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    <date>2022-11-10</date>
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            <a href="Chamber" type="">Thursday, 10 November 2022</a>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">The SPEAKER (</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Hon.</span>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Milton Dick</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">) </span>took the chair at 09:00, made an acknowledgement of country and read prayers.</span>
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          <title>Higher Education Support Amendment (2022 Measures No. 1) Bill 2022</title>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Higher Education Support Amendment (2022 Measures No. 1) Bill 2022</span>
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            <title>First Reading</title>
            <page.no>1</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">First Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill and explanatory memorandum presented by <span style="font-weight:bold;">Mr</span><span style="font-weight:bold;"> Clare</span>.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a first time.</span>
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            <page.no>1</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Clare, Jason Dean MP</name>
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                <electorate>Blaxland</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CLARE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Blaxland</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Education</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:01</span>):  I move:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill amends the Higher Education Support Act 2003 to support students through fairer grandfathering provisions and support our rural, remote and very remote communities by encouraging our medical graduates to live and work in those areas.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When the former government's Job-ready Graduates scheme was introduced in late 2020 it grandfathered students who were already studying at 1 January 2021 so they could finish their course at the same student contribution rates as when they started.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In a lapsed bill the former government introduced a correction to those grandfathering provisions to include honours course students who had started but not finished their original course at 1 January 2021. That correction is included in this bill. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In my first weeks as education minister the <span style="font-style:italic;">Sydney Morning Herald</span> published a story that revealed that a number of other students were also left out of grandfathering because their courses were changed or cancelled by their universities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It's not fair that students face higher student contribution rates because of decisions taken by their university and which are out of their control.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill fixes that.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Job-ready Graduates scheme will be reviewed as part of the Universities Accord which will commence soon, but it's important that these measures are introduced now so that these students are not treated unfairly.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill also introduces measures from a lapsed bill to encourage doctors and nurse practitioners to live and work in rural, remote and very remote areas of Australia. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It puts in place a scheme for eligible doctors and nurse practitioners to have their HELP debts reduced or wiped if they live and work in those areas for a period based on the length of their degree.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Doctors and nurse practitioners who live and work in a remote or very remote community for the equivalent of half the length of their degree will be able to have 100 per cent of their HELP debt wiped.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Doctors and nurse practitioners who live and work in a large, medium or small rural town will have 100 per cent of their HELP debt wiped if they live and work there for the equivalent of the length of their degree.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This means an eligible doctor with a HELP debt from a six-year medical degree and who lives and works in a remote community like Broome or Bourke for three years will be able to have their HELP debt for that course wiped.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">An eligible nurse practitioner who lives and works in a rural town like Parkes for two years will be able to have the HELP debt for their nurse practitioner course wiped.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Doctors and nurse practitioners who meet half of the time requirements will be able to access half of the HELP debt removal.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Doctors and nurse practitioners working in these areas will also be able to apply for a waiver of indexation on their HELP debt whilst they live and work there.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The classification of rural and remote locations is based on the Modified Monash Model and the bill makes provision for guidelines to define eligibility and service requirements.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It is expected to help around 850 medical practitioners a year.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This measure will be effective from 1 January this year, and I look forward to working with my friend the Minister for Health in implementing this scheme.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The measures in this bill further support the government's commitment to fairness in our education system and to support services in our rural and remote communities.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I commend the bill to the House.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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          <title>Telecommunications Legislation Amendment (Information Disclosure, National Interest and Other Measures) Bill 2022</title>
          <page.no>2</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Telecommunications Legislation Amendment (Information Disclosure, National Interest and Other Measures) Bill 2022</span>
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            <title>First Reading</title>
            <page.no>2</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">First Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill and explanatory memorandum presented by <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms </span><span style="font-weight:bold;">Rowl</span><span style="font-weight:bold;">and</span>.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill read a first time.</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>2</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <page.no>2</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Rowland, Michelle MP</name>
                <name.id>159771</name.id>
                <electorate>Greenway</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="159771" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms ROWLAND</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Greenway</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:06</span>):  I move:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">From the computers we work on to the phones in our pockets, telecommunications power some of the most important aspects of life in Australia. As a result, law enforcement and a range of other functions that go towards securing the national interest rely on the cooperation of telecommunications companies.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Telecommunications Legislation Amendment (Information Disclosure, National Interest and Other Measures) Bill 2022<span style="font-style:italic;"></span>is targeted to not only improve the operation and transparency of the relationship between law enforcement and telcos but, crucially, to save lives.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">A New South Wales Deputy State Coroner recently completed a coronial inquest into the sad disappearance of a New South Wales resident. Upon completion of the inquest, I received correspondence on behalf of the coroner recommending urgent reform to section 287 of the Telecommunications Act 1997 (the act)<span style="font-style:italic;">.</span> Three weeks after that correspondence, I am bringing legislation to the parliament to address this issue raised by Her Honour.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I regret to advise the parliament that this is not the first time that this issue has been raised. In 2020, in an inquest into the death of a New South Wales resident, Her Honour Teresa O'Sullivan had first raised that disclosure of telecommunications data to save missing people had an unrealistic bar. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bill first and foremost responds directly to these recommendations to better protect the safety and wellbeing of Australians in danger. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Second, the bill increases accountability and transparency through enhanced record-keeping requirements for disclosures. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, the bill implements minor technical improvements to support the function of the act. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Repealing 'imminent'</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Currently, law enforcement is unduly obstructed in locating missing persons because telecommunications companies can only help triangulate the location of a person, if a threat to a person's life or health is 'serious and imminent'. The bill removes the requirement that the threat be imminent.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In both the recent inquest into the disappearance of the New South Wales resident I referred to earlier, and the 2020 <span style="font-style:italic;">Inquest into the death of Thomas Hunt</span>, law enforcement could justify a clear, serious risk to a person's life. Yet, the inability of law enforcement, with the information available, to characterise the threat as imminent in those matters contributed to two lives being lost. Both inquests, as well as a report from the Australian Law Reform Commission, stress the urgent repeal of the 'imminent' qualifier.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">IPND </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">d</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">isclosures</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the same vein of public safety, the bill enhances emergency disclosures from the Integrated Public Number Database (known as the IPND)—a database of all Australian phone numbers and associated names and addresses.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Currently, if the number calling triple 0 is unlisted, the IPND manager is prohibited from disclosing the associated names and addresses to emergency call persons even when that information is necessary to provide someone with life-saving emergency services. Given that 95 per cent of the 72 million active numbers in Australia are unlisted with all mobile numbers unlisted by default, the IPND manager is obstructed from helping the vast majority of Australians.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill amends the act so that the IPND manager can disclose information about a subscriber to the triple 0 emergency call person in connection with a call to triple 0. This will facilitate an emergency response, assisting our emergency services to do what they need to, to save lives. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Responding to nat</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">ural disasters</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are long-standing provisions in the act that allow telecommunications providers to give help to law enforcement and national security agencies, in response to requests for reasonable and necessary assistance. In doing so, providers are entitled to compensation on a 'no profit, no loss' basis, and are not liable for damages in relation to an act done or omitted in good faith in compliance with a request. As part of the National Emergency Declaration Act 2020, these provisions were broadened to allow telecommunications companies to provide reasonable and necessary assistance to emergency service organisations. However, that act unintentionally did not include protections for telecommunications companies acting in good faith from liability for damages. This bill corrects that error. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Record</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">-</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">keeping requirements</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Following recommendations from the Office of the Australian Information Commissioner and the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security, the bill improves the record-keeping requirements on the telecommunications industry to include more details about the authorisation of disclosures under the act. Better record keeping enhances accountability and transparency of the handling of personal data.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Industry consultation</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Major telecommunications providers and the Communications Alliance have been consulted on the bill with amendments made in response to their requests. There was some concern that time would be needed to implement IT changes for the enhanced disclosure record keeping—consequently this part of the bill has a six-month delayed commencement. Additionally, industry was concerned about who would be best placed to decide whether a threat to health or safety was 'serious'. Consequently, the explanatory memorandum makes very clear that telecommunications companies would be relying on the representations of law enforcement agencies and emergency service organisations when making this judgement.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Conclusion</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These proposed amendments minimise regulatory impact and provide benefit to industry, law enforcement agencies, and emergency service organisations. More importantly, I believe the proposed amendments will contribute to saving lives.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I commend the bill to the House.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="265967" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Wallace:</span>
                    </a>  Point of order, Mr Speaker: I don't have the best hearing in the world, but I'm just not hearing any voices on the government side.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
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                    </a>  I am.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="265967" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Wallace:</span>
                    </a>  I'm happy to accept that, but I'm looking over there and I'm not hearing any voices.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Rest assured, Member for Fisher, I'm keeping a close eye on the House and hearing all voices. To the point of order, I give the call to the Leader of the House.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
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                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Burke:</span>
                    </a>  To the point of order, and I'm embarrassed about having to raise this when the point of order was raised by a former Speaker, the principle of two voices applies to the standing order when the Speaker asks, 'Is a division required?' 'Is a division required' is when that standing order applies. I'd advise the former Speaker to do what he should have done when he was Speaker and read the rules.</span>
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                  <page.no>3</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                  <page.no>3</page.no>
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                  <name role="metadata">Wallace, Andrew MP</name>
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                  <page.no>3</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                  <page.no>3</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022</title>
          <page.no>3</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>3</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:   <br clear="all">.</br>"The House declines to give the bill a second reading and calls on the Government to:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(1)give the Australian Parliament three months to review these significant changes rather than trying to force through the legislation this year;</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(2)amend the legislation to exclude changes to multi-employer bargaining which will lead to more strikes and fewer jobs without increasing productivity or wages;</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(3)admit to the Australian people that these extreme industrial relations changes will result in significant red tape and higher costs for small, family and medium businesses;</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(4)work with the Opposition, crossbench and other stakeholders to make improvements to the Better Off Overall Test and changes to enterprise bargaining as outlined in the former Coalition Government's legislation introduced in 2020;</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(5)abandon the move to abolish the Australian Building and Construction Commission and the Registered Organisations Commission;</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(6)redraft this legislation to ensure matters are dealt with separately rather than as an "all or nothing" approach; and</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(7)in the event the bill is passed, an independent review be conducted of the operation of the amendments made by this Act as soon as practical 12 months after the bill receives Royal Assent and cause a copy of the report to be tabled in each House of Parliament".</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That all words after "reading" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">"until an inquiry into parts 11, 15, 18, 19, 21 and 22 of the bill is undertaken by a House or Senate committee, with the inquiry lasting not less than 90 days".</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">to which the following amendment was moved:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That the following words be added after the words 90 days:   <br clear="all">.</br>"; and</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(1)parts 1, 2 and 3 of the bill are added to the inquiry; and</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">(2)calls on the Government to change the definition of a small business from 15 to 100 employees".</span>
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                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet"> </span>
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                <page.no>4</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                    <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [09:19]<br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick)</p>
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                  <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
                  <name>Chandler-Mather, M.</name>
                  <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                  <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                  <name>Clare J. D.</name>
                  <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
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                  <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                  <name>Daniel, Z.</name>
                  <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Fernando, C.</name>
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                  <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                  <name>Georganas, S.</name>
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                  <name>Gorman, P.</name>
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                  <name>Khalil, P.</name>
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                  <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                  <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                  <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                  <name>Lim, S. B. C.</name>
                  <name>Marles, R. D.</name>
                  <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
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                  <name>McBride, E. M.</name>
                  <name>Miller-Frost, L. J.</name>
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                  <name>Plibersek, T. J.</name>
                  <name>Rae, S. T.</name>
                  <name>Reid, G. J.</name>
                  <name>Repacholi, D. P.</name>
                  <name>Rishworth, A. L.</name>
                  <name>Roberts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Rowland, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, J. C.</name>
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                  <name>Scrymgour, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Shorten, W. R.</name>
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                  <name>Stanley, A. M. (Teller)</name>
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                  <name>Templeman, S. R.</name>
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                  <name>Watson-Brown, E.</name>
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                  <name>Wilkie, A. D.</name>
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                  <name>Boyce, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Broadbent, R. E.</name>
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                  <name>Chaney, K. E.</name>
                  <name>Coleman, D. B.</name>
                  <name>Conaghan, P. J.</name>
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                  <name>Entsch, W. G.</name>
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                  <name>McIntosh, M. I.</name>
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                  <name>O'Brien, L. S.</name>
                  <name>Pearce, G. B.</name>
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                  <name>Ramsey, R. E. (Teller)</name>
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                  <name>Sharkie, R. C. C.</name>
                  <name>Spender, A. M.</name>
                  <name>Steggall, Z.</name>
                  <name>Stevens, J.</name>
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                  <name>Tehan, D. T.</name>
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                  <name>Tink, K. J.</name>
                  <name>Tudge, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Vasta, R. X.</name>
                  <name>Violi, A. A.</name>
                  <name>Wallace, A. B.</name>
                  <name>Webster, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Willcox, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Wilson, R. J.</name>
                  <name>Wolahan, K.</name>
                  <name>Wood, J. P.</name>
                  <name>Young, T. J.</name>
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                <page.no>5</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [09:31] <br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick) </p>
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            </division.header>
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              <ayes>
                <num.votes>80</num.votes>
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                  <name>Aly, A.</name>
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                  <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
                  <name>Chandler-Mather, M.</name>
                  <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                  <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                  <name>Clare J. D.</name>
                  <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
                  <name>Coker, E. A.</name>
                  <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                  <name>Daniel, Z.</name>
                  <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Fernando, C.</name>
                  <name>Freelander, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                  <name>Georganas, S.</name>
                  <name>Giles, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Gorman, P.</name>
                  <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Hill, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Husic, E. N.</name>
                  <name>Jones, S. P.</name>
                  <name>Katter, R. C.</name>
                  <name>Kearney, G. M.</name>
                  <name>Keogh, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Khalil, P.</name>
                  <name>King, C. F.</name>
                  <name>King, M. M. H.</name>
                  <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                  <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                  <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                  <name>Lim, S. B. C.</name>
                  <name>Marles, R. D.</name>
                  <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
                  <name>McBain, K. L.</name>
                  <name>McBride, E. M.</name>
                  <name>Miller-Frost, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, B. K.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, R. G.</name>
                  <name>Mulino, D.</name>
                  <name>Neumann, S. K.</name>
                  <name>O'Connor, B. P. J.</name>
                  <name>O'Neil, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Payne, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Perrett, G. D.</name>
                  <name>Phillips, F. E.</name>
                  <name>Plibersek, T. J.</name>
                  <name>Rae, S. T.</name>
                  <name>Reid, G. J.</name>
                  <name>Repacholi, D. P.</name>
                  <name>Rishworth, A. L.</name>
                  <name>Roberts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Rowland, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, M. M.</name>
                  <name>Scrymgour, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Shorten, W. R.</name>
                  <name>Sitou, S.</name>
                  <name>Smith, D. P. B. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Stanley, A. M. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Swanson, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Templeman, S. R.</name>
                  <name>Thistlethwaite, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Thwaites, K. L.</name>
                  <name>Vamvakinou, M.</name>
                  <name>Watson-Brown, E.</name>
                  <name>Watts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Wells, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Wilkie, A. D.</name>
                  <name>Wilson, J. H.</name>
                  <name>Zappia, A.</name>
                </names>
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              <noes>
                <num.votes>58</num.votes>
                <title>NOES</title>
                <names>
                  <name>Andrews, K. L.</name>
                  <name>Archer, B. K.</name>
                  <name>Bell, A. M.</name>
                  <name>Birrell, S. J.</name>
                  <name>Boyce, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Broadbent, R. E.</name>
                  <name>Buchholz, S.</name>
                  <name>Chaney, K. E.</name>
                  <name>Coleman, D. B.</name>
                  <name>Conaghan, P. J.</name>
                  <name>Coulton, M. M. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Dutton, P. C.</name>
                  <name>Entsch, W. G.</name>
                  <name>Fletcher, P. W.</name>
                  <name>Gee, A. R.</name>
                  <name>Gillespie, D. A.</name>
                  <name>Goodenough, I. R. </name>
                  <name>Haines, H. M.</name>
                  <name>Hamilton, G. R.</name>
                  <name>Hastie, A. W.</name>
                  <name>Hawke, A. G.</name>
                  <name>Joyce, B. T. G.</name>
                  <name>Landry, M. L.</name>
                  <name>Le, D.</name>
                  <name>Leeser, J.</name>
                  <name>Ley, S. P.</name>
                  <name>Littleproud, D.</name>
                  <name>Marino, N. B.</name>
                  <name>McCormack, M. F.</name>
                  <name>McIntosh, M. I.</name>
                  <name>Morrison, S. J.</name>
                  <name>O'Brien, E. L.</name>
                  <name>O'Brien, L. S.</name>
                  <name>Pearce, G. B.</name>
                  <name>Pike, H. J.</name>
                  <name>Pitt, K. J.</name>
                  <name>Ramsey, R. E. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Robert, S. R.</name>
                  <name>Scamps, S. A.</name>
                  <name>Sharkie, R. C. C.</name>
                  <name>Spender, A. M.</name>
                  <name>Steggall, Z.</name>
                  <name>Stevens, J.</name>
                  <name>Sukkar, M. S.</name>
                  <name>Taylor, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Tehan, D. T.</name>
                  <name>Thompson, P.</name>
                  <name>Tink, K. J.</name>
                  <name>Tudge, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Vasta, R. X.</name>
                  <name>Violi, A. A.</name>
                  <name>Wallace, A. B.</name>
                  <name>Webster, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Willcox, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Wilson, R. J.</name>
                  <name>Wolahan, K.</name>
                  <name>Wood, J. P.</name>
                  <name>Young, T. J.</name>
                </names>
              </noes>
              <pairs>
                <num.votes>0</num.votes>
                <title>PAIRS</title>
                <names />
              </pairs>
            </division.data>
            <division.result>
              <body>
                <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed to. <br />Bill read a second time. <br />Messages from the Governor-General recommending appropriation for the bill and proposed amendments announced.</p>
              </body>
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          </division>
        </subdebate.2>
        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Consideration in Detail</title>
            <page.no>6</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Consideration in Detail</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bill—by leave—taken as a whole.</span>
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          </subdebate.text>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>6</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employm</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">ent and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:34</span>):  I present a supplementary explanatory memorandum to the bill and move government amendments (1) to (150) as circulated together. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">FAIR WORK LEGISLATION </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">AMENDMENT (SECURE JOBS, BETTER PAY) BILL 2022</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">SUPPLEMENTARY EXPLANATORY MEMORANDUM </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendments to be Moved on Behalf of the Government</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(Circulated by the authority of the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">the Hon Tony Burke MP)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">AMENDMENTS T</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">O THE FAIR WORK LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (SECURE JOBS, BETTER PAY) BILL 2022 </span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">OUTLINE</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">These amendments amend the <span style="font-style:italic;">Fair Work Act 2009</span> (FW Act) and related legislation in Parts 1, 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 23, 26 and 27 of Schedule 1 to the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022 (Bill). In addition, this amendment adds Parts 23A and 25A to the Bill.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">The amendments:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">remove the capacity for Ministerial directions to the General Manager of the Fair Work Commission about the performance of their functions under the <span style="font-style:italic;">Fair Work (Registered Organisations) Act 2009</span>;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">preserve the concurrent operation of State and Territory laws dealing with sexual harassment and ensure that the Commonwealth can be held vicariously liable for contraventions of the new prohibition on sexual harassment by defence members;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">provide that certain Fair Work Commission (FWC) orders under new section 65C cannot be inconsistent with the FW Act, or a term of a fair work instrument (other than another FWC order of the same kind);</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">strengthen the fixed term contract anti-avoidance provisions, by providing that a person must not fail to re-engage an employee and instead engage another person to do substantially the same work, in order to avoid the prohibition in new section 333E; and insert a new commencement date of 12 months for these provisions;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">require that before issuing an intractable bargaining declaration, the FWC must be satisfied that a prescribed minimum period of good faith bargaining has elapsed; </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">provide that employers and their employees are precluded from being compelled into an authorisation or single interest employer agreement where they have agreed to bargain for a proposed single enterprise agreement;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">give the FWC discretion to refuse to make an authorisation for a single interest employer agreement, vary an authorisation or vary an agreement to add an employer and their employees in prescribed circumstances (broadly, where there is a history of effective bargaining between the parties, the employer is bargaining in good faith and it has been less than six months since the nominal expiry date of a previous relevant enterprise agreement); </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">ensure that single interest employer agreements would be treated as multi-enterprise agreements in all respects (while preserving the current rules for those with current agreements or who have applied for a declaration or an authorisation prior to the commencement of the provisions);</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">replace proposed new section 178C, with a scheme precluding multi-employer agreements from covering employees in relation to the performance of certain types of work in the building and construction industry; </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">provide that before an employer requests employees to approve a multi-enterprise agreement by voting for it, the employer must obtain written agreement to the making of the request from each bargaining representative for the agreement that is an employee organisation;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">ensure that for multi-enterprise bargaining, protected action ballot (PAB) orders will be issued with respect to each employer on an enterprise-by-enterprise basis;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">omit Division 1 of Part 19 of the Bill that would provide a PAB is valid for 3 months and that industrial action can only be taken during that period under that PAB;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">retain specific safeguards concerning explaining agreements to employees and in an appropriate manner taking into account the particular circumstances and needs of those employees, for example, those who are young, from a culturally and linguistically diverse backgrounds or who did not have a bargaining representative for the enterprise agreement;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">provide that the better off overall test reconsideration process would be available to 'new employees' (engaged after the original 'test time') in circumstances where an enterprise agreement provides different terms and conditions for those employees than it does for the 'original employees' when they engage in the same patterns or kinds of work, or types of employment; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">insert a new Part 25A to establish a National Construction Industry Forum as a statutory advisory body. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">FINANCIAL IMPACT STATEMENT </span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">The financial impact of the National Construction Industry Forum is yet to be determined in consultation with the Department of Finance, and any other associated departments, and once agreed will be included in the relevant appropriation bills. The remaining amendments have nil financial impact.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">STATEMENT OF COMPATIBILITY WITH HUMAN RIGHTS</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Prepared in accordance with Part 3 of the Human Rights (Parliamentary Scrutiny) Act 2011</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Amendments to the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">1. A detailed statement of compatibility with human rights was prepared for the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022 (the Bill).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">2. The amendments to the Bill are compatible with the human rights and freedoms recognised or declared in the international instruments listed in section 3 of the <span style="font-style:italic;">Human Rights (Parliamentary Scrutiny) Act 2011</span>.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Overview of amendments</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">3. The amendments to the Bill that are relevant to human rights are outlined below.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Prohibiting sexual harassment in connection with work</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">4. Amendment 10 would ensure that State and Territory laws dealing with sexual harassment can operate concurrently with the new provisions prohibiting sexual harassment in connection with work. This includes State and Territory anti-discrimination, workplace relations, occupational health and safety, and criminal laws.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">5. Amendments 11-14 would ensure that the Commonwealth can be held vicariously liable for contraventions of the new prohibition on sexual harassment by defence members. The Commonwealth would only be liable for contraventions in connection with the person's service as a defence member where the Commonwealth could not prove that it took all reasonable steps to prevent the contravention. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Enterprise agreement pre-approval requirements</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">6. The amendments would address concerns that the proposed removal of enterprise pre-approval requirements and protections in subsections 180(5) and (6) of the FW Act may negatively impact employees, specifically those who are young, from a culturally and linguistically diverse (CALD) backgrounds or who did not have a bargaining representative for the enterprise agreement. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">7. The amendments would retain these safeguards and require the FWC to be satisfied, as part of determining that an enterprise agreement has been genuinely agreed to by employees, that the employer has taken all reasonable steps to ensure that the terms of a proposed enterprise agreement or proposed variation of an agreement, and their effect, are explained to relevant employees in an appropriate manner, taking into account their particular circumstances and needs.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Human rights implications</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">8. The definition of 'human rights' in the Human Rights (Parliamentary Scrutiny) Act 2011 relates to the core seven United Nations human rights treaties. Amendments to the Bill engages the following rights:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the right to an effective remedy under Article 2(3) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and Article 2 of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW) and the right to a fair hearing under Article 14(1) of the ICCPR;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the right to presumption of innocence and other guarantees in relation to criminal charges under Article 14 and Article 15 of the ICCPR;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the right to work and to just and favourable conditions of work under Articles 6 and 7 of the International Covenant on Economics, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR); and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the right to equality and non-discrimination under Article 2 of the ICCPR and Article 2 of the ICESCR and Article 26 of the ICCPR.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Right to an effective remedy and right to a fair hearing</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">9. Article 2(3) of the ICCPR and Article 2 of the CEDAW provides the right to an effective remedy for persons who have suffered human rights violations by Australian authorities, as well as persons who have suffered discrimination perpetrated by Australian authorities. The United Nations Human Rights Committee has stated that the right to an effective remedy encompasses an obligation to bring to justice perpetrators of human rights abuses, including discrimination, and also to provide appropriate reparation to the persons who have suffered human rights abuses. Reparation can involve measures including compensation, restitution, rehabilitation, public apologies, guarantees of non-repetition and changes in relevant laws and practices.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">10. Article 14(1) of the ICCPR provides that, in the determination of rights and obligations in a suit at law, all persons have a right to a fair and public hearing before a competent, independent and impartial court or tribunal established by law.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Prohibiting sexual harassment in connection with work amendments</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">11. Amendment 10 would promote the right to an effective remedy by ensuring that State or Territory laws that deal with sexual harassment can operate concurrently with Part 3-5A. This would ensure that an aggrieved person could choose the jurisdiction in which they seek a remedy in relation to workplace sexual harassment. The amendments also provide a way to resolve any inconsistencies in orders made under both a State or Territory law and under the FW Act. Existing provisions in the Bill would prevent multiple penalties being imposed on a party in relation to the same conduct under both the FW Act and State or Territory anti-discrimination law. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">12. Amendments 11-14 would promote the right to an effective remedy by enabling an aggrieved person to seek a remedy from the Commonwealth in relation to a contravention of the new prohibition on sexual harassment by a defence member, if that contravention is in connection with the person's service as a defence member. This ensures a remedy is available, even where a remedy could not be obtained from the perpetrator themselves, and is consistent with the vicarious liability provisions relating to other employers and principals in the Bill, and in the <span style="font-style:italic;">Sex Discrimination Act 1984 </span>(SD Act). </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">13. This amendment would maintain the proportionality in the existing vicarious liability provisions in the Bill by limiting the ability of an aggrieved person to seek a remedy from the Commonwealth if the Commonwealth took all reasonable steps to prevent the sexual harassment from occurring.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Criminal process rights</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">14. Articles 14 and 15 of the ICCPR protect criminal process rights:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">Article 14(1) provides that all persons shall be equal before the courts and tribunals, and that in the determination of any criminal charge against a person, that person is entitled to a fair and public hearing by a competent, independent and impartial tribunal established by law.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">Article 14(2) provides that those charged with a criminal offence are presumed innocent until proven guilty according to the law.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">Article 14(3) sets out a range of guarantees that each person shall be entitled to in the determination of any criminal charge against them. This includes the right not to be compelled to testify against themselves or to confess guilt.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">Article 14(7) protects against the risk of double punishment; and </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">Article 15(1) protects against criminal penalties applying retrospectively.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Prohibiting sexual harassment in connection with work amendments</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">15. The amendments to the proposed prohibition of sexual harassment in connection with work do not directly engage rights in relation to criminal process, but they do provide for civil remedies.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">16. Amendments 11-14 would amend the vicarious liability provision in the Bill to enable an aggrieved person to seek a remedy from the Commonwealth in relation to a contravention of the new prohibition on sexual harassment by a defence member, if that contravention was in connection with the person's service as a defence member. This is necessary to ensure that the Commonwealth would be jointly responsible for compensation in these situations, in circumstances where it has not taken all reasonable steps to prevent sexual harassment. The amendments are proportionate as it does not apply if the Commonwealth proves that it took all reasonable steps to prevent the contravention.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">17. The amendments would ensure consistency with the SD Act, which provides for the vicarious liability of the Commonwealth for sexual harassment perpetrated by defence members, and includes the reasonable steps exemption.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">18. Amendment 10 would preserve the concurrent operation of state and territory laws that deal with sexual harassment. This will not expose respondents to a risk of double punishment. As noted in the provision, generally section 734B prevents multiple applications or complaints being brought under the FW Act and state and territory anti-discrimination laws. In addition, Division 4 of Part 4-1 provides rules governing the interaction between civil and criminal proceedings, and civil double jeopardy.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Right to work and rights in </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">work</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">19. Article 6 of the ICESCR requires the state parties to the Covenant to recognise the right to work and to take appropriate steps to safeguard this right. The United Nations Committee on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights has started that the right to work in Article 6(1) encompasses the need to provide the worker with just and favourable conditions of work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">20. The United Nations Committee on Economic Social and Cultural Rights in General Comment 18 has also stated that the right to work includes:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">the right not to be deprived of work unfairly. This definition underlines the fact that respect for the individual and his dignity is expressed through the freedom of the individual regarding the choice to work, while emphasizing the importance of work for personal development as well as for social and economic inclusion.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">21. There can also be no discrimination in access to and maintenance of employment on the grounds enumerated in Article 2(2) of the ICESCR.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">22. Article 7 of the ICESCR requires the state parties to the Covenant to recognise the right of everyone to the enjoyment of just and favourable working conditions. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Enterprise agreement pre-approval requirements</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">23. A detailed Statement of Compatibility with Human Rights was prepared for the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022 (the Bill). In addition to the human rights identified in the original Statement, the amendments would further support the right to work and to just and favourable conditions of work by retaining an important employee safeguard which requires an employer to explain the terms of a proposed enterprise agreement, and their effect to relevant employees in a manner that is appropriate to their needs and circumstances. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">24. The amendments would positively engage and be compatible with the right to just and favourable conditions of work by ensuring that employees who are young, from CALD backgrounds or who did not have a bargaining representative during the bargaining process have an opportunity to understand the proposed terms and conditions that would cover their employment, so that they make an informed decision as to whether to vote for the proposed enterprise agreement. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Right to equality and non-discrimination </span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">25. Both the ICCPR (Article 2(1)) and the ICESCR (Article 2(2)) requires state parties to the Covenants to guarantee that the rights set out in these covenants are exercised without discrimination of any kind, including on the grounds of race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">26. Article 26 of the ICCPR further provides that state parties must ensure that all persons are equal before the law and are entitled, without any discrimination, to the equal protection of the law. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Enterprise agreement pre-approval requirements</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">27. The amendments would positively engage and be compatible with the right to equality and non-discrimination by ensuring that employees who have a particular attribute (for example, young employees, or employees from a CALD background) are provided tailored and appropriate explanations about a proposed enterprise agreement that may cover their employment, so that they may cast an informed vote either for or against the proposed agreement. The amendments would ensure that these employees are provided an equal opportunity to understand a proposed enterprise agreement, in the same way as employees who may not have those particular attributes.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Conclusion </span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">28. The Bill is compatible with human rights because it promotes human rights, including civil, political, social, economic and labour rights. To the extent that it may limit human rights, those limitations are reasonable, necessary and proportionate.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Minister for Employment and Workplace Rela</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">tions, the Hon Tony Burke MP</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">NOTES ON AMENDMENTS </span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">In these notes on amendments, the following abbreviations are used:</span>
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                        <span class="HPS-Small">
                          <span style="font-style:italic;">Fair Work Act 2009</span>
                        </span>
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                        <span class="HPS-Small">
                          <span style="font-style:italic;">Fair Work (Transitional Provisions and Consequential Amendments) Act 2009</span>
                        </span>
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                        <span class="HPS-Small">Fair Work Commission</span>
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                        <span class="HPS-Small">General Manager</span>
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                        <span class="HPS-Small">General Manager of the Fair Work Commission</span>
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                        <span class="HPS-Small">Notice of employee representational rights</span>
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                        <span class="HPS-Small">Protected action ballot</span>
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                        <span class="HPS-Small">
                          <span style="font-style:italic;">Fair Work (Registered Organisations) Act 2009</span>
                        </span>
                      </p>
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                        <span class="HPS-Small">
                          <span style="font-style:italic;">Sex Discrimination Act 1984</span>
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                      <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                        <span class="HPS-Small">
                          <span style="font-style:italic;">Safety, Rehabilitation and Compensation Act 1988</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Expert panels</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 1: Clause 2, page 3 (table item 11)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">1. This amendment would change the commencement of Part 6 from the day after Royal Assent to a day to be fixed by Proclamation or, if the provisions do not commence within the period of three months beginning on the day of Royal Assent, they commence on the day after the end of that period.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Fixed term contracts</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 2: Clause 2, page 3 (table item 16)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">2. This amendment would provide that the fixed term contract provisions in Part 10 of Schedule 1 commence on the earlier of:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">a day to be fixed by proclamation, or</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">if the provisions do not commence within 12 months after the Bill receives Royal Assent, the day after that 12 month period has ended. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 15: Schedule 1, item 441, page 120 (lines 27 to 33)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">3. This amendment would insert new proposed paragraph 333E(5)(d), which would prohibit the use of a third or more fixed term contract where an employee has previously been engaged on two consecutive contracts for the same or similar work. For the prohibition to apply, there must be substantial continuity between all three or more of the contracts. This amendment clarifies that the prohibition applies when the employment relationship exceeds two contracts, even if it does not also exceed two years in duration. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 16: Schedule 1, item 441, page 123 (after line 11), after paragraph 33H(1)(b)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">4. This amendment would insert a further anti-avoidance provision at new paragraph 333H(1)(ba). This provision would prohibit an employer from ending one employee's employment in accordance with the terms of their fixed term contract, and engaging another employee to do the same or similar work. In order for this provision to apply to an employer's decision to terminate an employee's employment, the employer must have made the decision so as to avoid the operation of section 333E. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 130: Schedule 1, item 660, page 223 (line 17)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 131: Schedule 1, item 660, page 223 (line 19)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 132: Schedule 1, item 660, page 223 (line 24)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">5. These amendments are consequential to the amendment to the commencement provision for Part 10 of Schedule 1 set out in amendment 2.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Objects of the Fair Work Act</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 9A: Schedule 1, item 346, page 80 (lines 4 and 5)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 9B: Schedule 1, item 347, page 80 (line 10)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 9C: Schedule 1, item 349, page 80 (line 19)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">6. These amendments would replace references to the term 'gender equity' with the words 'gender equality' in the objects of the Act, the modern awards objective, and the minimum wages objective.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">7. The intention of the references to 'gender equality' in each of these provisions is to adopt language more consistent with the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women and to reflect the policy objective of both formal and substantive gender equality. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Agreement of bargaining representatives</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 3: Clause 2, page 4 (cell at table item 20, column 2)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">8. Due to the interaction between Part 14 (Enterprise agreement approval) and Part 21 (Single interest employer authorisations) of Schedule 1 to the Bill, this amendment would have the effect of aligning commencement of those Parts. Part 21 commences at the same time as Part 20.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 30: Schedule 1, page 157 (before line 8), before item 507</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">9. This amendment would insert a new section 180A, which applies to a proposed multi-enterprise agreement (i.e. a proposed single interest agreement, supported bargaining agreement or cooperative workplace agreement).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">10. New section 180A provides that before requesting employees to approve such an agreement by voting for it, the employer must obtain written agreement to the making of the request from each bargaining representative for the agreement that is an employee organisation. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">11. The requirement would not apply to a proposed single-enterprise agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">12. Currently, whether an employer's failure to notify or obtain the agreement of bargaining representatives prior to putting an enterprise agreement to a vote amounts to a breach of the good faith bargaining requirements in section 228 of the FW Act depends on the particular circumstances (see, e.g., <span style="font-style:italic;">CFMMEU v Tahmoor Coal Pty Ltd</span> [2010] FWAFB 3510).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 31: Schedule 1, item 509, page 158 (after line 15), after subsection 188(2)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">13. This amendment would insert new subsection 188(2A), which provides that the FWC cannot be satisfied that a multi-enterprise agreement has been genuinely agreed to by the relevant employees unless it is satisfied that the employer complied with new section 180A, i.e., unless the employer obtained the written agreement of bargaining representatives that are employee organisations to put the agreement to a vote.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">14. Satisfaction that a non-greenfields enterprise agreement has been genuinely agreed to is a condition of the FWC approving the agreement (see paragraph 186(2)(a)).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 33: Schedule 1, item 509, page 158 (line 36), after "subsection"</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 36: Schedule 1, item 509, page 159 (before line 6), before paragraph 188(5)(b)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">15. Amendments 33 and 36 would amend new subsection 188(5) to provide that in determining whether an enterprise agreement has been genuinely agreed to, the FWC's discretion to disregard minor procedural or technical errors (if employees were not likely to have been disadvantaged by the errors) applies to the requirement in new section 180A.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 37: Schedule 1, page 160 (after line 14), after item 511</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 40: Schedule 1, item 516, page 160 (lines 31 to 32)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">16. Amendment 37 inserts new section 207A, which would introduce a similar requirement for employers to obtain written agreement from relevant employee organisations prior to requesting employees to approve a proposed variation of a multi-enterprise agreement under Subdivision A of Division 7 of the FW Act.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">17. New section 207A provides that before an employer requests (under subsection 208(1)) that employees approve a variation of a multi-enterprise agreement by voting for it, the employer must obtain written agreement to the making of the request from each employee organisation covered by the enterprise agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">18. Amendment 40 is a consequential amendment and ensures that compliance with new section 207A is a condition of the FWC being satisfied that the variation has been genuinely agreed to by the relevant employees (subject to the FWC's discretion to disregard minor procedural or technical errors if employees were not likely to have been disadvantaged by the errors).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 70: Schedule 1, item 597, page 191 (line 34)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 90: Schedule 1, item 629, page 206 (line 7)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 125: Schedule 1, item 649, page 224 (line 17)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">19. These amendments would have the effect that the new requirement to obtain written agreement from relevant employee organisations to put a variation of a multi-enterprise agreement to a vote of employees does not apply to the following variations:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">variations of a supported bargaining agreement to add an employer and their employees;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">variations of a single interest employer agreement to add an employer and their employees; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">variations of a cooperative workplace agreement to add an employer and their employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">20. Applications to make the relevant variations must be made jointly by the employer and their affected employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Better off overall test</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 4—Clause 2, page 4 (table item 22)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">21. This amendment would provide that Part 16 of Schedule 1 to the Bill commences on a day to be fixed by Proclamation or at the latest, the day after a period of 6 months beginning on the day of Royal Assent.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 42: Schedule 1, item 525, page 163 (line 14)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 47: Schedule 1, item 532, page 166 (line 20)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 51: Schedule 1, item 534, page 168 (line 29)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">22. These amendments would provide that where the FWC makes an amendment to an enterprise agreement (or an amendment to a variation of an enterprise agreement under Subdivision A of Division 7 of the FW Act) to address a concern about the BOOT, the amendment must be "necessary" to address the concern.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 43: Schedule 1, item 525, page 163 (line 16)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">23. This amendment would provide that if the FWC intends to specify an amendment to an enterprise agreement that is necessary to address a concern about the BOOT, then it "must", rather than "may", seek the views of the relevant employer or employers, employees and bargaining representatives for the agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 44: Schedule 1, item 528, page 164 (line 17)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 45: Schedule 1, item 528, page 164 (after line 25)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">24. Amendments 44 and 45 are technical amendments which would clarify that the BOOT will only apply to "prospective award covered employees" if the enterprise agreement is a greenfields agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 46: Schedule 1, item 531, page 166 (after line 6), after paragraph 211(4A)(a)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">25. This is a technical amendment, which would reflect that when the BOOT is applied to a variation of an enterprise agreement under Subdivision A of Division 7 of the FW Act, there are no longer any bargaining representatives for the agreement. The effect of this amendment is that the FWC must give consideration to any views relating to whether the agreement passes the BOOT that have been expressed by the relevant employer or employers, employees, and any employee organisations covered by the agreement. The FWC must also give primary consideration to any common view that has been expressed by the relevant employer or employers and any employee organisations that are covered by the agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 48: Schedule 1, item 532, page 166 (line 22)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">26. This amendment would provide that if the FWC intends to specify an amendment to a variation of an enterprise agreement that is necessary to address a concern about the BOOT, then the FWC "must", rather than "may", seek the views of the relevant employer or employers and employee organisations covered by the agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 49: Schedule 1, item 534, page 167 (line 17) to page 168 (line 6)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">27. This amendment to the Bill would substitute a new section 227A, concerning applications for the FWC to reconsider whether an agreement passes the BOOT.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">28. To address the possible scenario of an enterprise agreement passing the BOOT in circumstances where it provided globally more favourable terms and conditions for 'original employees' and less favourable terms and conditions for 'new employees' (that would not pass the BOOT if prospective employees were considered as a cohort at this time) who are doing the same work, new subsection 227A(3) would provide an additional basis for accessing the BOOT reconsideration process. BOOT reconsideration would also be available to 'new employees' in circumstances where the terms of the enterprise agreement applying to them are not the same as those applying to the 'original employees' if they engage in the same patterns or kinds of work, or types of employment.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">29. The effect of new subsection 227A(4) is that while BOOT reconsideration is based on an earlier 'test time' (either the time of the original application for approval of the enterprise agreement or the time of a subsequent application to vary the agreement), the relevant employees must still be 'award covered employees' for the agreement at the time of the application for reconsideration.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">30. While the FWC must give consideration to the views of the parties, and primary consideration to a common view in certain circumstances, the FWC remains required to undertake its own independent assessment in applying the BOOT pursuant to section 193A.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 50: Schedule 1, item 534, page 168 (lines 12 to 22), omit subsection 227B(2)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">31. This amendment would substitute new subsections 227B(2) and 227B(2A), concerning FWC reconsideration of whether an enterprise agreement passes the BOOT.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">32. New paragraph 227B(2)(a) is intended to remove any doubt that employees who are 'award covered employees' for the agreement at the time of the application for reconsideration should also be considered award covered employees, under paragraphs 193(4)(a) and (b), for the purpose of the reconsideration.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">33. The effect of paragraph 227B(2)(b) and subsection 227B(2A) is that the 'test time' for a reconsideration of whether an enterprise agreement passes the BOOT is the time the original application for approval of the agreement was made, or—if the FWC has approved one or more variations under section 211—the time the application for approval of the most recent of those variations was made.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">34. Paragraph 227B(2)(c) would clarify that BOOT reconsideration is not available in respect of a greenfields agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">35. Paragraphs 227B(2)(d)-(f) are technical amendments to reflect that at the stage of a reconsideration, there are no longer bargaining representatives for the agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 52: Schedule 1, item 534, page 169 (line 26)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">36. This amendment is a technical correction. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 133: Schedule 1, item 660, page 235 (line 6)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">37. This amendment is consequential on amendment 4 (commencement of Part 16 of the Bill).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Industrial action </span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 5: Clause 2, page 4 (table items 25 and 26)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">38. This amendment would amend Clause 2 of the Bill as a consequence of Amendment 59 omitting Division 1 from the Bill.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 59: Schedule 1, Part 19, Division 1, page 179 (line 2) to page 180 (line 5)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">39. This amendment would omit Division 1 from Part 19 of the Bill. Division 1 provided that protected industrial action could only occur within a three-month period starting from the date the results were declared for a successful PAB. With the omission of Division 1, protected industrial action by employees will be authorised by a PAB if the action commences within 30 days from the declaration of the results of the ballot, noting that the FWC may extend the 30-day period by up to 30 days in some circumstances.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 60: Schedule 1, item 576, page 183 (line 29) to page 184 (line 4)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">40. This amendment would amend Item 576 and insert two new Items into the Bill to provide that the Electoral Commissioner is a person who may apply to the courts for orders in relation to contraventions of civil penalty provisions, rather than referring to the Australian Electoral Commission. Table items 18, 19 and 20 of the table in subsection 539(2) relate to the conduct of PABs.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 61: Schedule 1, items 577 and 578, page 184 (lines 7 to 16)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">41. This amendment would make three changes to the Bill. The first change is to amend the heading of Division 3 as a consequence of the further amendments made by this amendment. The second change is a technical change to omit Items 577 and 578 from the Bill. These Items are not necessary as amendments to achieve the same outcome are at Items 625 and 626 in Part 20. The Items in Part 20 would preclude protected industrial action being taken in relation to a cooperative workplace agreement. Part 20 commences at the same time as Part 23, which defines 'a cooperative workplace agreement' at Item 642. Parts 20 and 23 need to commence before Part 19 as 'cooperative workplace agreement' would need to be defined for Part 3-3 of the FW Act before Part 19 commenced.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">42. New section 437A would require the FWC to issue one PAB order in relation to the employees for each employer when dealing with bargaining for a multi-enterprise agreement. This means that any protected industrial action arising out of the ballot would be conducted on an employer-by-employer basis. The amendments would not apply to related employers, as they continue to make single-enterprise agreements (see item 82, which inserts new item 627B in the Bill).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 62: Schedule 1, item 579, page 184 (lines 24 to 26)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">43. This amendment is a consequential amendment following the classification of both 'single interest employer agreements' and 'supported bargaining agreements' by other amendments as 'multi-enterprise agreements'. Item 579 would then provide that if the proposed enterprise agreement is a multi-enterprise agreement, employees are required to provide a minimum of 120 hours' notice before industrial action commences. See amendment 63 for multi-enterprise agreements that are greenfields agreements or co-operative workplace agreements.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 63: Schedule 1, page 184 (after line 26), after item 579</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">44. While cooperative workplace agreements are multi-enterprise agreements, to avoid any confusion, a legislative note is inserted to point to new section 413(2) as amended by Item 625 of the Bill which provides that to be protected industrial action, the industrial action must not be related to a proposed enterprise agreement that is a greenfields agreement or a co-operative workplace agreement. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 64: Schedule 1, item 581, page 185 (lines 9 to 12)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">45. This amendment would clarify the operation of Item 581 of the Bill. The amendment would leave no doubt that if an employee bargaining representative contravened an order to attend a conciliation conference held during the PAB period, protected industrial action would not be available to the employees under that PAB.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 65: Schedule 1, items 582 and 583, page 185 (lines 13 to 24)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">46. Similarly to amendment 64, this amendment would clarify the operation of Item 583 of the Bill. The amendment would leave no doubt that if an employer, or any employer bargaining representative, contravened an order to attend a conciliation conference during the PAB period, protected industrial action would not be available to the employer under that PAB.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 134: Schedule 1, item 660, clause 72, page 236 (lines 9 to 13)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">47. This amendment is consequential to amendment 59 which would omit Division 1 of Part 19 from the Bill. There is no longer a need for this application provision.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 135: Schedule 1, item 660, page 236, line 18</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">48. This is a technical amendment relating to the structure of the Bill to refer to 'subclause' rather than 'subsection'.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 136: Schedule 1, item 660, clause 72, page 236 (lines 23 to 27)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">49. This amendment is an application provision consequential to Amendment 60 which would enable the Electoral Commissioner to seek orders for contraventions of civil penalty provisions relating to the conduct of a PAB. This amendment provides that the Electoral Commissioner may seek orders from the courts from the commencement of Division 2 of Part 19.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 137: Schedule 1, item 660, clause 72, page 236, line 28</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">50. This amendment is a technical correction to an application provision to provide that from commencement all the requirements of Division 3 of Part 19 of Schedule 1 to the Bill apply. That is, to be protected industrial action, industrial action must not relate to a proposed cooperative workplace agreement or a greenfields agreement. In addition, an application for a PAB cannot be made if the agreement is a cooperative workplace agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Excluded work</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 6: Clause 2, page 5 (after table item 30)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">51. Amendment 6 would insert commencement information for new Part 23A, which would be inserted by amendment 128. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 68: Schedule 1, item 597, page 191 (lines 1 to 3)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 73: Schedule 1, item 597, page 194 (lines 25 to 27)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 75: Schedule 1, item 610, page 196 (lines 20 to 25)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 76: Schedule 1, item 611, page 197 (lines 23 to 26)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 77: Schedule 1, item 611, page 198 (lines 9 and 10)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 78: Schedule 1, item 611, page 198 (line 23) to page 199 (line 2)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 79: Schedule 1, item 614, page 199 (lines 7 to 20)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 81: Schedule 1, item 617, page 199 (line 25) to page 200 (line 3)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">52. Item 644 of the Bill would insert new section 178C which will be replaced by the amendments. New section 178C would permit the FWC, in certain circumstances, to make an order that has the effect of excluding a person who has a relevant record of repeatedly not complying with the FW Act from being a bargaining representative for a proposed enterprise agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">53. Amendment 117 would omit items 643 to 646 in favour of a scheme precluding multi-employer agreements from covering employees in relation to the performance of certain types of excluded work. Consequential to Amendment 117, the following amendments would facilitate the new scheme relating to excluded work and reflect the intention that where work is excluded it will not be possible to: </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">obtain a supported bargaining authorisation in respect of a proposed enterprise agreement that covers employees in relation to the performance of the excluded work; </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">add an employer to a supported bargaining authorisation in respect of a proposed enterprise agreement that covers employees in relation to the performance of the excluded work; or</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">obtain approval of a variation of an agreement (including a greenfields agreement) to cover the performance of the excluded work. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">54. New subsection 216AB(2), inserted by item 597, would prohibit the FWC from approving a variation of a supported bargaining agreement to add an employer and their employees if the employer is an excluded person under new section 178C. Amendment 68 would omit and substitute a new subsection 216AB(2) providing that the FWC must not approve the variation if, as a result of the variation, the agreement would cover employees in relation to excluded work. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">55. New paragraph 216BA(3)(a), inserted by item 597, would provide that the FWC must not make a variation of a supported bargaining agreement to add an employer and their employee without consent if the employee organisation that applied for the variation under section 216B is excluded for the purposes of the agreement by an order under section 178C. Amendment 73 would omit and substitute a new paragraph 216BA(3)(a) providing that the FWC must not make the variation if, as a result of the variation, the agreement would cover employees in relation to excluded work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">56. New subsection 242(1A), inserted by item 610, would prevent an employee organisation applying for a supported bargaining authorisation if it is excluded for the purposes of the agreement by an order made under new section 178C. Amendment 75 would omit item 610. This amendment is consequential on the shift from excluding persons to exclusion based on the type of work performed by employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">57. Item 611 would insert new sections 243 and 243A. Section 243 would provide the criteria which the FWC must consider in determining whether to make a supported bargaining authorisation. One such criterion is that the FWC is satisfied that at least some of the employees who will be covered by the agreement are represented by an employee organisation, disregarding any employee organisation excluded for the purposes of the agreement by an order under section 178C. Amendment 76 would omit the requirement that the FWC must disregard any employee organisation excluded for the purposes of the agreement by an order under section 178C.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">58. Amendment 77 would omit the heading to new section 243A and substitute a new heading, 'Restrictions on making supported bargaining authorisations'. This amendment is necessary as the new regime would exclude agreements on that basis that they cover employees performing certain types of excluded work, rather than excluding certain individuals from being a bargaining representative by an order under section 178C. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">59. New subsections 243A(4) and 243A(5) would provide that the FWC must not make a supported bargaining authorisation specifying an employer who is excluded under new section 178C and must vary an authorisation to remove any such employer. Amendment 78 would omit both subsections and substitute a new subsection 243A(4) providing that the FWC must not make a supported bargaining authorisation in relation to a proposed enterprise agreement if the agreement would cover employees in relation to excluded work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">60. New subsection 244(4), substituted by item 614, would provide that a person excluded by an order under section 178C cannot apply for a variation of a supported bargaining authorisation. Amendment 79 would omit and substitute a new item 614 that would provide that if an application is made for a variation of a supported bargaining authorisation to add an employer, the FWC must vary the authorisation to add the employer if satisfied it is in the public interest, taking into account specified matters, but must not vary the authorisation if, as a result of the variation, the proposed multi-enterprise agreement would cover employees in relation to excluded work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">61. New section 245A, inserted by item 617, would require the FWC to revoke a supported bargaining authorisation if the effect of one or more orders under section 178C is that none of the employees covered by the proposed supported bargaining agreement are represented by an employee organisation. Amendment 81 would omit item 617 and is consequential on the shift from excluding persons to exclusion based on the type of work performed by employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 87: Schedule 1, item 629, page 205 (lines 16 to 22)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 100: Schedule 1, page 209 (after line 24), after item 635</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 102: Schedule 1, item 637, page 210 (lines 17 to 19)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 104: Schedule 1, page 212 (before line 18), before item 640</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 105: Schedule 1, item 640, page 212 (line 18) to page 213 (line 19)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">62. New subsection 216DC(4), inserted by item 629, would prevent the FWC from approving a variation of a single interest employer agreement to extend coverage to a new employer and its affected employees if the employer or employee organisation that made the application is excluded for the purposes of the agreement by an order under new section 178C. Amendment 87 would omit subsection 216DC(4) and substitute new subsections 216DC(4) and (5). These new subsections would provide that the FWC must not approve the variation if the agreement is a greenfields agreement that covers employees in relation to general building and construction work or as a result of the variation, the agreement would cover employees in relation to general building and construction work. It is intended that the limitation preventing the FWC from approving the variation if, as a result of the variation, the agreement would cover employees in relation to general building and construction work would apply in relation to greenfields agreements. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">63. Amendment 100 would insert new section 249A providing that the FWC must not make a single interest employer authorisation in relation to a proposed enterprise agreement if the agreement would cover employees in relation to excluded work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">64. A note under new subsection 251(1) would indicate that a person is not a bargaining representative for the purposes of a variation of a single interest employer authorisation if they are excluded for the purposes of that agreement by an order under new section 178C. Amendment EW12 would omit the note and is a consequential amendment. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">65. Amendment 104 would insert a new item 639A, adding a new section 251A to provide that the FWC must not vary a single interest employer authorisation if, as a result of the variation, the proposed enterprise agreement to which the authorisation relates would cover employees in relation to excluded work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">66. Item 640 would insert new section 252A into Division 10 of Part 2-4 of the FW Act in order to set out the consequences for a single interest employer authorisation of an order by the FWC excluding a person for the purposes of a proposed enterprise agreement under new section 178C. Amendment 105 would omit item 640 and is a consequential amendment. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 118: Schedule 1, items 643 to 646, page 218 (line 9) to page 221 (line 13)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">67. Item 643 would introduce an exception to section 176 such that a person who is excluded by an order under new section 178C cannot be a bargaining representative for a proposed enterprise agreement that is not a greenfields agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">68. Item 644 would insert a new section 178C into the FW Act to enable the FWC to make orders which effectively ban a person from coverage by an enterprise agreement if the FWC is satisfied of specified matters.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">69. Item 645 would introduce a new subsection 183(3) which would preclude a person who is subject to an exclusion order under new section 178C from being covered by the agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">70. Item 646 would insert new section 183A providing that, in circumstances where an enterprise agreement is made and expressed to cover a person that is subject to an exclusion order under new section 178C, the enterprise agreement must be varied so that it is not expressed to cover the excluded person before an application for approval under section 185 can be made.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">71. Amendment 118 would omit items 643 to 646. The provisions specifying excluded work are primarily specified in amendment 128.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 120: Schedule 1, item 647, page 221 (lines 22 to 24)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">72. Section 186 of the FW Act sets out the requirements of which the FWC must be satisfied before it can approve an enterprise agreement. Item 647 would introduce a new subsection 186(2A) to require that the FWC would need to be satisfied that at least some of the employees to be covered by a cooperative workplace agreement that is not a greenfields agreement were represented by an employee organisation in relation to bargaining for the agreement. This would not include any employee organisations subject to an exclusion order under new section 178C. Amendment 120 is a consequential amendment and would omit the second sentence of subsection 186(2A) requiring that the FWC disregard any employee organisations subject to an exclusion order under new section 178C. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 121: Schedule 1, item 648, page 221 (lines 25 to 31)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">73. Item 648 would repeal and substitute subsection 187(3) to expand the operation of subsection 187(3) to require that the FWC is satisfied that the notice requirements pursuant to new section 183A and section 184 have been met before it can approve the agreement. New subsection 183A, which would be inserted by item 646, requires a bargaining representative vary an agreement if it is expressed to cover a person excluded by an order under new section 178C. Amendment 121 is a consequential amendment and would omit item 648. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 123: Schedule 1, item 649, page 223 (lines 31 to 33)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">74. Item 649 would insert a new Subdivision AC into Division 7 of Part 2-4 of the FW Act to allow an employer and their employees who are not covered by a cooperative workplace agreement to jointly apply for a variation of that cooperative workplace agreement. New subsection 216CB(2) would provide that the FWC must not approve the variation if the employer is excluded for the purposes of the agreement by an order under section 178C. Amendment 123 would omit and substitute a new subsections 216CB(2), providing that the FWC must not approve the variation if the agreement is a greenfields agreement that covers employees in relation to excluded work or, as a result of the variation, the agreement would cover employees in relation to excluded work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">75. The practical effect of this amendment would be that the FWC cannot approve a variation of a cooperative workplace agreement to add an employer and their employees if the variation would cause the agreement to cover employees in relation to excluded work. This is the case even where the agreement is a greenfields agreement. While the intention is to allow the FWC to approve multi-enterprise agreements that are greenfields agreements that will cover employees in relation to the excluded work, it is not intended to allow those agreements to be varied to add employers and employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 128: Schedule 1, page 225 (after line 30), after Part 23</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">76. Amendment 128 would insert new Part 23A dealing with excluded work. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">77. Item 651A would amend section 12 by inserting signpost definitions for "applicable time", defined by reference to subsection 23B(2), and "general building and construction work", defined by reference to subsection 23B(1). In this document, the term 'excluded work' is used interchangeably with the defined term "general building and construction work" to aid comprehension.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">78. Item 651B would insert a new section 23B, setting out the meaning of "general building and construction work" and "applicable time". </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">79. New subsection 23B(1) would define "general building and construction work" as work done onsite by an employee of an employer that is in the industry of general building and construction within the meaning of paragraph 4.3(a) of the Building and Construction General Onsite Award 2020 as in force at the applicable time. Subparagraph 23(B)(1)(b) would provide for a number of exclusions by reference to modern awards in force at the applicable time. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">80. New subsection 23B(2) would define "applicable time" as the start of the day before the section commences. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">81. While existing provisions of the FW Act refer to the "building and construction industry", for example subsection 123(3) and paragraphs 534(1)(e) and 789(1)(e), the expression "general building and construction work" used in new Part 23A would not be intended to have the same meaning as these existing provisions.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">82. The Department of Employment and Workplace Relations would publish or arrange for a relevant portfolio agency to publish the relevant clauses of the Building and Construction General Onsite Award 2020 as at the applicable time to assist relevant persons to understand and comply with relevant provisions. As at 5 November 2022, it was also possible to search the FWC's website for historical versions of awards.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">83. Item 651C is a technical amendment to the note below subsection 172(3) and would omit the reference to "Note" and substitute it with "Note 1".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">84. Item 651D would insert a new note 2 below subsection 172(3) providing that the FWC must not approve a multi-enterprise agreement that is not a greenfields agreement if the agreement would cover employees in relation to general building and construction work and refers to subsection 186(2B).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">85. Item 651E would insert a new subsection 186(2B) providing that, when considering approval of an enterprise agreement, if the agreement is a multi-enterprise agreement that is not a greenfields agreement, the FWC must be satisfied that the agreement does not cover employees in relation to general building and construction work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">86. Item 651F would insert a new paragraph 211(2)(aa) providing that in an application for approval of a variation of an enterprise agreement, the FWC must take into account subsection 211(3A) if the agreement is a multi-enterprise agreement. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">87. New subsection 211(3A) is inserted by item 651G and would provide that subsection 186(2B) has effect as if the requirement in that subsection that the agreement must not cover employees in relation to general building and construction work were a requirement that the agreement as proposed to be varied must not cover employees in relation to such work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 143: Schedule 1, item 660, page 239 (lines 1 to 7)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">88. Amendment 143 would omit new clause 79. New clause 79 refers to section 252A, which would be inserted by item 640. This amendment would be necessary because item 640 would be omitted by amendment 105. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 144: Schedule 1, item 660, page 239 (lines 10 to 15)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">89. Amendment 144 would omit new clause 80. New clause 80 would allow the FWC to consider, in the 18-month period before an application for an exclusion order under section 178C, any court findings that the relevant person has contravened a civil remedy provision of the FW Act or committed an offence against the FW Act, whether a finding was made before, or after, the commencement of the section. This amendment is necessary because item 644, which would insert new section 178C, would be omitted by amendment 118. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 146: Schedule 1, item 660, page 239 (after line 26), after Division 17</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">90. Amendment 146 would insert a new Division 17A providing that new subsection 186(2B) applies if the agreement or variation is made after the commencement of Part 23A. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">National Construction Industry Forum</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 7: Clause 2, page 5 (after table item 32)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">91. This amendment would provide that new Part 25A—Establishment of the National Construction Industry Forum would commence on 1 July 2023.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 129: Schedule 1, page 228 (after line 26), after Part 25</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">92. This amendment would insert new 'Part 25A—Establishment of the National Construction Industry Forum' into the Bill. New Part 25A would amend the FW Act by inserting a new 'Part 6-4D—The National Construction Industry Forum' into Chapter 6 and making consequential amendments to section 12 (definitions). </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">93. Item 659A of new Part 25A would amend section 12 of the FW Act to insert definitions of 'Industry Minister' and 'Infrastructure Minister'. These amendments are consequential to the amendments made by item 659B.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">94. Item 659B would insert a new Part 6-4D into the FW Act to establish the Forum as a statutory advisory body chaired by the Minister. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">95. The function of the Forum, contained in new section 789GZD, would give the Forum a broad remit to provide advice to the Government on matters relating to work in the building and construction industry that are either raised by Government or agreed by the members. New subsection 789GZD(2) would provide a non-exhaustive list of matters that the Forum may provide advice on. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">96. The membership of the Forum would be governed by new section 789GZE, which would provide that the Minister, the Industry Minister (Minister administering the <span style="font-style:italic;">Australian </span><span style="font-style:italic;">Jobs Act 2013</span>) and the Infrastructure Minister (Minister administering the <span style="font-style:italic;">Infrastructure Australia Act 2008</span>) are members of the Forum, along with the members appointed by the Minister. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">97. New subsection 789GZE(2) would require the Minister to appoint one or more members who have experience representing employees in the building and construction industry, and an equal number of members who have experience representing employers in the building and construction industry, including at least one member who has experience representing contractors in the building and construction industry. This is to ensure equal representation by employee and employer/contractor representatives on the Forum. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">98. New subsection 789GZE(3) would give the Minister a broad discretion to also appoint other persons as members of the Forum, which might include relevant statutory appointees, representatives of community groups (e.g. disability or women's representative groups) or other persons with experience relevant to the functions of the Forum. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">99. Appointments to the Forum would be on a part-time basis and for an initial period of up to three years (section 789GZF). A note explains that a member would be eligible for reappointment at the end of their term.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">100. None of the members of the Forum would be entitled to receive any additional payments or allowances in respect of their membership of the forum, with the exception that a member who is not a Minister or a member of the Parliament would be entitled to receive travel allowance to attend meetings at the rate prescribed by the regulations (new section 789GZM). New subsection 789GZM(3) would make it clear that section 789GZM does not affect any entitlements of a Minister or a member of the Parliament under the <span style="font-style:italic;">Parliamentary Busine</span><span style="font-style:italic;">ss Resources Act 2017</span>.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">101. Members would be required to disclose material personal interests related to matters being considered by the Forum and must not participate in any part of a meeting during which the matter is dealt with (new section 789GZP). </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">102. Appointed members could resign by giving the Chair a written resignation (new section 789GZN) and could have their appointment terminated by the Minister on the grounds of misbehaviour, incapacity, bankruptcy etc., loss of position or qualification that formed the basis of the reason for their appointment, failure to comply with confidentiality or interest disclosure obligations or absence from three consecutive meetings without the approval of the Chair (new section 789GZQ). </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">103. New section 789GZG would provide that the Minister is the Chair of the Forum. However, if the Minister is unable to preside at a meeting, or considers it appropriate to do so for any other reason, the Minister may nominate another Minister to preside at that meeting and the relevant Minister would be permitted to do so.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">104. The Chair would be required by new section 789GZH to convene at least two meetings of the Forum per calendar year, once in the first six months, and once in the second six months, with the timing of meetings to be determined by the Chair in consultation with the members. New subsection 789GZH(4) would make it clear that the procedure to be followed at Forum meetings is to be determined by the Chair in consultation with the members.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">105. New section 789GZK would provide that if any member of the Forum is unable to attend a meeting, they would be permitted to nominate a person to attend in their place and, if the Chair agrees, that person may attend the meeting as a substitute member. The substitute member would have all the rights and responsibilities of a member at, and in respect of, the meeting, including disclosure of interest and confidentiality obligations.