended to deliver.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As we strengthen the foundation of our carbon market, the transition to net zero will involve large industries, small businesses, farmers, landholders, researchers and communities. There will be different pathways in different parts of our nation, and regional communities will have an important role to play. In my electorate we know the value of agricultural land, our natural environment and the people who manage it, from farmers to small businesses and local government. We also know that change works best when people have the opportunity to understand it, participate in it and benefit from it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese government has committed more than $75 million since 2023 to deliver reforms to the ACCU scheme, informed by the independent reviews and consultation with scheme participants. The bill is the next step in that piece of work. It recognises that maintaining integrity is an ongoing responsibility, and, as the carbon market develops, our rules will need to continue to be reviewed and improved. That is a strength of the scheme. We can support participation while maintaining strong standards. We can encourage innovation while protecting integrity.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For the Bellarine, the Surf Coast and the wider Geelong region, those opportunities are worth pursuing. Our farmers, our landholders and our regional businesses deserve a carbon market they can have confidence in. They deserve rules that are clear, fair and workable. And Australians deserve confidence that the emissions reductions represented by this scheme are genuine. The Carbon Credits and Other Legislation Amendment (Integrity and Transparency) Bill 2026 makes important progress towards those objectives. I would like to thank the Minister for Climate Change and Energy and the assistant minister for their work in strengthening our ACCU scheme, and I commend the bill to the House.</span>
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                <page.no>67</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Haines, Helen MP</name>
                <name.id>282335</name.id>
                <electorate>Indi</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr HAINES</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Indi</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:05</span>):  I rise to speak on the Carbon Credits and Other Legislation Amendment (Integrity and Transparency) Bill 2026. Australia's carbon credit system provides a framework through which individuals, businesses and communities can undertake emissions reductions projects and be rewarded by earning Australian carbon credit units, or ACCUs, for every tonne of carbon-dioxide-equivalent emissions that is avoided or stored. It plays an important role in our progress towards lowering emissions, and it presents unique opportunities for farmers and regional landholders to participate in and benefit from the energy transition.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The debate has moved on from whether carbon markets should exist. The reality is that they do and they must. The question is how to ensure they operate with the integrity, the transparency and the accountability that's required. Carbon markets have the potential to support regional economies, reward good land stewardship and provide additional income streams for local farmers and businesses. The landholders I speak to want to play their part in reducing emissions. They're ready to harness these opportunities, but they can't get there alone. It's why I fought so hard for sustainable agricultural facilitators, and it's why I support measures to improve the integrity of the ACCU framework. Regional communities deserve a carbon market that they can rely on, that they can trust, that they can be proud of.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Much of this bill responds to recommendations arising from the Independent Review of Australian Carbon Credit Units, better known as the Chubb review, and reviews conducted by the Climate Change Authority. Those reviews identified a number of improvements to strengthen the integrity, transparency and administration of Australia's carbon credit scheme. Evidence based policymaking is not just about commissioning reviews and gathering information; it requires governments and parliaments to act in response to what's been learned. In that sense, this bill is walking the walk.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill makes a number of amendments to improve the transparency, integrity and effectiveness of the ACCU scheme. It renames and reforms the independent statutory committee, which will be known as the Carbon Abatement Integrity Committee, allowing it to advise on method development priorities, review methods before they expire, seek independent advice, undertake longer public consultation and publish more of its work. The committee's governance and composition will also be improved through better conflict-of-interest requirements and greater clarity about the kinds of expertise its members should have.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill facilitates investment in research and development by relaxing 'newness' requirements that have inadvertently penalised early operations and failed to accommodate the stop-start nature of iterative projects. The bill also makes important changes to consent requirements for projects on native title land. It replaces the existing system of conditional registration—which the Chubb review found was at odds with the principles of free, prior and informed consent—with an upfront, two-stage consent process that requires proponents to engage with native title holders and claimants before projects are registered. This allows for earlier, more genuine negotiations and gives all participants more certainty about what best practice actually looks like. In addition, the bill amends the National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Scheme to allow additional information to be disclosed under the regulations.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the key measures in this bill is the minister's ability to make method transition declarations, which prevent the ongoing issue of ACCUs if they are based on methodologies that don't stack up. Now, this is important because the value of carbon markets depends entirely on the integrity of the carbon credits. When an ACCU is issued, it must represent genuine and additional reduction or abatement. To make a declaration, the minister must be satisfied that a method no longer complies with the offset integrity standards and that its continued use would pose a material risk to the integrity of the ACCU scheme. The minister must seek advice from the independent committee on these matters, and the committee must consult publicly before providing that advice. Once the initial threshold is met, there are a number of other conditions that must be met, including the availability of suitable alternatives for all affected projects and various matters that the minister must have considered. And the minister must undertake separate public consultation before deciding to make a declaration. Once the declaration is made, the relevant methodology becomes superseded and within a specified time frame cannot be used to earn any further ACCUs.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Critics of these declarations say they reduce certainty for participants and investors—and they're right; it does create uncertainty if approved methods can be taken away again in the future. I'm sympathetic to the argument that the time to assess the integrity of methods is when they are first approved. Ultimately, that's the system we're working towards. But the reality is that the science is still evolving, and it's appropriate to ensure that we have mechanisms to protect the integrity of the scheme when it becomes apparent that we need to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The provisions of this bill include additional limitations and safeguards that were not in the exposure draft, which have been welcomed by proponents and other market participants. And the assistant minister has confirmed that declarations are intended to be used as a circuit breaker in exceptional circumstances and not as a tool for routine intervention. However, other stakeholders question whether the power is in fact too limited and conditional to serve its purpose. For example, method transition declarations can be made only if the minister is satisfied that an alternative method exists for all affected projects. This protects projects that were commenced in good faith, but it does create a paradox whereby the most-problematic methods—the ones without any credible equivalent—might not be subject to a declaration, because they are such outliers.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I note that the member for Mackellar has put forward amendments that respond to this very issue and that make other changes to preserve the integrity of the declaration regime, and I'll support those amendments. I've put forward amendments myself to recognise the unique risks to agricultural productivity and domestic food security that are posed by substandard methods. Many offset projects take place in high-rainfall, high-biomass areas that overlap with productive agricultural land. These areas in fact look a lot like parts of my own electorate, where reliable rainfall, productive soil and established natural assets provide ideal conditions for both primary production and carbon farming. The ability to earn ACCUs for offset projects obviously changes how landholders assess all their options. Most of the time it's simply a matter of opting in to gain some extra productivity. Carbon sequestration and agricultural production coexist peacefully and are often mutually beneficial, improving production of the land.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">However, in some instances there's an unavoidable trade-off. Where ACCU-earning projects displace agricultural production, it's especially important that the underlying methodologies are sound. There must be a real environmental return on the loss of agricultural capacity. Choosing to participate in carbon projects instead of farming is a significant decision. Landholders need confidence that they're opting into a system with high standards, strong oversight and genuine return on investment. Low-integrity offset methods pose unique risks to Australia's agricultural productivity and domestic food security where they incentivise land use changes that aren't supported by credible evidence. This can lead to overconversion of land, avoidable path dependence and reputational damage, not just to the carbon economy but to landholders participating in good faith. Most projects are long term, and land is finite, so these risks indeed compound over time. When deciding whether to make a method transition declaration, the minister should be required to consider the individual and cumulative risks to agricultural productivity and domestic food security as well as the effect that making the declaration would have on those risks.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'd like to thank Farmers for Climate Action for their work on this issue and acknowledge their tireless advocacy on one of the most significant challenges facing Australian agriculture and regional communities: climate change. Farmers are committed stewards of the land. They have much to lose from unmitigated climate change, and they are critical to the success of the ACCU scheme. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The reforms before the House are not perfect, but they are largely a step in the right direction. Public trust requires ongoing scrutiny, regular review and a willingness to make improvements where they are needed. I support this bill and I'll support further refinements in future if they are warranted.</span>
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                <page.no>68</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Moncrieff, David MP</name>
                <name.id>316540</name.id>
                <electorate>Hughes</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr MONCRIEFF</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hughes</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:15</span>):  Right across this country, Australians are getting on with the job that eluded those opposite for the entire duration of their government. They're putting up solar panels, installing batteries, taking up EVs in record numbers and investing in progress. Decarbonisation comes in the form of millions of daily decisions made by businesses and households throughout the economy—and, increasingly, many of these decisions are influenced by the growth in and success of Australia's carbon market.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian carbon market is one of the largest, most effective and highest integrity schemes of its kind anywhere in the world. Under the Australian Carbon Credit Units, or ACCU, scheme, thousands of consumers and businesses are running projects that reduce or avoid greenhouse gas emissions or remove and store carbon directly from the atmosphere through sequestration. Since its inception in 2011, the ACCU scheme has abated an extraordinary 190 million tonnes across more than 2,600 projects. Today, it underpins a carbon market valued at over $4 billion. Participants run projects that reduce emissions or store carbon through installing cutting-edge technology, upgrading heavy industrial equipment, changing practices to fit productivity and lower energy use, and improving the way our landscapes and vegetation are managed. The scheme is playing a critical role in helping Australia achieve our ambitious emissions reduction targets, including our legislated 2030 targets and commitments to reach net zero by 2050.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The ACCU scheme extends beyond carbon metrics to deliver substantial economic, social and cultural benefits for Australians too. Contrary to some of the things you might hear from those opposite, the transformative power of the ACCU scheme is felt most acutely in the regional, rural and remote communities of Australia. In many ways, ACCUs have become an important agricultural commodity. They are giving farmers and landholders the ability to diversify their income streams, droughtproof their businesses and attract new private capital. Through soil carbon sequestration, plantation forestry or reforestation through environmental and Mallee planting, the ACCU scheme makes environmental stewardship profitable. According to the independent Carbon Market Institute, carbon projects can provide landholders with diversified income and improved cash flow through carbon farming projects. The market for carbon farming is attracting more capital into Australian agriculture, with the safeguard mechanism acting as a critical driver of demand. By pricing carbon emissions, these settings incentivise emissions reductions while also encouraging investment to flow into projects such as restoring vegetation, protecting waterways and active land management. Public finance also plays a complementary role through institutions such as the Clean Energy Finance Corporation, helping de-risk investments in new areas and crowd in large-scale private capital investments.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">High-intensity carbon markets provide a mechanism to connect private capital with farmers and land managers that are working to improve environmental and emissions reduction outcomes. And this bill, the Carbon Credits and Other Legislation Amendment (Integrity and Transparency) Bill 2026, directly supports farmers and landholders. But don't just take my word for it. According to the National Farmers' Federation, these reforms strengthen confidence in the ACCU scheme and improve the integrity and transparency of carbon markets.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The scheme is also helping to advance Closing the Gap targets by creating robust employment and economic opportunities for First Nations communities. In northern Australia, First Nations cultural fire practices are being channelled into carbon capture and the prevention of devastating wildfires. Under the ACCU scheme, these practices are encompassed in two new savanna fire ACCU methods, generating an estimated $7.7 billion across northern Australia. Almost three-quarters of all carbon credits generated through savanna fire management come from Indigenous owned businesses, with the revenue from these cultural burning projects supporting job security, education initiatives, Indigenous ranger programs, preserving cultural heritage and empowering traditional owners in remote communities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill strengthens the recognition of native title rights by ensuring project proponents obtain eligible interest holders' consent before an ACCU project can be declared on native title land. By treating registered native title claimants as eligible interest holders, the ACCU scheme will align with the procedural rights under the Native Title Act and embed the principles of free, prior and informed consent. It allows traditional owners to negotiate fair benefit-sharing arrangements and protect their cultural heritage before the commencement of projects.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill ensures that the key architecture of our climate policies support Australia's emissions targets while delivering cheap, reliable energy, efficiently facilitating decarbonisation across our economy and delivering benefits for local communities. It provides the certainty that is so critical for reducing risks that threaten sustained investment and confidence in our $4 billion carbon market across the broader energy transition. It delivers on our commitment to implement the recommendations made by the independent Chubb review into the Australian carbon credits, in careful consultation with industry, businesses and First Nations communities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill amends the Carbon Credits (Carbon Farming Initiative) Act 2011, the National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Act 2007 and the national vehicle efficiency standard framework. The National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Scheme provides a national framework for companies to report information regarding greenhouse gas emissions, energy production and energy consumption. The data collected through this reporting framework provides reliable evidence for governments to design effective climate policies while also holding large industrial emitters accountable to national reduction targets and integrity in energy markets. Our amendments enable increased transparency in emissions and energy data submitted under the reporting scheme, streamlining arrangements for publishing data, giving investors and the public confidence in the data driving the energy transition.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In 2024, the Albanese Labor government passed our world-class new vehicle efficiency standards. For decades, Australia has been treated as a dumping ground for inefficient, fuel-guzzling engines because previous governments lacked the courage to mandate efficiency standards. Imported cars sold in Australia were less fuel efficient than cars of the same make and model in markets with more demanding standards. But while it might be cheaper for manufacturers to produce a less fuel-efficient car, the fuel costs over the vehicle's life cycle can be vastly more expensive for consumers and fleet buyers. Our new vehicle efficiency standards give car manufacturers bigger incentives to produce more fuel efficient cars. In combination with our electric car discount, which reduced cost barriers to people buying cleaner vehicles, our efficiency standards have contributed to a massive take-up in hybrid and EV adoption.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The data backs this up. Just last month, EV sales in Australia overtook those of petrol cars for the first time in history. And guess what? The weekend is still here. Drivers across the country are embracing cheaper cars and greater choice. New vehicle sales figures show that more than 27,000 battery electric vehicles were sold, representing 24.9 per cent of all new vehicle sales, a record monthly high. Last month's EV sales skyrocketed by 171 per cent compared to the same month last year, with battery EVs outselling traditional vehicles, with 25,824 sales.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Under the new vehicle efficiency standards, regulated entities submit annual data concerning their emissions and the mass of the vehicles they import. This calculates an initial emissions value. If a manufacturer imports low-emission vehicles and achieves a negative value, they earn compliance units that can offset positive balances over the following two years. Manufacturers with a positive value can purchase these units to reduce their final emissions value down to zero and avoid civil penalties. This 'cap and trade' scheme allows market participants the flexibility to purchase units and improve emissions according to their needs while delivering more fuel-efficient vehicles to consumers in the most cost-efficient way.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The CEO of the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries recognised that the evidence increasingly demonstrates that the new vehicle efficiency standards are encouraging manufacturers to bring more low-emission vehicles to Australia, which increases both consumer choice and the technology available. The amendments made in this bill correct a drafting anomaly in the original legislation that restricted the window in which entities could utilise these units to adjust their initial emissions value which, if left uncorrected, would unnecessarily limit a manufacturer's ability to trade or apply units earned from importing low-emission vehicles. This bill fixes that gap, which gives automotive manufacturers the regulatory certainty to plan their future fleet imports and arrange unit trading without administrative distortions and gives the industry the ability to keep delivering affordable, low-emission vehicles for Australian families.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">By strengthening the governance of the Australian Carbon Credit Unit Scheme, our government is lowering risk for investors in order to unlock billions in private capital for regional and remote Australia. A robust carbon market supports skilled research jobs and innovation in agriculture, forestry management and environmental restoration, which delivers real growth dividends from decarbonisation. When it comes to climate change and the energy transition, we know that those opposite are no friends of markets. What we saw from the coalition for their entire term in office was a series of slogans and focus grouped phrases with no delivery—meaningless incantations, like 'technology, not taxes', with no detail about what technology looks like. Even worse were their attempts to pick politically favoured winners through furphies like nuclear energy or backing in ageing and unreliable coal assets when the market is moving away from it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese Labor government's approach is delivering real results by setting the right conditions for market actors to drive the clean economy transition, crowding in private capital and delivering real economic benefits to farmers, landholders, regional areas and First Nations communities. We came to government after inheriting a broken national energy grid that was plagued by a decade of policy failure and attempts to paper over this failure by changing the law to hide energy price rises. Our government overhauled the safeguard mechanism, which ensures Australia's 212 largest industrial facilities reduce their emissions in a fair, orderly and predictable way. We introduced the Capacity Investment Scheme, which drives enormous amounts of investment in dispatchable renewable energy generation and firming storage to strengthen the grid's reliability as ageing coal power plants retire. We invested $20 billion into Rewiring the Nation to modernise our electricity grid in order to connect low-cost renewable energy zones to major population centres and industrial hubs.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Upgrading our transmission network is essential. It is absurd for those opposite to claim, as they so often do, that we wouldn't need to invest in transmission if it weren't for the rollout of renewables. Australia's transmission network is one of the oldest and most extensive in the world. Between now and 2050, Australia's energy consumption will surge. Coal power plants will close, whether those opposite like it or not. Energy generated from solar and wind farms will increase. The notion that a coalition government would stand athwart the market to keep expensive and unreliable coal assets alive isn't just illiberal; it is absurd. It's just as absurd as the myth that nuclear reactors could replace coal power plants and plug into the grid without requiring new transmission. The transmission lines are already close to capacity from renewables, and a fleet of nuclear reactors would likewise require new transmission, which is the exact thing that those opposite are so fervently against.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This side of the House recognises that it is our government's responsibility to build the transmission network of the future, not to delay, obfuscate and perpetuate the myth that there is some alternative energy system where this investment would not be required. Those opposite can continue to engage in the culture wars of 15 years ago. The Albanese Labor government is getting on with the job and getting it done. Our government introduced cheaper home batteries, which makes rooftop solar and domestic energy storage accessible to everyday households. We know that batteries are critical for storing and firming. More batteries are good for the grid. The Albanese Labor government is delivering cheap, reliable power while building the new green manufacturing industries of the 21st century. This bill strengthens Australia's world-class carbon markets, delivering real benefits to farmers and landholders, regional communities, energy users and First Nations communities. I commend this bill to the House.</span>
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        <page.no>71</page.no>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">ADJOURNMENT</span>
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              <span style="font-weight:bold;">The DEPUTY SPEAKER (Ms Scrymgour):</span>  It being 7.30 pm, I propose the question:</span>
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            <span class="HPS-Small">That the House do now adjourn.</span>
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          <title>Raise Our Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>71</page.no>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Raise Our Voice in Parliament</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>71</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Boele, Nicolette MP</name>
              <name.id>26417</name.id>
              <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="26417" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BOELE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:30</span>):  'What is one big issue shaping your future, and what is a meaningful action you want parliament to take on it?' Raise Our Voice asked women and gender-diverse people under 25 years of age to write a speech in response to that question. We received many speeches from my electorate, all more clear eyed, moving and honest than much of what gets spoken in this place. So it's my absolute pleasure to read two of them today.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The first was written by Eve, who is 13:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Our generation is told that we are the future, yet it feels like people's actions are <span style="font-weight:bold;">denying</span> us a future.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Climate change isn't just something we hear about, it's affecting <span style="font-weight:bold;">all our lives</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">In 2019, bushfires <span style="font-weight:bold;">ripped</span> through my neighbourhood,</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">schools were <span style="font-weight:bold;">evacuated</span>, and </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">friends lost … <span style="font-weight:bold;">pets and homes</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Animals are becoming <span style="font-weight:bold;">extinct</span>. Droughts and floods are causing</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">food shortages,</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">water contamination and</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">loss of lives.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">We keep prioritising <span style="font-weight:bold;">short-term benefits</span> and forgetting the <span style="font-weight:bold;">long</span><span style="font-weight:bold;">-</span><span style="font-weight:bold;">term cost</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">We must <span style="font-weight:bold;">not</span> lose sight of the ongoing challenge of climate change with other events taking place in our world.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Every year we <span style="font-weight:bold;">increase</span> the greenhouse gases in our atmosphere.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Global temperature has <span style="font-weight:bold;">already</span> risen by 1.5 degrees Celsius since 1910,</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">causing 70% of coral reefs to die, among other things.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">If this increases by an additional <span style="font-weight:bold;">0.5 degrees</span>, our coral reefs will be <span style="font-weight:bold;">destroyed</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I ask the Parliament to tax use of all fossil fuels to discourage use.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Then use the taxes raised to develop infrastructure for <span style="font-weight:bold;">renewable energy</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Make renewable energy <span style="font-weight:bold;">accessible and affordable</span> for <span style="font-weight:bold;">everyone</span>. lncentivise 'being <span style="font-weight:bold;">net zero</span><span style="font-weight:bold;">'</span>. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Educate</span> our community on accessing environmentally friendly ways of running households,</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">businesses</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">and schools.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">We need a today where our environment comes first, so that we can have a tomorrow.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The second speech was written by Sophia, who is 23:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">It's the year 2050. I'm 46 years old.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Summer keeps stretching longer.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I tell my daughter we can't go to the beach today because the heat is <span style="font-weight:bold;">too dangerous</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Instead, we stay <span style="font-weight:bold;">inside</span> with the blinds closed, listening to the air conditioner hum.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I show her photos of the reef I once dived,</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">and tell her about turtles,</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">colourful corals and </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">fish she's <span style="font-weight:bold;">never seen</span> with her own eyes.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Bushfire smoke has become a <span style="font-weight:bold;">familiar smell</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">We turn on the news, only to see another flood. Another community rebuilding.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">More families <span style="font-weight:bold;">forced</span> to <span style="font-weight:bold;">leave the places</span> they once called home because they can no longer afford to stay.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">When my daughter asks,</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">'Didn't people know this was happening?'</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                  </span>I don't know what I'd say.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That is <span style="font-weight:bold;">one</span> possible future.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">But it <span style="font-weight:bold;">doesn't </span>have to be ours.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The <span style="font-weight:bold;">biggest issue </span>shaping our future is our planetary crisis.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I've come to realise this isn't <span style="font-weight:bold;">just </span>a climate crisis. It's a crisis of the systems we've built.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Everything is connected from</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">our oceans,</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">our food,</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">our economy,</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">our biodiversity,</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">our communities</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">and our wellbeing.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Pull one thread, and <span style="font-weight:bold;">everything else</span> moves.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Today, Australia has a <span style="font-weight:bold;">choice</span>. As we prepare to co-host COP31, we can help <span style="font-weight:bold;">change</span> the <span style="font-weight:bold;">course of history</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I'm calling on Parliament to take three actions:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">1. <span style="font-weight:bold;">stop approving </span>new fossil fuel projects,</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">2. establish an <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ocean Sovereignty Fund</span> to protect the ecosystems that protect us, and</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">3. <span style="font-weight:bold;">ensure young people</span> have a <span style="font-weight:bold;">genuine voice</span> in the decisions shaping our future.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Because <span style="font-weight:bold;">none of us</span> has a crystal ball.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The future <span style="font-weight:bold;">isn't</span> something we predict, it's something we <span style="font-weight:bold;">create</span>, beginning with the choices we make today.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Let's create an Australia where our economy <span style="font-weight:bold;">thrives</span> because our planet thrives.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Where <span style="font-weight:bold;">Indigenous knowledge and science</span> shape the future together.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Where our Pacific neighbours are our <span style="font-weight:bold;">partners</span>.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Where our oceans are protected because they protect us.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">And where <span style="font-weight:bold;">every </span>young person has the opportunity to help shape the future they'll inherit.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">So … when the next generation asks what we did</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">when we had the chance to choose a different future...</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">we can tell them we chose courage.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to sincerely thank everybody who submitted to me their speeches for Raise Our Voice. It was incredibly moving—very powerful—and today I've read just two around the issue of climate. It gives me great confidence that these young people are using their voice. Through their local representative, they are having their voice heard, and it's my sincere hope and aspiration that people in this House heed the voice of our young people—who aren't yet able to vote, for example—and act in the long term for their futures.</span>
              </p>
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        </speech>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>72</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Housing</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>72</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Campbell, Julie-Ann MP</name>
              <name.id>312823</name.id>
              <electorate>Moreton</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="312823" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CAMPBELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moreton</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:35</span>):  One thousand, one hundred and thirteen is the number of people in my local electorate who have purchased their very first home under the five per cent deposit scheme, and 1 October marked one year since the introduction of that scheme. Not only have those just over a thousand people been able to buy their first house in Brisbane's south side but 280,000 people have benefited across our nation. It's easy to think of these as simply numbers on a page or as simply adding another one and another one. But it's important to remember that each of those numbers represents a family, each of those numbers represents a story and each of those homes will become a place where more stories are created. The doorframes in those homes will have notches added to them to measure the heights of the children who will grow there. The kitchens will see conversations of so many different things, both joyous and profoundly sad. There will be a room that'll transform from a nursery into a teenage hangout in the blink of an eye. These stories are not just about a house. They're the fulfilment of that great Australian dream. Young Australians don't want to rent a house that they're paying off for someone else; they want to own one where they can build their future.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In recent weeks I've been doing work in the community in Runcorn and talking to people about housing. For too long, people have struggled to own a home of their own. The challenges have been building over many years, or, as the Minister for Housing would put it, this has been cooking for four decades. We have a supply challenge in this country, and there's not one solution to it. It's multifaceted, and what this Labor government is doing is throwing the kitchen sink at it. We all know that having a safe, secure and affordable place to call home is fundamental to people's wellbeing. The keys that you put in that door aren't limited to just opening that door. The keys open personal security, the keys open more reliable job opportunities and the keys open economic freedom. Labor is doing something to put those keys into young people's hands.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The $47 billion Homes for Australia plan includes significant investment in social and affordable housing, homelessness services and support for people experiencing housing insecurity. The largest social and affordable housing investment in a generation, including delivering 55,000 new social and affordable homes, is a stark contrast to the none that we saw in two terms from those opposite. More than 7,000 of those homes have already been completed, and another 22,000 homes are in planning or construction right now. There is a $1.2 billion investment in crisis and transitional accommodation for women and children escaping family and domestic violence as well as young people who are experiencing or are at risk of homelessness. There is a five-year housing and homelessness agreement with states and territories. The Commonwealth is providing $9.3 billion to support new social housing and homelessness services across the country.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Help to Buy Scheme is the first national shared-equity scheme and is supporting the construction of 100,000 homes reserved for first home buyers so they don't have to compete with investors. Almost 1.5 million households are benefiting from increases to Commonwealth Rent Assistance. We are working with states and territories to strengthen renters' rights. There is $60 million for youth housing incentives that will help more than 4,300 young people, young Australians established secure tenancies. No Australian should be without a safe place to live and every number added to that tally is a new Labor success story. </span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Labor Government</title>
          <page.no>73</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Labor Government</span>
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              <page.no>73</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Willcox, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>286535</name.id>
              <electorate>Dawson</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
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                  <a href="286535" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WILLCOX</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Dawson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:40</span>):  Well, it's obvious to everybody the wheels have fallen off the Albanese Labor government's car. As a matter of fact, it's worse than that. Their axle is broken. They've lost the faith of the business community. They've lost the faith of the average Australian. They have certainly lost the faith of every single person that has a look at what they do. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But, in welcome news, I'm pleased that they've performed a few backflips. I think that's a good thing. They haven't—</span>
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              <a href="265970" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Josh Wilson interjecting</span>—</span>
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                  <a href="286535" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr WILLCOX:</span>
