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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">The SPEAKER (</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Hon.</span>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Milton Dick</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">) </span>took the chair at 10:00, made an acknowledgement of country and read prayers.</span>
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        <title>COMMITTEES</title>
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          <title>Petitions Committee</title>
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            <title>Report</title>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:01</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BELYEA</name>
    <name.id>309484</name.id>
    <electorate>Dunkley</electorate>
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  <para>I present the fourth report of the Petitions Committee for the 48th Parliament.</para>
<para class="italic"><inline font-style="italic">The report read as follows—</inline></para>
<quote><para class="block">HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">PETITIONS COMMITTEE</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">REPORT No. 04</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Petitions and Ministerial Responses</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">03 November 2025</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Chair Ms Jodie Belyea MP</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Deputy Chair Mr Leon Rebello MP</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Mr Cameron Caldwell MP</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Ms Emma Comer MP</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Ms Trish Cook MP</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Mr Rowan Holzberger MP</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Mr Llew O'Brien MP</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Ms Tracey Roberts MP</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">This committee is supported by staff of the Department of the House of Representatives</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Report summarising the petitions and ministerial responses being presented.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">The committee met in private session in the 48th Parliament on 23 September and 28 October 2025.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">1. The committee resolved to present the following 107 petitions in accordance with standing order 207:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">Petitions certified on 23 September 2025</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 106 petitioners—requesting prohibition of wind farms in native forests and review of environmental impacts (EN7769)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 56 petitioners—requesting reforms to family law processes to protect victims of domestic violence (EN7831)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 84 petitioners—requesting sanctions and legal measures in response to alleged war crimes in Gaza (EN7850)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 32 petitioners—requesting removal of the <inline font-style="italic">Goods and Services Tax Act 1999 </inline>(EN7874)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 54 petitioners—requesting upgrades to weather radars to withstand extreme conditions (EN7878)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 64 petitioners—requesting changes to address housing affordability and supply (EN7879)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 8 petitioners—requesting legislation to prohibit the use and distribution of online gaming cheat software (EN7880)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 78 petitioners—requesting the Australian Government not recognise the State of Palestine (EN7881)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 8 petitioners—requesting taxes on fast food companies contributing to obesity (EN7888)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 72 petitioners—requesting repeal of the <inline font-style="italic">Online Safety Amendment (Social Media Minimum Age) Act 2024 </inline>and development of alternative online safety policies (EN7889)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 115 petitioners—requesting a vote of no confidence in the current government (EN7892)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 19 petitioners—requesting additional property taxes on unoccupied residential land (EN7894)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 20 petitioners—requesting clarification that antisemitism definitions do not restrict reasonable free speech on Palestinian issues (EN7895)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 33 petitioners—requesting funding for the Salvation Army's Red Shield Defence Services (EN7897)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 61 petitioners—requesting review of the Migration Agents Capstone Assessment fee (EN7900)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 21 petitioners—requesting reform of the Child Support Scheme to strengthen enforcement and penalties for non-payment (EN7901)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 52 petitioners—requesting recognition and action to address targeted attacks on Syrian minorities (EN7902)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 19 petitioners—requesting implementation of direct blood donation policies (EN7903)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 54 petitioners—requesting legislation to prohibit burning the Australian National Flag (EN7906)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 19 petitioners—requesting amendment of the <inline font-style="italic">Bankruptcy Act 1966 </inline>to support victims of serious violent crime (EN7907)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 4 petitioners—requesting legislation to ensure net neutrality for online businesses (EN7908)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 6 petitioners—requesting adoption of term limits for laws (EN7911)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 21 petitioners—requesting legislative changes to limit compulsory workplace shutdowns (EN7912)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 62 petitioners—requesting sanctions and legal measures in response to alleged war crimes in Gaza (EN7913)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 30 petitioners—requesting actions to establish a formal bill of rights (EN7915)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 29 petitioners—requesting clarification regarding proposed National Disability Insurance Scheme reforms (EN7916)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 3 petitioners—requesting bulk billing for pensioners at regional public hospitals (EN7919)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 146 petitioners—requesting rejection of any proposal to introduce inheritance taxes (EN7921)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 11 petitioners—requesting amendment of the <inline font-style="italic">Fringe Benefits Tax Assessment Act 1986 </inline>to extend mortgage salary packaging to teachers (EN7922)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 31 petitioners—regarding the Australian Government's response to the conflict in Gaza (EN7926)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 24 petitioners—requesting an exemption for YouTube in the Online Safety Amendment (Social Media Minimum Age) Act 2024(EN7927)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 43 petitioners—requesting abolition of penalty interest and late fees in Australian Tax Office debt recovery (EN7929)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 32 petitioners—requesting measures to ensure international companies pay fair tax on revenue (EN7930)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 29 petitioners—requesting legislation to establish a right to erasure of personal data (EN7931)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 7 petitioners—requesting establishment of freedom of movement between Australia and New Zealand (EN8041)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 13 petitioners—requesting review of English language testing visa requirements (EN8042)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 7 petitioners—requesting amendment of National Youth Parliament age requirements to include older secondary students (EN8044)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 746 petitioners—requesting revocation of recognition of the State of Palestine (EN8046)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 10504 petitioners—requesting expulsion of the Israeli ambassador and recall of the Australian ambassador to Israel (EN8047)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 98 petitioners—requesting a motion of no confidence (EN8050)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 392 petitioners—requesting changes to immigration policy (EN8051)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 7 petitioners—requesting legislation to allow importation of exotic parrots with quarantine (EN8052)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 7 petitioners—requesting changes to social media age limit restrictions (EN8054)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 6 petitioners—requesting national consultation and referendum on an Australian republic (EN8059)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 15 petitioners—requesting consultation on transition to a republic (EN8060)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 3 petitioners—regarding free university education (EN8062)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 5 petitioners—regarding human rights (EN8065)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 6 petitioners—requesting re-establishment of the Department of National Development (EN8067)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 22 petitioners—requesting reversal of the decision to close Revesby Post Office (EN8068)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 808 petitioners—regarding the legitimacy of elections in Myanmar (EN8072)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 16 petitioners—requesting creation of an alternative investment and retirement fund vehicle (EN8073)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 26 petitioners—requesting recognition of Western Australia Country Health Service nurses for the National Medal (EN8075)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 349 petitioners—requesting consideration of the mechanisms to remove elected leaders and action on cost of living (EN8078)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 29 petitioners—requesting consideration of deportation of an individual (EN8081)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 46 petitioners—requesting declaration of all neo-Nazi groups as terrorist organisations (EN8082)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 8 petitioners—requesting consideration of measures to address the presence of neo-Nazi groups in Australia (EN8085)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 106 petitioners—requesting rejection of proposed amendments to the <inline font-style="italic">Freedom of Information Act 1982 </inline>(EN8086)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 53 petitioners—requesting consideration of the pension age and retirement policy (EN8087)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 2 petitioners—requesting introduction of a bidding mechanism for property disputes (EN8091)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 1311 petitioners—requesting review of nurse practitioner telehealth services (EN8092)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 29 petitioners—requesting consideration of establishing a bill of rights (EN8096)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 9 petitioners—requesting review of farmland prices and measures to improve affordability (EN8098)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 4 petitioners—requesting support for the rare earth minerals industry (EN8099)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 78 petitioners—requesting expansion of the definition of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organisation (EN8101)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 31 petitioners—requesting six months minimum parental leave for both parents (EN8102)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 56 petitioners—requesting legislative amendments to enable revocation of citizenship for violent extremist conduct (EN8104)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 361 petitioners—requesting legislation to criminalise burning of the Australian National Flag (EN8107)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 160538 petitioners—requesting consideration of a motion of no confidence in the government (EN8108)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 5750 petitioners—requesting prioritisation of Iraqi humanitarian visa applications from Türkiye (EN8110)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 37 petitioners—requesting laws prohibiting racially divisive language by elected representatives (EN8112)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 44 petitioners—requesting legislation for a domestic priority test for overseas expenditure (EN8113)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 311 petitioners—requesting legislative review related to home defence (EN8114)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 65 petitioners—requesting establishment of a sovereign wealth fund for resource royalties (EN8119)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 25 petitioners—requesting limitations on negative gearing (EN8120)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 272 petitioners—requesting legislation requiring all residential property listings to include a sale price or price range (EN8121)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 9 petitioners—regarding cancellation of overseas health cover policies (EN8127)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 288 petitioners—requesting inclusion of freedom of speech and freedom of the press in the Constitution (EN8128)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 248 petitioners—requesting review of the National Fire Ant Eradication Program (EN8130)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 42 petitioners—requesting changes to family law relating to custody arrangements (EN8131)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 14 petitioners—requesting legislation to make burning the Australian Aboriginal Flag a criminal offence (EN8133)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 2877 petitioners—requesting a motion of no confidence related to the leadership of the Prime Minister (EN8137)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 54 petitioners—requesting changes to voting federal elections (EN8138)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 76 petitioners—requesting actions to address vacant and neglected properties (EN8139)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 140 petitioners—requesting withdrawal of federal funding for the construction of Victoria Park stadium (EN8141)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 6 petitioners—requesting implementation of pause functions on social media platforms (EN8142)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 5 petitioners—requesting condemnation of violence in Nepal (EN8144)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 11 petitioners—requesting consideration of travel bans against individuals alleged to have contributed to violence in Nepal (EN8146)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 275 petitioners—requesting legislation for a referendum on a new constitutional preamble recognising First Australians (EN8147)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 16 petitioners—requesting actions to prohibit vilification of communities by elected representatives (EN8148)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 24 petitioners—requesting consideration of lowering the electoral voting age to sixteen (EN8150)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 5088 petitioners—requesting a motion of no confidence in the government (EN8151)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 1310 petitioners—requesting clear labelling of fresh produce treated with pesticides (EN8153)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 367 petitioners—requesting abolition of the eSafety Commissioner's office and establishment of an independent advisory council (EN8155)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 81 petitioners—requesting actions to prevent social media platforms from storing user identity documents (EN8157)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 39 petitioners—requesting consideration of international standards and protections for the rights of Indigenous peoples (EN8158)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 79 petitioners—requesting prohibition of the collection of digital identification data (EN8159)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 11 petitioners—requesting recognition of the actions of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps in Iran (EN8161)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 1155 petitioners—requesting consideration of policies regarding the return of individuals linked to overseas conflicts (EN8170)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 91 petitioners—requesting consideration of public information about the use and effects of certain vaccines (EN8172)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 277 petitioners—requesting action be taken against individuals involved with the Robodebt Scheme (EN8173)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 56 petitioners—requesting diplomatic action for the release of Dr Ahmadreza Djalali (EN8174)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 29 petitioners—requesting regulation of airport retail pricing (EN8176)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 112245 petitioners—requesting establishment of a national framework for domestic violence disclosure laws (EN8178)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 1613 petitioners—requesting reconsideration of social media age limit restrictions (EN8179)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 111 petitioners—requesting consideration of funding for a trial of a community-based income program in North-West Tasmania (EN8180)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 337 petitioners—requesting funding for adolescent inpatient mental health beds in Albury-Wodonga (EN8181)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">Petitions certified on 28 October 2025</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From 1363 petitioners—requesting support for healthcare programs and a single site hospital in Albury-Wodonga (PN0645)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">2. The following 9 ministerial responses to petitions were received.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">Ministerial responses received by the Committee on 28 October 2025</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From the Minister for Health and Aging to a petition requesting an increase in intensive treatment capacity for eating disorders in South Australia (EN7187)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From the Attorney-General to a petition requesting that freedom of speech and freedom of the press be enshrined in the Australian Constitution (EN7210)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From the Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme to a petition requesting that weighted blankets and toys be recognised as assistive technology under the National Disability Insurance Scheme (EN7247)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From the Attorney-General to a petition requesting reforms to the training of assistance dogs and a public education campaign on their access rights (EN7271)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From the Minister for Health and Aging to a petition requesting free reusable period products for school students (EN7320)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From the Minister for Health and Aging to a petition requesting fully bulk billed services for women with pelvic pain (EN7322)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From the Minister for Health and Aging to a petition requesting that nirsevimab be added to the National Immunisation Schedule or made accessible via private prescription (EN7337)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From the Minister for Health and Aging to a petition requesting continued support for the Suicide Prevention Research Fund (PN0638)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">From the Minister for Foreign Affairs to a petition requesting that Australian Government publicly reaffirm its support for the principles of the International Criminal Court (PN0640)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Ms Jodie Belyea MP</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Chair — Petitions Committee</para></quote>
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        <title>PETITIONS</title>
        <page.no>4</page.no>
        <type>PETITIONS</type>
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          <title>Presentation</title>
          <page.no>4</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:01</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BELYEA</name>
    <name.id>309484</name.id>
    <electorate>Dunkley</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I present the following 106 e-petitions and one paper petition:</para>
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          <title>Renewable Energy</title>
          <page.no>4</page.no>
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          <title>Family Law</title>
          <page.no>4</page.no>
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          <title>Israel</title>
          <page.no>5</page.no>
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          <title>Goods and Services Tax</title>
          <page.no>5</page.no>
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          <title>Bureau of Meteorology</title>
          <page.no>5</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>5</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cybercrime</title>
          <page.no>6</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Palestine</title>
          <page.no>6</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Taxation</title>
          <page.no>6</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cybersafety</title>
          <page.no>6</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Albanese Government</title>
          <page.no>7</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>7</page.no>
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          <title>Freedom of Speech</title>
          <page.no>7</page.no>
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          <title>Red Shield Defence Services</title>
          <page.no>7</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Registered Migration Agents</title>
          <page.no>8</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Family Law</title>
          <page.no>8</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Syria</title>
          <page.no>8</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Organ, Tissue and Blood Donation</title>
          <page.no>8</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Australian National Flag</title>
          <page.no>8</page.no>
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          <title>Child Abuse</title>
          <page.no>9</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Consumer Protection</title>
          <page.no>9</page.no>
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          <title>Australian Constitution</title>
          <page.no>9</page.no>
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          <title>Workplace Relations</title>
          <page.no>10</page.no>
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          <title>Israel</title>
          <page.no>10</page.no>
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          <title>Bill of Rights</title>
          <page.no>10</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>National Disability Insurance Scheme</title>
          <page.no>10</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Victoria: Health Care</title>
          <page.no>11</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Taxation</title>
          <page.no>11</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Fringe Benefits Tax</title>
          <page.no>11</page.no>
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          <title>Middle East</title>
          <page.no>11</page.no>
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          <title>Cybersafety</title>
          <page.no>12</page.no>
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          <title>Australian Taxation Office</title>
          <page.no>12</page.no>
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          <title>Taxation</title>
          <page.no>12</page.no>
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          <title>Personal Information and Privacy</title>
          <page.no>12</page.no>
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          <title>International Relations: Australia and New Zealand</title>
          <page.no>13</page.no>
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          <title>Migration</title>
          <page.no>13</page.no>
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          <title>National Youth Parliament</title>
          <page.no>13</page.no>
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          <title>Palestine</title>
          <page.no>13</page.no>
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          <title>Israel</title>
          <page.no>14</page.no>
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          <title>Prime Minister</title>
          <page.no>14</page.no>
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          <title>Migration</title>
          <page.no>14</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Exotic Parrot Imports</title>
          <page.no>14</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cybersafety</title>
          <page.no>14</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Australian Constitution</title>
          <page.no>14</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Australian Constitution</title>
          <page.no>15</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Tertiary Education</title>
          <page.no>15</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Bill of Rights</title>
          <page.no>15</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing and Infrastructure</title>
          <page.no>15</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Australia Post</title>
          <page.no>16</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Myanmar</title>
          <page.no>16</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Superannuation</title>
          <page.no>16</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Awards and Honours: National Medal</title>
          <page.no>17</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>17</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Sewell, Mr Thomas</title>
          <page.no>17</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Ideologically Motivated Extremism</title>
          <page.no>18</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Visa Refusal or Cancellation</title>
          <page.no>18</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Freedom of Information</title>
          <page.no>18</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Age Pension</title>
          <page.no>18</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Family Law</title>
          <page.no>18</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Health Care</title>
          <page.no>19</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Bill of Rights</title>
          <page.no>19</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Agriculture Industry</title>
          <page.no>19</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Critical and Strategic Minerals Industry</title>
          <page.no>19</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps</title>
          <page.no>19</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Paid Parental Leave</title>
          <page.no>20</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>National Security</title>
          <page.no>20</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Australian National Flag</title>
          <page.no>20</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Albanese Government</title>
          <page.no>20</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Humanitarian Visas</title>
          <page.no>20</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Discrimination</title>
          <page.no>21</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>International Development Assistance</title>
          <page.no>21</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Gun Control</title>
          <page.no>21</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>22</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Negative Gearing</title>
          <page.no>22</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>22</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Private Health Insurance</title>
          <page.no>22</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Australian Constitution</title>
          <page.no>23</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>National Fire Ant Eradication Program</title>
          <page.no>23</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Family Law</title>
          <page.no>23</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Australian Aboriginal Flag</title>
          <page.no>24</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Prime Minister</title>
          <page.no>24</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Electoral System</title>
          <page.no>24</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>24</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Brisbane Stadium</title>
          <page.no>25</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Mental Health: Social Media</title>
          <page.no>25</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Nepal: Human Rights</title>
          <page.no>25</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Nepal: Human Rights</title>
          <page.no>25</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Australian Constitution: Indigenous Australians</title>
          <page.no>26</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Discrimination</title>
          <page.no>26</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Electoral System</title>
          <page.no>26</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Labor Government</title>
          <page.no>27</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Food Labelling</title>
          <page.no>27</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Internet Content</title>
          <page.no>27</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cybercrime</title>
          <page.no>27</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Indigenous Australians</title>
          <page.no>27</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cybersafety</title>
          <page.no>28</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps</title>
          <page.no>28</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>National Security</title>
          <page.no>28</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Vaccination</title>
          <page.no>29</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Pensions and Benefits</title>
          <page.no>29</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Djalali, Dr Ahmadreza</title>
          <page.no>29</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Grocery Prices</title>
          <page.no>29</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Domestic and Family Violence</title>
          <page.no>30</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cybersafety</title>
          <page.no>30</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Tasmania: Pensions and Benefits</title>
          <page.no>30</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Albury-Wodonga: Mental Health</title>
          <page.no>30</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Albury-Wodonga: Hospitals</title>
          <page.no>31</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>PETITIONS</title>
        <page.no>31</page.no>
        <type>PETITIONS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Responses</title>
          <page.no>31</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:01</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BELYEA</name>
    <name.id>309484</name.id>
    <electorate>Dunkley</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I present the following nine ministerial responses to petitions previously presented:</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Statewide Eating Disorder Service</title>
          <page.no>31</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Freedom of Speech</title>
          <page.no>32</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>National Disability Insurance Scheme</title>
          <page.no>32</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Assistance Dogs</title>
          <page.no>32</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Women's Health</title>
          <page.no>33</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Women's Health</title>
          <page.no>34</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Respiratory Syncytial Virus</title>
          <page.no>35</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>National Suicide Prevention Research Fund</title>
          <page.no>35</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>International Criminal Court</title>
          <page.no>35</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo></subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>PETITIONS</title>
        <page.no>36</page.no>
        <type>PETITIONS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Statements</title>
          <page.no>36</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:01</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BELYEA</name>
    <name.id>309484</name.id>
    <electorate>Dunkley</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Of the e-petitions being presented, two attained over 100,000 signatures, which is a testament to public engagement in this democratic process. Of these two petitions, one addressed an issue of significant national importance—domestic violence. The over 100,000 signatures to this petition showed strong public engagement and appetite for action on this issue, with petitioners requesting the establishment of a national framework for a domestic violence disclosure scheme. I am pleased to inform the House that the committee also certified 70 new e-petitions at its last meeting. These e-petitions are now collecting signatures on the e-petitions website. I look forward to updating the House further on the work of the Petitions Committee at the next sitting week.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>36</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Stopping Wind Farms in State Forests Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>36</page.no>
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            <a href="r7399" type="Bill">
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Stopping Wind Farms in State Forests Bill 2025</span>
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        </subdebate.text><subdebate.2><subdebateinfo>
            <title>First Reading</title>
            <page.no>36</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo></subdebate.2><subdebate.2><subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>36</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:03</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr GEE</name>
    <name.id>261393</name.id>
    <electorate>Calare</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this bill be now read a second time.</para></quote>
<para>In the last parliament, I introduced a game-changing bill which would stop the building of wind farms in softwood pine plantations which are state forests.</para>
<para>I introduced it because of the pain, anguish and anger that many of our local residents are feeling over wind farm proposals in these areas.</para>
<para>That pain and anguish has not gone away, and politicians of all persuasions have failed to act. So I am bringing this bill back to this House, and it needs to be passed into law.</para>
<para>I'm not against renewable energy.</para>
<para>But what our communities are crying out for is reasonable and commonsense balance.</para>
<para>I've attended numerous community meetings and consultations over these proposals.</para>
<para>What residents are experiencing is very concerning.</para>
<para>Fly-in fly-out, tick-a-box consultation from developers without meaningful engagement and genuine dialogue has been a feature of our residents' experiences.</para>
<para>City people may think that putting turbines in state pine forests means they're out in the back blocks, far from having impacts on local residents. But this is not the case at all.</para>
<para>The developers are putting them close to the powerlines and to road access, which means they are extremely close to towns, villages and community members. They are literally surrounding communities.</para>
<para>Many residents are seniors. Some families have been living in these impacted areas for generations. Others had moved there to experience the quiet country life that we all know and love.</para>
<para>Their peace has been shattered.</para>
<para>In the case of the Sunny Corner Wind Farm, some residents were given maps that showed 300-metre turbines less than one kilometre from their homes.</para>
<para>I had one resident approach me with a map to tell me he'd sunk all his super into his small plot of land and he now wouldn't be able to sell it because of turbines in such close proximity, and he pointed out one that was just 700 metres away. People in the cities just don't understand the stress and anguish residents feel when confronted by these developments so close to their homes.</para>
<para>I've had residents tearfully tell me they can't sleep because of the stress and the strain.</para>
<para>There is a real human cost to this that is too often lost, overlooked and ignored. In the case of the Sunny Corner Wind Farm proposal the developer, Someva, has clearly placed turbines in locations that will cost them the least yet impact residents the most.</para>
<para>Profit is being put ahead of people, and it's appalling.</para>
<para>It's the same around Oberon, where the developers of the Pines Wind Farm have managed to turn a whole region against it.</para>
<para>When I attended a so-called consultation at the Black Springs hall I asked the developers whether it is true that they were shopping turbines outside the boundaries of the state forests. I was assured that they were not. These assurances proved to be false.</para>
<para>Shopping turbines outside of the boundaries of state forests is exactly what they have been doing, to such an extent that the developers are now pushing the proposal towards the small, close-knit farming community of Trunkey Creek.</para>
<para>The community is in shock.</para>
<para>I recently attended a community meeting at the Trunkey Creek hall, and the anger was real; the hurt was real.</para>
<para>I've been working with local residents in other impacted communities for many years. While I've had some success in getting windfarms moved or modified for local residents, such examples are, sadly, few and far between.</para>
<para>I believe that this is because, for all the so-call consultations and calming words of city based consultants on the ground, decisions about turbine placement are, for the most part, made in foreign boardrooms far, far away. It's a business decision. Moving turbines away for impacted residents costs money.</para>
<para>I recently met with the developers of the Kerrs Creek Wind Farm near Molong. I wanted an update on how far they had gone to meet community concerns. They tried to tell me how much they've compromised, but it was just words. After more than a year of engagement with this company, they'd hardly budged. Why?</para>
<para>Because it's all being developed by RES, which is controlled by the McAlpine group of companies in the United Kingdom. Does the McAlpine group really care how the people of Molong feel? Clearly not.</para>
<para>All these companies I've spoken to try to smooth it over by saying, 'It's all okay; we're going to try to sponsor the local footy team,' or the like. But that is cold comfort to the retirees who've just found out they're going to be surrounded on three sides by 300-metre turbines. It's a patronising and condescending attitude to hardworking Australians who just want to be left alone in the communities they love.</para>
<para>So, how did we get here</para>
<para>It was a failure in politics and politicians; that's how we got here—politicians not doing their jobs.</para>
<para>The problem is that windfarms are regulated by state planning laws. In 2021, when the New South Wales National Party passed a law to put windfarms in state forests, they did so without properly regulating and setting out the rights of impacted residents and neighbours.</para>
<para>Exactly the same thing happened when the National Party created renewable energy zones in New South Wales. They, again, abjectly failed to properly regulate them.</para>
<para>They caused more pain for residents with the failure of EnergyCo to properly consult and compromise. EnergyCo is a New South Wales government company that's building powerlines across the regions. The National Party did all this.</para>
<para>It should not have come to this, and it would not have come to this if the National Party had done its job, but it has failed.</para>
<para>Rather than pretending to ride around on white horses, the National Party should apologise, own up to its failure and come into this House and support this bill.</para>
<para>All of the major parties have had a hand in this. They are all guilty of failing these residents.</para>
<para>And it's been an ongoing failure across the political divide. All parties need to bear responsibility for it.</para>
<para>The result of this failure is conflict and controversy.</para>
<para>They have left others to pick up the pieces.</para>
<para>You've got friends fighting with friends and family members pitted against family members over the back fence.</para>
<para>It's a tragedy. And it all could have been avoided if politicians had simply done their jobs.</para>
<para>Why is anybody building anything on prime agricultural land?</para>
<para>The state planning laws and regulations need an overhaul.</para>
<para>Because successive state governments have abrogated their responsibilities, this bill steps in to fill a void created by their failure.</para>
<para>My bill enables the federal government to use its constitutional powers to make laws to stop turbine developments in these state forests. This federal legislation would override failed state legislation.</para>
<para>Clause 3 of the bill is the operative clause.</para>
<para>It uses the corporations power within the constitution to provide that a corporation must not construct, install or commission a windfarm in a state forest.</para>
<para>To put it beyond doubt, without limiting the definition of 'state forest', it includes the Sunny Corner State Forest near Portland and Lithgow, the Vulcan State Forest, the Mount David State Forest and the Gurnang State Forest—they are all in the Oberon area—and also the Canobolas state forest near Orange.</para>
<para>But the bill and the operative clause are not limited to those named state forests; they're for any state forest.</para>
<para>It's now up to all parties to get behind this bill.</para>
<para>It's time for the major parties, notably the National Party, to fess up to their failures, stop the infighting, bickering and plotting, start being an effective opposition, and come and support this legislation.</para>
<para>Our communities are tired of the failure.</para>
<para>They're tired of the false promises and the empty words.</para>
<para>They want their voices heard.</para>
<para>They want these wind farms in state forests stopped.</para>
<para>I commend the bill to the House and cede the rest of my speaking time to the honourable member for Kennedy, who will second it.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Is the motion seconded?</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:11</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr KATTER</name>
    <name.id>HX4</name.id>
    <electorate>Kennedy</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion. I greatly appreciate the honourable member for moving this legislation.</para>
<para>The case of Chalumbin, which featured in a national magazine, the <inline font-style="italic">Spectator</inline>, was most notorious. The biggest wind farm in Australia was proposed to be put within a few hundred metres of some of the last remnant jungle on earth. There is very little jungle left on earth, and they were going to put this giant wind farm a few hundred metres from Chalumbin. We praised then Minister Plibersek from stopping that proposal from going ahead. The university professor who was leading the battle against Chalumbin had said, 'You've got to stand back and say, "What is happening here?"' What was happening was that a beautiful nature wonderland was being turned into an industrial wasteland.</para>
<para>Proof positive of what he was saying there was the dismantling of the wind farm, which is no longer producing any electricity. It's worn out. They took the blades down and dumped them on Kidner's property without any permission. The company that did it vanished, so the Kidners couldn't sue anyone. It made national television. This is a beautiful area, a nature wonderland bordering on remnant jungles, very little of which are left on earth. These huge blades, which could stretch right across this room, were dumped there. <inline font-style="italic">(Time expired)</inline></para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The time allocated for this debate has expired. The debate is adjourned, and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next sitting.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.2></subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Commonwealth Electoral Amendment (Protecting Voters) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>38</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Commonwealth Electoral Amendment (Protecting Voters) Bill 2025</span>
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            </a>
          </body>
        </subdebate.text><subdebate.2><subdebateinfo>
            <title>First Reading</title>
            <page.no>38</page.no>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>38</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:14</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CHANEY</name>
    <name.id>300006</name.id>
    <electorate>Curtin</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this bill be now read a second time.</para></quote>
<para>Our democracy is precious and fragile, and we need to do everything we can to protect it. One of the reasons I ran for parliament in 2022 was the declining trust in our institutions and in our politicians. People increasingly feel cynical about politicians and their motives. In a rapidly changing world where democracies are being eroded rather than strengthened, we must evolve our democratic rules and processes to protect the public interest. Australians want fair and transparent elections. They place their trust in our election processes, and that includes postal voting.</para>
<para>There's a common practice in our postal voting process that makes people suspicious, degrades trust in the AEC and confirms the growing belief that political parties will do anything for power. The private members' bill I'm introducing today will fix this problem. It addresses a major complaint to the AEC and implements a majority recommendation from the final report of the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters. I will go through why this matters, what that practice is and how we're going to fix it.</para>
<para>Since 2004 the number of Australians voting by post has more than tripled. In 2004 only five per cent of voters voted by post. By 2022 this had increased to 15 per cent. Many people prefer to vote this way because they might have limited mobility, are away from home or just want to avoid the crowds. Postal votes are an increasingly important part of the electoral system, and the integrity of this voting process matters. Currently, political parties and candidates are allowed to distribute postal vote application forms and, crucially, to collect them. It has become common practice during an election campaign for a party to send a bulk mail-out of unsolicited mail to every home in their electorate. Along with campaign materials, the mail-out may contain an application for a postal vote, and it's only if you look very closely that you see that the postal vote application form has a tiny authorisation by a political entity. A reply-paid envelope often addressed to something vague like 'processing centre' is also included, so unsuspecting voters complete the application form, pop it in the reply-paid envelope and post it back to the processing centre.</para>
<para>This is when it gets dodgy and when the integrity of the process is weakened. The processing centre is not the AEC. If they were being transparent, the processing centre should be called 'the politician's data-harvesting centre'. Unknowingly, the voter is sending to a political entity their name, their address, their date of birth, their phone number, their email, their security question and answer, and a copy of their signature. This data can be stored, used or shared all without the voter's knowledge or consent, and more than 600,000 voters were duped in this way at the last election. I get so many emails from constituents worried about privacy and data breaches, and their data being stolen by online scammers, yet here we are in Australia with our data being harvested by our own political representatives.</para>
<para>When I explained this practice during the campaign, people were horrified and outraged that this is not only legal but also routine behaviour by the major parties. This loophole is particularly bad because political parties, their contractors and their volunteers are exempt from the Privacy Act, including the Australian Privacy Principles, which regulate how personal data is collected, how it's used and whether it can be disclosed or sold to third parties. This means that political parties can collect, store and use personal data without informing individuals. They're not required to notify voters if their data is breached and there's no legal obligation to secure that data that they collect. Not only can they store and use the data for microtargeting, profiling or future campaigning without consent but they can also sell this personal data to third-party data brokers or analytics firms. We have no idea if they currently do this, because there's no oversight, but searches of the PO box that the reply-paid envelopes are directed to show some connections with companies that trade in personal data.</para>
<para>We must be particularly careful about what data we let political parties harvest, and whether people are providing that data with full knowledge of how it is being used. The AEC hates this practice. They hate political actors using the postal-voting application process to access personal data. In April 2022, the AEC commissioner, Tom Rogers, wrote to all registered political parties, warning against distributing potentially misleading postal vote applications to residents. He referred to reports of incorrect forms being distributed to voters, the AEC's purple colour being used on some forms and voters being directed to generically named websites en masse with the potential to mislead.</para>
<para>In a submission to the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters, the AEC said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">The distribution and collection of PVAs by candidates and parties creates eligibility confusion and privacy concerns amongst voters.</para></quote>
<para>This is not how a healthy democracy should function, and this bill puts a stop to it.</para>
<para>This bill amends the Commonwealth Electoral Act to ensure that only voters themselves, not political parties or candidates, can submit postal vote applications to the AEC. It prohibits third parties from on-sending an application for a postal vote on behalf of a voter. It's a straightforward fix. It doesn't cost anything, it doesn't limit political communication and it doesn't interfere with anyone's right to vote. What it does do is protect Australians' personal information. It restores transparency to the postal voting process and it helps rebuild trust in our electoral process—something we should all be working together to strengthen, not exploit.</para>
<para>With this bill in place, parties can still send postal vote application forms to voters to assist them but they cannot include sneaky reply-paid envelopes that direct those forms back to them or their associates—so they can't harvest voter data. The form must be sent to the AEC directly. The AEC can then send the necessary papers so the voter can vote by post. The relationship between the voter and the AEC is protected under this bill without political actors inserting themselves into that relationship for political gain. There are many other areas of electoral reform that need to be addressed, and I'll be dealing with some of those in my submission to the JSCEM inquiry and evidence to that committee.</para>
<para>This is one problem with a simple, straightforward and immediate fix, and I urge the government to address this issue before the next election. It fixes an unpopular and unethical practice that's despised by voters and the AEC. We need to make it stop. I commend the bill to the House and cede the remainder of my time to the member for Kooyong.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Is the motion seconded?</para>
</interjection>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:22</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr RYAN</name>
    <name.id>297660</name.id>
    <electorate>Kooyong</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I'm proud to second this important motion by my friend and colleague the member for Curtin. Australians are proud of our electoral system. We cherish the system of compulsory voting along with the freedoms and the protections that go with it, so it is a wonder that the Commonwealth Electoral Act permits political parties to intervene in the process of requesting, receiving and returning postal votes. It allows parties to combine postal votes with party political material to collect Australian voters' personal information and onsell that information to unknown third parties. The parties' involvement is all about getting voter information. It is not about facilitating voter access. If it were, the parties would send those postal votes straight to the AEC—but they do not do that.</para>
<para>Parties do not make it clear to postal voters that they will be processing applications in this way, that they are harvesting voters' personal information for campaigning purposes. Parties do not make it clear to voters that they can and do onsell voters' personal information for a profit. Many post-election complaints received by the AEC relate to privacy concerns. At the 2025 election, the details of more than 670,000 voters were harvested by political parties. One wonders how many of those 670,000 might have complained had they known what was being done with their data. The AEC has warned that third-party postal vote applications cause confusion, privacy concerns and processing delays.</para>
<para>Adding potential insult to injury, the tight timeframes between an election being called and the return of the postal votes, when extended by the parties' unnecessary elongation of the process, mean that submitting a postal vote via a party risks your vote not actually being returned on time. As with so many integrity measures, federal legislation is behind the states and territories. Most voters are unaware that combining postal vote applications with political material, while it's allowable under Commonwealth legislation, is specifically outlawed by the Victorian state Electoral Act. The AEC would like it gone too.</para>
<para>It's extraordinary that third-party postal vote data harvesting has been allowed to go on for so long. This bill amends the Commonwealth Electoral Act to ensure that postal vote applications can be sent to the AEC only by voters. It's an important integrity measure. It's a simple fix to a significant problem. I thank my colleague for raising this issue and I commend the bill to the House.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The time allotted for the debate has expired. The debate is adjourned, and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next sitting.</para>
</interjection>
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          <title>Repeal Net Zero Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>40</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Repeal Net Zero Bill 2025</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>40</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:25</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr RICK WILSON</name>
    <name.id>198084</name.id>
    <electorate>O'Connor</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to speak in support of the Repeal Net Zero Bill 2025. My electorate of O'Connor is ground zero for net zero. We've already seen the total demise of the nickel industry, with 14 out of 16 nickel mines in my electorate closing thanks to cheap, dirty nickel being produced in Indonesia. Of the two remaining facilities, Murrin Murrin has lost $61 million in the last six months and has just declined a $35 million government grant to transform its gas-fired power to renewables. The iconic Kalgoorlie nickel smelter and Goldfields nickel mines are shuttered, and the Ravensthorpe First Quantum nickel mine and processing operation on the south coast has folded.</para>
<para>Thousands of jobs have been lost across my electorate, and, going forward, the safeguard mechanism will single-handedly destroy even more productive industries between now and 2030. Of the 219 largest emitters in the country captured under the safeguard mechanism, 36 per cent are in WA, with over 20 of those facilities in my electorate of O'Connor. They include the goldminers of the historic Goldfields; Boddington, the largest goldmine in the country; lithium producers at Mount Marion; the Worsley Alumina refinery; and Premier Coal, in Collie. The safeguard mechanism is forcing companies to buy expensive renewable energy, build their own renewable power stations or buy expensive offsets, which is literally converting productive O'Connor farmland back to bush.</para>
<para>Meanwhile, the capacity mechanism is incentivising renewable energy projects across the agricultural areas of my electorate. Under the capacity mechanism, taxpayer dollars are underwriting the profits of largely multinational or international companies to build wind and solar farms across some of the most productive farmland in the country, where this year's grainyards will potentially be the highest ever and stock prices are at record highs.</para>
<para>These wind and solar projects are creating considerable community division. Last week I visited Narrogin, which will soon host three wind farm projects. There is open tension between those who accept the wind farm windfall and those who want to continue farming as their forebears did. Some residents are concerned about visual and noise pollution or are fearful of potential adverse health effects. Landowners and volunteer firefighters who have lived through raging bushfires know a wind farm makes agricultural land and adjacent wildlife havens indefensible by air. Where are the guarantees for environmental restoration at the end of the life of these renewables? Will farmers and shire councils be left with the environmental remediation burden after cashed-up multinationals have cut and run?</para>
<para>But the renewable energy fallout doesn't stop here for the good people of O'Connor, where the most popular vehicles for work and leisure are the Toyota HiLux and the Ford Ranger. Labor's vehicle emissions reduction scheme will drive up the price of these vehicles, as electric vehicles are simply not suitable in my electorate, where people can drive up to 600 or 700 kilometres just for a doctor's appointment. At the end of the day, for my electorate it's the hardworking businesses and taxpayers of O'Connor underwriting these projects.</para>
<para>These imposts effectively constitute a carbon tax. Treasury recently referred to the cost per tonne of carbon—which is effectively the same as a carbon tax—as around $65 per tonne to achieve targets of 43 per cent emissions reduction by 2030, and then up to $323 per tonne to reach net zero by 2050. People may recall—and I'm sure people on the other side will recall—that when the Gillard government was unceremoniously dumped in 2013 the carbon price was $23 a tonne.</para>
<para>Now to the impact on agriculture. The CSIRO recently modelled that a carbon cost of $70 per tonne of CO2 would add $150 to $200 per tonne to the cost of urea. The Grattan Institute modelled similar effects on the costs of agricultural chemicals, up five to 15 per cent, and lime and on-farm diesel, also up five to 15 per cent. Just this weekend, climate czar Matt Kean floated the removal of the diesel tax rebate. For a 4,000-hectare WA wheat-sheep farm, this could add more than $200,000 per year in additional costs by 2030.</para>
<para>So, to achieve these net zero goals, we're already decimating the mining industry across my electorate, inflicting serious damage on our agriculture and transport industries and hitting the hip pockets of everyday people living in O'Connor, all for a climate goal that most of the international community is coming to realise will never be reached. The only thing we're on track for is impoverishing our great country, for no gain to the global climate.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:30</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr REPACHOLI</name>
    <name.id>298840</name.id>
    <electorate>Hunter</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I'm a fitter and turner by trade. I'm a bloke who has worked alongside miners, tradies and power station workers, and now I stand here as their representative in this parliament. Sometimes, though, when I come into this place to explain net zero to those opposite, I feel more like a kindergarten teacher than a member of parliament. I don't know if it's selective hearing, genuine misunderstanding or just plain ignorance, but, whenever we talk about reducing our emissions, those opposite leave out the most important word in 'net zero': 'net'. Net zero does not mean shutting down industries. Net zero does not mean zero emissions. Net zero is about one thing: offsets. It means we take as much carbon out of the atmosphere as we put in. It is simple and practical, and industries in the Hunter are already doing it.</para>
<para>One of the lines I always hear is that net zero will close down coalmines. That's rubbish. The Minerals Council of Australia and many coal companies have already set themselves net zero targets by 2050. They did this even before government legislated our national target. So I ask those opposite: why would the peak mining body set net zero targets if it meant destroying their own industry? Why would companies sign up for it if it meant going broke? The answer is obvious: they wouldn't, because net zero is not about shutting up shop. It's about running mines, keeping people in work and reaching net zero through offsets and better technology. Back in 2021, the Minerals Council set out practical steps to get there. These steps included energy efficiency, switching to renewables, carbon capture, methane abatement, electrification and investing in negative emissions technologies. In other words, the industry itself is leading the way.</para>
<para>Another old chestnut is that we should build a new coal-fired power station. Now, coal power is something that has a special place in my heart. Our power stations have kept the lights on in the Hunter for generations. They create good jobs, they built communities like Lake Macquarie, Cessnock and Muswellbrook, and they made the Hunter the powerhouse of the state and of Australia. For that, I will always be grateful. I am not in favour of any of the power stations shutting down earlier than they have to, and, if business came forward tomorrow with a solid plan for a new coal-fired power station in the Hunter, I would happily look at it and have the conversation. I am not opposed to any source of power generation, as long as it stacks up financially. But the truth is that the market has moved on. Our coal stations are ageing and are having many unplanned maintenance outages, and new ones are no longer the cheapest and most efficient way to generate power.</para>
<para>At the same time, Australia is leading the world in rooftop solar, and in the Hunter families are leading that charge. From Kurri to Cessnock to Toronto to Singleton, people are putting solar on their roofs because it saves them money. Not one person is calling solar 'woke' in the Hunter; they are too busy cutting their power bills. We have plenty of sun in this country, so why wouldn't we make the most of it? For those who ask, 'What about when the sun doesn't shine?' the simple answer is something called a battery. It stores solar energy so you can use it at night. With our Cheaper Home Batteries Program, it has never been more affordable. Hunter households are taking it up at one of the fastest rates in the nation, with 106,000 batteries installed since 1 July. A proud coalmining region is proving that you can honour the industry that built us while embracing technology that makes life cheaper and easier. That's the real story of net zero in the Hunter. It's not about sacrifice. It's not about turning our backs on coal. It's about building on our strengths. We can mine coal and use offsets. We can keep our power stations running for as long as the markets support them. We can also be leaders in solar, batteries, renewables, gas and new industries that will take us into the future. That is good for jobs, good for families and good for the Hunter.</para>
<para>The Hunter has always been the engine room of New South Wales. We powered the state through coal, and now we're proving we can lead the way to net zero as well—not by shutting down but by stepping up, not by walking away but by making smart choices. That is what net zero means for us. That's why it's good for the Hunter and that's why we'll continue to support it all away. To the coalmining community out there: remember, for as long as people want to buy our coal we'll always supply it to them. We have the best coal in the world, and we need to make sure we keep using it.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:35</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr FRENCH</name>
    <name.id>316550</name.id>
    <electorate>Moore</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>There was a time when the member for New England stood for something. He was a country maverick who crossed the floor more than anyone else, a man who wouldn't take a script from anyone—not the press gallery, not the suits in Canberra and certainly not his own party. He was loud, but it came from conviction and from a genuine belief that the bush needed a fighter, and for a time he was that fighter. He still stands for something, but it's no longer the people he once championed. The conviction remains, but the compass has spun. The fight that once came from the soil now comes from the studio light. The bill before us, the so-called Repeal Net Zero Bill, is the product of that drift. It tears down; it doesn't build. It looks backwards, not forwards. It scraps the Climate Change Act, abolishes the Net Zero Economy Authority and deletes every reference to net zero it can find, as if deleting the words will stop the weather. There is no courage in it, just confusion. It's a long way from the plain-spoken pragmatism of the farmers, workers and small-business owners who actually keep the regions running.</para>
<para>I represent Moore, a coastal electorate where people know the value of hard work and fair reward. They know when someone is offering a fair go and when they're just selling nostalgia. The people of Moore don't want another round of arguments from last century; they want cheaper bills, steadier jobs and a government that treats clean energy as a tool, not a target. In Joondalup, small firms are cutting costs with solar. In Kingsley, retirees are counting every dollar. In Mullaloo, apprentices are wiring up industries of the future, not patching up the past. When they talk about the past, it's in words like 'shutdown' or 'decommission'.</para>
<para>The member for New England says net zero is pointless. He says we'll be stronger if we walk away from the world. He says renewables are future landfill. But, while people suffer through droughts, tariffs and the embarrassment of being a century behind, it's his words that seem pointless. Once the member for New England stood up for rural Australians in this chamber, but this bill gives them only an echo, distant and unclear—the sound of politics stuck in neutral. It's a squeaky-wheel performance of masculinity chasing overseas strongmen instead of shaping Australia's future here at home.</para>
<para>Net zero isn't ideology; it's industry. It's 33 per cent of Australian homes now topped with rooftop solar. It's farmers earning carbon credits to diversify their income. It's regional towns like Geraldton and Kalbarri turning wind and sun into wages and opportunity. Since Labor came to government, renewable generation has risen nearly 30 per cent. Investment hit $12.7 billion last year, including $9 billion for new, large-scale projects. Over four million homes now produce their own power—the highest per capita in the world. That's not ideology; that's the Australian instinct to get on with it.</para>
<para>The National Party, once a party of practical men and women of the land, has walked away from net zero entirely. In doing so they've walked away from their own communities' economic future. Instead of backing farmers and regional workers, they have backed fantasies. Instead of standing up for regional opportunity, they have surrendered to political nostalgia. Every time they turn their backs on net zero they turn their backs on regional jobs and investment.</para>
<para>Yes, the member for New England once stood up for the bush. He stood for independence, decency and the right to have a go. But this bill is not that. It's not maverick; it's mimicry. It's not rebellion but retreat—a retreat that would leave this country he loves weaker, poorer and more divided. Now we see it plainly: the retreat is complete. Australia deserves better. The bush deserves better. This parliament must do better. I oppose this bill because standing up for regional Australia means standing up its future, not dragging it back into someone else's past.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>F2S</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>There being no further speakers, the debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next day of sitting.</para>
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        <title>PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS</title>
        <page.no>43</page.no>
        <type>PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS</type>
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          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>43</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:40</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr CALDWELL</name>
    <name.id>306489</name.id>
    <electorate>Fadden</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) acknowledges that the Government has made Australia's housing crisis worse than ever by:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) overseeing a historic collapse of housing construction, with the last financial year seeing less homes built than at any other time during this Government;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) expanding the 5 per cent deposit scheme from a sensible and targeted approach, to an uncapped and non-means tested, free-for-all which will push up prices and expose first home buyers to larger mortgages;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) creating the failing Housing Australia Future Fund which is buying houses from Australians, not building houses for Australians; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) allowing the criminal and corrupt Construction, Forestry, and Maritime Employees Union to run rampant across Australian residential building sites, pushing up apartment prices by up to 30 per cent; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the Government continues to keep a $24,000 report into poor governance at Housing Australia secret; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) leaked advice from the Department of the Treasury states that the Government will fail to reach its National Housing Accord target of 1.2 million homes by 2029.</para></quote>
<para>The longer you're in this place, the more time you have to reflect. In preparation for my speech today, I reviewed my maiden speech that I gave in this place on 4 September 2023. I want to read part of that speech. I said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">I was fortunate enough to buy my first property during the time of the Howard government, but I fear that the great Australian dream is being snatched away. We must strive, as a nation, to increase homeownership. There is no better way to illustrate the collective ambition of our nation to have individual freedom and responsibility than to have people own their own home. Give as many people as possible the opportunity to have a stake in our nation.</para></quote>
<para>Just over two years on, I reflect on those words and think that that sentiment about homeownership and the opportunities that should be presented to Australians are more important now than ever. Australians should ask themselves, 'Who is the better custodian of housing in Australia—a coalition who genuinely believes in the Australian dream or the Labor Party, who, for the last four years, has had a track record of failed policy, fewer homes, higher mortgages and higher rents?' Sadly, under Labor, the great Australian dream is turning into a nightmare. Minister O'Neil was hapless in home affairs, but she is hopeless with homes.</para>
<para>The first plank of their failing plan is to blame everyone else. They're now framing the housing crisis as, 'forty years in the making,' when, in fact, it's only been the last four, under this Labor government. Its policy is taglines that fit on a corflute but nothing more. Labor's centrepiece, the Housing Australia Future Fund is now under a formal performance audit by the Auditor-General into its design and delivery. When the Auditor-General steps in, you know something has gone badly wrong. In addition, in the last couple of weeks, the chair of Housing Australia has resigned, and Labor has continued to keep secret a $24,000 report into poor governance and wide-ranging issues at Housing Australia.</para>
<para>Labor promised 1.2 million new homes in Australia over a five-year period, but Treasury and industry experts have confirmed that they are likely to fall 400,000 homes short of this target. By the end of today, that target will have slipped by another 220 homes. Just this week, they will have fallen another 1,500 homes short of their target—all this failure is while presiding over one of the biggest population surges Australia has had in decades.</para>
<para>The second plank of their failed policy seems to be to spend more and get less. This motion speaks to a pattern we see today that Labor has spent more than ever to build fewer homes than under the last coalition government. New Parliamentary Library analysis shows almost $60 billion in headline and off-budget housing spend, for fewer homes than were previously delivered under the coalition. Completions are falling year on year despite the cash splash. That is the definition of policy failure.</para>
<para>One of the things that Labor doesn't actually like to talk about is the impact on homelessness, because when there's a housing crisis it hurts everyone. Frontline services report the worst in living memory for homelessness. Monthly service demand is up 10 per cent since 2022—14 per cent for women and girls.</para>
<para>The third plank now, based on the minister's social media this week, is that she's backing in hard the Premier's plan in Victoria. The Jacinta Allan led Labor government now is going to provide the solution to housing in her home state. That shows the lack of judgement that this minister has exercised since she was appointed.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>F2S</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Is there a seconder for the motion?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Rebello</name>
    <name.id>316547</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion and reserve my right to speak.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:46</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CAMPBELL</name>
    <name.id>312823</name.id>
    <electorate>Moreton</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I've got news for the member for Fadden, because, when the member for Fadden talks about the fact that the great Australian dream is being snatched away, those doing the snatching are sitting right opposite. Those doing the snatching are those in the coalition. Those opposite are the ones who have turned that Australian dream into a nightmare. The member for Fadden has to take a cold, hard look at what the coalition has done when it comes to housing. Not only have we seen decades and decades of neglect when it comes to investment in housing, but we've also seen a coalition who talk a big game, bring something to the chamber and then can't look themselves in the eye to see what they've done when it comes to housing policy.</para>
<para>Let's have a look at what we've seen from this coalition not just over a couple of years but over many, many years. In their nine years in government, what did we see? Three hundred and seventy-three homes built in nine years. That is part of not an Australian dream but an Australian nightmare. What did we see? We saw that they didn't even have a housing minister for most of the time that they were in government. That is not part of an Australian dream; that is part of a coalition nightmare. We saw them fail to support free TAFE, and free TAFE is about making sure not only that our young people have cost-of-living relief but also that we are building the trades and skills of the future that we need to build those homes. Failing to support that is not the Australian dream; it is a coalition nightmare.</para>
<para>So, when the member for Fadden gets up here and talks about housing, what we know is that they talk a big game but that when it comes to housing—when it comes to actually fixing the fundamental challenge, which is supply—they have never done anything to make a real difference. In fact, when we look at what the coalition's track record is on housing, we see that it has only ever acted to make housing less affordable—less affordable for the young people in my electorate who are worried that they will never own a home, and less affordable for those parents with adult children who are worried that the kids will not be able to get that Australian dream and build a future with a home.</para>
<para>On 31 October, just a few days ago, one of the members of my local team, Kane, and his partner, Jaxen, bought their first home, and do you know how they bought their first home? They put down a five per cent deposit. Within one month of a Labor policy coming to fruition to allow first home owners to put down a five per cent deposit to own their own home, they were able to do that. Kane and Jaxen were like many other young people who had been scrimping and saving to put together that 20 per cent, and they couldn't do it, but then Labor introduced a five per cent deposit for first home buyers. That is the difference when we talk about what we've seen from across the chamber and what we've seen from Labor.</para>
<para>Home is symbolic of security, it's symbolic of safety and it's symbolic of stability, but it's also something very tangible. It's the Colorbond roof on the bricks and mortar or the VJs of an old Queenslander. Home is important because it helps us build for the future; it helps us plan. We talk about five per cent deposits. What five per cent deposits do is get people into their first homes. Five per cent deposits also mean people are not contributing to someone else's mortgage; they're contributing to their own.</para>
<para>What have we seen when it comes to Labor? We've seen half a million homes built since Labor was elected, compared to a measly 373 homes over nine years from those opposite. And we are on our way to delivering 1.2 million homes, an ambitious target that will help make houses more affordable. We've seen the future fund delivering more than 55,000 social and affordable homes. We are training more tradies who have the skills to build more homes. The member for Fadden talks about being passionate about that great Australian dream. If he want to do something, if he wants to deliver on housing affordability, he better come over to this side of the chamber, because that's where the business gets done.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:51</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr REBELLO</name>
    <name.id>316547</name.id>
    <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to support this motion because the Australian dream of homeownership is slipping further out of reach under this government. Labor's appalling housing failures are all the proof you need to see that they have no idea what they're doing on housing or the economy more broadly. Labor talk a big game on housing, but the reality is that their backwards policies are in fact taking away from supply and driving up property prices, further disadvantaging first home buyers.</para>
<para>In just three years, the government has presided over the biggest boom in Australia's population since the 1950s while overseeing an historic housing construction collapse. Despite their $60 billion housing investment, they're spending more than ever to deliver fewer homes than the previous coalition government. Labor's flagship housing policy, the Housing Australia Future Fund, is one of the greatest public policy failures of our time. Ten billion dollars of taxpayer money is tied up in a fund, yet no member of the government was willing or able to tell us how many homes it's actually built. At Senate estimates, we discovered that Labor is not even building homes; they're buying homes. You can't make this up. The government is competing with its own people to buy up existing supply, driving up prices. Australians don't need their government bidding against them at weekend auctions; they need their government building more homes.</para>
<para>Nearly $60 billion of taxpayer money has been poured into housing schemes that are failing to deliver results. Labor are spending more, building less and blaming everybody but themselves. Labor know the key to increasing housing supply is through deregulating the industry, but instead they bow down to their union mates to pile on 5,000 new regulations and 400 new laws—nearly 3,000 pages of construction codes. They smother builders in paperwork and then wonder why fewer homes are being built. We've seen an historic collapse in building completion, with close to 200,000 homes built each year under the coalition compared to the barely 170,000 today under Labor. At the same time as construction has fallen, Labor has presided over the biggest population surge since the 1950s, driving up demand while strangling supply through red tape and poor policy design. What's the result? Families in my electorate are paying more, they're waiting longer and they're falling further behind.</para>
<para>As the housing crisis deepens, the minister hides a $24,000 report into bullying and mismanagement at Housing Australia, one that Treasury admits exists but refuses to release. This is a government that's addicted to secrecy, allergic to accountability and incapable of delivery.</para>
<para>Labor's reckless expansion of the Home Guarantee Scheme is another example of good intentions, bad economics and worse governance. The coalition created this scheme to help low-income Australians with small deposits. It was a targeted, sensible policy. Labor has turned it into a $60 billion uncapped, non-means-tested, free-for-all system not targeted to those who need it. The Reserve Bank governor has already confirmed the obvious. This will push up house prices and leave first home buyers with larger mortgages. Labor's policy helps no-one except the banks, the unions and super funds all lining up for a share of taxpayer backed housing debt.</para>
<para>No discussion of housing under this government can ignore the elephant on the building site: the criminal and corrupt CFMEU. This union has been allowed to run rampant across construction sites, driving up apartment prices by as much as 30 per cent. It's unconscionable that taxpayer money is being funnelled through this fund to enrich the same union whose conduct has driven so many builders to the wall. The coalition's bill before the Senate would ban the HAFF investments tied to the CFMEU's financial arms. If Labor were serious about integrity and housing, they would support it.</para>
<para>For generations, Australians have believed that if you worked hard, saved carefully and contributed to your community you could own a home and, therefore, a stake in your economy and your country. But that social contract is breaking. Instead of enabling Australians to build their own future, Labor continues to fuel dependency. We must restore government as an enabler not a provider, a partner in people's ambition not a replacement for it. We must restore the great Australian dream of homeownership, because a government that cannot house its people is a government that has lost its way.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:56</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr LAXALE</name>
    <name.id>299174</name.id>
    <electorate>Bennelong</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Whenever we talk about housing, we need to acknowledge a few things. One is that this is a housing crisis generations in the making. It didn't start in 2022 when the Albanese Labor government was elected. This has been going on for decades because, for decades, we've had poor housing policy by all levels of government and, for decades, this country simply hasn't built enough homes. People in my community and across the country are doing everything right. They're working hard, they're saving but they're still finding it hard to afford to rent a home in many circumstances and even harder to buy a home. The queues in my community for rental properties are staggering. That's not because the Albanese Labor government was elected, and that's not when it started. That's because there haven't been enough homes built in the cities and the regions for decades. Young people feel like they'll never be able to own a home, let alone find an affordable home to rent. Parents tell me that they struggle to give their kids the same stability they had, and that all comes down to housing. That all comes down to successive local, state and federal governments that have not built enough homes.</para>
<para>One of the main reasons I decided to run for federal government was, after a decade in local government, I knew we needed a federal government that took action on housing, didn't just talk about it like those opposite—not like those opposite who didn't have a housing minister for half of the time in their last term of government. I wanted to be part of a federal government that took ownership of this problem and had policies to help deliver on it.</para>
<para>Now, at two elections, we've been elected with policies to attack this challenge that we face, because you can't just keep on turning up to this place and talking about it; we actually have to do things about it, and that's what this government is doing. We've allocated $43 billion to date to deal with this generations-old problem. It's built on three pillars. We want to make it easier to buy a home, we want to make it better to rent a home and we need to build more homes.</para>
<para>Now, if you listen to member for Fadden and the member for McPherson, there's no ownership of their contribution to this crisis. They're just sitting here slinging mud, throwing out acronyms and blaming some report or this other report. There are no solutions in their sprays. For nine long years, they did nothing. They didn't take ownership of the housing crisis, and, in fact, they made it worse. In their nine years, 373 social and affordable homes were built. That's it. Not per year, not per month or week—in the entire nine years, that's all they built. They walked away from the housing challenge.</para>
<para>During the pandemic, when industry experts were saying we should boost our economy by funding the construction of more housing, they came up with a policy to fund renovations for people who already owned homes—ignored experts who were saying, 'Build more social housing during the pandemic; it'll help our economy and it'll help solve the crisis.' They did nothing.</para>
<para>The opposite can be said of this government: real delivery. We've set the really ambitious target of 1.2 million homes. We're delivering 55,000 social and affordable homes through the Housing Australia Future Fund. Those opposite say it's not working, but it is, and I'll give you an example in my electorate. Link Wentworth housing were going to build around 150 apartments. Before the Housing Australia Future Fund, half of that was going to be social homes and half was going to market, because that's the only way they could make it stack up. With the Housing Australia Future Fund—a signed agreement—now it'll be half social homes and half affordable homes. By removing the need to have that private market housing to fund the construction—the HAFF will help them top it up—we'll have more affordable homes in Bennelong because of the Housing Australia Future Fund. There'll be more than 1,000 Build to Rent properties that are currently under planning or construction—just in my electorate, let alone across the rest of the country—all because of policies that those opposite not only voted against but are now complaining are not delivering when they are. Instead of whingeing, we're getting on with the job, and we'll keep on doing it.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:01</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr HAINES</name>
    <name.id>282335</name.id>
    <electorate>Indi</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for Bennelong, and I agree with him: we shouldn't be whingeing; we should be working. But not whingeing does not mean not having a decent critique, either. In my electorate of Indi, housing pressures continue to be one of the most pressing and commonly brought issues that come to my office. Homeowners continue to feel the pressure of interest rates and the high cost of living. Renters struggle to imagine homeownership at all, with vacancy rates critically low and rents continuing to rise. When it comes to social housing, thousands of people remain on wait lists in towns like Wodonga, Wangaratta and Benalla. Homelessness is at rates we have never seen before in rural and regional Australia.</para>
<para>There is no doubt that there is so much more to be done to make housing affordable and accessible in Australia. However, while the motion before the House points to failure, I'm determined to, as I said, focus on solutions—and solutions that work for the people I represent in rural and regional Australia. I'm not here just to describe a problem. That is why, since 2022, I've called for a $2 billion regional housing infrastructure fund to help local councils build the pipes, the pavements and the poles that unlock new housing. It's not glamorous, but it works. When you fund sewerage, water and roads, you turn zoned but vacant land into build-ready land. That's how you add supply in regional Australia, because regional Australia needs solutions that focus on specific regional needs.</para>
<para>You don't have to look far in my electorate of Indi to see the reality of infrastructure constraints. In Tawonga, new developments are paused because there simply isn't enough water capacity in town. In Benalla, millions of dollars worth of drainage works are required before further homes can be built. Of course, we need to be mindful of how we build and where we build, but without greater investment in critical infrastructure there will be little new housing. We have to have critical investment in infrastructure.</para>
<para>Regional councils can't afford this infrastructure alone. This is where the Commonwealth needs to step in more if we're to make real progress on the housing crisis in regional communities. So I welcomed the government's announcement of the $500 million Housing Support Program in August 2023. It's exactly what I was calling for. It was a good start, but it didn't land where it needed to, in specifically targeting regional Australia. The coalition committed $5 billion to enabling infrastructure during the recent election, and I hope that as the member for Fadden and his colleagues continue to work through their policy review they hang on to this one.</para>
<para>We're also now a couple of years past the creation of the government's flagship housing policy, the Housing Australia Future Fund . I worked constructively on that legislation and secured amendments to put regional voices on the record. I also sought to guarantee a fair share of funding for regional Australia. While the government would not back those improvements, I'm going to keep pushing them for stronger, targeted regional funding. Unfortunately, the jury is still out on the HAFF. For most Australians, it is unclear how this $10 billion policy has delivered and what it will deliver. It's not clear how communities in my electorate have benefitted or will benefit. If the government wants ongoing support for its HAFF, it's going to need to do a whole lot more to communicate how and where it's making a difference. If the HAFF doesn't start making serious progress, we have little chance of meeting the government's target of 1.2 million homes by 2030. Ambition is well and good, but it's getting investment into the regions, where funding is desperately needed, that will make a difference. The path is not to abandon or undermine the target, as the opposition seeks to do, but to do everything we can to meet it.</para>
<para>So what needs to change for regional Australia? First, establish a regional housing infrastructure fund. Open it to local governments to co-fund the infrastructure that makes developments viable at scale. Second, ensure that 30 per cent of housing funding flows to the regions, because that's where 30 per cent of the people live. Third, we should require Housing Australia and its investment mandate to explicitly recognise enabling infrastructure as an eligible activity. The housing crisis does not stop at the limits of Sydney or Melbourne. In Indi, the housing crisis makes it harder for health services to recruit, for farmers to find workers and for families to find somewhere to call home. We can change that if we stop treating the regions as an afterthought. We need to centre regional housing and investment in the critical infrastructure that's holding back new homes right now across rural and regional Australia.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:06</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr GEORGANAS</name>
    <name.id>DZY</name.id>
    <electorate>Adelaide</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The great Australian dream has traditionally been to own your own home. That is the dream of every young person who's just finishing school and who's starting work to get a deposit together and buy themselves a house. And there's no doubt that there is a housing crisis and a housing problem that we're facing, and this government is doing all it can to overcome that challenge. But that's not to say that this problem began in May 2022, when Labor came to this side of the House and formed government. This has been an ongoing issue for many years. I recall the debates mainly tailored around homelessness in the Abbott-Turnbull-Morrison years and even in the Howard years. We know for a fact that traditionally, by the coalition side, it was to handball it to the states. I remember many questions being asked in this place by the then Labor opposition. I recall the answers from this side of the House from the coalition government of the time, wiping their hands clean of housing and saying, 'This is solely an issue for the states to combat.'</para>
<para>In my home state of South Australia, in 1993, when the Brown-Olsen Liberal government came to power, right through to 2002, when the Rann Labor government came to power, 10,000 public housing, houses and housing stock was sold off—10,000! You don't rip out a massive hole of 10,000 homes without creating some form of problem. I don't know what it was like in other states, but I can tell you that was the case.</para>
<para>As I said, there is no doubt there is a housing problem. All of us in this place, as we go doorknocking, speak to people in forums et cetera, know that it's harder for young people to buy a home. I also hear from young people themselves who apply for the rental properties with dozens of other people competing for that very same property. And it's not just young Australians. Families with kids are worried that, as rents go up, they may be forced to move at the whim of a landlord, and they feel bad that they can't give their child the stability they enjoyed as children.</para>
<para>On this side of the House, we understand profoundly how upsetting it is for families, as opposed to the others, who for nine wasted years only built 373 affordable homes over that entire period. During this term of parliament, they've continued to show that they don't understand what needs to be done. Only last week in the other place they tried to completely scrap the Commonwealth housing agenda. They tried to scrap five per cent deposits for first home buyers; they tried to scrap the Help to Buy program, helping the people who need it most; they also tried to scrap the social and affordable homes we're already delivering, thanks to the Housing Australia Future Fund.</para>
<para>We know that the long-term fix for housing is to build more homes. We know that we have to build more homes and we have to encourage everything from private enterprise to governments to absolutely build those homes. We on this side have an ambitious national target. We're determined, together with the states and the territories, to build 1.2 million new homes. That's the only way we can solve this housing crisis. We need more stock, and we need to work in partnership with all levels of government—local government and state governments—and the private sector to get those homes built.</para>
<para>In South Australia, a former colleague from this House, the Hon. Nick Champion, is their Minister for Housing and Urban Development, the Minister for Housing Infrastructure and also the Minister for Planning. Combining these portfolios under one minister makes perfect sense. We, the federal government, have been working very closely with the South Australian state government. In my electorate of Adelaide, I've been pleased to join the minister on a number of occasions to launch projects such as UnitingSA's Uniting on Second, in Renewal SA's Bowden Precinct, creating and providing more affordable homes.</para>
<para>More than half a million homes have been built nationwide since Labor were elected. We're delivering 55,000 social and affordable homes, thanks to programs like the HAFF that the opposition have tried to tear down. We have a plan to make it easier: lower deposits, through our five per cent deposit scheme; smaller mortgages for 40,000 Australians, through Help to Buy; and a $10 billion investment into 100,000 homes. <inline font-style="italic">(Time expired)</inline></para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:11</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr SMALL</name>
    <name.id>291406</name.id>
    <electorate>Forrest</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>It's interesting to hear the member opposite reflect on his experience in South Australia, because mine, coming from the great state of Western Australia, couldn't be more different. Some nine years after the Labor Party came to government in WA, there are now fewer social homes in that state than there were when the coalition last left office in 2017. The honourable member reflected on targets, ambitions and aspirations, and it seems to be a recurrent theme, whether it's in housing or emissions, that we talk a big game but that the reality experienced by Australians is a sad miss on that high bar.</para>
<para>We, on this side of the House, as Liberals, want this country to be a country of homeownership—not because it should be easy, but because, if you do the right thing, if you work hard and save to build a better future for your family, then you, too, should be able to join the league of homeownership in this country. Of course, there are circumstances in which it suits a particular person at that phase of their life to rent or to board with family, friends or someone else. But the reality is that the market for housing in Australia has been distorted by the Labor Party spending more taxpayer money than ever before, and, at the same time, we're achieving worse outcomes in housing than ever before. The simple reality is that—and the Parliamentary Library has belled the cat—some $60 billion has been shovelled out the door by the Labor government; that's $23 billion in the budget, but of course some $34.4 billion has been just quietly snuck off to the side of the budget.</para>
<para>That is at a time when there are fewer homes being built in this country than under the previous coalition government, because we understand that you have to back the private sector to do what it does well. You have to get out of the way of developers—whether they be mums and dads looking to earn a little bit more through a side-hustle, all the way through to our biggest developers—to ensure that the supply of housing meets demand. That's the supply side, of course.</para>
<para>The reality is that this government has also overseen a record surge in demand for housing through net overseas migration. I note that, in this debate today, those on the government benches have studiously avoided talking about the other side of the equation. This is a market. It's supply and demand. You can't tackle one side and completely ignore the other. But the reality is, as I say, there's more money going out the door, more people coming to this country and fewer homes being built, and yet they wonder why house prices are through the roof and rents aren't far behind. In just three years, their first term, the government has presided over the biggest boom in Australia's population since the end of the Second World War. At the same time, the housing industry in Australia has delivered fewer homes.</para>
<para>So, as I say, it is no wonder that we have a very serious problem. But it shouldn't come as a galloping shock to those opposite, because Treasury gave them the advice that said that they would fail to meet their own aspirational target of some 1.2 million new homes by 2029. Since Labor came to power, not only have they had their own Treasury telling them that they're not going to meet this, we've seen building construction prices up by 20 per cent; homelessness getting worse, not better; and the lawlessness, thuggery, intimidation and rorts perpetrated by the CFMEU getting worse, not better, because of course one of the first things they did was to bin the ABCC. So we took away the cop on the beat trying to keep the construction industry clean. We've had record migration. We've had a collapse in the supply of new housing. Yet, still, we hear all this talk about aspiration, ambition and doing more than ever.</para>
<para>The reality is that Australians don't sleep at night under a roof of hot air from this government. They need a home to live in.</para>
<para>The coalition is a party that believes in homeownership because the home can be a cornerstone for a family and its place in the world and of course a platform from which we can raise kids and send them off into the world. Yet the reality is that, in my electorate of Forrest, I keep hearing about people with jobs and kids who are forced to live in cars in car parks. It is a shame on this government.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:16</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms WITTY</name>
    <name.id>316660</name.id>
    <electorate>Melbourne</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to speak about Australia's housing crisis and the action this government is taking to combat it. We are building more homes, supporting renters and investing in social and affordable housing at a scale not seen in decades. This progress is making a real difference in everyday lives, because every house built by this government is proof that progress is not just possible, it is happening.</para>
<para>That progress matters, because housing is now a life-defining challenge for so many Australians. People are working hard and doing everything right. Still, they have not been able to find a place to call home. Young people line up around the block for rental inspections. Families who once would have owned a home now find themselves in long-term rentals. Parents tell me that they cannot give their children the stable home that they grew up in.</para>
<para>The Albanese Labor government understands how hard this is. We have a $43 billion housing agenda that is tackling the crisis from every angle. The Commonwealth is no longer a bystander in this challenge, and we are the most ambitious government on housing since the post-war period.</para>
<para>At the centre of this work is building more homes. More homes mean more affordability for everyone. Through the National Housing Accord, we are working with the states and territories, councils and industry. The goal is 1.2 million new homes by 2029. We are cutting red tape, training more tradies and delivering the infrastructure to unlock supply. The Albanese government is directly supporting the delivery of 55,000 social and affordable homes. The Housing Australia Future Fund, the HAFF, is driving that work. It is funding homes for people who have been locked out of the market through no fault of their own. It supports the nurses, teachers and key workers who hold our community together, helping them live near the people they care for and close to the places where their work changes lives. In Victoria, federal investment supports the Big Housing Build, and, in my electorate of Melbourne, projects in Carlton and Fitzroy are replacing outdated housing with modern, secure homes.</para>
<para>Labor is backing homebuyers. The five per cent deposit scheme began on 1 October. It was delivered months ahead of schedule, and now first home buyers are cutting years off the time it takes to save a deposit and avoiding paying mortgage insurance. We are also rolling out Help to Buy to help low- and middle-income earners purchase a home with a smaller deposit and a smaller mortgage. The government has delivered the largest increase to Commonwealth rent assistance in 30 years, a rise of more than 40 per cent since returning to government in 2022. This is real relief for more than half-a-million households.</para>
<para>Social and affordable housing is at the heart of our government's plan. Affordable housing gives people on modest incomes a chance to build a life without sacrificing everything else. Social housing provides safety for those in greatest need. It supports women and children leaving domestic violence. It protects older women, the fastest-growing group at risk of homelessness. The only real answer to homelessness is housing.</para>
<para>Across Victoria, demand remains high. More than 63,000 applicants sit on the social housing register. Every new home built under the HAFF is another family with stability, another child with space to grow, another community made stronger. In Melbourne I see the impact every day. My work is to make sure new developments include social and affordable homes. This is work that means a great deal to me. Before entering parliament I helped to raise a pipeline of more than $110 million through the Homes for Homes model, creating real pathways to safe and secure housing for more Australians.</para>
<para>The next phase of this plan will keep building on that progress. We will expand the HAFF pipeline, we will strengthen renters' protections through a national rental framework, and we will continue to grow social and affordable housing each year. The goal is simple: every Australia deserves a safe, secure, affordable place to call home. Behind every policy, every number, every brick, there is a person waiting for a key. Our job is to make sure they get it.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>F2S</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The time allotted for this debate has expired. The debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next sitting.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Albanese Government</title>
          <page.no>49</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:21</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr SOON</name>
    <name.id>298618</name.id>
    <electorate>Banks</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) 3 November 2025 marks six months since the federal election; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the Government is delivering on the commitments it made to the Australian people by:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) strengthening Medicare;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) ensuring Australians earn more and keep more of what they earn;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iii) easing cost of living pressures; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iv) building a Future Made in Australia; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) acknowledges that while the Government is focused on building Australia's future, the Opposition is focused on themselves.</para></quote>
<para>I am pleased to move the motion before the House today, recognising six months since the federal election and how the Albanese Labor government is delivering on its second term of government. The election in May was a historic moment in Australia's political history. The Australian people returned a significant Labor majority, recognising the importance of protecting Medicare, easy cost-of-living pressures and investing in a future made in Australia, and that is exactly what we are delivering.</para>
<para>On Strengthening Medicare, last Saturday our latest reforms targeting improving bulk-billing rates came into effect. For the first time the bulk-billing incentive has been expanded to all Australians, and a boost introduced to payments for practices that bulk-bill every single patient. This investment will deliver 18 million more bulk-billed GP visits each year nationwide. In my electorate of Banks alone, 14 GP practices have already indicated their intent to become Medicare bulk-billing practices, making it easier for people in my community to see a doctor without fearing the cost. This is combined with 50 more fully bulk-billed urgent care clinics across the country, medicines made even cheaper from 1 January next year, a $500 million program for women's health, and more free and accessible mental health support. Together, these initiatives are part of Labor's plans to deliver for the health of every Australian.</para>
<para>Easing cost-of-living pressures is at the top of the agenda for so many Australians, and rightly so. For the government, this begins with responsible management of the economy and the budget. The results already speak for themselves: getting inflation down to half of what was inherited from the previous government; seven straight quarters of real-wages growth; the lowest average unemployment of any government in the last 50 years; and more than 1.1 million jobs created in just three years. Alongside two budget surpluses and a single deficit that was significantly smaller than originally projected, the improvement of the overall budget position by $209 billion, and the lowering of the national debt by $188 billion, this is a record that the former coalition government could only dream of.</para>
<para>As a result of our sensible and considered approach, we have also been able to roll out cost-of-living relief for all Australians. At the centre of this are the multiple rounds of tax cuts for every taxpayer already delivered, with two more rounds to come in 2026 and 2027, and supporting raising the pay of minimum wage workers and award workers earlier this year, while protecting penalty rates as well as quarterly energy bill relief, taking money straight off of people's expense bills. Importantly, the first piece of legislation in this new parliament was a 20 per cent cut to student debt for every Australian with a HECS balance. We delivered as promised, making life easier for young Australians. Australians know that, with a Labor government, they will have the leadership that is focused on ensuring that they earn more and keep more of what they earn. Further, the Future Made in Australia will maximise the economic and industrial benefits as we move towards net zero by supporting clean energy and advanced manufacturing.</para>
<para>While there are some people in this place who prefer to talk down our manufacturing industry, this government is doing the opposite and working to make sure Australian people and Australian workers reap the economic rewards of Australia becoming a renewable energy superpower. Unfortunately, not everyone is as focused as we are on this side of the House. While the Australian people sent those opposite a clear message at the election, the Liberals and the Nationals simply aren't listening. In recent weeks, we've seen the Liberals and the Nationals battling with and amongst each other over which leftovers of the Dutton era they want to serve up to the Australian people once again. Whether it's abandoning net zero, reviving the doomed nuclear scheme or just wanting to fight pointless culture wars, there is a clear pattern. From the—</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>F2S</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Sorry. Is there a seconder for the motion?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Ng</name>
    <name.id>316052</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion.</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>F2S</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>And you reserve your right to speak?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Ng</name>
    <name.id>316052</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I reserve my right to speak.</para>
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<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:27</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr PASIN</name>
    <name.id>240756</name.id>
    <electorate>Barker</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I understand the reluctance to second this congratulatory motion! The member for Banks just accused me of not listening. I listened intently to his five-minute dissertation. What I heard, what I'm sure people in the gallery heard and what the people of Australia heard is: 'Australians have never had it better.' If you believe that, you're talking to a different subset of Australians than me. Electricity prices are through the roof. I want to talk about Medicare, because in my community it's a real issue right now. But the member opposite also talked about a future made in Australia, and those of us on this side, he suggests, want to talk down manufacturing. We want to talk it up; it's those on the other side who want to close down Australian manufacturing. If you don't believe that, go and talk to any smelter in Australia right now. Tomago might be the place where you'd start, but it's not the place where you'd finish.</para>
<para>I'm not here to address the member for Banks's comments, enthusiastic as he is to talk up the progress of the Albanese Labor government over the last six months. But I want to address the first point he makes—the government delivering, he says, on their election commitments. The first proof point he points to is Strengthening Medicare. I want to take him on a journey to my electorate. South-east South Australia contains the second-largest city in South Australia, my hometown of Mount Gambier. On 3 May 2025, Mount Gambier had an urgent care clinic. That urgent care clinic—that Medicare urgent care clinic—was closed in June. Closed. It never met its obligatory opening hours, those extended hours that never were, but it literally closed in June. Over the six months, if that had occurred, you'd think that it would have reopened, given the government proudly claims it has strengthened Medicare over the course of the last six months. I'm here to tell the member for Banks and all those opposite that it remains closed. Closed!</para>
<para>Thankfully those opposite have been able to—in the five months since it has closed and the six months that they've been in government—issue a new tender for the urgent care clinic in Mount Gambier, but I'm told on the grapevine, quietly, despite the fact that the minister issued a press release celebrating the tender, the facility won't be open until next year. We are at about 200 days right now that that facility has been closed. The weeds are up to my waist. I offered to go with my whipper snipper and tidy it up, but the offer wasn't accepted. There have been 200 days to this point, but it will be something more like seven months before that facility reopens.</para>
<para>That would be bad enough, but right now in South Australia's second-largest city, the state that the minister relevant to this portfolio hails from, every single GP clinic in that community has issued a public statement that they're not able to accept any new patients. I had a constituent contact me recently who is a patient of a particular clinic, but, because his doctor has retired, he's no longer able to return to the clinic. Do I blame the clinics? Absolutely not. Do I put a call out to people living in that community to show respect to frontline staff at those clinics who are often subjected to rather terse conversations when they have to inform a person living in that community: 'Sorry, you can't see a doctor. You won't be able to see a GP; you'll have to drive 100 kilometres that way or 50 kilometres that way, or, better still, travel to Adelaide.' Do I put that call out? I do.</para>
<para>I'll tell you who I apportion the blame to: Minister Butler.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr PASIN</name>
    <name.id>240756</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The member for Banks scoffs, but hear me out. One of his first actions as a minister, in 2022, was to change the distribution priority areas, meaning that a doctor who was obligated to work in an area of need, like Mount Gambier in my electorate, was no longer required to practice in Mount Gambier—they could practice in Adelaide. The member opposite scoffs, but I can tell you that on that day I received two phone calls, from the two largest clinics in Mount Gambier. Do you know what those phone calls said? 'Tony, we've just had a number of doctors resign en masse and we won't be able to service the people of Mount Gambier.' He's to blame. <inline font-style="italic">(Time expired)</inline></para>
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</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:32</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BURNS</name>
    <name.id>278522</name.id>
    <electorate>Macnamara</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>It's always fascinating to listen to the member for Barker or, as we like to think of him, the numbers man for the member for Hume. The member for Barker is up and about. He might have a busy couple of weeks coming up as the member for Hume's numbers man. He might be rolling the sleeves up and making a few phone calls to some of his colleagues. I know the Leader of the Opposition's team must have been absolutely thrilled that the member for Barker was the member for Hume's numbers man. That would have been one of the first signs that maybe they were going to have a successful campaign.</para>
<para>Let's move onto more important things. I'm so proud to be part of this motion led by the member for Banks, who is an outstanding new member of this place and one who is going to make a huge contribution to this parliament and serve the people of the community I know he loves and respects. And I know and he feels grateful to be here in this place.</para>