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">106. After consulting with the other members of the Forum, the Chair would be permitted to invite a person, body or organisation that is not a member to participate in a particular meeting and could terminate that invitation at any time. An invited participant would be entitled to receive travel allowance as if the person was a member. However, the participation of a person in a meeting does not make that person a member (new section 789GZL).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">107. All members, substitute members and invited participants would be subject to an obligation to keep views expressed during meetings confidential, but this would not prevent members from reporting to the persons, bodies or organisations they represent or from making announcements the members agree are in the public interest (new section 789GZJ).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Functions under the RO Act</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 8: Schedule 1, item 5, page 7 (line 12)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 9: Schedule 1, item 6, page 8 (lines 15 to 24)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">108. These amendments would amend item 6 of the Bill to omit proposed new section 329B of the FW Act, which would have empowered the Minister to give directions of a general nature to the General Manager in relation to the performance of their functions under the RO Act. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">109. Removing this power would acknowledge the independence of the General Manager in their capacity as the regulator of registered organisations.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">110. The amendments would also consequentially amend item 5 of the Bill to remove the reference to Ministerial directions to the General Manager that would have been inserted into the simplified outline to Part 1 of Chapter 11 of the RO Act.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Prohibiting sexual harassment in connec</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">tion with work</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 10: Schedule 1, item 393, page 96 (after line 25), after section 527C</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">111. This amendment would insert clause 527CA into new Part 3-5A of the FW Act. Part 3-5A would be inserted by Part 8 of Schedule 1 to the Bill and would prohibit sexual harassment in connection with work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">112. Clause 527CA is intended to preserve the concurrent operation of State and Territory laws dealing with sexual harassment and addresses potential interaction issues that may arise because of section 109 of the Constitution.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">113. Section 109 of the Constitution renders inoperative a State law to the extent that it is inconsistent with a Commonwealth law. If the Commonwealth law is interpreted as operating to the exclusion of a State law, the State law will be interpreted as inconsistent with the Commonwealth law. While section 109 of the Constitution does not apply to Territory laws, similar principles apply in relation to the inconsistency of Territory laws with Commonwealth laws.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">114. Clause 527CA is intended to be used in interpreting the operation and effect of new Part 3-5A. It would indicate Parliament's intention that State and Territory laws dealing with sexual harassment can operate concurrently with Part 3-5A. This includes State and Territory anti-discrimination laws, workplace relations laws, occupational health and safety laws, and criminal laws.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">115. Subclause 527CA(1) would provide that Part 3-5A does not exclude or limit the operation of a law of a State or Territory that is capable of operating concurrently with the Part. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">116. Subclauses 527CA(2) and (3) would provide examples of State and Territory laws that could operate concurrently with Part 3-5A, without limiting the general rule in subclause 527CA(1).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">117. Subclause 527CA(2) would clarify that Part 3-5A would not exclude or limit the concurrent operation of a State or Territory law that makes an act or omission an offence, or subject to a civil penalty, where that act or omission (or any similar act or omission) would also constitute a contravention of Part 3-5A. For example, this would enable the concurrent operation of prohibitions on workplace sexual harassment in State or Territory anti-discrimination law or State or Territory laws criminalising sexual assault. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">There are existing provisions that deal with the interaction between civil proceedings under the FW Act and criminal proceedings under State, Territory or Commonwealth laws (sections 552-556 of the FW Act). </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">118. Subclause 527CA(3) would clarify that Part 3-5A does not exclude or limit the concurrent operation of a State or Territory law that allows an application to be made to a person, court or body for an order, or any other direction (however described), to prevent sexual harassment, or to deal with a dispute about sexual harassment. For example, this would preserve the concurrent operation of State or Territory laws that enable a tribunal to issue a stop sexual harassment order.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">119. It would be irrelevant whether sexual harassment has a different meaning for the purposes of the State or Territory law to the meaning used in the FW Act, or whether the State or Territory law describes the conduct as sexual harassment. For example, State or Territory laws that deal with sexual harassment would be preserved, even if they use a different definition of sexual harassment to the definition that applies for the purposes of the FW Act. State and Territory laws would also be preserved even if they do not specifically apply to sexual harassment. For example, if sexual harassment also constitutes bullying, then a State or Territory law allowing orders to be made to prevent bullying could operate despite Part 3-5A.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">120. A new legislative note would alert the reader that new section 734B, which would be inserted by Part 8 of Schedule 1 to the Bill, would generally prevent multiple applications or complaints under both the FW Act and State and Territory anti-discrimination laws in relation to the same conduct. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">121. However, multiple orders covering the same conduct could be made at both the State or Territory and Commonwealth levels, for example, to stop workplace sexual harassment from continuing. In that circumstance, another legislative note would alert the reader that, due to the operation of section 109 of the Constitution, the order made under the FW Act would prevail to the extent of any inconsistency. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">122. Subclause 527CA(4) would clarify that section 26 of the FW Act has effect subject to clause 527CA. This would indicate Parliament's intention that section 26 does not exclude State or Territory laws to the extent they are preserved by clause 527CA. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 11: Schedule 1, item 393, page 97 (after line 26), before subsection 527E(1)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 12: Schedule 1, item 393, page 98 (after line 3), after subsection 527E(2)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 13: Schedule 1, item 393, page 98 (after line 3), before subsection 527E(3)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 14: Schedule 1, item 393, page 98 (line 4)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">123. These amendments would ensure that the Commonwealth can be held vicariously liable for contraventions of the new prohibition on sexual harassment by defence members in connection with the person's service as a defence member.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">124. The amendments are necessary because the existing vicarious liability provision in the Bill may not apply in relation to contraventions by defence members due to the special nature of defence service, which is not employment and also may not be an agency relationship.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">125. Consistent with the operation of the vicarious liability provision as it applies to employers and other principals, the Commonwealth would not be vicariously liable for actions of defence members if the Commonwealth proved that it took all reasonable steps to prevent the contravention. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">126. The amendments ensure consistency with the SD Act, which provides for the vicarious liability of the Commonwealth for sexual harassment perpetrated by defence members, and includes the reasonable steps exemption. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">127. The amendments would also make technical updates to the vicarious liability provision to improve the readability of the clause and clarify that the new subclause providing for the vicarious liability of the Commonwealth for acts of defence members does not limit sections 550 and 793 of the FW Act. Sections 550 and 793 deal with third party involvement in a contravention and liabilities of bodies corporate, respectively. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Flexible work</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 17: Schedule 1, item 459, page 129 (line 27)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">128. This amendment would correct a typographical error in proposed new section 65A.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">129. The non-exhaustive list of reasonable business grounds would not be changed by this proposed amendment. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 18: Schedule 1, item 459, page 130 (after line 16), at the end of subsection 65A(5)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">130. This amendment would insert a note at the end of subsection 65A(5) (which sets out a non-exhaustive list of reasonable business grounds for refusing a request for a flexible working arrangement). The note would make clear that the size and nature of the enterprise carried out by the employer is among the specific circumstances that may be considered when considering whether the employer has reasonable business grounds for refusing the request. This recognises that what is reasonable to accommodate may differ significantly between businesses, depending on their circumstances. The note also provides a relevant example. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 19: Schedule 1, item 463, page 133 (after line 25), after subsection 65C(2)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">131. This amendment would insert new subsection 65C(2A) into the Act, which would clarify that the FWC cannot make an order:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">to ensure compliance with the procedural requirements in new section 65A (proposed new subparagraph 65C(1)(e))</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">that an employer grant a request for flexible working arrangements (proposed new subparagraph 65C(1)(f)(i)), or</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">than an employer make specified changes to an employee's working arrangements to accommodate their circumstances (proposed new subparagraph 65C(1)(f)(ii)),</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">that would be inconsistent with a provision of the Act or a fair work instrument that applies to the employee and employer (other than a previous order made by the FWC under these provisions). This amendment is modelled on existing subsection 739(5), which applies to FWC consent arbitration. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">132. One situation in which this may arise is where a fair work instrument provides for rates of pay, penalty rates or other conditions that apply to certain patterns of work. An order of the FWC may not be inconsistent with or less favourable than those provisions. For example, an enterprise agreement may provide that firefighters working non-standard roster patterns get paid at the same rate as firefighters working on a 10/14 shift roster. An order of the FWC could not provide for a rate of pay for the non-standard roster pattern that was inconsistent with this requirement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">133. 'Fair work instrument' is defined in section 12 to include a modern award, enterprise agreement, workplace determination or an FWC order.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Terminating an enterprise agreement</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 20: Schedule 1, item 471, page 136 (after line 3)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">134. New subsection 226(1) of the FW Act would provide that the FWC must (on application) terminate an enterprise agreement that has passed its nominal expiry date if satisfied that any of three grounds have been met. Broadly, the grounds for termination relate to the continued operation of the agreement being unfair for employees, the agreement being unlikely to cover any employees, or the continued operation of the agreement posing a significant threat to the viability of a business (subject to certain other requirements and safeguards for employees having been met).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">135. This amendment would insert new subsection 226(1A), which provides that the FWC must terminate the enterprise agreement under subsection 226(1) only if satisfied that it is appropriate in all the circumstances to do so (provided that the criteria in subsection 226(1) are met). </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">136. </span>Building this further discretion into the test would better enable the FWC to take into consideration the views of the parties, the impact on any bargaining for a replacement agreement that is occurring, and any other relevant matters (in accordance with new subsections 226(3), (4) and (5)).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">"Zombie" agreements</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 21: Schedule 1, item 481, page 145 (after line 9), after subitem 20A(10)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 22: Schedule 1, item 482, page 148 (after line 30), after subitem 26A(10)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 23: Schedule 1, item 483, page 151 (after line 28), after subitem 30(9)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">137. Amendments 21, 22 and 23 would insert new subitems 20A(10A)-(10C) of Schedule 3, 26A(10A)-(10C) of Schedule 3A, and 30(9A)-(9B) of Schedule 7 into the FW Transitional Act. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">138. These new subitems would:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">require the FWC to publish its decisions to extend (or not extend) a zombie agreement;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">require the FWC to publish any written reasons in relation to such decisions (subject to any order restricting the publication of confidential information made pursuant to section 594 of the FW Act);</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">require the FWC to publish the zombie agreement/instrument if the decision is to extend a collective zombie agreement (i.e. a collective agreement-based transitional instrument, collective Division 2B State employment agreement, or an enterprise agreement made during the 'bridging period' from 1 July-31 December 2009);</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">provide that the FWC must not publish any individual zombie agreement in relation to which an application for an extension has been made.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">139. In respect of the publication of a collective zombie agreement, the FWC may consider that the details of signatories to the agreement do not form part of the agreement and are therefore not required to be published.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Single interest employer authorisations </span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 24: Schedule 1, item 489, page 155 (line 8)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 25: Schedule 1, item 490, page 155 (lines 13 to 14)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 41: Schedule 1, item 523, page 162 (lines 11 to 12)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 54: Schedule 1, item 543, page 174 (line 13)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 82: Schedule 1, item 627, page 201 (lines 3 to 8)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">140. Under paragraph 172(5)(c) of the FW Act, employers that are specified in a single interest employer authorisation that is in operation in relation to a proposed enterprise agreement are single interest employers. The proposed enterprise agreement made in reliance on that authorisation is a single enterprise agreement. These amendments would make consequential changes to various provisions of the FW Act to reflect the repeal of the term 'single interest employers' in subsection 172(5) of the FW Act and the change to an enterprise agreement made in reliance on a single interest employer authorisation from being a single enterprise agreement to a multi-enterprise agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">141. Amendment 24 would amend item 489 of the Bill to omit the word "certain" from the amended heading to section 173(1) of the FW Act. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">142. Amendment 25 would amend item 490 of the Bill by omitting the words "or an agreement in relation to which a single interest employer authorisation is in operation" from the amended subsection 173(1) of the FW Act. Amendments 24 and 25 would make clear that only employers for single enterprise agreements, including related employers, need to take all reasonable steps to give notice of the right to be represented by a bargaining representative to employees who will be covered by the agreement and are employed at the notification time for the agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">143. Amendment 41 would amend item 523 of the Bill to omit the words "or an agreement in relation to which a single interest employer authorisation is in operation" from new subsection 173(2A) of the FW Act (which sets out when a bargaining representative of an employee who will be covered by a proposed single-enterprise agreement may give the employer who will be covered by the proposed agreement a request in writing to bargain for the agreement). This amendment is consequential on an agreement made in reliance on a single interest employer authorisation being classified as a multi-enterprise agreement. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">144. Amendment 54 would amend item 543 of the Bill by inserting the word "single interest employer authorisation" after the word "authorisation" in new subsection 234(2) of the FW Act. This would make clear that an intractable bargaining declaration may be made in relation to a proposed multi-enterprise agreement where a supported bargaining authorisation or a single interest employer authorisation is in operation in relation to the agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">145. Amendment 82 would omit item 627 of the Bill and insert new items 627 and 627A-C. New item 627 would insert a new definition of single interest employer agreement into the Dictionary in section 12 of the FW Act. The definition would provide that a multi-enterprise agreement is a single interest employer agreement if a single interest employer authorisation was in operation in relation to the agreement immediately before the agreement was made. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">146. New item 627A would update the guide to Part 2-4 of the FW Act to remove the sentence which specifies that the effect of a single interest authorisation is that the employers specified in the authorisation are single interest employers in relation to a proposed agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">147. New item 627B would amend subsections 172(2) and (3) of the FW Act to omit references to the term "single interest employers" and substitute them with "related employers". </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">148. New item 627C would repeal subsection 172(5) which specifies when two or more employers are single interest employers. The item would then insert new subsections 172(5) and (5A). New subsection 172(5) would provide that despite any other provision of Part 2-4, if an employer is specified in a single interest employer authorisation that is in operation, the only kind of enterprise agreement the employer may make with their employees who are specified in the authorisation is a single interest employer agreement, and the employer must not initiate bargaining, agree to bargain, or be required to bargain with those employees for any other kind of enterprise agreement. New subsection 172(5A) would provide that two or more employers are related employers if the employers are engaged in a joint venture or common enterprise; or the employers are related bodies corporate. These employers will continue to make single-enterprise agreements.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">149. The combined effect of Amendment 82 is that the concept of single interest employers will be removed from the FW Act. Only an employer, or two or more employers that are related employers may make a single enterprise agreement with relevant employees and one or more relevant employee organisations. Two or more employers that are not all related employers may make a multi-enterprise agreement with relevant employees and one or more relevant employee organisations. This means that employers that are specified in a single interest employer authorisation that is in operation in relation to a proposed enterprise will ultimately make a type of multi-enterprise agreement (a single interest employer agreement) with the relevant employees and employee organisations, subject to the transitional arrangements.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 83: Schedule 1, item 629, page 201 (line 24)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 85: Schedule 1, item 629, page 203 (line 14)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">150. These amendments would make technical updates to new paragraphs 216D(1)(b) and 216DB(1)(b) which sit within new Subdivision AD—Variation of single interest employer agreement to add employer and employees, within Division 7 of Part 2-4 of the FW Act (to be inserted by item 629 of the Bill). These amendments would insert the words "by the employer" after the word "employed" in these paragraphs to make clear that only employees who are employed by the employer are the 'affected employees' for a variation of a single interest employer agreement under these provisions.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 86: Schedule 1, item 629, page 204 (line 3) to page 205 (line 15)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">151. Amendment 86 would omit new subsections 216DC(1) to (3) of the FW Act, to be inserted by item 629 of the Bill. The amendment would insert a new section 216DC into the FW Act. New section 216DC would more clearly delineate the requirements of which the FWC must be satisfied before approving a variation of a single interest employer agreement to cover a new employer and its employees depending on whether the application for the variation was made by the employer and its employees, or an employee organisation. It would also clarify the requirements of which the FWC must be satisfied depending on whether the single interest employer agreement covers common interest employers or franchisees. The term 'common interest employers' would be introduced by these amendments and used to identify those single interest employers who are not franchisees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Approval of variat</span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">ion by the FWC</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">152. New subsection 216DC(1) would provide that the FWC must approve a variation of a single interest employer agreement if two criteria are met. The first is that an application for approval of the variation has been made under section 216DA (application by employer) or 216DB (application by employee organisation). The second criterion is met when the FWC is satisfied of three additional matters. These are:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employers and any employee organisations covered by the agreement have had an opportunity to express to the FWC their views (if any) on the application; </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">either:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the application was made by an employer under section 216DA and the variation has been genuinely agreed to by the affected employees in accordance with section 216DD (which sets out the requirements for genuine agreement); or</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">if the application was made by an employee organisation under section 216DB—the requirements of subsection (1A) are met (subsection (1A) sets out additional requirements that must be met if the application has been made by an employee organisation); and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the requirements of either subsection (2) (which deals with franchisees) or (3) (which deals with common interest employers) are met.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Additional requirements for application by employee organisation</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">153. If the application for variation was made by an employee organisation under new paragraph 216DC(1)(b)(iii), the requirements of new subsection 216DC(1A) must be met. New subsection 216DC(1A) would provide that the requirements of this subsection are met if:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employer covered by the agreement is not a small business employer; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">a majority of the affected employees want to be covered by the agreement (new subsection (1B) would outline how the FWC may work out whether a majority of the affected employees want to be covered); and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">subsection (1C) does not apply to the employer (new subsection (1C) would set out the circumstances in which employers are precluded from being compelled into being covered by a single interest employer agreement).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">154. New subsection 216DC(1B) would provide that for the purposes of paragraph (1A)(b), the FWC may work out whether a majority of the affected employees want to be covered by the agreement using any method the FWC considers appropriate.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">155. For the purposes of new paragraph 216DC(1A)(c), the FWC must approve a variation of a single interest employer agreement to cover a new employer and its employees where the application has been made by an employee organisation and subsection (1C) does not apply to the employer. Subsection 216DC(1C) will apply to the employer if: </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employer and the affected employees are covered by another enterprise agreement that has not passed its nominal expiry date at the time that the FWC will approve the variation; or</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employer and an employee organisation that is entitled to represent the industrial interests of one or more of the affected employees have agreed in writing to bargain for a proposed single-enterprise agreement that would cover the employer and the affected employees or substantially the same group of the affected employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Franchisees</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">156. New subparagraph 216DC(1)(b)(iv) would provide that the FWC must approve a variation of a single interest employer agreement to cover a new employer and its employees if the requirements of subsections 216DC(2) or (3) are met. Subsection 216DC(2) would prescribe the requirements that are to be met for employers who are franchisees. The requirements of this subsection would be met if the employers covered by the agreement and the employer that will be covered by the agreement carry on similar business activities under the same franchise and are:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">franchisees of the same franchisor; or</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">related bodies corporate of the same franchisor; or</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">any combination of the above.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Common interest employers</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">157. Subsection 216DC(3) would prescribe the requirements that are to be met for employers who are common interest employers. This term is used to identify single interest employers who are not franchisees (see above). The requirements of this subsection would be met if it is appropriate to approve the variation, having regard to:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">whether the employers covered by the agreement and the employer that will be covered by the agreement have clearly identifiable common interests (subsection 3A sets out matters that may be relevant to determining whether the employers have a common interest); and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">whether it would be contrary to the public interest to approve the variation.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">158. For example, employers specified in a supported bargaining authorisation would not meet the public interest criterion as proposed subsection 172(7)(a) provides that the only kind of enterprise agreement the employer may make with their employees who are specified in the authorisation is a supported bargaining agreement. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">159. In performing its functions or exercising its powers generally under the FW Act, the FWC is required to have regard to the objects of the FW Act and the objects of any relevant Part of the FW Act (in existing section 578(a)). For example, when considering whether it would be contrary to the public interest to approve the variation, the FWC would have regard to the objects of the FW Act (contained in section 3), such as whether making the variation will promote productivity and economic growth while being fair to working Australians, and the objects of Part 2-4 (contained in section 171), such as whether approving the variation promotes collective bargaining in good faith, particularly at the enterprise level. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">160. New subsection 216DC(3A) would provide that or the purposes of paragraph (3)(a), matters that may be relevant to determining whether the employers have a common interest include the following:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">geographical location;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">regulatory regime;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the nature of the enterprises to which the agreement relates, and the terms and conditions of employment in those enterprises.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">161. When considering the nature of the enterprises, factors such as the relative size and scope of the enterprises would be relevant. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Employers and employees that are already bargaining</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">162. Subsection 216DC(3B) would provide that despite new subsection 249(1), the FWC may refuse to approve the variation if the FWC is satisfied that the employer, or a bargaining representative of the employer, and an employee organisation that is entitled to represent the industrial interests of one or more of the affected employees have agreed that:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employer is bargaining in good faith for a proposed enterprise agreement that will cover the employer and the affected employees, or substantially the same group of the affected employees; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employer has a history of effectively bargaining in relation to one or more enterprise agreements that have covered the employer and the affected employees, or substantially the same group of the affected employees; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">on the day that the FWC will approve the variation, less than 6 months have passed since the most recent nominal expiry date of an agreement for which the parties have effectively bargained.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">163. For the purposes of paragraph 216DC(3B)(b), an employer is likely to have a history of effectively bargaining in relation to one or more enterprise agreements if one or more of those resulting enterprise agreements provided for terms and conditions that were more than a marginal improvement on those contained in the relevant award (i.e. they must do more than simply pass the BOOT).The requirement would operate so that only enterprise agreements that provide genuine benefits to both the employer/s and their relevant employees would be relevant to the FWC's decision to exercise its discretion not to vary the agreement to add the employer and its relevant employees. This discretion would not need to be relied upon where the parties have agreed (in writing) to bargain for a single-enterprise agreement as these parties would be excluded under proposed section 216DC(1C)(b).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">164. Overall, new subsection 216DC(3B) would provide the FWC discretion to refuse an application for a variation of a single interest employer agreement to cover a new employer and its employees, even if the requirements in subsection 216DC(1) are met, if the FWC is satisfied that the variation should not be made having regard to current bargaining. The subsection would uphold and respect the ability of an employer to bargain with affected employees in appropriate circumstances. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 89: Schedule 1, item 629, page 205 (line 26) </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 93: Schedule 1, item 629, page 206 (line 20)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">165. These amendments would make a consequential update to new subsection 216DD, to be inserted by item 629 of the Bill, to replace the references to paragraph 216DC(1)(d) with references to subparagraph 216DC(1)(b)(ii) (which now provides that for circumstances in which the FWC must be satisfied that the variation has been genuinely agreed to).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 94: Schedule 1, page 207 (after line 8), after item 629</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">166. Amendment 94 would insert new item 629A into the Bill. New item 629A would amend subsection 229(2) of the FW Act by inserting the words "single interest employer authorisation" after the word "authorisation". Section 229 of the FW Act sets out when applications can be made for bargaining orders. This amendment is consequential on the change in classification for these agreements to multi-enterprise agreements and would extend the availability of bargaining orders to a proposed multi-enterprise agreement where a single interest employer authorisation is in operation. This would effectively preserve the status quo.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 95: Schedule 1, page 207 (after line 13), after item 630</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">167. Amendment 95 would insert new items 630A and 630B into the Bill. Existing subsection 238(2) of the FW Act prohibits a bargaining representative applying for a scope order if a single interest employer authorisation is in operation. New item 630A would repeal subsection 238(2) of the FW Act to reflect the fact that a single interest employer agreement will be a multi-enterprise agreement and that scope orders only remain available for proposed single enterprise agreements (other than greenfields agreements). This would effectively preserve the status quo.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">168. Existing section 240(2) of the FW Act provides that a bargaining representative for a proposed enterprise agreement that is either a single enterprise agreement or a multi-enterprise agreement in relation to which a low paid authorisation is in operation, may apply to the FWC unilaterally (without agreement of the other bargaining representatives) for the FWC to deal with a bargaining dispute about the proposed agreement. New item 630B would insert a new subsection 240(2)(c) to provide that a unilateral application for the FWC to deal with a bargaining dispute may also be made if the proposed agreement is a multi-enterprise agreement in relation to which a single interest employer authorisation is in operation.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 96: Schedule 1, item 633, page 207 (lines 27 to 32)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">169. Amendment 96 would omit Notes 1 and 2 from new subsection 248(1) of the FW Act, to be inserted by item 633 of the Bill. Note 1 provided that the effect of a single interest employer authorisation is that the employers are single interest employers in relation to the agreement. The repeal of this Note 1 is consequential on the change of a single interest employer agreement to a multi-enterprise agreement. Note 2 provided that a person cannot be a bargaining representative if they are excluded for the purposes of the agreement by an order under new section 178C. The repeal of Note 2 is consequential on the replacement of section 178C by another amendment(see new Part 23A). </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 97: Schedule 1, page 207 (after line 32), after item 633</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">170. Amendment 97 would insert new item 633A into the Bill. New item 633A would repeal subsection 249(1) and substitute it with new subsection 249(1), which sets out when the FWC must make a single interest employer authorisation. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">171. New subsection 249(1) would delineate the requirements of which the FWC must be satisfied before making a single interest employer authorisation depending on whether the application for the authorisation was made by the employer and its employees, or an employee organisation. It would also clarify the requirements of which the FWC must be satisfied depending on whether the single interest employer authorisation is to operate in respect of two or more common interest employers or franchisees. The term 'common interest employers' would be introduced by these amendments and used to identify those single interest employers who are not franchisees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Single interest em</span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">ployer authorisation</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">172. New subsection 249(1) would provide that the FWC must make a single interest employer authorisation in relation to a proposed enterprise agreement if an application for the authorisation has been made and the FWC is satisfied that all of the following requirements are met:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">at least some of the employees that will be covered by the agreement are represented by an employee organisation; </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employers and the bargaining representatives of the employees of those employers have had the opportunity to express to the FWC their views (if any) on the authorisation; </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">either:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the application was made by 2 or more employers under paragraph 248(1)(a)—the requirements set out in new subsection (1A) are met (new subsection (1A) sets out additional requirements that must be met if the application for the authorisation has been made by two or more employers); or</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the application was made by a bargaining representative under paragraph 248(1)(b)- each employer has either </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">consented to the application; or </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">is covered by new subsection (1B) (new subsection (1B) sets out additional requirements that must be met if the application has been made by a bargaining representative of an employee who will be covered by the agreement), and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the requirements of either subsection (2) or subsection (3) (which deal with franchisees and common interest employers respectively) are met.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Additional requirements for application by employers</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">173. If the application for a single interest employer authorisation was made by two or more employers, under paragraph 248(1)(a), new subparagraph 249(1)(b)(iii) would provide that the requirements of new subsection 249(1A) must be met. New subsection 249(1A) would provide that the requirements of this subsection are met if:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employers that will be covered by the agreement have agreed to bargain together; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">no person coerced, or threatened to coerce, any of the employers to agree to bargain together.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Additional requirements for application by bargaining representative</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">174. If the application for a single interest employer authorisation was made by a bargaining representative under paragraph 248(1)(b), new subparagraph 249(1)(b)(iv) would provide that each employer must have either consented to the application, or be covered by new subsection (1B). New subsection 249(1B) would provide that an employer is covered by this subsection if: </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employer is not a small business employer; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employer has not made an application for a single interest employer authorisation that has not yet been decided in relation to the employees that will be covered by the agreement; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employer is not named in a single interest employer authorisation or supported bargaining authorisation in relation to the employees that will be covered by the agreement; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">a majority of the employees who are employed by the employer at a time determined by the FWC and who will be covered by the agreement want to bargain for the agreement (new subsection (1C) would outline how the FWC may work out whether a majority of the affected employees want to be covered); and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">new subsection (1D) does not apply to the employer (new subsection (1D) would set out the circumstances in which employers are precluded from being compelled into a single interest employer authorisation). </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">175. New subsection 249(1C) would provide that for the purposes of new paragraph (1B)(d), the FWC may work out whether a majority of employees want to bargain using any method the FWC considers appropriate.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">176. New paragraph 249(1B)(e) would provide that an employer is covered by new subsection 249(1B) if new subsection (1D) does not apply to the employer. New subsection 249(1D) sets out criteria that will preclude an employer being compelled into a single interest employer authorisation (on application by a bargaining representative of an employee). New subsection 249(1D) applies to an employer if:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employer and the employees of the employer that will be covered by the agreement are covered by an enterprise agreement that has not passed its nominal expiry date at the time that the FWC will make the authorisation; or</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employer and an employee organisation that is entitled to represent the industrial interests of one or more of the affected employees have agreed in writing to bargain for a proposed single-enterprise agreement that would cover the employer and the affected employees or substantially the same group of the affected employees</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 98: Schedule 1, item 634, page 208 (line 1) to page 209 (line 22)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">177. Amendment 98 would omit item 634 of the Bill (which repealed subsection 249(3) of the FW Act and substituted it with new subsections 249(3) and (3A)-(3D)). Amendment 98 would then insert new items 634 and 634A into the Bill.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">178. New item 634 would omit the words "if the FWC is satisfied that" from subsection 249(2) of the FW Act which sets out when employers are franchisees when applying for a single interest employer authorisation.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">179. New item 634A would repeal subsection 249(3) (employers that may bargain together for an agreement) and substitutes it with new subsections 249(3) and (3A). New subsection 249(3) would provide that the requirements of this subsection are met if:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employers have clearly identifiable common interests; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">it is not contrary to the public interest to make the authorisation. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">180. For example, employers specified in a supported bargaining authorisation (in respect of the same employees) would not meet the public interest criterion as new subsection 172(7)(b) provides that the employer must not initiate bargaining, agree to bargain or be required to bargain with employees specified in the supported bargaining authorisation for any other kind of enterprise agreement. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">181. In performing its functions or exercising its powers generally under the FW Act, the FWC is required to have regard to the objects of the FW Act and the objects of any relevant Part of the FW Act (in existing section 578(a)). For example, when considering whether it would be contrary to the public interest to approve the variation, the FWC would have regard to the objects of the FW Act (contained in section 3), such as whether making the variation will promote productivity and economic growth while being fair to working Australians, and the objects of Part 2-4 (contained in section 171), such as whether approving the variation promotes collective bargaining in good faith, particularly at the enterprise level.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">182. New subsection 249(3A) would provide that for the purposes of paragraph (3)(a), matters that may be relevant to determining whether the employers have a common interest include the following:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">geographical location;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">regulatory regime;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the nature of the enterprises to which the agreement will relate, and the terms and conditions of employment in those enterprises.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">183. When considering the nature of the enterprises, factors such as the relative size and scope of the enterprises would be relevant. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 99: Schedule 1, item 635, page 209 (line 24)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">184. Amendment 99 would amend item 635 of the Bill. Item 635 of the Bill would amend existing subparagraph 249(4)(b)(i) of the FW Act to provide that a single interest employer authorisation ceases to be in operation at the earlier of the following:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">at the same time as the enterprise agreement to which the authorisation relates is made; or</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">12 months (or a longer period if extended) after the day on which the authorisation is made.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">185. Item 635 would omit the words 'day on which' from subparagraph 249(4)(b)(i) of the FW Act and substitutes them with 'at the same time as'. The subparagraph as set out in the Bill would therefore read as 'the at the same time as the enterprise agreement to which the authorisation is made'. The remaining 'the' at the start of the subparagraph creates a grammatical error. This amendment would correct the grammatical error. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 101: Schedule 1, item 636, page 209 (line 25) to page 210 (line 6)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">186. Amendment 101 would omit item 636 of the Bill (which would insert new section 249A of the FW Act) and substitute it with new items 636 and 636A of the Bill. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">187. New item 636 of the Bill would amend subsection 250(2) of the FW Act by omitting the words "employers that may bargain together for a proposed enterprise agreement" and substituting them with "common interest employers". Amended subsection 250(2) of the FW Act would provide that if the FWC is satisfied of the matters specified in subsection 249(2) or (3) (which deal with franchisees and common interest employers) in relation to only some of the employers that will be covered by the agreement, the FWC may make a single interest employer authorisation specifying those employers and their employees only. The term 'common interest employers' would be introduced by these amendments and used to identify those single interest employers who are not franchisees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">188. New item 636A would insert new subsections 250(3) and (4). New subsection 250(3) would provide that the FWC may make a single interest employer authorisation that does not specify one or more employers specified in an application for the authorisation, and the employees (the relevant employees) of those employers specified in that application, if the FWC is satisfied that:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employers are bargaining in good faith for a proposed enterprise agreement that will cover the employers and the relevant employees, or substantially the same group of the relevant employees; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employers and the relevant employees have a history of effectively bargaining in relation to one or more enterprise agreements that have covered the employers and the relevant employees, or substantially the same group of the relevant employees; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">on the day that the FWC will make the authorisation, less than 6 months have passed since the most recent nominal expiry date of an agreement for which the parties have effectively bargained. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">189. For the purposes of paragraph 250(3)(b), an employer is likely to have a history of effectively bargaining in relation to one or more enterprise agreements if one or more of those resulting enterprise agreements provided for terms and conditions that were more than a marginal improvement on those contained in the relevant award (i.e. they must do more than simply pass the BOOT). The requirement would operate so that only enterprise agreements that provide genuine benefits to both the employer/s and their relevant employees would be relevant to the FWC's decision to exercise its discretion not to vary the agreement to add the employer and its relevant employees. This discretion would not need to be relied upon where the parties have agreed (in writing) to bargain for a single-enterprise agreement as these parties would be excluded under new section 249(1D)(b).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">190. Overall, new subsection 250(3) would provide the FWC discretion to refuse an application for a single interest employer authorisation, even if the requirements in new subsection 249(1) are met, if the FWC is satisfied that the authorisation should not be made having regard to current bargaining. The subsection would uphold and respect the ability of an employer to bargain with relevant employees in appropriate circumstances. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">191. New subsection 250(4) would provide that, if the effect of subsection (3) is that no employers would be specified in the authorisation, the FWC may refuse the application for the authorisation. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 103: Schedule 1, items 638 and 639, page 210 (line 30) to page 212 (line 17)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">192. Amendment 103 would omit items 638 and 639 of the Bill (which would have amended existing subsections 251(3) and (4) which enable applications to be made to add or remove an employer from a single interest employer authorisation). Amendment 102 would then insert new item 638 into the Bill. New item 638 would substitute them with new subsections 251(3)-(8).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Variation to add employer</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">193. New subsection 251(3) would provide that the following may apply to the FWC for a variation of a single interest employer authorisation to add the name of an employer (the new employer) that is not specified in the authorisation to the authorisation:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the new employer;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">person who is a bargaining representative:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">for the proposed enterprise agreement to which the authorisation relates; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">of an employee of the new employer.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">194. New subsection 251(4) would provide that the FWC must vary the authorisation to add the new employer's name if an application for the variation has been made and the FWC is satisfied of all of the following:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employers specified in the authorisation and the bargaining representatives of the employees of those employers have had an opportunity to express to the FWC their views (if any) on the application; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">either</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the application was made by the new employer under paragraph 251(3)(a) and no person coerced, or threatened to coerce, the new employer to make the application; or</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the application was made by a bargaining representative under paragraph 251(3)(b) and the requirements of subsection (5) are met (subsection 251(5) sets out additional requirements that apply for employers where an application to vary a single interest employer authorisation is made by a bargaining representative of an employee); and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the requirements of subsection 249(2) or (3) (which deal with franchisees and common interest employers respectively) would continue to be met if the new employer's name were added.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Additional requirements for application by bargaining representative</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">195. Pursuant to new subparagraph 251(4)(b)(iii), if an application to add an employer to a single interest employer authorisation is made by a bargaining representative of an employee, the FWC must be satisfied that the requirements in new subsection 251(5) are met before varying the authorisation. The requirements of new subsection 251(5) are met if:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the new employer is not a small business employer; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the new employer has not made an application for a single interest employer authorisation that has not yet been decided in relation to the employees that will be covered by the agreement; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the new employer is not named in a single interest employer authorisation or supported bargaining authorisation in relation to the employees that will be covered by the agreement; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">a majority of the employees who are employed by the new employer at a time determined by the FWC and who will be covered by the proposed enterprise agreement want to bargain for the agreement (new subsection 251(6) would outline how the FWC may work out whether a majority of the affected employees want to be covered); and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">new subsection (7) does not apply to the employer (new subsection 251(7) provides that employers are excluded if its relevant employees are covered by an enterprise agreement that has not passed its nominal expiry date or if bargaining for a proposed enterprise agreement is ongoing and certain criteria are met).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">196. New subsection 251(6) would provide that for the purposes of paragraph (5)(d), the FWC may work out whether a majority of employees want to bargain using any method the FWC considers appropriate.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">197. New subsection 251(7) would apply to an employer if:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the new employer and the employees of the new employer that will be covered by the agreement are covered by an enterprise agreement that has not passed its nominal expiry date at the time that the FWC will make the variation; or</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the employer and an employee organisation that is entitled to represent the industrial interests of one or more of the affected employees have agreed in writing to bargain for a proposed single-enterprise agreement that would cover the employer and the affected employees or substantially the same group of the affected employees</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Employers and employees that are already bargaining</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">198. New subsection 251(8) would provide that despite subsection 251(4), the FWC may refuse to vary the authorisation if the FWC is satisfied that:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the new employer is bargaining in good faith for a proposed enterprise agreement that will cover the new employer and the employees of the new employer that will be covered by the agreement, or substantially the same group of those employees; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the new employer and those employees have a history of effectively bargaining in relation to one or more enterprise agreements that have covered the new employer and those employees, or substantially the same group of those employees; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">on the day that the FWC will vary the authorisation, less than 6 months have passed since the most recent nominal expiry date of an agreement for which the parties have effectively bargained.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">199. For the purposes of new paragraph 251(8)(b), an employer is likely to have a history of effectively bargaining in relation to one or more enterprise agreements if one or more of those resulting enterprise agreements provided for terms and conditions that were more than a marginal improvement on those contained in the relevant award (i.e. they must do more than simply pass the BOOT).The requirement would operate so that only enterprise agreements that provide genuine benefits to both the employer/s and their relevant employees would be relevant to the FWC's decision to exercise its discretion not to vary the authorisation to add the employer and its relevant employees. This discretion would not need to be relied upon where the parties have agreed (in writing) to bargain for a single-enterprise agreement as these parties would be excluded under new section 251(7) but would be relevant where the parties were bargaining for a co-operative workplaces agreement, provided the other criteria were met.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">200. Overall, new subsection 251(8) would provide the FWC discretion to refuse an application to vary a single interest employer authorisation to add a new employer, even if the requirements in new subsection 251(4) are met, if the FWC is satisfied the variation should not be made having regard to current bargaining. The subsection would uphold and respect the ability of an employer to bargain with relevant employees in appropriate circumstances.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 106: Schedule 1, Part 21, page 213 (after line 19), at the end of the Part</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">201. Amendment 106 would insert new item 640A into the Bill. New item 640A would repeal subsection 477(2) of the FW Act and substitute it with new subsection 477(2).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">202. Existing subsection 477(1) of the FW Act applies if Part 3-3 of the FW Act (which sets out provisions for the taking of protected industrial action) permits an application to be made by a bargaining representative of an employer that will be covered by a proposed single-enterprise agreement. New subsection 477(2) would provide that if the agreement will cover more than one employer, the application may be made by a bargaining representative of an employer that will be covered by the agreement, on behalf of one or more other such bargaining representatives, if those other bargaining representatives have agreed to the application being made on their behalf. New subsection 477(2) reflects the change of a single interest employer agreement to a multi-enterprise agreement, but still acknowledges that a proposed single-enterprise agreement (in respect of which protected industrial action may be taken under Part 3-3 of the FW Act) may still cover two or more employers that wish to make a joint application.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 107: Schedule 1, item 641, page 214 (lines 6 to 7) </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 108: Schedule 1, item 641, page 214 (line 9)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 109: Schedule 1, item 641, page 214 (line 13)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 110: Schedule 1, item 641, page 214 (lines 20 to 26)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 111: Schedule 1, item 641, page 215 (line 18)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 112: Schedule 1, item 641, page 216 (lines 9 to 10)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 113: Schedule 1, item 641, page 216 (lines 12 to 13)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 114: Schedule 1, item 641, page 216 (line 31)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 115: Schedule 1, item 641, page 217 (lines 4 to 6)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 116: Schedule 1, item 641, page 217 (line 7)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">203. These amendments would make technical updates to new Subdivision AE of the FW Act (to be inserted by item 641 of the Bill) which would permit a single interest employer agreement or a multi-enterprise agreement to be varied to remove an employer and its employees. These amendments would amend headings and provisions in new Subdivision AE to reflect the change in treatment of a single interest employer agreement as a single-enterprise agreement, to a multi-employer agreement. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 117: Schedule 1, item 642, page 218 (line 7)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">204. Amendment 117 would amend item 642 of the Bill. Item 642 of the Bill would introduce the definition of a cooperative workplace agreement into the Dictionary in section 12 of the FW Act. Amended item 642 would provide a consequential amendment that a multi-enterprise agreement is a cooperative workplace agreement if there was no supported bargaining authorisation or single interest employer authorisation in operation in relation to the agreement immediately before the agreement was made. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 138: Schedule 1, item 660, page 237 (line 24)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">205. Amendment 138 would make an amendment to item 660 of the Bill which would insert new subclause 74(2) of Part 13 (Application, saving and transitional provisions relating to amendments to this Act) into Schedule 1 to the FW Act. The amendment would omit subclause 74(2) and substitute it with a new subclause 74(2), which would provide that despite the amendments of Division 10 of Part 2-4 made by Part 21 of Schedule 1 of the amending Act, that Division continues to apply as though the amendments had not been made. The effect of amendment 30 would be that if an application for a Ministerial declaration under subsection 247(1) of the FW Act and, immediately before the commencement of Part 21 of Schedule 1 to the amending Act, the Minister had not made a decision on the application, the existing provisions of Division 10 of Part 2-4 of the FW Act are preserved and continue to apply in relation to that application.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 139: Schedule 1, item 660, page 237 (line 28)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 140: Schedule 1, item 660, page 238 (line 16)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 141: Schedule 1, item 660, page 238 (line 19)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">206. These amendments would make technical updates to the transitional provisions in relation to single interest employer authorisations, to be inserted by item 660 of the Bill.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">207. Amendment 139 would make a technical correction to subclause 75(1) of new Part 13 (Application, saving and transitional provisions relating to amendments to this Act) of Schedule 1 to the FW Act by omitting the reference to subsection 247(1) and inserting a reference to subsection 247(3). The effect of amendment 30 would be that if a Ministerial declaration is made under subsection 247(3) of the FW Act, but immediately before the commencement of Part 21 of Schedule 1 to the Amending Act, 2 or more of the employers to whom the declaration relates had not made an application for an authorisation, the existing provisions of Division 10 of Part 2-4 of the FW Act are preserved and continue to apply to an application for an authorisation made after that commencement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">208. Amendment 140 would make a technical correction to clause 77 of new Part 13 (Application, saving and transitional provisions relating to amendments to this Act) of Schedule 1 to the FW Act by omitting the reference to subsection 249A and inserting a reference to new paragraph 172(5)(b) (which provides that if an employer is specified in a single interest employer authorisation that is in operation, the employer must not initiate bargaining, agree to bargain, or be required to bargain with the relevant employees for any other kind of enterprise agreement). </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">209. Amendment 141 would omit the words "whether the authorisation was made before" from clause 77 and substitute them with "if the authorisation was made".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">210. The effect of amendments 138 and 139 would be that new paragraph 172(5)(b) applies in relation to single interest employer authorisations on or after the commencement of Part 21 of Schedule 1 to the amending Act if the authorisation was made on or after that commencement. This would apply where authorisations are made under the new provisions of Part 21 and the provisions in new clause 78B of the new Part 13 (Application, saving and transitional provisions relating to amendments to this Act) of Schedule 1 to the FW Act do not apply.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 142: Schedule 1, item 660, page 238 (lines 21 to 29)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">211. Amendment 142 would omit clause 78 of new Part 13 (Application, saving and transitional provisions relating to amendments to this Act) of Schedule 1 to the FW Act and substitute it with new clauses 78, 78A, 78B and 78C.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">212. New clause 78 would provide that the amendments to section 251 made by Part 21 of Schedule 1 to the amending Act do not apply in relation to variations made before the commencement of that Part.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">213. New subclause 78A(1) would apply in respect of two or employers that were, immediately before the commencement of Part 21 of Schedule 1 to the amending Act, specified in a single interest employer authorisation that is in operation. New subclause 78A(2) would provide that for the purposes of section 172 of the Act, the employers are taken to be related employers within the meaning of subsection 172(5A). The effect of this new subclause would be that any single interest employer agreement made in reliance on that authorisation would be a single-enterprise agreement, as they were before the amendments in Part 21 commenced.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">214. New clause 78B would provide that if, because of the operation of clauses 74, 75 or 76 of new Part 13 (Application, saving and transitional provisions relating to amendments to this Act) of Schedule 1 to the FW Act, the FWC makes a single interest employer authorisation after the commencement of Part 21 of Schedule 1 to the amending Act: </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">Division 10 of Part 2-4 of the Act, as in force immediately before the commencement, continues to apply with respect to that authorisation; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">for the purposes of section 172 of the amended Act, the employers specified in the authorisation are taken to be related employers within the meaning of subsection 172(5A). </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">215. The effect of new subclause 78B would be that any resulting single interest employer agreement made by those employers would be a single-enterprise agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">216. New clause 78C would provide that despite the repeal of subsection 238(2) of the FW Act (which prohibits a bargaining representative from applying for a scope order if a single interest employer authorisation is in operation in relation to the agreement) by Part 21 of Schedule 1 to the amending Act, the subsection continues to apply after the commencement of Part 21 to proposed single-enterprise agreements in relation to which a single interest authorisation is in operation.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 148: Schedule 1, item 661, page 241 (lines 22 to 23)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 149: Schedule 1, item 662, page 242 (lines 12 to 13)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">217. Amendments 148 and 149 would make technical updates to the new definitions of 'affected employees' and 'made' to be inserted into the Dictionary in section 12 of the FW Act by items 661 and 662, as they relate to new Subdivision AE of Division 7 of Part 2-4 (variation of single interest employer agreement or cooperative workplace agreement to remove employer and employees). The updates are consequential on the change in treatment of a single interest employer agreement from a single-enterprise agreement, to a multi-enterprise agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Enterprise agreement pre-approval requirements </span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 26: Schedule 1, item 495, page 156 (line 3)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 27: Schedule 1, item 496, page 156 (lines 4 to 5)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 28: Schedule 1, item 498, page 156 (lines 8 to 9)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 29: Schedule 1, item 506, page 157 (lines 6 to 7)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">218. Section 180 of the FW Act sets out requirements that an employer must comply with before requesting that employees vote to approve a proposed enterprise agreement. These amendments would omit items in Part 14 the Bill that would repeal the pre-approval requirements in subsections 180(5)-(6) of the FW Act and make consequential changes to other items that would amend section 180. Subsection 180(5)-(6) require the employer, prior to putting the agreement to a vote, to explain the terms of a proposed enterprise agreement, and their effect to relevant employees in an appropriate manner, having regard to their needs and circumstances. The amendments would therefore ensure that this key employee safeguard is retained in the FW Act.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">219. Amendment 26 would amend item 495 of the Bill by omitting the amended heading to section 180 of the FW Act ("Employees must be given copy of disclosure documents etc") and substituting it with the heading "Certain preapproval requirements".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">220. Amendment 27 would omit item 496 in the Bill. Item 496 would have repealed the heading to subsection 180(1) of the FW Act. This would mean that the heading "Pre-approval requirements" above subsection 180(1) is retained.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">221. Amendment 28 would omit item 498 of the Bill. Item 498 would have repealed the heading to subsection 180(4A) of the FW Act. This would mean that the heading "Employees must be given a copy of disclosure documents etc" is retained.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">222. Item 506 of the Bill would have repealed the pre-approval requirements in subsections 180(5)-(6) of the FW Act. Subsection 180(5) of the FW Act provides that prior to putting a proposed agreement to a vote, the employer must take all reasonable steps to ensure that the terms of their agreement and their effect are explained to the relevant employees; and that the explanation is provided in an appropriate manner taking into account the relevant employees' particular needs and circumstances. Subsection 180(6) sets out examples of the kinds of employees whose circumstances and needs are to be considered for the purposes of subsection 180(5). Amendment 29 would omit item 506 of the Bill and substitute it with new items 506 and 506A. This would mean that subsections 180(5)-(6) of the FW Act are retained, with some consequential amendments.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">223. Amendment 29 would insert Items 506 and 506A that would make consequential amendments to the wording of paragraphs 180(5)(a) and 180(5)(b) of the FW Act to reflect the proposed repeal of subsection 180(2) of the FW Act which defines "relevant employees". </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 32: Schedule 1, item 509, page 158 (after line 30)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 34: Schedule 1, item 509, page 158 (line 36)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 35: Schedule 1, item 509, page 159 (after line 5)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">224. Item 509 of the Bill would repeal section 188 of the FW Act and substitute it with new section 188. New section 188 would set out the factors that the FWC must consider when determining whether an enterprise agreement has been genuinely agreed to by the employees covered by the agreement. These amendments would make consequential changes to new section 188 to reflect the retainment of subsections 180(5)-(6) of the FW Act (which require an employer to explain the terms of an agreement and their effect to employees in a manner appropriate to their circumstances and needs) and the requirement that the FWC must be satisfied that these subsections have been met before determining that an enterprise agreement has been genuinely agreed to.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">225. Amendment 32 would insert new subsection 188(4A) into the FW Act. New subsection 188(4A) would provide that the FWC cannot be satisfied that the agreement has been genuinely agreed to by the employees covered by the agreement unless the FWC is satisfied that the employer complied with subsection 180(5) in relation to the agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">226. Amendments 34 and 35 would make consequential amendments to proposed new section 188(5) of the FW Act to make clear that in determining whether it is satisfied that an enterprise agreement has been genuinely agreed to by the employees covered by the agreement, the FWC may also disregard minor procedural or technical errors in respect of subsection 180(5) of the FW Act) (which requires an employer to explain the terms of an agreement and their effect to employees in a manner appropriate to their circumstances and needs, prior to the vote occurring).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 38: Schedule 1, item 512, page 160 (lines 15 to 16)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">227. Amendment 38 would omit Item 512 from the Bill. Item 512 would repeal existing paragraph 211(3)(a) of the FW Act. The result of this amendment is that paragraph 211(3)(a) would be retained, which provides that section 180 (which deals with pre-approval steps) must be taken into account by the FWC, with prescribed modifications, when deciding whether to approve a variation of an enterprise agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 39: Schedule 1, item 513, page 160 (lines 17 to 24)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">228. Amendment 39 would omit item 513 of the Bill and substitute it with new items 513, 513A and 513B. New items 513 and 513A of the Bill would make consequential amendments to existing paragraphs 211(3)(d) and (e) to reflect the retainment of subsections 180(5)-(6) of the FW Act (which require an employer to explain the terms of an agreement and their effect to employees in a manner appropriate to their circumstances and needs) and the requirement for the FWC to consider these subsections when deciding whether it must approve a variation of an enterprise agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">229. New item 513B of the FW Act would insert new paragraph 211(3)(fa) into the FW Act. This paragraph would provide that when the FWC is deciding whether it must approve a variation of an enterprise agreement, it must take into account section 180 (which deals with preapproval steps) which has effect as if subsections 180(4A)-(4C) (which deal with provision of disclosable benefits documents) and the word "bargaining" in paragraph 180(6)(c) were omitted. The practical effect of new item 513B would be that the FWC does not need to be satisfied that subsections 180(4A)-(4C) have been met for the proposed variation of an enterprise agreement. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 67: Schedule 1, item 597, page 189 (after line 22), after section 216A</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 84: Schedule 1, item 629, page 202 (after line 11), after section 216D</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 122: Schedule 1, item 649, page 222 (after line 22), after section 216C</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">230. These amendments would insert new sections 216AAA, 216DAA and 216CAA into the FW Act as part of the insertion of new Subdivisions AA (variation of supported bargaining agreement), AD (variation of single interest employer agreement) and AC (variation of cooperative workplace agreement) into existing Division 7 of Part 2-4 of the FW Act (which deals with variation of enterprise agreements). These new Subdivisions would set out the circumstances in which these enterprise agreements may be varied to cover a new employer and its employees, by agreement between those parties. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">231. New subsections 216AAA(1), 216DAA(1) and 216CAA(1) would provide that before an employer requests that affected employees approve the proposed variation, the employer must take all reasonable steps to ensure that:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the terms of the agreement as proposed to be varied, and the effect of those terms, are explained to the affected employees; and </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the explanation is provided in an appropriate manner taking into account the particular circumstances and needs of those employees. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">232. New subsections 216AAA(2), 216DAA(2) and 216CAA(2) would provide that without limiting paragraph 1(b), the following are examples of the kinds of employees whose circumstances and needs are to be taken into account for the purposes of complying with that paragraph: </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">employees from culturally and linguistically diverse backgrounds; </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">young employees; </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">employees who were not represented during negotiations for the variation.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 71: Schedule 1, item 597, page 191 (line 34)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 72: Schedule 1, item 597, page 191 (line 34), at the end of subsection 216AD(1)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 91: Schedule 1, item 629, page 206 (line 7)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 92: Schedule 1, item 629, page 206 (line 7), at the end of subsection 216DD(1) </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 126: Schedule 1, item 649, page 224 (line 17)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 127: Schedule 1, item 649, page 224 (line 17), at the end of subsection 216CC(1) </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">233. These amendments would amend new subsections 216AD(1) (which would be inserted by item 597 of the Bill), 216DD(1) (which would be inserted by item 629 of the Bill) and 216CC(1) (which would be inserted by item 649 of the Bill). These subsections would provide that the FWC is to determine whether it is satisfied that a variation of a supported bargaining agreement, single interest employer agreement or cooperative workplace agreement to add a new employer and its employees has been genuinely agreed to by the affected employees in accordance with section 188 (which deals with genuine agreement), as modified.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">234. Amendments 71, 91 and 126 would amend new paragraphs 216AD(1)(d), 216DD(1)(d) and 216CC(1)(d) to make clear that only new subsections 188(3) and (4) (which deal with the requirement to provide a NERR and the "21 days" rule) are to be omitted by the FWC when determining whether a variation of a supported bargaining agreement, single interest employer agreement or cooperative workplace agreement to cover a new employer and its employees has been genuinely agreed to. The FWC would still be required to consider new subsection 188(5) (prescribed minor procedural or technical errors may be disregarded) as it applies to a variation. However, paragraphs 188(5)(a), (b) and (c) would have no practical effect as sections 173, 174, subsections 181(2), 182(1) and (2) (also for which errors may be disregarded), do not apply to agreement variations of this kind.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">235. Amendments 72, 92 and 127 would insert new paragraphs 216AD(1)(e), 216DD(1)(e) and 216CC(1)(e) into the FW Act. These new paragraphs would provide that when the FWC is to determine whether it is satisfied that a variation of a supported bargaining agreement, single interest employer agreement or cooperative workplace agreement to cover a new employer and its employees has been genuinely agreed to in accordance with section 188 (which deals with genuine agreement), subsections 188(4A) and (5) are to apply as if references to subsection 180(5) were references to section 216AAA, 216DAA or 216CAA as applicable. New paragraphs 216AD(1)(f), 216DD(1)(f) and 216CC(1)(f) are inserted into the FW Act and provide in determining whether minor errors may be disregarded under new subsection 188(5) inserted by Item 509 of the Bill, references to when an enterprise agreement is made are instead references to when the relevant variation is made. The practical effect of these amendments is that before determining that a variation of one of these types has been genuinely agreed to, the FWC must be satisfied that the employer has explained the terms of the supported bargaining agreement, single interest employer agreement or cooperative workplace agreement and their effect to employees in a manner appropriate to their circumstances and needs, prior to the vote for the variation.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Genuine agreement of employers</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 119: Schedule 1, item 647, page 221 (before line 16), before subsection 186(2A)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">236. Subsection 186 sets out various requirements that the FWC must take into account when approving enterprise agreements. Paragraph 186(2)(b) provides that if the agreement is a multi-enterprise agreement, each employer has genuinely agreed to be covered by the agreement and no person coerced any of the employers to make the agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">237. New subsection 186(2AA) would provide that, for the purposes of paragraph 186(2)(b), only the actions of an employer who bargained for the agreement should be taken into account. For example, an order made by the FWC on application of an employee organisation for the employer to be joined to an authorisation would be disregarded for the purpose of determining whether the employer has genuinely agreed to the agreement. Similarly, an order made by the FWC in these circumstances would not amount to coercion. Further, anything authorised by or under the FW Act—such as protected industrial action taken by the employer's employees during bargaining—would not amount to coercion. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 145: Schedule 1, item 660, page 239 (before line 16), before clause 81</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">238. This amendment provides that new subsection 186(2AA) applies to the approval of an enterprise agreement by the FWC after the commencement of the new subsection. Section 186 sets out various requirements that the FWC must take into account when approving enterprise agreements. New subsection 186(2AA) is in Part 23 which commences at the same time as Part 20, which commences on Proclamation.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Minimum bargaining period for intractable bargaining declarations</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 53: Schedule 1, page 173 (after line 5), after item 537</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 55: Schedule 1, item 543, page 174 (line 21), at the end of subsection 235(1)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 56: Schedule 1, item 543, page 175 (line 11), at the end of section 235</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">239. These amendments would require that before issuing an intractable bargaining declaration, the FWC must be satisfied that a prescribed minimum period of good faith bargaining has elapsed.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">240. Amendment 53 would amend section 12 of the FW Act by inserting a new signpost definition of 'end of the minimum bargaining period'.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">241. Item 543 of the Bill would repeal existing Subdivision B of Division 8 of Part 2-4 of the FW Act, which relates to applications for serious breach declarations, and substitute new provisions dealing with applications for intractable bargaining declarations.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">242. New section 235 would set out when the FWC may have discretion to make an intractable bargaining declaration, requiring an application for the declaration to have been made by a bargaining representative and the FWC to be satisfied of the matters set out in subsection 235(2). New subsection 235(2) would provide that:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the FWC must be satisfied that it has dealt with the dispute under section 240 (application for the FWC to deal with a bargaining dispute);</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">the applicant has participated in the FWC's processes—those processes would include, for example, private conciliation conferences with the FWC;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">there is no reasonable prospect of agreement being reached if the FWC does not make the declaration; and </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">it is reasonable in all the circumstances to make the declaration, taking into account the views of all the bargaining representatives. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">FWC must be satisfied the applicant 'participated' in the relevant processes before making an intractable bargaining declaration, including attending mandatory conciliation. However, FWC would not be able to consider what occurred during conciliation, as these conferences are conducted in confidence.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">243. Amendment 55 would insert a further requirement in new paragraph 235(1)(c), providing that the FWC must also be satisfied that it is after the end of the minimum bargaining period before making an intractable bargaining declaration. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">244. Amendment 56 would insert new subsection 235(5), setting out the meaning of "end of the minimum bargaining period", which would be calculated in one of two ways—depending on whether the bargaining is to replace an existing enterprise agreement or not. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">245. Where an existing enterprise agreement(s) applies to any of the employees that will be covered by the proposed agreement, the end of the minimum bargaining period would be the earlier of:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">six months after the nominal expiry date for the existing enterprise agreement, or the latest nominal expiry date if there are multiple existing enterprise agreements that apply; or </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        &#xA;          text-indent:-11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">three months after an application under section 240 was made in relation to the proposed enterprise agreement (if any). </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">246. Where the proposed enterprise agreement is not replacing an existing enterprise agreement, the end of the minimum bargaining period would be three months after an application has been made under section 240 in relation to the proposed enterprise agreement. If there have been multiple applications under section 240 made for the FWC to deal with a bargaining dispute in relation to a proposed enterprise agreement, it is intended that the end of the minimum bargaining period would occur three months after the first such application. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">247. Amendments that would be made to section 173 by items 522 and 523 of the Bill may be instructive in determining when a proposed enterprise agreement is intended to replace an existing enterprise agreement. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Bargaining disputes</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 57: Schedule 1, page 177 (after line 12), after item 548</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">248. Existing subsection 270(3) provides that a bargaining related workplace determination must include the terms that the FWC considers deal with the matters that were still at issue at the end of the post-declaration negotiating period. Amendment 57 would insert a new item 548A that would repeal and substitute a new subsection 270(3). New subsection 270(3) would provide that a bargaining related workplace determination must include the terms that the FWC considers deal with the matters that were still at issue after the end of the post-declaration negotiating period if there is such a period, or otherwise after making the declaration. This amendment is necessary as new section 235A (inserted by item 543) would not mandate the provision of a post-declaration negotiation period. New subsection 270(3) would cater for instances where the FWC does not specify a post-declaration negotiating period. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 58: Schedule 1, item 551, page 177 (lines 26 to 28)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">249. Existing section 271A deals with limitations relating to greenfields agreements and workplace determinations. Item 551 would make technical amendments to existing section 271A to replace the reference to "bargaining related workplace determinations" with a reference to "intractable bargaining workplace determinations". Amendment 58 would omit and substitute a new item 551 that would repeal section 271A. Section 271A would no longer be necessary as new section 234 provides that an application for an intractable bargaining declaration cannot be made where the proposed agreement is a greenfields agreement. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Varying ag</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">reements to add employers</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 66: Schedule 1, page 188 (after line 29), after item 596</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 69: Schedule 1, item 597, page 191 (after line 3), at the end of section 216AB</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 74: Schedule 1, item 597, page 194 (after line 29), at the end of section 216BA</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">250. Existing section 211 sets out when the FWC must approve a variation of an enterprise agreement. Amendment 66 would insert a new item 596A inserting a new subsection 211(1A) that would provide that the FWC must not approve the variation if the varied agreement will cover employees whose employer is specified in a supported bargaining authorisation, or a single interest employer authorisation, in relation to those employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">251. New section 216AB would establish when the FWC must approve a variation of a supported bargaining agreement to add a new employer and employees with consent. Amendment 69 would add a new subsection 216AB(3) that would provide that the FWC must not approve the variation if the employer that will be covered by the agreement is specified in a single interest employer authorisation in relation to any of the affected employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">252. New section 216BA would set out when the FWC must vary a supported bargaining agreement to add an employer on application of an employee organisation that is covered by the supported bargaining agreement. Amendment 74 would add a new subsection 216BA(4) that would provide that the FWC must not make the variation if the employer that will be covered by the agreement is specified in a single interest employer authorisation in relation to any of the affected employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">253. These amendments would prevent the FWC from approving a variation where the varied agreement would cover employees whose employer is specified in a supported bargaining authorisation, or a single interest employer authorisation, in relation to those employees. Likewise, the amendments would prevent the FWC from approving a variation of a supported bargaining agreement to add a new employer and employees where the varied agreement would cover an employer specified in a single interest employer authorisation in relation to any of the affected employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 88: Schedule 1, item 629, page 205 (after line 22), at the end of section 216DC</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">254. New section 216DC, inserted by item 629 of the Bill would set out the matters of which the FWC must be satisfied before approving a variation of a single interest employer agreement to extend coverage to a new employer and its affected employees. Amendment 87 would add a new subsection 216DC(5) that would provide that the FWC must not approve the variation if the employer that will be covered by the agreement is specified in a supported bargaining authorisation in relation to any of the affected employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">255. The amendment would prevent the FWC from approving a variation of a single interest employer agreement where the varied agreement would cover an employer specified in a supported bargaining authorisation in relation to those employees</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 124: Schedule 1, item 649, page 223 (after line 33), at the end of section 216CB</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">256. New section 216CB, inserted by item 649 of the Bill, would set out the circumstances in which the FWC must approve a variation of a cooperative workplace agreement to add an employer and their affected employees. Amendment 123 would add a new subsection 216CB(3) that would provide that the FWC must not approve the variation if the employer that will be covered by the agreement is specified in a supported bargaining authorisation, or a single interest employer authorisation, in relation to any of the affected employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">257. The amendment would prevent the FWC from approving a variation of a cooperative workplace agreement where the varied agreement would cover an employer specified in a supported bargaining authorisation, or a single interest employer authorisation, in relation to those employees. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Affected employees</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 147: Schedule 1, item 661, page 241 (line 13)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">258. The concept of "affected employees" would be central to a variation of an enterprise agreement under proposed Subdivisions AA, AB and AC of Division 7 of Part 2-4 of the FW Act. For example, it would inform who may make an application (proposed subsections 216A(1), 216(1) and 216C(1)), who may vote to approve the proposed variation (proposed subsections 216A(2) and 216C(2)), when the variation is made (proposed subsections 216A(4), 216BC and 216C(4)) and when the FWC must approve the variation (proposed subsections 216AB(1), 216BA(1) and 216CB(1)). </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">259. Item 661 would amend section 12 by repealing the definition of "affected employees" and substituting a new definition. Subsection (b) of the proposed new definition would provide that for a variation of an enterprise agreement under Subdivision AA, AB or AC of Division 7 of Part 2-4, affected employees means an employee employed by the employer at the time the variation is made who will be covered by the agreement if the variation is approved (or made) by the FWC. In other words, amendment 5 would modify this definition by inserting the words "by the employer" after "employed". The practical effect is to clarify that the reference to an 'employee employed at the time' is a reference to an 'employee employed by the employer at the time'. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">260. The amendment is not required to be made in relation to new paragraph (a) of the definition because it applies to single-enterprise agreements.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">261. In relation to new paragraph (c), this is a signpost definition and amendments 83 and 84 make a similar change to new paragraphs 216D(1)(b) and 216DB(1)(b) which sit within new Subdivision AD—Variation of single interest employer agreement to add employer and employees, within Division 7 of Part 2-4 of the FW Act (to be inserted by item 629 of the Bill).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">262. The amendment is not required to be made in relation to new paragraph (d) of the definition because this relates to variations to remove an employer and their employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Supported bargaining</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 80: Schedule 1, items 615 and 616, page 199 (lines 21 to 24)</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">263. Items 615 and 616 would make technical amendments to section 245, which deals with variations of low-paid authorisations, by replacing the words 'low-paid' with 'supported bargaining'. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">264. Amendment 80 would omit items 615 and 616 and substitute a new item 615, to repeal existing section 245 and substitute a new section dealing with variations of supported bargaining authorisations. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">265. New section 245 would provide that the FWC is taken to have varied a supported bargaining authorisation to remove an employer's name when the employer and all of their employees who are specified in the authorisation are covered by an enterprise agreement, or a workplace determination, that is in operation. This amendment is necessary as existing section 245 only requires that the enterprise agreement cover the employer. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">266. The practical effect of this amendment would be that the FWC will not be taken to have varied a supported bargaining authorisation to remove an employer's name unless an enterprise agreement, or a workplace determination, that covers the employer and all of their employees who are specified in the authorisation, comes into operation. The amendment would eliminate the possibility of an employer being removed from an authorisation where they make an enterprise agreement with a separate group of employees to those covered by the authorisation or where they make an enterprise agreement with some, but not all, of the employees specified in the authorisation. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Presumptive provisions for firefighters</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment 150: Schedule 1, page 243 (after line 15), after item 667</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">267. Item 667A—This amendment would repeal paragraph 7(9)(a) of the SRC Act and substitute it with a new provision that would outline the circumstances in which employees are taken to have been employed as a firefighter for the purposes of the Act.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">268. Item 667B—This amendment would introduce paragraph 7(9)(ba) to clarify that employees covered by paragraph 7(9)(a)(i) of the SRC Act are taken to have been employed as a firefighter during any period in which they were a member of a firefighting service.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This bill will get wages moving. It will streamline the process for single enterprise bargaining to incentivise greater take up by employers and employees. Employers and employees are better off on enterprise agreements, and it's that simple. For businesses and employees unable to access single enterprise bargaining, the bill creates flexible options for multi-employer bargaining. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These changes will update our workplace laws to bring employers and employees together to improve wages, conditions and productivity. Since the introduction of these reforms on 27 October, my department and I have continued to consult closely with businesses and unions. These amendments make sensible changes to the bill to address issues arising during consultation. At the request of business, the following key changes have been made. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">First of all, on the primacy of single enterprise agreements: under our amendments, employers who have agreed with an employee organisation to start bargaining for a single enterprise agreement are exempt from the single interest stream. This is in addition to the existing exemption for employers with an in-term agreement. In a further change, the Fair Work Commission will have the capacity for up to six months, after the expiry of an agreement, to exempt an employer from the single interest stream where the employer has a history of effective bargaining. These changes will allow businesses who successfully bargain at the enterprise level to continue to do so and act as a strong incentive for new single enterprise agreements to be made. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Further changes with respect to voting: to address concerns that were raised in consultation, primarily with business, we'll amend the bill to clarify that all voting processes under the new single interest and supported bargaining streams will occur on an employer-by-employer basis. This means that an employer cannot be brought to the table to bargain or be covered by a multi-employer agreement unless either a majority of its own workforce or the employer itself supports this. It means that industrial action, where it is permitted, cannot occur where the workers for that employer have not voted for it. Current rules for employers with existing single interest agreements or who have applied for a declaration or an authorisation prior to the commencement of provisions will be preserved. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Under our amendments, we will require a minimum period of good-faith bargaining before an intractable bargaining declaration can be issued by the Fair Work Commission. We'll replace the record of noncompliance exclusion from multi-employer bargaining with an exclusion of the commercial building and construction industry as a whole. This step is not taken lightly, but we do not believe that it is appropriate or necessary to extend multi-employer bargaining to this industry at this time. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Our amendments establish the new National Construction Industry Forum as a statutory advisory body aimed at bringing unions, employers and government to the same table to promote positive cultural change in the sector. I want to thank the Business Council of Australia, COSBOA, the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, the Australian Industry Group, the Minerals Council of Australia, the Australian Constructors Association, the Franchise Council of Australia, Live Performance Australia, the Australasian Convenience and Petroleum Marketers Association, the Australian Retailers Association and other business representatives for raising these issues with me on behalf of their members. I also want to thank and acknowledge the members for Wentworth, Warringah, Curtin, Goldstein, Indi, Fowler, Kooyong, North Sydney, Mackellar, Clark, Mayo and Kennedy for bringing the concerns of businesses in their electorates so passionately and constructively to this process. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We'll make amendments to strengthen the bill by providing that a multi-employer agreement must not be put to a vote unless it is agreed by all relevant employers and employee organisations: retaining safeguards for employees who are young, culturally or linguistically diverse or unrepresented during bargaining; clarifying that new employees hired after an agreement is approved can ask to have the better off overall test applied to them in certain circumstances. I want to thank the member for Melbourne, on behalf of the Australian Greens, and the work of Professor Stewart for the way in which this issue has been raised with us. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Regarding 'further improving access to the presumptive provisions for all firefighters covered by the Safety Rehabilitation and Compensation Act and clarifying access for volunteer firefighters', I thank and acknowledge Senator David Pocock, the member for Bean, the member for Canberra, the Minister for Finance, the member for Fenner, the United Firefighters Union, Mr Brett McNamara and, again, the Australian Greens for their ongoing advocacy and discussion on this issue. This remains unfinished business and we'll continue to consider improvements in this space.  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Regarding 'clarify and improve the fixed term contract provisions and insert a new commencement date of 12 months to provide additional time for consultation and further refinement of these provisions, including for sports people and university staff', I thank ACCI, COSBOA, the member for Melbourne on behalf of the Greens and Senator Barbara Pocock for bringing these matters to our attention. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Regarding 'remove the capacity for ministerial directions to the general manager of the Fair Work Commission about the Fair Work Registered Organisations Act 2009, removing any capacity for interference with this function; preserve the concurrent operation of state and territory laws dealing with sexual harassment and ensure that the Commonwealth can be held vicariously liable for contraventions of the new prohibition on sexual harassment by Defence members and provide that certain Fair Work Commission orders under the new section 65C in relation to requests for flexible work cannot be inconsistent with the Fair Work Act 2009 or a term of a fair work instrument other than another Fair Work Commission order of the same kind' I thank the member for Melbourne for raising this issue. I commend— <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>34</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
