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            <a href="Chamber" type="">Wednesday, 29 October 2025</a>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">The SPEAKER (</span>
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            <span style="font-weight:bold;">Milton Dick</span>
            <span style="font-weight:bold;">) </span>took the chair at 09:00, made an acknowledgement of country and read prayers.</span>
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        <title>STATEMENTS ON SIGNIFICANT MATTERS</title>
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          <title>Mental Health Month</title>
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            <title>Reference to Federation Chamber</title>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:14</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms McBRIDE</name>
    <name.id>248353</name.id>
    <electorate>Dobell</electorate>
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  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That further statements on mental health month be permitted in the Federation Chamber.</para></quote>
<para>Question agreed to.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:14</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
    <electorate></electorate>
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  <para>I present report No. 4 of the Selection Committee relating to the consideration of committee and delegation business and private members' business on Monday 3 November 2025. The report will be printed in the <inline font-style="italic">Hansard</inline> for today, and the committee's deliberations will appear on tomorrow's <inline font-style="italic">Notice Paper</inline>. Copies of the report have been placed on the table.</para>
<para class="italic"> <inline font-style="italic">The report read as follows—</inline></para>
<quote><para class="block">Report relating to the consideration of committee and delegation business and of private Members' business</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">1. The Committee met in private session on Tuesday, 28 October 2025.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">2. The Committee deliberated on items of committee and delegation business that had been notified, private Members' business items listed on the Notice Paper and notices lodged on Tuesday, 28 October 2025, and determined the order of precedence and times on Monday, 3 November 2025, as follows:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Items for House of Representatives Chamber (10.10 am to 12 noon)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Notices</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">1 MR GEE: To present a Bill for an Act to stop wind farms in State forests, and for related purposes. (<inline font-style="italic">Stopping Wind Farms in State Forests Bill 2025</inline>)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 27 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Presenter may speak to the second reading for a period not exceeding 10 minutes</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">pursuant to standing order 41. Debate must be adjourned pursuant to standing order 142.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">2 MS CHANEY: To present a Bill for an Act to amend the <inline font-style="italic">Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918</inline>, and for related purposes. (<inline font-style="italic">Commonwealth Electoral Amendment (Protecting Voters) Bill 2025</inline>)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 28 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Presenter may speak to the second reading for a period not exceeding 10 minutes</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">pursuant to standing order 41. Debate must be adjourned pursuant to standing order 142.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Orders of the day</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">1 REPEAL NET ZERO BILL 2025 (<inline font-style="italic">Mr Joyce</inline>): Second reading—Resumption of debate (<inline font-style="italic">from 27 October 2025</inline>).</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">20 minutes.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">All Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline>5<inline font-style="italic"> minutes each.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 4 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration of this matter should </inline> <inline font-style="italic">continue on</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> a future day.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Notices — continued</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">3 MR CALDWELL: To move:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) acknowledges that the Government has made Australia's housing crisis worse than ever by:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) overseeing a historic collapse of housing construction, with the last financial year seeing less homes built than at any other time during this Government;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) expanding the five per cent deposit scheme from a sensible and targeted approach, to an uncapped and non-means-tested, free-for-all which will push up prices and expose first home buyers to larger mortgages;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) creating the failing Housing Australia Future Fund which is buying houses from Australians, not building houses for Australians; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) allowing the criminal and corrupt Construction, Forestry and Maritime Employees Union to run rampant across Australian residential building sites, pushing up apartment prices by up to 30 per cent; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the Government continues to keep a $24,000 report into poor governance at Housing Australia secret; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) leaked advice from the Department of the Treasury states that the Government will fail to reach its National Housing Accord target of 1.2 million homes by 2029.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 28 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">40 minutes.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Mr Caldwell</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Other Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 8 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration of this matter should </inline> <inline font-style="italic">continue on</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> a future day.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">4 MR SOON: To move:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) 3 November 2025 marks six months since the federal election; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the Government is delivering on the commitments it made to the Australian people by:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) strengthening Medicare;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) ensuring Australians earn more and keep more of what they earn;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iii) easing cost of living pressures; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iv) building a Future Made in Australia; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) acknowledges that while the Government is focused on building Australia's future, the Opposition is focused on themselves.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 28 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">remaining private Members' business time prior to 12 noon.