                  </a>  backflipped out of the car, but I'll take the interjection. They've scrapped the cap on veterans' allied health, one of the most ridiculous policies that I've ever seen. The Albanese Labor government wanted to cap the veterans' allied health at $5,000. These fine men and women, these veterans, put the uniform on. They signed up their blood, sweat and tears for this great country. And then, all of a sudden, the Albanese Labor government wanted to cap their services at $5,000. That is ridiculous. I'm pleased those opposite succumbed to pressure from the opposition and got rid of the cap. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">At the end of last week they decided to scrap the disaster funding arrangement. That arrangement has always been 75 per cent 25 per cent. Then the Albanese Labor government wanted to make it fifty-fifty. But after pressure from the local governments, state governments and the federal opposition at the end of last week they said, 'No, we won't do that. We'll honour the 75-25 arrangement.' </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But there's more to do. I want to see the government have a really good look at the reductions they've done to the working holiday maker visas. Now, in my electorate of Dawson, we rely on the working holiday makers. We rely on them in the agricultural sector, in the tourism sector and the hospitality sector because they fill the gaps. They come and pick the fruit when the farmers have flushes and there are no local people to do the job. They make coffees and pour beers in school holidays and in peak times down in places like the Whitsundays. They make beds. They serve in the hospitality industry. They go out on the boats for marine tourism and provide crew. If you listen to the working holiday maker, when they're not actually working, they're holidaying and they're spending that money back in Australia. The drastic reductions the Albanese Labor government want to make to the working holiday makers needs to be turned around, and I hope that we'll see that coming very soon. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Then there's the assault on small business. I don't know what those opposite have got against small business. Small businesses are doing it tough. Their mortgages have gone through the roof. Electricity prices have gone through the roof. Thanks to those opposite, their compliance costs, their red and green tape, are being increased every single day. And now there's a credit card surcharge. That is another cost. If we're going to stop the credit card surcharge, stop it at the bank level. Don't make small businesses pay that extra money. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">A travel agent in my electorate has contacted me. She's from Wulguru in Townsville. She said, 'Andrew, what you've got to realise with travel is that people book a long way in advance. So if they're going on a cruise or an overseas holiday, they book a long way in advance, and we price that.' But what happens now that surcharge has come in? They can't change their pricing. This is something that the travel agent has got to wear. I've been contacted by an auto electrician, a small auto electrical business, in my hometown of Bowen. It's a family business, and they're saying that these credit card surcharges are really going to hurt them. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But the ATO came out and said, 'Well, we're not going to accept credit cards.' They are one of the biggest organisations in the country, and they're not going to accept it. So the Treasurer stepped in and said, 'No, we'll make that go a little bit longer.' So I'm calling on the Treasurer to do the same thing for small business. If it's good enough for one of the biggest organisations in the country to be changed, why not look after small business? I'm sick and tired of seeing the Albanese Labor government assaulting small business. They should be providing all the support for small business they possibly can. </span>
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                <page.no>73</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Mr Josh Wilson interjecting—</name>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>73</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Willcox, Andrew MP</name>
                <name.id>286535</name.id>
                <electorate>Dawson</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Windsor Community Children's Centre</title>
          <page.no>74</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Windsor Community Children's Centre</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>74</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burns, Josh MP</name>
              <name.id>278522</name.id>
              <electorate>Macnamara</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="278522" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURNS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Macnamara</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:45</span>):  The Windsor Community Children's Centre is saved, and it is here to stay. I thought that I would never be able to deliver this speech in this place, after years of advocacy and hard work by so many in my incredible electorate, but I am so proud to be here in the House of Representatives to say clearly and without any reservation that the deal is done and that all we need to look forward to next year is how many young little learners will be able to walk through the incredible doors of the Windsor Community Children's Centre. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This campaign was one of the most inspiring and big-hearted things that I have ever had the privilege of being a part of in my time as a member of parliament. It was led by the parents. After 2023, when Swinburne University declared that they were going to sell the land and it wasn't going to be available for Windsor to continue the lease, the Save WCCC campaign began. It was led by a group of people who just would not give up and would not believe that the noes that they heard time and time again were going to result in the closure of this incredible early education service. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to pay a very special tribute to Romi, Jonathan, Alistair, Samantha, Fiona and Sophie, who led the campaign. This group of people were the Save WCCC campaign members, and they were relentless and persistent and believed that they could get this done. Despite being told by Swinburne, the state government and so many others that there wasn't a pathway forward, this group of people believed in providing high-quality early education in one of the most beautiful parts of my electorate, with this incredible garden and this amazing service for people. They wanted it to stay open and believed that it should stay open, and they made it happen. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I also want to pay tribute to Sam Vale, the centre director, who has been so stoic and impressive throughout this whole journey. Sam leads an amazing service. She cares so much about the kids, cares about running a high-quality early education service and has been such a big part of this whole campaign. She and her team really were a big reason why this needed to stay open. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I also want to pay tribute to all of the Stonnington councillors who voted to agree to the purchase, including Councillors Jami Klisaris, Tom Humphries, Kate Hely and Meghan Hopper—who did a power of work liaising with WCCC—and the mayor, Melina Sehr, who from the very beginning was steering this from Stonnington's end. She is an amazing person who also got married during the campaign, and I congratulate her and thank her for all of her efforts in leading Stonnington through this. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">And, of course, there's Swinburne University, who originally decided that they weren't going to sell the land for below market rate but actually did come to the party in the end. I thank the outgoing vice-chancellor, Pascale Quester. One of the final things she did before she left Swinburne was to ensure that this deal was done, and I thank her and all of her colleagues. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I need to thank my state parliamentary colleague Ryan Batchelor, who was there in the trenches with me and was looking for ways to navigate this and help navigate through all of the different state government hoops and hurdles that needed to be overcome. Ryan is an outstanding parliamentarian, and I just couldn't have gotten this through without him. I really wish him all the very best for the Victorian election. He's a good friend and a very good parliamentarian. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to thank my colleagues, many of whom came to the service—Minister Aly, Minister Clare and Minister Walsh—and their entire staff, who really helped continue this campaign to support my community. I thank all of them and their teams, especially in those difficult moments. And I thank Minister Catherine King for her support throughout the election and to ensure that we brought $4.3 million to the table to help make this deal possible. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But, ultimately, this is a story about a group of people who took on three layers of government. They had this amazing custodianship of a little early education centre with a big heart, amazing grounds and an amazing facility for these young learners, and, despite being told no, this group of people showed what is possible. If you believe in something and you pursue it hard enough and long enough, anything is possible. WCCC is saved.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Kalgoorlie Rail Realignment Project, Phosphine Pesticide</title>
          <page.no>75</page.no>
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              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Kalgoorlie Rail Realignment Project</span>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Phosphine Pesticide</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>75</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wilson, Rick MP</name>
              <name.id>198084</name.id>
              <electorate>O'Connor</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="198084" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr RICK WILSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">O'Connor</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:50</span>):  Tonight I rise to inform the House of the importance of the Kalgoorlie Rail Realignment Project not just for the Goldfields region of my electorate but also for the rail corridor between Western Australia and the east coast. It is so important, in fact, that the former coalition government committed $2 million in 2021 for the Western Australian state Labor government to complete a business case. The WA Labor government, however, does not seem to be interested in supporting the mining and resource sector across Western Australia, nor the community of Kalgoorlie-Boulder. It has taken over four years to assign the business case study to Deloitte and Arup through the Goldfields-Esperance Development Commission.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This bold nation-building project has the potential to reshape freight movements across the Goldfields and Western Australia for generations to come. Kalgoorlie-Boulder sits in the heart of the rail corridor via the Trans-Australian Railway, which runs from Adelaide across the Nullarbor Plain to Kalgoorlie and onwards to Perth and Fremantle. The Kalgoorlie rail realignment includes a plan for a major intermodal transport hub on the city's outskirts, functioning as an inland port for Western Australia. The realignment is crucial for further expansion of the Goldfields Super Pit and the region's booming rare earth and critical minerals industry, benefiting Western Australia and Australia as a whole. Kalgoorlie-Boulder is the gold capital of Australia, and the development of the $800 million Lynas Rare Earths refinery transforms it into a strategic and economic defence asset. Supplying components from EVs to missiles, this project and associated industrial infrastructure will ensure the greater Goldfields remains an economic powerhouse into and beyond the 21st century. Importantly, taxpayers have already funded the planning and investigation work.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Kalgoorlie rail realignment is also crucial to the community of Kalgoorlie-Boulder. Currently, rail runs directly through the heart of the city. Any expansion of the Kalgoorlie regional health campus or nearby schools is severely restricted. By rerouting the freight line around town, it will also allow for valuable space for much-needed housing developments. And, if there were any further doubt, the collision between a double-stacked freight train and the Great Eastern Highway bridge near Kalgoorlie-Boulder could have had a tragic ending except for the quick thinking of a schoolteacher driving a bus full of schoolchildren. The incident disrupted rail operations, closed a major road corridor and highlighted the risks associated with heavy interstate freight movements through a growing regional city.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">While I'm pleased to say that the business case has been finalised, it seems that now the WA state Labor government and the WA Minister for Transport and Major Infrastructure, Rita Saffioti, are intent to conceal the completed case from public eyes. WA Minister Jarvis responded on behalf of WA minister for transport Rita Saffioti, advising the WA Legislative Council in September this year that the GEDC had submitted a strategic business case which was under review and:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The next stage of planning includes the development of a detailed business case in due course.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It seems that the opinion of the WA Labor government is that we need another business case to assess a business case that no-one is allowed to see. The people of Kalgoorlie-Boulder deserve more than empty headlines and a series of hollow announcements. They deserve the opportunity to properly scrutinise and review the findings of a business case they have helped fund. The consultants have done the work, the Commonwealth says the business case is complete and I call on the WA government to make the business case publicly available to the people of the Goldfields.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I also want to update the House on O'Connor GrainGrowers' response to Safe Work Australia's recommendation for a major reduction for the fumigant phosphine, scheduled to take place nationally on 1 December this year. Phosphine is the principal fumigant used to control insect infestations in stored grain, particularly weevils. By reducing the national workplace exposure limit from the internationally accepted 0.3 particles per million to 0.05 particles per million, governments around Australia risk decimating Australia's $27 billion grain industry.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">WorkSafe Victoria, to its eternal credit, has already proposed delaying the changes until December 2029, while the South Australian government has also announced there will be an 18-month extension for the new limits until July 2028. So I call on the Cook Labor government to back West Australian growers who feed Australia and the world, and allow industry to properly examine this hugely consequential upheaval to Australia's grain industry, delay the implementation and facilitate the 2026 harvest across my electorate of O'Connor.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Paterson Electorate: Roads</title>
          <page.no>76</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Paterson Electorate: Roads</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>76</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Swanson, Meryl Jane MP</name>
              <name.id>264170</name.id>
              <electorate>Paterson</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="264170" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SWANSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Paterson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:55</span>):  I have spoken about the MI extension to Raymond Terrace many times in this place but, after years of talking about this road, I am absolutely delighted to stand here today and talk about something entirely different: it is finished, it is open and it is making a difference. For nearly 15 years, the people of Paterson were promised this road. There were announcements, there were plans and there were delays, but the road simply did not get built. Back in 2018, I stood in this parliament and said this was a junction of national importance. In 2019, I called it the 'last choke point on the eastern seaboard between Sydney and Brisbane'. And in 2021, I said it should have been done 15 years earlier. I said it many times, not just on those three occasions.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I was not wrong then, and the people of my community were certainly not wrong, to demand it. We had local commuters trying to get to work, parents trying to get their kids to school, truckies trying to get freight to the Port of Newcastle and up sand down that M1 from Sydney to Brisbane, and families trying to get through Hexham without sitting in kilometres of traffic. It was a nightmare, and anyone who has ever driven that stretch of road knows exactly what I'm talking about. Then, leading into the 2022 election, I worked with the then shadow minister for infrastructure, Catherine King, and Andrew Giles, who was assisting in that portfolio at the time.We stood at that road and said that, if we were elected, we would build the road, not only build it but fast track it and get it done, and that is what we have done.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We became the government in 2022. We fulfilled our promise and we have delivered that road. The M1 extension between Black Hill and Raymond Terrace is now open, 15 kilometres of brand new motorway, 11 bridges, more than four million hours of construction. We have delivered it 18 months early and on budget. Let me say that again: we promised it from opposition. We were elected to government. We delivered it early and on budget.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Now I know there are plenty of people in this place who like to talk about infrastructure, but I reckon the real test is when you can make these things not just a press release reality but you can drive on the road, and that is what is happening when people actually get behind the wheel and drive on it. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is what I'm hearing from my community. One local told me, 'It's saving me 45 minutes a day to travel to and from work.' Another local who lives in Raymond Terrace where my office is—and I've experienced it too—said, 'We've gotten rid of the absolute wild traffic jam through the terrace every afternoon.' People are telling me it's quicker, easier, less stressful. One person describes it as 'easy, stress free with no trucks' and another said, 'It is a seamless drive.' These are the things that matter to people. We've even had a new local form of tourism pop up, where people are just going for a drive on the new road because it is such a pleasant and interesting experience. Forty-five minutes a day is time back with your family. It's time to have dinner together, to help the kids with homework, or simply get home without spending that part of your evening—or the morning for that matter—sitting in peak hour traffic.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">When we would get heavy holiday traffic going to our beautiful part of the world in Port Stephens or travelling north to magnificent Queensland, it was a car park. Our community was really bearing the brunt of it. Now the journey is so much better. We've just had school holidays and it was astonishing to see the traffic moving. This is what delivering infrastructure is about. It's not just about concrete and bridges—although they are magnificent things in my opinion—but about making people's lives better. It's about stimulating the economy. It's about productivity. It's about keeping Australia moving.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Let's not forget the workers who made that happen. More than 2,700 workers contributed to the project, with 70 per cent of that workforce coming from the Hunter—Hunter locals—and 99 apprentices fulfilled their trade or part of it on the job. This is a magnificent result. It is significant investment in local jobs, local skills and our future workforce. I just want to shout-out to my state colleagues who were part of this as well. We really have achieved something that generations to come will be pleased for.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="text-align:center;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">House adjourned at 20:00</span>
                </span>
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        <title>NOTICES</title>
        <page.no>76</page.no>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">NOTICES</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Presentation</title>
          <page.no>76</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Presentation</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">The following notices were given:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms M M H King</span> to present a Bill for an Act to make arrangements in relation to a domestic gas reservation, and for related purposes. (<span style="font-style:italic;">Domestic Gas Reservation Bill 2026</span>)</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms M M H King</span> to present a Bill for an Act to deal with consequential matters arising from the enactment of the <span style="font-style:italic;">Domestic Gas Reservation Act 2026</span>, and for other purposes. (<span style="font-style:italic;">Domestic Gas Reservation (Consequential Amendments) Bill 2026</span>)</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Dr Webster</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) notes that:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) Australia's three major telecommunications providers commenced Temporary Disaster Roaming (TDR) on 1 October 2026 as a measure intended to improve communications during natural disasters affecting regional and remote communities;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) TDR can only operate where an alternative mobile network remains available and has sufficient capacity to accept additional users during a disaster event;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) many regional, rural and remote Australian communities continue to rely on a single mobile network provider, meaning TDR cannot operate when that network fails;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(d) reliable telecommunications are critical during bushfires, floods and other emergencies, providing access to emergency warnings, evacuation information, emergency services and family communications; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(e) forecasts of elevated bushfire risk across many regional areas have reinforced the importance of resilient telecommunications infrastructure ahead of the 2026-27 summer season; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) calls on the Government to:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) immediately identify those regional, rural and remote communities where TDR is unlikely to operate during a network outage;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) provide a comprehensive strategy to improve telecommunications resilience in disaster-prone regions;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) accelerate investment in mobile coverage, backup power systems and network redundancy across regional Australia; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(d) report to Parliament on measures being taken to ensure regional Australians are not left without communications during life-threatening emergency events.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Leeser</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) notes its profound sadness at the passing of Mr Allan Ezzy AM APM, former Mayor of The City of Holroyd on 4 September 2026;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) acknowledges his significant contribution to local government through his 38 years of service as an independent councillor on The City of Holroyd council, including nine terms as Mayor and three terms as Deputy Mayor, during which he was a tireless advocate for the people of Holroyd and Western Sydney;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) recognises his:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) service beyond local government, including his distinguished career in law enforcement and his service to the people of New South Wales as a police prosecutor; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) commitment to community service through Rotary, church and service organisations, his role in establishing the Greystanes Community Centre, and his mentorship of generations of local councillors and community leaders; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(4) extends its deepest condolences to his wife, Patricia, his daughters, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, and records its appreciation for a life dedicated to public service, community leadership and the people of Western Sydney.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Aldred</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) condemns the Government for imposing higher costs on small businesses through the surcharge ban while allowing the Australian Taxation Office to stop accepting credit card payments rather than absorb merchant fees itself;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) notes small businesses are already facing near-record insolvencies, business closures and real profits still below where they were at the change of government, making further cost pressures harder to absorb;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) recognises that local cafés, community pharmacies, tradies and family-run businesses will be forced to carry costs that larger businesses may be better placed to negotiate or absorb;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(4) calls out the double standard of requiring small businesses to absorb merchant fees while the Government's own tax collector refuses to do the same; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(5) calls on the Government to back small business, properly assess the cost of new regulation, and support a Small Business Act that requires Canberra to consider the impact of its decisions before imposing further burdens on small and family businesses.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Rebello</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) condemns the Government for failing to get inflation under control;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) notes Australians have now faced a 16th interest rate rise, placing further pressure on families, mortgage holders and small businesses;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) recognises the rising cost of everyday essentials under the Government including:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) housing up 23.9 per cent;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) electricity up 37.0 per cent; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) insurance up 43.3 per cent;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(4) calls out the Government's high spending, with spending at its highest share of the economy since 1986-87 outside the pandemic; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(5) calls on the Government to rein in spending, reduce inflationary pressure and ease the cost-of-living burden on Australian families and small businesses.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Small</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) agrees that Australians deserve a migration system in which they can have confidence, and of which migrants can be proud to be part, one that strengthens our economy, fills critical skills gaps, eases pressure on housing and essential services, and helps build a better Australia;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) condemns the Government for allowing unprecedented levels of migration to place unsustainable pressure on housing, infrastructure, roads, schools and hospitals, and making it harder for Australians to buy a home;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) notes the Opposition's plan to reduce net overseas migration to 100,000 a year for the first two years and reduce the number of temporary visa holders by around 650,000 over four years;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(4) acknowledges the Opposition's commitment to raise migration standards by prioritising skilled migrants who meet Australia's genuine workforce needs;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(5) recognises the Opposition's plan to strengthen the integrity of the migration system by ensuring temporary visas are genuinely temporary and reducing opportunities for visa hopping.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Tehan</span> to present a Bill for an Act to amend legislation relating to climate change, electricity and nuclear energy, and for related purposes. (<span style="font-style:italic;">Scrap Net Zero (Cheaper Energy) Bill 2026</span>)</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Sharkie</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) recognises that:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) Australians continue to face significant cost of living pressures, with high fuel prices increasing expenses for households, business, transport operators and community groups;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) people living in regional, rural and remote communities are disproportionately affected by high fuel prices because of limited or non-existent public transport options and long distances to travel to access work, education, health care and essential services; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) diesel prices remain particularly high, increasing freight and transport costs that flow through to the price of goods and services, placing additional pressure on family budgets and regional economies;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) acknowledges that:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the current fuel excise on petrol and diesel is 53.7 cents per litre;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) national average fuel prices remain elevated, with diesel prices substantially higher than unleaded petrol prices;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) higher fuel prices increase goods and services tax (GST) revenue collected by the Commonwealth, as GST is applied to the final retail price of fuel, including the fuel excise component;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(d) previous temporary reductions in fuel excise have demonstrated that the Commonwealth has the capacity to provide immediate relief to motorists and businesses during periods of exceptional fuel price increases; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(e) while fuel tax credits provide relief for eligible off-road fuel use, many regional households, small businesses, transport operators and community organisations receive no equivalent support for their on-road fuel costs; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) calls on the Government to:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) reduce the fuel excise on petrol and diesel by 50 per cent for a minimum period of three months;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) ensure the full benefit of the excise reduction is passed on to consumers;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) monitor the impacts of the reduction on households, small business and regional communities; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(d) continue pursuing long-term measures to improve Australia's fuel security and resilience.</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Sharkie</span> to move:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) recognises that:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) Australia's agricultural sector relies on a strong and reliable seasonal workforce, with Working Holiday Makers filling around one in seven farm jobs and playing a critical role in regional economies and food production;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) Australian university and TAFE students represent a significant potential seasonal workforce during the summer holiday period, while gaining employment, experience and greater exposure to regional Australia; and</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) a strong seasonal workforce is essential to support farmers, regional communities and Australia's food and fibre supply chains;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) acknowledges that:</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) recent changes to the Working Holiday Maker Program, including a ballot system and reduced visa numbers, have prompted concerns from agricultural industries about the availability of seasonable labour;</span>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) the National Farmers Federation and other industry groups have warned that workforce shortages and visa processing delays could affect agricultural productivity, food security and regional economies; and</span>
            </p>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) additional workforce pathways are needed to complement existing agricultural labour programs; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) calls on the Government to:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) investigate the establishment of a national primary production seasonal work incentive program for Australian university and TAFE students that provides up to $500 HECS-HELP debt credits per week (in addition to award wages) for approved regional seasonal work;</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) work with universities, TAFEs, agricultural organisations and employers to connect students with seasonable employment opportunities in regional Australia;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) ensure participation in seasonal work does not unfairly disadvantage students receiving income-tested government support; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(d) continue consultation with the agricultural sector to ensure workforce policies support the labour needs of regional Australia.</span>
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            <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Katter</span> to move:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">That this House:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(1) condemns the continued decline of essential postal and banking services in regional, rural and remote Australia, threatening the viability of country post offices and the communities they serve;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(2) recognises that a post office in the regions is not merely a business but an essential community lifeline for pensioners, farmers, small businesses and entire communities;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(3) notes that when a post office closes, residents are left travelling for hours to access basic services, including the elderly, people with disabilities, and those without reliable internet, who bear the greatest burden;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(4) rejects a system that sacrifices essential community services in pursuit of narrow commercial returns, treating regional Australia as an afterthought rather than an integral part of the nation; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(5) calls on the Government to take immediate and decisive action to secure postal operations in regional and remote Australia by:</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(a) demanding Australia Post has a leadership and approach that enable a future for regional Australia, committed to preserving and strengthening essential services in rural, regional and remote communities;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(b) intervening to ensure no regional or remote community is abandoned without reasonable access to essential postal, banking, and face-to-face financial services;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(c) delivering permanent, properly funded arrangements to keep vulnerable licensed post offices operating, including a proposed minimum annual support payment of up to $100,000 for eligible regional, rural and remote outlets;</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(d) supporting the expansion of Australia Post's role in delivering essential banking services, including consideration of a publicly backed postal banking model to restore access to financial services in communities abandoned by the major banks; and</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Small">(e) further demanding that Australia Post returns to its fundamental obligation to serve all Australians regardless of postcode or commercial profitability and protect the vital role of country post offices in sustaining regional communities.</span>
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              <span class="HPS-Normal">
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr Hogan</span> to present a Bill for an Act to ensure that cash is accepted in certain transactions, and for related purposes. (<span style="font-style:italic;">Cash is King Bill 2026</span>)</span>
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                <span style="&#xA;    color:#FFFFFF;&#xA;  ">Federation Chamber</span>
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                <a href="" type="">Tuesday, 13 October 2026</a>
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                <span style="font-weight:bold;">The </span>
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                <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Sharkie</span>
                <span style="font-weight:bold;">)</span>
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                </span>took the chair at 12:32.</span>
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            <a href="Federation Chamber" type="">Tuesday, 13 October 2026</a>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Sharkie</span>
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        <title>GRIEVANCE DEBATE</title>
        <page.no>80</page.no>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">GRIEVANCE DEBATE</span>
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            <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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            <span class="HPS-Small">That grievances be noted.</span>
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          <title>Veterans: Health Care, Disability Services, Ryan Electorate: Community Organisations, Migration</title>
          <page.no>80</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Veterans: Health Care</span>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Disability Services</span>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Ryan Electorate: Community Organisations</span>
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              <page.no>80</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Watson-Brown, Elizabeth MP</name>
              <name.id>300127</name.id>
              <electorate>Ryan</electorate>
              <party>AG</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms WATSON-BROWN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Ryan</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:32</span>):  Earlier this year Labor tried to slash veterans' services, rather than make big corporations pay their fair share of tax, which was a huge betrayal of those who have served our country. Labor introduced a $5,000 cap on allied health services for veterans, a policy that fundamentally ignored the recommendations of the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide—the same royal commission that uncovered the crisis of mental and physical health issues for veterans.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Allied health is an absolutely crucial part of veteran health and wellbeing. This cap would have introduced another layer of bureaucracy, delaying essential care and costing lives. I've heard from veterans directly that, for many, the cap would have meant choosing between psychological care and physiotherapy. But Australians said: 'No. That is not on. We're not going to allow you to do that to our veterans, not while one in four massive corporations pay zero tax.' I was proud to present a petition to the House on this issue, with over 5,000 signatures, started by Rebecca, a local veteran. Thank you, again, Rebecca. Thanks to the enormous efforts of the veteran community, backed by the Greens, we forced Labor to scrap the cap completely. Labor picked the wrong side on this fight, which is unsurprising really. We've seen their track record, now, of backing their big corporate mates while leaving the rest of us to fend for ourselves while the cost of everything goes up and up. But there is hope. It just doesn't have to be this way. This government backflip is a very strong reminder that, when we come together and we fight together for what's right, we can win better outcomes for each other.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Earlier this month, we saw the launch of Thriving Kids, the government's new support program for children with autism. This program, instead of the NDIS, will serve children aged eight and under. The Greens were very wary of this move, as we were concerned that the government was quietly trying to slash essential disability services. The initial lack of detail caused significant stress and anxiety to many families, including many in my electorate. However, now that these changes are going ahead, I'm even more concerned about the Queensland LNP government's reaction. The federal Labor government shouldn't be gutting the NDIS in the first place, but the Queensland LNP is refusing to sign on to the Thriving Kids program intended to fill that really big gap. They're threatening to leave Queensland children in the lurch with absolutely no support at all, and what does that mean for Queensland children?</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The community is rightly alarmed. Disability advocacy organisations have asked the Queensland government for clarity, but they're being left in the dark. Fortunately, no children with autism will be taken off the NDIS immediately, but, with changes starting in just over a year and Thriving Kids already being launched in every other state and territory, Queensland families need certainty. The Greens strongly opposed the federal government's NDIS cuts when they were first proposed. We saw that the changes were not co-designed and did not protect the interests of people with disability. We warned that the changes could result in families being unable to access the care that they need and deserve.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This was another example of the government cutting essential services for everyday Australians while letting big corporations avoid paying tax. That tells you everything about Labor's priorities and whose interests they really are serving. But, instead of working with the Greens, Labor chose to do a dirty deal with the coalition backed in by One Nation. They chose to gut the NDIS and look after their corporate mates instead. Meanwhile, the people who rely on these services are paying the price. I call on the Queensland government to end the uncertainty and commit to properly supporting children with autism, and shame on Labor for gutting the NDIS in the first place and putting everyday Australians through this whole ordeal. The Greens will continue to speak out for people with disabilities and their families.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Christmas is coming up, and it should be a time of joy and celebration with family and friends, a time for relaxation and a taste of living the good life in summer. We know that things are getting tougher. The cost of living is smashing everyone, and the RBA just announced another interest rate hike, the fourth in the last year. Groceries, mortgages, the price of fuel—everything's getting more expensive, and real wages are just going backwards. People are copping it. They're copping it bad, and I know that for so many Christmas just doesn't feel as magical as it should. So to try and bring back some of that magic, for the past few years, my team and I have been running a program called Elizabeth's Elves. It's a genuinely beautiful community initiative that helps neighbours to support neighbours in these tough times.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This year, Elizabeth's Elves are supporting the fantastic work of Communify and Picabeen, two wonderful community service institutions on the west side of Brisbane. In my electorate last year, with the help of the wonderful Ryan community, they were able to support over 200 households and 500 people. We're collecting toys, gifts, food, toiletries and other non-perishable items to donate to the Christmas market days. Labor might have forgotten how to support regular people doing it tough, but it's clear from the years of success in these Christmas markets and Elizabeth's Elves that our community hasn't forgotten how to look after each other.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In this current race to the bottom on immigration, Labor has chosen to either forget or ignore the human cost, the big toll, of their cruel new policies. People are hurting. They're feeling the economic pain of decades of poor decision making. Regular Australians are struggling to pay the mortgage, afford groceries or pay the fuel bill. That pain is real, and it must be dealt with urgently. Demonising immigrants is not the answer. The cause of the problem is much deeper. The political class on both sides have been captured by corporate interests. For decades, they've delivered policies that put too much power in the hands of major corporations and too little power in the hands of democratic institutions and everyday people. Put simply, we have lost control of our economy to billionaires and big corporations. It's easy and lazy for the government to shift the blame, and migrants are an easy target. That's shameful.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to be clear about what these changes actually look like practically for real people. Here are just three examples of people who've reached out to my office for support in recent weeks: a mother, who's lived in Australia for 15 years, who has been booted out of the country, away from her only living family, to a place that is not home; a young father who may be forced to return to a country he hasn't lived in for 20 years, leaving his young children behind; and a young mum, unable to travel due to birth complications, who is unable to see her mum for the support she so desperately needs. These people are not making our lives harder. I'll tell you who's actually making our lives harder. It's the big banks, greedy corporations, billionaires and major-party politicians who do their bidding. Don't let them divide us against each other.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Tiagarra Aboriginal Cultural Centre, Braddon Electorate: Boat Harbour, Braddon Electorate: Acknowledgements</title>