<para>It has been six months since the election. When you think about the job that the Australian people asked us to do, it was all of the simple things that would make a meaningful difference to the lives of the people that we are privileged to represent—all of the simple things that would help Australians with the cost of living, with getting through the day and helping their families and communities get through and do in this amazing country of ours.</para>
<para>I was speaking to thousands of people in the lead-up to the election, asking them simple questions like: 'What matters to you? What do you care about? What's really on your agenda?' I remember speaking to hundreds of young people at university, people with student debt, and the thing that came back was, 'Look, 20 per cent off HECS—that sounds pretty good.' It wasn't everything but it was meaningful, and it was the first piece of legislation that we brought into this place. Over the next few weeks, students are going to be receiving text messages with the amount coming off their HECS. That is a fantastic legacy and one that is going to save people thousands of dollars in student debt.</para>
<para>Of course, there was another big policy that kept coming back. When I spoke to so many young couples in my electorate, the thing that they said time and time again was, 'Look, we'd just love to be able to buy our own home.' In Macnamara, we have such a high percentage of people who are renters, and we know that the big barrier of getting into the housing market is saving up enough money to buy a deposit. That's why the five per cent deposits and two per cent deposits for single parents are so important. We want people to be paying off their own mortgage, not somebody else's, and I know that this policy is going to help thousands of people get into homeownership.</para>
<para>Then, as the year finishes, we'll also be opening up our shared-equity scheme, our Help to Buy Scheme that's going to help people get into the market with around 70 per cent of the total cost of the price of the home, which is another fantastic investment—one that happens in states across the country and one that, obviously, those opposite were very quick to criticise. They're very quick to criticise the Home Guarantee Scheme, very quick to criticise any effort to help Australians get into the housing market. If you want to see a reflection of just how out of touch those opposite are, you just have to listen to their commentary saying that the Help to Buy Scheme or the Home Guarantee Scheme is all about the sons and daughters of billionaires. It's just ridiculous. We, on this side of the House, are proud to do our bit to help ensure that people are able to get into the housing market.</para>
<para>Also, I spoke about it last week, but I went to Elsternwick Medical Centre, one of the big medical centres just on the border of Macnamara and Goldstein which, thanks to our investments in Medicare, has now become 100 per cent bulk-billed. We opened up a headspace in South Melbourne. The headspace in Elsternwick has also had a revamp. We are investing in free, local, high-quality healthcare services, and you only have to look all around the electorate of Macnamara to see that coming to fruition. The community is answering with their feet. Almost 80,000 consultations happened last year, and we're expecting even more, with 100 per cent of them being bulk-billed at the Elsternwick Medical Centre.</para>
<para>Obviously, there are a number of local commitments, as well, that we are getting busy on in Macnamara. We are redoing the South Melbourne Town Hall for the Australian National Academy of Music. We are restoring the See Yup Temple in South Melbourne. We're investing in the Jewish arts quarter. We're investing in JOY Media, an amazing community radio station for the LGBTIQ community. There is so much going on, and it's been an extremely busy six months, but the work is just getting started. When the Australian people at the election spoke, they said, 'We want a government that is focused on the things that make a difference to the lives of us in our communities,' and that's exactly the work that we are doing.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:37</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr HAINES</name>
    <name.id>282335</name.id>
    <electorate>Indi</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for Banks for reminding us that today marks six months since the federal election, and it's a timeline moment to assess how this government is responding to the mandate given to it by the Australian people. Building Australia's future includes investing in infrastructure, services and economic settings that shape the quality of life across the nation, and I will continue to push this government to deliver more for rural, regional and remote Australia so that we can build the hospitals and homes we need, secure the workforce required for essential services and ensure that the energy transition delivers lasting benefits while protecting nature and ensuring comprehensive community consultation.</para>
<para>Building this future also means safeguarding our democracy and the pillars of accountability and transparency—pillars that foster trust in our institutions and our elected representatives. In opposition, this government promised a new era of transparency, and I applauded the government, in its early days, in delivering the National Anti-Corruption Commission, a long-overdue reform and a cornerstone, now, of our integrity framework. But this achievement alone does not absolve the government from action on other integrity measures. One year ago, I delivered a speech evaluating the government's performance on integrity and transparency. Just last week, the Centre for Public Integrity published its integrity scorecard, and, frankly, the results really do make for very sober reading. On five of six measures, this government is failing or stalling its commitment to fairer, more transparent government. I share the centre's view:</para>
<quote><para class="block">With genuine reform and leadership, the Government can still deliver the transparent and accountable democracy Australians were promised.</para></quote>
<para>I urge them to do so.</para>
<para>There have been wins. The establishment of the Independent Parliamentary Standards Commission is commendable. It will ensure all of us—each and every one of us—are accountable for our conduct. But there are many areas in which this government is lagging on integrity and transparency. Just last week we saw this government's recalcitrance in its refusal to release the Briggs review, more than two years after we were told it would be made public. This government talked a big game on ending a culture of jobs for mates, but we're yet to see any meaningful action.</para>
<para>If we are to ensure Australians can keep more of what they earn and deliver more to ease cost-of-living pressures, effective spending of public money is more important than ever, yet pork-barrelling persists. The government recently released guidelines for a new $550 million program to deliver its election commitments. Though branded as merit based, the government's Major and Local Community Infrastructure Program is an invitation-only program retrofitted to deliver the government's hand-picked election commitments. In the last term of parliament, two programs disproportionally targeted marginal and target electorates.</para>
<para>But perhaps the greatest disappointment of the Albanese government's second term so far on this half-anniversary is its unjustified attack on the freedom-of-information system. The right to access government information is a key check and balance on the executive and Public Service. Admittedly, some areas of the FOI system do need reform, but the government is once again using it as a cover for more secrecy. Expanding cabinet exemptions, for example, directly contravenes the recommendations of the robodebt royal commission and will further obscure public knowledge of how important decisions are affecting our country and how they are made. This bill has no friends. In fact, it is desperate and dateless. It has no friends outside the walls of government. The government should drop it and go back to the drawing board.</para>
<para>I continue to implore the government to act on protecting whistleblowers. Little has changed in the past year to further the Prime Minister's commitment to expand whistleblower protections and the public interest test. On electoral reform, this government has little credibility. Under the guise of transparency, the government passed significant reforms that, frankly, entrench the major parties' financial advantage. Instead of recognising that more Australians than ever are voting outside of the major parties—or maybe because of this—the government negotiated a stitch-up with the opposition to make it harder for new players to get elected.</para>
<para>So there is much more work to be done if this government wants to leave a positive legacy on integrity. They've taken a few too many wrong turns, but there's still time to right the ship, so I encourage every member of the government to steer in a better direction on integrity and transparency.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:42</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr GARLAND</name>
    <name.id>295588</name.id>
    <electorate>Chisholm</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I would like to thank my friend the member for Banks for bringing this motion to the House. Of course, today marks six months since the re-election of the Albanese Labor government. This is a privilege that we do not take for granted, and we know how much work there is to do to deliver on the policies that the Australian people voted for on 3 May. It's really important that our job as a government remains squarely focused on the people in our communities—on Australians and their issues. We're not interested in manufacturing culture wars or talking endlessly about our internal tensions; we as a team are just focused on delivering for all Australians, supporting aspirations and providing opportunities for all.</para>
<para>We've been hard at work, building on the strong foundations laid during our first term to create a better, fairer and more prosperous Australia for everyone. Over the first six months of this term, we've remained focused on those commitments we have made. I promised that the first law we would pass in the new parliament would be to cut student debt by 20 per cent, and that's exactly what we did, with over three million Australians saving an average of $5½ thousand. In my own electorate of Chisholm, 26,053 people benefited from this change, and that is one of the largest numbers of recipients among Victorian electorates. That shows just how important that policy is, and I'm really proud I was able to deliver for my community.</para>
<para>We're delivering real help with cost of living. We're making medicines cheaper, boosting the minimum wage, protecting penalty rates and expanding paid parental leave while adding superannuation to it, which is really critical for addressing the inequality that many women experience in their retirements. Just last week we introduced legislation to deliver superannuation payments on payday. This is going to make a really big difference too. It is a significant reform that will see young people, casual workers and women workers particularly advantaged. We're strengthening Medicare. We're making sure that every Australian can access quality, affordable health care when and where they need it, with the biggest investment in bulk-billing in Australian history and 50 new urgent care clinics to add to the 87 we've already opened around the nation. This takes pressure off hospitals and it helps more people see a doctor for free. We've delivered $500 million for women's health. We're investing in 31 new and upgraded Medicare mental health centres, expanding headspace centres and training more mental health professionals. We're making it easier for Australians to buy a home, with five per cent deposits for all first home buyers, and we're building more homes right across Australia.</para>
<para>Our plan is all about helping Australians to earn more and keep more of what they earn, with secure jobs and responsible economic management that supports wage growth while cutting income taxes. Our government is focused on building Australia's future, easing cost-of-living pressures and building that prosperous future for all.</para>
<para>In my own electorate, I know how much our policies are benefiting the community. Since we've made medicines cheaper, more than $425 million has been saved in Victoria on 69 million cheaper scripts. This is saving money for our communities and protecting their health. We know that on Saturday many GP practices across the nation chose to become fully bulk-billing practices thanks to our record investment in Medicare. This is a really big deal and it is really important for our nation. I've had the Minister for Health and Ageing visit practices with me in my community, and I know what a difference this is going to make. We have our urgent care clinic in Mount Waverley, which I know is very well utilised, and we've got another to come in the Stonnington council area too. We will be getting a Medicare mental health clinic in Glen Iris to join the existing mental health infrastructure funded by our government, such as the headspace, which is just a couple of doors down from my office in Mount Waverley.</para>
<para>There are many other projects we're delivering too. When I'm here and when I'm in my community, I'm squarely focused on the delivery of the commitments I've made to my community. The coalition, those opposite, didn't seem to learn anything in the last six months. They're more divided and divisive than ever, but that's okay, because what I do every day is listen to my community and focus on delivering the commitments that I was really proud to campaign on earlier this year.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:47</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr REBELLO</name>
    <name.id>316547</name.id>
    <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>It's telling that it's at the top of the priority list of those opposite to move motions in this place which pat them on the back and congratulate them on their time here as the government for the last six months. As the federal member for McPherson, I'd like to start by saying that six months is quite the milestone since the last election, and I thank the people of McPherson for giving me the opportunity to represent them in this place. It's an honour that I never take for granted. But, in light of the motion that we're seeing here today, it also reminds us of the six-month record of this Albanese Labor government. It's a record that the Australian people can see is not good.</para>
<para>The Albanese Labor government has failed on a number of fronts, particularly on the economy, the cost of living, health and defence—just to name a few items on this terrible scorecard. In relation to the economy and government spending, we've seen spending balloon to 27 per cent of GDP, with revenue limping along at 25.5 per cent. Aside from a temporary spike during the global pandemic, that means that government expenditure is at its highest levels since the Second World War.</para>
<para>When I came to this place and delivered my maiden speech, I spoke about the fact that we want to make sure that government doesn't leave a burden for its future generations. We've seen the gap alone adding $40 billion a year to the national credit card. We're seeing debt over a trillion dollars; it will be $1.2 trillion at the time of the next election. What does that mean? It means that, for each of us here, every 60 seconds—it looks like the power prices have gone up too much for this place as well!</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>DZY</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I'm sure the lights will come back on soon.</para>
</interjection>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr REBELLO</name>
    <name.id>316547</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>It means that, every 60 seconds, we have $50,000 of expenditure just on the interest we need to pay. We have a culture of dependence. Half of Australian voters now rely on the government for their primary source of income. That is not sustainable. We need a government that's going to increase the economic pie and generate wealth.</para>
<para>As I said in my maiden speech, governments don't create wealth; businesses do. It's the private sector that needs to be supported and incentivised. Instead, what have we seen this government do? The private sector, where real wealth is created, is shrinking, with only one in five new jobs being created there while the rest are taxpayer funded. I don't think those opposite had in mind when they put forward this motion that we now need to celebrate being the country with the largest proportionate public service in the developed world. I have respect for the Public Service; my mother has served in the Australian Public Service for over 30 years. But we need to make sure that we generate wealth in this country, and the private sector is the place to do so.</para>
<para>On the cost-of-living front: in my electorate and across the country, food is up by 15 per cent, housing by 19 per cent, insurance by 37 per cent, gas by 38 per cent, and—as we've seen in this place today—electricity is up 39 per cent. The lights are out!</para>
<para>On the health front: in my electorate of McPherson, despite those opposite claiming all the credit for Medicare and all the credit for health and health management, bulk-billing in my community has dropped 12 per cent since Labor came to government. In some communities across Australia—and I feel for our regional colleagues—that amount has dropped nearly 20 per cent.</para>
<para>On defence: the men and women of the Australian Defence Force represent the height of our national character, but they need to be supported. We have countries and allies around the world looking at us, asking us to join their path of leadership and commit a certain amount of money to ensure that our Defence Force is well-equipped, and we're not doing that. Australia barely spends two per cent.</para>
<para>This motion moved by the Labor Party does nothing but congratulate themselves on this horrific record. The Prime Minister appears to be living in some sort of dangerous fantasy, oblivious to soaring debt, rising taxes, bloated government, collapsing productivity and energy delusions. For the sake of the Australian people, I hope the government's next six months are better than the last.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:53</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr NG</name>
    <name.id>316052</name.id>
    <electorate>Menzies</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank my friend the member for Banks for moving this motion to mark six months since the re-election of the Albanese Labor government. While those opposite cherrypick facts and only look at the negatives, we haven't wasted a day delivering what we promised at the election.</para>
<para>As members opposite would know, on the Saturday just passed, 1 November, we delivered on our commitment, with the largest investment in Medicare in its history, to triple the bulk-billing incentive to address exactly the kinds of declines in bulk-billing rates the member opposite raised. We do things about the issues facing Australia; those opposite just complain about them. We know our reforms will mean that there's more bulk-billing and that, by 2030, nine out of 10 GP visits will be bulk-billed. This includes 17 clinics in my electorate who have expressed interest in going fully bulk-billed—more free GP visits for people across my electorate in Box Hill, Blackburn and Doncaster.</para>
<para>We're continuing to roll out our other reforms. We delivered 87 Medicare urgent care clinics in our last term of government, and we're slated to open 50 more across the country in this term. We're delivering cheaper medicines as well so that Australians will save on out-of-pocket costs, with PBS listed medications costing only $25 per script to fill.</para>
<para>Not only are we delivering, but we've moved forward some of our commitments so that from 1 October we're helping Australians buy their first home with only a five per cent deposit. This will cut waiting times in saving for a deposit and, importantly, save on expensive mortgage lenders insurance. It will get first home buyers into their first home sooner and give them a leg-up over investors. Nationally, over 190,000 first home buyers have taken advantage of this scheme, including 300 in my electorate of Menzies. I'm so glad that there are more people buying their first home thanks to our support.</para>
<para>We've also rolled out the solar home battery program. It has been a huge success. Over 100,000 people around the country have taken up our 30 per cent rebate, that price point providing a real incentive for them to get a solar home battery. It's good for the environment. It's good for the hip pocket. When I've been out doorknocking in my electorate, in Warrandyte, so many people expressed interest in getting in on it. This included Glen in Templestowe Lower, who was really proud to show us his solar home battery system and talk about how it's going to save him hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars per year on his power bills. In Menzies, 536 people have got themselves a solar home battery—again, thanks to our reforms.</para>
<para>Last Friday, we introduced the environmental protection biodiversity and conservation bill into this parliament, delivering on our election promise that we were going to prioritise the environment and that we were going to make sure that we're protecting Australia's beautiful natural environment and unique biodiversity. This will, importantly, create an independent environmental protection agency. Again, it's because we listen to our voters and we listen to the Australian people. I was out doorknocking in Surrey Hills on Saturday, a part of my electorate that cares deeply about climate change and cares deeply about the environment. Again and again, I heard from people who said: 'Yes, we need an independent environmental protection agency. We don't want the Liberals and the Greens to team up to block this important legislation again.' The message was really clear—we need to get this done.</para>
<para>We're also getting on with delivering election commitments in Menzies. In the election campaign, we committed $1.1 billion to mental health support. It's a really important area of health care. This includes new and expanded Medicare mental health centres, which will include one in Box Hill in my electorate of Menzies and a further 31 around the country. We're also supporting organisations to get their paperwork in to deliver on our election commitments. That includes for Box Hill United soccer club to resurface Sparks Reserve for a synthetic pitch so that they can play more of the year and practise more of the year. Soccer is absolutely huge in Melbourne's east, so we want to make sure that more people can get out and play. We've committed $3.5 million for Bulleen Templestowe Basketball Club for female-friendly change rooms and $187,500 for Warrandyte Arts to upgrade their pottery centres, and there are many more election commitments that we're delivering for the people of Menzies and for Australia.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>DZY</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The time allotted for this debate has expired. There being no further speakers, the debate is adjourned, and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for a later hour.</para>
</interjection>
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        <page.no>55</page.no>
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          <title>Telecommunications Legislation Amendment (Triple Zero Custodian and Emergency Calling Powers) Bill 2025, Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Amendment (Board of Management Functions) Bill 2025</title>
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            <title>Assent</title>
            <page.no>55</page.no>
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          <title>Administrative Review Tribunal and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025</title>
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            <title>Consideration in Detail</title>
            <page.no>55</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:59</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms SPENDER</name>
    <name.id>286042</name.id>
    <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>by leave—I move amendments (1) and (2) as circulated in my name together:</para>
<quote><para class="block">(1) Schedule 1, item 16, page 7 (lines 6 to 15), omit subsection 367C(2), substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) An application made to the ART for review of a reviewable migration decision is an <inline font-style="italic">application to be reviewed on the papers</inline> if the decision is a decision to refuse to grant a student visa.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) Schedule 1, item 16, page 7 (lines 24 to 27), omit subsection 367C(4), substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(4) Without limiting paragraph (3)(b), regulations made for the purposes of that paragraph may prescribe kinds of, or circumstances relating to, applications made before, on or after the commencement of those regulations.</para></quote>
<para>I appreciate that we need to create a system that enables decisions to be made efficiently and fairly. I acknowledge the government's point that the Nixon review found that the system of review currently in the ART was being exploited by some to draw out and extend processes again. They particularly highlighted student visas. They recognised that, with student visas now accounting for 40 per cent of all lodgements, this can potentially have the impact of holding genuine reviews that are needed in limbo for months, often at great distress. So I do find there are good grounds for finding efficiencies within the ART system, such as increasing the scope to review cases on the papers.</para>
<para>However, I do currently have concerns about how this legislation is drafted, and these go to the heart of my amendments. There are obvious concerns about mandating that a type of visa class must be decided purely on the papers. As the Law Council of Australia argues, the blanket refusal of oral hearings for all cases represents a 'disproportionate response' to the issue at hand.</para>
<para>That brings me to my amendments. The legislation as currently drafted includes student visas but also allows, within regulations, other visas to be captured by this blanket refusal of oral hearings. I think this is of real concern. A case can be argued that student visas can be determined on the papers, though there are some—I'll be honest—who argue that that is really not the case, particularly seeing that 50 per cent of all study visa cancellations or refusals have been overturned, which says that this is actually an area of great contention.</para>
<para>But the fact that other visas could be included in this could also be problematic. I go back to the Law Council of Australia. While they support the government's decision to exclude protection visas, they argue that it is likely that vulnerable applications could be captured by expanding these powers to other classes, including provisional partner visas, bridging visas and employer sponsored visas. All of these things could be captured without coming back to the House. I'll quote from the Law Council's submission on this bill:</para>
<quote><para class="block">These decisions go to the core of how the Tribunal operates for potentially wide groups of people, and relate to its overall design, as determined by Parliament only a year ago. Such decisions should not be left to delegated legislation.</para></quote>
<para>While I acknowledge that these regulations are disallowable, for something so fundamental to the role of the ART I would agree, again, with the Law Council, who argue that 'decisions that remove the ability of whole classes of individuals to have a hearing should, if included in legislation at all, be determined by parliament under primary legislation'. These reasons and those arguments made by the Law Council have driven me to draft these amendments, which would remove the minister's ability to expand this requirement to other temporary visa classes, instead requiring further changes to be made in primary legislation as recommended by the Law Council.</para>
<para>I think we should take a moment to reflect on what the purpose of the ART is and why this is important. The ART is the final place where individuals who feel that the state has not been fair or accurate in its dealings with them can make a case, and the state has to come up, be honest and adjudicate this fairly to make sure that it has not overreached or made a mistake. This is up for citizens of our community taking those actions . My concern, really, with this legislation in relation to the ART is that it now says to people that they will only be determined on the papers. Vulnerable Australians who may be making those representations to the ART may be representing themselves. I know many from my constituency have gone to the ART and represented themselves. Under this current legislation, they may have no opportunity to be heard, and that this could be extended to other visa classes is of real concern. I argue that the government should, in this case, listen to the Law Council and the protections it is are arguing for, and they should support my amendments in this case.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:04</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms ROWLAND</name>
    <name.id>159771</name.id>
    <electorate>Greenway</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for her contribution. The government will not be supporting these amendments to the Administrative Review Tribunal and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2025. The government considers the regulation-making power necessary to ensure that the government can support the Administrative Review Tribunal to appropriately respond to changes in its case load in a more flexible way. As a regulation it would, of course, be subject to disallowance by the parliament, as is appropriate. Importantly, the ability to apply the 'on the papers' process to other visa types could only apply to reviewable migration decisions, expressly excluding protection visa matters in recognition that these are, generally, more complex.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:05</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms SPENDER</name>
    <name.id>286042</name.id>
    <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I'd like to ask the minister about the case that I'm trying to make in relation to vulnerable Australians who go to the ART to be heard on issues outside of student visas. The fact is that the government has given itself the ability to do this via a regulation to exclude entire classes and to include other groups of applicants who would no longer be able to ever be heard in front of the ART themselves. Consider, particularly, the breadth of vulnerability of some of those people who might be included in that</para>
<para>Why does the government feel it appropriate to do this from a regulatory point of view, as opposed to coming to this parliament and making the case for it? I would love the minister to engage on the question of why the government even drafted and determined the ART in its current form, if it is willing to so quickly go back and say, 'People should no longer have a hearing and we give ourselves, the government, the opportunity to pass regulations on that basis—that whole groups of people no longer have the opportunity to have a hearing.' This is when the ART professionals, looking at the merits of the case, say: 'I have additional questions here. These are important questions. I would like to be able to put them to the applicant. But, under the legislation, this is no longer going to be possible.'</para>
<para>I want to understand which vulnerable groups the government has considered, because the acknowledgement that it's excluded temporary protection visas goes to the point that the government recognises that there are some people who should not be able to be considered only 'on the papers'. My question is: what about those other vulnerable people in those other classes? Why should they not be able to have the opportunity to, at least, be considered for a verbal hearing rather than being excluded by regulation 'on the papers'?</para>
<para>Question negatived.</para>
<para>Bill agreed to.</para>
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            <page.no>57</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:08</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms ROWLAND</name>
    <name.id>159771</name.id>
    <electorate>Greenway</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>by leave—I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this bill be now read a third time.</para></quote>
<para>Question agreed to.</para>
<para>Bill read a third time.</para>
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          <title>Regulatory Reform Omnibus Bill 2025</title>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>57</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:09</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms TEMPLEMAN</name>
    <name.id>181810</name.id>
    <electorate>Macquarie</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>If there's one thing that businesses and individuals have complained about regularly over the 15 years I've been involved in politics, and the 20 years before that that I was in small business—and it's something that we all pretty much agree on—it's the need to reduce red tape. It seems like such an obvious thing to do, but many governments have tried and failed to reduce duplication and inefficiency.</para>
<para>Not only does this bill achieve what many have failed to do but it does it in a context of improving productivity. In fact, it does so much more than that. The Regulatory Reform Omnibus Bill 2025 is the latest example of tangible reform to come out of the Economic Reform Roundtable, which identified that fit-for-purpose regulation is a key enabler for Australia's economic potential. This bill takes a whole-of-government approach to amending regulation to ensure that it remains fit for purpose in this the 21st century. The government understands that regulation that is not fit for purpose or that duplicates processes frustrates Australians and also drives up the cost of doing business. So the aim of these changes is to improve productivity and support economic resilience, without reducing necessary protections.</para>
<para>The bill contains 60 measures that amend 28 acts, repeal two acts and affect the operation of 13 Commonwealth agencies. It reflects our commitment to connecting government services so that Australians can get the help they need faster. But one of the most important things this bill does is provide a first step towards the implementation of a 'tell us once' approach to government services. It supports this idea of just telling us once within Services Australia, reducing the number of times that Australians will be asked to provide the same information across the agency's programs.</para>
<para>I became a big fan of the 'tell us once' principle a few years ago after a visit to Estonia. Estonia has led the world in ensuring that its citizens have a very smooth interaction with government agencies. Now, it isn't appropriate to replicate everything they do, but one of the key things they did was adopt a principle that you have to give a piece of information to government only once. In fact, they go even further, saying that the piece of information has to be useful to at least two government agencies. They have an extraordinary digital system, based on this idea that they call the once-only principle. In fact, the state is not allowed to ask citizens for the same information twice. In other words, if you give your address or a family member's name to the census bureau, the health insurance provider won't ask you for it again later. And no department of any government agency can make citizens repeat information that is already stored in its database or that of some other agency.</para>
<para>Of course, we're not in a position to go quite as far as Estonia has. We have three tiers of government. We have a very different population. But that principle of 'tell us once' is underpinning some of the changes we are supporting here in this bill today. I want to give some specific examples—and I promise, I'm not going to go through the 28 different acts that are amended and the 60 measures, but I am going to give some tangible examples of what's involved. One example of the measures in this bill is about removing barriers to digital evidence of Australian citizenship. In order to do that, we need to amend the Australian Citizenship Act and the Electronic Transactions Act to remove barriers to digital evidence to show that you're an Australian. This paves the way for Home Affairs to develop a technical solution which is going to allow for the issue of digital evidence of your Australian citizenship, making it easier and a more reliable proof of citizenship, obviously reducing the costs, and giving further security for citizens. So the development of a digital solution will be required before digital citizen certificates can be issued to Australian citizens, and of course privacy impacts will be considered during this process.</para>
<para>But to achieve the outcome we have to fix two acts because of stuff that's in them, one that was made in 1999 and one that was made in 2007. That's an example of just one of the 60 changes this bill deals with. Another example—and I've been through them all; there are a number that relate to healthcare identifiers. They're quite technical, so I’m choosing the ones that are reasonably straightforward. This is one I really like, called 'Simplifying information sharing for connected service delivery'. This one involves changes that address a limitation that means that certain officers in Services Australia can't share protected information for the purposes of a Centrelink program or a Medicare program, and that means it limits their ability to deliver programs that meet the end-to-end needs of their customers. So, the change ensures that legal arrangements for sharing protected information are brought into a more contemporary operational structure. It also ensures that the arrangements for recording, disclosing and using protected information for other Centrelink programs and Medicare programs are aligned with the arrangements already in place for a whole lot of other programs.</para>
<para>I'm going to give you an example of this one, because this one involves amending one of the 1999 tax acts, the Paid Parental Leave Act, the Student Assistance Act 1973, the Child Support (Assessment) Act 1989 and the Child Support (Registration and Collection) Act 1988 as well as the Paid Parental Leave Act 2010, which I think I've mentioned twice there. Let's bring it alive with an example. Let's take Michael. He is a mutual customer of both Medicare and Centrelink. He receives a family tax benefit for his seven-year-old child and has a current bank account recorded with Centrelink. He hasn't updated his bank account details with Medicare. Now, he is one of approximately 980,000 Australians who are owed unpaid Medicare benefits totalling more than $270 million. Legislative changes can allow Medicare to access the payment destination information of the current mutual Centrelink customers for the purposes of delivering that unpaid Medicare benefit to people who may not even know that they are eligible for these funds. With these changes, Medicare staff will confirm with Michael that the bank account is the same as the one he has recorded for Centrelink, and he then receives a refund for previous medical costs and appointments. A tiny part of our system where one bit doesn't talk to the other means that we cannot give this streamlined approach through Services Australia.</para>
<para>I've asked, 'Give me tangible examples of how this will actually affect everyday Australians,' and here's another example of this change. Let's take Jane, who's left her family home to escape family and domestic violence. She is afraid that her ex-partner might find her and her child. She changes both her and her child's surnames, moves to a new house and creates her own new bank account. She needs to tell all the government agencies about her updated name, address, bank account and relationship status. Implementing the changes in this bill will support streamlining that information sharing. Instead of needing to contact Centrelink, child support and others separately, she can update her details once and consent to them being updated for other programs also. This is the practical result of just some of the changes contained in this bill.</para>
<para>I want to give one example of this tell-us-once approach which is an amendment to the Social Security (Administration) Act 1999. This will allow the implementation of initial changes to reduce the need for people to provide the same information to Services Australia multiple times, and it may also improve the speed at which their claims are assessed. Currently, in some cases, when a Services Australia customer wants to transfer from one social security payment to another, more appropriate one, they're required to submit a new claim and provide information that has previously been provided. They need to replicate that. When they're processing transfers, staff must conduct checks relating to many elements of the claim. This is—as it was the first time the customer did it—a very time-consuming process both for the person involved and for the staff. It can, and I know it does, cause frustration for my constituents who've had to do this, to provide information they've already given—people literally say to us, 'But they already have that; they already know that information about me'—even if it's the same agency but they're seeking a different payment. By improving the legal arrangements for transferring customers between payments, we can alleviate these frustrations for both my constituents and also the people who work so hard at Services Australia.</para>
<para>These are just some of the examples in this omnibus bill. Hopefully, I've got time to finish with one other example, which relates to an area that every MP knows is highly sensitive: childcare subsidisation and child wellbeing. This is about changing language in our legislation. It's an amendment to one of the family assistance tax system acts. It relates to a child at serious risk of abuse or neglect, but it changes that phrase to 'a child in need of wellbeing support'. Let me explain what this is. We want to encourage families who may have been deterred by the stigmatising language in the act to apply for the additional childcare subsidy, which would support their child to get greater access to early childhood education and care. It's designed for vulnerable children. Research conducted by the Department of Education highlighted issues with the additional childcare subsidy child wellbeing language, particularly for people from First Nations backgrounds and domestic violence victims. The language in the act literally says you have to say that your child is at serious risk of abuse or neglect. Changing that to the phrase 'a child in need of wellbeing support 'is far less stigmatising language. If something like that can provide better access to families, especially to those children, to get into early childhood education and have the benefits of quality early childhood education—it might sound small to many people, but that is one of the really significant things in this very large bill. It's something that was also highlighted by the Productivity Commission's 2023 review into early childhood education and care.</para>
<para>There are many, many more, but time prevents me from going into the detail. There'll be a whole lot of people who really love the one amending the Marriage Act so that there can be further uptake of digital ID services for people getting married rather than all the paper stuff. There are a whole lot of things that drag these bills into the 21st century, that recognise we have incredible capacity digitally and that will increase productivity, using our data and digital technologies to improve access to government services. I think it is worth remembering that the context of all of this is allowing government, individuals and small businesses to be more efficient and productive—doing more in the same amount of time—so I commend this bill to the House, the first of a series of reforms that will improve productivity across government and the economy.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:24</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms SPENDER</name>
    <name.id>286042</name.id>
    <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise in support of the Regulatory Reform Omnibus Bill 2025 and would like to inform the House that I'll also be moving an amendment to it. I'm supportive of this bill because it contains a number of practical and positive changes, including the implementation of the tell-us-once principle for businesses, which is a long overdue step that will increase efficiency and reduce duplication.</para>
<para>Good regulation is absolutely critical. When it is done well, it improves the lives of both citizens and businesses by making systems more navigable, reducing red tape and allowing more time and resources to be spent on creating value. Reforms like this matter. But I want to be clear: this bill as it currently stands is extremely modest, and the scale of the challenge we as an economy face is extremely large. If the government is truly going to make a difference to productivity through legislative and regulatory reform, it has a very, very long way to go and it needs to up its ambition.</para>
<para>I will talk about three areas where I believe the government needs to address regulation and needs to step up its ambition. The government needs to prioritise the areas which can make the biggest difference to the economy, needs to update its speed in addressing these issues—including by utilising AI—and needs to change incentives fundamentally. It also needs to change the mindset where government is effectively a monopoly provider of services to the economy and acts like that, and abuses its monopoly powers like many other organisations across the economy. It is time the government acted like a service provider to citizens as customers rather than as a monopoly provider, with all the abuses that come from there. I'll use a particular example that goes to an amendment I am moving to this bill, to show how ridiculous—I can't think of a better word—government sometimes behaves in its bureaucratic activities as opposed to trying to address the issues our citizens face and doing that as easily as possible.</para>
<para>Let me start with ambition on regulatory reform. I was extremely heartened when the Treasurer stood up and spoke about the book <inline font-style="italic">A</inline><inline font-style="italic">bundance</inline>. The message was clear—that is, supply-side reform is required to deliver things the community wants, including cheaper energy and housing that is affordable and accessible. These are the things the entire community wants. It doesn't matter what side of politics you are from; we all want families and young people to be able to access housing. I want all Australians to be able to access energy as cheaply as possible while doing the right thing in terms of emissions reduction. It was right for the Treasurer to acknowledge that supply-side reform is critical to this. I think it's positive that we see a government on the progressive side of parliament talking about red tape reduction, because this is normally the area that is left to the conservative side of parliament.</para>
<para>The question now is whether the government is going to act enough on the issues it identified. Let me talk about those three areas where I think it needs to work hard. Firstly, it needs to prioritise areas of the economy that need reform most urgently from a regulatory reform point of view. These include the EPBC Act, housing and industrial relations. I give the government credit that they are trying to address the EPBC Act and regulatory reform there, and they have made modest steps in relation to housing. However, I want to call out that, from a housing point of view, there are further ways they need to go, including incentivising the states effectively to make the regulatory reforms required. The way they are currently incentivising the states is not working because all the states are not going to meet the current incentive structure the government is planning to use. The government has to rethink how it is going to incentivise the states to reduce regulatory burden.</para>
<para>The other area the government should be addressing, honestly, is industrial relations. This is a real blind spot for the government, I believe. In this country we have always had a pendulum approach to industrial relations reform, where one of the major parties comes in and brings in lots of red tape and then the other major party comes in and changes a lot. It's incredibly unproductive and very damaging for businesses and consumers. At the moment we're having a pendulum-swinging approach to legislation rather than sitting down, getting the Productivity Commission to look at our industrial relations settings and saying, 'Okay, what is the impact on productivity in our industrial relations settings, what is the impact on growth and what are the trade-offs we're willing to make?' We will always make trade-offs to protect workers—that is important—but at the moment we can't even have a civilised examination of the evidence to see where we could make a difference and what the trade-offs that we're implicitly making are in an ideological way as opposed to a fact based way.</para>
<para>I want to call out the government's reluctance over the last four years, or coming up to four years, to actually look at award simplification. This is an area where the government could legitimately show to businesses that they're serious about trying to make things better for business as well as for workers. When I talked to my niece and she asked me, 'Am I being paid correctly?' it took me hours to try and work out whether she was being paid correctly, because of the complexity of the awards. That complexity serves nobody except lawyers, and it stops us moving forward as a country. This is an area where the government could take action in a way that continues to protect workers, but it hasn't to date.</para>
<para>If the government is serious about regulatory reform, firstly it needs to get more serious about housing reform, and it needs to look at industrial relations as well. Secondly, it needs to up its ambition on speed. It has been six months since the election; it has been probably five months since the Treasurer spoke on these issues. There have been, as I understand, around 400 areas of regulatory reform identified by the regulators as potential areas of reform, but we need the government to be showing what the plan is to address these areas and how quickly they're going to deal with this, because this is hard.</para>
<para>This really comes to the third point I want to make. I believe we need to change the incentive structure around regulatory reform. There was a lot of discussion at the economic reform roundtable about the idea of balancing risk and growth, and this is quite a fundamental question that we are trying to face as a country, because regulation is there for very good reason. It manages risk. But regulation in various forms can also have a very big impact on growth. We need to acknowledge that difference, and we need to consider how those two interact. But, as regulators, the incentives are all about risk, so it is up to the parliament and the government to indicate that growth and opportunity are also needed in terms of how we think about our regulatory settings. This is where we need some explicit guidance to regulators to do this, and I believe we need some incentives to achieve that as well. To achieve those incentives, what we need to do is to have some hard measures and targets around this. I asked the Treasurer last week about whether he would put in targets, potentially around regulatory reform. He said he's talking to the Productivity Commission about this, and I think that is an appropriate step, but what I want to know is when he is going to come back to the House and report on those measures.</para>
<para>Regulatory reform and red-tape reduction are really hard, because all the incentives across the economy, particularly in this House, are: 'If there's a problem, let's regulate, because it's no cost to anyone.' I often hear this: 'If you just put in a regulation, it doesn't cost the budget anything.' In many cases, it doesn't cost the budget anything, but it costs businesses something, and that is the problem. That is why we do need to change the incentives around regulation. We need to change the guidance to the regulators, but we also need to create some hard targets for the government to be held accountable to, and I support the real push of the BCA and other business groups around this.</para>
<para>The second point I want to make on this is one that was made by the previous speaker, which is that government is a service provider, but it is a monopoly service provider. Across the economy, we are suspicious, as a country, of monopoly service providers because we know that, if you let a monopoly run a service, you often get poor service, and that is what we get too often from government. I have had so many conversations with members of my community who have gone to Services Australia for a particular issue and have literally spent hours on the phone and then have been cut off and couldn't get back on the calls.</para>
<para>All of these issues relate to how government interacts with individuals. The truth is that government is not accountable for this, because how do you hold government to account on this if you're just a citizen? That is what we have to do. I believe that we, as a parliament, need to reorient ourselves towards what the things are that make a difference in people's lives, what their touchpoints with government are and how to make it as easy as possible to deal with government. How can we do that?</para>
<para>That comes to my amendment, because it is about a terrible case of government working completely against the interests of the country and of individuals. I have a constituent, Major Caitlin Pedel. She is a member of our armed forces. She was posted overseas while she was pregnant. Because she was posted overseas rather than deployed—because pregnant women cannot be deployed—she was refused paid parental leave, which is open to all Australians, because she was going to be overseas for more than the requisite amount of time. She was serving the Australian people overseas, but, because of the technicality that she was posted overseas, she was not eligible for paid parental leave.</para>
<para>The services are a really important part of my electorate. I have three enormous bases in my electorate: <inline font-style="italic">Watson</inline>, <inline font-style="italic">Kuttabul</inline> and the Victoria Barracks. I deeply respect the contribution that the defence services make to our community, and they are really important parts of our community. But the feedback I get constantly from the defence services is that we don't pay enough attention to families when we look at defence.</para>
<para>So let's see what Caitlin's experience was. She appealed this decision, and she won, which was great. You'd say: 'Okay, this is great. This is positive. She gets her paid parental leave.' Services Australia, in its infinite wisdom, decided to take her to the Federal Court to overturn this. She won the first time, but then Services Australia got her on appeal, and they won. So Caitlin Pedel has been rejected from having $14,000-odd worth of paid parental leave paid to her as a member of our Australian Defence Force. Services Australia has spent tens of thousands of dollars fighting a member of our Defence Force to stop her getting paid parental leave.</para>
<para>Let's be honest: paid parental leave is open to all Australians—any Australian, actually, who fits the criteria. She fits the criteria. The only reason she didn't was that she was deployed overseas for Australia. Because she was out of the country for a certain number of weeks, she was no longer eligible for this, and Services Australia took a completely bureaucratic, narrow interpretation of the law and took her to court. I just sit there and go, 'What a waste of money and what a perfect example of government fighting against what it actually believes.' I can't think of a single person in this House who would argue that a member of our Defence Force, when posted overseas, shouldn't be eligible for paid parental leave, but this is how the law is currently drafted, and Services Australia pursued this rather than accepting the natural justice of it.</para>
<para>I have been trying to get the government to change this law for over a year, and they still haven't made any changes. I still have not had from the government any amendment that would make a change for the future. So I am putting forward an amendment to this piece of legislation that will, as I understand it based on the drafters, ensure that this situation won't happen for other people in the future.</para>
<para>I spoke to Caitlin this morning, and I have to say I have full admiration for her. She said: 'Look, it's not about me. I just want this not to happen for other people. I know that there are other people out there who are also being denied paid parental leave because they have been posted overseas.' She's just trying to fix this wrong, and I am just asking the government to do something about this. I have been asking them to do this for the last year. I've been asking very politely. I think that this is an example of where the government needs to act, and it should be acting today. So I ask the government to support this amendment or to come up with a better answer and a timeframe under which it is going to be delivered.</para>
<para>In closing, the point that I'm trying to make here is that government is a monopoly. It is an imperfect monopoly, and it abuses its power. I think we need strong incentives to make sure that government acts in the interests of the country and its citizens. When it sees bureaucratic knots being tied amongst its citizens, it should act. If it's not willing to act on these little issues, where there's a clear path, I have little confidence that it is going to act on the big issues that are more difficult to fix.</para>
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<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:39</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr NG</name>
    <name.id>316052</name.id>
    <electorate>Menzies</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to speak on the Regulatory Reform Omnibus Bill 2025. I stood for election and became involved in politics because I believe government can be an enormous force for good. Good government encourages the flourishing of society, community and the individual. It is focused on serving members of the community and on being accessible and accountable. Good governments make good regulations, achieving the big picture by paying attention to the details to disincentivise negative behaviour and incentivise good outcomes. That is what this bill is about at its core: making sure that governments are working for individuals and working for business.</para>
<para>My purpose has always been to make sure that people can rely on the systems that have been built to serve them, because trust in government is built through access, accountability and fairness. I was recently at a Halloween celebration at Jackson Court in my electorate, in Doncaster, and somebody came with a pretty clever costume: they had a couple of pieces of cardboard; the front said 'myGov' and the back said, 'You have a message from myGov,' because that was supposed to be a scary costume! We don't want people to have that experience of government. We want government to be a helping hand, not a bureaucratic labyrinth to navigate. In an age when there's declining trust in government, this is more important than ever.</para>
<para>As a former public servant, I know how important it is that Australians can depend on services that are reliable, fair and trusted. People regularly contact my office—just as, I know, they contact the offices of the other members here—asking for assistance to access government services. It's a role that I'm happy to play, and it's an honour to be able to serve my constituents. But government services shouldn't be so hard to navigate or understand that people need an interpreter in order to be able to access them. Every interaction with government should leave people feeling supported, not frustrated. It should be designed with empathy and efficiency to make life easier.</para>
<para>This bill builds on the work that the government began following the economic reform round table, which focused on streamlining services, getting investment flowing and boosting productivity. The bill delivers better regulation, less red tape and higher productivity, while keeping the focus on people. I thank the member for Wentworth for her contribution talking about reduced regulation, and the member for Wentworth would be happy to hear that this bill contains 60 measures across 28 acts, it repeals two acts entirely and it affects 13 agencies. These are reforms that cover a broad range of areas, from health care to citizenship, from digital identity to child care and social security, all to make things easier.</para>
<para>This bill simplifies information-sharing across government, taking an important step towards the implementation of a tell-us-once approach across government. For too long, Australians have had to repeat their details across Centrelink, Medicare, child support and paid parental leave, and this reform ends that duplication. It saves time for the public, like the members in the gallery, and for staff. It means less time and stress standing in line or being on the phone or entering details into government forms. So, for example, when someone updates their bank details with Centrelink, that information will be automatically shared with Medicare.</para>
<para>This will have tangible flow-on effects beyond just efficiency and saved time. Around 980,000 Australians—so almost a million Australians—are owed $270 million in unpaid Medicare benefits; many may not even be aware that they are owed these entitlements. Thanks to these changes, someone owed, say, unpaid Medicare benefits can have those funds deposited into the same verified bank account used for family tax benefit payments. A person escaping family violence will have to update their relationship status, address or bank details only once and authorise these changes to apply securely across programs. It reduces the burden on people during some of the most difficult times in their lives, and it reduces the risk of them having to recount difficult details repeatedly. When a person moves from one payment type to another, verified information can now be reused, instead of requiring a new claim. This means faster processing and less frustration. Older Australians who lose their Commonwealth seniors health card due to temporary overseas travel will have it automatically reinstated upon return, if they're still eligible, sparing them unnecessary paperwork.</para>
<para>Each of these reforms—while, admittedly, pretty technical—builds a government that listens, adapts and respects people's time. Each reduces barriers, simplifies access and restores confidence that government services can be fast, fair and reliable.</para>
<para>I recently visited the Services Australia office in Box Hill with Assistant Minister for the Public Service Patrick Gorman. There I saw dedicated public servants focused on supporting people who came to them for assistance. I saw client-centred innovations, such as recruiting staff with language skills like Mandarin, or Farsi, that were appropriate to the community. I saw the co-location of services such as NDIS. I'm pleased to see the government is matching the dedication of our frontline staff with reforms which will make their lives—and, more importantly, their clients' lives—easier.</para>
<para>We're also amending the Australian Citizenship Act 2007 and the Electronic Transactions Act 1999. Australians currently rely on paper certificates that can be lost or misplaced. This amendment is for anyone who has dived into a desk drawer or ruffled around in a filing cabinet to dig out a birth certificate or a citizenship certificate. We know, too, that these documents, particularly the older ones, do not have the security features that we would expect in modern life. My birth certificate looks like it could have been typed up on any computer, with a font that looks like a typewriter's. This will clear the way for secure digital proof of citizenship. It will make it easier to confirm identity when applying for jobs, passports or government services. It will reduce costs, strengthen privacy protections and increase reliability. Home Affairs will be able to build a secure system that issues digital certificates while safeguarding personal data and preventing fraud. Our government is about making modern reforms to keep up with technology and risk.</para>
<para>We are a government that will always invest in health care. It is always looking for ways to make our system better. This bill modernises healthcare information systems. The Healthcare Identifiers Act 2010 will be updated so healthcare providers automatically appear in the national <inline font-style="italic">H</inline><inline font-style="italic">ealthcare </inline><inline font-style="italic">P</inline><inline font-style="italic">rovider </inline><inline font-style="italic">D</inline><inline font-style="italic">irectory</inline> unless they choose not to. This opt-out model ensures a complete and accurate directory, making it easier for doctors, pharmacists and allied health professionals to connect, coordinate care and use secure digital tools such as electronic prescribing and referrals. The secretary of the Department of Health, Disability and Ageing will be given new authority to set national data standards after consulting with state and territory governments. Health information across Australia is currently fragmented and inconsistent. National standards will enable secure, accurate data-sharing so healthcare professionals can access what they need when they need it. This will lead to faster diagnosis, safer treatment and better health outcomes.</para>
<para>The bill also doubles the timeframe for diagnostic imaging referrals from seven to 14 days. This is an important reform that will reduce the burden on GPs and their patients. We know people have busy lives and it can be difficult to make time to see a doctor—let alone if you need to have multiple scans or appointments. This strikes the balance between ensuring people attend vital diagnostic scans and making sure that there is not too much burden on them. It gives people a bit more breathing room. People won't have to return to their GP for a new referral if a week passes, and, in that way, it will reduce costs, save time and keep the focus on care rather than on paperwork.</para>
<para>It also addresses non-operational pathology collection centres. If a centre is closed, inaccessible or no longer collecting specimens, the minister will have the power to revoke its approval. Pathology centres play an important role in health care for diagnosis, treatment and management of medical conditions. This ensures that new functioning centres can open and patients can access services when and where they are needed.</para>
<para>The legislation authorises secure information-sharing between the department of health, Services Australia and other integrity bodies, implementing the recommendations of the Philip review. This will strengthen Medicare's integrity, allow earlier detection of fraud, protect public funds and maintain confidence in a system that millions of Australians rely on every day.</para>
<para>This legislation improves access to health and child care by making the rules simpler and more practical, but also kinder. The Additional Child Care Subsidy now replaces the phrase 'child at risk of abuse or neglect' with 'child in need of wellbeing support'. This small change removes stigma and encourages families to seek help. It keeps the same eligibility rules but uses strength based language that supports dignity and supports trust.</para>
<para>The reforms confirm that healthcare identifiers can be used in insurance or employment settings only to support ongoing treatment not to make adverse decisions about a person's care or work. This protects patients from discrimination, while ensuring their care is continuous and properly recorded in the My Health Record system, ensuring better sharing of health information.</para>
<para>These are just some of the reforms under this bill. The bill will help increase government efficiency and improve productivity in a range of ways. Taken together, these reforms represent a government that values inefficiency, integrity and fairness. They are about more than a process; they are about putting people at the centre of what we do. They mean a single mother can update her details once instead of five times, they mean a pensioner can get their healthcare card re-issued without having to fill out another form and they mean a doctor can access accurate patient information without delay. This shows that good government is not just about cutting services; it's about improving them. Those opposite often argue that cutting departments, cutting government services, will make them work better. We reject that. You do not improve the Public Service by hollowing it out. You improve it by designing systems that work for the people that use them.</para>
<para>This bill is proof that smart reform can deliver better outcomes without cuts. It demonstrates that regulation, when done properly, can empower rather than constrain. It can make government more human and more efficient at the same time. At its heart this bill is about trust. Australians should be able to trust that, when they deal with their government, they will be treated fairly, their time will be respected and their information will be secure. They should be able to trust that their government will help them, not hinder them.</para>
<para>We are building a government that talks to the Australian people and that listens to the Australian people so that Australians do not have to tell their story twice and that information is shared across services. We are building a government that connect programs and systems so people can move through life's stages without getting lost in bureaucracy and a government that understands that every form filled out, every call made and every appointment delayed is time taken away from what really matters: spending time with friends, working, playing sport, getting involved in the community and spending time with family. These are the sorts of things that we want Australians to be able to focus on, not having to spend time filling out forms and navigating government bureaucracy. This is what a Labor government does. We make a government that works for people.</para>
<para>Those opposite will talk about deregulation as if it were an end in itself. We understand that regulation is about fairness and function. It must protect the vulnerable, it must safeguard public funds, it must safeguard people's privacy, it must safeguard people's identity and medical records and it must enable innovation. This bill does that. It supports faster services, stronger integrity and a fairer economy. It does that by making sure that information is shared across government services, across health services, and that people's digital records—whether in health or if their bank account details are needed for government services—can flow freely between departments, reducing the amount of time that people need to spend online, filling out forms or filling out paper forms or standing in line at Services Australia offices or waiting on the phone to Centrelink. This is why I commend this bill to the House.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:54</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr HUSIC</name>
    <name.id>91219</name.id>
    <electorate>Chifley</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>If you've been in place long enough, what's old is new again. It should not be particularly surprising that from time to time governments of both political colours will determine that there is a point at which we are going to attack red tape. I remember my friend the former member for Kooyong being very energetic, doing his red tape 'bonfire of the vanities' routine in times past. Only Josh Frydenberg could get a lot of media coverage pushing for red tape reduction. He did a very good job on it. We swore that we would cut it back. I liken this process to weeding—you do one cut and then you have to come back again, months or years later, to attend to the growth of red tape. For bringing this on, I hold to account Ezra Klein, the US writer who has written the book <inline font-style="italic">A</inline><inline font-style="italic">bundance</inline>, which I have in my Audible list of books to listen to on my drive to Canberra. I haven't quite got to it yet, but apparently he's made some sort of impact. Now it's the thing for us to reimagine red tape reduction, and that's what we're doing. But it is about getting the balance right on red tape reduction, because one person's cut to red tape is another person's cut to protections and to systems that have been put in place in response to issues that the public have raised.</para>
<para>Do I think it's a bad thing for governments to cut red tape? Of course not. I think it's important that we always find efficiencies in the way that we do things, efficiencies that will improve the way we use the resources required to get things done and the speed at which we provide services to the general public. I think it's always important that the public sector in particular rethink its approach to getting things done, and it doesn't matter which side of politics is in government. If I may put it in rather stark terms, in many respects the Public Service sees the political parties as renters: at a certain point in time they occupy a bit of real estate, but the systems will always go on and will always stay the same. It is incumbent on whichever political party forms government to look at whether or not those systems are fit for purpose, and clearly one aspect of that is looking at red tape. Off the back of people reading <inline font-style="italic">Abundance</inline> we've had this surge in focus, which is great, but let's see what it actually yields.</para>
<para>'Tell us once' is great. Governments of both sides have been pursuing this for a decade. We have had hand-on-heart commitments by the other side of politics, when in government, that they would get this right, supported by a public service that said in all honesty that said they would get this done. Here we are 10 years later, again committing to do this. Do I think this is wrong? No. I think it's very good. I think it's important that the general public are not left on hold for an extended period of time, waiting for service, when contacting Services Australia. I think it's a good thing, as the population gets more digitally savvy and can work with these systems, that they need only provide information once—that a system captures and records information once, not multiple time, when a member of the public wants to engage with and get action from a federal government department.</para>
<para>This isn't a challenge just for government, by the way. Red tape also exists in major corporations, where people are forced time and again to provide information to organisations in order to obtain a service that they desire. The notion that government is awash with red tape and the trope that it is an inefficiency of federal government—I don't think people need to believe that. Big organisations develop a multilayered approach to getting things done. It's not guaranteed that the private sector always does it better than the public sector. It is a challenge, but if we get 'tell us once' right it does make a difference to the general population.</para>
<para>What is also important is that systems for recording data are modernised. Again, regardless of what side of politics is in power, there is the challenge of the amount of money we dedicate to the turnover of antiquated IT systems. It costs a lot of money to get that done, and sometimes governments decide they won't do that, or they'll defer it—yet again. Again, we've seen both sides of politics doing this. Some of those bodies exist within the remit of Services Australia or like bodies, where the money hasn't been put in place. So, you can cut the red tape as much as you want, but if the system, particularly a legacy system, takes time to accurately and efficiently record that, it is going to be a challenge. Again, I make the point that what is said in theory—cutting red tape, the idea that we'll make it easier for the general public—is all very good, and we all support it. But we also need to make sure we make the investments in the systems to make that happen. That is critically important as well.</para>
<para>The other elements of this bill that are noteworthy relate to some of the changes that have made in schedule 4, part 6, around improving energy performance and that there'll be measures to introduce demand flexibility as a new object of the act. Demand flexibility would be enabled, and consultation would occur. This aligns with the National Energy Performance Strategy and reflects our commitment to the evolving regulatory framework with the emerging energy needs and technologies.</para>
<para>The reason I'm supportive of this is that right now, just as the latest trend is to read Ezra Klein's text on abundance, the other big idea is that we'll improve our technological capabilities by allowing many data centre flowers to bloom in this country. A lot of US tech players are very keen to set up a raft of data centres across this country. The promise is that if we get these data centres built it will be a good thing for our capability in areas such as artificial intelligence and what that might unleash for the nation. That's all great in theory, but it's a basic theory. It doesn't necessarily guarantee that.</para>
<para>If we are going to cut red tape and we are going to bring these data centres online a lot quicker, we also need to know that they use a heck of a lot of energy, particularly if they are platforms supporting the operation of generative AI, and that we will need to stagger the way these centres are built. Right now we are going through an energy transition. Right now it is terrific to see that renewable energy is, more and more, forming the energy generation base of this nation. But a lot of these data centres tend to soak up a lot of energy use, which has become a hot topic in the US, where a lot of these centres are getting built. The concern is that there's a lot of investment in this for the benefit that comes out and the amount of energy that gets chewed up as a result.</para>
<para>Louisa Kinnear, from the Australian Energy Council, makes that same point. She says:</para>
<quote><para class="block">In the US, data centres are a major source of demand growth resulting in shortfalls of energy capacity. The US consequently faces a dilemma -in a time where it can take many years to develop and build new energy assets, how can it service this rapid uptick of energy demand while keeping energy prices affordable?</para></quote>
<para>She goes on to say:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Australia too is grappling with the extent to which data centres might drive future demand, although we are not seeing the levels of demand growth being experienced by our American friends.</para></quote>
<para>Not yet. A number of major US tech firms that are experiencing the types of problems Ms Kinnear has identified have sought other jurisdictions in which to set these data centres up. For instance, Amazon and Google are looking to set up new data centres. Obviously other generative players would be looking to do the same. So, this is something we need to keep tabs on. If we are boosting renewable energy supply and we are seeing that new supply getting taken up by new centres, that's an issue. It is also a challenge in that we have a target of building 1.2 million new homes by 2030. We also have a raft of state governments that are undertaking infrastructure investment and rolling out that investment in different parts of the country. So there's a demand on skills availability between the housing sector and infrastructure.</para>
<para>The building of these new centres is not a small thing. It does require skilled people to be able to undertake that construction work. So it's not just a call on energy; it's a call on skills as well, particularly if that occurs in regional areas, where the ability to call on those skills may not necessarily be available. So I do think, as much as we obviously value the role of data centres supporting local business—and I think there is a case to be made that a lot of these firms could do more to demonstrate the residual benefit to Australian industry of that processing power through their centres—and there is a benefit there, we should also be 'eyes wide open' on the challenges. Letting it rip in terms of data-centre development in this country sounds great on paper. It doesn't necessarily guarantee a smooth energy transition. You've got to ask the question about what it does in terms of skills.</para>
<para>Because data centres use a lot of water as well, you've got to make sure that that resource is available, bearing in mind that it should not be assumed that, just because water systems are available in cities, that is an equal and standard case in our regions. Water supply is obviously, in different parts of the country, just as big a concern. So the fact that there is a demand flexibility incorporated in this omnibus bill is very important, and, if it is a measure that can provide for a sharper, clear-eyed assessment about the way in which we roll out the construction of these new data centres, I think it will be a valuable thing. I say this as someone who very much values the role of technology and, in particular, its uptake by Australian business. But getting it right and getting the balance sorted out is very important. Having measures like this in the bill, if they allow for a much more measured and balanced approach to the rollout of these things, so they don't become an issue like in other countries and so we don't import that issue into our own country, is very important.</para>
<para>I'll leave my remarks at that. I think the bill is an important way in which to send a signal about being able to reduce the number or the range of regulations that are put in place. I suspect, in time, we'll probably also have a fresh look at 'one in, one out' rules when it comes to red tape—that is, if you are bringing in a new set of measures, where are you reducing measures elsewhere so that that is a constant way in which you improve on the growth or counter the growth of red tape? That is something that has been embraced in times passed. In the UK, the Blair government championed this. We did have some of that here in this jurisdiction, particularly at the federal level. Whether or not we reinvigorate that approach is another question altogether and probably a question for another time. But it is worth considering. So I certainly commend the bill to the House, and I am grateful for the chance to make a contribution on it.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:08</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms JORDAN-BAIRD</name>
    <name.id>316021</name.id>
    <electorate>Gorton</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to speak in support of the Regulatory Reform Omnibus Bill 2025, brought forward by the Treasurer, and I commend him for doing so. It's great to follow the words of my friend the member for Chifley as well. The Albanese government was re-elected earlier this year on a promise, a promise that we would keep fighting to make government work for Australians, not the other way around. This bill is another important step towards delivering on that promise. In August, the Treasurer chaired the Albanese government's Economic Reform Roundtable, with three days around the cabinet table with representatives and experts from the union movement, businesses and the community sector. This followed more than 40 mini roundtables led by ministers across a range of portfolios. After all these conversations, there was a clear point of agreement. What we heard, time and time again, was that our economy needs better regulation, our government services need streamlining and compliance costs need to go down. This bill is a result of a massive body of work, but the positive change it will create across the country will be so much greater.</para>
<para>In our first term the Albanese government fought inflation and reformed the budget, and in our second term we are focused on making our economy more dynamic, resilient and productive. We've worked together with the Australian people to deliver two surpluses after nine years of deficits. We've got real wages growing again after a decade of deliberate wage suppression and wage stagnation. Living standards are recovering after falling sharply under those opposite. On this side of the House, we take responsibility to work through the challenges that have arisen in our economy, whether those challenges are inflation, business investment or strengthening budget sustainability, and that is exactly what we're doing here today.</para>
<para>The bill before us now would make government work better for Australians in a few different ways. Firstly, the bill supports Services Australia moving towards a 'tell us once' approach for how it delivers services. This will reduce the number of times Australians have to provide the same information to government agencies such as Centrelink to access basic services. Centrelink does incredibly important work for Australians. That's evident every day in my electorate of Gorton, from the young families getting that little bit extra they need from the family tax benefit to workers affected by redundancy who are supported by JobSeeker to find work again, to older Australians accessing all-important health care with their seniors healthcare card.</para>
<para>My electorate is home to some of the most dedicated, responsive and genuinely caring Services Australia staff I've ever come across. The team at our local service centre—the Watergardens Service Centre—are there every day supporting our constituents, and we couldn't be more appreciative of the work they do. I had the pleasure of visiting the Watergardens Service Centre and meeting the staff in person recently. While I was there I heard about all they do to make the system work for the people they support, from having an ATO officer in-house to bridge the gap between Services Australia and the ATO, to arranging in-person language support for members of our CALD community in the Western Suburbs.</para>
<para>But there are serious limitations as well. Constituents who contact my electorate office are often fatigued by interacting with multiple agencies and communicating the same information again and again. Oftentimes it's stressful situations and unexpected life events that create a need people for to communicate new information to government services—financial hardship, housing challenges, family breakdowns. Not long ago, a constituent living in Truganina brought in a document detailing the more than 20 interactions with Centrelink and other government services she'd had while trying to get the support she needed after her redundancy. This shouldn't be happening. In times like these, having to communicate new information multiple times to multiple different agencies compounds the stress that constituents are already feeling, creating frustration and disillusionment. This frustration puts more pressure back onto our government agencies like the team at the Watergardens Service Centre, and makes their work of trying to support constituents and get them the assistance they need all the more challenging. That's why this legislation is so important; it lightens the load on everyone, from staff in our service centres and government departments to everyday Australians navigating these agencies and systems.</para>
<para>This bill amends several acts to expand the situations where information can be shared between government agencies. Ultimately, these reforms will mean that someone applying to receive their Medicare rebates and Centrelink payments won't have to hand over the same personal details repeatedly. They will need to advise Services Australia once—just once—and it will be sorted, improving the experience of government services and agencies for all Australians and lightening the load on everyone. Further to this point, the bill before us will make our medical system work better for Australians.</para>
<para>On this side of the House we've put access to medical care at the top of our agenda. We've given Medicare the biggest boost since it was created, and opened more than 90 urgent care clinics, including two accessible to my constituents in Gorton. Getting in and seeing a doctor is one part of the picture, but sometimes medical care needs to go beyond that. We're making primary medical care more accessible for constituents, but the steps after that first doctor's appointment need to work for Australians as well. We've heard Australians when they told us that under the existing legislation there sometimes just isn't the time to get scans and imaging done—work gets busy, family needs you, life gets in the way. We get that making time for that appointment isn't always that easy. That's why we're doubling the amount of time that patients have access to imaging services when they get a referral. This means families will have additional time to make appointments for scans or medical imaging before they expire, and, when there just isn't time to get that scan or imaging done, they won't have to start the whole process all over again. This makes the system work for Australians and helps to reduce the demand on GPs so everyone can get into a doctor when they need to.</para>
<para>Third, this bill will further reduce the regulatory burden on Australians and on industry by working to make processes simple, intuitive and up to date, as they should be. One type of regulation that will become much easier to navigate under this bill is legislated document requirements. Right now, Australians still need to submit hard-copy documents to prove details about themselves or their identity in a number of different situations—for example, when they get married, as I did last year. That means getting out your passport and texting Mum frantically to ask what happened to the hard copy of your birth certificate. We know that this system is out of date, and we need to keep up with a world that's gone digital. That's why this bill would modernise some of the processes to allow secure digital options to be used where they're suitable.</para>
<para>With this bill, we'll also continue to increase productivity and government efficiency from several different angles. This bill will make sure NBN mapping is publicly available online so that Australians will have better information about their NBN rollout and can have greater visibility of when the NBN will be coming to their community. It will grant fuel companies greater flexibility to respond to fuel supply disruptions, which will allow greater knowledge for communities when they're filling up at the petrol station. It will increase information sharing between healthcare providers, to make sure that Australians receive the highest-quality care. This means that, if you see one doctor in Deer Park and then change to see a different doctor in Caroline Springs, your health data will be shared between clinics, meaning your GP will have better historic healthcare data when you're in the assessment room, providing a more accurate diagnosis and overall better health care. It will improve the regulation of Medicare to clamp down on fraudulent claims so fewer people will be taking advantage of our system through deceptive conduct.</para>
<para>It's a multitude of measures which will benefit a multitude of government processes. It's an all-encompassing bill including 60 measures. It amends 28 acts and repeals two redundant acts. Through all of this, it will deliver real improvement to the operations of 13 federal government agencies. These are all commonsense changes that will make a genuine difference in people's lives, including the lives of people in my community in Melbourne's western suburbs. The changes streamline government processes so people spend less time filling out superfluous paperwork and spend more quality time with their families instead.</para>
<para>While the opposition has been divided and distracted since the opening of the 48th Parliament, we have been getting on with the job, and we know how important our job is. For almost a decade, the now opposition ran a government that was incapable of delivering the services that Australians expected and deserved. Across Centrelink, Medicare and the NDIS, the previous government's time in office was defined by delays and inefficiencies. Across Centrelink, Medicare and the NDIS, for nine long years, backlogs grew and Australians suffered. People in Melbourne's western suburbs suffered.</para>
<para>Government agencies weren't just failing Australians; they were actively harming them too. The appalling robodebt scandal should not be forgotten. It will never be forgotten, and it should never be repeated. Robodebt was designed to raise revenue by clawing back debt from people who never owed that money, preying on some of our most vulnerable Australians. The impacts of this tragic coalition government failure are still being felt in communities across Australia, including my community in the western suburbs.</para>
<para>When the Albanese government came into office in 2022, we took on the job of rebuilding the capability and capacity of our government agencies following nine long years of cuts and neglect. We added 3,000 staff to Services Australia. This reduced backlogs and improved service access for people across Australia, including in my community. We also directed Services Australia to release quarterly performance data to increase transparency. Where the coalition neglected, we built. We established the Royal Commission into the Robodebt Scheme to rebuild public trust and make sure that what happened is never allowed to happen again; we rebuilt the Australian Public Service, which had been hollowed out by an overreliance on consultants and contractors; and we're reforming the NDIS, a scheme that the coalition didn't want to see succeed and made cuts to every step of the way. We made integrity and delivery the central priorities of government agencies, and the Australians who rely on these services are now better off under Labor's reforms. But we didn't just reform the way these agencies deliver support; we also increased the level of support they provide.</para>
<para>Last week, I attended a citizenship ceremony in the city of Melton, where we welcomed 400 constituents from my home in Melbourne's west into our broader Australian community as new Australian citizens. At the ceremony, I read out a statement on behalf of the Minister for Home Affairs, Tony Burke. In this statement, the minister reminded our community that, when you make a citizenship pledge, you take on the privilege that it is to be an Australian citizen. I want to echo that sentiment right now because it is truly a privilege to live a life in Australia. The privilege is in the safety nets we have access to when life doesn't go according to plan: access to health services like Medicare and the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme; access to cheaper child care and the parenting payment for families juggling it all; access to the indexation of pensions to inflation to make things fair; access to the carers payment, because caring for loved ones takes a toll; and access to the JobSeeker payment to keep Australians afloat during life's most unpredictable periods.</para>
<para>While I repeated the minister's words to our new Australians—that, as citizens, we take on these immense privileges—I knew it was us, the government representing our communities, who take on a responsibility in return, because it is our government agencies who are responsible for delivering the social safety net that we as Australians hold so dear. Let me be clear. These safety nets are the product of the Australian Labor Party. It's no secret that the coalition has opposed the creation of social safety nets at every turn. Robodebt happened under their watch. Meanwhile, Australia's healthcare system exists because of the Labor Party. Our social safety nets exist because of the Labor Party. We built Medicare from the ground up, and, today, we're delivering the biggest ever investment in Medicare in its history to bring back bulk-billing.</para>
<para>The Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, cheaper child care, the carers payment, the parenting payment, the indexation of pensions to inflation, the JobSeeker payment—these are all services that were introduced by Labor, and they exist in their current forms today because we are here to protect them. That's the difference between our side of the chamber and theirs. Labor builds social safety nets. Liberals oppose them and cut them. This bill is just one part of that. As long as there's a Labor government, Australians can trust that those valuable safety nets will be not only protected but strengthened. We as Labor know what it means to advocate for Australians, to maintain the privileges we experience as Australians for the next generation and to build a stronger, fairer Australia for all. I commend this bill to the House.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:23</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CLUTTERHAM</name>
    <name.id>316101</name.id>
    <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to speak in support of the Regulatory Reform Omnibus Bill 2025, which was borne out of the economic reform roundtable. Held in August this year, the economic reform roundtable generated consensus on ways to improve productivity, enhance economic resilience and strengthen budget sustainability by bringing together a mix of leaders from business, unions, civil society, government and other experts. It had three main themes under the umbrella of 'Lifting living standards for all Australians'. These themes were: 'Making our economy more productive', 'Building resilience in the face of global uncertainty', and 'Strengthening the budget and making it more sustainable'.</para>
<para>Australia has one of the strongest fiscal positions amongst peer economies. This includes lower general government debt to GDP than the G20 average and all major advanced economies, with smaller deficits expected in 2025 than most. Australia is also one of only nine countries to maintain a AAA sovereign credit rating from all three major ratings agencies. As recently as 27 October 2025, Australia's AAA credit rating was reaffirmed, which is an endorsement of this government's approach to responsible economic management.The government is realistic about the challenges facing our economy, including growing global uncertainty, but this reaffirmed AAA rating is further proof that our approach to the challenges we face is one of genuine economic strength.</para>
<para>We also know that there is more work to do to improve productivity. The Economic Reform Roundtable and the Productivity Commission have clearly identified that fit-for-purpose regulation is a key enabler for Australia's economic potential. This government understands that regulation that is not fit for purpose or is duplicative of processes can frustrate Australians and unnecessarily drive up the costs of doing business. It also creates backlogs, and things that could be done quickly just take too long, sometimes preventing Australians from getting the help that they need when they need it.</para>
<para>The government has committed to boosting productivity, reducing duplicative processes and improving the quality of regulation by modernising outdated rules and improving regulator performance. Regulation that is fit for purpose and effectively administrated is vital to support a safe and prosperous community. However, regulation that is excessive or obsolete can become burdensome and needlessly cause frustration or suppress economic growth without a clear benefit. Connecting government services in order to promote a more efficient and effective way of providing help to Australians is therefore critical, and the Regulatory Reform Omnibus Bill 2025 reflects the government's commitment to connecting government services so Australians can get the help that they need faster. Providing services more quickly does not mean a cut to the quality of those services. This cannot be the consequence because Australians expect and deserve high-quality, reliable services, and that is what the government wants to deliver to Australians. The government's intention, therefore, is that this bill will boost productivity and support economic resilience without reducing necessary protections.</para>
<para>The reach of this bill is extensive in that it contains 60 measures which amend 28 acts, repeal two acts and affect the operations of 13 Commonwealth agencies. The bill strikes the right balance to make regulation fit for purpose and enable growth and productivity across the Australian economy. The bill will deliver regulatory reform within four themes: firstly, amendments to support a tell-us-once approach to government service delivery; secondly, amendments to improve or maintain access to government services; thirdly, amendments to reduce regulatory burden; and, fourthly, amendments to increase government efficiency and improve productivity.</para>
<para>The first theme is found in schedule 1, and this bill is a first step towards implementation of the tell-us-once approach to government services. 'Tell us once' means just that, eliminating the need for Australians to repeatedly provide the same information to different government agencies. Privacy considerations are, of course, important in this because it's vital to protect the privacy of Australians. But, again, regulation that is not frequently measured and tested for effectiveness impacts the efficiency and quality of the services being provided.</para>
<para>This bill will provide Services Australia with a more broad set of circumstances where Services Australia, like the branch at Norwood on The Parade in my electorate of Sturt, are able to share information within the agency for the purposes of administering the Centrelink, Medicare and child support programs. This information could include name, address, bank account details, relationship status, childcare details or information about a person's circumstances or vulnerabilities. The information-sharing regime between the child support, Medicare and Centrelink programs will be simplified in such a way that it may mean the individual is no longer required to contact Services Australia multiple times to make really quite simple updates to their personal information, such as a change of address. A further example is bank details. Many Australians are customers of both Medicare and Centrelink, and, when they update their bank account details, they may notify Centrelink but not Medicare. Under current arrangements, Services Australia is unable to routinely share this information between the two programs. The proposed changes would support overcoming this limitation, allowing Services Australia to deliver better connected services and avoiding the need for the customer to contact multiple agencies.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>248181</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The debate is interrupted in accordance with standing order 43. The debate may be resumed at a later hour. The member will be granted leave to speak in continuation when the debate is resumed.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.2></subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS</title>
        <page.no>69</page.no>
        <type>STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Bureau of Meteorology: Website</title>
          <page.no>69</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:30</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr WILLCOX</name>
    <name.id>286535</name.id>
    <electorate>Dawson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to highlight a major issue, the BOM website—a source of serial frustration for regional Queenslanders. The Bureau of Meteorology's new site is failing the very people who rely on it the most: farmers, weather forecasters, transport operators and everyday Queenslanders. Constituents tell me it's confusing, clunky and hard to navigate. One farmer said, 'You may as well have a blank page.'</para>
<para>With cyclone season looming, every second counts. It's time the bureau stops clouding the facts and delivers what people really need. Accessing the radar, forecasts and warnings should be simple, quick and reliable, not a treasure hunt through a maze of menus. This is about safety, livelihoods and common sense. A modern design is worthless if it comes at the expense of function. We cannot have a bureau site that looks flashy but leaves families and farmers in the dark. It's time to put practicality before aesthetics.</para>
<para>I have formally written to the Minister for the Environment and Water urging immediate improvements. Either reinstate the previous layout or fix the current one, because Queenslanders need confidence, clarity and control when checking the weather. At the end of the day, it's not just a website; it's the difference between being prepared and being caught in a storm.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Maldon Folk Festival</title>
          <page.no>69</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:31</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CHESTERS</name>
    <name.id>249710</name.id>
    <electorate>Bendigo</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I'm pleased to stand today to congratulate the Maldon Folk Festival, which celebrated its 50th festival this weekend just been. To Pam and the amazing team of volunteers: congratulations on a fantastic festival, it being the 50th.</para>
<para>Recently the group received a $3,000 federal government volunteer grant towards putting on this year's festival. This funding went towards IT equipment as well as other needs for volunteers.</para>
<para>For those who haven't been to Maldon during the Maldon Folk Festival, it is one of those weekends when this town becomes alive. In every community space there is a group performing. This year the headline acts included the Bushwackers, Gina Jeffreys and Claymore, not to mention a little bit of folk, blues, jazz and Celtic. It's a festival that the whole family can be involved in. My children particularly love the circus element, the bush dancing opportunities and, of course, the face-painting. When you walk through the town you're greeted by street performers. It's a great opportunity for local small businesses and cafes, which are bustling, as well as the many country pubs.</para>
<para>These festivals thrive in regional Victoria, and it is the season for it. That's why I'm also proud that our government is sponsoring and supporting so many festivals through Regional Arts Victoria and through the festivals stream. Congratulations once again to all involved in the Maldon Folk Festival.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Fowler Electorate: Muay Thai</title>
          <page.no>69</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:33</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms LE</name>
    <name.id>295676</name.id>
    <electorate>Fowler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to celebrate one of Fowler's great local success stories: Cabra Muay Thai, founded by local resident Peter Chau and a few neighbours, in January 2021, just after the COVID pandemic. What began as a group of young men training in a Cabramatta backyard, to keep fit and stay connected, is now a thriving community. Today, Cabra Muay Thai has nearly 400 members and employs a team of 11, training everyone—from young people to families to professionals—from all walks of life.</para>
<para>Peter's vision was simple, yet powerful: to bring Muay Thai home. For years, he shared with me, he had to travel across Sydney and even to Thailand just to find proper training. He was determined to make this incredible sport accessible right here, in the heart of one of Australia's most culturally-diverse South-East Asian communities.</para>
<para>Muay Thai—known as the 'art of eight limbs'—is more than just a sport. It's a family-style, community-centred culture that builds strength, respect and resilience.</para>
<para>We saw this spirit recently when Cabra Muay Thai trainer and member Ik Kyu defeated Spanish contender Kevin Martinez to claim the prestigious 1774 Muay Thai competition at the William Inglis Hotel. The entire Cabra crowd was proudly behind him.</para>
<para>That community spirit is spreading across Fowler at places like White Lotus Muay Thai, where I recently had a go at a Muay Thai class, and other local gyms. More and more young women, particularly, are taking up the sport. This proves that Muay Thai in Fowler is about empowerment as much as it is about competition. Congratulations to the team at Cabra Muay Thai and their families.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Autism Community Network, St George Basketball Association</title>
          <page.no>70</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:34</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr SOON</name>
    <name.id>298618</name.id>
    <electorate>Banks</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I would like to recognise two community groups in Banks that I've seen in the last few weeks. The Autism Community Network is a fantastic organisation supporting members of our community with autism, their carers and their families. They operate five social clubs in Sydney, including two in my electorate in Riverwood and in Oatley. Just last month, I had the privilege of attending the ACN Carers Week High Tea, celebrating more than 120 carers who were in attendance and acknowledging the incredible work that they're doing to support people in our community with autism. Thank you to ACN and to its CEO, Vanessa Gauci, for all their incredible work and the great work they do in celebrating carers in our community.</para>
<para>The second group I want to acknowledge is St George Basketball, who have been playing in Sydney's southern suburbs for more than 50 years. It was great to attend their presentation dinner in September, celebrating another successful season for the team. As a lifelong basketball tragic and fan, it is great to see the sport thriving in our community. Like so many grassroot clubs, St George Basketball is run entirely by volunteers. I would like to acknowledge all of their contributions but especially those of their president, Ray Barbi, who has been a fierce advocate for basketball in the area for a long time. I look forward to supporting St George Basketball again in the future, hopefully for many years to come.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Gambling</title>
          <page.no>70</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:36</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr RYAN</name>
    <name.id>297660</name.id>
    <electorate>Kooyong</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I would like to share the words of the grade 6 students from Auburn South Primary School, who believe that gambling is a huge problem and that we need to do more about it. I agree with them. They wrote to me and said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Australia's gambling crisis is terrible. We know the government has added disclaimers at the end of gambling ads. But we think that isn't enough…</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">It might be a good idea if you make ads dedicated to educating people of all the negative effects of gambling. We think this would have a much bigger impact than just a short disclaimer.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Australians lose more money through gambling than the government spends on aged care—which is quite a hefty amount.</para></quote>
<para>That's true. They continued:</para>
<quote><para class="block">If we keep going down this path it will affect and ruin a lot of people and families. Then Australia will just be known around the world as vegemite lovers and addicted gamblers.</para></quote>
<para>I don't have any drama with being thought of as a Vegemite lover, but none of us want us to be thought of as a nation of addicted gamblers. To finish, this is what the kids said to me:</para>
<quote><para class="block">We would like you to try and push for more government funding towards educating people about the effects of gambling on themselves and their loved ones. We want a proactive effort before it's a reactive effort.</para></quote>
<para>I thank the students from Auburn South for their powerful advocacy, and let me pledge to them that I will continue working on your behalf and push the government on this really important issue.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Raise Our Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>70</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:37</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms MILLER-FROST</name>
    <name.id>296272</name.id>
    <electorate>Boothby</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Raise Our Voice in Parliament is a national competition where students from high school and primary school put in speeches for their local member to read out in parliament. Boothby had a bumper crop this year, and the one that I have chosen to speak on is from Ella, who is 10 years old, from Mitcham Primary School, which was also one of the schools that Julia Gillard attended. Ella writes:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Laws aren't just words on a page. They shape how we live every day—our rights, our responsibilities, and the opportunities we have. That's why we need to learn about civics and democracy from a young age. If schools taught us more about how Parliament works, how to vote, and how to speak up for what we believe in, we would grow into citizens who care about fairness and equality. Learning these skills now means we will be ready to lead and make good choices for Australia's future. Another step is creating more opportunities for young people to volunteer. Even though we are kids, we can already make a real difference—helping our neighbours, caring for the environment, or supporting charities. Volunteering teaches us teamwork, kindness, and responsibility. But often, we are told we are too young or not given the chance. The government should support programs that make it easier for children and teenagers to get involved, so we can start contributing today. We have a lot to contribute. By giving us stronger civics education and more chances to volunteer, the government would be building a generation ready to care, to serve, and shape a better tomorrow.</para></quote>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Goldstein Electorate: Housing</title>
          <page.no>71</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:39</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
    <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The Minister for Housing ought to be ashamed of herself for misleading the public. Bayside, Glen Eira and Kingston absolutely do their fair share. In a recent speech, she said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Over the past 30 years, Melton has grown by 433 per cent. Wyndham by 316 per cent.</para></quote>
<para>And, in an attempt to punch down on Bayside, Glen Eira and Kingston, she continued:</para>
<quote><para class="block">While inner suburban areas such as Boroondara and Bayside have grown at just 24 and 28 per cent respectively.</para></quote>
<para>Let's get to the facts. In 1996, Melton's density was 77 persons per square kilometre. Today, it is 416.5. Wyndham's density was 140.7 persons per square kilometre; now it is 621.7. Compare this to Bayside's density, which, in 1996, was 2,334.2 persons per square kilometre. Today, it is 2,851.8 persons per square kilometre. Thirty years ago, Bayside was nearly five times denser than Wyndham and Melton are today. It seems the minister's auditioning to be the Premier of Victoria, such is her appetite for misleading the public and attacking people who simply want to have places to live that promote community. Here's a different alternative: Minister, grow up. Stop being a child. You're a lousy minister. Build some houses so people have somewhere to live.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>248181</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Member for Goldstein, I think you should be cautioned about your language in this place. It is an offence to the standing order that you have just committed. The disregard for the House is astonishing.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Aluminium Industry</title>
          <page.no>71</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:41</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms SWANSON</name>
    <name.id>264170</name.id>
    <electorate>Paterson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Regrettably, last week, Tomago Aluminium made the announcement that it would go to consultation with its employees about the potential closure of the smelter. Tomago Aluminium is Australia's largest aluminium smelter, producing just under 40 per cent of what we use. It employs around 1,200 people directly, and, indirectly, there are around another 6,000 people impacted by that smelter. The smelter had to go to consultation as a legal requirement of its enterprise bargaining agreement, and I want to speak to those people that were there at a quarter to six last week hearing the news. Your government stands with you. We need to work through this problem in a very sensible, systematic way. We need the New South Wales government to work through it with us as well, and we also need the owners of that smelter to be part of these negotiations.</para>
<para>I want to specifically thank the unions, who have really engaged with employees. The AWU—the Australian Workers' Union—the AMWU, TWU, the ETU and Hunter Workers have all played a really important role, and I also want to thank those concerned people who have reached out to my office and Minister Ayres's office with some brilliant ideas, particularly Oliver Yates, whom I met with this morning on a special finance vehicle. There are some great ideas coming forward, and we are leaning into this problem.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Roads</title>
          <page.no>71</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:42</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr RICK WILSON</name>
    <name.id>198084</name.id>
    <electorate>O'Connor</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to stand with the people of O'Connor, whose lives will be negatively impacted by the Albanese government's proposal to lower the default regional road speed to as low as 70 kilometres per hour. Thankfully, the coalition noticed that the Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development, Communications and the Arts' public submission process was not open for the requisite 42 days and secured an extension. Now regional residents, tourists, transporters, farmers and business owners have a proper opportunity to have their say on the cost and inconvenience of this bad policy. O'Connor's 20,000 kilometres of regional roads are already badly neglected, following the 2023 government review which led to Labor cutting regional road funding. They've dispensed with the Roads of Strategic Importance program and are abolishing the popular Local Roads and Community Infrastructure Program.</para>
<para>In contrast, when the coalition was in government, we prioritised funding programs for regional roads and freight routes, accident black spots, bridges renewal and heavy-vehicle rest bays. This is how you keep regional roads safe and the wheels of enterprise and leisure turning, all while reducing driver fatigue, one of the greatest contributors to road crashes and fatalities. A blanket reduction from 100 to 70 or even 80 kilometres an hour across our regional road networks simply makes no sense. Labor's go-slow will only increase travel times and driver fatigue and impede the delivery of critical goods and services to regional electorates like O'Connor.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Apprenticeships</title>
          <page.no>71</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:44</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ABDO</name>
    <name.id>316915</name.id>
    <electorate>Calwell</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Every apprentice deserves to be safe at work. That's why the Minister for Skills and Training brought colleagues together to establish a zero tolerance approach to apprentice harm, updating the national code of good practice for apprenticeships and traineeships. Governments, industry and advocates share responsibility for apprentice safety. We're working with states and territories, training providers, employers and unions to ensure every apprentice receives the training, support and protection they deserve. Research by the Electrical Trades Union found one in eight apprentice electricians has been exposed to a potentially deadly electrical shock at work, and, when classroom training is delayed, that risk doubles. That's not good enough. We must ensure our apprentices are safe in every classroom and on every job site.</para>