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Mr Soon</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Other Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 6 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration of this matter should continue at a later hour.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Items for Federation Chamber (11 am to 1.30 pm)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Notices</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">1 MS STEGGALL: To move:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the Government's National Climate Risk Assessment highlights that climate change is costing the Australian economy more than $40 billion per year and this cost is predicted to rise to at least $73 billion, or four per cent of gross domestic product (GDP) by 2060; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) current policies to protect our communities from climate change remain inadequate with spending on climate resilience and adaptation remaining too low; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) calls on the Government to:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) lift climate adaptation spending to 0.25 per cent of GDP;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) establish a National Climate Adaptation Authority to oversee the implementation of the National Adaptation Plan;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) facilitate better funding for local governments to strengthen resilience against climate change within their communities;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) build strong private-public partnerships with the insurance industry that reduces underlying risk through enforceable, publicly funded resilience measures and transparent hazard data;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(e) ensure that climate resilience projects and measures are undertaken in collaboration with First Nations;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(f) broaden the safeguard mechanism to include all sectors across the economy are mitigating climate risks;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(g) ensure that polluting companies pay the social and environmental cost of the carbon they emit; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(h) reform the Petroleum Resource Rent Tax to ensure Australians get their fair share from their resources.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 28 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">15 minutes.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Ms Steggall</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Other Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 3 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration of this matter should </inline> <inline font-style="italic">continue on</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> a future day.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">2 MS MILLER-FROST: To move:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) that on 1 November, the Government's once-in-a-generation reforms to aged care began, giving more older Australians and their loved ones better access to a system that puts safe, high quality and dignified care at its core; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the <inline font-style="italic">Aged Care Act 2024</inline> and related reforms deliver a range of improvements to ensure older people and their needs are at the centre of the new aged care system including:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) strengthened aged care quality standards;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) a statement of rights;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iii) a new model for supported decision-making; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iv) introducing the Support at Home program to help older Australians remain in their homes for longer; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) acknowledges that the commencement of the <inline font-style="italic">Aged Care Act 2024</inline> is the next step in the Government's aged care reforms, which has already included:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the introduction of star ratings;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) more direct care for over 250,000 older people in aged care homes;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) 24-hours, seven days a week nursing in aged care homes;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) higher wages for aged care workers;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(e) a new single assessment system; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(f) more transparency on provider finances and operations.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 28 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">30 minutes.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Ms Miller-Frost</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Other Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 6 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration of this matter should </inline> <inline font-style="italic">continue on</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> a future day.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">3 MR TEHAN: To move:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) condemns the Government for its failures regarding energy affordability and policy transparency; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) Australians were promised a $275 cut to their power bills but under the Government households are instead paying on average $1,300 more;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) energy bills have already surged close to 40 per cent under the Government;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) the Government has broken its most basic promise to the Australian people; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) the Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water advised the Minister for Climate Change and Energy within the Incoming Government Brief of 'a further significant increase in retail electricity prices next financial year'.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 28 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">35 minutes.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Mr Tehan</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Other Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 7 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration of this matter should </inline> <inline font-style="italic">continue on</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> a future day.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">4 MR BURNELL: To move:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) acknowledges the Prime Minister's successful visit to Washington DC, during which the United States-Australia Framework for Securing the Supply of Critical Minerals and Rare Earths was signed with the President of the United States, a landmark bilateral framework on critical minerals and rare earths;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) notes that the agreement will:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) assist both countries in achieving resilience and security of critical minerals and rare earth supply chains;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) support Australian jobs in the mining, separation, and processing of these minerals through the use of economic policy tools and coordinated investment; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) support defence and other advanced technologies; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(3) recognises that this agreement:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) represents a further strengthening of the enduring Australia-United States alliance and a significant milestone in the long-standing friendship and cooperation between the two nations; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) is delivering on the Government's Future Made in Australia agenda by driving investment in new export industries and providing good jobs in regional Australia.