          <page.no>81</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Tiagarra Aboriginal Cultural Centre</span>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Braddon Electorate: Boat Harbour</span>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Braddon Electorate: Acknowledgements</span>
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              <page.no>81</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Urquhart, Anne MP</name>
              <name.id>231199</name.id>
              <electorate>Braddon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  <a href="231199" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms URQUHART</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Braddon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:40</span>):  I rise today to celebrate some very special milestones in my electorate of Braddon, milestones that speak to culture, community inclusion and the extraordinary people who make regional Tasmania and my electorate such a wonderful place to live, work and learn. First, I want to recognise the 50th anniversary of the Tiagarra Aboriginal Cultural Centre and keeping place at Mersey Bluff in Devonport. Officially opened on 16 October 1976, Tiagarra is one of the oldest Aboriginal operated cultural centres and keeping places in Australia. For half a century, it has held, protected and shared culture. Tiagarra stands on a place of great cultural significance. The bluff contains Aboriginal sites and evidence of occupation and cultural activity extending back thousands of years. It is a place where history is not simply displayed; it is lived, it's taught, and it's carried forward. Through exhibitions, guided experiences, school visits, community events and time on country, Tiagarra gives people an opportunity to listen, to learn and to better understand the continuing culture of Tasmania's Palawa people. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This anniversary belongs to all the Aboriginal people who have kept Tiagarra strong through changing times. I acknowledge the elders, cultural leaders, staff, volunteers and supporters, whose determination has sustained this precious place. I particularly recognise the work of Six Rivers Aboriginal Corporation, which operates Tiaggara and creates opportunities for cultural education, employment, connection and wellbeing. I also want to pay my huge respect to Dave Gough, who has led Tiagarra through remarkable growth and change—tough times but good times—and for his work connecting younger generations to culture and country. I am proud that the Albanese Labor government has supported Six Rivers with funding to help Tiagarra open full time, to strengthen cultural engagement and to build stronger outcomes for Aboriginal people right in north-west Tasmania. The centre's 50th anniversary is not only a celebration of what has been achieved; it is also a promise that this culture, knowledge and connection to country will be respected and supported for generations to come.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I also want to celebrate the transformation of Boat Harbour, one of the most beautiful and best loved places on the north-west coast. With the support of the state and federal government and the local council, a new Boat Harbour Beach Surf Life Saving Club and community facility is now at the heart of a safer, more accessible and more welcoming foreshore precinct. This $12.5 million redevelopment is a great example of what can be achieved when all levels of government and the community work together. The Australian government contributed $4.5 million through the Priority Community Infrastructure Program, alongside $2.7 million from the Tasmanian government and around $5.3 million from the Waratah-Wynyard Council. The result is much more than a new building. The surf life saving club now has fit-for-purpose facilities that will support beach patrols, training and the development of the next generation of lifesavers. The precinct also includes upgraded public amenities, improved parking, better footpaths, accessible beach access, recreation areas and landscaping. These improvements will serve local families, community groups and visitors for decades, and, of course, the wonderful Seekers Bar &amp; Cafe has relocated into the new facility. It's long been a part of the experience of visiting Boat Harbour Beach, a place to meet friends, enjoy good food and take in the remarkable view that is offered there. Its new home brings hospitality, surf lifesaving and community activity together under one roof, making the precinct an even better destination for locals and tourists.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I also welcome the recent federal funding of over $5,500 for a new beach wheelchair at Boat Harbour. This was funded through the Accessible Australia Initiative. It may be a comparatively modest investment, but its impact will be extremely meaningful. It will help people with disability enjoy the beach and the water with family and friends and participate more fully in community life. Our beaches and public spaces should be places where everyone feels welcome. Accessibility is not an optional extra; it is central to good community infrastructure. Combined with the wider precinct upgrades, the new beach wheelchair will open one of our region's most natural treasures to more people.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">None of these achievements happened without determined local leadership. Today, I want to give a special shout out to the mayor of Waratah-Wynyard, Dr Mary Duniam, as she prepares to step down after 21 years of service on council, including four years as mayor. Mary's leadership has always been grounded in a genuine connection with local people. She listens carefully, understands the challenges facing families and communities and works hard to make sure that their voices are heard. Her advocacy for better services and opportunities, particularly for children and families, reflects the practical and compassionate way that she has led.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Mary has also been a trailblazer. Elected to council in 2005, she became deputy mayor in 2014 and Waratah-Wynyard's first female mayor in 2022. Her contribution has extended well beyond the municipality through leadership in local government across Tasmania and nationally, as well as her work encouraging and mentoring women to stand for public office. I have greatly enjoyed working with Mary over the years. I valued her honesty, her sound judgement and determination to secure the best possible outcomes for the people that she represents. Just as importantly, I valued her friendship. Mary should be immensely proud of the legacy she leaves, and the Boat Harbour precinct is one very visible part of that legacy. I wish her every happiness for the next chapter of her life.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I also acknowledge two other Braddon mayors who are not recontesting. Peter Freshney, Mayor of Latrobe Council, and Marcus Blackie, Mayor of King Island Council. Peter, is stepping aside after 15 years as mayor. Over that time, he has been a steady and persistent advocate for a growing municipality stretching, from Latrobe to Port Sorell and the surrounding communities. Regional councils face real pressures from roads, housing and child care to emergency management and sporting facilities, and Peter has consistently worked to keep these needs on the agenda. Marcus has served four years as mayor of King Island, bringing energy and resolve to one of Australia's most remote communities. Leading a very remote offshore island council brings challenges that mainland communities do not always see—freight and transport, workforce shortages, access to services, infrastructure costs and the constant need to ensure that decision-makers understand island life. Marcus has worked full-time in the role, championing the island and fighting for its future.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Regional mayors are champions for communities and can, too often, miss out. They know that distance should never mean disadvantage. They understand that a delayed project, a missing service or an unreliable connection has a very different impact in a small town or on a remote island. They bring local knowledge to the table. They build partnerships and keep pushing, often long after the cameras have gone. I want to thank Mary, Peter and Marcus for their service, for their persistence and for their commitment to their communities. Public service asks a great deal not only of those who hold office but also of their families. Each of them leaves with the respect and gratitude of the people that they have represented. I want to pass on my thank you to them and their families.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">From Tiagarra's 50 years of culture and education to the new Boat Harbour surf club, cafe and beach wheelchair, we are reminded what can be achieved through pride, partnership and persistence. These are stories of people caring for culture, looking after one another and building stronger regional communities. That is the true character of Braddon, and it is certainly worth celebrating, in my view.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Australian Defence Force, Great Barrier Reef Aquarium</title>
          <page.no>82</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Australian Defence Force</span>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Great Barrier Reef Aquarium</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>82</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Thompson, Phillip MP</name>
              <name.id>281826</name.id>
              <electorate>Herbert</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
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                  <a href="281826" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr THOMPSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Herbert</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:49</span>):  I want to tell the House about a bloke from Townsville. He's university educated. He's a respected community leader. He runs a local sporting organisation. He's married, raising a family and wanting to give something back to his country. He put his hand up to join the Australian Army Reserve. And do you know what stopped him? His beard—not a criminal record, not a lack of qualifications, not a failure to meet essential military requirements, but a beard. He was told that, unless he had a religious, cultural or other approved reason for keeping it, he couldn't join the Army with it. At a time when Australia needs to strengthen its Defence Force and grow its reserve capability, we have a willing Australian being turned away over facial hair. And here's the absurdity: the Royal Australian Navy allows beards. The Royal Australian Air Force allows beards. Both services maintain professional standards, discipline and safety while allowing neatly groomed facial hair. But apparently the Army can't. Same Defence Force, same commitment to service, but different rules.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm a former soldier. I understand military discipline. I understand standards—whilst I didn't always meet them—and I'd be the last person in this place to suggest we compromise operational readiness. But this isn't about whether a beard makes someone capable of serving; it's about who gets permission to have one. Defence has rightly modernised many of its policies around personal presentation and identity. The Army accommodates different religious and cultural practices that demonstrate that a modern military can recognise individual circumstances while maintaining professional standards. So why is an otherwise suitable Australian who simply chose to wear a neatly maintained beard unable to receive the same consideration? This shouldn't be about religion or gender; it should be about whether someone has the character, capability and commitment to serve this country—and if they do, Defence should have a very good operational reason for turning them away.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The government recently celebrated 8,100 Australians enlisting in the Defence Force over the past financial year. But we need more Australians serving. Defence is also talking about strengthening the reserve workforce to meet future strategic demands. So how does it make sense to tell Australians we need them to step forward and then put unnecessary barriers in the way when they do so? We're investing heavily in recruitment, we're promoting opportunities across Defence, yet a bloke from Townsville puts his hand up and gets knocked back over a beard. You couldn't make this up.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Let's remember what reservists bring to this country. They're teachers, tradies, doctors, business owners and community leaders. They balance civilian careers with military service and stand ready to answer the call when Australia needs them. In a city like Townsville, with a proud military history, we understand their value. We should be rolling out the welcome mat for capable Australians willing to serve, not putting a razor at the recruiting desk and telling them that that's the price of admission.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm calling on the Minister for Defence Personnel, Matt Keogh, to urgently review the Army's beard policy. The Army should explain why it maintains a general prohibition that the Navy and Air Force have already moved beyond. We need practical and consistent standards across the Australian Defence Force—standards that protect safety, maintain discipline but don't unnecessarily exclude good Australians who want to serve. A beard doesn't tell you whether a person has courage, doesn't tell you whether a person can lead, doesn't tell you whether a person will stand beside their mates when things get tough and certainly doesn't tell you how much a person loves this country. Australia needs more people prepared to put on the uniform. When a good Australian puts his hand up to serve, we should be asking what they can bring to the Defence Force, not whether they are prepared to shave their face to get through the front gate. Minister Keogh, you need to fix this and let this bloke serve his country. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There's a question that the people of Townsville deserve to have answered. When did the Albanese Labor government know about the structural issues surrounding Reef HQ? When did it know, and why weren't the people of Townsville told? What's unfolding with Reef HQ is deeply concerning. For generations, Reef HQ has been a part of Townsville. It's where school children learned about the Great Barrier Reef, where families visited and where tourists experienced one of the world's great natural wonders. It is an educational institution, a tourism drawcard and an important part of our city's identity—and it's been closed for more than five years. There have been five years of delays, five years of changing plans and five years of promises. But we need to go through the facts. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In 2021, the former coalition government committed $80.1 million to refurbish Reef HQ. The building had known issues, which is why the refurbishment was required. After the Labor government came to power, the refurbishment was abandoned in favour of a complete rebuild. The project changed, the timeline changed and the cost changed, but there was no money added to deliver it. In May 2024, Senate estimates confirmed that the Reef Authority had never received the additional funding that it required to undertake the rebuild it had announced. Then, come August 2024, the Townsville City Council faced a significant decision. The city had $100 million allocated, through the Townsville City Deal, for a concert hall. Instead, in August 2024, the council was given an ultimatum by this prime minister: you can have a concert hall or you can have Reef HQ. It's the first time a council has ever been made to make that decision. The correct answer is, 'We'll have both,' but the council was forced to vote, and they voted for Reef HQ. A week later the Prime Minister stood in Townsville and celebrated the announcement. The government told our community Reef HQ had been saved. It said the additional funding would provide certainty. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But here's the question: at the time that decision was made, what did the Commonwealth know about the condition of the Ross Creek wall? Had there been engineering concerns identified? Had concerns been raised with the Reef Authority? Had the department briefed the minister, and, if there were warnings, why weren't they disclosed before the $100 million was redirected? Townsville deserves to know the truth. We know that there have been reports suggesting structural concerns involving the Ross Creek wall. The possibility of relocating Reef HQ is being discussed—but should not go ahead. The Queensland government and Townsville City Council have raised concerns, and the community is left wondering how a supposedly funded project has ended up back in uncertainty. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to know who knew what and when. No vague assurances and not another press release but dates, documents, engineering advice—that's what we want. When was the Ross Creek wall first identified as a potential risk? When did the Reef Authority become aware? When was the Commonwealth informed? When was the responsible minister briefed? Why did he keep it from the Townsville community? Was there any information available before the Townsville City Council redirected the $100 million in August 2024? These are straightforward questions. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">If the wall issue only emerged afterwards, then the government should release the records that prove it. But, if the government knew there were issues beforehand, Townsville deserves to know why that information was not disclosed, because a funding announcement is not informed consent, and celebrating a redevelopment while withholding material would be an entirely different matter. I'm not prepared to assume that happened, but I'm not prepared to let the government avoid answering it either. We need to know when the specific risk was identified and what decisions followed. How much has been spent? How much remains? What happened to the $180 million committed to this project? Our tourism industry awaits this. Local business awaits this. Townsville deserves answers. We don't want to see any more photo ops; we want to see some follow-up.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Climate Change</title>
          <page.no>84</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Climate Change</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>84</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Zappia, Tony MP</name>
              <name.id>HWB</name.id>
              <electorate>Makin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="HWB" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr ZAPPIA</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Makin</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:59</span>):  We live in the most uncertain times that I can recall in my lifetime, from the life-changing impacts of a three-year global COVID pandemic to the war in Ukraine, the rise of China's global influence, the recent military attack on Iran and, now, the fear of AI. People are understandably fearful of what the future holds. Simultaneously, essential, basic needs like housing are out of reach for many new, aspiring homeowners and the national health system struggles with daily demands. Not surprisingly for most people in both Australia and throughout the world, daily survival has become a priority.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">A regrettable fallout of the current pressures is that the critical issue of climate change and global warming are being sidelined. Recent polling confirms that climate change is dropping down the list of voters' most important issues, with only five per cent nominating it as their most important issue compared to nearly 30 per cent in 2022. Even worse, in many parts of the world, climate change initiatives are being scaled back or put on ice, in turn adding to the pace and threats of climate change. Within the broader community, discourse about global warming and climate change has stalled. Yet scientists tell us that the risks have in no way diminished and the consequences can be devastating and irreversible. A recent UK national assessment highlighted the alarming level of biodiversity loss and ecosystem collapse and the dire consequences for humanity that flow from that. The fact remains that the Earth is getting hotter, and the dominant cause is the burning of fossil fuels.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Whilst Australians generally welcome renewable energy initiatives, we simultaneously continue to export record amounts of coal and gas, with Australia now being the third-largest fossil-fuel exporter. However, renewable energy technology, whilst welcome and effective, is hardly meeting growing energy demand when, in reality, total carbon emissions should be trending downwards if threats of climate change are to be reversed. Annual global temperatures over the next five years are predicted to be between 1.3 degrees centigrade and 1.9 degrees centigrade above preindustrial levels according to the World Meteorological Organisation. The consequences include melting ice sheets, coral bleaching, rising sea levels, water scarcity, disappearing flora and fauna, more extreme weather events that occur more frequently, a substantial increase in human heat stress and many, many others.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The devastating fires in recent times, which saw 150 million hectares burned globally in the first four months of 2026 alone, with more since across Europe and North America, and the terrifying and destructive water and landslide in Nepal are confronting realities of climate change, whilst the human and financial costs of those events add to global financial pressures and stresses. It is also predicted that, in the years ahead, hundreds of millions of people will become climate change refugees, adding to the global refugee problem that we currently face. Australia's near neighbours in the Pacific will be some of the first and worst affected, and their problems will become Australia's problems. In the meantime, here in Australia, the Liberals', the Nationals' and One Nation's members openly backtrack from efforts to reduce carbon emissions, invest in renewable energy or accept the work of our global climate scientists. They are doing their best to prolong fossil-fuel use and constantly talk down the transition to electric vehicles, the Albanese government's investment in batteries and Australia's participation in the COP31 climate change conference.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Climate change is real and, whilst climate change deniers, backed by the fossil fuel companies, run their dishonest, self-serving campaigns, the hard decisions are being left to future generations. Not surprisingly, the younger generations have now become the most active advocates for climate change action. They are the ones who will inherit the failures of today's generations. Survey after survey confirms that younger people are not dismissive of climate change consequences and feel betrayed by the lack of global climate change actions. It is understandable that dealing with the immediate cost-of-living pressures would be a priority for governments; however, there is no reason why climate change responses should be put on hold, as they have been in so many places. Good government means dealing with both. Doing so need not be contradictory.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Iran war and its subsequent ongoing disruption to global oil supplies highlights Australia's enormous reliance and vulnerability when it comes to diesel, petrol and jet fuel. Transitioning to electric vehicles can save Australians on ever-increasing fuel costs while simultaneously reducing carbon emissions. Large-scale production of sustainable aviation fuels in Australia could reduce greenhouse gas emissions from our aviation sector, create jobs and increase our resilience to supply shocks from events overseas. There are opportunities for farmers to electrify farm equipment—such as irrigation pumps, which often account for a substantial amount of on-farm diesel use—which could then be run on solar and batteries. I'm pleased to say that we're actually seeing some of that transition, with the sale of electric vehicles now growing at a much faster pace than had been predicted only a couple of years ago. That is good because, again, it not only diminishes the amount of carbon that is produced and released into the air but accelerates the transition that we need to go through if we are to reverse the effects of climate change.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">For all the criticism that I often hear about what countries are doing about climate change, the one country that is actually still sticking to its plan and agenda and probably doing more than any other country when it comes to climate change adaptation is in fact China, a country that is quite often in the firing line of the critics.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Climate change is real, and the effects are already with us. The consequences are real and they are devastating. Governments know that. But, in many cases, they are too timid to act. Our younger generations know that climate change is real, and they have every right not only to be concerned but to expect stronger action across the world. They don't want just words and reports and they don't want just one conference. They want meaningful action and long-term climate change adaptation policies, something we have been talking about ever since I came to this place in 2007. But I haven't seen enough real work being done.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I stand with those young people in calling for stronger action globally on climate change and global warming. The longer we delay our response, the more destruction will occur and the more drastic and costly the response in the future will be. It is a great injustice to future generations to burden them with that responsibility.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Home Insurance, Roads, Health Care, Mental Health</title>
          <page.no>85</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Home Insurance</span>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Roads</span>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Health Care</span>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Mental Health</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>85</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Tehan, Dan MP</name>
              <name.id>210911</name.id>
              <electorate>Wannon</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="210911" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TEHAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wannon</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:08</span>):  I rise this afternoon to talk on a number of issues that are relevant to my electorate. The first is the two-year anniversary of the Casterton hailstorm. Two years ago, there was a devastating hailstorm that went through the town of Casterton, the likes of which hadn't been seen, I think, for about 50 or 60 years. It caused mass damage, especially to roofs. It flooded, broke glass and caused immense damage. The problem was that, in the aftermath, sadly, the Australian insurance industry let the community down. It took the community gelling together and rallying to help each other and support each other to finally lead to the type of action which should have happened immediately. Once we called the Australian insurance council in, and once all the issues and all the problems were pointed out, action was taken. But it did mean that, for too long, too many people were left without the immediate action that they deserved. I think the Insurance Council of Australia know and understand the issues and have tried to act to make sure that their response, especially in remote parts of regional and rural Australia, is much quicker now and to make sure that they are there for the long term.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to raise the two-year anniversary because I want to thank the community—the volunteers, the community groups, local government and everyone—for the way they gelled together and helped. I also just want to put on notice that there are still a couple of issues which are outstanding, and my office and I will continue to follow those up to make sure that we get proper resolution for those last remaining cases because, two years on, everyone should have had their issues dealt with. We want to make sure that, in the aftermath of what was a devastating hailstorm, people will get the financial support they need from their relevant insurance company to make sure that they not only can rebuild their lives but will rebuild their lives in homes which are fit for purpose for the 21st century.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Roads, roads, roads. I say this, again, to the Albanese Labor government and to the state Labor government: spring is here. Now is the time to be getting your workforce and your crews. Get your funding out and make sure that you fix Victoria's roads, in particular, roads in western Victoria. Whether it be the Western Highway, where we've seen some tragic incidents and deaths, or just the state roads right across western Victoria—we need to see them fixed. The fact that they've failed to do their job has become a hallmark, in particular, of the Victorian state Labor government. When we look back and history tells the story of why there was a change of government in Victoria—and I'm confident there will be—it will be because potholes, in the end, told the story of a failing state. I say to Jess Wilson and her team: congratulations for committing $5 billion not only to fixing the potholes but also to making sure that when they're fixed they're done properly so the roads are upgraded and we won't have the continued deterioration that we see at the moment.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I say to the Albanese Labor government: it's time you got serious again about your road funding. Instead of cutting it, it's time you started investing more, in particular, in Victoria, because Victoria's roads are a disgrace. What they need to see from you is not changing funding formulas so you rip money out; it's changing funding formulas so you put money in. The coalition, at the state level, has committed $5 billion. You should be looking, once, hopefully, we get that change of government, to working with them so that you invest as well and we can get back to having the roads that we deserve.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">About an hour ago I met a wonderful young mum from my constituency, Trudy Marr. Trudy's up here, in Parliament House, fighting for her young son. Her young son had cancer at a very young age. Fortunately he survived that cancer, but he will face ongoing battles, as many young people who have cancer at a young age, during childhood, face because the medication and the treatment that's needed to cure them can have lasting legacies in terms of their facing battles to do with their health going forward. What Trudy's up here in Parliament House for, on behalf of all my constituents who are dealing with this and on behalf of constituents right across Australia, is to ask the government to allocate, from within a pot of money, $10 million to a childhood cancer organisation and, thereafter, $10 million from existing funding which has been allocated. I'm going to lift up the booklet I have here. It says: 'Surviving cancer is not enough. Think life goes back to normal when treatment ends?' It's from the Children's Cancer CoLab.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I say to the parliament that this is something we can all come together on to make sure this money is allocated, because we will change the lives of so many young Australians who have had cancer at a young age and who—through proper coordination, especially of services and especially of services in regional and rural Australia—could face a much brighter life if we can find this funding. Trudy, you're a community warrior, and I know you're not going to give up the fight on behalf of your son and on behalf of many young people right across this nation. I commend you, and I support what you are seeking to do.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Tomorrow will be headspace Day, when we come together and acknowledge the establishment of headspace and what headspace is achieving in our local communities. I've been very fortunate to be able to advocate for headspace in my electorate, in Colac, in Warrnambool, in Portland and in Hamilton. We have just achieved funding now for a satellite headspace in Ararat, which the community has been fighting for for a very, very long time. My hope is that that satellite service in Ararat will become a standalone service, and we're going to continue to fight for that, but we've taken an important first step in getting that satellite service for Ararat.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Can I thank all those people who work in our headspace centres in regional and rural Australia, especially in western Victoria. Getting the workforce that we need in these headspace centres is critically important and remains an ongoing challenge in regional and rural Australia. We need to be supporting organisations like the One Red Tree Resource Centre which help provide the employment in headspace centres by training up people in the services that we need in order to run headspace centres efficiently.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">For National headspace Day, which will be tomorrow, I commend everyone who works for headspace right across this nation. I commend headspace for what they're doing in changing the lives of young people who are dealing with mental health issues. Hopefully we can continue to support the rollout of headspace centres, especially in regional and rural areas where we need these important services.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Melbourne Electorate: Community Events, Artificial Intelligence</title>
          <page.no>86</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Melbourne Electorate: Community Events</span>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Artificial Intelligence</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>86</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Witty, Sarah MP</name>
              <name.id>316660</name.id>
              <electorate>Melbourne</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316660" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms WITTY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Melbourne</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:18</span>):  When I gave my first speech in this place, I spoke about Melbourne as a city that pulses with live music, breathes a soul of theatre and has creativity running through it. I've had plenty of reasons since then to feel even more strongly about that. I have the enormous privilege of representing a part of Australia where you can walk a few streets and come across live music, theatre, comedy, galleries, record shops, games, fashion and people making things you probably wouldn't find anywhere else. Melbourne has built that reputation over generations. A lot of it has happened in small venues, rehearsal rooms and studios above pubs, behind shopfronts and in places where somebody was prepared to give an artist a go.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I was reminded of that recently when I toured the Melbourne Fringe Festival. Fringe has been part of Melbourne for more than 40 years. This year's festival has more than 450 events, and its open-access model means an independent artist does not have to go through a selection committee or audition before registering a show. There is theatre, comedy, circus, cabaret, music, dance and visual arts. There are established artists and people putting something in front of an audience for the first time. For 20 days, that work takes over theatres, pubs, shopfronts and community halls across Melbourne. You can see people trying things out. Some of it's funny. Some of it's strange. Some of it is even challenging. That willingness to experiment has always been part of Melbourne's culture.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Earlier this year I visited St Martins Youth Arts Centre in South Yarra. They have worked with children and young people since 1980, putting them in rehearsal rooms with professionals and treating them as artists in their own right. They help create the work themselves and develop scenes, movement, sound, characters and performance. I really enjoyed seeing how seriously they take young people's ideas and creativity. People including Ben Mendelsohn, Catherine McClements, Gina Riley and Jane Turner have come through St Martins.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Another area where Melbourne exceeds is gaming, and I recently saw the launch of Melbourne International Games Week at ACMI in Federation Square. ACMI is Australia's only museum dedicated to screen culture, bringing film, television, video games and screen based art together in the middle of Melbourne and welcoming around one million visitors each year. It has also taken video games seriously as an art form for more than 20 years. It exhibits and collects games, supports developers and hosts Melbourne International Games Week, a 10-day celebration of Australian and international video game culture and industry. Digital games development recorded average annual growth of 13.1 per cent over the decade of 2024 to 2025, the strongest growth across Australia's culture and creative sector. The broader cultural and creative economy contributed $70.3 billion in 2024-25.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Another organisation I've been proud to support is the Social Studio. The Social Studio has been part of Melbourne's scene since 2009, creating training, employment and creative opportunities for people from refugee and migrant backgrounds through fashion, design and the arts. Their school, manufacturing studio and retail store give emerging creatives somewhere to build skills and find meaningful opportunities.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">When talking about art, I often come back to music. Melbourne's music scene is one of the things I love most about representing this city. On almost any night, you can find someone playing somewhere. There are rooms packed with people and rooms where the audiences can practically lean on the stage. There are musicians playing their first proper gig and others who have spent their lives performing. Around them are sound engineers, bookers, promoters, producers, venue staff, good audience members like me and all the people who keep live music running.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Those smaller venues have a practical place in Melbourne. Long before an artist can fill a festival stage, they need somewhere to play in front of a much smaller group of people, and hopefully that's more than one. They need someone willing to book them and audiences willing to take a chance. The Albanese Labor government knows the pressure the live music sector has been under. We established Revive Live to support Australian owned venues and festivals and give Australian artists more opportunities to perform, develop an audience, hone their craft and earn an income.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Some of the Melbourne organisations and venues supported, including the Grace Darling Hotel, the Bodriggy Brewing Company, Yah Yahs and Punters Club alongside Ability Fest and Glo Glo in Fitzroy. Across Australia, Revive Live has provided $19.3 million to 221 live music businesses, including 100 venues and 121 festival activities. Our government has committed a further $12.5 million for 2026-27. Labor's cultural policy, Revive, also established Music Australia within Creative Australia to support and promote contemporary Australian music and help Australian artists develop audiences and markets.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">As incredible as Melbourne's arts and culture scene is, it is under pressure and threat from unregulated AI training. If you make music, write, illustrate, photograph, design or perform, your work is your intellectual property. Australian copyright law gives copyright owners economic rights over their material, while creators and performers also have moral rights including attribution and protection against false attribution. Generative AI has raised serious questions about what happens when copyright work is used to train AI systems. The Albanese Labor government has already made clear it supports artists and their work by ruling out a broad text and data mining exception in Australian copyright law. Parts of the technology sector had called for such an exception. It could have allowed AI developers to use Australian creatives' copyright work, for free and without permission, to train AI systems. The government has ruled that out and has been clear that it has no plan to weaken copyright protection because of AI.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The government's Copyright and Artificial Intelligence Reference Group is bringing creators, industry and experts together to work through what comes next, including how copyright material is used as inputs for AI and questions around transparency. The government is considering different ways of addressing this emerging technology—for example, whether Australia should establish a paid collective licence framework for AI or continue with voluntary licence agreements. It is also examining whether copyright law needs greater clarity around AI generated material and whether a small-claims forum could make it cheaper for copyright owners to pursue lower-value infringements. These discussions are ongoing, and I am pleased to know that artists and creative workers are at the heart of these talks.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Melbourne gives me the chance to see how broad our arts scene really is—independent performers at Fringe; young people making theatre at St Martins; designers at the Social Studio; game developers, musicians, technicians and the people keeping local venues alive. The mix has taken generations of people to build. I am incredibly proud to represent them and proud to be part of a government that backs Australian artists and wants the next generation to have the opportunity to make a life and a career from their creativity.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="144732" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Payne</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  There being no further grievances, the debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next sitting.</span>