                <name.id>L6B</name.id>
                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FLETCHER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:41</span>):  The opposition will be opposing these amendments. It's quite an extraordinary feat, but they make a bad bill even worse. Let's be clear what's happening here. The process here has been absolutely appalling. A 243-page bill containing extensive, detailed provisions was released the week before last. Yesterday afternoon the government released 34 pages of additional amendments—around 150 amendments. This is a hopeless and chaotic process. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Let's be absolutely clear about one of the specific provisions in the amendments the government has released because their union paymasters have been onto the Leader of the House and said: 'Sorry, that's not enough. We need more.' Specifically, there are provisions in these amendments which give unions the power to veto deals that have been done—enterprise agreements that have been done—when a so-called 'bargaining representative', that's to say a union official, declines to give consent to an agreement that has been reached between an employer and the majority of its employees. That is, of itself enough, for the opposition to be trenchantly opposed to this amendment, as we are trenchantly opposed to the totality of the bill that is before the House.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We've had the Leader of the House seeking to give the impression that there's been consultation. He's put on his most reasonable voice, which should put everybody on notice. Let's be absolutely clear about what has been said by industry peak bodies:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">The Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry; Australian Industry Group; Business Council of Australia; Minerals Council of Australia; the Council of Small Business Organisations of Australia (COSBOA); and National Farmers Federation are united in a call for the Government to either abandon or substantially amend various contentious elements of the Bill relating to bargaining.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">The Bill, as currently framed, should not be passed by Parliament.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">We jointly call on the Government to permit time for a thorough consideration of the content and implications of the Bill. This deeper consideration should include removing the provisions to allow widespread use of multi-employer bargaining backed by strike action. The Australian Parliament should remain open to making further amendments.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And here's another very interesting observation made by these organisations which flies entirely in the face of the honeyed words of the Leader of the House, seeking to give the impression that there's been consultation, that all is in agreement. These organisations say that the legislation as drafted does not reflect broad consensus arising out of engagement with industry at the Jobs and Skills Summit or subsequent consultations. These are bodies representing the major prosperity-generating sectors of the Australian economy, the major employment-generating sectors of the Australian economy. They are saying very clearly that more time is needed, and they are fundamentally opposed, as is clear, to a number of elements of this bill. They particularly highlight the provisions in the bill that would allow widespread use of multi-employer bargaining by strike action.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Let's be clear what is before the House, both in the substantive bill and in the amendments that were circulated yesterday. It is putting Australia at risk of returning to the bad old days of the 1970s, with repeated strike action and a sluggish and unproductive economy. The bill and the amendments make it worse, because they further weaken the arrangements in relation to enterprise agreements because they allow a union to veto such an agreement, even when there has been a vote in favour of it by employees.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are some minor window-dressing concessions in here, but the simple fact is that this is a very bad bill, taking the Australian economy and our society and our community backwards—extraordinarily. You would have thought it was hard to achieve but, extraordinarily, the amendments make a bad situation worse, and the opposition will be opposing the government's amendments as we opposed the bill.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>35</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Tink, Kylea MP</name>
                <name.id>300124</name.id>
                <electorate>North Sydney</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="300124" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms TINK</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">North Sydney</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:46</span>):  I am rising today just to make the comment that I concur with the opposition that to be given 33 pages of amendments to the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022 and to then have 24 hours to reasonably consult with others across the community on it is really not befitting the status of this House as a place where we are able to engage in active debate around the legislation that is put forward. So, while I do commend the government, because I know they've been working very hard to try to engage more broadly, I would like to make the point that the time line on which this bill is being moved through is at the government's behest. As such, the creation of this anxiety is a result of the government's decision to push it through so quickly. So I just mirror, echo, those concerns: 33 pages of amendments to a bill that was already 200-odd pages long is very difficult for people in the real world and in my community to get their head around. Thank you.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Is the member for North Sydney moving any amendments?</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="300124" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms TINK:</span>
                    </a>  I am. I move amendments (1) and (2) to government amendment (129) together:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1)   Amendment (129), item 659B, at the end of paragraph 789GZE(2)(b), add ", and one member with experience in small to medium sized enterprises in the residential building sector".</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[membership]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2)   Amendment (129), item 659B, at the end of section 789GZJ, add:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (3)   Within 14 working days of a meeting, the National Construction Industry Forum must publish on the Department’s website a public communique.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[confidentiality]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The amendments I'm moving today relate to strengthening the representation on and transparency over the proposed National Construction Industry Forum. Close to five per cent of the workers in North Sydney work in building and construction. That's about 4,000 people. I've spoken to many of them and many residential builders who are fearful that the abolition of the ABCC will drive negative cultural changes in the commercial building sector. Whilst the government claims that carving out the construction industries and its unions divisions from many aspects of the bill will isolate these changes, it is inevitable that what happens at the big end of construction will flow through to the small and medium residential building sector due to the high levels of overlap with subcontractors and workers.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">During the course of this rushed debate and harried negotiations we've seen the government release more details around their National Construction Industry Forum. The forum is by no means a replacement for the ABCC, but I am hopeful that all parties to the forum will work together in a respectful, trustful and collaborative manner. As currently constituted, the forum is dominated by ministerial captain's picks from peak bodies and industry groups. My amendments will ensure that those at the table are representative of the whole building industry, not just the big unions or big construction companies. In North Sydney there are around 2,000 construction and building businesses, of which 88 per cent are small businesses. This amendment seeks to ensure that their voice is heard. In order to achieve cultural change throughout the industry from top to bottom, small to medium, residential builders must be at the table. The amendment also ensures that the forum publishes a communique on the departmental website within 14 days of a meeting.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We've seen here and in the media intense lobbying from the big end of town—those with the power and resources to access the halls of parliament—and in this I count large employer groups and businesses, but also representatives of large unions. Individual employees, small- to medium-sized businesses and workers in low-paid industries, who the government have been wielding in advance to advance their arguments, are largely absent. The fact remains that this is a deal being done largely behind closed doors, and I don't think it's good for our democracy. We must open up the doors and improve the transparency over all processes of government, including statutory bodies like the proposed National Construction Industry Forum. My amendment will ensure that the broader sector and the public can see discussions and decisions of the forum, and I commend the amendment to the House.</span>
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              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>35</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>53517</name.id>
                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
                </talker>
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              </talk.text>
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              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>35</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Tink, Kylea MP</name>
                  <name.id>300124</name.id>
                  <electorate>North Sydney</electorate>
                  <party>IND</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
                </talker>
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              </talk.text>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>36</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:50</span>):  I want to thank the crossbench for the way in which they have engaged, and I particularly thank the member for North Sydney for this particular amendment.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government will support the amendment. I was listening to the member for North Sydney and, while decisions have not yet been made—we haven't even started to make decisions in terms of the make-up of the forum—I was thinking back over the years about different fora of this nature which I've participated in in different portfolios, and there was always a risk that exactly what the member for North Sydney described could have happened in terms of the biggest players and groups ultimately dominating it and so we wouldn't get that guaranteed representation, particularly by the small to medium residential sector. I think this amendment provides an important brake to make sure that what we're hoping for happens: bringing all the parties together in different ways and doing that effectively.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>36</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
                <name.id>L6B</name.id>
                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FLETCHER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:51</span>):  I indicate that the opposition will be supporting the amendment moved by the member for North Sydney.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The question now is that the government amendment, as amended, be agreed to. I give the call to the honourable member for Wentworth.</span>
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              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>36</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>53517</name.id>
                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
                </talker>
              </talk.start>
              <talk.text>
              </talk.text>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>36</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Spender, Allegra MP</name>
                <name.id>286042</name.id>
                <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="286042" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SPENDER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wentworth</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:52</span>):  I move an amendment to government amendment (30):</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Amendment (30), item 506B, at the end of subsection 180A(2), add ", or must ensure bargaining representatives have a reasonable opportunity to communicate and reasons for not providing written agreement to employees".</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The most concerning part about the government amendments is the provision giving unions veto power over enterprise agreements. This means that an unscrupulous individual can hold a business and its workforce to ransom, demanding concessions or private benefits that may not be in the interests of union members or other employees. The minister has argued that bad actors may seek to encourage workers to agree to something that is not in their interests. I accept that there are those bad actors. However, this veto power goes too far. It is unconscionable that any government would seek to provide a veto power of this nature, particularly to its financial backers.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My amendment negates the veto power by saying that employers must have written agreement from the union or provide reasonable opportunities for unions to communicate their concerns to employees. I believe that the employees should be well informed about any change to any agreement that comes to them, and I support that the union can provide an important perspective on that. However, it is fundamentally up to individuals to decide whether or not they get to vote on an agreement and whether an agreement is in their interests. If a union thinks it's a dud then let them say so, but let employees decide for themselves what is best for them.</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>37</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:53</span>):  I thank the member for Wentworth; we've had private conversations on this issue as well and I respect the passion with which this issue is held.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government won't be supporting this amendment. I think it's worth being mindful that when people talk about a veto on one side of the bargaining table that that same veto is there for the employer. So we have a situation where either the employer or the employee organisation can say, 'This is not yet ready to go to a vote.' I know it's been in the media as though there's only a veto on one side. The veto is also on the employer side. The concept here is you reach agreement before it goes to the vote. We believe that's an important safeguard to avoid a situation where substandard agreements are put out under these provisions.</span>
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              </body>
            </talk.text>
          </speech>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>37</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
                <name.id>L6B</name.id>
                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FLETCHER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Ma</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">nager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:55</span>):  I indicate that the opposition will be supporting the amendment moved by the member for Wentworth. </span>
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              </body>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>37</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Chaney, Kate MP</name>
                <name.id>300006</name.id>
                <electorate>Curtin</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="300006" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CHANEY</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Curtin</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:55</span>):  I support the amendment moved by the member Wentworth, which is very reasonable and balanced. I refer to the minister's comments about there being an equal veto on both sides. I would put it that actually the agreement is between the employer and the employee. They are the two parties to the agreement. The only veto by a third party would be the intervention of an employee representative or union. It is not the same thing to say that the employer has a right to veto an agreement between the employer and the employees. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This amendment softens the requirements, so the employer can show that a bargaining representative has had a reasonable opportunity to communicate reasons for not providing written agreements to the employees, which seems like a very reasonable compromise because it is reasonably foreseeable that the interests of an employee representative, such as a union, could differ from the interests of an employee of an organisation. This requirement doesn't apply now, and there have been examples of agreements being put to employees and approved, despite the union not wanting it to go to a vote. Unions have played an important role in protecting workers' rights over the centuries, but it makes no sense to actually turn them into a barrier between employees and employers. I support that amendment. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKE</span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">R:</span>  The question is that the amendment moved by the member for Wentworth be disagreed to.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The question now is that the government amendments, as amended, be agreed to.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
                </p>
              </body>
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            <interjection>
              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>37</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>53517</name.id>
                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
                </talker>
              </talk.start>
              <talk.text>
              </talk.text>
            </interjection>
            <interjection>
              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>38</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>53517</name.id>
                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
                </talker>
              </talk.start>
              <talk.text>
              </talk.text>
            </interjection>
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          <division>
            <division.header>
              <body>
                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [10:01]<br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick)</p>
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                <num.votes>78</num.votes>
                <title>AYES</title>
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                  <name>Aly, A.</name>
                  <name>Ananda-Rajah, M.</name>
                  <name>Bandt, A. P.</name>
                  <name>Bates, S. J.</name>
                  <name>Bowen, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Burke, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Burnell, M. P.</name>
                  <name>Burns, J.</name>
                  <name>Butler, M. C.</name>
                  <name>Byrnes, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
                  <name>Chandler-Mather, M.</name>
                  <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                  <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                  <name>Clare J. D.</name>
                  <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
                  <name>Coker, E. A.</name>
                  <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                  <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Fernando, C.</name>
                  <name>Freelander, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                  <name>Georganas, S.</name>
                  <name>Giles, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Gorman, P.</name>
                  <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Hill, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Husic, E. N.</name>
                  <name>Jones, S. P.</name>
                  <name>Katter, R. C.</name>
                  <name>Kearney, G. M.</name>
                  <name>Keogh, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Khalil, P.</name>
                  <name>King, C. F.</name>
                  <name>King, M. M. H.</name>
                  <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                  <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                  <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                  <name>Lim, S. B. C.</name>
                  <name>Marles, R. D.</name>
                  <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
                  <name>McBain, K. L.</name>
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                  <name>Mulino, D.</name>
                  <name>Neumann, S. K.</name>
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                  <name>Perrett, G. D.</name>
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                  <name>Scrymgour, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Shorten, W. R.</name>
                  <name>Sitou, S.</name>
                  <name>Smith, D. P. B. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Stanley, A. M. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Swanson, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Templeman, S. R.</name>
                  <name>Thistlethwaite, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Thwaites, K. L.</name>
                  <name>Vamvakinou, M.</name>
                  <name>Watson-Brown, E.</name>
                  <name>Watts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Wells, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Wilkie, A. D.</name>
                  <name>Wilson, J. H.</name>
                  <name>Zappia, A.</name>
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                <num.votes>59</num.votes>
                <title>NOES</title>
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                  <name>Andrews, K. L.</name>
                  <name>Archer, B. K.</name>
                  <name>Bell, A. M.</name>
                  <name>Birrell, S. J.</name>
                  <name>Boyce, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Broadbent, R. E.</name>
                  <name>Buchholz, S.</name>
                  <name>Chaney, K. E.</name>
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                  <name>Conaghan, P. J.</name>
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                  <name>Gee, A. R.</name>
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                  <name>Goodenough, I. R. </name>
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                  <name>Hamilton, G. R.</name>
                  <name>Hastie, A. W.</name>
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                  <name>Joyce, B. T. G.</name>
                  <name>Landry, M. L.</name>
                  <name>Le, D.</name>
                  <name>Leeser, J.</name>
                  <name>Ley, S. P.</name>
                  <name>Littleproud, D.</name>
                  <name>Marino, N. B.</name>
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                  <name>McIntosh, M. I.</name>
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                  <name>Sharkie, R. C. C.</name>
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                  <name>Sukkar, M. S.</name>
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                  <name>Tehan, D. T.</name>
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                  <name>Tudge, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Vasta, R. X.</name>
                  <name>Violi, A. A.</name>
                  <name>Wallace, A. B.</name>
                  <name>Webster, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Willcox, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Wilson, R. J.</name>
                  <name>Wolahan, K.</name>
                  <name>Wood, J. P.</name>
                  <name>Young, T. J.</name>
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                <num.votes>0</num.votes>
                <title>PAIRS</title>
                <names />
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              <body>
                <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed to.</p>
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          <division>
            <division.header>
              <body>
                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [10:06] <br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick) </p>
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                <num.votes>85</num.votes>
                <title>AYES</title>
                <names>
                  <name>Aly, A.</name>
                  <name>Ananda-Rajah, M.</name>
                  <name>Bandt, A. P.</name>
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                  <name>Burke, A. S.</name>
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                  <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
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                  <name>Clare J. D.</name>
                  <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
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                  <name>Daniel, Z.</name>
                  <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
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                  <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                  <name>Georganas, S.</name>
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                  <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
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                  <name>Husic, E. N.</name>
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                <num.votes>52</num.votes>
                <title>NOES</title>
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                  <name>Andrews, K. L.</name>
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                <num.votes>0</num.votes>
                <title>PAIRS</title>
                <names />
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed to. </p>
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          <speech>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>39</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
                <name.id>L6B</name.id>
                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FLETCHER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:08</span>):  by leave—I move opposition amendments (1) to (31) as circulated in my name together:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) Clause 2, page 2 (table items 2, 3 and 4), omit the table items.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) Clause 2, page 2 (table items 6, 7 and 8), omit the table items.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3) Clause 2, page 4 (table item 21), omit the table item.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(4) Clause 2, page 4 (table item 24), omit the table item.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(5) Clause 2, page 4 (table item 27), omit the table item.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(6) Clause 2, pages 4 and 5 (table item 28), omit the table item.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(7) Clause 2, page 5 (table item 29), omit the table item.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(8) Clause 2, page 5 (table item 30), omit the table item.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(9) Clause 2, page 5 (table item 34), omit the table item.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(10) Schedule 1, Part 1, page 6 (line 2) to page 32 (line 29), omit the Part.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(11) Schedule 1, Part 3, page 41 (line 1) to page 79 (line 22), omit the Part.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(12) Schedule 1, Part 15, page 162 (lines 1 to 27), omit the Part.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(13) Schedule 1, Part 18, page 173 (line 1) to page 178 (line 18), omit the Part.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(14) Schedule 1, Division 3 of Part 19, page 184 (lines 5 to 16), omit the Division.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(15) Schedule 1, Part 20, page 187 (line 1) to page 200 (line 25), omit the Part.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(16) Schedule 1, Part 21, page 201 (line 1) to page 213 (line 19), omit the Part.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(17) Schedule 1, item 629, page 204 (lines 29 and 30), omit "is not a small business employer", substitute "employs more than 200 employees who are full-time equivalent employees".</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(18) Schedule 1, item 634, page 208 (lines 9 and 10), omit subparagraph 249(3)(a)(i), substitute:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(i) each employer has consented to the application; and</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(19) Schedule 1, item 634, page 208 (line 23), omit "is not contrary to the public interest", substitute "is in the public interest".</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(20) Schedule 1, item 634, page 208 (line 25) to page 209 (line 3), omit subsection 249(3A).</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(21) Schedule 1, item 634, page 208 (line 27), omit "is not a small business employer", substitute "employs more than 200 employees who are full-time equivalent employees".</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(22) Schedule 1, item 634, page 209 (lines 12 to 16), omit paragraphs 249(3C)(a) to (c), substitute:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      43.1pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the history of bargaining of each of the relevant employers, including whether they have previously bargained together;</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      43.1pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) the interests that the relevant employers have in common, and the extent to which those interests are relevant to whether they should be permitted to bargain together;</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      43.1pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(c) whether the relevant employers are governed by a common regulatory regime;</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      43.1pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(d) whether it would be more appropriate for each of the relevant employers to make a separate enterprise agreement with its employees;</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      43.1pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(e) the extent to which the relevant employers operate collaboratively rather than competitively.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(23) Schedule 1, item 639, page 211 (line 32), omit "is not a small business employer", substitute "employs more than 200 employees who are full-time equivalent employees".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(24) Schedule 1, Part 22, page 214 (line 1) to page 217 (line 8), omit the Part.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(25) Schedule 1, Part 23, page 218 (line 1) to page 225 (line 30), omit the Part.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(26) Schedule 1, item 660, page 229 (line 19) to page 230 (line 7), omit Division 2.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(27) Schedule 1, item 660, page 235 (line 17) to page 236 (line 5), omit Division 14.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(28) Schedule 1, item 660, page 236 (lines 23 to 31), omit subclauses 72(4) and (5).</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(29) Schedule 1, item 660, page 237 (line 9) to page 239 (line 26), omit Divisions 16 and 17.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(30) Schedule 1, item 660, page 240 (after line 24), at the end of Part 13, add:</span>
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                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Division 20</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">—</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Review of operation of amendments</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">85 Review of operation of amendments</span>
                  </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) The Minister must cause a review of the operation of the amendments made by Schedule 1 to the amending Act to be conducted by an independent expert as soon as practicable after the end of the period of 12 months starting on the day the amending Act receives the Royal Assent.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) The person who conducts the review must give the Minister a written report of the review.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3) The Minister must cause a copy of the report to be tabled in each House of the Parliament within 15 sitting days of that House after the report is given to the Minister</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(31) Schedule 1, Division 2 of Part 26, page 241 (line 1) to page 242 (line 19), omit the Division.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These amendments relate to the very extensive sections of this bill that are, in the view of the opposition, entirely objectionable. The Registered Organisations Commission would be abolished by this bill. We are opposed to the abolition of the Registered Organisations Commission because it would effectively shield the government's union paymasters from the scrutiny that they ought to be subject to, as any other organisation in our community ought to be subject to. Registered organisations are afforded special privileges in the industrial relations system. They control assets worth millions of dollars and have a large amount of trust placed in them by their members. The Registered Organisations Commission, together with the Australian Building and Construction Commission, was critical in guarding against union misconduct—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Honourable members interjecting</span>—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Order! The Manager of Opposition Business will resume his seat. The House will come to order. If members are engaging in conversations, can they cease or leave the House? The manager will be heard in silence, and I give him the call.</span>
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                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr FLETCHER:</span>
                    </a>  Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Registered Organisations Commission together with the Australian Building and Construction Commission did an effective job in guarding against union misconduct and lawlessness in the construction industry. Amendments (1), (9) and (25) of those that I've moved would remove provisions in the bill which go to the abolition of the Registered Organisations Commission.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The opposition is also completely opposed to the abolition of the Australian Building and Construction Commission. We oppose this abolition because, effectively, it hands over control of the construction industry to the notoriously militant CFMMEU. The name of that union is a byword for bullying, intimidation, lawlessness, criminal conduct and thuggishness in the construction sector. When Labor last abolished the Australian Building and Construction Commission—they have form in this—two-thirds of working days lost to industrial action were in the construction industry. The abolition at that time caused the rate of disputes in the construction sector to increase by 46 per cent at a time when disputes in other sectors declined by 31 per cent. It is not okay, for example, for women in the construction industry to be targeted with sexist slurs and physical threats and that, sadly, is what we have consistently seen with the CFMMEU, and the Australian Building and Construction Commission has been an effective means of protecting against some of the worst of those excesses. Amendments (2) and (10) of those I've circulated would remove the provisions in the bill which abolish the Australian Building and Construction Commission.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The opposition is trenchantly opposed to the multi-employer bargaining provisions contained in this bill. They amount to Labor's intent to kill off enterprise bargaining and to replace it with a new centralised wage-fixing system and umpire. Amendments (3) to (8), (11) to (15), (23) to (24), (26) to (28) and (30) would remove all of the provisions in the bill relating to changes in multi-employer bargaining. We are opposed to the bill's expansion of the single interest stream that would allow the Fair Work Commission to authorise workers with common interests to bargain together. Business groups are united in their condemnation of the common interest provision being so broad as to be simply ridiculous. The mere fact of two businesses physically being located together would satisfy the very wide definition of 'common interest.' The ACCI, the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, said that this test exposes the Australian economy to sectorwide strike action, disrupting supply chains and key industries at a time of extraordinary global volatility. Amendments (16), (20) and (22) would implement this change.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We're opposed to the compulsion in the legislation of the single interest employer authorisation provisions. Amendments (17) and (19) give effect to our opposition to the government's compulsion provisions. We oppose the way the bill has dealt with the question of public interest; amendment (18) gives effect to our position there. 'Common interest' needs a clear definition; amendment (21) gives effect to that. Amendment (29) would provide for the minister to be required to conduct a review of the operation of the amended provisions of the act after they have operated for 12 months.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This is a truly dreadful bill which will take Australia back to the grim, dark days of the 1970s, with pattern bargaining, repeated strikes and a sluggish and unproductive economy. That is what we face, and our amendments seek to deal with the most egregious elements of this bill. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Before I call the Leader of the House, there is still far too much noise in the House. I give the call to the Leader of the House.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:13</span>):  Before I make my remarks, I need to ask a quick question of the mover, simply because I'm not sure if the version that's been circulated is the same as the one's that has been moved. It might have just been speaking notes or a late change, but the reference that was given to what's here as section 30 on the review was described in the speech as section 29. I don't know if that means the version that's circulated is different or if I've got the wrong one. I don't want to—</span>
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                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Fletcher:</span>
                    </a>  I can tell you that, when a small business—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Paul, you don't have the call.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Fletcher:</span>
                    </a>  is visited by the thugs of the CFMMEU carrying baseball bats, they're not going—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Order! You don't have the call. Resume your seat.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Honourable members interjecting</span>—</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Order! Members on my right! The minister for skills! I didn't hear what the Manager of Opposition Business was saying. There was a question raised. I'll give the call to the Leader of the House. I'm not sure if clarification has been sought—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr BURKE:</span>
                    </a>  No, it hasn't.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  but I'll give him the call, and he may continue with his speech.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr BURKE:</span>
                    </a>  For the benefit of the House, the description that was given of what section 29 says was wrong, and the description of what section 21 says is wrong. I don't know if that means he's moving something different, or whether what's been circulated is right and he gave the wrong speech. I think we can work on the basis that this amendment is not ready. I think we can also work on the basis that—</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Honourable members interjecting</span>—</span>
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                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr BURK</span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">E:</span>  I'm sure there are going to be more contributions, particularly from the crossbench—and this debate will continue into the Senate—on how you reasonably define a 'small business', and there is a reasonable conversation to be had there. But this amendment says small business exemptions should be given to anyone with up to 200 employees. 'Up to 200 employees' should be the definition of a small business! They've also attempted to take out altogether the low-paid-stream access to bargaining. So everything that's been said about feminised industries, about child care, about aged care, about getting wages moving in these sectors—they're taking all of that out. They also want to define a small business as 200 employees. On top of that, they're not quite sure what they're moving. We'll be opposing this. </span>
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                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The question is that the amendments moved by the Manager of Opposition Business—these are opposition amendments (1) to (31)—be disagreed to. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [10:20] <br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick) </p>
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                  <name>Bandt, A. P.</name>
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                  <name>Byrnes, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
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                  <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                  <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                  <name>Clare J. D.</name>
                  <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
                  <name>Coker, E. A.</name>
                  <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                  <name>Daniel, Z.</name>
                  <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Fernando, C.</name>
                  <name>Freelander, M. R.</name>
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                  <name>Georganas, S.</name>
                  <name>Giles, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Gorman, P.</name>
                  <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Haines, H. M.</name>
                  <name>Hill, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Husic, E. N.</name>
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                  <name>Katter, R. C.</name>
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                  <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                  <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                  <name>Le, D.</name>
                  <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                  <name>Lim, S. B. C.</name>
                  <name>Marles, R. D.</name>
                  <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
                  <name>McBain, K. L.</name>
                  <name>McBride, E. M.</name>
                  <name>Miller-Frost, L. J.</name>
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                  <name>Mitchell, R. G.</name>
                  <name>Mulino, D.</name>
                  <name>Neumann, S. K.</name>
                  <name>O'Connor, B. P. J.</name>
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                  <name>Payne, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Perrett, G. D.</name>
                  <name>Phillips, F. E.</name>
                  <name>Plibersek, T. J.</name>
                  <name>Rae, S. T.</name>
                  <name>Reid, G. J.</name>
                  <name>Repacholi, D. P.</name>
                  <name>Rishworth, A. L.</name>
                  <name>Roberts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Rowland, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, M. M.</name>
                  <name>Scamps, S. A.</name>
                  <name>Scrymgour, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Shorten, W. R.</name>
                  <name>Sitou, S.</name>
                  <name>Smith, D. P. B. (Teller)</name>
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                  <name>Swanson, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Templeman, S. R.</name>
                  <name>Thistlethwaite, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Thwaites, K. L.</name>
                  <name>Vamvakinou, M.</name>
                  <name>Watson-Brown, E.</name>
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                  <name>Boyce, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Broadbent, R. E.</name>
                  <name>Buchholz, S.</name>
                  <name>Chaney, K. E.</name>
                  <name>Coleman, D. B.</name>
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                  <name>Hawke, A. G.</name>
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                  <name>Leeser, J.</name>
                  <name>Ley, S. P.</name>
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                  <name>McCormack, M. F.</name>
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                  <name>Morrison, S. J.</name>
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                  <name>O'Brien, L. S.</name>
                  <name>Pearce, G. B.</name>
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                  <name>Sukkar, M. S.</name>
                  <name>Taylor, A. J.</name>
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                  <name>Tink, K. J.</name>
                  <name>Tudge, A. E.</name>
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                  <name>Violi, A. A.</name>
                  <name>Wallace, A. B.</name>
                  <name>Webster, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Willcox, A. J.</name>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed to. </p>
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                <page.no>43</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Wilkie, Andrew MP</name>
                <name.id>C2T</name.id>
                <electorate>Clark</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WILKIE</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) Schedule 1, item 426, page 113 (lines 12 and 13), omit the definition of <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">intersex status</span>.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) Schedule 1, item 426, page 113 (before line 14), before the definition of <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">special measure to achieve equality</span>, insert:</span>
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                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">sex characteristics</span> means a person's physical features and development relating to sex, and includes:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the person's genitalia and other sexual and reproductive parts of the person's anatomy; and</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) the person's chromosomes and genes; and</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(c) the person's hormones and secondary physical features emerging as a result of puberty.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3) Schedule 1, item 427, page 113 (line 17), omit "intersex status,", substitute "sex characteristics,".</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(4) Schedule 1, item 429, page 114 (line 3), omit "intersex status,", substitute "sex characteristics,".</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(5) Schedule 1, item 432, page 115 (line 3), omit "intersex status,", substitute "sex characteristics,".</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(6) Schedule 1, item 433, page 115 (line 6), omit "intersex status,", substitute "sex characteristics,".</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(7) Schedule 1, item 436, page 115 (line 23), omit "intersex status,", substitute "sex characteristics,".</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(8) Schedule 1, item 437, page 116 (line 23), omit "intersex status", substitute "sex characteristics".</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These amendments quite simply replace the words 'intersex status' with 'sex characteristics' in the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022. They have been drafted in consultation with the peak organisation representing intersex people, that's the Intersex Human Rights Australia organisation, and LGBTQI+ advocates Rodney Croome AM and Alistair Lawrie. The terminology is also endorsed by the intersex community through the Darlington Statement and the 'Yogyakarta Principles plus 10.' This is a very important amendment because not everyone who has variations of their sex characteristics may identify as intersex. But they still deserve protection from discrimination, not least because the experiences of people with variations of sex characteristics can be harrowing. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Indeed, according to Intersex Human Rights Australia, a 2015 Australian survey of 272 people born with atypical sex characteristics found many individual and systemic examples of discrimination. For example: '19 per cent of people born with atypical sex characteristics fail to complete secondary school, due to reasons including the impact of medical interventions during puberty, stigmatisation and bullying on grounds of sex characteristics and unaddressed issues associated with developmental delays.' </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Good discrimination law focuses on people's attributes rather than just lumping people into one group. For example, our antidiscrimination laws protect people of all sexual orientations not just people who identify as gay. In the same way, this amendment would protect all people with variations of their sex characteristics not just people who identify as intersex. Very relevant is that other Australian jurisdictions already recognise this matter and have acted on it, with Victoria, the ACT and Tasmania now using the term 'sex characteristics'. The Northern Territory has also adopted the wording in its Anti-Discrimination Amendment Bill 2022 currently before the Northern Territory parliament. Furthermore, the Law Reform Commission of Western Australia and Queensland Human Rights Commission have recommended 'sex characteristics' as the preferred term. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge that supporting this amendment could be regarded as problematic by the government because the federal Sex Discrimination Act has included the term 'intersex status' since 2013. I also acknowledge that during debate on a Greens' amendment to the Sex Discrimination and Fair Work (Respect at Work) Amendment Bill 2021, that would have replaced the words 'intersex status' with 'sex characteristics', Labor indicated it would not support the amendment because it would cause inconsistency with other legislation such as the Sex Discrimination Act. But two wrongs don't make a right. So the government should either support this amendment and then move quickly to also amend the Sex Discrimination Act and any other relevant antidiscrimination legislation or, at least, make a rock-solid commitment today to soon amend both the secure jobs, better pay bill and the Sex Discrimination Act and any other relevant antidiscrimination legislation. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The substance of this straightforward amendment is inherently important and very meaningful to many people. It's been advocated for many years, certainly as far back as the creation of the Sex Discrimination Act in 2013. So, please, I say to the government: let's do this and do it today. </span>
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                <page.no>44</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Bates, Stephen MP</name>
                <name.id>300246</name.id>
                <electorate>Brisbane</electorate>
                <party>AG</party>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BATES</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Brisbane</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:27</span>):  I'd like to speak specifically to this bill's inclusion of protection from discrimination on the basis of gender identity in the Fair Work Act. I'd like to commend the government for taking these critical steps to protect groups who experience severe levels of workplace discrimination, and I want to thank the member for Clark for moving this amendment to ensure that best-practice language for the intersex community is used in this bill, as the Greens have recommended for years. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Studies have shown that only 22 per cent of gender diverse people feel comfortable to be open about their gender identity with their colleagues. Just over 43 per cent reported being deliberately misgendered within the workplace in the last year, and this bill would go some of the way to ensuring gender diverse people feel safer in the workplace, allowing them to feel more comfortable and secure in themselves. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Protection on the basis of gender identity is a welcomed commitment from the government. Although I welcome their intention in taking steps to protect the intersex community, protection on the basis of intersex status does not go far enough. For intersex people to be fully protected from discrimination, we must protect them against discrimination on the basis of sex characteristics. This is best-practice language and it protects intersex people at all stages of development and widens the scope of protection for intersex people. It's language that Intersex Human Rights Australia has called on the government to implement. Further, it's language recommend by the Queensland Human Rights Commission and the Law Reform Commission of Western Australia to best protect intersex people. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">All members of the LGBTQIA+ community deserve to feel safe and protected in their workplaces, including gender diverse and intersex people. I call on the government to update all antidiscrimination legislation to adequately protect intersex people. </span>
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                <page.no>44</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">BURKE</span> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:29</span>):  My response to this amendment is probably quite different to how I've responded to any of the other amendments in that this amendment is actually seeking to do something that I originally requested during the drafting stage of this bill. The explanation that the member for Clark gave of the process and the interaction with the Sex Discrimination Act was a problem that I was presented with, and the reason why we can't support the amendment in this form.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the first instance, I want to make clear: the government makes no argument of principle in any way against any of the two contributions that were just made by the member for Clark and the member for Brisbane. In the second instance, the intention to get best-practice language here so that people are properly covered is a commitment that is shared by those who've spoken with the government.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Before I knew this amendment was coming—this was during the drafting stages—as soon as I hit this problem of the interaction with the Sex Discrimination Act I raised the issue personally with the Attorney-General, because it was the Attorney-General's Department that had raised it with my department. The intention was made clear to me then, by the Attorney-General, that the government does intend to bring in legislation that will deal with this issue across all relevant legislation at once. Being able to do that avoids any problems with the different parts of legislation not interacting properly.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It's a strange one in terms of saying that we won't support the amendment but it's on the basis that we accept completely the arguments that have been put, and want to be able to bring forward government legislation that addresses it consistently across all relevant acts.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The question is the amendments moved by the member for Clark be disagreed to.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to, Mrs Archer and Mr Wilkie dissenting.</span>
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            <interjection>
              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>44</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>53517</name.id>
                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
                </talker>
              </talk.start>
              <talk.text>
              </talk.text>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>44</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Sharkie, Rebekha MP</name>
                <name.id>265980</name.id>
                <electorate>Mayo</electorate>
                <party>CA</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="265980" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SHARKIE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mayo</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:32</span>):  I move amendments (1) and (2) together:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">That the following words be added after the words 90 days:   <br clear="all">.</br>"; and</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1)parts 1, 2 and 3 of the bill are added to the inquiry; and</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2)calls on the Government to change the definition of a small business from 15 to 100 employees".</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The purpose of this amendment is to amend section 23 of the Fair Work Act with the effect of changing the definition of a small business. Currently, section 23 defines a small business as a business comprising of 15 employees or less. Casuals are not included in this count unless there is a systematic or regular nature to their employment. For most businesses this would mean most, if not all, of their casual the employees would be included in the employee count for the purposes of defining a small business.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My amendment seeks to change the number of employees that define a small business from 15 to 100. The rationale for this change is simple. Businesses with fewer than 100 staff do not have the human resources departments, they do not have the pay roster, they simply do not have capacity to expend resources—financial and human—to negotiate enterprise bargaining agreements that this bill will potentially force upon them. Without this change we are relegating the thousands of mum-and-dad businesses and entrepreneurial enterprises to an immediate future of costly union-led negotiations. These businesses, many of which are still trying to recover from COVID-19, cannot afford the time or the financial resources.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What we're looking at here is staff with a threshold of 15. Now, let me tell you: right across Australia, this is going to capture fruit-and-vegetable stores; this is going to capture independent service stations; this is going to capture independent and small supermarkets, IGAs. This bill is, I think, unwittingly pitting mum-and-dad operators against unions.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Let me tell you what small businesses are doing on their Saturday night. They don't have HR departments. They are doing the payroll themselves on a Saturday night or a Sunday. They simply cannot afford this.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What's going to happen to those businesses that have 15 or 16 staff, or perhaps even up to 20, is they're going to contract their staffing numbers to make sure that they have fewer than 15. That's going to mean job losses for those 15-year-olds and 16-year-olds that are working at the fruit and veg store every Sunday because on Saturday they're playing sport. This bill is really concerning, so I'm trying to remedy it in some way to take small business out of it. This government is setting up small business for a David and Goliath battle, where David is the small business and Goliath is the unions. I'm afraid that in this contest David will not be the victor. </span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>45</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:35</span>):  I want to thank the member for Mayo for bringing this issue forward. A number of members of the crossbench here and in the other place have been raising different ways of dealing with the small business exemption. Some have raised it through a shift from headcount to full-time equivalents. Some have raised it as a change in the numbers. I'll be up-front here: the government's preference is to keep it at a headcount of 15, which is where we've got it. I respect that, in the passage of both houses, there'll be different negotiations that'll happen on that. I appreciate that, particularly for a number of the crossbenchers, a shift on this area is an absolutely critical issue, and that's been conveyed to me. I also acknowledge that, for a large number, there are other issues in the bill that they passionately support. But this is something where they need to stand up for their electorates. I simply want to acknowledge that but make clear that the government will be opposing the amendments that seek to change where the small business exemption is, with an understanding that the debate on this will probably continue as it goes through the other place. </span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>45</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
                <name.id>L6B</name.id>
                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FLETCHER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:36</span>):  I indicate that the opposition will be supporting this amendment. We are extremely concerned about the impact on small businesses of this set of radical industrial relations changes. Indeed, in our own set of amendments we proposed for that reason that the threshold be set at 200 full-time equivalent employees. The minister laughed at that; he thought that was funny. We don't think it's funny that small businesses are facing the threat of getting dragged into extensive and onerous negotiation processes so that they are going to have to devote their time—the time of the owner who is also the chief information officer, also the chief financial officer, also the head of human resources, also the general counsel—to all of these functions for which large businesses have a team of specialists, and certainly industrial relations or workplace relations is one of those areas. In small business the entrepreneur who set up that business and is creating employment faces that burden on a daily basis because they have to do all of these other things. Around Australia there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of small businesses that now face the prospect of having to deal with the unions and the Fair Work Commission as compulsory participants in their business. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I absolutely endorse what the member for Mayo has said. The coalition is extremely concerned about the impact of these changes on small businesses. The mindset from those opposite is that every enterprise of any size has unlimited funds, unlimited resources, and all they need to do is get in there with a bit of persuasion from the CFMEU—'We've come around with our baseball bats to make you see reason.' They want to shake down businesses of all kinds. As far as they're concerned, businesses are endlessly profitable. Small businesses are run by proprietors who are working long hours, often working through the weekend, to give their employees opportunities. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are so many stories of small business proprietors who, when times are tough, make sure that their employees get paid and continue to have a job, while the employer, the small business, might take an increase to their mortgage, might get extra finance to keep the business going. The member for Mallee brought together small businesses from her electorate just yesterday. I talked to a chocolate manufacturer who told me about the great work she's done building a business and how satisfying it is to be able to employ young people in her country town and give them employment opportunities. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Business owners like that around the country are facing significant threat and risk as a consequence of this intrusive legislation which is going to greatly expand the role of unions and bring them uninvited into small businesses around the country. This is a disastrously retrograde step. I absolutely endorse the observations of the member for Mayo about the perverse incentives that this now creates for small businesses to seek to shrink down below a threshold, leading to employment being lost—quite the opposite of the baseless claims that have been made by the government about the consequence of this legislation. So, the opposition will be supporting the amendment proposed by the member for Mayo. </span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>46</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Katter, Bob MP</name>
                <name.id>HX4</name.id>
                <electorate>Kennedy</electorate>
                <party>KAP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="HX4" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr KATTER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kennedy</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:40</span>):  The crossbenchers here are not plugging as a group for the union movement; nor are we anti union movement. So, you're getting from the crossbenchers a more objective point of view on the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022. And it's interesting that I think four of us are moving to exclude small business. Seriously, there's a problem if the vast bulk of the people who are non-committed on these broader issues are taking a position that small business needs to be excluded. I explained to the government: the Liberal Party introduced the GST, and that was just dreadful for small business. I'm not making an attack on the ALP as opposed to the others here on small business, because both are guilty. But let me just give this example. Tim Fischer, former leader of the National Party, went to Julia Creek and said, 'The GST will be good for you all,' and they started screaming: 'It's just more for work small business! We just can't handle any more work!' The lady who owned the hardware store burst out crying, and she's a tough lady. I went around and saw her the next morning. She said: 'The tradies come in. They work till six o'clock at night, so they're coming in and out of our hardware store till six o'clock at night.' She said: 'I race home to get the meals for everyone, and then I do the books for the business. My husband's a builder, so I do his books and the hardware store books, and I'm up till well after midnight. The tradies want to get on the job at six o'clock the next morning, so I have to get up at half past five.' And she said, at the thought of doing another hour or two hours of work: 'I just burst out crying. I just couldn't stop.'</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I mean, you don't understand that. You people on that side of the House simply do not understand that. The introduction of that GST did exactly what they are accusing you people of doing here—exactly the same thing. But there really isn't a feeling for small business. Woolworths and Coles are allowed to go into newsagencies, they're allowed to go into butcher shops, they're allowed to go into every single area of the economy and wipe out small business right across the board—15 inquiries into them, all a joke; you just rubber-stamp them. So, we don't want any more hypocrisy. But I strongly support not only my colleague here but all the other colleagues on the crossbench, who are all moving exactly the same sorts of resolutions. Please excuse us all for repetitiveness, but we're not a party, so each one of us does our own thing. But each one of us has come to the conclusion that small business has got to be excluded, and it's not excluded here in this legislation. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The question is the amendments moved by the honourable member for Mayo, circulated in her name, be disagreed to.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
                </p>
              </body>
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              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>46</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>53517</name.id>
                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
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              </talk.start>
              <talk.text>
              </talk.text>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [10:48]<br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick)</p>
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                  <name>Bandt, A. P.</name>
                  <name>Bates, S. J.</name>
                  <name>Bowen, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Burke, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Burnell, M. P.</name>
                  <name>Burns, J.</name>
                  <name>Butler, M. C.</name>
                  <name>Byrnes, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
                  <name>Chandler-Mather, M.</name>
                  <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                  <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                  <name>Clare J. D.</name>
                  <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
                  <name>Coker, E. A.</name>
                  <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                  <name>Daniel, Z.</name>
                  <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Fernando, C.</name>
                  <name>Freelander, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                  <name>Georganas, S.</name>
                  <name>Giles, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Gorman, P.</name>
                  <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Hill, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Husic, E. N.</name>
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                  <name>Kearney, G. M.</name>
                  <name>Keogh, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Khalil, P.</name>
                  <name>King, C. F.</name>
                  <name>King, M. M. H.</name>
                  <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                  <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                  <name>Le, D.</name>
                  <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                  <name>Lim, S. B. C.</name>
                  <name>Marles, R. D.</name>
                  <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
                  <name>McBain, K. L.</name>
                  <name>McBride, E. M.</name>
                  <name>Miller-Frost, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, B. K.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, R. G.</name>
                  <name>Mulino, D.</name>
                  <name>Neumann, S. K.</name>
                  <name>O'Connor, B. P. J.</name>
                  <name>O'Neil, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Payne, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Perrett, G. D.</name>
                  <name>Phillips, F. E.</name>
                  <name>Plibersek, T. J.</name>
                  <name>Rae, S. T.</name>
                  <name>Reid, G. J.</name>
                  <name>Repacholi, D. P.</name>
                  <name>Rishworth, A. L.</name>
                  <name>Roberts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Rowland, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, M. M.</name>
                  <name>Scrymgour, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Shorten, W. R.</name>
                  <name>Sitou, S.</name>
                  <name>Smith, D. P. B. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Stanley, A. M. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Swanson, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Templeman, S. R.</name>
                  <name>Thistlethwaite, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Thwaites, K. L.</name>
                  <name>Vamvakinou, M.</name>
                  <name>Watson-Brown, E.</name>
                  <name>Watts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Wells, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Wilkie, A. D.</name>
                  <name>Wilson, J. H.</name>
                  <name>Zappia, A.</name>
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                  <name>Bell, A. M.</name>
                  <name>Birrell, S. J.</name>
                  <name>Boyce, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Broadbent, R. E.</name>
                  <name>Buchholz, S.</name>
                  <name>Chaney, K. E.</name>
                  <name>Coleman, D. B.</name>
                  <name>Conaghan, P. J.</name>
                  <name>Coulton, M. M. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Dutton, P. C.</name>
                  <name>Fletcher, P. W.</name>
                  <name>Gee, A. R.</name>
                  <name>Gillespie, D. A.</name>
                  <name>Goodenough, I. R. </name>
                  <name>Haines, H. M.</name>
                  <name>Hamilton, G. R.</name>
                  <name>Hastie, A. W.</name>
                  <name>Joyce, B. T. G.</name>
                  <name>Katter, R. C.</name>
                  <name>Landry, M. L.</name>
                  <name>Leeser, J.</name>
                  <name>Ley, S. P.</name>
                  <name>Littleproud, D.</name>
                  <name>Marino, N. B.</name>
                  <name>McCormack, M. F.</name>
                  <name>McIntosh, M. I.</name>
                  <name>Morrison, S. J.</name>
                  <name>O'Brien, E. L.</name>
                  <name>Pearce, G. B.</name>
                  <name>Pike, H. J.</name>
                  <name>Pitt, K. J.</name>
                  <name>Ramsey, R. E. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Robert, S. R.</name>
                  <name>Scamps, S. A.</name>
                  <name>Sharkie, R. C. C.</name>
                  <name>Spender, A. M.</name>
                  <name>Steggall, Z.</name>
                  <name>Stevens, J.</name>
                  <name>Sukkar, M. S.</name>
                  <name>Taylor, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Tehan, D. T.</name>
                  <name>Thompson, P.</name>
                  <name>Tudge, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Vasta, R. X.</name>
                  <name>Violi, A. A.</name>
                  <name>Wallace, A. B.</name>
                  <name>Webster, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Willcox, A. J.</name>
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                  <name>Wolahan, K.</name>
                  <name>Wood, J. P.</name>
                  <name>Young, T. J.</name>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed to.</p>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>47</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Le, Dai MP</name>
                <name.id>295676</name.id>
                <electorate>Fowler</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="295676" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fowler</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:53</span>):  by leave—I move:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) Clause 2, page 5 (table item 32), omit "Part 25", substitute "Parts 25 and 25AA".</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) Schedule 1, page 228 (after line 26), after Part 25, insert:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Part 25AA</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">—</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Having regard to certain additional matters in performing functions</span>
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                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">Fair Work Act 2009</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">659AA Section 577</span>
                  </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Before "The FWC", insert "(1)".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">659AB At the end of section 577</span>
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                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Add:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) In performing its functions under paragraph 576(2)(b), the FWC must have regard to:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45.4pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the need for guidelines and other materials to be available in multiple languages; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45.4pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) the need for community outreach in multiple languages.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">659AC After subsection 682(1)</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Insert:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1A) In performing functions under paragraph (1)(a), the Fair Work Ombudsman must have regard to:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45.4pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the need for guidelines and other materials to be available in multiple languages; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45.4pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) the need for community outreach in multiple languages.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It's great that we're seeing a debate about the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022 here in the House. As a first-term MP, it's great to see that the debate is robust and that it's done in a safe and respectful manner in the 47th Parliament—so far!</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Let me be clear: I'm not opposed to wage increases for hardworking Australians. As a matter of fact, many in my electorate of Fowler who work in child care, teaching, nursing and low-paid jobs will benefit tremendously. They need this, as we're facing a cost-of-living crisis. However, any wage increase must be done fairly, equitably and in a way that does not have unintended consequences for lower-socioeconomic communities and for multicultural communities that are built on small, family-run business. In my Fowler electorate, there are currently over 18,000 trading small businesses, with the majority owned and managed by migrants and refugees. In fact, one in three small businesses are run by migrants and refugees, who are the most entrepreneurial of all small business owners and who are most likely to start their own business.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What plans are in place to communicate the IR changes and reforms to the non-English-speaking communities? My amendments seek to ensure that the Fair Work Commission takes into consideration the need to provide guidelines and community outreach programs in other languages, to support our culturally diverse communities in order to run their businesses. Are we going to have to face another situation like the Western Sydney COVID lockdowns, when no-one in Fowler was given access to information in the appropriate language until it was too late?</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Let me remind the House again that my electorate of Fowler has one of the lowest median income rates in the country. The median wage of people in my electorate is 20 per cent less than the national average. When it comes to reforms like this one, we have often been ignored, neglected and forgotten. If we are to be a truly inclusive and diverse society, we need to ensure that reforms like this are meaningful to the 52 per cent of my electorate who are born overseas. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I cannot stand by while my diverse and multicultural community is ignored yet again. We must create a pathway that clears confusion and prevents language barriers from misleading people on any political reforms. I don't need to remind the people in this House that small business is the backbone of the Australian economy.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">My community was built on the shoulders of migrants and refugees who came to this country seeking better opportunities for themselves and their families. We have more than 130 nationalities, with many of these people running some type of business—from a banh mi bakery to a pho noodle restaurant or a pearl milk tea store. They're hardworking small-business owners. However, as it currently stands, small business is defined as having 15 employees—including casuals—under the Fair Work Act. That means if my local Vietnamese pho restaurant employs 16 people, they could be forced to enter multi-employer bargaining situations when they lack the time, resources and funds to do so.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We should resolve this issue by amending the definition of a 'small business'. Instead of capping the total at 15 people, I would propose that any business that employs less than 20 full-time employees is a small business. But first and foremost, we must address the issue of interpretation, language translation and community outreach within diverse communities. It's true that Australia is one, and it is many. We are a country of many people, many languages and many backgrounds. Acknowledging this is critical to any further discussions on the bill.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I, like many of my crossbench colleagues, have raised that a bill this complex requires more consultation, more time and more collaboration. Once again, while I acknowledge the government wants to keep its election promise to deliver wage increases by the end of the year—there's about six weeks to go—then they should push the most agreeable part of the bill through first and give us the opportunity to consult with our local businesses in respect of the multi-employer bargaining section of the bill. I think that's only fair. We are, after all, a fair, democratic country. Thank you.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>48</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">M</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">inister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:57</span>):  I thank the member for Fowler for the amendment. In particular, I thank the member for Fowler for confining the amendment itself to the issues about community languages. I respect, in the speech that was given, there are other issues the member for Fowler's deeply concerned about, including the small-business exemption and how that's defined, but I do appreciate the amendment has been put in a form that allows the government to be able to support it.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">At the moment, the Fair Work Ombudsman have about 30 languages where they are doing this. The Fair Work Commission operates more through an interpreter service as to how they deal with community languages at the moment. But as we both know, because our communities are not that different, and I'm pleased the member for Fowler referred to the lockdown period of the pandemic, there was a period where information was not being provided in community languages when it needed to be. So this puts into the Fair Work Act a requirement as to what's expected, and the government's very happy to back that. The government thanks the member for Fowler for bringing it forward.</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>48</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
                <name.id>L6B</name.id>
                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FLETCHER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Op</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">position Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:58</span>):  The opposition will be pleased to support the amendment moved by the member for Fowler, which is based upon her strong representation of her electorate and her own lived experience. It's an important amendment, and I rather suspect that, had circumstances been different and had the member for Fowler been somebody who'd been parachuted in from the leafy Northern Beaches—from Scotland Island, in fact—this useful contribution might not have been made.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Question agreed to.</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>49</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Spender, Allegra MP</name>
                <name.id>286042</name.id>
                <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="286042" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">SPENDER</span> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wentworth</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:59</span>):  by leave—I move amendments (1) to (20) as circulated in my name:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) Clause 2, page 4 (table item 21), omit the table item.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) Schedule 1, item 463, page 132 (line 16), omit paragraph 65B(4)(a), substitute:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the FWC must deal with the dispute and, in the first instance, must deal with the dispute by conciliation; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3) Schedule 1, item 463, page 132 (lines 19 to 22), omit the note, substitute:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">Note: See also subsection 595(2) for the FWC's power to deal with disputes.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(4) Schedule 1, Part 15, page 162 (lines 1 to 27), omit the Part.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(5) Schedule 1, item 538, page 173 (after line 9), after the definition of <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">intractable bargaining workplace determination</span>, insert:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">intractable dispute</span>: see subsection 234(3).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(6) Schedule 1, item 543, page 174 (line 6), after "agreement", insert "if there is an intractable dispute about the agreement".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(7) Schedule 1, item 543, page 174 (after line 14), at the end of section 234, add:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45.4pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3) For the purposes of subsection (1), the regulations must prescribe what constitutes an <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;">intractable dispute</span>.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45.4pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(4) Before the Governor-General makes regulations for the purposes of subsection (3), the Minister must be satisfied that an appropriate level of consultation has been undertaken with relevant employer and employee groups.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(8) Schedule 1, item 543, page 174 (after line 27), after paragraph 235(2)(a), insert:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(aa) before the FWC dealt with the dispute about the agreement under section 240, the position of each bargaining representative for the agreement was fair and reasonable; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      56.75pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(ab) the bargaining representatives for the agreement have met the good faith bargaining requirements; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(9) Schedule 1, item 597, page 194 (line 29), at the end of paragraph 216BA(3)(b), add "or that passed its nominal expiry date less than 12 months before the application for the variation under section 216B was made".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(10) Schedule 1, item 629, page 203 (lines 5 to 27), omit section 216DB.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(11) Schedule 1, item 629, page 204 (line 5), omit "or 216DB".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(12) Schedule 1, item 629, page 204 (line 26), omit "section 216DD; and", substitute "section 216DD.".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(13) Schedule 1, item 629, page 204 (line 27) to page 205 (line 2), omit paragraph 216DC(1)(e).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(14) Schedule 1, item 629, page 205 (lines 12 to 15), omit subsection 216DC(3).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(15) Schedule 1, item 629, page 205 (lines 17 to 22), omit subsection 216DC(4), substitute:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45.4pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(4) Despite subsection (1), the FWC must not approve the variation if the employer is excluded for the purposes of the agreement by an order under section 178C.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(16) Schedule 1, item 629, page 206 (line 26), omit "or 216DB".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(17) Schedule 1, item 634, page 208 (line 27), omit "is not a small business employer", substitute "employs at least 100 full-time equivalent employees".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(18) Schedule 1, item 639, page 211 (line 32), omit "is not a small business employer", substitute "employs at least 100 full-time equivalent employees".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(19) Schedule 1, item 660, page 240 (after line 24), at the end of Part 13, add:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Division 20</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">—</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Review of operation of amendments</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">85 Review of </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">operation of amendments</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45.4pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) The Minister must cause a review of the operation of the amendments made by Schedule 1 to the amending Act to be conducted by an independent expert as soon as practicable after the end of the period of 12 months starting on the day the amending Act receives the Royal Assent.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45.4pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) The person who conducts the review must give the Minister a written report of the review no later than the end of the period of 15 months starting on the day the amending Act receives the Royal Assent.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      45.4pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3) The Minister must cause a copy of the report to be tabled in each House of the Parliament within 15 sitting days of that House after the report is given to the Minister</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(20) Schedule 1, item 661, page 241 (line 20), omit "paragraphs 216D(1)(b) and 216DB(1)(b)", substitute "paragraph 216D(1)(b)".</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These amendments seek to make the bill better. I do not seek to undermine the government's stated intentions at all. My amendments will not interfere with wage rises for low-wage workers, affect gender equality, or impose unnecessary barriers to making agreements These are laudable aims and I support them 100 per cent. My amendments, however, will make this bill more workable for businesses, particularly small businesses, who have had an incredibly tough time in recent years. It will make it more workable for workers, who desperately need a pay rise to cope with the rising cost of living.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Many of the concerns of this bill can be undone with one simple amendment: let businesses consent to multi-party bargains in the single interest stream. No business group in the country supports compulsory engagement in multi-party bargaining. No business group in the country supports this, not even COSBOA, which was the first business group to consider the value of multi-party bargaining—never under any circumstances did they say this should this be compulsory for business. When we are heading into tumultuous economic times, it is absolutely reckless to ignore the legitimate concerns of business. It is reckless to ignore the Productivity Commission, who in their report said:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">any changes to the [Fair Work] Act to increase the use of multi-employer and industry/sector wide bargaining are likely to have uncertain implications for productivity … and should be undertaken with caution and be subjected to detailed, rigorous and transparent analysis.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Productivity is absolutely vital for wage growth, and we should listen to the Productivity Commission when considering this.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Will a small grocery store be forced into an agreement that suits Coles and Woolworths? We don't know. Will these changes actually increase wages when agreements are made that may stop a business from changing their business model to meet the needs of their time? We just don't know. The truth is, we do not know the full implications of this legislation, and businesses in my electorate don't even realise that they're going to be subject to it. If the government will not take the time to properly consult on this bill, and properly work with business to come up with solutions that will work for business and workers to drive productivity and wage growth, then we need to make this change.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Many have also spoken about the importance of small business in this country, and many people in this House have businesses in their electorates that would say 15 staff does not make you a medium business. These businesses should not be treated as if they were. I'm seeking an amendment that would raise the threshold of businesses to 100 full-time equivalent staff. Businesses below this level don't have HR teams, and they're fundamentally different to big businesses.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge that the government has shifted on a grace period for six months, but that is not long enough for business. We should extend that period to 12 months and a more realistic time frame for negotiations to be concluded. I support the government's desire to increase workplace flexibility. However, I believe that we should always move to conciliation before we go to arbitration, and so I seek that we require conciliation before subjecting parties to arbitration and the very significant cost that it entails. In intractable disputes, my amendments would help prevent gaming or other mischief. They simply require the minister to define 'intractable', require the parties to engage in good faith, and require Fair Work Commission to be satisfied that the position of each party is fair and reasonable before arbitration commences.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally—and I think this is crucial—my amendments require an independent review of the bill after 12 months. Sally McManus made the point to me the other day that parliament tends to ignore industrial relations once a significant reform has been made, and so we miss the opportunity to refine legislation after commencement. That is a mistake, but one that we can rectify by ensuring a review of these changes is taken in due course.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government is determined to pass this bill in a month. It is a huge risk. It is a national experiment in changing workplace relations at a time when our economy is fragile. Wage growth is too low and has been too low for too long. I want to see higher wages, but I don't want to see small business closing or unemployment rising, and I really don't want to see a wage-price spiral where higher wages are eaten up by rolling economywide price hikes. That would be the worst possible outcome. The government should do the responsible thing and limit the scope of the experiment. Order. We should not risk that today.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>50</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employmen</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">t and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:04</span>):  I thank the member for Wentworth both for bringing these issues forward to the House and also for the conversations that we've had, back and forth, leading up to the debate this morning. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">First of all, I'll just go through a couple of the issues, if I may. The advice that we've been given is that in the structure of the act the arbitration clauses that are already there do presume conciliation before arbitration, and that has been the practice of the commission. So, in terms of the intention that's being sought with the amendment and the importance of conciliation being provided first, that is something that the government shares. It's been how the Fair Work Act has operated, and it is our expectation that it would continue to do so. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to explain the difference in view when it comes to whether, from the employer perspective, it should be opt-in only. It's very much a different policy view, which is appropriately ventilated here. If you start with single enterprise bargaining, the concept there—while it's rarely used—is that bargaining can be initiated by either side of the bargaining table. It can be initiated by the employer or it can be initiated by the workforce. If initiated by the workforce, it's called a majority support determination. They very rarely get up, but sometimes they do. The principle behind it is to say that we're trying to have a bargain of equals. That's what we're trying to have; we're trying to have a sensible conversation between the employer and the employees, and either side of that conversation can initiate it. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">That's the same principle that we want to bring to multi-employer bargaining. One of the reasons that I brought forward the government amendment that was carried earlier with the voting provision change was to make sure that we did not end up with a situation where, at any individual workplace, neither the employer nor the workforce had voted in favour of being part of it. We are wanting to keep to that principle that is currently there in single enterprise bargaining. That is, quite simply, that either side of the negotiation can initiate it. To have a situation where it's opt-in only—the cooperative stream is opt-in only; there is one stream that is designed specifically for that purpose—but to not have a mechanism where the workforce can initiate a negotiation, but the employer can, takes away from the concept of what we're trying to get here. The strength of agreements is that they end up being able to deliver both the wage rises and the flexibility or productivity improvements because you've had a negotiation where both sides had a level of power in that conversation. It's for that reason that we want to maintain the majority support determination principle and it being possible for a workforce to say, 'We want to be part of this.'</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, with respect to the independent review, it gives me a chance to say publicly what I have said privately to the member for Wentworth and to many on the crossbench: I do believe the act should have an independent review, and I'm supportive of there being an independent review. What I don't want to do is have a situation where we adopt an independent review in good faith in this place and then go to the Senate and in Senate negotiations we end up with a different independent review, which would then look like bad faith in terms of what had been discussed here. I am very happy, as a result of it having been raised, to commit the government to the fact that there will be an independent review. The exact timing—whether it's a longer one with a halfway point of reporting, or exactly how it works—is something I would rather do in a single negotiation when it gets to the other place. I suspect the relationships between the crossbench here and the crossbench there mean that we should be able to get to a sensible position. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">So the government will be opposing the amendment, for the reasons I explained about the opt-in principle, but I thought it was important just to make clear our view of the conciliation provisions and also the undertaking on an independent review. </span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>51</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