<para>Australia will need more than 100,000 additional electricians by 2050 to power the energy transition and to tackle housing. Through Apprentice Connect Australia, the $10,000 housing apprenticeship incentives and the $60 million Building Women's Careers Program, we're backing apprentices with skills, support and safe workplaces. Thank you to the ETU and to Aaron, Matt and Maya for their courage in speaking up and sharing their stories with us last week. Apprentices are a vulnerable cohort of young workers and workers new to the industry. They are the workers we need to help deliver the future of energy, housing and manufacturing, and of a future made in Australia.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>72</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:45</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr CALDWELL</name>
    <name.id>306489</name.id>
    <electorate>Fadden</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Australia national debt is, at $1.2 trillion, on the brink of being the highest in our nation's history—all of this at the hands of the current Treasurer. What does that represent in real terms? It could be $50,000 every minute or $72 million in a single day or $26 billion in interest every year down the gurgler.</para>
<para>This Labor government has poor economic management dressed up in slick spin. They are completely delusional in not acknowledging that Australians out there are doing it tough. The average mortgage has gone up by around $1,800 a month since Labor took office, and last week we saw some ABS data that had CPI headline numbers up by 1.3 per cent. They pulled out electricity for special mention. It has gone up by 23.6 per cent in just one year.</para>
<para>Now, tomorrow is Melbourne Cup Day and, quite frankly, under better economic managers, everyone should've had a win. Instead, interest rates will almost certainly remain at 3.25 per cent for the long haul. People are working harder but they're just not getting ahead.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Asche, Dr Leila Valerie, AM, Asche, Hon. Keith John Austin, AC, KC</title>
          <page.no>72</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:47</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr GOSLING</name>
    <name.id>245392</name.id>
    <electorate>Solomon</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I welcome the announcement that the late Dr Valerie Asche AM is the first Territory woman to have a suburb named after her in her own right. Dr Asche was a respected microbiologist and researcher, publishing over 40 papers and leading significant research on Northern Territory relevant diseases. Dr Asche passed away in 2019. This suburb naming recognises and honours her legacy within science and research and in community service.</para>
<para>Valerie's husband, the Hon. Austin Asche AC, KC, passed away earlier this year. Austin had a similar life of service and achievement, recording what they call the 'Territory trifecta' of the Administrator, the Chief Justice and the Emeritus Chancellor at Charles Darwin University. I also note that Austin was a World War II veteran who served with the RAAF. For this year's CDU annual Austin Asche oration we had the wonderful Lydia Khalil as the distinguished speaker on democracy and its discontents. Her oration explored how digital polarisation, disinformation and rising extremism are reshaping democratic systems in our country.</para>
<para>I offer my best regards to Valerie and Austin's children, Wendy and Harry, and their family and friends.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Employment</title>
          <page.no>72</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:49</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr YOUNG</name>
    <name.id>201906</name.id>
    <electorate>Longman</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>It's so good that, in the next couple of weeks, we've got a whole bunch of kids who'll be finishing 13 years of school. A lot of us can sort of remember that—it was a while ago. But there's some trepidation when people think: 'What the heck am I going to do with my life?' Can I say to those young people: look forward to it with anticipation and some sort of excitement, because you can do anything you put your mind to. For some people, that's going to be following the VET pathway. Some people are going through higher education. Some people will join the Defence Force or even take up a career with the emergency services. Whatever you do, do it with gusto and do it with pride because we live in a great country.</para>
<para>I've been to schools recently for their graduation awards, like Carmichael College, Narangba Valley State High School and St Columban's. I was struck by St Columban's; two of their older school captains came in and reiterated their story from five years ago. One has gone down the pathway of higher education and is on her way to becoming a physiotherapist, but the other one was going to do university and he then went out and had a crack at sales and is now enjoying a real estate career.</para>
<para>It doesn't matter how you start your journey in this life; it's how you finish. There's more than one pathway to success. Get out there, kids, and have a go. It's the Australian way. Good on you.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Ausify</title>
          <page.no>72</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:50</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms TEMPLEMAN</name>
    <name.id>181810</name.id>
    <electorate>Macquarie</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Don't you hate it when you've been listening to a favourite Missy Higgins song on your music app, and, instead of it taking you to another great Australian singer, it shifts you to an overseas artist? Well, that's the algorithm. Sixty-six per cent of Australians say they want to listen to more Australian music, but, currently, less than 10 per cent of music streamed by Australians comes from local artists. The algorithm just isn't geared to make Aussie music easily discoverable.</para>
<para>That's why Music Australia has launched Ausify, a national campaign to help listeners get more Aussie music out of the algorithm. Backed by artists from around the country, Ausify makes it easy to search for local artists on streaming services. There'll be a daily playlist of Australian music right through November, which is Ausmusic Month. They've also created 'Ausifyer', a unique live generator serving up a constant stream of great Australian music recommendations to help overcome the discoverability gap.</para>
<para>Tell the algorithm where to go, and take back control by discovering and supporting local artists. Head to ausify.com.au. Every local artist you seek out, play, follow, save, share, request and see live helps our musicians rise. By choosing Aussie music we can shift the algorithm, support artists and help our local scene thrive.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Environment: Coastal Inundation</title>
          <page.no>73</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:52</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms ALDRED</name>
    <name.id>11788</name.id>
    <electorate>Monash</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Coastal inundation is a huge issue of concern for many communities across my electorate of Monash. Bass Coast Shire Council, South Gippsland Shire Council and the Silverleaves Residents Action Group have been doing tremendous work but have been terribly let down by the Victorian state government, who literally have their heads in the sand about this very significant environmental issue. It's not just my community across Bass Coast and South Gippsland; communities right across Australia are grappling with the issue of coastal inundation. From Noosa to Port Stephens, this is a huge issue of concern, and, unfortunately, state Labor governments have left communities in the lurch.</para>
<para>I've been calling for a nationally coordinated framework to support local communities because groups like the Silverleaves Residents Action Group have been doing tremendous work for many years, but many of those residents are staring down the barrel of losing their homes. Coastal inundation continues to encroach upon many South Gippsland and Bass Coast communities. It is an issue of concern for my electorate and electorates right across Victoria. It's also an issue for the community of Port Melbourne, in the electorate of Macnamara. Victorians and Australians deserve better on the environment.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Albanese Government</title>
          <page.no>73</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:53</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms SITOU</name>
    <name.id>298121</name.id>
    <electorate>Reid</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>We've had a beautiful rendition of 'Scar' by Missy Higgins here in parliament. It was the break-up song of my generation. I suggest to the coalition it should be the theme song of their party room, because it's time they broke up. The Nationals have dumped their net zero targets, so I think it's time the Liberals dumped them. Let go of this toxic relationship.</para>
<para>Unlike the shambolic coalition, our commitments to the Australian people remain strong and unwavering. Today marks six months since Australians elected the Albanese Labor government for a second term. In six months we have set an ambitious and achievable climate target of 62 to 70 per cent emissions reduction by 2035, helping us deliver net zero by 2050. We've made it easier for people to buy their first home by expanding the Home Guarantee Scheme. We've delivered reform to our aged-care system, ensuring dignity for older Australians; we've strengthened Medicare, to make it easier for all Australians to see a GP; and we've cut student debt by 20 per cent, to help young Australians get ahead.</para>
<para>Australians asked for a government that would listen and deliver and, six months on, that's exactly what we are doing. Unlike those opposite, we're focused on Australian people not on keeping a toxic relationship together.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Local Content Broadcasting</title>
          <page.no>73</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:55</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BIRRELL</name>
    <name.id>288713</name.id>
    <electorate>Nicholls</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Australia has a proud history of locally produced content. Many shows have told great Australian stories. During that golden era of serialised drama on TV, we've had favourites like <inline font-style="italic">A T</inline><inline font-style="italic">own </inline><inline font-style="italic">L</inline><inline font-style="italic">ike Alice</inline>; <inline font-style="italic">Bodyline</inline>, the story of that famous Ashes series; <inline font-style="italic">T</inline><inline font-style="italic">he </inline><inline font-style="italic">Cowra B</inline><inline font-style="italic">reakout</inline>; <inline font-style="italic">Anzacs</inline>; <inline font-style="italic">The Dunera Boys</inline>, about the amazing contribution and the prisoner of war camp in Hay. Who could forget the Aussie classic <inline font-style="italic">A</inline><inline font-style="italic">ll the </inline><inline font-style="italic">Rivers R</inline><inline font-style="italic">un</inline>, filmed on the mighty Murray River at Echuca in my electorate? We watched them all for free on TV.</para>
<para>Now we have choice, with endless streaming services. It's changed since you used to stay up and watch Channel 6 or Channel 3, which is all I had. But do we have more Aussie drama to watch? No, we don't. In 2022, the Albanese government went to the election saying it would promote Australian creators on streaming platforms. In 2023, the Albanese government committed to legislating local content quotas for streaming services, with commencement in 2024, but, just like gambling advertisement reforms, nothing has happened in this area to promote Aussie content.</para>
<para>I back Australian drama. Get behind it, Labor; we're all watching.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Movember</title>
          <page.no>74</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:56</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr REPACHOLI</name>
    <name.id>298840</name.id>
    <electorate>Hunter</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Well, it turns out I do have a chin after all. Last week, my beard hit the deck after a solid innings of 12½ years. I first started growing it when my beautiful wife was pregnant with my first daughter, Zoe. Thanks to some incredible supporters, we raised over $125,000 for some amazing charities: Mark Hughes Foundation, the Royal Flying Doctor Service and CareFlight Australia. It's a whole lot of good coming from one hairy bloke.</para>
<para>A massive thanks to the Movember team for jumping in and helping to get the shave live on the <inline font-style="italic">Today </inline><inline font-style="italic">S</inline><inline font-style="italic">how</inline> with Karl and Sarah. I'm still recovering from how Karl attacked my face and also from my own reflection. To everyone who chipped in, whether it was a few bucks or a few thousand, thank you. A special shout-out to the Mining and Energy Union, who tipped in a huge $24,000, and to the team at All Ways Healthcare in Cessnock and Kurri Kurri, who chipped in $8,150. Massive thanks to the other huge supporters: Lion, Lilly Australia, the New South Wales Minerals Council, MACH Energy's Mount Pleasant operation and a couple of mystery donors who quietly dropped five grand or more on this as well. You know who you are, and thank you.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Dr Chalmers</name>
    <name.id>37998</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>You're welcome, Dan.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr REPACHOLI</name>
    <name.id>298840</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>We know it wasn't you, Jim. But the shave wasn't just about losing the beard; it was about showing what we can do as a group when we rally together, and we did that in the Hunter. So, if anyone's got any beard-growing tips out there, I need them, because I need to cover this bad boy again.</para>
</continue>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Environment: Christmas Island Shrew</title>
          <page.no>74</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:58</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BELL</name>
    <name.id>282981</name.id>
    <electorate>Moncrieff</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>We're very happy on this side that the beard's gone. Australia is the best country in the world, with the most iconic flora and fauna. Our ecosystem is unique and must be protected, but it seems to be going backwards under this government.</para>
<para>Australia's only shrew the Christmas Island shrew, has been added to the International Union for the Conservation of Nature's red list of extinct species this month. This marks Australia's 39th extinction—a sobering and tragic statistic. This government has stood idly by as this mouse sized mammal has gone extinct. The former environment minister, the member for Sydney, committed to preventing extinctions under this Albanese Labor government. Now we have seen yet another failure—another broken promise from this government that is all talk and no action when it comes to preserving our native species.</para>
<para>The list of this government's failures continues to grow. This extinction is a stain on our tragic environmental record, because Australia leads the world in mammal extinctions and ranks second—second—for loss of biodiversity. The environmental credentials this government claims to have were all washed up during the harmful algal bloom in South Australia. Now we can rightly say their so-called environmental credentials are completely and utterly extinct. It looks like the Prime Minister's Mr Fixit can't fix this one.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Albanese Government</title>
          <page.no>74</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:59</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr MATT SMITH</name>
    <name.id>312393</name.id>
    <electorate>Leichhardt</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Let me tell you how we over here are delivering for Australians. You already know the high points—record investment in Medicare, the Bruce Highway, HECS relief, five per cent deposits and more childcare centres in the Far North—but all of this can seem a little bit abstract. To give it the clarity it deserves, let me walk you through a random Saturday. The youngest rolls her ankle at sport on Saturday morning, but it's okay because a Medicare urgent care clinic is just around the corner. They can get an X-ray and a bit of reassurance and get home with just with their Medicare card. Perhaps they get an ice cream. They're feeling pretty good. Mum and dad feel pretty good. Their HECS debt has been cut by 20 per cent, and they are starting to look around at open homes because the five per cent deposit has opened up the door to homeownership. <inline font-style="italic">(Time expired)</inline></para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>In accordance with standing order 43, the time for members' statements has concluded.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>MINISTRY</title>
        <page.no>74</page.no>
        <type>MINISTRY</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Temporary Arrangements</title>
          <page.no>74</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:00</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
    <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I inform the House that the Minister for Small Business, International Development and Multicultural Affairs will be absent from question time this week. The Treasurer will answer questions on her behalf in relation to small business, and the Minister for Home Affairs will answer questions on her behalf in relation to multicultural affairs and international development.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</title>
        <page.no>75</page.no>
        <type>DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Acknowledgement</title>
          <page.no>75</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:00</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
    <electorate></electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I inform the House that the Rt Hon. Gerry Brownlee MP, Speaker of the New Zealand House of Representatives, is within the precincts. With the concurrence of honourable members, I propose to provide him with a seat on the floor of the House.</para>
<para>Honourable members: Hear, hear!</para>
<para class="italic"> <inline font-style="italic">Speaker Brownlee was then seated accordingly.</inline></para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Members, allow me on your behalf to extend a very warm welcome to my friend and colleague Speaker Brownlee. I have been informed that it has been 21 years since a visiting speaker joined us on the floor. The last was the late Jonathan Hunt, also of the New Zealand parliament. Australia and New Zealand share a uniquely close relationship. On behalf of all members, I wish you a warm welcome to Australia and, in particular, to the House of Representatives.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:02</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
    <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>on indulgence—I join with you, Mr Speaker, in welcoming Gerry Brownlee to the Australian parliament, from the New Zealand parliament. Gerry, if I can be so bold as to call him that, is an old mate of mine. We served as transport ministers together and worked together very closely across the ditch, as Australia and New Zealand always do and as I did last week with Prime Minister Luxon at ASEAN and APEC.</para>
<para>We wish you well. We look forward to continuing engagement with our Kiwi brothers and sisters. I thank New Zealand's parliament, as well, for the very warm welcome that I received during the leaders meeting, which we had in Queenstown just a couple of months ago. We wish you well.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:03</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms LEY</name>
    <name.id>00AMN</name.id>
    <electorate>Farrer</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>on indulgence—it's an honour indeed to welcome New Zealand's Speaker of the House of Representatives, the Rt Hon. Gerry Brownlee, to the floor of our parliament today. Being offered a seat on the floor of the House is a rare honour and has not occurred for very many years, but it is a reflection of the respect and love we have for our brothers and sisters across the ditch.</para>
<para>I offer the opposition's deep appreciation for your presence here, Speaker, and for the enduring bond between our two countries. It's more than just shared history and shared values; it's built through families and businesses and through a real commitment to peace and security across our region. Welcome to Canberra.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</title>
        <page.no>75</page.no>
        <type>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>75</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:04</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms LEY</name>
    <name.id>00AMN</name.id>
    <electorate>Farrer</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Prime Minister. In August this year, the Prime Minister said Australia had 'turned the corner' on inflation, yet, devastatingly, last week we saw inflation rising again. Economists are saying this has all but killed off a much-needed rate cut before Christmas. Under Labor we have rising inflation and rising unemployment. Prime Minister, households are stretched to the limit. When will prices come down for Australian families?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:04</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
    <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the Leader of the Opposition for her question, but, as everyone in this parliament knows, and Australians know as well, the inflation rate had a six in front of it when we came to office and it now has a three in front of it. Yes, there was a rise in the latest figures, but that was after a number of falls. Indeed interest rates, which the member referred to as well, commenced to fall under us. They started to rise under the former government, as the member knows well. And the unemployment rate has a four in front of it. We have seen employment continue to grow—more than a million jobs being created on our watch—and the lowest average unemployment of any government in five decades.</para>
<para>We are very proud of our record when it comes to the economy, such as the fact that, for the first time in decades, this Treasurer produced two budget surpluses in a row as well as lower deficits than what they went to the election on. At the election, held six months ago today, the Australian people gave their verdict on the choice before them: a Labor government committed to continuing to put downward pressure on inflation, a Labor government continuing to provide cost-of-living relief, a Labor government continuing to stand up for Australian jobs and a Labor government committed to real action on climate change—or the alternative. The alternative that was before the Australian people was—</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The Leader of the Opposition on a point of order?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Ms Ley</name>
    <name.id>00AMN</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>It's a point of relevance. It was a direct question: when will prices start to come down?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Yes, but you also indicated about inflation and employment. The Prime Minister has dealt with the inflation numbers and the employment figures in his answer to the question. So yes, I understand that you'd like a date or a time, but I think anyone would agree that the Prime Minister is being directly relevant. He's got 56 seconds left, and he'll be able to answer the question, as long as he's being directly relevant, and I think everyone can agree that he is being directly relevant.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Thanks, Mr Speaker. The Australian people, six months ago today, had that choice before them, and they chose not to vote for the option that said, remarkably—and it is quite an achievement, I will say, to our New Zealand brother who is here on the floor with us today, that they actually managed to go to an election saying this—that the deficits would be higher but taxes would be higher as well. They put forward an option that said that a vote for the Liberal Party is a vote for higher taxes and higher deficits. The Australian people rejected them, and the Australian people are continuing to reject them.</para>
</continue>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>International Relations</title>
          <page.no>76</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:08</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BRISKEY</name>
    <name.id>263427</name.id>
    <electorate>Maribyrnong</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Prime Minister. How have the Prime Minister's recent international meetings advanced Australia's national interest? And why is it important for Australian jobs, trade and industry at home?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:08</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
    <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for Maribyrnong for her question. In all of our international engagements, there is one focus: how do we support Australian jobs? How do we support Australian economic growth? How do we set Australia up for the future? In today's globalised world, what happens around the world has an impact. The Russian invasion of Ukraine had an impact on global inflation in supermarkets, whether in New Zealand, Australia or anywhere else. That is why we very much enjoy constructive engagement. We deal with our partners and allies respectfully in the interests of our national interest.</para>
<para>Recently, in the last month, I've had three meetings with President Trump—in New York, firstly, then an extensive meeting in Washington, DC, where I went with the Minister for Resources and our minister for industry as well, and then, on the sidelines of APEC, we were able to have dinner last week. That is important because the United States is our most important ally. In the engagement that we have with the United States, whether it be the AUKUS arrangements that, of course, have been not just endorsed but strengthened by President Trump, whether it be our defence investments which were endorsed by President Trump or whether it be our critical minerals and rare earths strategy, it is very important that we engage in the opportunity that is there before Australia. This represents an $8.5 billion pipeline of critical minerals projects that's been identified already, where Australia and the United States can work together to create jobs here and to create economic activity and economic benefit right here in Australia as well. Demand is growing, of course, for those minerals, but so is our capacity to value-add to them. One of the things that we want to do is learn the lessons of the past, not just dig up resources, export them and wait for value to be added and jobs to be created somewhere else. We want them created here.</para>
<para>Similarly, at ASEAN and APEC, I met with more than 20 leaders, advocating for Australian trade, jobs and industry at every single opportunity. One in four Australian jobs depends upon our trade, and that's why Australia supports free and fair trade. That's why we engage with our partners, and APEC alone makes up some 75 per cent of Australia's trading relationships. We are trusted and respected in the eyes of the world precisely because we engage respectfully with the world—the public sector and the private sector as well, as evidenced by the event hosted by BHP and Dominic Perrottet in Washington, DC, as well.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cost of Living</title>
          <page.no>76</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:11</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr VIOLI</name>
    <name.id>300147</name.id>
    <electorate>Casey</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Prime Minister. Prime Minister, research conducted by the St Vincent de Paul Society shows Australian families are still confronting cost-of-living turmoil. Thirty-two per cent have skipped meals or gone without food to cover essentials, 36 per cent of Australian families are concerned about going without food and 62 per cent said that cost-of-living pressures are making it difficult to plan for Christmas this year. Is this what the Prime Minister meant when he said no Australian would be left behind?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:12</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
    <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for his question. Of course cost-of-living pressures are real, and that is why we are acting on them in a real way. We have, since 1 July, delivered a pay rise for all minimum and award wage workers, taking the total increase under this government to over $9,000. The number of times that the coalition, in government or in opposition, has made a submission to a Fair Work case supporting an increase in real wages is zero. We know they don't support net zero, but we know also they are net zero when it comes to increases in real wages.</para>
<para>The superannuation guarantee increased to 12 per cent, paid parental leave extended to 24 weeks, and super is now being paid on paid parental leave. More energy bill relief was opposed by those opposite each and every time. A $10,000 bonus for housing apprentices on top of their wages was opposed by those opposite. The batteries program that has seen more than 100,000—I haven't caught up with the latest figure, but I'm sure you'll hear it later in question time! I'm sure it's coming. I'm confident of that. Australians are taking up that opportunity.</para>
<para>The boost to Medicare that we are doing today, where more than a thousand medical practices have already signed up to fully bulk-bill everyone who goes through those doors, is making an enormous difference. We're opening up, as well, another 50 urgent care clinics. We've cut student debt by 20 per cent, something that we announced exactly one year ago and, remarkably, was opposed by those opposite. They took that to an election as a saving for them. What we did was to do a saving for students and graduates of an average of $5½ thousand each time, and to make a difference to all of these measures: the $20,000 instant asset write-off, extended for another year, and more choice, lower cost and higher quality care for Australian women as well. And of course, importantly, we have frozen draught beer excise for two years, making a difference as well. We will continue to engage in all of these measures, including cheaper medicines.</para>
<para>There's one thing they have in common, though. Every single measure by the government, before the last election and since, has been opposed by those opposite.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Mining Industry: Critical Minerals Strategy</title>
          <page.no>77</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:15</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr FRENCH</name>
    <name.id>316550</name.id>
    <electorate>Moore</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Minister for Resources and Minister for Northern Australia. How is the Albanese Labor government diversifying the global supply chain of critical minerals and rare earths and boosting Australia's resource sector here at home?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:15</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms MADELEINE KING</name>
    <name.id>102376</name.id>
    <electorate>Brand</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for Moore for his question. The need to diversify supply chains of critical minerals and rare earths is a global challenge. Our great island continent holds in its geology the elements of the periodic table we need for the modern technology we rely on, for the green energy production we need for our energy security and to reduce emissions, and for the technology that ensures our national security and our national defence. This government is stepping up to lead on critical minerals supply chains globally. Under the leadership of this Prime Minister, this government has invested $28 billion into an industry of global significance. Prime Minister Albanese and this government are leading efforts across the G7, the G20 and the Quad, and also bilaterally, to diversify global supply.</para>
<para>I was delighted to be alongside the Minister for Industry and Innovation in Washington to witness our Prime Minister and the President of the United States agree the historic critical minerals framework. This Australia-US framework is now the model for all US engagement around the world, and together we are leading the way. It is an $8 billion pipeline of critical minerals projects that will bring more stable, more secure jobs to Australians right around this country.</para>
<para>No Prime Minister has done more than this Prime Minister to boost the resources sector of this nation. In Canada last week, I was delighted to represent Australia at a meeting of G7 ministers in Toronto, where I discussed with G7 counterparts the implementation of a critical minerals production alliance, a collaboration between the G7 nations to diversify global critical minerals supply.</para>
<para>There are three factors that get Australia a seat at the table of a G7 meeting of ministers. Firstly, it's our commitment to net zero emissions by 2050. Secondly, it's our commitment to environmental protection. Thirdly, very importantly, it's our commitment to the sustainable production of critical minerals and rare earth elements, and changing the supply-chain monopoly. This government is committed to all three of those factors. Those opposite are committed to absolutely none of them.</para>
<para>I was delighted to also sign a joint declaration on the sidelines, a declaration of intent with Canada to deepen our links with them and our collaboration on critical minerals and rare earths. I also witnessed a heads of agreement between Ucore, Wyloo and Hastings to link offtake to the Yangibana rare earths project, another critical project that will go to diversifying our supply chains.</para>
<para>This government has done the hard work to develop policy in critical minerals and rare earths, and we will continue to do this work to ensure the future of the critical minerals sector and the critical minerals and rare earths processing industry of this country.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</title>
        <page.no>77</page.no>
        <type>DISTINGUISHED VISITORS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Acknowledgement</title>
          <page.no>77</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:18</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
    <electorate></electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I am pleased to inform the House that in the gallery today is the Australian Local Government Association national President, Councillor Matt Burnett, and representatives from the Local Government Association of Queensland, led by CEO Ms Alison Smith.</para>
<para>I see a number of former members in the gallery today, including the Hon. Michael Lee, former member for Dobell and minister in the Keating government; Louise Markus, a former member for Greenway and for Macquarie; and Graham Perrett, the former member for Moreton—who I know will be silent during question time.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</title>
        <page.no>78</page.no>
        <type>QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Local Content Broadcasting</title>
          <page.no>78</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:19</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms STEGGALL</name>
    <name.id>175696</name.id>
    <electorate>Warringah</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>To the Prime Minister: Manel Lopez is a sound technician in the film industry with over 25 years' experience. He wrote to me: 'I've reached the point where working in the industry is unsustainable. I'm at the end of my resilience. Mentally, financially, the situation has taken a huge toll on me and my family. This is happening all over the country. We need local content quotas, but we needed them five years ago. It was a promise that Labor took to the election. For many of us, it's almost too late.' Will the government make good on its repeated promises to legislate local content quotas on streamers and save these Australian jobs?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:20</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
    <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Just briefly—before I hand to the arts minister—we very much support local content in the Australian arts sector, right across the board. Whether it be people who are involved in drama and production in that area, whether it be music—and Missy Higgins was good enough to come here to support Australian music today—or whether it be all of the creative sector, we are really proud of what our government has done and we'll continue to engage so that Australian voices are heard.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:20</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BURKE</name>
    <name.id>DYW</name.id>
    <electorate>Watson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Thanks to the Prime Minister. The policy of the government hasn't changed. The principle that we're working towards is really simple. If you pick up your remote control at home, and you go to the ABC or SBS, you're guaranteed Australian content. If you go to the commercial TV stations, there's still some level of Australian content guaranteed. If you go to Foxtel, there's still Australian content. Yet, if you're sitting there with the same remote control, flicking to any of the streaming services, there's currently no guarantee of Australian content. This is something where people are aware of some of the different negotiations that the government has been doing, but, effectively, the objective is simple: no matter which remote control you're holding, Australian content should be at your fingertips.</para>
<para>The methods that we've used previously for other forms of Australian content don't match with the streaming services. For example, what we do on free-to-air TV, where you have particular times of day and guarantees, don't work when you're dealing with an on-demand service. Similarly, the guaranteed funding that happens to SBS or the ABC doesn't work for a commercial streaming service. So the methods have to be different, and that means we need to work through a series of different trade obligations. But, in doing so, the government's objective, which we've previously stated, remains completely on foot, and we hope to continue to be able to report more to the House.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Energy</title>
          <page.no>78</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:22</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mrs PHILLIPS</name>
    <name.id>147140</name.id>
    <electorate>Gilmore</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Minister for Climate Change and Energy. How are people in rural and regional Australia taking up the opportunities of clean, reliable energy? What are the threats to the best interests of rural and regional Australians?</para>
<para>Opposition members interjecting—</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Order! The member for Lyne.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:22</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BOWEN</name>
    <name.id>DZS</name.id>
    <electorate>McMahon</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank my honourable friend for her question, and what a champion job she does in representing the interests of regional Australians and rural Australians in this House, representing the aspirations of those on that beautiful part of the south coast of New South Wales. The honourable member for Gilmore knows that people in regional Australia are taking up the opportunities for cheaper and more reliable energy, particularly through the Albanese government's Cheaper Home Batteries Program, which, I am pleased to inform the House today, has now been taken up by 108,494 Australian households.</para>
<para>Increasingly, we see a heavy representation from rural and regional Australia in those figures. The member knows that the people of Gilmore have taken up the scheme with some great enthusiasm, but I have to say it is not a podium finish anymore in New South Wales, because the electorate with the highest take-up of cheaper home batteries in all of New South Wales is Page. Second, we have Richmond. Coming in a very strong third in the trifecta is the member for Riverina, who has the third-highest take-up of cheaper home batteries in all of Australia. I know it warms his heart to see his constituents taking up the opportunities of cleaner, more reliable, cheaper energy.</para>
<para>Opposition members interjecting—</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The member for Gippsland. The Leader of the Nationals.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BOWEN</name>
    <name.id>DZS</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>And many people who have solar panels and a battery get a net zero energy bill. It is a very good thing to get a net zero energy bill, and some of them, indeed, get paid.</para>
<para>Of course, just as it is on the small scale, this is also true with the large scale. Of course, people in rural and regional Australia know we need to get this right. We need to get the community consultation right and the community benefits right, and it's good to know that around $200 million of community benefits will flow to regional communities between now and 2030 and a billion dollars of benefit to the landholders and farmers who are taking up the opportunities and droughtproofing their income. These are matters that were discussed at the Farmers for Climate Action conference here in Canberra earlier this year, which I spoke at. I didn't run into many members of the National Party there; in fact, I didn't see any. But they know that those in rural and regional and Australia are the people who are going to pay the price of climate change, with natural disasters and farm productivity falling. This was a view put by a delegate from the Young Nationals who said, in relation to any decision to move away from net zero, 'Regional Australians will be paying the price for increased natural disasters.' I think Perrin Rennie is correct. He's speaking up for future generations in regional Australia who know that they will pay a price in natural disasters and falling farm productivity, and that will be the price of the betrayal by those who are meant to represent farmers in regional Australia but who just do not.</para>
</continue>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>79</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:26</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TED O'BRIEN</name>
    <name.id>138932</name.id>
    <electorate>Fairfax</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question goes to the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister finally pulled his Treasurer into line, forcing a backflip on his super tax. While the Prime Minister was overseas, inflation hit its highest level in 2½ years, smashing through the top of the RBA's target band. Now the Prime Minister has returned home, will he again pull his Treasurer into line to stop his spending spree, taking pressure off mortgage holders who are paying $1,800 more every single month on interest compared to when the coalition left office?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:26</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
    <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I'm pleased to get a question from someone who, of course, is now shadow Treasurer. He was promoted into the position of shadow Treasurer after going to an election with a $600 billion plan for nuclear power in the 2040s.</para>
<para>Honourable members interjecting—</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Order! The deputy leader has asked his question.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>And he actually has the hide to come here and ask a question that speaks about spending sprees when he had a $600 billion plan and the previous question up the back—</para>
</continue>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>No. The yelling is going to stop, Deputy Leader of the Opposition. We don't need it. Interjections I can live with, but not the yelling. So no more interjections. I'm going to have to warn you. We'll reset, and the Prime Minister will continue with his answer.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The previous question, Mr Speaker, as you'll recall, was about cost-of-living measures. We know that, if you listen between the lines of that question, what they're saying is they would rip and cut everything that we are doing when it comes to cost-of-living measures to assist people. That is what we know that they would do, because it is in their DNA.</para>
<para>Then he had the hide to ask a question about superannuation. Labor is the party of superannuation. We created it. We strengthened it. The measures that have been put forward by the Treasurer will further strengthen the universal superannuation system. For a start, they affect a small number. They were apoplectic about 0.5 per cent of people who will be impacted by the changes, an equity measure. Not only do we now have an equity measure that we tried to get through last time but that was blocked by the 'no-alition' in the Senate; now we have a two-tier system. Just as our income tax system under this government is progressive—like the changes that we made to stage 3—we have made changes to superannuation which will make it more progressive as well, consistent with what Labor governments do every single time. At the same time, of course, we have legislated—</para>
</continue>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The Prime Minister will pause. I've been really fair with the deputy leader, and I was crystal clear and said 'no interjections'. I said the yelling would stop, as would interjections. So you're going to have to leave under 94(a). If I give a commitment, I expect people to listen. I can't be fairer than that. You can have a good go, but no-one can take the mickey here.</para>
<para class="italic"> <inline font-style="italic">The member for Fairfax then left the chamber.</inline></para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>These are five measures, including on paid parental leave and super on paid parental leave, that we have done. That was never even thought about by those opposite. Last week, payday super passed the House, giving a lifetime boost to Australians' super balances. That was never done by those opposite. We are empowering the ATO to identify and follow up unpaid super so that it's paid fairly. We've made changes to lift the low-income super tax offset to $810 and to increase the eligibility threshold from $37,000 to $45,000. All of these measures, under this Treasurer and the Assistant Treasurer, are strengthening superannuation. That is what Labor governments do. <inline font-style="italic">(Time expired)</inline></para>
</continue>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Medicare</title>
          <page.no>80</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:30</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ABDO</name>
    <name.id>316915</name.id>
    <electorate>Calwell</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Minister for Health and Ageing. How is the Albanese Labor government delivering on our commitment to more Australians accessing bulk-billing? Why is it so important after a decade of cuts and neglect?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:30</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BUTLER</name>
    <name.id>HWK</name.id>
    <electorate>Hindmarsh</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The member for Calwell has, frankly, had too much contact with the healthcare system over the last 12 months. First of all the system was caring for his mum, and then for his wife Natascha and for their beautiful baby boy, Noah. Noah returned home on election day after a long stay in the neonatal unit in Northern Hospital. That was six months ago today, and we're delighted he's doing so well. The member told us in his first speech how much he cherishes Medicare as a son, as a husband and as a father, and I know how hard he's working to strengthen Medicare as a member of this parliament. Last week, fewer than 40 per cent of GP clinics in the member for Calwell's electorate bulk-billed all of their patients. In just a few days, that number has this week almost doubled to over 75 per cent. Today, three in four GP clinics in the member for Calwell's electorate are bulk-billing every single patient who comes through their door because of the record investment that kicked off, from our government, on Saturday.</para>
<para>When we came to government, bulk-billing was in freefall. That's not my description; that's the word that was used by the college of GPs—and it's no mystery why. After Peter Dutton froze the Medicare rebate for a couple of years, the current Leader of the Opposition as health minister not only locked in that freeze but extended it for four long years. Surprise, surprise: when you freeze the income of GPs, bulk-billing starts to come under pressure.</para>
<para>Well, we're turning that around. We are turning that around because, for Labor, bulk-billing is the beating heart of the Medicare system. It's a system that means Australians visit their GP when they need to, rather than when they feel they can finally afford to. Over three budgets now, this government led by this Prime Minister has steadily repaired the damage and the vandalism done to Medicare by the Liberal Party. We've delivered the three biggest overall increases to the Medicare rebate in the 30 years since Paul Keating was prime minister: number 1, number 2 and number 3. We tripled the bulk-billing incentive that doctors receive to bulk-bill pensioners, concession card holders and kids—which has turned the bulk-billing rate around for those 11 million Australians. It is back up to 92 per cent. And from this weekend, for the first time ever, we've extended bulk-billing support to every single Australian. Today, well over 1,000 general practices that last week were charging gap fees are this week bulk-billing every single patient that comes through their doors. That will grow every single day as we go about the hard work of delivering on our promise to strengthen Medicare.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Veterans</title>
          <page.no>80</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:33</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr CHESTER</name>
    <name.id>IPZ</name.id>
    <electorate>Gippsland</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Prime Minister. The now Prime Minister issued a media release on 24 May 2020 titled 'Tasmanian war hero Teddy Sheean deserves Victoria Cross', and I quote from it:</para>
<quote><para class="block">It is never too late to honour the meaning of Lest We Forget, or to commemorate the courage of one of our own.</para></quote>
<para>Prime Minister, does the 20-year time limit your government is placing on inquiries on the Defence Honours and Awards Appeals Tribunal mean that Teddy Sheean's gallantry would not have been a reviewable action?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:34</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr KEOGH</name>
    <name.id>249147</name.id>
    <electorate>Burt</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for his question, because it goes to the heart of one of the problems in his critique of the legislation that's being considered by the House at the moment. While we are attempting to modernise the way in which the tribunal operates, he tries to use as an example, which he did just then, (1) a matter where an application could still be brought to Defence for such honour to be bestowed, (2) a matter that an inquiry could still be conducted in relation to and, most importantly, (3) one in which he tries to imply that what the tribunal did in the case of Teddy Sheean was the thing that affected the previous government's decision.</para>
<para>The reason the Prime Minister put out that press release in the first place was that the previous government, despite the tribunal's recommendation, said no and set up a completely separate process because of the pressure brought by veterans and by this government when it was in opposition. Stop misleading people, shadow minister.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>80</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:35</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms STANLEY</name>
    <name.id>265990</name.id>
    <electorate>Werriwa</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Treasurer. What is the Albanese Labor government doing to ease the cost of living and to strengthen Medicare after a decade of cuts and neglect? How does this compare to other approaches?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:36</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr CHALMERS</name>
    <name.id>37998</name.id>
    <electorate>Rankin</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Thanks to the member for Werriwa for her question but, much more importantly than that, thanks for being a champion for Medicare in your local community to the south-west of Sydney. Even with the progress we've made, getting inflation down to half what we inherited from those opposite, getting real wages growing again, keeping unemployment low and seeing three interest rate cuts already this year, we know that Australians are still under pressure. But, more than acknowledging that, we're doing something about it. We're delivering cost-of-living relief, we're securing our triple-A credit rating, and we're managing the budget and managing the economy in a responsible way.</para>
<para>One of the most important ways we are delivering that cost-of-living relief is by strengthening Medicare in every community. As the Minister for Health said a moment ago, Saturday was a really important day, because we started expanding bulk-billing incentives and started bonuses for practices that bulk-bill every patient. We are strengthening Medicare because more bulk-billing means less pressure on families. It's the same reason we're building more urgent care clinics. It's the same reason we lifted the low-income threshold for the Medicare levy, and why we're making medicines cheaper, at the same times as we're protecting penalty rates, boosting wages, cutting student debt, helping with electricity bills and making batteries cheaper, and at the same time as we've got two more tax cuts on the way. It's why we're boosting super balances, and the LISTO, and getting the super guarantee to 12 per cent. It's why we're paying super on paid parental leave, paying it on payday, making super fairer from top to bottom, as the Prime Minister said a moment ago.</para>
<para>The progress we have made together in our economy has already given the Reserve Bank board the confidence to cut interest rates three times this year. When we came to office, interest rates were coming up; they've gone down three times this year. The interest rate cuts that are already in the system are saving a household with a $700,000 mortgage about $330 a month, or around $4,000 a year. So, we are delivering cost-of-living help and responsible economic management, and that's the difference between this side of the House and that side of the House. They are divided, they are divisive and they are in disarray. The have net zero credibility on the cost of living, on the budget and on the economy.</para>
<para>But we won't be distracted by the hunger games that are playing out on that side of the House. We will continue to deliver for the people who sent us here to represent them. Strengthening Medicare and delivering cost-of-living relief in the most responsible way we can is a really important part of that effort.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>81</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:38</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mrs McINTOSH</name>
    <name.id>281513</name.id>
    <electorate>Lindsay</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Prime Minister. The Western Sydney suburbs of Campbelltown, Mount Druitt and Liverpool have two things in common: (1) more than 90 per cent of mortgage holders are struggling to pay their mortgage and (2) they're represented by Labor MPs. Prime Minister, why do Australian households have to suffer because this government can't control its reckless spending and inflation? Does the Prime Minister have any plan to address mortgage stress in these Western Sydney suburbs?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:39</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
    <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for her question. As the Treasurer has just outlined, since we have come to office inflation is half what we inherited. Interest rates have gone down three times this year. They started to rise under those opposite. We went to an election promising much lower spending than those opposite, which is why they had two higher deficits going forward. At the same time, of course, what matters to a household income is money coming in as well as money going out. What we've done is increase real wages. Quarter after quarter after quarter after quarter, we have increased real wages, opposed by those opposite. They opposed all of our industrial relations measures. They opposed commonsense measures, such as same job, same pay. I've met people in those electorates, such as workers in the aviation sector, who are literally earning five figures more than they would have, as a direct result of our same job, same pay legislation.</para>
<para>We've created 1.1 million jobs. Three on five of them have been full time. Under this government, the gap between women's wages and male wages is the lowest it has ever been. We have record women's workforce participation as well. We've produced tax cuts for every single taxpayer, and there are two more rounds to come. We want people to earn more and to keep more of what they earn. That's something that we've said repeatedly, which I've noticed has been repeated without the substance by some of those opposite as well.</para>
<para>We'll continue to roll out cost-of-living support. I'd ask the member for Lindsay to think about supporting some of it some time—supporting energy bill relief, supporting cheaper child care, supporting cheaper medicines or the 60-day dispensing, supporting the measures that have come in today, which will allow for increased GP appointments, supporting the batteries that are being rolled out in the member for Lindsay's electorate and supporting free TAFE. Do you remember free TAFE, something that those opposite said, from the top down, people don't value if they don't pay for it? Let me tell you that 685,000 Australians have benefited from free TAFE. Those opposite opposed it.</para>
<para>They opposed, as well, student debt relief for more than three million Australians. This government will continue to stand up for a strong economy and continue to stand up on issues like cost-of-living relief. Those opposite will continue to just oppose everything, whether it's opposing what we're doing or opposing what each other are doing. <inline font-style="italic">(Time expired)</inline></para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Medicare</title>
          <page.no>82</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:42</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CHESTERS</name>
    <name.id>249710</name.id>
    <electorate>Bendigo</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government. How is the Albanese Labor government strengthening Medicare in the regions? Why is this so important after a decade of cuts and neglect?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:42</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CATHERINE KING</name>
    <name.id>00AMR</name.id>
    <electorate>Ballarat</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for Bendigo for her question. Victorians know there's a healthy rivalry between Bendigo and Ballarat. But what there's not a rivalry about, a fact that both of us know, is just how important Medicare and bulk-billing are to our regional communities. When you're sick and you need to see a doctor, it shouldn't be a struggle. It is why this government is making the single largest investment in Medicare since its creation over 40 years ago, with $8.5 billion that is delivering more bulk-billing and more doctors across Australia.</para>
<para>For the first time, bulk-billing incentives will be paid to GPs for every patient that they bulk-bill, and we're delivering an additional 18 million bulk-billed GP visits each year. Medicare payments in regional bulk-billing practices will be double what they are now. This investment is making a real difference across the whole of the country, but, in our regions in particular, it is an absolute game changer. This investment is making a difference. In my own electorate, more GP clinics are now fully bulk-billed. In fact, 18 clinics have changed from mixed billing to bulk-billing because of the changes of this government. That includes Q1 Medical in Lucas, the Eureka medical centre in Ballarat and Springs Medical in Daylesford and Trentham—and they've also got a practice in Kyneton, in the member for Bendigo's electorate. The members for Flynn in Queensland and Cowper in the mid north coast of New South Wales are seeing 16 clinics in their electorate move from mixed billing to bulk-billing. So we know that more than 1,000 GP clinics have now taken up the challenge to actually bulk-bill 100 per cent of their patients. Almost 800 of these are in regional and remote communities. It's all part of our commitment to ensure nine out of 10 GP visits will be bulk-billed by 2030.</para>
<para>Compare that, of course, to what those opposite did when they were in government. We saw in the 2014 cut-and-slash budget, of course, $50 billion cut from public hospitals and attempts to put on increased co-payments to make medicines more expensive. They wanted to put a co-payment on every single emergency visit, and then what they also wanted to do was bake in a $7 and then a $20 GP tax. They then, because they couldn't get that through the Senate, decided to freeze the Medicare rebate—not just for two years but, under the Leader of the Opposition's watch, for four years. That did significant damage to bulk-billing rates and to our healthcare system. After that decade of appalling neglect of our healthcare system—the wrecking of Medicare—this government is getting on with the job of actually restoring bulk-billing and restoring Medicare. That benefits regional Australia.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Environment</title>
          <page.no>82</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:46</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms WATSON-BROWN</name>
    <name.id>300127</name.id>
    <electorate>Ryan</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Prime Minister. Your proposed EPBC changes have received support from Chevron, BHP and the Minerals Council but have been widely criticised by environment NGOs like the Australian Conservation Foundation as failing to protect nature and the planet. Why has Labor prioritised the interests of big corporations over people and nature?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:46</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
    <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for her question. The truth is that our environment laws aren't working. There is a very broad consensus that that is the case, and we are working to get it right, because they're not working for business and they're not working for the environment. Approvals take too long; processes lack certainty and need to be streamlined. These are laws that were drafted in the Howard era for the Howard era and are just not fit for purpose. We believe that the laws that are before the parliament are balanced. They will help to grow the economy, but they'll also help to make sure that future generations of Australians get to enjoy the benefits of our unique environment. The author of the report that was commissioned by the former government, Graeme Samuel, has come out very clearly and said that the laws that have been put forward are consistent with Graeme Samuel's review.</para>
<para>I'm not quite sure that the member is being fair dinkum with the quotes that she says of the groups that are supporting this legislation, to be honest. What we need to do is to not play these games, which led to nothing being carried during the last term, of a 'no-alition'—people saying they're against it. They sat in the parliament for a long period of time and were up there in the Senate, waiting for them to be carried.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Order! The member for Mallee on a point of order?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Dr Webster</name>
    <name.id>281688</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Speaker, you have made a ruling in the past about the Prime Minister and others referring to those on this side of the House as the 'no-alition', and I bring that to your attention.</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>We have dealt with this. The Prime Minister was talking about the 'no-alition' of everyone opposing it. If he were describing the coalition as the 'no-alition'—</para>
<para>Opposition members interjecting—</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Well, there is a difference, but it would greatly help me if people just referred to everyone by their titles and political parties. We've had this discussion before.</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The member for Lindsay! I don't need that sort of commentary. It's not very professional or helpful.</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Order! The member for Barker is not helping either. I remind everyone—with their correct titles. But the terms the Prime Minister is using, he believes, are correct.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Well, Mr Speaker, they out themselves, because 'no-alition' is just a word describing people who are against everything. It doesn't refer to the coalition, necessarily, or the Greens political party. It's a self-identification from that point of order by objecting to everything. But it has expanded, because now we have people who say no to everything that the government puts forward, but they also say no to everything that each other puts forward as well. That's what we've seen from the disorder, if I can use that term, of those opposite over the last period.</para>
<para>This is sensible reform. Everyone in the Senate, regardless of where they come from, should look at it on its merits and should vote for it, because this is sensible. It's good for the environment, it's good for jobs, it's good for certainty, it's good for industry. What people want is quicker yeses or quicker noes—that's what this legislation is about.</para>
</continue>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Health Care</title>
          <page.no>83</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:50</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms FRANCE</name>
    <name.id>270198</name.id>
    <electorate>Dickson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Prime Minister. How is the Albanese Labor government delivering on its commitment to strengthen Medicare, and how does it help Australians to access the quality, affordable health care they deserve? Are there any threats to this investment?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:51</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
    <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for Dickson for her question as someone who we welcome back to the parliament. The last time we spoke the member for Dickson hospital receiving the sort of care that comes through our public health system that makes an enormous difference in order for people to fully contribute to society. The member for Dickson will be contributing for a long time, I have no doubt about that, as a member of this place and as a champion of that community in the northern suburbs of Brisbane.</para>
<para>On Saturday we deliver the biggest investment in Medicare since Labor created it 40 years ago, tripling the bulk-billing incentive for every Australian. It was a commitment we made in the electorate of Bass in January or February at the beginning of this year, but we are now delivering, creating a new incentive payment for GP clinics to bulk-bill every patient. The good news is that more than 1,000 clinics have already signed up to become fully bulk-billed because of our investment. Today I was with the minister and the senator for the ACT, Senator Gallagher, with Dr Conrad and a couple of his patients, John and Lucio. Lucio had been going to that clinic for 40 years; John for over a decade. We heard firsthand the difference that bulk-billing of Medicare will make. Dr Conrad, at that clinic, specialises in sun checks for people's skin, something that we know is an example of where early intervention and identification is not only good for patients but also saves money for the system.</para>
<para>If you get health care right, if you intervene early, if your GP has a relationship with the patients they look after—and many of us have had the same GP for a long time—from that understanding and care and trust which has built up, it can be better health care which benefits the individual. It also will stop what might be a small problem from becoming an acute healthcare issue. That is why that community around Belconnen, where we were today, will benefit from this as one of the many clinics making this decision. As they make that assessment about what is in the financial interest of the clinics—because some 18,000 of them will be better off—that will provide that incentive for us to deliver on the 90 per cent, which is the object of this policy for being bulk-billed.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Housing</title>
          <page.no>83</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:54</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr PIKE</name>
    <name.id>300120</name.id>
    <electorate>Bowman</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Prime Minister. Labor's housing policies are failing. Under Labor's $10 billion Housing Australia Future Fund, just 567 of the promised 40,000 social or affordable homes have been completed, and now it is being audited by the national auditor. The chair of Housing Australia has resigned after bullying allegations, and the government fell short of its construction targeted by 66,000 homes last year. Does the Prime Minister accept that his government is building fewer homes and has made housing affordability worse?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:54</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
    <electorate>Grayndler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for his question. I'm not sure if the member was here during the debacle that was the rolling door of governments between 2013 and 2022. If he was, he would know that there weren't questions asked for most of that time of the housing minister. If he was here, it wouldn't have been possible for him to ask a question of the housing minister for most of that time, because they didn't even have one. The member has the hide to ask—</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Buchholz</name>
    <name.id>230531</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>We didn't have a problem.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The member opposite says that we didn't have a problem in housing during that period. With that one quote, this member exposes the fraud that is their attitude towards housing.</para>
</continue>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The Prime Minister was responding to an interjection, so it's going to be very difficult to take a point of order, Member for Bowman. I'll just remind you that you only get one point of order, and we're only a short way into the question. Yes, you can take it.</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Pike</name>
    <name.id>300120</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>We're halfway through, but the point of order is on relevance. I did ask the Prime Minister about his—</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>No, resume your seat. You can't just take points of order because you don't like the answer. I've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11—11 examples from 2008 to 2015, under Speakers Bishop and Smith, of people who just didn't take points of order. I can go through all of them. I don't want to go down that path. People were removed just for standing up to take points of order. We're not going down that path either. I just make the point. I want to get on top of this.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The interjection from the member for Wright exposes precisely why there is an issue with housing that we inherited. He says that they didn't have a minister because there wasn't an issue with housing in Australia up to 2022. He suggests that, before the change of government, there were no issues with housing.</para>
<para>The question that's asked by the member, speaking about the number of houses that have been completed under the HAFF—they held up the HAFF for month after month after month after month.</para>
</continue>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>And then they go, 'Why aren't the houses built?' You have got to be kidding me!</para>
</continue>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The member for Cowper is warned.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ALBANESE</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>We have completed, under our government, 5,000 social and affordable homes across the board; under the former government, there were 373 in the entire time that they were in office—in nine years. Today, building approvals rose 12 per cent in the month of September to be 15.3 per cent higher in through-the-year terms. We are delivering, whether it be social homes or whether it be supporting the build-to-rent scheme, which they opposed as well. And the member for Wright's interjections we will remind him of day after day, week after week and month after month.</para>
</continue>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Biosecurity</title>
          <page.no>84</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:58</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms TRISH COOK</name>
    <name.id>312871</name.id>
    <electorate>Bullwinkel</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is for the Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry. How is the Albanese Labor government working with experts to strengthen Australia's preparedness and response capability to pests and diseases, and why is this so important for our farmers and our regions?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>14:59</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms COLLINS</name>
    <name.id>HWM</name.id>
    <electorate>Franklin</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I do want to thank our terrific member for Bullwinkel, a new seat created in this place. She's a terrific representative, and I know that she's out there engaging with her farmers all the time, so I want to thank her for that. Of course, she, like the Albanese Labor government, does take our biosecurity system very seriously. That's why we have been investing and we've committed over $2 billion since we've come into office to strengthen our biosecurity system, which, of course, is the first line of protection for Australia's people, our animals and our ecosystems.</para>
<para>Today is One Health Day, and One Health is the way that we are managing our biosecurity risks. Right across government, we are working together. That is why, as I've said, we've been making that critical investment that I've been talking about. We know that that funding is critical to protecting our $100 billion agriculture, fisheries and forestry sector—our forest industries, our environment, our economy and importantly, as the member for Bullwinkel will know, our regional jobs that rely on agriculture, fisheries and forestry right across the country.</para>
<para>While Australia remains one of the few countries free from the world's most invasive pests and diseases, our work on the prevention, detection, eradication and management of the threats that we face never stops. I regret to say that, just over a week ago, Australian scientists observed signs consistent with bird flu in wildlife during a management voyage to the subantarctic island Heard Island. This is 4,000 kilometres south-west of Perth and about 1,700 kilometres north of the Antarctic, and it's about 450 kilometres away from some of the subantarctic French islands where bird flu has been confirmed. I want to be clear that this is a suspected case of bird flu. It is not a confirmed case of H5 HPAI bird flu, but of course it does reinforce the need for us to remain focused on preparing for an outbreak on mainland Australia. I want to advise the House that samples have been safely collected and securely packaged and will be tested when the RSV <inline font-style="italic">Nuyina</inline> returns to Australia later this month. It was detected, I'm very sad to say, in an unusual level of deaths of baby elephant seals on this Antarctic island.</para>
<para>This is very concerning indeed, and that's why we are investing $100 million to boost our preparedness across the country and adopting the One Health approach, as I've said, to protect our people, animals and ecosystems. We've also provided funding to the states and territories for critical equipment to make sure that we're ready for rapid mobilisation if there are outbreaks, including mobile laboratories, drones and emergency animal disease response trailers, because we all know that protecting this country is really important. We've also seen the impacts of the bird flu globally. It's costing billions of dollars in other countries, particularly when it does damage to poultry and impacts dairy herds, along with the impacts to human health, so it's important we get this right.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Climate Change</title>
          <page.no>85</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>15:02</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr WILKIE</name>
    <name.id>C2T</name.id>
    <electorate>Clark</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Prime Minister. Recently, the International Court of Justice found that states have a binding international obligation to assess and limit emissions, including scope 3 emissions, to avert significant climate harm. Scope 3 includes captive carbon in exported coal and gas. If the government won't include a climate trigger in environment laws or include scope 3 emissions in the safeguards mechanism, what steps will you take to ensure Australia's compliance with the ICJ ruling?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>15:02</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BOWEN</name>
    <name.id>DZS</name.id>
    <electorate>McMahon</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the honourable member for his question. I note that the government supported the reference of the ICJ case that was commenced by Vanuatu. I also note that we considered the Climate Change Authority's advice on our recent nationally determined contribution. The Climate Change Authority, indeed, considered the ICJ decision in weighing up their advice to the government under our world's-best-practice climate change target-setting regime. Their advice to us was to set the maximum possible level of ambition, which is advice that, of course, the government accepted.</para>
<para>What the honourable member is doing is raising other issues around scope 3 international emissions in other countries, which he's entitled to do, but I'd make this point: our obligation is to reduce our own emissions and work with other countries to help them reduce their emissions, not to come at it in some other way. That's why we embark on the policies we do.</para>
<para>But I do agree with the honourable gentleman in this regard: a massive opportunity we have, if we seize the economic opportunities of net zero, is to help other countries decarbonise through a future made in Australia. Whether it be through green metals, ammonium or green hydrogen, these are the opportunities. Treasury has modelled this and found that the emissions reduction possible internationally, using Australian know-how and Australian resources, is equivalent to 1.2 per cent of world emissions, which is a big number: around 460 million tonnes. So this is a great opportunity for our country if we seize those opportunities—if we seize them. If we ignore them, those opportunities to create jobs and wealth as we help the rest of the world decarbonise will be missed forever.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Vocational Education and Training</title>
          <page.no>85</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>15:04</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms MILLER-FROST</name>
    <name.id>296272</name.id>
    <electorate>Boothby</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My question is to the Minister for Skills and Training. How is the Albanese Labor government breaking down barriers so Australians can get the skills they want in the jobs that we need? What has been the response?</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>15:05</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr GILES</name>
    <name.id>243609</name.id>
    <electorate>Scullin</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I want to thank my friend the member for Boothby for her question and, more particularly, for the work that she's doing in the community she represents so well in Adelaide. She has spent her career backing people in, and she brings that here with enthusiasm.</para>
<para>While those opposite are divided—now more than ever if what I keep reading in the <inline font-style="italic">Financial Review</inline> is to be believed—this Albanese government is getting on with it and breaking down the barriers that have been holding Australians back. It's 12 months to the day since Labor announced we would cut student debt by 20 per cent and six months to the day since Australians backed us in at the May election, because there are three million Australians who have a student debt, including over 280,000 who have VET student loans or Australian apprenticeship support loan accounts. On the average VET loan, this is a saving of more than $2,000. This is real cost-of-living relief, right now.</para>
<para>While it's easy to focus on these numbers, because they are important, behind them are stories of Australians who are just trying to get ahead and make a contribution. I think about students like Jennifer from CIT, who I met with the Prime Minister here. She'll have $8,000 slashed from her debt. She says to me that it's a huge weight off her shoulders and now she can focus on finishing off her studies. And then there's Ralph, who's studying for a Diploma of Nursing. He'll save $3,000, thanks to this Albanese Labor government.</para>
<para>And, of course, we haven't stopped here. We've reduced the amount that Australians with a student debt have to pay every year and raised the threshold when people need to start repaying. We've also made free TAFE into law, following 685,000 enrolments and more than 190,000 completions. These are measures delivering cost-of-living support now, while helping Australians secure the future.</para>
<para>Something these three measures have in common is that they were all opposed by members on the other side of the House. It could be the last time that they will be on a unity ticket. The only thing members opposite can agree on is what they will oppose, not what they will do for Australians, while, on this side of the House, we're easing cost-of-living pressures for students to gain skills they want, for jobs we need now and into the future, building their careers while building the homes Australians need, and enabling our clean energy aspirations, because all of us in the Albanese government back Australians to get skills they want in the jobs they need. So, while the Liberals and the Nationals are obsessed with their internal arguments over net zero, they've got 'net zero' to say when it comes to skilling Australians for the jobs of the future. They are arguing amongst themselves while we are focusing on the Australian people. We'll get on with delivering for people, while they will continue to be consumed by denial, division and dysfunction.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Albanese</name>
    <name.id>R36</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I ask that further questions be placed on the <inline font-style="italic">Notice Paper</inline>.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>DOCUMENTS</title>
        <page.no>86</page.no>
        <type>DOCUMENTS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Presentation</title>
          <page.no>86</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>15:08</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BURKE</name>
    <name.id>DYW</name.id>
    <electorate>Watson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Documents are tabled in accordance with the list circulated to honourable members earlier today. Full details of the documents will be recorded in the <inline font-style="italic">Votes and Proceedings</inline>.</para>
</speech>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>15:09</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CLUTTERHAM</name>
    <name.id>316101</name.id>
    <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The tell-us-once improvements to regulatory settings proposed by schedule 1 of the Regulatory Reform Omnibus Bill 2025 will do a number of things. They will improve the payment of Medicare benefits, because the Medicare program will be able to access payment details from Centrelink for customers who receive services under both programs. They will also make it easier for Australians to use digital solutions to reliably prove their citizenship status, thereby making it easier to access the services. They will improve the use of healthcare identifiers to support better healthcare service delivery, and improve the legislative arrangements for sharing protective information internally within Services Australia to deliver a more seamless experience for customers. They will also clarify the ability of Services Australia to more easily transfer recipients to a new social security payment or concession card when they have been already assessed against identical qualification or payability criteria for their existing payment or card, and they will simplify processes for reissuing non-income-tested seniors health cards to Australians who have lost and subsequently regained eligibility due to the portability requirements or being in receipt of a means tested social security payment. The tell-us-once approach will improve efficiency, reduce frustration for Australians and result in a more seamless provision of assistance to Australians by Services Australia.</para>
<para>Then we have schedule 2 of the bill, which is directed at improving access to government services, subsequently maintaining that access in connection with healthcare services. For example, if patients need multiple diagnostic imaging services, their primary health provider can use one form to make multiple requests. However, if the services are not accessed within seven days, the patient must return to their health provider for a new request. This is a very short timeframe that does not take into account the reality of balancing family, work, life with medical appointments. This bill doubles the access period from seven to 14 days, which will immediately provide easier access to health services for Australians, and will mean that they don't need to return to their primary health provider to have the same referral completed again.</para>
<para>Schedule 3 of the bill is all about reduced regulation for businesses and individual Australians. Regulation is, of course, important in that it establishes rules and standards that set a minimum level of quality and prevent a race to the bottom in critical industries. Regulation is also necessary to manage risks and to embrace opportunities by driving social and environmental change. Protecting the public interest is another key motivator of official regulation, again in critical areas like health care and workplace safety, because safety, fairness and accountability for workers are key drivers of regulation. Equally, regulation provides certainty to businesses, allowing them to plan for what is next and understand what is expected of them in how they pursue their economic agenda.</para>
<para>Staying with business, regulation also plays a role in ensuring fair competition by creating a level playing field and by establishing rules and safeguards for market behaviour, which not only benefits business but also benefits consumers. The setting of rules, incentives and penalties and then the monitoring of performance and compliance against the rules is important for fairness, quality and transparency, and is successful when balanced with the benefits that come with allowing businesses to operate freely. In this sense, overregulation or inefficient regulation causes business paralysis and can act as a disincentive.</para>
<para>Schedule 3 of this bill is a first step in the government's agenda to reform regulation to ensure that it enhances productivity and does not paralyse business. The small but significant improvements introduced by schedule 3 include: amending private health insurance legislation to remove the possibility of insurers breaching the law on a rounding technicality; allowing petroleum and environmental regulators to share information to avoid needing to collect information from industry more than once and supporting better coordination across those petroleum regulators.</para>
<para>Finally, schedule 4 is directed at amendments to increase government efficiency and improve productivity by eliminating bureaucratic tasks that do not achieve outcomes that are proportionate to the time and resource investment.</para>
<para>As well as repealing redundant legislation that is no longer fit for purpose, the amendments in Schedule 4 include: allowing the Australian Communications and Media Authority to more efficiently delegate ordinary administrative functions; allowing the Department of Defence to more efficiently delegate powers and decisions relating to the Woomera Prohibited Area; and updating outdated legislation, which will ensure that NBN mapping data remains publicly available.</para>
<para>They include updating legislation to facilitate information-gathering to enable the Commonwealth to monitor and regulate fuel security. Information about fuel-related products, critical to Australia's trucking industry, fuel markets and fuel stocks, will be able to be collected by the Commonwealth where there is a risk of potential shortage of critical fuels.</para>
<para>The amendments also include updating legislation to recognise the needs of Australia's renewable energy transition by making it easier to buy smarter appliances that use electricity when it is cheapest, like hot water systems that heat water for the evening shower while the sun is still shining, and, finally, providing more consistency across social security legislation to streamline government processes.</para>
<para>So, following on from the economic roundtable, this bill is intended to be the first of a series of regulatory reform bills that will improve productivity across government and across the economy. Better regulation is at the heart of this bill. More efficient regulation is at the heart of this bill, because we know we need regulation that meets the opportunities and challenges of a global economy, which is constantly moving and changing. I commend the bill to the House.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>15:16</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr SOON</name>
    <name.id>298618</name.id>
    <electorate>Banks</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to speak in support of the Regulatory Reform Omnibus Bill 2025. This legislation is the latest example of a tangible set of reforms to come out of the Economic Reform Roundtable hosted by the Treasurer earlier this year.</para>
<para>This bill follows the previous announcement that we'll be moving forward with implementation of hundreds of ideas from the roundtable, including those put forward by various regulators, and the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission's announcement that it would partner with the New South Wales state government to crack down on illegal bid-rigging practices in government procurement processes.</para>
<para>Those who paid attention to the Economic Reform Roundtable would remember that it identified fit-for-purpose regulatory settings as a key enabler for unlocking Australia's economic potential, as has the Productivity Commission. This bill is a key step in the continuous improvement of Australia's regulatory environment to achieve these outcomes, getting the balance right between important protections and opening the door for continued economic growth.</para>
<para>Altogether, this legislation contains 60 measures, which amend 28 existing acts, repeal two acts, and will affect the operation of 13 different government Commonwealth agencies. I want to spend my time today looking at the legislation, some of its stand-out provisions, and ones that I think will make real difference in our communities.</para>
<para>This bill delivers its reforms in line with four key themes. The first is supporting the implementation of a tell-us-once approach within Services Australia, which aims to reduce the number of times Australians are asked to provide the same information across its various programs. This is something that I personally was very pleased to see. In my first speech to the House a few months ago, I spoke about how I wanted to help create an environment where government was more accessible to the people it serves. Perhaps the most common source of frustration that I hear from my constituents, from my electorate, about Services Australia and Centrelink is being asked to provide documentation they have handed over previously and that each time they're required to repeat their story or situation, again and again. A tell-us-once approach does what the tin says: it aims to support sharing and use of information provided to government agencies to reduce instances of Australians being asked to repeat and provide the same information. Currently, the existing legislation includes an unnecessarily narrow information-sharing provision which fails to facilitate government agencies sharing information they already have. It is clearly out of date. This bill goes some way to fixing this bottleneck by giving the administrators of various programs within Services Australia more leeway.</para>
<para>Australians should never have to feel like they are battling their own government, especially not when trying to access the important services they need and are entitled to, such as pensions, childcare subsidies and Medicare benefits. With the passage of this legislation, Australians will not have to contact Services Australia multiple times for something as simple as updating their address with each program they rely on. Additionally, there are currently more than $270 million of Medicare benefits that are rightfully owed to Australians but that are not yet able to be disbursed. This legislation will allow Medicare to access payment destination details from Centrelink where an individual is a customer of both programs, ensuring Australians get everything from the government that they are owed, delivering a real and immediate benefit for Australians.</para>
<para>Another area the bill looks to improve is maintaining access to government services. Many Australians rely on government services to support their access to health care. Medicare is the envy of the world, and we should be incredibly proud of it, as Australians are. However, there are opportunities for government to improve the way it functions. As I said in my first speech, having high expectations of your government is a good thing. This legislation before the House improves on the current regulatory settings around key healthcare services and a form of the additional childcare subsidy, making them more efficient and reducing the burden on Australian patients.</para>
<para>For example, when a patient needs multiple diagnostic imaging services, their doctor can use one form to make several requests. However, currently, all the services requested must be accessed within seven days. The current regulation fails to give leeway for the reality that sometimes services can be delayed for reasons beyond the patient's control. This legislation changes that, doubling the access period from seven days to 14. This will immediately make access to health and diagnostics easier for Australians. While this week and just past the government's once-in-a-generation reforms to make GP visits more accessible through more bulk-billing came into effect, no-one wants to return to their GP to get the same referral a second time. Additionally, the bill includes changes that enable better information-sharing between the Commonwealth agencies involved in administering Medicare and addressing gaps in regulations that currently can allow unapproved pharmacies to continue operating in some specific circumstances.</para>
<para>The third key theme is reducing the regulatory burden on Australians and Australian businesses. In my first speech, I also spoke about the need for Australia to find ways to boost its productivity. As a rule, well-balanced regulation provides vital protections to the Australian community while allowing business to succeed and thrive. However, when outdated or needlessly prescriptive regulations exist, they drive up the cost for Australians and the Australian businesses that have to navigate them. This omnibus bill updates some provisions that have been left unchanged for too long, as well as enabling better information-sharing between regulators to reduce the burden on business.</para>
<para>As an example, under the current law, a marriage celebrant must verify the identity of the parties to a marriage. Fair enough—that seems like an important thing to check! However, the regulations have not been updated for some time, meaning celebrants must cite physical copies of identity documents. To ease the burden on celebrants while not compromising on the level of due diligence that must be undertaken for such an important process, celebrants will now be allowed to use digital identity solutions as well to overcome some of the limitations of physical copies.</para>
<para>Another notable change in the third schedule of the bill is the one allowing petroleum and environmental regulators to share information, to avoid needing to collect information from industry more than once, in the same style as the 'tell me once' system for public services. These changes will support better coordination across regulators, especially by ensuring that the roadblock often presented to regulators in the private sector can be bypassed.</para>
<para>Finally, the bill makes amendments to increase the efficiency of government and in turn improve productivity across our economy. In the same way that updated regulations can increase the costs to Australian businesses and consumers, outdated regulations in the public sector create the need for Commonwealth departments and agencies to devote time to bureaucratic work with little return on investment. This bill makes a number of regulatory changes that cut down on the number of junk tasks required of public servants and improve transparency and public oversight for certain government works.</para>
<para>For example, the bill amends legislation related to the National Broadband Network, which currently references Geoscience Australia's NationalMap. That NationalMap was actually decommissioned at the end of June this year. The current legislation both demands that it be a basis for certain public data and limits alternatives. Sensibly, this bill replaces that provision with a more generic one to ensure that the public continues to enjoy an NBN that is transparent and visible as it continues to be rolled out and upgraded for the best outcomes for all Australians.</para>
<para>Additionally, the legislation makes amendments to the regulation of critical fields to enable more targeted responses to shortages. It also provides more consistency across legislation to deliver a more streamlined approach, ensuring that the importance of our renewable energy transition is recognised, and repeals some redundant legislation that is no longer relevant or fit for purpose.</para>
<para>Overall, this suite of measures will improve how information is shared within government, improve how the government responds to certain shortages, improve the standard of interactions the Australian people have with government and improve the efficiency of public sector operations. While these reforms will not attract the same attention as some other bills that go before this House, they are an important part of building a stronger economy for all Australians.</para>
<para>I was fortunate enough to speak in the House just last week, during private members' business, about the economic reforms delivered by successive Labor governments, from Hawke and Keating modernising our economy and opening it up to the world to Rudd and Swan steering Australia through the global financial crisis while avoiding the deep recessions that plagued the world. This government's agenda continues in the Labor Party's enviable tradition of delivering an economy that works for all Australians, and the results speak for themselves. When Labor came to government, the warning signs were everywhere. Inflation was rising out of control, more than double the top of the RBA's target band, showing no real signs of slowing and taking interest rates with it. As a result, real wages were falling and Australians felt the pinch on their living standards. But this government, the Albanese Labor government, has turned around these failures. Inflation is now half the level it was at in May 2022, and this has enabled the RBA to make some rate cuts, making it cheaper for Australians all around the country to pay their mortgages. We've seen seven straight quarters of real wage growth and the lowest average unemployment of any government in 50 years, and 1.1 million jobs have been created. This is nothing short of remarkable, and it demonstrates clearly what happens when the government has the interests of working people at the core of its mission.</para>
<para>The coalition love to claim that they are the parties of competence when it comes to the budget, but history, including recent history, tells a very different story. In the first three years after Labor came to government, we delivered the biggest nominal improvement in the budget in a parliamentary term. The budget is more than $200 billion stronger than what was inherited from those opposite. We found more than $100 billion in savings for the budget, where the coalition could not find one single cent in their last budget. While the closest the Liberals got to being back in the black was getting mugs printed, Labor actually delivered it—not once but twice.</para>
<para>The significant improvement in the budget position means that we've been able to pay back some of the debt that was inherited when we came to government. Gross debt is $188 billion lower, saving us more than $60 billion in interest costs over the next decade. But, most importantly, our sensible approach to the economy and the budget is enabling us to do what matters most to the Australian people—more tax cuts for all 14 million taxpayers, a 20 per cent cut to HECS balances for every Australian with student debt, the biggest ever boost to Medicare to deliver 18 million more bulk-billed GP visits across the country.</para>
<para>In conclusion, this government, the Albanese government, is getting on with the job of creating an economy that works for the Australian people. And, like any good government, we are regularly reviewing regulatory settings to identify areas where we can improve and open doors for economic activity and ways to boost productivity. This bill may be the first of its kind in this term of parliament, but it will not be the last as we seek to improve the productivity of both the government and the Australian economy as a whole. I am so pleased to be able to speak to this bill. I commend the government's economic team for their work on this legislation and I commend the bill to this House.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>15:31</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr HOLZBERGER</name>
    <name.id>88411</name.id>
    <electorate>Forde</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise in support of the Regulatory Reform Omnibus Bill 2025. In preparation for this, I have said that title a number of times out loud and in my head, and I stumble over the word 'regulatory'. It's difficult enough to say the word, let alone complete the task. When you're a businessperson or an individual dealing with government bureaucracy, regulation is confounding, it is constraining, it is a break on productivity, and it is very annoying, to say the least, on a personal level.</para>
<para>I'm reminded of the story I came across years ago of the young kid watching their grandmother cook a leg of lamb in a saucepan. He observed that the grandmother would chop off the end of the leg of lamb, put it in the saucepan and then cook it. It would be, of course, delicious, as all of those meals were. Years later his grandmother came to visit his house. She observed him cutting off the end of the leg of lamb, sticking it in the saucepan and then cooking it. She said, 'Why did you bother cutting off the end of the leg of lamb?' The grandson said, 'Well, that's what you used to do.' She said: 'Yes, but the only reason I used to do it was so that it would fit in the pan. You've got a bigger pan. You don't need to cut it off.' So often, regulation is just like that. It is about doing something which, at some time in the past, made sense but doesn't make sense anymore. And it is about looking at things which have become almost tradition but, really, when taking a second look, have become entirely superfluous.</para>
<para>It is something that I came across when I was in small business for myself. I used to run a small contract-mustering business in western New South Wales, where I learned that idea about personal responsibility and creating something out of nothing. Entrepreneurialism really is that—it's about taking what you have and forging ahead to create value for yourself and for the people in your life. I then took the lessons that I learned there, when we moved down to the coast, and I ran a construction company in Beenleigh. The same spirit of entrepreneurialism and creation is something which almost all entrepreneurs are seized by, but the most frustrating thing is dealing with unnecessary government regulation. As we go into the future, I think it is something that becomes more important to look at—that the regulations that are in place actually have some purpose and that they are about helping businesses and individuals rather than constraining them. Particularly as our economies move into the future, there is a need for us to move quickly as individuals, as businesses and as a country. That's why I commend this government for the work that it has done over the years but, more particularly, for the work that it did around the economic roundtable.</para>
<para>We were lucky enough in Forde to host our own economic roundtable, thanks to Anne Nalder from the Small Business Association, and I heard time and again that people were frustrated by government regulation. It is something which held them back in their businesses, held them back from employing people and held them back from providing a service to their customers. We were able to take some of those local examples and feed them into the national economic roundtable.</para>
<para>Let's just step back and reflect for a moment. Paul Keating often spoke about the moral purpose of economic reform. He argued that policy is not just about efficiency but about fairness, dignity and opportunity. This bill carries that same vision. It recognises that government is a servant and not a master; regulations are tools and not obstacles; and the goal is a system that protects, empowers and enables. Paul Keating might have also said that trying to navigate government services is like trying to do a crossword puzzle with half the clues missing while riding a roller-coaster. Now, thanks to these reforms, Australians can solve that puzzle and keep both feet on the ground.</para>
<para>Of course, it's not just businesses that are going to be advantaged by this bill but people too. We all have frustration dealing with government departments or, indeed, with private bureaucracies; everyone these days seems to want us to get onto a web portal and do their paperwork for them. This bill does deal with some of the personal problems, the individual problems, that people face when dealing with a government department. Think about somebody called Robert living in Logan. He relies on Medicare and Centrelink to manage his family's health and financial needs, and for months he has been owed Medicare benefits. In fact, something like $270 million in total is owed to nearly a million Australians who are in his situation. The problem is simple: his Centrelink bank details are up to date, but Medicare doesn't have the same information. Today, under the current system, he could wait weeks, even months, to get these funds—if he knew he was owed anything at all. With the changes in this bill, the so-called 'tell us once' approach will allow information shared with one agency to be available to others, meaning that he can get the money he's owed without repeated phone calls, multiple forms or frustration.</para>
<para>But, of course, he is not alone. Linda, a resident at the northern end of the Gold Coast, fled domestic violence. She has had to update her details with multiple government agencies: her new address, her child's name and her bank account. Today, every form she fills out is a chance for delay or an error—a potential stressor, when she should be focused on safety and rebuilding her life. This bill allows for her details to be updated once and shared securely across relevant government programs. In practical terms, it means that she spends less time repeating herself and more time supporting her child.</para>
<para>Take the healthcare provisions in this bill. The time frame for accessing multiple diagnostic imaging services has doubled, from seven to 14 days. Think about Simone, another young woman living on the northern Gold Coast, referred by her GP for both an X-ray and a CT scan. Under the old system, if she missed one appointment she had to go back for another referral. That wasted time, travel and stress is now gone, with this bill's changes. She can complete that imaging without unnecessary repetition, allowing her to focus on her recovery rather than on paperwork. For people in outer suburbs, where GP visits can take quite some time, this is not a small improvement; it is a transformative improvement.</para>
<para>One of the most important reforms is the 'tell us once' system. Currently you have to tell multiple government agencies the same information. It's like being stuck in a loop with your own life story, over and over again.</para>
<para>There are real examples of benefits available through this bill, such as healthcare identifiers. Digital sharing improves care and outcomes. For seniors, cards can be reissued automatically after overseas travel. Regarding childcare subsidies, simplified language encourages vulnerable families to apply. On fuel and energy security, companies can respond more flexibly to disruptions. These aren't abstract numbers; they're real and tangible improvements in people's lives.</para>
<para>This bill reduces unnecessary burdens across government. For example, marriage celebrants can now use secure digital documents instead of chasing paper. It means fewer trips to offices, less stress and, frankly, fewer opportunities to lose your sanity. Agencies can share information more effectively in projects like offshore gas development, which streamlines processes and reduces costs. So, for families and businesses in outer suburbs, this is a real win—less paperwork and more time for work and family or, if you're lucky, a chance to just have a cup of coffee without feeling guilty.</para>
<para>This takes a whole-of-government approach. It isn't piecemeal tinkering. It amends 28 acts and repeals two, and it affects 13 agencies. Government is a complicated machine. You can't oil just one cog and expect the engine to purr. This is orchestration, not patchwork. By coordinating reforms across departments, this bill ensures consistency, efficiency and coherence. It's a recognition that change works only when the system changes together, like a well rehearsed band. Everyone needs to play in tune.</para>
<para>This bill boosts productivity. Less regulatory friction means businesses can invest and operate efficiently and families can spend more time doing what matters. For Logan, for the northern Gold Coast and for outer suburban and regional areas, small and medium businesses drive local employment. This bill will help them grow without losing the protections that keep employees and consumers safe.</para>
<para>So today is not just another day of legislation. Today is a step forward in how our government serves the people and the small businesses of this nation. especially those in the outer suburban communities, like Logan on the northern Gold Coast. This bill is about making government work for Australians rather than Australians working for government. When we talk about regulation we really need to ask: Is this fit for purpose? Is this fit for the modern time? Why do these rules exist? What should they achieve? Yet we know that, if a law or rule exists for its own sake or because it has always existed, it loses its meaning, like cutting off the end of a leg of lamb. Entrepreneurialism is the way of the future.</para>
<para>Deputy Speaker Chesters, your advice the other day about ringing up Medicare clinics in our area was something that I took very much took to heart. It was about not waiting for the bureaucracy to tell us when the local GP clinics had taken up the government's bulk-billing incentive. It was about getting out there and doing it yourself. It was about getting out there and using your own skills to create something of real value. I now have a list of GPs in our area which have taken up the incentive. The number of GP practices in our area that are bulk-billing has in fact doubled, by the way, and we now have that list and are able to give it to people in our community. It is something that has created value for them. It is something that we have done outside of the bureaucracy.</para>
<para>The bureaucracy will get there in the end. I'm sure they'll do a more accurate and thorough job than we have, but taking that spirit of entrepreneurialism—which you did lead, Deputy Speaker—is something that I think is an example of the future of Australia. It is the future of work as we become less dependent on the old ways and less dependent on the recipes that we got from our grandparents, as successful and timely as they were. It is a recognition that people are now going to have the opportunity to create their own future, and the less regulation that gets in the way, the better. This is only the start, so to anybody who thinks of opposing this bill: don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. This is about continuous process. This is the first in a series of regulatory reform bills that will improve productivity across government and the economy. I commend the bill to the House.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>15:46</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms STANLEY</name>
    <name.id>265990</name.id>
    <electorate>Werriwa</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>In August this year, the Treasurer hosted the Economic Reform Roundtable. Those three days brought together a mixture of leaders from business, unions, civil society, governments and other experts. The roundtable discussed three main themes: making our economy more productive, building resilience in the face of global uncertainty, and strengthening the budget and making it more sustainable. The roundtable will be integral to Australia's ongoing economic success and prosperity. One of the clear messages from both the roundtable and the Productivity Commission was the need for fit-for-purpose regulation. In recognition of that, and in the spirit of the first stated theme of the roundtable, I'm delighted to see this matter come before the House for debate as a tangible outcome of the roundtable.</para>
<para>Excessive regulation, red tape and duplicative processes not only frustrate the lives of millions of Australians but drive up the cost of doing business. Who hasn't been given a wrong or outdated form? Who has not had to produce the same identification document again and again? Who has not had a document either not be uploaded or be lost? These are everyday occurrences, and they not only frustrate us personally but cost countless hours and add inextricably to inefficiency and cost. The Regulatory Reform Omnibus Bill takes a whole-of-government approach to amending regulation to ensure it remains contemporary and relevant. For Australians, it means making sure Australians can connect faster and more efficiently with the services they need and rely on.</para>
<para>The bill contains 60 measures which amend 28 acts, repeal two acts and affect the operation of 13 Commonwealth agencies. Importantly, and probably most significantly for Australians, the bill supports the implementation of a tell-us-once approach within Services Australia, thereby reducing the number of times it would be required for you to provide the same information again and again across different government programs or platforms. It is an understatement that this aspect of the bill on its own will be warmly welcomed and applauded. The days of having to supply the same document again and again like this will not continue to happen.</para>
<para>The bill will enable the use of data and digital technologies to improve access to government services. It also provides new powers to make delegated legislation. Schedule 1 of the bill removes barriers to provide digital evidence of Australian citizenship, making the process reliable and less costly and providing further security. Schedule 1 part 2 deals with healthcare identifiers who have access to these systems. The amendment allows healthcare recipients to facilitate the tracking of longitudinal data, providing more accurate evidence to support policy and design. Currently there's no standardised approach to sharing health information across Australia, and this bill supports work to address these issues. More importantly, the bill will allow updates made to Centrelink when an account number changes to be recognised by other agencies like Medicare. Currently, 980,000 Australians are owed money in unpaid Medicare benefits. That's $270 million that would be much better off in Australians' pockets.</para>
<para>With your indulgence, Deputy Speaker Chesters, I would like to speak to my constituents. Have you looked at your myGov and made sure your information is up to date? It is important that Medicare benefits are in your pocket; it's your money. Take some time out in the next couple of days to update your details if necessary. As soon as your details are updated, any outstanding benefits will get into your account.</para>
<para>This bill also removes stigmatising language to ensure that all vulnerable children and their families can apply for the additional childcare subsidy. Schedule 2 doubles the timeframe for patients needing to complete multiple diagnostic imaging services without having to return to their GP for a new referral, saving both time and money for the government, GP and patients. Schedule 2 authorises appropriate sharing between Services Australia and the Department of Health, Ageing and Disability to assist in supporting the proper functioning of processes within them.</para>
<para>Schedule 4 makes amendments to the Australian Communications and Media Authority to allow appropriate delegations to ACMA members. Some part of this schedule repeals redundant legislation and requirements. Schedule 4 improves fuel security, ensuring government knows what stockpiles are available for transport and other industries in Australia. The bill will also modernise greenhouse and energy minimum standards to support the contemporary energy systems and Australia in its transition.</para>