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                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sitting suspended from 13:27 to 16:00</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>88</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Payne, Alicia MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>144732</name.id>
                <electorate>Canberra</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>CONSTITUENCY STATEMENTS</title>
        <page.no>88</page.no>
        <type>CONSTITUENCY STATEMENTS</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">CONSTITUENCY STATEMENTS</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Tasmanian Times</title>
          <page.no>88</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Tasmanian Times</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>88</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wilkie, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>C2T</name.id>
              <electorate>Clark</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="C2T" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WILKIE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Clark</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:00</span>):  I have received a whistleblower disclosure from veteran Tasmanian investigative journalist Mr Geoffrey Swan, a 10-year contributor to Tasmanian Times and who was acting chief editor of the publication until January. My office has had several dealings with Mr Swan this year via emails, phone calls and in person. Tasmanian Times was founded in 2003. It holds about 64,000 articles and has been a reputable and trusted local publication for years. The documents provided to me by Mr Swan allege serious misconduct by the publication and its former owner and publisher, Mr Alan Whykes.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Mr Swan claims that Tasmanian Times has been leveraging its reputation to quietly profit from the promotion of illegal offshore gambling. According to Mr Swan's disclosure, when conducting an audit of the Tasmanian Times database he found 1,894 posts which contained hidden black-hat search engine tactics. Black-hat SEOs are features like hidden links and invisible text that are used to rank a website by violating search engine guidelines. They do this by manipulating search engine algorithms to increase a site's rankings. In the case of Tasmanian Times, Mr Swan alleges that black-hat SEOs had been used to funnel readers towards unlicensed offshore casinos. The posts are invisible to ordinary readers but highly visible to Google, which trusts the masthead because of its decades of credible reporting. It is relevant here that the Interactive Gambling Act 2001 prohibits posting links to unlicensed offshore gambling services. Therefore, if Mr Swan's allegations are correct, both Tasmanian Times and Mr Whykes stand accused of breaching the Interactive Gambling Act as well as misleading readers.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">To date, Mr Swan has referred his allegations to the Australian Communications and Media Authority, the Australian Taxation Office, the Australian Federal Police and the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. But, as is often the case with whistleblower matters I raise in this place, each organisation has so far failed to act. Accordingly, and as this matter falls across several portfolios, I call on the Prime Minister to now coordinate a whole-of-government response to Mr Swan's allegations.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In closing, I would add that Mr Swan is a recipient of the 2026 Walkley Foundation's freelance journalism grant in relation to this matter. I seek leave to table the documents provided to me by Mr Swan.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Leave not granted.</span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Indian Ocean Territories</title>
          <page.no>88</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Indian Ocean Territories</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>88</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Scrymgour, Marion MP</name>
              <name.id>F2S</name.id>
              <electorate>Lingiari</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="F2S" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SCRYMGOUR</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lingiari</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:03</span>):  I rise today to talk about Australia's most remote communities, the Indian Ocean Territories. The Indian Ocean Territories are an important strategic and cultural part of this country. They represent the very best of modern Australia—a strong and connected local community grounded in their diversity. These communities are resilient. They know how to work together and have deep respect for what it means to be Australian. But often their distance makes them feel overlooked, and government must do better for these territories.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">During my recent visit, I met with local leaders to discuss Qantas's baggage allowance changes. Without proper community consultation, Qantas has reneged on its commitment and changed the rules for Islanders. This means people who rely on air freight to access essential goods have had the rug pulled out from under them. Islanders are rightly angry and are frustrated. We all expect better from Australia's national airline. Qantas needs to rebuild its social licence. Islanders are mobilising against these changes and working to have their voices heard in the boardroom of Qantas, and I will do everything I can to represent these voices.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">A key challenge is economic transition. We have to, with the community, build a robust local economy that provides quality jobs and a future for people on the islands. Last week I met with innovative and resilient local businesses on Christmas Island. When you're 2,900 kilometres away from the mainland, you have to navigate hurdles that other businesses on the mainland never have to. From unreliable food deliveries, access to skilled labour and high costs, in the face of these challenges businesses are adapting, but they need our support. I met with the Christmas Island Tourism Association, who are doing a fantastic job at advocating for a tourism led future and supporting local operators. To build an economic future and a tourism industry, it must rely on secure access. They need Qantas to come to the table to support this. We also need to ensure maritime deliveries are regular and reliable. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">On Cocos Keeling Islands, the community is at the forefront of climate change. Erosion and rising sea levels are causing major challenges for services and the community. As Australia looks to discuss climate change on the global stage, we must look after our own people, who should be at the centre of this, and all of the communities, particularly Cocos Keeling, which has been fighting and at the forefront of climate change. I am making sure that our government listens and supports that community to deal with the rising sea levels and all of the coming dangers that are encroaching on the fragile systems on the atoll out at Cocos Island. </span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Medical Research Future Fund</title>
          <page.no>89</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Medical Research Future Fund</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>89</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Boele, Nicolette MP</name>
              <name.id>26417</name.id>
              <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="26417" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BOELE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:05</span>):  During my time in office, I've had the heartbreaking privilege of meeting with Bradfield constituents to hear their stories of devastating loss and life changing diagnoses—in particular, Georgina, who told me of the loss of her beautiful daughter Vanessa to sudden cardiac arrest aged just 24; Nadine and David, whose daughter Sasha was diagnosed with a rare, recessive genetic condition at the age of four; and Lucy, who lost her young daughter to neuroblastoma. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">These families inspired me with their hope, turning their personal devastation into purpose and action. They have formed and joined advocacy groups. They've rallied scientists, medical researchers and universities to their cause. They have promising, high quality research in development: the application of CAR T-cell therapy to solid tumours, personalised gene therapies and targeted cardiovascular research. What they desperately need is funding. Australia has a well-established medical research fund, the MRFF, established in 2015 with the goal of providing $1 billion annually to medical research investment. Yet, since the fund was fully capitalised in 2022, annual investment has stalled at $650 million. That's $350 million short of what could be an eye-watering sum being withheld every year from the Australian scientific and medical research community. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is not just frustrating to scientists and medical researchers. The Australian Academy of Science has warned that low grant success rates are contributing to researchers leaving active research careers and being driven overseas. It means high-quality medical research projects are not being funded and that the world is being denied potential life-saving advancements and the incredible expertise of Australian scientific talent. It means that we're not building out Australian scientific capability or downstream capabilities at a time when we should be strengthening our long-term productivity. But equally, behind every promising research proposal that's not funded, there's a real person whose life is not going to be saved or improved because of this decision and whose family is left asking why, as they desperately try to raise funds for expensive treatments overseas. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Future Fund board has determined that it would be financially sustainable for the MRFF to make the full $1 billion annually available for research grants. I acknowledge my colleague the member for Kooyong for her sustained advocacy in this space. For Georgina, this extra funding would mean honouring Vanessa's life through investing in the work of the Centenary Institute relating to sudden cardiac death. For Sasha, personalised gene therapies would allow her to regain her lost skills—to walk and talk again. For Lucy, it would give hope to the Australian children who relapse with neuroblastoma and otherwise face a devastating 10 per cent long-term survival rate. </span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Banks Electorate: Community Events</title>
          <page.no>89</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Banks Electorate: Community Events</span>
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          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>89</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Soon, Zhi MP</name>
              <name.id>298618</name.id>
              <electorate>Banks</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298618" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr SOON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Banks</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:09</span>):  Over the October long weekend, I held the first Banks Community Cup Table Tennis Tournament, bringing together 64 participants and more than 50 spectators in Penshurst for some lighthearted social competition. Table tennis is more popular in the electorate of Banks than you might expect, especially amongst our diaspora communities. The tournament was a great success with father-son duo Garry and Stephen Kwong emerging victorious in an incredibly close final with second place finishers Rodney Forrester and Mark Lancaster. I'd like to register my thanks to everyone who helped make today possible, including the St George &amp; Sutherland Shire Table Tennis Association and the Georges River Association for the incredible assistance.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">On 3 October, I had the pleasure of attending a spring luncheon in celebration of the 80th anniversary of the Padstow RSL subbranch alongside the state member for East Hills, Kylie Wilkinson. For eight decades, the Padstow subbranch has provided much-needed support and camaraderie for local veterans. During the celebrations, we also had the opportunity to dedicate a new memorial cabinet, which was made possible by a grant of $10,000 from the federal government as part of round 9 of the Stronger Communities Program. I'd like to express my thanks to the subbranch president, Trevor Young, and the club president, John Evans, for putting together such a great celebration for 80 years of service.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, my community is benefiting from the Labor government's decision to double the Roads to Recovery Program to $1 billion annually for the current five-year funding cycle. Across the suburbs of Padstow, Revesby, Panania and East Hills this year, there are five projects funded by the Roads to Recovery Program that are either complete or underway—the most in a single year since 2015, with funding totalling more than $1.2 million. These projects are not all the federal government is doing for local infrastructure in the electorate of Banks, with the Black Spot Program, funding for Marco Avenue in Panania, funding delivered for stage 1B of the Henry Lawson Drive upgrade in Milperra and funding to fulfil the commitment we made to the community in 2022 that would fix the Revesby Police Station intersection that has been a problem for decades in our community. This government is delivering for our community of Banks, fixing roads, fixing infrastructure and making sure our community has the infrastructure and the support that it needs.</span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Curtin Electorate: Raise Our Voice Australia</title>
          <page.no>90</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Curtin Electorate: Raise Our Voice Australia</span>
            </p>
          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>90</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chaney, Kate MP</name>
              <name.id>300006</name.id>
              <electorate>Curtin</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300006" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CHANEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Curtin</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:12</span>):  Raise Our Voice provides an opportunity for young Australians to draw the parliament's attention to the issues shaping their future and the action they want parliament to take. I'm proud to share from some young people in Curtin. Toni, aged 14, had this to say about disability justice:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I am not a burden. I am not a joke. I am not lesser. I am the same as anyone else, I just need a little help sometimes. I am autistic.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I need Parliament to understand that I have so much to give this world. I play sport, I volunteer in my community, I row for my school, I play basketball for my state, I can play an instrument, and I have an amazing group of friends.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The NDIS has given me support, and without it I may not have been able to do these things. I need Parliament to understand that every dollar you spend on me matters and makes a difference.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Sometimes people say things that make it sound like we aren't worthy. I am lucky. I go to a school that gives me lots of support and makes sure I am treated well. Not every autistic child gets this, but they should.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Autistic teenagers like me need a hospital system that understands our needs, an education system that looks after us, and politicians who see us as adding value to our communities.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I am autistic and I am proud. I need Parliament to be proud of us and to take real action for disabled people.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Meg, aged 18, shared her views on AI:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Hi, I'm Meg. I'm 18, I'm from the Curtin electorate, and my brain is shrinking. This is not hyperbole; this is AI.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">While artificial intelligence has created large-scale changes in society that improve everyday life, it is also slowly eating away at what makes us human. Creativity, innovation and critical thinking are all fried and atrophied as AI replaces them with a click or a tap.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">As a member of the generation most affected by this change, I refuse to watch corporations profit from AI as it strips away our future. We need this to be managed. We need change.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">At university, I have watched my peers compete for grades, only to see the top marks go to essays written by AI. We are fighting robots, and we are losing.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">To win this fight, we need to learn how to use AI strategically to expand our thinking instead of limiting it. Creating education programs in schools could be a crucial step—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="282335" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Dr Haines</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  A quorum has been called in the House. The proceedings are suspended to enable honourable members to attend. Proceedings will resume when the chair of the Federation Chamber is resumed.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="text-align:center;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sitting suspended from 16:14 to 16:19</span>
                </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300006" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms CHANEY:</span>
                  </a>  Meg said:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">To win this fight, we need to learn how to use AI strategically to expand our thinking instead of limiting it. Creating education programs in schools could be a crucial step towards a world where society isn't paralysed by AI. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">So, for a smarter future, limit the use of AI. Limit the erosion of your children's brains. And act to save humanity.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Thanks, Tony and Meg. Parliament hears your voices.</span>
              </p>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>90</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Haines, Helen MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>282335</name.id>
                <electorate>Indi</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>90</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Chaney, Kate MP</name>
                <name.id>300006</name.id>
                <electorate>Curtin</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Raise Our Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>90</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Raise Our Voice in Parliament</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>90</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Smith, David MP</name>
              <name.id>276714</name.id>
              <electorate>Bean</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="276714" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr DAVID SMITH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bean</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:19</span>):  This speech comes from Matilda from Bean: </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">My name is Matilda, I am 13 years of age, and I am proud to have two parents that both work in the trades. I have had the opportunity to watch my parents build a bright future for me and my little sister. Despite that, our family has received discrimination because my parents wear hi-vis for a living. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">There is still a held belief that a person from a blue-collar industry is somehow un-educated or is of less value than someone that attended university. It is often drilled into young people that university is the only option to choose for a good career path. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I know this is not true. My father lays bricks, working tirelessly to construct the buildings that we use every day, like this great house my speech is being heard in. He has helped build schools, rec-centres, hospitals, and homes for families. My mother works as a high voltage electrician, in an industry that is building green infrastructure; like big batteries, wind farms, and solar energy, all of which will help make this planet a healthier place. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Both my parents have jobs that can be done from anywhere, allowing us the freedom to explore and live in different places. Neither have student debt, and both earned a wage while they got their education, enabling them to move into their industries debt free. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I believe that greater information needs to be given at younger ages that university is not always the best option for a bright future. This needs to be encouraged in school aged children so that we meet the skills shortage that we face in my generation.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Lili, also from Bean, highlights the importance of mental health:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">My name is Lili. In Australia today, 1 in 7 children aged 4-17 experience a mental health disorder every year. If that's happening in our classrooms, how can we act on it?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I know how this feels because I've felt and seen this before, the terrible feeling of feeling lonely and helpless.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Shouldn't every school in Australia have equal access to mental health support. Right now, only half of schools have regular access to a psychologist. The government must expand programs like Be You. If this program was fully funded and strengthened, every school could receive proper mental health training, resources, and support.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Government should also fund wellbeing kits with mindfulness cards, stress relief tools, and wellbeing journals. I would definitely use them!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I believe that all of you have seen a child suffering quietly in the dark, perhaps that child was you, recall that exact feeling, that feeling is what we are trying to prevent. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Thank you, Lili and Matilda, for both raising your voices. Our government is listening and acting and agrees that these are priorities that all governments should be concerned with.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>La Trobe Electorate: Roads</title>
          <page.no>91</page.no>
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          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">La Trobe Electorate: Roads</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>91</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wood, Jason MP</name>
              <name.id>E0F</name.id>
              <electorate>La Trobe</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="E0F" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WOOD</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">La Trobe</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:22</span>):  The Dandenong Ranges is a beautiful place to live, but in summer we always have the fear of fires. Many roads right across the Dandenong Ranges are unsealed. Under the former, Liberal government we actually committed $150 million to Cardinia council to deliver 110 kilometres of sealed roads across 164 local roads. This was an initiative put forward to me by CRAG21, a local group very much pressing that need. Why would people in the hills get second-rate roads compared to, say, a greenfield or new estate, where they get brand new roads with kerbs and channels? When you're living up in the hills—and I've lived up there pretty much all my life—and you live on an unsealed road, you have, obviously, more potholes than you could possibly imagine, which is hard when you're living in Victoria now. There are more potholes there, and there's dust. But the big concern is bushfires, because, on many of these roads, the kerb or the drainage could be nearly a metre deep. So, if there's a fire and people are driving through smoke, it can be exceptionally dangerous. I want to thank Paul Keen and his team at the Cockatoo Road Action Group for the 21st century, CRAG21, for tirelessly advocating on behalf of the hills. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The reason I'm mentioning this today is that, sadly, when the Albanese government came to power, they withdrew $109 million from the project, leaving just $41 million from the original commitment. It went to the Suburban Rail Loop. So it was diverted from unsealed roads in the hills to those ripping off and rorting the Big Build, as we call it—or the big rort, it should be called, when it came to the CFMEU. Now we've had even the Victorian premier, Ben Carroll, acknowledge that the money must be better spent and they're trying to find ways of saving money. First of all, to the Albanese government: you need to reinstate that funding. It's so bad that so many local residents were planning on having their roads upgraded and working with Cardinia council, and the money was taken away. Where did it go? As I say, to the Suburban Rail Loop—the biggest rort around. The money needs to be returned, and I call on the Albanese Labor government to return that money. Finally, I'll just say it was a matched election commitment when Bill Shorten was the leader, and, sadly, Labor broke their promise and reneged on it.</span>
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      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Raise Our Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>91</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Raise Our Voice in Parliament</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>91</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Stanley, Anne MP</name>
              <name.id>265990</name.id>
              <electorate>Werriwa</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="265990" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms STANLEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Werriwa</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:25</span>):  Again this year, young people in my electorate have submitted speeches to the Raise Our Voice program. This is Tanja's contribution:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Next year I turn eighteen, and I will walk into a polling booth for the first time.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Most Australians will vote without ever being taught how our democracy works.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I've sat in classrooms where an election came and went without a single lesson on it.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Australia is rightfully proud of our 90% voting turnout. But turnout isn't understanding, and that gap doesn't sit there quietly.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">We've seen it get used against us.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Not long ago, the Voice referendum got reduced  to a single slogan: "if you don't know, vote no." That wasn't clever messaging.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">It was aimed straight at a gap we built ourselves. That gap won't close on its own.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I am asking Parliament to make civic education a real, compulsory part of every school, properly funded, not a one-off excursion, with our understanding shaped before approaching the ballot, not after.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Because a vote without understanding isn't democracy. It's a ritual.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Democracy was never something we simply inherited at eighteen.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">It's something we have to be taught to understand, trusted to question, and trusted to shape. Every young person in Australia deserves civic education as a right, not a hope.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Anything less is a failure of our democracy.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Nour's contribution is about housing. Nour is 15:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">For my generation, housing is more than the cost of buying a home; it shapes almost every decision we make about our future.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Growing up, I was taught that hard work, contribution and responsibility could lead to a secure future.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Today, that promise feels increasingly out of reach. Young Australians are delaying moving out, starting families, pursuing careers and choosing where to study because affordable housing is becoming harder to find.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Housing is not just an economic issue; it is a question of fairness and opportunity. When essential workers cannot afford to live near the communities they serve, those communities become weaker. When young people spend years worrying about rent instead of building their futures, Australia loses potential.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Parliament has the opportunity to act by increasing affordable housing supply and ensuring new homes are supported by infrastructure like transport, schools, healthcare and jobs. We must build connected, liveable communities where people can belong.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">My generation is not asking for an easy path to home ownership. We are asking for a fair chance to work hard, contribute and build a stable future.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The decisions made today will determine whether the Australian dream remains within reach for future generations.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Thank you to Nour and Tanja for your contributions to this year's Raise Our Voice.</span>
              </p>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Monash Electorate: Roads, Prostate Cancer</title>
          <page.no>92</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Monash Electorate: Roads</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Prostate Cancer</span>
            </p>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>92</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Aldred, Mary MP</name>
              <name.id>11788</name.id>
              <electorate>Monash</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="11788" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms ALDRED</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Monash</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Opposition Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:28</span>):  I'd like to associate myself with the remarks made by the member for Werriwa on the need to strengthen and support civics education in our schools. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In just 10 days time, we will have the MotoGP on Phillip Island for the final time because, to the great disappointment of our state, the Victorian state Labor government have lost the MotoGP to South Australia. But in 10 days time we want to put on a really good show for everyone travelling to wonderful Phillip Island—and yet our local roads are in disrepair. We will be hosting motorbike riders from all over the state and, indeed, all over Australia. There are many motorcycle clubs that come from South Australia and other places for our great event. That is why the Liberal candidate for Bass, Rochelle Halstead, and I are jointly calling on the Victorian state government to send emergency road crews down, right now, to fix those roads. They are unsafe. Unfortunately, we have had a number of accidents. Tragically, we've had a motorcyclist die recently because of a pothole in Victoria. That is not good enough. We deserve better. Rochelle Halstead and I are calling on the state Labor government to get its act together and fix the roads.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's a privilege to rise on behalf of a very important issue to my local community on behalf of constituents like Jason, a tradie who owns his own business in Drouin; like Craig from Lardner Park and their great team, who in fact have their next Baw Baw Big Blokes Barbecue to raise funds for prostate cancer in a couple of days time; and like the Hon. Jim Lloyd, a former minister in this place, who've shared their concerns with me about the funding withdrawal for prostate cancer nurses from next year. The coalition shares the concern of the Prostate Cancer Foundation of Australia and the broader prostate cancer community in what appears to be a rushed and ill considered decision to cut funding from this vital program. I want to commend the big blokes barbecue volunteers who have their event on in Lardner Park shortly. This group has raised $2.2 million in 12 years for prostate cancer support and men's health while supporting prostate cancer awareness to the more-than-700 blokes in attendance. It is a great program. It's a great initiative. Across Australia, more than 130 Prostate Cancer Foundation of Australia specialist nurses work across 100 sites, delivering more than 150,000 consultations every year. This support is absolutely vital to the men that they support and their families. I want to commend that work to this House and call on a reversal of the funding outcome for this great initiative.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Gellibrand Electorate: Roads</title>
          <page.no>92</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Gellibrand Electorate: Roads</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>92</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Watts, Tim MP</name>
              <name.id>193430</name.id>
              <electorate>Gellibrand</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="193430" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WATTS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Gellibrand</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:31</span>):  Residents of Point Cook in my electorate have been stuck in traffic for too long, so I congratulate the state member for Point Cook, Mathew Hilakari, and the Carroll Labor government for their announcement that a re-elected state Labor government will commit $195 million to duplicate Point Cook Road between Central Avenue and Dunnings Road. Point Cook Road connects Australia's biggest suburb to the rest of Melbourne, and, from the freeway exit to Point Cook Homestead Road, it stretches about five kilometres, linking people with friends, family, work and leisure. For most of that length, it's one lane each way, and that's because it was built for a different Point Cook. At the turn of the century, around 2,000 people lived in Point Cook in what was a rural hamlet at the fringe of the city. Today, around 70,000 people call it home. We're forecast to reach 85,000 in the coming decade. Nearly 28,000 vehicles use Point Cook Road every day in the peak, with locals commuting to work via the Princes Freeway and parents doing the school drop-off and pick-up. Ask any of them, and they'll tell you that the road is no longer fit for purpose.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese Labor government knows that growing suburbs in Melbourne's west need infrastructure investment that grows with them. This commitment doesn't stand alone in that respect. It complements the federal government's $3.5 million in funding for the business case to duplicate Point Cook Road between Dunnings Road and Jamieson Way and the $55 million in federal funding to duplicate and upgrade Central Avenue between Lunn Court and Skehan Boulevard, feeding into the Central Avenue and Point Cook Road intersection.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Fixing the Central Avenue intersection is necessary for fixing Point Cook Road, and these works are helping traffic move through the intersection, easing congestion at the top of Point Cook Road and providing improved interchanges with the Princes Freeway. Put those together, as well as the Victorian government's commitment, and you get a pipeline of works that moves section by section down Point Cook Road from Central Avenue, with each project building on the last. That's what you get with state and federal Labor governments working together. You can already see the flow of traffic improve as works are completed. At Central Avenue, the old roundabout is gone, and the new traffic lights are now operating. Further down Point Cook Road at the Sneydes Road intersection, traffic lights have also been installed at an intersection that so many locals once tried to avoid.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We know roadworks can be disruptive, but each phase is an investment in getting our community to where they're going faster and safer. I thank the workforce, who have delivered this project faster than expected. I thank the community, who have put up with a period of time of cones and detours along the way, and I know that Point Cook has waited a long time for this road to be fixed, but we're getting it done, because fixing this road doesn't just mean less time spent in traffic. It means less money spent on fuel and more money in people's back pockets. Most importantly, it gives locals time back in their day, easier school drop-offs, better access to good jobs and more time with their family. We'll keep working with the state Labor government to deliver what Melbourne's west needs.</span>
              </p>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Hinkler Electorate: Disaster and Emergency Management, Hinkler Electorate: Emergency Services</title>
          <page.no>93</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Hinkler Electorate: Disaster and Emergency Management</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Hinkler Electorate: Emergency Services</span>
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          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>93</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Batt, David MP</name>
              <name.id>315478</name.id>
              <electorate>Hinkler</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="315478" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BATT</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hinkler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Nationals Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:34</span>):  As the weather warms up, communities across Hinkler are preparing for another summer of storms, flooding and possible cyclones. Our fire season is already proving active and volatile, and that is why I'm pleased Labor was forced late last week to reverse its senseless move to slash disaster recovery funding to Queensland. This was a bad decision from the outset. Once again, Labor has been forced to back down. I stood alongside the Queensland LNP government, including our local state MPs, Stephen Bennett; David Lee; and John Barounis to demand this decision be overturned. I also advocated alongside the Local Government Association of Queensland and our mayors, Helen Blackburn and George Seymour. Together we made the voices of Hinkler heard, and common sense prevailed.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Back in June, the federal government announced plans to split disaster recovery funding 50/50 with states and territories, having previously contributed up to 75 per cent, but Labor failed to properly consult or explain the decision to those carrying the load on the ground. When disaster strikes, Aussies expect Canberra to step up, not shift the bill to the states and call it reform. Last week, Hinkler participated in Queensland's annual awareness program, Get Ready Queensland. I had the fortune of visiting Bundaberg's aerial firefighting hub, which supports our region and all of Queensland.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The airport hosts an impressive range of world-class firefighting aircraft, including Black Hawk helicopters and the large aerial tanker. With a retardant capacity of 10,000 litres, the tanker helps slow fires, strengthen containment lines and support crews working in difficult terrain. The LAT, as it's known, is a welcome, regular visitor to our region, supporting the Queensland Fire Department's fleet of 14 contracted aircraft. I thank Peter Hollier, the Deputy Chief Officer of Central Region Rural Fire Service Queensland, for assisting with the visit and everyone involved in keeping Queensland safe this fire season.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">On Saturday night, I had the privilege of attending Bundaberg Central Rotary Club's 13th annual Brian Prince Awards, recognising outstanding service in our emergency services. These awards honour the late Brian Prince, a former rotarian and paramedic who always put service above self. It was special to have Brian's wife, Laurel, and son, David, there. The ambulance service award went to Officer Gary Stockwell and the Police Service Award went to Senior Constable Thomas Bell. Senior Firefighter Chris Sheather received the Queensland Fire Department Award, while Jenny Hinds and Aaron Quay were both recognised for their service with Wide Bay Hospital and Health Service. The LifeFlight award went to Captain Tony Miller. Queensland Ambulance Service volunteer Brian Rose was named Volunteer of the Year.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">To all of Hinkler's emergency service personnel and volunteers, those who run towards danger and keep us safe, thank you.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Newcastle Knights, Koori Knockout</title>
          <page.no>94</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p>
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Newcastle Knights</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Koori Knockout</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>94</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Swanson, Meryl Jane MP</name>
              <name.id>264170</name.id>