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 28 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">30 minutes.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Mr Burnell</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Other Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 6 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration of this matter should </inline> <inline font-style="italic">continue on</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> a future day.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">5 MR T WILSON: To move:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) condemns the Government's handling of corruption allegations within the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU), acknowledging that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations continues to endorse its solution despite whistleblowers saying corruption is worse than it was before the appointment of the CFMEU Administrator;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations refuses to answer questions about new allegations of corruption since the Government put the CFMEU into administration;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) organisers were promoted into senior roles by the Administrator and subsequently sacked on allegations of accepting cartel kickbacks and corruption since the administration has been in place;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) meetings have been tolerated with known organised crime figures and meetings have seemingly been green lighted with violent misogynists since the administration has been in place;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(e) there are allegations of bribes and cartel kickbacks being paid with the knowledge and possible sanction of the administration;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(f) the union leader, backed by the Government to reform the CFMEU, Zach Smith, directed a subordinate to secretly meet with a 'notorious construction industry fixer' and Melbourne 'underworld identity' Mick Gatto;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(g) despite claiming meetings between CFMEU officials and Mr Gatto could lead to up to two years in prison, the Administrator only issued a caution once it was revealed this meeting was made public;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(h) the union leader backed by the Government to reform the CFMEU, Zach Smith, has been having coffee and card catch ups with John Setka whose conduct was the basis for the appointment of the Administrator in the first place;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) the Administrator has seemingly sanctioned meetings between Mr Smith and Mr Setka and they continue to this day;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(j) the Prime Minister relies on Mr Smith's vote in meetings of the National Executive of the Australian Labor Party with other ministers; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(k) the current Government's failure to take tough action is tainted by its acceptance of $7 million in donations from the CFMEU, and informs why it is backing the Administration even though whistleblowers are saying it is failing; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the Government is not taking the action needed to stop the corruption and cartel kickbacks that led the CFMEU to be put under administration because of its conflicts of interest;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) allowing the criminal and corrupt CFMEU to run rampant across residential, commercial and public projects, is pushing up costs to taxpayers and inflation, and is pushing up the cost of first homes by up to 30 per cent; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) leaked advice from the Department of the Treasury states the Government will fail to reach the National Housing Accord target of 1.2 million homes by 2029 because it is putting the CFMEU ahead of first home buyers.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 28 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">remaining private Members' business time prior to 1.30 pm.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Mr T Wilson</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Other Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 8 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration of this matter should </inline> <inline font-style="italic">continue on</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> a future day.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Items for Federation Chamber (4.45 pm to 7.30 pm)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Notices — continued</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">6 DR WEBSTER: To move:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) condemns the Government's lack of transparency in its proposal to slash default regional road speed limits from 100 kilometres per hour to as low as 70 kilometres per hour, including its attempt to quietly progress the policy without proper public scrutiny;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) notes that the Government was forced, at the eleventh hour, to extend its abysmally short 28-day consultation period only after strong intervention from the Opposition;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(3) warns that the Government's proposal is a lazy, damaging approach that will slow regional Australia to a crawl, and drive up freight times and costs for farmers, transport operators and small businesses;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(4) highlights that instead of fixing the roads by funding maintenance for line-marking, road shoulders, rumble strips and pothole repairs, the Government is cutting the Local Roads and Community Infrastructure program from 1 July next year; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(5) calls on the Government to commit to consultation and genuine road safety improvements that protect lives without crippling regional productivity and national supply chains.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 28 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">40 minutes.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Dr Webster</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Other Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 8 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration of this matter should </inline> <inline font-style="italic">continue on</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> a future day.