                <name.id>L6B</name.id>
                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FLETCHER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:09</span>):  I indicate that the opposition will be supporting the amendments moved by the member for Wentworth, which are another attempt the deal with some of the egregious failures and fundamental policy problems within this bill. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The question is that the amendments moved by the honourable member for Wentworth, circulated in her name, Nos (1) to (20), be disagreed to.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
                </p>
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              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>51</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>53517</name.id>
                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
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              </talk.start>
              <talk.text>
              </talk.text>
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              <body>
                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [11:13]<br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick)</p>
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                <num.votes>80</num.votes>
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                  <name>Ananda-Rajah, M.</name>
                  <name>Bandt, A. P.</name>
                  <name>Bates, S. J.</name>
                  <name>Bowen, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Burke, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Burnell, M. P.</name>
                  <name>Burns, J.</name>
                  <name>Butler, M. C.</name>
                  <name>Byrnes, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
                  <name>Chandler-Mather, M.</name>
                  <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                  <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                  <name>Clare J. D.</name>
                  <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
                  <name>Coker, E. A.</name>
                  <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                  <name>Daniel, Z.</name>
                  <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Fernando, C.</name>
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                  <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                  <name>Georganas, S.</name>
                  <name>Giles, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Gorman, P.</name>
                  <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Haines, H. M.</name>
                  <name>Hill, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Husic, E. N.</name>
                  <name>Jones, S. P.</name>
                  <name>Katter, R. C.</name>
                  <name>Kearney, G. M.</name>
                  <name>Keogh, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Khalil, P.</name>
                  <name>King, C. F.</name>
                  <name>King, M. M. H.</name>
                  <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                  <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                  <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                  <name>Lim, S. B. C.</name>
                  <name>Marles, R. D.</name>
                  <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
                  <name>McBain, K. L.</name>
                  <name>McBride, E. M.</name>
                  <name>Miller-Frost, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, B. K.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, R. G.</name>
                  <name>Mulino, D.</name>
                  <name>Neumann, S. K.</name>
                  <name>O'Connor, B. P. J.</name>
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                  <name>Payne, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Perrett, G. D.</name>
                  <name>Phillips, F. E.</name>
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                  <name>Rae, S. T.</name>
                  <name>Reid, G. J.</name>
                  <name>Repacholi, D. P.</name>
                  <name>Rishworth, A. L.</name>
                  <name>Roberts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Rowland, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, M. M.</name>
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                  <name>Broadbent, R. E.</name>
                  <name>Buchholz, S.</name>
                  <name>Chaney, K. E.</name>
                  <name>Coleman, D. B.</name>
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                  <name>Dutton, P. C.</name>
                  <name>Fletcher, P. W.</name>
                  <name>Gee, A. R.</name>
                  <name>Gillespie, D. A.</name>
                  <name>Goodenough, I. R. </name>
                  <name>Hamilton, G. R.</name>
                  <name>Hastie, A. W.</name>
                  <name>Hawke, A. G.</name>
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                  <name>Landry, M. L.</name>
                  <name>Leeser, J.</name>
                  <name>Ley, S. P.</name>
                  <name>Littleproud, D.</name>
                  <name>Marino, N. B.</name>
                  <name>McCormack, M. F.</name>
                  <name>McIntosh, M. I.</name>
                  <name>Morrison, S. J.</name>
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                  <name>O'Brien, L. S.</name>
                  <name>Pearce, G. B.</name>
                  <name>Pike, H. J.</name>
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                  <name>Tehan, D. T.</name>
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                  <name>Tudge, A. E.</name>
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                  <name>Wallace, A. B.</name>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed to.</p>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>52</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Steggall, Zali MP</name>
                <name.id>175696</name.id>
                <electorate>Warringah</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
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            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="175696" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms STEGGALL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Warringah</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:18</span>):  by leave—I move amendments (1) to (7), as circulated in my name:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) Schedule 1, item 597, page 194 (line 29), at the end of subsection 216BA(3), add:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">; or (c) the employer's productivity will be adversely affected by the agreement.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2) Schedule 1, item 629, page 204 (lines 29 and 30), omit "is not a small business employer", substitute "employs more than 50 full-time equivalent employees".</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3) Schedule 1, item 629, page 205 (line 2), at the end of paragraph 216DC(1)(e), add:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">; and (iv) the employer's productivity will not be adversely affected by the agreement.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(4) Schedule 1, item 634, page 208 (line 27), omit "is not a small business employer", substitute "employs more than 50 full-time equivalent employees".</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(5) Schedule 1, item 634, page 209 (line 16), at the end of subsection 249(3C), add:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">; (d) the economic circumstances of the employers' enterprises;</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(e) the relative size and scope of the employers' enterprises;</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">(f) the extent to which the employers operate collaboratively rather than competitively.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(6) Schedule 1, item 634, page 209 (after line 22), after subsection 249(3D), insert:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">Public </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">interest test</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3E) For the purposes of paragraph (3)(f), the FWC may have regard to:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(a) the need to achieve productivity and fairness through an emphasis on enterprise-level collective bargaining; and</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      34.05pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(b) the need to enhance the welfare of Australians through the promotion of competition and fair trading and provision for consumer protection.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(7) Schedule 1, item 639, page 211 (line 32), omit "is not a small business employer", substitute "employs more than 50 full-time equivalent employees".</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These amendments focus on tightening up the legislation to ensure that the impacts on business productivity and competitiveness of businesses—</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Honourable members interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Order! The House will come to order. There is far too much noise. Members should leave the chamber quickly and quietly so the member for Warringah can be heard in silence. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="175696" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms STEGGALL:</span>
                    </a>  It's very interesting to see the members of government walking out during the consideration in detail stage of very important legislation. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Ho</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">nourable members interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
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                    </a>  Order!</span>
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                    </a>  When they were in opposition, they complained about the coalition doing it. But it goes to show that, as soon as it changes, the same behaviour applies. </span>
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                    </a>  The member for Warringah will return to the amendments.</span>
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                    </a>  The unintended consequences of this legislation could have incredibly negative impacts on small businesses in my electorate, and they are still recovering from the impacts of COVID-19. It is misleading to the Australian public to claim that this will get wages moving, when there are going to be months of delay and negotiation—complex processes—and the winners will be the unions and the lawyers; it will not be the workers. It is disingenuous of the government to claim that this legislation will assist feminised industries, when many small businesses are run by women. They will be the first to suffer when this legislation brings an absolute stalemate to sectors like child care.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In Warringah, there are at least 370 businesses that would be able to engage in or be compelled to engage in multi-employer bargaining under the current definition of a 'small business', having less than 15 employees. The added complexity of being compelled to engage in the multi-employer bargaining process will put fear into many business owners. They are struggling to keep their heads above water, still reeling from the impacts of COVID-19 and increasing inflation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Productivity impacts are dealt with in amendments (1) to (3). They deal with the potential impacts on the productivity—</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Tudge interjecting</span>—</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The member for Aston will cease interjecting.</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms STEGGALL:</span>
                    </a>  Amendments (1) to (3) deal with potential impacts on the productivity of businesses being roped into multi-employer bargaining after it has been completed. They haven't even been part of the negotiations, and the bill currently allows an employee representative—the union—to join an employer to a multiparty EBA after the conclusion of the agreement. The Fair Work Commission should consider the potential impact on the productivity of a business as a result of being compelled to sign onto the EBA. This is a straightforward amendment that should not be objected to by the government.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The public interest test is amendment (6). Again, the amendment deals with the potential effects on productivity and competition. The bill as currently drafted requires the Fair Work Commission to be satisfied that it is not contrary to the public interest to do so before making a single-interest authorisation. The problem is that the drafting does not specify what would be contrary to the public interest. There is, therefore, no guarantee that the Fair Work Commission would take into account the benefits to productivity, competition and consumer protection that come from enterprise-level collective bargaining. The proposed amendment would require the Fair Work Commission to take into account the need to achieve productivity and fairness through an emphasis on enterprise-level collective bargaining and the need to enhance the welfare of Australians through the promotion of competition and fair trading and the provision of consumer protections.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Amendment (5) deals with common interest. In the single-interest stream, the common interest test in the current bill is very loosely defined and could have the effect of lessening competition by obliging smaller competitors to agree to multi-employer agreements with much larger businesses, with the potential for the smaller competitors to simply be priced out of the market. My proposed amendments would oblige the Fair Work Commission to take into account the economic circumstances and the relative sizes and scope of the employers' enterprises, as well as the extent to which the employers operate collaboratively rather than competitively, when determining whether the employers have a common interest.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Of course, we've heard much today of the small business definition. The bill currently exempts businesses with fewer than 15 employees from being forced into single-interest employer bargaining. That figure is ridiculous. Many businesses with up to 50 employees would be unable to compete with large businesses who could afford to absorb the extra cost. They will go to the wall. What the amendment proposes is that it be at 50 full-time equivalent. At the very least, the government is saying it will consider it, and there is dispute on this number.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Everyone in this place goes to their communities saying they support small business, yet here we are with legislation that will make it incredibly difficult for small business owners. I think this is really problematic. It does not have social licence. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace </span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:24</span>):  I thank the member for Warringah for the issues that have been raised. Some of them go to issues that were raised in other amendments, so I won't go into that in a lot of detail now, but I've given the reasons in terms of the definition of a 'small business'. The government is not seeking to have amendments on that during this debate today.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are three issues that were raised by the member for Warringah and I want to go through them and explain why the government will oppose the amendment. First of all, the issue about someone being joined to an existing agreement simply by virtue of a decision of a union is not how it operates. It could only happen with there then being a vote of the workforce. Once again, going to that situation I was describing before, things have to be initiated either by a majority of the workforce or by the employer. Either can make the decision on opting in to the processes here.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In terms of productivity, I have no in-principle objection to what the member has said, but I would say that productivity already has to be considered. Productivity is specifically in the objects of the act. Productivity is also then brought in again when we deal with the objects of the bargaining section of the act. Therefore, in applying the public interest test and in making any decisions here, the Fair Work Commission is expected to be taking account of productivity. There's a reason why we have tried to keep some of these tests general and to fall back on the objects of the different parts of the act, rather than have a new list of extra conditions. The reason is that, 10 years ago or a bit more than that, this House in good faith established a low-paid bargaining stream with a whole lot of extra conditions that came out of this sort of debate. The result, when it came to practical application, was that we ended up with a stream which everybody had accepted should exist and everyone accepted should be a pathway for multi-employer bargaining for people on low wages, but which, effectively, no-one was able to access, to the point where people stopped applying.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">So the view on the productivity proposal that's there is not that it shouldn't be taken into account but that the government's view is that it is already taken into account and we don't want to make the same mistakes that were made with the low-paid stream and end up putting so many conditions in place that we end up with a stream that of itself becomes overly complex and unusable. If, out of this, we end up establishing something that the very people we have been talking about are unable to access, then the problem that we're seeking to address won't have been addressed.</span>
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                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
                <name.id>L6B</name.id>
                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FLETCHER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles"> of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:27</span>):  I indicate that the opposition will be supporting the amendments moved by the member for Warringah. They go to many of the issues in this bill that we have indicated that we're very concerned about, including the definition of 'small business' or the cut-off point at which these intrusive and disruptive provisions can be visited upon a small business. Many of them have no idea this is coming. In terms of mandatory multi-employer bargaining and the other issues that we have raised that we've got very grave concerns about, we sought to address those in our amendments. A number of those issues are also sought to be addressed in the amendments moved by the member for Warringah, and the opposition will be supporting those amendments.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Spender, Allegra MP</name>
                <name.id>286042</name.id>
                <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wentworth</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:28</span>):  I'd like to speak briefly on the topic of businesses having to opt in to a bargain that has already been agreed to. The minister has rightly outlined that, if workers want to bargain, they should be able to bargain, and I wholeheartedly agree with that. But a business should also be able to bargain. If they're going to be pushed into an agreement and they have not had a chance to bargain, that could be extremely detrimental to their business and extremely detrimental to the workers involved as well, in the long term.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Daniel, Zoe MP</name>
                <name.id>008CH</name.id>
                <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                    <a href="008CH" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms DANIEL</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Goldstein</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:28</span>): I rise in support for the member's of Warringah's amendment and to note that, in this House, we now have several proposals for the definition of 'small business'—everything from 200 to 100 to 50. There is a reflected concern, I think, across this House around how this legislation will affect small businesses. I know that I've had these discussions with the minister. I rise simply to have it recorded that, whatever number the government ends up landing on, the concern is broad. I think the concern is multipartisan and that there are concerns among businesses across electorates and across Australia that, potentially, they will be unintentionally drawn in under this legislation.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In Goldstein, an electorate that has something like 17,000 small businesses, from small manufacturers to small cafes and such, those with a 15 headcount who would have casuals, 15-year-olds, working in their cafes, in the hospitality businesses, could potentially be drawn in to mandatory multi-employer bargaining under this legislation. I understand that there's an argument for small businesses of a particular size to be able to bargain collectively. I think the line in the legislation as it stands at a 15 headcount is wrong, and I rise again to just really press home the point to the government that when this legislation go to the Senate this is something that really deserves due consideration. Thank you.</span>
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                <page.no>55</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Haines, Helen MP</name>
                <name.id>282335</name.id>
                <electorate>Indi</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
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                    <a href="282335" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr HAINES</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Indi</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:30</span>):  I'd like to associate myself with a similar sentiment to what's been expressed just now by the member for Goldstein. There are many elements of the amendments put forward by the member for Warringah and indeed by the member for Wentworth that I agree with. I have some disagreements on other elements, but the issue around the size of small business is I think a universal concern amongst virtually everyone I have spoken to—or have had the opportunity to speak to, in the very short period of time we've had to consider the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022. We need to address the size that is indicated in the legislation around 'small business'. That absolutely needs to be negotiated in order to give me any comfort whatsoever that I can ever support this bill. Thank you.</span>
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                <page.no>55</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wallace, Andrew MP</name>
                <name.id>265967</name.id>
                <electorate>Fisher</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
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                    <a href="265967" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WALLACE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fisher</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:31</span>):  It's not very often in this place that I rise to support the honourable member, but I am on this occasion, because I know that the bulk of the small businesses in my electorate and throughout this country have absolutely no idea what is coming their way. But we do. We know what is coming. I am gravely concerned about the impact  this is going to have on small businesses. They're already facing significant increases in interest rates and energy prices, and we know all of that. But this is going to drastically impact on the ability of mum-and-dad small businesses to do business. The government can't seriously suggest that cut-off. The cut-off cannot be 15; it just can't be. That headcount is so unrealistic. A small business, say a cafe, will be employing casuals, part-timers and full-timers. Even just a small cafe would be over the threshold and they'd be covered by this legislation, the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022. They are really going to be suffering from this. Small businesses don't have IR departments. They don't have legal departments. They're not accountants. I'm really very concerned about this, and I know most of my colleagues here are, too.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">And I want to stand with the crossbench on these amendments. These are sensible amendments in relation to these threshold issues. I implore the Leader of the House: these guys, our small businesses, are really going to be doing it very, very tough, particularly after Christmas. More than likely we'll end up seeing a couple more interest rate rises. And I know already, from the businesses that are talking to me, about how tough they are finding it. These changes are going to significantly impact upon not just their ability to trade but also their mental health. Already small businesses feel like unpaid tax collectors and that they are doing so many jobs that government used to do. They are under the pump, and that is only going to get worse, and it's going to get significantly worse after Christmas. I implore the Leader of the House to re-examine this issue. It doesn't need to go back to the Senate. You've already made 150 amendments. You could bring another amendment today. We are literally building the plane as it's going down the runway. When I was a builder we used to have a saying and that is: measure twice, cut once. We're changing things—I know this is a complex area of law. We've got to get this right, and we are a long, long way from getting this right.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I would also encourage the Leader of the House—you've heard some really sensible submissions from the crossbench. One thing is very clear and that is that this bill is being rushed through. If you rush this you're going to make mistakes. To fundamentally change the way that we are doing business from an industrial relations perspective—it is too important to rush this, because when you rush things there are always unintended consequences. So my plea to you, the Leader of the House, is just hit pause. Let's consult a bit more broadly on this.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">So many industry bodies are up in arms about this. What I'm concerned about are the mum and dad punters, the small businesses—quite frankly, I don't think most of them even know what's coming. They're not glued to the television and the papers like we are. They're too busy trying to make a living. If this bill gets passed then they are going to suffer very, very badly—<span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Just to benefit the House, just to move forward—I didn't want to interrupt the member for Fisher—when we are dealing with consideration in detail it's not a wideranging debate. I would ask all members, in their remarks, to deal with the amendments as the House is dealing with them.</span>
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                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <page.no>56</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Violi, Aaron MP</name>
                <name.id>300147</name.id>
                <electorate>Casey</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                    <a href="300147" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr VIOLI</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Casey</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:36</span>):  In my first speech I stood here and said I was going to be a voice for small business in this House. I want to share a story about my time in small business that's directly related to the number of people that are considered a small business—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Order! I'm sorry to interrupt the member for Casey, but I gave an announcement to the House that this is not a wideranging debate. There are seven items before the House in amendments. I'll give him some latitude, but I will ask him to address his remarks regarding the specific amendments.</span>
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                    <a href="300147" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr VIOLI:</span>
                    </a>  There are 47,000 people employed in small business in Casey. I worked in small business, at Yarra Valley Snack Foods, and I joined the company when we were at seven employees. Seven years later I left that company when we were at 130 employees. So as a leader in that business I lived through the change of a business. I can guarantee you that at 130 employees we were still very much a small business, because we had a lot of people on the books, but we had a lot of expenses. We didn't have a large HR department. We didn't have the ability to understand 249 pages of legislation. When we were hiring people we made decisions on whether it was worth increasing the size of our business or whether we invested in infrastructure.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We need to allow businesses and small businesses to continue to grow and to employ more people. Getting the number right on this is so crucial, because it has unintended consequences. As the member for Fisher said, 'Measure twice and cut once.' I worked on a job site at university. I made the mistake of measuring once and it was a mistake I never made again!</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Sometimes, potentially, you're in this House for a long time and you can forget that the decisions that we make in this House are not ideological decisions. They're ideological discussions, yes, but they have consequences in the real world for real people—for small-business owners, for mothers and fathers who are looking to put food on the table—so it's so important that we take the time to get this legislation right. We're already at 150 amendments.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I was very fortunate to follow in the footsteps of the former member for Casey and former Speaker, the Hon. Tony Smith, who was respected throughout the House. He's a friend and a mentor, but he's also a custodian of meaningful and respectful debate in this place with his words but, most importantly, his actions. I'll finish with a quote from the Hon. Tony Smith from yesterday that relates directly to this amendment, to this debate and to what's happening in rushing this legislation through. He said:</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">… it is critical to remember that democracy is fundamentally underpinned by disagreement. At its core, democracy is a contest of ideas and ideals—a contest to find—</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">like the number of small businesses, including mine—</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">and form the best possible ideas and deliver on them. Integral to this contest is a process of respectful disagreement and debate.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We need to take the time to debate this legislation, send it to a committee and get the numbers right because there are 47,000 people in Casey who will be impacted if we get this wrong. There are also lots of constituents in McEwen who will be impacted if we get this wrong. That's why this debate is important. We need to take our time to get it right and to allow a committee to understand it. Having 150 amendments already shows that there are changes that need to be made during this debate. Every time we make another amendment, it has unintended consequences. When you work in business, you take your time to get important decisions right. This is a crucial decision that we are making in this House. I urge us to take the time to get it right. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  I remind all speakers to ensure their remarks are directed to the amendments before the House.</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <page.no>56</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Tehan, Dan MP</name>
                <name.id>210911</name.id>
                <electorate>Wannon</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
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                    <a href="210911" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TEHAN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wannon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:41</span>):  I rise to also support this amendment. In talking on supporting this amendment, I'd first like to point out that the government has shown that it has been willing to listen and to make amendments to this bill. As a matter of fact, it's been prepared to do so at such a rate that it is proving to be highly embarrassing for the government. I can't remember a piece of legislation in recent memory where there have been 150 amendments, and we're beginning to count. I'm glad the minister's here because the number of amendments—150—shows that he hasn't done his work, he hasn't done his job. He hasn't consulted, and one of the areas he clearly hasn't consulted on is the number of employees that constitute a small business. As the minister should know, there is a wide variety of regulations and rules around what constitutes a small business. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This legislation will have an enormous impact on small business because it will see unions for the first time be able to walk in the front doors of small businesses. This law makes sure that they have taken the smallest and the narrowest definition possible for small business. As previous speakers have mentioned, this comes at a time when small businesses are facing pressures, the likes of which they haven't seen for decades. They're seeing rising electricity and gas prices. They're seeing rising regulatory burdens being placed upon them. And now they're going to confront this new workforce legislation and multi-employer bargaining, which hasn't been properly defined. Small businesses have no idea what multi-employer bargaining will mean for them and their staff. So I say to the government: this legislation has been embarrassing enough for you. Now is the time for you to go back and, in particular, liaise and discuss with all the relevant employer organisations about what should constitute the definition of a small business, what the size of a small business should be. It's clear that right across this House we're saying, 'You've got it wrong.' Like you have with the other 150 amendments that you've had to make where you've admitted you've got it wrong, you've got this wrong as well. So I say to the minister: enough's enough. Enough errors in this bill. Enough harm. Enough damage. You're already doing enough. Let's not go even further. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When it comes to the size of a small business, you should be looking at the number of regulations or amendments you've put in place—150—and, at a minimum, defining a small business as someone with 150 employees. Here, we're suggesting a lesser number than that but one which would mean that the damage this bill will do to small business will not impact on real small businesses. I say to the minister: enough's enough. It's time to admit that this legislation goes too far. It's time to admit that the damage this will do to small business, especially in the limited definition of 'small business' and the number of employees that a small business has, needs to change. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are organisations that would happily step you through this. Go and discuss this with COSBOA, who have had a bit of an awakening throughout this process. Go and talk to ACCI, who would also happily step you through what a definition of a small business should be. Understand the impact, the regulatory burden and the uncertainty that you will be placing on small business if you go forward with this. The House is sending you a clear message, Minister: you've got this wrong. You've admitted 150 times already, through making amendments, that you've got it wrong. Let's make it 151 and do the right thing by small business. </span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>57</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Ar</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">ts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:46</span>):  In responding to some of the comments that have been made, I've already given the perspective of the government in terms of why, in the House, the government won't be supporting a shift in how small business is defined. I'm conscious, from those opposite, that when I was first here the WorkChoices small business number was 100. Today they've gone to 200; they've doubled it. That said, this debate will certainly continue as it goes through to the other place. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm also conscious that we have two more amendments, that will come this morning as well, that deal with similar exclusions, one with respect to small business and one with respect to agriculture. I think it's important the House has time to deal with those. On that basis, I'll take the advice of the previous member, the member for Wannon, where he said that on this particular issue enough is enough, and I'd require that the question be put. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The question before the House is that the amendments moved by the honourable member for Warringah be disagreed to.</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [11:52]<br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick)</p>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>58</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Scamps, Sophie MP</name>
                <name.id>299623</name.id>
                <electorate>Mackellar</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="299623" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr SCAMPS</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mackellar</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:56</span>):  I move amendments (1) to (13), as circulated in my name, together:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1)      Clause 2, page 2 (table items 6, 7 and 8), omit the table items.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">[Australian Building and Construction Commission]</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(2)      Schedule 1, Part 3, page 41 (line 1) to page 79 (line 22), omit the Part.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[Australian Building and Construction Commission]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(3)      Schedule 1, item 611, page 197 (lines 15 and 16), omit subparagraph 243(1)(b)(ii), substitute:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (ii)   the history of bargaining of each of the relevant employers, including whether they have previously bargained together; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (iia)   the interests that the relevant employers have in common, and the extent to which those interests are relevant to whether they should be permitted to bargain together; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (iib)   whether the relevant employers are governed by a common regulatory regime; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (iic)   whether it would be more appropriate for each of the relevant employers to make a separate enterprise agreement with its employees; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (iid)   the extent to which the relevant employers operate collaboratively rather than competitively; and</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[common interests]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(4)      Schedule 1, item 611, page 197 (lines 27 to 35), omit subsection 243(2).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[common interests]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(5)      Schedule 1, item 629, page 204 (lines 16 to 18), omit subparagraph 216DC(1)(b)(i), substitute:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (i)   the history of bargaining of each of the relevant employers, including whether they have previously bargained together;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (ia)   the interests that the relevant employers have in common, and the extent to which those interests are relevant to whether they should be permitted to bargain together;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (ib)   whether the relevant employers are governed by a common regulatory regime;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (ic)   whether it would be more appropriate for each of the relevant employers to make a separate enterprise agreement with its employees;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (id)   the extent to which the relevant employers operate collaboratively rather than competitively;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[common interests]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(6)      Schedule 1, item 629, page 204 (line 19), omit “not contrary to”, substitute “in”.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[public interest]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(7)      Schedule 1, item 629, page 204 (lines 29 and 30), omit “is not a small business employer”, substitute “employs more than 15 full-time equivalent employees”.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[small business]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(8)      Schedule 1, item 629, page 205 (lines 3 to 11), omit subsection 216DC(2).</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[common interests]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(9)      Schedule 1, item 634, page 208 (line 23), omit “not contrary to”, substitute “in”.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[public interest]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(10)   Schedule 1, item 634, page 208 (line 27), omit “is not a small business employer”, substitute “employs more than 15 full-time equivalent employees”.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[small business]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(11)   Schedule 1, item 634, page 209 (lines 12 to 16), omit paragraphs (3C)(a) to (c), substitute:</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (a)   the history of bargaining of each of the relevant employers, including whether they have previously bargained together;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (b)   the interests that the relevant employers have in common, and the extent to which those interests are relevant to whether they should be permitted to bargain together;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (c)   whether the relevant employers are governed by a common regulatory regime;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (d)   whether it would be more appropriate for each of the relevant employers to make a separate enterprise agreement with its employees;</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">   (e)   the extent to which the relevant employers operate collaboratively rather than competitively.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[common interests]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(12)   Schedule 1, item 639, page 211 (line 32), omit “is not a small business employer”, substitute “employs more than 15 full-time equivalent employees”.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[small business]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(13)   Schedule 1, item 649, page 223 (line 29), omit “not contrary to”, substitute “in”.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Small" style="text-align:right;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;text-decoration:none underline;">[public interest]</span>
                  </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There has been much talk from the government of the mandate it has been given by the people of Australia to support the introduction and passage of the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022. I agree wholeheartedly that the people of Australia did give a mandate for wage growth, especially in the long-undervalued and largely feminised care sectors. And I wholeheartedly agree with the need for urgent reforms to ensure that there is equal pay for equal work. However, I too have been given a mandate, by the people of Mackellar, to listen to them and to represent them on issues that matter to them and to make a difference to their lives. This includes a strong mandate to support the small-business owners in Mackellar. Small business is the backbone of the Mackellar electorate, with over 35,000 small businesses located there. The results of our recent survey of businesses showed that 84 per cent identified red tape and compliance as their top issue of concern.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I have also heard loud and clear from those in the construction industry, including my local Master Builders Association, who value the role of the Australian Building and Construction Commission and are alarmed at its abolition. In fact, almost nine per cent—8½ thousand people—working in Mackellar work in the building and construction sector. This includes 3,500 businesses, of which 91 per cent are small businesses. This is comparatively high even compared with similar electorates in my area of Sydney. I also have a mandate from the majority of my electorate to do politics differently, and that is to ensure proper process, consultation and consensus building.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The problem I have with the omnibus nature of the fair work legislation amendment is that many of these excellent policies are bundled up with the more-controversial ones, and this has created a Sophie's choice when it comes to voting. As with many of my crossbench colleagues, I too have serious concerns at the consequences this legislation will have on small business. So I have moved these amendments to protect small businesses and to reduce the risk that they will be impacted unnecessarily. I do this by removing the uncertainty associated with the common-interest test and raising the bar in regard to the public interest test. Importantly, I seek to remove part 3, the abolishment of the ABCC, which has been a political football with each change of government. I also seek to protect small business by updating and clarifying the common-interest test and also flipping the public interest test to be defined as 'in the public interest', not merely 'contrary to the public interest'. Finally, I move to amend the definition of the small business exemption to be based on 15 full-time-equivalent employees, not merely employees under the current definition of small business. Thank you. </span>
                </p>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>60</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Minister fo</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">r the Arts and Leader of </span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:59</span>):  I thank the member for Mackellar both for the contribution in the debate and the conversations that have happened back and forth between my office and her own in the lead-up to this debate.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to deal in some detail with one of the issues that has been raised. The government won't be supporting the amendment. I've referred a few times now to the 'small business' definition issue and how we're wanting to handle that. And we've had many opportunities for debate where I think I've probably made clear the government's views on the ABCC, but am very mindful of what the member for Mackellar said there about the statistics in terms of the impact on her electorate of the construction industry. I can completely respect why the issue is being raised through this amendment.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to deal in some detail with an issue that has come up a lot in the media, but I think this is the first time it's been raised in the House. The issue is whether or not we ought to have detailed criteria for the common interest test. In particular, the issue is often raised—and it's part of the amendment—as to whether we should include a concept that businesses must be operating collaboratively, not competitively, because it's here that there is a policy decision that the government is taking quite deliberately and I want to be able to explain it. There are circumstances where businesses are in competition where we do want multi-employer bargaining to apply, and that is different to how the single interest stream or common interest stream runs at the moment.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'll give a simple example. When the race to the bottom on wages is, effectively, the nature of the competition, that's not a form of competition that we want to encourage, even though those businesses might be operating competitively. The simplest example I can give would be the example of cleaning companies. It has been the case that a good enterprise agreement is negotiated with a good employer. They get their rates of pay for their workforce improved on the award, and they get some flexibility in return. Then they simply get undercut only on wages—not on quality of service or anything else. As a result, they lose their contract and we end up back where we started. The people who had better wages don't have a job, and the same work is being done with similar equipment in a similar way, and we failed to get wages off the floor of the award.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">So in those circumstances, we do want it to be possible for good employers to make sure that, on everything else, competition still happens—in terms of the quality of the service, the quality of the equipment, and the ingenuity of the different businesses and of the different brands and the ways that businesses put themselves out to the public. But there are circumstances where the nature of the competition is a race to the bottom on wages, and that is one of the things we want to directly address.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This amendment would reflect language that's currently in the act, but we're quite deliberately wanting to change that. I thank the member for Mackellar not only for bringing the issue forward but also for giving me the opportunity to provide that further explanation to the House.</span>
                </p>
              </body>
            </talk.text>
          </speech>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>60</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Chaney, Kate MP</name>
                <name.id>300006</name.id>
                <electorate>Curtin</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="300006" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CHANEY</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Curtin</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:03</span>):  I rise to speak in support of those amendments. I want to take up a statement that the minister made then about wanting to create a level playing field for businesses that are in competition. My concern is that the flipside could also be true. Sometimes businesses do compete on wages and they are competing for talent by offering better wages. The concern is that the unintended consequence here is that it actually prevents that sort of competition if one competitor can be dragged into a bargain with its competitor and is no longer able to compete by offering better terms and conditions to those employees. That is the sort of unintended consequence that I am concerned about and that my electorate is concerned about that requires greater consideration of the issues and of what might come out of the legislation, as evidenced by the numerous amendments that have been put by the government and other sides that shows that, really, we need to take some time to think about this. I'd just put that to the minister.</span>
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              </body>
            </talk.text>
          </speech>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>60</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:04</span>):  By way of a very quick clarification, there's nothing in the legislation before us or in the amendments before us that would turn agreements into a ceiling on wages. Many businesses out there now, particularly at a time of labour shortage, are paying above agreement or award rates. The capacity to do that is unaffected, whether employees are on an award, on an enterprise agreement or on a multi-employer agreement.</span>
                </p>
              </body>
            </talk.text>
          </speech>
          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>60</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
                <name.id>L6B</name.id>
                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FLETCHER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:05</span>):  I indicate that the opposition will be supporting the amendments moved by the member for Mackellar. I want to focus particularly on the amendments that she has moved that would have the impact of deleting from the bill the provisions currently within the bill that get rid of the Australian Building and Construction Commission.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The problem with getting rid of the Australian Building and Construction Commission is that it effectively gives a green light to the notoriously militant CFMEU. This union is known for its track record of bullying, intimidation and lawlessness. This has been commented on by numerous Federal Court judges. It's very clear that the leadership of the CFMEU regards fines and convictions as simply the cost of doing business. And the evidence is very clear; we've had prior experience of what happens when the ABCC is abolished by a government at the behest of the CFMEU, because Labor's done this before. Labor has got form here. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">When Labor last abolished the Australian Building and Construction Commission, two-thirds of working days lost to industrial action were in the construction industry, and the average rate of industrial action was nearly five times the average in every other industry. In turn, this caused the rate of disputes in the construction sector to increase by 46 per cent, compared with a 31 per cent decline across all other industries. The regrettable fact is that, thanks to the extraordinary amount of working days lost due to industrial action at building sites, necessary infrastructure for our communities, like schools and hospitals, cost taxpayers up to 30 per cent more—because of the disgraceful conduct of the CFMEU. </span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Don't take my word for it; look at the courts. In recent years, what decisions have the courts made as to the conduct of the CFMEU? The CFMEU has been found guilty by the courts of breaching industrial law on projects across Australia: offices, apartments, shopping centres, hospitals, children's hospitals, universities, schools, roads, airports, stadiums, hotels, medical research facilities, social housing and many other important community facilities. The CFMEU doesn't care. They play their games on all of these sites and others. The record of experience is clear: the Australian Building and Construction Commission has been an effective check on the excesses and the militancy of the CFMEU and on the damage that they do across the economy. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The removal of the ABCC is a retrograde step, it's a very bad move and it is something that the coalition opposes. That is a key reason why we're supporting the amendments moved by the member for Mackellar. Of course, we've also seen that the CFMEU has a disgraceful track record of targeting women on construction sites with sexist slurs and physical threats. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The consequence of the provision in the bill that would remove the Australian Building and Construction Commission is that it would essentially leave businesses and workers in the construction sector across Australia completely exposed to the unlawful conduct, the thuggish and violent conduct, of the CFMEU. That was the fundamental policy purpose of the previous coalition government in establishing the Australian Building and Construction Commission. It worked effectively to reduce disputation on construction sites around the country.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are flow-on consequences across the economy, because construction, as the member for Mackellar has rightly said, is such a significant employer. It employs a large percentage of Australians—many small businesses, many subcontractors. The removal of the ABCC is very, very bad news for the sector and those who work in it. It's very, very bad news for our broader economy, and that is why the opposition itself moved an amendment to remove these provisions. That was unsuccessful. For the same reason, we are certainly pleased to be supporting the amendments moved by the member for Mackellar, because the removal of the ABCC is a very bad step indeed.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>61</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Spender, Allegra MP</name>
                <name.id>286042</name.id>
                <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="286042" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SPENDER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wentworth</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:10</span>):  I support the amendments of the member for Mackellar. Firstly to the point the minister raised about businesses, that the agreement will not be a ceiling on wages but will be a floor, I take the point that it won't be a ceiling. However, if you are bringing businesses together to talk about wages and getting agreement on wages, it would not be a surprise if businesses, having built those relationships and bargaining around wages, come together and decide what they will do about wages and seek it to be an effective ceiling. I think it would be very hard to understand what is actually going on, because of the nature of these businesses.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The second piece I'd like to rise in support of is in public interest. In the bill currently you can only have a forced multi-employer agreement if it's not contrary to public interest. I support the member for Mackellar's motion to flip that, that a multi-employer bargain—where the business doesn't choose to enter the bargaining; the employees choose to enter the bargaining—has to be shown to be in the public interest. I see that there's real value in that, because there is deep uncertainty out there amongst the business community about who is going to be drawn into multi-employer bargaining and what sort of bargains and groups of businesses might be drawn in. I think if you flip this and make it that it has to be positively in the public interest you would deal with issues that the minister has rightly raised, where there's a concern about a race the bottom on wages. I can see that there would be strong arguments that the race to the bottom on wages is not in the public interest. Therefore, that would give that protection to that group of workers, but would stop the legitimate fear of many businesses who would say, 'I'm going to be dragged into an agreement which is not in the public interest—and is certainly not in my interests—and is going to take a significant amount of time for me to negotiate. And it won't support the growth and development of my business.' So I recommend the member for Mackellar's amendments to the House.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>61</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wolahan, Keith MP</name>
                <name.id>235654</name.id>
                <electorate>Menzies</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="235654" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WOLAHAN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Menzies</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:12</span>):  I rise in support of the amendments put by the member for Mackellar. In particular, I would like to refer to the references to the ABCC. Before I do that, I just want to compliment the member on her fantastic mum joke—Sophie's choice was very well done. We should hear more mum jokes in this place—not just dad jokes.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are 1.2 million workers, or thereabouts, in the construction sector in Australia, so this is a significant percentage of Australians. One in 10 jobs are in this sector, so we are talking about an enormous percentage of Australians and the economy. When you break that number—of who is employed in the sector—down they are often also small business people. We've heard discussion about small business in other amendments that've been put, and I won't speak to that.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I come from a family that is employed in the construction sector. My father is a roof plumber. If anyone needs their leaky roof fixed he's pretty good! When I meet him on a building site, or talk to tradesmen that have worked for him or others in the sector, something pops out that is quite concerning: there is a different standard of living if you are in a union protected job or if you're not. You notice it in the wages, in the quality of the house that you have and in the sort of work that you get. There are insiders and there are outsiders, and the insiders have your ear; the outsiders don't. They don't get considered.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In another debate that will come to this house, we heard about integrity and the corruption commission. At some stage we will have a report tabled in this house and we'll have an important, momentous occasion in this parliament and in our democracy and the debate will happen. But when we look at the difference between insiders and outsiders, we see that the insiders get a special place where they get special carve-outs. We had the Prime Minister on Monday say that the reason for that is that we do not want the duplication of regimes.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Well, we see in this particular example a regime that is effective and is doing a good job getting cut away. So I rise in support of the amendment. There shouldn't be insiders and outsiders. We will always be listening to all voices, including those in small business who work in the construction sector.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The question is that the amendments be disagreed to. I will just remind the House again: members can confine their remarks specifically to the 13 amendments before the House, which are technical and specific amendments. It is not a wideranging debate.</span>
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                <talker>
                  <page.no>62</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>53517</name.id>
                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>62</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Thompson, Phillip MP</name>
                <name.id>281826</name.id>
                <electorate>Herbert</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="281826" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr THOMPSON</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Herbert</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:15</span>):  I rise in support of the amendments moved by the member of Mackellar. I'd also like to agree with statements made by the previous contributor, the member for Menzies. I would like to congratulate him on a very relevant contribution to this parliament. I think it was extremely relevant.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Today, we're debating an amendment around the ABCC that is quite close to a lot of people's hearts. We know that the ABCC has improved productivity. In places like Townsville, we saw the construction of our stadium, the Queensland Country Bank Stadium, where the ABCC was involved in calling out extreme, militant behaviour that was conducted by the CFMMEU. These CFMMEU members were not from the region. They were not from Townsville. These union members were flown in—some from interstate and some from the south-east corner. They rocked up and they were bullying people in the construction industry, demanding that they either join the union or get off site. The ABCC stood up for these workers. Many of these workers are small businesses that just want to get on with doing the job.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The ABCC has had many different reports conducted into them. One independent economic report on the state of the sector said that, during the period, multifaceted productivity rose by 16 per cent, consumers were better off by around $7.5 billion annually and there was significant reduction in working days lost through industrial action. This should be supported—having minimal time off and ensuring that the ABCC is there to be the watchdog, the independent umpire and an independent group that can call out bad behaviour</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">On the project in Townsville where the ABCC called out militant union behaviour, we saw fines given to the CFMMEU for doing the wrong thing—rocking up to the site and bullying people. This isn't a good thing. We've seen assaults. We've seen the way that people have been treated on job sites by the CFMMEU in particular, so having an independent watchdog is a good idea.</span>
                </p>
                <a href="129164" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                  <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                    <span class="HPS-Normal">
                      <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Brian Mitchell interjecting</span>—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="235654" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr WOLAHAN:</span>
                    </a>  I'm happy to take some interjections, as long as they're not personal like you did last night, mate. I'm more than happy to—</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">T</span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">he SPEAKER:</span>  Order! The member for Herbert will direct his remarks through the chair.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="235654" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr WOLAHAN:</span>
                    </a>  Sure, Mr Speaker. What will happen to the construction industry without the ABCC? The construction industry stands apart from other sectors, in terms of its industrial unlawfulness. When there is no watchdog, industrial laws and penalties in this industry are seen as no more serious than a parking ticket. You speed; you pay the fine—and the offending conduct is repeated again and again. We've seen this raised in the courts recently.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The government has a responsibility to ensure that our laws are strong enough to deter people from breaking the law and that there is an effective regulator to prosecute wrongdoers when they act unlawfully. We haven't seen this in the past when we've seen militant unions break the law; they laugh in the face of it and make comments through their social media about it.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">As soon as Labor abolished the ABCC in 2012, the improvements in respect for the law were lost almost immediately. After getting rid of the ABCC, the rate of disputes in the construction industry rose to approximately four times the all-industry average. In the first quarter after binning the ABCC in September 2012, the rate of industrial disputes increased fivefold. This is something that would lower productivity, would see more people have time off and would see the CFMEU run roughshod over the construction industry. It is something that we, on this side of the House, do not support.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The question before the House is the amendments moved by the member for Mackellar, numbers (1) to (13) be disagreed. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
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                  <page.no>62</page.no>
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                  <name role="metadata">Wolahan, Keith MP</name>
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                  <electorate>Menzies</electorate>
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                  <page.no>62</page.no>
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                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>53517</name.id>
                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
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                  <electorate>Menzies</electorate>
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                  <page.no>63</page.no>
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                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>53517</name.id>
                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [12:24] <br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick) </p>
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                <num.votes>80</num.votes>
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                  <name>Aly, A.</name>
                  <name>Ananda-Rajah, M.</name>
                  <name>Bandt, A. P.</name>
                  <name>Bates, S. J.</name>
                  <name>Bowen, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Burke, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Burnell, M. P.</name>
                  <name>Burns, J.</name>
                  <name>Butler, M. C.</name>
                  <name>Byrnes, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
                  <name>Chandler-Mather, M.</name>
                  <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                  <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                  <name>Clare J. D.</name>
                  <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
                  <name>Coker, E. A.</name>
                  <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                  <name>Daniel, Z.</name>
                  <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Fernando, C.</name>
                  <name>Freelander, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                  <name>Georganas, S.</name>
                  <name>Giles, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Gorman, P.</name>
                  <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Hill, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Husic, E. N.</name>
                  <name>Jones, S. P.</name>
                  <name>Katter, R. C.</name>
                  <name>Kearney, G. M.</name>
                  <name>Keogh, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Khalil, P.</name>
                  <name>King, C. F.</name>
                  <name>King, M. M. H.</name>
                  <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                  <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                  <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                  <name>Lim, S. B. C.</name>
                  <name>Marles, R. D.</name>
                  <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
                  <name>McBain, K. L.</name>
                  <name>McBride, E. M.</name>
                  <name>Miller-Frost, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, B. K.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, R. G.</name>
                  <name>Mulino, D.</name>
                  <name>Neumann, S. K.</name>
                  <name>O'Connor, B. P. J.</name>
                  <name>O'Neil, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Payne, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Perrett, G. D.</name>
                  <name>Phillips, F. E.</name>
                  <name>Plibersek, T. J.</name>
                  <name>Rae, S. T.</name>
                  <name>Reid, G. J.</name>
                  <name>Repacholi, D. P.</name>
                  <name>Rishworth, A. L.</name>
                  <name>Roberts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Rowland, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, M. M.</name>
                  <name>Scrymgour, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Shorten, W. R.</name>
                  <name>Sitou, S.</name>
                  <name>Smith, D. P. B. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Stanley, A. M. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Swanson, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Templeman, S. R.</name>
                  <name>Thistlethwaite, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Thwaites, K. L.</name>
                  <name>Vamvakinou, M.</name>
                  <name>Watson-Brown, E.</name>
                  <name>Watts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Wells, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Wilkie, A. D.</name>
                  <name>Wilson, J. H.</name>
                  <name>Zappia, A.</name>
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                <num.votes>56</num.votes>
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                  <name>Archer, B. K.</name>
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                  <name>Birrell, S. J.</name>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed to.</p>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>64</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Katter, Bob MP</name>
                <name.id>HX4</name.id>
                <electorate>Kennedy</electorate>
                <party>KAP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="HX4" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr KATTER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kennedy</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:29</span>):  I move the amendment as circulated in my name:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">(1) Schedule 1, item 660, page 229 (after line 18), after Division 1, insert:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Division 1A</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">—</span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">Application generally</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">55A Amending Act does not apply to farming employment</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      22.7pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">The amendments of this Act made by Schedule 1 to the amending Act do not apply in relation to farming employment. Farming employment will be under general uniform base wage and conditions.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;        margin-left:&#xA;      11.35pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-weight:bold;">55B Amending Act does not apply to certain businesses</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Small">The amendments of this Act made by Schedule 1 to the amending Act do not apply to businesses that employ under 50 full time equivalent employees in regional, rural and remote Australia.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The last speaker spoke about interference on construction sites. I represent Mount Mulligan where 72 human beings ceased to exist in the space of five seconds. I represent Mount Leyshon. My own son worked at Mount Leyshon where 23 human beings ceased to exist in the space of five seconds. One in 30 of the people who worked in the cane fields died in the cane fields. One in 30 people who worked in the mines died in the mines. So don't take lightly the importance of trade unionism. My family—I make no apologies—is a very rich and powerful family, but they could see clearly, as I think all decent people saw clearly, the necessity for some protection and power for the employee class.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm moving for the exclusion of farming here. I'm supporting the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill 2022, but, in the area of farming, it's just not like it is everywhere else. To give you some idea, the banana industry employs about 6,000 people. I'm in the pub drinking and I say, 'What do you do, Mick?' He said, 'I work in bananas. ' I said, 'Well, you're not working today.' He said, 'I don't work on Tuesdays.' I said, 'Do you work later in the week?' He said: 'Sometimes I work on Thursdays. If you turn up at 6.30 in the morning at the corner of Eden Street, a bus picks you up and takes you out there. If you're not there, well, you're not there.' This is not the ordinary sort of arrangements—and I think everyone here are from cities—that you consider in a city. I just think it's so enormously different.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">If someone gets sick, the harvester can't harvest, so he drives around to an old mate of his who's long since retired and he comes out of retirement for a few days. If we're short in a muster, you just go into the pub and drag someone out. I really don't think the sorts of things we're talking about here apply in the farming situation. In some areas it does apply, but I use the word 'farming' not 'agriculture', because agriculture would include the sugar mills and industrial undertakings in farming, and I don't think they should be excluded from the ambit of this legislation. But farming itself, as opposed to agriculture, has to be excluded. Like so many of my colleagues, once again, I move that it be under 50. I think there's a good argument that it should be under 100, but I think really, Minister, 15 is too low. In the Senate, I think you've got to consider raising that a bit.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to give some insight into small business. There was a cafe in Hughenden—I think the owner would be happy for me to use his name. It was Jimmy Marendy's cafe. The union bloke came around and said, 'What hours are you working?' The lady told him her hours. He asked: 'How much are you getting paid?' He said, 'Because your hours don't overlap, you should have got another 50 bucks a week off your employer.' So the owner had to pay them backpay. The owner of the cafe was earning less than the employee, which is pretty common in small business. There are some tax benefits, but really I think a lot of small-business owners are earning less than employees. So he shut the cafe and we had no cafe in Hughenden, and six people had lost their jobs. So this is not a shoe that fits all feet. It's just simply not. I think you've got to exclude to a certain level— <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>64</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:34</span>):  I thank the member for Kennedy and acknowledge his extraordinary connection to the agricultural and farming communities in his electorate. I've been with him with beef producers and canegrowers, and I've been in those same those banana-packing sheds that he referred to. Some of the greatest areas of underpayment and exploitation and low wages that we have dealt with are not necessarily in that part of Australia but have actually been in the agriculture sector and, often, in horticulture. I would be loathe to create a situation where those workers weren't able to have the chance of the benefits of some of the provisions that are in this bill. For that reason the government won't be supporting the amendment, but understands exactly why it's being moved by the member for Kennedy.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Just in closing—because this will be the final moment of the debate—and for those who are wondering about the consideration in detail stage: this bill will have had the longest consideration in detail on any bill since the marriage equality debate in 2017. You would have to go back to the previous Labor government before that to find a consideration in detail stage on any bill that has gone for as long as this one has. With that in mind, I request that this amendment now be put to the ballot.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>65</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Sharkie, Rebekha MP</name>
                <name.id>265980</name.id>
                <electorate>Mayo</electorate>
                <party>CA</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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              <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="265980" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SHARKIE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mayo</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:35</span>):  I rise to support the member for Kennedy's amendment. I too represent a regional community, and I have to say that running a business in a regional community is very different. There are pressures on regional businesses that are not experienced in metropolitan areas. I'm talking about fires, floods and droughts, and the impacts those have on regional communities. That's why we have the rural business support scheme, a scheme that I support very much.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But I just want to tell the House very quickly about one small business in my electorate of Mayo, in my hometown of Mount Torrens. Many years ago, the centre of town had a really big stone shed; it's where we used to make ice cream, AMSCOL ice cream. That business closed and for many years, right in the heart of town, this huge, great big building was empty. Then we had Elders move in there for a few years and then, again, it was closed—for many, many years. It's not like in metropolitan areas, where one business moves out and another business moves in. This really ended up being an empty shell full of rats and everything else. We then had a business move into the town, Coopers of Mount Torrens, and I have to say that the whole town celebrated. That is a small business that would be very much impacted by this industrial relations legislation that we have before us. I just don't think that the government is really thinking deeply about the impact of this legislation on regional businesses across Australia. I would very much urge the government, perhaps in the Senate, to have a look at regional Australia and our small businesses, to try to provide some protections for them.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>65</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
                <name.id>L6B</name.id>
                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr FLETCHER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:37</span>):  I indicate that the opposition will be supporting the amendment moved by the member for Kennedy. As he has rightly highlighted in his contribution, the primary industry sector is enormously important to Australia's prosperity. Indeed, there is a goal of achieving export income of $100 billion. There has been very significant progress towards that over the last few years and the coalition strongly supported that when in government.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Of course, what needs to be recognised—and the members who have contributed have made this point very effectively—is that farming, primary industry, has some characteristics that are very different to other kinds of businesses across the economy. Many farming enterprises are family businesses, being built up over generations, and many farming businesses take substantial risks: if there's a drought, that could go for a year, or two years—or four or five. The harvest could fail, and that can happen, year after year after year. Families in many cases there are really hanging on, and it's very, very tough. It's a boom and bust industry: of course there are other times that are good—global commodity prices are high, the weather is good and the harvest is good, and farmers receive a substantial sum of money for their harvest.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But of course that cyclicality, that boom-and-bust nature, is something that's unlikely to be looked on in any receptive way by aggressive unions seeking to push into territories that they presently do not have a strong presence in. And we know that's one of the agendas behind this bill: it's to expand the role of the union movement to support it to get greater coverage, across many different parts of the economy, and there's no doubt that farming is one of the sectors in their sights. So, this government is of course dancing to the tune of the union paymasters.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">A government member interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr FLETCHER:</span>
                    </a>  I hear a member opposite, a former union secretary, like so many of them on the other side. These people are not disinterested. These people don't bring an unbiased and objective perspective on this. This is a collection of former union officials, and we've just heard one bellowing out, in the normal way that he does. All those years of standing there on the picket line with the bullhorn: 'What do we want? When do we want it?'—that's what we're seeing, all that training coming into play now. This is a bill that is about supporting the interests of the union bosses. There are farming enterprises—</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Order! The Manager of Opposition Business will ensure that his remarks are directly relative to the amendment of the member for Kennedy.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">FLETCHER:</span>  I do make my remarks directly relevant, as you rightly counselled me, Mr Speaker, to the excellent amendment moved by the member for Kennedy, which goes to the specific and distinctive characteristics of farming enterprises and of enterprises in regional and remote Australia more broadly. His amendment covers both farming enterprises and businesses in regional, rural and remote Australia. Again, we know that businesses in regional, rural and remote Australia have characteristics that make them different to businesses in metropolitan Australia. Supply chains are longer and more uncertain. A flood can knock out supplies for weeks. Power can be less reliable. And there's a requirement in any—</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  I call the member for Kennedy on a point of order.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="HX4" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Katter:</span>
                    </a>  Yes, I'm being misrepresented here. I'm not opposing the ambit of the bill in rural and rural areas. I'm opposing the bill's ambit for farming.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  That's not a point of order. If you claim to be misrepresented—</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="HX4" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Katter:</span>
                    </a>  I was misrepresented. He was saying—</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Okay. Resume your seat. I will call you when the member has finished his speech.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="L6B" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr FLETCHER:</span>
                    </a>  In the remaining time available to me, I enthusiastically repeat the opposition's support for the excellent amendment of the member for Kennedy. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  Does the member for Kennedy wish to take a misrepresentation?</span>
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                    <a href="HX4" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Katter:</span>
                    </a>  No, I just want to make the point that I want the benefits of this bill to flow into rural and regional Australia, but in farming I just don't think we can cope with it.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The member has not claimed to be misrepresented.</span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                  <name role="metadata">Katter, Bob MP</name>
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                  <electorate>Kennedy</electorate>
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                <page.no>66</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Pearce, Gavin MP</name>
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                <electorate>Braddon</electorate>
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                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Braddon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:43</span>):  I rise to support the farming amendment proposed by the member for Kennedy, and I take on board his comments delineating the exact meaning of his amendment. But as I do so, I do so not only as the representative for Braddon but also as a beef producer and crop grower from the north-west coast of Tasmania. The point I want to make today is that there's an old saying that an old farmer once used, and that is that you shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you. The point I make from that is the fact that here in this place we live in a very different environment, a very sterile—</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">A government member interjecting</span>—</span>
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                    </a>  You're obviously getting a feed! Thank a farmer. But the point I make—</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The member for Braddon will resume his seat. Those remarks are not helpful or indeed part of the debate. I'm going to ask him to withdraw that comment and direct all his comments through the chair, not directly to other members.</span>
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                    </a>  I withdraw. The point I make—and it's a passionate one—is that the farming communities we have right across this nation live in a very different place to those that live and operate in this place. This is a sterile place. This is a place where decisions are made on numbers. However, the risks that are encountered by the farming community are immense. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">All across the electorate of Braddon this morning, before four o'clock, farmers got up and milked their cows. One employee would go out on an ATV or a UTV and get the herd of 300 or 400 cows into the dairy, and a crew would come in to milk the cows. There would be a team to wash the teats of those animals, there would be another team to put the teat cups on, there would be another team to take the teat cups off, there would be another person there to apply Redene disinfectant to the animal. Then another person would take that herd back out to the paddock and another employee would get on a tractor with a fertiliser applicator to fertilise the pasture. After that, someone would come along and grab the spray rig and they'd go out to apply spray to that piece of pasture. But the point I make is that each part of that labour chain requires a person, and the total number of these casual employees doing very specific work adds up to an aggregate, which is exactly, I think, where the member for Kennedy is going with his point about the peculiarities of farming. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The corporatisation of farming means that we need a more specialised labour force. It means that we need to have casual labour coming in from time to time, depending on the weather, depending on the season. Again, that's peculiar to farming. We're coming in to harvest time in the state of Tasmania. </span>
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                      <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Bu</span>
                      <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">rnell interjecting</span>—</span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The member for Spence is not helping this debate, and I ask him to cease interjecting. </span>
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                    </a>  The point I made prior to the interjection was that we're coming in to harvest time in Tasmania, and so we have another casual labour force that will take over, each, again, doing a very specific job that forms part of a casualised workforce that deals with the peculiarities and the seasonality of a farming operation. </span>
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                    </span>If I summarise the main points: the difference between a general workforce and the farming sector workforce is immense. It's like a different planet, and until we understand the nuances and the peculiar requirements necessary to conduct that agricultural operation then we're not doing them any service at all. Finally, I'd like to say that they've got enough to put up with. The environmental compliance, the animal husbandry compliance, the industrial relations compliance—these are not people that have specialised people in offices or departments to deal with IR legislation. These are mum-and-dad businesses, and when mum or dad is taken away that means that 50 per cent of their business has stopped being effective. Farmers and our farming communities, our agricultural sector right across— <span style="font-style:italic;">(Ti</span><span style="font-style:italic;">me expired)</span></span>
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                    </a>  Order! The member for Wannon does not have the call and will resume his seat. The member for Wannon is warned. The member for McEwen will cease interjecting. </span>
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                  <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                  <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <page.no>67</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
                <name.id>DYW</name.id>
                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Empl</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">oyment and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:49</span>):  I think the issues have been quite properly raised for debate and to be discussed in the parliament by the member for Kennedy. We've had a good discussion on this and we're at a point now where, once we finish the amendment debate, we will go immediately through to the final stages of the bill. The parliament now has a chance to get wages moving. I think we should proceed with that now and I ask that the amendment now be put to the House. </span>
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                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                    </a>  The question is that the amendment moved by the honourable member for Kennedy be disagreed to.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [12:54] <br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick) </p>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed to. </p>
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                <page.no>68</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                    <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">12:59</span>):  The question is that the bill, as amended, be agreed to.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [12:59] <br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick) </p>
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                  <name>Bandt, A. P.</name>
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                  <name>Bowen, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Burke, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Burnell, M. P.</name>
                  <name>Burns, J.</name>
                  <name>Butler, M. C.</name>
                  <name>Byrnes, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
                  <name>Chandler-Mather, M.</name>
                  <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                  <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                  <name>Clare J. D.</name>
                  <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
                  <name>Coker, E. A.</name>
                  <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                  <name>Daniel, Z.</name>
                  <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Fernando, C.</name>
                  <name>Freelander, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                  <name>Georganas, S.</name>
                  <name>Giles, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Gorman, P.</name>
                  <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Hill, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Husic, E. N.</name>
                  <name>Jones, S. P.</name>
                  <name>Katter, R. C.</name>
                  <name>Kearney, G. M.</name>
                  <name>Keogh, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Khalil, P.</name>
                  <name>King, C. F.</name>
                  <name>King, M. M. H.</name>
                  <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                  <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                  <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                  <name>Lim, S. B. C.</name>
                  <name>Marles, R. D.</name>
                  <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
                  <name>McBain, K. L.</name>
                  <name>McBride, E. M.</name>
                  <name>Miller-Frost, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, B. K.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, R. G.</name>
                  <name>Mulino, D.</name>
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                  <name>Payne, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Perrett, G. D.</name>
                  <name>Phillips, F. E.</name>
                  <name>Plibersek, T. J.</name>
                  <name>Rae, S. T.</name>
                  <name>Reid, G. J.</name>
                  <name>Repacholi, D. P.</name>
                  <name>Rishworth, A. L.</name>
                  <name>Roberts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Rowland, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, M. M.</name>
                  <name>Scrymgour, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Shorten, W. R.</name>
                  <name>Sitou, S.</name>
                  <name>Smith, D. P. B. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Stanley, A. M. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Swanson, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Templeman, S. R.</name>
                  <name>Thistlethwaite, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Thwaites, K. L.</name>
                  <name>Vamvakinou, M.</name>
                  <name>Watson-Brown, E.</name>
                  <name>Watts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Wells, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Wilkie, A. D.</name>
                  <name>Wilson, J. H.</name>
                  <name>Zappia, A.</name>
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                <num.votes>56</num.votes>
                <title>NOES</title>
                <names>
                  <name>Archer, B. K.</name>
                  <name>Bell, A. M.</name>
                  <name>Birrell, S. J.</name>
                  <name>Boyce, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Broadbent, R. E.</name>
                  <name>Buchholz, S.</name>
                  <name>Chaney, K. E.</name>
                  <name>Coleman, D. B.</name>
                  <name>Conaghan, P. J.</name>
                  <name>Coulton, M. M. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Dutton, P. C.</name>
                  <name>Entsch, W. G.</name>
                  <name>Fletcher, P. W.</name>
                  <name>Gee, A. R.</name>
                  <name>Gillespie, D. A.</name>
                  <name>Goodenough, I. R. </name>
                  <name>Haines, H. M.</name>
                  <name>Hamilton, G. R.</name>