              <electorate>Paterson</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="264170" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SWANSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Paterson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:37</span>):  Famously, former Newcastle Knights captain Matty Johns said that the 1997 grand final win was 'better than LEGO'. Just a couple of weeks ago, the Hunter was buzzing again at the thought of the Knights chasing another Provan-Summons trophy. We could see it everywhere. We could feel it—red and blue jerseys, flags flying and footy being talked about at the shops, at work, at the pub and at the club. Everyone was getting behind our boys and hoping this would be another year for the mighty Knights. People were painting their houses red and blue. Within days, the Hunter was transformed into a red-and-blue wave of excitement and energy.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">So many Novocastrians and people from right across the Hunter wanted to be part of the moment that after tickets sold out in minutes special venues had to be opened to ensure that fans could get together to watch the game. Even my beloved Heddon Greta Drive In opened up so that local families could get together and share the excitement on the big screen at the drive-in—but don't slash the seats if you don't like the outcome, kids! I can assure you a Roosters jersey was a rare sight in the Hunter that week, except for maybe on Pat Conroy, my lovely colleague. On grand final night, plenty of us gathered around the television to cheer them on.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Unfortunately, it wasn't to be. To lose a grand final by one point is just heartbreaking, but we'll come back again. Those boys did us proud. To go from last year's wooden spoon to playing in the biggest game of the year was an extraordinary achievement. The Knights gave our region so much to cheer about, and they should be incredibly proud of what they've accomplished.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">While we were all caught up in the excitement of the grand final, there was another huge celebration of rugby league happening right in our backyard as well. Over the October long weekend, the Koori Knockout was played in Raymond Terrace—where my office is, on Worimi country—bringing around 40,000 people to our region. And what a fantastic event to host! The Koori Knockout is about so much more than football; it's about bringing people together to celebrate sport, culture and family and just have a great time. Our very own Newcastle Yowies gave us plenty to cheer about, taking out the women's first-grade title for a second year running with a 14-6 win over the Redfern All Blacks. Congratulations to the Yowies. What a wonderful achievement!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But I just want to say: you know what? We're working on our footy. We'll get out the Lego. We'll build again. We'll be back next year for another cracking season of football.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Shepparton Art Museum, Horse Racing</title>
          <page.no>94</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p>
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Shepparton Art Museum</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Horse Racing</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>94</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Birrell, Sam MP</name>
              <name.id>288713</name.id>
              <electorate>Nicholls</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="288713" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BIRRELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Nicholls</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:40</span>):  I rise to speak about the Shepparton Art Museum, or SAM, and, in particular, its successful hosting of works from Australia's favourite and most significant art award, the Archibald Prize. The exhibition coincided with a visit to Greater Shepparton by Her Excellency the Governor-General, Sam Mostyn. It was a happy coincidence, because the portrait by artist James Powditch titled <span style="font-style:italic;">Once Upon a Time in Yarralumla</span> was part of the exhibition—a portrait of the Governor-General. We found ourselves admiring the portrait, and, as the Governor-General said later, it was Sam looking at Sam with Sam at SAM! There was a time when SAM couldn't host such exhibitions; it only had room to display a very small fraction of its own collection. But that changed when the coalition government backed a new museum on the Victoria Park Lake in Shepparton with $15 million. Since opening, the new museum has hosted numerous exhibitions and added significantly to the cultural heart of Shepparton. Along with the Archibald, the Young Archie Shepparton presents 26 portraits created by local students aged between five and 18 years of age, and those portraits are of people near and dear to them.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Over the coming weeks, there will be a lot of focus on racetracks around the country—particularly in our home state of Victoria, Madam Deputy Speaker Aldred—with the Spring Racing Carnival, culminating on 3 November with the running of the Melbourne Cup at Flemington. And the racing industry extends way beyond the track. Northwood Park stud near Seymour, one of the many breeding operations, is in my electorate. Just down the road, you'll find a statue of Black Caviar, the champion racehorse who won all of her 25 starts. She was bred at the nearby Gilgai Farm near Nagambie, in my electorate. The Australian thoroughbred-breeding industry is the second-largest in the world. It supports nearly 10,000 jobs and contributes around $1.7 billion to the national economy. Northwood Park stud is part of the international Godolphin organisation, and it's an incredibly modern and sophisticated set-up on the Goulburn River—again, in my electorate of Nicholls. The farm has a long history as a horse and cattle property originally developed by AG Hunter. He raced and stood the 1925 Melbourne Cup winner, Windbag, on the property. That racehorse, Windbag, has a few namesakes in this place from time to time! Everyone, enjoy the racing and remember that there are thousands of hardworking staff—vets, farriers, feed suppliers and horse transporters—behind every runner during the Spring Carnival.</span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Disaster and Emergency Management, Carers</title>
          <page.no>95</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p>
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Disaster and Emergency Management</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Carers</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>95</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Cook, Kara MP</name>
              <name.id>316537</name.id>
              <electorate>Bonner</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316537" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms KARA COOK</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bonner</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:43</span>):  Today marks the International Day for Disaster Risk Reduction, a reminder that the best time to prepare for a disaster is, of course, long before it strikes. In South-East Queensland, that message couldn't be any more timely. As we enter the high-risk weather season, Brisbane is facing high temperatures, severe thunderstorms, heavy rainfall and hail this week. In light of the rain we've had there today, I'm waiting at the moment to hear from my local netball club about whether my daughter will be playing tonight. In Bonner, we know the devastating impacts of extreme weather. From the 2022 floods to ex-tropical-cyclone Alfred last year—as a community, we loaded thousands of sandbags into cars at the Lota depot over the weeks that led up to that disaster—we've seen roads and homes inundated, power losses for days and local businesses left picking up the pieces. That's why the Albanese Labor government is taking practical steps to strengthen Australia's disaster preparedness.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Through our $1 billion Disaster Ready Fund, we're investing in programs that help communities withstand future disasters. We're delivering AusAlert, a new national emergency warning system designed to get critical information to Australians faster. Of course, we've also confirmed last week that the Commonwealth will continue to deliver up to 75 per cent of eligible disaster recovery funding, with no changes to the existing arrangements, ahead of this higher risk weather season. But disaster resilience starts at home, too. I encourage everyone across Bonner to access the preparedness resources through the National Emergency Management Agency, of course also monitor the Bureau of Meteorology warnings and have an emergency plan in place, because we can't control the weather, but we can make sure that our communities are ready when it turns. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Every day, thousands of people across Bonner go to work looking after someone else. Today, the Albanese Labor government announced a $630 million investment to support fairer pay for more than 460,000 health, disability and community services workers. These increases follow the Fair Work Commission decisions, supported by Labor's reforms, putting gender equality at the heart of our workplace laws. We know that overwhelmingly it's women in these roles. In Bonner, I've already seen the difference that these workers make across so many disability services, our child care services and our domestic violence support services. They are skilled, dedicated workers, whose contribution is absolutely essential. They deserve fair pay, they deserve our respect and they deserve our recognition because caring for others isn't worth less simply because it's a job traditionally done by women. </span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Raise Our Voice in Parliament, Fadden Electorate: Small Business, Housing</title>
          <page.no>95</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Raise Our Voice in Parliament</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Fadden Electorate: Small Business</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Housing</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>95</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Caldwell, Cameron MP</name>
              <name.id>306489</name.id>
              <electorate>Fadden</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="306489" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CALDWELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fadden</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Opposition Chief Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:46</span>):  Today I'm proud to read into the record here in parliament the speech written by 18-year-old Ngarimu as part of the Raise Our Voice in Parliament program. He says:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">A society is judged not by how it responds to success, but by how it protects people in their most vulnerable moments. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">One of the biggest issues shaping our future is domestic and family violence, particularly the support available to women and children when they make the brave decision to leave an abusive situation. This issue shapes our future, because it has the power to take our future. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Queensland has standards and accreditation requirements for government-funded shelters, but many privately operated shelters are not required to meet the same level of consideration. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">This creates a gap where vulnerable women and children may be placed in accommodation that has never been independently assessed for safety, suitability or quality of care. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I want Parliament to make accreditation audits mandatory for all domestic violence shelters, regardless of how they are funded. Basic standards of safety, dignity and support should not depend on where funding comes from.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Every woman who reaches out for assistance has already shown incredible courage, and seeking safety shouldn't be a gamble. Parliament should ensure that when they take that step, the support waiting for them is safe, accountable and worthy of the trust they place in it. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I was very proud recently to visit The Boat Works at Coomera, which is an amazing waterfront marine industry precinct delivered through the drive and vision of Tony Longhurst. I was joined there by the Boating Industry Association, including CEO, Andrew Fielding, and we were lucky enough to tour the precinct and meet some of the wonderful small businesses there. There are about 100 small businesses operating from this precinct, and on any given day you might see up to 1,000 staff around the place. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We went and saw Trent from AHI Marine, a marine mechanics business. There, we were able to present Jesse from AHI with a Highly Commended award from the Boating Industry Association, which was much appreciated by Jesse and well deserved. We saw Gary Cooper and his team from Stella Marine. A big shout out to Gary and his team, who do stainless steel fabrication on many of the locally made boats, and to Stewart Humphries from Marine Solutions. This is an incredibly important part of the local economy, and it was great to visit the precinct. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor keeps telling Australians that they've never had a better time to buy a first home. Are they serious? They are trying to tell young Australians, who are being smashed by Labor's trifecta of housing—higher rents, fewer homes and confidence in the market being smashed—that now is the time to get ahead when we know, after 16 interest rate rises, and their failures, it is not. </span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Bass Electorate: Raise Our Voice Australia</title>
          <page.no>96</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Bass Electorate: Raise Our Voice Australia</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>96</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Teesdale, Jess MP</name>
              <name.id>314526</name.id>
              <electorate>Bass</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="314526" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms TEESDALE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bass</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:49</span>):  Through Raise Our Voice, I'm pleased to share the words of two young people of Bass here in parliament. Firstly, a speech by 11-year-old Eva. These are Eva's words:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Every place has a story and every person has one too. My name is Eva and growing up in Northern Tasmania has taught me the value of resilience and appreciating the world around us.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I'm not actually interested in changing the world, I'm interested in changing minds.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">People can talk in rooms like parliament all they like, but it is the people outside that make the change.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">This is why I feel it is so important for Australia's new generation of thought-provoking conversations and ideas to be heard all over the country.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I believe that by providing older children and young Australians with the opportunity to contribute to federal political decisions would strengthen Australia's democracy. What if junior voices could come together as one just by asking the question "what if"?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">By creating a round table discussion group that politicians can understand young minds through the voice of representatives from each state and territory.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That means that politicians can realise what problems are needing to be solved in local communities that are and will be having many influences on our future.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Sooner or later, we will be the new voice of Australia, so it is imperative that politicians educate young Australians on the true values of our country.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Isn't it … amazing what one thought of "what if" can change the outlook that people can have on our world.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I look forward to sharing about our youth advisory councils with Eva, and I hope that, when she's old enough, she'll nominate to join as an adviser in just a few years.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Today, through Raise Our Voice, I'm pleased to share a speech by 14-year-old Lola. These are Lola's words:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Feminism.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Mistaken for the hatred of inequality, when truly, this is equality.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Feminism is defined by the belief that all should be equal, man, woman, nonbinary, etc.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Today, women experience hell, 1 in 20 women have experienced sexual violence from a male friend or housemate, 1 in 5 women have been raped.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That could be you, if no-one strives to create a difference, to create equality. How can we, as a country, create equality in Australia?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">We lack equality in areas of healthcare, economic equality, workforces, everyday life, representation and safety.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The healthcare and demand for women's health are declining; we need to recognise this.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Although the fair pay laws, women still face difficulty in reaching actual equality in the workplace, lacking in fair pay, underrepresentation in leadership and the undervaluing of women's work.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Especially for women who are LGBTQIA+, racially diverse and/or disabled.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">When will we, as a society, achieve true equality? Just because it seems like women have equal rights, that is not the case.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Only 14 countries have … equal rights between men and women, why don't we make it 15? We can't change the world, but together, we can change our country.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Fairfax Electorate: Netball, Economy</title>
          <page.no>96</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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            <p>
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Fairfax Electorate: Netball</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Economy</span>
            </p>
          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>96</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">O'Brien, Ted MP</name>
              <name.id>138932</name.id>
              <electorate>Fairfax</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="138932" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TED O'BRIEN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fairfax</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:52</span>):  The Sunshine Coast has the greatest netball players in the country. There is nowhere like the Sunshine Coast, and I was delighted recently. I went down to the courts at the bottom of Fishermans Road in Maroochydore, and I was there to announce that they have secured a $2,500 volunteer grant. This grant will basically help the clubs talk to each other, especially when you've got so many people across the courts. It will include training for the volunteers and also the purchase of walkie-talkies so that, as the games are being played, they know not just that things can not organised but that the kids, in particular, can be kept safe. For all of the thousands of netball players across the Sunshine Coast, you are making us proud. Keep going! We love netball.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Small businesses are being absolutely smashed right across the country, and that includes in my electorate of Fairfax on the Sunshine Coast. Recently, I received correspondence from a fellow by the name of Chris Atkinson, who manages a 45-year-old business. With his permission, I want to share a little bit of a story about what he is going through. What he said to me was that his business expenses—his wages are up 26 per cent and fuel is up 50 per cent. Keep in mind he runs a fleet of 25 vehicles. His energy costs are up 200 per cent. He's done all the right things, by the way, with installing solar panels, but costs are still up 200 per cent. Insurance is up well over 20 per cent, and you've got increasing freight costs and supplier fuel levies.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is just one example. Let me read out part of his letter, with his permission: 'It has put me in a position of being another business owner looking to walk away from operating a business and employing humans. It just seems so futile considering the personal, financial and emotional cost of managing something for minimal financial gain and even less future wealth potential. If that's the decision I make, it will leave three commercial properties empty and 40 staff out of work.' Attached families without an income is a poor outcome for any government. More importantly, it's a poor outcome for the economy and it's a poor outcome for the workers. But Chris Atkinson and other business owners are fighting because they fight for their employees, for their customers and for their future. But it requires us to fight for them down here. Chris, we are fighting for you and other small businesses.</span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Raise Our Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>97</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Raise Our Voice in Parliament</span>
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          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>97</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Templeman, Susan MP</name>
              <name.id>181810</name.id>
              <electorate>Macquarie</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="181810" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms TEMPLEMAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Macquarie</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:55</span>):  I'm proud to read part of a Raise Our Voice speech that belongs to Abby, age 17, from the electorate of Macquarie:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">When I was younger, I imagined a future filled with flying cars that would self-drive, jetpacks that would take kids to school, regular holidays to the moon and civilisations beneath the sea. I thought that we would see a society that was constantly moving forwards; however, this is not the case when I think of the future now.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Instead, I think of questions that I believe I shouldn't have to think about just yet.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Will I ever be able to afford a home? Will I be able to buy food without checking the price? Will I be able to earn the income required by the ever-evolving status of our society to support not only myself, but one day a family?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The cost of living crisis in Australia is something that is not only relevant for the adults of <span style="font-weight:bold;">today</span> but is also shaping the fears for the adults of <span style="font-weight:bold;">tomorrow</span>. At 17 years old, I don't think I should be afraid of growing up, nevertheless, I am.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I am afraid that, instead of wondering what remarkable innovations my generation may make that could create a profound change in our society, I am left wondering whether I will be able to afford to live comfortably in Australia's future.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I strongly believe that with extensive consideration, action, and compassion, parliament has a significant ability to change what the future of my generation, and the ones after, see when they think of the future of Australia.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The reduction of energy costs, the increased affordability of houses, and financial support will help the Australians of today and tomorrow achieve the dream of living a comfortable life. And while I know ideas and actions such as these are in effect, they have yet to seek the desirable target in which change is made.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Thank you, Abby, for articulating the need for change so that young people can feel confident about the future.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Like Abby, I don't think we can tick the box yet and say 'job done'. There is more to do, and it will take more time for our reforms to make the change on the scale that's needed. But there are good signs of hope. Our five per cent home deposit program has already seen 1,525 people able to buy their first home in Macquarie. There are now more than 5,700 solar batteries in homes and small businesses in Macquarie. The gender pay gap is the lowest it's ever been. And tax cuts are continuing to flow through as we make the tax system fairer.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Abby, you have set us some clear and important goals, and we'll keep working hard to deliver the future that our young people deserve. Thank you for taking part in the Raise Our Voice speech competition. To all the entrants: we appreciate that you're thinking not just about your lives but about the future of Australia.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="11788" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Aldred</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  If it is the wish of the Federation Chamber, we will extend constituency statements until after the member for Gorton has spoken—which would mean the member for Parkes and then the member for Gorton.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>97</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Aldred, Mary MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>11788</name.id>
                <electorate>Monash</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Raise Our Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>97</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Raise Our Voice in Parliament</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>97</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chaffey, Jamie MP</name>
              <name.id>316312</name.id>
              <electorate>Parkes</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316312" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CHAFFEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Parkes</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:59</span>):  Twelve-year-old Kian, from the Parkes electorate, has written a speech for the Raise Our Voice competition, and it's a beauty. Before I read it out, I'd like to tell you a bit about the story of Kian Al Habbas and his family as told to me by their friend Al Karanouh, a councillor on the Coonamble Shire Council. Al, who owns the Global Village Restaurant and Cafe in Coonamble, is very proud of Kian and his family. Kian's mum, Janice, originally from the Philippines, married an Australian and came to Coonamble, working to earn enough money to bring her three children all the way out to Coonamble. Unfortunately, Janice's husband died not much more than a year after she arrived in Australia. Janice continued to work hard in Al's cafe, working day and night to save money. Within five years she had earned enough money to buy two homes. She brought her children, Mustafa, Sofia and Kian, to Australia, where they have become a very integral part of Coonamble life. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The family is over the moon that Kian's speech is one of the speeches chosen in the Raise Our Voice competition. There are two other stand-out speeches from young people in the Parkes electorate for the competition. They were from Lilah, aged 12, and Molly, aged 16. Today I would like to read Kian's speech:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Yaama. My name is Kian and I am 11 years old. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I am going to tell you about a big issue that is shaping my future—access to resources. For us to get access to medical facilities we have to travel a long distance.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Dubbo is our closest place for big medical services. It is 160km away from Coonamble. In Dubbo hospital, there are only 210 beds, for 130,000 people in its area. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">This is not enough. People have to wait weeks or months for important appointments. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Why would you let thousands of people wait and nearly die when they need hospital support? </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The health service in Coonamble is even worse. With only 11 beds and limited doctors, we have to wait over an hour to be seen. This is horrible. We also do not have specialists in town and need to travel to visit bigger towns to see special doctors. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">People in country towns deserve stronger government support for better access to medical facilities. Access to medical services is important to make sure that everyone in our town is safe and healthy. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Yes, Kian, it is important, and we—the Liberals and Nationals in a coalition—will continue to fight to make sure that better access to health care is available. Thank you for your speech, and I wish you and your family and the beautiful Coonamble community all the best.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299150" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Lawrence</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Thank you, Kian. I give the call to the member for Gorton. </span>
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          </talk.text>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>98</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Lawrence, Tania MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>299150</name.id>
                <electorate>Hasluck</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Raise Our Voice in Parliament, Western Freeway</title>
          <page.no>98</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Raise Our Voice in Parliament</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Western Freeway</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>98</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Jordan-Baird, Alice MP</name>
              <name.id>316021</name.id>
              <electorate>Gorton</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="316021" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms JORDAN-BAIRD</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Gorton</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:02</span>):  As part of the Raise Our Voice campaign, it's a privilege to deliver this speech written by Maryam, a young person living in my electorate of Gorton in Melbourne's west:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">One major issue that influences my future is ensuring young people from immigrant backgrounds have equal chances to succeed in Australia. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I moved to Australia five years ago. Like many immigrant families, I had to adjust to a new language, culture, and lifestyle. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Although Australia has offered me many opportunities, I realize that not every young person finds the transition easy. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Many students from immigrant backgrounds face challenges like language barriers, financial struggles, and a sense of not fully belonging. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">These obstacles can impact their education, confidence, and future options. I want Parliament to invest more in programs that support migrant and refugee students. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">This includes improving English language support, mentoring programs, and resources that help young people feel connected to their schools and communities. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Australia is built on diversity. When young people from all backgrounds receive support, they can share their skills, ideas, and experiences to strengthen our country. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">As a 16-year-old who has lived in Australia for five years, I believe every young person deserves the opportunity to succeed, regardless of where they were born. Thank you.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our community in Melbourne's west is growing, and fast. If you're on the roads like I am, you'll know that growth brings more cars and pressure on local infrastructure, which needs to keep pace with growth. Every day, more than 86,000 people rely on the Western Freeway to get to and from work, and Westies have a right to expect their commutes to be safe and reliable. It's why I'm so excited that our Labor government will be upgrading the Western Freeway between Melton and Caroline Springs.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Last year, the Albanese Labor government committed $1 billion to this project, and now the Victorian Carroll Labor government is investing a further $550 million to make our roads safer and reduce congestion. Our recent budget draws down on $50 million to get preconstruction works underway on this much-needed upgrade. We are delivering around 30 kilometres of new lanes along the freeway. It will mean three lanes in each direction between Ferris Road and Hopkins Road and four lanes in each direction between Hopkins Road and Ballarat Road. Key interchanges at Ferris Road, Leakes Road and Hopkins Road will also be upgraded. We are listening and acting. Temporary traffic lights will also be installed at the Leakes Road interchange, with work expected to be completed by early next year. There will also be a new half interchange at Mount Cottrell Road, giving local communities better freeway access. This is about making life easier and safer for families across Melbourne's growing west—safer trips, less time on the roads and more time at home with your families.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299150" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Lawrence</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  In accordance with standing order 193, the time for members' constituency statements has concluded.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>99</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Lawrence, Tania MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>299150</name.id>
                <electorate>Hasluck</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
    </debate>
    <debate>
      <debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>99</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
      </debateinfo>
      <debate.text>
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          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">BILLS</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Register Levy) Amendment Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>99</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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            <a href="r7544" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Register Levy) Amendment Bill 2026</span>
              </p>
            </a>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>99</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo>
          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">"whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(1) notes that:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(a) despite joint replacements being considered elective surgery, they are often critical for a patient's overall health and wellbeing as well as their broader productivity;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(b) approximately 60 to 70 per cent of total hip and knee joint replacements are performed on individuals aged over 65;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(c) the majority (around 70 per cent) of total knee and hip replacement surgeries occur in the private sector;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(d) the Government's proposal to cut the private health insurance rebate for over 65s will force many older Australians to downgrade or abandon their private health cover;</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(e) individuals who are no longer covered by private insurance for joint replacements will join public waiting lists; and</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(f) public elective surgery waiting lists have blown out with some patients waiting months or even years to access joint replacement operations; and</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">(2) criticises the Government for cutting the private health insurance rebate for over 3 million older Australians, including over 1.2 million pensioners".</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>99</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Ambihaipahar, Ash MP</name>
                <name.id>315618</name.id>
                <electorate>Barton</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="315618" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms AMBIHAIPAHAR</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Barton</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:05</span>):  I rise to speak on the Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Registrar Levy) Amendment Bill 2026. Before I was a lawyer, long before I was a member in this place, I worked in anatomy. I spent many days and years in a lab at the University of Sydney preparing human specimens for teaching. My work was not only teaching anatomy but also embalming people who donated their whole body to science through the University of Sydney's program. It's not the most common opening line you'd have at a dinner party, for sure! It might clear a room, but it also might strike up a really good conversation with someone who might be curious about the work that I was doing. But I want to say something sincere about this work because it shaped how I see this bill. Every specimen I prepared had once been a person, someone who was a family member, who had a favourite chair or music and who chose to give their body to science for strangers to learn from. I never stopped being grateful to the many people who donate their bodies to science, and I never will.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Some of my favourite work was particularly working with trainee surgeons. Through the courses run by the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons, I helped prepare human specimens for doctors specialising in orthopaedics. Let me tell you, trainee orthopaedic surgeons are a particular breed. They're wonderfully skilled and focused, with an enthusiasm for power tools that would probably put most weekend renovators to shame. I used to watch them work out the angle of a cut, the feel of the bone under their hands and how a joint is actually meant to sit and move in the human body. I thought: 'Somewhere out there is a stranger who doesn't know yet that they'll need a new joint. One day they'll be lying on a table trusting that the person holding that scalpel knows exactly what they're doing and that the device is going to work well and also be safe.'</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Let me tell you what the National Joint Replacement Registry is, because it is vital. The Australian Orthopaedic Association runs it. It collects information from hospitals across the country to really improve the quality of care for people having joint replacements. Think of it as the most patient record keeper in the world. It follows these devices for years, for decades. If one starts performing worse than it should, the registry is how we find out.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But even the most dedicated registry has to pay its bills. The cost of running it is funded under a Commonwealth grant agreement, and that cost is recovered through a levy on the medical device companies that supply the devices used in joint replacement surgery, which makes sense. If you profit from supplying those devices, you chip in to keep that system honest. That is fair to say.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Here's where we hit a bit of an issue. Under the Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Register Levy) Act 2009, the levy is capped at $5,000 per device per financial year. Our cap sounds perfectly reasonable—it's got that tidy vibe to it—but, in practice, it has produced a result that is not balanced. Picture two companies. One is a big supplier shifting enormous volumes of devices. The other is a smaller medium-sized business supplying much fewer. Under the cap, the big supplier hits that ceiling pretty quickly. From then on, every additional device is effectively free of levy. Meanwhile, the smaller company is paying close to the full amount on each device it sells. So the company moving the most product pays the least in proportion, and the smaller players carry more than their fair share. If you were designing a system from scratch, I don't think anyone would sketch it that particular way.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I spent about a decade, after working at Sydney uni, as an employment industrial relations lawyer, representing workers as well as employers and big and small businesses. One thing I learnt in that time is that a cost feels very different depending on where you're standing—so for a large company an unfair levy is a line in some sort of spreadsheet, but for a small or medium-sized business it can be the difference between hiring additional staff, backing the next innovation and staying in the market or not. Fairness in how a cost is shared isn't some abstract principle or thought; it is a practical one.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Here's the fix, and it's quite simple. This bill amends the 2009 act to remove the cap of $5,000 per device per financial year. Once it's gone, the levy will be allocated in proportion to the actual volume of devices each company supplies. Supply more, contribute more; supply less, contribute less—fairer, simpler and exactly what we promised in the 2025-26 budget. I want to be clear about what this is not: it's not a new tax. It doesn't change what the registry does or how it does it. It simply changes how a cost that already exists is shared out, so the load sits where it should.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Let me bring this in a more practical way to my electorate of Barton, because this is where it gets real—especially for me; I played too much tennis as a kid, and trying to play squash these days in the courts downstairs and also doorknocking in my community takes a toll on my knees. But when you walk through my electorate, in Hurstville, Rockdale, Kingsgrove, Bexley and Carlton, you'll meet people whose lives have been changed by a joint replacement. A grandfather in Hurstville who spent 40 years on his feet in the kitchen can finally go to the park with his grandkids. A nonna in Earlwood who swore she'd never see the garden in spring is now bossing around tomatoes and probably scaling those prickly pear bushes as well—and that's a reflection of my childhood, growing up with the Italian family that raised me. There is the bricklayer in Kingsgrove whose knees clocked out long ago. And it's not only our older residents; it's also sporting people. It's the netballer on the courts of West Botany Street who has done her knee for the second time and is already asking whether she can get back out there. It's the weekend footballer who has been playing since he was six and whose body is now sending him a very detailed invoice on the system. These are people who fill our clubs, our halls and our sidelines. They are the heartbeat of the electorate of Barton, and when their joints let them down they deserve a health system that gets them moving again.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Here's the thing, though: nobody is thinking about a registrar or a levy when they're on the operating table. Why would they? They're thinking about whether it will hurt, how long the recovery is going to take and whether they'll be dancing with their daughter at her wedding next year. But they are relying on this system all the same. They're relying on the fact that somebody is going to be keeping track. A database somewhere is watching how these devices perform over 10, 15 or 20 years. If something goes wrong, someone will notice and the surgeons will know. That's the quiet assurance of the registry. A registry only keeps its assurance if it's properly and sustainably funded by a system that the industry itself can see is fair. A levy that squeezes little guys while the big ones coast doesn't build confidence. It really is a levy that treats everyone proportionately.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">