<para>Schedule 4 will look at ensuring consistency across social security benefit calculations as it affects a number of social security and veterans' affairs benefits. The bill also touches Services Australia, the Seniors Health Card and childcare subsidies, and strengthens the pharmacy approval process. Finally, the bill before us will improve access to government services, reduce the regulatory burden on both industry and Australians, and increase efficiency and productivity.</para>
<para>Australia stands tall as an economic success story. The success, however, has not been accidental or by luck; it is the result of careful management and policy direction by this government. Our government will continue to review the regulatory settings to identify any areas of improvement. The bill is intended to be just the first of a series of regulatory reform bills to improve productivity across government and then across the economy. I commend the bill to the House.</para>
<para>Debate adjourned.</para>
<para>Ordered that the resumption of the debate be made an order of the day for a later hour.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>15:54</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr McCORMACK</name>
    <name.id>219646</name.id>
    <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
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  <para>The Competition and Consumer Amendment (Australian Energy Regulator Separation) Bill 2025 is intended to separate the Australian Energy Regulator from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. This will enable the AER to be an independent body with its own board under the Public Governance, Performance and Accountability Act 2013. The AER has been around since July 2005. By the year after that, all 13 bodies previously responsible for energy regulation had transferred responsibility to the AER. We know that decisions made by the regulator are subject to appeal, as you would expect.</para>
<para>Many years ago the energy grid was the responsibility of the states. Certainly states looked after power. These days, of course, more and more onus is placed on the Commonwealth, whether it's to run power or whether it's to fund state schools. I appreciate that the states still make up the bulk of the funding for this, as they should, but there is more and more pressure on the Commonwealth—on taxpayers—to foot the bill for things which used to be solely the remit of the states. It happens in health, too, and certainly both sides of this parliament have overseen a transition whereby the Commonwealth is picking up the tab for what was once very much the remit of the states.</para>
<para>The AER is part of the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. It enforces the rules established by the Australian Energy Market Commission. The ACCC, for all of the complaints it sometimes receives, does a good job, I believe, and I say that having been a minister with oversight responsibility for the commission. The ACCC has done some very good work over the years. Of course there's always more that it could do in all areas of endeavour, not the least of which is market deregulation, with the monopoly of the supermarkets, and even irrigation and water. We need to ensure that the ACCC, through a regulatory and legislative process, has the teeth to do the work that it does for and on behalf of the nation and for and on behalf of consumers.</para>
<para>The AER's present functions are focused on regulating the natural-monopoly transmission and distribution sectors of the national electricity market. It very much overseas monitoring the wholesale electricity market, enforcing electricity market rules. It's a difficult area. The AER's regulatory functions and powers are conferred upon it by the National Electricity Law and the National Electricity Rules, which govern all of these things.</para>
<para>We've seen quite a debate in recent hours, days, weeks, months, years and decades over energy prices and energy regulation. The default market offer, set by the Australian Energy Regulator, shows that average power bills are up as much as $806 per household. This is having a very harsh effect on ordinary, everyday Australians. I know it's so difficult—for farmers, factories, manufacturing and people just trying to manage household budgets—to pay the energy bills, which just seem to go up and up.</para>
<para>In the bill before the house, the changes being recommended come from several reviews. The Vertigan review of 2015 suggested that the AER should have full control over its management and finances by becoming an independent entity. The Finkel review, two years later, highlighted that the AER's separation from the ACCC had not yet occurred. That particular investigation discussed how information sharing could still be maintained. Then we had, in 2020, the Edwards review, which noted that many in the energy sector supported the AER's independence and better governance of the energy market, so to speak.</para>
<para>As I say, the energy market is a large and complex thing; we only have to look at what is going on in the energy systems at the moment. The government wants us to go renewables only. We have 28,000 kilometres of transmission lines being proposed and being constructed. This is having a huge effect on regional communities. Not that long ago, I went up into the old Tumbarumba shire area—what is now the area of Snowy Valleys Council—to look at the transmission lines being constructed there. I note with some concern that the metal frameworks are not being built with Australian steel. That is a shame, but there is a lot going on in this space.</para>
<para>At present, the AER does not employ its own staff. Instead, employees from the ACCC assist the AER in its functions. The ACCC chair is responsible for managing the staff and ensuring that the duties of the AER are indeed met. The Australian Energy Regulator is already established as a body corporate pursuant to section 44AE of the Competition and Consumer Act, and it's constituted by five members pursuant to section 44AG of that particular act. Section 44AAL currently provides that the ACCC and the AER are a single listed entity for the purposes of the finance law within the meaning of the Public Governance, Performance and Accountability Act. I had some carriage of that when I was the parliamentary secretary to the Minister for Finance at the time, Senator Matthias Cormann. He did an outstanding job in that portfolio. The chair of the ACCC is the accountable authority of that listed entity. Section 27 of the Competition and Consumer Act currently provides that the staff at the ACCC are to be engaged under the Public Service Act 1999, that the ACCC chair and staff together constitute a statutory agency, and that the ACCC chair is the head of the statutory agency. It's a lot to place on the ACCC chair. Whoever is in that job does an outstanding job under a lot of pressure. There are a lot of moving parts in that particular role.</para>
<para>We should be thankful for our Public Service. Our Public Service serves the Australian public in a very diligent and thorough way, and I think we saw that best during the COVID-19 pandemic. What we saw then was public servants working so very hard, not only on the health side of things to ensure that the safety, wellbeing and health of Australians was paramount, first and foremost, but also on the JobKeeper provisions that were put in place by the coalition government at the time. They kept the doors of business open, kept the lights on, kept the bills being paid and kept the economy ticking over. We should be very, very thankful for what our public servants did. There was no finer public servant at the time than Dr Steven Kennedy. I know he's had a number of roles as secretary of various departments. He looked after Infrastructure and he looked after Treasury. The work that he did during the global pandemic saved lives and kept people's businesses from going insolvent—from going bankrupt. I owe him an eternal debt of gratitude for the work that he did. I say that in all earnest honesty. He was outstanding.</para>
<para>On this bill, section 44AAC of the CCA currently provides, as I say, that the ACCC chair does make staff and consultants available to the AER to assist the Australian Energy Regulator to perform its functions. At times, that is required, requested and needed. The combination of these arrangements means that, while the Australian Energy Regulator's regulatory functions are entirely separate, as they should be, from the ACCC, the current accountable authority and the head of the agency is the ACCC chair. They hold statutory accountability for meeting the requirements of the PGPA Act and the Public Service Act. In essence, the buck stops with the ACCC chair—one could say, as it should.</para>
<para>These governance arrangements were considered appropriate when the Australian Energy Regulator was first established, 20 years ago. As to the bill's intention, the AER's statutory functions and powers, and the number of staff required to assist in performing these functions and powers, have materially changed over those two decades, and, as the Public Service changes and modernises, you have to bring these sorts of bills before the parliament to keep up with those changes in the Public Service.</para>
<para>This bill was introduced to parliament last year. It passed the House earlier this year, but it wasn't considered by the Senate prior to the May 2025 election.</para>
<para>In the lead-up to the election, it was our clear view, as a coalition, that the government should be focused on lowering the cost of electricity and not making bureaucratic changes. That was the view we had then. We still believe that the government should and must do more to focus on lowering those power bills and to do whatever the government can do, indeed, to bring energy prices down—not because it's a political debate, not because it's something that we can differ from the government on in this chamber, but because people out there in our electorates right across the nation are demanding, are crying out, are pleading, for energy relief.</para>
<para>I appreciate that the government has brought in some subsidies, and they will say, 'Well, this is designed to help those ordinary, everyday Australians doing it tough and struggling.' But we can't impoverish pensioners. We can't see the likes of Tomago going to the wall.</para>
<para>The Tomago aluminium smelter and plant uses up about 10 or 11 per cent of New South Wales's power, and having it not functioning will indeed lower emissions, and that might meet the Minister for Climate Change and Energy's remit in trying to bring emissions down. But that's not the point, is it?</para>
<para>The point is that we cannot de-industrialise our nation. The point is that we have to give our farmers the reliable, affordable energy to be able to grow the world's best food and fibre. The point is that we have to make sure that Mr and Mrs Average out there can pay their power bills and so can pensioners. Right across the board, it is not right—what we're doing at the moment.</para>
<para>That is why we opposed this particular bill when it was first put on 24 July this year. The member for Wannon, in his capacity as the shadow minister for energy and emissions reduction, as well as the shadow assistant minister for energy and emissions reduction, Senator Dean Smith from Western Australia, were briefed on this bill.</para>
<para>We see the need for it, given the fact that, as I say, the Public Service has modernised. We understand why it is necessary. But, again, I do implore those members opposite: when we are talking about the Australian Energy Regulator, when we're talking about the power grid and when we're talking about servicing the nation with reliable, affordable energy, the government must do more. It has to bring about policies, and use those levers that it can, to help the economy and to help the Australian people that it purports to serve.</para>
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    <time.stamp>16:09</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CLUTTERHAM</name>
    <name.id>316101</name.id>
    <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
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  <para>I rise today to speak in support of the Competition and Consumer Amendment (Australian Energy Regulator Separation) Bill 2025. This is important legislation to separate the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission from the Australian Energy Regulator. While this legislation is technical in nature, for households and businesses in my electorate of Sturt this reform is about something more real: lowering power bills, providing more reliable energy and laying the foundations for a stronger future. This Albanese Labor government is getting on with the job of delivering real energy relief and real reform of the energy market. That's why this legislation matters. It's being conducted in parallel with sustained efforts to transition our economy to renewable energy and bring down power bills for all Australians.</para>
<para>The Australian Energy Regulator has a big job. It regulates energy networks and wholesale and retail markets in Australia to ensure that they are secure, reliable and affordable for consumers. It sets the rules for our electricity and gas markets, making sure companies play fair and consumers get the best deal. But it's been tied to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, an organisation with responsibilities that span the entire economy, and that model has held back the Australian Energy Regulator's independence and focus.</para>
<para>With the needs of consumers at the top of its list of priorities, the Australian Energy Regulator is one of three major market bodies that oversee national electricity and gas markets in Australia: firstly, the Australian Energy Market Commission, which develops the rules by which the markets operate; secondly, the Australian Energy Market Operator, which manages the day-to-day operations of the markets; and then, thirdly, the Australian Energy Regulator, which monitors performance and compliance with the rules.</para>
<para>Since its inception in 2005, the environment in which the Australian Energy Regulator operates has significantly expanded, as has its remit and functions. In the 2005 financial year, the Australian Energy Regulator had 15 employees and an annual program budget of $6½ million. This is significantly less than what the data tells us about the 2024 financial year, which recorded 400 employees and an annual program budget of $95.67 million. Increased responsibility, increased resources and increased budget accountability mean that governance arrangements need to be re-examined to ensure that they are fit for purpose.</para>
<para>The separation of the Australian Energy Regulator from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission addresses these governance issues in two critical ways: firstly, by aligning responsibility for the regulatory functions of the Australian Energy Regulator as the independent energy regulator; and, secondly, by prescribing influential control over the Australian Energy Regulator's employees and funding, which is currently within the sphere of the ACCC. Further, without this legislation, the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission chair would retain technical responsibility for the Australian Energy Regulator's leadership, governance and strategic direction in circumstances where it is in fact the Australian Energy Regulator's independent board that is ultimately accountable for those things. This disconnect between responsibility and accountability does not represent good governance, and good governance in energy market regulation is critical in circumstances where Australia's energy markets are embarking on a significant period of transition.</para>
<para>In terms of the mechanics of the legislation, it will amend the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 to legally separate the AER from the ACCC, enabling the Australian Energy Regulator to have operational control of its own governance arrangements, its own resources and its own staff. In further technical terms, for the purposes of the Public Governance, Performance and Accountability Act 2013, the legislation establishes the Australian Energy Regulator as a non-corporate Commonwealth entity that is separate from the ACCC for the purposes of that act but as a non-corporate Commonwealth entity not legally separate from the government. Importantly, this legislation does not change the role, obligations and function of the Australian Energy Regulator as the independent energy regulator. That is not being changed by this legislation.</para>
<para>Without the passage of this legislation the following issues would remain. Firstly, the Australian Energy Regulator and Australian Competition and Consumer Commission would remain as a single Commonwealth entity under finance law, with the Australian Energy Regulator Board continuing to have the powers required to fulfil its regulatory role but no authoritative control over the resources and people needed to carry out that important regulatory work. Secondly, the dual ministerial responsibility would continue with respect to the activities of the Australian Energy Regulator. Thirdly, the fundamental disconnect between traditional governance of the Australian Energy Regulator employees, led by the Australian Consumer and Competition Commission, and the organisational strategy and direction, led by the board of the AER, would continue, exacerbating the governance risks to both entities and increasing the probability that inefficient and often duplicative governance processes would have to be undertaken to manage that risk.</para>
<para>So this straightforward and minimalist legislation resets that improves the governance environment without altering the primary objectives of the Australian Energy Regulator, which is the monitoring of compliance, with rules applicable to the energy markets, to the benefit of all Australian consumers. With this legislation, we give the Australian Energy Regulator the independence and the authority it needs to meet the challenges of our time. Make no mistake: these challenges are huge. We are in the middle of the most significant transformation of our energy sector since electricity was first switched on in Australia: the transition away from dirty, unreliable, ageing coal to renewable energy. This transition to renewables is not optional; it is essential. It is essential for our planet and for households struggling with rising prices. It is essential for businesses that want certainty to invest. Above all, I say again, it is essential if we are serious about tackling climate change.</para>
<para>In my electorate of Sturt, I've seen how deeply my community care about our future. I recently met with the Electrify Adelaide group. This is a passionate group of local people who are dedicated to advancing climate action by encouraging households to electrify and switch from fossil fuels. They understand that electrification means not only lower emissions but also cheaper, healthier homes.</para>
<para>I've also met with Catherine, Cathy and Andrea in my electorate. They formed Grandmas for Climate Action. These women are motivated by the most profound concern: the future of their children and grandchildren. They are asking, 'What type of planet are we leaving for future generations?' Their voices are powerful reminders that climate change is not an abstract policy debate. It's about the kind of country and the kind of planet that we will hand down to the next generation. It's not based on ideology; it is based on science and data.</para>
<para>I am proud that my home state of South Australia is already leading the world in decarbonising its energy sector. In almost two decades in South Australia we have gone from a total reliance on fossil fuels to a grid where around 80 per cent of our electricity comes from renewable sources, with wind and solar being the primary contributors. In South Australia, we really are leading the way. We are on track to reach 100 per cent net renewable energy by 2027, with billions invested in large-scale renewables and more in the pipeline.</para>
<para>Recently, the 412-megawatt Goyder South wind farm in Burra in South Australia's regions was opened. It's the largest in the state, with 75 turbines boosting wind generation by more than 20 per cent and powering homes and businesses including BHP, which will draw power from the Goyder wind farm. It is forecast to produce roughly 1.5 terawatt hours of renewable energy each year.</para>
<para>And then in South Australia today, as of 4 pm, the Australian Energy Market Operator fuel mix dashboard showed that 13 per cent of our energy was being generated by solar and 82 per cent was being generated by wind. We know that generation costs of wind energy and solar energy are next to zero. We know that the more renewables there are in the system, the less we need to depend on unreliable, dirty, coal fired power. This will provide additional cost relief on energy bills when more renewables come into the grid. Our pathway to 100 per cent net renewable energy by 2027 in South Australia is something that I am proud of. It is an extraordinary achievement that I hope to see replicated across this great country.</para>
<para>South Australia also leads the nation in rooftop solar, and my electorate of Sturt ranks second in the country for the uptake of the Albanese Labor government's Cheaper Home Batteries Program. Last week, we cracked 1,600, so thousands of families in Campbelltown, in Magill, in Glynde, in St Peters and in Rostrevor are generating their own clean energy, driving down their bills and contributing to a more sustainable energy grid, driving down bills for everyone.</para>
<para>And then we have our community battery in Sturt, an initiative that I'll continue to speak about and champion. Based at Tuku Wirra Reserve in Magill, this community battery provides energy to multiple low-income SA Housing Trust tenants in Magill and the surrounding suburbs. This is giving them access to electricity stored in the community battery through South Australia's Virtual Power Plant. The battery stores excess renewable energy from the grid when it is abundant for use at later times when demand and the cost is high. By doing this as part of South Australia's Virtual Power Plant, it delivers renewable energy and the cheapest residential electricity rate in South Australia. It delivers this to families doing it tough—to eligible low-income houses who need power prices to be dropping. Since it came online, the data shows us that it has driven down annual power prices for those families by an average of $562.</para>
<para>The approach of the Albanese Labor government is clear. We believe in cheaper energy bills, we believe in cleaner energy led by renewables and we believe in strong regulation. It is not one or the other; it is all of these things together. The legislation to separate the Australian Energy Regulator from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission is part of that framework. It strengthens independence, it builds public trust and it ensures energy policy is a priority. The people of Sturt and the people of Australia deserve an energy regulator that works for them, for households, for businesses and for a cleaner and more affordable future. I commend the bill to the House.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:23</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr JOYCE</name>
    <name.id>e5d</name.id>
    <electorate>New England</electorate>
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  <para>Obviously, we are on the premise of regulation. There is never a place that needs more regulation and more staff than the absolute swindle which is intermittent power. Every time, it never ceases to amaze me. As we speak, we have the Chinese company BYD, or 'build your dreams'. They get carbon credits when they bring cars into Australia, and even though they've only sold 38,000 they've brought 51,000 in. I wonder why! It's obviously virtue. It's virtue. They say it's because of the expanding market. Well, it's not really expanding. What's expanding is the money they're putting in their bank from the Australian taxpayer. That is what is expanding, and this continues expanding into so many sections. The previous speaker clearly said that they had to increase the staff for all this regulation. I'm not surprised. You need a lot of work when you have a decreasing supply of electricity and increasing demand.</para>
<para>We have been absolutely done over with this swindle, which is premised on faux virtue. The idea in this chamber that we're going to change the climate—that we're going to do it here in Australia by ourselves—is remarkable. Actually, it's insane. When you look at it, what is this virtue actually doing? The reality is, in an attempt to keep a carbon dioxide reduction policy, we are relying on increasing the amount of intermittent power and maintaining the regulatory caveats on the vegetation on farmers' private land. This is putting up the price of electricity, hurting the farmers, hurting the poorest, taking away private property rights, pushing many small businesses to the wall, de-industrialising Australia, devastating our landscape in regional Australia and weakening our capacity to defend ourselves. That is an incredible policy you've got yourself there. That's a piece of genius that you've devised for our nation.</para>
<para>In an alternative universe, the minister comes in here and tells us that power prices are going down. I don't know. I just can't get it, because they're not going down. Is there a person who believes their power bill is getting cheaper? It's gone through the roof. Whether it's a pie shop, a hairdresser or the Tomago smelter, it's all the same. They're under the pump, with record insolvencies and companies leaving. Rio Tinto is a pretty smart organisation. If they honestly believed that, due to our electricity policy, our carbon dioxide policy, our power policy, there was this nirvana coming and power prices would be so cheap, do you think they'd be going? Do you think they're dumb? They've done the research. They've said, 'We've done the research on this. This country has gone completely off its head with its power policy, and we're leaving,' just as Alcoa in Kwinana is leaving, the plastic industry and the urea industry have gone and we're down to two oil refineries.</para>
<para>Don't you think that, if all these people thought that Australia had got it all together, they'd be coming here? Wouldn't they be lined up? They'd be buying industrial real estate across Australia to build their new factories, but, of course, they're not. They're leaving. They're just saying the nice words on the way out the door. For the people who are the poorest, the people who can't afford their power bill—some of them have been getting booted out of their houses. The cost of living has gone through the roof. Have you changed the weather? Is there a difference? Can someone point me to something—'This has changed: we're down to two cyclones a year,' or, 'That's changed: we've reduced the number of heatwaves,' or, 'It's rained a bit more, or a bit less'?</para>
<para>It's an all-encompassing thing. What you do is say 'climate change' and then, apparently, you're allowed to get away with anything. I went badly at the Melbourne Cup—climate change. I had an argument with my wife—climate change. I've lost my pet—climate change. You just throw it out there, and as you soon as it's said you're not allowed to argue against it; you've just got to accept it. It's a religion. If you don't believe the religion, you're a denier. You're not a believer. You've got to be a believer: 'I'm a believer!' I don't know what you do then—speak in tongues and dance with serpents? I don't know what happens next, but it's a remarkable type of cult we've got ourselves into here.</para>
<para>It would all be funny if it weren't for what's actually happened, if we go to the facts. Let's go to statistics 101. There's been a direct correlation between the increase in intermittent power—don't call them renewables. There's nothing renewable about them at all. They end up as landfill. You have to build new ones after 15 years. What do you think? Do you think they're made out of fairy dust? They're made of steel, composite plastics, copper and oil. They've got the whole box and dice of unrenewable things in them, so they're not renewable. Have you noticed that, as you increase the amount of intermittent power, there's a direct correlation with the increase in the price of electricity? Fascinating. Maybe it's just coincidental—it just happens to have happened—or maybe it's cause and effect. I'll go with the latter.</para>
<para>We're not allowed to say 'coal fired power'. It's a religion. The believers say you're not allowed to say 'coal fired power'. It's evil; don't mention it. But when we had coal fired power we had, comparatively, some of the cheapest power on the planet, and we had heavy industry here. Now that we've got rid of coal fired power, we've got some of the dearest electricity on the planet, comparatively, and industry is leaving. Is there a penny dropping here? Yet we are told that everything is going to get better. All those companies leaving Australia—they're just stupid. The fact that China is building one coal fired power station every four days—they're just stupid; they're wasting their money. They're stupid, those Chinese. They don't know what they're up to. They're just a superpower. The fact that the United States of America is out and now its industry is growing again—that's just coincidence, just crazy facts. The fact that India is turning things around—the world is stupid, except for Australia. We are the shining light, and we're on this singular crusade. If you step outside this building you will see the benevolence of our work in the great ark of heaven, which will change because we managed to send poor Australians into destitution. That is what we are doing.</para>
<para>The only beneficiaries of this lunacy are billionaires. Who actually makes the money? Where does the money go? Follow the money. You'll find very rich Australian billionaires and you'll find multinational companies. I'll tell you who some of those 'really concerned environmentalists' are that have been benefitting from providing us with intermittent power. It's BP, British Petroleum. As we all know, they're terribly concerned about the environment. It's PETROS, the Malaysian oil refineries, among the biggest polluters in the world—they're are building them. It's Chinese real estate companies and Nigerian billionaires. It's all of these people. They're just so worried about the climate in Australia. That's why they've got to do this.</para>
<para>We have also seen, unfortunately, a lack of capacity to defend our nation. To defend a nation, you need to have an industrial base. You need intelligence, you need an air force, an army and a navy, and you need industry. If a part of your plane flies off, you've got to replace it. You can't replace it if you don't have industry, because you have to rely on imported parts. We have to rely on imported everything because we don't make anything here anymore. Because we don't make anything here anymore, we're very vulnerable.</para>
<para>As people might have noticed recently, in the last couple of decades, we have a totalitarian superpower called communist China, which is becoming more and more powerful, exerting its influence and projecting power. These are the circumstances we now find ourselves in. Communist China's People's Liberation Army is vastly more powerful than Germany was in 1939, and our military is vastly less powerful than it was in 1939, yet we sit back and our No. 1 priority is coming up with a climate policy. We're going to show President Xi. You watch us, President Xi: we're changing the weather; you just watch us. You watch us, President Trump: we're going to change the weather. You watch us down here in Australia. We've got this under control. It's lunacy.</para>
<para>In the end what we'll have, because of these swindles, with money going into capacity investment schemes and secret agreements—they don't tell you what's in the Capacity Investment Scheme, even in the budget papers. It's commercial-in-confidence. They're not for publication; you can't see them. In the end, billionaires are collecting the dough, and you can't tell where your money is being spent. Isn't there something wrong with that? Are there other things you want to keep secret? You don't want to know who's getting how much money and how it was negotiated? Please, there wasn't a mate who might have said, 'I know the fellow'? They're not standard agreements; they all get varying amounts. Some people get a big kicker; some people get a little one.</para>
<para>In the end there's going to be a royal commission into this—absolutely, 100 per cent. If we've had royal commissions into ceiling insulation, spit hoods and robodebt, by gosh, we're going to have a royal commission into this one. And then people will go running left, right and centre, because they'll be asking: 'Who knew what, when? What was your relationship? How did that come about?' Then the energy regulator will be the least of your worries. That time is going to come because there is no way a future parliament is going to tolerate what inevitably leaks out and becomes apparent.</para>
<para>The problem we've also got is, of course, we're still complying with the Paris Agreement. The Paris Agreement, obviously, believes that you have to have net zero in the second half of the century. That's a bit of a problem because, first of all, it's impossible. That's a small part of it: it is not possible. The only reason we're getting to where we need to be is that, basically, we're locking up farmland. Even in my area, properties are being bought, the cattle come off and the trees go on, and that's it. We've created a problem with our power because we kept on shutting down our coal-fired power stations to replace them with intermittents, and the power price went up. That’s economics 101: if you reduce supply and the demand stays the same or increases, the price goes up.</para>
<para>Now, with our genius, we're doing it to farmland. And do you know what's going to happen to food prices? They're going to go up because you're reducing the capacity for us to produce food. I'm a farmer. Do you know where the premium market is for our food? It's overseas. Australia comes second. Our big market is overseas. You want us to produce less? Sure, we'll just make more money. But you'll pay more. That's where we'll make it up—you'll pay more. This is what we're doing to ourselves. There has to be an epiphany for what we're doing. You're getting swindled, you're getting ripped off and you've got secret agreements—the whole deal is dodgy.</para>
<para>I'll close on this. This is all about the environment; we're looking after the environment. Thirty-one per cent of New England and the Upper Hunter is going to be covered in intermittent power precincts—31 per cent. That's 400 square kilometres of solar panels. What that looks like, if you're driving from Newcastle to Tamworth, is 500 metres of solar panels on either side of the road all the way along. It's the equivalent of that. Don't you think there's something slightly odd about that? Isn't there something wrong? We will have 4,000 square kilometres of wind towers with transmission lines. In other areas, we're locking areas up, kicking off the cattle, planting trees and hoping that we evolve into a higher form of termite so we can feed ourselves in the future. This is insane. It's a cult. It's crazy. It's not premised on facts; it's premised on desires and on a faux virtue. It's protected by this belief that, if you get into a corner with an argument, just say the words 'climate change' and you're out—that is the get-home-free card.</para>
<para>It's got to be turned around. My part, for my nation, is to make sure that I annoy people as much as possible. It's to try and make sure that we look after this. If we're going to continue down this path, then, you see, that's exactly it—you're against a religion, and out the door they go, because they're believers. But I'm not.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:39</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CAMPBELL</name>
    <name.id>312823</name.id>
    <electorate>Moreton</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I did have a speech written, but I believe that the member for New England's speech deserves a bit of a change of plan from me. The member for New England said the idea that we can change the climate—the idea that we can do anything or that Australia should stand up and do something when it comes to climate change—is a 'swindle'. He said it was a 'swindle' and he said it was 'insane'. The member for New England is the real swindler when it comes to climate change. He's trying to swindle people into believing that batteries and storing energy won't make energy cheaper, but what we know is that it will. He's trying to swindle Australians into believing that nuclear energy is the great panacea, the thing that can get them there when it comes to climate change and saving money and energy, but we know that it won't. The member for New England is trying to swindle us with the idea that he put forward—that you have to be a believer for the climate to affect you. I can assure you that, whether you believe in climate change or whether, like the member for New England, you don't believe in climate change, it is coming and we must do something about it.</para>
<para>The member for New England said that we are alone. He said that Australians should sit on their hands when it comes to this because we can't do anything about it. Well, I disagree. When it comes to climate change, we don't get to put our heads in the sand—or, should I say, we don't get to lie on the concrete. We don't get to lie on the concrete when it comes to climate change. We don't get to lie on the concrete when it comes to the economic opportunities in renewables and batteries, or to paving a way forward for the future. We don't get to lie on the concrete when it comes to the future of our young people. We don't get to lie on the concrete when it comes to making sure that we leave behind a world that is better than how we found it.</para>
<para>When it comes to energy and climate change, we cannot ignore the economic impacts. We cannot ignore the fact that climate change not only poses a very real threat to our environment and to our way of life but also poses a real threat to our economy. And not only that: my local electorate of Moreton, on Brisbane's south side, has faced some significant natural disasters this year. We've seen a flood, we've seen an earthquake and we've seen a cyclone. My community can't afford those things. My community is incredibly resilient and incredibly helpful to each and every person who needs it when they need it. But my community deserves better; we deserve resilience, and the bedrock of that resilience is always making sure that we are taking action when it comes to climate change.</para>
<para>That doesn't mean that we don't have to invest in community outreach and in ensuring that, on the ground, we help people with preparedness and resilience for their homes, their local sporting groups and our local community organisations. But it does mean that, as a government, we also need to pull the levers that we have, to ensure that we are tackling climate change and addressing the energy challenges that we have. That's why we have set that ambitious target of 62 to 70 per cent when it comes to our path to net zero.</para>
<para>There has been a lot of discussion—a lot of words, and a lot of talk—about energy and energy policy. What those opposite seem to have forgotten is where they stand on this. Those opposite had collective memory loss when it comes to energy policy, because they, the coalition, are the villains of the energy story of this country. It's worth reminding them what they have done when it comes to energy policy. What have we seen? We have seen a decade of energy policy uncertainty, a costly and fanciful nuclear plan that wouldn't happen for another 20 years and would cost billions and billions of dollars, and an internal crisis of faith in net zero unfolding before our eyes.</para>
<para>It's also important to remind people what the opposition has been doing for these last six months while we've been in government. The Nationals and the Liberals had a bit of a beef at the beginning, and the Nationals took a break from that coalition relationship. After that, we saw the member for New England recently say: 'You know what? This is too chaotic for even me, and I'm out.' We have seen, over the last couple of days, the Nationals say, 'No, we are not up for net zero'—and, so far, silence from the Leader of the Opposition on this incredibly critical issue that will impact industry, homes, community groups and the future of our young Australians.</para>
<para>While the coalition has been in complete chaos, in complete disunity and a complete shambles, the Albanese Labor government has been investing. We know that, when it comes to energy, what we need, what people need and what business needs is reliable, sustainable and affordable energy. The reform of the energy market is what this is all about.</para>
<para>Australia's energy market is rapidly changing. The Australian Energy Regulator, in its <inline font-style="italic">S</inline><inline font-style="italic">tate of the energy market</inline><inline font-style="italic"> 2024</inline> report, surmised a wide range of factors which illustrate this. This includes the drive towards renewable energy. Rooftop solar is now the fuel source with the highest registered capacity across the national electricity market. Consumers are enthusiastically adopting rooftop solar, batteries and electric vehicles, becoming an integral part of Australia's transition to net zero. People in my local community are taking up batteries, and we know that people from across the country are taking up batteries because they know batteries are an important way to drive a sustainable energy outcome as well as affordable electricity. We know that because we've seen over 100,000 people take up batteries. Other factors include volatile wholesale prices and changing demand, with record low minimum demand in New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania but record high maximum demand in Queensland.</para>
<para>The energy market can be affected by weather and outages at both generator and network levels, and there has been legislative reform to include emissions reduction in the national energy objectives. Energy is so important. It's important to industry, to households and to our local services. These factors indicate why the Competition and Consumer Amendment (Australian Energy Regulator Separation) Bill 2025 is absolutely necessary. It resolves some longstanding issues with the current governance arrangements for energy regulation in Australia, and, crucially, positions the sector for the future.</para>
<para>The AER has been operational for 20 years. It is one of three major market bodies that oversee the national electricity and gas markets in Australia. The Australian Energy Market Commission develops the rules for market operations, the Australian Energy Market Operator controls the day-to-day operation of the markets and the AER has the role of monitoring compliance with regulations and performance. Each agency supports the Energy and Climate Change Ministerial Council to develop and support Australian energy policy.</para>
<para>The AER regulates electricity networks and gas pipelines in all states and territories, including Western Australia. This translates to about 800,000 kilometres of overhead electricity, lines and underground cables, servicing about 11 million customers. The gas pipelines are over 73,000 kilometres long and provide gas for more than 4.3 million customers. The key role of the AER is setting the maximum amount of revenue that electricity and gas providers can earn.</para>
<para>The other important role the AER has is to help consumers make informed choices about which provider supplies their energy. Fundamentally, it protects consumers from prices that are too high and approves customer hardship policies, amongst other safeguards. At a time when the cost of living is impacting so many, Australians deserve protection from prices that are too high. At a time when the cost of living is affecting so many, Australians deserve to have a safeguard in place from government. As the AER states:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Consumers are at the heart of everything we do.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">The AER works to ensure energy consumers have access to a reliable and secure market and that they pay no more than necessary for energy to their homes and businesses.</para></quote>
<para>You can see that the AER has a comprehensive and wide-ranging mandate. It was established in 2005 under the umbrella of the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. Its initial budget, in 2004-05, was $6.5 million. In 2023-24 the budget had grown to more than $95.6 million. The organisation has seen rapid growth in the number of employees as well. When it began, there were 15 staff. It now has a staff of approximately 400.</para>
<para>It has been acknowledged for some time that, due to both the wide-ranging remit of the AER and its growth, the current governance structure is not fit for purpose, and we need to fix that. This bill therefore establishes the AER as a standalone Commonwealth entity separate from the ACCC. The reforms will give the AER authoritative control over both its funding and its employees. While the chair of the ACCC is formally tasked with leading, governing and setting the strategic direction of the broader entity that includes the AER, it is the AER's independent board that ultimately holds responsibility for these functions. This is an obvious disconnect between authority and accountability.</para>
<para>The bill amends the Competition and Consumer Act 2010. It establishes the AER as a non-corporate Commonwealth entity for the purposes of the Public Governance, Performance and Accountability Act 2013, and the AER board will become the accountable authority of the body. The necessary approval to amend the Competition and Consumer Act was granted by state and territory energy ministers in May 2023. The implementation of the bill recognises the need to maintain the independence of the AER. Consequently, the Minister for Climate Change and Energy will not have ministerial powers over the AER. The minimalistic approach to this separation guarantees that the ACCC and its constitution are not affected. Both entities will continue to benefit from the information-sharing arrangement currently in place. Importantly, staff will not be disadvantaged in any way by the reforms. The AER will transfer all existing staff and be able to employ its own staff moving forward.</para>
<para>There are numerous benefits to these reforms. Primarily, they set the AER up to be more agile in the face of changing energy landscapes. They make decision-making and governance more streamlined, eliminating duplicate decision-making. And they remove the dual ministerial responsibility for the AER's activities. Currently the Minister for Climate Change and Energy has portfolio responsibility for the AER, and the Treasurer has responsibility under finance law that pertains to the ACCC. Finally, these reforms remove the government risks that currently exist. They will end the governance of AER employees by the ACCC so the AER becomes independently responsible for both its strategic direction and its employees.</para>
<para>The reforms in this bill have been backed by stakeholders and experts for some time. There have been a number of public reviews recommending an autonomous AER. In 2015 the review of governance arrangements for Australian energy markets recommended establishing the AER as a standalone body. This was reinforced in 2017 in the Independent Review into the Future Security of the National Electricity Market. This review also noted that information sharing, liaison and cooperation should be preserved after structural separation.</para>
<para>This bill is focused primarily on making sure we reform the energy market. But what sits behind it is our values as a Labor government. What sits behind it is the idea that when it comes to climate we cannot sit on our hands and do nothing. We must take action. Not only that: we need to make sure that, when it comes to energy policy, energy is affordable and reliable for every Australian, for every business and for every household, and that is what this bill is all about.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:54</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr MONCRIEFF</name>
    <name.id>316540</name.id>
    <electorate>Hughes</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Our energy market is a cornerstone of Australia's economic infrastructure and a critical service for Australian consumers. It enables the transmission and distribution of electricity across vast distances, supporting industries, businesses and households with reliable power.</para>
<para>Australians expect to be able to have access to cheap, reliable power. They expect to be able to turn on the lights at night. They expect to be able to throw their leftovers in the fridge and have them still be cold the next day. They expect to be able to run their fans and air conditioners in the summertime. And they expect that their energy will power their healthcare devices. Reliability and stability are absolutely essential to our energy markets, and those are what this bill is aiming to achieve.</para>
<para>Stability in energy policy is not something that was achieved under the previous government. Was stability something that we expected from the Abbott-Truss-Turnbull-Truss-Turnbull-Joyce-Turnbull-Joyce—again—Turnbull-McCormack-Morrison-McCormack-Morrison-Joyce—yet again—government? No. But it was something that Australians desperately sought.</para>
<para>Those opposite do believe in climate change one minute; the next, they don't. They believe in reducing emissions one minute; the next, it's all too hard. They support a national energy guarantee one minute; they shelve it the next. One minute, Scott Morrison is talking about his plan to achieve net zero at the COP in Glasgow; the next, the Nationals are showing net zero support for the Liberal leadership. Just now, we have heard some appalling, unscientific scaremongering from the member for New England on this bill. Those opposite spent nine years in government, during which they could have formulated a plan to replace our ageing coal-fired power stations. They didn't come up with one. So, on this side of the chamber, the Albanese Labor government has had to spend the last 3½ years playing catch-up on energy policy to modernise our ageing system.</para>
<para>As I've said, Australians expect reliability in their power. That's why the work of the Australian Energy Regulator matters—not just to policymakers or economists, but to every Australian household, every small business and every community trying to keep the lights on and bills under control.</para>
<para>A key part of the stability and reliability of our network comes from the work of the Australian Energy Regulator, the AER. Now, the AER isn't one of the most high-profile parts of the federal government. You won't find many dinner party conversations that start with, 'So what do you think about the governance structure of the Australian Energy Regulator?' But its work in ensuring that Australian energy consumers are better off now, and will be into the future, is work in which Australians, including those in my electorate of Hughes, take significant interest.</para>
<para>In my electorate of Hughes, it's not an abstract idea. In 2023-24, Ausgrid customers in Bangor used 15,535 megawatt-hours of electricity. In Ingleburn, our industrial sites needs significant energy supply to keep our economy moving. Family-run local businesses, like Valley Kebab in Ingleburn Town Centre, just want predictable power bills. To the electricians on the job in Barden Ridge and Wattle Grove, and tradies trying to finish work before dark, these decisions about our energy-system regulation have very real impact.</para>
<para>This legislation is a critical reform to ensure our national energy regulation framework retains its effective governance. It holds real benefits for the people of Hughes, our small businesses, our environment and our local communities.</para>
<para>When the AER was established in 2005, it was a small team of 15 people, working with a budget of just over $6.5 million. Today, it's a national regulator of nearly 400 people, managing a budget approaching $100 million. That's a transformation by any measure, and this government needs to respond to it. Over those two decades, Australia's energy sector has changed beyond recognition. We've seen the rise of renewables, new technologies like household batteries and community solar, and a grid under more pressure and with more complexity than ever before. Yet, despite that change, the governance structure for the AER hasn't caught up. The AER remains administratively tethered to the ACCC, even though its remit, its expertise and its accountability are entirely different. The current set-up is a bit like having your dentist working at an accounting firm: 'I'm sure he's well qualified to do the work, but why am I coming to the tax return place to get my teeth fixed?' This bill modernises the arrangements. It ensures the AER is equipped to handle the challenges ahead, because those challenges are significant.</para>
<para>Across my community, people are making decisions about rooftop solar, about household batteries and about how to use power, and they are relying on fair, consistent and transparent regulation. The AER plays a critical role in ensuring the electricity networks that serve our community, from substations in Engadine and Lucas Heights to the distribution lines that keep Sutherland businesses humming, are operating efficiently and charging consumers fairly. Every time an energy retailer wants to change its default market offer or a network seeks to adjust its prices, it's the AER that steps in to check those proposals against what's fair and reasonable. For households in suburbs like Engadine and Moorebank, where people are watching every dollar, those decisions matter. So, when we talk about giving the AER greater independence, we're really talking about strengthening the referee in the system. We are making sure the organisation that protects consumers can act quickly, decisively and without interference.</para>
<para>At present, there's a mismatch between responsibility and accountability. The AER Board is responsible for the regulatory decisions, yet the ACCC chair is legally accountable for the AER's finances and staffing. That's not just clunky; it's inefficient governance. It impairs its ability to hold others fully accountable if it doesn't control its own people and budget. The Vertigan review in 2015 said it clearly: the AER needs full management and financial autonomy to be effective. The Finkel review in 2017 agreed, and the Energy Security Board review in 2020 heard the same message from stakeholders across the energy market: independence matters. This bill finally delivers on that independence. This bill takes a measured and minimalist approach. We're not reinventing the wheel or setting up an entirely new agency with layers of bureaucracy; we're simply giving the AER its own legal footing as a non-corporate Commonwealth entity, separate from the ACCC under the Public Governance, Performance and Accountability Act 2013. It means the AER Board will now be the accountable authority and the AER chair will serve as the head of the agency under the Public Service Act 1999. Existing staff will transition smoothly with their conditions preserved under the ACCC enterprise agreement. Shared services, like human resources or information technology, can be purchased from the ACCC or third parties where that makes sense. It's practical, it's efficient, and it doesn't burden taxpayers with unnecessary duplication.</para>
<para>Independence is essential for the public to have full confidence in our regulators. I used to work for a regulator, and we really valued our independence in terms of making decisions that were going to affect our economy and entities. The AER makes tough calls every single day, regulating billion-dollar networks and deciding on price determinations that affect millions of Australians. If the public believe that the regulator is influenced by another body, even if it isn't, then public trust erodes in our institution. This bill gives the AER the independence it needs to do the job properly and the authority to manage its own destiny.</para>
<para>Our energy grid is going through the most significant transition since electrification itself, with renewable generation expanding regularly. In the Sydney region, this new grid infrastructure is being planned to support the transition to clean energy. Having an effective regulator like the AER under the changes this bill brings will ensure the investment in this transition is efficient and that the benefits flow directly to consumers. In my community, that means more stable, affordable and sustainable energy for our future; more local schools being able to install solar panels; and small manufacturers being able to upgrade their systems without breaking the bank. When residents see their bills spike, they don't want excuses. They want accountability. By empowering the AER, we can ensure that it can act faster and smarter and ultimately protect consumers better. Those opposite don't want to acknowledge the transition that is occurring in our energy market, but on this side of the House we are taking action to ensure that Australia is ready for a renewable energy future as our market continues to transition.</para>
<para>This bill has not come to parliament in a rushed fashion. Instead, it has been shaped through extensive consultation with federal government departments, the AER, the ACCC and state and territory ministers. In May 2023, all state and territory ministers actually agreed to the separation under the Australian Energy Market Agreement. This bill is the result of years of review, discussion and careful design, and it's about time. This bill will ensure the removal of duplication, streamline governance and ensure the AER can get on with the job that Australians expect, to protect consumers and ensure the reliability and affordability of energy. An empowered AER will better monitor retailers, enforce compliance and ensure the energy markets play by the rules. Given the coming decade of energy transition, it will be more vital than ever to have a regulator that's nimble, well resourced and independent, because the energy market will not wait for the government to catch up.</para>
<para>It is a key strength of this bill that the separation does not disrupt information sharing between the AER and the ACCC. It still allows collaboration on investigations or enforcement. The people of Hughes expect this place to keep their bills low and their lights on, and they also expect us to ensure that regulators are working efficiently and transparently.</para>
<para>This reform is part of the broader work of the Albanese Labor government of modernising these bodies, from payday superannuation reforms, which ensure fairness for workers, to the National Energy Transformation Partnership initiatives, which help coordinate investments across jurisdictions. This reform is practical. It's overdue. It puts consumers and the energy sector on the forefront of policy. It's part of the Albanese Labor government's commitment to ensuring that our economy benefits from the transitions that are taking place in the energy market. I commend this bill to the House.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:07</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr GEORGANAS</name>
    <name.id>DZY</name.id>
    <electorate>Adelaide</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I'm pleased to be standing here to support the Competition and Consumer Amendment (Australian Energy Regulator Separation) Bill 2025, which will establish the Australian Energy Regulator, AER, as a standalone entity. It will be completely separate and fully independent from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, or the ACCC, and the Commonwealth. This is not the first time that this bill has been introduced. In 2024, a similar bill passed the House; however, it failed to pass the Senate before the end of the parliamentary term and is now long overdue. We must not allow a reform like this to falter again.</para>
<para>This bill is essential for Australia's continued growth and progress. The AER has long outgrown its parent body, the ACCC. When it was established in 2005, the AER operated with just 15 employees and a budget of $6.5 million. Today, the AER requires approximately 400 employees to meet its dramatically expanded responsibilities as Australia's energy landscape evolves with the rise of renewables and our commitment to net zero carbon emissions, expanding the AER's role significantly. The change that you see quite bluntly here is the 400 employees compared to 15 back in 2005.</para>
<para>The AER is the cornerstone of consumer protection and market regulation in an increasingly complex energy environment. Although the AER and ACCC currently have separate regulatory functions, the ACCC still retains authority over the AER's funding and staffing and is responsible for governing and setting the AER's strategic direction. In contrast the AER has its own independent board, which is ultimately accountable for operations. This arrangement is no longer fit for purpose. The separation of the AER and ACCC is long, long overdue, and we have recognised that the current governance structure limits the AER's potential as an independent energy regulator. The AER will be empowered to resolve longstanding governance issues, take full control of funding and personnel and strengthen its accountability.</para>
<para>This is not a rushed decision. As you heard earlier, it went through this House prior to the last election but didn't get through the Senate. But this bill has been recommended by a number of public reviews, such as the 2015 Review of Governance Arrangements for Australian Energy Markets, the 2017 Independent Review into the Future Security of the National Electricity Market, and the 2020 independent review of the Energy Security Board.</para>
<para>Australia's energy markets are undergoing rapid transformation to accommodate cheaper and renewable energy like solar and many other forms. As we move towards net zero emissions, our energy market must be agile, transparent and responsive. The AER's independence will allow it to better support integration of renewables, manage grid stability and ensure that consumers are not left behind in transition. Governance structures matter when regulatory bodies are entangled with border agencies. Accountability can be diluted. By granting the AER full independence, what we're doing is streamlining its operations and reinforcing something very important: public trust in its decisions.</para>
<para>This bill will benefit the Australian public by enabling the AER to focus on and respond to energy consumer needs with greater clarity on energy security, reliability and affordability. The AER plays a vital role in the Australian energy market. It monitors compliance, with market rules and performance, and it regulates the electricity and gas networks by setting the maximum amount of revenue businesses can earn from the consumer—ultimately, keeping a tab on what they can earn. The AER standardises the wholesale and retail energy markets, to protect consumers from exploitation.</para>
<para>The bill will amend the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 to legally separate the Australian Energy Regulator from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. The AER will no longer be a Commonwealth entity and will gain full operational control over its own staff, resources, governance arrangements and regulations. Importantly, the role of the AER will remain unchanged. The Australian Energy Market Agreement, the national energy laws which provide the AER with detail obligations and functions, will continue to apply.</para>
<para>The need for this bill reflects the energy reality in Australia. We have all faced increases in electricity bills—individuals and businesses—and this growing energy insecurity reflects upon a growing economic insecurity for all of us. This government must strengthen our electricity market and provide the AER with its independence to take the initiative to act in the public interest. The rise of electricity prices is of course a major point for all of us—businesses, families and industries. Many Australians are doing it tough with the cost of living, and it's our duty as a government to help alleviate that burden.</para>
<para>This bill is a small but significant step on a long journey for Australia's sustainable future. The bill is an act to make the energy market fairer and prevent retailers from overcharging customers. Recent data by the ACCC shows that 80 per cent of households could be paying less for electricity. This is a statistic that must improve. The AER, with full independence, can ensure that everyday Australians are not taken advantage of and that they can trust that their government is working for them. In these challenging times, our electricity markets must prioritise the welfare of Australian consumers. Times are tough, as I said earlier. The only way to get out of this cost-of-living spike is to band together—industries, businesses and families alike. We need to support each other rather than focus on maximising profit at the expense of ethics and fairness. The AER separated from the ACCC is the superhero we need. The AER can finally manage its growing regulatory responsibilities effectively and efficiently, free from government constraints. It is a start. It's the beginning of reducing electricity prices and supporting households.</para>
<para>The AER's purpose is to ensure energy consumers are better off now and in the future. Affordable and reliable energy is vital to our national economy. It supports productivity in industry, agriculture, manufacturing and the backbone of this nation, small businesses. These sectors depend on the accessibility of a stable national electricity grid. All of us will be able to witness the benefit of this bill that separates the AER. In my own electorate of Adelaide, many constituents have come to me to raise issues and to ask me for assistance in combating their rising electricity bills. Correspondence I received recently from an elderly couple in my electorate comes to mind. They had received a 4.7 per cent increase in their electricity bill. It has impacted them so much that they, like so many others, have recognised that electricity is becoming a luxury item. The air conditioners and heaters that help households combat the wild temperatures that we face here in Australia are becoming very expensive to operate, and families are left to face the rising costs. An elderly female constituent in my electorate wrote to me to say that the government needs to do something to help the increasing number of people in her community struggling to pay their energy bills. Australians who are renting, who already face the reality of their rent rising, do not need to worry about their energy prices increasing as well.</para>
<para>We, as the Australian government and as representatives of our constituents, must speak openly about these realities and ensure that we're doing something about them. This bill is more than just the separation of an electricity regulator. It's about protecting Australian households and ensuring that they are safe. It's about preserving the Australian dream of living a life of fairness and comfort. No Australian should fear that their quarterly electricity bills will be unaffordable.</para>
<para>Let us also remember that this reform is not happening in isolation. It's part of a broader national strategy to modernise our energy systems, support the transition to renewables and ensure that no Australian is left behind. The AER's independence will allow it to better support innovation in energy markets, including battery storage, demand response and community energy projects. It will also enable more agile responses to emerging technologies and consumer trends, ensuring our regulatory framework keeps pace with the future.</para>
<para>Energy insecurity is not just a household issue; it's a national economic concern. Small businesses, hospitals, manufacturing, aged-care facilities and schools are all affected by rising energy costs. A stronger AER means better oversight, fairer pricing and, ultimately, a more resilient economy. It means fewer disruptions, more reliable service and greater confidence in our energy infrastructure. We must also consider the long-term economic benefits. A well-regulated energy market fosters investor confidence, encourages competition and drives down prices. It ensures that infrastructure investments are made wisely and that consumers reap the benefit of technological advancements. It also helps Australia remain competitive globally, as energy affordability is a key factor in attracting and retaining industry.</para>
<para>This bill lays the foundation for a future where energy regulation is proactive, not reactive; where consumers are empowered, not exploited; and where Australia leads the way in building a fair, affordable and sustainable energy system. In five or 10 years, I hope we can look back on the moment of this bill as the turning point where we empowered the AER to lead with clarity, independence and purpose—when we chose to put consumers first and build a more resilient energy future.</para>
<para>If we don't do this, if this bill is not passed, there'll be negative impacts. If the bill's not passed, the AER and the ACCC will remain a single Commonwealth entity under the finance law. The AER Board would continue to have the powers required to fulfil its regulatory role; however, it would not give those with the regulatory responsibilities authoritative control over the resources and people needed to undertake that work. There would continue to be dual ministerial responsibilities for the AER's activities, and, in accordance with the Administrative Arrangements Order, the Minister for Climate Change and Energy would continue to have portfolio responsibilities for the AER while the Treasurer would be responsible under finance law because the AER would remain a constituent part of the ACCC, a non-corporate Commonwealth entity within the Treasury portfolio.</para>
<para>It's important that this bill is passed; it's important that we support it. As I said, we are empowering the AER to lead with clarity, independence and purpose and to ensure that we build a fairer and more resilient energy future, ensuring that consumers are protected—not just household consumers but small businesses and industry—which then supports our economy. I commend this bill to the House.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:22</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr HUSIC</name>
    <name.id>91219</name.id>
    <electorate>Chifley</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Thanks, Deputy Speaker Young. It's great to see you again. You're working very hard for that role today, I might add, sir. I also want to commend my friend the member for Adelaide, who referred to a regulator as a superhero. I think you referred to the AER as superheros—that's maybe the first time in the parliament that regulators have been spoken about so effusively, so well done, Mr Georganas.</para>
<para>I welcome the opportunity to speak on the Competition and Consumer Amendment (Australian Energy Regulator Separation) Bill 2025, because I think it is important for the Australian Energy Regulator, particularly at this point in time, that we give them the independence, the efficiency and the resources that they need. As to independence, while the AER have been under the umbrella of the ACCC, it does not suggest for one moment that the ACCC has impeded their ability to do their job. But this will give the AER the ability to progress the work that it is doing in a very important space and allow it to act decisively and transparently in the interests of households and businesses, who depend on affordable energy. When it comes to our gas and electricity, Australians deserve a fair deal, and it is important that we have a regulator that's oversighting that.</para>
<para>The AER, as I indicated, long operated as a part of the ACCC, a structure that made sense 20 years ago. But, really, times have changed, and it doesn't remain the case that it makes sense today. The AER regulates billions of dollars in network revenue and oversees hundreds of energy market participants yet still relies on the ACCC for staff and resourcing. We want the bill to address this, and that's what it does. It separates the regulators; it makes the AER a fully independent Commonwealth entity with its own staff, its own budget and its own governance. It will be able to make decisions faster, cleaner and more efficiently, respond to market circumstances and enforce rules in real time. It's one of the three bodies overseeing an area of particular interest of mine—the national gas market. It's notionally referred to as a 'gas market', and I want to come to whether or not that term is a sustainable one in this day and age.</para>
<para>The three bodies—AER, AEMC and AEMO—have operated for 20 years without full financial or operational control. The separation empowers the AER to strengthen its independent oversight of energy markets, in particular gas infrastructure, pricing transparency and competition conditions. It does a lot of work in the gas space, which I want to reflect on, and I hope that it does more work in it.</para>
<para>The ACCC does quite a lot of work. I commend the ACCC. Twice a year it does a very important overviews of the performance of the so-called gas market in this country. If I had one suggestion, one area of reform is a much more dynamic approach to assessing the state of the gas market. The way it operates at the moment is that the ACCC releases a report every six months but that report reflects on data captured six months earlier—so it releases a report in the middle of the year talking about summer prices and a report at the end of the year talking about winter prices. There's got to be a much more dynamic way to measure the behaviour of the so-called market, the prices that have been achieved in that market and the contracts that have been offered. If there is reform to be done, it is that this work needs to happen on a much more frequent basis. We're on the cusp of, for the first time, seeing inflation data being reported not on a quarterly basis but on a monthly basis. If we can do that on something as big as that in the economy, we can definitely move quicker on reporting on gas pricing.</para>
<para>I've intimated a few times that there is a label applied here—'the gas market'. It's very important to emphasise that this is not a gas market. This is not a situation where there is equal power between the supplier and the buyer. This is a market where there is extraordinary market power held by the gas companies themselves, who set price and contract terms in ways that, frankly, operate against the national interest. Their pricing is way out of line with international pricing, despite, I'd say, misleading suggestions to the contrary. They provide contract terms particularly to Australian manufacturers that are, frankly, unacceptable for manufacturers who rely on gas for feedstock. These are unacceptable terms.</para>
<para>The sad reality is—and it's been reflected upon by the ACCC in its twice-yearly reports—that, with the measures that have been put in place like the heads of agreements, the gas trigger and the code of conduct, it is hard to see that there is a demonstrable effect or a significant downward pressure on prices as a result of these interventions. They've been treated as a joke by the gas companies themselves, who make out that they have compromised and been able to do a better deal for consumers—but quite the contrary exists.</para>
<para>Some of the behaviour of the gas companies and their executives is extraordinary and portrays completely tone-deaf behaviour by them. Exhibit A is a Santos executive—I don't think it is extraordinary that we have Santos being tone-deaf; they've demonstrated their capability to do this time and again. Mark Vassella, the CEO of one of the biggest steel manufacturers in this country, BlueScope, spoke to the National Press Club and talked about how their overseas competitors could get gas in the US at $3. Santos executive Stephen Harty disputed that, saying that there was no such thing as $3 gas in the US, and then went on to quote Henry Hub gas prices at $4.90 a gigajoule in Ohio—this is in an op-ed that Mr Harty submitted to the <inline font-style="italic">Australian Financial Review</inline> on 21 October—and then said that the average industrial gas price in Ohio, where BlueScope's North Star plant is located, 'was more than $17 a gigajoule, higher than Australia's gas price cap of $12 a gigajoule'. Mr Vassella may want to investigate and respond to those claims. Santos, by the way, buys up a lot of domestic gas supply so it can top up its export loads and flog those off at much higher prices, which puts pressure on the local gas market. Be that as it may, we can come back to that at another time.</para>
<para>Let me give you an example. I said that was exhibit A of the tone-deaf nature of gas executives. The gas executive said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">If manufacturers are concerned about gas prices, why are they not investing in new gas supply sources?</para></quote>
<para>That is like asking a buyer in a market to invest in supply. You turn up to the market to obtain supply. When the customer objects to the price of supply, the supplier says, 'If you think you could do better, go do it,' which is just bizarre logic.</para>
<para>On top of that, the Santos executive said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">The truth is manufacturers do not have the appetite for the large amounts of capital—</para></quote>
<para>No wonder—or, as the kids say, 'No duh'—</para>
<quote><para class="block">They want risk-free, long-term contracts on a cost-plus-margin basis.</para></quote>
<para>Oh, the horror! The horror that manufacturers would want a better price for their energy!</para>
<para>I come back to the point that this is not a market; this is dictated to by companies with great market power. When manufacturers go and seek a contract length of greater than 12 months—this parliament needs to know that that rarely happens. Manufacturers that need gas as feedstock cannot get a contract longer than 12 months. Why? It's because of the profiteering of these gas companies that want to maximise profit and refuse to do a longer contract, because they hope that, at the end of the 12 months, they can get a better price. This is what we're dealing with.</para>
<para>Those opposite will go on about why gas prices are so high, but they'll do nothing about it. When we tried to cap gas prices, they voted against it. Their answer, taking the cue from the very gas companies that thug our manufacturers, is, 'We'll just get more supply.' Yes, we can get more supply, but we need to disabuse ourselves of the notion that more supply alone will result in a better price. It can put, to some extent, downward pressure on price, but it's not the answer alone.</para>
<para>We need to get more supply at better prices of an Australian resource—our gas, our prices. We should not be dictated to by export prices. The cost of doing business in this country for these gas companies who say, 'If you do anything against us you, we'll take our capital away'—as if, when they are fleecing the export market—is to give us a much better, much more competitive gas supply arrangement, with fairer contracts at way better prices. I would argue that the $12 cap, in this day and age, is too high. It should be lower. Australia should have the courage to argue. With bountiful supply of our own resource, we should demand a better price because it confers on us great commercial and economic strength.</para>
<para>Most other countries get it. Most other countries are prepared to stand up for themselves, as should we. Instead of having these executives, like what we've seen out of Santos, say, 'If you don't like it, go get the supply yourself,' and, 'If we don't like it, we'll take our capital elsewhere'—this is just tantamount to trying to thug the market, but it also defies common sense. They should do a better deal. Given that 80 per cent of our gas is exported, they're doing very well. They're doing very well on a historical basis. These gas companies are doing very well relative to when they made the investment. They were charging $3 a gigajoule and they have now got $12 a gigajoule. They've made more than enough profit to be able to do a better deal for Australian consumers.</para>
<para>While I'm at it, if we're talking about regulatory arrangements which we are expecting the AER to benefit from, can we please stop just watching foreign buyers get our gas—demanding to have access to it and saying it's a sovereign risk if they don't get it at the right price—and then resell it? We have had countries resell Australian gas after demanding access. No-one has a problem with foreign buyers using gas for themselves, but if they tell us we can't change our gas arrangements or our gas prices and they then sell the same amount of gas as east coast households and businesses use—this is extraordinary.</para>
<para>We cannot sit by and watch Japan and Korea resell our gas, which Japan in particular has done it for four years in a row, when we have been crying out for uncontracted gas at a better price. This type of stuff needs to be tackled—our gas, our prices. We need it for our manufacturers. The gas companies are making 'more money than God', in the words of President Biden when he talked about some of the gas companies in the US. They are not being short-changed. This resource is in bountiful supply. It is being exported, and a lot of money is being made out of it. We should have the courage to insist on a better deal for Australian manufacturers. It's something that we should be fighting for, because it is important.</para>
<para>As we said coming out of the pandemic, we need to make more things here. Gas is a key input for many of the manufacturers. We need to take a strong stand on this to be able to provide it. We can't just listen to the claims of the gas companies that say, 'If we just get more supply, you'll be right.' No. We need more supply directed here at a much more competitive price and on contract terms that are longer than 12 months. Those three areas are what we need to focus on, and I urge the House to do so.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:37</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr JOSH WILSON</name>
    <name.id>265970</name.id>
    <electorate>Fremantle</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank honourable members for their contributions to the debate on the Competition and Consumer Amendment (Australian Energy Regulator Separation) Bill 2025. The bill seeks to establish a legally separate Australian Energy Regulator—the AER, as distinct from the ACCC—to provide greater management and financial autonomy for our energy regulator, enhancing its ability to manage resources and set its strategic direction. This will allow the AER to respond with agility to changing energy needs and focus with greater clarity on energy security, reliability and affordability for energy consumers. This reform will enhance Australia's energy market governance arrangements, contributing to a strong and independent energy regulator that will ensure energy consumers across Australia are better off for many years to come, and I commend this bill to the House.</para>
<para>Question agreed to.</para>
<para>Bill read a second time.</para>
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            <title>Third Reading</title>
            <page.no>107</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:39</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr JOSH WILSON</name>
    <name.id>265970</name.id>
    <electorate>Fremantle</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>by leave—I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this bill be now read a third time.</para></quote>
<para>Question agreed to.</para>
<para>Bill read a third time.</para>
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          <title>Excise Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025, Customs Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>107</page.no>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:39</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr CONAGHAN</name>
    <name.id>279991</name.id>
    <electorate>Cowper</electorate>
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  <para>I rise to speak on the Excise Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025 and a related bill, the Customs Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025. The coalition will support these bills, because freezing a tax on beer is common sense, and we won't stand in the government's way. But there is much more that needs to be done.</para>
<para>Let me start with a bit of background to these bills. Australians face automatic tax increases on alcohol twice a year: on 1 February and on 1 August. That means that every six months excise goes up automatically, regardless of business conditions. It happens whether inflation is high or low, whether the economy is struggling or strong, and whether pubs and clubs can afford it or not. It's a system that runs on autopilot, and right now that autopilot is flying straight into an inflation storm. Just last week we saw inflation break through the Reserve Bank's target band again. That's bad news for mortgage holders, bad new for families and bad news for small businesses, who already face higher costs at every single turn. And drinkers get hit by inflation twice: once through rising prices and again through higher excise.</para>
<para>This bill gives small relief from the excise but does nothing to tackle the rising prices. So any pause, any breathing space for pubs, clubs and everyday Australians, is worth supporting. But we should also be clear about what this measure actually delivers. This freeze saves less than 1c per pint. It does nothing about the high inflation we continue to see under Labor. High inflation means that the prices of your groceries, your power bills and your mortgage continue to go up. Under this government, we've already seen food prices go up by 15 per cent, housing by 19 per cent, insurance by 30 per cent, gas by 38 per cent and electricity by a whopping 39 per cent.</para>
<para>Households need genuine action on the cost of living, not 1c on a beer. This change is nothing more than crumbs from the Treasurer's table. Yet, for many mid-north-coast hospitality venues, like the Willawarrin Hotel, the Hoey Moey, King Tide Brewing, the Pier Hotel, and Dave Richards at the Great Northern Hotel Kempsey, even crumbs can make a little bit of difference. These businesses have carried more than their fair share of pain. They've survived lockdowns. They've battled chronic staff shortages. They have absorbed spiralling costs of power, produce, insurance and freight. And they've seen their patrons tighten belts while their own margins disappear. Yet they're still standing, because they're stubborn, hardworking and deeply connected to their communities. They deserve a fair go. Unfortunately for many of these venues, this relief has come too late.</para>
<para>I have a lot of pubs in my electorate of Cowper. I know the publicans, I know their staff and I know what the places mean to them. They sponsor the junior footy clubs. They host the charity raffles. They're there for weddings, birthdays and wakes. They're where people meet to celebrate and to mourn. In many country towns the local pub is not just a business; it is the beating heart of the community and it's where you find connection and a bit of laughter when times are tough.</para>
<para>Australia's alcohol industry contributes enormously to our economy. It supports around 176,000 full-time-equivalent jobs. That includes 22,500 in manufacturing, 21,000 in retail and more than 126,000 in hospitality. It's one of the largest employers in regional Australia, and it keeps countless small towns alive. In total, alcohol excise generates around $8 billion a year in tax revenue, with the GST adding even more on top. So changes to excise affect far more than just the cost of a beer; they affect jobs, wages and community life.</para>
<para>While the coalition supports this freeze, we will not pretend it's real cost-of-living relief. To give taxpayers less than 1c off a pint, when we've seen mortgage holders pay $1,800 more a month since Labor came to power, quite simply is an insult.</para>
<para>We also won't pretend that this fixes the deeper problems in Australia's alcohol tax system. This two-year freeze is estimated to cost around $90 million over the forward estimates, less than two per cent of the $8 billion the Commonwealth collects from alcohol excise each year. This measure applies only to on-premises draught beer—nothing else. It doesn't apply to packaged beer, bottled spirits, wine or ready-to-go drink mixes. That means that most alcohol sold in Australia is completely untouched by this bill.</para>
<para>On-tap spirits and cocktails are far more likely than beer to be enjoyed by women and young people, but the government didn't even think to include these in the indexation freeze. That means that young women that prefer on-tap spirits and cocktails will continue to face higher taxes, while beer drinkers get some relief. That makes absolutely no sense.</para>
<para>There is nothing in this measure to address the $600 million alcohol tax gap identified by the tax office—money lost each year through illicit alcohol sales. That's revenue that should be going to hospitals, schools and roads, not into the pockets of criminal operators. It is exactly what we have seen in the illicit tobacco market, which the government has turned a blind eye to for so long. Right now more people are smoking again—we know that, with the wastewater data showing nicotine use rising. Revenue has collapsed. Tobacco excise went from $16.3 billion in 2019-20 to just $7.4 billion in 2025-26, a drop of more than half. Organised crime is the winner here. We see firebombs every other week. We see insurers refusing to cover businesses simply because they are beside a pop-up tobacco shop. It is one of the most serious policy failures in living memory, and we cannot afford to repeat that mistake with alcohol.</para>
<para>If we let the illicit alcohol trade expand unchecked, we could lose billions more in tax revenue, drive honest operators out of business and put public health and safety at risk. And let's face it: those criminal organisations have the infrastructure there, right now, through the illicit tobacco market. They don't need to set anything up. They just need the alcohol. Only yesterday I spoke with reputable operators who are seeing it starting to flow into our communities. We need to address this right now.</para>
<para>Australia's excise regime is showing its age. It's more than a century old. It has become a tangle of inconsistent rates and outdated definitions. It has been patched, amended and redefined, countless times, but never properly modernised. If we are serious about supporting local manufacturing and hospitality, we need to think beyond the next two years. We need a proper review of how alcohol excise works, what it's trying to achieve and how it can be fairer, simpler and more sustainable.</para>
<para>Leading up to the last election, the Nationals developed policy in relation to alcohol excise, and that policy was across the board. It looked at beer, it looked at spirits and it looked at brewers—small business, big business, on tap or bottled—because the reality is, right now, if you go out and buy a bottle of spirits, whether that's scotch or gin, the excise is over 60 per cent of the purchase of that bottle. Over two-thirds—that is what we are paying. It's over 25 per cent every time you buy a beer, whether that's a draught beer, whether it's in a bottle or whether it's on tap.</para>
<para>We developed that policy, which I was very proud of, and I put it out on social media. Somebody, a member of the public, said, 'What, you're going to save Australia one beer at a time?' My answer was yes—yes, we are—because, every time that business sells a beer that is cheaper, it puts more cashflow into that business, and that cashflow is where they reinvest into that business. What it means is they can keep that 18-year-old part-time or full-time worker, who's at TAFE doing a course so he or she can get an apprenticeship; they can stay employed. We will be saving Australia one beer at a time, because, if that person stays employed or the business is able to employ another person, that is good for the local economy. And, if that business grows, so does the community, because they don't just serve beer and alcohol; they sell meals, so they are getting produce from the local producers—that beef or the veggies. And then you think, 'Well, somebody's got to clean the place'—so the cleaner has a job and the cleaner can support his or her family, potentially sending kids to the local school. So, yes, one beer at a time will save a local community. It will save those people who work around the local pub.</para>
<para>We've seen, on countless occasions, small towns die because their local pub shut. It's a reality. It might not happen in the cities, but we're talking about regional and rural people, and that's who the Nationals look after. So, if you save regional and rural towns by one beer at a time, I'll wear that as a badge of honour every single day, because we know that over 97 per cent of small and medium businesses are in the regions. If one beer at a time saves the pub, saves the hairdresser, saves the butcher, saves the baker, saves the school and that regional town thrives, then Australia thrives—and you replicate that hundreds of times around the country—and I'll wear a badge of honour, selling one beer at a time.</para>
<para>But we have to reform the excise. It cannot be two years, switch the tap off and then go back to the old way, because that will not work. That will never work. And it's not fair on those mums and dads, generally, who own a pub out there, or small business owners like the flower group or David Richards with the Kempsey pubs. They put it all on the line. These aren't people who have been handed everything on a platter.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Ms Aldred</name>
    <name.id>11788</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Small-business owners.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr CONAGHAN</name>
    <name.id>279991</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>They are—thank you—small-business owners, who do more hours than I like to think of, and they deserve a break. I know that, when we put that policy out there, I was getting phone calls, text messages and emails saying, 'Thank you for thinking about us.' This is not about us making money; this is about us reinvesting into our communities to ensure we're here for the future, to ensure that we can spend that money on the Saints soccer team or the Rovers Cricket Club or a charity for cancer. This is what the pubs and clubs do, and so do the small brewers. They're small businesses. They're out there contributing to the economy of regional and rural communities, and, at the end of the day, the government coffers. Not only do we have an obligation to revisit this—and, again, we will support it; it is a fraction of what is required to ensure the longevity and sustainability of the hospitality industry.</para>
<para>On that note, this bill is a small and temporary step in the right direction. But Australians deserve more than small steps; they deserve a real plan to bring prices down, lower inflation and deliver tax relief.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:56</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms COMER</name>
    <name.id>316551</name.id>
    <electorate>Petrie</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The price of a cold beer has been rising, and our pubs and clubs are struggling. Labor always hops at the opportunity to support venues, workers and consumers. Local businesses poured their hearts out, and, to help them get ahead, we've introduced a freeze in the draught beer excise. Just like the bubbles in a freshly poured beer, Labor is rising to the occasion. The Excise Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025 is not mid strength and frothy; it's full strength, perfect pour. This has been brewing for a while. Many venues are 'barley' surviving—forgive me! Much like the WA emu, we run at great speeds to support our hospitality industry. We give a XXXX about supporting small business. From the great northern Australia to Carlton to the Cascades in the bottom of Tassie, the draught beer excise will support everyone. The bill is 'lager' than life.</para>
<para>Constant price hikes leave a 'bitters' taste in the mouth. We're helping with the cost of living whether you buy one beer or Tooheys. If you don't support this bill, you don't have a keg to stand on. But, at the end of the day, beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. Don't feel 'Coopered' up; get out there and support your local business. Quench your thirst with a hard-earned cold beer.</para>
<para>In Queensland, the weather is heating up. As the temperatures rise, there is one thing on everyone's mind: a cold beer at the local pub. A beer culture has long been essential to the Australian social life, for catching up with mates, celebrations or a stop on the way home from work. The local pub or club is not just a place for drinking; it's part of our culture. Unfortunately, the price of a cold pint has been rapidly rising in the past years. The Albanese Labor government has introduced legislation to freeze indexation of excise and customs duty on draught beer for two years, a practical step that will deliver real relief for beer drinkers, brewers and local pubs right across Australia.</para>
<para>This is a win for small business and supporting venues that are the hearts of so many towns. It's a win for our pubs, clubs and hospitality workers. It's a measure that will help keep prices steady and give business owners some breathing room as they continue to manage rising costs. For decades, excise and customs duties on draught beer have been indexed to the consumer price index twice a year. This legislation will lock in a freeze. This is a commonsense measure, part of our government's broader plan to ease cost-of-living pressures on Australians and to help small businesses stay full strength.</para>
<para>Alongside this freeze, the government is delivering further tax relief for Australian distillers, brewers and wine producers. The annual excise remission cap for eligible alcohol manufacturers will increase from $350,000 to $400,000, and the wine equalisation tax producer rebate will rise to $400,000 from 1 July 2026. We know that every bit of relief matters. Whether it's a tax cut for every taxpayer, help with energy bills or support for local businesses, our government is doing everything we can to make life a bit easier. By freezing the indexation on draught beer excise and customs duty, we're taking pressures off pubs and brewers and helping sustain 160,000 jobs in the hospitality sector. This is about backing small businesses, protecting local jobs and strengthening the communities that bring Australians together.</para>
<para>Let's talk about who this bill really is for: the people in places behind every pour. Pubs and clubs have been under pressure, and any extra cost hurts. Across Australia, there are around 10,000 hospitality venues that serve draught beer. Around three-quarters of them are small businesses. Behind every tap and counter stands a small army, around 160,000 workers across the hospitality sector, pouring beers, cleaning glasses, greeting guests and making sure that their customers feel at home. Many of them are students, part-timers, parents or long-term locals whose livelihoods depend on the continued viability of these venues. When we talk about freezing the excise on draught beer, we're not just talking about economics or taxation; we're talking about protecting local jobs and giving small businesses a bit of breathing room. We're talking about keeping the doors open on venues that are often the heart and soul of their community: the home of trivia nights, charity raffles and community fundraisers.</para>
<para>Each of those 10,000 venues is more than a business. When we help them stay viable, we're helping keep 160,000 Australians employed. That's what this bill is about: giving our hospitality industry the fair go it deserves. By easing the tax burden on draught beer, this bill helps those 10,000 venues and 160,000 workers weather the rising costs and uncertainty. It means pubs and clubs can reinvest in their staff, upgrade equipment or simply keep the prices steady for their patrons. This bill means that more money stays in local communities instead of being lost to compounding costs. It's about preserving spaces that bring people together, because, when small businesses stay open, workers stay employed and locals stay connected. It's not just good policy; it's good community.</para>
<para>I want to give a shout-out to some of the great local venues in Petrie that keep our community buzzing. There's the Scarborough Bowls Club, where the post-game schooners always hit the spot. Over at the Redcliffe Leagues Club, home to the mighty Dolphins, you can grab a cheap meal with your membership card; I always keep mine on hand. The Bramble Bay Bowls Club is always full of locals enjoying barefoot bowls, and Scarborough Brewery is a place to enjoy a weekend pint. It's always a treat to have a drink at the Aspley Memorial Bowls Club—who also just opened a brand new green—and, of course, the Mango Hill Tavern remains a local favourite. These are the venues where stories are shared, friendships are made and the community comes alive.</para>
<para>Freezing the draught beer excise isn't just about saving a few dollars; it's about backing the places that bring people together every single week. The next time you head to your local for a cold beer, you are less likely to feel the sting of another price hike. The Albanese government's decision to hold off on increasing the tax on beer poured from the tap will help keep prices steadier, protect local jobs and make it a little easier for everyone enjoying a night out. You can buy a round without copping too much damage to the hip pocket. This is about slowing the constant creep in prices that Australians have been facing on every bill, every grocery store visit and every drink purchased.</para>
<para>For years, the excise on draught beer has gone up every February and August, quietly adding cents to every pint. Those few cents might not sound like much, but over time they add up. For venues under pressure, that often meant passing on the cost to consumers. By pausing those increases for two years, the government is giving both venues and customers a fair go. For beer drinkers, that means more certainty when you order at the bar. Your favourite schooner, pint or jug is less likely to go up in price. It's a small but meaningful way to ease the cost-of-living pressures that hit home in everyday moments.</para>
<para>But it's not just about the money; it's about preserving the ritual that brings Australians together. When prices climb too high, that experience becomes less accessible. By freezing the indexation, we're helping make sure that catching up with friends over a draught beer remains part of Australian life and not a luxury. In short, this is policy that people can feel in their wallets, in their communities and in everyday moments that make life in Australia a little bit better.</para>
<para>The freeze on the draught beer excise and customs duty is just one part of the Albanese Labor government's broader plan to make life easier for Australians. It sits alongside a range of measures designed to ease cost-of-living pressures, boost disposable income and keep our economy strong. Across the country, people are feeling the pinch. Families are managing higher grocery bills and rents, and small businesses are balancing tighter margins. In times like this, we need practical, responsible steps that make a real difference in everyday life. That's exactly what this government is doing.</para>
<para>By freezing the indexation on draught beer excise for two years, Labor is preventing another automatic increase in cost for pubs, clubs and breweries. These are costs that often flow straight through to consumers. For the everyday Australian, it means one less price rise at the bar. It means the local pub can keep prices steady instead of passing on another increase. It's a small, sensible way of taking pressure off while helping local businesses stay afloat.</para>
<para>But this measure is part of something bigger. Labor's plan for cost-of-living relief is comprehensive and targeted, focused on areas that matter to most families, workers and small businesses. We've delivered tax cuts for every taxpayer so Australians are keeping more of what they earn. We've provided energy bill relief to help households manage rising power costs. We've made child care more affordable, we've cut the cost of medicines and we're building more affordable housing to give more Australians security and stability. When we put all this together, it adds up to real tangible support. It's about balance and doing what's right for households today while keeping our economy in good shape for tomorrow.</para>
<para>Freezing the draught beer excise is one of those smaller targeted actions that shows how we can make smart decisions to support both people and businesses. We want people to enjoy a meal out without worrying about prices creeping up again and to know their local pub can keep its doors open without cutting staff. That's what this freeze helps protect—the simple pleasures and social connections that mean so much to so many Australians.</para>
<para>This is what good Labor policy looks like—responsible economic management combined with fairness and compassion. We're backing working Australians, supporting small business and ensuring everyone gets a fair go. Whether it's keeping the lights on, keeping the fridge full or keeping a pint affordable, the message is the same: Labor is focused on easing the pressure, supporting communities and helping Australians get ahead. Let's take a moment to raise our metaphorical glasses to the pubs, the bowls clubs and the local bartenders. Cheers to an affordable cold beer on a hot day. Without further ado, I'll conclude my contribution to this debate and tap out!</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:07</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr RYAN</name>
    <name.id>297660</name.id>
    <electorate>Kooyong</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to speak in support of the Excise Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025 but to suggest some means by which it could be improved. Australians continue to live in the grip of an ongoing, severe cost-of-living crisis. Tomorrow, the Reserve Bank is expected to keep an anticipated cash rate cut on hold after inflation exceeded recent forecasts. That has been driven by rising costs for basic necessities like housing, food and energy.</para>
<para>The rising cost of living has been a challenge which has confronted millions of Australians for some years now, with inflation having risen so sharply since our economy bounced back from the COVID induced recession. As the inflation dragon has roared through our economy, the Albanese government has been at pains to tell us that there are limits on what it can control: the independent RBA sets the cash rate; Woolworths and Coles have become two of the world's most profitable supermarkets thanks to sharp rises in the cost of essential foods; and, on the east coast of Australia, domestic gas prices have surged since they were aligned with the global price for polluting gas.</para>
<para>The price of most grocery items is set by the markets but the government is not a powerless bystander in this space. There are some everyday items in which the government does have a hand in price-setting, and one of those is the price of a draught beer. That's right—the price of a cold one, a pint, a schooner or a pot. The average price of draught beer has gone up by over 30 per cent in the last three years. This rise, which is considerably higher than that of inflation, has occurred in the middle of our cost-of-living crisis. Contributing to that rising cost is the automatic indexation of the beer excise every six months, which effectively forces price increases well ahead of the annual CPI. What that means is that, while households continue to face the rising costs of food, of housing and of energy, the humble beer has become almost a luxury item. There is some good news, though, for Australia's beer lovers. It is within this government's power to act on this particular cost-of-living issue.</para>
<para>So it is pleasing to see the government's commitment to freezing indexation on draught beer, but it's not clear why we have to freeze it for just the two years. The impact of high inflation on the excise indexation over the last few years has left the price of draught beer simply too high. I'd make a case that we should stop automatically indexing the beer excise. This freeze should be permanent. A permanent cap on the indexation of draught beer excise will help millions of consumers tackle cost-of-living pressures in their homes. Right now, it's more expensive to enjoy a beer in my home city of Melbourne than it is in Tokyo, in New York or in London. Melbourne can't be the world's most livable city if you can't afford a beer while you live there.</para>
<para>A permanent excise cap will also support Australia's emerging craft beer industry. Despite the rapid very recent growth of small independent brewers, the draught beer market in Australia remains saturated by big international brands. In fact, roughly 85 per cent of the Australian beer market is controlled by two foreign owned companies. I think it would surprise many pub goers to learn that household names like VB, Carlton Draught and XXXX are owned by large Japanese companies. Asahi owns CUB, 4 Pines, Balter, Yak Ales, Matilda Bay and Mountain Goat. Another Japanese brewer, Kirin, owns Lion, and hence it owns Little Creatures, Hahn, James Boag, Tooheys, James Squire, Stone & Wood and White Rabbit. Despite what many people think, these are not, or are no longer, Australian brands, and it might well be an issue for the ACCC to look at, because what I'm hearing from constituents and from people who own bars and have a strong interest in this issue within the electorate of Kooyong is that independent brewers face real challenges with the rising cost of ingredients and of energy.</para>
<para>They're also dealing with softening consumer demand, and they're dealing with stiff competition from large retailers like Coles, which are increasingly selling their own home-brand beers in a way which largely mimics craft styles. Many small brewers for which excise increases were deferred during the struggles and the hard times of COVID are now struggling to deal with that debt in what has proven to be a persistently tough economic climate. In that craft beer industry, beer sales support Australian workers and local economies. The independent beer sector employs more than 8,000 people directly, and many brewers also contribute to hospitality and tourism in the way that they've designed and run their businesses. A permanent cap on the draught beer excise would be of great benefit not just to the hundreds of local brewers who employ thousands of Australians but also to the communities in which they live. It would be a much bigger benefit to them than it would be to multinational beer corporations.</para>
<para>Deputy Speaker Georganas, to paraphrase a famous old beer ad which both you and I are, sadly, old enough to remember, a hard earned thirst needs a big cold beer, and the best cold beer is one that you can actually afford. On behalf of Australia's 600 craft brewers, and on behalf of millions of Australian beer drinkers, I commend this bill to the House.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:14</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr FRENCH</name>
    <name.id>316550</name.id>
    <electorate>Moore</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to speak in support of the Customs Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025, which accompanies the Excise Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025. This is a bill that, if you forgive the pun, goes straight to the taproot of Australia's hospitality culture. This bill does something simple, sensible and overdue. It pauses the indexation of the customs duty on draught beer for two years, from 1 August 2025 to 1 August 2027. It means that, for the first time in a long while, pubs, clubs and breweries across the country will get a breather from the automatic six-monthly CPI hikes that have been hitting them like clockwork every February and August.</para>
<para>I know this might seem like a small change in the grand scheme of tax law, but for venues that are at the heart of our communities, for the small-business owners, for the shift workers, for the kitchen staff and for the locals who rely on them, it matters a lot. And I can say that with a bit of personal authority, because before I stood in this place I ran a pub myself. I know what it's like to watch your margins shrink every time you get an excise notice in your inbox. I know the pain of seeing the price of a pint edge up, not because of better wages or better hops but because of automatic indexation tied to the CPI.</para>
<para>This bill gives some breathing space to those who've been gasping for it. This is a measured, temporary and responsible pause for an industry that's been doing it tough. In Moore, that means pubs and clubs, from Joondalup to Mullaloo and from Kingsley to Duncraig—family-run venues, where staff know your name, where the kitchen serves a proper parmi and where community sport teams celebrate a win on a Saturday night.</para>
<para>Paddy Malone's in Joondalup, Whitford's Brewing Company and Carine Glades Tavern—they're not just places to have a drink; they're employers, they're training grounds, they sponsor the local footy club, they host charity raffles and they give apprentices a start. When you help a pub stay afloat, you're helping a whole ecosystem of workers and suppliers: farmers, truck drivers, musicians and hospitality staff. When those venues are stable, the whole economy benefits.</para>
<para>This bill doesn't touch packaged beer or retail sales. It's specifically about draught beer—the stuff poured from kegs into a glass. That's deliberate. The benefit goes to where it's needed, not into supermarket aisles or bottle shop chains. In the 2025-26 budget, this was part of the Supporting the Hospitality and Alcohol Producers Package—a recognition that, while Australia's economy is resilient, the hospitality sector still carries the scars of the pandemic and cost-of-living pressures. We know that, for many pubs, even a one per cent increase in excise adds thousands of dollars a year to their costs. When those hikes come twice a year, it's hard to plan. This measure says that for the next two years you can plan with certainty. You can lock in prices, pay your staff and get through the next couple of winters without an unexpected hit.</para>
<para>The Treasury has estimated a cost to revenue of around $95 million over five years. That's not loose change, but in budget terms it's a modest and targeted investment, one that supports tens of thousands of small businesses, hundreds of thousands of jobs, and the tourism economy that depends on them. It's a structural, not temporary, improvement in fairness. When the indexation resumes, it resumes from a frozen rate, so pubs don't face a double whammy down the track.</para>
<para>Now there will be those opposite who say they support the bill in principle, but they do wish they thought of it first—</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Conaghan</name>
    <name.id>279991</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>We did. The Nationals did.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr FRENCH</name>
    <name.id>316550</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>To that I say, 'That's fine,' because this is exactly the kind of measure that should have bipartisan support. It's practical, it's proportionate and it's temporary. It helps the people who get up early, work hard and keep our communities humming.</para>
<para>This is not about some sweeping deregulation of alcohol taxes. It doesn't undo the public health settings that have kept Australians safer. In fact, this pause is not anticipated to increase consumption. Prices aren't going down; they're just not going up every six months. We're not talking about cheaper beer. We're talking about stability for businesses. As a government we believe in responsible enjoyment, fair taxation and vibrant communities. This bill sits squarely in that tradition.</para>
<para>Some have questioned whether pausing beer excise might conflict with health obligations under international law. But this bill clearly meets every test of legitimacy, connection and proportionality. This bill meets all three tests. It serves a legitimate objective, it is rationally connected to that objective and it's proportionate. The objective is to support small businesses and regional tourism, not promote consumption. In other words, it's a measure to keep pubs open, not to pour more pints.</para>
<para>In Moore, you can see why this matters. In Joondalup, small bars and local breweries are part of the city's new energy, creating jobs and giving young chefs, baristas and brewers a start. In Mullaloo and Sorrento, the local surf clubs rely on social functions and bar takings to fund lifesaving equipment. In Duncraig, Padbury and North Beach, community clubs are places where people gather not just to drink but to connect, to celebrate milestones, to mourn losses and to raise money for good causes. When those venues struggle, the ripple effect hits everyone, from the brewer who supplies the kegs to the musician who plays on a Friday night. As someone who once ran a pub, I know how easily margins get eaten up—by electricity, wages, insurance and, yes, excise. The margin on a pint is thin at the best of times. For many operators it's the difference between keeping on that extra staff member for a Sunday shift and cutting hours.</para>
<para>So when the government takes a modest step to hold the excise steady, it's not about handouts; it's about fairness and breathing space. The Australian brewing industry has evolved dramatically in the past two decades. We've seen an explosion of independent brewers, from small local operations to national names. Many of them operate on tight margins to compete with international giants that can spread costs across multiple markets. A two-year freeze helps level the playing field just a little. It gives small operators time to invest in quality, in staff training and in sustainability, like switching to renewable energy, local ingredients or recyclable packaging. It also supports regional tourism that flows from our pub and brewing culture. People don't just visit Margaret River or the Swan Valley for the wine; they go for the whole experience: the food, the music and the community atmosphere. When local hospitality thrives, local tourism does, too.</para>
<para>This measure fits within a broader economic story: a government that's managing inflation carefully while supporting small business. In the same budget that delivered cost-of-living relief for households, energy rebates and tax cuts for workers, we also found room to support the industries that keep our main streets alive, because you can't separate economic policy from community life. You can't claim to be for small business if you ignore the local pub that's been part of your suburb for more than 30 years. When those doors close, they rarely reopen.</para>
<para>So while this bill might sound like a technical tweak to the Customs Tariff Act 1995, its effect is deeply human. It keeps people in work, it keeps venues viable and it keeps communities connected. For those who enjoy the fine print, yes, this amendment inserts a new section into the Customs Tariff Act. It defines a CPI draught beer rate and sets out that the indexation factor will be treated as one on the four specified dates. In plain terms, it hits 'pause' on the automatic tax rises for draught beer—no hidden fine print, just the two-year freeze. It aligns with the corresponding section 6L of the Excise Tariff Act 1921, ensuring parity between imported and locally produced draught beer. It applies retrospectively from 1 August 2025, the date on which the Customs Tariff Proposal (No. 1) 2025 took effect in accordance with parliamentary convention. The retrospective application is wholly beneficial. Nobody is out of pocket and no duty payer is disadvantaged.</para>
<para>Let's be honest: this pause won't change the world; it won't double the profit margin of every pub in the country. But it will make a difference at the margins, where most small businesses live and die. It gives stability for two years, which, in the life of a small business, is a lifetime. And, when indexation resumes, it resumes at the paused rate, not with the accumulated catch-up that wipes out that benefit. That's good design. It means that, even after the two-year window closes, pubs will still be better off than they otherwise would have been.</para>