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">7 MR GREGG: To move:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) acknowledges that on 1 November, bulk billing incentives were expanded to all Australians, and a new incentive payment began for practices that bulk bill every patient; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) notes:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) that these policies will mean:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) nine out of ten general practitioner (GP) visits will be bulk-billed by 2030; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) the current number of fully bulk-billed practices will triple to around 4,800 nationally;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) other policies the Government has delivered to strengthen Medicare, such as:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) opening 90 Medicare Urgent Care Clinics across Australia, with 47 more on the way;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) tripling the bulk-billing incentive;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iii) opening 61 free Medicare Mental Health Centres;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iv) lowering the maximum cost of Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme listed medicines to $25 from 1 January 2026 and freezing the concession price at $7.70 until 2030; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(v) boosting funding for hospitals by $1.7 billion; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) that while the Government is expanding access to bulk billing, by contrast, the Leader of the Opposition as the Minister for Health:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) never increased Medicare rebates, the only health minister in Australian history not to do so;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) doubled down on the then Government's $50 billion cut to hospitals; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iii) continued the fight for the former Leader of the Opposition's GP tax.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 28 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">35 minutes.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Mr Gregg</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Other Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 7 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration</inline> <inline font-style="italic">of this matter should </inline> <inline font-style="italic">continue on</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> a future day.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">8 DR WEBSTER: To move:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the 3G telecommunications network was switched off on the Government's watch in 2024;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the interim report of the Senate inquiry into the shutdown made clear recommendations about the impending shutdown, recommending that the Government delay the shutdown until it was satisfied that 'the 4G network provides coverage equivalent to or better than the coverage provided by the licensee's 3G network';</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) the Government relied on the assurances of commercial operators to ensure equivalent mobile coverage after the shutdown but despite promises, regional Australians have been detrimentally affected and thousands of consumers have been left with worse, or no, coverage at all;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) furthermore, there have been reports of poor handling of consumer complaints about their loss of service post 3G shutdown; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(e) the Government has failed to take responsibility for the fallout of the 3G shutdown in regional Australia, and its response to the final report by the Senate into the shutdown was again lazy and noncommittal, failing to agree to any new actions; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) calls upon the Minister for Communications to take responsibility for the botched 3G shutdown and its impact on the connectivity of regional Australians by:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) providing transparency regarding the crowdsourcing component of the National Audit of Mobile Coverage and expanding it to include off-road areas (including on private land such as farming and grazing properties) to ensure an accurate picture of the impact of the shutdown on mobile coverage is attained; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) thoroughly addressing the first recommendation of the final Senate inquiry report to 'establish a program to help customers that have lost mobile phone coverage since the 3G shutoff'.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 28 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">40 minutes.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Dr Webster</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Other Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 8 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration of this matter should </inline> <inline font-style="italic">continue on</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> a future day.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">9 MS STANLEY: To move:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes that 11 November 2025 marks the 50th anniversary of the removal of the Government of Prime Minister Whitlam; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) acknowledges:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the work of Professor Jenny Hocking to ensure that the historical events that happened at that time are documented;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) that the reforms of Prime Minister Whitlam's Government modernised Australian society and its economy; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) the impact of Prime Minister Whitlam's policies continue to define Australia's political landscape.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 8 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">20 minutes.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Ms Stanley</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Other Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">5 minutes</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 4 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration of this matter should </inline> <inline font-style="italic">continue on</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> a future day.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Orders of the day</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">SIX MONTHS SINCE FEDERAL ELECTION: Resumption of debate on the motion of Mr Soon—That this House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) 3 November 2025 marks six months since the federal election; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the Government is delivering on the commitments it made to the Australian people by:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) strengthening Medicare;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) ensuring Australians earn more and keep more of what they earn;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iii) easing cost of living pressures; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iv) building a Future Made in Australia; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) acknowledges that while the Government is focused on building Australia's future, the Opposition is focused on themselves.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">(Notice given 28 October 2025.)</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Time allotted</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline> <inline font-style="italic">remaining private Members' business time prior to 7.30 pm.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Speech time limits</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">All Members</inline> <inline font-style="italic">—</inline>5<inline font-style="italic"> minutes each.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">[Minimum number of proposed Members speaking = 6 x 5 mins]</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">The Committee determined that consideration of this matter should </inline> <inline font-style="italic">continue on</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> a future day.</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">THE HON D. M. DICK MP</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Speaker of the House of Representatives</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">29 October 2025</para></quote>