                    </span>Let's not forget about the businesses themselves, because Australia has small- and medium-sized medical device companies doing really clever, innovative work—some right in my electorate of Barton; we have a large health precinct in the St George area—and we want them here. We want them competing, inventing and giving Australian surgeons and patients more choice. An unfair cost structure is a very much a quiet barrier to all of that, so fixing it is good for business, but it's even better for patients.</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>100</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">McCormack, Michael MP</name>
                <name.id>219646</name.id>
                <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr McCORMACK</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Riverina</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:15</span>):  I appreciate that there has been an amendment moved by the coalition for this particular bill, and that is entirely appropriate. The situation with the Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Register Levy) Amendment Bill 2026 is that, sadly, there is an inequity. I listened to the member for Barton talk about fairness and proportionality, but, sadly, there is a huge gulf at the moment between country and city medical provisions. I note that, earlier this year, in March in fact, Professor Kerin Fielding came to parliament. She is the president of the Council of Presidents of Medical Colleges. She's also a Wagga Wagga orthopaedic surgeon. She, very much, told us how it is in regional centres. She spoke of the difficulties with regional health as opposed to metropolitan services, and she would know.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As I say, she is a fine orthopaedic surgeon. She's also, in fact, the wife of the independent state member for Wagga Wagga, Dr Joe McGirr, who is himself, obviously, a medical professional. She had this to say in relation to older Australians. She was talking about the cost, whether, in fact, older Australians could still afford health care, how long an older Australian would have to wait and how far they would have to travel. She referenced her 90-year-old mother, and she said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">They're getting bills they didn't expect, or they're avoiding a referral altogether because they don't know what it will cost.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">The Minister recently told Parliament that over 800,000 Australians delayed specialist care last year because of affordability. That is a serious problem. Australia has one of the best health systems in the world and every Australian should be able to access affordable, high-quality specialist care without risking financial hardship.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I don't think there would be too many people who would disagree with Associate Professor Fielding's remarks in that regard. I have referenced this in the parliament before, in relation to the statistics that she used—and there were Labor members and ministers at this particular speech that she gave in this place. She referenced that rural Australia has 2.7 doctors per 1,000 people compared to metropolitan Australia, which has 4.3. She said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Potentially preventable hospitalisations are 30 per cent higher in outer regional areas and 70 per cent higher in remote communities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">Thirty per cent of the country's population, are too often overlooked, and for too long, our health system has been built around metropolitan centres. The consequences of that are felt every day in regional communities. The communities that grow and provide our food and much more!</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I reference that in relation to this bill because I think, when we talk about health, we do need to talk about and, moreover, act upon the inequities of our system. Associate Professor Fielding is absolutely 100 per cent correct. I think the member for Barton would agree, too, that we do have a very, very good health system, and we're very lucky. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It doesn't matter which side of politics is in government—well, it does. I'd sooner be in government than be in opposition, trust me. But, as far as our health system is concerned, I know there's often at election time these fibs told about the fact that the coalition is selling off Medicare and all these other things to try to get a vote, which is, of course, not true. It worries me that the Prime Minister pulls out his green and gold Medicare card and says, 'This is all you will need.' It worries me that the urgent care clinics are not distributed fairly—and they are not—across Australia. It worries me that there is an inequity in health between country and city. We don't need that sort of divide.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill will remove the cap of $5,000. It always worries me when we start talking about caps of $5,000, having had that allied health experience with the $5,000 cap with veterans, but, thankfully, the government has finally come to its senses and said that it will change that. I just wait to see the devil in the detail with that. Removing this cap from the national joint replacement registry levy act that can be imposed per medical device listed on the prescribed list of medical devices and human tissue products for a financial year—so it goes, with this change, the levy will be allocated in proportion. I heard the member for Barton speak to that. The levy will be allocated in proportion to the actual volume of devices supplied by medical device companies, creating a fairer and more equitable distribution of the levy. Hopefully, that stacks up and certainly is as it is intended to be. The Australian Orthopaedic Association collects information from all relevant hospitals in Australia to define, improve and maintain the quality of care of individuals receiving joint replacement surgery.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I do worry as well, though, when we talk about relevant hospitals. Again, when we look at the health legislation and health policy before us at the moment, we have the situation where the private health insurance rebate that over 65 have relied upon is being taken away, and that is bad in itself, let alone the fact that hospitals are very worried that this will push their patients onto the public state hospital system. Our state public hospitals already have long, long queues for certainly such things as hip replacements, knee replacements and joint replacements, per se. There is going to be a huge dilemma that that insurance rebate situation for over 60 fives—it's a cliff, and we're about to go over it. The worry is that we will lose some private hospitals. We will actually have hospitals close. These are not my words. That is already the fear being expressed by many in the health sector. Just as bad as that—and we don't want to see any hospitals close—is the fact that it is already difficult enough for our state public hospital system to cope with the number of patients they have now.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I am very, very lucky in Wagga Wagga. I have the Wagga Wagga Base Hospital, which is relatively new in the scheme of things, and we've also got the Calvary Riverina Hospital, which has been operating for many, many decades, and both do a fine job. They're all in the one Docker Street medical precinct, and long may they not only service the entire Murrumbidgee Valley, which encompasses, quite frankly, probably around a quarter of a million people, if you add up all the people who go to that hospital from not just Wagga Wagga, a population of 73,000 or so, but also the Murrumbidgee irrigation area centred on Griffith, a population of 32,000 or so, and everywhere in between but service elsewhere as well throughout the Riverina and south-west and southern New South Wales. Fortunately, there is a good relationship between the public hospital, Wagga Wagga Base Hospital, and the private hospital, Calvary hospital, and we have other day surgeries as well. They all perform hip replacements, knee replacements and joint replacements, and that is good.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian Orthopaedic Association is provided funding for components of the registry's administration through a Commonwealth grants agreement which is efficiently cost recovered through the imposition of a levy under the Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Register Levy) Act of 2009. The levy is paid by the medical device industry. This is the situation with the particular bill before us. I appreciate that it has the support of Private Healthcare Australia, the Australian Orthopaedic Association and the Medical Technology Association of Australia, as you would expect it would. I would like to think that something as important as this which will have some profound impacts upon the health sector would have received the stakeholder engagement and the stakeholder support that in fact it needs. The Commonwealth grants agreements are something that the health minister controls and runs. It is an important process not just with the public system but with the states as well.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is important as we get older. I heard the member for the member for Barton talking about the strain on her knees while she doorknocks. My goodness, she's still in her 30s—a long way—</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Ambihaipahar:</span>
                    </a>  Thirty-nine.</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr McCORMACK:</span>
                    </a>  Oh, 39? Okay, well, you've given your age away. I would never suggest to give a woman's age away! But, anyway, I'll just take that interjection. She's a long way from getting knee and hip replacements, I hope. It's her reference, not mine. Please don't think I'm doing anything wrong here. But, rest assured, there are older Australians who thankfully do have—</span>
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                    <span style="font-style:italic;">A division having been called in the House of Representatives—</span>
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                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sitting suspended from 17:27 to 17:36</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr McCORMACK:</span>
                    </a>  As I was saying before the division, when the member for Barton is doorknocking around Kogarah, Banksia and Bexley North, I do hope that her knees hold up; I certainly do. That's genuine. Older members of her community who need health care fortunately will have it in spades. But it's not that easy—the further you go from the bright city lights, the harder it gets. I appreciate that the assistant minister for health, who sits opposite, understands that too. She in fact was at Associate Professor Fielding's address in March this year and heard the good orthopaedic surgeon from Wagga Wagga detail just how difficult it was for country people, particularly older regional people, to access those health services. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It wasn't that long ago that the NSW Council of Social Services put out a report. They commissioned it. It was conducted by the University of Canberra. It was entitled <span style="font-style:italic;">Access </span><span style="font-style:italic;">denied:</span><span style="font-style:italic;"> Australians locked out of </span><span style="font-style:italic;">quality </span><span style="font-style:italic;">healthcare</span>, and it revealed an alarming situation in primary health in my home state. Since the last NCOSS report in 2020, the Riverina has had a more than 330 per cent increase in people who can't afford to visit a GP, let alone a specialist, let alone a specialist who may well have to replace a hip or a knee or another joint. More than one in three people, 37 per cent in fact, delay or avoid seeing a specialist due to cost, an increase of over 180 per cent since the previous report in 2020—admittedly, this was a 2024 report, but the situation hasn't improved—whilst almost a third of people, 32 per cent, visited the emergency department in the Riverina because their GP wasn't available. This is higher than the New South Wales state average of 23 per cent.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">NCOSS chief executive Cara Varian said the report found that patient experiences with vital health services, including general practitioners, specialists and dentists in New South Wales, had gone backwards since its 2020 report, and regional areas were more heavily impacted than metropolitan areas. This quote really, sadly, sums it up:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">This report illustrates that the health system is broken. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I refer to what I said earlier. Our health system is very good, but we can do a whole lot better. We can do a whole lot better for the sake of country people, who, as the associate professor said, provide the food and the fibre and the mining and the resources, and help our balance of payments. The obligation and the commitment and the duty of care is on governments at all levels to make sure that they do better, certainly for regional Australians.</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Lawrence</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  I understand the member for Pearce would like to present a copy of her speech for incorporation into <span style="font-style:italic;">Hansard</span>, in accordance with the resolution agreed to on 6 November 2025.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Roberts, Tracey MP</name>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms ROBERTS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Pearce</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:39</span>):  <span style="font-style:italic;">The incorporated speech read as follows—</span></span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The National Joint Replacement Registry is one of Australia's quiet success stories in health care. Administered by the Australian Orthopaedic Association, it collects information from virtually all relevant hospitals across the country to define, improve and maintain the quality of care for people receiving joint replacement surgery. Its value is not abstract. The registry improves clinical effectiveness by tracking long-term outcomes, identifying which prostheses and surgical approaches perform best and giving clinicians the evidence they need to make better choices for patients. It has collected data on more than two million procedures since 1999, with coverage exceeding 99 per cent of 'primary' and 'revision' joint replacements in Australia. That depth and continuity of data allows us to see, over years and decades, which implants last, which fail, and why.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is real-world evidence that saves patients from unnecessary pain, additional surgery and lost time with family and at work. It also saves the health system money. Independent analysis finds the registry delivers around $10 in benefits for every dollar spent, with net benefits of roughly $390 million to 2022.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian Orthopaedic Association is provided funding to operate the registry through a Commonwealth grant agreement which is efficiently cost recovered through the imposition of a levy authorised by the Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Register Levy) Act 2009. That levy falls on sponsors of joint replacement devices listed on the Prescribed List of Medical Devices and Human Tissue Products—in other words, the companies that supply these devices into the Australian market. This design is intentional.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Those who benefit from the registry's work, including manufacturers whose products are monitored and compared, contribute to its ongoing operation. At the same time, the cost recovery model ensures that the registry remains independent, clinically led and focused on patient outcomes, rather than commercial interests.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The purpose of the Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Register Levy) Amendment Bill 2026 is straightforward: to remove the $5,000 levy cap per device per financial year. Under the current law, no matter how many units of a particular device a company supplies in a year, the levy payable for that device type is capped at $5,000. That cap was designed with good intentions—to avoid excessive burdens on industry—but, in practice, it has produced an inequitable outcome.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The existing levy cap has resulted in smaller and medium sized medical device companies bearing a disproportionate share of the financial burden, while companies that supply large volumes of devices pay comparatively less per unit. A company that supplies a modest number of implants can quickly hit the cap and then pay no further levy on additional units, whereas a very high-volume supplier effectively pays a much lower levy per device once the cap is reached. This distorts the market. It means the levy is not allocated in proportion to the actual volume of devices supplied. It also means that the companies doing the most business in joint replacement devices are not contributing proportionately to the system that monitors the safety and performance of those same devices.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">By eliminating the cap, the amendment ensures the levy is allocated in proportion to the actual volume of devices supplied by the medical device companies. Removing the cap will create a fairer and more equitable distribution of the levy across the industry. This is important because, as demand for joint replacement grows with an ageing population and increasing rates of chronic disease and obesity, the registry will become even more important to maintaining safe, effective and high-quality orthopaedic care.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia already sees tens of thousands of hip and knee replacements each year, and those numbers are rising. Every additional procedure adds to the data that keeps the registry robust, but it also increases the stakes. We must be confident that the implants being used are the best available and that emerging problems are identified early. A well-funded, independent registry is central to that confidence. It allows the Therapeutic Goods Administration, clinicians, hospitals and patients to see which implant combinations have higher-than-expected revision rates and to act on that information. It supports continuous quality improvement, not just at the level of individual surgeons and hospitals but across the entire national system.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government's continued support for the registry reflects its commitment to evidence based health care, patient safety, clinical quality and the responsible use of private health insurance contributions. Australians who hold private hospital insurance expect their premiums to be used wisely. They expect that the devices implanted in their bodies are monitored, that poor performers are identified quickly and that clinicians have access to the best possible information when making decisions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The National Joint Replacement Registry delivers exactly that. It turns routine clinical data into actionable intelligence. It has already influenced practice—for example, by highlighting higher revision rates for certain implant designs and bearing surfaces and by showing where particular patient groups face greater risks. It has supported the expansion of data collection beyond hips and knees to shoulders, elbows, wrists, ankles and spinal disc replacements, reflecting the evolving needs of patients and clinicians.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Ensuring the levy is fairly distributed strengthens the financial base for this work. It means the registry can continue to invest in data quality, timely reporting and the integration of new measures such as patient reported outcomes, which are increasingly important in understanding how people actually feel and function after surgery.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill is targeted and proportionate. It does not create a new tax. It does not expand the scope of the levy. It simply removes an arbitrary cap that has produced unintended and inequitable results. Medical device companies will continue to pay the levy only on devices that fall within the prescribed list. The rate structure remains unchanged.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What changes is the total levy payable, which will now reflect the true volume of devices supplied so that larger suppliers contribute in line with their market presence. For smaller and medium sized companies, this reform levels the playing field. For larger companies, it ensures their contribution matches the scale of their activity in the Australian market. And, for patients, it reinforces the principle that the system that watches over implant safety is funded fairly by those who participate in that market.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the electorate of Pearce, we see the importance of this work every day. Our community includes many older Australians who have benefited from hip and knee replacements to regain mobility and independence as well as younger patients seeking to return to work and active lives after injury or arthritis. Families in Pearce rely on our public and private hospitals to deliver safe, high-quality orthopaedic care, and they trust that the implants used in those hospitals are monitored rigorously for safety and performance. Strengthening the funding model for the National Joint Replacement Registry is, in practical terms, a way of standing with those patients and their surgeons and ensuring that the data that protects them remains robust, independent and sustainable.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Joint replacement surgery transforms lives. It restores mobility, reduces pain and allows people to return to work, sport and family life. But, like any surgical intervention, it carries risks, and the quality of implants and techniques matters enormously to long-term outcomes. The National Joint Replacement Registry is a cornerstone of Australia's approach to managing those risks. It is clinically led, nationally comprehensive and internationally respected. Ensuring its funding model is fair and sustainable is a basic responsibility of this parliament.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Register Levy) Amendment Bill 2026 does exactly that. It removes the $5,000 cap so that the levy is allocated in proportion to the actual volume of devices supplied, creating a fairer and more equitable distribution of the levy across the industry. In doing so, it strengthens the foundation for a registry that will be even more critical as our population ages and demand for joint replacement continues to grow. I commend the bill to the House.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Ryan, Monique MP</name>
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                <electorate>Kooyong</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr RYAN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kooyong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">17:40</span>):  The Private Health Insurance (National Joint Replacement Register Levy) Amendment Bill 2026 removes the $5,000 cap on the levy payable per device per financial year by sponsors of joint replacement prostheses. The levy funds the Australian Orthopaedic Association National Joint Replacement Registry. To date, the cap has meant that small and medium sized device companies have been forced to carry a disproportionate share of the registry's costs. Removal of the cap will ensure that the levy paid is proportional to the number of devices sold by each company.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The National Joint Replacement Registry is an excellent demonstration of what can be achieved with good clinical data, but its success reflects how Australia is failing in other ways with our health data. In 2002, Australian surgeons performed more than 50,000 hip and knee replacements. At that time, we had no good data on the long-term effect of those devices. The best estimate was that one in five hip replacements would eventually need revision. Australian orthopaedic surgeons decided that that wasn't good enough. They built a registry which now collects data from every relevant hospital in Australia, public and private, on every joint replacement performed. That registry has saved Australians from real harm. In 2007, the registry identified the ASR metal-on-metal hip resurfacing device as an outlier, with a revision rate more than double that of comparable prostheses. By the end of 2009, the manufacturer had withdrawn both ASR devices from the Australian market.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia now has more than 140 clinical registries operating nationally and across jurisdictions. They inform best-practice care, quality improvements, health policy and resource planning. Some of them are world leading. But they're a patchwork, established at different times for different reasons and funded in different ways. The Joint Replacement Registry is funded by an industry levy collected under its own legislation. Other registries are funded through time limited Commonwealth grants. The National Clinical Quality Registry Program provides $40 million over four years to support 10 existing national registries. Other registries rely on the Medical Research Future Fund or on time limited NHMRC grants. Some are funded by state governments. Some are funded by specialist colleges or universities, charities or patient groups. Others are funded by pharmaceutical companies with a commercial interest in their outcomes. Many, if not most, survive on the goodwill of clinicians who enter data into those registries in their own time, and I know this from personal experience.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I founded the Australian Neuromuscular Disease Registry in 2020. It's housed at the Murdoch Children's Research Institute. It's one of 70 registries in the TREAT-NMD global network, which harmonises datasets so researchers across the world can pull data across borders, which was essential when every one of the conditions that we were studying was rare. The registry is funded by patient groups like Muscular Dystrophy Australia and Save Our Sons, with some support from pharma. It largely depends on the dedication of clinicians like my former colleagues Dr Eppie Yiu and Mrs Robin Forbes.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The reality is that long-term data has never mattered more. If we look at the gene therapies and genetic therapies now being given to Australian children with neuromuscular disease, which are given once and meant to last a lifetime, approvals are largely based on short-term data from small clinical trials. The TGA has adopted the European guideline on the quality and clinical aspects of gene therapy medicines—</span>
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                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">A division having been called in the House of Representatives—</span>
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                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sitting suspended from 17:44 to 17:57</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="297660" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Dr RYAN:</span>
                    </a>  The TGA has adopted the European guidelines on the quality and clinical aspects of gene therapy medicines but has not adopted the companion European guidelines on long-term safety and efficacy follow-up, which recommend that patients receiving gene therapies be followed for up to 15 years. The long-term follow-up that those patients need falls back on registries like ours, registries run on goodwill and short-term grants. When the Commonwealth consulted on a national clinical-quality registry strategy, stakeholders were unified in saying that our approach to registries is ad hoc and fragmented and that the sector needs sustainable national funding.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But funding was absent when the national Clinical Quality Registry Strategy was finally released in 2021 and is still absent five years later, so whether a condition, a device or a procedure is properly monitored in Australia depends less on its importance to public health than on whether a group of committed clinicians start a registry of their own. Australian women harmed by transvaginal mesh implants know what that costs. So do those who received defective breast implants produced by Dow Corning and those placed at risk by the now recalled Philips sleep apnoea devices.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Last week in Kooyong I met with Catherine Shang, the CEO of the Australian Cardiovascular Alliance. Heart disease and stroke account for one in four deaths in Australia, but we have no national profile of them. Cardiovascular data is held in hospital records and standalone registries in different formats in different jurisdictions. Compare that with cancer, where mandatory reporting of every diagnosis has supported a national database since 1982. The gap is most stark in sudden cardiac death. Sudden cardiac arrest affects over 25,000 Australians every year. On average, one Australian under 35 suffers a sudden cardiac arrest every day. Those statistics are derived from a Victorian registry that was enabled through a philanthropic donation but has now stalled.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Kooyong constituents Gordon and Bronwyn Thoms know the cost of that. In 2023, their daughter, Alexandra, died from sudden cardiac arrest at just 23 years of age. Alexandra was a happy 23-year-old who had recently completed her double degree. She died in her sleep without warning. Before losing Alexandra, the Thoms family had no concept that a seemingly healthy young person could die suddenly from an undiagnosed cardiac condition. That lack of awareness is itself part of the challenge that we face. Tragically, it took Alexandra's death to find the underlying genetic cause that then enabled preventive monitoring and potentially life-saving intervention for other family members. Alexandra's brother, Charlie, was diagnosed with the same cardiomyopathy and subsequently received an implanted defibrillator.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian Sudden Cardiac Arrest Alliance has brought the sudden cardiac arrest community together to identify what we need to do. Working with clinicians, researchers, survivors and bereaved families, they have developed evidence based recommendations for a coordinated national sudden cardiac arrest plan. One of AuSCAA's central recommendations is a near-real-time registry of cardiac arrest cases able to identify risks, measure outcomes and drive continuous improvement. Victorian researchers were tracking every arrest in people aged one to 50, determining the cause and circumstances of each to target prevention. A similar registry being established in New South Wales now is struggling to connect emergency services with forensic information, and its ongoing funding is uncertainty. Organisations like AuSCAA shouldn't have to fight for data infrastructure and coordinated action. The Commonwealth should be providing that. It now needs to meet with AuSCAA. It needs to act urgently to fund and implement a national sudden cardiac arrest plan.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Another problem is the fact that our registries and the larger government data collection don't speak to each other. The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare holds national hospital mortality and cancer data. Communicable diseases are reported through the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System. Occupational lung diseases, like silicosis, are captured in the National Occupational Respiratory Disease Registry. Each of these have their own legal basis, governance, data standards and custodians. But, when registries want to link data with hospital records or death records, they're often forced to do that as a one-off project. They have to seek approvals in each jurisdiction, negotiate with multiple data custodians and satisfy multiple ethics committees. One-off linkages are labour intensive, slow and expensive.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This country collects enormous amounts of healthcare data but then walls it up in separate silos. Look at Medicare. Every time an Australian sees a GP or a specialist, undergoes a procedure, has a pathology test or an imaging study or fills a PBS script, the Commonwealth has a record of that. Medicare and the PBS constitute one of the biggest and most complete longitudinal, population-wide health datasets in the world. But our clinical registries struggle to access that data. Think about what routine access to that data could do. A registry tracking a new hip or knee device could see, without asking a single extra question of the surgeon or the patient, whether recipients go on to need more physiotherapy, less pain medication, more imaging or more specialist reviews than recipients of other devices. A registry for a chronic condition could measure in real time whether the care that Australians receive matches the guidelines that we spent so much time and money writing. The Commonwealth is already paying for this data. It has the legal authority to share it safely and under strict privacy considerations, but it's lacked the infrastructure, the will and the single focus for it until now.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This year, after nearly four decades of advocacy from public health experts, Australia has finally established the Australian Centre for Disease Control. The CDC was created to be a data-driven organisation, one able to modernise our surveillance systems and enable data sharing and linkage across the Commonwealth, the states and the territories. It already houses the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System and the National Occupational Respiratory Disease Registry. The COVID-19 response inquiry recommended that the CDC be expanded to include non-communicable diseases, building on that data infrastructure and that linkage capacity.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I believe that clinical and disease registries should be part of that expansion. Imagine if, instead of 140 separate registries, each with its own funding fights, IT systems, data standards and linkage negotiations, we had a national registry platform hosted by the CDC, working closely with the AIHW and the safety and quality commission. Registries could keep their own clinical leadership. They should, but the infrastructure, the secure data environment, the common standards and the enduring links to Medicare and the PBS, to hospital records, to other registries and to the National Death Index could be built once and shared by all. That would mean routine rather than one-off data linkage and a sustainable, transparent funding model which doesn't depend on which registries happen to have their own act of parliament. Australians are rightly cautious about how their health information is used. A national platform would need strong legislative safeguards, independent oversight and genuine transparency about who accesses what data and why, but I think it's fair to say, given my experience of the milieu, that a single well-governed, well-secured national system could well be safer than dozens of underresourced ones, each managing sensitive data on its own.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As it stands, progress in the health portfolio is slow. I would argue too slow. The government's health technology assessment review made 50 recommendations more than two years ago, and its implementation advisory groups roadmap has been in limbo since the end of last year. The strategic examination of research and development handed the Albanese government 20 recommendations last December. We're still waiting for a government response to those. There are more reasons for urgency. The government is now working through how artificial intelligence should and could be adopted and used in our healthcare system. AI is only ever as good as the data that it learns from. Coordinated, high-quality national health data should be the foundation of the government's AI agenda in health, not an afterthought.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The national joint replacement registry has shown us what Australian doctors are capable of. This bill helps to make that registry sustainable. I support it, and I thank the government for introducing it, but I'd urge the minister to see this bill as a start of the conversation. Every Australian who has a hip replacement deserves to know that someone is watching to see how well it works—that's happening—but so does every Australian who receives a heart valve, a breast implant, a new cancer treatment or the diagnosis of a rare disease. We have that data. We have that expertise, and we now have a national centre for disease control. What we need is the ambition to bring them together in the interests of data interoperability to further advance our healthcare system. With that in mind, I move the amendment as circulated in my name:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "reading" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">"the House:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) notes that:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) for more than two decades, the National Joint Replacement Registry has demonstrated the value of high-quality clinical registry data to patient safety;</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) Australia's more than 140 clinical registries are fragmented and poorly integrated, and rely on inconsistent and often insecure funding; and</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(c) Medicare Benefits Schedule (MBS) and Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS) data remain largely unused by clinical registries despite their unique value as population-wide, longitudinal health records; and</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      23pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) calls on the Government to urgently:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) develop a coordinated national approach to health data collection, including for clinical quality registries;</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) establish common data standards and enduring, privacy-protected linkage between clinical registries, MBS and PBS data, hospital, cancer and death records, and national genomic data resources;</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(c) house a national clinical registry in the Australian Centre for Disease Control;</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(d) prioritise the development of coordinated, high-quality national health data so that the research potential of artificial intelligence in health can be fully realised; and</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(e) release and respond to the Health Technology Assessment Review Implementation Advisory Group's final report and respond to the Strategic Examination of Research and Development report".</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="265980" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Sharkie</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Is the amendment seconded?</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Ryan, Monique MP</name>
                  <name.id>297660</name.id>
                  <electorate>Kooyong</electorate>
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                  <page.no>106</page.no>
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                  <name role="metadata">Sharkie, Rebekha MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>265980</name.id>
                  <electorate>Mayo</electorate>
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                <page.no>106</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Haines, Helen MP</name>
                <name.id>282335</name.id>
                <electorate>Indi</electorate>
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                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Indi</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:07</span>):  I second the member for Kooyong's amendment, and I'd like to make a few brief remarks. We are so lucky to have someone of the calibre of the member for Kooyong in our House to make an amendment such as this with the expertise that she brings to this subject matter. Her career as a medical researcher, as a paediatric neurologist and, indeed, as someone, as she's told us, who established her own register is incredibly important, and it's really pleasing to see the minister in the House listening intently to what she had to say, because she brings such expertise to this subject area.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As the member for Kooyong points out, Australian healthcare data is currently fragmented over more than 140 separate clinical registries. MBS and PBS data is a largely untapped goldmine of longitudinal population-wide health records, and I'm acutely aware of the power of data. It's what transforms our individual experiences into a workable evidence base to support better treatments, safer clinical decisions and more effective policy-making. In my early years as a researcher, I spent a lot of time in Sweden, and Sweden, of course, is part of the broader Nordic goldmine, indeed a treasure chest, of linked clinical data. Together, they form a cluster of registry based medical research based on population ID. The amount of epidemiological information that I was able to tap into as a researcher in Sweden was incredible, and it's something that I simply couldn't do as a researcher in Australia.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There is so much to learn from bringing together our medical evidence so that we can collectively have the power to produce results that can truly change people's lives, and the member for Kooyong has outlined that in such a powerful way. At a time when the economy is crying out for productivity gains, I say this: here is such a brilliant productivity gain. I urge the government to unlock the potential of our clinical data. I commend the member for Kooyong's amendment to the House.</span>
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                <page.no>107</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">White, Rebecca MP</name>