<para>There's something symbolic about this measure. Australia's pubs are not just commercial enterprises; they're civic spaces. They host wakes, weddings, trivia nights and community fundraisers. They're where locals gather after a footy match or after a long week at work. In that sense, supporting pubs is supporting social infrastructure. When I ran my own pub, I saw that firsthand. A pub isn't successful because of its margins; it's successful because the people feel like they belong there. Belonging matters, especially in times like these when too many people feel disconnected. So, yes, this bill has an economic purpose, but it also has a social one: to keep our communities connected through the places that have always brought us together.</para>
<para>Some critics will say: 'Why just draught beer? Why not spirits or wine?' The answer is straightforward. Draught beer is unique. It's served in licensed venues with responsible service obligations, it's a major employer of hospitality workers, and it's a segment most exposed to the automatic CPI indexation that makes forward planning difficult.</para>
<para>Others will say it's tokenistic. To them I'd say: tell that to the publican who's been trying to make payroll while juggling rising costs on everything from utilities to insurance. For that person, a two-year pause on hikes isn't tokenistic; it's tangible relief. And for the staff who keep those venues running—bar staff, kitchen hands, cleaners and security guards—it's the difference between uncertainty and stability. To everyone in the industry—the brewers, the bartenders, the chefs, the cleaners and the delivery drivers—this bill is for you. It says your work matters. It says the government sees the pressure you're under, and it says we're willing to act pragmatically, not ideologically, to give you a fair go.</para>
<para>In the end, this bill is about more than beer. It's about backing local businesses, easing pressure on working Australians and keeping doors open on the places that bind our communities together. It's about recognising that when we talk about the economy we're really talking about people—their livelihoods, their relationships and the small joys that make life worth living. As someone who has pulled a few pints, I can tell you this: there's no better measure of a community's health than the sound of laughter at the local pub on a Friday night. This bill helps keep that sound alive. I say cheers to that. I commend the bills to the House.</para>
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<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:27</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
    <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I will start by saying what a wonderful speech that was from the federal member for Moore. Finally, we have a member of the Labor Party who isn't a neo-puritan. Finally, we have a member of the Labor Party who actually believes that people have a right to have fun and live their lives as they see fit, who respects their capacity to do so, and who actually believes there is a place in society for people to have the freedom to choose how to live their lives. It was one of the most refreshing and enjoyable speeches I've heard in this chamber in the many years I've been here. I say this with great affection. It was one of the most passionate speeches I've heard him give. So I say: more of this. More of this principle of freedom to choose. Now just put it into absolutely everything else in the legislative agenda put forward! But I know I'm going to be disappointed.</para>
<para>I consider this to be the high-water mark of the member for Moore's career. He has reached his Everest. Sadly, I doubt it's going to go much further up from here, but that's okay. I nonetheless want to congratulate him, because he's right. When you've got so many people in communities around the country catching up at a pub and enjoying a beer on their terms, good luck to them. It's their life and their choice. Of course, it's great to have people be sociable. But we also need to remind ourselves that you don't need to have alcohol to be sociable. Even the member for Fremantle, with his puritan lifestyle, is sometimes sociable as well, and there are other members on the other side of the chamber who are also sociable despite not necessarily choosing their way through to conversation. I know I'm casting aspersions on the member, and if it offends him I will, on this occasion, withdraw. I'm happy to do so.</para>
<para>But I do support this Excise Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025 and the Customs Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025. We support these bills for simple reasons. It's because we fully believe (1) in lower taxes, (2) in the freedom to choose, and (3) in the idea that it's good to be able to give reprieve, as the shadow assistant minister for financial services believes himself in saying that the coalition actively pursued exactly the same sorts of measures in the lead-up to the election. We fundamentally believe that we shouldn't be punitive; we shouldn't seek to chase down or to hunt or to haunt people for simply going about living their lives. It's very different from, for instance, the approach the current government is taking in other areas of excise regulation, where they're active participants in fuelling organised crime, criminal gangs and the firebombing of small businesses—something that is utterly insane, but that is exactly where we are right now.</para>
<para>So, I'm glad to see, again, that the member for Moore, the member for Fremantle and other members understand that perhaps, sometimes, just increasing taxes in perpetuity isn't necessarily the best policy answer. Sometimes it can have an unintended consequence too.</para>
<para>Anyway, let's get off the firebombing of small businesses and the fuelling of organised criminal gangs by the Commonwealth government, and let's look at breweries and who will benefit from this legislation. Let's go to the good electorate of Goldstein. In the electorate of Goldstein, we actually have, believe it or not, in or around the vicinity, quite a few local breweries. We always want to say cheers people who are backing themselves to be successful. In Cheltenham, there's Amber Brewery. It's a business that began as a dream shared between two mates, Kieron Hewitt and Alex Kutlajevs, who turned their passion for quality beer into a thriving local brewery. In Moorabbin, we've got Bad Shepherd Brewing Co., which I've been to. It was founded by husband-and-wife team Dereck and Diti Hales. Dereck started out brewing award-winning home brews while Diti, with her love of quality dining, American-style barbeque and expertise in brand marketing, helped turn that passion into a genuine community venue. Also in Moorabbin we've got Stomping Ground brewery, which was established in 2016 by Steve Jeffares, Guy Greenstone and Justin Joiner, after their success with a local tap house in St Kilda. In less than a decade, Stomping Ground has grown into Australia's champion large independent brewery. And we have 2 Brothers Brewery, another great local success story of hard work.</para>
<para>Of course, it's not just those breweries, where they produce the quality liquid amber ale, it's also the local pubs that which play such an important part of the social infrastructure of our community. I say this because it's one of the things that people perhaps don't know about my personal background: my parents were publicans. I grew up in pubs. I share the member for Moore's passion for pubs as part of the social infrastructure of the community. They bring people together. They bring people on their terms, whether it's for their social engagements for sporting clubs or whether it's just somewhere to go, after they knock off after a long day, to be able to find their friends. We live in a free society. Everybody finds their own place and their own home in their own different way. That's why we fully respect the important role that pubs play.</para>
<para>I know that Ferg from the AHA will, of course, love to know that he and his industry are always in our thoughts and prayers. I saw him on Saturday, and the first thing he talked to me about was beer excise. It's not really that surprising. He's very consistent on that and always has an ask, but that's okay because we believe in the freedom to choose, and he knows that I will always stand up for pubs because they play such an important part.</para>
<para>It doesn't matter which pub it is. The Sandy, in Sandringham, is important one. One of my favourites is the McKinnon Hotel. Not only is the food outstanding but the pulled beer is fantastic. Hotel Brighton is where I spent way too many nights during my campaign. After long days—particularly after the summer sun—I hit Hotel Brighton. To the good folks at Hotel Brighton: keep up the great work. Believe it or not, the pub where my parents met was once called Hotel Central. It is now called the Half Moon, and it is a place that I regularly visit in Church Street, Brighton. The Brighton Beach Hotel is a regular for many people, particularly after Saturday afternoon footy. There is Hotel New Bay in Brighton as well—G'day to Cieran—the Bentleigh Social and the Camden Hotel in Caulfield South. These, of course, are not just places to drink but the heart of the community—places of connection, friendship and belonging. But these businesses—</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>265979</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>You seem to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of them; it's really good!</para>
</interjection>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Deputy Speaker Freelander, you're interrupting and suggesting, somehow, that I have an encyclopaedic knowledge of the local pubs in my electorate in the sense that I should be embarrassed or ashamed.</para>
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<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>265979</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Not at all.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I am sorry, Deputy Speaker. I am immensely proud. I am immensely proud of the role that pubs play in the community. There used to be more; my only devastation is that many of them went by the wayside due to property prices and where they became unviable businesses in comparison to being converted like the old Bowie pub.</para>
<para>The current excise regime, as we all know, is unsustainable. Brewers are charged the excise, but pubs wear it in the price of kegs. Of course, when you go to tap that keg, you want not just the freshness of the beer but the freshness, of course, of making sure that the tax rate is not punitive. Customers increasingly buy from bottle shops instead because pubs simply can't compete. That is not good for pubs. Margins have collapsed, and many business owners are operating on the edge. We do not want pubs being unsuccessful. We will all pay a significant price as a society when pubs don't succeed. We need them to be part of the social infrastructure of our community.</para>
<para>This bill offers only two years of relief. It's a short-term measure, no doubt, because the government just wants it for a period so they can then try and renew it in the lead-up to the next election rather than turning around and saying to pubs, 'We're going to deliver a long-term commitment of support.' I would hope, one day, that we get to a position where pubs know they can go ahead with confidence. They have so many other challenges—being able to get labour let alone the cost of labour, let alone the management of labour. The Labor Party makes it so impossible to manage, hire, employ and pay people properly. Then they've got to be part of selling a good product—of course, that's up to them—but also be in an environment and create the atmosphere where people want to get along and be convivial.</para>
<para>Tax, as often with so-called sin products, pays a huge contribution to the overall price. We already pay some of the highest excise on beer in the world, and then we add 10 per cent GST on the top—the tax on the tax. Last year alone, beer drinkers paid almost $2.4 billion in taxes to the federal government, meanwhile costs of goods, energy and wages keep rising. It's inflation on inflation on inflation, and it's all being paid for by you, the Australian people. It's not being paid for by the Speaker or the Deputy Speaker—you never know what his habits might be—but by the Australian people. Publicans are afraid to lift prices because they can't absorb the increases. They know that it's a challenge. Their margins are tight, their costs are rising and they don't want to pass them on because they still need people to come in and spend. If they don't, they know they'll go home. If they go home, they don't take a cut. Their profits fall, staff hours are cut and fewer young people gain skills in hospitality. That's where pubs play such an important role as well.</para>
<para>It's like so many other small businesses. Small businesses, so often, are the gateway for young Australians to get their first job, to skill up, to learn discipline and to learn practice to be able to then go on and become full participants in the Australian economy. That's why we back small business every step of the way in the Liberal Party. We understand not just that it's Australians backing themselves to be successful and to go on and offer economic opportunity and security for their families but, in addition to that, that it's the gateway for the next generation of Australians to get their first job, to learn and to grow. And, of course, if they earn an income and position themselves, one day they too may be in a position to own their own small business and write themselves into the economic success story of this great nation.</para>
<para>We want to make sure that we ease the pressure on pubs. We understand why they're important to our community and we understand why they're particularly important to the Goldstein community. We want to take the pressure off them. That's certainly the message we've been getting from the local pubs and breweries in Goldstein. Kieron Hewitt from Amber Brewery and St Andrews brewery has made this point. How can you run a business when the government changes the rules every six months to three years? It's completely destroyed the industry thriving three or four years ago. They've had to line up to be able to expand into non-beer products to be able to survive. With the excise tax coming in at the same time as interest rates, people just don't have the money and can't afford to go out anymore. Government needs a commercial reality check if it wants to understand how to fix these problems, and breweries, of course, are the ones who are being hit. Whether customers have noticed or responded to the price increases really comes down to competition. Of course, we know that there are large brewers internationally who are flooding the market to try and make sure that they can compete and take the biggest chunk of what is actually a diminishing market share. So that leaves a lot of the Australian brewers doing the best they can to compete, but the government has largely undercut them by increasing taxes and made it harder for them to be successful. The reality is we need a serious fix now that makes sure that we provide a long-term solution. So, while I welcome this bill, the reality is my natural sympathy will always be with lower taxes; it will always be with lower taxes, and it doesn't matter what it is, my position, Deputy Speaker Freelander and Member for Fremantle, it will always be for lower—</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
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  <para>The member for Fremantle is interjecting. He was making a remark that I wasn't in the last parliament. That is why he should be so happy I am back in this chamber, because it will mean the lower tax nirvana of the future has begun.</para>
<para>Similar sentiments were expressed by Dereck Hales from Bad Shepherd, who said how, importantly, beer tax remains the single largest barrier they have in their industry and for private Australian owned businesses. It increases every single year and the gap between excise and the WET scheme for wine has become nearly laughable.</para>
<para>Of course, this is one of the big challenges with alcohol taxation overall. We know that one of my other preferred tipples, at different stages, depending on the time of day, is gin. As the member for Fremantle clearly—but my reputation precedes me.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>265979</name.id>
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  <para>When do you start that? Breakfast?</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Josh Wilson</name>
    <name.id>265970</name.id>
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  <para>One of our first conversations was about your collection.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
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  <para>And so, one of the biggest problems now with the gin and spirits industry is the scale of the excise. The distilled spirits industry in this country is literally going broke under this government. There are so many distilleries that have collapsed, closed or have had to be sold off to foreign interests. This is not a good outcome. Australian craft spirits, like Australian craft beer, should be an industry—a success—that goes on, employs and is connected directly to tourism and economic opportunity. This government is killing these industries needlessly. And tax is the key driver of it, because it creates huge problems for financing and huge problems for being able to manage the capacity to employ people. It also becomes the biggest barrier for starting a new business, when people can see a pathway to be able to produce a product to be successful and they want to back themselves. I know the member for Monash agrees with me on that.</para>
<para>We understand why this bill's important, but the industry is saying they're not sure why it's limited. They don't understand why it's time stamped and what they want is a longer commitment of certainty. All I hope for is that, in our considerations over the next two years—of course, this goes to the coalition and to the government—we give the industry long-term certainty around how we make sure to reduce the overall burden of tax so that we can have a spirits, beer and alcohol industry that we can be proud of—one that is not just successful in selling to Australians but selling successfully to the world.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:43</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BYRNES</name>
    <name.id>299145</name.id>
    <electorate>Cunningham</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I am absolutely delighted to rise today in support of the Customs Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025, which accompanies the Excise Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025. I am really excited about this bill for so many reasons. As I'm the co-chair of the Parliamentary Friends of Brewing with my good friend, the member for Nicholls, it is probably not all that surprising. The Illawarra has a bustling and ever-expanding craft beer industry growing our tourism industry, delighting locals and visitors alike and working together to support the growing network of local brewers. But one of the big reasons is that this is a win for regional communities like mine in the Illawarra.</para>
<para>I want to share a little story about why this bill excites me so much. Like so many of us here in this place, I spend many mornings standing at local train stations talking with commuters and local people about what matters most to them. There was one gentleman that really stood out to me. He used to drop in and see me when I was at Thirroul train station, one of our major commuting hubs, because he wanted to tell me how hard it had been getting together with his mates. This group of local blokes would get together on a Friday night down at the local bowlo in Thirroul. They are pensioners, and it was one of the treats they gave themselves, to have a bit of fun and keep in touch with each other—a group of blokes who really needed that weekly beer to check in on each other and keep them going for another week. But their beer was getting more and more expensive, and they were having to wind things back. Not everyone could come every week, and it was getting tougher to stay in touch. This might sound small, but, to this group of local Thirroul blokes, that Friday beer could not be important. I could see the impact it was having, and I was really grateful that this lovely gentleman was persistent in bringing this to my attention.</para>
<para>So, when discussion about the beer excise came up, I shared this story with the Treasurer to let him know the impact the cost of beer was having on groups of pensioners in my electorate, because this is absolutely not an isolated group of blokes. That social interaction is so important to so many people across Australia. One of the best texts I have ever received from my good friend the Treasurer was to let me know that we were freezing the beer excise. I knew straightaway that there was a group of blokes down at Thirroul bowlo who would be cheering. I want to thank the Treasurer not only for listening to this story but for taking it seriously and taking action—just one more piece of cost-of-living support from the Albanese government.</para>
<para>This is what these bills are about—a targeted, measured change to pause indexation on draught beer excise and excise-equivalent customs duties for two years. For 40 years, beer excise indexation hasn't changed, with two annual excise increases in line with CPI each year. The pressure on small businesses has been growing. Pubs, clubs and breweries are part of what makes Australian culture. They bring us together, and in some cases they hold us together during good times and bad. In the regions in particular, they are community hubs, and they are important for our economy. The measure applies only to containers between eight and 48 litres, those commonly used in pubs and clubs, and containers over 48 litres, used in larger hospitality venues, helping to ensure this is targeted at keeping operating costs stable for our hospitality venues while maintaining our broader alcohol excise framework. This is sensible, practical and responsible, and that is what our government is about.</para>
<para>In my work as co-chair of the Parliamentary Friends of Brewing, I have worked closely with the Brewers Association of Australia. A 100 per cent member funded association, they have worked hard, along with the Australian Hotels Association and others, to see this issue given the attention that it deserves, and they have worked with the government on a practical solution.</para>
<para>Around 10,000 hospitality venues across Australia will directly benefit from this change. Around 75 per cent of those are small businesses, and small businesses have been doing it tough. Across the supply chain, the brewing industry contributes $17 billion every year to our economy—that's agriculture, transport, logistics, hospitality, retail and tourism—and it creates about 100,000 full-time-equivalent jobs. In fact, there are 6,591 full-time-equivalent jobs linked directly to brewing. In New South Wales alone, brewing supports more than 28,000 full-time-equivalent jobs across the supply chain and adds around $4.2 million to our economy. It's significant. Without support, jobs are at risk, communities are at risk and the economy will be left worse off.</para>
<para>These bills also support Australian brewers, particularly those small and independent producers supplying draught beer to local venues. The government has announced tax relief for Australia's distillers, brewers and wine producers. Currently, brewers and distillers get a full remission of any excise paid, up to $350,000 each year. We will increase the excise remission cap to $400,000 for all eligible manufacturers, and we will also increase the wine equalisation tax producer rebate cap to $400,000 from 1 July 2026. In my electorate in the Illawarra, I know this is going to make a huge difference, because this local industry is absolutely booming. Independent breweries alone contribute $1.18 million to the Australian economy every year.</para>
<para>Back home, the Illawarra Brewing Company started brewing local beer in 2011, taking over from the Five Islands Brewing Company, which began in 2001. At the time, it was the only one—a small father-and-son outfit run by Garry and Dave McGrath that supplied beer to the Illawarra Brewery, a popular local venue. In 2012, they won five awards at the Australian International Beer Awards, and they became the first pioneers of craft beer in the Illawarra.</para>
<para>Flash forward to 2025, and now we have eight local brewing companies: Resin Brewing, the Barrel Shepherd, Principle Brewing, Reub Goldberg Brewing, Dusty Lizard Brewing, Five Barrel Brewing, First Light Brewing Co and Seeker Brewing. We also have the South Coast Ale Trail and the Wollongong Brewers Association—local companies banding together to change the face of beer in Wollongong and to catapult this booming local industry. And it's working. Local bars, pubs, clubs and restaurants are getting on board, fighting to become stockists of locally made beer.</para>
<para>And it is really good beer, at that. Seeker Brewing in Unanderra took home six silver and two bronze medals at this year's Australian International Beer Awards—their latest haul in an impressive line-up of awards, having won multiple golds in 2022 and 2023. Their specialty, hop-focused brewing, makes them one of the country's top producers in this style.</para>
<para>Five Barrel Brewing was the Illawarra's second brewery, and it was named the state's best new brewery in 2016. Five Barrel is owned by Phillip O'Shea and his sister Lucy Timpano, with help from their parents and other family members as well, making Five Barrel a true family organisation. Since 2016, they have kept moving to greater and greater heights. Following in the footsteps of Dave McGrath from the Illawarra Brewing Company, Phil and Lucy wanted to turn the Gong from a VB town to a craft beer town, and I think you could say they've had a lot of success.</para>
<para>Local brewers are focusing on shifting attitudes to drinking from drink-to-drink culture to drink-to-enjoy culture, by educating patrons on what craft beer is all about. In an exciting new venture, the Bus of Hoppiness rolls into town this coming weekend—a bus tour on a travelling loop of five local breweries: Seeker, Five Barrel, First Light, Dusty Lizard and Principle, helping to shepherd beer lovers and novices alike around the Illawarra's exciting craft beer culture, all thanks to the new Wollongong Brewers Association. I think this is the other important point: that craft beer is actually about doing beer differently—doing it responsibly and doing it for enjoyment. They are a community helping and supporting each other to give the Illawarra just one more reason to be the best region in Australia. And I certainly agree with that. That is why I am so thrilled that the Albanese government is supporting this industry.</para>
<para>We are also supporting businesses, like the Headlands hotel, the Illawarra Hotel, Howlin' Wolf Bar, the Prince, His Boy Elroy, Steamers Bar and Grill and so many others, who are getting on board and stocking local Illawarra beers on tap, because supporting small businesses and supporting local people to deal with the cost of living is No. 1 on our priority list. Manufacturing, hospitality, tourism—they run the regions, they feed our national economy, and they are vital. We want to support our small local brewers to compete against the large multinational producers. We want to ensure that our beer and hospitality market has diversity and healthy competition. We're keeping it measured, we're keeping it responsible and we are keeping it in line with what will help these important small businesses right now, protecting the jobs that they create, protecting the economic value they drive and protecting our Australian culture, by responsibly enjoying our pubs and clubs—just like that lovely gentleman and his mates down at the Thirroul bowlo.</para>
<para>I am proud to be part of a government that knows our values, knows what is important to protect and knows what can be adjusted for the benefit of all Australians. I will keep doing what I can to ensure that local voices are heard in these important conversations. I will keep doing what I can to ensure our local beer industry can continue to thrive. We have so many people employed in manufacturing. I will keep doing what I can to support my community with real and impactful cost-of-living relief, just like we have done by investing in Medicare, making home solar batteries 30 per cent cheaper, cutting student debt by 20 per cent, increasing the minimum wage, increasing the super guarantee and paid parental leave, boosting the pension, cutting taxes, cutting energy bills and helping more people to be able to afford a home. Always, we have given cost-of-living relief to local people.</para>
<para>All of this support has been done at the same time that headline inflation has come down, our economy has stabilised, unemployment has been low and real wages have grown. It is sensible economic management by a government that knows which levers to press and when, balancing support of our community with support of our economy. Our plan is working, and we will keep at it.</para>
<para>Again, I want to thank the Treasurer and the Assistant Treasurer for these bills. I want to thank all of those industry bodies that worked constructively with us through this process. I'm looking forward to another term as co-chair of the Parliamentary Friends of Brewing. I'll again be working closely with the Brewers Association of Australia, the Independent Brewers Association, my co-chair, the member for Nicholls, as we keep bringing the spotlight on Australia's brewing and live music industries to the Australian parliament. I encourage everyone who hasn't yet tasted the amazing craft beer that the Illawarra has to offer to come and visit the South Coast Ale Trail. You won't be disappointed. I commend this bill to the House.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:55</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BATT</name>
    <name.id>315478</name.id>
    <electorate>Hinkler</electorate>
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  <para>I rise to speak to the Excise Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025 and the Customs Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025. My electorate of Hinkler is famous all over Australia and indeed the world for producing some of our nation's finest beverages. The iconic Bundaberg rum, Kalki Moon distillery, the Spirit Collective in Hervey Bay, the legendary Bundaberg ginger beer and, of course, many craft breweries are making a name for themselves, such as 384 North Brewing in Bundaberg and Cauldron Brewing in Hervey Bay. The bill to freeze the indexation on draft beer excise for two years is welcome. But, when it comes to tax relief, many of the makers behind the brands that put my region of Hinkler on the map have been left wanting, and they are hurting, under Labor. If those opposite were serious about addressing the cost of living and the deeper issues surrounding the alcohol excise system, they would have delivered more. The Labor government should have advocated for a comprehensive review of the alcohol system. An ice-cold beer is good, but, when there's more froth than there is amber liquid in your schooner, you'd expect better. That's what the industry wants too.</para>
<para>I recently met with the Chair of Diageo, Sir John Manzoni, and his Australasian team when they visited here in Canberra. Diageo is a global leader in premium drinks, and they look after the Bundaberg rum brand and many others. While they are supportive of the tax pause, the freeze applies only to on-premise draught beer, not bottled beer, packaged drinks or wine. So, yes, Diageo, like other industry leaders, support the pause. But Labor should have Treasury conducting a comprehensive review of the alcohol excise system. Extending the draught beer excise freeze to tap spirits is being advocated for by Spirits and Cocktails Australia and supported by the Australian Hotels Association, the Queensland Hotels Association, Clubs Queensland and Clubs Australia and the Night Time Industries Association. Together, they are seeking to extend the two-year freeze on draught beer excise to tap spirits served on premises in hospitality venues. I support that as well. Tap spirits would include bulk containers of spirits and lower-alcohol premixed drinks designed to be connected to pressurised or pump delivery systems. It is not proposed to extend to standard bottles of full-strength spirits or to individual ready-to-drink bottles or cans.</para>
<para>The industry is proposing amending the Customs Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025 to introduce two new subitems to the excise tariff schedule. This is a small increase to the existing draft beer freeze, which the government expects will cost only $95 million over five years. Tap spirits are a growing part of the product mix for pubs, clubs and small bars. Extending the freeze to tap spirits would provide cost-of-living relief beyond customers who choose to drink beer. In my home state of Queensland, the Queensland Hotels Association has thanked us for backing the freeze on draught beer excise. Yes, it is a win for local pubs, hardworking hospitality workers and every Aussie who enjoys a cold one without needing a small loan. Freezing the biannual indexation of alcohol excise for two years from 1 August this year means beer is cheaper. But let's be honest; while a reprieve, it's hardly noticeable. This commitment to freeze the tax was always matched by the coalition, because we know that clubs, pubs and hospitality workers need a break, and hardworking Aussies deserve to be able to afford a cold one. The reality is that this freeze delivers less than 1c of relief per pint.</para>
<para>There's a well-known pub that sits on the Bruce Highway in Childers, in the heart of my electorate of Hinkler. The historic Grand hotel has been owned and run by the Corliss family since the mid-1990s. Dan Corliss, a former police officer, has worked on and off in the family pub over the past 30 years and took on the official role as publican in 2024—something I've always wanted to do. He's quickly taken this country pub in Childers to an international audience, thanks to what's called the Mongrel Menu, featuring some extraordinary food challenges. The widespread interest in these contests is epic. The menu features one-kilogram local steaks and big burgers. Videos of people attempting these challenges generate around 7½ million views on social media every month. Dan has 25 staff, and he's proud of what he's achieved, but clearly Dan and his team need to be creative. While the freeze on tap beer is a reprieve, it's just that. While Dan is grateful, this freeze is only a pause. Publican Dan's family has been in the hospitality game for three decades, and he tells me the one thing that he's always experienced, since the beginning, is the guarantee of rising tax on beer. It's a constant rise, twice a year, year on year—everyone paying more for a beer. It's not good for his family pub and not good for his customers.</para>
<para>Dan knows this freeze is good, but it's not going far enough to absorb the high electricity prices and the ever-increasing costs that the suppliers and brewers are passing on. That's where the Nationals plan for a cheaper, better and fairer energy future comes in. Australians can't afford Labor's net zero. Families are paying too much. Jobs are being lost. Forests and farmland are being destroyed. Labor's net zero has failed. The Nationals energy and climate plan is cheaper. We will lower energy prices first, use all of our resources and abandon the commitment to net zero. All carbon taxes and restrictions should be removed. The Nationals energy and climate plan is better because we will protect our local environment through local community action such as waterway protection, land restoration and soil carbon. We will ensure that our national security is not compromised. The Nationals energy and climate plan is fairer because we will reduce emissions in line with comparable nations, not ahead of them. We will ensure that costs are distributed fairly, not concentrated on regional Australia. We need to bring common sense back to solving climate change.</para>
<para>In a cost-of-living crisis, net zero is adding to power bills and sending Australian jobs overseas. Even worse, it's damaging the natural environment, when there's a fairer way to reduce emissions. We need to take the pressure off family power bills, protect local jobs and do our fair share to reduce emissions. Let's reduce the costs associated with keeping your beer cold. Let's cut the energy expense so that makers of your favourite drop don't have to pass it on.</para>
<para>I don't want to forget the smaller brewers. Power prices are up. Gas prices are sky high. Rent and wages are high. The cost of ingredients to make craft beers is making it tough for these relatively small businesses to make money. The freeze in question is not relevant to most small brewers, as they are already exempt from excise duty on a certain volume of their production through a remission scheme, but these breweries still need more cost relief. They have to compete with the bigger brands, and their overheads, like electricity and wages, are making it very tough.</para>
<para>My electorate of Hinkler's array of award-winning makers, brewers and distillers serve up more than amber ales. When it comes to top-tasing tipples, Hinkler leads the pack. The bill to freeze the indexation of draught beer excise for two years is a good thing, but we must expand the scope and focus beyond the beer and onto spirits. The Nationals Federal Council at the weekend moved a motion supporting an ongoing freeze of the federal alcohol excise tax and a reduction of alcohol tax across the board to a fair and equitable level at licensed venues.</para>
<para>Because of Labor's economic vandalism, households are paying 15 per cent more for food, 15 per cent more for health, 19 per cent more for housing, 37 per cent more for insurance and nearly 40 per cent more for electricity. Mortgage holders are paying $1,800 more a month, with 12 rate rises and only three cuts since Labor came to power. Everyday Australian are footing the bill for Labor's spending spree, in their tax returns, their electricity bills, their mortgage payments and their growing difficulty in finding a job. Labor has no strategy to address the government spending spree fuelling inflation. There is no sign of a broader excise reform conversation, just piecemeal freezes. Labor must reintroduce quantifiable budget rules. Australians deserve better. The government's two strategies, debt and taxes, are not a plan for prosperity. The coalition's priority is clear: stop the spending spree and start growing the economic pie so Australians can get ahead again. The coalition welcomes any relief for pubs, clubs and beer drinkers, but this needs to be more than a patchwork fix in the face of high inflation.</para>
<para>This measure will pause indexation of the beer excise for two years, but it does nothing about inflation in the cost of everything. A 1c cheaper pint is not effective cost-of-living-relief. The Excise Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025 and Customs Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025 are small wins for beer drinkers, brewers and every pub, club and hospitality business across Hinkler and the nation. But more must be done for Australia's hospitality and alcohol industries. This measure is worth just $90 million over the forward estimates. That's tiny compared to the $8 billion collected annually from alcohol taxes by this government. These businesses have gone through COVID, record high inflation and endless cost-of-living pressures.</para>
<para>Let's support the ongoing viability and growth of our local industries and Australian jobs. If Labor is serious about the cost of living, it must stop the spending spree and start growing the economic pie. Let's do more for country publicans like Dan at the Grand Hotel Childers and for the craft breweries in Hervey Bay and Bundy. The people of my electorate of Hinkler, like those all over Australia, deserve to enjoy an affordable drink of their choosing. And the pubs, clubs and hospitality workers—and those right throughout the industry and across the supply chain—need more than a reprieve. They need ongoing support, and I will make sure that they continue to get mine.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:06</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ROB MITCHELL</name>
    <name.id>M3E</name.id>
    <electorate>McEwen</electorate>
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  <para>It’s great to rise tonight to support the Customs Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025 and the Excise Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025. It's great to do that because what we've seen is this government come to office and actually do things that help people with their cost of living. We heard someone rattle off just before about the cost of living, but what the member opposite never mentioned is that, every single time there's been a cost-of-living amendment, they've opposed it.</para>
<para>Even this, going into the election, was not a bipartisan supported program. In fact, the shadow Treasurer made it clear that they were not doing it. But once Labor came out with it and committed to it, after we had a great report from the committee last year—a bipartisan report—that looked into food and beverage manufacturing in Australia, suddenly the fighting over this stopped momentarily to support something we were doing. And that's the important thing. This is about a government that leads—a government that has brought people from all walks of life under one roof.</para>
<para>We're lucky to have venues in our electorates that bring people from all walks of life together. They are those crucial spaces where members of a community can meet, relax and spend time together and, more often than not, have a nice, cold, frothy one. However, as we know, many of these venues have been doing it tough. With high overheads, strong regulations to meet and a host of other costs, profit margins for many owners can be slim. For these cornerstones of our community, the cost-of-living issues we inherited from the previous government brought many to the brink. It's a delicate balancing act. Charge too little for drinks, and the venue operates at a loss. Charge too much, and no-one comes in.</para>
<para>Throw in a couple more facts and the fact that these businesses are operating at all becomes more impressive. Many hospitality venues are still recovering from the pandemic era disruptions. The lack of trade and the ongoing costs of leases, insurance and utilities depleted savings, and many did go out of business. There were nine years of economic mismanagement by those opposite. When the economy goes down, it pulls small businesses down first.</para>
<para>On 3 May 2025, small operators of licensed venues made their choice. They placed their trust in Labor, the only party that would deliver them the much-needed support. In August, the Assistant Treasurer moved a motion to freeze the increase on beer taxes for two years. Brewers across Australia rejoiced. Through that, we sent an important signal—a signal that we are here for pubs and clubs in particular. We hear you and we are here for you. The bills are a ratification of a government's decision. They clarify our commitment to local businesses. For the first time in 40 years, we are pausing the automatic CPI indexation of twice-yearly increases in duty rates. This directly responds to cost-of-living pressures by backing in Australian businesses. We do this without undermining public health objectives or the broader alcohol taxation framework.</para>
<para>This is a very targeted measure. It's balanced and responsible. It's an intervention that applies specifically to individual containers of eight to 48 litres designed to connect to a pressurised gas pump or pump delivery system. These are the kegs that are used across the country in many of our pubs and clubs—for example, individual containers of more than 48 litres, which are the kegs used in commercial hospitality settings. We are making it easier for function spaces to cater for large crowds. With a million things on the go at the same time, these venues should be able to worry less about what they will charge for drinks or whether they have enough.</para>
<para>For two years, we are encouraging price stabilisation, building the trust between consumers and the local watering hole. Small business needs certainty in order to invest more in their operations. We are providing them with that certainty and reducing the number of sleepless nights spent calculating long-term profitability. When the excise does resume, in August 2027, it will resume at the frozen rate, not the higher rate that would have been applied had indexation continued. This will result in a permanent reduction in the duty trajectory.</para>
<para>This will have direct and indirect effects on groups across society. Firstly, we're making it easier for approximately 10,000 hospitality venues. Of these pubs, clubs, taverns and bars, about 75 per cent are small businesses. They are in our town venues, from Woodend to Bridge Inn Road, from Gisborne to Diamond Creek, Whittlesea, Beveridge and Wallan and everywhere in between.</para>
<para>The Albanese Labor government is committed to small business. These bills are the next tranche in that support, in line with our other commitments, such as providing $207 million over two years from this year to continue the stabilisation of Australia's business registers and undertake targeted uplifts. This includes: linking director identification numbers to the company register; cutting red tape by working with states and territories on national licensing for electrical trades; and streamlining commercial planning and zoning and removing barriers that inhibit the take-up of modern construction methods, which is backed by the $900 million National Productivity Fund.</para>
<para>Secondly, we are pushing for stability in the industry as a whole. Approximately 160,000 workers are employed in the hospitality sector, many relying on the viability of these businesses. We saw that when we were in Woodend talking to the hotel owners about the apprentices they were putting on and the great results they were getting. The first thing they said to us was: 'Clientele is dropping back. When things are a bit tight, people don't come in. As the cost of beer keeps going up, fewer of them do it.' So they were rapt when they saw that we were doing this. They know that what we are doing is putting our bit in to help them through the tougher times and to be with them all the way through. We want businesses to grow, employ more locals and expand their market share. But that's not all. Not only do these bills foster growth; they also protect against harm. In particular, this legislation protects venues against hikes in drink prices and protects local breweries from being bullied by the international ones.</para>
<para>So, first, we prevent cost increases. When the duty rates increase, the venues without a cushy profit margin must factor that into the cost of a pint. Expense costs go up for mum-and-dad owners who sleep in the residence upstairs and don't have other revenue streams, so they are forced to mark up their drinks. The consumer wears the cost increases, or they see the prices and choose not to go to a pub altogether.</para>
<para>Hospitality has an essential role to play in Australian communities, particularly the jobs they provide in regional areas. Our government is committed to protecting these jobs. Pouring and serving pints is a gateway for young adults to develop social skills, leadership abilities and professional experience. By mitigating the price increases we pass on to consumers we promote visitation at the local club or pub. By encouraging price stability we build trust between patrons and the places they go to relax and promote Australian jobs.</para>
<para>Second, we prevent local breweries from going under. Similarly, by pausing the automatic CPI indexation, we make it easier for local brewers to grow in the Australian draught beer market. Emerging local breweries face an uphill battle. Without the reputational advantage the bigger companies enjoy, it's much harder to get tap space at pubs. By pausing the excise on draught beer, we give our bars financial breathing room. This allows them to offer a wider range of options and gives more Australian owned breweries footholds in our bars. Here, we are giving local breweries and publicans a chance to grow their businesses. This will have tangible and far-reaching effects across Australia, particularly in the regions, peri-urban towns and suburbs.</para>
<para>In our community, hospitality jobs provide many of the skills that set young people up for adulthood. Behind the bars of our clubs and pubs, many young adults learn to manage tasks quickly and to work as a professional team—not to mention the timeless art of pouring the perfect pot or pint. But, when there aren't enough workers to meet demand, it can be overwhelming, with the physicality of carrying trays and cleaning floors, the mental challenge of catering for so many people at the same time and sometimes dealing with less courteous patrons. The pause on CPI indexation will reduce the strain faced by hospitality workers while putting our pubs and clubs in a position to put more hands on deck.</para>
<para>We're enhancing the community experience. Pubs and clubs are a community focal point. These venues are meeting places for old friends or where families go for a good dinner. They host everything—pub trivia nights, stand-up open mics and end-of-season sporting functions. They sponsor the local footy team or the local netball team and host barbecues and raffles for charities. These places bring members of a community together. These places have a special, binding effect. Over a beer, people make friends, find partners and become part of a social group. In the digitised world, with more and more interactions behind the screen, community venues are a place of connection, and they deserve our support.</para>
<para>With a pause in the custom duty rates, not only will people walk into their local watering hole; they will travel further to seek these experiences out. If we protect our local venues, we can help them become destinations for domestic and international visitors. Take it from the Restaurant and Catering Association. According to them, more premium, domestically reduced products allow for a more vibrant, exciting dining scene that is more attractive to domestic and international tourists visiting Australia. We are helping not only hospitality but the broader tourism industry. Across Australia, we're inviting people to enjoy the vibrant and diverse experiences our venues have to offer.</para>
<para>These bills further support community venues by providing pricing stability. The Albanese Labor government will always stand up and advocate and legislate for the interests of workers and those doing it tough. These bills are consistent with our view that small business is the engine room of our economy. Supporting them is supporting our nation as a whole. We are legislating cheaper beers, more opportunities for local enterprises and better community experiences. Much like a nice beer, this policy is smooth, refreshing and pairs well—not with food but with our dedication to making a better country for all. I commend these bills to the House. Cheers!</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:18</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr McCORMACK</name>
    <name.id>219646</name.id>
    <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Labor's change with the Excise Tariff Amendment (Draught Beer) Bill 2025 and the associated bill, and the carry-on that they are putting to this debate, is little more than a political stunt. It doesn't address the cost-of-living crisis that Labor has forced upon everyday ordinary Australians. Those everyday ordinary Australians love a beer. They love a punt. Tomorrow is Melbourne Cup Day. I know there are some people in this place from the Greens political party who say 'nup' to the Cup. I say: 'Have a drink. Go, Buckaroo!'</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Hill</name>
    <name.id>86256</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>It's a hot tip!</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr McCORMACK</name>
    <name.id>219646</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>It is very much a hot tip; thank you, Member for Bruce. Get on it! If it wins, I hope it can alleviate some of—I won't say 'the debt crisis that you've forced upon us'. I always say, 'Gamble responsibly.' Don't ever gamble more than you can afford to lose. But what Labor is saying in this particular bill is ignoring the deeper issues with the alcohol excise system. I heard the member for McEwen say that, particularly for regional areas, our pubs are the heart and soul of our communities—or words to that effect. I very much agree with my learned friend in that regard. They are, and they're doing it tough. For generations since European settlement, pubs have been the lifeblood of those communities. Indeed, in early pioneering towns in the regions, often the pub was there first. The church might have come a little later, and then the racetrack. It was probably in about that order, or maybe the church and the racetrack were around the other way. But the pub was certainly first—the little local inn where they sold beer. It was very much the community centre and the focus of conversation and that is the way it, perhaps, should be.</para>
<para>In recent times in the Riverina we've had a few pubs doing it tough. The Royal Hotel was New South Wales's most popular licensed hotel name in 2025, but the Royal Hotel at Grong Grong—although it's now in the electorate of Farrer now, just outside the Riverina—recently looked as though it was going to shut until the local community got behind it. A local community has done that not just for Grong Grong but also for Illabo, where they secured the Longhorn Hotel. It was a community effort of a Riverina village coming together to save its watering hole. Not only there: they've done it at Henty as well.</para>
<para>These little taverns and bars can't afford to be lost in modernisation. Perhaps the licensee takes out the poker machines—the very valuable licence to print money—and takes them to Sydney, and takes with the licence with them. The pub shuts. Where do people go then, to have a bet, a beer or a conversation? It's good for mental health—it just is. It's the focal point of the community. Quite often, they're the sponsor of the local sporting teams. They're there, and they support so much and everything that is great about country living.</para>
<para>Fiona Hamilton, who was the Illabo Cooperative chairperson, described the pub there as the heartbeat of the village. This is what she had to say, and it is at the core of the reason why these hotels are so important: 'We all rely on the hotel for essential services including banking, bill payment and postage, staple pantry and food items, newspapers, snacks, coffee and a break for travellers, overnight accommodation for farm and rail workers and, most importantly, a place in which the whole community can enjoy each other's company over a beer and a meal.' The future of the hotel had been uncertain. The co-op came about and people chipped in and made sure that the pub remained open. Good on that community! It's in the Junee shire, and it makes such a difference to have the pub on the Olympic Highway. It includes accommodation, a post office and a small general store. It is open for business and trading. That little community has done very, very well to keep the pub open just like they have at Grong Grong and at Henty, and that's an important thing.</para>
<para>Across Australia, there are 4,337 hotels. They're all very well represented by Stephen Ferguson. He is someone who is a great advocate for the pubs, for what they do, for the role they play and for sensible drinking and gambling. Because that's what pubs are about. There are 731 taverns, 261 inns, 162 bars—there is a difference between all these watering holes—75 pubs and 562 others with names such as saloon, vault, GPO Sydney and, would you believe, the Cuckoo's Perch. That's according to the website pubrooms.com.au. Australia has eight different licensing jurisdictions. Why? I don't know—that's according to the website. There are many and varied categories of licensees. There are hotels, taverns, bars, off-licences, roadhouses, licensed restaurants and clubs. Those clubs that said Mr Ferguson represents benefit from his wisdom and his wise counsel. When he trawls the halls of parliament looking for the best deal for clubs, we should listen to him because he's a sensible, practical, pragmatic person. If the government were serious about the issues with the alcohol excise system, it would have advocated for a comprehensive review of the alcohol excise system, but it hasn't. They just haven't.</para>
<para>We welcome relief for pubs, clubs and beer drinkers. We do. We won't stand in the way of a cut to the beer tax, and that's obviously going to be something welcomed. I know the Prime Minister likes to tell everybody that he's got his own beer named after him, and good on Albo. I've actually had a sip of that particular brown ale, and it's pretty good, but let's be clear. This freeze delivers less than 1c of relief per pint. I'll say that again: less than 1c cent of relief per pint. That's enough to give Labor the headline of a cut to the beer tax. It's enough to give the PM a picture in the <inline font-style="italic">Tele </inline>or the <inline font-style="italic">Herald Sun</inline>, Australia's two most widely read newspapers, but it's just a headline. If Labor were serious about it, they'd have Treasury conduct a comprehensive review of the entire alcohol excise system, and I know that would be welcomed by those beer drinkers who, quite frankly, are paying too much for their beer.</para>
<para>I'll tell you the other thing that the government could do while they're at it: look into the money that they're losing through illegal cigarettes. I'm not a smoker myself. I never have been. I never will be. I know and I appreciate that Dr Freelander, who is in the chair, would very much have worries if the number of smokers went up, as I would too, because we see all the disadvantages of that for the health system and for the smokers themselves. But smokers are being forced, because of a cost-of-living crisis, to get their cigarettes under the counter through chop chop, through these illegal smokes which are absolutely coming into this nation in droves. Our state police forces are almost overwhelmed with the numbers that they are pulling up, particularly on the highways. It's the modus operandi for illegal trading for motorcycle gangs. Insurance companies are now not even wanting to insure shops next door to legal tobacco sellers, let alone the illegal tobacco sellers themselves, and this is a real problem because it's actually costing millions, perhaps even billions, in excise.</para>
<para>Back onto the subject at hand—we're talking about beer excise here—the measure will pause indexation of the beer excise for a couple of years, but it does nothing about inflation in the cost of everything, including beer. Just the other day, inflation smashed through the Reserve Bank of Australia's target band. This means more expensive mortgages and dearer groceries, and that's a sad reality. The cause of high inflation is, as we know, Labor's reckless government spending. But what that government spending is not doing is investing in roads in regional Australia. Unfortunately, the Minister for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government—who is from a regional area, that being Ballarat—and the Minister for Regional Development, Local Government and Territories—and she's from Eden-Monaro—are not even looking at what they can do as far as making sure the right infrastructure spending is occurring in regional Australia. It's regional Australia that is hurting the most thanks to this government's reckless lack of interest and care for those people who do not live in the bright city lights of our capital cities.</para>
<para>This freeze applies only to on-premises draught beer, not bottled beer, packaged drinks or wine. Again, if Labor were serious about this issue, it would be looking at all parts of the excise system, not just selected, certain parts. Listen to Stephen Ferguson. He won't be here tomorrow. I'm sure he'll be at the Melbourne Cup—half his luck. I won't even talk—</para>
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<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Hill</name>
    <name.id>86256</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>What was the horse again?</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr McCORMACK</name>
    <name.id>219646</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Buckaroo. I'm saying Buckaroo, just for the record, for the member for Bruce—only because he interjected on me. Get on it.</para>
<para>But the cause of high inflation is, as I say, the reckless government spending. It's running at more than four times the rate of the economy.</para>
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<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>265979</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Order!</para>
<para>Debate interrupted.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
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    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>ADJOURNMENT</title>
        <page.no>124</page.no>
        <type>ADJOURNMENT</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>International Relations, National Rugby League: Papua New Guinea</title>
          <page.no>124</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:30</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr HASTIE</name>
    <name.id>260805</name.id>
    <electorate>Canning</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The great game is on: strategic competition, tariffs, quotas, subsidies—President Xi and President Trump are the figureheads of this new contest, but there are deeper structural forces at work, and China and the US have adopted a form of mercantilism, as both countries seek to build their national wealth and strategic power from a positive balance of trade. That's why we see an increase in industrial policy, tariffs and technological protectionism from both countries. The bottom line is that we're seeing the growth of state-directed capitalism as US led globalisation slowly breaks down and countries seek to secure their economic interests using all elements of their national power.</para>
<para>China's Belt and Road Initiative is a case in point. Their BRI program is designed secure their expanding global influence through commercial agreements, and of particular interest are critical minerals and strategic assets like ports in Africa, Latin America and the Indo-Pacific region. A good example of a BRI agreement is the 99-year lease of the port of Hambantota in Sri Lanka. China now controls a port that straddles key sea lanes in the Indian Ocean and can stage elements of their blue-water navy as required. The AUKUS deal would look very similar from a Chinese perspective, with the US Navy basing submarines in Perth from 2027 onwards.</para>
<para>I think the challenge for Australia is to chart a course that secures our national interest without resorting to platitudes about a world of free trade and a rules based order that simply doesn't exist anymore. The Prime Minister's recent rare-earths deal with President Trump revealed a new realism in our foreign policy—ditto the government's ongoing support for AUKUS, albeit underfunded and behind schedule. The point is that we need more hard-headed thinking here in Canberra where we see the world as it is and not as we wish it to be.</para>
<para>I think this is an urgent priority for us in the Pacific island chain to our north, as China seeks greater influence with countries like Papua New Guinea, Vanuatu, Fiji and Solomon Islands. I think it's very clear that we cannot risk a Chinese deep-water port to our north. Now, there are many ways that we can avoid that, using our national power and influence to deepen our partnerships with our Pacific neighbours.</para>
<para>But tonight I want to add my support to the plan to introduce the Papua New Guinea Chiefs into the National Rugby League competition from 2028. I think this is a very important project that will build on our common love of the game of Rugby League and join our nations in the great endeavour of sport.</para>
<para>I spent time in Papua New Guinea with the ADF in Port Moresby and Lae, and I was struck by two things. The first was the common Christian heritage that our nations share. I recall sitting on sentry duty in the jungles of Lae during my patrol course, listening to the local villagers singing hymns on a Sunday during their worship service. I can still remember the rain coming down softly, as those beautiful voices travelled through the foliage carrying the melody of Wesleyan hymns. I think that common Christian heritage is very powerful, as it acts as an immediate cultural bridge when you meet people. I knew what a local chieftain meant when he told us that he was a steward of God's creation and that we were welcome on his land.</para>
<para>The second thing that struck me was Papuans' deep love of Rugby League. You can't go far without seeing a reference to the National Rugby League competition. Returning from a patrol in Lae, we saw one bloke walking down a quiet road all by himself dressed in New South Wales blue State of Origin kit. He got a massive shout-out from the boys in the truck. I think it's very clear that we have a deep connection through that sport.</para>
<para>I was reminded of this over the weekend in Perth, when I took my son, Jonathan, to a friend's birthday party. The father hosting us is Papuan and played Rugby League, and we spent time reminiscing about the NRL greats from the nineties.</para>
<para>I have a love of the game, too. Growing up in Sydney, I backed the Balmain Tigers and played for the Enfield Federals Rugby League Club in 1992 for the under-10s. We had a former South Sydney Rabbitohs first-grader as our coach, and he showed us how to play: tough tackles; quick hands; moving as one line in defence. Young Australians do learn a lot through sport.</para>
<para>So I am glad that we are starting the Papua New Guinea Chiefs in 2028. No doubt it will have its challenges, and it's a big financial investment—$600 million over a decade—for the Australian people. But, if we do this well, we can build a new institution with the Papuan people and deepen our partnership as neighbours.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Mental Health</title>
          <page.no>125</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:34</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms RYAN</name>
    <name.id>249224</name.id>
    <electorate>Lalor</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise tonight to laud the Albanese Labor government on their $1.1 billion commitment to bolster and strengthen the mental health support being provided across this country. I can't think of a more important issue than to support people when they are suffering from mental ill health.</para>
<para>To highlight how this is assisting in my electorate, I'm going to share with the House an announcement that was made in the neighbouring electorate of Gellibrand, in Point Cook, at the Point Cook Town Centre last week. This was to announce a perinatal mental health centre in partnership with the Gidget Foundation Australia. It was a proud moment for Melbourne's west to see something being done to support mums and dads in the incredibly exciting but often stressful and isolating time near birth. The statistics tell us that one in five women and one in 10 men report anxiety and depression during their parental journey. This government has committed $42.9 million to support another 20 of these centres nationally. They will make an extraordinary difference in the community of Wyndham and an extraordinary difference across the country.</para>
<para>Similarly, in the electorate of Lalor I visited our headspace recently. It was on World Mental Health Day that I managed a visit to headspace. It was an opportunity to meet the dedicated local team led by clinical services manager Priya Hastak and to see firsthand the incredible work they do every day to support young people in our community. Nationally, we've made a commitment of $72.7 million to headspaces. Locally, that's a $442,000 commitment to the headspace in my community. It's more than just a mental health clinic; it's a safe place, a local hub and a trusted part of our community fabric. The team there understands the unique character and challenges of Wyndham, one of the fastest-growing and youngest areas in Australia. The team works closely with welfare teams in local schools, with community organisations and with families to identify and support young people before challenges escalate to a point where clinical intervention is required. The comradeship and professionalism within the team were evident and gave me confidence—a group deeply connected to the community that they serve. I want to specifically acknowledge and thank the Werribee team for their compassion, skill and commitment to the wellbeing of the young people in Lalor.</para>
<para>This is a government, the Albanese Labor government, that recognises that youth mental health must be a national priority, and this is why Assistant Minister for Mental Health and Suicide Prevention Emma McBride announced that $72.7 million investment. It's also why she was with me in Point Cook making the announcement for the Gidget regarding the other centre that I spoke about. This funding, the $72.7 million, will provide additional staff to reduce wait times in headspaces; fund new group and single session therapy programs; deliver capital infrastructure upgrades to make centres safer and more welcoming; and expand inclusive programs for First Nations young people, LGBTIQA youth and those from culturally and linguistically diverse backgrounds. On top of that commitment, we are also doing 50 Medicare mental health hubs around the country. This is a government absolutely committed to putting the planks in place to support people wherever they live in this country. Under the former Liberal government, services like headspace were left to do more with less. Waitlists grew, workforces struggled and community like Lalor were overlooked. The Albanese Labor government is reversing that neglect by investing, rebuilding and delivering services close to home.</para>
<para>For local families, it means shorter wait times and better access to support right in my community. For our schools, it means stronger partnerships with mental health professionals who know their students and their circumstances. I can't stress enough how important that is and how pleasing it was to hear that our headspace was connecting directly with our local schools and with teachers and welfare teams who know the young people very closely and who can make those referrals in a really informed way. The headspace team at Werribee exemplifies what community based mental health care should look like: local, inclusive and deeply human.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Cook Electorate: Community Events, Awards and Honours</title>
          <page.no>125</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:40</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr KENNEDY</name>
    <name.id>267506</name.id>
    <electorate>Cook</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>First, I would like to pay tribute to Marie Simone, Lisa Black and the whole Sutherland Shire hospital fundraising team. Through Marie's leadership and generosity, they recently raised over $56,000 at a fantastic fundraiser I attended. The funds will go directly towards expanding Sutherland Shire's cancer centre. I thank Marie and everyone involved for what they're doing for our local community and our local hospital. But, while our community is stepping up, the same cannot be said for the federal government.</para>
<para>According to new figures just released by the department of health, Cook recorded the largest fall in GP bulk-billing rates anywhere in New South Wales. I'll repeat that. My electorate of Cook had the largest fall of bulk-billing rates anywhere in New South Wales, down 18.8 per cent since 2022. The Sutherland Shire has almost a quarter of a million residents, yet we have no Commonwealth funded urgent care clinics, and we only have two bulk-billing GP clinics in the entire Sutherland Shire to service 250,000 people. When families in my electorate are told they would pay less to see a doctor, it is simply not true. They're reaching for their credit cards just to access basic care, and it's going up. It shouldn't take a charity or a fundraiser to keep local health services strong in the Sutherland Shire, but thank goodness for Marie Simone and her generosity, because it stands in stark contrast to a government that's failing the Sutherland Shire or wilfully overlooking it.</para>
<para>The same spirit of contribution was on full display recently at Gunnamatta Park on National Tree Day. I joined local volunteers who planted over 400 native trees and shrubs, helping restore one of the Sutherland Shire's most beautiful spaces. It was inspiring to see families, students and retirees all working side by side. Bushcare is a grassroots environmental stewardship organisation—just ordinary people, local residents, rolling up their sleeves to create something lasting. Every tree planted that morning helped us achieve a healthier Sutherland Shire for the next generation.</para>
<para>Another success story from my local community comes from Taren Point—the New Era Group, a homegrown business that has achieved national recognition. At the 2025 National Electrical and Communications Association excellence awards, the New Era Group won the Industrial Large Project of the Year for their outstanding work on the Parramatta light rail stabling yard. Congratulations to them. This project involved designing and installing and commissioning complex electrical and data systems that underpin the entire operation of the light rail network—the kind of quiet excellence that makes major infrastructure possible. To be judged the best in Australia is a remarkable achievement and a reflection of the skill and dedication of their local team. I congratulate them for flying the flag of Cook and for the strength of the Sutherland Shire's trades and small business community. Well done.</para>
<para>Finally, I would like to draw the House's attention to an issue of national conscience. The Ramsgate-Rockdale RSL sub-branch, with the support of RSL New South Wales, has written to me. They are looking to secure the recognition of approximately 2½ thousand national servicemen who served in Vietnam. These men did not volunteer. They were called upon by their government, by their country. They left behind families and careers. They served their country with courage and distinction. Yet many were never awarded the Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal because of a technicality. They fell just short of the 181-day service requirement and were never awarded this medal. I call on the government to fix this travesty. These men faced the same dangers, endured the same hardships and put their lives at risk for their country, for their families and for the betterment of our society. This is about fairness and good faith. I call on the government to exercise its discretion, which it can. Justice demands it, and there is precedent for doing so. Award these men and women the Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal. They deserve that much.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Paterson Electorate: Natural Disasters</title>
          <page.no>126</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:44</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms SWANSON</name>
    <name.id>264170</name.id>
    <electorate>Paterson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>This year has tested the people of Port Stephens, Maitland and the wider Hunter like few others in recent memory. In January, our region was hit by a powerful and destructive storm system that tore through homes, farms and businesses. Thousands were left without power, roads were blocked, trees were torn down and, in some areas, entire streets were under water. Both Port Stephens and Maitland were declared natural disaster areas. Then, in May, it happened again. Heavy rain and flash flooding inundated parts of Port Stephens and Maitland, from Morpeth to Williamtown, closing schools and cutting off local roads. It came on top of months of recovery work still underway from the January system, compounding the strain on families, councils and emergency services.</para>
<para>And this was all set against the backdrop of the 70th anniversary of the 1955 Maitland flood, which saw terrible loss of life, incredible destruction and loss of livestock and was in fact so horrific that it was the first major natural disaster to ever be televised. It also bore the New South Wales State Emergency Service. We stopped to reflect on those 70 years, only to be inundated and flooded again, and the trauma of 1955 was certainly brought back for many of our elderly residents as well.</para>
<para>While the two events that we had in January and May this year were the major ones, we also experienced further weather events in early June and again in August. Torrential rain, relentless wind and widespread flooding reminded us that our region is no stranger to extreme weather. I suppose, when you're called the Hunter Valley, you do expect to get a lot of water coming through the topography of our region. But it was certainly a testing time.</para>
<para>Through all of this, one thing has stood out above all else: the resilience, the heart and the strength of local communities. Neighbours checked in on each other. The SES, the RFS, community volunteers and countless others worked tirelessly around the clock. Local businesses stepped up to support recovery efforts, offering food, shelter and supplies. I saw firsthand the way communities in Port Stephens and Maitland banded together, with people helping people, often before help could arrive. It's what makes our region so special—those incredible people, who are so pragmatic and practical.</para>
<para>But, while our communities are strong, the impact has been immense. Homes are still being repaired. Roads are still being fixed. Farmers are still clearing up fencing and counting the costs. We're rebuilding, and there's still work to be done, but we are getting on with the job.</para>
<para>Our local councils have been incredible partners in this effort. Port Stephens Council and Maitland Council worked hand in glove with the New South Wales government and the Albanese Labor government to access disaster recovery funding, repair vital infrastructure and support local residents and businesses. Together, we're delivering real, practical help where it's needed, fixing roads, restoring essential services and making our communities even more resilient for the future.</para>
<para>We also have to talk about what's driving this. The sheer frequency and intensity of these weather events, not just in my electorate but right across Australia, remind us how unpredictable and challenging our environment can be. We're seeing more severe storms, heavier rainfall and longer recovery periods, and our communities are the ones that are on the front line. It's a reminder of how important it is that we plan carefully.</para>
<para>I want to take a moment to thank both Minister Kristy McBain and Minister Julie Collins for the immediate support for the Paterson electorate. We have been investing in stronger local infrastructure, like the M1, which is finally being built after years of promises. Now we as the Labor government are delivering it.</para>
<para>As the member for Paterson, I couldn't be prouder of what we're doing, but also I say thank you to our community. Thanks for your resilience and strength. We know there's another storm season and fire season heading our way, as January will soon roll around. I say to people: thank you for being prepared and thank you for looking out for each other. Paterson is a remarkable community, and I couldn't be prouder to represent it in this place.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Energy, Roads</title>
          <page.no>127</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:49</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr HOGAN</name>
    <name.id>218019</name.id>
    <electorate>Page</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Cheaper, better, fairer—that's the plan that we announced on the weekend as the National Party. It's a very important issue that we all know. It deals with emissions reductions and our commitment to emissions reductions, and, also, because of that, it feeds into a whole lot of areas and issues within our economy—not least of all is energy.</para>
<para>What we have at the moment is that the government is committed to net zero 2050. What that means is quite aggressive emission reduction targets—more than many, many countries. I'll tell you three countries that aren't committed to net zero 2050: China, India and the US. Why do I say those three countries? Because they're the biggest emitters that we have in the world. Australia could literally shut down tonight—we could turn off every light; we could shut down every industry—and, as a country that only has between one per cent and two per cent of total global emissions, we would not change the temperature of the globe at all. This is a global issue that needs a global solution. Yes, as Australia, as the Australian economy, as a sovereign nation, we need to do our part. But what's happening, as we race ahead and are putting mandates on that mean we will race ahead of many other countries in emission reductions, is we are exporting industries, we are exporting wealth and we are exporting jobs to other countries. This has to be unacceptable to everyone in this chamber.</para>
<para>Why do I say that? Because the evidence is in the paper almost every week. We've had the nickel industry in Western Australia, which has been completely shut down. We had Tomago just last week, in New South Wales, the aluminium smelter, which looks like it's going to shut down in two or three years time, and I'll tell you why. It cannot get an energy contract that makes it competitive. We've had about seven or eight bailouts as well, in the last few months, of major industries around Australia—in Whyalla, in Port Pirie, in Hobart and in other major regional centres—where the companies have gone to the government asking for bailouts, often in the realm of hundreds of millions of dollars.</para>
<para>What this tells you is we have a major issue in this country with competitiveness. We have major issues in this country in relation to being able to have these industries survive. Again, I think it's all linked back to things like the safeguard mechanism and other things, which are making these industries and our energy bills uncompetitive.</para>
<para>It has to be fixed. Again, what I love about our plan is we have emission reduction aims. What we've done is pegged it to emission reductions of like-minded economies and countries, those being the OECD countries. We didn't even put countries like China and India into that mix, or that formula, because, if we did, we could put emissions up. China's emissions go up every year more than Australia's total emission output. Just get your head around that in the sense of what impact we have in the bigger picture of this. What we've said is, 'As a responsible sovereign nation, we should do carbon emission reductions like like-minded economies and like-minded countries—being the OECD.' We would benchmark our reductions to the actual reductions of those countries.</para>
<para>What we believe will happen from there is we will maintain a competitiveness with energy prices. Policies like the safeguard mechanism, which is effectively a carbon tax on big companies here in Australia—those uncompetitive practices would not happen, which, very importantly, would keep those jobs and those industries in Australia. I'm very excited about that. I'm very excited now to have a mature debate about this in this country so that the Australian public can have an alternative to this commitment to net zero 2050.</para>
<para>I want to conclude by lamenting that the Labor government wants to drop the default country road speed limit from 100 kilometres an hour to 70 kilometres an hour across regional Australia. Instead of fixing our roads, they just want us to all drive slower—be slower when we have an emergency, be slower getting to work—adding extra cost to regional Australia for the times for things to get around our regional communities. It's a disgrace from this government.</para>
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          <title>Briffa, Father John, SDB, OAM</title>
          <page.no>128</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:54</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr MONCRIEFF</name>
    <name.id>316540</name.id>
    <electorate>Hughes</electorate>
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  <para>I'm a proud Bosco boy, and in October the Bosco and the broader Engadine-Heathcote community lost a treasured member of our community and an icon of our history. Father John Briffa SDB, OAM, who passed in the late hours of Wednesday 22 October, founded two of the great institutions of Engadine and Heathcote: St John Bosco High School and John Paul Village.</para>
<para>Father John Briffa had been a part of Engadine life since 1964. He first came to Engadine as the resident priest at Boys Town, now the Dunlea Centre, and he became the parish priest at St John Bosco Parish in 1968. Father Briffa was someone who listened to the community's needs and took actions to meet them. He arrived at a time when Engadine and its surrounding suburbs were much less developed. He quickly identified the greatest challenges for Engadine: a lack of aged-care facilities and no local Catholic high school. Members of the parish were placing elderly relatives in care in other parts of Sydney, and students were travelling out of Engadine for high school to receive Catholic education. Father Briffa took action, and he started institutions that have grown beyond anyone's imaginings.</para>
<para>One of Father Briffa's most enduring legacies is the high school at which I had the privilege to learn. St John Bosco College, originally St John Bosco High School, was founded in 1978 under the initiative of the parish of St John Bosco and under Father Briffa's leadership. When he arrived, the parish, the school system and the aged-care services were all in various states of growth, but he quickly understood that this was a community in need of strong, cohesive institutions and a sense of belonging.</para>
<para>Bosco is a very important part of my life. I was baptised and confirmed there and I went to school there. The library in the school is named for Father Briffa, in recognition of what he contributed to it. He did not build so that his name would be on the wall; he built so future generations could stand on firm ground. He did not simply open a school; he saw it as a family, a community and something that prepared young people not only for exams but for life. The Salesian ethos emphasises that education is not simply about curriculum but about relationships, pastoral care and opportunity. The school's motto, 'Gaudium et spes', meaning 'joy and hope', reflects Father Briffa's vision of a school being more than a place for knowledge gain.</para>
<para>Father Briffa also saw to the needs of older members of our community. In 1985, the parish of St John Bosco in Engadine, under his leadership, opened John Paul Village in Heathcote, a retirement and aged-care village conceived to meet a local need for seniors to live with dignity in their community. Father Briffa had been taking calls from parishioners seeking somewhere for themselves and their elderly parents to live. A chance meeting with a Uniting Church minister, Reverend Keith Biddle, saw the two churches join forces. Forty years on, the village, now operated by St Vincent's Care, is still serving the community. Today it's home to more than 400 residents in aged-care rooms and independent living units.</para>
<para>I was fortunate enough to attend the ruby anniversary spring fair for John Paul Village a few weeks ago, in October. Father Briffa was the guest of honour at the celebration of the ruby jubilee mass for the foundation of John Paul Village. The mass was also attended by the Premier of New South Wales, Chris Minns. When I knew Father Briffa, he was the chaplain of John Paul Village, a position he took up in 2001. He was still serving the community that he'd started all those years ago.</para>
<para>Father Briffa knew the parish as a community. He recognised that young and old people alike needed place, purpose and care, and he helped build the infrastructure that framed that vision. For Engadine and Heathcote, this was transformative. He acted when he saw a need. The aged-care village was born because seniors in the parish had nowhere local to go. The school was born because the community needed a Catholic secondary option. He combined vision with concrete steps.</para>
<para>I give thanks tonight for Father John Briffa's life, his service, his humility and his steadfast dedication. His work remains visible in the classrooms where students learn, in the aged-care village where seniors live and in the parish gatherings that remember him. Father Briffa often said: 'These are my people. This is the family that God gave me.' I am deeply inspired by the power of his local initiatives and the role community leadership plays when it is grounded in compassion and when we hold the aim of the kind of community he forged—one that welcomes, supports, challenges and allows each generation to inherit a strong sense of community and belonging. The return on education from Bosco, the benefits of care from John Paul Village and the community that remains—these are multigenerational. For us in public life, that reminder is vital. We invest today for people not yet born.</para>
<para>Father Briffa's passing at the age of 97 marks the end of an era for Bosco, but it's an era that invites reflection on the legacy of education, justice, care and community building that continues to bear fruit. Father Briffa's funeral will be held tomorrow, Tuesday 4 November, at 10 am. God bless the soul of Father Briffa, a man who lived the gospel and built communities that will carry his legacy for many years to come. May he rest in peace.</para>
<para>House adjourned at 20:00</para>
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        <page.no>129</page.no>
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          <page.no>129</page.no>
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          <title>Battle of Leyte Gulf: 81st Anniversary</title>
          <page.no>130</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:30</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms LE</name>
    <name.id>295676</name.id>
    <electorate>Fowler</electorate>
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  <para>As we approach Remembrance Day, it is a time for all of us to pause and reflect on the many stories of courage that have shaped our shared history. One such story is that of the Leyte Gulf landing, a defining moment that changed the course of the Indo-Pacific War and marked the beginning of the liberation of the Philippines. Eighty-one years ago, in October 1944, Filipino, American and Australian allied forces, fighting side by side, launched one of the largest naval operations of the Second World War. Australia played an integral role in the Leyte Gulf landing as part of the combined allied forces, providing a significant portion of the naval firepower for the close support group and landing troops and conducting vital reconnaissance. The Royal Australian Navy, including heavy cruisers and landing ships, fought in the naval battles, and Australian personnel also supported the invasion by providing communication and intelligence capabilities. Their courage, unity and sacrifice restored hope to millions and reignited the light of freedom after years of hardship.</para>
<para>I joined the Filipino Australian community in October as it came together at the Visayan Association of Australia's Liberation Day Ball at the Liverpool All Saints Catholic hall to commemorate that historic day. It was a moving reminder of how faith, resilience and solidarity can prevail even in the darkest of times. It was an honour to join so many proud members of the Visayan community—people who continue to live out those same values here in Australia. Through cultural programs, community service and the unbreakable spirit of bayanihan, Filipino Australians ensure that their legacy of the Leyte, of courage, perseverance and freedom, continues to inspire future generations.</para>
<para>Across Fowler in south-west Sydney, Filipino Australians are an integral part of our community, working in our hospitals, schools, small businesses and churches. Their compassion and dedication strengthen the very fabric of our society and remind us of the best of what it means to be Australian. Events like this also remind us of the power of heritage and the importance of coming together. Whether through celebrating cultural milestones or supporting one another in everyday life, the Visayan community enriches our local story and contributes to the vibrant multicultural heart of our region.</para>
<para>I want to sincerely thank President Jhun Salazar and organisers of this beautiful evening for their leadership and commitment to keeping history alive. As we prepare to mark Remembrance Day, let us carry forward the lessons of Leyte: unity in purpose, strength in diversity and service to others. May we always honour those who fought for freedom by building stronger, more connected communities here at home. Lest we forget.</para>
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          <title>Braddon Electorate: Wynyard Tulip Festival, Braddon Electorate: Penguin</title>
          <page.no>130</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:33</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms URQUHART</name>
    <name.id>231199</name.id>
    <electorate>Braddon</electorate>
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  <para>Despite wild weather in the lead-up to the event, the skies cleared just in time and the community turned out in force with gumboots on and spirits high for the 2025 Tulip Festival in Wynyard. This festival began in 1991, born from the pride the Wynyard community felt in the breathtaking beauty of the region. What started as a small local celebration has blossomed, quite literally, into a nationally recognised event, drawing tens of thousands of visitors each year. Over the past 33 years, we've seen the festival grow in scale and significance, with only one pause in 2020 due to COVID, which is an amazing result. Last year alone, Wynyard welcomed an estimated 20,000 people. That's a testament to the enduring appeal of the festival and the tireless work of the Waratah-Wynyard Council, staff, volunteers and stallholders, who make it all happen. This year's festival was made even more special by the presence of guest ambassadors <inline font-style="italic">MasterChef</inline> runner up from Smithton, Josh "Pezza" Perry, and Hannah Moloney, a host of ABC TV's <inline font-style="italic">Gardening Australia</inline>. Here's to 33 years of the Wynyard Tulip Festival, and I look forward to seeing everyone again in 2026 for the 34th year!</para>
<para>A week ago I attended a birthday party. That's not all that revolutionary; however, this was a combined 150th birthday for the township of Penguin and 50th birthday for the giant three-metre high penguin that sits on the foreshore. The town of Penguin, nestled beside the sea on the north-west coast in Braddon, had the biggest and best birthday party that I've ever been to. The Penguin 150 Street Party was the highlight of the year of festivities to celebrate the birthday of the town. There was live music, food stalls, local markets, entertainment and a lot of community spirit, capped off with a fabulous show of fireworks. The main street was closed off so it was safe to roam, and the street was abuzz with crowds, prams, children, dogs and people enjoying the sunshine and the atmosphere. For the occasion, Australia Post developed a special stamp collection with the Big Penguin and a specially minted dollar coin with the Big Penguin on the face.</para>
<para>A huge congratulations goes to the committee members, the volunteers, the performers, the stallholders and everyone who worked so hard to make all of the wonderful events such a success. I echo the words of many who spoke: this is all about community. It's about knowing and watching out for your neighbours. The events this year really let the spirit of this fabulous little community shine through. I want to again congratulate the small community of volunteers who worked really hard to put on such a fabulous event for not just the Penguin town but the entire north-west region.</para>
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          <title>Grey Electorate</title>
          <page.no>131</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:36</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr VENNING</name>
    <name.id>315434</name.id>
    <electorate>Grey</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The lower Eyre Peninsula is the only place in Australia with comparable population or economic output that doesn't have doppler radar coverage. The importance of radar and accurate near-real-time and real-time forecasting cannot be overstated. Sure, it's important for individuals but also for: agriculture, where we have some of the most productive land in the country; fishing, where Port Lincoln is called home by the Southern Hemisphere's largest fishing fleet; tourism, like international yacht races in Boston Bay; rocket launching, a growing industry at Whalers Way; and, importantly, emergency services, helping us mitigate what we saw in 2005 when nine people were killed. While I thank Minister Watt's office for their constructive engagement on this issue, we must not delay this any further. Finally, I want to thank Trevor Smith, Ryan Viney, Ken Webber and Sam Telfer MP for their continued advocacy. The time for radar is now.</para>
<para>Last month, on Rural Women's Day, we celebrated the backbone of our regional communities—the rural women who hold our towns together. It was a privilege to attend Rural Women's Day celebrations at Orroroo, celebrating the contributions of our local women. Last week, I met with locals Stephanie March from MERCI CO, Alex Thomas from Plant a Seed for Safety and Nikki Atkinson from Liv Sienne Fashion here in Parliament House. It was amazing to have women like this stand up and fight for regional and rural health care. We don't need the world's best access; we just want equity.</para>
<para>The stories of these incredible women hit hard. Stephanie's son has a rare chronic disease, requiring constant travel to the city for care, putting a constant strain on their entire family on the Yorke Peninsula. Alex faced an impossible choice when her late father fell through the cracks in regional health care: either switch off his dialysis or move to the city. That's a choice no daughter should face. These aren't just statistics; these are the daily realities our regional, rural and remote communities face. Steph and Alex are doing their part to stand up for people in regional SA, and it's time our government does the same.</para>
<para>Grey is an electorate full of rich history. I witness this every time I visit one of our hundreds of towns, but recently a few have hit significant milestones I would like to acknowledge. The Booleroo Centre marked its 150th birthday milestone in early October. The town's agricultural heritage remains a prominent part of its identity, and it's still an important service centre for world-leading agriculture industry. Orroroo also celebrated their 150th in October. This proud town has been a cornerstone of our region's pastoral story, serving as a vital hub for surrounding communities. And Blyth celebrated 150 years only yesterday, hosting a successful community event. For a century and a half, Blyth has supported generations of farming families. These milestones remind us that our towns aren't just dots on a map. They're communities with stories worth celebrating.</para>
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          <title>Cybersafety</title>
          <page.no>131</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:39</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms THWAITES</name>
    <name.id>282212</name.id>
    <electorate>Jagajaga</electorate>
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  <para>There are some important changes coming up soon as a result of our government's reform to make children safer online. I want to take this opportunity to talk about what these changes mean for parents, guardians and, of course, young people across our community and the country. From December, social media platforms will be required to prevent Australians under 16 from creating or keeping social media accounts. This is something that is of huge interest to many communities, including those in Jagajaga, and I want to take this opportunity to speak directly to parents and young people in our community.</para>
<para>Firstly, what is actually changing? Social media platforms will have to ensure under-16s cannot hold accounts. Children will still be able to view some public content, but they won't have full accounts and platforms will be held accountable if they don't apply these changes. This is a change that is about safety and responsibility. It's about making sure that we are not taking childhood away from young people, who should be protected. It really comes about because there has been a failure of the social media platforms to do this properly—to take their social responsibility seriously. We have essentially allowed them to conduct a giant social experiment, and at many points they have shown that they did not take social responsibility seriously, and we have seen the consequences of that.</para>
<para>It's not unusual for government to step in and regulate if we see an industry that's doing harm to young people. We've done it with alcohol and we've done it with tobacco, and now we're doing it with social media. Importantly, under-16s or their parents will not be fined or penalised if they use or allow the use of a platform. The responsibility for this lies on the platforms, as it should.</para>
<para>I want to pay tribute to the parents across the country who have campaigned for this change, and I know that they've campaigned because their children have been affected in ways that they absolutely should not have been. This is a tribute to you and your work. As a parent myself, I know that this is an opportunity to have real conversations with our kids about healthy online habits, managing screen time and understanding the pressure social media can bring.</para>
<para>I also want to acknowledge that there are legitimate concerns from young people, who have come to me and others and said that they use social media well and that they use it to connect. This is not to say that that doesn't happen; it is to say that the vast majority of the evidence shows us that social media platforms have been harmful for young people. What we are saying is: it's not 'no social media forever', but it is 'no social media at this critical stage while you're still developing and you're still forming your brain and your relationships'.</para>
<para>I give my commitment to young people in my community that I'll continue to talk to them as we implement this change. Our government have prepared a range of materials to help explain these changes to young people and to schools. My office in Heidelberg will have information available, and I also encourage people to go to the eSafety Commissioner, a trusted resource, for more information.</para>
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          <title>Monash Electorate: Community Events</title>
          <page.no>132</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:42</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms ALDRED</name>
    <name.id>11788</name.id>
    <electorate>Monash</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>'Here if you need'—that should be the motto of the Monash electorate, and it was certainly a call that was put out loud and clear at the recent launch of the Warragul and District Netball Association's summer competition. I was so pleased to be able to launch it recently with Karen Romano, the president; Meaghan Romano, who runs the NetSetGo program for young up-and-coming players; and the whole committee, who do such a fantastic job of encouraging players of all abilities and from areas across west Gippsland to get involved. There were about a thousand players on that launch evening—70 umpires, who do a terrific job, and around 150 teams. Over the 57-year history of the club, they've never seen more interest or more enthusiasm, and I want to take this opportunity to congratulate the Warragul and District Netball Association on an amazing launch.</para>
<para>I also want to congratulate and encourage the tremendous work that community kitchens and food banks do across the Monash electorate. I volunteer from time to time at Frankies Community Kitchen, which is such a great initiative, led by a number of people, including Luke Hagel, who is an accomplished chef in his own right. I cracked a few hundred eggs on my last shift, but there's good company and good tunes played in that kitchen, and an amazing team of volunteers. From Longwarry to Warragul to Corinella, all of the community food banks do such a good job. I know the demand for your services is going up and up, and I want to commend the incredible work that you do.</para>
<para>I also had the shadow minister for health and aged care, Senator the Hon. Anne Ruston, in Warragul recently to do a number of visits. We had an aged-care forum. We went to Trafalgar Football Netball Club to look at their change rooms and also met with local government. Aged care is an incredibly important issue in my electorate of Monash, and I will stand by older Australians, their families and carers to make sure that choice and respect is at the heart of every decision they're able to make.</para>
<para>West Gippsland recently had its first Diwali celebration. I still have the henna tattoo to prove that I was there. It was a wonderful celebration. I want to commend the local Indian community across the Monash electorate, from West Gippsland through to the Bass Coast Malayalee Association. Thank you for all that you bring to our community. Diwali was a vibrant and joyous occasion that I was deeply honoured to be invited to participate in.</para>
<para>I also want to talk about the terrible impost of the illegal tobacco trade. We need to be much stronger on the front foot— <inline font-style="italic">(Time expired)</inline></para>
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          <title>Australia Indonesia Youth Exchange Program</title>
          <page.no>132</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:45</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr WATTS</name>
    <name.id>193430</name.id>
    <electorate>Gellibrand</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>With apologies to the Jakarta Bintangs, but the Krakatoas Football Club is the best named Aussie Rules team in the world. I was delighted to join them on a training run on the weekend with delegates from the Australia Indonesia Youth Exchange Program. AIYEP is more than 40 years old and connects Australian and Indonesian youth for social, professional and cultural exchange. Each year, 42 delegates from Australia and Indonesia become immersed in each other's countries. They grow their intercultural skills, international networks and professional capabilities, and we're very pleased to host it in Melbourne this year.</para>
<para>All 21 delegates from Indonesia come from a different province, coming from as far west as Aceh to as far east as the Papuan provinces, reflecting the vast diversity of that country. Given that the median age in Indonesia is just 30, this program is an important way to connect Australian and Indonesian leaders of the future. The 21 delegates from Indonesia are currently spending five weeks in Australia. This year's Indonesian delegates are hosted by generous host families and workplaces in Melbourne, and I'm delighted to be hosting one myself, in my electorate office in Melbourne, the lovely Petra. We've already learned so much from each other, and she has brought fantastic energy and enthusiasm to the office.</para>
<para>Petra would like me to tell our parliament:</para>
<quote><para class="block">I've really enjoyed living in Australia so far and the thing I love the most is living with my host family, sharing my Indonesian culture, and doing the internship at Tim Watts' Office in Melbourne.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">I've learned so much during my time here already and I will always be grateful for these experiences.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Thank you to the Australian and Indonesia government for providing this life-changing opportunity.</para></quote>
<para>There are plenty of people to thank for keeping a program like this operating for 40 years. Terima kasih to all the generous host families in both Australia and Indonesia, and a special shout-out to Kristy and Ryan Newham for hosting Petra in my community. Terima kasih to DFAT's Australia-Indonesia Institute and the Indonesian Ministry of Youth and Sports for their collaboration on funding and organising this program. Terima kasih to Value Learning for their expertise and dedication in delivering this program across Australia and Indonesia. Terima kasih to Angus Baranikow and the Australia-Indonesia Youth Association, Victoria chapter, for supporting the program and putting on a barbie during the training run on the weekend. And finally, a shout-out to the founder and president of the Krakatoas, Iain Shearer, and the whole Krakatoas Football Club—or as they would say in Indonesia, 'Tim Krakatoa'—and thanks for the training run. And to all of the delegates, let me say this: selamat datang di Melbourne. Nikmati kesempatan luar biasa ini. Dan semoga sukses selalu! Terima kasih to everyone involved; congratulations to them.</para>
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          <title>Young Entrepreneurs, Sandringham Primary School</title>
          <page.no>133</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:48</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
    <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
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  <para>We back Australians who back themselves, so it's wonderful to see in the Goldstein electorate a number of people who have been honoured in Australia's top 250 young entrepreneurs list. Each has demonstrated initiative, leadership, commitment to building businesses that contribute positively to our community and our economy, particularly those who start fresh, young and get on with it and create jobs and economic opportunities for themselves and for others.</para>
<para>Laura Henshaw is the co-founder and CEO of Keep It Cleaner. She is helping reshape how young Australians think about wellbeing and promoting balance, confidence and healthy habits through a supportive and inclusive community. David Kaplan is the co-founder of Willed, which is modernising end-of-life planning and helping families navigate important decisions with greater clarity and dignity. Mark Finn is the co-founder of ROLLER, a Melbourne-based software business supporting venues and attractions across Australia and internationally, improving customer experiences and enabling local businesses to grow. And Jack White is the co-founder of Cuttable, an emerging creative technology company helping Australian ecommerce brands reach new audiences with smarter, more efficient digital advertising tools. I suspect, Deputy Speaker Mascarenhas, you will want to use that one. These leaders reflect the strength of Victorian innovation: practical, values led and focused on real outcomes for real Australians. I congratulate them on their achievements, their entrepreneurship and the great work that they have done.</para>
<para>I want to congratulate Sandringham Primary School on its recent fate. There is no better way to spend a Saturday morning than helping those at the Sandringham Primary School fete set up. Of special note this year was they celebrated their 170th year. In February 2020, a devastating fire ripped through the school and it had to be rebuilt after nearly 60 per cent of it was destroyed. The Sandringham community came together to its aid, and I still remember carrying bits of furniture across the Sandringham Primary site on the day it happened to help set up for the new school year. For two years, they were displaced, so, of course, the welcome fete a few weeks ago was an exciting moment to be part of the continuing life of the school.</para>
<para>And now, five years on, the Sandringham Primary School has shone its brightest, celebrating its 170th year with a fate and its rebuilt rounds. The fete was not just a fundraiser but a testament to the school's enduring strength and community bond. With carnival rides, food, games and activities galore, every dollar raised helps to support staff and students at the school to continue its important work.</para>
<para>Congratulations to the huge group of parent volunteers who helped organise the day, principal Louise Neave for the wonderful job she does steering the school, assistant principal Jennifer Parsons, the alumni staff and students on a fantastic day. The weather was glorious, much fun was had by all but, more importantly, it brought the community together, connected them directly and made them a continuing part of school relationship. To them, we say: congratulations to you Sandringham Primary School.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Youth Voice in Parliament Week</title>
          <page.no>133</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:51</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms STANLEY</name>
    <name.id>265990</name.id>
    <electorate>Werriwa</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>This morning I would like to raise the voices of two young people in my community as part of the Raise Your Voice campaign. This is by Sabri:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Words are not enough; young Australians deserve action. It's very clear a better tomorrow requires the actions of great courage, fairness and vision. We must take bold optimistic and ambitious steps today for a hopeful tomorrow. Future Australians will judge us on not if we act but how we act as a country.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">A strong democracy relies on informed and active citizens. Civic education is a foundation of that choice, yet too many Australians leave school without truly understanding how our democracy works, the power of our vote in elections or how they can shape it for a better tomorrow. Governments must take steps to continue to strengthen and invest in teaching young minds on voting, elections, structure of government, role of leaders, and continue to provide students a platform to engage in parliament.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Civic education is not just about knowing we have a government; it's about empowering the next generation to think critically, to question and to participate in our democracy. A mandatory education syllabus on civic education across Australia would ensure that every young Australian, no matter their background, leaves school with the knowledge and skills to participate in democracy.</para></quote>
<para>Thanks, Sabri, for such a wonderful contribution.</para>
<para>The next contribution is from Anika:</para>
<quote><para class="block">If we want future generations to truly cherish their lives and feel fulfilled we must enabled equitable r education services. For any successful society, we must enable a range of different skill sets without any barriers or disadvantage to individuals. Too young people are facing barriers to education in a country where this should not dictate their futures. These obstacles can become overcome with governments.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Financial inequity or even location are modifiable factors that should never be a barrier for student to seek to gain knowledge and guarantee their future. Investing in education is a long-term investment for Australia, committing us to prosperity, wellbeing and equality across all different people. Giving every young Australian an equal opportunity sets us on the road to a meaningful future.</para></quote>
<para>Thank you to Sabri and Anika for your contributions. I very much enjoyed reading them to the House.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Hume Electorate: Tahmoor Colliery</title>
          <page.no>134</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:53</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TAYLOR</name>
    <name.id>231027</name.id>
    <electorate>Hume</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to speak about the Tahmoor Colliery, a coalmine that has supported generations of workers and families in my electorate of Hume, the future of which now hangs in the balance. About 400 people and many more service providers and contractors worked there, and it supported countless local and regional businesses right across the Wollondilly Shire and beyond. Recently, a decision was made to stand down 250 workers, around half the workforce, which was tough blow, not just for workers but for the families of any small businesses that rely on the mines. It is disappointing and, frankly, a line needs to be drawn in the sand.</para>
<para>For months the community has been patient—hopeful that GFG Alliance, the owner, would deliver on its promises, but patience has worn thin. GFG needs to be upfront about the future of Tahmoor now. As the local member I can't stand by and watch this continue. Last week I wrote to the mine's owner, Mr Sanjeev Gupta, and told him that enough is enough. Their management is not providing the stability, financial integrity or long-term certainty needed to keep the operations running. GFG needs to either restart the mine or sell it to someone who will. This mine is the heartbeat of our community—hundreds of jobs, local businesses and families depend on it.</para>
<para>Let's be honest. It didn't shut down because it wasn't profitable; the problem lies with financial issues in the broader GFG group. That's what's driven this outcome. Tahmoor is a good mine. It produces metallurgical coal—the kind that's essential for steelmaking—which goes by rail down to Port Kembla and a significant portion of it is used in the steel mill down there. It's a key link in that supply chain, supporting local jobs and our domestic steel industry. There are buyers out there. People are looking at this mine and saying: 'You can make money from this. There is no need for the workers to be stood down.'</para>
<para>The royalties from Tahmoor are important to the New South Wales government, and here's the thing. The mine doesn't need government subsidies. It's been operating for over 40 years and has a proud history in the region, as does coalmining more generally in the Burragorang Valley nearby. The miners just want to get back to work. They deserve better than what they're seeing now. We need a resolution and we need it quickly. The next step is simple: pay the workers, stabilise the operation and restore confidence. Tahmoor Colliery is a vital asset, not just for our region but for Australia's steel and resources industries. With the right leadership and investment I believe it can thrive again—creating jobs, supporting local businesses and delivering long-term benefits to the community.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Peters, Ms Joan, OAM</title>
          <page.no>134</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:56</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr LIM</name>
    <name.id>300130</name.id>
    <electorate>Tangney</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>When I first walked into the home studio of Tangney artist Joan Peters I saw a painting from her time in Iceland that caught my eyes. I was moved by the painting and could feel the coolness of the landscape. Joan, I'm proud to say, was a finalist for this year's Lester Prize of Portraiture. Her piece is titled <inline font-style="italic">D</inline><inline font-style="italic">rop</inline><inline font-style="italic">-</inline><inline font-style="italic">in</inline><inline font-style="italic">s</inline><inline font-style="italic"> with Marjorie</inline>, inspired by her conversations with Marjorie—a 97-year-old textile artist. Joan's accomplishment is even more impressive considering she is 75 years old and only started painting five years ago. Joan's life is one of passion and energy. She was born in Malacca and worked as a flight attendant, including as one of Singapore Airlines' inaugural Singapore Girls. She migrated to Perth in 1975. She was a single parent and has worked as a chef, sound recordist and film producer. She founded an international charity in Kenya. When she received a law degree, she became an entertainment lawyer. In 2022 she was awarded OAM for her contributions to the performing arts and film.</para>