                  <name>Hastie, A. W.</name>
                  <name>Hawke, A. G.</name>
                  <name>Joyce, B. T. G.</name>
                  <name>Landry, M. L.</name>
                  <name>Le, D.</name>
                  <name>Leeser, J.</name>
                  <name>Ley, S. P.</name>
                  <name>Littleproud, D.</name>
                  <name>Marino, N. B.</name>
                  <name>McCormack, M. F.</name>
                  <name>McIntosh, M. I.</name>
                  <name>Morrison, S. J.</name>
                  <name>O'Brien, E. L.</name>
                  <name>O'Brien, L. S.</name>
                  <name>Pearce, G. B.</name>
                  <name>Pike, H. J.</name>
                  <name>Pitt, K. J.</name>
                  <name>Ramsey, R. E. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Robert, S. R.</name>
                  <name>Scamps, S. A.</name>
                  <name>Sharkie, R. C. C.</name>
                  <name>Spender, A. M.</name>
                  <name>Steggall, Z.</name>
                  <name>Stevens, J.</name>
                  <name>Sukkar, M. S.</name>
                  <name>Taylor, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Tehan, D. T.</name>
                  <name>Thompson, P.</name>
                  <name>Tudge, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Vasta, R. X.</name>
                  <name>Violi, A. A.</name>
                  <name>Wallace, A. B.</name>
                  <name>Webster, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Willcox, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Wilson, R. J.</name>
                  <name>Wolahan, K.</name>
                  <name>Wood, J. P.</name>
                  <name>Young, T. J.</name>
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                <num.votes>0</num.votes>
                <title>PAIRS</title>
                <names />
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed. <br />Bill, as amended, agreed to.<br /></p>
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        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Third Reading</title>
            <page.no>69</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Third Reading</span>
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                <page.no>69</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
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                    <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal"> </span>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [13:02]<br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick)</p>
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              <ayes>
                <num.votes>80</num.votes>
                <title>AYES</title>
                <names>
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                  <name>Ananda-Rajah, M.</name>
                  <name>Bandt, A. P.</name>
                  <name>Bates, S. J.</name>
                  <name>Bowen, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Burke, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Burnell, M. P.</name>
                  <name>Burns, J.</name>
                  <name>Butler, M. C.</name>
                  <name>Byrnes, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
                  <name>Chandler-Mather, M.</name>
                  <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                  <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                  <name>Clare J. D.</name>
                  <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
                  <name>Coker, E. A.</name>
                  <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                  <name>Daniel, Z.</name>
                  <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Fernando, C.</name>
                  <name>Freelander, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                  <name>Georganas, S.</name>
                  <name>Giles, A. J.</name>
                  <name>Gorman, P.</name>
                  <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Hill, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Husic, E. N.</name>
                  <name>Jones, S. P.</name>
                  <name>Katter, R. C.</name>
                  <name>Kearney, G. M.</name>
                  <name>Keogh, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Khalil, P.</name>
                  <name>King, C. F.</name>
                  <name>King, M. M. H.</name>
                  <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                  <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                  <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                  <name>Lim, S. B. C.</name>
                  <name>Marles, R. D.</name>
                  <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
                  <name>McBain, K. L.</name>
                  <name>McBride, E. M.</name>
                  <name>Miller-Frost, L. J.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, B. K.</name>
                  <name>Mitchell, R. G.</name>
                  <name>Mulino, D.</name>
                  <name>Neumann, S. K.</name>
                  <name>O'Connor, B. P. J.</name>
                  <name>O'Neil, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Payne, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Perrett, G. D.</name>
                  <name>Phillips, F. E.</name>
                  <name>Plibersek, T. J.</name>
                  <name>Rae, S. T.</name>
                  <name>Reid, G. J.</name>
                  <name>Repacholi, D. P.</name>
                  <name>Rishworth, A. L.</name>
                  <name>Roberts, T. G.</name>
                  <name>Rowland, M. A.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, J. C.</name>
                  <name>Ryan, M. M.</name>
                  <name>Scrymgour, M. R.</name>
                  <name>Shorten, W. R.</name>
                  <name>Sitou, S.</name>
                  <name>Smith, D. P. B. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Stanley, A. M. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Swanson, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Templeman, S. R.</name>
                  <name>Thistlethwaite, M. J.</name>
                  <name>Thwaites, K. L.</name>
                  <name>Vamvakinou, M.</name>
                  <name>Watson-Brown, E.</name>
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                  <name>Wells, A. S.</name>
                  <name>Wilkie, A. D.</name>
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                  <name>Zappia, A.</name>
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                  <name>Boyce, C. E.</name>
                  <name>Broadbent, R. E.</name>
                  <name>Buchholz, S.</name>
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                  <name>Coleman, D. B.</name>
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                  <name>Coulton, M. M. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Dutton, P. C.</name>
                  <name>Entsch, W. G.</name>
                  <name>Fletcher, P. W.</name>
                  <name>Gee, A. R.</name>
                  <name>Gillespie, D. A.</name>
                  <name>Goodenough, I. R. </name>
                  <name>Haines, H. M.</name>
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                  <name>Hastie, A. W.</name>
                  <name>Hawke, A. G.</name>
                  <name>Joyce, B. T. G.</name>
                  <name>Landry, M. L.</name>
                  <name>Le, D.</name>
                  <name>Leeser, J.</name>
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                  <name>Littleproud, D.</name>
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                  <name>McCormack, M. F.</name>
                  <name>McIntosh, M. I.</name>
                  <name>Morrison, S. J.</name>
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                  <name>O'Brien, L. S.</name>
                  <name>Pearce, G. B.</name>
                  <name>Pike, H. J.</name>
                  <name>Pitt, K. J.</name>
                  <name>Ramsey, R. E. (Teller)</name>
                  <name>Robert, S. R.</name>
                  <name>Scamps, S. A.</name>
                  <name>Sharkie, R. C. C.</name>
                  <name>Spender, A. M.</name>
                  <name>Steggall, Z.</name>
                  <name>Stevens, J.</name>
                  <name>Sukkar, M. S.</name>
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                  <name>Tehan, D. T.</name>
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                  <name>Tudge, A. E.</name>
                  <name>Vasta, R. X.</name>
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                  <name>Willcox, A. J.</name>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed to.<br />Bill read a third time.</p>
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        </subdebate.2>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>National Anti-Corruption Commission Bill 2022, National Anti-Corruption Commission (Consequential and Transitional Provisions) Bill 2022</title>
          <page.no>70</page.no>
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              <a href="r6917" type="Bill">
                <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">National Anti-Corruption Commission Bill 2022</span>
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            </p>
            <a href="r6920" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">National Anti-Corruption Commission (Consequential and Transitional Provisions) Bill 2022</span>
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            </a>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <subdebate.2>
          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Report from Committee</title>
            <page.no>70</page.no>
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          <subdebate.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-SubSubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Report from Committee</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>70</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Haines, Helen MP</name>
                <name.id>282335</name.id>
                <electorate>Indi</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.text>
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                    <a href="282335" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr HAINES</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Indi</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:05</span>):  On behalf of the Joint Select Committee on National Anti-Corruption Commission Legislation, I present the committee's advisory report on the provisions of the National Anti-Corruption Commission Bill 2022 and the National Anti-Corruption Commission (Consequential and Transitional Provisions) Bill 2022.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Ordered that the report be made a parliamentary paper.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="282335" type="MemberContinuation">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Dr HAINES:</span>
                    </a>  by leave—After decades as a nurse and midwife, one of the reasons I entered politics was to bring the standards I saw in my professional life, upheld by everyday people, into political life. Trust and confidence in our nationally elected representatives and public officials have never been more critical. It's deeply regrettable that this faith and confidence in our parliament and public institutions have been eroded. In 2021 Australia scored 73 out of 100 on Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index, ranking Australia 18th among the 180 countries assessed. This marks a concerning decline of 12 points since 2012. Australians deserve better from their politicians. Australians need and deserve to know that the decisions being made which impact their lives are not affected by corrupt conduct.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Like many people in this House, I stand here as someone who is elected by my community for my commitment to fight for integrity in politics and not to stop until we have a robust anticorruption commission—not a flimsy facade, not a toothless tiger, not a halfway house, but a strong, independent and enduring institution that is trusted by the Australian people and that takes its place as a pillar of our democratic and accountable system of government. This is why the establishment of a National Anti-Corruption Commission is a watershed moment in our nation's history.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The National Anti-Corruption Commission will play an integral role in restoring public trust by fostering a culture of transparency and accountability in Australia's democracy. This is a once-in-a-generation reform. I am humbled to have the honour of tabling this report in the House today. This is the accumulation of decades of work on integrity reforms and a busy six weeks reviewing this bill. The government have introduced the National Anti-Corruption Commission legislation as a legislative priority, and I congratulate them on that.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The Joint Select Committee, constituting of members of both houses, has taken the task of analysing and considering these bills seriously. All members of the committee have worked hard to ensure that the key issues raised by the bills were given due consideration, and the committee worked collaboratively to identify ways that the bills could be improved. The committee heard from a wide range of organisations and individuals, including: Commonwealth agencies; past and present commissioners and inspectors of state and territory based anticorruption commissions; law societies; unions; think tanks; civil liberties groups; and journalists and media organisations. Many of these organisations and individuals have a long history of advocating for the establishment of a National Anti-Corruption Commission, and have made significant contributions to the debate over a number of years. I thank them. It was clear to the committee that the overwhelming majority of groups and individuals supported the establishment of a National Anti-Corruption Commission, and there was broad agreement in relation to a number of core elements of the bill, including: having broad jurisdiction and investigative powers; the broad definition of corrupt conduct; the referral mechanisms which allow any person to bring a matter to the attention of the commission; and the consistent treatment of all public officials.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The report today makes six key recommendations for changes to the National Anti-Corruption Commission Bill. These include clarification of the extent of the protection for journalists' sources, a proposal to increase the scope of the role of the National Anti-Corruption Commission inspector, clarification as to National Anti-Corruption Commissioner's power to undertake own motion investigations, creating an exemption for disclosure of certain information to medical professionals and psychologists, a change to the definition of 'corrupt conduct' and changes to the circumstances in which an exonerated person is required to be notified of the outcome of an investigation. The committee considers that these changes would improve the functioning of the NACC, having regard to the evidence received.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It is important to say that in its deliberations the committee noted diverse views about certain elements of the bill. Those different perspectives are set out in the report tabled today. The committee thanks those who made submissions or appeared at hearings for their thoughtful contributions.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It was important to me that the committee had a consensus report to support the passage of the bill. It was important to all members of the committee, in fact. The best decisions are reached through collaboration and consensus. If the National Anti-Corruption Commission is to withstand the changes of government and the whims of the times it needs multipartisan support from the beginning. It is my sincere hope that this consensus continues beyond the committee and that all members of this parliament vote as one to pass this bill.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Members of the committee differed on how to reach the shared goal of a robust Anti-Corruption Commission. Like other members and senators, I will make my case in parliament for further improvement in this bill before we deliver to the Australian people the National Anti-Corruption Commission that they deserve, that is fit for purpose and that fulfils its role for many years to come. I hope sincerely that all members and senators will engage in the debate on the bill, with the work of this committee to guide them, with civility and with well-considered argument. That's how parliament should work.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I would like to thank my fellow committee members for their close engagement and the knowledgeable contributions each member made to this inquiry. In particular, I wish to thank the Chair, Senator Linda White, for her expertise, good judgement and excellent humour. The committee in particular thanks the secretariat for their tireless efforts in preparing the report and assisting the committee with hearings and other matters. They have done a power of work on a very technical topic with grace, forbearance and an unwavering commitment to doing justice to the task at hand.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The job of striving for integrity in politics is never done, but by legislating the National Anti-Corruption Commission we can set a new standard. This is a landmark opportunity to implement an integrity commission that holds politicians to account and creates a better level of transparency and governance at the federal level. I commend this report to the House.</span>
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              <talk.start>
                <talker>
                  <page.no>70</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Haines, Helen MP</name>
                  <name.id>282335</name.id>
                  <electorate>Indi</electorate>
                  <party>IND</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>72</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">BILLS</span>
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          <title>Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Reform (Closing the Hole in the Ozone Layer) Bill 2022, Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas (Import Levy) Amendment Bill 2022, Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas (Manufacture Levy) Amendment Bill 2022</title>
          <page.no>72</page.no>
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              <a href="r6918" type="Bill">
                <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Reform (Closing the Hole in the Ozone Layer) Bill 2022</span>
                </p>
              </a>
              <a href="r6921" type="Bill">
                <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas (Import Levy) Amendment Bill 2022</span>
                </p>
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            </p>
            <a href="r6922" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas (Manufacture Levy) Amendment Bill 2022</span>
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          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>72</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Cognate debate.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>72</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">O'Brien, Ted MP</name>
                <name.id>138932</name.id>
                <electorate>Fairfax</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="138932" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TED O'BRIEN</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fairfax</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:14</span>):  I'm delighted to stand to speak about the Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Reform (Closing the Hole in the Ozone Layer) Bill 2022. As we well know, there is much about which we disagree in this place, in this chamber, on many topics, and we have seen that on display very much today. It is a pleasure, therefore, to be standing to speak about a bill on which we agree with those on the government benches. So indeed today, as we speak about this piece of legislation, we do so with a real sense of bipartisanship. And it's probably a reminder that, despite the fact that parties such as the Labor Party and the Liberal and National parties of the coalition have very different political philosophies, when it comes to the big picture on things such as the environment everybody wants the same end goal. Everybody wants to ensure that they leave the planet a better, safer and indeed cleaner place than they found it. I think it is that aspirational drive or a cleaner world that, at the highest of levels, can unite everybody in this chamber.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What often divides is the question of how we go about it. But here today we have a bill where we also have unity on the question of how. And we come at this as a coalition, as Liberals and Nationals, very proud of our history on things relating to the environment, to management of biodiversity and also to issues of conservation. Indeed, you could argue that the conservative side of politics are the original conservationists. It was Edmund Burke who talked about his version of being a conservative, that it is a calling of protecting, a calling of an organic society, guided by intergenerational responsibility. That means responsibility to the land, to the water, to the broader atmosphere. It is why, when you're at a branch meeting for fellow members of the Liberal and National parties or in Queensland the LNP, you will have people around those tables who are very well versed, because they have the lived experience of working on and protecting the land and the waterways. And it is why we are so proud as a coalition of our track record when it comes to matters of the environment.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">What we have today, though, is something that goes beyond just the coalition; it is indeed bipartisan. We are building on the signing of the Montreal Protocol by the Hawke government some 33 years ago. Since then we have seen successive governments of various political stripes building on and supporting that basic agreement signed up to by that government. Indeed, it was the Abbott government that decided to trigger a review into the programs that are being legislated for today. Tony Abbott did that as Prime Minister on the basis, again, of building on it and improving it. It was then the Turnbull government that picked up some of those recommendations from the review and legislated for them, and now we are in the 47th Parliament and the Albanese Labor government is seeking to legislate to enact some of those other recommendations coming from the Abbott government's review.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The bills before the House very much mirror what the coalition had put before the election and of course the lapsing of parliament. We now have the new government putting them forward, but they very much mirror what the coalition was looking at, and they are in three parts, the first part being the Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Reform (Closing the Hole in the Ozone Layer) Bill 2022. That principally looks at improving the program for synthetic greenhouse gas management, with that program to be modernised with greater compliance and enforcement arrangements, inserting into law various obligations that are currently imposed only by licensed conditions, better clarifying licence and exemption requirements and increasing the time permitted for businesses to submit and report and pay levies.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Then there are two other bills that have come before the parliament bundled together, and they are the import levy bill and the manufacture levy bill. This is all about ensuring that we have improved efficiency in the management and the administration of those two levies, which are used to recover the costs associated with the operation of the program to which I just referred. This includes removing the caps on the levy rates for the program, the creation of a capacity for the manufacture levy rate to be more flexibly set, delegation to senior departmental officials of the power of the minister to grant exemptions to levy payments, and the abolition of the levy applied to the importation of ODS equipment. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In summary, the coalition is happy to stand with the Albanese government on what has become, over decades, a bipartisan approach to ensure that we protect the ozone layer and ensure that we better the environment. In these times, when there is much disagreement in the policy areas of climate and energy, it is indeed a pleasure to stand here today with the government on this bill with a sense of real unity.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">
                    </span>
                    <span style="font-style:italic;">(Quorum formed)</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>73</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Perrett, Graham Douglas MP</name>
                <name.id>HVP</name.id>
                <electorate>Moreton</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="HVP" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr PERRETT</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moreton</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:23</span>):  I know—like everyone in the chamber who has come to hear my speech!—we're very pleased to hear the former government speak about the ozone protection and synthetic greenhouse gas bills 2022. I had been intending to say something positive about the member for Fairfax! On a day of division, when it comes to legislation about protecting the world's ozone layer, it is a bipartisan story. When it comes to human survival, it's great to see humans—animals that evolved in intelligence in the Darwinian struggle to survive in the jungle—actually come together and use our intelligence for the good of humanity. More importantly, the story of ozone is a story of hope. When it comes to the battles humanity has to go through to save and protect our environment, this is a battle that we have to win. </span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The first time I remember hearing about the environment and that human beings could be responsible for damaging the world we live in was back in the 1980s—when I had much longer hair! At that time, scientists discovered there was a hole in the ozone layer. I had no idea, in high school, what the ozone layer was, but apparently the Brut deodorant I was using was contributing to making a hole in the ozone layer, and, if I didn't stop using Brut, the hole in the ozone layer was going to get bigger. But, like all teenage boys, I certainly needed to keep using Brut! I'm sure any teacher would know that. The member for Lalor, as a former principal, would know that grade 9 boys need a lot of Brut deodorant. But having two teenage boys at home right now, I can attest, with all respect to my children, who I hope are not listening to this, that the need for teenage boys to wear deodorant has not dissipated.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Nevertheless, I go back to the hole in the ozone layer. The ozone hole would cause the sun to burn our skin more, and it would damage our crops and all life on our planet. So we all had to do something about it, rather than rely on teenage boys to stop sweating. What the scientists said was that man-made chemicals in everyday products such as aerosols, refrigerators and air conditioners were harming the ozone layer. These products had chlorofluorocarbon gases, and these CFC gases were a big problem.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The most astonishing thing—and it's actually sad to say that it's astonishing—is that, when scientists raised the alarm, the world listened. The world listening to scientists should actually be the norm. In 1985, when a hole was confirmed in the ozone layer over Antarctica, the discovery galvanised public opinion. There were concerns about the risks of skin cancer, cataracts, sunburn et cetera because of ultraviolet radiation, and there were very good reasons for Australians, in the sunburnt country, to be worried and to act on protecting the ozone layer.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Protecting the stratospheric ozone layer is especially important for Queenslanders, because we have a lot of sun and we enjoy a very outdoorsy lifestyle, even in Townsville. So I was surprised that the member for Herbert would try to shut me down rather than hear about this. Ozone depletion allows more of the dangerous UV to reach the earth's surface, and this would have a direct effect on the health of Australians and on our environment.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australians felt exposed and vulnerable to ozone layer depletion. We became more attuned to the environmental impact of global activities. At the time, apparently, Australia was one of the world's largest per capita users of CFCs and halons. So, when the scientists raised the alarm about CFC gases, world leaders decided not to wait. What they did instead was apply what's called the precautionary principle: if in doubt, cut it out. Even before the science was settled, they started to act. Imagine how far along we would be with reducing our greenhouse emissions if some Australian politicians, such as Tony Abbott and his cronies, had taken the same approach to climate change.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">In the eighties the environment was not the polarising issue it is today. What's even more remarkable about that is that you have to remember the left-wing politicians who dominated the world stage back then. Do you remember that leftie Ronald Reagan and the British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher! The Soviet Union's leader was Mikhail Gorbachev. These were big figures in a world dominated by the politics of the Cold War. But despite their ideologies and their competing political interests, they still had to overcome business interests, Treasury doubts and political short-termism to protect the future health of the planet. They refused to accept the delaying tactics of chemical companies, some of which argued that action should wait until the science was clearer. Margaret Thatcher, not known for being a big supporter of regulation, was actually a leader in the push for the Montreal Protocol and in the effort to enable compliance by poorer countries. While many uncertainties over the science remained, President Reagan recognised the danger posed by the ozone hole and backed international negotiations to ban CFCs—Ronald Reagan!</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">On 1 January 1989, the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer became law. By contrast, politicians today in Australia can be very fiercely divided over the government's role in helping to end climate change. The scientists are united, but some politicians are still arguing. Unfortunately, the public can be divided along partisan lines as well because of this bad leadership.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The internet easily lets people do their own research. But, luckily, in the eighties the world responded. At the time there were consumer boycotts, political action and a huge investment in new technologies to replacing CFCs in all their commercial and industrial uses. In his signing statement, former trade unionist and well-known environmentalist Ronald Reagan heralded the Montreal Protocol as 'a model of cooperation' and as 'a product of the recognition and international consensus that ozone depletion is a global problem'.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">New CFC production was virtually brought to a halt over the 1990s and early 2000s. It took a while to phase out existing devices that used CFCs, but CFC emissions have been steadily falling since the protocol went into effect. The Montreal Protocol was the first agreement in the history of the United Nations to be ratified by all 197 countries.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">There are actually two ozone holes: one above each pole. But since the Montreal Protocol came into effect, more than 99 per cent of the gases responsible for the polar problems have been eradicated. According to the latest United Nations study, the ozone holes are healing at the rate of one to three per cent a decade. Well done humanity, well done scientists and well done politicians who know how to lead a country!</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="248181" type="MemberInterjecting">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                    </a>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Claydon</span>
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  The debate is interrupted in accordance with standing order 43. The debate may be resumed at a later hour and if the member's speech has been interrupted he will be granted leave to continue.</span>
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                <talker>
                  <page.no>74</page.no>
                  <time.stamp />
                  <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                  <name.id>248181</name.id>
                  <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
                  <party>ALP</party>
                  <in.gov />
                  <first.speech />
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              <talk.text>
              </talk.text>
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        <title>STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS</title>
        <page.no>74</page.no>
        <type>STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS</span>
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          <title>Budget</title>
          <page.no>74</page.no>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Budget</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>74</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Taylor, Angus MP</name>
              <name.id>231027</name.id>
              <electorate>Hume</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="231027" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TAYLOR</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hume</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:30</span>):  The Labor government has broken yet another election promise in the budget, this time on changes to franking credit policy. Before the election, both the Prime Minister and the Treasurer ruled out explicitly any changes to franking credits. On 2 January 2021, in a speech the Prime Minister said:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">… we will not be taking any changes to franking credits to the next election ...</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">On 17 January this year, the Treasurer said, 'We won't be doing franking credits; I couldn't be clearer than that.' But in the budget, there it is: a new tax on franking credits. An unannounced $550 million tax grab on retirees and Australian investors right there in Budget Paper No. 2. This is something never promised at the election and something never consulted or floated with industry.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Now, when asked in Senate estimates this week, the finance minister didn't even seem to be across the policy. She didn't seem to realise that a change to the franking credit policy was in the budget. In fact, the minister had to come back to correct the record. When she was asked the following day to explain the changes she was unable to do so.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's clear that the government has decided to pursue its 2019 tax increases incrementally. With Labor, the destination is always the same: higher taxes—sapping aspiration, ruining confidence and dragging down the productive capacity of the economy.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Beef Industry</title>
          <page.no>74</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Beef Industry</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>74</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Gosling, Luke MP</name>
              <name.id>245392</name.id>
              <electorate>Solomon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="245392" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GOSLING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Solomon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:31</span>):  The LIVEXchange conference is underway in my home town of Darwin at the moment. Australia's live cattle export trade contributes more than $1 billion to our national economy each year. It employs over 1,500 people, with over 80 per cent of those jobs in northern Australia. In the last financial year alone, 240,000 cattle were exported from the Port of Darwin, and that rises to more than 1.7 million cattle exported since 2017.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">As a Territorian, I'm proud to celebrate this industry and to reaffirm the Albanese Labor government's support of the live cattle industry. From the cattle stations to the export yards at Berrimah, this is essential to the Northern Territory's economy. Our government is strengthening markets and the quality of meat produced in our country through investments in biosecurity, livestock traceability, trade focus, drought resilience and much, much more.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I send my best wishes to those in the industry who are together in Darwin at the moment—those representatives at the LIVEXchange conference in Darwin. On behalf of the government, we look forward to working together to strengthen Australia's live cattle industry.</span>
              </p>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Bonner Electorate: Roads</title>
          <page.no>74</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Bonner Electorate: Roads</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>74</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Vasta, Ross MP</name>
              <name.id>E0D</name.id>
              <electorate>Bonner</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="E0D" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr VASTA</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bonner</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:33</span>):  I'm pleased to say that the much-needed safety upgrades at the notorious Rochedale roundabout are almost complete. Traffic lights have been installed recently and the final stages are well and truly underway. Over 19,000 vehicles use the Rochedale roundabout daily, largely due to the traffic flow from five local schools and a large childcare centre converging on this location. Working with both Brisbane City Council and Logan City Council, I am proud to have secured $14 million in federal government funding to improve road safety and to cater for future traffic demands.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Another important project that is getting people home sooner and safer is the Newnham and Wecker roads intersection upgrade. I'm happy to say that the on-road construction works are now complete, with the intersection being fully operational for all road users. Voted by RACQ as the fifth-most dangerous intersection in Queensland, there was a desperate need for traffic and safety improvements at this intersection. Working closely with Brisbane Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner and the Brisbane City Council, I was able to deliver $12 million in federal funding for this vital project, which now improves the safety for around 35,000 vehicles and 474 buses, as well as for cyclists and pedestrians every day.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I am determined to keep fighting for the people of Bonner, to ensure that they have safe and reliable roads so that they can spend less time on the road and more time with their loved ones.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet"> </span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Lissett, Mr Richard</title>
          <page.no>75</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Lissett, Mr Richard</span>
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          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>75</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Roberts, Tracey MP</name>
              <name.id>157125</name.id>
              <electorate>Pearce</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="157125" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms ROBERTS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Pearce</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:34</span>):  Today I stand to applaud all the amazing volunteers within our communities and to recognise one of my wonderful residents, Mr Richard Lissett from the Quinns Mindarie Surf Life Saving Club. Richard won the DHL Volunteer of the Year award at the Surf Life Saving Australia National Awards of Excellence last weekend. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Richard's volunteering efforts cover a wide range of roles, including director of lifesaving, director of education, club captain and age-group manager—all in addition to his commitment to more than 100 hours of patrolling. He established the club's first IT committee to tackle the challenges of a fast-growing club. Richard used his corporate strategic planning skills to develop the club's strategic plan, in addition to reviewing and redrafting all club policies and procedures to ensure appropriate governance and alignment with both Surf Life Saving WA and Surf Life Saving Australia. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Richard is passionate about ensuring the club looks beyond the flags and engages with the broader community and local government to help realise the vision and mission of Surf Life Saving Australia. With 32 kilometres of coastline in the Pearce electorate, our volunteer surf lifesavers are always kept incredibly busy, and I would like to sincerely congratulate Richard on his well-deserved award. </span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Middle East</title>
          <page.no>75</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Middle East</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>75</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wilkie, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>C2T</name.id>
              <electorate>Clark</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="C2T" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WILKIE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Clark</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:36</span>):  Six weeks ago a healthy seven-year-old boy died on his way home from school when he was chased by Israeli soldiers. His little heart couldn't take it, and he was literally scared to death. He is not even among the 41 Palestinian children who just this year have been directly killed by Israeli forces. No wonder the UN Human Rights Commission report released last month concluded that Israel's occupation of Palestine is inherently illegal, because, while military occupations are permitted temporarily, Israel has used it to thwart Palestinian self-determination for 55 years, stealing lands and national resources. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Moreover, the UN Special Rapporteur report, also released last month, concluded that previous peace processes had failed because they did not recognise Palestinians' enduring subordinate status. She said, 'A breach in international law should not be subjected to negotiations, as this would legitimise what is illegal.' The report even suggested that Israel's actions could constitute apartheid. Mind you, this term still doesn't capture the inherent complexities and consequences of the illegal occupation of Palestine. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's time for Australia and the world to scale-up our response to this horrific situation. I do commend the government's reset on Jerusalem, but now we must also recognise Palestine, call for Israeli accountability in international courts and compel Israel to allow Palestinians to have the most basic of rights: self-determination. </span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Middle East, Parke, Hon Ms Melissa</title>
          <page.no>75</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p>
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Middle East</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Parke, Hon Ms Melissa</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>75</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Zappia, Tony MP</name>
              <name.id>HWB</name.id>
              <electorate>Makin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWB" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr ZAPPIA</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Makin</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:37</span>):  Last Saturday, 4 November, a former member of this place who represented the Fremantle electorate, Melissa Parke, was awarded the 2022 Jerusalem Peace Prize at a ceremony held at Melbourne Town Hall. The award recognises the long-standing contribution that Melissa has made in seeking justice and fairness for the Palestinian people. In doing so, Melissa has been the subject of ongoing personal attacks in the media and in political commentary, but she has never wavered from her convictions. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Melissa had previously spent time in Palestine working for the UN and saw first-hand the daily hardships, violence and repression of Palestinian people and the ruthless incursion of Israeli settlements into their land. Almost daily, new reports of violations against Palestinian people are exposed, and all too often the victims are children. There is also the case of Mohammed El-Halabi, a World Vision aid worker who earlier this year was sentenced by an Israeli court to 12 years imprisonment on charges that World Vision found no evidence to support in a trial where procedural fairness and transparency did not meet international standards. That is a glaring example. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I congratulate Melissa on being awarded the Jerusalem Peace Prize, and I commend her for her ongoing human rights work throughout the world. </span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cost of Living, Taxation</title>
          <page.no>76</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p>
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Cost of Living</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Taxation</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>76</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chandler-Mather, Max MP</name>
              <name.id>300121</name.id>
              <electorate>Griffith</electorate>
              <party>AG</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300121" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr CHANDLER-MATHER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Griffith</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:39</span>):  Over the last five years, 71 big coal, oil and gas companies made $826 billion and paid just 1.9 per cent on that in tax. That's almost a trillion dollars, and the country got less than two per cent. Australia is held hostage by multinational corporations sucking our country dry and a bunch of Labor and Liberal politicians either too gutless or compromised to stand up to them. Let's not forget that these same companies have donated just under $10 million to Labor and the coalition. And in the face of such extreme wealth let's not forget what this Labor government believes is acceptable: young families having to take out after-pay debts just to afford groceries, millions struggling to pay the rent or mortgage or on the brink of homelessness, and chronically underfunded schools and hospitals. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Recently, Matt Tilley from Foodbank told the ABC that a woman had asked how long she could keep yoghurt for, that she'd picked up from Foodbank, because she was hoping to give it to her kids as a treat for Christmas. The Prime Minister said yesterday we should judge a country on how it treats the most vulnerable. So what do we make of a government that thinks it's acceptable for single mums to live on $48 a day while fossil fuel companies make a trillion dollars? </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>Right now, we have a government that's tough on people living in poverty, tough on renters and tough on everyday people but generous to multinational gas corporations. The Greens want to tax the super profits of coal, oil and gas, to freeze energy bills and give everyone the health, housing, education and incomes they need to live a good life. Labor's job is to explain to their electorates why they think that a trillion dollars is better off in the pockets of their corporate donors than it is in the pockets of the people that need it. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired) </span></span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Endometriosis</title>
          <page.no>76</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Endometriosis</span>
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        <talk>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>76</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Payne, Alicia MP</name>
              <name.id>144732</name.id>
              <electorate>Canberra</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
          </talk.text>
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      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Herbert Electorate: AEIOU Foundation</title>
          <page.no>76</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Herbert Electorate: AEIOU Foundation</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>76</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Thompson, Phillip MP</name>
              <name.id>281826</name.id>
              <electorate>Herbert</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="281826" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr THOMPSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Herbert</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:42</span>):  There is a fantastic organisation in Townsville called AEIOU. They provide support for young families and children who have autism. I've met with this organisation since I've been elected to this place and I've met with families that attend AEIOU. One mother told me that their son had never looked at their father and said, 'Dad' or 'I love you,' and would ignore him when he walked past. It was just heartbreaking. After attending AEIOU and getting the specialised support for this young person, he now looks at his dad and says, 'Dad, I love you.' </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">As a father I couldn't be more proud than to support this fantastic organisation. In the last budget we also secured $2 million for a new location for AEIOU. This is to expand their service, to ensure that they can continue to do their job well and support more families and children in Townsville. We know that our young people are our future, and if they need a little bit of extra support we should wrap it around them.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm thankful to the government for working with me in securing this funding and, on behalf of Townsville and the families of Townsville, we say thank you. And we say thank you to the people who work at AEIOU: you do a fantastic job. </span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Chisholm Electorate: Wages</title>
          <page.no>77</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Chisholm Electorate: Wages</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>77</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Garland, Carina MP</name>
              <name.id>295588</name.id>
              <electorate>Chisholm</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="295588" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr GARLAND</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Ch</span><span class="HPS-Electorate">isholm</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:43</span>):  We are in the midst of a wages crisis, a cost-of-living crisis inherited from the previous government who sought to keep wages low, lacking ambition for Australia. Today the Albanese Labor government has passed through this House important legislation to get wages moving again—after a decade with those opposite presiding over a horrible period for Australian workers and communities.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">My community is feeling the impacts of low wages and the cost of living. United Workers Union members, local workers in my electorate of Chisholm, are standing up for decent wages. Local, highly skilled workers have been taking action at Pfizer in my electorate for a deal that is fair after receiving a poor offer. While profits have been increasing and Pfizer recorded a historic profit of $25 billion last financial year, wages have stalled. This is bad for everyone in my community. It's less money to spend at the local shops and, with the added pressure of growing job insecurity or unreasonable workloads, it's less time spent in the community—at our sporting clubs, neighbourhood houses and school groups. I met with the local Pfizer workers, and they are proud of their skilled work and love their jobs, but love won't pay the bills. I hope a good deal can be struck that gets wages moving again and our community thriving.</span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Universities</title>
          <page.no>77</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Universities</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>77</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Tudge, Alan MP</name>
              <name.id>M2Y</name.id>
              <electorate>Aston</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="M2Y" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TUDGE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Aston</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:45</span>):  Across Australia, year 12 students are finishing their exams and making decisions about their studies next year—decisions that will define their future. But in a lot of cases they're making that decision without knowing the facts about whether their preferred university course will be taught face to face or online, or a mixture of both and in what ratio. This is unacceptable. I recently wrote to the Minister for Education and to Universities Australia, calling for this data to be published in full, immediately. I received a cursory response from the minister and nothing from the peak body. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There's also a broader point here about the student learning experience at our universities. In many cases, it's not good enough and it's not delivering on what was promised. I hear constantly from students dissatisfied with their course, or getting online courses when they were promised face to face. Universities, like any other service provider, should be accountable for their service offering, particularly when students are paying thousands of dollars. If you ordered a Mercedes Benz and a three-year-old Corolla was delivered, you'd justifiably be unhappy with the outcome and feel entitled to a refund. If a university is not delivering quality, a refund should be provided to the students, and a new body, such as a university ombudsman, should be established to adjudicate on this. This would create the financial incentives for universities to lift their game. The government would get my full support if they took this up as a matter of urgency. </span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Nepal: Earthquake</title>
          <page.no>77</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Nepal: Earthquake</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>77</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Charlton, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>I8M</name.id>
              <electorate>Parramatta</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="I8M" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr CHARLTON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Parramatta</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:46</span>):  On Wednesday morning an earthquake struck Nepal, killing at least six people and destroying several homes. Nepal's seismological centre put it at a terrifying magnitude of 6.6. The victims include a 40-year-old woman, a 50-year-old man, three teenage girls and a boy just eight years old. I offer my deepest condolences to the bereaved families in this terrible tragedy.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The quake struck in the early hours of Wednesday, at a time when families were asleep and at home. The quake also struck at a time when Nepal is still rebuilding after two devastating earthquakes killed around 9,000 people in 2015. It destroyed entire towns, ancient temples and over 800,000 homes, and it caused massive economic damage. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The number of Nepalese born Australians has grown 25-fold since 2006, with over 122,000 living in Australia today. In my electorate of Parramatta, Nepalese Australians represent the third-largest group of overseas born residents. Nepalese Australians are a strong and thriving community, and much of this success is thanks to the support of local community leaders, including Goba Katuwal, Ramesh Pandey, Alex Karki, Binod Shresta and Barat Nepal. My thoughts are with the Nepalese community today. </span>
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        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Farrer Electorate: Floods</title>
          <page.no>77</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Farrer Electorate: Floods</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>77</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ley, Sussan Penelope MP</name>
              <name.id>00AMN</name.id>
              <electorate>Farrer</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="00AMN" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms LEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Farrer</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Leader of the Opposition</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:48</span>):  I rise to pay tribute to the untiring efforts of emergency workers and agencies working across my electorate to protect lives and property during this spring flooding. Right now, there are flood warnings for nearly every river, lake and creek in the electorate of Farrer: the Lachlan, Murrumbidgee, Murray and Edward rivers, as well as the lower Darling.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Despite better weather this week, this is not over. The La Nina pattern has set in, perhaps until the end of the year. There's 50 millimetres of rain forecast for New South Wales in the south, starting from tonight. This will see river peaks continue for many more weeks. More farmers will be forced to write off their crops. Sporting and social events will be cancelled, schools closed—if not because of the rain, because you just can't get on the road to travel. It continues to drain the mental health of many who live along these rivers. It impacts wildlife. It increases mosquito breeding areas, adding to the risk of viruses such as Japanese encephalitis. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">From Albury to Griffith, Narrandera and Darlington Point to Hay, Corowa, Deniliquin, Moama, Barham and more, communities are either divided by water, displaced from their homes and families, or down at the RFS shed, helping to fill sandbags, caring about the others in the community. This will end, and wide blue skies will return. But the clean-up and recovery will need to continue—as does my commitment to ensure the federal and New South Wales governments and your local councils will be there for you. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Redi Electorate: Kokoda Day</title>
          <page.no>78</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Redi Electorate: Kokoda Day</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>78</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Sitou, Sally MP</name>
              <name.id>298121</name.id>
              <electorate>Reid</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="298121" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SITOU</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Reid</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:49</span>):  On 3 November I attended the Kokoda Day service at the Kokoda Track Memorial Walkway in Concorde West to mark the 80th anniversary of the New Guinea campaign. I felt honoured to meet some of our last remaining veterans from that campaign: Bruce Robertson, aged 102; Reg Chard and Les Thompson, both aged 99; and David Trist, aged 98. They are extraordinary men who played an important role at a critical time in our country's history. Bruce Robertson was gracious enough to speak to me about his experiences. He spoke about the friends he lost. He also spoke about the extraordinary love of his wife, who was his fiancee before he went to war and who patiently waited for him to return. They got married and built a wonderful life together.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The commemoration last week was an opportunity to remember the courage of our diggers and honour their sacrifices. I was pleased the Assistant Minister for Veterans Affairs was able to attend and confirm our government's commitment to providing funding certainty to the memorial for four years so they can continue their great work. I thank the Kokoda Track Memorial Walkway board, in particular Jennifer Collins and Alice Kang, for keeping the memory of our veterans alive. Our veterans truly are the best of us. Lest we forget.</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Leichhardt Electorate: Business Excellence Awards</title>
          <page.no>78</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Leichhardt Electorate: Business Excellence Awards</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>78</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Entsch, Warren MP</name>
              <name.id>7K6</name.id>
              <electorate>Leichhardt</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="7K6" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr ENTSCH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Leichhardt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:51</span>):  On 21 October this year the Cairns Chamber of Commerce and James Cook University Business Excellence Awards were held. Since their inception 2017, the BEX awards, as they are commonly known, showcase business excellence and contributions businesses have made to the community of Cairns. With 10 categories, 188 nominees, 88 finalists, 18 judges and over 500 attendees, it was by no means a small event.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Competition was fierce, and I would like to take the opportunity to acknowledge each category winner: Business Technology Excellence Award—AirBridge Networks; Community Contribution Excellence Award—White Whale Coffee Roasters; Customer Service Delivery of Professional Services Excellence Award—Cairns Total Physio; Customer Service Trade and Retail Excellence Award—OMG Decadent Donuts FNQ; Indigenous Business Excellence Award—AFL Cape York House; Innovation Award—James Home Services Australia; Marketing and Communications Excellence Award—Skypark Cairns by AJ Hackett; People Management Excellence Award—ADhesive Communication; Sustainability and Environmental Excellence Award—The CaPTA Group; Emerging Leadership Award—Courtney Hansen; Legacy Award—Bill Cummings.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>Congratulations to Cairns chamber CEO Patricia O'Neill, her fantastic team and the board of the chamber for the successful evening. Once again, congratulations to all the nominees and award winners. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Aged Care</title>
          <page.no>78</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Aged Care</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>78</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Miller-Frost, Louise MP</name>
              <name.id>296272</name.id>
              <electorate>Boothby</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="296272" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms MILLER-FROST</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Boothby</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:52</span>):  I rise today to welcome the decision of the Fair Work Commission last Friday to award Australia's aged-care workers a 15 per cent pay increase, with the possibility of more to come. Last sitting period I had the pleasure of chatting to Glenda and Mandy, two passionate, dedicated aged-care professionals who came to parliament as part of a delegation of workers from the United Workers Union. I believe we have another United Workers Union delegation in the gallery today. Many thanks to the union for your work representing aged-care and childcare workers and other low-paid workers who are vital to our society. Glenda and Mandy typify what Australians already know—that aged-care workers really are the unsung heroes of our society, and for too long they have not been recognised as such in the wages.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In its ruling last week, the Fair Work Commission accepted that the workers in the aged-care sector were underpaid and that feminised industries like the caring professions have been historically undervalued, likely on the basis of gender. This ruling, which the government proudly supports, is just the beginning of the work needed to properly resource and recognise the aged-care sector. I'm pleased to say the aged-care providers I have spoken to have also welcomed this decision as helping them to attract and retain quality workers in the sector. I and the Albanese government will continue to advocate for aged-care workers and other vital workers until their essential contribution is recognised accordingly.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Young, Ms Belinda</title>
          <page.no>78</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Young, Ms Belinda</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>78</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Violi, Aaron MP</name>
              <name.id>300147</name.id>
              <electorate>Casey</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300147" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr VIOLI</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Casey</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:54</span>):  I rise to congratulate Belinda Young, a local mum in my electorate of Casey, who is the Victorian state recipient of the Australian of the Year Award in the Local Hero category. Belinda founded the Mums of the Hills Facebook group in 2015, to help mothers in the Dandenong Ranges to connect online and face-to-face. I've met with Belinda to discuss issues affecting our community and ways we can work together, including meeting with the then minister for communications, the Hon. Paul Fletcher, to discuss the problematic mobile and NBN coverage in the hills.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Belinda has provided a steady source of practical support to the community after recent natural disasters, from organising insurance, to bushfire preparedness, to chainsaw workshops, to coordinating storm related information so it's easier to access. She has advocated for better infrastructure and childcare services and met with all levels of government and other stakeholders to help her community respond to and recover from natural disasters.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Belinda worked passionately to provide support, resources and communications during the 2020 and 2021 lockdowns for local businesses and residents, including mental health and food resource directories. She has supported mothers escaping domestic violence and others facing financial struggles, fostering a sense of community and care in the Dandenong Ranges. Belinda is a worthy recipient and a tireless community advocate, and, to me, she is the only choice for the Australian 2023 Local Hero.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Remembrance Day</title>
          <page.no>79</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Remembrance Day</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>79</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Coker, Libby MP</name>
              <name.id>263547</name.id>
              <electorate>Corangamite</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="263547" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms COKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Corangamite</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:56</span>):  Tomorrow is Remembrance Day, a significant day in our nation's annual calendar. We reflect on the world wars and on subsequent wars, battles and peacekeeping duties that have seen Australian men and women leave the safety of our shores to serve for us. We remember all those who have paid the ultimate price, those who have suffered and been injured and the families, friends and communities who have experienced loss. We take time to remember those who are serving today. Without their service and sacrifice, the freedom and peace Australians often take for granted might not exist.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I will be paying my respects and laying a wreath at the commemorative ceremony at the Ocean Grove Park cenotaph in my electorate of Corangamite. Others will lay wreaths on my behalf at ceremonies across my electorate.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We acknowledge that it's not easy for many who've returned from war, nor for their families. That's why our government is investing in additional veterans and families hubs across the country, more than doubling the existing network. These hubs will be in electorates like mine, and I'm very proud to have fought for an integrated support systems for veterans and families.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese government honours and respects our veterans past and present. Lest we forget.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Safer Communities Fund</title>
          <page.no>79</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Safer Communities Fund</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>79</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wood, Jason MP</name>
              <name.id>E0F</name.id>
              <electorate>La Trobe</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="E0F" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WOOD</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">La Trobe</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:57</span>):  All Australians deserve to feel safe and secure in their communities. Unfortunately, Labor scrapped the $50 million in the budget for the Safer Communities Fund. This was to help high-risk infrastructure, especially places of worship. Labor members do not understand the benefits of the Safer Community Fund, because they simply don't care about these vulnerable communities.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Government members interjecting</span>—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="E0F" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr WOOD:</span>
                  </a>  Maybe the Labor members should listen to this. For example, the invisible member for Lalor didn't visit a Hindu temple in Tarneit when it was firebombed, gas-bombed, vandalised or robbed, or when a vehicle was actually driven into the temple. After all the attacks, still the member for Lalor didn't bother to support them in their fight. The member's office is only 11 kilometres away from the temple, yet she was nowhere to be seen, to help.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">My office was 75 kilometres away, yet I've been there three times. The coalition stands up for and supports multicultural communities in Labor-held seats when the lazy Labor members can't be bothered. This member's in a safe seat. Maybe the Labor Party needs to find a more active member—or, better still, an active Liberal member.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Everyone has the right to feel safe and to practice their faith in a safe and secure environment. It's time for Labor and the Treasurer to immediately restore that funding. It's a disgraceful decision. You should be ashamed of yourselves! <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <continue>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>79</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wood, Jason MP</name>
                <name.id>E0F</name.id>
                <electorate>La Trobe</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </continue>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Aged Care: Workforce</title>
          <page.no>79</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Aged Care: Workforce</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>79</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burns, Josh MP</name>
              <name.id>278522</name.id>
              <electorate>Macnamara</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="278522" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURNS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Macnamara</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">13:59</span>):  Well, I'm sure multicultural communities will be feeling safer after that speech!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">When you change the government, you change the country. There was not one thing that those opposite did while they were in government to lift the wages of working Australians—not one thing. And yet, on this side of the House, as soon as we got into government, we advocated for the rise in the minimum wage for our lowest-paid workers. They railed against it, and then we fought for the rise in aged-care workers' wages, because we know and we are proud of our aged-care workforce. These people turned up during the pandemic to look after our oldest Australians. On this side of the House, we stand up for hardworking Australians. On this side of the House, we stand up for the wages of hardworking Australians, unlike the mob opposite.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  In accordance with standing order 43, the time for members' statements has concluded.</span>
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                <page.no>79</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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        <page.no>80</page.no>
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          <page.no>80</page.no>
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              <page.no>80</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  <a href="R36" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:00</span>):  I inform the House that the member for Barton is on leave today. Questions relating to the Indigenous Australians portfolio will be answered by the member for Kingston.</span>
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        <page.no>80</page.no>
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          <title>Cost of Living</title>
          <page.no>80</page.no>
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              <page.no>80</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ley, Sussan Penelope MP</name>
              <name.id>00AMN</name.id>
              <electorate>Farrer</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
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                  <a href="00AMN" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms LEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Farrer</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Leader of the Opposition</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:00</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Climate Change and Energy. Before the election, the Prime Minister promised that, if he were elected, he would deliver a $275 cut to electricity bills, cheaper mortgages for Australians and higher wages. Given the budget now says power prices will rise by 56 per cent, a typical mortgage now costs $1,140 more a month, and wages are falling far behind inflation, when will the government fess up and apologise for misleading Australians?</span>
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              <page.no>80</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Bowen, Chris MP</name>
              <name.id>DZS</name.id>
              <electorate>McMahon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McMahon</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Climate Change and Energy</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:01</span>):  As loath as I am to make a partisan point at question time—I normally try and rise above such matters, as honourable members know—the honourable member opposite leaves me no choice. The honourable member talks about budgets and energy price rises, and I feel obliged to remind the honourable member of the evidence of the Treasury secretary before Senate estimates this week. He said:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">The increase in prices this financial year reflects increases in the default market offers published in May by the Australian Energy Regulator (AER) and associated market dynamics.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It says 'those published in May'—in late May, as it happens. They were meant to be published in early May, but there was an intervention by the member for Hume.</span>
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              <a href="231027" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Taylor interjecting</span>—</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Member for Hume, the Deputy Leader of the Opposition has asked her question.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">BOWEN:</span>  The member for Hume previously denied doing that. He said, 'No, I didn't.' Can I say that the government had—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! The Minister for Climate Change and Energy—</span>
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              <a href="00AMN" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Ms Ley interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The Deputy Leader of the Opposition, I'm trying to call the Manager of Opposition Business. When the House comes to order, I will hear his point of order.</span>
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                  <a href="L6B" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Fletcher:</span>
                  </a>  On relevance, in question time, you've previously directed a minister to be relevant to the question where the minister has strayed and begun talking about the record of the former government. The minister here, again, is up to it, and he should be directed back to this very tightly drafted question.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Honourable members interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! The question included commitments before the election, cuts to bills, rise in wages, mortgage rates. It was quite a broad question in the topics covered, but I'm going to invite the minister to return to the question. I give him the call.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr BOWEN:</span>
                  </a>  Thank you, Mr Speaker. I also recall that it mentioned the need to apologise. There are some people who need to apologise. The member for Hume originally denied hiding the price increase. This week, or last week, he did finally admit it. He told the National Press Club, 'I did as was recommended by the industry department and by the regulator, so it's what they wanted.' He has finally admitted doing it but he has thrown his former department under the bus, blaming the bureaucrats. I have little doubt as to why he did that. The member for Hume was minister for some time. On the day that the member for Hume became the energy minister, the price of energy in the national energy market was $92.63 per megawatt hour. On election day, his last day in office, it was $241 per megawatt hour. Talk about the need to apologise! Those opposite should apologise for 10 years of denial and delay and dysfunction. They should apologise for the dishonesty at the end as well.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Honourable members interjecting</span>—</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! There is far too much noise on my right, the minister for the environment and water and the minister for infrastructure.</span>
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                <page.no>80</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">Bowen, Chris MP</name>
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                <electorate>McMahon</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <page.no>80</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
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                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <name role="metadata">Bowen, Chris MP</name>
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                <electorate>McMahon</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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          <title>Cybercrime: Medibank</title>
          <page.no>80</page.no>
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              <page.no>80</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Neumann, Shayne Kenneth MP</name>
              <name.id>HVO</name.id>
              <electorate>Blair</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Blair</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:04</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Home Affairs and Minister for Cyber Security. How is the government responding to the Medibank data being leaked?</span>
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              <page.no>81</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">O'Neil, Clare Ellen MP</name>
              <name.id>140590</name.id>
              <electorate>Hotham</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="140590" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms O'NEIL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hotham</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Home Affairs and Minister for Cyber Security</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:04</span>):  I thank the member for Blair for his question. Yesterday I indicated to the parliament that the consequences of the Medibank hack were likely to get worse, and today those fears have been realised. I want to say, particularly to the women whose private health information has been compromised overnight, as the Minister for Cyber Security but, more importantly, as a woman this should not have happened. I know this is a really difficult time. I want you to know that as a parliament and as a government we stand with you. You are entitled to keep your health information private. What has occurred here is morally reprehensible and criminal.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to provide some information to the parliament and to Australians this afternoon about victim support. Cyberhacks each have their own character, and the concerns and issues that citizens will face even in this one instance have many variations. Some will need technical questions answered, some will be victims of crime, some will need health support, and much more vulnerable citizens who are affected here are going to require intensive case management.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">As well as the focus on enforcement and prevention of harm, much of the work of the National Coordination Mechanism over recent weeks has been stepping out how this situation may unfold and, for different communities or victims, what support and services will need to be provided. Our focus as a parliament is on Medicare stepping up on this, but of course there are requirements here too for government. We are very focused on how to make this easy and simple to access for citizens who are affected. I don't want Australians to have to circulate 14 government departments or areas of Medibank in order to get the support that they deserve and need.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I spoke with the Medibank CEO twice today with Minister Shorten and Minister Butler, and I made abundantly clear the expectations of the Australian community on what this company owes to its customers given what has transpired here. They need to make sure that people who need help are able to get it. Medibank is providing a clean, one-stop shop which will help refer citizens to support, whether that support is being provided by Medibank itself, by the state and federal government, or by the state or federal police force. It is important that that support is scalable. I received assurance from Medibank today that, if a large data dump occurs, they are fully ready to provide services when and if they are needed to Australians who need them. We're supporting that work, including through Services Australia, who, through their minister, are making their staff available to sit with the Medibank staff in this.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Finally, in particular with the Deputy Prime Minister and the Attorney-General, I want to pay tribute to the work of the Australian Federal Police and the Australian Signals Directorate. I want the scumbags behind this attack to know that the smartest and toughest people in this country are coming after you.</span>
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        </answer>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cybercrime: Medibank, Crimes Legislation Amendment (Ransomware Action Plan) Bill 2022</title>
          <page.no>81</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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            <p>
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Cybercrime: Medibank</span>
              </p>
            </p>
            <a href="r6910" type="Bill">
              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Crimes Legislation Amendment (Ransomware Action Plan) Bill 2022</span>
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            </a>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>81</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Andrews, Karen MP</name>
              <name.id>230886</name.id>
              <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="230886" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mrs ANDREWS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McPherson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:07</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Home Affairs. As the Medibank crisis deepens and millions of Australians' personal health data is at risk of exposure, can the minister inform the House of any specific actions taken, as opposed to just expressing sympathy to crack down on cybercriminals? Why has the minister not taken up the coalition's ransomware bill introduced into parliament over a month ago, which would establish tougher penalties for those who engage in cybercrime?</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>81</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">O'Neil, Clare Ellen MP</name>
              <name.id>140590</name.id>
              <electorate>Hotham</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="140590" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms O'NEIL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hotham</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Home Affairs and Minister for Cyber Security</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:08</span>):  Let me make a few points. It is so regrettable that, at a moment like this, the opposition wants to politicise the pain and suffering of Australians. I am genuinely shocked. I have been a member of parliament for nine years, and usually in moments like this we have a rare time to come together as a parliament to help people. I just cannot believe that people who are suffering, who have had personal information about them revealed—you are trying to politicise this. I'm genuinely shocked. Let me say a few things—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Honourable members interjecting</span>—</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  There is far too much noise. The member for McPherson has asked her question and was heard in silence out of the respect she deserves. I'm going to give the call to the Minister for Home Affairs and Minister for Cyber Security. I'd like the House to listen to what the minister is saying.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="140590" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms O'NEIL:</span>
                  </a>  As I say, it's greatly regrettable that the opposition have decided to politicise this, but let me go with them. I want to say this to the opposition: this is an incredibly embarrassing question from someone who was the minister for cybersecurity five months ago. This problem did not begin on 22 May. I would say to those opposite, as I have said repeatedly, that we are about five years behind where we need to be on cybersecurity. Do you know who ministers were over the previous five years? It was the Minister for Home Affairs and it was the person who sits in the opposition leader's chair. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We would like to collaborate with those opposite to fix what is an urgent national problem that is in part their creation. I would invite them to come together with us to work as a team. If you would like to ask further questions on this matter, I would welcome them because we know quite a bit about the record of the previous Minister for Home Affairs, her treatment of public servants on election day. That demonstrated her commitment to national security issues in this country. We take a different approach. We are trying to fight for our citizens and we are trying to improve this for our country. We invite those opposite to come and join us whenever they're ready to stop shamelessly politicising every issue in this parliament, which they did relentlessly for almost a decade. And where did that get us? </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Honourable members interjectin</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">g</span>—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! When the House comes to order, I'll hear from the member for Macnamara. </span>
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                <page.no>81</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <first.speech />
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>81</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">O'Neil, Clare Ellen MP</name>
                <name.id>140590</name.id>
                <electorate>Hotham</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>82</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>National Anti-Corruption Commission</title>
          <page.no>82</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">National Anti-Corruption Commission</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>82</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burns, Josh MP</name>
              <name.id>278522</name.id>
              <electorate>Macnamara</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="278522" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr BURNS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Macnamara</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:11</span>):  My question is to the Attorney-General. Today a joint select committee tabled a unanimous report recommending the government's bill to establish a national anticorruption commission be passed. How soon can Australians expect this important commission to be up and running? </span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>82</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dreyfus, Mark MP</name>
              <name.id>HWG</name.id>
              <electorate>Isaacs</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWG" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr DREYFUS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Isaacs</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Attorney-General and Cabinet </span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Secretary</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:11</span>):  I thank the member for Macnamara for his question. On 28 September 2022 I introduced a bill to establish a powerful, transparent and independent national anticorruption commission. On the same day a joint select committee was established to inquire into the bill. The committee called for submissions addressing the provisions of the bill and held four days of public hearings. Today, Dr Helen Haines, the member for Indi and the deputy chair of the committee, tabled its report in the House. I thank her and the chair, Senator Linda White, and all of the members of the committee for their work on this report. I'm delighted that the committee, made up of government, opposition and crossbench members of both Houses, has delivered a unanimous report today. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is the parliament at its finest, with members and senators coming together to find common ground and to find a constructive way forward. In doing so, they have respected the mandate given by the Australian people on 21 May to the Albanese government to establish a powerful, transparent and independent national anticorruption commission. This is the biggest single integrity reform this parliament has seen for decades. It is a key pillar in this government's plan to restore integrity, honesty and accountability to government. We will deliver on this key election commitment. Unlike the former government, which pledged to deliver a national anticorruption commission in December 2018 and never delivered on that commitment, we are going to get this done. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The government will now carefully consider this report and its recommendations ahead of the resumption of debate on the NACC Bill in the next session of parliament. We are determined to pass this legislation by year's end and have the commission up and running by mid-2023. I call on all members of both the houses to engage constructively as this legislation works its way through the parliament. Multipartisan support is the best way to ensure the long-term success of his body. Together we can deliver to the Australian people the highest standard of integrity that they called for at the last election and get this done. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="00AMN" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Ley:</span>
                  </a>  Table your share portfolio!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The Deputy Leader of the Opposition will cease those interjections. </span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>82</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Ley, Sussan Penelope MP</name>
                <name.id>00AMN</name.id>
                <electorate>Farrer</electorate>
                <party>LP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>82</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
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            <talk.text>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing Affordability</title>
          <page.no>82</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Housing Affordability</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>82</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chandler-Mather, Max MP</name>
              <name.id>300121</name.id>
              <electorate>Griffith</electorate>
              <party>AG</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300121" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr CHANDLER-MATHER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Griffith</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:14</span>):  My question is to the Treasurer on the housing affordability crisis. Treasurer, using the standard definition of affordable housing as used by the Victorian government where a person on a low income pays no more than 30 per cent of their income on rent or other housing costs, what proportion of the government's promised one million homes will be affordable, or will the vast majority of these homes be unaffordable homes built by private property developers? </span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>82</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chalmers, Jim MP</name>
              <name.id>37998</name.id>
              <electorate>Rankin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="37998" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Dr CHALMERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Rankin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Treasurer</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:14</span>):  I appreciate the question from the member for Griffith about the government's housing accord. The government's intention when it comes to the housing accord is to recognise extremely low vacancy rates and extremely high rents and to try to do something about it so that more people can live closer to where the jobs and opportunities are. What we've done, as the member is aware, is brought together state and territory governments, local governments, the building industry, the super sector and other institutional investors to sign up to a target of affordable homes to be built—one million from 2024 to 2029. We hope that, by bringing people together and by providing an element of government co-investment—we can subsidise the rental returns of the builders, the community housing providers and the super funds—we take something that is not appealing enough to investors and make it a bit more appealing and, most importantly of all, we build more housing stock.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">As the member is aware—and I've heard the member talk about this on a number of occasions—we do have a problem in this country when it comes to the supply of affordable rental properties. We are trying to do something about it. We do see a leadership role for the Commonwealth in dealing with the problem that has been with us for too long. That is what the housing accord is all about—building more affordable properties—and that's what we intend to do.</span>
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      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Workplace Relations</title>
          <page.no>83</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Workplace Relations</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>83</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burnell, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>300129</name.id>
              <electorate>Spence</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300129" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr BURNELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Spence</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:16</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations. Earlier today this House passed the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Bill. How will the bill help get wages moving? What is the government's response to those who are trying to keep wages low?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>83</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
              <name.id>DYW</name.id>
              <electorate>Watson</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DYW" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr BURKE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employ</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">ment and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:16</span>):  I thank the member for Spence for the question. He has dedicated his life to secure jobs and better pay.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Today the House made a few decisions. Today the House made a decision to get wages moving. Today the House made a decision to close the gender pay gap. Today the House made a decision to improve job security. In doing those things we also had another vote. There was an attempt for the House to make a different decision. As the debate went back and forth in the House, members often opened by saying that everyone wants to get wages moving. We kept hearing from people on each side of the debate that they want to give people pay rises, yet there are two tests. Are you willing to do anything about it? We ended up with a vote that was designed to do the exact opposite.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In the lead-up to the last election Senator Cash put out a statement saying that there would be no changes to the better off overall test full stop. I presumed that those opposite had abandoned their previous position from the bill they brought in here in 2020, which was about pay cuts. The bill was to redo the better off overall test by getting rid of it altogether for two years. Yet today an amendment moved by none other than the Leader of the Opposition called on us to make 'changes to enterprise bargaining as outlined in the former coalition government's legislation introduced in 2020'. So at the same time that this parliament was debating the need to get wages moving, with people facing higher inflation, those opposite took to a vote an amendment to bring back the 2020 legislation.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">What would it mean if back then you suspended the better off overall test? It would mean that a part-time level 2 hospitality worker aged over 21 would have seen their hourly New Year's Day rate slashed from $46 to $20. Instead of earning $375 they would have earnt $166. A part-time level 3 retail worker aged over 21 would have seen their hourly Boxing Day rate slashed from $50 to $22. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">At the exact time people are talking about cost-of-living pressures we had a government determined to get wages moving and an opposition that decided that keeping wages deliberately low as a design feature wasn't enough—they actually put back on the table a desire to suspend the better off overall test altogether and deliver wage cuts. If you want to get wages moving, it's the government in this House that's on your side. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Budget</title>
          <page.no>83</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Budget</span>
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        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>83</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">O'Brien, Ted MP</name>
              <name.id>138932</name.id>
              <electorate>Fairfax</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="138932" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr TED O'BRIEN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fairfax</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:19</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Climate Change and Energy. The budget projects that, after two years of Labor's energy policies, gas prices will be up by 44 per cent. Since the budget, government ministers have spoken about price caps and no price caps, direct assistance and no direct assistance, extra supply and limited supply, and taxes on companies and no extra company taxes. Does the minister have any idea what he is doing or is this just, yet again, Labor proving it doesn't know how to manage money and doesn't know how to manage the economy?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Opposition members interjecting</span>—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! Members on my right, the member for Fairfax was heard in silence. And I'm asking the House. Members on my right! I give the call to the Minister for Climate Change and Energy.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>83</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>83</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Bowen, Chris MP</name>