                <name.id>224102</name.id>
                <electorate>Lyons</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="224102" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms WHITE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lyons</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Women, Assistant Minister for Health and Aged Care and Assistant Minister for Indigenous Health</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:10</span>):  I thank honourable members for their contribution, especially the member for Indi and the member for Kooyong—may you long be the member for Kooyong! The contributions you each made were very thoughtful. Thank you very much for sharing your insights. It's very interesting work, and I'm interested to understand how we might do better when it comes to the interoperability of information across the broader health system and making sure we ultimately deliver better health outcomes through the use of that information.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Having said that, whilst I recognise the value in the member for Kooyong's contribution, we won't be supporting her amendment or the member for Lindsay's amendment. This particular bill does a specific job, which is to make sure that the joint registry can be appropriately funded in a way that recognises the contributions that small and large companies are making, and, by removing that cap, ensuring the levy is allocated proportionate to the value of the volume of devices supplied by medical device companies, which makes it fairer, which supports the sustainability of this particular registry.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I've got a copy of the amendment moved by the member for Kooyong; I'm happy to raise that with the minister and continue discussions. I thank all members for their contributions on this bill.</span>
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                    <a href="265980" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Sharkie</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  The original question was that this bill be now read a second time. To this, the honourable member for Lindsay has moved as an amendment that all words after 'That' be omitted, with a view to substituting other words. The honourable member for Kooyong has moved, as an amendment to that amendment, that all words after 'reading' be omitted, with a view to substituting other words. The immediate question is that the amendment moved by the honourable member for Kooyong be agreed to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question unresolved.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  As it is necessary to resolve this question to enable further questions to be considered in relation to this bill, in accordance with standing order 195 the bill will be returned to the House for further consideration.</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Sharkie, Rebekha MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
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                  <electorate>Mayo</electorate>
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          <title>Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026</title>
          <page.no>107</page.no>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>107</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">The DEPUTY SPEAKER (Ms Sharkie</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">):</span>  I understand the member for Pearce would like to present a copy of their speech for incorporation into the <span style="font-style:italic;">Hansard</span>, in accordance with the resolution agreed to on 6 November 2025.</span>
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                <page.no>107</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Roberts, Tracey MP</name>
                <name.id>157125</name.id>
                <electorate>Pearce</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms ROBERTS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Pearce</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:13</span>):  <span style="font-style:italic;">The incorporated speech read as follows</span>—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I speak in support of the Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026. Australians have a very special relationship with sport. It is part of who we are. It brings communities together, creates lifelong friendships, teaches our children resilience and teamwork, and gives Australians moments of shared pride. That is certainly true in my electorate of Pearce.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Across our rapidly growing northern suburbs, sport is woven into the fabric of our community. On any given weekend, thousands of local families are travelling to football grounds, cricket pitches, netball courts, swimming pools and recreation centres. Parents are getting children out the door early in the morning. Coaches are setting up equipment. Volunteers are running canteens, organising teams and doing the work that keeps community sport alive. And among those young people pulling on their club colours in Pearce today may well be the Olympians, Paralympians and international representatives of tomorrow. That pathway—from junior sport, to local competition, to state and national representation and perhaps, ultimately, to the world stage—is something Australia should continue to nurture and protect. That protection includes ensuring that, wherever an Australian athlete competes, they can have confidence that the competition is fair. It means knowing that the person standing beside them at the starting line, across the net or on the other side of the field is subject to the same rules. It means knowing that performance is determined by talent, preparation, discipline and hard work, not by prohibited substances or attempts to circumvent the rules.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is why this legislation matters. Sporting integrity is fundamental to sport. Without integrity, records lose their meaning. Without integrity, medals lose their value. Most importantly, clean athletes can spend years training and sacrificing only to be denied an opportunity by someone who has chosen to cheat. Australians rightly expect better than that.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia has a proud history when it comes to protecting clean sport. We established the Australian Sports Drug Agency in 1990, nearly a decade before the World Anti-Doping Agency was formed. Since then, Australia has continued to play an important role internationally in the development of antidoping policy and in building systems designed to protect athletes and maintain confidence in sporting competition. Today, Sport Integrity Australia carries much of that responsibility nationally.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Modern sporting integrity involves far more than testing athletes. It involves education, intelligence, investigations, therapeutic use exemptions, safeguarding and responding to emerging threats. And those threats continue to evolve. We have seen internationally how sophisticated doping programs can become. They can extend beyond the actions of an individual athlete and involve coaches, support personnel, administrators and, in the most serious cases, attempts to manipulate testing and undermine the institutions designed to guarantee fair competition. That is why strong and independent institutions are so important.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It is also why our antidoping framework cannot remain static. The methods used to detect doping change. Medical science changes. Technology changes. The substances available change. Our laws and regulatory systems therefore need to evolve with them. That is the purpose of the revised World Anti-Doping Code, which will take effect from 1 January 2027. The code establishes a common international framework so athletes competing across different countries and different sports operate under consistent antidoping rules. Australia has been closely involved in developing the revised code, with Sport Integrity Australia consulting athletes, sporting organisations, the Australian Sports Commission, the National Sports Tribunal, medical experts and other stakeholders. This legislation forms an important part of ensuring Australia is ready when the new code commences.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are four significant areas addressed by this bill. The first concerns therapeutic use exemptions and, importantly, an athlete's right to seek an independent review of a decision. Antidoping systems must be rigorous enough to identify and punish deliberate doping. But they must also recognise that athletes get sick, suffer injuries and may require legitimate medication or treatment involving a substance that would ordinarily be prohibited. That is why therapeutic use exemptions exist. Under these reforms, an athlete refused a therapeutic use exemption by the Australian Sports Drug Medical Advisory Committee will be able to seek independent review through the National Sports Tribunal. That provides an independent national pathway and is an important improvement. A strong antidoping regime should never mean abandoning procedural fairness. Athletes must be held accountable when they break the rules, but they must also be able to trust the institutions administering those rules.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The second significant reform strengthens the operational independence of Australia's antidoping arrangements. Responsibility for imposing certain antidoping consequences will move away from individual sporting organisations and instead sit with Sport Integrity Australia. That is an important principle. Sporting organisations have an understandable interest in their athletes and competitions. They develop their sport, promote it, attract participants and sponsors, and support their representatives. There can therefore be circumstances where asking a sporting organisation to make decisions about sanctions involving its own athletes creates a real or perceived conflict of interest. The new arrangements provide clearer separation. Under the new arrangements, the Sport Integrity Australia CEO will take responsibility for imposing provisional suspensions and sanctions under Australia's national antidoping framework, rather than leaving those decisions to individual sporting organisations. That provides consistency, independence and greater public confidence. For communities like Pearce, where children and young adults are progressing through increasingly competitive sporting pathways, confidence in those systems matters. Young athletes should grow up understanding that the rules apply consistently, whether they are competing at a suburban sporting ground or representing Australia internationally.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The third area addressed by this legislation concerns the publication of information about antidoping violations. Transparency is an important component of sporting integrity. Where an antidoping violation has occurred, there can be a legitimate public interest in knowing what happened and what consequence followed. But transparency must also be balanced against privacy, fairness and the circumstances of the individual. That is particularly important where children, protected persons or recreational athletes are concerned. The revised arrangements provide greater scope to consider whether publication is appropriate and better recognise situations in which a person has not been found to have committed an offence or was not at fault. This is a sensible balance. We should be tough on deliberate doping, but our laws should also recognise proportionality. A child, vulnerable participant or recreational athlete should not automatically be treated in exactly the same manner as an elite athlete who knowingly participates in a sophisticated doping program.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The fourth reform updates the definition of an athlete under the Sport Integrity Australia Act. The existing arrangements can continue to classify somebody as an athlete for six months after they last competed. This bill removes that automatic domestic rule and brings Australia's definition into closer alignment with the international antidoping framework. It may appear to be a technical amendment, but consistency matters in a global system. Athletes compete internationally, sporting bodies work across jurisdictions and antidoping organisations operate within common international standards.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These reforms are also taking place at an extraordinary time for Australian sport. Our athletes continue to deliver remarkable performances internationally, and the next decade will place Australia at the centre of world sport. We are moving towards the Los Angeles Olympic and Paralympic Games in 2028 and, of course, the Brisbane Olympic and Paralympic Games in 2032. Those events will inspire another generation of young Australians. I think about what that opportunity means in Pearce. We are one of the largest and fastest-growing parts of Western Australia, with young families establishing their lives across communities including Alkimos, Butler, Yanchep, Eglinton and Wanneroo. We need the infrastructure to give those families opportunities to participate in sport.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is why projects such as the new Alkimos Aquatic and Recreation Centre are so important. The Australian government has committed significant funding of $30 million towards the facility because our northern suburbs deserve high-quality aquatic and recreation infrastructure closer to home. The centre will create opportunities for swimming, fitness, indoor sport and recreation, and will support local schools, sporting clubs and families. Across Pearce, facilities such as Halesworth Park demonstrate what quality community sporting infrastructure can mean for growing communities. These projects might seem removed from international antidoping legislation, but they are all part of the same sporting ecosystem. The child learning to swim in a community pool may become an elite swimmer. The young cricketer training after school may progress through representative cricket. The girl joining a local football or netball team may one day pull on Australian colours. Every one of those young athletes should grow up in a sporting culture that tells them clearly that success comes from preparation, hard work, perseverance and talent. There are no acceptable shortcuts. That culture begins at grassroots level and must extend all the way to our national sporting institutions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese Labor government is therefore investing across the sporting pathway. We are supporting community participation. We are investing in women's and girls' sport. We are supporting high-performance athletes. And we are strengthening the integrity architecture that sits behind it all. In the 2026-27 budget, the government committed a further $20.1 million to Sport Integrity Australia to continue safeguarding the integrity of Australian sport. That investment and this legislation send the same message: Australian sporting success must be clean sporting success. The great moments in Australian sport matter precisely because we believe in them.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When an Australian touches the wall first, crosses the finish line or stands on a podium with a medal around their neck, Australians should be able to celebrate without wondering whether the competition was legitimate. The athlete standing second or fourth should also know that they were given a genuine opportunity to compete fairly. The consequences of doping do not fall only upon the athlete who breaks the rules; they fall upon the clean competitor who misses a final, the person who finishes fourth and misses a medal, the athlete who misses selection, the family that has supported years of training and the supporters who put their faith in the integrity of the competition. Once an opportunity has been taken from an athlete, awarding a medal years later cannot fully restore what was lost. That is why prevention, detection, independence and strong governance are so important.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As we look towards Brisbane 2032, Australia has an opportunity not simply to host an outstanding Olympic and Paralympic Games but to demonstrate what we believe sport should represent—competition, excellence, respect, integrity and, above all, a fair go. Those values are just as visible on a Saturday morning sporting field in Pearce as they are in an Olympic stadium. We owe it to the volunteers running our local clubs, to the parents supporting their children, to our emerging athletes and to those already representing our country to protect those values.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026 strengthens that protection. It provides athletes with stronger review rights. It strengthens independent decision-making. It provides a more balanced approach to publication and privacy. It ensures Australia's legislation remains aligned with the international antidoping system that underpins fair competition around the world. Australia has long been a leader in protecting the integrity of sport. This bill ensures that we remain one. For the sporting clubs and families of Pearce, for Australian athletes competing today and for the young Australians dreaming of representing their country tomorrow, we should continue to insist upon a simple principle: if you compete, you compete fairly. Our athletes deserve nothing less. Our sporting community expects nothing less. I commend the bill to the House.</span>
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                <page.no>110</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Violi, Aaron MP</name>
                <name.id>300147</name.id>
                <electorate>Casey</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr VIOLI</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Casey</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:14</span>):  The Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026 is important legislation because sport is at the heart of all our communities. We all look up to our national athletes, whether it was the Socceroos that did so well at the World Cup or the Matildas that have represented us with such pride. I know, growing up, Cathy Freeman winning gold at the 2000 Olympics was a key memory. I remember cheering her on as she won that medal. Those national conversations are important. Our club sports, like AFL, are part of WADA, so I have to take the opportunity to talk about the 2023 Collingwood premiership. That was an important memory for me that I enjoyed. The AFL do make sure that they follow the WADA code, because we need to know that when we play sport the athletes are clean and everyone that does the work has an equal chance for success.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The reason we need to make sure that the sports are clean is that what happens at a national level, at an AFL level or at an NRL level, flows down to our young people and to our communities. Community sport has been a huge part of my journey to this place—I spoke about the Healesville Cricket Club and the Mooroolbark Soccer Club in my first speech—and it is a huge part of so many communities in the seat of Casey. Sporting clubs are not just about winning and losing, and it's not just about the facilities; it's about the people that are involved in making those clubs tick. That's why I played. That's why so many people play—because of the people you meet, the friendships you make and the bonds that last a lifetime, knowing that, if you're in trouble, they'll come and help you, and, if they're in trouble, you will help them.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to take this moment, as we talk about sport, to pay tribute to Paul 'Dorz' Dorian, a great friend of mine who we tragically lost two weeks ago to cancer, at 47. Dorz and I played together at the Mount Lilydale Old Collegians. We then transferred to the new Lilydale Montrose United Football Club. Dorz also was the president of the club and coached many teams, including my daughter's team. He was the founder and the driving force behind the St Marys soccer team, which was a futsal team playing indoor soccer in Mount Evelyn. He put in time and effort so that many young people could learn the beautiful game of soccer and futsal. He made sure that they got to experience the joy of winning, that they understood the pain of defeat, but that defeat was just a lesson to grow.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Paul had a personality that, as someone said at his celebration last Friday, made you feel seen. When you were with Paul Dorian it felt like you were the most important person in the world. The reason that Paul was able to make you feel like the most important person in the world is that, in that moment when he spoke to you, you were the most important person in the world. He was present. He was engaged. He had a smile and a personality that lit up the room. He gave so much back to the sporting community, whether it was his time playing at the Mooroolbark Soccer Club, his time at the Lilydale Montrose United Football Club or his time at the Mount Lilydale Old Collegians. He was the best of the best. He represents everything that I love about community sport. There are so many Paul Dorians throughout the country, and that's why we love sport.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We had a celebration last Friday. There were over two hours of stories about Paul, many that left my 11-year-old daughter with some questions about what they meant—luckily they went over her head—and many that are not parliamentary, but it was a tribute to a great man. The hall was overflowing with soccer jerseys and colour to celebrate Paul. His wife, Ilona, spoke so well about the love of her life—the man she met in high school, the man that had had such a profound impact on her life, and how much he meant to her. His children Josh and Emily spoke so well about their dad. His son Sam, who's the same age as my daughter, 11, and goes to school with her, didn't speak, but he represented the family, with courage, so well. Josh performed some musical tributes, because Paul was one of those annoying people who was really good at a lot of things. He was a gun at soccer and then, when he picked up a guitar, he was a natural at that. Josh, his son, definitely got the musical gene from his family. They represented their family so well, but we know that grief and pain do not just disappear. While the celebration was on Friday, we gathered on Sunday for the inaugural Dorz Memorial Cup. The Lilydale Montrose United community rallied at the Keith Hume Fraser Reserve as 20 or 30 teams, hundreds of people, played soccer to pay tribute to Paul Dorian. The weather was beautiful, which was all we could have asked for.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to finish by saying to Ilona and the family: we love you, we're with you, we've been with you through this journey of over five years and we will continue to be with you to support you, as we know there are unfortunately tough times ahead. I want to put on the record, on the <span style="font-style:italic;">Hansard</span>, the greatness that was and is Paul 'Dorz' Dorian. May he rest in peace.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Community sport is so important. It is about people. People make a difference to all community sports, but infrastructure makes a difference as well. Having really modern, fresh infrastructure is important for our communities. We have seen—and my daughter is a perfect example of this—an explosion of young women, girls and older women in veterans teams playing sport and getting the opportunity to make sure that they can compete and learn all the valuable lessons from sport. That's why we have seen this growth in numbers, but we haven't seen infrastructure keep up.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I was proud as the candidate in 2022 and as the member of parliament in 2025 to make commitments to upgrade the Mooroolbark Heights Reserve and make sure they get the facilities that they need and they deserve. While I was lucky enough to win my seat, unfortunately we weren't able to form government, so we could not deliver on those facilities. But a Jess Wilson led Victorian government working with David Hodgett, the current member, and Toby Wooldridge—the Liberal candidate for Croydon—understand and know how important those facilities are.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That's why I was really excited and proud that they announced $6.5 million to upgrade the reserve to make sure that the Mooroolbark Football Club, the Mooroolbark Junior Football Club and the Mooroolbark Cricket Club could get the funding that they need to upgrade those facilities. Well done to Jess Wilson and the team. There are only a few more weeks to go until the 28 November election. We will be watching with interest, and hopefully the Mooroolbark community can get those facilities that they deserve. People and infrastructure matter when it comes to local sport.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">How we legislate that so people have confidence in our athletes matters as well. This legislation is important because every six years we update the WADA code. We make sure that it is fit for purpose and that our athletes competing at the cutting edge and those wanting to become cutting edge adhere to standards across Australia and across the country. This legislation will update that to make sure that the WADA code is implemented in Australia. It is supported by the coalition because it is an important piece of legislation. Australia is a great sporting nation, and we need to ensure that we continue to keep integrity in sport so those young people, when they watch their athletes, don't have to be disappointed in the future to find out that they weren't competing at their best.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Sport has been a huge part of my life. It's a huge part of the Casey community. It's a huge part of the Australian story. I'm glad that I can be here to support this legislation and make sure that we keep integrity in sport in Australia and also across the globe.</span>
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                <page.no>111</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Cook, Kara MP</name>
                <name.id>316537</name.id>
                <electorate>Bonner</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms KARA COOK</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bonner</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:24</span>):  In my electorate of Bonner, sport is such a huge part of the social fabric of our community. Every weekend, across the electorate, thousands of families, players, coaches and volunteers come together through grassroots sport. From the Wynnum Manly Seagulls to the Mt Gravatt Vultures, our community has a proud and diverse sporting culture. We have sailing on Moreton Bay, swimming at Chandler, netball, tennis, hockey, cricket, cycling, gymnastics and countless other sports being played by people of all ages and all abilities together. These clubs are so much more than places just to compete. They are where children build confidence, where friendships are formed, where volunteers dedicate countless hours and where Australians learn the importance of teamwork, discipline and respect. As a mum with kids involved in indoor soccer as well as netball and swimming, I know firsthand how much these experiences matter. I know sometimes for parents there are early mornings, weekend competitions and training. We see extraordinary commitment from parents and carers after school, before school and, of course, on weekends. These are also the people who are keeping our local clubs running through countless hours of volunteering and coaching.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I also know how much children learn from being part of a team, but perhaps one of the most important lessons they learn is that everyone deserves a fair go, that the rules matter and that success should come from hard work, talent and determination, not from someone gaining an unfair advantage. Those principles are just as important on a suburban sporting field in Bonner as they are on the world's biggest stage. With the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games now just six years away, that connection between grassroots sport and international sporting excellence has never felt closer to home. For some of the young athletes currently training in our local clubs, the journey that begins on a sporting field in Bonner may one day lead to representing Australia at the Olympics or Paralympics. When that moment comes, they deserve to know that their hard work, sacrifices and achievements will be protected, that the competition will be fair, that the rules will be applied equally and that the systems governing their sports are independent, transparent and accountable.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is exactly what the Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026 is all about—protecting the integrity of Australian sport, strengthening the rights of athletes and ensuring that Australia continues to meet the highest international anti-doping standards. Australia has a proud history of leadership when it comes to clean, fair and safe sport. In fact, our commitment to tackling doping began long before the international frameworks recognised today were established. In 1990, Australia established the Australian Sports Drug Agency to combat and control the use of prohibited substances in Australian sport. We became a signatory to the UNESCO International Convention against Doping in Sport in 2005, and Australia has maintained compliance with the World Anti-Doping Code since it commenced in 2004.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Today, Australia continues to contribute directly to international anti-doping governance, including through representation on the World Anti-Doping Agency Executive Committee. Nationally, Sport Integrity Australia delivers a comprehensive anti-doping program, and its work extends well beyond drug testing. It includes education, prevention, intelligence gathering, investigations and the management of potential anti-doping rule violations. Protecting the integrity of sport requires more than identifying wrongdoing after it occurs. It requires a system that actively prevents misconduct, supports athletes to understand their obligations and ensures that, when breaches do occur, they are dealt with fairly and consistently.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We know from international experience just how damaging doping can be. Investigations into Russian sport exposed systemic doping practices, the manipulation of samples and interference with anti-doping practices. These were not simply isolated incidents involving individual athletes. They demonstrated how organised misconduct can undermine entire sporting systems and erode public confidence in international competition. Similarly, the investigation known as Operación Puerto exposed sophisticated doping networks involving medical and support personnel operating across sporting disciplines and national borders.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These examples remind us that doping is not always an individual issue. It can involve complex networks, institutional failures and deliberate attempts to undermine fair competition. When that happens, the greatest victims are often the athletes who have done everything right. Imagine training for years to represent your country and then imagine discovering that you missed out on a final medal or a place on the podium because someone else cheated. That is an injustice that cannot always be repaired. A medal might be reassigned years later, but the moment is gone. That is why strong antidoping laws are not just about catching those who break the rules; they're also about protecting those who follow them.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The World Anti-Doping Code provides a globally harmonised framework, ensuring athletes and sporting organisations are subject to consistent antidoping principles wherever they compete. We cannot have one set of standards applying in Australia and an entirely different standard applying when athletes compete overseas. As sport evolves, the rules must evolve with it. Doping methods change, technology and detection capabilities advance, medical practices develop, and our understanding of athletes' rights, privacy and procedural fairness continues to improve. Following an extensive two-year international consultation process, a revised World Anti-Doping Code was approved in December 2025. The revised code will commence on 1 January 2027. Australia participated throughout that review process and consulted with domestic stakeholders, including athletes, national sporting organisations, disability sporting organisations, medical experts and antidoping authorities. The revised code strengthens the independence of antidoping organisations, improves athletes' appeal rights and introduces more appropriate protections around the public discourse of antidoping violations.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill before the House makes targeted amendments to the Sport Integrity Australia Act 2020 and the National Sports Tribunal Act 2019 to give effect to these important reforms, and I want to focus on four changes. First, we are strengthening athletes' rights. Under Australia's antidoping framework, there are circumstances where an athlete may have a legitimate medical need to use a substance or treatment that would otherwise be prohibited. These circumstances are managed through what is known as therapeutic-use exemptions. Currently, an athlete whose application is refused may seek review through a panel within the Australian Sports Drugs Medical Advisory Committee's statutory structure. Under this legislation, eligible refusals will instead be reviewed by a national sports tribunal. This is a really important change. It separates the original decision-maker from the body responsible for reviewing that decision. It gives athletes access to an independent specialist appeal pathway, and it strengthens confidence that decisions affecting their health and sporting careers will be made fairly.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Second, we are strengthening the independence of antidoping decisions. Currently, sporting organisations are responsible for imposing certain suspensions and consequences following antidoping processes. This legislation transfers responsibility for imposing relevant provisional suspensions and agreed consequences to Sport Integrity Australia. Sporting organisations will remain responsible for implementing those decisions within their sport. That distinction matters because sporting organisations can face competing pressures. They want their athletes to succeed. They want their teams to perform. They want their competitions to attract audiences, sponsors and support. But decisions about potential doping violations must be independent of those interests. The integrity of the system cannot depend on whether an athlete is famous, whether a team is successful or whether a decision might be commercially inconvenient. The rules must apply equally, whether someone is a household name or an athlete competing internationally for the very first time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Third, we are strengthening privacy provisions. Antidoping allegations can have serious consequences for a person's reputation, livelihood and of course their mental health. While transparency is essential, it must be balanced with appropriate safeguards. This bill introduces stronger protections around the publication of antidoping violations. It requires particular consideration of the circumstances of minors, recreational athletes and people who may lack the capacity to understand the rules. It also strengthens protections where a person is found to have committed a violation with no fault or negligence. These safeguards matter because a fairer system must do more than identify wrongdoing; it must recognise individual circumstances, provide adequate avenues for review and avoid unnecessary harm. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, we are modernising Australia's antidoping laws by updating our legislation to align with international definitions and technical standards. We are ensuring Australia remains consistent with the rules governing sport right around the world. These reforms are about something much bigger than compliance. They're about ensuring every Australian athlete can compete with confidence, knowing the rules are fair, their rights are protected and their achievements are recognised. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In Bonner we are incredibly proud of the sporting talent that has emerged from our community—athletes like swimmer Amelia Weber, steeplechaser Cara, Paralympian Hani Watson, and artistic gymnasts Georgia Godwin and James Hardy. I do want to give a special shout-out to James. I've previously acknowledged in this place Amelia, Cara and Georgia. James is an artistic gymnast who competed in Glasgow recently, and he is from Burbank in my electorate of Bonner. He is a proud Mansfield State High School graduate who came home with not one, not two, but three bronze medals—rings, floor and the team event. He also finished fifth on the vault. I want to say a big congratulations to James; we are so very proud of you. Of course, we are proud of all of our remarkable athletes, whose achievements and determination are an inspiration to young people right across our electorates and right across our country.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But, before an athlete stands on an Olympic or Paralympic podium, they must compete at a world championship, and, before they represent Australia, their journey begins at a local sporting club, and it begins with our volunteers, a supportive family and a community willing to invest in their potential. That is why the values that we protect at the highest levels of international sport matter just as much as at a grassroots level. Fairness, integrity and respect should be fundamental to every sporting experience. When we strengthen the systems and processes that protect clean sport, we are also reinforcing those values for the next generation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For Queenslanders, particularly those of us in South-East Queensland, the countdown to the Brisbane 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games is incredibly exciting. In just six years, Australia will again welcome the world's greatest athletes to compete on our shores, and Bonner won't just be watching the games; we're helping host them. The Albanese Labor government has committed approximately $3.4 billion towards games infrastructure, including upgrades to major sporting facilities in my electorate. At the Sleeman Sports Complex in Chandler, upgrades will improve accessibility and integration right across the precinct. The Brisbane Aquatic Centre will be refurbished ahead of hosting preliminary water polo matches. The Anna Meares Velodrome and the Chandler BMX track will receive upgrades for Olympic cycling events. The Brisbane International Shooting Centre at Belmont will also be improved to host shooting events, with temporary seating planned for up to 2,000 spectators. Importantly, the planned Chandler para-sport facility will create more opportunities for people with disability to participate in sport, while supporting pathways for future Paralympians. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These investments are not just about delivering a successful Olympic and Paralympic Games. They are about leaving a lasting legacy for families, sporting clubs and athletes right across Bonner. For me, that is exactly what a successful Olympic legacy looks like, and I commend this legislation to the chamber. </span>
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                <page.no>113</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Ambihaipahar, Ash MP</name>