<para>When Joan started losing her hearing, she picked up a paintbrush. She told me that this is the course of life and that, if she weren't deaf, she wouldn't have known she could paint. Joan paints her memories—for example her artist residency in Iceland or when she took her caravan and travelled across Western Australia alone. In December Joan will have a new exhibition in Fremantle called <inline font-style="italic">Sini Sana</inline>, which means 'here and there'. When I met with Joan we reflected on our childhoods. We shared that we have both grown up in a small village. Joan told me that, as she grew up, no-one put any limits on her or expectations that she had to go in one direction or the other. Her motto is to always say yes. She has said yes to so many opportunities and now she's saying yes to being one of Tangney's great artists. Thanks, Joan.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>298800</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>In accordance with standing order 193, the time for members' constituency statements has concluded.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS</title>
        <page.no>135</page.no>
        <type>PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Climate Change</title>
          <page.no>135</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:59</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms STEGGALL</name>
    <name.id>175696</name.id>
    <electorate>Warringah</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the Government's National Climate Risk Assessment highlights that climate change is costing the Australian economy more than $40 billion per year and this cost is predicted to rise to at least $73 billion, or 4 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP) by 2060; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) current policies to protect our communities from climate change remain inadequate with spending on climate resilience and adaptation remaining too low; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) calls on the Government to:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) lift climate adaptation spending to 0.25 per cent of GDP;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) establish a National Climate Adaptation Authority to oversee the implementation of the National Adaptation Plan;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) facilitate better funding for local governments to strengthen resilience against climate change within their communities;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) build strong private-public partnerships with the insurance industry that reduces underlying risk through enforceable, publicly funded resilience measures and transparent hazard data;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(e) ensure that climate resilience projects and measures are undertaken in collaboration with First Nations;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(f) broaden the safeguard mechanism to include all sectors across the economy are mitigating climate risks;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(g) further ensure that polluting companies pay the social and environmental cost of the carbon they emit; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(h) reform the Petroleum Resource Rent Tax to ensure Australians get their fair share from their resources.</para></quote>
<para>Climate change is already costing Australia more than $40 billion a year and, on our current path, that burden could climb to at least $73 billion, or some four per cent of GDP, by 2060. Mitigation must accelerate through rapid reduction of emissions. Ignoring the mounting risks for our communities is recklessly negligent. The status quo is leaving communities defenceless in the face of mounting risks and, too often, without the safety net of insurance. We must lift adaptation investment, make 'polluter pays' a reality and equip local communities with the tools to stay safe, insurable and prosperous.</para>
<para>Last Friday, I held a climate resilience emergency forum here in Parliament House. The forum gathered representatives from industry, academia, unions, government, think tanks, local councils and health to discuss the impact of the changing climate across our economy and, most importantly, how we can adapt and how we can pay for it. The cost of doing nothing far outweighs the cost of preparing for the future. In fact, delaying action will cost lives.</para>
<para>The current approach from the government is piecemeal, reactive and underfunded. Alongside other things, the motion calls on the government to invest a quarter of a per cent of GDP, or $4 billion, a year in climate adaptation. This investment will enable a triple dividend of climate adaptation to our economy and to Australia by avoiding losses from climate disasters, driving economic benefits, affordable insurance, new and better jobs and improved infrastructure and it will bring massive social and environmental gains.</para>
<para>The government's national climate risk assessment confirms that some climate risks are already baked in. The bill for inaction is mounting. The government currently invests only $250 million per year in adaptation, which is woefully inadequate. Traditional economic models understate the risks and the social and economic cost. The modelling from UNSW's Timothy Neal, who presented at the forum, warned us that outdated economic forecasting models have lulled policymakers and governments into complacency. Traditional economic forecasts only predict minor global GDP losses, but Professor Neal's work suggests the real damage could be as high as 40 per cent of global GDP by the end of the century on the current emissions reduction trajectory. Our national cost-benefit test must be updated.</para>
<para>Meanwhile, the insurance protection gap is widening, construction costs are higher and we continue to rebuild in high-risk areas without resilience and adaptation backed into rebuilding codes. Local governments, which are on the front line, are financially stretched, competing for short-term grants when what works is place based, long-term adaptation. We have the plans on paper. What's missing is the scale, certainty and accountability to deliver them.</para>
<para>The outcomes from Friday's forum are measured and economy-wide. They are calling for, firstly, predictable and adequate investment in adaptation by committing to $4 billion, or a quarter of a per cent of GDP, to offset the two per cent of GDP it's already costing us. This should be locked in over forward estimates. Secondly, they are calling for adaptive leadership that embeds climate resilience across our economy through a national climate adaptation authority to implement the forthcoming National Adaptation Plan, coordinate across jurisdictions and monitor implementation. Thirdly, they call for helping local governments with the cost of adaptation by lifting financial assistance grants from ½ a per cent to at least one per cent of Commonwealth taxation revenue, which is around $400 million per year, to ensure place based adaptation and implementation.</para>
<para>Fourthly, we need to invest in nature, as it is our greatest ally in adaptation and resilience, by updating nature based solutions. The fifth is on funding Indigenous land and sea management, which we know would deliver climate and social dividends. Sixthly, we also need to update our National Construction Code to embed resilience, expand cyclone and flood standards by risk, not postcode, and ensure transparent hazard data. It is incredibly concerning that the Albanese government has committed to a freeze of the building code.</para>
<para>Seventhly, we need to build public-private partnerships with insurers to reduce underlying risk and lower premiums. Finally, we need for those that are causing the damage to pay for the adaptation by ensuring a 'polluters pay' social and environmental model. We know that through CBAM, reform of the PRRT and so many other measures we can ensure polluters pay for adaptation.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>F2S</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Is the motion seconded?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Ms Boele</name>
    <name.id>26417</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion and reserve my right to speak.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:05</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CAMPBELL</name>
    <name.id>312823</name.id>
    <electorate>Moreton</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I want to thank the member for Warringah for bringing this incredibly important motion to the House today. Acting on climate change is crucial, and the reasons are obvious to us all: 2024 was the hottest year on record, our communities are enduring more extreme weather events more frequently and ecosystems are under strain.</para>
<para>In my home city of Brisbane, this year alone we've experienced a cyclone, an earthquake and flooding. In my local community on Brisbane's southside, we know the drill when it comes to natural disasters. Our local community is strong. Our local community helps each other out. Our local community is resilient. We also have a number of incredibly active community groups who are driving that preparedness and resilience. We have Benarrawa, the Sherwood Neighbourhood Centre, Community Plus+ in Yeronga and Communify in Acacia Ridge. What is clear, however, is that more action must be taken in order to make sure that that resilience is kept up and that our communities continue to get the support they need.</para>
<para>Since 2022, Labor has made major investments to help our communities adapt to the realities of climate change. We've committed $3.6 billion to targeted resilience efforts and around $9 billion to broader policies and programs that support long-term adaptation. This includes the $1 billion Disaster Ready Fund, Labor's initiative to strengthen disaster preparedness, and the rollout of Australia's first National Health and Climate Strategy and health National Adaptation Plan.</para>
<para>We've invested nearly $16 million in the Torres Strait and Northern Peninsula Area Climate Resilient Centre to coordinate local responses to climate impacts, and we are working with the insurance industry through the Hazards Insurance Partnership to better manage risk and improve our data sharing. By the end of 2026, we will identify priority actions with the states, territories and local governments to develop a climate change focused action agenda. The world is changing, and this is partly because of the transformation of industries and complex economies to net zero.</para>
<para>As part of Australia's journey to achieve net zero emissions by 2050, we've committed to reduce emissions by 62 to 70 per cent by 2035. This responsible approach is backed by science. It's not just a responsible approach; it's also an ambitious approach, with proven technology and a road map to get there. This transition also offers economic opportunities that benefit our nation. Our environment initiatives like the Cheaper Home Batteries Program have inspired Australians to install over 100,000 home batteries since 1 July this year. Since May 2022, we've also added over 18 gigawatts of wind and solar energy to the grid. We've approved more than 100 renewable energy projects—enough for power in every home across the nation—and we are working towards 82 per cent renewable energy by 2030.</para>
<para>We're also committed to supporting large industry to decarbonise. The National Reconstruction Fund is driving industry to scale up more renewables and low-emissions manufacturing. Such initiatives are forward-thinking and are having a positive effect right now as well as helping manage the effects of climate change into the future. While those who sit in the opposition are still arguing whether climate change is real or not, Labor is taking decisive action. In addition to the measures I've already outlined, we have invested up to $2 billion for the Clean Energy Finance Corporation to support the rapid development of renewable projects.</para>
<para>When it comes to climate and energy, what is clear is that people­—whether they be households or businesses—deserve clarity. What we have seen in the climate space is decades under a coalition government where we have had a policy shambles, and that continues this week. That's continued over the past few months. What have we seen from the Nationals? What have we seen from the Liberals? What have we seen from the coalition? They've walked away. They've voted against net zero. The member for New England has abandoned the party room. The Nationals have scrapped net zero, and the opposition leader is now at a crossroads. Only Labor can take the action on climate change that our community needs.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:10</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BOELE</name>
    <name.id>26417</name.id>
    <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Immediately before being elected into this place, I worked in finance, at a venture capital fund, where I served as a member of its impact committee. My role was to evaluate the counterfactuals of an investment—that is, what would the cost or impact be had the fund not invested into a particular climate tech solution? What if we invested at series A and B rather than series C, or what if we didn't invest at all? When governments put their budgets together, you'd hope that they would also be asking these kinds of questions. What are the cost of and the likely return on investing in this policy over that one, and what if we invest in early prevention rather than coughing up at treatment time?</para>
<para>Let's turn our mind to defence, for example. The government has never really produced an economic calculation of investing in AUKUS. It's a key strategy to deter future aggressors and to defence our nation. Experts simply opine that, compared to the other options, it's the superior move, and hence we commit $368 billion to it over a full 30 years. Let's look at health care, where we are starting to weigh up the policy options. Health insurers offer members rebates to have regular dental check-ups, and governments do it for bowel and breast cancer screening. Why? Because their experts, generally actuaries, show them that investing to prevent harm early saves money over the longer term. It saves a lot of money.</para>
<para>But, when it comes to climate change impacts so far, we simply don't do these things. Instead, we do this. Firstly, we rely on volunteers such as those in the RFS to prepare us for wildfires by carrying out fuel-hazard reductions, and we rely on volunteers in the SES to help us with emergency response and recovery from storms and floods. We basically rely on the goodwill of volunteers in our communities. But, in a changing climate, we can't rely forever on the kindness of strangers. The second thing we do when things get really bad all at once is call in the members of the ADF and spread what is already very thin capacity across a terribly broad and complex response situation. When the ADF is called out to do this and assist state and local authorities with evacuations, logistics, clean-up and other critical support operations, they are not defending our country. Our ADF should not be deployed to clean up after climate crises. It's uneconomic, and it's unfair on the personnel. We can't continue to fail to internalise the externalities and appropriately cost a clean-up on climate. We need to get on the front foot, and doing so will help ready our communities to weather the onslaught of a changing climate, free up our ADF personnel and community volunteers to better serve, and save Australians money by investing in preventive measures upfront. That's why I find it extremely easy and pleasing to stand here today, second this motion put by the Member for Warringah and commend it to the House and chamber.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>F2S</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>There being no further speakers, the debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next sitting.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Aged Care</title>
          <page.no>137</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:13</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms MILLER-FROST</name>
    <name.id>296272</name.id>
    <electorate>Boothby</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) that on 1 November, the Government's once-in-a-generation reforms to aged care began, giving more older Australians and their loved ones better access to a system that puts safe, high quality and dignified care at its core; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the <inline font-style="italic">Aged Care Act 2024</inline> and related reforms deliver a range of improvements to ensure older people and their needs are at the centre of the new aged care system including:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) strengthened aged care quality standards;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) a statement of rights;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iii) a new model for supported decision-making; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iv) introducing the Support at Home program to help older Australians remain in their homes for longer; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) acknowledges that the commencement of the <inline font-style="italic">Aged Care Act 2024</inline> is the next step in the Government's aged care reforms, which has already included:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the introduction of star ratings;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) more direct care for over 250,000 older people in aged care homes;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) 24-hours, seven days a week nursing in aged care homes;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) higher wages for aged care workers;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(e) a new single assessment system; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(f) more transparency on provider finances and operations.</para></quote>
<para>When the Albanese government was elected, one of our priorities was fixing the broken aged-care system. Nothing explained better how broken aged care was than the 2019 interim report from the royal commission into aged care, entitled simply <inline font-style="italic">Neglect</inline>. The royal commission final report was delivered two years later, in March 2021, and woefully little was done to address the catalogue of horror stories the royal commission had heard. By mid-2022, the previous coalition government had responded to fewer than 10 of the 148 recommendations.</para>
<para>We all heard the heartbreaking stories the royal commission was told of how older people—our parents, our grandparents, our neighbours and our friends—had been treated, and this government was the one to stand up and say that we can and must do better</para>
<para>The New Aged Care Act, which came into force over the weekend, responds to 58 of the 148 recommendations. This means that this Albanese government will have now responded in part or in full to 103 of the royal commission's recommendations, and, of course, the work continues. These generational reforms to aged care are really important for every older Australian and their families, carers and providers. Australia has an ageing population, and we know that there will be increased demand on the aged-care system. We owe it to every older Australian to ensure that, when they need aged care, it will be there for them.</para>
<para>Over the past three years, we have already introduced some very important improvements to the sector. We mandated 24/7 registered nursing in every nursing home, delivering more care minutes to residents. There is now a registered nurse on site in aged care more than 99 per cent of the time, delivering more direct care for over 250,000 older Australians. Our reforms are giving older Australians 7.1 million additional minutes of care every single day compared to under the last government. This is a great initiative to keep people healthy in their nursing home, their home, and also to avoid inappropriate transfers to hospital EDs for minor ailments and injuries.</para>
<para>We have already invested $17.7 billion to increase the wages of aged-care workers. Ultimately, the care you receive in a nursing home or aged-care facility is a direct product of the quality of the staffing. This government values the critical role workers play in this sector. We want aged care to be a career of choice, attracting and retaining quality workers who love providing care to other humans, who love aged care. Too often we heard that good carers and nurses were having to leave the sector because they couldn't afford their mortgage on aged-care wages or because they could get better pay somewhere else. Increases in aged-care workers' wages means they can pursue the career they love in the aged-care sector, providing quality care to residents.</para>
<para>Most importantly, we've improved the standard of care. In December 2023, only 54 per cent of aged-care homes had an overall star rating of four or five stars, which is good or excellent. Today, 79 per cent of homes do. Thanks to our reforms, older Australians are now receiving more care and better quality care under Labor. Now the New Aged Care Act is underway, we'll continue to make sure residential aged care is meeting the demand of an ageing Australian population and delivering truly equitable, sustainable and high-quality care. We know people want to stay at home, and the new act is making sure that they can do that with dignity, safety and quality support. But, when they need extra care, we'll make sure a bed is there for them.</para>
<para>And it's important to note that the new act isn't just more of the status quo; it's better care for more older Australians. It puts them at the centre of their decision-making. It's a rights based framework. The act's statement of rights makes sure that older people can make decisions about their own lives and have their decisions not just accepted but respected. It's more support at home, including bigger budgets and separate streams for home modifications and assistive technology. And, of course, it's a transformational change in residential care, with places now being delivered to people not homes. This will allow older people and their families to get the care they want where they want it, closer to the people they love.</para>
<para>Older Australians deserve the very best, and that requires transformational change. We'll continue to be responsive to older Australians who need more supports, whether that's specialist memory support services, mental health care or care for those living in regional areas. It's better care for more older Australians that puts them at the centre of their decision-making.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>298800</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Is the motion seconded?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Burnell</name>
    <name.id>300129</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion and reserve my right to speak.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:18</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms LE</name>
    <name.id>295676</name.id>
    <electorate>Fowler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I'd like to thank the member for Boothby for bringing this important issue to the chamber. This week we enter a new era in aged care with the commencement of the New Aged Care Act and the replacement of the Home Care Packages Program with the Support at Home program. It's understandable that, when a new government comes in, they want to leave their mark on existing policies, but the real questions for my community are these: Will these changes actually make life easier for the people who need care? Will it shorten the waiting time? Will it simplify the system? And, most importantly, will it make sure that older Australians get the support they need when they need it? Because, right now, that's not what's happening.</para>
<para>In Fowler aged-care issues cut right to the heart of our community. Every week I meet families and older Australians who tell me the same thing: the system is too complicated. There are too many forms, too many departments and too many long waits. Even for those with urgent needs, those waiting for level 4 packages, the delays can stretch out for more than 15 months. In that time people's health declines, families burn out and their faith in the system disappears. For many in my electorate, one of the most multicultural in the country, the problem is even worse. Carers who don't speak English fluently are often left struggling to navigate a system written in complex language. They face forms they can't understand and call centres they can't communicate with. Even when language isn't a barrier, navigating the system proves to be complex and time consuming.</para>
<para>Take Jenny—that's not her real name—who came to my office desperate for help. Her brother had been waiting for a year for his home-care package. She'd called My Aged Care again and again, but no-one could tell her where he was on the list. She told me she feared he would pass away before receiving the care he was entitled to. Or take Anna, who works a full-time corporate job and came in to see me to share her frustration at not being able to find a provider to deliver the services her father had been approved for while waiting for his home-care package. Multiple days off work to secure care services for her father left her disheartened when faced with being turned away due to lack of provider capacity and long wait times. Instead of dignity and support, the system delivered months of silence and confusion.</para>
<para>The government says the new aged-care system will fix these issues, promising transparency and better access, but for families like Jenny's and Anna's those promises mean nothing unless they're delivered in practice. This massive transition introduces new contribution structures and new rules. But, if we're not careful, we'll simply replace one bureaucratic maze with another. The ones who will suffer most are our most vulnerable—our elders from culturally and linguistically diverse backgrounds, those least able to navigate complexity or advocate for themselves.</para>
<para>The dignity of our elders must never depend on their ability to decode government bureaucracy. While the aged-care changes provide some positive relief, such as the $25,000 payment to help recipients spend their final three months at home and a new 12-week program to help when recovering from an illness or injury, what measures are in place to ensure a change such as capping admin fees to 27 per cent, which is designed to leave more funds to spend on care, doesn't drive perverse behaviours from providers who may increase their prices to recoup their costs? I call on the government to ensure this new system works with people, not against them. That means investing in frontline advocacy, frameworks that ensure provider accountability, accessible translations and face-to-face support that is culturally appropriate—not just digital portals, fragmented service delivery and policy papers.</para>
<para>In Fowler people don't need more announcements; they need a system that delivers. The dignity of our elders is not negotiable. It's time the Albanese Labor government matched its words of reform with real action for the families of Fowler and those in western and south-western Sydney to ensure that no-one will be worse off or left behind under the new-aged care system.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:23</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr GOSLING</name>
    <name.id>245392</name.id>
    <electorate>Solomon</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Over the weekend Labor's once-in-a-generation reforms to aged care kicked off. It's been a long journey to get here, working closely with older people, their families, carers and the industry to build a system that we can all be very proud of. The new act is a huge step in the transformation to deliver rights based, dignified age care for every older Australian, those senior Australians that we owe so much to. We're putting older Australians at the centre of their care and decision-making, building a high-quality, respectful and sustainable system. For the first time, the act's statement of rights makes sure that older people can make their own decisions about their own life and have their decisions not just accepted but respected. From bigger budgets to separate streams for home modifications and assistive technology, the new program will deliver more high-quality care to older Australians. These reforms build on the work we've done in our first term and show that we are absolutely committed to fixing the aged-care crisis and that we are committed to seeing it through.</para>
<para>We have already mandated 24/7 registered nursing, delivering more care minutes for older Australians, and there is now a registered nurse onsite in aged care more than 99 per cent of the time, delivering more direct care for over 250,000 senior Australians in aged-care homes. That's 7.1 million additional minutes of care, every single day, compared to when those opposite were in government. We have already invested $17.7 billion towards increasing the wages of aged-care workers. Our government values the critical role workers play in the sector, and we want those willing to join the sector to stay, and to be able to afford to stay, to help deliver the care that older Australians deserve.</para>
<para>Most importantly, we've improved the standard of care. In December 2023, only 54 per cent of aged-care homes had an overall star rating of four or five stars—that is, a good or an excellent level of care. Today, 79 per cent of homes do. Thanks to our reforms older Australians are now receiving more care and better quality care under our federal Labor government. We promised to lift the standard of aged care and we are delivering. After the new act is underway, we'll continue to make sure that residential aged care is meeting the demand of an ageing Australian population and delivering truly equitable, sustainable and high-quality care. We know people want to age at home, and the new act will make sure that they can do that with dignity and quality support, but when they need extra care we'll make sure that there's a bed there when they need it.</para>
<para>We are delivering on our government's election commitment to ensure that more older Australians in Darwin, in my electorate, can access the world-class residential aged care they deserve. Last week an expression of interest was opened to identify our delivery partner for a new residential aged-care home of at least 120 beds in greater Darwin. The government will invest up to $60 million through the Aged Care Capital Assistance Program to build this residential aged-care facility, with the objective of addressing critical supply shortages in aged care in Darwin and to relieve some of the current pressures in our hospitals. This new home will help reduce the number of older Territorians experiencing delayed discharge from our hospitals, and it will also give Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander elders access to culturally safe care that allows them to stay close to their families in country as well as delivering services to people with complex and high-care needs.</para>
<para>Next month a transformational expansion project for Pearl Supported Care in Fannie Bay in my electorate will open. The Albanese government provided an $18 million capital grant to deliver 26 new aged-care beds in a purpose-built dementia-friendly unit and an age-friendly health and fitness centre, which will help transform aged-care and healthy-ageing services in the Northern Territory. Whether it be our national aged-care reform program that has now been launched, including more support for our seniors to stay at home, the new dedicated dementia-friendly unit or the $60 million for a new aged-care facility in Darwin, we are looking after our seniors.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:28</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms PENFOLD</name>
    <name.id>248895</name.id>
    <electorate>Lyne</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Aged care is a big concern in the electorate of Lyne given its demographics. One of the greatest challenges is staffing and the difficulty providers face in trying to find aged-care workers. I've been contacted by several aged-care facility managers in my electorate, stating that their situation, with respect to staffing, workers and viability, is dire. They've said to me that there is a chronic shortage of both registered nurses and aged-care workers in aged care, which has been exacerbated by the mandated care-minute requirements. I'm told that aged-care facilities have beds that are closed because they can't staff them and therefore can't open them and that there was a mass exodus of qualified, highly knowledgeable and experienced aged-care staff due to the COVID vaccine requirements. But there's also the NDIS, which is a massive competitor. Staff can work fewer hours, do dayshifts or work one on one in the NDIS with similar or at times higher pay than staff in aged-care facilities. An aged-care facility in my electorate told me that, to address the shortage, the vast majority of workers will have to come from overseas.</para>
<para>The government has mandated care minute targets, which is fine, but the government has done nothing on the other side to support aged-care providers in expediting the approval of visas for overseas care workers. To the contrary, the waiting time for the processing of a 407 training visa has blown out from two to three months to 10 months plus. I checked the Home Affairs website today. The figure has blown out even further, with 50 per cent of applications processed in nine months but 90 per cent, the overwhelming majority, processed in 11 months. This is neither a reasonable nor acceptable timeframe.</para>
<para>When I wrote to the government, to the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship, the response I got was that a 10-month timeframe—which has now blown out to 11 months—was normal. This is an insensitive and uncaring response from a minister who seems to not understand the vital role that immigration plays in getting skilled workers for regional aged-care facilities. It is simply not good enough for the minister to have a hands-off approach to the problem. This government cannot work in silos. Has the aged-care minister, who would be well across the issue, sought the assistance of his colleague to help address this issue? Surely the aged-care minister, too, would be ashamed of the delay.</para>
<para>The implications of these staffing shortages are incredibly high waiting times for older Australians, whether that be waiting for an assessment, waiting for approval of a package or waiting to progress to a higher package level. An assessor in my electorate confided to me that, for home-care packages, local aged-care clients can be waiting months to have their assessments completed and, once approved, they are waiting at least six months before being assigned the funding. In addition to this, there is the issue of finding providers and health professionals whose books are not full.</para>
<para>One of my constituents, Dr Peter Ineson, wrote to me about his experience, which I would like to share with you: 'My wife, Ann Victoria, and I moved from Port Macquarie here to Wauchope for a less stressful way of life. We find that to be the case in all aspects of life, except for aged care support. In order to ensure Ann Victoria can live a comfortable and supportive life in Wauchope we have to modify the property for her needs. It would appear that we "need" the visitation and approval of an occupational therapist for any action to process modifications. Finding one of these persons is like looking for a needle in a haystack. We have already been waiting almost two months. Medically my wife is deteriorating rapidly and may well be dead before aged care provides the care and support as defined in the proposed legislation.'</para>
<para>From their initial contact with My Aged Care, clients in Lyne are commonly waiting 18 months before being able to access the home-care package, now called the Support at Home program. There is also very significant concern in the electorate over the co-payment requirement for personal services. Given all that this government says about co-payments—and I can hear the rebukes from the Minister for Health and Ageing from across the chamber—it is this Labor government that introduced the co-payment into aged care. In fact, in health the two co-payments required of Australians, the PBS and Support at Home, are both Labor initiatives. Labor members, next time you take out your green card, remember that, in fact, you are two for zero when it comes to co-payments.</para>
<para>In terms of the co-payment, this is a wait-and-see space. Where these reforms land in one of the poorest electorates in the country is yet to be seen, but I hope the government will ensure it is agile enough to move quickly and act if it proves too much for our older Australians.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:33</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms AMBIHAIPAHAR</name>
    <name.id>315618</name.id>
    <electorate>Barton</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to speak on the government's reforms to aged care that came into effect over the weekend just passed. Every older Australian deserves the same care and respect they gave this country through a lifetime of work, love and contribution. These long overdue reforms put care and respect back at the heart of the system. Everyone with older loved ones has had to battle with the aged-care system at one point or another. It is a difficult transition period and you find yourself confronted by tough decisions around your loved one's health, home and quality of life. On top of this, we have all heard and lived the horror stories unearthed by the Royal Commission into Aged Care Quality and Safety. In the words of the commission, the system was delivering substandard and unsafe care for Australians. It was too focused on providers and institutions and not on the rights, preferences and dignity for older Australians.</para>
<para>These reforms build on the good work we have already completed as a government. We've already mandated 24/7 registered nursing. Because of this, there is a registered nurse on site in aged care more than 99 per cent of the time. We've also invested $17.7 billion to increase the wages of aged-care workers. This means that dedicated staff are paid what they deserve and that their deep knowledge of their residents and the care they need stays in the system. We've also improved the standard of care. In December 2023, only 54 per cent of aged-care homes had an overall star rating of four or five stars—that's 'good' or 'excellent'. Today, 79 per cent of homes do. These new reforms build on this work and further the fight to deliver rights based, dignified aged care for every older Australian.</para>
<para>These reforms include three key changes. Firstly, they introduce a rights based framework. The statement of rights makes sure that older people can make their own decisions about their own lives and have those decisions respected. The statement includes the right for every person to have independence, autonomy, empowerment and freedom of choice, quality and safe funded services, respect for privacy and person centred communication. The Older Persons Advocacy Network calls this reform a 'historic moment' in aged care.</para>
<para>I particularly want to speak to putting older Australians at the centre of decision-making and empowering their choices. Since becoming the member for Barton, I've had many constituents contact my office requesting help with navigating the system. I want to speak to these examples but will change their names to protect their privacy. Paul contacted my office because he had approved level 3 funding in October 2024 but still had not seen that funding flow through by October 2025. Khalid reached out because he believed his case had been given a priority status but had not been able to get a new assessment. In both of these cases, these constituents felt like they were not being listened to when reaching out for help and that their requests had been ignored. Whilst I'm happy to help in these situations, a constituent should not have to get their local MP involved just to exercise their rights. In the first instance, both Paul and Khalid's requests should have been listened to, respected and actioned. This new rights based framework enshrines their voices and wishes in the act. Whilst I'll always be here to support those people, this means that older residents of Barton will be listened to and their choices respected from the get-go. That's what this reform this really about: restoring respect and giving back agency to the people who have given so much to all of us.</para>
<para>On top of this, our reforms also increase support at home. We recognise that many would rather stay in their home than move into assisted living facilities. These reforms will help more people to do that. From bigger budgets to separate streams for home modifications and assistive technology, the new program will deliver a high quality of care to residents in their homes.</para>
<para>Finally, we are delivering extra places to people who do need to transition into residential care. Places will now be directly assigned to older people who have been approved for government funded residential care services. Accordingly, mainstream residential aged-care providers will no longer need an allocation of places. Instead, residents will have more choice and control over which provider delivers their services. This is what good reform looks like: a system that listens, respects and delivers for the Australians who built this country.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:38</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr VENNING</name>
    <name.id>315434</name.id>
    <electorate>Grey</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>On 1 November, this government's new Aged Care Act came into effect, and what did older Australians get? Confusion, chaos and higher costs. There was no proper education campaign and no clear communication about what these changes meant, just bewildered elderly Australians wondering why they were suddenly paying more than before for the same support they were already receiving.</para>
<para>These changes have older Australians concerned that they will have to cut back on essential services because providers can now increase their costs. That's right. For eight months, providers can charge what they like for at-home services as the government will not cap these prices until 1 July next year. What happened to the 'no worse off' guarantee that these changes came with? Older Australians are being forced to pick up essential services, like help with housework, personal care and everyday living support. This is yet another broken election promise, one that comes with catastrophic consequences. This doesn't include the thousands of older Australians who are still waiting for the care they deserve. In total, more than 230,000 older Australians have been stuck, left in limbo, waiting for access to home-care support under Labor. The National Ageing Research Institute has shown that older Australians forced to wait longer than six months for a home-care package face an 18 per cent higher risk of death compared to those who receive support within 30 days. Across the electorate of Grey, families are facing impossible choices and heartbreaking situations due to this government's failure to deliver promised care. The stories I have heard from residents across Grey, both raw and devastating, prove beyond any doubt that we are in the midst of an aged-care crisis.</para>
<para>This is the price of Labor's centralisation and their one-size-fits-all policy approach. What works for cities does not work in small regional towns. Where is the compassion for the spouse who can no longer visit their partner because daily trips are around 400 kilometres return? Where is the plan to ensure that a retired farmer in the far north or a beloved community volunteer on the west coast can age with dignity in the town they love? This is what people in Grey are experiencing every single day—the shortage of essential services from aged care to dental care and child care. It's a failure of responsibility by all involved.</para>
<para>This government's failure to deliver adequate aged care in regional Australia is a betrayal of trust and shows a lack of foresight. Real people with real needs have been left behind by a system that does not properly work for regional Australia. Spouses caring for partners while their own health deteriorates, adult children forced to leave their careers to become full-time carers, families stretched to the breaking point—these changes only add to the burden they are already carrying.</para>
<para>When we talk about aged care in the electorate of Grey, we're not talking about statistics on a spreadsheet in Canberra. We're talking about the women who volunteered at the local CWA for 40 years, the farmer who built this community with his bare hands, the teacher who educated generations of our children. These are the people who have made our towns what they are today. They deserve better than confusion about new legislation. They deserve better than broken promises. They deserve better than a government that treats regional Australia as an afterthought. These changes have added another hurdle to an already difficult system for regional Australians to navigate—without proper education, without price protections for eight months, without adequate support. This government has let our elderly down. It can be the difference between living with dignity in the community you love or losing everything you've built over a lifetime. Our elderly built regional Australia. Now, it's our responsibility to ensure they can age in it with the support and dignity they deserve.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>265980</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>There being no further speakers, the debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next day of sitting.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Energy</title>
          <page.no>142</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:43</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TEHAN</name>
    <name.id>210911</name.id>
    <electorate>Wannon</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) condemns the Government for its failures regarding energy affordability and policy transparency; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) Australians were promised a $275 cut to their power bills but under the Government households are instead paying on average $1,300 more;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) energy bills have already surged close to 40 per cent under the Government;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) the Government has broken its most basic promise to the Australian people; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) the Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water advised the Minister for Climate Change and Energy within the Incoming Government Brief of 'a further significant increase in retail electricity prices next financial year'.</para></quote>
<para>It's incredibly important that we debate this motion because it goes to the heart of whether governments should look the Australian people in the eye and tell them something which is 100 per cent completely untrue, and that is what Anthony Albanese and Chris Bowen did. They said to the Australian people that they would reduce their power bills by $275 by the end of this year. Now, who thinks that that in any way is going to be achieved? It's not going to be achieved, and the energy minister should face up to the Australian people and say, 'I looked you in the eye, I said I would do this, and now it is clear that I cannot do it.' He should admit that he has 100 per cent, completely failed. As a matter of fact, what we've seen through the last CPI data last week is that the complete opposite is occurring. That complete opposite is hurting Australian households, hurting individuals and hurting industry.</para>
<para>We sadly saw this when it comes to Tomago. Now, 5,000 jobs are at risk because the government cannot get its energy policy right. Can I say this: it's not only that they didn't get the $275 right. The Minister for Climate Change and Energy received an incoming minister's brief in May which said that energy prices are going to rise. It said they will continue to increase. And now we have the minister not wanting to release that incoming ministerial brief and taking the absurd measure of trying to stop it being released by saying to the Senate, 'I'm going to defy your orders.' He's defying the Senate to stop it getting released. Why do you think the minister doesn't want that brief released? To start with, the bit he did release had so many bits of paper that looked like that—100 per cent blank—it wasn't funny.</para>
<para>Why do you think the minister is trying to prevent that ministerial brief being released? I have a suspicion. I think it says that gas prices but in particular electricity prices are going to continue to double under this government. I think that's what it says. If it doesn't say that, I look forward to the minister releasing the fully redacted brief in its entirety and saying, 'No, it doesn't say that.' But, if he won't, then, given that prices have doubled under them, why wouldn't it say they will double again? The policies haven't changed at all. They're not focused on energy affordability as their No. 1 priority at all. As a matter of fact, the minister has spent the last three months trying to get the next COP here in Australia rather than prioritising energy affordability. I say this to the Australian people: energy affordability will be the opposition's No. 1 priority because we know how important it is to our nation.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>265980</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Is the motion seconded?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Hamilton</name>
    <name.id>291387</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion and reserve my right to speak.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:48</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms AMBIHAIPAHAR</name>
    <name.id>315618</name.id>
    <electorate>Barton</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>As someone who's worked on the frontline of community support at St Vincent de Paul Society and someone deeply connected to the people of Barton, I see firsthand the pressures that Australians are carrying. Right now, the cost of living is the No. 1 concern for Australians and across the globe. We on this side of the chamber are not ignorant to the energy bills being high, and we are fixing this energy bin fire that we inherited from those opposite. Those opposite left Australians with an energy system that was fragile, outdated and vulnerable to global shocks. They walked away from renewable investment and refused to build a modern grid. And now, as history repeats itself, those opposite stand here pretending they have a plan. Let's be clear. Their plan is nuclear energy—the most expensive, slowest, riskiest and least pragmatic option available—a plan that will do nothing to help families here in Australia. The truth is simple. In times like these, people don't need slogans. They don't need a scare campaign. We are addressing the cost of electricity across all levels, such as with retail reforms to make sure Australians get the best possible deal and making sure more Australians can bring down the bills for good with more access to rooftop solar and cheaper home batteries, as well as better energy efficiency options.</para>
<para>The Australian people need a government—a steady one, a practical one, a responsible one—on their side and that is what this Albanese Labor government is delivering. While those across the chamber point their fingers, we on this side of the chamber are getting on with the job. Since 2022, the wholesale electricity prices are coming down. The independent Australian Energy Market Commission forecast that prices will decline to 2030 as more renewables enter the grid. This is something we are proud of and is important also for our large-scale consumers like manufacturers and smelters.</para>
<para>From next year, the Australian Energy Market Commission will implement new rules that will stop sneaky price hikes, preventing retailers from increasing prices more than once a year. We know electricity retailers are the primary buyers of the Australian wholesale electricity market, purchasing power from generators and reselling it to households and businesses. The new rules will also prevent customers from being charged more than the standing offer price if their initial low-cost offer changes or expires. Furthermore, there will be a ban on excessive retailer charges like late payment fees for all retail contracts and will ensure all consumers will be entitled to a fee-free payment method. The new rules will ensure vulnerable Australians are receiving the best offer from their retailer, placing a stronger onus on retailers to assist hardship customers.</para>
<para>While the Albanese Labor government has taken strong action to provide energy bill relief to Australian households and businesses, those opposite have opposed this relief at every step. We have provided three rounds of energy bill relief to homes and small businesses to take that sting out of the bills, while doing the overall reform work to bring down bills for good. We also acted to cap coal and gas prices, shielding Aussies from the worst of the global energy crisis.</para>
<para>Recent ACCC data shows some 80 per cent of households could be paying less on a different deal. The government's energy.gov.au website and the AER's Energy Made Easy website can help bill payers find their cheapest plan. For the people that came to Vinnie's and needed assistance with their electricity bills, the main thing that the Vinnie's team members did was look at their electricity plan to see if the person was on the cheapest plan available. Like many other amazing organisations, like the Salvos and Mission Australia, organisations like these have been advocating to ensure people are getting the best electricity deal possible. So rather than the member for Wannon submitting motions as such, how about advocating for constituents on seeking reviews of energy plans and guiding them to get the support they need.</para>
<para>Australians deserve a government that shows up every single day. They deserve leadership that recognises that energy is not just about power bills; it's absolutely about dignity, opportunity and security. They deserve a government that listens, works tirelessly and takes responsibility. This Labor government does exactly that. We are lowering the bills, modernising our grid, protecting our consumers and absolutely building a better future where Australians can rely on clean affordable energy.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:52</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr HAMILTON</name>
    <name.id>291387</name.id>
    <electorate>Groom</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I am very happy to support the member for Wannon on this fine motion. I remember well, Deputy Speaker Georganas, as I'm sure you do and others here, the lead-up to the 2022 election when then leader of the opposition—now prime minister—very successfully won a mandate on electricity prices. It was a very important conversation that he brought into the national narrative, and I believe very much it was a change he did want to see. Australians were hurting, he was hearing it, his members were hearing it on the government benches at the time and we were hearing it. This was an important conversation. Electricity prices were rising and looked like they would rise for some time. We needed change on that front. When the Prime Minister went and said, 'I am going to reduce energy prices by $275,' on 97 occasions, this was not dipping his toe in the water of this subject; this was a prime minister seeking a mandate to drive down electricity prices in this country, and he won that mandate.</para>
<para>Sadly, what we've seen since then is a complete policy failure, where energy prices have not gone down by $275. In fact, they've gone up on average by more than $1,300 around the nation. This is a spectacular policy fail. In my heart, genuinely, I hope the Prime Minister can turn this around, because I have constituents like Tom, who owns the National Hotel in Toowoomba, who regularly reaches out to me. He has provided me with his most recent energy bill, once again showing that, over the last two years, the energy costs for him to run his hotel have doubled. This is a point that he describes as breaking point. These costs continue to rise. At one point in his career, he said, these were costs that you just absorbed and that you understood would be there. Now he makes key decisions on future investments on the basis of his electricity costs, they have risen so much. They are rising in businesses; they are rising in homes. And if we are all honest here, we are all hearing this. The electricity bill that arrives in your letterbox, in your email, those prices are going up, and Australians are feeling it and we're hurting.</para>
<para>I'm not the first to have raised this. I acknowledge other members in this place, including you, Deputy Speaker Sharkie, have talked about integrity as being a key part. I think the key step here is for the government to acknowledge that they have failed on the mandate they sought. They have not delivered cheaper energy prices. We are seeing that discussion now being realised around the country. Just last week, the <inline font-style="italic">AFR</inline>—I'm going to quote them. They're talking about the recent inflation figures. They said: 'Other factors, including the sharp nine per cent jump in electricity prices, have played a part. This is partly due to the winding up of the energy rebate payments in three states, and now foreshadows the expected financial squeeze when the federal government's $150 cost-of-living power bill handout expires in December. Fundamentally, this reflects the structural reality that the renewable energy transition is expensive.'</para>
<para>That was in the <inline font-style="italic">AFR</inline>. So not only have the government failed during the last 3½ or four years, they have also set us up for further increases. We know that. We know that the minister has received a brief from his department saying exactly that. That's what is to be expected. Nothing has changed. Nothing has changed structurally. Our power bills have gone up, and they will continue to go up—that is the trajectory that we find ourselves on.</para>
<para>I want to raise how this failure to manage our economy and the impact of electricity prices is spreading right across Australia. We see today a press release from the AMA. The press release is about—it's titled 'Bulk Billing changes miss the mark'. It's showing how the changes the government is proposing or making to bulk-billing will not affect bulk-billing rates. I'm going to read a quote from the press release, because it points out something very important to this debate. It says:</para>
<quote><para class="block">"We are … frustrated that Minister Butler has repeatedly boasted that GP appointments will be 'free' under the program and that patients will 'only need their Medicare card, not their credit card'.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">"We have had many practices tell us that this is simply not true because the changes will not cover … staff, rent, electricity, consumables, insurance and other costs—</para></quote>
<para>which are all going up. The rising costs of electricity are playing out across our economy. This is not just in small businesses or big businesses or home; now we're seeing the AMA talking about the impact that it's having on GPs as well. Everyone is feeling the rising pressure of these costs. The government should, first, own up that they have failed and then, second, lay out a clear plan on how they are going to drive down these costs. That is what they said they would do for the Australian people, and they have absolutely failed to do so.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:57</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CLUTTERHAM</name>
    <name.id>316101</name.id>
    <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>This motion does state the obvious: energy bills are expensive. They place significant pressure on household budgets, and we all know this needs to change. The complexity is that this change must happen in parallel with one of the greatest industrial transformations in the last century, the shift away from dirty, unreliable and ageing coal to renewable energy. The change is happening, and we all accept it needs to be a just and fair transition, executed in a way that protects jobs, protects the environment and lays a sustainable foundation. This is a hugely complex undertaking.</para>
<para>Effort is required from all layers of government—federal, state and local. Effort is required from business and industry. And effort is required from individual Australians. In my state of South Australia and in my electorate of Sturt, this effort is bearing fruit. More than 1,600 households have taken advantage of the Albanese Labor government's cheaper home batteries scheme. We are second in the country. This program is helping these households reduce electricity bills by making the most of cheap and clean solar power, by storing it for when it is needed. But it doesn't just help 1,600 households; it lowers costs for everyone by reducing peak demand and creating a more stable electricity grid.</para>
<para>In South Australia though, we get frustrated because on a typical day 80 per cent of our energy is generated by renewables. As I prepared these remarks yesterday, the Australian Energy Market Operator fuel mix dashboard showed that 88 per cent of South Australia's energy was being generated by wind. The average spot price at that time was $42.62 per megawatt hour, lower than in all the other states for which data was available—Queensland, Victoria, New South Wales and Tasmania. I'm not going to stand here today and say that the data means that energy bills in South Australia are cheap, because on average they are not and more work is required in that respect. But the data illustrated that the renewables-dominated fuel mix in my state resulted in a lower spot price per megawatt hour. These results that I've just relayed to this chamber are based on evidence based data produced by the Australian Energy Market Operator. They're based not on guesswork or speculation but on data, and data and science are what governments need to focus on.</para>
<para>That's what this government focuses on, and that is why we are pursuing the transition to renewable energy. It's not a strategy driven by ideology; it's driven by data. Imagine if data and science were accepted by all sides of politics. We could then embark on a bipartisan transition that is just and fair to workers, to the environment and to all Australians. Imagine what the results of that combined effort could be. Instead, climate science, also underpinned by data, is being ignored. When constituents in my electorate of Sturt talk to me about the climate, which they do very often because Sturt is an electorate that cares deeply about the just and fair transition, I find myself unable to explain why some voices in politics are still calling for a repeal of net zero, still denying the science of climate change and still refusing to accept that we can have a just and fair transition if we have bipartisanship.</para>
<para>The science tells us that the eventual extent of global warming is proportional to the total amount of carbon dioxide that human activities add to the atmosphere. So, in order to stabilise climate change, carbon dioxide emissions need to fall to zero. The longer it takes to do so, the more the climate will change. Carbon dioxide is just one of the greenhouse gases emitted when we burn fossil fuels. Emissions of other greenhouse gases, such as methane, which has a more intense warming effect in the atmosphere, also need to be constrained.</para>
<para>Everyone in politics wants the following things for Australians and for our country: cheaper energy bills; food security underpinned by quality healthy food; meaningful well-paid jobs; good and sustained levels of public, physical and mental health; healthier air; a functioning and effective hospital system; revitalised and sustainable biodiversity; and a beautiful, clean and supported Australian environment to enjoy forever. So, by all means, question the government and hold us to account, but stop denying the data and stop equivocating. Join us and have a say in the just and fair transition. A majority of Australian voters asked you to.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:03</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms ALDRED</name>
    <name.id>11788</name.id>
    <electorate>Monash</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Reliable, affordable, sustainable—that is what we should be driving at when developing Australia's national energy policy. We absolutely need to have an emissions reduction plan, and, in fact, the coalition has got a strong history of preparing that since the Shergold review during the Howard coalition government. But it can't be at any cost or at a timeline that's unrealistic and puts households and industry at a significant disadvantage. Labor and the teals would have you believe that the energy transition Australia is confronting is simple, cheap and easy. It's not. It's actually complex, complicated and at a cost. That's what we've got to work our way through in a sensible, pragmatic manner. We need to make sure that we've got all technology available and on the table. That includes carbon capture and storage, nuclear and other options.</para>
<para>Australia at the moment is an outlier to the rest of the world: Canada, the United States, Japan, China, India, the eurozone and New Zealand. Chris Bowen seems to know something that the rest of the world doesn't, and that is because they are confronting those three key challenges of reliability, affordability and sustainability. I fear the teals are making a lot of this worse in spooking state governments. We've seen it in New South Wales, where Penny Sharpe, the energy minister there, is effectively using government funding to get Origin to keep its Eraring power station open for longer than its natural life. We've also seen it in Victoria, where our once-four, now-three coal-fired power stations—looking at Yallourn, for example, owned by EnergyAustralia—are still providing 22 per cent of Victoria's baseload electricity. Yallourn is set to close in the next three years. All of those coal-fired power stations will come to the end of their natural engineering life at some point, but the Victorian government have been able to come up with a clear, sensible way forward to replace, effectively, 22 per cent of our baseload electricity within those next three years.</para>
<para>I also have real concerns that the burden for most of this transition is being put on regional Australia. We all want to pay our fair share. We all want to contribute our fair share of responsibility. Right now I'm speaking with farmers across my electorate, from South Gippsland and Bass Coast to West Gippsland, where we have the best soil of anywhere in Australia. We are proud to grow, make and manufacture things. About 23 per cent of the nation's dairy output comes from the Gippsland region, and about 26 per cent of Victoria's beef production comes from the Gippsland region. We are proud to provide that produce but we are unfairly being asked to shoulder all of that burden. For example, there are a number of offshore wind proposals off the coast that would have transmission lines going through some of that prime agricultural farmland to Darnum in West Gippsland. We grow great horticultural produce and dairy produce there. They are looking down the barrel of a huge battery energy storage project that those neighbouring farms don't want. Victorian Energy Minister Lily D'Ambrosio is riding roughshod over those local communities.</para>
<para>I want to commend the effort of my state parliamentary colleague, the member for Narracan, Wayne Farnham, who has stood shoulder to shoulder with that farming community. We've met with the local residents. We've heard the concerns, and I am imploring the Victorian state government to take those concerns seriously and to listen to our regional communities. We cannot shoulder all of that burden.</para>
<para>The cost of energy is going up. This government promised a $275 cut to Australians' energy bills no less than 97 times; we're yet to see it. Energy is one of the drivers of inflation in this country, and we've just seen inflation go up to 3.2 per cent, which is outside the RBA recommended band of two to three per cent. You only need to look at Philip Lowe, the former RBA governor, and his remarks about inflation being a 'homegrown problem'. We're dealing with government overspend, but we also need to look at other areas like energy that are having a direct impact on inflation. Households and families in my electorate are bearing that burden.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>265980</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Before I call the next member, I'll give a little reminder to the Chamber for those speaking to refer to members of parliament by their title and not by their name.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:06</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr FRENCH</name>
    <name.id>316550</name.id>
    <electorate>Moore</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Those opposites certainly have short memories, don't they? I rise to oppose this motion by the member for Wannon. Before I came to this place, I worked as an electrician. My work on the tools taught me a lesson I value to this day: you can't keep patching over faults and expect the system to hold. The truth is simple. A decade of delay and denial under those opposite left Australians with a broken energy system that was outdated, unreliable and far too expensive to run. So let's be clear: Labor is cleaning up their mess.</para>
<para>For 10 years, the coalition refused to listen to experts. They blocked investment and they allowed ageing coal stations to be run into the ground. Now, they have the gall to lecture this parliament about affordability. It was their neglect that made power unreliable and left households exposed to global shocks. Since coming to office, this government has taken action at every level to fix what the coalition broke. We delivered three rounds of direct energy bill relief for homes and small businesses—relief those opposite voted against every single time. We've acted to cap coal and gas prices, shielding Australians from the worst of the global energy crisis. And we're reforming the market itself. This includes new rules that ban sneaky price hikes, late payment fees and card surcharges and that force retailers to put hardship customers on their best available offer. That's real reform that makes a difference to the lives of everyday Australians, like people in my electorate of Moore.</para>
<para>We're helping bring their power prices down for good. We're expanding access to rooftop solar and cheaper home batteries. We're investing in energy efficient homes and we're building a modern renewable grid that doesn't rely on expensive, unreliable coal. And the results are coming through. According to the Australian Energy Regulator, wholesale prices have been falling since late 2020 thanks to increased renewables and government action. The Australian Energy Market Commission projects that prices will decline through to 2030 as more clean energy enters the grid. And the Australian Energy Market Operator confirmed that renewable power—firmed with storage and backed by gas—is the lowest way to keep the lights on. In other words, the experts agree: renewables are the cheapest form of new energy, even when you include storage and transmission.</para>
<para>Recent research by Griffith University's Centre for Applied Energy Economics and Policy Research backs that up. They found that electricity costs today would be as much as 50 per cent higher if Australia had relied solely on coal and gas instead of pursuing renewables. Their modelling found that, across every major region, a grid based on renewables and storage is 30 to 50 per cent cheaper than the 'what if' scenario where we stuck with coal and gas. So let's be clear: investing in renewables isn't just about emissions; it's about economics. It's a smart way to deliver cheaper, cleaner and more reliable energy for the long term.</para>
<para>Yet the member for Wannon still wants to take us down the nuclear fantasy path. That is the most expensive, the slowest and the riskiest energy option on the table. As an electrician, I can tell you this much: no household will see cheaper bills from a reactor that doesn't even exist.</para>
<para>Australians know who's actually doing the work to make energy fairer and more affordable. It's this government, cutting bills now, rebuilding what the coalition broke and making the system fair again. So, instead of finger-pointing, the opposition might consider apologising for the decade of dysfunction that landed us here in the first place. This motion is pure theatre—all heat and no light. It ignores the facts, the data and the progress being made. It underestimates Australians' intelligence and their lived reality. And that's insulting.</para>
<para>Labor has a plan, backed by experts, backed by industry and built for the future, to deliver cheaper, cleaner and more reliable power to every Australian household. That's what we're doing. We're getting on with the job, and that's why I oppose this motion.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:13</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms LE</name>
    <name.id>295676</name.id>
    <electorate>Fowler</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The issue at hand is energy or, rather, the lack of affordable, stable energy and its brutal role in driving our cost-of-living crisis. The kitchen table debate in Fowler is no longer about saving $5 on a power bill. It's about paying for the power bill or putting food on the table. It's about a government whose energy policy has become less about practical engineering and economic stability and more about ideological virtue signalling.</para>
<para>When the Reserve Bank released its most recent figures, warning signs were flashing red. Annual headline inflation has jumped to 3.2 per cent. This is not abstract economics; this is a tax on every working family. And what is the single biggest contributing factor to this fight? It's the energy sector. The data confirms that households are spending a devastating 33.9 per cent more on electricity than they were just a year ago. A 33.9 per cent price hike on an essential service is not inflation. It's economic sabotage, inflicted by a chaotic market and poor planning.</para>
<para>But the pain doesn't stop at the power meter. The energy shock travels straight down the supply chain and lands with crushing weight in the shopping trolley. Food manufacturers are telling us that their gas and energy costs have soared by more than 50 per cent over the last three years.</para>
<para>Do you know who pays for the costs when the manufacturer, the truck driver and the local supermarket pass it on? It's the battlers of Western Sydney and the families of Fowler. The price of milk, the price of bread and the price of fresh vegetables—these are all now inflated by the soaring price of keeping the lights on. It's unacceptable that, in a country blessed with abundant resources, we are forcing low-to-middle-income families to choose between heating their homes and feeding their children. Right now, energy pricing feels like a lottery. On Monday, the spot price is low; by Wednesday afternoon, it's sky-high. On Thursday at lunchtime, it can even go negative. Businesses can't budget like this. Small business can't plan like this. The manufacturers certainly can't invest like this.</para>
<para>The volatility and opacity of the market are costing Australians dearly. How did we get there? There are three hard truths. First, we broke a working system and replaced it with an expensive one. For most of our history, electricity was treated as essential public infrastructure. Communities like Tamworth led in the 1880s with first electric lighting system. Later, states built integrated systems that were boring, reliable and cheap. In the 1990s, we split those utilities into dozens of generators, a handful of network monopolies and a thicket of retailers. We were promised competition and lower prices. What we got was complexity, marketing overheads and bills that outpace inflation year after year. Productivity fell even as managers and sales teams multiplied, and every new cost found its way onto the bill.</para>
<para>Second, the rules reward margin over merit. Wholesale prices have fallen sharply from the 2022 peak, yet retail bills barely budged. Why? Because the highest cost generator of electricity sets the price for everyone, because gas, now getting more expensive, often sets the price even when the market goes negative, meaning electricity is running for free through the network. Households don't see the benefit. The system is not built to deliver the lowest cost to consumers; it's built to preserve margins in the middle.</para>
<para>Third, high energy costs are hollowing our industry. Cheap, reliable power once offset high labour costs—not anymore. Electricity and gas input costs have risen dramatically since 2000. When glass furnaces go cold, when fertiliser production winds back and when local plastics and chemicals shut, those are not isolated headlines; they are markets heading for deindustrialisation, fewer skilled jobs and weaker supply chains.</para>
<para>Australians are tired of finger-pointing. They want actions that cut bills and restore stability. Here are some practical agenda in parliament that we should adopt: make east coast gas work for Australians and put in place a durable domestic reservation and transparent wholesale benchmarks so gas cannot be exported at the expense of households and industry. When gas sets the marginal price, the whole marketplace brings that marginal price down. Mandate retail transparency and passthrough. Require automatic passthrough of wholesale falls, including negative price events, onto standing and market offers. Publish on a single page the breakdowns of every bill—energy, networks, schemes, retail costs and profit. If a retailer can't explain a bill plainly, they shouldn't be selling it. Modernise tariffs for the solar era: create ultralow daytime tariffs to soak up majority of midday solar glut so that households can charge hot water systems, EVs and batteries between 10 am and 3 pm. Retire legacy off-peak, night-only thinking. That is no longer much how the grid actually operates.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>265980</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>There being no further speakers, the debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next day of sitting.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>United States-Australia Framework for Securing of Supply in the Mining and Processing of Critical Minerals and Rare Earths</title>
          <page.no>148</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:18</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BURNELL</name>
    <name.id>300129</name.id>
    <electorate>Spence</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) acknowledges the Prime Minister's successful visit to Washington DC, during which the United States-Australia framework for securing the supply of critical minerals and rare earths was signed with the President of the United States, a landmark bilateral framework on critical minerals and rare earths;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) notes that the agreement will:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) assist both countries in achieving resilience and security of critical minerals and rare earth supply chains;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) support Australian jobs in the mining, separation, and processing of these minerals through the use of economic policy tools and coordinated investment; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) support defence and other advanced technologies; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(3) recognises that this agreement:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) represents a further strengthening of the enduring Australia-United States alliance and a significant milestone in the longstanding friendship and cooperation between the two nations; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) is delivering on the Government's Future Made in Australia agenda by driving investment in new export industries and providing good jobs in regional Australia.</para></quote>
<para>Today I speak about a landmark achievement for Australia's economic and strategic future, the signing of the United States-Australia Framework for Securing of Supply in the Mining and Processing of Critical Minerals and Rare Earths, reached during Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's successful visit to Washington DC. This agreement represents a major milestone in the enduring friendship between our two nations and a deepening of the alliance that has shaped our shared prosperity and security for generations. It is also a cornerstone of our Future Made in Australia agenda, driving investment in new export industries, creating jobs in local communities and securing the resources and technologies that will power our clean energy future.</para>
<para>Australia is home to some of the most valuable deposits of critical minerals and rare earths in the world. Nearly the whole of the periodic table sits below the ground we stand on. These are called critical because they are essential to the world's transition to net zero: the batteries that store renewable energy, the turbines that generate it and the solar panels that capture it. But their importance goes further. Light and heavy rare earths are central to high-tech manufacturing, defence, artificial intelligence and clean energy. They power the data centres, precision systems and advanced technologies that underpin the evolving modern economy.</para>
<para>The US-Australia framework will help create diverse, resilient and sustainable critical minerals supply chains that reduce global market concentration and strengthen both nations' economic security. It provides the architecture for coordinated investment, mobilising financing from both governments and private industry to support mining, processing and manufacturing projects in both countries. It will diversify supply chains essential for defence and advanced technology manufacturing and will enhance investor confidence through transparency, clear regulation and shared standards. Through the framework both nations have committed to at least $1 billion each in funding to accelerate projects that strengthen critical mineral and rare earth supply.</para>
<para>This is about jobs. It's about making sure that regional Australians—those working in our mines, refineries and processing facilities—are at the centre of the industries that define the 21st century. It's about securing Australia's role in global supply chains so that, when the world looks for responsibly sourced, high-quality materials, they look to Australia first. And it's about strengthening the industries that underpin our national security, ensuring we have the materials we need for clean energy, advanced manufacturing and defence capability. The framework will also leverage our existing policy tools and international partnerships through the G7 Critical Minerals Action Plan, the Quad Critical Minerals Initiative and our Critical Minerals Strategy 2023-2030.</para>
<para>Australia and the United States have worked closely for years to identify and support projects of shared interests, and this framework formalises that partnership. Together we will invest in new critical minerals projects, enhanced mining and processing capability, promote high-standard production and cooperate to address market challenges such as unfair trade and price volatility. The Prime Minister said in Washington that this is about ensuring that our nations lead in the industries that matter most to our future prosperity, climate security and defence capability. Domestically the Albanese Labor government is reinforcing this international effort by establishing the Critical Minerals Strategic Reserve.</para>
<para>The reserve will help Australia manage volatility in global supply chains—something we saw last year in nickel and lithium—by allowing the government to act from a position of strength when markets are disrupted. It will operate through two key mechanisms: national offtake agreements to acquire or option key minerals at set prices and selective stockpiling to secure access to the minerals most vital to our national interests. A dedicated taskforce has been established to deliver this work and the reserve is on track to be operational by the end of 2026. Together the framework and the reserve reflect a clear vision: an Australia that doesn't just export raw materials but refines, processes and manufactures the products the world needs; a nation that turns our natural resources into long-term prosperity for regional communities; a trusted partner to our allies; and a global leader in sustainable, high-standard production. This is a future made in Australia—stronger, fairer and more secure. That is what good leadership looks like—a plan for a cleaner, stronger and more sovereign Australia.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>265980</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Is the motion seconded?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Zappia</name>
    <name.id>HWB</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion and reserve my right to speak.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:23</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms PRICE</name>
    <name.id>249308</name.id>
    <electorate>Durack</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to speak on the motion from the member of Spence regarding the signing of the United States-Australia framework for securing the supply of critical minerals and rare earths. There is no question that this agreement represents an important moment in the deep and enduring friendship between Australia and the United States. For more than 70 years our alliance has been the bedrock of Australia's security. Whether through ANZUS, the Five Eyes partnership or more recently AUKUS, the United States has stood with Australia in promoting peace, stability and prosperity in our region. This new critical mineral framework continues that tradition.</para>
<para>Critical minerals and rare earths are the building blocks of the modern economy. They are essential to the technologies that underpin both our national security and our economic security. Ensuring the resilience of these supply chains is not just an environmental or economic imperative; it's a national security imperative also. While we have seen out of APEC President Xi agree to lift export controls on rare earths to the United States, it is clear that the Chinese stranglehold on critical minerals and rare earths processing cannot continue. Australia has the resources the world needs, and there is a real chance for us to capture the full value of these resources right here at home. This shouldn't just be limited to the US, though. It should also extend to our European partners, particularly given the increased NATO investment in defence we've seen just recently.</para>
<para>What matters though is not the announcement but the execution, and this is where the opposition has real concerns. Importantly for Western Australians, who are right at the forefront of this agreement, there is still no clear plan on how this framework will translate into new processing facilities, new regional jobs—that's pretty important to the people in Durack—or new investment certainty for local industry. In fact, many in the sector say that the biggest obstacle to developing Australia's critical minerals capability is our government's own red tape. It took just two days following the signing of the deal for a big dark cloud in the form of the government's extreme nature-positive laws to jeopardise this agreement.</para>
<para>Despite the rebrand of the proposed environmental laws, the Business Council of Australia has identified several critical areas where the legislation should be amended. They've warned that reforms that don't strike the right balance will mean we won't get the critical minerals projects that are vital to Australia's future prosperity. There is a real irony here that, in the name of environmental protection, we will export these opportunities to countries who, quite frankly, couldn't care less about our environment. Does anyone really believe losing those opportunities here in Australia to China will benefit us or, indeed, our environment? Unfortunately, I expect the answer from those opposite is probably yes.</para>
<para>You only have to look at the antics of the member for Hasluck last week in this place to see that. Carrying a solar panel into the main chamber, the member for Hasluck said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Under Labor we are delivering cleaner, cheaper, Australian made energy, built by Aussie workers and backed by Aussie resources, powering our economy now and into the future.</para></quote>
<para>That sounds really good doesn't it? Nothing the member for Hasluck said in that statement is true. We haven't suddenly become cleaner under Labor's watch. Australia's emissions have barely dipped since Labor took office. They remain at 28 per cent below 2005 levels, which is exactly where they were when the coalition left office in 2022. Energy certainly isn't cheaper under Labor, with electricity costs going through the roof. Households have seen a 23.6 per cent rise over the past 12 months, which, as we have all seen, has pushed inflation once again outside the RBA's target band.</para>
<para>But, of course, it's not just households feeling the pinch. So is industry. As we know, Tomago, the largest aluminium smelter in Australia, confirmed last week they are consulting with their thousand workers over their future beyond 2028 due to soaring power costs. Another bailout is now being proposed. It would be the fourth of the year, following Whyalla, Glencore and Nyrstar. Most egregious, though, is the claim that it is Australian-made technology that is driving energy security.</para>
<para>So, to summarise, we have inflation rising, with Australians struggling to afford their bills, we have Australian heavy industry on the brink and we are increasingly reliant on foreign imports to power our economy. To me, that does not sound like Labor is delivering for Australia. It is definitely not our future made in Australia.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:28</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr GOSLING</name>
    <name.id>245392</name.id>
    <electorate>Solomon</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I have spoken previously in this place about Arafura's nation-building Nolans project in the Northern Territory. It is the largest and longest live resource project in the Northern Territory ever. The Nolans project has the power to transform Australia's rare earths sector, establishing the Northern Territory as an essential processing and logistics hub through vital collaboration between government, industry and, importantly, local communities. It will open up logistics chains and develop the local businesses required to provide critical support and benefit neighbouring minerals projects in that region north of Alice Springs.</para>
<para>The Australian government has invested in the Nolans project with support from Export Finance Australia; the Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility, the NAIF; and the NRFC, the National Reconstruction Fund Corporation. The project will deliver over 600 construction jobs and a further 350 long-term operational roles. Arafura is a great example that Australia is home to some of the most valuable deposits of critical minerals and rare earths in the world—almost the whole periodic table, as the Prime Minster likes to remind us.</para>
<para>Critical minerals are critical to the world's transition to net zero, including for batteries, wind turbines and solar panels. Rare earths are essential for high-tech manufacturing and defence, the digital economy, artificial intelligence, data centres and clean energy. We've known for some time that our critical minerals are in demand, and we've been working to secure Australia's interest and create diverse resilient and sustainable critical minerals supply chains that reduce market concentration.</para>
<para>The United States-Australia Framework for Securing of Supply in the Mining and Processing of Critical Minerals and Rare Earths—otherwise known as the framework—which was announced during the visit to the United States last month by the PM and the Minister for Resources, Madeleine King, will take this cooperation forward with the United States. It will focus our bilateral efforts on overcoming barriers to the development of diversified liquid and free markets for critical minerals. It will strengthen investment in Australia's critical minerals sector by providing an architecture for Australian producers to access US financing—and vice versa; it goes both ways. It will also encourage greater investor confidence through enhanced market transparency and openness.</para>
<para>Through the framework we will invest in critical minerals projects, enhance the capabilities of our mining and processing sectors, promote trade in minerals produced to a high standard and encourage markets to reward those high standards of production. We will cooperate on challenges such as unfair trade practices and price volatility, and we'll improve regulatory processes and collaborate on mineral recycling and geological mapping. Australian consideration will be done in collaboration with our Australian financing facilities—the Critical Minerals Facility, the Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility and the National Reconstruction Fund Corporation—as previously mentioned. This framework commits us to providing at least $1 billion in funding to each project located in Australia and the United States. The framework will leverage existing policy tools such as the United States' industrial demand and stockpiling infrastructure and Australia's critical minerals strategic reserve.</para>
<para>The establishment of a critical minerals strategic reserve by our Albanese Labor government will maximise the strategic value of Australia's resources. Australia has the critical minerals and rare earths that the world needs, but supply chains and markets are volatile. We saw this with our nickel and lithium sectors last year, and that also impacted my electorate and the Northern Territory. The reserve positions us as a reliable supplier and a global competitor. It will allow Australia to work with partners on trade and market disruptions from a position of strength. It supplements other measures we are implementing to support a critical minerals sector, such as the production tax incentive. We are committed to having the reserve operational by the end of 2026. That is a very important thing when you consider everything else we're doing for critical minerals and rare earths in our nation.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:34</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr SCAMPS</name>
    <name.id>299623</name.id>
    <electorate>Mackellar</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>They're called 'critical' for a reason. Critical minerals and rare earths are the gateway to a decarbonised future. They are crucial to the manufacture of products including electric cars, wind turbines, electric vehicle batteries and solar cells. However, China has built a near monopoly on this industry, producing more than 90 per cent of rare earths and rare-earth magnets. Currently all G7 countries except Japan are heavily or exclusively reliant on China for these products. It's never good to put all your eggs in one basket, and the supply of these critical minerals and products is already under threat. Last month, China restricted the export of rare earth minerals and the products that use them as part of the trade fight with Donald Trump. And, as recently as two days ago, European carmakers warned that they may have to halt production in the next couple of days due to a shortage of chips and semiconductors following a dispute with China over control of the Dutch chipmaker Nexperia, which is owned by China's Wingtech. So it is clearly critical—pun intended—that we secure and diversify supply of these critical minerals and products. It is essential to the future security and prosperity of our nation and many of our allies.</para>
<para>The recent critical mineral deal struck with our close allies America, Canada and Japan represents an exciting opportunity for Australia, if we get it right. But the experience of our gas export industry stands as a stark warning of just how wrong we can get it. So let's explore our experience of gas exports in Australia, because, as the saying goes, those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Currently, Australia is paying a higher price for our gas than many countries importing it from us. In a cost-of-living crisis, this putting unnecessary pressure on families and, in many cases, driving manufacturers to the wall.</para>
<para>Here in Australia we have an abundance of gas. Australia produces more than six times the amount of gas we need to supply our manufacturing industry, power stations, homes and businesses. We are the second largest exporter of LNG in the world, and 90 per cent of our gas is used for export. Gas exports use 13 times more gas than Australia's entire manufacturing industry each year, yet here in Australia the Tomago smelter, which supplies 40 per cent of Australia's aluminium, faces closure because of a so-called gas shortage and sky-high prices in Australia.</para>
<para>The so-called gas shortage in Australia comes on the back of consecutive federal governments putting Australia last instead of first. While manufacturing businesses face closure due to so-called energy shortages both on the east and west coast of Australia, governments continue to allow predominantly foreign owned fossil fuel companies to export record amounts of LNG. Japan, for example, buys 43 per cent of imported gas from Australia, and then, for the last few years, has onsold more than this amount for profit. We do not have a gas shortage problem in Australia; we have a gas export problem.</para>
<para>Thanks to the work of the Australia Institute, we know that over half of Australia's gas exports are given away for free, without gas companies paying any royalties or petroleum resources rent tax. Since 2015, gas companies have exported nearly $132 billion worth of liquefied natural gas from Gladstone, in Queensland. Six out of 10 of these gas companies have paid zero company tax on these exports. In Australia, more tax is paid by both nurses and teachers than by gas companies. No wonder the ATO has labelled the gas industry as a 'systemic nonpayer of tax'. We cannot let the same thing happen to our critical minerals industry.</para>
<para>Australian taxpayers will be investing billions into the creation of critical mineral mining and refining and processing in this country. As we embark on the next big resources opportunity, we must not repeat the poor policy decisions that have allowed multinational companies to profit off Australian gas with little return to the everyday Australian.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:39</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms LAWRENCE</name>
    <name.id>299150</name.id>
    <electorate>Hasluck</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for Spence for this motion, which is directly relevant to the projects, the prospects and the livelihoods of the many people in his state of South Australia and in mine of Western Australia. Australia, of course, has some of the best deposits of critical minerals in the world. However, China currently controls up to 70 per cent of the global supply of critical minerals, around 85 per cent of the refining capacity and about 90 per cent of rare earths and magnet production. It announced export restrictions on rare earths and processing technologies early in October but then suspended that action, thankfully, after the summit between Presidents Xi and Trump this week. We learnt through COVID the importance of having dependable supply chains and how quickly and easily they can be disrupted. The need for greater self-sufficiency and firmer supply chains in critical minerals is palpable.</para>
<para>When Prime Minister Albanese met with US president Trump in October, he was able to have a meaningful discussion around the challenges that both face in relation to the need to have a dependable supply chain of critical minerals and rare earths. This resulted in the two leaders signing the United States-Australia Framework for Securing of Supply in the Mining and Processing of Critical Minerals and Rare Earths. This framework involves significant investment by both countries in forms such as guarantees, loans, equity, offtake agreements, insurance and regulatory facilitation. There will be a mining, minerals and metals investment ministerial within the first six months of the signing and the establishment a US-Australia critical minerals supply security response group, which will identify vulnerabilities and coordinate appropriate responses.</para>
<para>In April this year the government committed to establishing a critical minerals strategic reserve. This will act to protect Australia's strategic interests in relation to the predictable supply of these commodities. A total of $1.2 billion has been allocated to establish this reserve in the 2025-26 federal budget, and it is expected to be operational from the second half of 2026. It will include national offtake agreements whereby the government will acquire agreed volumes of critical minerals from commercial projects or establish an option to purchase at a given price, holding security over these assets as part of a strategic reserve, as well as selective stockpiling.</para>
<para>This is in addition to the $7 billion for the Critical Minerals Production Tax Incentive, which is designed to kickstart the processing and refining of these commodities. Recipients of that incentive will receive a refundable tax offset of 10 per cent of eligible costs of processing critical minerals in Australia. The offset will be available between 1 July 2027 and 30 June 2040, with a 10-year maximum for each project. This gives that long-term planning surety that industry needs.</para>
<para>The Critical Minerals Production Tax Incentive has received broad support from stakeholders. The Association of Mining and Exploration Companies stated that it was just in time. The Chamber of Minerals and Energy of Western Australia welcomed the announcement of the policy, which it had advocated for prior to the budget. The Smart Energy Council noted that a tax credit for critical minerals will help to ensure a stable and secure supply of these vital resources while also supporting the growth of a clean energy industry. Tesla commended the government for seizing the opportunity by supporting industry to take minerals as far down the value chain as possible. The Business Council of Australia stated that a well-designed CMPTI can provide the foundation for Australia to be a competitive destination for critical minerals processing and refining.</para>
<para>The union movement, too, is strongly supportive of the government's Future Made Australia plan and the critical minerals tax incentive, with unions including the AMWU, the AWU, the ETU and the MUA all engaging positively on the consultation. A number of mining and tech industries also participated in the consultation, including Western Australian companies Ardea Resources, Chalice, Liontown, Hazer Group and Pilbara Minerals. The government's policies and agreements, like the framework signed by the Prime Minister in Washington this month, will act to drive both investment and jobs growth in regional areas of Western Australia and across the country.</para>
<para>The Albanese government has assessed our situation, has seen what is needed and has backed in Australian industry. Together with people like our minister for resources, Madeleine King, and the Foreign minister, we are yet again proving ourselves on the world stage.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:44</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr WILLCOX</name>
    <name.id>286535</name.id>
    <electorate>Dawson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>We've all seen the headlines—a new critical minerals deal with the United States celebrated as a triumph for democracy. But the truth is it's a geopolitical token gesture, leaving Australia dangerously exposed and underinvested in. We're being asked to cheer a handshake when what we need is a manufacturing revolution on our own soil, turning our raw minerals into value added products and keeping the profits and the jobs here at home.</para>
<para>Australia is still a quarry for China, not a manufacturer for the world despite being one of the top producers of critical minerals—lithium, nickel and rare earths. More than 90 per cent of our lithium is exported overseas, mostly to China, where it is refined and turned into products that we buy back at many times the cost. For 19 out of 20 strategic minerals, China dominates refining, controlling around 70 per cent of the global market. That is not just a trade issue; it is strategic vulnerability.</para>
<para>The deal with the US is a strategic band-aid designed to secure their supply chain, not to transform our industry. The real profits, high-skilled jobs, intellectual property and economic security that come from processing and manufacturing are still flowing out of this country. Without a plan to process minerals in Australia, we are locked into a low-value end of the supply chain. Even if we wanted to build these facilities, the reality is harsh. Our energy costs are crushing our competitiveness—once our advantage, now a crippling burden.</para>
<para>Industrial electricity in Australia costs up to twice as much as in Canada and the USA, making it almost impossible for local refineries and manufacturers to complete globally. The difference is not minor. It represents tens of millions of dollars in extra costs every year for energy-intensive operations like refineries, costs that make local processing economically unviable. Until the government delivers affordable, reliable and stable power, any plan for a domestic processing industry is nothing more than an economic fantasy.</para>
<para>Let's be clear: the United States needed this deal far more than Australia did. Their defence and clean energy industries are vulnerable because of China's chokehold. Australia had the US over a barrel. We held the leverage, a chance to negotiate tariff reductions for our steel, aluminium and other value-added exports, a chance to demand real investment in our industries, a chance to secure a genuine economic partnership. But what did we get? A handshake and a photo opportunity. The opportunity was squandered because this government prioritise headlines over substance, because the Prime Minister was too worried about negative press over his rocky relationship with President Trump. This was not diplomacy; it was capitulation disguised as achievement. This government could have turned our resources into a bargaining chip; instead, they handed it away with a thank you.</para>
<para>The minerals under our feet should be our prosperity, not someone else's economy. Without a cheap, reliable and clear plan for onshore processing, Australia will remain dependent on China and will continue exporting our resources and lose our manufacturing base. We need affordable firm baseload power, clean coal and gas, and nuclear must be on the table. Without it, investment will go offshore. We need real investment in incentives for domestic processing and smelting so Australian miners can complete on the global stage. We need a focus on value adding here in Australia, not exporting our jobs, our profits and our knowledge to other countries.</para>
<para>The Albanese government's mismanagement, collapsing manufacturers, energy instability and anti-investment policies are driving opportunities away from our soil. This government spends billions chasing net zero targets while our industries collapse under high power prices and regulation. That is ideological vanity, not leadership. We cannot dig our way to prosperity if we can't power it. It requires bold leadership, investment, certainty and domestic manufacturing. We deserve more than a handshake; we deserve a mining and manufacturing revolution. Australia must capture the value of our minerals to create high-skilled jobs and to secure a sovereign and prosperous future.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>265980</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The time allotted for this debate has expired.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Construction, Forestry and Maritime Employees Union</title>
          <page.no>153</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:49</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
    <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) condemns the Government's handling of corruption allegations within the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU), acknowledging that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations continues to endorse its solution despite whistleblowers saying corruption is worse than it was before the appointment of the CFMEU Administrator;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations refuses to answer questions about new allegations of corruption since the Government put the CFMEU into administration;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) organisers were promoted into senior roles by the Administrator and subsequently sacked on allegations of accepting cartel kickbacks and corruption since the administration has been in place;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) meetings have been tolerated with known organised crime figures and meetings have seemingly been green lighted with violent misogynists since the administration has been in place;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(e) there are allegations of bribes and cartel kickbacks being paid with the knowledge and possible sanction of the administration;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(f) the union leader backed by the Government to reform the CFMEU, Zach Smith, directed a subordinate to secretly meet with a 'notorious construction industry fixer' and Melbourne 'underworld identity' Mick Gatto;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(g) despite claiming meetings between CFMEU officials and Mr Gatto could lead to up to two years in prison, the Administrator only issued a caution once it was revealed this meeting was made public;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(h) the union leader backed by the Government to reform the CFMEU, Zach Smith, has been having coffee and card catch ups with John Setka whose conduct was the basis for the appointment of the Administrator in the first place;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) the Administrator has seemingly sanctioned meetings between Mr Smith and Mr Setka and they continue to this day;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(j) the Prime Minister relies on Mr Smith's vote in meetings of the National Executive of the Australian Labor Party with other ministers; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(k) the current Government's failure to take tough action is tainted by its acceptance of $7 million in donations from the CFMEU, and informs why it is backing the Administration even though whistleblowers are saying it is failing; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the Government is not taking the action needed to stop the corruption and cartel kickbacks that led the CFMEU to be put under administration because of its conflicts of interest;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) allowing the criminal and corrupt CFMEU to run rampant across residential, commercial and public projects, is pushing up costs to taxpayers and inflation, and is pushing up the cost of first homes by up to 30 per cent; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) leaked advice from the Department of the Treasury states the Government will fail to reach the National Housing Accord target of 1.2 million homes by 2029 because it is putting the CFMEU ahead of first home buyers.</para></quote>
<para>Australians should want a system of government that is free from corruption and cartel kickbacks, but the reality is we have nothing like that right now. Under the coalition government, we established the Australian Building and Construction Commission to rein in the criminal law-breaking and cartel kickbacks between the CFMEU and so many of the companies that go along with their destructive behaviour and of course their direct connection to the ACTU and the Australian Labor Party. The scale of corruption is unending, so there was more work to be done under the ABCC. But one of the first acts of this Labor government was to abolish the ABCC, take what little was left of the leash that held back the CFMEU's corruption and let it loose on the Australian community. Now they are complicit every step of the way in the corruption that has been engaged.</para>
<para>Corruption is corrosive to our democracy. After it was revealed the CFMEU was directly connected to criminal gangs, organised crime and bikies to access public projects, the Albanese government eventually had to admit that maybe they got it a bit wrong and shouldn't have let them completely off the leash. So they put the CFMEU under administration. Fifteen months on, the verdict is now in. It's not my opinion. It's not the Labor government's opinion. It's the opinion of whistleblowers who are now calling out the administration, saying that, ultimately, corruption has actually gotten worse. Only last week, Charles Farrugia went public on the program<inline font-style="italic"> 60 </inline><inline font-style="italic">Minutes</inline> to highlight the bullying and intimidation now systemic within the CFMEU. While the minister waxes lyrical about having the strongest possible course of action, the reality shows something completely different. The facts show now the administrator appointed figures who have since been sacked on allegations of corruption. Rather than destroying corruption, he has, tragically, become the enabler of it.</para>
<para>Fair Work reported in estimates that they would have grave concerns if meetings were approved between the Victorian head of CFMEU, Zach Smith, and, of course, John Setka. That happened. The administrator greenlit meetings with John Setka and has completely ignored meetings with Mick Gatto, simply issuing cautions. Recent evidence has been highlighted in the <inline font-style="italic">Age</inline> newspaper. Veterans that want to work on Victorian big-bill projects have been asked to pay corrupt kickbacks, simply for the right to work, in $10,000 brown paper bags. In Victoria, the CFMEU hires organised crime to attack companies. In New South Wales, contractors hire organised crime to respond to CFMEU thuggery. This is absurd.</para>
<para>First home buyers are paying the cost through higher costs for new apartment builds, and the cost is flowing on to CFMEU corruption. Taxpayers are paying an even bigger price through the higher cost of public projects, lower returns and lower value. More importantly, when higher costs go up on public projects, tomorrow, it is debt. In addition to that, it is taxes on future generations. It's all to finance and feed cartel kickbacks to the CFMEU. Taxpayers are paying a higher price, and the beneficiaries are criminal gangs, organised crime and bikies. I don't think it should shock anybody, and it amazes me there are Labor members speaking against this motion, but here they are—to be judged by the Australian people and to somehow stand by and say they think this corruption is acceptable. It is not acceptable.</para>
<para>Confidence in the administration has collapsed. The minister has strapped herself to the administrator in arguing that this is the strongest possible course of action, but nobody believes it. Three weeks ago, we wrote to her asking basic questions. She won't answer. Last week—this is how bad it got—the head of Victorian CFMEU, Zach Smith, who lent his numbers to the Prime Minister on their national executive of the Labor Party, self identified that he was sufficiently tainted that he removed himself. When even the corrupt are abandoning ship, you know it's bad. But he is still an adviser to the minister on her National Construction Industry Forum. When we asked her about it in parliament last week, she ran interference. There's no wonder the minister is blocking an inquiry into the CFMEU administration. She still continues to get advice from Zach Smith from the Victorian CFMEU.</para>
<para>We need a clear plan to address the shortcomings of this administration. That's why we need an inquiry, and we need Mr Smith out of the way. We need Australians' help. Go to timwilsonmp.com.au/cfmeu_inquiry to fight back and lend your name to stand up against CFMEU corruption.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>282335</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Is the motion seconded?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Ms Spender</name>
    <name.id>286042</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion and reserve my right to speak.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:54</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CLUTTERHAM</name>
    <name.id>316101</name.id>
    <electorate>Sturt</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>When it comes to the construction industry the focus of the Albanese Labor government is on creating a fair and transparent environment concentrated on ensuring that there are highly skilled and qualified workers in the various trades that we need to build a future made in Australia, including first and foremost to build the houses that this country needs. It's also focused on providing skilled and highly qualified educators within TAFE and other VET providers and within the apprenticeship sphere to ensure we have enough educators to train the workers we need to build a future made in Australia. The Albanese Labor government, under the leadership of the Prime Minister and the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations, is focused on ensuring that the environment that these workers and educators will contribute to is free of corruption, criminality or violence.</para>
<para>Corruption, criminality and violence will not be tolerated and is not tolerated in any part of the construction industry by this government. We do not accept it, and suggestions by the member for Goldstein to the contrary are false. We don't accept it. It can't be like that. If the environment is affected by corruption or criminality or violence, the potential workers that we need will be disincentivised to join the building and construction industry, and we know that these kinds of disincentives cannot exist. We cannot afford it, because there is too much building work to do. The problems, however, that were deeply embedded in the industry are decades in the making and they need to be solved. Let's be clear though. They can't be solved overnight, and it is unhelpful and unrealistic to expect that.</para>
<para>Rather than continually drawing attention to them in a manner which lacks construction and is unproductive, those on all sides of politics need to come to the table and act in a bipartisan manner to ensure that the problems are solved as fast as possible. When all parties understand and agree that creating an environment where Australians are incentivised to work in the building and construction sector is actually in the best interests of all Australians and when all parties seek to promote this important outcome rather than continually seeking to undermine it for obviously individual purposes, only then can meaningful reform take place.</para>
<para>The Australian Building and Construction Commission did not work. We know this. It was ineffective in dealing with the cultural and substantive issues that had been embedded within the industry for decades. That's why, quite rightly, the ABCC was abolished by the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Act 2022. The act also established the National Construction Industry Forum, which provides advice to the government on a wide range of issues in the construction industry—including workplace relations, skills, safety, productivity and industry culture. It has a balanced membership, with members who have experience representing employees plus an equal number of members who have experienced representing employers in the building construction industry.</para>
<para>Further the joint agency working group—an alliance between regulators and law enforcement agencies—is working in a methodical, careful and measured manner to take action to stamp out corruption, criminality and violence from the construction industry. Other tangible action being taken to stamp this out is the scheme of administration applied to the CFMEU's construction division. The difference between the achievements of the administrator—only in effect for 15 months—and the now defunct ABCC, which was ineffective, could not be clearer. The administrator has removed or accepted the resignations of more than 60 staff; has developed a national code of conduct and statement of expectations for all staff; has cracked down on gifts, organised crime and menacing behaviours by setting out clear consequences; and has established inquiries into state branches of the CFMEU. This work will continue until there is an environment of lawful and effective union functioning.</para>