              <name.id>DZS</name.id>
              <electorate>McMahon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DZS" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr BOWEN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McMahon</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Climate Change and Energy</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:20</span>):  I'm trying to take a statesmanlike tone over here, but it's rather hard when you hear questions like that—questions from an opposition about gas prices and how much they are going up, when, on the day the member for Hume became the minister for energy, gas was $9.40 a gigajoule and at the time of the election it was $34.75—a 270 per cent increase. That's pretty good! Some would say that's fantastic. Maybe the gas companies would say that's fantastic, but Australian consumers would not. The honourable member refers to work the government is doing to make sure gas and energy price rises do not flow through to industries and Australian businesses. I thank him for bringing that to the attention of the House, and that work will continue.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Budget</title>
          <page.no>83</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Budget</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>83</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Fernando, Cassandra MP</name>
              <name.id>299964</name.id>
              <electorate>Holt</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="299964" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms FERNANDO</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Holt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:21</span>):  My question is to the Treasurer. How do the budget and the Albanese Labor government's economic policies help Australians manage the cost of living without adding to inflation?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>84</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chalmers, Jim MP</name>
              <name.id>37998</name.id>
              <electorate>Rankin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="37998" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Dr CHALMERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Rankin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Treasurer</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:22</span>):  I thank the member for Holt for her question and also for all of the work that she has done on behalf of the ordinary working people of this country before she came here and since she arrived here. I pay tribute to her and to her contribution.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Australians are under pressure from the rising costs of living, and governments need to strike the right balance in providing responsible cost-of-living relief without adding to inflation in our economy. This is the point that the Deputy Governor of the Reserve Bank was making earlier this afternoon at estimates when she described our approach as sensible and appropriate to the times that we confront. Because of this challenge, the budget provided cost-of-living relief in a responsible and targeted way: $7½ billion across cheaper early childhood education, cheaper medicine and the expansion of paid parental leave, as well as a whole range of other measures around housing. But perhaps most important of all is getting wages moving again in our economy. That is, as I said yesterday, a deliberate design feature of our economic policy. That's why, in the budget, there were policies to enable people to train for higher wage opportunities; there was cheaper child care so that parents can work more and earn more if they want to; and there were investments in industries where the secure well-paid jobs of the future will come from. And also, of course—and we saw this today with the passage through the House of the minister for industrial relations' legislation—we have put our backs into making sure that, across all those areas I nominated in the budget as well as in industrial relations, we are getting wages moving again in this country.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">For too long in Australia, wages growth has been stagnant. For too long wages growth has been too low. For too long in this country, ordinary working people who make the biggest contribution to our national prosperity have not been getting the reward they deserve for their efforts. For too long in this country and in this economy, ordinary working people have been copping it in the neck at the same time as profits have been rising. So what we want to see in this country is everybody getting just reward for their efforts so that, when we grow our economy, Australian working people get a slice of the action. That's what the legislation that passed through here this morning was all about, that's what the budget was all about and that's what this government is all about.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Climate Change</title>
          <page.no>84</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Climate Change</span>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>84</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
              <name.id>L6B</name.id>
              <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="L6B" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr FLETCHER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bradfield</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Manager of Opposition Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:25</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Climate Change and Energy. At a time when Australia urgently needs more gas supply, why has the government funded $9.8 million over four years to activists who oppose and stop new gas projects?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>84</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Bowen, Chris MP</name>
              <name.id>DZS</name.id>
              <electorate>McMahon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DZS" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr BOWEN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McMahon</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles"> Climate Change and Energy</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:25</span>):  We have not.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Paid Parental Leave</title>
          <page.no>84</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Paid Parental Leave</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>84</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Georganas, Steve MP</name>
              <name.id>DZY</name.id>
              <electorate>Adelaide</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr GEORGANAS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Adelaide</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:25</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Social Services. How will the Albanese Labor government's paid parental leave changes provide cost-of-living support for new families? How will the policy changes help Australian families?</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>84</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Rishworth, Amanda Louise MP</name>
              <name.id>HWA</name.id>
              <electorate>Kingston</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms RISHWORTH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kingston</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Social Services</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:25</span>):  I'd like to thank the member for Adelaide for his question, as a fierce advocate for families in his electorate. I know he has welcomed the paid parental leave changes. The Albanese government has made cost-of-living relief a priority in this recent budget. It focuses on keeping money in the pockets of Australians. Our budget is delivering cheaper medicines, cheaper child care and of course our plan to get wages moving again. But families are front and centre of this budget—in particular, helping them ease the burden of juggling care and work. That's why we are investing in an expanded paid parental leave system that will be boosted to six months by 2026. This will increase support available to families by almost $5,000 and will help take some of the pressure off households' budgets, and our measures will encourage the sharing of care responsibilities between both parents.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Paid parental leave that encourages sharing of care was one of the most prominent calls at our most recent Jobs and Skills Summit. We know that shared caring responsibilities promotes gender equality in this country. But we also know that this helps many dads who want to take time off work following the birth or adoption of a child. I recently met with Alex Edgar at West Beach Kindergarten, who talked about how important our paid parental leave changes will be for dads and mums. He said: 'Recently I changed employer because my wife is pregnant. We're having a third child and I wanted to access gender-neutral paid parental leave through my employer. It's very impressive that the government has made these changes and listened to Australian dads, who overwhelmingly want to be able to take leave.'</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The current arrangements for shared care of children isn't working. We know that only half of dads are accessing dad and partner pay. That is why we're reforming the paid parental leave system so there is greater uptake of shared care of children between mums and dads, making it easier for dads to take paid parental leave by removing the current barriers and making it more flexible around when and how parents take leave. We are making a real difference to advance the way paid parental leave works for families. This is in stark contrast to those opposite, who when in government wanted to take the scheme back in time.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  I call the Manager of Opposition Business.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="L6B" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Fletcher:</span>  Mr Speaker, on relevance: you have directed a minister back to the question previously when they've strayed. The minister was doing quite well. She managed to stay on the government's own record, but when we got to 30 seconds to go she just couldn't resist. She should be directed back to—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Thank you for the point. The question was about what the government has done to provide cost-of-living support to families, and I invite the minister to conclude her answer.</span>
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                  <a href="HWA" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms RISHWORTH:</span>
                  </a>  What we're not doing is limiting parents in the leave they can take by saying, 'You only get to choose your employer leave or your government leave,' because that, as the Human Rights Commission said, was a regressive measure that was inconsistent with Australia's human rights obligations. We will not do that, even if those on the other side decide to.</span>
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                <page.no>85</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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                <page.no>85</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Fletcher, Paul MP</name>
                <name.id>L6B</name.id>
                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
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                <first.speech />
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                <page.no>85</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <first.speech />
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                <page.no>85</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Rishworth, Amanda Louise MP</name>
                <name.id>HWA</name.id>
                <electorate>Kingston</electorate>
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          <title>Small Business</title>
          <page.no>85</page.no>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>85</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Archer, Bridget MP</name>
              <name.id>282237</name.id>
              <electorate>Bass</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="282237" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mrs ARCHER</span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech" style="font-weight:bold;"> (</span>
                  <span class="HPS-Electorate">Bass</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech" style="font-weight:bold;">) (</span>
                  <span class="HPS-Time">14:29</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech" style="font-weight:bold;">):</span>  My question is to the Minister for Small Business. Have any small business groups met with the minister to raise concerns about the government's industrial relations bill?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>85</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Collins, Julie Maree MP</name>
              <name.id>HWM</name.id>
              <electorate>Franklin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWM" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms COLLINS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Franklin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Housing, Minister for Homelessness and Minister for Small Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:29</span>):  I thank the member for Bass for her question. I do meet with small businesses and small business representatives on a regular basis and discuss a range of matters, as we always do, because what we actually want to do is to work with people and bring people together, and that's what we've been doing.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>85</page.no>
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>85</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Thwaites, Kate MP</name>
              <name.id>282212</name.id>
              <electorate>Jagajaga</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="282212" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms THWAITES</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Jagajaga</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:30</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Housing and the Minister for Homelessness. How will the Albanese Labor government's ambitious housing reform agenda in the budget address cost-of-living pressures? </span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>85</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Collins, Julie Maree MP</name>
              <name.id>HWM</name.id>
              <electorate>Franklin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWM" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms COLLINS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Franklin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Housing, Minister for Homelessness and Minister for Small Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:30</span>):  I thank the member for Jagajaga for her question. I know that she, like many people on this side of the House, are concerned that too many Australians don't have a safe, affordable place to call home. Indeed, we are committed to addressing cost-of-living pressures with our five-point plan in the budget, and one of those, of course, is around our ambitious housing reform.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We know that far too many Australians are finding it difficult to rent a property, and far too many Australians are finding it difficult to purchase their own property. That's why we are acting immediately. That's why we're unlocking up to $575 million from our National Housing Infrastructure Facility. These funds will be available before Christmas for more social and affordable homes as quickly as we can get them off the ground. Of course, as part of our budget we struck the new National Housing Accord between the three tiers of government, investors, industry and social housing providers. And, in estimates yesterday, Treasury officials confirmed that our ambition to build one million well-located homes from 2024 is more than it would substantially have been without our policy. So it's actually important that we have done this.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is very, very important that we have done this, as well as our $10 billion Housing Australia Future Fund, which will provide 30,000 social and affordable homes across the country. Our National Housing Supply and Affordability Council will provide advice on the National Housing Accord and also on the returns from the Housing Australia Future Fund. Our National Housing and Homelessness Plan will set out concrete actions to help achieve the accord's goals. The Regional First Home Buyer Guarantee is already also helping hundreds of Australians in regional Australia into their first home. We brought this forward by three months. Indeed, in less than six weeks we have had 686 families in regional Australia save thousands of dollars by accessing this Regional First Home Buyer Guarantee. Both the guarantee and our Help to Buy program will deliver savings on housing costs, and these programs are targeted to those most in need.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We did hear in Senate estimates yesterday, when they were talking about housing affordability and social housing, a senator from the opposition make some disparaging comments about people in social housing and social housing generally. I'd say to Australians who are growing up in social housing or who are on a social housing waiting list: we do care. We understand that Australians, all Australians, need secure and affordable housing. That is why we have such an ambitious housing agenda. We're getting on with it, and we'll continue to work with our state and territory colleagues, with local governments, with investors and with the sector to deliver.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Medicare</title>
          <page.no>85</page.no>
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          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>85</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Sharkie, Rebekha MP</name>
              <name.id>265980</name.id>
              <electorate>Mayo</electorate>
              <party>CA</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="265980" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms SHAR</span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">KIE</span> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mayo</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:33</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Health and Aged Care. Last week I met with Darren and Vicky, pensioners from my electorate. Vicki has a lung disease but cancelled her last medical appointment because she couldn't afford it. Every day I'm hearing from constituents who can no longer access a doctor as medical practices are ceasing bulk billing in Mayo, leaving many constituents sick and untreated. What is the government doing about this crisis?</span>
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          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>86</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Butler, Mark Christopher MP</name>
              <name.id>HWK</name.id>
              <electorate>Hindmarsh</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWK" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr BUTLER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hindmarsh</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Hea</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">lth and Aged Care and Deputy Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:34</span>):  I thank the member for Mayo for her question. I know how deeply concerned she is about the state of general practice—in particular, in her electorate. I've talked to her about that, and I appreciate the way she's engaging with the government on health policy as well as policy more broadly.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I share the member's concerns not just in relation to our state of South Australia but in relation to the nation more broadly. I've said that I think general practice is in the worst shape it's been in the almost 40-year history of Medicare. All of the trends in general practice are bad. The member talks about bulk-billing rates. The former government used to come to this dispatch box regularly and pretend they were at record levels, were going terrifically well, when we know the reality could not be more different. We know that bulk-billing rates have been dropping. I suspect every member of this—</span>
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              <a href="00AMN" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Ms Ley interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr BUTLER:</span>
                  </a>  Interjections from the former minister for health are ironic, to say the least. I suspect every member of this House is talking to GPs and patients who say that bulk-billing rates are plummeting in their area, GPs who tell them how distressed they are at having to change their bulk-billing policies. We know that about one in three Australians pay a gap fee in this country, and those gap fees have skyrocketed. Now, for the first time in the history of Medicare, the average gap fee for a standard GP consult is more than the Medicare rebate itself. Patients are paying more out of their own pockets than Medicare contributes to a standard GP consult.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's not just bulk-billing rates and gap fees. We know there's a workforce crisis in general practice, with fewer and fewer medical graduates choosing to go into general practice. It's no mystery why, and it's no mystery who in this country bears more responsibility than anyone else for the parlous state of general practice: it's the now Leader of the Opposition, who tried to ram through a tax that would make every Australian pay a fee for every consult in general practice and, when he couldn't do that, froze the Medicare rebate for six long years. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="265980" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Sharkie:</span>
                  </a>  A point of order: I asked the government what they are doing to address this crisis.</span>
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                  </a>  The point of order was on relevance, and I draw the minister back to the question.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr BUTLER:</span>
                  </a>  I'm not going to pretend that it's going to be a quick or an easy job to fix up nine long years of cuts and neglect. But in our first budget, instead of a GP tax and raising the cost of medicines, we've already invested $160 million in a rural general practice package. We've invested more than $220 million to strengthen general practice grants, which we'll be rolling out over the coming weeks and months. Only last week, again, I met with the Strengthening Medicare Taskforce to advise the government on our investment of $250 million each and every year to strengthen Medicare. Member for Mayo, rest assured that this government has no higher priority than rebuilding general practice.</span>
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          <page.no>86</page.no>
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              <page.no>86</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Scrymgour, Marion MP</name>
              <name.id>F2S</name.id>
              <electorate>Lingiari</electorate>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lingiari</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:37</span>):  My question is to the Deputy Prime Minister. What was the former coalition's legacy in defence, and what is the Albanese Labor government's plan to fix this? </span>
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              <page.no>86</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Marles, Richard Donald MP</name>
              <name.id>HWQ</name.id>
              <electorate>Corio</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr MARLES</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Corio</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defence</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:37</span>):  I thank the member for her question. The defence legacy of the 10 years of the former coalition government is one of manifest failure. It started with them, with six—seven, really—defence ministers in the course of nine years. They had Johnston, Andrews, Payne, Payne-Pyne, Pyne, Reynolds—to be honest, I think I got that wrong on Tuesday, but this just gets so confusing—and then Dutton. I could go through the whole 24—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The Deputy Prime Minister will refer to members by their correct titles.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr MARLES:</span>
                  </a>  I could go through the whole 24 who served across the defence portfolio, but to do so would run against the time limit for answering questions. Suffice it to say that we saw everyone from Ciobo to Chester, from Andrew Gee to Andrew Hastie.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! The Deputy Prime Minister will resume his seat. The Manager of Opposition Business will resume his seat. Less than 20 seconds ago I asked the minister—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">A government member interjecting</span>—</span>
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  I have no responsibility for former ministers. I ask for current members to be acknowledged by their correct titles.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr MARLES:</span>
                  </a>  Sorry, Mr Speaker. The seat names spoiled my alliteration! I will continue. It's little wonder that what resulted from all of this was complete chaos. It is hard to think of how the coalition could have treated defence with more contempt. They regarded ministerial jobs in the defence portfolio as like a ride at the show; literally everybody got a go! But the chaos affected real people.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Yesterday, one member of the not-so-exclusive Liberal-former-defence-ministers club, Senator Reynolds, started talking about valleys of death. To be clear: those opposite are experts in valleys of death after program after program ground to a halt. We saw the Hunter class frigates run four years over time; the offshore patrol vessels run a year over time; and the Cape class vessels run another year over time.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese Labor government is absolutely committed to managing defence procurement properly. We get that defence projects are large and complex, and that sometimes not everything goes right, which is why we're going to have objective criteria—</span>
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              <a href="281826" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Thompson interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Herbert is warned.</span>
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                  <a href="HWQ" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr MARLES:</span>
                  </a>  for defence programs to end up on the Projects of Interest list and the Projects of Concern list. And when they do—</span>
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              <a href="265967" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Wallace interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Fisher is warned.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr MARLES:</span>
                  </a>  ministers are going to receive monthly reports so that those ministers can put those projects back on track. And we are going to have an independent project office within the Department of Defence. In short, we're going to manage defence procurement properly so that we have value for money for Australian taxpayers. That's because it's not just how much you spend on defence it is the quality of that spend which will build the capabilities for this country and which will keep Australians safe.</span>
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          <title>Victoria: Infrastructure</title>
          <page.no>87</page.no>
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              <page.no>87</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Birrell, Sam MP</name>
              <name.id>288713</name.id>
              <electorate>Nicholls</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Nicholls</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Nationals Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:41</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government. I refer to the $9.3 billion in delayed or cancelled infrastructure funding in the budget, including $208 million already committed by the coalition to stage 1 of the Goulburn Valley Highway bypass at Shepparton. Will the government guarantee funding for stage 1 of the Shepparton bypass, or has Labor simply abandoned regional Victoria?</span>
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              <page.no>87</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">King, Catherine Fiona MP</name>
              <name.id>00AMR</name.id>
              <electorate>Ballarat</electorate>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms CATHERINE KING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Ball</span><span class="HPS-Electorate">arat</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:41</span>):  Thank you very much for your question. I know that the member means well in asking that question.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This government has inherited an absolute mess when it comes to the infrastructure investment pipeline. This government is investing $123 billion in the infrastructure investment pipeline over the next 10 years and increasing funding to regional communities by over $4 billion over the next 10 years. I'm very proud of that investment.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But what we inherited from the previous government, and the mess that I had to clean up, are projects that are undercooked, underfunded and simply under-deliverable. I can give example after example of projects which are billions of dollars underfunded and where there was no information provided to the state governments before the previous government decided to go out and announce funding.</span>
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The minister will pause, one minute in, and I will hear from the Leader of the Nationals and ask him to state his point of order.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Littleproud:</span>
                  </a>  It's on relevance, Mr Speaker. The question was very tight, about a specific project: the Shepparton bypass and $208 million. There has been a big prelude here, but it was very tight and the minister needs to come back to the question.</span>
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  I'll hear from the Leader of the House.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Burke:</span>
                  </a>  On the point of order: I thought the question finished with a full reference to regional Victoria?</span>
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The question did mention the bypass—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Honourable members interjecting</span>—</span>
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! I'm trying to rule on the Leader of the Nationals' point of order. The minister has the call.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms CATHERINE KING:</span>
                  </a>  I was actually asked about projects under the infrastructure investment pipeline, including projects in regional Victoria to which I am referring. And it was an absolute mess. The money for the Shepparton bypass remains in the budget and we are fully committed to that project. It remains in the budget.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But this is typical of what the previous government did: all announcement and not able to deliver the projects. Completely underfunded, undercooked and under-deliverable, because the previous government was more interested in going out and getting an announcement in the papers and putting the press release out. You can't drive on a press release and you can't actually build a road if you don't have enough money for it!</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">That is the problem: the legacy that you have left is of undercooked, underfunded and under-deliverable projects because you mismanaged the infrastructure investment pipeline.</span>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <electorate>Maranoa</electorate>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
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                <electorate>Watson</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <name role="metadata">King, Catherine Fiona MP</name>
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                <electorate>Ballarat</electorate>
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          <title>Health Care</title>
          <page.no>88</page.no>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>88</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Mulino, Daniel MP</name>
              <name.id>132880</name.id>
              <electorate>Fraser</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
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                  <a href="132880" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Dr MULINO</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fraser</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:44</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Health and Aged Care. How is the Albanese Labor government changing lives by making medicines cheaper for millions of Australians?</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>88</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Butler, Mark Christopher MP</name>
              <name.id>HWK</name.id>
              <electorate>Hindmarsh</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWK" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr BUTLER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hindmarsh</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Health and Aged Care and Deputy Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:44</span>):  Thank you to the member for Fraser for his question. I know how hard he campaigned at the last election on strengthening Medicare and delivering cheaper medicines. At the budget last month, our government delivered on that promise—cheaper medicines.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Even before that, just a few months ago back in July, the safety net threshold for millions of pensioners and concession cardholders in Australia was slashed by 25 per cent, meaning that, across the year, those millions of Australians know that they will pay no more than $4.70 per week for all of their medicine needs. In September, the price of more than 2,000 different brands of medicines was also cut, delivering around $130 million in cash to hardworking Australian patients. And last month, tens of thousands of self-funded retirees gained access for the first time to seniors health cards, which will see their medicine bills plummet as well. But there is still more to come. On 1 January, this government will deliver the biggest cut to the price of medicines in the 75-year history of the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, bringing the maximum co-payment for general patients down from $42.50 to just $30—putting around $200 million, each and every year, back into the pockets of hardworking general patients.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is not just good for their hip pocket at a time of huge pressure on household budgets, it's also good for their health. That's what hundreds of thousands of asthma and other chronic lung disease sufferers are going to experience on 1 January. We've already been hearing from a number of them, who will see a big cut to the price of their inhalers like Symbicort and Seretide.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Bella, who's just 23, wrote to us and said: 'As a newlywed fresh out of uni, it's a strange thing having to pick between breathing properly and having savings in the bank. A price drop in Symbicort will make all the difference to my life as well as the lives of countless other Australians.' Lindsay, who's a mum from Saint Mary's in New South Wales, wrote to us and said: 'This is great news. I use Seretide daily and have been struggling with the cost. I was reducing my dose to make it last longer, but this will help me a lot financially.' And Karen from Victoria said: 'I often pay around $200 a month for all of my asthma medication. This reduction in the price of Symbicort will be life changing.' Our delivery on our promise to deliver responsible cost-of-living relief to Australians is making a real difference.</span>
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          <title>Climate Change</title>
          <page.no>88</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>88</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Steggall, Zali MP</name>
              <name.id>175696</name.id>
              <electorate>Warringah</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms STEGGALL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Warringah</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:47</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. COP27 is currently bringing together world leaders to address climate change. The planet has already warmed by 1.2 degrees, with escalating climate-induced disasters and costs crippling communities, yet current pledges—including your government's inadequate 43 per cent by 2030—have us on track for three degrees of warming. Will your government stop making the problem worse by funding and approving further fossil fuel projects?</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>88</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <a href="R36" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">ALBANESE</span> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:48</span>):  I thank the member for her question and for her genuine engagement on the issue of climate change since she has arrived in this parliament as the member for Warringah.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In the preamble to her question, the member pointed out what was happening at COP27 and spoke about the global effort, because, indeed, climate change does require a global effort. One of the things that has occurred already at COP27 is the previous chair of COP—the person who chaired the Glasgow conference and was the Minister for the Conference of the Parties, as part of the UK Conservative government—has welcomed Australia back as part of the global effort, as have all of the delegates at NATO, as did Prime Minister Johnson, Prime Minister Truss, President Biden, Prime Minister Kishida, Prime Minister Modi.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The fact is that Australia has been welcomed back due to the fact that we changed, as one of our first acts, our nationally determined contribution to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. We did that with the commitment that we took to the election of 43 per cent reduction by 2030 as part of our commitment to have a pathway to net zero by 2050.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia has fallen behind from where it should be because we've had a decade of denial, a decade of delay. We didn't have any climate policy. And when the former government reluctantly adopted a target—not really, because they weren't prepared to legislate it—of net zero by 2050, there was no policy to go with it.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This government understands that we need to deal with energy policy, transport policy and housing policy. We need to make homes more efficient, we need to change the make-up of our transport network in accordance with what's happening around the world, and we need to move to the cheapest and cleanest form of new energy, which is renewables. We need to do that in partnership with the rest of the world, and I look forward in coming days to meeting with global leaders and talking about how we cooperate. I know in the lead-up to the G20, when I've spoken with people like Prime Minister Sunak of the UK, and in the past few days with the leaders of Vietnam, Thailand and other nations in our region, the first thing that they raised was climate change. I am optimistic that the world can move. I want Australia to be a part of that, and my government's commitment is to do just that.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Infrastructure: Regional Australia</title>
          <page.no>89</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Infrastructure: Regional Australia</span>
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        <question>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>89</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Repacholi, Dan MP</name>
              <name.id>298840</name.id>
              <electorate>Hunter</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr REPACHOLI</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hunter</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:51</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government. How will last month's budget deliver much-needed investment in infrastructure for regional and remote communities across the country?</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
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                  <a href="00AMR" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms CATHERINE KING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Ballarat</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:51</span>):  I thank the member for Hunter for his question and congratulate him on his incredible advocacy for his community. Indeed, I'm looking forward to visiting the member's electorate next week and hearing firsthand how this government's investment in important projects like the Muswellbrook bypass and Mandalong Road will affect his community. In particular, I'm pleased with the Coulsons Creek Road. I know these repairs are something that the member for New England feels very dearly about. It's another important project, with the route between Willow Tree and Merriwa Creek currently closed and completely impassable. The project has been entirely funded by the Albanese Labor government—it's not something the previous government funded. It's an important local freight road, and will see locals saving hours every week once complete.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm also looking forward to visiting the member for Robertson's electorate, where the government has funded Avoca Drive and $40 million towards local roads along the Central Coast. Last week I was very lucky to spend time with the member for Lingiari, visiting communities that she represents in Alice Springs and across Central Australia. It was a privilege to spend time with locals at Yuendumu, a remote Indigenous community some 300 kilometres from Alice. As we flew in, we saw firsthand how important good road connections are to such a remote community. Locals rely on roads for food, health, education and access to recreation available in Alice, and that's why our budget delivers an extra $350 million of additional funding to continue upgrading to the Tanami Road—a really important road—as well as funding the Central Arnhem Road, bringing the total commitment to the Northern Territory to over $740 million.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">As we travelled down the most recently completed section of the road—and I'd encourage anyone, if they get the opportunity, to do it because it is just terrific—we saw the dirt on one side and the freshly laid tarmac on the other, a new, stronger and reliable backbone for the communities of Central Australia. When I visited the work camp and the crew of Exact Contracting to see the incredible operations that an important Territory company is doing. I want to mention that they were coming to terms with the loss of their founder, the fabulous Greg Rhodes. I sent my sympathies to Greg's wife, Jenni, who was with us on the trip and with whom I spent some time with throughout the day. They're a terrific Territory company, and they're doing fantastic work on sealing the Tanami.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our budget delivered another $200 million of funding for the Northern Territory for remote roads, and that brings the total package up to $382 million for remote communities. These are some of the poorest and most disadvantaged communities in our country. This is important investment in infrastructure, and something I'm very proud that the Albanese Labor government is delivering.</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>89</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">King, Catherine Fiona MP</name>
              <name.id>00AMR</name.id>
              <electorate>Ballarat</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Veterans</title>
          <page.no>89</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Veterans</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>89</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Joyce, Barnaby MP</name>
              <name.id>e5d</name.id>
              <electorate>New England</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
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              <page.no>89</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Keogh, Matt MP</name>
              <name.id>249147</name.id>
              <electorate>Burt</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249147" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr KEOGH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Burt</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Veterans' Affairs and Minister for Defence Personnel</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:55</span>):  I thank the member for his very important question about our Veterans' and Families' Hubs, which are a very important initiative to support our veterans, defence personnel and their families as they transition out of defence. As we've seen so clearly through the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide, it is vitally important that we, as a government—</span>
              </p>
              <a href="265967" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Wallace interjecting</span>—</span>
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              </a>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Fisher is warned.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249147" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr KEOGH:</span>
                  </a>  on behalf of our nation, are able to provide in a coordinated way the services that our veterans and their families deserve to receive and provide that accessibility, especially in areas where we're seeing high concentrations of veterans in the community. Part of the process that we are undertaking in rolling out these Veterans' and Families' Hubs is engaging with those veterans communities to make sure that—</span>
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              <a href="279991" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Conaghan interjecting</span>—</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Cowper will cease interjecting.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249147" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr KEOGH:</span>
                  </a>  those hubs meet the needs of those communities of veterans and families that they will be servicing. It's not a cookie-cutter approach that we are taking. But we were very clear in the commitment—</span>
              </p>
              <a href="279991" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Conaghan interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Cowper is warned.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249147" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr KEOGH:</span>
                  </a>  We were very clear in the commitment that we took to the election.</span>
              </p>
              <a href="279991" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Conaghan interjecting</span>—</span>
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              </a>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Cowper will leave the chamber under standing order 94(a). Continual yelling is not acceptable.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
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                  <a href="249147" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr KEOGH:</span>
                  </a>  Those opposite draw attention to something that I think they have had a great misunderstanding about: the incompetence of their own government over the last nine years, wherein the government previously never made any specific funding commitments to any location about new hubs to be delivered. They might have identified—</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The minister will pause, and I will hear from the Manager of Opposition Business on a point of order.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="L6B" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Fletcher:</span>
                  </a>  Yet again we have a minister who can't stop himself from going on to the record of the previous government—it's relevance—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Resume your seat. The Manager of Opposition Business doesn't have the call. I gave him the call so he could rise to his feet and say what point of order he is taking. If he doesn't do, that I can't make a ruling. I call the minister back to the question.</span>
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                  <a href="249147" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr KEOGH:</span>
                  </a>  As I was trying to point out—given the clear interest in this issue from those opposite—the previous government did not fund any specific locations for new hubs. We were very clear in the commitment that we took forward at the election, which we have a mandate to deliver on, about the locations of the 10 hubs that we would be moving forward with, which included two hubs that the previous government had discussed but not delivered on. We were always clear about that. There was no great secret unveiled last night.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">What we have been clear about, we have now gone to market. After the delivery of the fantastic budget by the Treasurer only a few weeks ago, we are now going to communities and consulting with them, calling for their feedback and input so that they can engage with us about what they would like to see in the hubs in their communities and how they would like to see that support for veterans and families to meet their needs, because the needs of veterans in community are different from place to place. We recognise that and we want to engage with those communities so we can make sure that they get the services that they deserve.</span>
              </p>
              <a href="e5d" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Joyce interjecting</span>—</span>
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              </a>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for New England has asked his question.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249147" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr KEOGH:</span>
                  </a>  As this government has made very clear in its response to the interim report of the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide, we are committed to delivering a better future for defence personnel, veterans and families.</span>
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          <page.no>90</page.no>
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              <page.no>90</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Gosling, Luke MP</name>
              <name.id>245392</name.id>
              <electorate>Solomon</electorate>
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                  <a href="245392" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr GOSLING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Solomon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:59</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Communications. What is the Albanese Labor government doing to better assist our emergency services to protect the lives of Australians in times of crisis or emergency?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>90</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Rowland, Michelle MP</name>
              <name.id>159771</name.id>
              <electorate>Greenway</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="159771" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms ROWLAND</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Greenway</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Communications</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:59</span>):  I thank the member for Solomon for his question. On the eve of Remembrance Day, I acknowledge his service to our country in our armed services.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is a tragic fact that each year in Australia around 30,000 people go missing. Many of these people are found but, devastatingly, some will never be seen again. As we know, the first few hours and days after a person goes missing are the most crucial when searching for them, and that's why today the Albanese government introduced legislation to strengthen emergency services capabilities to locate missing persons. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Last month, a New South Wales Deputy State Coroner wrote to me outlining recommendations stemming from a coronial inquest. The inquest was in relation to the tragic findings of the presumed death of a missing person. In Her Honour's letter, the coroner recommended the removal of a barrier in the Telecommunications Act for emergency services using technology to locate missing persons. Today, three weeks after that correspondence, I brought legislation to this House to address the very issue raised by Her Honour. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">As it currently stands, for law enforcement to request access to an individual's data, the situation must meet the threshold of a serious and imminent threat to a person's life or health. This set the bar too high. In most circumstances, emergency services were unable to reach this threshold and lost a valuable tool in responding swiftly to someone in need. Unfortunately, this is not the first time this issue has been raised. The Australian Law Reform Commission and past coronial inquests have identified these limitations. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This amendment removes the 'imminence' threshold. If emergency services believe there is a serious threat to a person's life or health, assistance may be requested and granted. This bill also ensures that the privacy of Australians is balanced against emergency services requirements, with provision for further oversight over telecommunications data disclosure. To this end, these proposed changes clarify that it is law enforcement that decides the seriousness of the threat rather than the carriers. It's important to note that these laws can be used only in specific circumstances where it's considered impracticable or impossible to obtain a person's consent to their data being shared. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is an important proposed change to the way we deliver emergency services to Australians. The Telecommunications Legislation Amendment (Information Disclosure, National Interest and Other Measures) Bill is targeted not only to improve the operation and transparency of the relationship between law enforcement and telcos but also, crucially, to save lives. I would hope that all members of this House and the other place recognise the urgency of this legislative amendment. If even one life is saved through these changes, it will be a worthy cause. It is based on sound and thorough consultation, and I look forward to this bill being passed expeditiously. </span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>91</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dutton, Peter Craig MP</name>
              <name.id>00AKI</name.id>
              <electorate>Dickson</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="00AKI" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr DUTTON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Dickson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Leader of the Opposition</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:02</span>):  on indulgence—I congratulate the minister on this initiative, something the coalition strongly supports. It's a very important area of public policy and we will lend our full support to it. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">At the beginning of her remarks, the minister acknowledged the member for his service. As we're on the eve of Remembrance Day, I do want to say to all of the veterans in this place: thank you for your service—not just the member that was mentioned but also the members for Canning, Braddon, Herbert, Fadden, Menzies and Leichhardt, and those in the other place as well. To all of those veterans who will be commemorating Remembrance Day, and to all of those family members that treat this as a very significant day in their own lives given the history within their own families, it is important that we recognise their service to keep our country safe not just in generations past but for generations future as well. </span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy: Help to Buy Scheme</title>
          <page.no>91</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Economy: Help to Buy Scheme</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>91</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Sukkar, Michael MP</name>
              <name.id>242515</name.id>
              <electorate>Deakin</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="242515" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr SUKKAR</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Deakin</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:03</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Housing. Goldman Sachs's Chief Economist Andrew Boak says the cash rate will rise five more times to 4.1 per cent over the next six months—they are one of many financial institutions to upgrade their forecasts following your budget. Isn't this proof that the budget was a missed opportunity that failed to deliver on the government's promises—the Prime Minister's promises—of cheaper mortgages for Australian families?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>91</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Collins, Julie Maree MP</name>
              <name.id>HWM</name.id>
              <electorate>Franklin</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWM" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Ms COLLINS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Franklin</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Housing, Minister for Homelessness and Minister for Small Business</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:04</span>):  As the member opposite well knows, interest rates are rising, and they started rising under the former government back in May because of what had occurred because of them prior to the election. In terms of our Help to Buy scheme, which the member is clearly referring to, that is a government equity scheme which we will be moving quickly to get up and running to make sure that Australians do have an opportunity to get into a home. We're talking about up to 30 per cent of government equity for existing homes and up to 40 per cent for new homes that will be available under the Help to Buy scheme. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Government members interjecting</span>—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  Order! The minister has completed her answer, and I give the call to the member for Newcastle.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Government members interjecting</span>—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The Leader of the Nationals is on a warning. The member for Newcastle will be heard in silence.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>91</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>91</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Budget: Education</title>
          <page.no>91</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Budget: Education</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>91</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP</name>
              <name.id>248181</name.id>
              <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms CLAYDON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Newcastle</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Speaker</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:05</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Education. What will be the impact of the additional university places announced in the budget? </span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>92</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Clare, Jason Dean MP</name>
              <name.id>HWL</name.id>
              <electorate>Blaxland</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="HWL" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr CLARE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Blaxland</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Education</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:05</span>):  I thank the member for Newcastle for her question. We have skills shortages right across the country, and a lot of those skills are forged in our universities. It's why we committed in the campaign to fund an extra 20,000 university places. That funding is in the budget, and it's a half-billion dollar investment. A couple of weeks ago I announced the break-up of those 20,000 places. They include funding for more than 4,000 teachers, 2½ nurses, 1,700 extra engineers and more than 2,000 more IT professionals. Today, data came out that advised us that currently more than 44 per cent of young people in their 20s and 30s have a university degree. That's a good thing, but it's not the case if your parents are poor or if you come from regional Australia or the more remote parts of Australia. Only 20 per cent of people from poor backgrounds and only 20 per cent of people from regional Australia have a uni degree. It's even lower if you're an Indigenous Australian: only seven per cent of Indigenous Australians have a uni degree. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">As I spoke to vice-chancellors about these 20,000 places, one vice-chancellor said to me, 'Minister, why don't you allocate 5,000 of the 20,000 to the groups that are underrepresented at university?' I thought, 'Why don't we allocate all of them?' And that's what we did. The universities that got the biggest share of these are Newcastle university, Charles Darwin University, Wollongong, Curtin, Edith Cowan, Adelaide, Victoria University, Queensland University of Technology, Charles Sturt and Southern Cross. We need more teachers, we need more nurses, we need more engineers, but we also need to make sure that our universities are ready for the next decade and beyond. That's what the Universities Accord will be all about. It'll be a big and broad review of our higher education system, the first since Denise Bradley did that work almost 15 years ago. Next week I'll announce the team that will lead that work and their terms of reference. One of the big issues that I want them to look at is this: how do we open the doors of opportunity that the Prime Minister talked about on election night to more Australians? The 20,000 places are a start, but there's a lot more work to do. </span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </answer>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Energy</title>
          <page.no>92</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Energy</span>
            </p>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <question>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>92</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Pike, Henry MP</name>
              <name.id>300120</name.id>
              <electorate>Bowman</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300120" type="MemberQuestion">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Mr PIKE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bowman</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:08</span>):  My question is to the Minister for Climate Change and Energy. I refer to soaring concern amongst Australians on the spiralling cost of living occurring under the government's watch, including surveys today showing more Australians are concerned about having to pay more for everything and rightly believe the government is doing nothing to address these concerns. Why is the government still refusing to act to reduce the cost of living almost six months since they were elected, instead delivering a budget that baked in electricity price rises of 56 per cent and gas price rises of 44 per cent over two years?</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </question>
        <answer>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>92</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Bowen, Chris MP</name>
              <name.id>DZS</name.id>
              <electorate>McMahon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DZS" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr BOWEN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">McMahon</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Climate Change and Energy</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:08</span>):  I thank the honourable member for his question about what the government did in the budget in relation to energy prices and the cost of living. I'm more than happy to answer the question because the budget provided $20 billion of funding to ensure that we rewire this country. After years of indolence by those over there who talked about the Marinus Link for 10 years, in our first six months the Prime Minister and this government made the Marinus Link a reality by working with Tasmania and Victoria to fund it. Talking about a link does not move one watt of electricity around this country; funding a link does, and that's what we did. We also funded our 400 community batteries across Australia, which will help families to store the renewable energy that they generate and to use it at a time and a place convenient to them because batteries store renewable energy, something the Leader of the Opposition has some trouble coming to terms with. The Leader of the Opposition was on the radio this morning, on 2GB, being interviewed by Ray Hadley—where the Leader of the Opposition always goes to get his toughest questions!—and he said, 'You can't store the renewable energy at the moment.' That's what the Leader of the Opposition said. The battery was invented by Alessandro Volta in 1800, but the Leader of the Opposition is still catching up with these facts. He still doesn't understand that just because the sun doesn't always shine and the wind doesn't always blow—nor does the rain always fall, but we manage to store water, we manage to drink water when it's not raining—</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for Bowman? And I ask him to state the point of order.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="300120" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Pike:</span>
                  </a>  I rise on relevance. I didn't ask for a history lesson. My question related to costs of living.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  You did ask a very broad question about the cost of living and the costs of energy and reports today. So, I'll ask the minister to continue. He is being in order.</span>
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                  <a href="DZS" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr BOWEN:</span>
                  </a>  Thank you, Mr Speaker. We don't have to go back too far to be reminded of the former Prime Minister—who also happens to be the former minister for energy—the member for Cook, who said that a big battery was as useful as a big prawn. Nothing has changed over there. The former Prime Minister didn't get it. The current Leader of the Opposition doesn't get it. They don't really get renewable energy. They don't understand that renewable energy is the cheapest form of energy. They pay lip-service to renewable energy, but they just hate all the policies that actually deliver renewable energy. They hate our Rewiring the Nation policy. They hate our Community Batteries policy. They hate the real policies that actually bring these things on, which will provide cost-of-living relief to Australians, which will get more renewable energy. At the end of the day, you can change the face on the picture but it's just the same old Liberal Party that the Australian people rejected on 22 May.</span>
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                <page.no>92</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <page.no>92</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Pike, Henry MP</name>
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                <electorate>Bowman</electorate>
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                <page.no>92</page.no>
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                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
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                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
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                <page.no>92</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Bowen, Chris MP</name>
                <name.id>DZS</name.id>
                <electorate>McMahon</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>International Relations</title>
          <page.no>93</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>93</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Stanley, Anne MP</name>
              <name.id>265990</name.id>
              <electorate>Werriwa</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberQuestion">Ms STANLEY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Werriwa</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:11</span>):  My question is to the Prime Minister. What upcoming international summits will the Prime Minister be attending? And how will this enhance Australia's security and our economy?</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>93</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <a href="R36" type="MemberAnswer">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberAnswer">Mr ALBANESE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Grayndler</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Prime Minister</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:12</span>):  I thank the member for Werriwa for her question. Tomorrow, after I attend the Remembrance Day commemorations at Martin Place in Sydney, I'll be travelling to the ASEAN Australia Summit and the East Asia Summit in Cambodia, which will then be followed by the G20 Bali Summit in Indonesia and then the APEC Economic Leaders Summit in Thailand. During the next nine days a series of direct bilateral meetings have been lined up as well, including with the new UK Prime Minister and our other friends.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Indo-Pacific is absolutely critical to regional prosperity and security and to the future of our nation. That's why I'm particularly pleased to have accepted President Widodo's invitation to be one of the three speakers at the B20 meeting, along with himself as chair of the current G20 and Prime Minister Modi as the next incoming chair of the G20. This meeting will be attended by the leaders of Australian businesses, including the heads of ACCI, the BCA and the Australian Industry Group.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">These conferences come at a critical time. We know that the global financial outlook is stark. We know that there is rising inflation throughout the world. We know that geostrategic tensions are intensifying. And we've seen the impact of climate change globally as well. One of the many truths that the pandemic made clear is that what happens in the rest of the world matters here at home as well. That unfortunately has been driven home by the global impact of Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine. Even though that's half a world away, Australian families are feeling the impact here, and the Australian government—in a bipartisan way, I must say—has been supportive and will continue to support the heroic struggle of the people of Ukraine against this trashing of international law.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Supply chain breakdowns across the world mean that Australians are seeing price spikes and shortages. We must work together with our international partners to tackle inflation, to tackle skills shortages and to tackle climate change. That's how we can grow our economy at home and promote stability in our region. We're showing that Australia is back as a partner and as a leader, bringing a calm, mature and collaborative approach to international relations and standing up for Australia's interests wherever and whenever we need to. We will be raising issues of Australia's national interest at these meetings. The Treasurer will be joining me at the B20 and for the beginning of the G20 in Indonesia as well. I congratulate President Widodo, our friend, for the work that he has done in organising this important international summit, which is an important recognition of the standing that Indonesia has as it rises, along with India, to be in the top five economies in the world over coming decades. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">On that note, Mr Speaker, I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.</span>
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        <title>CONDOLENCES</title>
        <page.no>93</page.no>
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          <title>Meader, Ms Chrys</title>
          <page.no>93</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Meader, Ms Chrys</span>
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        <talk>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>93</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Albanese, Anthony MP</name>
              <name.id>R36</name.id>
              <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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        <page.no>93</page.no>
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          <title>Quorums</title>
          <page.no>93</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>93</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
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                  <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">KER</span> (<span class="HPS-Time">15:17</span>):  Following an incident earlier today, for the benefit of all members—and in particular for all new members—I want to remind members of the procedures for when the attention of the Speaker or Deputy Speaker is drawn to the state of the House and the Speaker or Deputy Speaker observes that a quorum is not present. Standing order 56(d) is clear: no member may leave the chamber while the bells are ringing or until a quorum is present. I understand the member for Fairfax has indicated he would like the call. </span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>94</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">O'Brien, Ted MP</name>
              <name.id>138932</name.id>
              <electorate>Fairfax</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="138932" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TED O'BRIEN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fairfax</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:17</span>):  Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. My apologies to the House and my thanks to you for your wise counsel in this regard. It's also a little bit embarrassing when a quorum is called immediately after you've given a speech, because it indicates there weren't many people in the House listening to your speech! I want to assure the member for Moreton there was certainly no offence to you, who spoke after me as I left the House in a rush. And, therefore, I make that apology.</span>
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                  </a>  I thank the member for Fairfax. </span>
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                <page.no>94</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>53517</name.id>
                <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
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        <page.no>94</page.no>
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          <page.no>94</page.no>
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              <page.no>94</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ryan, Joanne MP</name>
              <name.id>249224</name.id>
              <electorate>Lalor</electorate>
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                  <a href="249224" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms RYAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lalor</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Chief Government Whip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:18</span>):  I wish to make a personal explanation.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>   Do you claim to be misrepresented? </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249224" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms RYAN:</span>
                  </a>  I do, most grievously. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  You may proceed. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249224" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms RYAN:</span>
                  </a>  Today in 90-second statements, the member for La Trobe referred to me as the member for 'laylor'. This is a—</span>
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              <a href="E0F" type="GeneralIInterjecting">
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
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                    <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Mr Wood interjecting</span>—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The SPEAKER:</span>
                  </a>  The member for La Trobe is on a warning. The member for Lalor has the call. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249224" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Ms RYAN:</span>
                  </a>  This not only misrepresents me; it misrepresents my entire community. The name of the seat I represent is Lalor. The member for La Trobe needs to understand that in Melbourne, where he's from, there's a suburb called Lalor that's pronounced as 'laylor'. It's nowhere near my seat. I'm tired of the confusion between Lalor and Scullin, where 'laylor' exists. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Further, the member for La Trobe said that I simply don't care about vulnerable communities, particularly communities of faith. The member for La Trobe may want to read an article that was in <span style="font-style:italic;">The </span><span style="font-style:italic;">Australian</span> today, where the temple he was referring to says I have visited it twice. I would give further evidence that this is a misrepresentation because if the member for La Trobe would like to check the budget he would find that Labor is supporting the Wyndham Multi Faith Network in this year's budget.</span>
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          <page.no>94</page.no>
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              <page.no>94</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Burke, Tony MP</name>
              <name.id>DYW</name.id>
              <electorate>Watson</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="DYW" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BURKE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Watson</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, Minister for the Arts and Leader of the House</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:20</span>):  Documents are tabled in accordance with the list circulated to honourable members earlier today. Full details of the documents will be recorded in the <span style="font-style:italic;">Votes and Proceedings</span>.</span>
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        <title>MATTERS OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE</title>
        <page.no>94</page.no>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">MATTERS OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE</span>
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          <title>Budget</title>
          <page.no>94</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>94</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Dick, Milton MP (The SPEAKER)</name>
              <name.id>53517</name.id>
              <electorate>Oxley</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="53517" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">The SPEAKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Time">15:20</span>):  I have received a letter from the honourable member for Hume proposing that a definite matter of public importance be submitted to the House for discussion, namely:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">This government’s broken promises, including the promise to reduce the cost of mortgages for Australian families.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I call upon those honourable members who approve of the proposed discussion to rise in their places.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">More than the number of members required by the standing orders having risen in their places—</span>
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              <page.no>94</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Taylor, Angus MP</name>
              <name.id>231027</name.id>
              <electorate>Hume</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="231027" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TAYLOR</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Hume</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:21</span>):  The budget was an opportunity for the government to lay out how it is dealing with the great strengths it inherited in the economy and in the budget and with the great challenges that we face as a nation. But instead, after only a few short days, it sank without a trace. That is because all we got in this budget was gloom, doom, forecasting and commentary. What we didn't get was a plan. The Treasurer said before the budget he was going to paint a picture, and I was looking forward to perhaps an oil painting or a water colour, but we know that all we got was a self-portrait, because in the lead-up to the Budget we saw puff piece after puff piece, not about the budget but about the Treasurer. The Treasurer was more obsessed with himself than he was with the great people of this great nation who wanted to see a plan. They wanted to see a plan.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The test for this budget was simple. It was to deliver a comprehensive plan that builds on the great strengths that have been inherited and deals with the challenges that we face: to put downward pressure on inflation and interest rates without increasing taxes, to relieve the supply side pressures we see in the economy by increasing participation rates and productivity, and to deliver on the key promises that Labor made in their election campaign—unambiguous promises. In the shorter term, Australians do want to see lower interest rate. They do want to see lower inflation. In the longer term, they want to be in a position where they're empowered, where their aspirations can be realised, where they know they're going to have a lower tax environment, an environment where if they put in effort, if they make investments and if they take risks, they're going to be rewarded for it but they saw none of that. They saw absolutely none of that. All they saw was a missed opportunity.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Instead of delivering a comprehensive plan to deal with interest rates and inflation, we know now that what we've seen is a plan, or a lack of a plan, which will leave the Reserve Bank doing all the work to deal with the interest rates and inflation that we are seeing with such strength. Instead of delivering economic growth and ensuring that spending is less than economic growth, we've seen $115 billion of extra spending in this budget. A Reserve Bank that wants to be able to take the pressure off Australian families, to not raise interest rates as much as it otherwise would have, doesn't want to see an extra $115 billion of spending but that's exactly what it saw in this budget.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">When it comes to broken promises, the list is long. I only have seven minutes left, so I have to focus on a short list of broken promises because there are many. There is the $275 reduction in power prices. The Treasurer misheard the question on this but the truth is it is gone. That promise is absolutely gone, replaced with a 56 per cent increase in the next two years. They promised no change in franking credits. Gone. There's $550 million of additional taxes on franking credits. I remember 2019 well. Maybe the Treasurer was mishearing during the 2019 election campaign. The Australian people said very clearly in 2019 that they don't want to see more tax on franking credits. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">They promised, prior to the election, an improvement and increase in real wages. In fact, what we saw in the budget, in black and white, was no increase in real wages in this term of government. We saw—we heard it today—in their campaign launch, a few weeks before the election, a promise of cheaper mortgages. There are no asterisks or footnotes in that one. I went through and checked very carefully. It's gone! Cheaper mortgages? They've given up the ghost and put up the white flag. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is what we've seen of this budget. More than anything else, it's Labor putting up the white flag to the challenges Australians are facing, with a whole series of broken promises. It's not surprising that some gave the Treasurer the label 'Snake Chalmers' soon after the budget was handed down. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Claydon</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Member for Hume, I might remind you to temper your remarks when referring to other members and use their proper titles. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="231027" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr TAYLOR:</span>
                  </a>  Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Stephen Koukoulas, who was an adviser to Julia Gillard, was making commentary on the budget, particularly in relation to the impact that the budget might have on interest rates. Every good economist knows that a good budget, a budget that lays out a clear plan, can take pressure off the Reserve Bank, which means Australians face fewer interest rate increases than would otherwise be the case. Every Australian wants to see that mortgages are payable, that they have cheaper mortgages. It's something that was promised by those opposite. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Stephen Koukoulas, in commenting on the budget, said that the budget puts no downward pressure on inflation, leaving 'the Reserve Bank with all of the work, in carrying the can, in getting the inflation rate lower'. There was no plan in this budget. There was just leaving the Reserve Bank to carry the can. If the Reserve Bank carries the can, Australians pay the price—every Australian, particularly every hardworking Australian with a mortgage. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Treasurer is running around saying that the budget was responsible. I've already said that there was an extra $115 billion of spending in the budget. When you take the March budget and look at the four years over the forwards—add up the spending there, and then compare that with this budget—there's an extra $115 billion of spending in this budget. That is not a responsible budget. I don't think anyone could call an extra $115 billion of loose change a responsible budget.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It gets worse. When you look across—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">Honourable members interjecting</span>—</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  Enough of the interjections from both sides of the House. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="231027" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr TAYLOR:</span>
                  </a>  The government is clocking up deficits to the tune of $181 billion. The truth is, what you normally expect of a Treasurer coming into a new job like this is that they'll try to improve the situation. So I looked at the budget ,when I was in the lock-up, thinking, 'Okay, he's going to reduce the deficit; the deficit's going to come down.' But, no! It goes from $32 billion up to $51 billion in 2024-25. How does anyone expect the Reserve Bank to manage interest rates down in an environment where the government is blowing out its spending and blowing out the budget deficits? That is exactly what is going on in this budget. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">But they've done something else—very tricky, very sneaky. It took us a little while to find this. They've given up on the notion of budget balance. It's gone. Since 1996, every budget, Labor or Liberal, has always committed in the fiscal strategy to budget balance. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="138932" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Ted O'Brien:</span>
                  </a>  Even Swannie tried!</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="231027" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr TAYLOR:</span>
                  </a>  Even Swannie had a go! He at least notionally committed to it. It was in his budget. You could read through the fiscal strategy, and there it was: budget balance. In this budget, it was gone—struck out. How on earth can the Reserve Bank and every Australian who is borrowing money have any confidence, in that environment, that we can manage down interest rates and avoid a blowout in interest rates in the coming months and years? We know, because we heard it today, that the Goldman Sachs chief economist has pointed out that the cash rate is expected to go to over four per cent and, of course, that means a much higher rate for mortgages in the coming months. As we approach Christmas, every Australian with a mortgage knows they are going to be paying a lot more.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">A whole host of economists have pointed this out. Steven Hamilton from the ANU's tax and transfer policy unit has said this budget delivers the weakest economic and fiscal strategy of any government since the Charter of Budget Honesty was established—the weakest economic and fiscal strategy—and the exact opposite of a responsible economic manager. This is so disappointing. Hamilton goes on to point out that the government is 'actively driving the budget deeper into structural deficit'. There is nothing in there that can give Australians any confidence that there's a plan that will take pressure off inflation or take pressure off interest rates, and that is incredibly disappointing. This was a great missed opportunity.</span>
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                  <a href="A9B" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr JONES</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Whitlam</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Treasurer a</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">nd Minister for Financial Services</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:31</span>):  We've just had a 10-minute demonstration of why the people of Australia look at this coalition and think of them as a bunch of political bin chickens, scratching around for misery and relevance—</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Claydon</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Minister, take your seat, please. Manager of Opposition Business.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Fletcher:</span>
                  </a>  Deputy Speaker, the Speaker has ruled on that offensive term that the minister has, sadly, a track record of repeatedly using. The Speaker has made it clear that it's unparliamentary, and the member must withdraw. </span>
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                  <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  I ask the Assistant Treasurer to withdraw, please.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr JONES:</span>
                  </a>  I withdraw. We have just had 10 minutes of demonstration that this mob over here haven't come to terms with the decision that the people of Australia made on 21 May this year. They want to have a discussion this afternoon about political promises and about the commitments that we've made and delivered to the Australian people. Let's go through them.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We promised to get wages moving and we've introduced laws and passed them through this parliament today which will ensure some of the lowest-paid Australians have the capacity to bargain effectively and collectively to get their wages moving. You'd think that the coalition opposition, which was so concerned about low-paid workers and the projection of wages, would have voted in favour of sensible reforms to get wages moving. What did they do? They spent the entire morning moaning and whingeing and obstructing and attempting to stop Labor's sensible plan moving through this House. But, thankfully, the majority of members of parliament did not agree with them.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We have stuck good with our commitment to get wages moving for the lowest-paid Australians. Within a day of winning the election, we wrote to the Fair Work Commission, supporting an increase in the minimum wage for Australia's low-paid workers and it was delivered—on average a $40 increase for some of Australia's lowest-paid workers. What did this mob over here say about that? It was all too hard. Well, it wasn't all too hard. We promised it, we delivered it and there is more to come. We promise that we're on the side of aged-care workers because we know that, unless we can lift the minimum wages of aged-care workers, we aren't going to be able to provide the services to some of Australia's most vulnerable people. We want to improve the level of care in aged care and we want to improve the wages of aged-care workers. We promised it and we're delivering it. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We promised to fix the mess in the energy system. You'd think the member for Hume would show a just a little bit of humility, because there's not a person in this parliament who is more responsible for the abject mess and destruction that we've seen in energy and energy policy in this country than the member for Hume. If dopey looks could power an energy system we'd have it nailed. We'd have it nailed because that's all we see. All we see from the member for Hume—</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  I'll save the member for Riverina on the point of order, Member for Whitlam, and ask you to withdraw the reference that you just made.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr JONES:</span>
                  </a>  I withdraw. They are so easy to form offence, so easy to own offence and so easy to own up to it, as well. If the production of policies that went nowhere was going to be an answer to our energy crisis then the member for Hume would have had it nailed. They had 22 energy policies. His hands were over every single one of them, destroying them all and ensuring that we have the energy chaos that we are experiencing in Australia today. The net result from households and businesses is energy prices going through the roof.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We promised a federal ICAC. We promised a federal anticorruption commission because Australians were sick of the rorts and the behaviour of that mob over there. Nine years of rorts, of being unable to tell the truth, of an inability to take responsibility for anything, of an inability to hold a hose—it was always somebody else's responsibility. The money of the people of Australia was seemingly the political plaything of the coalition parties. The Australian people were sick to death of that style of government. They wanted a federal anticorruption commission, and we have introduced laws to ensure the people of Australia get one. Those opposite can't make up their mind whether they support it or not. Well, the people of Australia have made up their mind.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We promised to fix aged care. We promised to fix child care and early childhood education. At the very time that members opposite were giving thunderous speeches against our proposed collective bargaining laws, a few metres away some of the lowest paid Australians, who are charged with some of the highest responsibilities, in educating Australian children, were waiting for the result of the deliberation of this chamber. They saw one side of politics backing them in and ensuring that the people we entrust with educating Australians at the earliest of ages are going to get a wage rise through a sensible enterprise bargaining system, and they saw that mob over there vote against it. We promised to stand for early childhood educators, and we are doing it. We promised to fix the mess in aged care, returning nurses to nursing homes and ensuring that the recommendations of the Royal Commission into Aged Care Quality and Safety were implemented.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">They want to talk about promises. We promised to fix the mess and the pandemic of scams and fraud that grew and grew on their watch, from $2 billion to $4 billion, that were all seemingly too hard to deal with. We said: 'No, it's not too hard to deal with. Some of Australia's most vulnerable people and businesses from regions to the country to big cities are the victims of scams that are costing us up to $2 billion a year. We're going to do something about it.' And we are fixing that mess as well.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labour shortages, domestic manufacturing, cybersecurity and fraud—we all remember the member for Hume promising us a big stick that was somehow going to fix the gas market. Where is that big stick today? The gas marketing policies and the gas market that they set up are not working. We've got the worst gas crisis we have seen our nation's history. The policies and the market mechanisms that they set us are the direct result of the tools that we're supposed to use to fix it. They're not working. We're getting on with the job of fixing it, and we'll ensure that we are going to bring down the price of gas and other energy as a result.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Of all the things that they haven't come to terms with, let's look at the state of the budget. They left us with a structural deficit, and they still won't own up to it. They left a budget in absolute chaos and mess, with a structural deficit and with deficits running from here beyond the next 10 years. They wanted Australians to accept some notion that all you had to do was sprinkle magic growth dust over the numbers and all of that was going to go away. Australians aren't mugs. They voted for change and they're going to get it. We are going to be honest with Australian people. We have started that honest discussion with the budget we delivered a few weeks ago. We're telling them where the problems are. We're telling them where the budget pressures are. We're telling them what needs to be done to fix it and we will fix it. A trillion dollars worth of debt—on which the interest payments are the fastest growing element of expenses in our budget today. They want to lecture us on economic management. That mob over there were the worst economic managers that this country has ever seen.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">They introduced a budget a few months ago that did not have one cent of saving in it—not one cent of saving! They're cackling over there, but there was not one cent of saving in the budget a few months ago and they want to lecture us on the $22 billion worth of savings. The rorts and mismanagement that we found in their budget—that for them was supposedly too hard, too difficult and couldn't be found. Twenty-two billion dollars worth of savings—we're doing the hard work. We will not accept a lecture from this mob over here on economic management, because they are an absolute and abject joke. A structural deficit, a trillion dollars worth of debt, businesses that can't get workers, workers that can't afford to turn up to work because wages haven't moved in over a decade—this mob are hopeless!</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
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                <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
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                <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
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                <electorate>Whitlam</electorate>
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              <name role="metadata">Bell, Angie MP</name>
              <name.id>282981</name.id>