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                <electorate>Barton</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms AMBIHAIPAHAR</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Barton</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:39</span>):  I rise to speak on the Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026. Some moments get etched into a nation's memory, and, for so many Australians, one of them happened on a warm Sydney night in 2000 when Cathy Freeman stepped onto the track of the stadium at Olympic Park. There were thousands of people in that stadium and what felt like the entire country holding its breath at home. I think many in this chamber can probably remember where they were standing that night, who they were squashed on the couch with and the sound that rose when she crossed the line. That was the Sydney Olympics, and they were the games that I think made us feel, all at once, that we could welcome the world and do it with a grin. What I remember most is not only the gold but also the trust. We watched believing that what we were seeing was fair and that the person who won that night was the person who earnt it. That is what this bill is about.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the electorate of Barton, sport not only happens on television; it happens on Saturday mornings. It is in the whistle blown at Arncliffe Park and in the chilly sideline coffee. It is in the netballers of the St George District Netball Association, putting on their bibs in Rockdale. It's in the b-ball players from St George basketball team, warming up at the stadium at Hurstville Aquatic Leisure Centre. It is in the St George Illawarra Dragons, whose heartland runs right through Kogarah and every kid in a Dragons jersey who is sure they will be the next one to run out at Jubilee Stadium. It is in the soccer families of Rockdale Ilinden who give up their weekends to the game and training. It is in the community who shows up at Hurstville Oval to support the St George District Cricket Club regardless of the weather. That is what we do in Barton and, I think, across the country. I also want to give a quick shout-out to Football St George, to its committee members and to the teams that have made the grand final in the Champion of Champions competition, which include the Banksia Tigers under-15s, the Minotaurs under-13s, the Ilinden under-16s, the Dolls Point over-35s, the Minotaurs under-45s and Arncliffe Aurora.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When you walk those fields and courts, you will meet modern Australia right there. You'll hear Greeks. You'll hear Macedonians. You'll hear Cantonese, Mandarin, Nepali and even Arabic, all shouted with equal passion from the sidelines. You'll see parents who finished a night shift and came straight to the game. You'll see grandparents as well. They may never have quite understood the offside rule, but they are cheering anyway. And, somewhere on those sidelines, I guarantee you there'll be a kid from Kingsgrove or Bexley or Carlton who's really quietly doing the maths on a dream. Maybe it's Los Angeles 2028. Maybe it's Brisbane 2032. That kid is not asking for special treatment; they are asking for one thing: a fair go. They want to know that the contest is clean, the rules are the same for everyone and the system protecting them is independent and trustworthy.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Before I came into this place, I spent about a decade working as an employment and industrial relations lawyer, standing up in the Fair Work Commission and also the Federal Circuit Court, representing workers and representing businesses as well. What I learnt is that people can accept almost any outcome if they believe the process was fair. They cannot accept a process where the person who makes the decisions is also a person with a stake in the results of those decision. Hold onto that thought and let it sit with you, but that is at the core of this bill.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia has long been proud to be a leader in clean sport. We established the Australian Sports Drug Agency in 1990, before the World Anti-Doping Agency existed and before the World Anti-Doping Code was actually written. We became a signatory to the UNESCO antidoping convention in 2005, and we have been compliant with the code since it began on 1 January 2004. Today we have a seat at the table, with Australia serving as the Oceania representative on the WADA Executive Committee, and Sport Integrity Australia delivers a national program that covers education, testing, intelligence and investigations.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This matters because cheating does not care about borders. International investigations into Russian sports found institutional involvement in doping, including the manipulation of samples and interference with the antidoping process. It has been demonstrated to us that sophisticated doping networks can involve medical and sport personnel operating across different sports and different countries. The athletes who pay the price are the clean ones—the ones who trained harder, went to sleep earlier and said no. No one country and no one sport can deal with that alone. That is why the code is reviewed and strengthened every six years—2009, 2015 and 2021—and why a revised code will commence on 1 January 2027. It was developed through a two-year global review in which governments, athletes, anti-doping organisations and sporting bodies all had their say. Australia was at the table at every stage and we consulted athletes, the National Sports Tribunal, the Australian Sports Drug Medical Advisory Committee, the Australian Sports Commission and our national sporting organisations along the way.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill is how Australia gets ready. It makes targeted changes to the Sport Integrity Australia Act 2020 and the National Sports Tribunal Act 2019. I want to take the House through four of them. Firstly, the bill strengthens athletes' appeal rights on therapeutic-use exemptions. Sometimes an athlete has a legitimate medical need for a substance that would otherwise be prohibited. Think of an athlete managing a serious illness who is entitled to treatment like anyone else. In Australia, the Australian Sports Drug Medical Advisory Committee decides on those applications. Right now, if an application is refused, the review happens within the committee's own statutory structure. This bill sends eligible refusals to the National Sports Tribunal instead. The committee keeps making the original decision, but an independent specialist body reviews it. As a lawyer, that makes me nod. The original decision-maker should never be the final word on its own decisions.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Secondly, the bill reinforces the independence of the system itself. At the moment, Sport Integrity Australia investigates and asserts a potential violation, but it is the sporting organisations that imposes the provisional suspension and the consequences. The 2027 code says that an anti-doping organisation must not hand parts of that process to a national sporting body. So this bill moves responsibility for imposing provisional suspensions and agreed consequences to Sports Integrity Australia, while sporting organisations remain responsible for putting those decisions into effect within their sport. It removes a potential conflict of interest and it protects the athlete, the sport and the public's confidence in the outcome.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Thirdly, the bill gets the balance right on publication. Sport Integrity Australia keeps a public violation list, and transparency matters. But we are also talking about real people and sometimes very young ones. The bill introduces stronger privacy protections where a person establishes no fault or negligence. For minors, for people who lack the capacity to understand the rules and for recreational athletes, the CEO must weigh the person's best interests alongside the public interest before deciding whether to publish it. A young person should not really carry a reputational cost for life because of a decision made in a moment of confusion or maybe even poor judgement or advice. That is proportionate and it is fair.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Fourthly, the bill modernises the definition of an athlete. It removes a domestic provision that treated a person as an athlete for six months after they last competed, a rule that is not part of the international definition and not required by the code. It also recognises WADA's technical letters, as well as technical documents, within the definition of international standards. These are sensible changes that keep our laws in step with the world's.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The detailed rules will follow through amendments to the Sport Integrity Australia regulations, including the national anti-doping scheme, and through the 2027 Australian national anti-doping policy adopted by the national sporting organisations. Together, these instruments make up the full Australian framework we need in place by 1 January 2027.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Compliance with the 2027 code is required for Australia to actually take part in world championships and other international federation competitions run under code-compliant rules. It's required for Australia to host major sporting events, such as the 2027 Australian Open, the Santos Tour Down Under and the Big Bash League. If we miss these deadlines, we'll put at risk the events that fill our stadiums, our hotels and our local economies.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government is backing this with real investment. The 2026-27 budget provides $20.1 million to continue Sport Integrity Australia's role as our national anti-doping organisation and the coordinating agency for integrity in Australian sport. There is a further $8.5 million to keep the Australian Sport Drug Testing Laboratory operating as a primary WADA accredited facility. That builds on that $36.3 million announced in January 2024 to tackle abuse, bullying, racism, discrimination and sexual misconduct in sport. And there is a further $37 million in operating funding over the two years from 1 July 2024. Integrity in sport means more than catching cheats; it means making sure every child who walks onto a field is safe and very much respected.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We are backing our athletes. The 2026-27 budget delivers a record $406 million investment in sport, including $307.4 million over two years for high performance. That includes $207.8 million—and this is important—in grants and national sporting organisations, $58 million to lift Paralympic sport and address the barriers its athletes face, $18.6 million for direct athlete support and $23 million for the Women Leaders in Sport program and the delivery of grants. This is how we prepare for Los Angeles 2028 and Brisbane 2032.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I was about 12 or 13 years old when we had the Sydney Olympics. Reflecting on that, we'll have the Olympics in Brisbane in 2032. It feels like a bookend. In the first, a generation of Australians learnt what it felt like to believe in something together. In the second, in 2032, a new generation will get its turn. Between them, I believe it's our job to protect the thing that made the first one so special—the belief that the contest was real and the win was earnt. Here's my hope: some night in 2032, a kid who grew up kicking a ball in Arncliffe Park or shooting hoops with St George Basketball in Hurstville will step onto the biggest stage in the world. Somewhere in Barton, a whole street will be crammed together around a television, shouting at a screen, and everyone in that room, from the kids to the grandparents, will know in their hearts that that particular game was fair. That is what this bill is about.</span>
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                <page.no>115</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Smith, Matt MP</name>
                <name.id>312393</name.id>
                <electorate>Leichhardt</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr MATT SMITH</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Leichhardt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">18:52</span>):  I rise to speak on the Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026. I know WADA intimately. The locker room is a sacrosanct place for professional athletes. It is where we unwind after the game. It's where we talk about the things that happened. It's where we have it out with each other because something went wrong. It's where we celebrate our wins. You walk in after the game, and there's somebody in there who doesn't belong. They've got a black polo on and their lanyard—it's WADA. They take you to the room and they hand you the cup, and they spend a bit of time with you until you fill said cup. If you cannot fill said cup, as happened to a few of my teammates over the years, you've picked up a friend for the evening; they will follow you until the absolute bitter end. Unsurprisingly, they're not always popular. If you get to a level beyond mine and become an Olympian, they can show up at your house. I had a mate who was taking the dog for a walk, and WADA showed up. They were like, 'This is what we're doing today.' They came with him for a walk with the dog and went to the pool with the kids until they got the cup.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It's inconvenient and it's kind of annoying, and we were not always as polite to them as we should have been, but they gave us the confidence that every game we played was fair. We didn't know when they were showing up. We weren't given any warning. The last time I got tested was in Ballarat, at a 'Taking it to the Streets' Cairns Taipans home game. There was no indication that they might be there; it was a nothing game in the middle of the season against Sydney that didn't matter. But there he was, ready to do his job. He put up with the attitude that he got from a whole bunch of spoilt brat athletes and the jokes that came along with it. He took his sample and he went away, and you wouldn't see or hear from him again unless you were in trouble.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">WADA did more than testing; they gave us the parameters in which we had to exist. As an athlete, you have to be incredibly careful about what you put in your body.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">You have to know where it came from and what it is. They drilled it home to us every single pre-season. They get the entire NBL together in a room, and they sit down and they go through it piece by piece by piece. 'Stay clear of pseudoephedrine,' 'Don't have too much caffeine,' 'If you are going to use supplements, make absolutely sure that they are clean,' Please don't smoke weed'—that went sideways for a few of my mates, but we knew. We knew the rules, we knew the parameters, and we knew the consequences. Most importantly, we knew the consequences.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Basketball is not a great sport for performance-enhancing drugs. It's a highly skilled sport. If I were 20 or 30 per cent stronger, it wouldn't have made a lick of difference to how good I was as a player. If I had been able to dribble better or shoot better, that might have helped. Maybe I'd have gone to the Olympics. But, for other sports, it can make a massive, massive difference. You can change the way your body moves or the amount of power that's available to you through a decent course of anabolic steroids. If you are playing a sport that requires you to slow your heart rate, be it shooting, golf or even lawn bowls, a decent set of beta blockers will fix that up for you. If you need to be quick off the blocks, pseudoephedrine is the way to go. All of these things give people an inherent advantage, and, when you're at that very top level, you're measuring things in millimetres and you're measuring things in fractions of a second, so any single advantage that you can get is worth something. The fact that these chemicals exist out there, for some, is a temptation that's too high, and you see not only people go down that path and what it does to their bodies and what it does to their reputations afterwards, but what it does to the athletes they're competing against.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Winning, getting a trophy, getting a ring or a medal or whatever is a fantastic thing, but it's the moment that matters. Crossing that finish line and having the crowd erupt matters. Making that shot matters. If you're competing against someone who is not competing clean, they can potentially take that moment from you, and that is the heartbreaking tragedy. They can give it back to you years down the track. They might disqualify things as doping testing catches up with the dopers, but you've lost the moment, and the moment is everything. I don't know where my championship rings are, but I remember the moments, and the moments are distilled into everything that you've worked for, and, for Olympians, you might only get one shot. Your peak athletic performance is measured in not a full decade—27 to maybe 32 at your absolute peak. If you're lucky, you can have two. If you're really lucky, like the member for Hunter—shooting debatable—you can have five.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">An honourable member interjecting</span>—</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr MATT SMITH:</span>
                    </a>  Look, we discuss it every day. But, if you've worked your entire life for that one moment, you want to know that that moment is fair. You want to know that the work that you've put in is equal to the work that the person next to you put in, and, if it's not and they beat you because they've worked harder, because they've got some natural abilities or because it was just their day, you can live with that. You can live with whatever outcome you're given, provided you know that it's fair and provided that you've given it your best and provided you've given it your all. The great tragedy of doping and the people who put that into our sports and the mechanisms around it—it is an industry. Let's not mistake it. Doping athletes is an industry at this point in time. They're taking those things that matter so, so much. The sacrifices that you have to make to be that good are incredible.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Speak to Stephanie Rice. I think she is a good example. She spoke about how, in her entire lead-up to the Olympics, she allowed herself, once a week, one tiny little block of chocolate just so that she could maintain that level of discipline just so she could keep her the body fat percentage where it needed to be for optimum floating. All of these things are just hammered, hammered, hammered into you. That one little chocolate was her reward, and obviously so were the three gold medals, but she earned those. She earned those fair and square. She made the sacrifices. She didn't look for shortcuts. She didn't find a mad scientist, a chemist, who could do the things that she needed to do. She went out and she did the work and she paid the price, and the people around her paid the price. You sacrifice family time, your time and physical time. There is the emotional toll of working that hard all the time, the emotional toll of not being successful, what that does to you and what that does to your immediate loved ones who are on that journey with you. Even if they're not in the water, on the pitch or running beside you, they are. They want to believe that it's clean. They want to believe that it's fair, because they're the ones who are sitting right next to you, helping you through that entire process. I do want to say one thing, though. When my career was over and I got to try Sudafed for the first time when I had a cold—amazing! It made me feel so much better. I was like, 'This stuff is great.'</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We'll get to the nitty-gritty of it all. This is an international framework. It has to be even right across the planet, particularly when we're dealing with international sports. There have been a few little strange things in there which have been Australian specific, and those are going to get ironed out to make sure that we are all on the same page. The code will be implemented in 2027 through an integrated package of primary legislation, regulation and sporting policy. The bill makes amendments to the Sporting Integrity Act 2020 and the National Sports Tribunal Act 2019. Detailed antidrug rules will be implemented through amendments to the SIA regulations, including the national antidoping scheme and through the 2027 ANADP adopted by the Australian Sports Commission, recognised by NSOs and NSODs. These instruments will provide the framework going forwards so that, when the Brisbane Olympics hit, everything will be in place.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Whenever there's a change, you've got to have those conversations, particularly with the athletes, with the bodies around it and obviously with the poor guys with the cups to make sure that everyone knows what's happening and how it's going to happen. This gives us a good run-in time. It'll let us understand the strengths and weaknesses of the system that we've put in and close up any holes that might arrive throughout it. We're strengthening the appeal rights for the therapeutic-use exemption, and this is important. I played with guys who had asthma, and they've had to fill out a whole bunch of forms for their asthma pumps. Cortisone shots are quite common throughout the year, and you need to know that people are taking these drugs to make sure that they can heal to deal with the pain. They might have a broader medical condition that requires medical intervention. People should not be punished for that. Strengthening these rules, allowing that therapeutic exemption and making it easier to actually implement is really important for athletes.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There was a case a few years back where an NFL player failed a drug test, and he failed a drug test because he was taking fertility drugs because he wanted to have a child. The exemptions at the time didn't allow for that. The NFL doesn't subscribe to WADA. It exists as its own thing. They were able to hear the appeal and allow him to continue playing, but he wasn't trying to get an advantage on the field. He wanted to be a dad, and that was an important part of him, but he shouldn't have had to give up his job for that or risk losing his job because of the drugs he had to take to become a father. That's an example of why the therapeutic exemption is going to be so important. As a member for Barton said, during this appeal process it is very important to separate the decision-maker from the review body. People don't like to be proven wrong, so it is always important to have that separation of powers. I think that's as important in WADA as it is in just about every single part of our society.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The second part is reinforcing the independence of the doping system. It needs to be a completely independent body. I think everyone knows now that sport is awash with money. The codes are becoming more and more powerful. In the United States, they split from WADA completely. The NCAA takes no part in WADA at all. Their testing is all over the place, and there are no real guidelines around it. Each school is doing their own thing. Each conference is doing their own thing. You can fail in one place and pass in another. It needs to be fair right across the board. The concept of fairness is such an integral part of sport and the Australian psyche. I think it is an important part that, when we have the Olympics in 2032, we display that fairness, that the fair go that we really pride ourselves on as part of our national identity is understood by the rest of the planet—that when you compete in Australia, you compete by the rules. If you win, you'll have won clean. If you lost, you'll have lost clean, but you'll have got there on your own merits, not the merits of a chemist in some far part of the world, not the merits of the beta-blocker that's slowing down your heart rate as you're lining up your shot, not the merits of the pseudoephedrine that gets you off the line that little bit quicker and not the merits of the steroids and peptides that you can use to give your body that extra five or 10 per cent.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Without these kinds of rules, you get the Enhanced Games, which is a joke and an insult to every single athlete who's ever played fair and is dangerous, with people encouraged to put things into their bodies that they have absolutely no idea about. It sets a terrible precedent and example to our children, who are increasingly looking up to sport. Our children need to know that we're clean. Our country needs to know that we're clean. Any athlete that feels like doping is the answer needs to know that Australia is clean and we will not stand for it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm looking forward to the 2032 Olympics. I was in the United States during the 2000 Olympics, so I didn't get to go, and then I wasn't talented enough to go to any of the other ones. So I'm very excited about having an Olympics in my home state, just down the road from Cairns. I commend this bill to the House.</span>
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                  <electorate>Leichhardt</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">Clutterham, Claire MP</name>
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                <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
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                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Sturt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:05</span>):  I rise today to speak in support of the Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026. I am a sports nut. I love netball, football, cricket, athletics and cycling. I absolutely love the Olympic Games and the Commonwealth Games. To be faster, higher and stronger—I love that everyone can strive for this, not only the elite athletes we watch on television and in stadiums but everyone. With training and effort, everyone has the opportunity to be faster, to go higher and to get stronger. The thrill in achieving a PB, in swimming faster, in lifting heavier weights, in knowing that you did this off your own steam because of your own efforts and the training you put in is immensely satisfying.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I am a former competitive swimmer, and when I watch our Australian Dolphins race, make finals and win medals in domestic and international competitions I have some understanding of the effort, sacrifice and dedication that they put in to make the team, let alone make a semifinal, make a final or win a medal. This is the hours in the gym that sprinters put in, building muscle to power them to run 100 metres in the blink of an eye. It's the hours marathon runners put in on the track, put into rest and recovery, put into the gym and put into their diet and nutrition so that every calorie they consume benefits their training regimen. These hours and dedication are incredible.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The sacrifice of professional athletes is incredible: living away from home, constantly training, constantly racing, always on the move and scraping together money in order to compete, buy equipment, train and race. Not every elite athlete earns millions in prize money and sponsorship. In fact, very few do. But, regardless of their earnings, every elite athlete knows one thing, and that is effort—training until you throw up, pushing your body to its absolute limit to see what it can do, working so hard and exerting so much effort that you can't walk after a race or can't breathe properly when you get out of the pool, get off the track or get off the bike, training through injury and pushing through pain.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">One of my good friends is a former competitive road cyclist who competed in teams in Australia, the US and Europe and enjoyed incredible success. She knows the meaning of pushing through. Alex Rhodes was on a training run in Germany in 2005 when she and her fellow cyclists were hit by a car. Alex suffered 30 spinal fractures, crushed lungs and massive internal trauma and was placed in an induced coma for eight days. Despite that, she came back to competitive cycling and played a tactical role in the women's 25-kilometre points race, helping her teammates win gold and silver in the 2006 Commonwealth Games, just one year after the accident. Alex did this under her own steam—came back, trained, pushed and strove faster, higher and stronger—and was successful. How incredible and how satisfying to have done that fairly with integrity against all the odds. Alex and I often talk about our previous sporting careers, noting, of course, that hers was an actual career. Mine was more of a splash in the pool. But we love talking about training and how we used to work hard in the pool, on the track and in the gym.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We talk about the thrill of racing and competition and how we hope our respective children and stepchildren will develop the same competitive drive that we both still have, that love of training hard, that love of feeling completely exhausted but completely satisfied that you've given everything no matter the result, that love of being able to look at yourself in the mirror and say, 'I did everything I possibly could have to win.' Alex and I have also talked about doping—the prevalence, the dangers and the sheer unfairness of it—and how it wrecks sport, how it destroys dreams and how it is the very opposite of faster, higher, stronger. It's cheating. It's wrong. It cheats the fans, the officials, the sponsors, the volunteers and the other competitors.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When I was younger, I was a Lance Armstrong fan, and who wasn't? I was in awe of his mental toughness, his anaerobic fitness and his strength—seven Tour de France titles in a row from 1999 to 2005, earning him fame and fortune. But in 2012 the US Anti-Doping Agency charged Armstrong with the use of performance enhancing drugs. Armstrong ultimately didn't contest the charges, which resulted in the loss of his Tour de France titles and a ban from the sport of cycling.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Then in October 2013 the agency released a report that declared Armstrong had been part of the most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping program that sport had ever seen, and in January of that year he admitted that he had been doping for all of his Tour de France wins. He was a cheat. His wins had not exclusively been his own effort, him pushing his body to its absolute maximum off his own steam. He had achieved his version of faster, higher, stronger by cheating on an enormous scale. His ego meant he cheated and wrecked the Tour de France for a lot of people for a long time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In Australia, we don't accept this. Australia has been and must continue to be a world leader in sport integrity and in favour always of supporting clean, fair and safe sport. We kicked this off in this country in 1990, when we established the Australian Sports Drug Agency to combat the use of prohibited drugs in Australian sport. This was nine years before the formation of the World Anti-Doping Agency. We did this because we wanted to ensure that when Australians play sport the contest is fair and when Australians watch sport they can trust the result. In 2003, nine years after we established the Australian Sports Drug Agency, the World Anti-Doping Code was first adopted, taking effect in 2004.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It has been amended five times as part of its standard review process, and the revised 2027 World Anti-Doping Code will be effective as of 1 January 2027. It is right that the code is regularly reviewed to make sure it's contemporary and strong so it provides workable and harmonised global anti-doping policies. It provides the framework that allows athletes to compete under the same core anti-doping rules wherever they are in the world. As the agency responsible for combating doping in sport in Australia, Sport Integrity Australia led Australia's participation in the review process, and it's now working with sports stakeholders to ensure we implement the 2027 code ahead of 1 January next year. This will be achieved through an integrated package of amendments to primary legislation, regulations and the Australian National Anti-Doping Policy.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill delivers the required legislative changes through specific amendments to the Sport Integrity Australia Act 2020 and the National Sports Tribunal Act 2019, which is the antidoping legislation that gives effect to Australia's international obligations under the UNESCO International Convention against Doping in Sport. The convention requires states parties to implement arrangements that are consistent with the principles of that code. To ensure the continued operation of a globally harmonised antidoping framework, international sporting federations and governments are now required to amend their own antidoping frameworks to align with the revised code and standards. As a signatory to that convention, Australia is also required to align its antidoping arrangements with the principles in the code.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill amends the Sport Integrity Australia Act to implement three code revisions. Firstly, it will allow athletes to seek review by the National Sports Tribunal, as Australia's national level appeal body of decisions, to deny a therapeutic use exemption. Secondly, it will alter the process by which mandatory and voluntary provisional sanctions such as provisional suspensions are implemented to meet the new operational independence requirements imposed on Sport Integrity Australia by the code. Thirdly, it will make changes to the mandatory publication on Sport Integrity Australia's violations list in certain limited circumstances.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">With respect to human rights, this bill engages with article 14(1) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, which provides that all persons are entitled to a fair and public hearing before a competent, independent and impartial tribunal established by law. With respect to the therapeutic use exemption, the bill establishes a pathway for athletes to seek independent review in the National Sports Tribunal of any decision to deny an exemption. By transferring review of these decisions to Australia's national level appeal body for antidoping matters, this amendment promotes the right to a fair hearing by strengthening the independence and accountability of decisions affecting athletes' rights and interests, and gives effect to the appeal requirements of the 2027 code.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The operational independence aspect of the bill also engages with article 14(1) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. This amendment promotes the effective and independent administration of Australia's antidoping framework by enhancing the operational independence of Sport Integrity Australia in accordance with the requirements of the revised code, which calls for greater operational independence in the administration of antidoping programs, reflecting concerns about potential conflicts of interest where sporting organisations are responsible for decisions affecting their own athletes.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The amendments, therefore, do not limit any recognised human right. Rather, they support the integrity, impartiality and independence of antidoping decision-making processes which underpin procedural fairness and confidence in the administration of the antidoping system. The bill is compatible with human rights because it promotes the right to a fair hearing and supports the independent, transparent and effective administration of Australia's antidoping framework.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">For decades, athletes have used performance-enhancing substances and methods to improve athletic performance and gain a competitive edge. This not only compromises athletes' health, wellbeing and reputation; it ruins sport. A robust antidoping regime is essential to protect athlete health, maintain fair competition and preserve public trust in sport.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Coming up, as well as our regular domestic sports league competitions, next year we will have athletes from all around the world compete on our shores in the 2027 Netball World Cup and 2027 Rugby World Cup. Then, in 2032, we host the Brisbane Olympic and Paralympic Games. I want to watch all this in the knowledge that the competition is clean and fair, and that 'faster, higher, stronger' has been fairly achieved. This bill, together with Australia's ratification of the Macolin Convention on the Manipulation of Sports Competitions, illustrates Australia's commitment to ensure that I, together with all Australians, will be able to do just that. I commend the bill to the Chamber.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">McCormack, Michael MP</name>
                <name.id>219646</name.id>
                <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr McCORMACK</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Riverina</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">19:19</span>):  No true sports follower likes cheats, and the Sport Legislation Amendment (World Anti-Doping Code Implementation) Bill 2026 absolutely puts Australia at the forefront of combating cheating in sport. This is a necessity. Sadly, we do have some sports men and women throughout the world who do things to their bodies, take things, to enhance their ability to win a piece of tin, to win something that they otherwise would not have gained—to cheat. This bill puts Australia's legislation in line with the revised World Anti-Doping Code and international standards, which is required in order to host international sporting events. And when it comes to hosting world events, Australia is very much at the forefront on the international stage.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The four updates in this legislation are to: (1) enhance an athlete's appeal rights for therapeutic use exemption decisions, providing an independent pathway through the National Sports Tribunal, (2) transfer responsibility for imposing consequences to Sports Integrity Australia, which was previously the sporting code body, (3) ensure that publication decisions balance the public interest with privacy safeguards—for example, a no-fault and minors, and (4) update the definition of an athlete, removing the domestic definition of post six months of last completion.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia is a signatory to the World Anti-Doping Association, or WADA, which updates its international standards every six years. The last update approved by WADA was in 2019 and was implemented by countries including Australia for 2021, when the coalition was in office. Following a two-year global review by WADA, the revised 2027 code was approved in December last year and will begin on 1 January next year. Australia, through Sport Integrity Australia, took part throughout the review process. It worked through this with athletes, sporting organisations, stakeholders, the National Sports Tribunal, the Sports Drug Medical Advisory Committee, the Australian Sports Commission, peak sporting bodies and Australian antidoping experts. To maintain a globally harmonised antidoping framework, all code signatories, including us, are in the process of reviewing and updating their frameworks to comply with the revised code and international standards by New Year's Day 2027.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I need to stress that these amendments are unrelated to athlete gender matters. That's separate. Sport Integrity Australia has engaged with the World Anti-Doping Association extensively on this process for more than two years. That process has also involved regular consultation with major sporting bodies, athletes and athlete associations. The office of the shadow minister for the arts, sport and youth, the member for Moncrieff, has been in contact with the department and has gained a full briefing. I appreciate that, on behalf of the coalition. That's important, it's necessary and it's to be expected.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We know that Australia is a great sporting nation. We punch well above our weight. It doesn't matter whether it's individual sports or team sports; our weather, our venues and just our true national spirit and pride get us across the line on so many occasions. Most Australians really love our sport, and all Australians want to see us succeed—but want to see us succeed in a fair way. The concept of the game is to play within the spirit. Yes, it's to win, but it's about quality participation, fair competition, the teamwork, the culture and what it provides to community, whether it's park sport or whether it's at what I think is the greatest theatre for sport in the world, the Melbourne Cricket Ground—and I say that as a New South Welshmen. I see you raising your eyebrows, Deputy Speaker Wilkie—a true Tasmanian, as the member for Clark—but the MCG is the most amazing and remarkable sporting stadium. I've been to many, and it is something to behold. When you get a packed crowd for the Boxing Day cricket test or that one day in September, the Australian Football League Grand Final, the MCG is the place to be. While I'm at it, there's no greater horse race than the great two-miler at Flemington, either, on that first Tuesday in November.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia is a world leader in sports integrity. It has a longstanding and proud record of supporting clean, fair and safe sport. I want to digress just a little and talk about the Stawell Gift. The Stawell Gift is a famous footrace in country Victoria. This year's winner, Olufemi Komolafe, won the Easter Monday 120-metre event off a five-metre handicap in a very impressive time of 12.03 seconds. This fellow has attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder. Tragically for him, he failed a doping test due to inadvertently taking a banned substance found in ADHD medication that he was on that was prescribed to him by his sister, who is a doctor, to assist with his concentration in his studies. He lost the title, something which was obviously very prestigious and important for him, and the $40,000 winner's cheque. He also received a 12-month ban after Sport Integrity Australia accepted that the breach was accidental and that the athlete cooperated fully.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It reinforces the fact that Australia will always put what is right over an inadvertent mistake. He remained on the medication moving forward. He was reportedly unaware that the specific substance was banned in competition by Sport Integrity Australia and WADA and that he needed to file for a therapeutic-use exemption. Those exemptions are there for athletes who need to be on a certain medication for certain conditions and still be able to compete in certain events. ADHD medications are banned in sport for their potential performance-enhancing effects, with athletes able to use them only if they have a medical diagnosis and it's part of their treatment. It really brings home the fact that athletes have to be especially careful when using such substances. The retrospective winner, runner-up Jake Ireland, was elevated to the official winner, and good luck to him. But it was so disappointing for the one who was across the line and breasted the tape first.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I also want to talk just a little about the Essendon Football Club. We know that Essendon has not won a premiership for a long, long time. I was in parliament, as were you, Deputy Speaker, when the supplements saga occurred. That led to some very harsh outcomes. Some might say they were very appropriate outcomes. Without wanting to be partisan, there were suggestions of political interference in timeliness over when things were pushed and taken—not taken by players but taken to certain levels of jurisdiction by the parliament. It ended up with the football club, the Bombers, being fined $2 million, barred from playing in the 2013 AFL finals and stripped of draft picks. Senior coach James Hird was suspended for 12 months, and that had all sorts of implications for his life, both personally and professionally. Sports scientist Stephen Dank received a lifetime ban from the AFL and the National Rugby League, and Jobe Watson subsequently relinquished and was stripped of his 2012 Brownlow Medal. That had real and lasting implications for the 34 players from Essendon guilty of doping.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But, as I say, sport and parliament probably don't mix that well. We often just allow the sporting administrative codes to sort out their own issues, and that's probably the sensible and wise thing to do. Unfortunately, there were all sorts of allegations—that the timing of certain events in the chronology of the Essendon supplements saga were done to aid a certain political outcome. But, as I say, I digress. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As a signatory to the UNESCO antidoping convention and as the Oceania representative on the WADA, on the executive committee and associated committees, Australia through Sport Integrity Australia has been integral in shaping the World Anti-Doping Code. I do commend the government for what it's done in this regard, enhancing and building upon what the coalition did. I acknowledge the fact that we as a nation are hosting the 2032 Olympics and Paralympics. If ever there is a time for us to be squeaky clean when it comes to supplements and substances, it will be then, noting that the 2000 Olympics in Sydney to this day are still considered one of the finest of the modern-era games. They're games which, I might add—and I'm just sorry that the member for Adelaide is not here to hear me say this, but I'll certainly pass it on—were started by the Greeks. Noting too that the member for Adelaide is currently recovering from knee surgery, I'm not quite sure whether he thinks that his sporting potential will be enhanced by said surgery, but I do wish him all the very best in his recovery efforts because he's a good friend of mine and he's a good friend of the parliament's.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The World Anti-Doping Code does provide the framework allowing athletes to compete under the same core antidoping rules, and that is paramount. The consistency has to be there. It allows countries to, as I said before, host world sporting competitions, and making sure that it's updated right for implementation is exactly what happened under the former, coalition government in 2021. For this iteration, as I said before, the code was approved last year and will begin next year. Specifically, the 2027 code strengthens the effectiveness, fairness and consistency of the international antidoping system. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That is why I do say to the government that this legislation is necessary. Again I commend the government for doing this, including enhanced operational independence and improved athlete appeal rights—because that's important—and updated public disclosure provisions, which are also very important. Australia, through Sport Integrity Australia, participated through the review process, and it's good that we have a seat at those important discussions, at the table where these things are being discussed, because, as I say, there's no country on earth with more of a per capita record of sporting achievement than Australia. With that, I commend the legislation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Federation Chamber adjourned at 19:33</span>
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