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        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>9</page.no>
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          <title>Fair Work Amendment (Baby Priya's) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>9</page.no>
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            <title>Reference to Federation Chamber</title>
            <page.no>9</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:14</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms STANLEY</name>
    <name.id>265990</name.id>
    <electorate>Werriwa</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I declare that the Fair Work Amendment (Baby Priya's) Bill 2025 stands referred to the Federation Chamber.</para>
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          <title>Veterans' Affairs Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>9</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Veterans' Affairs Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No. 1) Bill 2025</span>
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            <title>First Reading</title>
            <page.no>9</page.no>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>9</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:15</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr KEOGH</name>
    <name.id>249147</name.id>
    <electorate>Burt</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this bill be now read a second time.</para></quote>
<para>I am pleased to introduce the Veterans' Affairs Legislation Amendment (Miscellaneous Measures No 1) Bill 2025.</para>
<para>This bill continues our government's response to the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide and our commitment to implementing a better and simpler veterans' entitlements system so that veterans and families can access the support they need and deserve, faster.</para>
<para>For too long the complexity of the veterans' entitlements system has been a source of frustration for veterans and families, with the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide's interim report finding this was a contributor to suicidality amongst our veteran community.</para>
<para>We worked with a range of stakeholders to develop the way forward. In February this year we passed the VETS act—the Veterans Entitlements Treatment and Support (Simplification and Harmonisation) Act.</para>
<para>That means that from the middle of 2026, all veteran claims will be assessed for compensation and rehabilitation under one single piece of legislation that will be simpler to use and faster to process—the new and improved Military Rehabilitation and Compensation Act 2004—the MRCA.</para>
<para>This is the most significant reform to how we support veterans in a century and means we'll be able to better provide the services and supports the veteran community needs, when they need them.</para>
<para>Since these reforms were passed, we have been preparing for this significant reform—making veterans aware of the changes to come, upskilling delegates within the department, training advocates and updating computer systems.</para>
<para>This bill proposes a number of minor technical amendments to this legislation to ensure the smooth implementation of these reforms and the transition from the previous complicated tri-act arrangement to the single ongoing act.</para>
<para>These amendments do not change the intent agreed to through the passage of the VETS act.</para>
<para>The bill will clarify the powers of the existing Military Rehabilitation and Compensation Commission and Repatriation Commission as they transition to a single Repatriation Commission.</para>
<para>The bill inserts new transitional provisions to allow the existing Military Rehabilitation and Compensation Commission to make instruments by prior to 1 July 2026, which will continue in effect after 1 July 2026, where it would be beneficial to support a smooth uninterrupted transition to a single act.</para>
<para>This includes instruments that will give effect to the presumptive liability rules that will assist the government and the Department of Veterans' Affairs to more flexibly respond to emerging conditions.</para>
<para>It would also include transition arrangements for the guide used for permanent impairment assessments, which contains much of the operational detail and calculations used to assess an individual veteran's claims when they transition to the MRCA.</para>
<para>The bill will also remove ambiguity in the legislation for veterans and families seeking review of a DVA decision and clarify the interpretation of eligibility for important funeral benefits, to ensure claims for funeral compensation are determined according to the act under which they are lodged, and the correct entitlements are available as quickly as possible.</para>
<para>The bill also strengthens the review rights for decisions made under the Safety, Rehabilitation and Compensation (Defence-related Claims) Act 1988 (DRCA), before the commencement of the new review pathway on 21 April 2025, and beyond that date.</para>
<para>While the VETS act amended the Military Rehabilitation and Compensation (Consequential and Transitional Provisions) Act 2004 to preserve the former section 62 review rights in relation to DRCA determinations made before 21 April 2025, this amendment will ensure a clear and unambiguous basis for these arrangements and reaffirm the primacy of the single review pathway.</para>
<para>These amendments together will clarify and make minor adjustments to the veterans legislation to align with the government's original policy intention to simplify and harmonise the veteran compensation system, making the most significant reform to how we support veterans in a century.</para>
<para>This will enable veterans and families to get the support they need and deserve, when they need it.</para>
<para>I commend the bill to the House.</para>
<para>Debate adjourned.</para>
</speech>
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          <title>VET Student Loans (Miscellaneous Measures) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>10</page.no>
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            <title>First Reading</title>
            <page.no>10</page.no>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>10</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:21</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr GILES</name>
    <name.id>243609</name.id>
    <electorate>Scullin</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this bill be now read a second time.</para></quote>
<para>Today, I introduce the VET Student Loans (Miscellaneous Measures) Bill 2025.</para>
<para>The bill ensures that VET Student Loans (VSL) providers were authorised to handle students' tax file numbers (TFNs) to administer the VET Student Loans program.</para>
<para>The VET Student Loans Act 2016 (VSL Act) governs both the eligibility criteria for students seeking a loan and the requirements that providers must meet, to participate in the program.</para>
<para>Students are required—under the VSL Act—to provide their tax file number (TFN) when submitting a loan application, as repayments are made through the tax system. The TFN is essential to ensure the student's loan application details align with their Australian Taxation Office account.</para>