<para>There are no quick fixes here, but the Albanese Labor government is committed to the task. We will keep working with employers, contractors, unions, state and territory governments, regulators and law enforcement agencies to ensure this critical industry is lawful, safe, fair, productive and sustainable for the future. We need it to be. It's in the interests of all Australians that it is. So it would be helpful and in the interests of all Australians if all sides of politics recognised this and contributed constructively.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:59</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms ALDRED</name>
    <name.id>11788</name.id>
    <electorate>Monash</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>It's always a pleasure to follow my good friend and colleague the member for Sturt. I rise to support the motion moved by my friend and colleague the member for Goldstein. We're both proud Victorians, and we're both in absolute despair at the lawlessness that is pervading our great state at the hands of state and federal Labor governments.</para>
<para>The<inline font-style="italic"> Saturday </inline><inline font-style="italic">Paper</inline>, which is no cheerleader of the coalition, wrote over the weekend about payback for those who have blown the whistle on the CFMEU. The article says:</para>
<quote><para class="block">The costs have been stark for the whistleblowers. To start with, "going to war" against the corruption of the construction division of Victoria's CFMEU has meant their effective blacklisting from union job sites. One has worked very little in the past year, and bills are due. Christmas is near. Their partner has also felt the strain.</para></quote>
<para>I'd also like to quote from the <inline font-style="italic">Weekend </inline><inline font-style="italic">Australian</inline> that this issue has been raised again.</para>
<quote><para class="block">The CFMEU's manufacturing division has taken Federal Court action to lock in its split from the union's "dysfunctional and murky" construction division in a move that will formalise the creation of the 10,000-member Timber, Furnishing and Textiles Union.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">The expected court approval will see the once influential CFMEU reduced to the construction division, which will be in administration for years, and the maritime division.</para></quote>
<para>It goes on:</para>
<quote><para class="block">The departure of the manufacturing division follows the exit of the mining and energy division to form a stand-alone union.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Manufacturing division national secretary Michael O'Connor said on Friday "our members are looking forward to officially getting out".</para></quote>
<para>I don't always agree with Michael O'Connor and his division, and I don't always agree with the pulp and paper division of the CFMEU, but locally, in the Latrobe Valley, there have been many occasions when I have stood up with those divisions on the issues of jobs and manufacturing. I remember Anthony Pavey, from the pulp and paper division of the CFMEU in the Latrobe Valley, stood up on behalf of his members who worked at Australian Paper, and Michael O'Connor has been a strong representative of the forestry division in the CFMEU. It is quite clear to see how appalled they are at the actions of the construction division of the CFMEU, that it is a stain on other divisions that are trying to get on with the business of representing their members.</para>
<para>I'd also like to point out that my colleague the member for Goldstein has been relentless in his pursuit of truth and justice on this issue, and he has yielded some results. Late last week the CFMEU's Zach Smith was forced off the Labor Party's National Executive after the Prime Minister had to distance himself from relying on Smith's support. That being so, the minister is still blocking a Senate inquiry into union corruption, which will still, unbelievably, rely on Smith as a key adviser. I have to ask, why is this government scared of the truth? We know that that resignation was as a direct result of sustained pressure by the member for Goldstein and the coalition, who have only one interest, and that is to get to the heart of this issue and to expose the conflict of interest that the Albanese Labor government is conflicted by.</para>
<para>We need an inquiry to reveal the full scale of corruption, cartel networks and why officials have been placed in positions that, it turns out later, have been sacked on allegations of corruption. This is really important; it goes to the heart of integrity and accountability in government. We are now 15 months along since the CFMEU was placed into administration. We've got whistleblowers who are saying corruption inside the CFMEU has got worse, not better. It's just outrageous. Instead of cracking down on corruption, this continues on and it's an absolute farce.</para>
<para>Under the Prime Minister's watch, the CFMEU are still refusing to answer questions. The government are still refusing to answer the most basic questions about CFMEU cartel kickbacks, despite the figure now climbing to $6.6 million. It's not good enough.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:04</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms COMER</name>
    <name.id>316551</name.id>
    <electorate>Petrie</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Let's be absolutely clear. The Albanese Labor government does not tolerate corruption, criminality or violence in any part of the construction industry. Meaningful reform requires collective, ongoing efforts by all stakeholders. These problems are deeply embedded in the industry and have been decades in the making. They will not be solved overnight. The coalition and its failed and discredited ABCC utterly failed to deal with these problems. In fact, the appalling culture in the construction industry flourished under their watch. Multiple individuals involved in corruption, criminality and violence were allowed to retain their positions and continue their unlawful activities.</para>
<para>Now, we are cleaning up the mess. Following multiple referrals from the Albanese Labor government, regulators and law enforcement agencies are now working in a coordinated manner through the joint agency working group to stamp out corruption and violence within the construction industry. These include the AFP, state and territory police forces, the Fair Work Commission's general manager, the Fair Work Ombudsman, ASIC, the ATO and AUSTRAC. We have also taken tangible action to address misconduct within the CFMEU's construction division by placing it under a scheme of administration for up to five years. This administration has achieved more progress in 15 months than the failed ABCC managed in a decade. So far, the administrator has: removed or accepted the resignation of more than 60 staff; developed a national code of conduct and statement of expectations for all staff; made absolutely clear where the union stands on gifts, organised crime and menacing behaviour and the consequences of breaching those standards; and established several inquiries into state branches of the CFMEU.</para>
<para>The administrator, respected barrister Mark Irving KC, is undertaking complex and often dangerous work. He regularly acts on credible information received through a confidential whistleblower complaints process which has already received more than 500 complaints. He has initiated numerous investigations into the New South Wales, Queensland and Victorian branches of the CFMEU as well as into the union's finances and the Building Industry 2000 fund. Mr Irving has taken proactive action in response to these reports including: disciplinary measures; dismissals and expulsions of individuals from the union; issuing new contracts that set out clear standards of behaviour; establishing cultural change programs; and issuing notices to produce. This is what real reform looks like. We have full faith in Mr Irving's integrity and independence. Matters regarding the appointment of officers and staff of the union are for him to determine, not for politicians to interfere with.</para>
<para>The government's actions are already delivering results, but we also know that the problems are not confined to the CFMEU alone. Other parts of the industry, including employers and contractors, will have a significant role to play in cleaning up the construction sector. There are no quick fixes, but the government is committed to the task.</para>
<para>That is why we have established the National Construction Industry Forum. The NCIF meets at least twice a year and has endorsed a blueprint of reform that includes immediate work on the Joint Construction Industry Charter, setting shared goals and expectations for all construction industry participants. This is long-term work that is needed to make sure the industry is not only free from corruption but also productive and sustainable.</para>
<para>It stands in stark contrast to the years of neglect under the coalition, who turned a blind eye while those problems took root. Every major allegation of criminality in the sector occurred while the ABCC was in operation. The ABCC was ineffective, politicised and a waste of public funds. The appropriate response to criminal activity is not political theatre; it is a police response. That is exactly what the government has delivered—coordinated enforcement through the AFP, state and territory police, and regulatory agencies, all working alongside the CFMEU administrator to restore integrity.</para>
<para>Our government will not politicise ongoing investigations, nor will we allow anyone to be above the law. It was on the opposition 's watch that organised crime elements infiltrated the construction industry. They had nine years to act, and they failed. By contrast, this government has acted decisively, transparently and effectively. We are empowering whistleblowers, supporting law enforcement and working with the industry to change its culture from the ground up. This is a government committed to ensuring Australia's construction industry is one we can all be proud of. The Albanese Labor government will continue to take strong, coordinated action to stamp out corruption and criminality wherever it occurs, and we will continue to stand up for the thousands of honest workers who deserve a clean industry, decent pay and safe workplaces.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:09</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms SPENDER</name>
    <name.id>286042</name.id>
    <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to speak on this important motion and echo serious concerns that I have and that my community has about the CFMEU and the corruption in the construction industry more broadly and to urge the government to take further action on this. While I support the administrator, I believe we need more than a three-year administrator because this has been an endemic problem for the last 40 years and it needs more action than one administrator to solve.</para>
<para>The corruption, thuggery and general misconduct in this industry have been one of the worst-kept secrets across the country for decades. While I support, as I said, the government's action in terms of appointing an administrator, we need to be honest that the Labor Party has turned a blind eye to endemic corruption and thuggery in the CFMEU for decades. The CFMEU made contributions of $4 million to the Albanese government's successful 2022 campaign, and the government only took real action in relation to the CFMEU when forced to by the actions of brave investigative journalists, particularly out of the <inline font-style="italic">SMH</inline>, who I pay credit to, who have made a real contribution here.</para>
<para>Let's talk about what's wrong with this industry. When I speak to people in this industry, as I do regularly, what I hear often is: 'Allegra, I'll speak to you, but do not tell anyone that I have spoken to you. Never mention what I have said, because these people could ruin my business overnight and they could destroy me and my family.' This is what's been going on, and it has been going on for decades. This is not the way the construction industry or any industry in our country should operate, particularly one that is so integral to our housing, to our infrastructure and to what makes this country work. So I put a pox on both the houses—on the Labor Party for turning a blind eye to the CFMEU's corruption for decades and on the coalition for failing to act effectively when they were in government for almost a decade and for putting forward the ABCC, which didn't actually deal with this and left us with this problem, which is still endemic.</para>
<para>The question really is: how do we make a change now to make that fundamental shift in the corruption and thuggery of this industry so that we do not need another royal commission in three, four or five years and that this changes once and for all? I believe we have a long way to go there. As I said, I support the appointment of the administrator. I think it has been imperfect. I think there are actions that they should have taken and questions for them to answer. But overall I do believe that this was a constructive approach as opposed to deregistration of the union, which I think would have only made things worse. But the truth is that the CFMEU administrator cannot deal single-handedly with the breadth of corruption, thuggery, misogyny and other issues facing this industry; it needs broader action. I and others wrote to the Prime Minister back in June last year and said, 'Appoint an administrator, but go much further. There are key issues that you need to have in mind,' and many of those are still relevant.</para>
<para>I want to talk through three of them. Firstly, the Master Builders Association has suggested—and I fully support—having an enhanced taskforce across the AFP, the state police bases, the Fair Work Ombudsman and the Fair Work Commission. We need a heavily resourced taskforce to address these issues of corruption or other sorts of criminal activity when they come up because the jurisdictional challenges in this industry are real. I know this firsthand from speaking to people about it. So this is something that we need resources for now.</para>
<para>Secondly, we also need competition reform. The industrial relations system, which is largely not subject to competition law, creates an environment where there are incentives for corruption. You can effectively ensure that the subcontractors that you're suggesting get the deals, and that is the perfect place for corruption to start and to fester. Until we change those incentives, and I think competition law is part of it, we will not fix this.</para>
<para>Thirdly, I believe we need to change our procurement laws, and I support the National Construction Industry Forum setting out clear behavioural standards. We need to give that teeth when it comes to procurement.</para>
<para>Finally, I believe we need a broader regulatory setting for the construction industry. If Labor were to back this, it would show that Labor is willing to really step into this rather than still play the political game on the ABCC. The ABCC failed. It did not address the issues. But, if the government does not put in a broader set of reforms that are permanent, it won't address the issues either. This is an industry that absolutely needs a fundamental overhaul for housing, infrastructure, clean energy infrastructure—you name it. We need the construction industry to work without thuggery.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:14</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms JARRETT</name>
    <name.id>298574</name.id>
    <electorate>Brisbane</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Let me be clear from the outset. This government will not tolerate corruption, criminality or violence in any workplace, including in the construction industry. But what we will tolerate are strong and effective unions that are there to look after workers and stop them being exploited. I'm a proud unionist. I come from a union family. I've seen what a positive difference unions make to individual workers and their families. The problems that we see in the construction industry are not the norm in the Labor movement; they're deeply embedded and have been decades in the making, and they won't be solved overnight.</para>
<para>But let's get one thing straight. I agree in some respects with some of the words from the member for Wentworth—under the coalition's nine years of failed leadership, the discredited Australian Building and Construction Code, ABCC, failed to deal with the problems within the CFMEU or within the construction industry. It failed. Those opposite were running around beating their chests and saying what a great cop the ABCC was going to be. Instead, we saw the exact opposite in terms of culture in the construction industry. A bad culture was allowed to flourish under their watch. Multiple individuals were involved. They were involved in corruption, criminality and violence, all while retaining their positions to continue to conduct unlawful activities.</para>
<para>Now, Labor is acting to clean up the mess. As the member for Petrie talked about earlier, following multiple referrals from the Albanese Labor government, our regulators and law enforcement agencies are working together through the joint agency working group to take strong action to stamp out corruption, criminality and violence. We've also taken real action to stamp out corruption in the CFMEU's construction division by placing them under administration for a period of five years.</para>
<para>A lot has been done in this time. Under the administration for the last 15 months there's been the removal of and acceptance of resignations from about 60 people. They've developed a national code of conduct and statement of expectations for staff and made it absolutely clear where the union stands when it comes to gifts, organised crime and menacing behaviours and what the consequences will be. They've also established several inquiries into state branches of the CFMEU.</para>
<para>On this side of the House, we believe in the right to organise and the right to join a union. The Labor Party was born out of the labour movement. That's why I'm proud to be part of a government that is the delivering for Australian workers. We have a wonderful resume of achievements since coming to office. What's Labor done? We've introduced multi-employer bargaining. In 2022 the Fair Work Legislation Amendment (Secure Jobs, Better Pay) Act enabled employees in certain sectors, such as child care and aged care, to bargain collectively across employers. We increased the minimum wage by 3.75 per cent, directly impacting 2.6 million workers. We made wage theft illegal by introducing criminal penalties as part of the closing the loophole reform. We've reduced the gender pay gap through reforms, including requiring large employers to report their gender pay gap, prohibiting pay secrecy clauses and introducing super paid on government parental leave. We've enhanced delegates' rights with reforms to strengthen the rights of union delegates in the workplace. We've legislated the right for employees to disconnect from work related communications outside their work hours. There have been changes to labour hire. Labour hire workers have new rules to potentially increase their pay. There is a national labour hire licensing scheme being established. There's a ban on non-compete clauses for workers earning under $175,000. Last week, we saw payday super, where workers will now be paid their superannuation the same day they get paid.</para>
<para>But it's not just industrial relations reforms that this government has introduced that has been good for workers. A tax cut for every Australian has delivered for working people. Being able to see a GP for free delivers for working people. Cheaper child care, energy relief and a five per cent deposit—these all deliver for working people. While those opposite will take every opportunity to attack working people, this Labor government will always stand up for working people and their families.</para>
<para>As I said, the Labor Party was born out of the labour movement, and that's why I'm so proud to be standing here today talking about the importance of what Labor is delivering for workers and why we need a strong union and labour movement. The problems in the construction industry are not the norm, and it's taken the Labor government to clean them up—because we want to see a strong and effective labour movement.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:19</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr RYAN</name>
    <name.id>297660</name.id>
    <electorate>Kooyong</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>For over a century, unions have played a vital role in securing Australian workers' rights by advocating for fair wages, safe working conditions and job security. They've helped enforce workplace laws, protected against unfair dismissal and promoted equality and inclusion, by driving major reforms like paid leave, superannuation and antidiscrimination protections. Today, women are more likely than men to be union members in Australia. Women unionists have led campaigns for equal pay, for paid parental leave, for antidiscrimination laws and for accessible child care.</para>
<para>The Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union, the CFMEU, is an outlier. For years, it has been accused of corrupt and criminal misconduct and of having a culture of violence, intimidation, misogyny and bullying. Elements of this behaviour have been documented repeatedly by royal commissions and other inquiries, but they've never been effectively dealt with. We've heard from courageous journalists and from members of the industry that legitimate businesses and individuals are too susceptible to intimidatory tactics—they're too frightened of the potential for commercial or personal retribution to seek redress or to speak publicly about the ongoing issues within the CFMEU.</para>
<para>It's clear that the coalition's Australian Building and Construction Commission failed to bring these issues under control. It oversaw declining construction industry productivity and an increase in workplace injuries and deaths. In July 2024, along with crossbench colleagues, I asked the government for urgent and comprehensive action regarding the CFMEU. Our concern then, which remains, was that the CFMEU's infiltration by criminal elements and its actions within the construction industry compromise the integrity of government spending. They cause individual and social harm through alleged criminal activity, they increase building costs and they worsen housing affordability, business costs and inflation while eroding our economic productivity.</para>
<para>The Albanese government abolished the failed ABCC and the Regulated Organisation Commission, but it has not yet regulated an appropriate replacement body to exercise long-term oversight of the industry. The administrator it appointed in August 2024 has encountered very significant legal, operational and cultural challenges in reforming the union. That administrator, Mark Irving, recently noted that the work of his administration can only take the union so far. The problems across the industry are myriad. No single agent has the responsibility or the resources to fix all of them.</para>
<para>On behalf of the citizens of Kooyong, who have long expressed concerns about the criminal activities of the CFMEU and their effect on housing costs in our state, I call on the government to have the courage to act on this issue and to ensure that this country has a construction industry in which criminal behaviour is not tolerated, in which public investment in infrastructure maximises value for money and productivity and in which politics and politicians prioritise public interest over financial and political relationships with unions and lobbyists. I ask the government to provide adequate resourcing to support all levels of police and all levels of government to conduct thorough investigations into cases involving misuse of public money, abuse of powers of the union and fraud by actors in the construction sector.</para>
<para>I ask the Labor Party to put a permanent stop on receiving any donations or fees from the CFMEU. I ask the federal government to withhold infrastructure funding from state projects until the states show convincing evidence of their effective policing of criminal activity within the sector. I also ask the government to put in place a successor to the administrator. It should establish a new oversight body and legislative framework, staffed by a cross-jurisdictional police taskforce and representatives from industrial regulators, government agencies and industry representatives, to provide us with the accountability and cultural change that is required to permanently address the issues within the construction sector—not just within the CFMEU but also within the labour hire industry and the construction industry more generally.</para>
<para>This body should be developed with engagement across the parliament. It should be protected from political attack after every change in government. While bribery and corruption are allowed to fester in our construction industry, we all pay the price. We need to join together across the political lines to effectively address an ongoing blight on the Australian industrial landscape.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>13:24</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms COFFEY</name>
    <name.id>312323</name.id>
    <electorate>Griffith</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Unions have long been one of the most important forces for fairness and safety in Australian workplaces. They've fought for rights many take for granted now—the weekend, paid leave, safer work sites and fair pay. When unions work as they should, they give workers a voice, uphold dignity and protect lives, because every worker deserves to go home safe at the end of the day. So much of the work done in our construction industry is inherently dangerous. Every day workers, often young and often vulnerable, put their health and safety on the line to build the infrastructure our communities rely on—roads, hospitals and housing. It's hard, risky work, and these workers deserve to be paid fairly and treated with respect. Employers have a duty of care to keep their workers safe, not just because the law says so but because it's the right thing to do. Families should never have to worry about whether their loved ones will make it home from work.</para>
<para>Close to my community of Griffith, we've seen the heartbreaking consequences when those protections fail. In 2023, 29-year-old worker Daniel Sa'u lost his life when temperatures reached a sweltering 36.1 degrees Celsius while working on the Cross River Rail site in Moorooka. His wife described Daniel as a wonderful father to their three children, a loving son and someone deeply missed by all who knew him. And earlier that same year ,17-year-old Tyler Whitton was placed in an induced coma and died the next day after a fall at a construction site in West End. He had been working for just three months before he died, and he was so proud to be able to help support his family. Tyler's grandfather wrote of his beloved beautiful grandson that 'words cannot describe the pain and complete numbness we are all experiencing, knowing that we needed to let him go'. These tragedies show the real and ever-present risks faced by construction workers. They deserve safe workplaces, proper protections and the confidence that their employers are looking out for them. Every worker in Australia deserves that.</para>
<para>Last year, Australian investigative journalists exposed horrific practices in parts of the construction industry, alleged links to organised crime, misuse of union roles, as well as reports of violence, intimidation and misogyny. Criminality has no place in the union movement. Workers deserve a union they can trust and be proud of. When I knocked on almost 15,000 doors during the last campaign, I can tell you the CFMEU was raised with me every single day. Deputy Speaker Haines, I will leave it to you to surmise why that was. My community made it very clear to me they do not support corruption and criminality. They do not support standover tactics, bullying and sexual harassment. They do not support intimidation or abuse of power. Those behaviours have no place in any workplace, not in construction, not anywhere. In thousands of conversations across Griffith, I consistently heard people want representatives who stand up against thuggery and corruption, not stand on the same stage as it.</para>
<para>The Albanese government has been clear from the outset that there is no place for criminality, bullying, thuggery and intimidation in any workplace, including in the construction industry. The construction division of the CFMEU clearly failed to act in the best interests of its members and urgent action was needed, which the Albanese Labor government has delivered. We could not stand by and allow a once-proud union to be infiltrated by bikies and organised crime, or have bullying and thuggery part of its day-to-day business.</para>
<para>These problems did not appear overnight. They were deeply embedded and decades in the making, and we are determined to clean them up, which was why the construction division of CFMEU was placed under administration. Already, the administration has achieved more progress in 15 months than the former coalition government's failed and discredited ABCC managed in an decade. More than 60 staff have been removed or resigned, a new national code of conduct is in place, a clear statement of expectations now sets out where the union stands on gifts, organised crime and menacing behaviour, and what the consequences are for crossing that line. Investigations are ongoing into state branches, financial misconduct and cultural failings. The work is challenging, detailed and essential to restoring integrity in the sector, because all workers deserve unions that represent them honestly and protect them fearlessly, not ones that exploit or intimidate them.</para>
<para>Employers, contractors, unions all have a role to make this industry safe, fair and productive. That is why we have established the national construction industry forum to bring together unions, business and government around one table. We will keep doing the work with law enforcement regulators and people across the country to return construction to what should be—a sector where workers like those in our community can feel safe, respected and supported. That's the standard my community expects, it is the standard I expect and it is the standard this government is committed to delivering.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>282335</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The time allotted for this debate has expired. The debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made in order of the day for the next sitting.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS</title>
        <page.no>160</page.no>
        <type>STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Freedom of Information</title>
          <page.no>160</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:00</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr WILKIE</name>
    <name.id>C2T</name.id>
    <electorate>Clark</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Australians rightly expect their governments to operate openly and transparently, so you can understand the community's frustration with this Labor government, which the Centre for Public Integrity recently assessed as failing on five of six integrity indicators and which they described as 'leaning into a culture of secrecy'. That's a very good description, because we haven't so much seen, simply, a brazen attempt to wind back transparency in one go; instead, we've seen a much more insidious pattern than that. Indeed, we've seen a combination of inertia on critical reforms, a fear of upsetting vested interests and a fetishisation of secrecy, driven in part, I would suggest, by hubris on the part of the re-elected Labor government.</para>
<para>But sunlight is the best disinfectant, and that's why we need increased transparency around ministerial diaries and past sponsorships, why FOIs should be made easier, not harder, and why we need to finally progress meaningful reforms to whistleblower protections, political donations and jobs-for-mates appointments. While we're at it, media freedom laws wouldn't go astray either. Any government serious about doing its job well should embrace transparency, not fear it, because transparency builds public trust, keep decision-makers honest and helps prevent the sorts of blunders, cover-ups and groupthink that often end up costing us all.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Raise Foundation, Moreton Electorate: Community Organisations</title>
          <page.no>160</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:01</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CAMPBELL</name>
    <name.id>312823</name.id>
    <electorate>Moreton</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Just a few short months ago I had the great pleasure of attending the Raise youth mentoring graduation at Corinda State High School. Corinda state high is one of 10 schools in Brisbane participating in the program. It's a program that began in 2008. It has supported over 16,000 vulnerable 13- to 15-year-olds and has trained over 11,000 mentors. It's all about an early intervention strategy to increase social and emotional wellbeing for young people. I congratulate the young people who participated, as well as the mentors.</para>
<para>Sadly, the Moorooka Bowls Club, in my electorate, closed in May 2019. It had a proud history. It hosted the Commonwealth Games lawn bowls in 1982, and Queen Elizabeth II visited it then as well. In 2021 a massive volunteer led effort was undertaken to restore the club, and now Clubhouse Moorooka is a hub for our community. I want to thank all of the fantastic volunteers who make that club hum.</para>
<para>Benarrawa, a wonderful community organisation in my local electorate, recently had their 40th anniversary. They had a celebration of their fantastic local community work. They're great when it comes to resources to help locals prepare for, respond to and recover from disasters, house by house, street by street, in our community.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Raise Our Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>161</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:03</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BOELE</name>
    <name.id>26417</name.id>
    <electorate>Bradfield</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Today I'm reading a speech I selected from entrants in the Raise Our Voice competition. This speeches from 13-year-old Kaya. She writes: 'Right now, too many young Australians are struggling. It's a silent crisis that affects our future. In 2023, anxiety was the leading health burden for young females, while, tragically, suicide and self-inflicted injuries led for young males. Despite one in five seeking support, a concerning 10 per cent did not receive the help they desperately needed. Last year alone, 298 people aged 18 to 24 lost their lives to suicide, alongside 94 children and adolescents. These deaths now represent over 30 per cent of all fatalities in these age groups. Why should we care? Because these are our children, our siblings, our friends. We need a tomorrow where every young person feels seen, where they feel supported—a future where asking for help is normal, not a weakness. So what should the government do? First, make mental health support truly accessible. This means more qualified counsellors, in every school. It means free, immediate access to psychologists, no long waiting lists. Second, invest heavily in early intervention. Teach emotional literacy from a young age. Launch powerful public campaigns. Break down the stigma around mental health. By acting decisively today, we empower young Australians to thrive. We build a strong, healthier and much more hopeful tomorrow—for everyone.'</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Janssen, Mr Wyn</title>
          <page.no>161</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:04</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BYRNES</name>
    <name.id>299145</name.id>
    <electorate>Cunningham</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Mr Wyn Janssen has dedicated nearly three decades to improving aged-care services in our region, and he has just concluded his remarkable tenure as chair of Warrigal. Since joining the board in 1997, Wyn has transformed Warrigal into one of Australia's leading aged-care providers. Under his leadership, Warrigal has grown from serving 727 residents to supporting more than 4,500 older Australians through residential care, community villages, home services and social programs. The organisation expanded from 438 staff to over 2,000 employees and 525 volunteers, operating across the Illawarra, Southern Highlands, Queanbeyan and the ACT.</para>
<para>Financially, Wyn guided Warrigal from a deficit position to a robust organisation, with revenues exceeding $335 million. His commitment to excellence has seen Warrigal recognised nationally, including as Employer of Choice for Women for nine consecutive years and twice as National Aged Care Provider of the Year. In 2024, Warrigal achieved a triple win at the Illawarra Business Awards, including as Business of the Year.</para>
<para>Wyn's legacy is one of compassion, innovation and community service. His decades of voluntary leadership have improved the lives of thousands of older Australians and their families. I thank Wyn Janssen for his extraordinary contribution.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Racism</title>
          <page.no>161</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:06</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CHANEY</name>
    <name.id>300006</name.id>
    <electorate>Curtin</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>This is a speech prepared by Riyan Naveed for my Curtin Youth Advisory Group about his experience as a young Muslim man in Australia. He says:</para>
<quote><para class="block">I was 6 when I was physically assaulted because of my colour, not by another kid, but by an adult woman.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">I was 11 when I heard strangers slander my mum behind her back, simply because she chose to cover her hair.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">I was 13 when I was· first called a terrorist.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">At that point, I accepted that I would always face the racist stereotypes that poison our society, no matter who I was.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">It's become repetitive and I'm tired of being the victim. My silence allows hatred to grow and that's not a risk I'm willing to take.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Since October 7, reports of lslamophobia have more than doubled … with a 1300% surge in incidents.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">¾ targeted the innocent Islamic Australian women and children whose freedom of religion our government has failed to protect.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Comedy is the sheath that conceals the blade of racism and as a Muslim voice in my generation, I believe it's my vocation to ensure that 'it's a joke' is no longer a valid excuse.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">It's on the government to teach people by renewing the education system, introducing programs like NAIDOC week, ultimately extinguishing the flames of hate speech by embracing diversity.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Actions speak louder than words. It's time to break the stereotypes, because there is no room for racism in our country.</para></quote>
<para>Thank you, Riyan, for sharing that with the parliament.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Stewart &amp; Heaton Clothing Company</title>
          <page.no>162</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:07</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms MASCARENHAS</name>
    <name.id>298800</name.id>
    <electorate>Swan</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Where do firefighters find their outfits? Guess where they find them? Right here in Australia, thanks to Stewart & Heaton, a proudly local, family owned business, which has been keeping our frontline heroes looking smart for more than 30 years. Alongside the Minister for Small Business, I was proud to visit Stewart & Heaton in Belmont. Not only did we get to see female coppers getting to check out their uniforms for the very first time; we also saw a company that was deeply committed to innovation, safety and local jobs.</para>
<para>Stewart & Heaton sells and manufactures high-performance protective clothing for firefighters and emergency services right across Australia. Their gear is designed for Aussie conditions—made to withstand some of the toughest environments—and tailored to those who put themselves in harm's way to protect us. This is a great example of what happens when we back local manufacturing. It means jobs in our community, it means world-class products made right here at home, and it means our emergency services are equipped with gear that they can trust.</para>
<para>As we celebrate the work of our firefighters, let's also celebrate businesses like Stewart & Heaton who support them. I thank Simon Stewart and the whole team. And who knew that the Minister for Small Business's dad was also a textile engineer? So cool!</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Raise Our Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>162</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:09</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms PRICE</name>
    <name.id>249308</name.id>
    <electorate>Durack</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Today I'd like to recognise Heidi, whose submission was Durack's chosen entry in this year's Raise Our Voice campaign. This is what Heidi wrote:</para>
<quote><para class="block">My name is Heidi, and I'm writing on behalf of the Hedland Youth Advisory Council. We are a group of young leaders aged 15 to 20 who provide insight and advice on issues affecting young people in Hedland.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">To prepare this submission, we consulted with the young people of Hedland to identify the most pressing challenges in our community.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">The top concerns were better healthcare, reducing racism, and most significantly affordable and accessible housing. Housing is the issue that most directly impacts our daily lives.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">As a young person, I've seen my own family forced to move multiple times due to rising rental costs.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">While large companies like BHP can offer subsidised housing to employees, many smaller businesses cannot, leaving workers and their families struggling to find affordable homes.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">This housing stress affects our young people's lives and their families' ability to meet basic needs like food, water and clothing.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Port Hedland is the exporting powerhouse of Australia and is a major contributor to Australia's economy. Yet many young people here face barriers to a stable and secure life.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">We urge members of Parliament to take meaningful action to improve living conditions for young people in regional and remote areas like ours.</para></quote>
<para>Awesome speech, Heidi. Well done! You have now been heard.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Netball</title>
          <page.no>162</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:11</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr FREELANDER</name>
    <name.id>265979</name.id>
    <electorate>Macarthur</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Female participation in sport has grown exponentially in Australia over the past decade, with hundreds of thousands of young girls and women from across south-west Sydney and the wider Australia having joined their local sporting clubs across varying sporting codes. One sport in particular, netball, continues to grow and is the biggest team sport for women and girls in Australia. I'm a huge netball fan and I love watching my wife, my daughters and now my granddaughters play netball, and I proudly support family members when they play for their local teams.</para>
<para>As a medical professional I'm always in favour of people finding ways and means to remain socially and physically active. That's why I'm a proud supporter of Netball Australia's mission to get netball into the Brisbane Olympic Games in 2032. I believe it's time to stop pivoting and for netball to be included in the Brisbane Olympics. It's time that the Australian Olympic Committee and the International Olympic Committee recognise the Australian passion that is netball, and, to help promote local clubs and competitions, netball deserves its place among the world's greatest sports at the Brisbane 2032 Games.</para>
<para>We've seen new sports being added to the Olympic Games in the past. The additions have helped promote those sports to new audiences around the world, so Brisbane 2032 is the perfect opportunity to show the world our passion and skill for this wonderful game. I encourage anyone who shares my passion to head to the Netball Australia website and sign their petition. Together we can help promote and support Australian athletes.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Bunbury: Relay for Life</title>
          <page.no>162</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:12</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr SMALL</name>
    <name.id>291406</name.id>
    <electorate>Forrest</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Five million dollars over 23 years is the incredible legacy that Relay for Life has in Bunbury. This last weekend it was a pleasure to join the south-west pocket rocket and my predecessor, Nola Marino, in the official opening of the 23rd edition of Bunbury's Relay for Life. It's far more than a fundraiser; it's a powerful beacon of hope for those across the South West community afflicted or touched in some way by cancer.</para>
<para>The sheer scale of volunteer commitment and funds raised over the last 23 years has been truly staggering. A key driver of cutting-edge research for cancer, the research focuses not only on finding a cure but to pioneer treatments that are more effective and less harsh on patients. It ensures that more people can live with, and hopefully survive, a cancer diagnosis while maintaining a meaningful quality of life for themselves, their families and their friends.</para>
<para>This year the dedication of Bunbury truly broke all records. My sincere congratulations to the outgoing chair, Emily McKelvie, along with her organising committee whose leadership and passion brought the event together once more. Their collective effort enabled 52 fundraising teams involving some 541 Relayers to keep their batons moving for a full 24 hours. Having set a goal of $200,000, they truly smashed it by raising an astonishing $278,369. It really is Forrest at its finest.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Medicare</title>
          <page.no>163</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:13</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms STANLEY</name>
    <name.id>265990</name.id>
    <electorate>Werriwa</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Medicare as we know it began on 1 February 1984. It had its origins in the Whitlam government—when he introduced Medibank. That scheme was abolished by the Fraser government in 1981, resulting in a privatised Medibank. Labor has always championed universal health care no matter its name, and conservatives way back to Fraser have always sought to undermine it. Why they do this is a mystery, because few if any programs enjoy as much support as Medicare. Regardless Labor will always have Medicare's back, and integral to growing that is bulk-billing. Labor went to this year's election with a bold commitment to bolster bulk-billing, and, for an increasing number of Australians, that's exactly what happened from 1 November. The only thing that they will need when they go to their GP is a Medicare card, and their credit card will remain in their pocket. In Werriwa in the June quarter of 2025, the bulk-billing rate was a terrific 94.9 per cent. As at 27 October 2025, 17 GP practices have indicated their intent to become full Medicare bulk-billing practices. Significantly, six of these are currently mixed billing practices. So, after a decade of cuts, Medicare is back on track, with increased funding and bulk-billing. That's great news for all Australians.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Energy</title>
          <page.no>163</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:15</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms PENFOLD</name>
    <name.id>248895</name.id>
    <electorate>Lyne</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Labor's net zero mandate is failing Australians. Electricity prices are up 39 per cent, gas prices up 46 per cent, real wages have dropped to 2011 levels and manufacturing is retreating or seeking bailouts to survive. Over 7,000 direct jobs in heavy industry have been lost since 2020 and 73,000 more are at risk, like those at Tomago. Meanwhile, there are thousands of wind turbines, millions of solar panels and kilometres of new transmission lines popping up all over rural and forested landscapes. We've lost 7.2 million hectares of farmland as our farmers and rural industries are made to do the heavy lifting. Australia has cut emissions by 24 per cent since 2005, yet like countries have cut them by only 14 per cent. The cost of Labor's reckless renewables rollout is at least $1.32 trillion, a cost we each bear. And all this is for a contribution to global emissions of just one per cent.</para>
<para>Our energy system can be cheaper, better and fairer. We can put Australians first by putting lower energy prices first. We can do this by unleashing all of our energy sources, including coal, gas, nuclear and renewables, and using technology to abate carbon. We can take practical action our way to protect and enhance the environment.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Jackson Court Traders Association</title>
          <page.no>163</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:16</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr NG</name>
    <name.id>316052</name.id>
    <electorate>Menzies</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to congratulate the Jackson Court Traders Association on a very successful Halloween Spooktacular. I popped down to Jackson Court in Doncaster East on Friday with my kids. My daughter was dressed as a little witch, my youngest was a little grim reaper and I had a Mario hat. It was clear from the moment I arrived that the event was a roaring success. Jackson Court was absolutely packed with kids dressed up as werewolves, superheroes and aliens. There was a little dog dressed as a pumpkin. The court had been decorated with cobwebs and skeletons. There were dinosaurs roving around, animatronic monsters and face painting. All the stalls were open and giving out sweets to kids and giving them stamps to encourage them to visit all the traders and finish the trick-or-treat trail.</para>
<para>It was heaps of fun, but I know that it took a lot of work on the part of the Jackson Court Traders Association. It wasn't just about providing a great event for children. It was about promoting local businesses and connecting the community with some of those local businesses, like Sportsafe mouthguards, Royal Stacks hamburgers, Three Monkeys Place and all the traders in Jackson Court. I say thank you especially to Con, the president of the Jackson Court traders for playing such a big role in organising everything. We are really lucky to have an entrepreneurial and innovative but also community-minded business sector in Menzies.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Mobility Devices for Fiji</title>
          <page.no>163</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:18</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr RICK WILSON</name>
    <name.id>198084</name.id>
    <electorate>O'Connor</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to commend a great community initiative called Mobility Devices for Fiji, which will be launched this Friday at the Albany show in the Great Southern region of O'Connor. Mobility Devices for Fiji is the brainchild of Joseph Raikoti, a disability support worker with Community Living Australia and a proud Fijian-born Australian living in Albany. This project will deliver mobility equipment from the electorate of O'Connor to our friends in Fiji. It's a project I'm proud to support in conjunction with the Rotary Club of Albany City, Scott Leary MLA and the City of Albany.</para>
<para>In the course of his work, Joseph noticed that a surplus of mobility equipment was no longer being used or had been discarded or sent to landfill. He thought the life of this equipment could be extended and the equipment used in communities in and around Suva through his connection with the Fiji Disabled Peoples Federation. Mobility Devices for Fiji will be collecting wheelchairs, walkers, sticks, crutches, walking frames and shower chairs, with the aim of delivering them to Fiji in the first half of 2026. I'm proud to endorse this practical O'Connor project that will deliver important social outcomes in Fiji and strengthen the links between the people and organisations of our two great countries.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Whitlam Electorate: Tourism</title>
          <page.no>164</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:19</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BERRY</name>
    <name.id>23497</name.id>
    <electorate>Whitlam</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to acknowledge and celebrate one of Shellharbour's most treasured businesses: Stand Up Paddle Boarding Shellharbour. If you've seen the stunning waters of Lake Illawarra, you will know what makes this experience so special. Behind this highly successful business is the passion and energy of its owner and head instructor, Bec Dunning . Bec's dedication to sharing the joy of stand up paddle boarding with both locals and visitors alike has built not just a thriving business but a vibrant community on the water. Her commitment to excellence was recognised when Stand Up Paddle Boarding Shellharbour was named a finalist in the New South Wales Tourism Awards in the adventure tourism category, an achievement that shines the spotlight not only on Bec's business but also on Shellharbour as a visited destination.</para>
<para>Bec is a wonderful advocate for our region. Bec was the driving force behind the successful Shellharbour Stand Up Paddle Boarding Festival, which was on this weekend at the beach at Warilla Beach and Reddall Reserve. Last month she won the open women's title as well as her third over-40 title at the Australian Stand Up Paddle Boarding Championships. Bec is such a dynamic person and such an asset to the Shellharbour region. I congratulate Bec on her success, as well as everyone who makes Stand Up Paddle Boarding Shellharbour such an inspiring part of our community.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Durack Electorate: Roads</title>
          <page.no>164</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:21</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms PRICE</name>
    <name.id>249308</name.id>
    <electorate>Durack</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The Albanese Labor government is once again proving how out of touch it is with regional Australia. Labor is seeking feedback on a proposed reduction of speed limits on regional roads from 100 kilometres an hour to 70 kilometres an hour. Let me be clear, this is not about road safety. It is not a road safety policy; it's a productivity killer, nothing more and nothing less. Across Durack from the Pilbara to the Kimberley, the mid-west and throughout the Gascoine going to the Wheatbelt, our roads are already deteriorating at an alarming rate. Instead of properly funding maintenance upgrades, Labor's answer is simply to slow everyone down. People in Durack are already battling rising costs. They don't need a city-centric policy that hurts local jobs and makes everyday life that little bit harder.</para>
<para>In my electorate, long-distance travel is not just a choice; it is a necessity. Cutting speed limits by 30 kilometres an hour will not fill a single pothole or strengthen a single bridge. Labor has slashed funding for regional roads, reducing the Commonwealth contribution for regional roads projects from 80 per cent to 50 per cent, ending the Local Roads and Community Infrastructure Program and abolishing the Roads of Strategic Importance Initiative. Regional Australians deserve investment, not more roadblocks from Canberra, and I urge everyone to have their say on the proposed changes. Submissions close 10 November. Your voice is important, let Labor know what you think.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Maher, Mr Tony</title>
          <page.no>164</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:22</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr REPACHOLI</name>
    <name.id>298840</name.id>
    <electorate>Hunter</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Today I want to speak about a bloke who has given his heart and soul to trade union movement, Tony Maher. For almost three decades Tony has been at the helm of the mighty Mining and Energy Union, standing up for workers in one of the toughest and proudest industries in this country. To spend 27 years leading this union is no small thing. That is 27 years of wins for miners and energy workers and their families, not just in pay and conditions but in dignity, respect and the right to be heard.</para>
<para>Tony has fought for fair pay, safer workplaces and stronger future for our energy community. He has stood by workers through industry change, community battles at times when others would have walked away. He helped make same job, same pay a reality, and made sure the voices of the coal, gas and power station workers were heard in every boardroom and every parliament across this country. He has done it all with guts, integrity and a fierce belief in what a union stands for—honest, militant, democratic trade unionism.</para>
<para>Tony, your leadership has shaped not just the MEU but the entire Australian labour movement. You have mentored a generation of unionists and left the movement stronger than when you found it. On behalf of us all, I want to thank you for decades of service, courage and commitment to the members of our great union. Enjoy your well-earned retirement, mate. I can't wait to have a beer with you soon.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Casey Electorate</title>
          <page.no>165</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:24</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr VIOLI</name>
    <name.id>300147</name.id>
    <electorate>Casey</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>With Christmas fast approaching, many locals are worried about how they will put presents under the tree and food on the table. I am proud to be working with the Rotary Club of Lilydale to once again launch their Christmas gift wishing tree appeal. My office is a drop-off point to donate toys and gifts to make Christmas a little brighter for families. Rotary works alongside Yarra Ranges police and Anchor Community Care to distribute gifts to vulnerable families, including those in foster care and kinship care. These gifts are often the only presents these children will receive. So, if you can, please give a Christmas gift to a child in our local community.</para>
<para>This Christmas, I'm working with local homelessness organisation Holy Fools to help them reach their goal of 150 hampers for families in need. These food hampers are not just about food; it's about the nourishment of knowing someone cares about them. There is a shopping list of items on the Holy Fools website which includes things like long-life milk, custard, coffee, tea and Christmas cakes. If you're able to add a few extra items to your shopping trolley, they can be dropped off at my office or in the purple bins around our community. Let's work together to ensure no-one goes without this Christmas.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Economy</title>
          <page.no>165</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:25</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms TEESDALE</name>
    <name.id>314526</name.id>
    <electorate>Bass</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>No federal government in living memory has done more than the Albanese Labor government to support and strengthen Tasmania. We've invested $3.8 billion for the Marinus Link project to boost renewable energy transmission on both sides of Bass Strait, lifting Tassie internet speeds along the way. We're boosting the Tasmanian Freight Equalisation Scheme by 25 per cent over two years. This means Tasmanian businesses and workers are not penalised by distance. We've defended Tassie jobs and industry from short-term threats to viability and backed in a low-carbon future. That includes $24 million to electrify and modernise the Boyer paper mill, the oldest still in operation anywhere in Australia. This secures 300 jobs directly and a further 1,000 jobs down the supply chain.</para>
<para>The government has committed $81.6 million to the Tasmanian Freight Rail Revitalisation scheme to better deliver statewide freight capacity and firm up local freight industry supply chains. We've invested in the Nyrstar zinc smelter in Hobart. But I know that these are uncertain times for people in my electorate—for the workers at both Liberty Bell Bay and Bell Bay Aluminium and their families, connected local businesses and our broader community. That's why I'm working very closely with Senator Ayres to help both the Liberty Bell Bay manganese smelter and the Bell Bay Aluminium facility to navigate these choppy waters. The truth is that Tasmanians and mainlanders are stronger when we're working together to secure the future.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Volunteering</title>
          <page.no>165</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:27</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr YOUNG</name>
    <name.id>201906</name.id>
    <electorate>Longman</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to speak today about an important matter concerning the Australian Narrow Gauge Railway Museum Society—or ANGRMS, as they're commonly known—and the Woodford Railway. ANGRMS, which is a not-for-profit organisation, operates entirely through the dedication of volunteers who are passionate about preserving and running the iconic steam train on the Woodford rail line. These volunteers selflessly give their time and effort to keep a treasured piece of our local history alive. Recently, volunteers have been asked to self-fund sleep apnoea tests, which cost approximately $1,500 each. While we all understand and support the importance of safety, especially when it comes to operating any rail service, requiring every volunteer on a 15-minute closed track—one that is very low risk—to undergo this expensive test seems excessive. This is just another added cost and more red tape to cripple small not-for-profit organisations.</para>
<para>The Woodford rail society also operates with two drivers, further reducing any safety concerns. Terry and Ryan from the Woodford organisation, who visited me recently, also highlighted that 12 other rail lines in Queensland face similar challenges, which raises broader concerns for the future of volunteer-run heritage railways across the state. The steam train is a cultural icon in the area, and the hope is that these new requirements do not inadvertently threaten the continuation of this beloved heritage service. We support safety but urge a balanced approach that protects both the wellbeing of our volunteers and the preservation of our local history.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Health Care</title>
          <page.no>165</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:28</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr HOLZBERGER</name>
    <name.id>88411</name.id>
    <electorate>Forde</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I remember some advice that Peter Duncan, the former member for Makin, gave me ages ago: with politics, you come into it and you think you're going to change the world, but it's actually really about the changes you make for individuals at a constituent level. But every now and then a policy comes along and it's such a great honour to be a part of it that actually really does change the world—that's the incentives that the government has introduced for bulk-billing. I have never in my time in politics as an observer or as a participant witnessed a policy have such an immediate and positive impact as this one.</para>
<para>I had the great pleasure of being able to ring around the clinics in Forde the other day. Out of 45 clinics, we started off with nine bulk-billing on Friday, but on Saturday that number had gone to 20. That was an increase from about 19 per cent to 43 per cent overnight in the clinics that now bulk-bill. That's more than doubling the number of clinics that bulk-bill in Forde. I'd like to say thank you to Dr Danish and Dr Murtaza at the Holmview Doctors and Skin Cancer Clinic, who showed me around and told me that they were just waiting for something like this to come in to be able to fully bulk-bill. They know that, in our community, people need full bulk-billing. They know that, in our community, working families won't go and see the doctor if it means that they have to pay for it, because it's either that or feed your kids. This is a measure that not only relieves the cost-of-living pressures but improves the health of our community.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Incorporated</title>
          <page.no>166</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:30</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms ALDRED</name>
    <name.id>11788</name.id>
    <electorate>Monash</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>As we approach Remembrance Day, our nation pauses to honour those who gave their lives in defence of our freedom. In my electorate of Monash, we've got the Fallen Diggers group, led by Tony Moon and Andrew Moon, his brother, who are based in Korumburra. They lead a passionate national group of volunteers who play a really important role in preserving the legacy of our diggers.</para>
<para>They do this through a number of initiatives Australia-wide and internationally: they research and document the stories of service men and women, they support the restoration and maintenance of war graves and they help families reconnect with the history of their loved ones. Their mission is to ensure every missing soldier receives a dignified and honourable burial, the respect and recognition these courageous men and women deserve. Their team is relentless in their pursuit, vowing not to rest until all avenues are exhausted to locate and identify the missing. There are still over 30,000 Australian soldiers unaccounted for from two world wars. In recent years, Fallen Diggers has successfully identified and recovered many Australian soldiers previously missing.</para>
<para>Remembrance Day is more than just a moment's silence; it is an ongoing act of national gratitude.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>World Teachers Day</title>
          <page.no>166</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:31</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BRISKEY</name>
    <name.id>263427</name.id>
    <electorate>Maribyrnong</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Last week we celebrated World Teachers Day, a moment to recognise the people who give so much to our communities. I recognise the teachers of my two daughters, Gwenevieve and Margot, who are in the gallery today.</para>
<para>Since being elected in May, I've had the privilege of visiting schools right across Maribyrnong, visiting principals, teachers and support staff, who go above and beyond every day. What stands out in every school is the genuine care that they have for their students. Whether it's finding new ways to engage a class, staying late to plan lessons or supporting a child who's struggling, teachers never stop giving. They do it because they care deeply about their students, their families and their communities.</para>
<para>We also know that dedication isn't enough on its own. Teachers deserve the right support, the right resources and the right opportunities to do their best work in the classroom every day. That's why the Albanese Labor government is putting every public school in Australia on a path to full and fair funding through our 10-year Better and Fairer Schools Agreement. We're lifting the Commonwealth's contribution to every public school so they have the resources they need not just to keep up but to get ahead and to give every child the opportunity to succeed. This $407.5 million investment over the next four years, and more than $7.2 billion over the next decade, is tied to practical, evidence based reforms that will deliver for our schools and, most importantly, for our wonderful students.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Saluting Their Service Commemorative Program</title>
          <page.no>166</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:33</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BOYCE</name>
    <name.id>299498</name.id>
    <electorate>Flynn</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>My great-uncle Leslie Boyce was awarded the Military Cross at the Battle of Passchendaele in the First World War. His official citation reads:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Awarded Military Cross, 18th December 1917 for conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty when in command of his platoon during an attack and of the company after reaching the objective, all other officers being killed or wounded. He remained in command for two days, consolidating position and repelling counterattacks.</para></quote>
<para>He is a fine example of Australia's defence and veteran history.</para>
<para>The Flynn electorate is full of incredible veterans, and I'd like to acknowledge defence personnel past and present for their service to our nation, particularly those who made the ultimate sacrifice. If you are a veteran or a family member of a veteran in the Flynn electorate, you may be eligible to apply for a certificate of appreciation through the Saluting Their Service Commemorative Program. These certificates are issued as a gesture of thanks, recognising the invaluable military service of those who served overseas in Australia's defence forces from the Second World War onwards in wars, in conflicts, in peacekeeping operations or on the home front. More information about this program can be found on the Department of Veterans' Affairs website or by contacting one of our offices. Lest we forget.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Foster Care</title>
          <page.no>167</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:34</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms WITTY</name>
    <name.id>316660</name.id>
    <electorate>Melbourne</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Being a foster carer is an incredibly fulfilling job, or should I say volunteer position, and one of the most difficult challenges someone can undertake. To bring into your home a child in need is one of the greatest acts of care there is. To care for kids in out-of-home care is the honour of a lifetime.</para>
<para>I recently had the privilege of launching the Parliamentary Friends of Foster Carers and Children in Foster Care group. Along with my co-chairs, we gathered voices from across the broad foster care community, from advocacy groups, like Families Australia and the National Foster Care Sustainability Group, through to foster children themselves. Those voices are the most important of all. One child that I met said that all she wanted to do was to be able to get a photo taken with the group. She wasn't allowed because of her being in foster care. She just wanted to be like everybody else.</para>
<para>Every story was a reminder that behind the policies and programs, there are lives shaped by care, patience and empathy. Getting to hear those stories, like so many I've heard as a foster carer, reminds me of the importance of the work I've come to do in this parliament: to advocate for children in foster care, to support the carers who give them so much of their time and energy, and to remind the parliament that our policies affect real people. That is why I will keep working to make sure that every child in every care has a voice in this place.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>McPherson Electorate: St Andrews Lutheran College</title>
          <page.no>167</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:36</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr REBELLO</name>
    <name.id>316547</name.id>
    <electorate>McPherson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I recently had the privilege of visiting St Andrews Lutheran College to attend their IB Primary Years Program exhibition. Working in small groups, these year 6 students investigated real-world issues affecting Australians, and presented thoughtful, creative and innovative solutions.</para>
<para>One standout was a team tackling South Australia's algal bloom challenge. Sam, Rosie and Lyla, three passionate and impressive young scientists, presented 'BloomGuard', a creative science based concept to accelerate the breakdown of harmful algae while protecting aquatic life. Their proposal was developed over nine weeks, under the guidance of a marine biologist and senior science teachers to test assumptions, refine their design and ground their curiosity in evidence. Their proposal involved a dissolvable, seed-like micro tablet delivering <inline font-style="italic">Pseudomonas </inline><inline font-style="italic">fluorescens</inline> to hasten algal decomposition, with an oxygen-releasing element to guard against oxygen depletion.</para>
<para>Other exhibitions were also strong, and covered issues like ebike safety and urban planning. I thank the teachers, staff and families for nurturing such strong student curiosity and critical thinking, and to these dedicated students I say: 'Continue to think outside the box. Test limits and never lose your commitment to making the world a better place. The future looks bright with young leaders like you.'</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Albanese Government</title>
          <page.no>167</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:37</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms LAWRENCE</name>
    <name.id>299150</name.id>
    <electorate>Hasluck</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Six months into our second term, and Labor is getting on with delivering for all Australians. For students, we have cut every university and TAFE debt by 20 per cent. For first home buyers, we have delivered five per cent home deposits with no mortgage insurance. For households, we've made batteries cheaper. For apprenticeships, we've kicked off our $10,000 incentive to get more homes built. For workers, we've secured a 3½ per cent minimum pay rise. And for every Australian, we've just delivered a record boost in Medicare, so everyone can see a GP for free.</para>
<para>Meanwhile, the Liberals have spent the last six months in a toxic situationship with the Nationals: breaking up; getting back together; breaking up again; factions fracturing. Between the reshuffles and the resignations, it's hard to keep up with which coalition spokesperson is breaking rank today. Case in point: while Labor has delivered a record investment in women's health care, in the rare instance the coalition does speak about women it's to undermine its own leader or, worse, to lecture women on choices about their bodies while actively trying to restrict them.</para>
<para>It's not all doom and gloom though, as the coalition has set their own record, too. Polling has their primary vote at a record low. So to Hasluck, I say thank you for your support and your confidence. I will continue fighting for you while those opposite fight themselves.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Energy</title>
          <page.no>167</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:39</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BIRRELL</name>
    <name.id>288713</name.id>
    <electorate>Nicholls</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Australia needs an energy plan that is cheaper, better and fairer. It is the responsibility of the government to ensure the prosperity of our nation. Energy is the economy, so to ensure the prosperity of our nation, the government needs to focus on making sure that energy is affordable and energy is reliable. This is particularly evident in my electorate of Nicholls, which has significant manufacturing facilities, both for food and for other goods, who are very reliant on energy, both electricity and gas. Those prices are going up significantly. Electricity prices are up by 39 per cent, and gas prices are up by 46 per cent. That threatens the viability of these industries in my electorate and manufacturing industries across Australia. When the viability of these industries in Australia is threatened, they don't just stop doing what they're doing; they pack up what they're doing in Australia and they go and do it somewhere else. Emissions stay high, but Australia's economic future is damaged irrevocably. We need a plan which is cheaper, better and fairer.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Climate Change</title>
          <page.no>168</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:40</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mrs ELLIOT</name>
    <name.id>DZW</name.id>
    <electorate>Richmond</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Acting on climate change is so vitally important. That's exactly what our government, the Albanese Labor government, is doing. It's a really important issue for my community, as it is right across the nation. It's so important for our environment and for the economic opportunities that it brings, particularly to those in regional Australia. In the regions, we are at the front line of climate change when it comes to natural disasters. In my area we had the severe 2022 floods. People in my region know we have to see action on climate change, and that's what the Albanese Labor government is doing. It's so important</para>
<para>Yet what we see from those across from us, the Liberals and the Nationals, is the National Party now abandoning net zero. That is just appalling and disappointing. People in my community are really annoyed about that because we know it's the regions that have so much to gain from acting on climate change. It's about the economic opportunities that are there as well as protecting our environment. It's only the Albanese Labor government that's taking that firm, decisive action when it comes to climate change.</para>
<para>You can particularly see it in our Cheaper Home Batteries Program. In my electorate we have one of the highest take-ups for New South Wales. I think, as of a few days ago, it was 1,233 and growing every single day. People right across my region and across the nation know that we need to act on climate change. Yet, disappointingly, we see the Nationals abandoning that and we see more infighting after a decade of inaction from them. They just keep continuing with their negativity when it comes to one of the most important issues of our time.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Kokoda Day</title>
          <page.no>168</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:42</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr LLEW O'BRIEN</name>
    <name.id>265991</name.id>
    <electorate>Wide Bay</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Today we observe Kokoda Day, which commemorates the day when, on 3 November 1942, the Australian flag was raised above Kokoda village. This year, on the 83rd anniversary of the end of the battle of the Kokoda Track, we honour the bravery and sacrifice of the Australian and Papua forces who fought a brutal seven-month campaign to stop the Japanese army from seizing Port Moresby and advancing towards the Australian mainland. They shifted the Pacific war from defence to offence. The Kokoda Track holds a deep significance for Australians. The 96-kilometre trail through the Owen Stanley Range in Papua New Guinea was the scene of fierce battles, where more than 600 Australian soldiers lost their lives and 1,600 were injured or struck down with tropical diseases like malaria, typhus and dengue fever. Around 2,000 native Papuans, the Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels, also lost their lives providing vital support to the Allies, moving supplies and carrying wounded troops to safety. Our brave soldiers endured unimaginable hardship as they fought a jungle war amid mud, blood, leeches and maggots, where the enemy was hidden by formidable terrain, thick foliage and driving rain. We honour and remember their bravery, their courage, their service and their sacrifice today, on Kokoda Day.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Lennie, Mr David Michael</title>
          <page.no>168</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:43</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr MATT SMITH</name>
    <name.id>312393</name.id>
    <electorate>Leichhardt</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to speak to the memory of my friend David Lennie, who tragically passed away aged 54 in September this year. David was known to the Cairns community as the man who ran the Cairns Community Christmas Lunch, a free lunch that last year fed over 500 people of varying backgrounds and demographics. It gave them a place to be with each other and provided joy. Over 120 volunteers came in at the behest of David and fed our community, gave refugees a place to stay and gave homeless people a day to feel wanted, valued and loved.</para>
<para>David was a man who believed in giving back to his community and did so in spades. He will be very much missed. I spoke to David in July to donate money so that the children who attended would have Christmas presents this year, and I looked forward to spending December with him, because the man's energy was infectious. He went from go to woah, doing 16-hour days in the lead-up to get everything ready at the boarding school and make sure that Christmas meant something to every single person in Cairns, no matter what their station was in life. Our community owes him a debt of thanks, and he will be very missed.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS</title>
        <page.no>168</page.no>
        <type>PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Regional Australia: Roads</title>
          <page.no>168</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:45</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr WEBSTER</name>
    <name.id>281688</name.id>
    <electorate>Mallee</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) condemns the Government's lack of transparency in its proposal to slash default regional road speed limits from 100 kilometres per hour to as low as 70 kilometres per hour, including its attempt to quietly progress the policy without proper public scrutiny;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) notes that the Government was forced, at the eleventh hour, to extend its abysmally short 28-day consultation period only after strong intervention from the Opposition;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(3) warns that the Government's proposal is a lazy, damaging approach that will slow regional Australia to a crawl, and drive up freight times and costs for farmers, transport operators and small businesses;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(4) highlights that instead of fixing the roads by funding maintenance for line-marking, road shoulders, rumble strips and pothole repairs, the Government is cutting the Local Roads and Community Infrastructure program from 1 July next year; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(5) calls on the Government to commit to consultation and genuine road safety improvements that protect lives without crippling regional productivity and national supply chains.</para></quote>
<para>I rise today to speak on an issue that strikes at the very heart of regional Australia: our roads, our livelihoods and our way of life. The Albanese Labor government has quietly launched a proposal to slash the default speed limit on regional roads from 100 kilometres per hour to as low as 70 kilometres. Let me be clear: this is not a road safety initiative. It is lazy, shortsighted policy that punishes regional Australians for the government's failure to maintain our rural roads.</para>
<para>This proposal was buried in a consultation process that began on 29 September without a press release, without public engagement and with an abysmally short 28-day window for feedback. It was only after strong pressure from the coalition that the government reluctantly extended the consultation to the standard 42 days. Even then, the extension was made quietly with no announcement—just a subtle change on the departmental website. This is not how good policy is made. This is not how you treat Australian people who are keeping our country moving.</para>
<para>Let's be honest about what this proposal really means. It means longer travel times for families trying to get their kids to school, to sport or to the doctor. It means longer travel times and higher freight costs for farmers and small businesses already doing it tough. It means regional tourism takes another hit, as visitors are deterred by longer and slower journeys. And for what? Because the government can't be bothered to fix rural roads. Instead of investing in proper maintenance—line marking, road shoulders, rumble strips, pothole repairs—Labor's solution is to simply slow everyone down. It's a bandaid on a gaping word. It's the easy way out.</para>
<para>While the government claims this is about safety, the truth is more ideological. Deep in the detail of the consultation documents, the true motivations for this proposal are revealed: reducing fuel consumption and—guess what—cutting emissions. Now I ask, since when did slowing down regional Australia become foundational to Australia's climate policy? It's clear that Minister Bowen's fingerprints are all over this. Having failed to meet his own unattainable emissions targets, he's now looking for shortcuts, literally. But regional Australians should not be made the scapegoats of Labor's desperate scramble to fudge the numbers. This is not just about speed limits; it's about priorities. And Labor's priorities are clearly to cut funding to the regions, shifting responsibility from their own emission reduction failings, increasing our road toll on their own watch and then hoping no-one notices.</para>
<para>Let's look at the facts. The government has cut the Local Roads and Community Infrastructure Program from July next year. They've cut Commonwealth funding for regional road projects from 80 per cent to 50 per cent. They've scrapped the Roads of Strategic Importance program. Across the nation, more than $30 billion in infrastructure projects have been cancelled, delayed or cut. In New South Wales alone, nearly $6 billion is gone. In Victoria, it's $5.5 billion. In Queensland, it's almost $3 billion. And the list goes on. Regional Australians are not asking for much. They're asking for safe roads. They're asking for fair funding. They're asking to be heard. We do not want to see a single life lost on our roads, but reducing speed limits without fixing roads is not the answer. It's a lazy substitute for real investment and real leadership.</para>
<para>So today I call on the government to abandon this misguided proposal. I urge every transport operator, every farmer, every small-business owner and regional council to make their voices heard before the consultation closes on 10 November. We are sending a clear message: regional Australians want and deserve safer roads, not slower roads. We want real solutions, not ideological shortcuts. And, above all, we want a government that listens, invests and respects the people who keep this country running.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>264170</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Is the motion seconded?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Conaghan</name>
    <name.id>279991</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion and reserve my right to speak.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:50</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ROB MITCHELL</name>
    <name.id>M3E</name.id>
    <electorate>McEwen</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>You won't find much more hypocrisy in this place than when listening to the Nationals complaining about road funding. I say this in absolute honesty. We've just heard five minutes of whining and complaining about something that was actually done by them. In 2018, the then deputy prime minister, Michael McCormack, the member for Riverina, had this specific plan laid out; as part of the National Road Safety Action Plan there was a commitment to lower speed limits. That comes on top of the fact that you would have thought a member from Victoria would have stood up during those nine years and complained about Victoria only getting seven per cent of the infrastructure spend nationally. But, no, there was absolute silence. It was okay to build a backlog of potholes and road repairs with no investment in Victoria because they were in government. Now, suddenly, it's: 'Oh, look at this. It's a big problem.'</para>
<para>You can't expect all this backlog to be fixed in five years. But what you can expect is a government to be out there working for rural and regional Australians, and that is why there are more Labor MPs in rural and regional seats than the National Party—because we got rid of those that sit around and do nothing. We got rid of those who just enjoy themselves here, creating havoc and delivering nothing. We saw more press releases on every single road project in Victoria than we did shovels or action. The number of times they went to an election promising to fund this and to fund that and to do all these things for rural and regional Australia—they didn't do a thing. The National Party is the absolute most disgraceful party you can think of for rural and regional Victoria.</para>
<para>When you look at every one of their seats, they have problems with education, with health and with jobs. The one consistency is re-voting in Nationals. That's why they are down to four per cent of the national vote—because they do not deliver. They're just a little tail on the back of the coalition dog, and all they do is wag and deliver nothing.</para>
<para>I look forward to the member for Riverina coming in and talking about how he looked at the Watson Street ramps as being so important in rural and regional Victoria. He promised it. He wanted to get behind it. But, of course, the knifings saw him removed for the member for New England—now the One Nation member for New England, I think. They saw that gone.</para>
<para>We saw him go to the election under the Urban Congestion Fund, the car park rorts fund, promising to build car parks in specific areas. A little known fact is that the three car parks they promised were already built. All they did was give money to Victoria to cover the work that was already done.</para>
<para>Then they promised to build new lanes on the Hume Freeway, and what did we get? We got a $50 million announcement with big fanfare. They even sent one of the National MPs down—that was the first time he'd been down to the Hume Freeway to see what was going on—promising $50 million for a new lane on the freeway. We know it was a zombie promise. If they think they can deliver 23 kilometres of dual road for $50 million, they have rocks in their heads. It wasn't going to happen, and they didn't deliver a single thing. They went to that election and the 2022 election lying to the people of McEwen, Nicholls and Indi about getting these things fix. They never delivered a thing.</para>
<para>What have we done? We have doubled the funding to Roads to Recovery. Since coming to government, Roads to Recovery has gone from $500 million to $1 billion this year. It's worth noting that, when we formed government in 2002, we learned that the coalition government, again through the sneakiness and the mischievous work of those opposite, had frozen maintenance to highways all the way back to 2013. That was the contribution the coalition government made towards essential maintenance on the highways that we all rely on. So what we've got is an absolute joke put up here by the member for Mallee about road funding and needing maintenance for potholes and all these other things. But, of course, the member didn't get up and say, 'Look, I was part of a government that froze that funding 10 years ago and caused backlogs for years and years.' It is a bit like the electricity bills. Those opposite complain about electricity bills but never once have you heard them get up and say, 'We are so sorry that we hid the price rises from the Australian public.' It is simply part of their DNA to be disrespectful to the Australian people by sneakily hiding price rises, because they did not want to go to an election and face the fact they had done nothing. This is an absolute failure of a government and that's why we're sitting where we are today. On every single measure on road funding, you can see our government has been delivering. We've delivered more roads, more road funding and more project results in three years than those opposite could muster up press releases in nine. It is an absolute joke, and, seriously, the member should apologise.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>16:55</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr CONAGHAN</name>
    <name.id>279991</name.id>
    <electorate>Cowper</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I had the privilege of being the chair of the road safety committee back in 2019-20. Further to that, I had the privilege of actually going to the third international road safety convention. There were representatives of countries from all around the world concentrating on how we reduce the significant road toll in every single country around the world. We know that in Australia alone last year there were around 1,200 deaths. Despite the efforts of governments, despite the efforts of councils, despite the efforts of agencies in the sector, nothing seems to budge.</para>
<para>There was a common thread and a shared international philosophy across four areas: first, people make predictable mistakes that can lead to road crashes; second, the human body has a limited physical ability to tolerate crash forces before harm occurs; third—this is the big one—a shared responsibility exists among those who fund, plan, design, build, manage and use roads and vehicles to prevent crashes that result in serious injury or death; and finally, all parts of the system must be strengthened to multiply their effects so, if one part fails, road users are still protected.</para>
<para>I'll go back to the third area: shared responsibility exists among those who fund—government, plan—government and design—government. We are now seeing that one part has failed—that is, the Labor government's funding to our regions to fix our roads. While the last speaker might have said, 'We're spending this much here and that much there,' the government is not spending it in our electorates, not spending it in Nationals electorates. I know because I go and speak to my mayors, the councils and the councillors, and I speak to our people who use those roads.</para>
<para>Imagine the outcry. Deputy Speaker Swanson, I would imagine you're getting the same outcry in your electorate. Our people are being told—victim shamed—'Your speed limits are going to be reduced from 100 kilometres an hour down to 70 kilometres an hour because you can't be trusted to drive on the same road you've been driving on for 30, 40, 50 years. You are too irresponsible to drive on that road, so we are going to reduce it to take care of you.' That is not the issue. We need to be respected in the regions. We need to be able to make our own decisions. This consultation—thanks for extending it by 28 days, Labor—is an affront. It is offensive to regional and rural people to say that they are too irresponsible to use the roads in their current state. Well, fix their state! Fix the roads! Come into our communities, Labor, and fund our roads. It is a little bit like Crocodile Dundee. Remember? He pulls out a knife, and Crocodile Dundee goes: 'That's not a knife. That's a knife!' Well, we've now got the same competition: 'That's not a pothole. That's a pothole!' That's what our communities are facing.</para>
<para>It is an affront to all those intelligent drivers in the regions—all those farmers, truck drivers and tradies, who know those roads like the back of their hands—to be told: 'We're going to go out and consult, and we're going to protect you from yourselves.' Well, Labor, you're out of touch. You say that the Nationals are out of touch. We know our people. You are out of touch with your electorates and our electorates and the crossbench electorates if you think you can walk into our communities and reduce the speed limit from 100 down to 70. We will not cop it. Fix the roads!</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:00</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mrs PHILLIPS</name>
    <name.id>147140</name.id>
    <electorate>Gilmore</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I love to talk about regional roads because I know how important roads are to people in my regional community. Everybody is talking about roads, even Cliff Hofman, who is a year 7 student at Bombaderry High School. Cliff won the Raise Our Voice competition in Gilmore, and last week I read out Cliff's speech in the Australian parliament. And you guessed it: Cliff's topic was about potholes and how he wants the local roads in the Shoalhaven to be fixed. I couldn't agree more with Cliff. That's why, after a decade of neglect by the former coalition government, the Albanese Labor government is delivering record investment funding for regional roads.</para>
<para>Since coming to government, we've doubled the Roads to Recovery Program from $500 million to $1 billion. This has already been baked into the budget and will remain at a high level into the future. This is a significant change which will provide more funding to local councils. I know that, in Gilmore, the Shoalhaven, Eurobodalla and Kiama councils rely on this funding—and now it's increased funding—to help fix local roads.</para>
<para>What I like about the Roads to Recovery Program is that councils determine which local roads are to be funded under the program, and there are some beautiful and important roads that have been fixed and are set to be fixed into the future. Just last week Eurobodalla council staff sent me their list of roads for 2025-26, and I can say it is an extensive list of local roads that is benefiting from this program. Well done, Eurobodalla council. I know locals in the Eurobodalla shire will be eagerly awaiting and thankful for those local roads being fixed with additional funds.</para>
<para>Despite writing to Shoalhaven City Council in July this year, requesting to be provided with regular updates on the $40 million Shoalhaven local roads package—funding that I secured as an election commitment and delivered in the October 2022 federal budget—I remain disappointed that Shoalhaven City Council has not provided me with that information. I am bemused by how something so simple, to provide simple information direct to me and the public in a regular and transparent way, can be so difficult. I know constituents in Gilmore would like a simple description of each of the six roads to be fixed and the estimated timelines for each road and intersection to be fixed. It's not that hard. We pay our rates and taxes.</para>
<para>The good news is we've also significantly increased funding for the Black Spots Program. This is a great program, which we've increased from $110 million to $150 million annually, supporting more life-saving road improvements across the country. All local councils in Gilmore have benefited from this program, and it's great to see more local roads being fixed under the Black Spots Program thanks to extra funding from the Albanese Labor government. The Local Roads and Community Infrastructure Program is also a fabulous federally funded program that helps local councils with projects such as roads, community halls, parks and sports facilities, bike paths and playgrounds, and it's terrific to see lots of great road and community infrastructure projects being funded in Gilmore under this program.</para>
<para>When it comes to the larger road infrastructure projects, which I have been fighting for, they are either in construction or finally progressing well. I'm proud to be part of the Albanese Labor government that is getting on with these important regional road projects. You can't miss the construction progress on the Jervis Bay flyover, which now has the concrete girders in place to support the new bridge. Pleasingly the new bridge is set to be open by mid next year, making the intersection safer, with the project set for full completion in 2027. This was made possible with $100 million in federal funding.</para>
<para>The Milton Ulladulla bypass is progressing well, with $752 million in federal funding. The Princes Highway duplication between the Jervis Bay turn-off and Tomerong is also progressing well, with $400 million in federal funding. And the Nowra bypass, after a decade of inaction from the Liberals, is in the early planning stage, with $97 million in federal funding. Whether it's providing more funding to help local councils with local roads or funding major roads projects, we're getting on with the job of fixing our regional roads.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:05</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr CHAFFEY</name>
    <name.id>316312</name.id>
    <electorate>Parkes</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Last week I rose to speak about the atrocious state of regional roads in this parliament, and I'll continue to rise to speak about this until the matter is attended to by this Albanese government. The latest move by the Albanese Labor government to cut road speed limits throughout regional Australia where there is no signpost to 70 kilometres an hour is a clear indication that they do not intend to provide the funding for councils to fix the gravel or the sealed roads in regional communities. Instead they're asking regional people to simply just drive slower. This is yet another very clear message to people who choose to live in rural, regional and remote communities that they simply don't matter to the Albanese government.</para>
<para>When you travel across many parts of regional Australia, such as the Parkes electorate, you often travel hundreds of kilometres to get to the next dot on the map. A trip to the supermarket in a remote area could be a trip longer than some urban Australians could contemplate taking in a full year. This means that many people who live in those areas, people who visit those areas and people who save lives and do business in those areas will not only be travelling on substandard roads but have to factor in significant extra time. This is extra time for emergency response, extra time and cost for freight and extra time to get goods to market. The Pastoralists' Association of the West Darling have said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">The long distance transportation of livestock should not be adversely impacted by inappropriately low speed limits.</para></quote>
<para>They noted that more time on trucks means worse animal welfare outcomes and a danger that trucks delayed by speed limits may not be able to make delivery curfews. The Pastoralists' Association of the West Darling feel so strongly about this issue that they have said there is a real risk this move will be used as the Albanese government's 'stalking horse' to cut road funding and maintenance repairs for regional communities.</para>
<para>Regional Australians should not accept that the condition of their roads is going backwards and they most certainly should not accept that this is all that can be done going forward. All 20 of the local government areas in my electorate have suffered some sort of natural disaster in the last four years and, as I've said before in this place, their applications under disaster-relief funding have been treated with contempt. Almost $150 million in funding has been knocked back for the roads in the Parkes electorate. I've asked the mayors and general managers of these councils—and I know just what impact that is having.</para>
<para>These councils are the ones who bear the brunt of the concerns of people when they cannot use the roads and are facing being told: 'It's all good. Just drive more slowly.' Dubbo Regional Council has been knocked back $20.6 million and is expected to fix the road damage. Lachlan shire has been told it won't get $29 million. Bourke Shire Council was denied $14.9 million. Narrabri Shire Council is looking at a $21.5 million shortfall and the Gunnedah shire is missing out on $4.7 million in funding which is needed. In their submission on the matter, the Bourke Shire Council said that the council continues to be frustrated by decision-makers that are 'ignoring the lived experience of longstanding shire residents' and looking for a one-size-fits-all solution. The council called for evidence based data to support its proposal.</para>
<para>The Country Mayors Association of NSW have announced that rural, regional and remote councils in New South Wales are 'unilaterally opposed' to the proposal to reduce speed limits. They have said the move would increase travel times and, along with this, the sense of isolation. It would also add road freight expenses and would overburden policing resources. In short, the Country Mayors Association have said that it represents an alarming disconnect between the Australian government and the real-world experience of users of regional, remote and rural roads.</para>
<para>It's not good enough to tell councils whose communities have suffered natural disasters, such as watching rivers of water over the roads in their communities, that this is just what they have to put up with and live with. Expecting councils to build infrastructure with less will lead to poorer outcomes. Cheaper is not better, and it's certainly not fairer.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:10</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms URQUHART</name>
    <name.id>231199</name.id>
    <electorate>Braddon</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>After a decade of neglect and underinvestment by the former coalition government, the Albanese Labor government is delivering record infrastructure investment to rebuild our regions and make our roads safer for all Australians. We're not just talking about change; we're actually delivering it. We understand that safe, reliable infrastructure is the backbone of thriving communities. That's why the Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development, Communications, Sport and the Arts is undertaking a comprehensive consultation process, engaging with road safety experts, industry leaders, local governments and, of course, everyday Australians. We've committed to a 10-year infrastructure investment pipeline that exceeds $120 billion, the largest and most sustainable infrastructure investment in our nation's history. This pipeline supports a program of nationally significant transport infrastructure projects across each state and territory, with a strong focus on regional Australia. As part of the 2025-26 budget, we allocated $8.6 billion under the infrastructure investment pipeline towards 22 new major projects that will directly benefit regional communities.</para>
<para>In Tasmania, we are investing $2.3 billion over the next decade to deliver transformative infrastructure upgrades across the state. This includes $628.8 million for the new Bridgewater Bridge, which officially opened in June 2025 and is already improving travel times and safety for thousands of Tasmanians who travel that every day, and $363.2 million for upgrades to the East and West Tamar highways, the Bass Highway and the Ridgley Highway.</para>
<para>When I talk about highways, I also talk about these roads that are in regional Tasmania. Many of them are in the area that I represent. There is $150 million to duplicate the Tasman Highway causeways, easing congestion and improving safety; $100 million for safety improvements to the iconic Great Eastern Drive; $82 million to expand the bulk minerals export facility at the Burnie port, supporting regional export and jobs; $80 million for bridge and road pavement replacements across the state; and $80 million for safety upgrades to the Lyell Highway, a vital route for those commuting to the west coast communities. In addition, the 2025-26 budget committed a further $345.2 million to seven new projects, which include improvements to the Ridgley Highway, another corridor to the west coast of Tasmania.</para>
<para>We're also backing Braddon's communities and industries by increasing support through the Tasmanian Freight Equalisation Scheme, our highway to the mainland. The Albanese Labor government has boosted TFES assistance by 25 per cent, delivering additional funding over the next two years. This targeted investment will help reduce freight costs for local producers, manufacturers and exporters, making it easier for Braddon businesses to compete, to grow and to create jobs.</para>
<para>In the electorate of Braddon, which I represent, we're seeing real results on the ground. Under phase 4 of the Local Roads and Community Infrastructure Program, eight local councils in Braddon received over $4 million to deliver priority road and community infrastructure projects: Central Coast Council, nearly $800,000; Circular Head Council, over $800,000; the city of Burnie, almost $500,000; Devonport City Council, over $500,000; King Island Council, over $400,000; Latrobe Council, over $300,000; Waratah-Wynyard Council, over $500,000; and the West Coast Council, over 300,000. These are rural, regional and remote areas in north-west Tasmania. Through the Black Spots Program, we're delivering $685,000 to improve dangerous intersections in Braddon and, under the Better Active Transport grant program, we're funding $1.27 million for stages 3 and 4 of the Spreyton connector in Devonport and $192,000 for the Wynyard to Smithton shared user trail feasibility study, supporting active transport and tourism.</para>
<para>Across the country, we are delivering for regional Australia. We have increased the Black Spot Program to $150 million annually, and created the Safer Local Roads and Infrastructure Program with $200 million per year to improve safety and productivity on local roads. We're investing in safer roads, stronger communities and a better future for Tasmanians and for regional Australia. We're listening to locals and delivering on our commitments.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:15</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms LANDRY</name>
    <name.id>249764</name.id>
    <electorate>Capricornia</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to speak on behalf of the people of Capricornia and regional Australians right across this nation. People are tired of being punished for living beyond the city limits. The Albanese Labor government's plan to slash default regional road speed limits to as low as 70 kilometres an hour is nothing short of lazy, short-sighted and damaging to regional Australia. Let's call this proposal what it really is: a Labor short cut dressed up as road safety.</para>
<para>Instead of repairing our roads, they want to reduce our speed. Labor's own proposal would see speed limits reduced on dirt, gravel or sealed roads that are in poor condition, and that says it all. They are admitting that our roads are in disrepair. They are admitting that the system is failing. But rather than fund maintenance, fix the potholes, reseal the shoulders, repaint the lines and install proper safety features, Labor's answer is simply to tell Australians to drive slower. That is not leadership; that is laziness. It is the latest chapter in the pattern of lazy Labor, a party that wraps everything in red, green and black tape, that prefers slogans to substance.</para>
<para>When the government first floated this plan, they gave Australians just 28 days to respond—a completely inadequate timeframe. Only after pressure from the coalition did they extend that consultation period. That's not transparency, that's panic. This policy will have real-world consequences. It will slow regional Australia to a crawl. For farmers, truckies, tradies and small business operators, time is money. For every extra 30 or 40 minutes added to a delivery, there are higher freight costs, longer work days and less productivity. That translates directly into high prices for consumers and smaller profits for local operators already battling cost-of-living pressures.</para>
<para>Let's talk about the economic impacts. Poor road conditions already drive up fuel consumption and wear and tear on vehicles. Slowing traffic on top of that just compounds the problem. The result? Increased vehicle operating costs, higher transport times and reduce competitiveness for regional businesses. It also weakens our national supply chains. Fewer goods move at a slower pace for higher prices, and that flows from the farm gate to the supermarket shelf. You can't keep the nation's economy healthy when you're putting the brakes on its regions. Instead of addressing the root cause of road trauma, which is unsafe, unfunded infrastructure, Labor are taking the easy way out.</para>
<para>And let's not forget the human cost. Every minute added to a school bus run or medical appointment is time away from family, work and community. In the bush, distance already defines our lives. Labor's policy makes that distance even greater and our communities even smaller. And at the same time as they talk about road safety, they are cutting the Local Roads and Community Infrastructure Program—the very program councils rely on to maintain safe and efficient local roads. Councils like Isaac in Capricornia want to upgrade roads to a safe standard, delivering projects like the Phillips Creek Bridge Replacement Project that improves the safety and load capacity of the bridge and improves flood resilience. Cutting the Local Roads and Community Infrastructure Program will see transformational regional programs like this dry up. The truth is real road safety comes from investment, not inaction.</para>
<para>Meanwhile, roads like Marlborough Road are under much more pressure because of Labor's reckless rush to renewables. The added heavy-vehicle traffic associated with the construction of phase 2 of the Clarke Creek Wind Farm means these roads cannot cope. Actually, if Labor can't stump up the funding needed for Marlborough Road, perhaps Twiggy Forrest could improve the very roads his companies are using. Let's be clear: slower speed limits mean more pain for the regions. Labor's slow speed limits will mean longer trips to school, to hospitals, to market. It means greater isolation for our elderly, higher costs for our farmers and more frustration for every person who drives to earn a living.</para>
<para>Can you imagine the outcry if city commuters were told their morning drive to work would take 40 per cent longer? If the Labor latte sippers had to wait for their morning oat milk flat white, they wouldn't cope. But, honestly, I shouldn't joke. That's exactly what regional Australians have been told to accept—that their time, their productivity, their way of life are worth less. Well, they're not.</para>
<para>I say to the minister, get on with funding rural road repairs. Don't cripple our regions with another knee-jerk policy cooked up in Canberra. Let's build safer, stronger, efficient regional roads. Let's deliver proper consultation, real investment and safety improvements that protect lives, because regional Australia needs a fair go and safe roads, and a government willing to do the hard work to deliver both.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:20</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms SWANSON</name>
    <name.id>264170</name.id>
    <electorate>Paterson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to speak on this motion moved by the member for Mallee and, I must say, it is disappointing to see yet another attempt by those opposite to play politics with the safety of regional Australians.</para>
<para>After a decade of neglect by the former coalition government, the member opposite and her colleagues are now trying to deliberately mislead the people of regional and rural Australia about what is really going on here. Let's be absolutely clear: the idea of reviewing speed limits on high-risk regional roads did not start with this government. It was, in fact, a coalition commitment.</para>
<para>As part of the National Road Safety Action Plan 2018-2020, the then deputy prime minister, Michael McCormack, made it priority action No. 1 to review speed limits on high-risk regional roads. So let's be clear: the coalition kicked this off. In May 2018, the former coalition government, together with state and territory transport and infrastructure ministers, released a communique explicitly calling for speed reviews as part of their forward work. So it is a bit rich for the Nationals to come in here now, feign outrage and campaign against their own policy.</para>
<para>The Albanese Labor government is putting their policy out for consultation, transparently, openly and with proper community engagement. No decision has been made. No speed limits have been changed. What we are doing is seeking for Australians to have their say on how we can make our roads safer.</para>
<para>Now, while those opposite are busy running scare campaigns, the Albanese Labor government is actually getting on with the job of investing in safer, stronger regional roads. You might say we're proceeding with purpose. After a decade of neglect by the former coalition government, we're delivering record investment in regional infrastructure, and we are making regional roads safer.</para>
<para>Since coming into government, we've doubled the Roads to Recovery Program from $500 million to $1 billion—with a B—per year. This isn't a one-off boost. It's baked into the budget and will remain at that higher level into the future. We've increased the Black Spots Program to $150 million per year, targeting dangerous crash sites across regional and rural Australia. And we've created the Safer Local Roads and Infrastructure Program, providing $200 million per year to help local councils deliver the bigger road and bridge projects that make real differences in our communities.</para>
<para>It's also worth noting that, when Labor formed government in 2022, we discovered that the former coalition government had frozen highway maintenance funding all the way back in 2013, cutting support for the basic upkeep of the very roads country people rely on. We've reversed that Liberal freeze, ensuring that state governments have the resources they need to maintain and repair our national highways, fixing potholes, resurfacing and keeping our roads safer for everyone.</para>
<para>In my own electorate of Paterson, I have seen this funding in action. The M1 Pacific Motorway extension to Raymond Terrace was stalled for years—dare I say, decades—by the former coalition government. A vital piece of national infrastructure, they talked about it for years, they made announcement after announcement, they tried to pave the pavement in press releases, but failed to actually get the work started. This is a project that my community has been crying out for, and finally we are fixing this bottleneck. Since coming to government, we have fast-tracked the project, we have secured the funding and we are building it right now. To those people who'll be driving that way at Christmas: I know it's still a hold-up, but by golly the infrastructure is incredible. We're spending billions. We're fixing that last choke point between Sydney and Brisbane. I've been on site. I've met the workers, the engineers and the local contractors who are seeing this project finally come to life. It's creating jobs, improving safety and delivering the modern infrastructure that the people of the Hunter—and those who travel through it—richly deserve.</para>
<para>Today, we've just announced another lane opening in the Hexham Straight. This is exactly what the people of Australia need: safer, better roads.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>299498</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>There being no further speakers, the debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next day of sitting.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Medicare</title>