              <electorate>Moncrieff</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms BELL</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moncrieff</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:41</span>):  Life will be cheaper under me. That was the headline—life will be cheaper under me—on the front page of the Oz. Cheaper electricity bills, cheaper mortgages, a plan to bring down the cost of living. That's what he said: life will be cheaper under me. The Prime Minister told Australians that they'd be better off under him and a Labor government. But six months on the only thing that is going up is inflation, gas prices, electricity prices, mortgage payments and interest rates. How much support is coming to the Australian people for their cost of living? Zero. Absolutely nothing. By Christmas regular Australian families will be paying at least $2,000 more. They'll be $2,000 worse off by Christmas. The Prime Minister said, 'No-one left behind.' He promised that but apparently that only applies to their union masters.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The government had one task for their budget: to deliver a plan that reduced cost-of-living pressures, put downward pressure on inflation and interest rates, and deliver on the key promises—the promises that they made to the Australian people. 'Life will be cheaper under me,' he said. Not only did they fail that test, but they've failed the Australian people they promised to support. Australians can't afford to pay their electricity bills, because prices are rising by 56 per cent. Gas prices are going to be up by 44 per cent. My dear old dad in South Australia already can't afford his electricity prices and now this government is pushing them through the roof by 56 per cent. Australians are struggling to pay their gas bills and prices are forecast to go up by 44 per cent. These are Australians who have worked their whole lives and now they can't afford to pay their bills. They are Australians who are struggling to pay their mortgages, because interest rates continue to climb.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">On 97 occasions those opposite, the Prime Minister, promised a $275 cut in power bills—97 times! Yet when it comes to delivering on that promise they back out. What do they do? They divert blame. They shake the finger. They shake the finger, they divert and they blame us on our side. They fumble with fake apologies, excuses and reasons as to why they spend that money somewhere else.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Australians are having to choose between whether they heat or whether they eat and this government couldn't care less. The reality is that it's getting harder and harder for Australians to make ends meet under this new, inexperienced, baby Labor government which is clearly incapable of managing our economy.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Almost every day of the election campaign the Prime Minister promised he would show up and take responsibility. He now spends question time talking about what the opposition did, not talking about what his plan for the Australian people is. Why? Because he doesn't have a plan. He needs to stop making excuses, stand up and start governing. Instead of providing tax relief; they're increasing taxes.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Let's be clear: those opposite love to tax. They're lovers of tax, that's what they are. Labor loves a tax. And we know how those in Labor feel about aspiration. Do they even know what 'aspiration' means? The coalition will always support aspirational Australians. We want to see your small-, family- and medium-sized businesses grow. We want to see you grow, we want to see you successful, we want to see you own your own home and we want to see you take home more of what you earn, to build something that you care about.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">All that Labor, on the other side, sees are dollar signs. Labor loves a tax. They said they supported the stage 3 tax cuts, but now they're not sure anymore, which means that millions of Australians will be worse off when they scrap them. If they're repealed, a teacher earning $70,000 a year would lose more than $620 every year. A qualified diesel mechanic earning $100,000 a year would lose more than $1,370 every single year if they scrap those tax cuts. How is that fair? I can tell Australians that the coalition will continue to fight for your tax relief, because it's your money and not theirs.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor also promised to increase real wages, but this budget shows that real wages are going backwards. The coalition wants to see higher wages but this government's plan for radical changes to IR laws to give power to their union mates is bad for the economy, bad for business, bad for employers and bad for employees and families. This government is failing to deliver for Australians and failing to deliver on the Prime Minister's promise that 'life will be cheaper under me'. Mr Love-a-tax—'life will be cheaper under me'. They're just making a bad situation much, much worse.</span>
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              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Payne, Alicia MP</name>
              <name.id>144732</name.id>
              <electorate>Canberra</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms PAYNE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Canberra</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:46</span>):  I'm really pleased to have the opportunity to rise to speak on this matter of public importance. I'm finding some of the statements by those opposite just absolutely laughable. There's the hypocrisy, after 10 years in government, of asking, 'What is your plan?' We have done more in the last six months for this country than they did in nearly a decade. That was a government—it actually goes beyond party politics—that was beneath the office of governing.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">They were not taking responsibility for anything and they had lost any interest in what was important to the Australian people. They were not looking after their interests; they were looking after their own interests. Everything they did was about an announcement and trying to stay in government. They were becoming increasingly desperate and, in May this year, the Australian people spoke. As a great man once said, when you change the government you change the country. And we have seen that already in the less-than-six months that the Albanese Labor government has been in government. We have not wasted a day—we have not wasted a minute—in making the changes that we need in order to start building a better future for Australians.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In our budget, handed down a couple of weeks ago, we are looking at delivering cost-of-living relief that doesn't increase inflation. We are looking at making child care cheaper for Australian families. We have extended paid parental leave. We are investing in housing and we are investing in renewable energy, to take the climate action we need and to reduce power prices. On their watch, I think there were 22—or was it 23; there were more than 20—energy policies and they couldn't land one. So they have landed this country in the mess that we inherited as a government, and we're just beginning to address that. And we have achieved so much, I have to say, in such a short time.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This matter of public importance which they raised today is about mortgages, and I'm really pleased to talk about the Albanese Labor government's agenda on housing. This was a huge part of the platform that we took to the election and a huge part of our agenda. It's really important, because, as we all know, people in our electorates are struggling with the cost of housing. I do feel for those in the opposition; they've come in here and have to try to say something. After 10 years of delivering nothing in this regard, it must be difficult. But I have to say: the hypocrisy is a little bit hard to take when they ask what our plan is.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">What was their plan to help Australians with housing? Their plan was to let young people rob their own retirement savings. This was the great idea of the former member for Goldstein, Tim Wilson, and they adopted it in the dying days of the 2022 election. They genuinely wanted Australians to rob from their future selves to pay for their housing. There are many reasons why that policy was a very bad idea, but one of the main ones is that it was actually going to increase demand without increasing supply. I'll give you a quick lesson in economics 101: if you are going to increase demand without increasing supply, prices will go up and mortgages will go up. So the housing market really dodged a bullet in May this year and the Australian people made the right choice if they want to see the housing crisis in this country addressed.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Affordable housing is central to the security and dignity of all Australians. It is tough to buy a home now—tougher than ever before—and research by the Grattan Institute has found that 40 years ago almost 60 per cent of young Australians on low and modest incomes owned their own homes. Sadly, that is now only 28 per cent. That is why we are taking the action that is needed.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our housing minister has revealed that, in the month since the launch of our regional housing policy on 1 October, more than 360 regional Australians have already taken advantage of the Regional First Home Buyer Guarantee. This is a guarantee that helps regional Australians with a deposit of as little as five per cent to buy a home— <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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              <page.no>99</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">McCormack, Michael MP</name>
              <name.id>219646</name.id>
              <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
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                  <a href="219646" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr McCORMACK</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Riverina</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:51</span>):  The member for Canberra asks: what did we achieve in nearly 10 years of government? The final two years were very difficult, Member for Canberra. I can remember being in those top-level meetings when we were being told by the Chief Medical Officer that we could expect tens of thousands of Australians to die from COVID-19 within weeks, if not months. And I can well remember when James Kwan passed away, having contracted COVID-19 on the <span style="font-style:italic;">Diamond Princess</span> cruise ship. That was 1 March 2020. We were headed towards a budget surplus, the first budget surplus for a dozen years, and that paled into insignificance compared to what we needed to do as a government and as an executive of government to keep Australians alive, to keep Australians safe and to keep businesses' doors open. Keeping people's livelihoods was the first priority, because the first priority of a government is keeping its nation's people safe. And that's what we did.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Yes, we racked up a considerable debt. It wasn't a trillion dollars, as those opposite would claim. It isn't anywhere near a trillion dollars, but, yes, it is a massive debt, and yes, the Albanese government has inherited a large debt. But that debt kept Australians alive. That debt kept Australians in jobs. That debt kept businesses open. Whether it was in regional Australia or in metropolitan Australia, it did not matter. It was almost a war footing. They were almost warlike conditions that we were confronted with, because it was almost like a war; it was a war on Australia's health. I am very proud that, in my time as Deputy Prime Minister, with Scott Morrison as Prime Minister and with great people—</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralIInterjecting">An honourable member interjecting</span>—</span>
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                  <a href="219646" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr McCORMACK:</span>
                  </a>  Yes, there were a few others. There was Josh Frydenberg. There was Greg Hunt. They are no longer in the parliament. Greg retired. Josh, unfortunately, was beaten in Kooyong, and I acknowledge that that's democracy. I acknowledge that, yes, Australians voted for change on 21 May; I acknowledge that. Australians were very frustrated. They were frustrated by state premiers who closed borders and closed people down for too long, but that was also something that the Commonwealth tried to work with the states on. We tried to put Australians above politics, and I think we did that. I think the fact that we're now not wearing masks, the fact that we're now moving freely around our country and the fact that the Hopkins research centre index had Australia rated No. 2 in the world for our response to COVID-19 is something we should be very proud of as a nation. I know I am. And I know that, long after I've finished in this place, that will be one of the legacies—that I was in on those meetings.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I know those opposite come in here and talk, with their political strategy of: 'Let's talk about a trillion dollars of debt!' Well, it is a big debt—I acknowledge that. But the fact remains: it's not anywhere near a trillion dollars. And the fact remains: we kept Australians alive and we kept Australians in jobs.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We're talking here about broken promises, and there are many. I am very disappointed, for my own electorate, and I know the member for Cowper is also earnestly and honestly disappointed, that our areas, our regions, have lost out on veterans wellbeing centres. There are thousands upon thousands of veterans, in Cowper and in Riverina, who deserve nothing less than a wellness centre in their electorate. But they've been taken away because of a broken commitment by Labor; we offered $5 million to each area, and they have been taken away and put in Labor electorates.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Building Better Regions Fund has been rebadged, and there's less money in it. That is a shame. That is a broken promise to regional Australia.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralInterjecting">An opposition member:</span>  A shame.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="219646" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr McCORMACK:</span>
                  </a>  It is. Real wages are coming down. I know those opposite talk about the fact that the Fair Work Commission has increased the lowest rate of wages. We have the highest minimum wage in the world. That's something we should also, as a nation, be very proud of. I don't hear those opposite talking that up. We should be very proud of what we have as a nation, and we should be positive about our future—not always blaming others for something that has been done in the past, which is what the government does all too often. We should be positive. We should be talking up the economic fortunes of our nation, because they will be strong and I hope they are.</span>
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                <page.no>99</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">McCormack, Michael MP</name>
                <name.id>219646</name.id>
                <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
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                <page.no>100</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">McCormack, Michael MP</name>
                <name.id>219646</name.id>
                <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
                <party>NATS</party>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>100</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Gosling, Luke MP</name>
              <name.id>245392</name.id>
              <electorate>Solomon</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="245392" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GOSLING</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Solomon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">15:56</span>):  I say to the previous speaker: you can be assured that we are very proud of what we're doing with the minimum wage in that increase—very proud indeed. I want to acknowledge, also, the previous speaker's acknowledgment of the massive debt that was racked up by those opposite, in former governments, before COVID. When no-one even knew what COVID was, there was a massive debt racked up. So it's a bit rich, I've got to say, for those opposite to talk about broken promises—very rich. Their governments—in previous iterations, under previous prime ministers, who, of course, were stabbed in the back—probably broke more promises than any other governments in the history of the Commonwealth.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Those opposite loved nothing more than to make an announcement and to have a photo op. But, when it came to the delivery, it was a very, very different situation indeed. Often it would be a case of an announcement, a photo op—the friendly media would give them front pages—but then very little happened after that. Their lips were zipped at that point. Then, of course, they used distraction in order to try and pretend that they were delivering.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But the reality was that, with three prime ministers, they were more involved in the internals and, in particular, as we heard today, using the posts of defence minister and veterans ministers as prizes in factional battles around knifing leaders. That is not to take anything away from the previous speaker's efforts when he held one of those posts, but he would have to say, without a doubt, that that chopping and changing of ministers in those portfolios led to an inability to deliver capability that has left our nation now, essentially, with a very difficult transition to submarine strike capability into the future, at a time when there's perhaps the most difficult set of strategic circumstances facing us.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But who could forget—if we do go back in history a bit, because I think this is where the rot always started with those opposite, and some of those on the front bench and some of those on the back bench were part of these governments—Tony Abbott? Remember that government, the one that he led?</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">You would also remember that he said something like: 'No cuts to the ABC and SBS. No cuts to education and health.' Then he stood up and delivered what was probably the worst budget ever delivered in this country. It did the exact opposite of what he had promised prior to that election.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Also what about their promise then for stable government? They stabbed in the back one Prime Minister and then another Prime Minister. Those opposite, if I'm not mistaken—and I'm happy to be corrected—hold the record when it comes to knifing their own leaders. I reckon they hold that record by a country mile. Does anyone want to give another situation that was as destabilising as that period in the last nine or 10 years?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">They did a backflip, as I said, on the submarine purchases and $5 billion was wasted. That money has just disappeared. Anyone who lives in regional Australia knows that $5 billion can do a fair bit. That left us not only in a strategic difficulty but also with fiscal waste. It is forever a stain on those governments. The list of their failed promises in the defence arena alone would have me here half a day, and I haven't got much time left. There were so many promises.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to touch on First Nations. They said that they would engage more with First Nations, but then refused to back the Uluru Statement from the Heart, which came from the heart of First Nations people and was about what they needed to move forward. They ignored that. Then they called a royal commission into youth detention in the Northern Territory, but didn't do anything to help with the implementation of those recommendations. That's another stain on those opposite, which they should be ashamed of.</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>100</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Willcox, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>286535</name.id>
              <electorate>Dawson</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="286535" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WILLCOX</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Dawson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:01</span>):  Government is not a spectator sport; you actually have to run the country. This Labor mob are treating it as such. They're fixating on commentary, rhetoric and spin rather than providing the country with real solutions that address the crisis that surrounds us. Labor said they have a plan. Now they look like a deer in the headlights. Australians are crying out for leadership and direction from their government. Labor don't seem to realise that they're at the helm. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">In this country the cost of living is the No. 1 concern for people right now. It's the issue that is putting immense pressure on hardworking Australians who are just trying to pay the bills. It affects everyone. Yet this government seem to be more fixated on giving their union mates a Christmas present rather than providing a reprieve for the people who need it.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The broken promises are mounting, and Labor just doesn't seem to care. On budget night this Labor government walked away from a commitment to reduce every household's energy bills by $275—a promise they repeated over 97 times. It was not a slip of the tongue—97 times. Instead, the government have given us a 56 per cent increase in power prices. Those are not my words; they're the government's words. Power bill help is not in the budget. It's a broken promise.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Here are a few more things the government has promised: cheaper mortgages—ba-bow!—and no changes to franking credits—ba-bow!—and cheaper energy prices and cheaper electricity prices—and we've heard that's not going to happen; ba-bow!—and stage 3 tax cuts. They're having a little play around with that. They can't even agree about that amongst themselves—ba-bow! And no new multi-employer bargaining laws. After the fiasco this morning, that has come through as well—ba-bow! It's unbelievable. The Australian people are starting to wonder whether the government even understand the problems they are facing. There are no solutions and no plans. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Since the budget was announced we've seen annual inflation hit 7.3 per cent—the highest level in more than three decades. Homeowners with mortgages are feeling overwhelmed with these extraordinary extra payments. Already a family with a $750,000 mortgage is paying $1,200 extra every month, compared to May this year. During the election campaign the Prime Minister stood up and said that Labor had a plan for cheaper mortgages. Then in October we had the budget. This was Labor's opportunity to put ink on the promises they committed to in the election campaign, yet these promises were missing from the pages. There was zero physical strategy and there were no economic solutions. Even Julia Gillard's former economist has said this budget does not put downward pressure on inflation. The government are hoping the RBA will do their work for them. </span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian people have the right to feel let down. They have the right to feel misled. They're the ones who are burdened with increased pressure on their day-to-day bills without any leadership from their government. The government said to us before the polls, 'No-one held back, no-one left behind.' Now, six months on, all we have is a disgracefully long list of broken promises. But you need to give credit where credit's due. They remembered to keep one promise, and that is to the unions. They have lined the unions' pockets because the unions have given them $100 million. At least they have looked after someone. They're being looked after, after all, and they've just been repaid by this appalling fair work sticky tape legislation that is not fair at all. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Meanwhile, the students, the mums and dads, the aspiring homeowners, the mortgage payers, the taxpayers and the young professionals are being left behind to struggle with the cost of living that is going up, up and up. Labor said they had a plan to bring down the cost of living. Now they don't. It's been six months, so get your act together and give us a plan for the sake of all Australians. Do your job. </span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Claydon</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  Thank you. I have no doubt Hansard will be anxiously awaiting your written notes for some assistance on spelling the sound effects. </span>
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                <page.no>101</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>248181</name.id>
                <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>101</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Scrymgour, Marion MP</name>
              <name.id>F2S</name.id>
              <electorate>Lingiari</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="F2S" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms SCRYMGOUR</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lingiari</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:07</span>):  I was going to say that I don't have the same sound effects as the member opposite! I rise to speak about my fantastic electorate of Lingiari, and I think it's a bit rich of the opposition to now care about the cost of living and the cost of Australian mortgages. But I want to quickly touch on the contribution by the member for Riverina. I do acknowledge the work that was done in the two years of COVID, but there was no acknowledgment of all of the organisations, the frontline doctors and nurses and the Aboriginal health services that worked tirelessly in the area to get COVID under control. While the government played a role, there certainly has to be a lot of acknowledgment of those frontline workers. I know that the member for Robertson and other people on this side of the House did a lot in that time. Perhaps if the opposition could have managed the economy, formed an energy policy or even kept an eye on rising inflation, we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I know that in my electorate of Lingiari, people will find the opposition statement particularly hypocritical. For 10 years the opposition had a chance to invest in Lingiari and the Northern Territory, and they didn't. In just six months Labor has shown it is a trustworthy government that delivers for Lingiari. This is not something the former government could have said. Labor has been in power for six months—six months in which we've begun the long, hard work of cleaning up the absolute waste and mismanagement of the previous coalition government. As the opposition well knows, we are facing challenging global economic headwinds. Major economies around the world are struggling with the cost of inflation, and responsible action from government is needed. The most recent federal budget is a targeted and responsible budget that delivers on our election commitments. We are delivering on our promises to get wages moving, we are delivering on our promise for better vocational education and we are delivering an historic agreement with states and territories to deliver one million new homes for Australians. This will include 40,000 social and affordable houses. This will increase the housing stock around the country. To match this, Labor also brought forward our Regional First Home Buyer Guarantee. In just six short weeks, hundreds of Australians have already taken advantage of the guarantee. We are also working hard on implementing our Help to Buy Scheme, which will lower the cost of mortgages.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">What have the Liberals had to say on this scheme? Nothing but criticism. It's good to see that the opposition is now willing to work with us on lowering the cost of mortgages for Australian people. The former government had a decade to address the housing supply crisis and make homes and mortgages cheaper. They didn't. Labor will do what the former government couldn't and we will step up to the plate on housing.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">For my electorate of Lingiari this will be critical. We need more homes built for people, not just in the cities but out bush in our communities and in our regional towns. Unlike the previous government, this Labor government cares about Territorians. This Labor government cares about our regional towns. It cares about the bush. Labor took to the election a commitment of $100 million for immediate investment in homelands. Labor is delivering on this promise. Labor took the $120 million Central Australia plan to the election, and we are delivering it. This plan is a lifeline for Mparntwe Alice Springs, which saw nothing but neglect from the coalition government.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We are delivering better roads and better connectivity for our communities and investing in jobs in our regions. That's what Labor governments do. They deliver for the people of the Northern Territory. And I am working every day in making sure that I work with local government, the Territory government and the federal government, together with traditional owners, to look at land availability for housing. This is what it's all about: practical measures that will address housing issues in my electorate, not just paying lip-service to these issues and ignoring matters on the ground in my electorate. Thank you.</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>102</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Stevens, James MP</name>
              <name.id>176304</name.id>
              <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="176304" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr STEVENS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Sturt</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:12</span>):  Well, it has been a tough couple of weeks for anyone who holds a mortgage—or any loan, frankly—within our economy. Two weeks ago we had the federal budget and then a little over a week later the Reserve Bank made their decision to increase interest rates by another 25 basis points. Both documents had updated macroeconomic forecasts. A consistent pattern seems to be emerging where, each time forecasts are updated, the outlook on inflation looks worse and worse. The Reserve Bank now predicts that inflation is going to peak at eight per cent. Recently the ABS statistics for the September quarter had inflation running at 7.3 per cent. So if people are feeling that things are tough now, unfortunately the Reserve Bank and the budget papers are predicting that it is only going to get tougher.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We know that as inflation increases a lot of terrible things happen in our economy. But when it comes to this motion, when it comes to mortgages and particularly homeowners, there are two significant impacts of inflation. The first is the real-value destruction of the value of the asset, because the market is certainly not moving up at all. The market is moving down, but even if it was staying the same, if inflation is running at eight per cent then the value of that asset is decreasing by that amount, if its value isn't changing with that amount.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Even more significant is that as inflation goes up the Reserve Bank needs to fight that from a monetary policy point of view. Ordinarily you would hope that the government would equally do so from a fiscal point of view. On the monetary side, that means increasing interest rates. They've gone up consistently, at every meeting of the Reserve Bank since May, and unfortunately most commentators are predicting that they will continue to go up. There's a meeting in a few weeks, in the first week of December, and then of course the RBA won't meet in January, but they'll start meeting again from February. One commentator indicated today that he thinks there'll be four to five more interest rate rises and that the cash rate will go to 4.1 per cent. That means add at least three per cent for what the retail rate will be—interest rates at over seven per cent for the average homeowner. This is a devastating outlook if you've got a mortgage. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Let's not forget that most people would have locked in a fixed rate mortgage for around three years, but, when that mortgage matures, they're probably going from that rate, which was based off a cash rate of 0.1 per cent, as it was until May, and they'll be refinancing with an increase of, potentially, four per cent in their interest rate. That is the outlook for mortgagees in this country. It's also the outlook for anyone who borrows money. It's the outlook for businesses. The cost of capital in our economy is going up dramatically. In light of all that, in the budget two weeks ago we saw no attempt from the government whatsoever to provide any fiscal policy medicine to the challenge of inflation in our economy. Not only are they leaving the entirety of the job to the Reserve Bank; they making it worse by adding $115 billion of new expenditure in this budget, which is only pumping more money from the government into an economy that is already overheating. It's predicted, in the government's own budget papers, for inflation to peak at eight per cent at least.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">So we have a government that is not providing any help to the Reserve Bank. In fact, they're making the Reserve Bank's job even harder. What we know is that, as the Reserve Bank is continuing to increase interest rates, that is the responsibility of a government that is not providing any fiscal policy support to the Reserve Bank's monetary policy changes that they have to make month after month to combat inflation. We must defeat inflation. It is vital. It destroys wealth, and the people it hurts the most are those that have the tightest fixed incomes, who've got no ability in their household budget to make changes to accommodate these growing costs. Fighting inflation is critical. Not helping the Reserve Bank is what the government have done in this budget, and they will be held to account for it. As your mortgage goes up, like every other price on the economy, it's the Albanese government that will be held to account and be held responsible by the voters for that.</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>103</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chesters, Lisa MP</name>
              <name.id>249710</name.id>
              <electorate>Bendigo</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249710" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CHESTERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bendigo</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:17</span>):  I thought to myself when I was asked to speak on this MPI: 'Geez, I must have upset the whip this week.' I'm last to speak on the MPI on Thursday, and then I read the actual MPI, written by the member for Hume, and I thought, 'I've really upset the whip this week.' We all know that the member for Hume, the shadow Treasurer, has absolutely no credibility when it comes to actually representing what our government is doing. He has form for misrepresenting information all the time, as he has done in this very simple MPI.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The policy that Labor announced at the election and where they're trying to draw this broken promise from is our plan, the Help to Buy, which will assist Australians to buy homes with smaller deposits, smaller mortgages and smaller mortgage repayments. That was our policy. It's a complex policy. You actually have to read the detail of how we will achieve that. Clearly, the member for Hume did not read it when he was writing this MPI.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Mortgages are going up. Absolutely. And we knew that when we were in opposition. That's why we actually drafted policies like the Help to Buy that will assist Australians with purchasing a home, meaning that they will have smaller deposits and smaller mortgages and smaller mortgage repayments. That's why we came up with policies to help address that. For the first time in a long time, first home buyers are entering the market less and less. The generation known as the millennials are less likely to own a home than their grandparents. It's a problem that we've inherited but a problem that we're working to address, with programs like the Help to Buy program and the program to help people in my region, the regional homebuyers grant, which is helping people into their first home.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">What happened under the previous government cannot be ignored when it comes to mortgages. I can remember, like most can remember, the Reserve Bank Governor pleading with the previous government to do something. The only lever that they had to try and help our economy was to cut interest rates. But back then they warned us and said, 'What we cut will eventually have to go up.' They pleaded with the government to do something about the economic situation that we're in, but all the previous government did was make things worse. They super-sized and boosted areas that didn't need to be boosted—for example, the homebuilding sector. They like to try and blame this side for the supply problem that we have in terms of materials, but it started under their government through their policy.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">What we have today in this MPI is a desperate opposition trying to peg its failures on our government. We do feel for all Australians whose mortgages are going up—we really do understand the pressures—and that's why in our budget there are a number of other cost-alleviating measures that we introduced. Cheaper child care will help these families if they've got children in child care, making child care cheaper for 95 per cent of Australian families. We're making sure we're doing what we can to keep inflation down. We've introduced a bill that has passed the House around cheaper medicines. That is another way we're helping people with the cost of living. These are some of the measures that our government is implementing.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'd really like to suggest to the opposition to take this process seriously. Enough with the games and enough with the rhetoric, particularly in relation to MPIs. Our time in this place is precious, and we should use it debating facts and not debating the rhetoric that they've put forward. When parliament comes back, I say to them to do better so that we can have a genuine debate about the economy, not one based upon a loose string of ideas. Take responsibility for what you did in your term of government.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="248181" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Ms Claydon</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  The discussion has now concluded.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>103</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>248181</name.id>
                <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>103</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">BILLS</span>
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          <title>Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Reform (Closing the Hole in the Ozone Layer) Bill 2022, Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas (Import Levy) Amendment Bill 2022, Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas (Manufacture Levy) Amendment Bill 2022</title>
          <page.no>103</page.no>
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              <a href="r6918" type="Bill">
                <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Reform (Closing the Hole in the Ozone Layer) Bill 2022</span>
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              </a>
              <a href="r6921" type="Bill">
                <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas (Import Levy) Amendment Bill 2022</span>
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              <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas (Manufacture Levy) Amendment Bill 2022</span>
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          <subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>103</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubSubDebate">Second Reading</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Cognate debate.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Consideration resumed of the motion:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">That this bill be now read a second time.</span>
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          <speech>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>103</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Perrett, Graham Douglas MP</name>
                <name.id>HVP</name.id>
                <electorate>Moreton</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            </talk.start>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">
                    <a href="HVP" type="MemberSpeech">
                      <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr PERRETT</span>
                    </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moreton</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:21</span>):  Before I was rudely interrupted by question time and a so-called MPI, I was informing all of Australia about that great moment in history when politicians, governments and scientists all came together to address the problem of the ozone holes, which are now healing at the rate of one to three per cent a decade, where politicians listened to scientists and responded accordingly. By the 2030s, the hole in the Northern Hemisphere will have completely vanished, and the Southern Hemisphere hole should disappear by the 2060s. This is incredible news, but it's also frustrating to know that the same world with the same scientists has not been able to unite as effectively over climate change.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm telling this great story today because the success of the Montreal Protocol holds lessons for today's efforts to confront dangerous climate change. Vigorous leadership by Ronald Reagan, the actor; and Margaret Thatcher, a trained chemist, were crucial during the negotiations on the Montreal treaty. The protocol was designed to be flexible so that more ozone-depleting substances could be phased out by later amendments. Developing countries were also provided with incentives and institutional support to meet their compliance targets. I state that again, because there has been a little bit of controversy from those opposite about that idea of helping developing countries when it comes to dealing with a science problem.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">But perhaps the most important lesson comes from the fact that the globe sees the need for action even when the science was not 100 per cent conclusive. Sean Davis, a climate scientist at the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, reminds us:</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Small">… we don't need absolute certainty to act. When Montreal was signed, we were less certain then of the risks from CFCs than we are now of the risks from greenhouse gas emissions.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The adoption of the Montreal Protocol was a turning point in environmental history. It also showed that, when science and political willpower join forces, the results can change the world today and deliver a better tomorrow for our children. You cannot have a better story of hope than that.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia has always been at the forefront of efforts to protect the ozone layer. Under the Hawke government, Australia had a strong program to protect the ozone layer and manage synthetic greenhouse gases stemming from the Montreal Protocol. It's an interesting point to note that, through protection of the ozone layer, the Montreal Protocol has done more for climate protection than any other measures so far. Our nation's work to heal the ozone layer is also helping us meet the Albanese government's emissions target of 43 per cent by 2030 and to meet our commitments under the Paris Agreement.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">This package of legislation before the House is aimed at improving the effectiveness and efficiency of the Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Program. Ever since the ozone crisis emerged, this has been one of our most important pieces of environmental policy. It regulates the manufacture, import, export, use and disposal of ozone-depleting substances and synthetic greenhouse gases. I know that because I've got a sister who's an electrician, and even in country Queensland she has to deal with these gases appropriately when taking out refrigerators and air conditioners. This implements our international obligations under the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia has a strong program to protect the ozone layer and to manage synthetic greenhouse gases, and we need to keep this strong. After years—years!—of delay on climate policy and scientists being attacked by government ministers, and even by Prime Ministers, and after experiencing natural disasters in my own electorate and in electorates around Australia, all aggravated by global warming, Australians now, in 2022, want and demand real action. That's why one of the first pieces of legislation the Albanese government brought to this parliament was our legislation to increase Australia's climate ambition.</span>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">We are the 12th-largest economy in a world of around 200 countries—the 12th largest. We are the 55th-largest country by population. So if not us, who? How can we, as a global leader—the nation that was essential in forming the United Nations, led by Doc Evatt, a Labor leader—look poorer and smaller countries in the eye and say, 'You need to do more when it comes to responding to dangerous climate change,' if we don't do our bit? In fact, as a Labor member of parliament, I say we should be world leaders, and I'm from a party of government, not a poseur party that has protests as a political business model. You know those parties that have been around for decades, who harvest clicks and deliver absolutely nothing to their members? That is not the Labor way. That is not the way of a party of government.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">These measures, which a Labor government has brought to the parliament, are another example of what we can practically do to protect our climate and meet our ambitious emissions reduction targets, and take all of Australia with us. Australia has an established innovative product scheme, which collects used refrigerants and turns their potent greenhouse gases into harmless salty water. As I mentioned, my sister the electrician deals with this process in country Queensland. All tradies understand it. These bills will make Australia's program even stronger.</span>
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                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The measures will reduce administrative burdens on businesses and make the legislation easier to understand, reducing the opportunities for unintentional non-compliance. It will also introduce measures to modernise and strengthen the enforcement powers. As the saying goes, you govern for all but you also need to have regulations for the few rogues out there that might not be doing the right thing. The ozone protection and synthetic greenhouse gases bills will continue to provide protection for our environment and human health, and play a strong role in Australia's action on climate change.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">It's not often that I stand in the parliament of Australia and thank people like Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher and Mikhail Gorbachev all at the same time and say their environmental leadership is what helped save the planet. So Thatcher and Reagan, politicians not renowned for their left-wing activities—although it's fair to say Ronald Reagan was a trade union leader; he led the Screen Actors Guild for a while—stepped up, listened to the scientists before the science was settled and responded appropriately. So we do know that with the right leadership, with the right politicians, the world can do the right thing and Australia, as a significant player on the world stage, needs to do its bit. And in light of our leading role in the Pacific, we especially need to show our Pacific neighbours that we are a proud part of Oceania, that we will do what is right by our neighbours to make sure that a wealthy country like Australia is doing the right thing when it comes to ozone, when responding to dangerous climate change.</span>
                </p>
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                  <span class="HPS-Normal">The ozone protection and synthetic greenhouse gas bills of 2022 are not spectacular pieces of legislation on one level, but they show what scientists and politicians can do when they work in concert. I commend the legislation to the House.</span>
                </p>
                <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                  <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate interrupted.</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>ADJOURNMENT</title>
        <page.no>105</page.no>
        <type>ADJOURNMENT</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">ADJOURNMENT</span>
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              <span style="font-weight:bold;">The SPEAKER:</span>  It being 4.30 pm, I propose the question:</span>
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            <span class="HPS-Small">That the House do now adjourn.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Berowra Electorate</title>
          <page.no>105</page.no>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>105</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Leeser, Julian MP</name>
              <name.id>109556</name.id>
              <electorate>Berowra</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr LEESER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Berowra</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:30</span>):  I rise today to congratulate St Stephen's Anglican Church in Normanhurst on their centenary. I was honoured to join members of St Stephen's for their centenary service and celebrations. More than 550 members of our community gathered together to celebrate the life of a church institution that's been vital to so many. The centenary service was addressed by the Anglican archbishop Kanishka Raffel. I want to acknowledge the leadership of St Stephen's, including Senior Minister Baden Stace; Assistant Minister Peter Hughes; Ministers Karl Bonner, Chris Jones, Josh Vallentine and Jess Donohue; and the parish administrator, Felicity Stead. I look forward to the fine contributions of St Stephen's church over the next century.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In 1969, members of the then Normanhurst Methodist Church produced and performed Gilbert and Sullivan's <span style="font-style:italic;">Trial by Jury</span> for the second half of a local church concert. Six years later, the Normanhurst Uniting Church Musical Society was born and has become a cornerstone of our community, spreading joy through art. It's never too early to introduce children to the joys of musical theatre. We took our two young children to see their first show since COVID—a concert called <span style="font-style:italic;">Songs </span><span style="font-style:italic;">That Go Like T</span><span style="font-style:italic;">his</span>. I want to acknowledge the society's president, Mel Hogan; vice-president, Jess Ferraro; the committee members, Kent Blackmore, Ian Barker, Ian Wesley, Matt Lee, Ed Corbett, Lyn Drabsch; and the amazing cast of Leah Procter, Abbey Fyffe, Laura Fisher, Dominic Augimeri, Kent Blackmore, John Hogan, Jess Ferraro, Jennifer Nash, Georgia Kokkoris, Warren Fisher, Angus Stewart and Piper Hogan, as well as the crew and musicians of the society, for a fine performance. I look forward to many more performances at the Normanhurst Uniting Church Musical Society for years to come.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to put on record the worthy initiatives of some budding leaders in my electorate. Earlier this year, I received a formal letter from the student leadership team at Cherrybrook Public School. When these young leaders noticed the flags at their school were in disrepair, they requested three new flags for their school: an Australian flag, an Aboriginal flag and a Torres Strait Islander flag. When I visited Cherrybrook to present the flags to the school, to their leaders Lana Vukasovic, Cohen Freeland, Moses Chan and Maggie Huang, I applauded their initiative. I asked the years 5 and 6 cohorts tough questions about the flags—about who designed them and when—and I have to say I was so impressed with the knowledge of those students. They knew answers about our flags that I don't think most adults would know. I want to acknowledge the amazing teachers at Cherrybrook Public School and, in particular, their principal, Harris Vassila, and Deputy Principals Glen Lakeman and Rebecca Jager for inviting me to present those flags.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Local small businesses are the heart and soul of our community. Small businesses create employment and provide unique goods and services for our community. Small-business people take a risk and seize an opportunity to grow an idea and provide for their families and the families of their employees. Two things help make a great business: a great business owner and a great team. It's always nice to take the opportunity to celebrate their success and highlight their achievements. That's why I was pleased to attend this year's Hornsby Ku-ring-gai Local Business Awards, where I presented some of the awards.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to acknowledge and congratulate the most recent award winners from our community: artist Kim Neil of Hornsby Heights for outstanding antiques, arts, crafts and gifts; Sydney Oyster Farm Tours of Brooklyn for outstanding tourism services; Donna Westwood's business, Westwood Conveyancing, of Hornsby, for being an outstanding sole proprietor; Ramsay Health Plus at Mount Wilga for their outstanding health improvement services; Cameron Harrison's Suncamper Motorhomes of Thornleigh for their outstanding new and used motor vehicles; Harris Farm Markets in Pennant Hills Marketplace for outstanding fresh food and produce; and Heritage House Childcare and Early Learning Centre in Cherrybrook for their outstanding care. Congratulations to all winners and businesses nominated for the 2022 Local Business Awards. It's so important that we shop local and support our community.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Probus clubs are an excellent way for retirees to make social connections in our local community. I want to acknowledge the Asquith Probus Club, which celebrated its 14th birthday last month. I was fortunate to have been invited to speak at the event at which over 100 members of the community came together to celebrate Probus Day, the United Nations International Day of Older Persons and, of course, Asquith Probus Club's birthday. I want to thank the president, John Davies, and Vice President Sandra Death for the invitation to speak and the honour of marking the occasion by blowing out the candles on the birthday cake. I want to thank Barry Willick, who oversees membership and has been with the club for 14 years. Impressively, of the 150 founding members of the club, 38 are still active members attending almost every meeting. Finally, I want to acknowledge the committee members: Pam Slater, Angus Dougaall, Jim Jeffries, Mal Steel, Judy Thompson and Vicki McPherson for their dedication. I wish many more years of success to the Asquith Mixed Probus Club.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I am very fortunate to have in my community a series of wonderful community organisations who achieve amazing things in the community and who celebrate important milestones and years of service. It is important that I place on record in this House the wonderful work that so many in our community do to bolster the spirit in our community for years and years to come.</span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Pearce Electorate: Small Business</title>
          <page.no>106</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Pearce Electorate: Small Business</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>106</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Roberts, Tracey MP</name>
              <name.id>157125</name.id>
              <electorate>Pearce</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms ROBERTS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Pearce</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:35</span>):  I would like to take this opportunity to recognise and support small business in my electorate of Pearce. Small businesses are often referred to as the heart of our local economy. When you buy local, your dollar stays in your community and helps local development. For example, we all know that a restaurant buying ingredients from local producers or markets, using a local finance adviser and hiring a local interior or graphic designer builds cooperative relationships that help the whole local business community prosper.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Small businesses are an important part of our communities; they're a place to gather, they create work, they have a wonderful impact on community ambience and often offer full-time, part-time and job-share opportunities, apprenticeships and traineeships. Smaller businesses have the opportunity to manufacture and source locally, and they can be as diverse, unique or personal as they choose to be—and the intimacy of shopping with a small business cannot be understated.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">After a very difficult 2½ years due to COVID-19, it is more important than ever to give small local businesses our support. I love to visit businesses in my electorate and will pop into any small shop I see along my travels, often purchasing different and unique items as gifts or as donations for door prizes, hampers or raffles to support my local community groups—a win-win solution.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I had the pleasure of attending the fabulous Wanneroo Business Association annual business awards last weekend, and I acknowledge the hardworking newly elected president, Mr Steve Windsor. This event gives local businesses in my electorate not only a chance of celebration and success but also allows businesses to benchmark their progress and to review their performance year after year.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I seek permission, Mr Speaker, to bring to my desk the work of a local business, Adarsh Australia. It reads, 'A future made here; that's Labor's vision for Australia.' Adarsh Australia won the 2022 business of the year award sponsored by Ertech Holdings and other local businesses. Adarsh Australia also won the 2022 Innovator of the Year Award.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge Mr Faz Pollard, the owner of Adarsh Australia, who is the epitome of a small-business owner. He is community minded, thoughtful, intuitive and thorough. Faz's business, Adarsh Australia, is a parts manufacturer, fabricator and importer. But it pivoted to provide hospital-grade PPE for our doctors, nurses and clinicians when we needed it most during the pandemic, and still does so in the current climate. They set up their Landsdale office at the beginning of the pandemic to provide medical PPE and medical shields. It was all manual to begin with and then they got cobots and manufacturing lines to automate the processes. Six people work at Adarsh's Landsdale based medical office, headed up by lead engineer Lindsay Wood. A further 24 are based at the business headquarters in Malaga, Western Australia.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Adarsh Australia is one of the many incredible stories of local business forced to pivot during the pandemic, and pivot they most certainly did. I have known Faz since I was Mayor of the City of Wanneroo. I have observed this local business and I have seen it thrive under Faz's care and meticulous dedication. Faz even travelled from Perth to Canberra for my first speech here in parliament earlier this year, and I thank him for his energy, his enthusiasm and his commitment to local business.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm also going to acknowledge the other winners, as this is a great opportunity to showcase those within our community who often put everything on the line and into their local business to open their dream. Other winners of the Wanneroo Business Association awards were Elite Physio &amp; Exercise for best business with 15 employee and over, and best business with over five and under 15 employees was Safe Central. There are a number of different businesses that deserve so much recognition and appreciation from us in our community. The Customer Service Excellence award went to Grace Insurance. The Business Technology award went to Redi Software. The Mayor's Business Leader award was sponsored by the City of Wanneroo, and the winner was Adam Burling from Safe Central.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I reiterate the absolute importance of our small businesses within our community. I thank them for all that they do in support of so many sporting groups and community groups, and I have to say that, without a doubt, we would be lost without them. </span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Aircraft Noise</title>
          <page.no>107</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Aircraft Noise</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>107</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Watson-Brown, Elizabeth MP</name>
              <name.id>300127</name.id>
              <electorate>Ryan</electorate>
              <party>AG</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms WATSON-BROWN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Ryan</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:40</span>):  I've had countless people from my electorate, from as far out as Upper Brookfield all the way in to Indooroopilly, get in touch with my office every week to tell me how badly flight noise is affecting their lives. People across Brisbane are impacted. If you're not living under a flight path, you might not realise what it's actually like. It's hard to imagine the impact this has on your life. In a survey conducted by the Brisbane Flight Path Community Alliance, 74 per cent of respondents indicated that they've suffered mental health impacts because of unrelenting flight noise. Imagine having low flights over your place at 11 pm and at 2 am, at 80 or more decibels—enough to wake you up. Imagine that happening every night. Imagine, perhaps, you have young children that are being consistently woken up. Residents in Upper Brookfield who use rainwater tanks have also raised with me worries about the impact of pollution in their water from low-flying planes from Archerfield.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The media likes to say, 'Look, if you don't want to experience flight noise, don't buy a place under a flight path.' Most of the people affected in Ryan had bought their homes well before the new parallel runway at Brisbane Airport was built and the new flight paths came along. In fact, locals were directly lied to about the impacts of the new runway. Likewise, flights from Archerfield have increased in recent months so the problem is actually getting worse.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's important, I think, to understand what's going on here. This is the result of a number of major structural issues. Firstly, with the Brisbane Airport Corporation being privatised back in 1997—a Keating decision carried out by Howard—the airport is now run for profit, not for community benefit. By the way it makes no sense to privatise an asset like an airport. No amount of competition will result from it that could drive efficiency. Add to this problem the fact that Airservices Australia, the regulator for air travel, was corporatised in 1997, meaning that it acts like a private corporation. Airservices Australia now relies on fees paid by private airline corporations like Qantas and Virgin. Regulatory capture! Then add BAC's donations to both the major parties. Put all this together, and you start to get the picture of a completely dysfunctional regulatory framework, although it's a very functional framework if you're in the airport business.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I note that there's currently yet another consultation with the community taking place in Brisbane right now. I've got to say that I've been to some of these, and they're hardly consultative. Forgive me if I share the community's cynicism towards this consultation. The community has been loud and clear about its preferred solutions for a long time now. They don't need more consultation; they need someone to take action. Firstly, introduce a cap on the number of flights coming in and out of Brisbane Airport so the problem doesn't worsen. Next, introduce a curfew from, let's say, 10 pm to 6 am, so people can be guaranteed a decent night's sleep. Sydney airport has this. It makes absolutely no sense that Brisbane Airport can't, too. In a turn of events that will shock no-one, ASA's Post Implementation Review Advisory Forum just today came out with a long and tortured list of reasons why, counterintuitively, a curfew would somehow increase flight noise at night. If Airservices can't design a curfew that works, that's a reflection on them and their competence, not on the community's wish for a good night's sleep. Finally, institute a complete redesign of the flight paths, not a couple of piecemeal changes, with more flights going over the bay.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Labor government could just legislate this now. If this doesn't happen, locals have said they're ready to take up protest action. The Greens and I will be there to support them. Longer term, we have to restructure the whole way air travel is regulated. We should re-nationalise BAC and overhaul and wind back corporatisation of ASA, so we can have genuine democratic oversight on this important industry and so people can be put before profits. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">At the same time, we should build high-speed rail to reduce our reliance on air travel, while also reducing the enormous emissions that come from it. I supported that bill recently. As I've noted in previous speeches, though, it's something that Labor are dragging their feet on and may well end up with a similarly corporatised structure. </span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Public Broadcasting, Ukraine</title>
          <page.no>108</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Public Broadcasting</span>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Ukraine</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>108</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Payne, Alicia MP</name>
              <name.id>144732</name.id>
              <electorate>Canberra</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
          </talk.text>
        </talk>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Mental Health: First Responders</title>
          <page.no>108</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Mental Health: First Responders</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>108</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Andrews, Karen MP</name>
              <name.id>230886</name.id>
              <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="230886" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mrs ANDREWS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mc</span><span class="HPS-Electorate">Pherson</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:50</span>):  Our emergency responders are the go-to people for our communities' safety and resilience at a time of crisis. When we experience floods, bushfires and other emergency situations, our first responders are who we rely on. But this type of work comes at a huge cost to them and to their families. Day in, day out, walking into the unknown and encountering traumatising and life-risking situations isn't easy, and there is a huge mental health toll.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">When we were in government, we recognised the need to provide standalone services specifically tailored to emergency responders' needs, particularly following the Black Summer bushfires. Fortem Australia, a charity, was one of the organisations selected, through a competitive tender, to deliver its tailored mental health and wellbeing programs for first responders, as a result of those bushfires. During the March budget process, the need to scale up Fortem's services for a national program to be delivered across Australia was identified, and funding was allocated. Labor's Minister for Emergency Management, Senator Murray Watt, has repeatedly tried to muddy the waters about this funding. But it is clearly listed in the March Budget Paper No. 2, on page 159: </span>
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              <p class="HPS-SmallBullet" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-SmallBullet">$10.0 million over 2 years from 2021-22 for a national program run by Fortem Australia to provide psychological support, wellbeing activities and training in maintaining mental health for first responders involved in natural disaster settings </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's right there in black and white in the 2022-23 budget that was tabled in this place back in March. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The convention, when there is a change of government after an election, is that what is budgeted and announced is continued in the coming financial year. It's done for peace of mind for service providers, and for continuity of crucial programs identified at the most senior levels of government as a priority. This allows a funding recipient to do their job and get on with delivering vital services. In Fortem's case, they were expanding to multiple regional areas to provide their services to more emergency services personnel—specifically in Townsville, Ballina, Albury-Wodonga, Gippsland, Dubbo, Nowra, Newcastle, Sunshine Coast, Darwin, Launceston and Perth. After protracted discussions with the Labor government, Fortem have been advised that the maximum they will receive is just $2.5 million of the budgeted $10 million.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor won the election, and the new emergency services minister was sworn in in June. It's their prerogative to make changes via their update to the budget. But Senator Watt should have the courage to admit that this was a deliberate decision to rip funding from our first responders—at a time when we see floods and emergency incidents across multiple states. Without their budgeted funding, Fortem won't be able to continue to provide their crucial services beyond the end of this year. This is a time of high need. As we head into the summer months, I'm deeply concerned that we may see more natural disasters and more pressure heaped onto our emergency personnel. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm astounded that Labor thinks this is a fair or appropriate decision. Even more puzzling is the fact that the money is literally sitting there, but Senator Watt has suddenly decided that another competitive tender is required for the remainder of Fortem's funding. This is despite the fact that he sat in Senate estimates less than two weeks ago and robustly defended the fact that no competitive tender was required or appropriate for Labor's own election commitment of a grant of over $38 million to another organisation. By Senator Watt's own admission, Fortem do a tremendous job in delivering a vital service, and they have a stellar track record. A competitive tender process will take many months to finalise, and it hasn't even started.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In the meantime, come 1 January there will be no specialised tailored services available to emergency personnel because of Senator Watt's callousness. The money is there, the services are needed, the emergency personnel have earned and deserve our support. What has been allowed to happen in Labor's budget is a national disgrace, and this cut to wellbeing and mental health services for emergency first responders needs to be fixed immediately. Speaker, I seek leave to table the pages from Budget Paper No. 2 where this funding is listed. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Leave not granted.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Workplace Relations</title>
          <page.no>109</page.no>
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              <page.no>109</page.no>
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              <name role="metadata">Claydon, Sharon MP</name>
              <name.id>248181</name.id>
              <electorate>Newcastle</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  <a href="248181" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CLAYDON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Newcastle</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Deputy Speaker</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">16:55</span>):  This week the Albanese Labor government passed through this House of Representatives the all-important Respect@Work legislation. This is great news for Australian women, great news for our nation, because everyone has the right to a safe and respectful workplace. Sexual harassment is not inevitable, it is preventable. The Respect@Work bill will move Australia forward in our efforts to prevent workplace sexual harassment from even happening in the first place. The <span style="font-style:italic;">Respect@Work</span> report was commissioned and written by Kate Jenkins. It was the outcome of an inquiry examining the nature and prevalence of sexual harassment in Australian workplaces, the drivers of that harassment and the measures to address and prevent sexual harassment. The report made 55 recommendations. It was directed to all levels of government and the private sector for policy and legislative reforms to prevent and address workplace sexual harassment. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The former Liberal government sat on that report for almost a year. Then, if it wasn't failure enough, they refused to implement many of the key recommendations. Australian women rightly said, 'Enough is enough', took to the streets, marched for justice and made vital demands on the Liberal government, including the implementation of all 55 recommendations of the <span style="font-style:italic;">Respect</span><span style="font-style:italic;">@</span><span style="font-style:italic;">Work</span> report. Those opposite had their fingers in their ears and their arms firmly folded. They stood in this parliament and said that these women, that these survivors, should be glad that their protest on the front lawn wasn't met with force. We all remember that reference. I remember how bad I as a woman sitting in this chamber felt when the former Prime Minister stood and uttered those words having just returned from the front lawn of Parliament House. It wasn't about how bad I felt because millions of Australian women felt the same about how the Prime Minister dealt with this issue.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The coalition didn't know the meaning of respect in 2021, and maybe they still don't. When they were in government, they refused to implement positive duties on employers to prevent sexual harassment at work, and once again this week those opposite introduced amendments to the Labor government's Respect@Work bill in order to water down those positive duties. They have proved once again that they don't care about safe and respectful workplaces, and they don't care about how women carry that burden in this nation. The Albanese Labor government committed to implementing all 55 of those recommendations of the<span style="font-style:italic;"> Respect@Work</span> report. We said that we would do that in full as a matter of priority, and that's why we saw that legislation before the House this week. That's why the majority of members of this House, knowing full well the importance of that legislation, voted to support it. It saddened me that members opposite could not do so. I'm not sure what lessons have been learned, but I would have hoped that, if nothing else, it would have been to listen to what women had to say.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Over the past five years one in three people have experienced sexual harassment at work, with women experiencing higher rates of harassment than men. That is shameful. The Respect@Work bill that the Labor government passed this week through the House is a crucial part of our important work to progress gender equality. We know that achieving women's economic equality includes making sure that women are safe at work. Sexual harassment is a serious and pervasive issue that affects all industries and all professions. Sexual harassment is by no means inevitable. It is preventable, and this government will work to ensure it is addressed. This legislation is important but long overdue. Everyone should feel safe at work, and gender equality is now at the very heart of this government's decision-making. I couldn't be more proud than I am to be part of a Labor government in this place with the majority of its ranks, 52 per cent of its ranks, made up of women. That is something that we on this side of the House should and are proud of but only because it makes sure that we make better decisions for this nation.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Debate adjourned.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
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                  </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">House adjourned at 17:00</span>
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                  <a href="" type="">Thursday, 10 November 2022</a>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">The </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">(</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Claydon</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">)</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                  </span>took the chair at 09:41, a division having been called in the House of Representatives.</span>
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            <a href="Federation Chamber" type="">Thursday, 10 November 2022</a>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">The </span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">(</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms Claydon</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">)</span>
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            </span>took the chair at 09:41, a division having been called in the House of Representatives.</span>
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        <title>CONSTITUENCY STATEMENTS</title>
        <page.no>111</page.no>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">CONSTITUENCY STATEMENTS</span>
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          <title>Canning Electorate: Infrastructure</title>
          <page.no>111</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Canning Electorate: Infrastructure</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>111</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Hastie, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>260805</name.id>
              <electorate>Canning</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="260805" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr HASTIE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Canning</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:41</span>):  It didn't take long for the Albanese government to take a sledgehammer to one of the most important infrastructure projects in Canning. It has been only six months since the election, and Labor has put the Pinjarra heavy haulage deviation on the backburner. We are only six months into the Albanese government, and they are delaying a project that will take trucks and heavy vehicles out of the historic Pinjarra township. It only took six months for Labor to show its true colours. We all know the Prime Minister and Labor have given up on the people of Canning, but delaying the start of this important infrastructure is appalling.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The shire of Murray and the people of my electorate have supported my fight to fund the Pinjarra heavy haulage deviation for years now. Back in 2017, 84 per cent of the shire of Murray electors voted yes in a referendum for the deviation. Why? Because more than 690 trucks pass through the Pinjarra township every day and the deviation will get them out of town, making the community safer and the transit easier for truckies. With the people of Pinjarra and the Peel region backing me every step of the way, we secured $200 million from the former coalition government to get this project on the road, but now Labor has hit the brakes, and work won't start until at least 2026.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The people of Canning, though, have been here before. They know that Labor is kicking this critical project into the long grass so the Prime Minister's razor gangs can quietly cut it. But I know something the Prime Minister does not: we won't take this lying down. During the last parliamentary recess, I was in Pinjarra and I saw with my own eyes a heavy load passing through town; I saw firsthand how traffic is brought to a standstill; and I saw the hazards faced by the families of Pinjarra, who battle immense semitrailers and road-borne mining equipment just to get their kids to school. We've also secured new business in the township, including renovating the historic Exchange Hotel, which will reopen soon. Pinjarra will become a great weekend location—a Fremantle down in the heart of Peel.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The people of Pinjarra are angry. They are frustrated, as I am, that projects that will make our roads safer are being pushed out and then cut. How typical is this of Labor? Just weeks ago, Premier Mark McGowan made a rare visit to Pinjarra with the Minister for Transport and Planning, Rita Saffioti, and the Pinjarra state MP, Robyn Clarke—who has remained silent on this—to announce that construction on the deviation would begin in 2024. But where is Mark McGowan and where is Robyn Clarke now that the project has been kicked into the long grass? He's run a million miles, and she's run a million miles. It's not good enough for them to turn up for a photo opportunity and take credit for a road that we delivered the funding for. The people of the region trusted Mark McGowan and Robyn Clarke to fight for our community. They trusted Anthony Albanese to deliver, but they have been let down. I call on the Prime Minister to reverse this appalling decision and get this project off the ground as quickly as possible.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>FIFA World Cup</title>
          <page.no>111</page.no>
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              <page.no>111</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Watts, Tim MP</name>
              <name.id>193430</name.id>
              <electorate>Gellibrand</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                  <a href="193430" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WATTS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Gellibrand</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:44</span>):  We're less than a fortnight away from Australia's first game in the FIFA 2022 World Cup, and this week I was really proud to see the announcement of the Socceroos 26-man squad for the tournament. It was a squad that reflected modern Australia—confident, diverse and connected with every corner of the globe. It was particularly significant to see a record four African Australian players selected in the squad: Awer Mabil, Garang Kuol, Thomas Deng and Keanu Baccus.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">As the Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs, I've been working to reinvigorate Australia's relationship with African nations, and a big part of Australia's connection with the African continent is the half a million Australians of African heritage who make a remarkable contribution to our nation. Over the next month, this contribution is going to be in the spotlight in the form of these four young Aussies on the biggest stage of all, in the biggest sporting tournament in the world.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The excitement machine, Garang Kuol, at only 18 years of age, is the youngest man ever selected to play for Australia in the World Cup. Kuol is a devastating attacking player, scoring in just five minutes after his A-League debut for the Central Coast Mariners before quickly signing for Newcastle in the premier league. Thomas Deng made his division III debut with the Western Eagles in my patch in Melbourne's west before going on to captain the Olyroos and to win player of the match in their famous 2-0 win over Argentina at the Tokyo Olympics, just down the road from where he now plays in the J.League for Niigata. Keanu Baccus rose to the elite soccer ranks via the Western Sydney Wanderers before signing with the Scottish premiership, where his coach at St Mirren has declared that everyone in the town of Paisley in St Mirren will be supporting the Socceroos in the World Cup as a result.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But I admit that my favourite player is Awer Mabil. Awer not only pulled an Aloisi for the Socceroos, kicking a winning penalty against Peru to qualify the Socceroos for the World Cup but he has been a genuine humanitarian, co-founding Barefoot to Boots, the Australian based NGO supporting refugees in camps like Kakuma in north-western Kenya, where Mabil and Thomas Deng's family sought refuge for years before coming to Australia. I was thrilled to see Barefoot to Boots work firsthand when I visited Kakuma in 2018 and made a delivery of football kits donated by the soccer clubs in my electorate in Melbourne's West. We should celebrate these young Australians for their extraordinary achievement, not just for making it to the pinnacle of their profession but for doing so while overcoming such enormous challenges.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>African people's connections to Australia go back well over 200 years and they tell a remarkable story of tenacity in the face of hardship. Our continents and our peoples are connected, but Australia has not always engaged with African countries as deeply or as knowledgeably as we could. I'm trying to turn that around. For the next month, the one field that all Australians will be focused on will be the pitch that the Socceroos will be playing on in Qatar and the four African Australian Socceroos who will be doing us proud. Kuol, Mabil, Deng, Baccus will be representing more than just the Socceroos in Qatar; together, they represent modern Australia for all the world to see. <span style="font-style:italic;">(Time expired)</span></span>
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      <subdebate.1>
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          <title>Energy</title>
          <page.no>112</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Energy</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>112</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Gillespie, David MP</name>
              <name.id>72184</name.id>
              <electorate>Lyne</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
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              <first.speech />
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                  <a href="72184" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">GILLESPIE</span> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lyne</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:47</span>):  There is a an enormous challenge confronting Australian households and businesses—that is, the skyrocketing cost of electricity. Households are really feeling the pinch of direct electricity price increases, despite the Prime Minister's outrageous promise that he has broken many times, that prices would go down by $275. Local businesses in my electorate, whether it has four or 20 or 53 employees, they are all the same—their businesses run on electricity and it is a major business cost. Cafe's, coffee shops, mechanics, panel shops, local manufacturers, steel fabricators, retail, medical services, big abattoirs, transport companies are all under pressure, as are supermarkets and the whole refrigerated supply chain because electricity delivers refrigeration. Just as running your fridges, your air-conditioners, your TVs and your computers use electricity, so too do the big energy users in a modern digital world. The cloud runs on oodles and oodles of energy. The expansion of the cloud is being limited because cloud centres need oodles energy. Whether you look at Ireland or England or Australia, it is the same. Many of them are turning to installing diesel generators so they can expand the capacity of their data centres.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Solar and wind will be part of our energy mix, like they are, but we need to realise the costs associated with integrating renewables in the grid. The short lifespan and all the extra grid and ancillary services are what makes the price of electricity at your power plug. Yes, it is cheaper at the top of a mountain but the energy from that wind turbine or that solar farm has to go through the grid. The grid is being eaten away in a technical sense because there's too much variable renewable energy. The grid can't cope. That's why the costs are going up. What used to be cheap baseload is now being told to turn off under the national electricity market rules and regulations, so their cheap efficiency is vanishing.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">What we can do is educate Australia about the economics, the viability and the plug-and-play nature of nuclear power plants. Australia has all these bans at state and federal level based on fear and misconceptions. It's up to us—because we have to deliver the energy and the availability and the affordability for the nation—to educate people. Many of your union members have worked out what we've worked out, which is—<span style="font-style:italic;">(Time </span><span style="font-style:italic;">expired)</span></span>
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        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Calwell Electorate: United Khalsa Hockey Club, Dougall, Ms Gina</title>
          <page.no>112</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Calwell Electorate: United Khalsa Hockey Club</span>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Dougall, Ms Gina</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>112</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Vamvakinou, Maria MP</name>
              <name.id>00AMT</name.id>
              <electorate>Calwell</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="00AMT" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms VAMVAKINOU</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Calwell</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:50</span>):  I rise to acknowledge two very different community events which took place in my electorate in recent weeks. The first was the end-of-season awards presentation of the United Khalsa Hockey Club, which I attended just a couple of weeks ago. This vibrant youth sporting club runs out of Craigieburn, in the northern part of my electorate, and serves a community of mostly Sikh families. It was an absolute delight to witness the enthusiasm of all the young hockey players—from as young as the under 10s through to the under 17s—and hear from many of them about the difference that organised sport plays in their lives. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Coach Inderjeet Singh Sandhu and his team of volunteer team managers constantly teach the young players about the importance of consistency, dedication to improvement, doing their best and self-confidence. The club includes both boys and girls and young men and young women in their teams, which are not divided on gender lines. With a stick in hand and training that emphasises teamwork, community service and good character, everybody can and does play hockey together. Both mums and dads contribute as umpires, team managers and club administrators, providing strong role models for the next generation of leaders. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">On the theme of strong leaders, I want to acknowledge a noteworthy event that takes place tomorrow night, which is the celebration of 20 years of service by Gina Dougall, CEO of the Banksia Gardens Community Services. Banksia Gardens is a dynamic neighbourhood house located in Broadmeadows in the southern end of my electorate. Gina Dougall has been at the helm for almost as long as I have been the federal member for Calwell, so we've worked together for quite a significant period of time. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Gina is a powerhouse of a community leader—inspiring, encouraging, energetic and innovative. She has built an incredible team of people, and together they have transformed Banksia Gardens into one of the largest neighbourhood houses in Victoria, with a suite of award-winning programs that challenge poverty, injustice and disadvantage in a radical and effective way. These programs include the youth justice partnership; Project REAL; the Northern Centre for Excellence in School Engagement; Good People Act Now, a youth-led action for gender equity; Aiming High, which supports aspiring secondary school students; and Towards Equality 2020 &amp; Beyond, supporting grassroots women's groups.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Gina is one of the best known community activists within the city of Hume, contributing to numerous boards, committees and organisations as well as undertaking the incredible work she does leading Banksia Gardens. It is not common for someone to remain in such a challenging position in the community sector for so long, so I am absolutely delighted to congratulate Gina Dougall on her 20-year commitment to our community, which we both know and love and spend a lot of our working lives in. Congratulations Gina, and here's to the next 20 years.</span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Moore Electorate: North Shore Country Club and Residents Association</title>
          <page.no>113</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Moore Electorate: North Shore Country Club and Residents Association</span>
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          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>113</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Goodenough, Ian MP</name>
              <name.id>74046</name.id>
              <electorate>Moore</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="74046" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr GOODENOUGH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Moore</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Second Deputy Speaker</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:53</span>):  On behalf of the North Shore Country Club and Residents Association Inc., I wish to place on the parliamentary record my strong support for plans to redevelop the facility as a community hub which will be accessible to all residents. The hub will be built on the existing community base of more than 600 residents through a program of community activities and events including health and wellbeing programs, tennis, pickleball, fitness, tai chi and yoga. At a time when budget constraints make funding for community facilities extremely competitive, I have been working closely with members of the committee, including Phil Vinciullo, James Wild, John Ingrams, Larry Hirsch, and the state member for Hillarys, Caitlin Collins MLA, to raise community awareness of the project, highlight the need for this facility in our community and pursue funding sources. I organised a petition which has collected over 1,000 signatures, demonstrating strong local support. The community hub concept has also received support from champion Wimbledon tennis player and Moore resident Matt Ebden.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The North Shore estate in Kallaroo was developed over 40 years ago. At the heart of the suburb is a small community facility built around a clubhouse, including tennis courts and catering for a thriving local community. The facility has long since outgrown its capacity, and the local residents association has advanced the proposal to extend and redevelop the ageing facilities to create a new not-for-profit community hub. Extensive research has been undertaken to ascertain community needs, culminating in a strategic plan for the next five years, including indicative building plans for the redevelopment of the existing facility.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The community hub recently hosted the popular Markets by the Sea event, bringing market stalls to the community with a day full of entertainment which was well attended by hundreds of local families. A redeveloped North Shore community hub will be run by the community for the community. Together with strong support from funding commitments from both the City of Joondalup and the WA state government, a funding contribution from the federal government of $3 million is necessary to make this landmark project a reality. The North Shore community hub redevelopment has significant merit. I wish to formally place on record my strong support for this project. I have written to the Minister for Sport on behalf of the residents association to progress this initiative in the budget process.</span>
              </p>
            </body>
          </talk.text>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Youth Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>113</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Youth Voice in Parliament</span>
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          </body>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>113</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wilson, Josh MP</name>
              <name.id>265970</name.id>
              <electorate>Fremantle</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="265970" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr JOSH WILSON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fremantle</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">09:56</span>):  Today I'm glad to bring the voices of young people in my electorate into this place. As part of the Youth Voice in Parliament campaign, young people across Australia were invited to prepare a short speech on their vision for our future, to be delivered by their member of parliament. I want to commend Ashleigh Streeter-Jones of Raise our Voice on her powerful work in this campaign and note that, as a result of her advocacy, more than 80 of my colleagues in this House and the other place are speaking on behalf of young people from their parts of Australia.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">A divi</span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">sion having been called in the House of Representatives—</span>
                </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="text-align:center;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sitting suspended from </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">09</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">:</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">57</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;"> to </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">10</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">:</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">12</span>
                </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="265970" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr JOSH WILSON:</span>
                  </a>  My office received a number of excellent speeches from writers between the ages of 13 and 21 on topics including health care, disability access and the environment. I can tell you it was a very difficult choice to make, but the speech I've chosen to deliver in this place was written by 16-year-old Amelia Turk, who lives in Fremantle and is in Year 11 at John Curtin College of the Arts, which I attended a long time ago.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Amelia already has a resume that's probably longer than mine. She's spoken in the WA parliament, served as a youth board member for NGO Millennium Kids and attended as a delegate the International Cooperation Forum in Geneva and the Stockholm+50 international meeting.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">These are the words and vision of Amelia Turk:</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">It's 2072 and COP77 is being held in Australia.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The world is in awe, trying to comprehend the feat that Australia has achieved.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">It started with a change of heart, then a set of strict and ambitious targets, and then the change to achieve those targets. Australia is now a leading nation, a nation admired for taking action when it was called for.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">My name is Amelia Turk, I am 16, I live in Fremantle, WA, and this is my dream.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">My dream is about the future but it is also about today, and the time in between.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">If you do not act today, my dream is unlikely to become reality.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">Australia's environment is steadily deteriorating, the State of the Environment Report 2021 confirmed this. It confirmed that we need to take action now. We cannot wait any longer.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">If Australia does not act now, it will be too late.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">If you, the current leaders of Australia, do not act now you will leave this 'dire' environment to us.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">If you do not act now, the future leaders of 2072 will have to deal with the consequences of today's choices, carrying the burden of inaction from half a century earlier.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">I ask you what you would prefer, for my dream to become a reality or the 'dire' outcome to be cemented into our planet and for the consequences to be on show for all the future generations?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's a very, very fair question that Amelia Turk poses. It's a challenge for all of us in this place, and I thank Amelia. I thank all those right around Australia who have participated in the Youth Voices in Parliament initiative and contributed some fine words and some well-conceived visions of how Australia could be in more positive circumstances if we listen to the young people of Australia and do our jobs here.</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>113</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Wilson, Josh MP</name>
                <name.id>265970</name.id>
                <electorate>Fremantle</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Focus HR Business Excellence Awards</title>
          <page.no>114</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Focus HR Business Excellence Awards</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>114</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Hamilton, Garth MP</name>
              <name.id>291387</name.id>
              <electorate>Groom</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="291387" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr HAMILTON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Groom</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:15</span>):  Last Saturday, the Toowoomba business community came together for its night of nights: the Focus HR Business Excellence Awards, organised by the Toowoomba Chamber of Commerce. It's a fantastic and well-earned celebration of our region's business community and a chance for business owners and leaders to reflect on their achievements over the last 12 months. It's no doubt been a challenging year on the back of a couple of challenging years with the pandemic, fires, floods and staff shortages affecting regional Queensland, but we've continued to see our business community locally adapt and overcome. They've successfully worked together under innovative initiatives like the Toowoomba Chamber of Commerce's Food and Agri Network to attract new visitors and investment to the region. I think people in Toowoomba understand better than most that business is an ecosystem, and, the stronger we can make that ecosystem, the greater the benefits are for all.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Turning to the winners, the coveted 2022 Business of the Year Award went to Excavation Equipment, a local business servicing the earthmoving industry. Impressively, they were listed as a finalist in three other categories but ultimately took out the top one. On top of their high-quality work servicing big clients across the nation, they're also well-known for giving back to our local community, supporting a number of charity issues.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">X Factor Plumbing, a proud family-owned operation founded by Karl and Tiffany Ernst, received the 2022 CEO's Award. On the night, Todd Rohl told the crowd that he'd picked X Factor Plumbing because they displayed the drive and passion of what it means to be a small business owner. He said their application of the award reminded him—</span>
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                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">A division having been called in the House of Representatives—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sitting suspended from </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">10</span>
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                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">27</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="291387" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr HAMILTON:</span>
                  </a>  Hogans Family Jewellers were inducted into the Hall of Fame of the Toowoomba Chamber of Commerce at their Business Excellence Awards last Saturday night. It's fantastic recognition of a great Toowoomba business.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Hogans's story is the story of Toowoomba. After establishing in Leeton and Griffith in New South Wales in 1945, Jack and Madeline Hogan moved to the fantastic fertile ground of Toowoomba to commence trading in 1953. All six of their children worked in the store. We are now down to Lachie Hogan, the third generation, running the store in Toowoomba. They're experiencing what Toowoomba is experiencing at large—growth. After 50 years at the one location they're now expanding next door to 241 Margaret Street. The multimillion-dollar expansion will be open in the next two weeks. Their growth is representative of what's happening in our region.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">They are training and bringing in experience. Just this year they trained both the Queensland apprentice of the year and the Queensland junior apprentice of the year. They focus on building those skills, bringing them to the regions and giving us the quality workforce we need. Very importantly, they're exporting. Hogans now have over 50 per cent of their business going outside of Toowoomba. We see with our airports and with Inland Rail coming to us opportunities as a region to really expand the great products produced in Toowoomba. It is a great demonstration of why our region is such a focal point for local business, why we're growing and why we're thriving.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I congratulate all the winners. I offer special congratulations to Hogans Family Jewellers.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>114</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Hamilton, Garth MP</name>
                <name.id>291387</name.id>
                <electorate>Groom</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Raise Our Voice Australia</title>
          <page.no>115</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Raise Our Voice Australia</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>115</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Aly, Anne MP</name>
              <name.id>13050</name.id>
              <electorate>Cowan</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                  <a href="13050" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr ALY</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Cowan</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for Early Childhood Education and Minister for Youth</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:28</span>):  I'd like to deliver speeches written by some young people in Cowan as part of the Raise Our Voice program. The first speech is by Liora Fletcher in response to the question: what should Australia's new parliament accomplish? I am actually very honoured to deliver this speech in this place on behalf of Liora. She says:</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Small">As a 21-year-old woman, I am grateful for this opportunity to speak about topics I believe are important. Having said this, I am aware I am not the only one with visions of how I would like Australia's governing body to look and this is a very good thing. Without the diversity of voices, the new Parliament cannot be truly representative of all Australians.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">For this reason, it is absolutely crucial that the new Parliament enshrines the voices of First Nations peoples in the Constitution to enable an empowered voice in the social, economic and spiritual matters which directly affect them.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The Law Council of Australia describes this constitutionally enshrined voice as a manifestation of the right to self-determination, entitling people to have control over their destiny and to be treated respectfully.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">This change would be a positive step towards Reconciliation, allowing a First Nations body to advise Federal Parliament on matters that disproportionately affect Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples including; Native Title, housing, heritage protection, employment and health. It makes sense for the people who have the best understanding of the challenges facing their families and communities to have a say in how to best address these.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">It is important to note that we are currently facing a climate crisis and as recommended by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, consulting with Indigenous peoples can give rise to invaluable natural resource management strategies to mitigate climate disasters. There is no better time for cultural collaboration than now. An excellent example of this is Indigenous knowledges of cultural burn offs to prevent catastrophe during bushfire season. We have seen the consequences of not implementing these burn offs and knowledges too many times.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Small" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Small">The Parliament should take action and pass legislation to hold a referendum and change the Constitution and ensure an enshrined First Nations voice which cannot be undone.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;&#xA;          text-indent:0pt;&#xA;        ">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Thank you, Liora. I am proud to be able to read your words in parliament and to assure you that this government takes your voice seriously and takes the measures that you've suggested seriously. We will be taking this to a referendum. Liora, I look forward to meeting you and discussing these issues further.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Israel</title>
          <page.no>115</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Israel</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>115</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ananda-Rajah, Michelle MP</name>
              <name.id>290544</name.id>
              <electorate>Higgins</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="290544" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr ANANDA-RAJAH</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Higgins</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:31</span>):  The power of place cannot be understated to a people who were unmoored and adrift for thousands of years. The 14 million Jewish diaspora, of which I have 6,500 in Higgins, are anchored to Israel. If Israel is the homeland, then Jerusalem is its beating heart. At the confluence of Christianity, Islam and Judaism, Jerusalem is significant not just to the Jewish people but to humanity. My Jewish constituents are hurt following the announcement of our government's position with respect to Jerusalem. Falling on a Jewish holiday only added insult to injury, for which I am sorry.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">A departure from our government's usual consultative approach was unfortunate because it heaped additional distress onto a community that is grappling with rising levels of antisemitism. There is no place for antisemitism. To feel threatened while walking the streets or studying at university or being inexplicably passed over for promotion are the spillover effects of hate. Confronting antisemitism is our collective responsibility. Actions matter. The teaching of the IHRA definition of antisemitism in our workplaces, schools, universities and sporting clubs is a good place to start. Education also demands an understanding of apartheid. I grew up in Zambia when apartheid was in full swing. Even as a child, I knew full well what it meant for millions of people with the same skin colour as me. I rile at descriptors of Israel in that light.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Australia's ties with Israel trace back to its birth. Labor Attorney-General in the Curtin government, Doc Evatt, played a key role in establishing the state of Israel. His contribution led to the 1947 UN Partition Plan for Palestine, which Australia was the first country to vote yes on. Having a homeland is good, but it is not enough. Peace and security are prerequisites to thriving, and this is at the heart of the Albanese government's position. We will support, not undermine, negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian people, because peace is a worthy prize. The stability peace brings allows the tree of life to send deep its roots and grow branches that stretch into the sky, providing refuge for all.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Labor has always maintained—as have successive governments over 70 years, including the Gorton, Howard, Abbott and Turnbull governments—that Jerusalem is a final status issue that should be resolved as part of peace negotiations. Labor does not shuffle embassies around for political expediency, nor does it make foreign policy decisions because there is a by-election to win. That Israel has thrived with so much stacked against it—from a paucity of rainfall and arable land to continuous hostility—is testament to its culture of innovation. It offers us in Australia the blueprint of how to do more with less.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Health Care</title>
          <page.no>116</page.no>
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          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Health Care</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>116</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wilkie, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>C2T</name.id>
              <electorate>Clark</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="C2T" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WILKIE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Clark</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:34</span>):  For how long do Tasmanians have to put up with a health system that is consistently failing to deliver on so many different fronts? Barely a day goes by without constituents relating health horror stories, such as that of a 90-year-old man who spent 3½ hours waiting in agony on the floor for an ambulance to arrive to triage his broken leg and transport him to hospital. His pain and distress grew exponentially as time wore on, with a few Panamax the only relief available until paramedics arrived.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Then there are the parents of a three-year-old boy with autism who had to move interstate at a moment's notice to access the care he needs because it's not available in Tasmania. They couldn't afford to wait up to 18 months to see an allied health professional, as early intervention is crucial. 'The entire industry is in crisis mode,' said the child's mother, who was not only forced to leave behind a senior job in the healthcare sector but also the family's entire support network. </span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">What advice do you suggest we give to the growing number of constituents whose GP has retired and they can't find another practice to take them on, let alone one that bulk bills? As a result, many delay seeing a doctor until their condition worsens and lands them in the already overloaded emergency department. Meanwhile, those healthcare workers at the coalface have struggled through difficult conditions for so long that their goodwill is exhausted. Facing inevitable burnout, they too are forced to move to another state where both the conditions and the pay are so much better.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">While the rollout of Medicare urgent care clinics and reform to the GP sector are clearly welcome, they are just one part of the puzzle. With so many GPs already leaving the sector, and graduates choosing other specialities well ahead of general practice, just who is going to staff these urgent care clinics? What we have is a system that needs rebuilding from the ground up. Without serious reforms in the primary healthcare system, including a long overdue increase in the Medicare rebate, the situation is only going to get worse. Until the Medicare rebate rises, making health care affordable for patients and ensuring GPs achieve pay parity with colleagues working in hospitals, the GP workforce will continue to contract, sick people will continue to wait longer for treatment, and the acute-care system will continue to bear the burden The time has come to implement serious, systemic change, with a particular focus on expanding allied health roles in the community to ease pressure on both the primary and acute-care sectors. Until we do this, these horror stories are set to continue.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  In accordance with standing order 193, the time for members' constituency statements has concluded.</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>116</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">DEPUTY SPEAKER, The</name>
                <name.id>10000</name.id>
                <electorate />
                <party />
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>STATEMENTS</title>
        <page.no>116</page.no>
        <type>STATEMENTS</type>
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          <p class="HPS-Debate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
            <span class="HPS-Debate">STATEMENTS</span>
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      </debate.text>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Australia: Floods</title>
          <page.no>116</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
          <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Australia: Floods</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>116</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Mitchell, Brian MP</name>
              <name.id>129164</name.id>
              <electorate>Lyons</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="129164" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr BRIAN </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">MITCHELL</span> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Lyons</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">10:37</span>):  Like many others in this place, communities in my electorate have recently been dealing with severe weather, storms and flooding. Flooding occurred across the Meander Valley, Northern Midlands, Kentish, Break O'Day and Central Highlands local government municipalities and others. While the weather has eased over recent weeks, the impacts of the floods are ongoing as clean-up and repairs continue. I recently spent time in these communities, including with the Prime Minister, inspecting damage and discussing with communities ways in which the Albanese government can help get things back on track.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We know people need support and we will do everything in our power to help. The Prime Minister spoke in the last sitting in the House about his recent visits to flood-affected areas in Australia, including Deloraine. The Meander River flooded higher and more rapidly than ever before. The people of Deloraine this time had prior warning and, fortunately, through quick action and planning, no human life was lost and families were able to evacuate before waters rose. From my discussions with farmers and primary producers, livestock losses were minimal; though, of course, there was quite a lot of agricultural damage to seeds and new plantings.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Businesses and some houses in Deloraine were badly affected. Mick and the team at Highland Haulage were one of the worst-impacted businesses in the town, with floodwaters entering their warehouse and rising above the height of anyone standing in this place if we were on the ground floor. I spoke with Mick, and all he wants to talk about was how lucky he was compared to others—generous, community-minded, thinking of others before himself. Pictures were shown nationwide of a storage container full of possessions of a family in Deloraine that had floated down the river, such was the strength of these floods. Unfortunately that family lost everything in the container, such was the water damage. The container itself was secured before it hit the bridge in Deloraine which connects the east and west of the town.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Across town at the footy oval the Deloraine Football Club was once again left to clean up after clubrooms were flooded for the third time in 11 years in what are supposedly 100-year floods. This tells us something, which is that climate change is real, the impacts are real and the increasing severity is real. I thank the Prime Minister for visiting the club with me on 19 October, where he heard firsthand the issues that they are facing and what is needed to protect the community from future flood events. I look forward to continuing to work with the club and the council on those plans. Still in the Meander Valley, in Meander and Hadspen, the Meander River and the South Esk River broke their banks, forcing the community to evacuate and do their best to protect property with sandbags and other measures.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">At this point I'd like to highlight the work of the local council, community groups and members of the community for their contribution in response to the floods. Thank you to the council workers, the emergency services workers, the SES and other volunteers who acted tirelessly throughout days and nights to ensure people remained safe and sound. Thanks also to the power workers who work for TasNetworks and Aurora Energy, who keep the power poles active and the electricity on during the worst of weather.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In the Kentish municipality, in the north-west of my electorate, flooding impacted the town of Sheffield and the town of Railton. I joined the former mayor, Tim Wilson—not the former member for Goldstein, people will be relieved to hear—in Sheffield last week to discuss those flood events. We travelled to Railton and visited the local post office. While floodwaters did breach sandbagging attempts and seeped through into the floor, as with most houses in the area, stock and furniture were able to be lifted off the ground beforehand and no great damage was sustained, unlike in earlier floods. While in Kentish I spoke with the mayor about flood mitigation plans that do have federal support. These plans continue to be developed in consultation with the community and it is hoped they can begin soon.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Whilst travelling in the north of my electorate and visiting flood-affected communities, I also headed to the Break O'Day municipality in the north-east where I visited St Helens. There, residents told me about the measures they took to get through the deluge and the floods, and about the impact the flood has had on roads. A journey that would normally take me two hours took six due to landslips, floods and other diversions in the area. Across my electorate, many others found themselves isolated until floodwaters receded. Once I finally arrived in Northern Midlands it was clear too that they had not escaped, with the South Esk River in full flood, breaking its banks and providing a constant threat to neighbouring properties. The township of Poatina continues to be affected, with roads still closed. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It was clear during these visits that the communities have received a great amount of support from locals, their councils and their emergency service authorities and from neighbouring communities who themselves had avoided flood devastation but still wanted to help out their fellow Tasmanians. It was also clear that support was needed from the federal government to help get these communities back on track following these floods. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I was proud to host the Prime Minister and the Minister for Emergency Management, Senator Murray Watt, in Tasmania to witness the effects of these floods firsthand and to meet the people who helped deal with them. The Prime Minister also visited Latrobe in the neighbouring electorate of Braddon. It is why the federal government, in conjunction with the Tasmanian government, announced disaster assistance for flood-impacted communities in Tasmania. In total, 17 local government municipalities are eligible for assistance, including five in Lyons. Assistance is being provided through the jointly funded Commonwealth-state disaster recovery funding arrangements, which provide assistance of up to $1,000 and emergency accommodation assistance for individuals or families who have been directed or advised by a relevant authority to evacuate from residences or have been displaced from their residence due to flooding.</span>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr BRIAN MITCHELL:</span>
                  </a>  I also note that financial institutions offer hardship provisions to delay repayments of loans and mortgages when circumstances such as these do arise.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the other things available to people in my community, other than the disaster recovery funding of $1,000 for families and individuals, is the up to $25,000 for small businesses and primary producers. A number of eligibility criteria do apply. I encourage small businesses and primary producers in my electorate to contact my office, and we can provide the details of how to access those grants.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I would like to take this opportunity to thank the Prime Minister and the Minister for Emergency Management for their visit to these affected communities and for their work in providing support to those who need it most at this time. I am proud to be a member of a government that responds to support communities affected by such significant natural disasters, and I am sorry to say that it looks like we're going to have more of these natural disasters more often and increasingly severely. That's what the experts tell us, and that's certainly what's being borne out by recent events. But that's what being in government is about: providing support and delivering for the community.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'm incredibly proud of the support the Lyons community always shows to each other during tough times, and I'm so thankful that no loss of human life was recorded in Tasmania during these floods. Discussions have already commenced about ways we can further improve flood mitigation and stop these devastating events from taking such a continuous toll on our communities.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Climate change cannot be ignored here. We've been warned about more frequent and severe weather events, and they are happening. They're not happening in the future. They're not being talked about in the future. They are happening right now. They are here. You can't turn a blind eye and pretend it's not real. We had a decade of that nonsense, and it's time to get rid of it and start dealing with the reality we face.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The evidence is in every flooded river, every broken house and every shattered business. I look forward to participating in these discussions and working with all levels, colours and kinds of government. This is across parties. This is not political. We need to find solutions. I look forward to working with everybody that I can to provide better protection and support to local communities.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Tasmanians came out in force during these events to help each other. The support that communities have shown, especially the volunteers—there's nothing in it for them. They turn out day and night in the most appalling weather, and put themselves at risk, to help others in need. That is a testament not just to people in my state and my electorate but to people across the country, none more so than those across regional communities. I know the member for Riverina will agree with me that people in regional communities look out for each other when times are tough, and certainly, with these floods and these disasters, for many communities it has never been tougher. We need to be there for them. This government will be there for them. We are there for them now. We'll never stop making sure that we can do whatever we can to support them in their time of need.</span>
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                <name role="metadata">Mitchell, Brian MP</name>
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              <name role="metadata">McCormack, Michael MP</name>
              <name.id>219646</name.id>
              <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
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                  <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">r McCORMACK</span> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Riverina</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:00</span>):  On some points I do agree with the member for Lyons. The fact is that we need to do more. I'm hoping that the federal government, in conjunction with the states, can do more, particularly when it comes to building the necessary water infrastructure for flood mitigation. Building dams is not just about flood mitigation. There is a great expectation, a great commitment and a great obligation, indeed, on states to get on board with the Commonwealth and build water infrastructure.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I know the New South Wales Premier, Dominic Perrottet, has had a lot to say, as he needs to, about Warragamba Dam. If it is good enough for the people who live in the shadow of Warragamba Dam to have that piece of water infrastructure raised for flood mitigation, it must be good enough for the people who live downstream from Wyangala Dam. Forbes has been flooded, on average, every seven years since 1887, with six of those times, if you count two this year, in the past 12 years. Yet there seems to be some sort of reluctance to commit the necessary funding for Wyangala Dam to be raised by 10 metres, which would provide an additional 650 gigalitres of capacity for that dam. Imagine the agriculture you could grow from 650 gigalitres. But not just that; it would also help in the event of flooding.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We mourned the loss of little Jayden El Jer, just five years old, who was caught up in flash flooding near Tullamore in September. We grieve for his family. We mourn his loss. It serves as a tragic reminder of the ferocity of floods. It serves as a poignant reminder to the fact that we cannot replace human lives lost in these flooding events.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Forbes has a very resilient community. I was pleased that Prime Minister Albanese visited the town, along with Premier Perrottet—in fact, it was Premier Perrottet's second visit; he was there late last year in November with Scott Morrison, then Prime Minister, to look at the situation. Prime Minister Albanese was there on 17 October. He was there with Murray Watt, the Minister for Emergency Management; with me; and with Steph Cooke, who is not only the New South Wales Minister for Emergency Services and Resilience but also, most importantly, the Minister for Flood Recovery. I said to the Premier then that the state needs to come on board and raise Wyangala Dam.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Since that press conference and visit by the Prime Minister and Premier, the Lachlan River at Forbes peaked at 10.67 metres on Saturday 5 November, just below the June 1952 flood level of 10.8 metres. The 1952 flood, I'm reliably told by Bruce Adams, a long time Forbes resident, was a bit of an aberration because they built a levee bank near Red Bend, near the Catholic college there, which built up the water and then the integrity of the new structure gave way and sent almost a tsunami, quite a wave, through the town. That caused a lot of hardship. Of course, it caused the river level, which is generally measured at the Forbes Iron Bridge, to reach a record height. The waters went through the CBD.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This time, again, farmers copped the brunt of it. Many farmers throughout the Riverina and central west, particularly around Forbes and Wagga Wagga, have lost crops. Not so much livestock—they've been able to get livestock to higher ground because of the warnings given—but they've lost a lot of cropping. That's devastating for those farmers, who were hoping for a good season, worried about the fact that the ground—which was already saturated—would prevent them from getting their heavy harvesting gear into the paddocks. To then have their crops waterlogged and ruined is a bitter blow they didn't need.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Murrumbidgee River at Wagga Wagga peaked at 9.72 metres on Friday 4 November. Again, I'm very pleased that state water—and I will give them some credit—got their mathematics right and minimised the flood damage. I know they cop a lot of criticism, and I know a lot of people think that the Blowering and Burrinjuck dams and other water infrastructure are there if not for hydroelectricity then for flood mitigation. We forget sometimes that dams were actually built for irrigators. We forget sometimes that, if they let the water go too soon, there's no water for the irrigation season later in the year. Those irrigators pay handsomely, dearly, for that water. The necessity to let the water go at the right time so as not to upset the irrigators, so as not, perhaps, to cause floods later on, is a fine balance. It's a delicate balance. State water, I have to say, have managed it reasonably well, given the fact that a lot of properties were not inundated.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The levee around North Wagga—it didn't top that important bank. Many people inside the levee at North Wagga were saved, even though they had to be evacuated. That, of course, causes distress. It causes a logistical nightmare and it causes heartache for many, but it's better to evacuate and follow the authorities' orders than to stay at home, refuse to budge and then have your house inundated and potential tragedy. I would urge and encourage people to adhere to the warnings given by our authorities. We're expecting another 60 to 70 millimetres—so the forecast tells us—in the not-too-distant future, potentially even this weekend.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Rocky Walshaw at Forbes and Ben Pickup at Wagga Wagga have been great leaders in these flood events, but people still don't follow instructions. They still drive through floodwaters. They still drive through swollen creeks. They still disobey road signs, which are there for a reason. Local governments don't put signs out closing roads for no good reason. They do it because they care for people. They do it because they want people to stay safe. Yet people still defy logic. They still defy orders given, and then they have to be rescued because they're on the phone ringing 132 500 for the SES or ringing 000 after they get themselves in trouble. It makes no sense.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I do want to pay tribute to some people. So many people have volunteered their time and effort to provide sandbagging. I was doing some, along with Trish and Greg Wright and Janet Thompson at Wagga Wagga. I know the fine staff at Bunnings Wagga Wagga, in their red shirts with little hammers on them, left the shop. No doubt they were given the green light to do so, but they enthusiastically got in there and did it for hour upon hour upon hour. Well done to them. Well done to everybody who volunteered, both at Wagga Wagga and at Forbes. I know Annette St Clair was there.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Let's just say, with all due respect to them: these people are not young. Many of them are not young. They're not as fit as they'd like to be. Yet they were getting out there, hour upon hour, shovelling sand into sandbags for strangers they'll probably never meet, people they'll never know. They were pitching in and doing their bit. In the worst of times, you see the best of people. You see the best of Australians. That mateship quality really shines through.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But there is an expectation on the state to come on board with us and build water infrastructure. Excuses? Forget them! I know they wanted $325 million from the Commonwealth to raise the Wyangala Dam wall. We gave it to them as a loan, which they asked for. Then they wanted a grant. We complied. Then it became $1 billion. Now it's potentially $2 billion. I say: so what! It's an investment in our future. It's an investment in agriculture. It's an investment in not having the Newell Highway closed. It's an investment in making sure that Forbes does not get flooded. They are the forgotten people, at Forbes. They shouldn't put up with being second best. If it's good enough for Warragamba people, who live in the shadow of that fine piece of water infrastructure near Sydney, then it's good enough for Forbes. Let's make sure that—</span>
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                  </a>  Thanks to the volunteers, the first responders, defence personnel, for your help; flood-affected farmers and businesses for your resilience, and I call on governments to fund the Wyangala Dam wall raising right now.</span>
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              <name role="metadata">Phillips, Fiona MP</name>
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              <electorate>Gilmore</electorate>
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                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Gilmore</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:22</span>):  My electorate of Gilmore on the New South Wales South Coast is no stranger to floods. In fact, one of my very first memories as a four -year-old was being evacuated from my family's dairy farm along with community members on the back of a truck into nearby Nowra. Back then I thought it was an adventure, but fast forward half a century and, over the last three-plus years, communities in my electorate have gone through more than 14 declared floods since the bushfires alone. I think it is safe to say that the compounding nature of drought, bushfires, floods and the pandemic has caused an extreme, prolonged fatigue that we have not seen before—flood fatigue, disaster fatigue and recovery fatigue. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We are a resilient lot on the South Coast but even we have our limits on what we can deal with. Fourteen disaster-declared floods, and not every rain event has even been declared a disaster, in a little over three years is about one flood every three or four months. The immediate impact of floods on our community is huge—homes inundated; businesses left to clean up or are ruined; public infrastructure damaged or destroyed; the ongoing strain on livestock; and farmers losing countless stock and watching their paddocks—their livelihoods—turn into soggy grounds and lakes. Every time there is a major flood event, our farmers spring into action, moving their cattle, making sure they are safe and on high ground. It is no easy task but they do it, time and time again.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Damage to cut-off roads is impacting every person who lives in our communities and every single person who visits us. One of the biggest complaints I hear every day from local people is: When are the roads getting fixed? Every time it feels like we have made progress, back we go again with more rain or another flood. This is particularly true for communities who are either completely or partially cut off because of landslides, roads that have either fallen away or are completely covered in debris. The communities of Jamberoo, Kangaroo Valley, Upper Kangaroo River, Burrier, Wattamolla, Woodhill Mountain, Barrengarry, Brogers Creek have been hit particularly hard but, really, the list goes on and on.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">All isolated communities, only one road in and one road out for many of them, at times have been completely cut off, sometimes completely, sometimes with restrictions like load limits or residents only, impacting the lives of local people every day. These areas are absolutely beautiful, but, in many places, the terrain is difficult. Much of the land is farmland, but many people have also developed beautiful Airbnbs up there, or they run other sorts of businesses. There are also a lot of people who have decided that this is the place for them to retire and live among the trees. It is idyllic, but it is now proving somewhat difficult; without road access, even simple things become incredibly difficult.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I have visited many of these communities to hear about the daily impact the landslips are having. I regularly speak with those impacted, and their stories are just heartbreaking. You've got farmers who have had to chopper in feed—paid for out of their own pocket—because they didn't know how else they would feed their stock. These communities have been cut off completely for weeks or months at a time. Even once the roads have partially reopened, the load limits are causing some of the biggest headaches for local farmers. Farmers need heavy equipment to come in and out to allow them to operate—feed, livestock, silage equipment; you name it. Most don't have that equipment just sitting on their properties, so they need to bring it in. When they can't, they can't run their farms. One farmer recently told me he was going to have to walk 30 head of cattle across the slip to move them on. That is a very normal and regular practice for farmers. It's making it extremely difficult for residents to get to work, for kids to get to school and for businesses to operate. It's stifling the local economy—not to mention the fact that it keeps tourists away at a time when they have never been needed more.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But it isn't quite that simple. I've been working closely with the local councils on this, but the logistical operation of getting these roads back open is incredibly difficult. The Australian government has provided millions of dollars in assistance to local councils for repair works under the Disaster Recovery Funding Arrangements, but, with so much complicated damage spread over such a large area, the councils are struggling to get the technical and physical resources needed. That's not to mention the continuous rain, which continues to cause further landslips and further instability. There is no easy answer. I know that our local councils are taking every step necessary to get these roads open as quickly as possible, and I commend them for that, but I can also understand how the slow progress is frustrating for local people.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Even outside of these communities, the rain is playing havoc with our roads. The Shoalhaven has one of the longest local road networks in the country. The constant rain pummelling our roads has left them in an atrocious state. Potholes the size of sinkholes are everywhere, and local people are sick of it. Every time I speak with anyone, the word 'pothole' never takes too long to creep in. On top of the significant funds that have been provided for immediate recovery under the Disaster Recovery Funding Arrangements and the $1 million that was provided to every flood impacted council back in July, I am doing all I can to support repairs to our roads. I am delighted to have delivered, $40 million to help Shoalhaven City Council with local road repairs as part of the federal budget.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian government has also provided a $250 million top-up to the Local Roads and Community Infrastructure Program, taking the total size of the program to $3.25 billion. I know this will make a huge difference to our local councils. Our councils are working through this; they are doing their best, and I thank them for that hard work. Rather than being an issue of money, it's an issue of resources—that pesky worker shortage that we are experiencing nationwide and that I know the councils are working on too. We will get there.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The businesses in Kangaroo Valley have also suffered through a long period of financial strain because of the indirect impact of the floods. The damaged roads, as I mentioned, kept tourists and customers away for months. The circumstances facing this community were unique. For months I called for a targeted small business support program to address these unique circumstances. Those requests fell on deaf ears under the former government, but I was absolutely thrilled to deliver that support in August with the $1 million Kangaroo Valley road closure small business grant. This was so needed and so welcome. I'm really pleased that a lot of local small businesses benefited from this grant, but I was appalled at the very poor way the New South Wales government administered it, with many local businesses, unfortunately, telling me they had missed out because the process was simply too hard. This just isn't good enough, and I have asked the New South Wales minister to fix this. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I will keep doing everything I can to support this wonderful community. We have a long way to go in our flood recovery. We are also still recovering from the bushfires and the pandemic, but I know we will get there. I will continue working closely across our community and across government to ensure that we are getting the help we deserve.</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>121</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Webster, Anne MP</name>
              <name.id>281688</name.id>
              <electorate>Mallee</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                  <a href="281688" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr WEBSTER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Mallee</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:29</span>):  The term 'hero' gets bandied about a lot, but sometimes it is well and truly deserved. The past week and a half of floods that have been impacting the regions of Mallee and lapping at the doors of many communities in Mallee have seen heroes arise. I've heard from people in Charlton still traumatised from the 2011 floods. I've heard from people such as Prue Milgate, who has a farm on the banks of the Loddon River at Serpentine. More than 98 per cent of the Milgate farm was inundated by floods. I've heard from business owners in Bridgewater who have had to rebuild after their shops were affected. Nine of my 12 LGAs are impacted, and there will be more as floodwaters encroach further in the coming weeks.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In these communities, there are heroes, people who stand up for their community no matter what the situation. They just roll up their sleeves and get the work done. They don't want to be known as heroes, though. Mallee people are like that. They're tough and resourceful, but they don't look for the accolades or the praise; they just act in the best interests of their community, people like John McConville, or Mr Donald as he's also known. John is a typical hard worker, and in Donald he has his finger in many pies and on the pulse of the needs of the community. He's the kind of person that doesn't command respect; he simply gets it. After only five minutes talking with him, I know he deserves it. Recently, John led a team of locals to build a levee in the township of Donald that saved businesses and homes from being inundated. He and his team didn't wait for help; they just did it themselves.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In the Gannawarra Shire, Geoff Rollinson is the council's acting CEO. He's also known as Rollo. It's a paid position, but he's going over and above. He's taking the lead, proactively leading his community through some of the toughest times they have faced, places like Kerang, Koondrook, Murrabit, Cohuna, Benjeroop. I spoke with residents there, and they couldn't speak more highly of Rollo. He's someone they can trust. Sometimes local government officers get the rough end of the stick from their communities, but Rollo has earned respect through his actions. In times that require your leaders to step up, Rollo has.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our SES and CFA volunteers along with paid emergency services such as Victoria Police and ambulance officers are also the heroes in this unfolding story. Stretched thin as they are, they consistently continue to put their community above themselves. I sat in a community meeting at Carisbrook a couple of weeks ago for a debrief following their flood event. It was a room full of emotion, and it was local SES commander Darren Cooper, a volunteer himself, facing the brunt of it. Not only were he and his colleagues taking responsibility, as the SES, for the town of Carisbrook; they were also providing SES support for the Central Goldfields Shire region. With limited resources, including a scarcity of operational boots-on-the-ground volunteers, they did their best to ensure their communities were safe.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In Newbridge, amid the sodden ruins of a multimillion-dollar sporting complex, I met three women: Kaye Graham, Colleen Young and Sue Horsley. They are members of the Newbridge Recreation Reserve Committee of Management. While the recreation reserve was hit hard by floods, their strength and optimism was inspirational. Colleen herself proved a heroine in the truest definition, not that she wanted the title, but her actions can only be described as heroic. The night the floods hits Newbridge, they had 40 young men camping by the river on a buck's party. Naturally, these men were all focused on partying, and, as they were in their swags, they were in immediate danger. Colleen ensured they got to higher ground as the floodwaters rose during the night. It is troubling to think what might have happened had she not been there to help these men. As I said at the start of this speech, the term 'hero' does get bandied about a lot, but I have found in Mallee that we have many heroes, and these are just some.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to speak briefly about the currently unfolding flood emergencies going on in the Swan Hill LGA and the Mildura region. We're looking at Swan Hill, Mildura and Robinvale, in fact, hitting major flood levels this week and in the next couple of weeks. Boundary Bend is also expected to exceed major flood levels this Saturday. The last major flood level we had was in 1956. We also had high flood levels in the seventies. This is deeply concerning, but I've got to give all credit to the SES, the CFA and the local councils, of course, who are monitoring these situations, providing recommendations and working with local communities, having local knowledge.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We have a long way to go yet. Some of these floods in the past have taken months to recede. We will have highways closed. We currently have 450 roads in Victoria closed right now. This is creating a headache for transport companies and for locals trying to get to work. Many people can't get to work. I'm really pleased to see both the Victorian government and the federal government providing financial support. I also commend the Minister for Emergency Management, Murray Watt, a Senator for Queensland, for his engagement. I've been able to call him and talk through with him the needs and the funding resources that are required for my nine LGAs. He and his office have been very responsive, and I thank him for that.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">As we go into these next few weeks, I know people in Mildura, Swan Hill and Robinvale are going to be feeling the same anxieties that those in Kerang, Benjeroop, Koondrook and down in Carisbrook have been feeling over this last month and a half. Together, we understand that we will get through this and the supports will be provided. I would encourage anyone in my electorate who is needing support over this next week to contact my office, and we can direct them to the appropriate supports.</span>
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          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>122</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Coulton, Mark Maclean MP</name>
              <name.id>HWN</name.id>
              <electorate>Parkes</electorate>
              <party>NATS</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                  <a href="HWN" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr COULTON</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Parkes</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Chief Nationals W</span><span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">hip</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">11:37</span>):  I rise today in the Australian parliament to speak about the floods that are impacting the eastern side of Australia at the moment. The Parkes electorate encompasses 30 per cent of the Murray-Darling Basin. The easiest way to go through this might be to actually go through the different river systems.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">From the Lachlan River in the southern part of my electorate there's a flood peak heading towards Condobolin at the moment. The water has been coming down through Forbes, the town of Condobolin and further down to Lake Cargelligo. The communities and farmers in that area are bracing for a major flood. The Bogan River, which is normally very small—not more than a depression in the ground—is now adding significantly to the water in the system. The Bogan River starts in and around the back of the town of Parkes and finds its way into the Darling River just east of Bourke. At the moment, it's contributing large amounts. There has been significant flooding along that Bogan system, and crop losses as well.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Macquarie River has been flooded several times. We've seen significant flood damage in and around Dubbo. I had a group of school students from Narromine. They've only just gone back to regular lessons, with kids attending school on the backs of tractors because they can't actually get into town through the floodwater. Further downstream from Narromine, at Warren, they've been poised with extra pumps in place in case the levee bank breaches or overtops. At the moment, the township of Warren has been secure, but there's significant road damage and crop damage in the Macquarie and lower Macquarie area as the water spreads out before it finds its way through the Macquarie Marshes and ultimately into the Barwon-Darling, up between Brewarrina and Walgett.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Then we keep going through to the Castlereagh. As just a bit of trivia, Castlereagh starts flowing east, it flows south, it flows west and it ends up flowing north. It also finds its way into the Barwon-Darling up around Brewarrina. At the moment there is significant flooding. In between these rivers there are creek systems that are spreading out. The full extent of crop losses is not known yet, but it will be in the billions across the area.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">With the Namoi River, houses in Gunnedah have been inundated several times, the village of Carroll has been evacuated, Narrabri has seen flooding in the lower areas and Wee Waa has been isolated for weeks at a time. We are seeing significant crop losses in the Namoi Valley. That flood peak now is west of Wee Waa and it's causing significant harm in that area as it makes its way to Walgett. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Walgett at the moment is completely isolated. I was speaking to the general manager there. Some of the Aboriginal villages on the edge of Walgett are inundated. The houses are on stilts, but there is water under those houses. They are having issues with the sewage pumps in some of those villages. Namoi Village I think is the main one. They have got them restored. But they're watching that very closely in case they have to evacuate those communities. So Walgett is completely surrounded and there are significant crop losses in Come by Chance, Walgett and further west.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">In the Gwydir there is major flooding. It is one of the record floods. I live very close to the Gwydir. It is the biggest flood I've seen in my life. At the moment the Moree Plains Shire are predicting 120,000 hectares of crops lost just in the Moree Plains. Thankfully, the Minister for Emergency Management, Senator Watt, is coming to Moree tomorrow. I am looking forward to letting him not only see first hand the inundation—I think a couple of hundred houses in Moree had water in them—but talk to some of the farmers about crop losses.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">If you move further north towards the border, the Macintyre River is causing significant issues, and it has done for some time. All that water congregates. When you get into the west, towns like Mungindi, Weemelah and Garah are cut off. The issue is that all that water then gets into the Darling system, so we've seen an out-of-bank river at Bourke. The peak has just gone through Tilpa. I've been speaking to the folks at Kallara Station. They've lost thousands of acres of crop that was on the point of harvest, which is devastating for them. There are not many grain growers in the far west, but Kallara Station is a significant operation and it has had major damage.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We are seeing that water work its way down through the system. I have a word of warning. We heard the member for Mallee talking about the flood in Victoria with the Murray system. South Australia needs to be bracing for a major flood. Hopefully, the Murray water makes its way through before the water coming down the Darling gets there, but already houses have been evacuated at Menindee. There are two or three flood peaks coming down the river to Menindee that will put further stress on the system. The lakes are full and are actually overfull in many cases. I flew over them on Sunday on my way to Canberra. There's certainly a lot of water in the far west.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The losses are significant and the inconvenience is great, but in the overall scheme of things in the far west particularly it's probably just what they needed. That refurbishment and replenishment of the far western part of the country, with the Darling spilling out into Talyawalka and other major waterways that haven't seen this sort of inundation for a long time, will really help refresh that area. But there is a lot of hardship attached to it.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to pay tribute to the mayors. There are 18 council areas in my electorate and in all cases the mayors have shown great leadership, and there are the volunteers obviously. In a couple of weeks I will have been in this job for—and I'm looking at the member for Maribyrnong—15 years. I have to say that I think this is the greatest level of cooperation between the three levels of government in a disaster that I've seen. I'm not hearing much complaint about the processes that have been put in place. People have been around long enough to know that they will suffer hardship in a flood. I commend the ministers at all levels, the mayors and the volunteers on the ground, who are doing such a mighty job for such a long time.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is not over. La Nina is predicted to stick around for a bit longer, but I can tell you that the people in my electorate are looking for a bit of sunshine.</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>123</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Shorten, Bill MP</name>
              <name.id>00ATG</name.id>
              <electorate>Maribyrnong</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="00ATG" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr SHORTEN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Maribyrnong</span>—<span class="HPS-MinisterialTitles">Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme and Minister for Government Services</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">14:45</span>):  Australians understand that we now live with the reality of natural disasters dominating our news cycle. Where once upon a time there may have been a season for floods or a season for bushfires, it is now a constant concern. If we only see the coverage of these matters on television, we count ourselves lucky. But as I stand in the parliament of Australia today I am deeply aware and moved by the fact that there are thousands of our fellow Australians who are trying to rebuild after weeks of catastrophic inundation and, indeed, to continue the rebuilding process from previous flood events.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It is true to say that in times of tragedy and crisis, Australians like to believe that we help each other. This is actually true. Adam Lindsay Gordon famously talked about courage in one's own trouble and kindness in another's. This was an ethos that emerged in the 19th century but, I believe, it pleasingly remains true today. Our government believes that this is what we should do. It is our fundamental role to support Australians when they are in need.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">My remarks today initially will be about my department, Services Australia, which has been on the front line of efforts to assist flood-affected communities across Victoria, New South Wales and Tasmania in the most recent events. We activated the Australian government disaster recovery payment and the disaster recovery allowance in response to this September and October flooding. Since then, I can report to Australians that Services Australia has answered more than 22,000 calls for assistance, processed more than 42,000 claims for emergency payments and made payments of almost $44 million to support more than 53,000 Australians. Hundreds of Services Australia staff have been redeployed to help individuals and families get back on their feet. We have had dedicated Commonwealth public servants on the ground at 11 different locations. We have sent mobile service centres—the one-stop-shop Services Australia buses—to Victoria and Tasmania. Staff will stay as long as they are required. Because those impacted by floods often require more than emergency monetary assistance, Services Australia social workers have provided helped almost 2,000 of our fellow Australians dealing with the life-changing consequences of these terrible disasters.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The commitment to help Australians impacted by natural disasters was also reflected in last month's budget. Extra funding and workforce will ensure that Services Australia continues to support the community during emergencies over the next year and its planning and response to future emergencies, because we know that they will come. There is funding for more than 2,100 additional staff in this financial year. This will enable the agency to continue digital customer service delivery and on-the-ground mobile support whenever and wherever Australians need it. There will also be an extra 200 staff recruited to support our customer services safety net Australia wide. These additional staff will go where the need is, including regional and remote Australia, to support customers experiencing vulnerability. Up in the far north, 100 Services Australia staff will be based in Cairns and $2.4 million—courtesy of the lobbying of the formidable member for Lyons—has been allocated to increase service delivery staff and services in Sorrel in Tasmania in our south.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Because we know that natural disasters are a direct consequence of climate change, there was $9.3 million in the budget for Commonwealth climate risk and opportunity management program. This will allow successive governments to improve the policies, programs, services delivered to the Australian community to address the challenges of climate change.</span>
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                  <span style="font-style:italic;">A division having been called in the House of Representatives—</span>
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                  </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sitting suspended from </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">11:49</span>
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                  <a href="00ATG" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Mr SHORTEN:</span>
                  </a>  My own electorate and the neighbouring areas that I have been fortunate and privileged enough to represent for nearly 15 years were amongst the communities to feel the impact of the most recent flooding inundations in Victoria. The Maribyrnong River breached its banks. It will take some time for our area to recover. I visited flood affected areas in the local government areas of Maribyrnong and Moonee Valley on the day of the flooding and the days after. It was actually shocking.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">This sedate river, usually a place of gathering for recreation, exercise, park runs, football and netball, had become a stranger. It was a menacing presence. The river was wide. Mini lakes were created across football ovals and netball fields. The pace of the river, the momentum, was a threat to homes and businesses, lives and livelihoods. The flood high-tide marks, halfway up interior and exterior walls, only tell part of the story. It's the disgusting sludge, it's the debris that covers floors and yards, it's the stench of ruined carpets and furniture that fills the air. The piles of hard rubbish on the footpaths surrounding the houses were a constant reminder on those days and for weeks thereafter of the full extent of the work ahead that is only revealed once the water retreats.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">But I'm pleased to say that, as the water receded, it was replaced by a remarkable determination from the community to triumph over adversity. These were residents, many of whom were affected by the floods themselves, who put everything aside to help their neighbours, especially those who are elderly and those who are not able to get around on their own or without support networks. It's the local school communities at St Margaret's and Moonee Ponds West Primary School reaching out and helping the families of the children enrolled there.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's people like my very good friend Judy Ingram, President of the Friends of the Maribyrnong Valley, a group that's worked to preserve and improve this community asset for more than 35 years. Judy's physical impairments have not prevented her from seeking grants and organising volunteers to plant trees and control weeds along the Maribyrnong River. But all that work was washed away with the flood, covered by a layer of silt and mud. But Judy has told me that she's determined to return the area to the place that locals fell in love with during the pandemic lockdowns: the walking tracks that became a respite from that strange, cloistered existence we found ourselves in; the very lungs of the north-west. Judy and the Friends of the Maribyrnong Valley are working with other community groups and local, state and Commonwealth levels of government because she said that's what's called for in times like this. In Judy's modest words, it's the spirit of Australia.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Darren Symington and his family also felt that spirit of Australia after being flooded out and then, unfortunately, becoming the victim of callous, opportunistic looters. At a time when Darren and his family were legitimately overwhelmed by the enormity of the situation and the body blows, we were able to offer assistance. I can happily report that he and his family are moving into a new rental home very soon. While Darren has said that he wouldn't want to go through another flood, he said the little caring gestures of his neighbours have been something he will hold forever: a chat, an offer of help, those who dropped in food. He said in times of stress he normally loses weight, but he's put on five kilos thanks to one too many Zinger burgers!</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I want to single out his children's teacher, Kim Simmons, from Moonee Ponds West Primary School. I thank you for bringing the plight of Darren and his family to my personal attention so we could all work to help take away some of the burden, so that the parents could go back to being parents to their children, not wondering about what would happen to them. It's the way the community wraps itself around its own that makes the seemingly unbearable bearable.</span>
              </p>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I'd like to acknowledge the CEO of Maribyrnong City Council, Celia Haddock, and her team from the council. I want to acknowledge all the council workers, the Victorian government staff and the member of Victoria Police for working so seamlessly together. I also want to acknowledge Helen Sui, the CEO of Moonee Valley City Council, and her team for the work they do. In particular, I acknowledge again that often on the front line of disasters it's not necessarily the Defence Force who are first in, although they do a great job; it's quite often our modest garbos, council workers and gardeners from the local council depots who are leading the response.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge the Services Australia teams who were swiftly deployed to flood areas, and the wider team for making the claims process so relatively painless. I want to give a special shout-out to the dedicated and skilled team of orange overalled heroes from the Victorian SES. These are people we don't think about when things are going well, but they're the ones we turn to in the hour of our greatest need. They did 60 waterborne rescues in the Maribyrnong area alone on that Friday morning as the river rose very quickly.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">I acknowledge my federal colleague Daniel Mulino, who shares the Maribyrnong River valley representation; Katie Hall, our member for Footscray; Ben Carroll, the member for Niddrie; and Danny Pearson, the member for Essendon. The last two, Ben Carroll and Danny Pearson, are ministers in the state government and diligent in their efforts. I also acknowledge the state member for Melbourne, Ellen Sandell, for reporting issues in that area of the floods. I acknowledge my fantastic electorate staff, who fielded hundreds of calls. To each and every person who volunteered time, money and resources and to every organisation who contributed, thank you.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The floods will keep coming. Cyclones will keep coming. We'll still have to battle bushfires and drought. But also what will keep coming are Adam Lindsay Gordon's famous words: 'Courage in one's own trouble, and kindness in another's.'</span>
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              <talker>
                <page.no>124</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Shorten, Bill MP</name>
                <name.id>00ATG</name.id>
                <electorate>Maribyrnong</electorate>
                <party>ALP</party>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>125</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Tehan, Dan MP</name>
              <name.id>210911</name.id>
              <electorate>Wannon</electorate>
              <party>LP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr TEHAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Wannon</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:05</span>):  I rise to talk on this motion, which commends all those who have helped and supported during the recent flooding and also, I think, needs to call on governments, local, state and federal, to ensure that they provide the much-needed support to local communities for their recovery. The impact of the floods in my electorate was very similar to the impact of the floods in 2011. There have been some exceptions, however. For Skipton, for Lexton and for Lake Goldsmith in particular, what we saw in 2022 was very similar to what we saw in 2011. The resilience of those communities in the way that they have dealt again with flooding has been quite extraordinary. At times like this, communities—and I'm talking about small communities—can go two ways. It can be either every man or woman for themselves or a community coming together, working together, to make sure that they deal together with the impact of the floods. In Lake Goldsmith, in Lexton and in Skipton, that is what we've seen again. As a matter of fact, it is quite inspirational to be able to go to those communities, to meet with those who have been impacted, to meet with those who have helped and supported them during their time of need and to see the camaraderie, to see the bonds of friendship and to see the way that this adversity is being dealt with collectively.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">On the front line, as with all floods, has been the State Emergency Service, coordinating the response and making sure that where preparation has been necessary—where they've had time to prepare—it's been done in the most efficient and effective way possible. This work includes the sandbagging, the warning of residents and, in some instances, the ability to tell residents that they need to leave their households. That is coordinated by the SES, but it includes the CFA, local government and everyone else who is willing to play a part. But the coordination by the SES has been second to none, not only when it comes to Skipton, Lexton and Lake Goldsmith but also where there has been other flooding in my electorate—for instance, in Allansford, very near to Warrnambool, or in Hamilton, where there was flash flooding. There we have seen the emergency services, led by the SES, and then local government and other community organisations coming together to make sure that the impact can be dealt with as well as we can deal with the impact of flooding.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Flooding, though, does leave a real legacy, and that is one of the sad things that we need to continue to remember. And all levels of government—federal, state and local—need to remember this because the water stays a lot longer than the help. The water stays, and the water, in many instances, will rot, from the ground up, houses. We have to make sure that we're there to help and support those who deal with the long-lasting legacy of flood We did it in 2011. We didn't do all the amelioration correctly, though, and we need to look at this now, when it comes to these 2022 floods, because if we don't get that right we're going to see the impact again when the next flood occurs. Whether the amelioration is ensuring that drains are properly cleared and cleaned, whether it's making sure that roadside vegetation which is blocking drains is cleared away, whether it is ensuring that levees are properly completed—all these things need to be looked at and dealt with. We also have to make sure that the preparation begins as soon as the clean-up is over in these communities.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the lasting legacies—and we're seeing this more in Victoria as a result of what didn't occur as it should have in 2011 and what hasn't occurred between then and 2022—is that, where the rains and the flooding have damaged the roads, we have to fix them properly. It is no good and it is a waste of money just doing patch-up jobs. We have to do the job properly. That means real investment in our road network and in doing the job properly. I'll give you a recent example that I've just been made aware of in my electorate, where we've had a brand new patch of road which has since been impacted by a weather event that left potholes. A farmer was able to put his foot into one of the holes, and it went down as far as his hip. That is not fixing a road properly. </span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">There is an article on the front page of the <span style="font-style:italic;">Herald Sun</span> today which says that the cost of repairing the Victorian regional and rural road network will be over $1 billion. I say to the government, you have allocated $2.2 billion to Daniel Andrews's pet rail project, his urban rail link-up, which will probably be built some time by 2050 maybe. It's going to cost, they seem to think, about $150 billion, so I'm not quite sure where the other $73 billion is going to come from. That's the 50-50 component of the federal government. This doesn't have a business case and it hasn't been to Infrastructure Australia. Take that money, that $2.2 billion, that you have allocated in the budget to Dan Andrews's pet rail project, and put it into Victoria's road network. You know that it needs it. And, in doing that, also say to all the contractors that you use: 'We want you to do the job properly. We want you to take your time, put a proper foundation and a proper base into the roads and ensure that we're not going to need to patch them up sometimes only weeks after they've been reopened.' That would be something really practical that would leave a long-lasting legacy from this government to the people of regional and rural Victoria.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">So far, all they've done is rip money out of regional and rural Victoria. In the budget they ripped money out of regional and rural Victoria. This would be a way of saying: 'Sorry, we made a mistake. We shouldn't have done that, we shouldn't have done what we normally do, and that's go after and target regional and rural Victoria. We're not going to do this. It's not our modus operandi under this new government,' even though that's what we're seeing already. Take that $2.2 billion from Dan Andrews's pet rail project and put it into our road network. That, single-handedly, could make a huge difference to our communities because at the moment—and this is my great fear—we've seen a loss of life as a result of these floods. Fortunately, through the great work of SES, CFA, local government and others, we've seen that loss of life minimalised. My real concern is that we're going to see more loss of life as a result of the deteriorating road network right across rural and regional Victoria, and in particular in the seat of Wannon.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">So I say to the government: this has become a serious, serious safety issue. It's no longer something that the Andrews government can just turn a blind eye to. It's not something that the federal government can turn a blind eye to. They need to fix these roads—otherwise, we're going to see more people lose their lives on our roads than we saw in the floods.</span>
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            <talker>
              <page.no>126</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chesters, Lisa MP</name>
              <name.id>249710</name.id>
              <electorate>Bendigo</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CHESTERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bendigo</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:15</span>):  It was a tough day, the day that we were preparing for the floods in central Victoria. The warnings had gone out—and that's one thing that I will say: I cannot recall a premier getting to their feet and giving the emergency services warning: 'This will be a major flood. Homes will be lost. Be prepared.'</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">Even in a town like Bendigo, where we have a network of creeks, we weren't prepared for the volume of water that came down. In the week leading up to it, the notice came out that Lake Eppalock, which is the major water storage in our electorate, was already full. And locals know that, once Lake Eppalock is full, those further downstream are in trouble; once Lake Eppalock is full, there's a lot of water around and it could flood.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">It's rare for Victorians to get floods—I do want to say that loudly—although we are getting more and more of them. People keep talking about floods as being 'once in a hundred years' or 'once in 500 years' events. Well, we've had two once-in-a-hundred-year floods in a decade. So you start to ask yourself: Is this becoming the norm? And is our infrastructure fit for the weather events that we're expecting? I'll say a bit more about that later.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">What I will do now is to say a big thank you and give a shout out to all of our SES units—the SES units of Bendigo, Marong, Heathcote, Kyneton and Castlemaine. I was actually due to catch up with the Castlemaine SES unit on the Wednesday before the big rain events of Thursday and Friday, and of course I rang them to say: 'You're probably really busy today; the last thing you'd need is me popping out.' They were in fact sandbagging. Thousands of sandbags went out to homes and businesses throughout my electorate, and businesses and communities and homeowners are crediting the SES, the early warnings and the sandbagging as being what saved them. Lots of yards and sheds were inundated; lots of roadways and community infrastructure were inundated. The rain and the water came down very quickly, but they disappeared so quickly that a lot of homes were saved. The SES believe that, pretty much, Elmore was saved because of the sandbagging efforts and because the rain and the water were moving so fast.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We have the Campaspe and the Loddon, two major river systems that feed into the Murray River, running through my electorate, and, when you hear of the volumes of water that were coming down across Kyneton and Castlemaine, you do feel for the communities who, to this day, are still in flood. We have a little bit of that guilt, in my electorate, from knowing that the water will leave us and flood communities further downstream.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">I do feel for the member for Mallee. And I feel particularly for the member for Nicholls, whose electorate is entering its fourth week of flood.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We did sustain damage to a number of properties in my electorate in Heathcote and Marong. It's estimated that, in total, around 90 homes across Heathcote have sustained damage in some way. Some of them will need to be knocked down and rebuilt. For some of them, it's outdoor infrastructure and sheds.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">There have been some amazing stories. The SES itself flooded because, when the Campaspe is full, the water comes back up the creeks. We just didn't have a way to get the water out quickly.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">The community of Heathcote is quite resilient. It's about 40 minutes out of Bendigo, and it was actually cut off from Bendigo. In fact, every major highway into Bendigo was cut off during this event. All of them sustained major damage. The township of Heathcote was completely cut off; the bridge at Axedale was washed away. It's the image that many of us have seen—the first image of the impact of the floods. Such was the force of this water. The way in which it damaged major roads is just unbelievable. The residents of Heathcote were on their own. Nobody could get to them. They had to do it themselves, and they did.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The SES flooded, so they moved their entire operation to the CFA, where they ran their command centre to help people during the flood event. They are now continuing to help their community through the recovery. We had the ADF on the ground in Bendigo helping communities not just to set up the relief centre at the Showgrounds—there were 10 ADF members deployed quickly to set up the relief centre—but also to help with the clean-up effort in Heathcote, where we had those homes damaged. There were at least 20 ADF members on the ground on the big clean-up day they had to help remove rubbish.</span>
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                  <span style="font-style:italic;">A div</span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">ision having been called in the House of Representatives—</span>
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                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sitting suspended from 12:21 to 12:32</span>
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      <debateinfo>
        <title>ADJOURNMENT</title>
        <page.no>127</page.no>
        <type>ADJOURNMENT</type>
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            <span class="HPS-Debate">ADJOURNMENT</span>
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              <span style="font-weight:bold;">Ms </span>
              <span style="font-weight:bold;">Thwaites</span>
              <span style="font-weight:bold;">:</span>  I move:</span>
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            <span class="HPS-Small">That the Federation Chamber do now adjourn.</span>
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          <title>Senior Australians</title>
          <page.no>127</page.no>
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              <page.no>127</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Wallace, Andrew MP</name>
              <name.id>265967</name.id>
              <electorate>Fisher</electorate>
              <party>LNP</party>
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                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Mr WALLACE</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Fisher</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:32</span>):  On my tour to Fisher just a few weeks ago, I spoke with local community icon Deb from Witta in the north-west of my electorate. Deb has struggled to find aged-care service providers to deliver some of the most essential services, like house maintenance, health care, personal support, transport and community engagement. These are vital services, which are becoming increasingly more difficult to access, especially if you live in regional or rural Australia. The solution is not to simply pour more money into it, like Labor continues to spout. The public sector, with billions of dollars invested into social care, cannot meet the demands of senior Australians.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">We rely on a vast array of small and medium-sized enterprises committed to quality care and localised support. I think of small businesses in my electorate like Home Care Assistance Sunshine Coast in Caloundra, and I think of service providers like Glasshouse Country Care in Beerwah, who were recently named finalists in the Fisher Community Awards. I want to give a big shout-out here to Kath Wallwork, a finalist for employee of the year, who is making a huge difference to the lives of vulnerable seniors in the hinterland of Fisher. These are groups of talented, hardworking, compassionate people operating local services that make an enormous difference to the lives of senior Australians. They deserve a government that has their back, not just with words but with action. They deserve a government that gets on with the job of slashing red tape and ensuring that quality of outcomes—not endless paper pushing—are front and centre. We did that in government by allowing social care enterprises to start, grow and expand across the country. They deserve a government that believes in addressing the real cost-of-living drivers, ensuring that both companies and clients can meet their expenses without fear of not having enough. That means cutting taxes on essentials like fuel, even as a temporary measure; that means simplifying our tax system without dithering, because Australians ought to keep more of their hard-earned money; that means allowing pensioners and veterans the ability to earn more before their support payments are impacted; that means making it easier for primary producers to grow, sell and transport local produce; that means ensuring reliable and affordable power; that means putting Australian families and their businesses first, at the centre of decision-making, not the unions. And that's the issue.</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">One of the greatest challenges that Australians, particularly in rural and regional Australia, are dealing with relates to senior Australians with aged-care home packages and also people on the NDIS having great difficulties in finding service deliverers. I'm not going to stand here and say the world's gone to custard on this point since May of this year, but these are issues that people, particularly in the bush and in the regions, are pulling their hair out over. They are entitled to get support and they've been assessed for support, but they just can't find the people to deliver those services. It is an invidious problem because the companies and businesses that provide these supports want to go where the populations are, and that is understandable.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Even in regional areas like parts of my electorate of Fisher—such as Conondale, Maleny and Witta—it's very difficult to get businesses that are operating on the coast quite happily to travel out and provide those services in more regional areas. That problem is multiplied by a million when we start talking about people who are really in the bush, such as kids on NDIS plans who can't get support. When I was on the NDIS committee in the previous couple of parliaments this was a real issue, and it's something that government and the opposition really need to work together on to assist families who just can't get those sorts of support services for their loved ones. I'd be happy to work with the government on that point.</span>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Bendigo Blues &amp; Roots Festival</title>
          <page.no>127</page.no>
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              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Bendigo Blues &amp; Roots Festival</span>
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        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>127</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Chesters, Lisa MP</name>
              <name.id>249710</name.id>
              <electorate>Bendigo</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
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          </talk.start>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="249710" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms CHESTERS</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Bendigo</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:37</span>):  The last few years have been incredibly difficult for many, particularly in the state of Victoria, firstly due to the impact of COVID and the disruptions that it had on our lives, and then this year with the flood event that we've had. It's been difficult for lots of business, lots of services and lots of organisations but it's been particularly difficult for our festivals, our creatives and our music scene.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Last weekend was the final Bendigo Blues &amp; Roots Festival. The organisers and founders said that, after a decade, they were moving on. They'd done their bit and they'd loved it, but they were exhausted. A real problem we have in our creatives sector is that quite often the volunteers who organise these wonderful community based festivals, if they don't get funding to put on events, or if they get funding for gigs but not actual wages, do struggle once they hit that 10-year mark. We all love the Bendigo Blues &amp; Roots Festival in Bendigo, its very purpose and the foundation of why it started. I really want to give a shout-out to Amy, Colin and the committee, who, for a decade, have helped deliver this wonderful festival. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It started with a really basic premise. They wanted to bring good, live music back into the heart of Bendigo and pay artists properly so that they could perform and earn a decent wage. Think back to a decade ago to some of the toxic culture that we had in a bit of our night scene in Bendigo. There was jelly wrestling and mud wrestling happening—really awful, distasteful, derogatory events. This festival said: we can be different. We can go out and have fun, but we'll go out to enjoy music.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The festival really focuses on encouraging people of all ages to enjoy music, and last weekend I had great joy in taking my two little toddlers to the cushion concert. It was fun. It was fun to see little people enjoying good music. But one of the key reasons why the festival is wrapping up after 10 years is because, after two years of having to cancel throughout COVID and then the impact of the floods, a lot of their partners were not sure that they wanted to contribute or be involved in the way they previously had. Funding festivals is getting harder as funding is being diverted to flood-recovery activities. Businesses are struggling to host festivals because of insurance costs and because they, too, are struggling to get back up on their feet and find the staff.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Longer term, we really need to look at how we support our live music industry and our creative sector, particularly in the regions. To the ones who are making festivals and concerts happen, good on you, because we know the challenges are against you. Our government has introduced a number of reforms that will really help in supporting the sector to recover, but we need to also rethink how we do festivals.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This is where I do want to give a shout-out to the Bendigo Blues and Roots committee and their plans for next year. Whilst the four-day festival will not be coming back next year, they have organised the Bendigo Blues and Roots into a number of events. There'll be showcase days that will be held at one venue, so it will be like four days of festival over the year as opposed to four days in a row. The Bendigo Blues and Roots tram will still happen. People can still jump on the tram, ride through town and enjoy blues music.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">They will have many blues and roots artists visiting Bendigo and going to some of our smaller towns, and concerts in the park. So we will still get the opportunity to enjoy great music organised by the Bendigo Blues and Roots Festival, but it will be spread out over the year as opposed to all in four days. It's an incredibly innovative way that Amy and Colin are thinking about how it can still achieve the same enjoyment and experience of music, but not the intensity over four days.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">To all the volunteers, to all the organisers, to Amy, to Colin, to their family and to all the sponsors over the decade: thank you what you've done for our town to help us regain our place in the music calendar and rebuild after COVID. It was great to see the town alive last weekend. It was great to see people out and about post the floods and post COVID, not only enjoying each other's company but coming together to enjoy music.</span>
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        </speech>
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      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Environment</title>
          <page.no>128</page.no>
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        <subdebate.text>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Environment</span>
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          </body>
        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>128</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Ryan, Monique MP</name>
              <name.id>297660</name.id>
              <electorate>Kooyong</electorate>
              <party>IND</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="297660" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Dr RYAN</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Kooyong</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:42</span>):  I rise today to speak about gas. This is a complex policy area, but the bottom line is incredibly simple: Australia will blow its carbon emissions budget if gas projects already in the infrastructure pipeline go ahead. We have set this carbon emissions budget, the total emissions that Australia can afford, in our global agreement to curb emissions. It is unconscionable that the possibility of new gas projects is even being entertained by this government, let alone that the infrastructure for those projects be given over $1 billion from the government.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The social licence for taxpayer subsidies for coal, oil and gas has long since expired, particularly at a time of staggering national debt, a grim fiscal outlook and repeated warnings of economic hardship. The Australian public does not want public money to be spent on economically reckless fossil fuel projects and the infrastructure on which those projects rely. This, no doubt, is why Minister Catherine King refuses to admit that the Middle Arm project is unquestionably an expansion of gas production.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">We have to remember that the funding for this project was not this government's idea. It was Barnaby Joyce who announced billions of dollars of funding for the Middle Arm precinct as part of what the Morrison government called the five basins gas plan. It's a peculiar name for an allocation of funding that we're now led to believe is not a subsidy for a gas development. Opening a gasfield deep beneath the land in the Katherine and Tennant Creek area known as the Beetaloo basin was the first cab off the rank for Morrison's critically condemned—</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span class="HPS-OfficeInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</span>  I will just remind the member to use the member's correct title.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="297660" type="MemberContinuation">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberContinuation">Dr RYAN:</span>
                  </a>  I am sorry—the member for Cook's critically condemned and then electorally rejected gas-led recovery. Why is it then that the Labor government has reviewed and removed so many of the member for Windsor's questionable infrastructure commitments but has recommitted more than a billion dollars in funding for expansion of infrastructure that will demand and rely upon gas from the Beetaloo basin?</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">It has been very difficult to get a straight answer from anyone in the government about what this precinct is for. The government has steadfastly refused to answer simple questions about whether the precinct is intended for gas industry expansion, including petrochemicals manufacturing and gas processing using gas fracked from the basin. However, the CEO of Tamboran Resources, the biggest player in the Beetaloo, has been a bit more direct and a bit more honest. According to him, gas which will be extracted from the Beetaloo basin will be necessary for a full range of industrial purposes at the Middle Arm Sustainable Development Precinct near Darwin. This includes ammonia and urea production for fertiliser, hydrogen production, energy intensive manufacturing, power generation and liquid natural gas for export. </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Australian taxpayers are rightly very worried that the Middle Arm subsidy will be a Trojan horse for significant gas industry expansion in the Northern Territory. We should be doing the opposite. I am calling on the government to rule out gas industry expansion, including petrochemicals manufacturing, at Middle Arm. If we do not do this, we are subsidising new fossil fuel developments in this country.</span>
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            </body>
          </talk.text>
          <interjection>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>128</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">DEPUTY SPEAKER, The</name>
                <name.id>10000</name.id>
                <electorate />
                <party />
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </interjection>
          <continue>
            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>128</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Ryan, Monique MP</name>
                <name.id>297660</name.id>
                <electorate>Kooyong</electorate>
                <party>IND</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
              </talker>
            </talk.start>
            <talk.text>
            </talk.text>
          </continue>
        </speech>
      </subdebate.1>
      <subdebate.1>
        <subdebateinfo>
          <title>Aged Care</title>
          <page.no>129</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo>
        <subdebate.text>
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            <p class="HPS-SubDebate" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
              <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Aged Care</span>
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        </subdebate.text>
        <speech>
          <talk.start>
            <talker>
              <page.no>129</page.no>
              <time.stamp />
              <name role="metadata">Coker, Libby MP</name>
              <name.id>263547</name.id>
              <electorate>Corangamite</electorate>
              <party>ALP</party>
              <in.gov />
              <first.speech />
            </talker>
          </talk.start>
          <talk.text>
            <body background="" style="" xmlns:w="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/wordprocessingml/2006/main" xmlns:a="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/main" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:wx="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/word/2003/auxHint" xmlns:aml="http://schemas.microsoft.com/aml/2001/core" xmlns:pic="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/picture" xmlns:w10="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:wp="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/drawingml/2006/wordprocessingDrawing" xmlns:r="http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/officeDocument/2006/relationships">
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="263547" type="MemberSpeech">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberSpeech">Ms COKER</span>
                  </a> (<span class="HPS-Electorate">Corangamite</span>) (<span class="HPS-Time">12:47</span>):  Just under a week ago I was thrilled to hear that aged-care workers across our nation are in line for a much-deserved pay rise. The Fair Work Commission has made an interim decision for an increase the minimum wage of at least 15 per cent for aged-care workers in direct-care roles on a number of different awards. It should have happened a long time ago and it has only happened now because of the advocacy of our aged-care workers, unions, the broader aged-care sector and the Albanese Labor government. The commission has announced a further process to consider timing and a possible further increase for these workers. It will also consider granting pay rises for aged-care administrative and support staff, who do such great work.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Our government promised to fight for a pay rise for Australia's aged-care workers and we did. We made a submission to the Fair Work Commission in August that unequivocally supported a wage increase. Unlike the previous coalition government, we delivered for dedicated hardworking carers across the country looking after some of the most vulnerable members of our communities. These carers battled on during the challenging conditions of the COVID lockdowns, providing essential support for those in their care.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">Over recent years, I have hosted several forums in my electorate about the issues in aged care. Sad, tragic stories were commonplace. Tears flowed as family members, care workers and aged-care residents told their stories. Aged-care workers do some of the most important and passionate work in our communities, and we thank them, yet many get paid less than someone who stacks shelves in a supermarket. They spoke of how overstretched they are and how understaffed they are. Donna, a personal care attendant in a local aged-care facility in my electorate spoke passionately about low wages, insecure work and the frustration of being unable to properly care for frail, elderly and vulnerable residents. Donna's hourly rate had only increased by $7 an hour in the 11 years she has been employed in the aged-care sector. She earns $21 per hour. This is a disgrace. Harley, a young personal care attendant spoke equally passionately about inadequate pay while battling to care for residents he considered family.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">This underpayment of these essential and dedicated workers must stop if we are to retain and attract skilled aged-care employees to the sector. We know that, consistently, they do go above and beyond for elderly people in their care.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">The Albanese government's submission to the Fair Work Commission made it clear we would fund an increase in award wages, and we will. We're fighting for a better future for aged-care workers and older Australians. If we don't start paying aged-care workers properly, we won't keep them, and then we won't have the care for our loved ones.</span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-style:italic;">A division having been called in the House of Representatives—</span>
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                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">
                  </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sitting suspended from </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">12</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">:</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">50</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;"> to </span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">13</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">:</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">08</span>
                </span>
              </p>
              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <a href="201906" type="MemberInterjecting">
                    <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">The DEPUTY SPEAKER </span>
                  </a>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">(</span>
                  <span class="HPS-MemberInterjecting">Mr Young</span>
                  <span class="HPS-GeneralBold">):</span>  As there is no quorum present, the Federation Chamber is now adjourned.</span>
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              <p class="HPS-Normal" style="text-align:center;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:normal;">
                <span class="HPS-Normal">
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">Federation Chamber adjourned at</span>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold;">13:09</span>
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            <talk.start>
              <talker>
                <page.no>129</page.no>
                <time.stamp />
                <name role="metadata">Young, Terry MP (The DEPUTY SPEAKER)</name>
                <name.id>201906</name.id>
                <electorate>Longman</electorate>
                <party>LNP</party>
                <in.gov />
                <first.speech />
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            <talk.text>
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