          <page.no>175</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:25</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr GREGG</name>
    <name.id>315154</name.id>
    <electorate>Deakin</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) acknowledges that on 1 November, bulk billing incentives were expanded to all Australians, and a new incentive payment began for practices that bulk bill every patient; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) notes:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) that these policies will mean:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) nine out of ten general practitioner (GP) visits will be bulk billed by 2030; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) the current number of fully bulk billed practices will triple to around 4,800 nationally;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) other policies the Government has delivered to strengthen Medicare, such as:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) opening 90 Medicare Urgent Care Clinics across Australia, with 47 more on the way;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) tripling the bulk billing incentive;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iii) opening 61 free Medicare Mental Health Centres;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iv) lowering the maximum cost of Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme listed medicines to $25 from 1 January 2026 and freezing the concession price at $7.70 until 2030; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(v) boosting funding for hospitals by $1.7 billion; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) that while the Government is expanding access to bulk billing, by contrast, the Leader of the Opposition as the Minister for Health:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) never increased Medicare rebates, the only health minister in Australian history not to do so;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) doubled down on the then Government's $50 billion cut to hospitals; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iii) continued the fight for the former Leader of the Opposition's GP tax.</para></quote>
<para>Over the weekend, I met Dr Sara Razaghi, a GP at the Forest Hill Medical & Dental Centre. This is one of the practices that has become 100 per cent bulk-billed thanks to the Albanese Labor government expanding bulk-billing incentives to all Australians, the single largest investment in Medicare since Labor created it over 40 years ago. Sara told me this change means that she can focus on her patients and their needs without worrying about how many people she can feasibly bulk-bill. She could see in her patients that a gap fee wasn't sustainable for them, so she did what she could to support her patients and bulk-billed as often as she could, often at her own financial detriment. Now that she's able to bulk-bill all her patients, she can finally focus on their wellbeing and know that the Albanese government has her back.</para>
<para>Forest Hill isn't the only clinic in Deakin to go to 100 per cent bulk-billing since we announced our changes. I've also visited Seymour Street Medical & Dental Centre, which is now also bulk-billing every patient. Between Seymour Street and Forest Hill alone, patients in my community will be saving almost $1.4 million. That's just across two clinics. Imagine the savings we're going to see as more clinics take up the incentives and provide more bulk-billing. That's going to make a massive difference in Deakin, and I'm so proud to be part of a government that is making it easier to leave your credit card at home when you seek medical care.</para>
<para>Unfortunately, the Australian people had to wait for a Labor government to fix Medicare. When the now opposition leader was health minister, do you know how many Medicare rebates increases we saw? Zero. I would go on further, but I note the opposition leader is having a tough enough week, so I'll leave that aspect there.</para>
<para>While the Liberals froze Medicare, the Albanese government has delivered the three largest increases in its history, and we're now making the single largest investment in Medicare since its creation over 40 years ago. We're investing $8.5 billion to deliver an additional 18 million bulk-billed GP visits each year nationwide, as well as hundreds of nursing scholarships and thousands more doctors in the largest GP training program in Australia's history.</para>
<para>For the first time since Labor created Medicare, we've expanded bulk-billing incentives to all Australians, with an additional new incentive for practices that bulk-bill every single patient. That means nine out of 10 GP visits will be bulk-billed by 2030, boosting the number of fully bulk-billed practices to around 4,800 nationally, triple the current number. The Albanese government tripled the bulk-billing incentive in 2023 in what was the largest investment in bulk-billing at the time. Medicare bulk-billing incentives were available to providers if they bulk-billed children under 16 and other concession cardholders. We saw that result in about nine in 10 visits being bulk-billed for that cohort. Expanding these incentives to all Australians will be life-changing for a lot of people. We know that even those who don't happen to meet the eligibility requirements for a concession card are often doing it tough; it doesn't mean they're rich, and they will really benefit from finally having bulk-billing returned to its glory. Already, under our government we've seen almost two million additional bulk-billed visits in Victoria, and I can't wait to see even more people from my community leaving their credit card at home.</para>
<para>GPs want this change, and around a thousand practices have already signed up or expressed interest saying they want to go 100 per cent fully bulk-billed, and I expect that more will do so once they see all the financial advantages for themselves and their patients. Doctors like Sara at Forest Hill Medical & Dental Centre want to focus on caring for patients, not stressing about money and not talking about money with their patients. They want to focus on the healthcare needs of those who have come to see them, and this provides them with that very important opportunity.</para>
<para>Because of our investment, doctors can focus 100 per cent on their patients, and more patients can be 100 per cent bulk-billed. With such a large investment in the program, Medicare has had the best comeback this weekend other than Oasis. We've seen, finally, a whole lot of green and yellow signs, which has warmed my heart as I go around seeing more and more people and clinics talking about bulk-billing returning to its former glory. We want to get to a point where those who need medical care don't hesitate to go to see a doctor; they get those interventions they need when they need them, rather than letting small things become big things. We've seen too much of that over the last few years.</para>
<para>Clinics have copped the Medicare freeze for a long time. They wore it for as long as they could. Then COVID came along, so more and more doctors were left with no choice but to charge gap fees. This is an essential corrective action to ensure Medicare meets its promise to the Australian people: that, finally, people can go with their little green card to see the GP and get the support they need without having to worry about any debt that might result from that. This is an essential public service. It's provided by private providers, but this is an essential public service paid for with a levy that all taxpayers are paying—</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>299498</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The member's time has expired. Do you have a seconder for your motion?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Ms Kara Cook</name>
    <name.id>316537</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion and reserve my right to speak.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:31</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr WILLCOX</name>
    <name.id>286535</name.id>
    <electorate>Dawson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>On 1 May, the Prime Minister held up his green Medicare card and declared, 'Under Labor, all you will need is your Medicare card, not your credit card, to see a doctor.' Well, I can tell you this: that is not absolutely true in my electorate of Dawson. In Dawson, you can wave that Medicare card as much as you like, but unless you have your credit card, you can't see a doctor. In Mackay, a regional city of 130,000 people, there is not one single bulk-billing clinic. If you don't have a concession card, you cannot see a doctor without your credit card. In the Whitsundays, Bowen and the Burdekin it's the same story: not one clinic. The nearest bulk-billing clinic is in Townsville, an 800-kilometre round trip from Mackay. That's eight hours of driving and more than $100 in out-of-pocket expenses for fuel alone, just to see a bulk-billing GP. That's not Medicare, that's 'Medi-don't-care'.</para>
<para>All last week we heard that side boast, 'In my electorate we've got these bulk-billing clinics.' Frankly, I'm sick to death with how Labor only cares about their own backyard. The people on that side couldn't care less about the communities suffering under Labor's blatant neglect. We're not talking about tiny backwater towns here; Mackay has a population of more than 130,000 people, and there is not one single fully-bulk-billed GP. Medi-fail! And yet, while regional Australians are struggling to access a GP, the government recently announced $10.5 million for three bulk-billing clinics in Canberra. Canberra, the wealthiest city in the country, where the median household income is 30 per cent higher than the national average. Meanwhile, regional Australians—farmers, tradies, nurses and teachers—are forced to fork out cash that they simply don't have just to get basic health care. The hypocrisy couldn't be any clearer. Labor talks about strengthening Medicare but, in reality, it has weakened access for the very Australians who rely on it most.</para>
<para>Let's look at the facts. People in regional areas are 50 per cent more likely to delay or skip seeing a GP, due to cost, compared to those in the cities. This government loves to talk about record funding, but in communities like mine none of that is reaching the front line. Since Labor came to office, out-of-pocket healthcare costs have jumped by 25 per cent in the electorate of Dawson alone. Families and pensioners are paying more, they're waiting longer and they're getting less. That's not a healthcare system to be proud of; that's a crisis. And what's the government's answer? 'Don't worry, nine out of 10 GP visits will be bulk-billed by 2030.' 2030! Tell that to a pensioner in Proserpine who can't get a doctor's appointment now. Tell that to a young family in Bowen choosing between groceries or a GP visit. They don't need a promise of 2030; they need a doctor today. Real Medicare is about care on the ground, not slogans in Canberra. You can't deliver bulk-billing by throwing money at city clinics, when regional towns go without doctors, nurses and clinics entirely. Labor needs a plan—one that recognises that regional Australians deserve the same access to health care as those in capital cities.</para>
<para>The Prime Minister says Medicare represents who we are, but I say this right now: Medicare represents a growing divide between city and country. The people of Dawson don't need slogans; they need services. Until this government stops pretending that Melbourne and Mackay are the same and that metro and regional health systems are equal, we will keep seeing the same result. Regional Australians are paying more, travelling further and getting less. It's time this government delivers Medicare that actually works for all Australians. In the mean time, regional Australians will have to keep carrying their credit cards because their little, green Medicare card is little more than a discount voucher.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:36</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CAMPBELL</name>
    <name.id>312823</name.id>
    <electorate>Moreton</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>It does not surprise me one iota that the member for Dawson does not support Medicare. It does not surprise me one iota that the member for Dawson does not support the bulk-billing investment that this government is doing, because this is a member opposite who is part of a coalition and a party who, when in government, tried to introduce a co-payment. What is a co-payment? A co-payment is the death of Medicare. Not only that, the member for Dawson is part of a coalition who, when in government, cut billions of dollars from health funding that people rely on each and every day to make sure that they can get better.</para>
<para>In contrast, this is a Labor government that is investing in health and investing in the people who need it most when they get sick, the people who need it most when someone falls down and breaks their arm and the people who need it most when a devastating diagnosis comes back. That's why we've invested in urgent care clinics. That's why we've invested in women's health. That's why we've invested in cheaper medicines. That's why we've invested in bulk-billing. And what we know already is that hundreds of GP practices have signed up. It's for our communities, for Australians and for people from my community and that of the member for Lyons. It doesn't matter where you are in this country. What they need is bulk-billing, and that is what Labor is delivering.</para>
<para>Medicare had its 40th birthday last year, and it was well worth celebrating 40 years of low- or no-cost health services for Australians, no matter where they lived or how much they earned. Labor is the party of Medicare. We invented it. We don't leave it to rest idle. We invest in it, support it and make it better. It's part of who we are as a party and part of who we are as a government. And now, at 41, Medicare is going from strength to strength. This is thanks to a Labor government that's committed to the belief that, when you need medical assistance, you deserve to receive high-quality health care quickly, without breaking the bank. In 2023, Labor tripled the bulk-billing incentive for people who need to see their GP most often—for pensioners, for concession cardholders and for families with children. This drove the turnaround of bulk billing, enabling an additional 6.5 million bulk-billed GP visits, with an additional 1.2 million in Queensland alone.</para>
<para>Last Saturday was 1 November, and it was another important day in the history of Medicare and in the history of our health system. For the first time, bulk-billing incentives will be paid to GPs for every patient they bulk bill, not just the group I mentioned. What does this mean? This incentive represents the single largest investment in Medicare ever. It equates to 18 million additional bulk-billed visits per year. That is something that makes a difference. It makes a difference whether you are an old Australian, whether you have a brand-new baby that you want to go to an urgent care clinic, whether you are someone who is sick, or whether you are someone who has an injury. It means that, by 2030, nine out of 10 visits will be bulk-billed in this country, and that is something to celebrate. It's something to celebrate because this is a government that doesn't just talk about our investment in health care, doesn't just say that will do something; it delivers. When we deliver, we make it real and we make it happen, and that's what we've seen with bulk-billed services today, that's what we've seen with urgent care clinics, that's what we are seeing with our Medicare mental health clinics, that's what we are seeing with new endo and pelvic pain clinics, that's what we are seeing with cheaper medicines, and that's what we are seeing across the whole of our health sector, because Australians deserve accessible and affordable care every day, and Labor delivers that.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:41</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms PENFOLD</name>
    <name.id>248895</name.id>
    <electorate>Lyne</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Investment in Medicare is always welcome. I'm hopeful that the additional bulk-billing incentive payments will directly benefit Lyne constituents, who have seen a serious decline in bulk billing availability in the last four years. I look forward to hearing from Lyne locals that it has hit the ground. But praise has not been universal. General practice clinics and owners are already disclosing publicly that they will not be signing up to the incentives. Why?</para>
<para>Firstly, signing up to the program is prohibitively time consuming and complex, and most GPs and practice managers—certainly in regional Australia—are already incredibly busy and do not have the time to do the paperwork. Secondly, the incentives are not sufficient to offset the soaring operational costs of running a clinic under Labor's skyrocketing energy prices. To enable 100 per cent bulk billing, many GPs insist that, if they were to take part in the program, their practice would lose hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, which would ultimately jeopardise the viability of keeping the practice open.</para>
<para>I want constituents to have access to no-appointment-necessary bulk-billed after-hours care. An urgent care clinic in Taree would complement a state funded one, the Forster-Tuncurry health facility that my state colleague, the member for Myall Lakes, has successfully obtained funding for, after the Minns government axed funding for a public hospital.</para>
<para>The mover of this motion, the member for Deakin, references a number of other policies that the government has undertaken to strengthen Medicare, including opening 90 Medicare Urgent Care Clinics across the country, with 47 more on the way. One would think this would be good news for my electorate. Lyne is, after all, the oldest electorate and one of the poorest in the country, so surely it should be on the list to receive a federally funded urgent care clinic. Well, it's not. Surely, it is one of the 47 that is on the list to be delivered down the track. Well, it's not. Out of the 137 urgent care clinics the government will operate, not one falls within the borders of my electorate. My electorate and my constituents sit squarely in the middle of a yawning service gap that exists between Coffs Harbour and Newcastle, and despite my many calls to the minister to work with me to fix this gap and deliver an urgent care clinic in the Lyne electorate, I've been generally knocked back. My request should not be of any surprise to the government. During the election I called for an urgent care clinic in Taree. Labor ran a candidate against me, so why didn't Labor match my commitment and budget for it during the election, as they did in the many others they are delivering? I note that an urgent care clinic that was committed to in Maitland will benefit many of my constituents and I'm grateful to the government for this commitment, but Maitland is almost two hours away, too far for the people of Taree and Forster and the Mid North Coast to access.</para>
<para>The member for Deakin, when moving this motion, also spruiked the government's lowering of the maximum cost of Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme listed medicines. And while we all hope this initiative will land in the pockets of hardworking Australians, increasingly we are seeing these savings washed away by other surging price rises created by this government's policies.</para>
<para>Just last Friday I received a call from a constituent who had undergone a pathology test and only after the fact was told an invoice would be sent to him. This is another policy that was brought in by the Albanese government, but curiously they are not spruiking this one, which runs completely counter to their misleading narrative that they are delivering cheaper and more accessible health care. This formerly free health service is no longer, thanks to the government placing tighter restrictions on who can get Medicare funded vitamin B12 and urine specimen testing. This gentleman who contacted my office could not believe that the Prime Minister, who theatrically waved his Medicare card and promised on no fewer than 71 occasions—throughout the election campaign and since—that all you need is your Medicare card, not your credit card, was doing the exact opposite when it came to the pathology. This decision, as my constituent warned, will deter many Australians from doing clinical tests, potentially creating more complex and expensive health problems down the track. He said, 'If I'd been made aware of the cost prior to the test then I don't think I would have had it.'</para>
<para>Health is one of the major concerns on the mind of Lyne residents—again, the oldest electorate and one of the poorest in the country. We feel we're missing out on our fair of investment in local health services under this government. I'm here to work constructively with whomever is in government to support the health needs of Lyne communities.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:46</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms KARA COOK</name>
    <name.id>316537</name.id>
    <electorate>Bonner</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Guess what's back again? Bulk-billing is back. Please tell your friends! In Bonner we now have 11 fully bulk-billed GP clinics and counting: Archer Medical Centre; Doctors on Manly Road; Garden City Family Doctors; Good Health medical centres in Garden City, Mt Gravatt and Carindale; Mansfield Family Practice; Mt Gravatt Family Practice; Realcare Medical Centre; Tingalpa Family Health Care Centre; and Yulu-Burri-Ba. This is all thanks to the Albanese Labor government's record investment in Medicare. It's been 40 years since its inception, and we are tripling the bulk-billing incentive. This will mean Australians can see a GP for free and access care when they need it most.</para>
<para>This is just the beginning. Over the next four years, we will see around 4,800 GP clinics converted to fully-fledged bulk-billing practices. Nationally, over 1,000 have already signed up. In Queensland we have 1,430 GP practices, and over the weekend we saw a doubling of fully bulk-billed practices. That's 408 across the Sunshine State. This means more bulk-billing doctors for more communities, easing pressure on families. When they need to see a doctor, all they're going to need is their Medicare card, not their credit card. As a member of this Labor government, I am committed to delivering real cost-of-living relief for my constituents in Bonner and to building a fairer and healthier Australia. From the mum from Mansfield to the student from Belmont and the pensioner from Wynnum Manly, more constituents in my electorate of Bonner will be able to see a GP for free.</para>
<para>But more good news is on the way. We have opened 90 Medicare urgent care clinics across the country, and 47 more are on the way, including in my electorate. The Carindale Medicare urgent care clinic will be opened in the coming months. The expressions of interest have now closed, and I cannot wait to cut the ribbon on that clinic and open it up to members of my community. This will be the first Medicare urgent care clinic in Bonner. Hundreds of locals signed my petition calling for an urgent care clinic in our electorate, and I am so proud to see that Labor has heard them and will see this delivered in the coming months. Labor is delivering tangible, substantial cost-of-living relief, and that will benefit millions of Australians, not just those in my community in Bonner.</para>
<para>We are also investing in women's health at a record rate. On the weekend we listed even more new contraceptive options on the PBS, and it's great to see menopausal hormone therapies being added to the PBS as well. We are also delivering expanded endometriosis clinics to help deliver earlier diagnosis and treatment—something that will change the lives of women who for years have often had their pain dismissed. The Albanese Labor government is providing Australian women with more choices at lower costs. We know that women have faced a significant range of barriers to accessing health care, often at significant cost, just by virtue of being a woman.</para>
<para>Australia has had one of the lowest rates of long-acting reversible contraceptive use in the developed world. Medicare rebates for insertion of IUDs and birth-control implants will increase by up to 150 per cent, with around 300,000 women each year expected to save up to $400 in out-of-pocket costs under the changes that are being made. The Albanese Labor government is also funding free training for health practitioners in the insertion and removal of IUDs to boost the number of qualified practitioners and improve access to services. In addition a 40 per cent bulk-billing incentive will be introduced incentivising health professionals to provide long-acting contraceptive services and support women to have greater contraceptive choice. These are all part of Labor's landmark women's health package, investing almost $800 million to deliver improved health care for women and girls.</para>
<para>This is what a Labor government does. We strengthen Medicare, we deliver cost-of-living relief and we keep working to build a fairer and healthier future for all Australians.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:51</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr VENNING</name>
    <name.id>315434</name.id>
    <electorate>Grey</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>There is a crisis unfolding in regional Australia: the collapsing access to general practice services. It is not easy to see a GP in the country, and I think we can all agree that your postcode should not determine whether you get health care. Labor is busy spruiking its urgent Medicare clinics, presenting them as a solution to health care, but I have news for this parliament: most people in my electorate will never get access to one. In fact, on health outcomes, people in my electorate of Grey already have some of the worst outcomes in the country. We have the highest rates of diabetes in the country, more than double the national average, we have some of the worst access to health care and we have some of the lowest life expectancy rates, while access to seeing a doctor in my community is getting worse, not better.</para>
<para>Policymakers need to stop playing politics with health care. They know exactly how medical clinics operate and they know the real-world consequences of their policies. For those unaware, GP clinics make money on brief consultations and subsidise the longer, more complex consultations, which often the clinics service at a loss. Labor's new policy is simply putting pressure on the clinics to find ways to fund these essential longer appointments. This was confirmed by the health department in Senate estimates, who also confirmed that it will cost more to see a GP this year and next year. Everyone I speak with, from councils to community members, recognises that there is a massive issue with access to GPs in rural and remote communities, yet, despite this widespread recognition, no-one is doing anything meaningful to make a difference, especially not this Labor government.</para>
<para>Only last month another medical clinic in my electorate closed its doors for good. That closure means the residents of Peterborough now must drive over an hour to see a GP and wait over six weeks to get an appointment. This is unacceptable. Even communities that have traditionally been strong for championing rural practice, like Tumby Bay, Clare and Port Lincoln, are struggling badly. The wait time to see a GP in Tumby Bay right now is a shocking nine weeks.</para>
<para>Then there are locums, the temporary doctors filling in the gaps. While they keep some hospitals running, the widespread use of locums in my electorate only hurts our communities even more. Take Peterborough again. When the local clinic closed, it stopped supplying doctors to the local hospital. So the local health network, the LHN, stepped in and turned to the locum market at a cost of over $4,000 per day per doctor. This situation is costing my own LHN $18 million per year, meaning less money for infrastructure and leaving old, aging and, frankly, unfit hospitals in places like Wallaroo and Port Pirie without the upgrades they so desperately need.</para>
<para>The core issue is that this government is fundamentally undermining the business model. As we have discussed, general practices used to make more money on brief consultations, which would then help subsidise the longer, more complex ones. However, many simple consultations are being diverted. They are going to urgent Medicare clinics, where the government invests $246.50 per patient, or to nurse led clinics, which cost $200 per patient. The simplest cases are even ending up in the emergency department, which costs the taxpayer $692 per patient without an admission. This leaves GPs to deal with longer, more complex consultations. For these, the Medicare rebate is significantly lower per minute, with the government only investing about $40 per patient.</para>
<para>This government proudly talks about its new bulk-billing incentives, but they are merely a small patch on a gaping hole. This government is approaching four years in office and it has delivered nothing but worse outcomes for my community. By contrast, the coalition had a strong record on Medicare. We increased funding every year, from $18.6 billion under the former Labor government to more than $30 billion by FY 2022. We left office with bulk-billing at a record high at 88 per cent. In our last year, 167 million free GP visits were delivered, 61 million more than under the previous Labor government.</para>
<para>Let's not forget about mental health. Labor has cut Medicare subsidised sessions in half, stripping vital support from 370,000 vulnerable Australians and ignoring the advice of experts and even their own review. I like to say that there's better access to mental health care in Mongolia than there is in regional South Australia. To use the PM's own language, it is all BS. Before you can see a GP for free, you need a GP. The truth is that we simply don't have that in our communities.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>17:56</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mrs PHILLIPS</name>
    <name.id>147140</name.id>
    <electorate>Gilmore</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The first day of November 2025 was a great day. It was, of course, when the Albanese Labor government's expanded bulk-billing incentives kicked in, expanding bulk-billing incentives to all Australians and also with an additional new incentive payment for practices that bulk-bill every patient. It follows on from our very successful tripling of the bulk-billing incentive two years ago in 2023 for pensioners, concession cardholders and students. That proved very, very popular. We saw bulk-billing rates increase in particular for this cohort of people. I can honestly say that this makes a huge difference in people's lives.</para>
<para>People are doing it tough, and we have always said that we will provide cost-of-living relief where we can. The changes on 1 November did just that. They are being welcomed by a whole host of GP practices in my electorate of Gilmore that are keen to also provide some relief for patients. I visited Grand Pacific Health in Nowra, one of the first medical practices in Gilmore to sign on to become a fully bulk-billed practice. This is what practice manager Charisse Morris had to say:</para>
<quote><para class="block">This will make a huge difference. If people don't have to pay that gap for general consults, that's food in their mouth. When you have to prioritise food or health, that's a problem.</para></quote>
<para>I couldn't agree more. This is much-needed, real relief for people.</para>
<para>Just before 1 November, posts started popping up on Facebook by GP practices in Gilmore and our Facebook community groups, like this one from the Sussex Doctors at Sussex Inlet on the New South Wales South Coast. They said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Healthcare made more affordable at Sussex Doctors!</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">We're proud to be a Fully Bulk Billing Clinic, ensuring everyone in our community can access quality medical care.</para></quote>
<para>…   …   …</para>
<list>Your appointment covered by Medicare—just bring your card.</list>
<para>…   …   …</para>
<quote><para class="block">From general consultations to care plans, we're here to support your health at every stage without financial stress.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">At Sussex Doctors, your health is our priority and now, it's more accessible than ever.</para></quote>
<para>They said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">More access. Less cost. Better care.</para></quote>
<para>It's hard to argue with that, so I shared that post and people started commenting about other local GP practices also moving to bulk-billing every patient for GP visits. That included Bomaderry Creek Health Centre, which has a new pop-up on their Facebook page that says:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Bulk billing for all patients starting 1st November 2025</para></quote>
<para>From 1 November 2025, there are no out-of-pocket costs for your GP visits at Bomaderry Creek Health Centre. How good is that?</para>
<para>Recently, I also I met with GPs at the Queen Street Medical Centre at Moruya. They are also taking up the expanded bulk-billing incentive. They told me what a significant difference this will mean for patients and their practice. The 12.5 per cent additional incentive payment for bulk-billing every patient was also so welcomed. And the earnings boost is larger in regional areas like Gilmore, with a GP at a rural practice that bulk-bills every visit to earn almost $24,000 more than a mixed-billing GP for providing the same number of services. We need more GPs in regional areas, and these expanded bulk-billing incentives help even more people in regional areas like mine.</para>
<para>As at 27 October 2025, 21 GP practices in Gilmore indicated their intent to become a Medicare bulk-billing practice, with 11 of those being currently mixed-billing practices. From these expanded bulk-billing incentives, we've seen mixed-billing practices become full bulk-billing and more practices in total becoming full bulk-billing. Here's what John said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">I already get bulk-billed. But I'm glad it's extending. When people can see a GP without having to sacrifice their children's nutrition or rent, it makes us all smarter.</para></quote>
<para>The Albanese Labor government has delivered the three largest increases in history, and now we're making the single largest investment in Medicare since its creation over 40 years ago.</para>
<para>I'm also looking forward to the new Nowra Medicare urgent care clinic, which I know many people in my community are very much looking forward to as well, and I know that that's moving forward well. There is also the expanded hours for the Batemans Bay Medicare urgent care clinic, with the hours from 6 am to midnight, 18 hours a day—the longest of any urgent care clinic in the country.</para>
<para>Labor created Medicare, and a Labor government will always strengthen Medicare.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>C2T</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The time allotted for this debate has expired. The debate is adjourned. The resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next sitting.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Telecommunications</title>
          <page.no>181</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:01</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr WEBSTER</name>
    <name.id>281688</name.id>
    <electorate>Mallee</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the 3G telecommunications network was switched off on the Government's watch in 2024;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the interim report of the Senate inquiry into the shutdown made clear recommendations about the impending shutdown, recommending that the Government delay the shutdown until it was satisfied that 'the 4G network provides coverage equivalent to or better than the coverage provided by the licensee's 3G network';</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) the Government relied on the assurances of commercial operators to ensure equivalent mobile coverage after the shutdown but despite promises, regional Australians have been detrimentally affected and thousands of consumers have been left with worse, or no, coverage at all;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) furthermore, there have been reports of poor handling of consumer complaints about their loss of service post 3G shutdown; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(e) the Government has failed to take responsibility for the fallout of the 3G shutdown in regional Australia, and its response to the final report by the Senate into the shutdown was again lazy and noncommittal, failing to agree to any new actions; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) calls upon the Minister for Communications to take responsibility for the botched 3G shutdown and its impact on the connectivity of regional Australians by:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) providing transparency regarding the crowdsourcing component of the National Audit of Mobile Coverage and expanding it to include off-road areas (including on private land such as farming and grazing properties) to ensure an accurate picture of the impact of the shutdown on mobile coverage is attained; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) thoroughly addressing the first recommendation of the final Senate inquiry report to 'establish a program to help customers that have lost mobile phone coverage since the 3G shutoff'.</para></quote>
<para>The shutdown of the 3G telecommunications network in 2024 has been nothing short of a disaster for regional communities, and the government's response has been woefully inadequate. I rise today to speak on behalf of regional Australians across this country, who have been left behind again by the Albanese Labor government when it comes to access to telecommunications services. Let me be clear: while the decision to shut down the 3G network was made by commercial operators—TPG in January 2024, followed by Optus and Telstra in October—it was the Albanese government's responsibility to ensure that regional Australians would not be worse off. The Senate inquiry into the shutdown made that abundantly clear. The government should have delayed the shutdown until it was satisfied that the 4G network provided coverage equivalent to, or better than, 3G. But, instead of taking action, the government relied on the promises of telcos—promises that have proven hollow.</para>
<para>Thousands of Australians, particularly in rural and remote areas, now face worse coverage or no coverage at all. Phones drop to SOS mode. Medical alarms have failed. Farmers are left without connectivity on their properties. This is not just inconvenient; it is dangerous. The impacts have been widespread. Devices that relied on 3G, such as ag tech tools, security systems and life-saving medical equipment, have been rendered useless. People are forced to install expensive satellite systems, like Starlink, just to stay connected—all of this during a cost-of-living crisis, where regional Australians pay the same for mobile plans as city dwellers but receive a far inferior service.</para>
<para>The government's response to the Senate inquiry's final report was lazy and non-committal. Labor have failed to agree to any new actions. They have failed to take responsibility and they have failed regional Australians.</para>
<para>The Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman received over 51,000 complaints from regional consumers between 2021 and 2024. These complaints ranged from poor service quality and outages to accessibility barriers and unresolved faults. Some constituents have reported faults for years without any improvement. Others were misled into signing up for services that simply don't work where they live.</para>
<para>This is unacceptable. The Senate committee made two key recommendations in their final report that must be acted upon immediately by Minister Wells and the Albanese government: The first was to establish a program to help customers who lost mobile coverage due to the 3G shutdown. This program should be co-funded by government and industry and include subsidies for connectivity equipment—boosters, satellite services and replacements for obsolete devices. Secondly, they should expand the national audit of mobile coverage to include off-road areas, including private land such as farms and grazing properties. This data must be collected from consumers, cross-referenced with telco data and published in an accessible format. I call on the Minister for Communications to take responsibility for this botched shutdown.</para>
<para>We need transparency, we need action and we need a government that listens and acts for regional Australians. The Prime Minister likes to say, on repeat: 'No-one held back. No-one left behind.' We all know the saying. But every regional Australian knows he doesn't mean it. When it comes to mobile connectivity—a bit like roads—we have been held back; we have been left behind. It is time for the Albanese government to stop ignoring the regions and start fixing the mess they helped create. Regional Australians deserve better. They deserve reliable mobile coverage. They deserve to be heard.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>C2T</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Is the motion seconded?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Violi</name>
    <name.id>300147</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion and reserve my right to speak.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:06</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr MATT SMITH</name>
    <name.id>312393</name.id>
    <electorate>Leichhardt</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to speak on the motion moved by the member for Mallee. I'm glad to have the opportunity to talk about telecommunications, especially given my electorate and its struggles to get solid phone coverage. I can say with absolute certainty that everyone on this side wants and supports better telecommunications, especially for the regions. We can say that with confidence because we didn't try to downgrade the NBN the first chance we got.</para>
<para>You should have access to quality communication services no matter where you live. Be it Canberra or Cairns, Sydney or Seisia, Melbourne or Mapoon, you deserve good coverage. Sadly, that is not the case. My electorate is vast, it is empty and there is not a lot of coverage. Ninety-seven per cent of Leichhardt has no mobile phone coverage. I could make jokes about how, when I drive to Coen or Bamaga or Weipa and spend nine to 12 hours on dirt roads, my Spotify doesn't work and whoever is driving with me has to listen to my singing, but that's not really the point. It's dangerous. It's always been dangerous, and there has never been coverage there. It doesn't matter how many Gs you put in front of it.</para>
<para>I've been in this role for six months. We've got commitments to get low-orbit satellites and to get 100 per cent of Leichhardt covered with mobile coverage, from three per cent. That's not on this government; that's on every previous government: 97 per cent without coverage. That's impacting health, education, transport, small business—all the things that the other side claimed to support but ignored. There were regions that mattered, but apparently mine didn't.</para>
<para>That's why we in Labor are investing in telecommunications: $55 million for round 8 of the Mobile Black Spot Program; $50 million for Regional Roads Australia Mobile pilot programs; just over $115 million towards 74 projects that respond to local priorities with the objective of maximising economic opportunities and social benefits for regional and remote communities, as part of round 3 of the Regional Connectivity Program; and, as part of two successful rounds of the On Farm Connectivity Program, over $30.4 million in rebates, delivering thousands of connectivity solutions for primary producers, with another $20 million committed to round 3 of the program.</para>
<para>Connectivity doesn't just mean phones; it increases the yield of our farmers. Our cane growers are now using connectivity to check their crops, understand their run-off and make sure they can handle their pests. It is also part of the Better Connectivity Plan for Regional and Rural Australia, which will deliver $1.1 billion from 2022-23 to 2029-30. The 3G shutdown, for better or worse, is happening. It's no good looking back; we should look forward, and there's no doubt that Australians in some of the particularly regional and rural areas are experiencing poorer connectivity because of this. But this was a commercial decision made by Telstra, Optus and Vodafone, and it seems that more often than not the opposition's answer to everything is to blame the government or the Prime Minister regardless of whose decision it was. So, while they try and pin private commercial decisions on us, I wonder what else we can get blamed for here. Fantales were discontinued. I miss them dearly. Is that Albo's fault?</para>
<para>Unlike those opposite, when something is impacting Australians, we step up. Since the 3G shutdown, the former communications minister convened a roundtable with the telecommunications industry, regulators and consumer advocates to reflect on Australia's 3G switch-off. This allowed discussions to happen about what we can do better when Australia transfers to new technologies in the future. We will give the people the reception that they need and that they deserve, and that they needed and deserved a decade ago. The action is being taken now.</para>
<para>We're looking forward in the communications—there is a big policy push that will help and that's a universal outdoor mobile obligation. The UOMO—that's a mouthful—will require Telstra, Optus and TPG to provide access to outdoor mobile SMS and voice coverage right across Australia. They will be able to leverage their existing mobile networks or use low-Earth-orbit satellites using direct-to-device technology. This is the change that is needed in regional areas. This is the change that is going to make a difference to the kids studying in Aurukun. This is going to make travel in the cape safer should you blow out a tyre or hit a pig. This is going to allow health to be done over telehealth, giving better health outcomes. It is great news for my community.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:11</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr VIOLI</name>
    <name.id>300147</name.id>
    <electorate>Casey</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I want to commend the member for Mallee for this motion. It's a very important one, because the reality is—as we on this side talk about often—the phone lines working can be the difference between life and death. When Australians pick up the phone and call triple 0, they expect that the phone will be answered and that they will get the help that they need, and it's not a political line. Many in my community, including me, were impacted by the June storms of 2021. We were blocked into our home, with trees across the front of our driveway, unable to get out. When the power ran out—which it did, late in the night—we woke up early that morning and had no phone reception. There is not a more vulnerable feeling that you have as a husband and as a father than knowing that, if a disaster had happened and if a tree had fallen across our house as it did to many in our community, I wouldn't have been able to call triple 0 to get the help my family needed.</para>
<para>We had situations where our CFA brigades, who were not trained in storm recovery or helping people in storms, were navigating in pitch dark, and CFA communications officers were having to try and text message other brigade members to make sure they could know where they were and what was going on. One of the brigade communications officers shared a story with me at that time about how they could not move their phone for want of losing reception. If they moved it a centimetre, they would lose reception. That's what we talk about and that's why we're so passionate on this side about making sure we have strong communications in this country. And we have a minister that is failing the Australian people. We just heard it from the member for Leichhardt. They are so quick to blame private enterprise—Optus, Telstra et cetera—and they absolutely have a role to play, but there's a little bit of a hint in the title: Minister for Communications. That makes this government and the minister responsible for making sure the Australian people get the communications they need.</para>
<para>This minister has failed when it comes to triple 0 and has failed when it comes to 3G. It's a pity the member for Leichhardt has left because I would've loved to have reminded him that this government has been in power for 3½ years. He seemed very generous in giving them a leave pass. But we will see as we move forward. He'll learn very quickly that this government is big on spin but low on delivery. I'm going to look forward to tracking the reception in Leichhardt, and when it doesn't improve, which I'm very confident it won't, because we know it's spin from this government, we will see whether the member for Leichhardt will call out the failures of this minister. I will watch with interest.</para>
<para>This minister was warned about the 3G network. This minister has been warned about triple 0. And what has been the minister's response? It has been: 'I'm sorry. I'm a new minister.' That's what we have had from this government. This is time urgent. This is not a time for politics; this is a time for making sure the Australian people have the support they need. We are now into November. We are now entering the disaster season for all Australians. I've been lucky enough and honoured to attend a lot of CFA annual dinners in my community in the last three to four months, and the messaging from the district commanders and the captains has been consistent: stay safe and look after yourself, because the conditions we see this summer are some of the most dangerous we have seen since Black Saturday and Ash Wednesday. That's the reality. It is why we are urging the minister to act.</para>
<para>But we get talk of roundtables. Roundtables aren't going to make sure that, when someone who was on the 3G network needs to call triple 0, it's going to work now. We have a minister who's obsessed with the spin and is happy to fly to New York to talk about the social media ban. It's important—we absolutely support that—but not at a time when the triple 0 network is failing. It is about priorities. It is about making sure the Australian people are safe, and this minister has shown time and time again that she does not have the ability to deal with these issues. She does not have the ability to call Optus to account. She is afraid of transparency. She has refused to attend the Senate hearing into the triple 0 failures. The Australian people can have no confidence in this minister or this government, and that is a shame because it is the Australian people who pay the price for their continual failures.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:16</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CHESTERS</name>
    <name.id>249710</name.id>
    <electorate>Bendigo</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>It's another sitting week and we have yet another negative motion being put forward by the member for Mallee. It's become a regular occurrence that the member for Mallee puts forward negativity after negativity. This is a bit of a rehash of an old motion that has no insight into and is no reflection on what her colleagues did when they were ministers and in government.</para>
<para>Let's just remind those opposite that privatisation and being market driven is now the reality for our telecommunications. If you want to switch back to a government owned service, that is going to take a lot of money. Those opposite may also forget that it was the Howard government that, with T1, T2 and T3, effectively privatised our telecommunications. That was the last time we had reliable communications in this country, with every house having a copper landline, as was the technology of the day. We lost the ability to control the market back when it was privatised under the Nationals and the Liberals during the Howard government.</para>
<para>What we have today is a patchwork market, which those opposite failed to do anything about in their nine years of government. Round after round of their Mobile Black Spot Program went through the Audit Office, which found it did not genuinely increase coverage for regional areas. In electorates like mine, a regional electorate, we might get one each term of the previous government. This did little or nothing to improve the coverage in my electorate.</para>
<para>Those opposite are criticising a roundtable, but I say to those opposite: you're so opposed to regulation, but this is what you need if you want to regulate a market to deliver service to everybody. The markets don't like to go to the regions. They need to build a tower, but if there aren't the customers, they're not going to build it. This is what telcos tell them and tell us all the time. The market isn't going to build a tower in Metcalfe in my electorate. There aren't the customers to sustain that investment. They turn around and say: 'What are you going to do?' The program doesn't work. It's clunky. This is why we've had roundtables—to bring people together to ask: What are the lessons? How can we make the market kinder? How can we adapt the market to deliver the services that we need?</para>
<para>This is also why we committed to an audit. This was a 2022 election commitment, which we are halfway through doing. It's been a longstanding concern of people in the regions that the telco coverage maps do not reflect the experience of mobile users. Every member in the regions has experienced this. We ourselves have experienced this. The map says we've got coverage out in Tarnagulla, but, when you get there, the coverage isn't there. The map says you have coverage in Tooborac, but, when you get there, it isn't there. Part of that is because each telco has its own metrics—its own way of measuring it. We are proposing to standardise it. We want to see all the telcos using the same set of measures. Those opposite are opposed to it. They say it's more red tape for the telcos. They want their cake and to eat it too. They are not genuinely interested in improving telecommunications in the regions. All they want to do is throw mud and throw stones.</para>
<para>We on this side of the House accept that it is a long-term challenge, and we are working to build the coverage. We genuinely believe on this side of the House that, regardless of where you live, you should have access to telecommunications. Our vision is absolutely clear: it is making Australia the most connected continent in the world, and we acknowledge we have a lot of work to do. That is why we're getting on with doing it. There is $1.1 billion going into the Better Connectivity Plan for Regional and Rural Australia. We are not going to let the telcos dictate to us where the investment will be. We want to see everybody having access to those devices, because that's how a lot of us access our lives. Currently, $55 million for the latest round, round 8, of the Black Spot Program is under assessment. We will improve coverage, as opposed to what those opposite did, with $50 million to improve telecommunications programs for our regional roads. Round 3 of the connectivity programs just awarded 274 projects. We've had successful rounds of the Farm Connectivity Program. The list goes on.</para>
<para>Then we get to what we're also doing, and it is our government, a Labor government, delivering this: the Universal Outdoor Mobile Obligation. It is this government, a Labor government, that will make this a requirement—not the Liberals and not the Nationals in the nine years they had in government, but a Labor government. Watch this space: outdoor mobile obligation under us.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:22</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr CHAFFEY</name>
    <name.id>316312</name.id>
    <electorate>Parkes</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The lack of reliable telecommunications in regional Australia has created a very, very dangerous situation. The loss of the 3G network last year has plunged Albanese's forgotten Australians into further isolation, with many people left with no coverage at all. Anyone in this chamber, in Parliament House today or our loved ones could be driving along a regional road—let's say the Newell Highway, a critical route that connects Victoria with Queensland, transversing my own electorate, the federal seat of Parkes. Imagine something happened to you or your loved one while you were on that route and you were stranded beside the highway. In most areas outside the township along that critical highway, there is absolutely no reception. You or your loved one would have no way to call for help. You or your loved one would be at the mercy of other drivers passing by to help you. It is quite simply unacceptable. This would not happen to those who live in metropolitan areas like Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne and Perth. Or, if it did, it would be fixed in an Albanese flash. This is only one of the dangerous consequences of this situation.</para>
<para>As I connect with residents right across the 407,000 square kilometres of my electorate, they are constantly telling me of their frustrations trying to conduct a business, stay in touch with family and friends and feel secure in the fact that, if they need to, they can contact someone for urgent help. I heard only today from a business in Gilgandra that, when a purchase is made, staff need to stand outside in the street for the EFTPOS machine to work. Can you believe it? Communication devices do not work under steel roofs. Not only are phones and EFTPOS machines not working or working at limited levels, there are other consequences such as impacts on alarm systems and software that pinpoints your location in an emergency. Our critical regional organisations, such as the Country Women's Association and the National Farmers' Federation, continue to voice their frustrations with the problems caused by poor connectivity. The CWA has noted it impacts on basic activities like internet banking, accessing weather updates, distance education and business needs. Today, a representative of the CWA has said the organisation sent Telstra details of about a hundred cases of connectivity failure across New South Wales in March. They are yet to receive an answer and they continue to hear of problems from their membership.</para>
<para>The National Farmers' Federation have said connectivity is essential to the productivity, the sustainability and the liveability of Australians farming in regional communities. Results came out today of a survey carried out by the <inline font-style="italic">Land</inline> newspaper. The <inline font-style="italic">Land </inline>said they received 318 responses from people who say they are simply fed up. They're fed up with the poor standards of telecommunications, and it's going backwards. Respondents quoted that the major issues were safety, use of farm technology, health, connections with family and friends, the extra cost of boosters and even pest management. There were responses from people with health conditions who were afraid they would not be able to reach help in an emergency. People are carrying multiple SIM cards in their pocket. Phone calls are dropping out up to 15 times in 10 minutes.</para>
<para>In the world that regional people live in today, you cannot conduct a business, you cannot grow your farm, you cannot complete your education, you cannot make bookings, you cannot do your banking and you cannot even have your say on legislation without connectivity. The catastrophe of no communications that many regional Australians are facing could be prevented if the Albanese government simply cared enough to do something about it. These are regional people who pay the same or, sometimes, significantly more than Australians who live in the city for the privilege of telecommunications. It's not only dangerous; it's utterly disgraceful. It's time to switch the lights back on in regional Australia and to treat regional Australians with respect. The situation is not cheaper for regional Australia, it's not better and it's definitely not fair.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:27</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms TEMPLEMAN</name>
    <name.id>181810</name.id>
    <electorate>Macquarie</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>It's really good that we're here talking about connectivity and about old technology being phased out for new. I appreciate the member for Mallee's concerns about 3G, but, essentially, the needs of Australia's modern economy and the broader community outgrew the capabilities of 3G. It's not the first time we've had to shift technologies and it's not the last time that we're going to have to shift technologies. So that's what I want to focus on.</para>
<para>It is really important that we learn the lessons from every one of these experiences. They're all going to be different, and 3G certainly had its challenges, but I have to say it isn't the biggest challenge in connectivity my community faced then or now. There continue to be challenges in staying connected. This government believes that there should be coverage that is reliable and resilient, and I want to see that reliable and resilient coverage across the 4,300 square kilometres of the electorate that I represent. It is vital when there is a bushfire or a flood or a big storm that you have that connectivity.</para>
<para>I don't say that just as someone who can look at it objectively and say, 'Oh, it must be really important.' I've actually been in the circumstance where I needed to use mobile coverage to contact my then 18-year-old, when he was at home with a bushfire burning very near to him, to work out how quickly he could get out and what he had time to take. Yes, he took the cat. That was a good thing! But those conversations are not hypothetical for people who live in the Blue Mountains or Hawkesbury, whether it's fire or flood. They are conversations that many of us have had, and we've only been able to have them because we have connectivity.</para>
<para>In the case I experienced—this is going back to 2013—we could not communicate by voice, repeatedly. Texts had a better chance of getting through. Lines were very busy. You didn't actually know if your text message was getting through. They are really scary times for people, and that's why I had always known, theoretically, how important connectivity was. But it is absolutely a life-and-death matter in electorates like mine that the network is connected, reliable and resilient, and that's what I've been fighting for the 15 years I've been in politics but most particularly nearly 10 years I've been in this parliament. When I was in opposition I pushed hard to have that additional mobile funding we needed to deal with some of the black spots. When the Liberals gave up and took away a new mobile phone tower from Mount Tomar, which is on the Bells Line of Road that heads west from Sydney, the telcos decided it was a bit hard to install, so the Liberals agreed for them to take it away from our community, after we had fought—I thought—to get it back. I am very pleased to say that I understand the connection to power is imminent and that community and everybody who passes through that busy stretch—years and years after it should have——will soon have mobile coverage across that whole section.</para>
<para>When fires and flooding in the Macdonald Valley in the northern part of my electorate of Macquarie made it impossible for the Liberals to ignore our telecommunication needs, they provided funding to the Hawkesbury council. Hawkesbury council had minimal experience and expertise in mobile phone installations. However, that was a decision and a commitment the Morrison government made, and then they lost that election.</para>
<para>On coming to government, even though we had been assured that things were in place, no movement had happened on that—the funding hadn't even been properly secured—so we worked hard to secure the funding and to bring council and Telstra together, along with some very savvy Macdonald Valley association members, to deliver some improvements. Even now, we are still waiting on two parts of the project in the valley and one section of a project on the Bells Line of Road at Berambing. They weren't completed before the funding expired. I am still to this day fighting to get that one back on track because my community needs those bits all linked up.</para>
<para>We have Hawkesbury Heights with a new tower operating, Yellow Rock is about to get its new tower, and those things are the difference between life and death. <inline font-style="italic">(Time expired)</inline></para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:32</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BOYCE</name>
    <name.id>299498</name.id>
    <electorate>Flynn</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>An elderly lady is frantically trying to ring triple 0 as her neighbour has a heart attack but she can't get through to emergency services. A mother is frustrated as she is unable to pay her household quarterly electricity bill, as the two-factor authentication text isn't coming through from the bank. A worried father drives 40 minutes down the road to be able to call the local GP practice to book an appointment for his sick daughter. A community is furious that they are unable to make calls or text for weeks over Christmas, as their local mobile phone tower is down from recent rain. An exhausted small business owner places a 'cash only' sign on the front door of their shop as the eftpos machine has been dropping out all week. This is the reality of telecommunications in rural and regional Australia in the electorate of Flynn.</para>
<para>I strongly support the member for Mallee's motion that notes the following:</para>
<quote><para class="block">(a)the 3G telecommunications network was switched off on the Government's watch in 2024;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b)the interim report of the Senate inquiry into the shutdown made clear recommendations about the impending shutdown, recommending that the Government delay the shutdown until it was satisfied that 'the 4G network provides coverage equivalent to or better than the coverage provided by the licensee's 3G network';</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c)the Government relied on the assurances of commercial operators to ensure equivalent mobile coverage after the shutdown but despite promises, regional Australians have been detrimentally affected and thousands of consumers have been left with worse, or no, coverage at all;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d)furthermore, there have been reports of poor handling of consumer complaints about their loss of service post 3G shutdown; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(e)the Government has failed to take responsibility for the fallout of the 3G shutdown in regional Australia, and its response to the final report by the Senate into the shutdown was again lazy and noncommittal, failing to agree to any new actions; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2)calls upon the Minister for Communications to take responsibility for the botched 3G shutdown and its impact on the connectivity of regional Australians by:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a)providing transparency regarding the crowdsourcing component of the National Audit of Mobile Coverage and expanding it to include off-road areas (including on private land such as farming and grazing properties) to ensure an accurate picture of the impact of the shutdown on mobile coverage is attained; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b)thoroughly addressing the first recommendation of the final Senate inquiry report to 'establish a program to help customers that have lost mobile phone coverage since the 3G shutoff'.</para></quote>
<para>Telecommunications have gotten so bad in my electorate that my 3½-hour commute to my home town of Taroom from my Gladstone office can take up to six hours, as I have to pull over frequently to take calls from constituents and so forth. Not having a dependable phone service is undoubtedly isolating for individuals, stifling for business and potentially dangerous in any emergency. Landline telephones are often the only form of communication between one cattle station and its neighbours and the outside world, and these are in disrepair and can take weeks and sometimes months to fix when things go wrong. In rural areas, people are significant distances from service centres and even further from regional towns, and the need for reliable phone coverage is paramount and even more essential than in the cities. With banks and other essential services pushing for online over face-to-face assistance and closing branches in regions, there needs to be wider-spread phone coverage instead of reductions.</para>
<para>It's simply unthinkable that those in rural and regional areas are to be left with no communication capabilities or to face extortionate prices to gain access. It's quite clear to me that, in regard to the big telcos, the telecommunications issue is one of economics rather than service delivery. I would argue that, because of the enormous progression of technology and the cost, telcos are not interested in providing communications to communities where is little or no economic benefit for them. This is why all service obligations should be reviewed to provide better communications outcomes, particularly for isolated communities.</para>
<para>I invite the Minister for Communications and the CEOs of Telstra and Optus to the Flynn electorate to see how dire the situation really is. They need to speak to our regional communities and understand the impacts the 3G shutdown is having now and how telecommunications continue to get worse. <inline font-style="italic">(Time expired)</inline></para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:37</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr DAVID SMITH</name>
    <name.id>276714</name.id>
    <electorate>Bean</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I'm pleased to rise to speak to this motion and recognise the contributions of earlier speakers. I thank the member for Mallee for bringing this matter to the attention of the House. In doing so, the member has afforded us the opportunity to explore the importance and implications of the 3G shutdown and what can be learned from it.</para>
<para>This issue sits at the crossroads of so much of what is important and relevant for all people everywhere 25 years into the 21st century. It's an issue which touches on safe and accessible communications across all avenues and spectrums. It also directly concerns the constant change and advance of technology and the means by which upgrades take place. I suspect that this will not be the last time that this House will debate similar issues.</para>
<para>Let us be completely clear. The decision to turn off the 3G network was not one made by the government. This was a commercial decision, a decision made by Australia's three mobile network operators—namely, Telstra, Optus and Vodafone-TPG. They made this decision, and, while we are navigating the impacts and implications of this switch-off, the reasons behind the change as stated by the three mobile network operators make sense. The 3G network was very suitable for calls and texts but only for basic online activities and completely unsuitable for accessing the full range of data-intensive online applications and services which are an everyday part of our economic society. In short, we had outgrown what 3G could offer, and the continuing presence of this capability was taking up valuable spectrum.</para>
<para>But, as with all change, the 3G switch-off has not come without some cost. All technological change comes with impacts that are not all positive. That does not mean that change and progress should be avoided or allowed to occur without any support or intervention at all. Indeed, the difference between this government and the previous one is that we're committed to seeing the change through and ensuring that no-one is left behind or falls through the cracks that can sometimes form between opportunity and progress.</para>
<para>The government has made its expectations clear to the mobile network operators, and we are continuing to monitor the impacts of the 3G switch-off. We've already identified areas where coverage and access to communications have been adversely impacted, and we are providing support in those areas and to those affected. As an example of this, we are currently offering round 3 of the On Farm Connectivity Program, through which we are assisting primary producers to improve connectivity to their farms.</para>
<para>Additionally, the former minister for communications, the member for Greenway, convened a roundtable with the mobile network operators, other industry actors, regulators and consumers to explore the process and outcomes of the 3G network shutdown. From it, the government has a clearer understanding of what worked, what didn't and what needs to happen differently next time—because it is inevitable that there will be a next time for a network shutdown, and, when that time comes, we will be ready.</para>
<para>But the negative impacts from the 3G shutdown are just a very small part of the story. For the vast majority of Australians, the shutdown occurred without perceptible change whatsoever. Indeed, it's fair to say most didn't even notice. So, from that perspective, the 3G switch-off was largely successful. But that in itself is not a reason to not learn from the things that didn't go properly during this shutdown process, and it's important that we ensure that we support those that have fallen through the cracks and make sure that they don't fall through the cracks going forward.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>C2T</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The time allotted for this debate has expired. The debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next sitting.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Dismissal of the Whitlam Government: 50th Anniversary</title>
          <page.no>187</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:42</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms STANLEY</name>
    <name.id>265990</name.id>
    <electorate>Werriwa</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes that 11 November 2025 marks the 50th anniversary of the removal of the Government of Prime Minister Whitlam; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) acknowledges:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the work of Professor Jenny Hocking to ensure that the historical events that happened at that time are documented;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) that the reforms of Prime Minister Whitlam's Government modernised Australian society and its economy; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) that the impact of Prime Minister Whitlam's policies continue to define Australia's political landscape.</para></quote>
<para>The community I have the privilege of serving in this place is one that I have lived in all my life, which means I remember many of the members for Werriwa. The Honourable Edward Gough Whitlam was Prime Minister while I was in high school. I remember the exhilaration of my parents at the election of the Labor government after 23 years of conservative rule and the changes that they were so looking forward to. I remember him coming to my high school, who were celebrating their first multicultural day, and speaking to our students.</para>
<para>This day in 1975 in many ways demonstrated how much that had changed already in Australia. Every culture was celebrated, discussed and admired. No-one was made to feel less. We were one, altogether. The Whitlam government was elected with a mandate to implement change and they left a legacy that is amazing, accomplishing so much in three short years, changing Australia for the better and laying the groundwork for the opportunities and successes we've enjoyed in the years since.</para>
<para>The Whitlam era was significant for Australia. His government believed it could improve the conditions for everyday Australians. In the first few weeks, conscription ended, diplomatic relations with China began, and the remaining troops returned home from Vietnam. This government also introduced universal health care, known as Medibank—which was dismantled after the Dismissal by the Fraser government, until Hawke brought it back as the Medicare we now know; the Racial Discrimination Act; non-discriminatory immigration rules and the enthusiastic pursuit of multiculturalism; increased spending on social housing; and the abolition of tertiary education fees, allowing many people, and many in this House, to attend university when it was previously out of reach. The Whitlam government introduced payments for single parents, allowing people the space to leave relationships, particularly if they were dangerous. The government for the first time supported refugees and women leaving domestic violence. There was equal pay for women in the workforce. Fifty years later, it is amazing to think that women doing the same job didn't earn the same pay. That changed with Whitlam. There was the establishment of the Australian Legal Aid Office. There was the passing of the Family Law Act, which introduced no-fault divorce, making such a difficult time better for families. Many of the suburbs in Werriwa did not have access to basic sewerage when Whitlam was elected. His government ensured that this was addressed as a public-health measure.</para>
<para>But all those reforms came to an abrupt halt when, on 11 November 1975, the Governor-General sacked Prime Minister Whitlam. This was a difficult time for Australia and our community. I still remember the day vividly. I came home from school to find my mother in a flood of tears. When I asked who died, thinking that could have been the only explanation, she told me it was much worse than that—that Mr Whitlam had been sacked. She was fearful about what would happen next, as I'm sure many were at the time. In this time of uncertainty, it was, however, Mr Whitlam's composure and strength that ensured the election campaign remained a contest of ideas. He asked the Australian people, famously, to maintain their rage and enthusiasm.</para>
<para>Professor Jenny Hocking, one of Australia's eminent biographers, fought hard and at great personal risk to ensure the events that led to the dismissal were discovered and made available to the Australian people. Her tenacity ensured that it is now part of our history. She needed to take her case to the High Court so that she could get access to the Palace letters. Her goal was to see whether there had been external circumstances which led to the dismissal. And what she found demystified the events and allowed a fuller explanation of what led up to the events of 11 November 1975. On the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the dismissal, it's timely in this place that changes and shapes so much of our public life in Australia and a place that Gough dominated for decades that we acknowledge Whitlam's life and the efforts of people like Jenny Hocking, who have meticulously recorded it.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>C2T</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Is the motion seconded?</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Ms Coffey</name>
    <name.id>312323</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion and reserve my right to speak.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:47</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr BIRRELL</name>
    <name.id>288713</name.id>
    <electorate>Nicholls</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I want to thank the member for Werriwa for bringing this motion on. It's very exciting for those of us who follow Australian history to talk about this, and it must be a great honour to represent an electorate that had such a significant person in Australian politics as one of its former members. I was seven months old when the dismissal happened. I'll give personal recollections at some point. The 1972 election was a significant moment, when the Whitlam government was elected. It had been 1951 since the coalition had previously governed. One of the notable things about when the Whitlam government came in was a sworn-in ministry of two people—a duumvirate—of Gough Whitlam and Lance Barnard passing a lot of the legislation they'd promised in those first few weeks.</para>
<para>There's no doubt the Whitlam government achieved some significant things in modernising Australia, recognising China and having a focus on the arts, and they need to be congratulated for that. Obviously, there was a debate between the two sides of politics leading to a 1974 double-dissolution election, which Whitlam won with a reduced majority but also some very close numbers in the Senate, which was to become such a sticking point as we entered 1975. This is where the Whitlam government started to get into trouble with ministers who, with the probably noble intentions of developing Australia's resource sector, had funny ideas about how to finance that, including Rex Connor and Jim Cairns going to try and get a loan from a Pakistani loan broker, Tirath Khemlani, who promised to finance some of these projects from some pretty strange parts of the word. Of course, that was against the convention of the Treasury at the time. The loans affair did eventually start to cause the Whitlam government a lot of problems.</para>
<para>It was said of Gough Whitlam, I think, that he was a totally honest and decent man who expected everyone else to be as honest and decent as he was, and that was to his own undoing. Anyway, he was forced to sack those two ministers—Jim Cairns and Rex Connor—and that led to the battle of wills between Fraser and Whitlam and the deferral of the money bills, or the appropriations bills, in the Senate. When that couldn't be resolved and Australia was threatened with having a government forced to govern without supply of appropriation money, obviously something had to happen.</para>
<para>What happened will be debated for many, many years by constitutional experts and people who have a different view of things. You can only imagine how dramatic it must have been for Whitlam to drive out to see Sir John Kerr at Yarralumla, to be handed a letter by Sir John Kerr dismissing him and withdrawing his commission as Prime Minister and then, in the next few moments, to see Malcolm Fraser come into the office and be handed a letter commissioning him to form a government. They were incredible times in Australian democratic history.</para>
<para>It's worth noting that people say—and I learned this when I was a kid—that Kerr sacked a democratically elected government, and that's true. However, I think it's worth noting the caveat that Fraser was commissioned to form a caretaker government as long as he promised to call an election, which he did, and that election was won in a significant landslide by the coalition. The Dismissal was a huge moment in Australian history and, as I said earlier, it's debated. I think the Whitlam government was an iconic government. It did some wonderful things and it governed in an irresponsible way throughout 1975. The Governor-General, whether he was right to act or not—somebody had to break the deadlock so those supply bills could be passed.</para>
<para>It's interesting that, when Whitlam was dismissed and went back, he then failed to inform his own team. They still thought they were in government and passed the supply bills to the Senate, not knowing the government had changed. Again, those were crazy times in Australian politics. He was an iconic person, and it was an iconic moment in Australian history. We need to talk about it and celebrate, and I thank you for bringing the motion.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:52</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms LAWRENCE</name>
    <name.id>299150</name.id>
    <electorate>Hasluck</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I thank the member for Werriwa for bringing this motion before the parliament. On 11 November my mind's focus will be on Remembrance Day. I'll also, as many of us do on that date, be considering the events of 1975, now 50 years ago. Almost all of us were children at that time. I'm not going to be able to do justice to the matters of the constitutional crisis in a couple of minutes, so I, too, recommend that those interested read Professor Hocking's article in <inline font-style="italic">Pearls and Irritations</inline>. There has been so much written about the rights and the wrongs and the what-might-have-beens, so I will focus on the legacy of the Whitlam government and what it means for me and the people of Hasluck today in 2025.</para>
<para>Prior to his election, Whitlam said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">We are all diminished as citizens when any of us are poor. Poverty is a national waste as well as an individual waste. We are all diminished when any of us are denied proper education. The nation is the poorer—a poorer economy, a poorer civilisation, because of this human and national waste.</para></quote>
<para>The Whitlam government abolished university fees and expanded access to tertiary education. They established the Australian Schools Commission to allocate funding on the basis of need. Whitlam changed the face of education in Australia. How many of us simply would not be here in this place now but for the changes then? Today, we have reduced student debt and have come to agreement with the states and territories for public schools to be funded to 100 per cent of the schooling resource standard. I know what a great difference this will make to the many primary and high schools in Hasluck.</para>
<para>In 1972, Whitlam said they would establish universal health insurance so that every Australian could have access to Medicare without fear of cost, and they did. The Whitlam government introduced the first universal health insurance scheme in Medibank. Unfortunately, that sank into the swamp under Fraser, but we built it again as Medicare under Hawke.</para>
<para>The Albanese government has since then invested more in Medicare, more than any other. We aim to see bulk billing restored so that the only card you need to see the doctor is your Medicare card. Already, the fully bulk-billed Medicare Urgent Care Clinics have had over two million presentations. In Hasluck, in addition to the centres we opened in Midland and in Morley, we will be adding a new one in Ellenbrook. This is something I've been advocating for strongly because I see the success of it.</para>
<para>Whitlam's government invested in regional development infrastructure and affordable housing. My own parents were beneficiaries of the rent-to-buy home policy. Our lives would be very difficult if that hadn't existed. In the last parliament, we created the HAFF and more recently provided for five per cent deposits for new homebuyers. There will be tens of thousands of families whose lives will be now changed for the better, as mine was, by Labor policy.</para>
<para>Whitlam established the Australian heritage commission, the environment department and federal environmental impact assessments. He said, 'A government which truly serves the people must also serve the land on which the people live.' I have no doubt if Gough Whitlam was in the parliament today he'd be scathing of those members obstructing the next generation of progress in protecting the environment.</para>
<para>Whitlam was the first to develop a recognition of Aboriginal land rights. He established a separate ministry of Aboriginal affairs, and passed legislation to outlaw discrimination on race and sex. In 1973 Whitlam said, 'The basic principle of our government is equality—equality of opportunity, equality before the law, equality in the community.' Protection of rights, everyone's rights, is a fundamental purpose of government in a democracy. Whitlam instituted the national employment and training scheme, and wanted jobs for all citizens.</para>
<para>We have provided fee-free TAFE and a renewed focus of upskilling a young and not-so-young people for the jobs of the future. Whitlam's government emphasised open government accountability and reform of institutions such as the Administrative Appeals Tribunal. One of the tasks we were set on coming to office three years ago was to establish a national anticorruption commission and to renew the administrative appeals process, which the coalition unfortunately had allowed to fall into disarray. In 1974, Whitlam commissioned the Hope royal commission on intelligence and security and established a new accountability framework, and we have legislation before the House right now for the consolidation of that oversight.</para>
<para>The Whitlam government was indeed short lived and was not by any means perfect. But Gough Whitlam's legacy and that of the 28th and 29th parliaments and caucus is one that continues to live on, and continues to provide lessons and inspiration as a touchstone for our own deliberations in this parliament today.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>18:57</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr McCORMACK</name>
    <name.id>219646</name.id>
    <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>'Well may we say God save the Queen because nothing will save the Governor-General.' That is one of the most famous sentences ever uttered. As Edward Gough Whitlam spoke those words, hovering around on the steps of Old Parliament House was one Norman Gunston. That was an only-in-Australia political moment. Could you imagine any other country where such an historic event was taking place—the dismissal of the country's leader—and you've got a comedian there doing almost stand-up comedy, talking with Kip Enderby, discussing the moment with Bob Hawke and others. Billy Sneddon was there. Of course, that statement has gone down in the annals of Australian political history.</para>
<para>There are many things we could say about EG Whitlam but I want to praise the great man—the great man—for that decentralisation program that he undertook. Certainly the Taxation Office going to Albury and, indeed, the establishment or promotion of Albury-Wodonga as united, as one, are hallmarks of what he did and what he achieved. Perhaps not many people know this but when he was 81 and contemplating his own mortality, in characteristic fashion he said, 'I first saw an aircraft in December 1919 when my father took me to Middle Head to watch Ross and Keith Smith when they flew to Mascot at the end of the first flight by Australians from England to Australia. I first boarded an aircraft at RAAF Cootamundra.' So the Riverina has an important piece of aviation history connected with the great man. Certainly he became a pilot of renown. He was obviously somebody who loved his country. All prime ministers love their country as all MPs, I would like to think, love their nation.</para>
<para>As I said, it's a shame that the decentralisation program he pursued vigorously at the start really hasn't been taken advantage of as a legacy of Gough Whitlam and we haven't got the big cities in inland Australia that we see in other countries, such as, for example, the United States of America. Eighty per cent of Australians—I think it's probably even higher—live on the eastern seaboard, They live on that coastal strip. We have such amazing opportunities for Australians and for migrants to avail themselves of in inland Australia. Gough had that vision. He tried to develop Albury-Wodonga as another big Canberra perhaps. But, whilst Albury-Wodonga is doing very nicely, it probably hasn't realised the vision that Gough had when he went there, when he stood on top of the hill and when he looked at the marvellous vista that there is. Today, only a small number of Commonwealth government agencies have established rural or regional offices in support of decentralisation. That is such a shame, because Gough did have that vision for this nation.</para>
<para>One of his other great legacies I would like to talk about is his late marvellous wife, Margaret. He was married to Margaret from 1942 until her death in 2012. Of course, EG Whitlam outlived her by a couple of years, dying on 21 October 2014 at the age of 98. But what a partnership they were. What a pair they were when they were either doing domestic duties or, indeed, on the world stage. There are many, many university graduates who owe their degree to Gough's vision for Australia. He wanted to make this country a smarter, fairer place. Yes, like for all prime ministers, there were ups and downs along the way. Certainly the end wouldn't have been the way that he would have liked it. But we record that moment in time. I'm pleased that the now Governor-General Sam Mostyn is also acknowledging this time and its importance with some activities and events because, as Australians, we should mark this very important milestone.</para>
<para>Debate adjourned.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Albanese Government</title>
          <page.no>190</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:03</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms CAMPBELL</name>
    <name.id>312823</name.id>
    <electorate>Moreton</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>It's been six months since 3 May, when Australians went to the polls. It's been six months since Australians got to participate in that great dramatic and democratic process of being able to cast their vote. It's been six months since people chose a Labor government focused on cost of living. But the measure of a party and the measure of a government has nothing to do with winning elections. The measure of a government is what it does with its time in government. The measure of a government is what it delivers for the people who elected it. The measure of a government is what it does for everyday Australians when it comes to governing.</para>
<para>You couldn't see a starker contrast between what we've seen from Labor in government and what we've seen over the years from the coalition government. When it comes to the Labor government, we are a government with our eyes firmly fixed on delivering for Australians every single day. Today, I want to take you through those points of delivery—what we've been focused on and what we've had our eye fixed on.</para>
<para>The first is urgent care clinics. The Albanese Labor government has been focused on rolling out urgent care clinics so that people in our suburbs can access bulk-billed health care. In my electorate of Moreton, and certainly on Brisbane's south side more broadly, we have one at the bottom of Canossa hospital and we've got one at the bottom of the PA. These urgent care clinics give people who have a high fever the ability to go to a place with just their Medicare card and see a doctor. They give people who have a strained arm the opportunity to go to a place with just their Medicare card and see a doctor. If your kid is sick on the weekend, they give you a place to go with just your Medicare card and see a doctor.</para>
<para>We've also been investing in women's health—the largest investment in women's health that this country has ever seen. And what have we seen come from that? We've seen more endometriosis and pelvic pain clinics. We've seen investment into putting oral contraceptive medicines on the PBS for the first time in 30 years. And we've seen menopause assessments being rebated for the first time. That's what we're doing; we are delivering on women's health.</para>
<para>There is more bulk-billing. On 1 November, we introduced an increase to the bulk-billing incentives. That means we will see hundreds of GP practices sign up, hundreds of GP practices who will now only bulk-bill. If you walk through the doors of a Medicare bulk-billing practice, again, that means you will only have to use your Medicare card. This is something that is incredibly important for accessible and affordable health care.</para>
<para>When it comes to the cost of living, we've also been investing. We've introduced a 20 per cent reduction for student debt balances. Whether that's a TAFE debt or debt related to a university course, for someone in my electorate like Helena, who has benefited from the average of $5,500 off her student debt, this is life-changing stuff. This is stuff that has a real impact.</para>
<para>We have made medicines cheaper so that you will never pay more than $25 for a medicine on the PBS. For people in my electorate like Ken, it means he saves more than $60 each and every month because of a Labor government. We have made deposits of five per cent available for first home buyers, and that means for people in my electorate like Kane and Jaxen they have been able to get into the housing market.</para>
<para>Labor is delivering, and the delivering that we are doing every day makes the cost of living easier for people, but we know there is more to do. That is why these past six months are just the start. Every day, this Albanese Labor government will be focusing on delivering for people. And when we contrast that against what we have seen the opposition spending their time on—they haven't been focused on Helena, they haven't been focused on Ken, they haven't been focused on Kane and Jaxen; they have been focused on themselves. They have been focused on the member for New England, the member for Canning, they have been focused on an absolute shambles of a party room. We are focused on delivery; they are focused on division.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:08</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr McCORMACK</name>
    <name.id>219646</name.id>
    <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>When you have households across Australia paying 15 per cent more for food; 15 per cent more for health, with bulk-billing rates going from 88 per cent to 77 per cent, so down 11 per cent; 19 per cent more for housing—that's if you're lucky enough to get a roof over your head, either through ownership or rent; paying 37 per cent more for insurance; and nearly 40 per cent more for power, for electricity, then you know that something is seriously wrong with the government of the day. And something is dreadfully, horribly wrong with the administration of Australia right at this point in time.</para>
<para>Instead of coming in here and crowing about what they've achieved in six months, Labor should be tucking their tails between their legs, going back to their electorates and listening to the small-business community, listening to Mr and Mrs Average, listening to everyday, ordinary Australians who are hurting, who are crippled with the debt foisted upon them by this government.</para>
<para>Indeed, when you talk about insurance, you've got a complete market failure there, a complete collapse. You have got in some of those river communities, where they have been put in place thanks to coalition infrastructure spending—some of those opposite have no idea what I'm talking about—levee banks that were not there before. And yet people are still paying higher and higher insurance rates. There has to be a conversation with the insurance industry as to why this is so.</para>
<para>Then, of course, you've got legitimate businesses next to legitimate tobacco sellers who cannot even get insurance because of the fear that insurance companies have of those legitimate cigarette sellers being firebombed by the illegal gangs that are using it as their MO for making money. This is costing the government, through illegal tobacco excise, millions upon millions of dollars, and something has to give.</para>
<para>I feel for those state police officers who are pulling up people on the Hume Highway all of the time, and then—what do we do? Well, we just let them back into society. This has got to be something that the government should take in hand, because it's costing revenue—millions of dollars.</para>
<para>We've got bailout after bailout. We had it at Whyalla with $2.4 billion, Nyrstar with $135 million, Glencore with $600 million and now—Tomago. Tomago, where the Prime Minister stood and said, 'This is the vision for a future made in Australia.' And now that aluminium smelter is, potentially, facing bankruptcy. Well, if that is a future made in Australia, then Labor has to go back to the drawing board as to what it is doing to charge those high energy costs that companies simply can't afford. It'll probably be a boon for the minister for climate action and energy, the member for McMahon, because it will take 11 per cent of New South Wales's power supply, and that will therefore reduce emissions.</para>
<para>But is this the way we want to go? Do we want to start sending everything manufacturing and factory-wise and industrial-wise offshore? Well, that's not the Future Made in Australia that Labor purports to represent.</para>
<para>Of course, it's not just that. Every time people go and fill up their cars, they're paying through the nose at the petrol bowser, and they're paying through the nose at the cash-out register in their local supermarket, because of the higher costs foisted upon them by this government, and something has to give. We can't afford to keep saddling future generations with the costs that we are putting on them. And if Labor thinks that this is a novel exercise, celebrating their achievements after six months, well, I tell you what, there's a lot more work to do.</para>
<para>Yes, while there have been some good little achievements, the cost overall to everyday, ordinary Australians is hurting. It's hurting them because they can't put a roof over their heads. It's hurting them because they can't find a house to rent. It's hurting them because every quarter, when they open that energy bill, they should see the Prime Minister or the member for McMahon's face staring back at them, because they're the ones forcing the prices up 40 per cent over and above what they were when Labor came into power in May 2022. That was a disastrous day for this nation, and this is a disastrous six months for this nation as well.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:13</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BRISKEY</name>
    <name.id>263427</name.id>
    <electorate>Maribyrnong</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Today does mark six months since the re-election of the Albanese Labor government—six months of action, six months of delivery, six months of putting Australians first. And let me tell you, we have not wasted a single second. From day one, we promised results, not rhetoric. We said the first law we'd pass in this parliament would be to cut student debt by 20 per cent, and we did. Over three million Australians now save an average of $5,500. That's real money in people's pockets. That's a nurse being able to save for a first home. That's a young professional finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. That's Labor getting on with the job, while the coalition hangs by a thread.</para>
<para>We know life is still tough for many Australians. Families are juggling household bills, parents are working long hours, young people are worried about their future. That's why Labor is acting where it matters most. We've made medicines cheaper, boosted the minimum wage, protected penalty rates and expanded paid parental leave. This is about fairness. This is about dignity. This is about giving Australians the security that they deserve.</para>
<para>Health care is no different. Every Australian should be able to see their doctor when they need to, without worrying about the cost. That's why we've made the single largest investment into Medicare in its history. We are opening 50 new urgent care clinics on top of the 87 that are already servicing our communities. Families can take their kids to see a doctor when they need it and they can get the care that they need quickly without having to seek help in an ED.</para>
<para>Mental health is also no longer an afterthought. We're opening 31 new and upgraded Medicare mental health centres, expanding Headspace services and training more professionals to meet demand. And, in Maribyrnong, young people will soon have access to a Headspace service in Moonee Valley—a place to be heard, a place to get support and a place to know they're not alone. For younger Australians dreaming of buying their first home, we're turning that dream into a reality with just a five per cent deposit, and we can see more homes being built right across the country. This is about creating real opportunities that make a difference for families, workers and young people getting into the housing market.</para>
<para>Right here in Maribyrnong, Labor is delivering for our community as well. The Gladstone Park Bowls Club is getting a brand new synthetic green and shelter. Walter Street Reserve will soon have a completely new pavilion, with female change rooms, and the Buckley bowls club redevelopment is transforming the site into a bowls super hub—bringing together Buckley Park, Maribyrnong Park and Essendon bowls clubs. These are the places where families, neighbours and communities come together to play, socialise and celebrate. After a decade in government, the coalition were never serious about investing in Maribyrnong. But Labor is getting on with the job and delivering for our community.</para>
<para>Speaking of the coalition, nothing has changed. They remain more divided than ever. They're obsessed with attacking each other and are focused on themselves and pushing extremist policies that punish everyday Australians. Even as women, young people and multicultural communities turn their backs on them, their message of division remains. While they bicker, leak and talk our country down, Labor is getting on with the hard work of delivering for working people and their families. Of course we know there is more work to be done. Life is still hard for many. Families are juggling costs, students still feel pressure and communities need support. But my colleagues and I are listening to our communities and we are prepared to work.</para>
<para>Fixing the damage of a decade under those opposite doesn't happen overnight, but we are determined to keep working for all Australians. Six months in, the Albanese Labor government has delivered student debt relief, cost-of-living support, stronger health care, mental health services, women's health funding, first-home-buyer assistance and local projects that make a difference to people in my community. The contrast has never been so clear. Labor is working hard together while the coalition is marred with hate and division. We are proud of what we have achieved, honest about the work still to be done and committed to building a better, fairer, stronger future for us all.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:17</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
    <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Six months ago Australians went to the polls and they weren't sure about the direction of their country. I've said publicly before that, when Australians went to the polls six months ago, they were nervous about their future. They were anxious. They did not feel that their government was necessarily the right government for the nation. But we also, I believe on our side, failed to give Australians a viable alternative. As a consequence, people ultimately made the choice that they felt was available to them. They were forced to vote for a bad government to be re-elected because they had no alternative. That's our failure. It's not something for Labor members to come into this chamber and air punch around and celebrate their incredible victory. At the end of the day, it has not been this massive vote of confidence in Labor government or its direction for our country, because it doesn't have one.</para>
<para>There was one seat where things were a little bit different. The seat, of course, in context was the federal electorate of Goldstein. We're enormously proud of what happened in the context of the federal electorate of Goldstein, because what we saw was where hope transcended fear and where a campaign run from local residents standing up for the type of community we wanted to be transcended a lot of the issues that were presented by the former member. It's very important to remember what happened. They campaigned on the basis of trust and climate action, but, as soon as they were elected to office, what happened? They did things like vote for billions of dollars of new coal and gas subsidies, despite saying they would do other things—as did the member for Wentworth, as did the member for Curtin, as did the member for Kooyong, as did the member for North Sydney and as did the member for Mackellar.</para>
<para>When you're campaigning on the basis of trust and then you go and break such a pledge to your community, it is a fundamental breach of trust with the community that will no doubt continue to haunt them for the rest of their political days. Even Senator Joyce and Senator Canavan didn't vote for these subsidies. But you had, at the time, the member for Goldstein, the member for Kooyong, the member for Mackellar, the member for Curtin and the member for North Sydney voting for billions of dollars in new fossil fuel subsidies. It raises a fundamental issue of trust.</para>
<para>Nonetheless, Goldstein made a different choice, because it saw that there was a direct consequence, despite having been told it was going to have a community backed Independent who was going to stand by the community. It watched $100 million worth of social infrastructure ripped out of the community. The member for Maribyrnong, who just gave her speech, boasted about all of the resources that this Labor government is now giving specifically to her community. Well, Goldstein had a very different experience during the last term of parliament. We watched as $100 million of local infrastructure funding was ripped out of our community, and what went with it was the financial resources that the City of Bayside and the Glen Eira had to upgrade things like the Wilson Storage oval in Sandringham, McKinnon Reserve and, of course, Brighton Beach Oval. What it meant is that women don't have change room facilities in our community despite election commitments having consistently been made to deliver them. This is the problem. Despite all the rhetoric and all the spin, Labor has failed the Goldstein community, and we are continuing to miss out.</para>
<para>Now is the time for us to stand up, because in another six months this Labor government will not have just failed Goldstein; it will have failed Australia. I've never seen a time when we've had a government that has been so inept and disinterested in combating open corruption. That's because there are cartel kickbacks that go from CFMEU public projects all the way through to connections to the Labor Party itself. Only last week we had an outrageous situation—</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>299150</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I'll ask the member to pause.</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Repacholi</name>
    <name.id>298840</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Deputy Speaker, could I ask for that to be withdrawn, please.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>On what grounds?</para>
</continue>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>299150</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>To assist the House, it would be appreciated if you would withdraw your earlier remarks in relation—</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>For the sake of brevity, I'll withdraw them. But there is a fundamental reality, where we have cartel kickbacks that are taken from Australian taxpayers and first home buyers. They are then given over to the CFMEU to organised crime, to bikie gangs. And, yes, they are directly given over to officials and people directly connected to the Labor Party. If members of the Labor Party don't like that then maybe they should stop taking those—</para>
</continue>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>299150</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I'll ask the member to pause.</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Repacholi</name>
    <name.id>298840</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Deputy Speaker, we ask that that be withdrawn as well. They're the same comments he made before.</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>299150</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>If you would withdraw those remarks—</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>On the point of order: they are not the same comments.</para>
</continue>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>299150</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>They are still a reflection on the members, and, in the interest of progressing forward, I ask you to withdraw the comments.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I'm happy to cease my speech.</para>
</continue>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>299150</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>If the member for Goldstein would return—I asked if you would withdraw the comments because they are a reflection on members.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I will withdraw.</para>
</continue>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>299150</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Thank you.</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>19:22</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms KARA COOK</name>
    <name.id>316537</name.id>
    <electorate>Bonner</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>It is hard to believe that it's been six months since the election, six months since the people of Bonner put their trust in me and six months since the Albanese Labor government was returned to continue building a stronger, fairer and more secure Australia—and what a wonderful six months it has been. In that short time we have achieved a great deal together across our community and, of course, across the nation.</para>
<para>Locally in Bonner we've been out every single day, listening, helping and delivering. We held our first-ever Bonner Seniors Expo. Nearly 1,000 seniors came through the doors to connect, learn and celebrate the vital contribution of older Australians. I've also visited 21 schools in the last six months, meeting students, teachers and parents who are passionate about their futures. My office has also supported over 1,500 residents, helping locals to navigate the NDIS, aged care and secure housing and to understand government services. We've hosted mobile offices each and every month to bring government to the people, not the other way round—because that is what being a strong local voice looks like.</para>
<para>From Carina to Carindale, Wynnum to Wishart, and Murarrie to Mansfield, we've supported 23 community and sporting clubs with almost $60,000 in volunteer grants, helping groups like the Mt Gravatt Bowls Club, Bayside BMX and the Rochedale Community Garden continue the work that brings our community together. We've also backed another seven local organisations with over $71,000 in funding through the Stronger Communities Program, delivering for groups like BABI Youth and Family Services, Mackenzie State Special School and Wynnum Manly Seagulls. That's what Labor investment looks like—practical, local and life changing.</para>
<para>Nationally this government has hit the ground running. We made a promise to the Australian people to keep focused, to stay the course and to keep building a better future, and we're delivering. We've delivered on making health care cheaper by strengthening Medicare. We're delivering on helping Australians earn more and keep more of what they earn. We're delivering real cost-of-living relief—not slogans but action. We're building a future made in Australia, supporting good jobs and clean energy industries that will power us forward.</para>
<para>We promised that the very first thing we would do would be to cut student debt by 20 per cent, and that's exactly what we did. That's 21,000 people in Bonner who now have less student debt hanging over them and over three million Australians nationwide saving an average of $5½ thousand. We said we would strengthen Medicare and we've done that too. Just this weekend, we tripled the bulk-billing incentive, the largest investment in Medicare in its history. That means more Australians can see a GP for free just by showing their Medicare card, not their credit card. It means families won't have to choose between paying for groceries and seeing a doctor. In Bonner alone, 11 clinics have already signed on to this new incentive, with more on the way. That is what Labor's commitment to fairness looks like.</para>
<para>We're boosting housing security and helping more Australians into their first home. Through our Home Guarantee Scheme we've made it possible for people to buy a home with just a five per cent deposit. Already 391 people in Bonner have done exactly that. We are just six months in and we're not stopping there. There is still more to come in Bonner. We're going to see the Medicare urgent care clinic opening at Carindale in the coming months, $1.5 million to support OzFish expand reef restoration and protect our precious marine environment, $500,000 for the Wynnum-Manly men's shed for a new shed and $1 million for new lights at the Wynnum Manly District Cricket Club, giving local families and players the chance to enjoy evening games and community life under the lights.</para>
<para>This is only the beginning. The people of Bonner sent me here to work hard to deliver and to keep their voices strong in this parliament. That's exactly what I will continue to do every day for every person in every corner of our community. That's exactly what the Albanese Labor government will also continue to do right across our nation. We're off to a flying start. We're only six months in and we're just getting started.</para>
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    <name role="metadata">Ms CHANEY</name>
    <name.id>300006</name.id>
    <electorate>Curtin</electorate>
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  <para>I would like to talk at this point, six months into the new term of government, about the government's record on integrity and transparency. In the last term, this government talked a really big game on integrity and got off to a pretty good start by announcing the National Anti-Corruption Commission. As part of the 2022 election platform the government committed to making government more open and accountable. The NACC was good in concept, but the lack of transparency and public findings have meant that it has had limited effectiveness, and I think it's been a bit of a disappointment. Six months into this term, this government is failing on integrity. The Centre for Public Integrity has given the Albanese government a fail grade on its integrity report card due to secrecy, a failure to curb lobbyists and diminishing accountability. I want to talk about a few of those areas.</para>
<para>Firstly, on appointments, the Briggs report was commissioned to improve transparency and merit based processes for public sector appointments. It was given to the government in August 2023. It was not designed to be a secret report, but it has not yet been disclosed. The ALP has continued the 'jobs for mates' culture and refuses to release that report publicly.</para>
<para>On freedom of information, the 2021 Labor Party platform committed to strengthening FOI laws. Under this government FOI refusals have risen to 24 per cent, compared to 10 to 18 per cent under the previous government, the average time for reviews by the OAIC has ballooned from six months to 15 months and proposed changes to the FOI laws have just been reintroduced into this chamber with no warning for tomorrow, at the same time as the once-in-a-lifetime environmental laws. It almost seems like the government is trying to slip these through without attention. These reduce transparency. There are more refusal powers, there are no anonymous requests and there are fees. This is not the improvement to the FOI laws that was promised.</para>
<para>This government has ignored Senate orders to produce documents and failed to release some really significant critical documents, including the ONI climate report and others. To rebuild trust in our government and our politicians, we need transparency and accountability. They've failed to produce the ONI climate report. We can't make good, informed decisions about decarbonisation if the stark picture of what the alternative is is hidden. We also haven't seen a response to the Murphy report on online gambling reform. It's now 859 days since that report was tabled and 677 days since the report became overdue. This theme has continued in relation to lobbying and secrecy around the EPBC Act as well. To rebuild trust in our government, we need this transparency and accountability. It's time that this government fulfilled its promises on those fronts.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>299150</name.id>
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  <para>The time allotted for this debate has expired. The debate is adjourned and the resumption of the debate will be made an order of the day for the next sitting.</para>
<para>Federation Chamber adjourned at 19:3 1</para>
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