<para>During a review of how VET student loans are administered, the Department of Employment and Workplace Relations identified that there was no clear role for VSL providers to handle tax file numbers under the VSL Act and stronger alignment between relevant IT systems and legislation was required.</para>
<para>We have taken action to fix this.</para>
<para>Since early 2025, the Department of Employment and Workplace Relations has implemented updates to the IT systems to mask VSL students' tax file numbers and automate the transfer of tax file numbers between the student interface and government systems. So now VSL providers no longer need to handle tax file numbers.</para>
<para>This bill includes a retrospective measure to authorise VSL providers' past handling of student tax file numbers (TFNs) for the purpose of administering loan applications and VET student loans.</para>
<para>It also authorises the Department of Employment and Workplace Relations' previous disclosure of tax file numbers to providers for the same purpose.</para>
<para>The measure applies to all current and former VSL providers and their officers who handled tax file numbers from 1 January 2017 to 30 September 2025. It also extends to other relevant parties, including the secretary of the department, the Commissioner of Taxation, and Commonwealth officers.</para>
<para>By clarifying the basis for these past practices, the bill ensures the VET Student Loans program remains both accessible to students and compliant—supporting confidence in the system and the delivery of quality vocational education.</para>
<para>Income contingent loans for vocational education and training (VET) students were first introduced in 2008, under the former VET FEE-HELP scheme.</para>
<para>That scheme operated under the Higher Education Support Act 2003, which allowed VET FEE-HELP and Higher Education Loan Program providers to handle students' tax file numbers (TFNs) for the purpose of administering loans.</para>
<para>In 2017, the VET FEE-HELP scheme was replaced by the VET Student Loans (VSL) program. While the VET Student Loans program operates under its own legislative framework—the VET Student Loans Act 2016—it continued to use the same IT systems platforms.</para>
<para>This bill is important because VET plays a huge role in building the skilled workforce Australia needs—now and into the future.</para>
<para>The VET Student Loans program makes vocational education and training more accessible to Australians by providing opportunities for students to undertake a VET course—diploma level and above— and defer the payment of tuition fees through an income contingent loan.</para>
<para>The program helps to address skills shortages across critical industries including engineering, occupational licensing trades like plumbing, carpentry and electrical work, and training and assessment.</para>
<para>There is no change to the way students apply for a VET student loan using the electronic Commonwealth assistance form (eCAF).</para>
<para>I confirm to the House that, since the VET Student Loans program commenced in 2017, there have been no student complaints related to the handling of tax file numbers (TFNs) for the purposes of administering the program.</para>
<para>Ensuring VET student loans are accessible and administered with integrity is critical to helping Australians gain the skills and qualifications to build our future, strengthen our workforce, and support long-term national prosperity.</para>
<para>Further details of the measure in the bill are set out in the explanatory memorandum.</para>
<para>I commend the bill to the House.</para>
<para>Debate adjourned.</para>
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        <title>COMMITTEES</title>
        <page.no>11</page.no>
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          <title>Electoral Matters Joint Committee, Implementation of the National Redress Scheme—Joint Committee</title>
          <page.no>11</page.no>
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            <title>Membership</title>
            <page.no>11</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:25</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
    <electorate></electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I have received a message from the Senate informing the House that Senator Bell has been appointed a participating member of the following committees: the Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters for the purposes of the committee's inquiry into the 2025 election, and the Joint Standing Committee on Implementation of the National Redress Scheme.</para>
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    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>12</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
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          <title>Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Amendment (Board of Management Functions) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>12</page.no>
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            <title>Returned from Senate</title>
            <page.no>12</page.no>
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        <title>COMMITTEES</title>
        <page.no>12</page.no>
        <type>COMMITTEES</type>
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          <title>Environment and Communications References Committee</title>
          <page.no>12</page.no>
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            <title>Reference</title>
            <page.no>12</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:26</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
    <electorate></electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I have received a message from the Senate transmitting a resolution agreed to by the Senate referring the Optus triple 0 service outage of 18 September 2025 to the Senate Environment and Communications References Committee for inquiry and report by 11 February 2026.</para>
<para class="italic"> <inline font-style="italic">The message read as follows—</inline></para>
<quote><para class="block">That the following matter be referred to the Environment and Communications References Committee for inquiry and report by 11 February 2026:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Triple zero service outages, with particular reference to:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) the Optus triple zero service outage of 18 September 2025, including:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the cause of the outage including the performance of emergency 'camp-on' arrangements;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the role of the Minister for Communications (the minister) and the Australian Government in safeguarding the integrity, resilience and public confidence of the triple zero system;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) the impact on Optus customers including in relation to the tragic deaths of a number of people as a result of not being able to telephone triple zero for emergency assistance;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) the response by Optus, including compliance with legislative, regulatory and policy requirements, the implementation of any technical and operational changes and any support and compensation provided to impacted customers and their families;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(e) the timeline of events, including the notification to and the adequacy of the response by the Australian Government, the minister and the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA); and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(f) the role and responsibilities of Optus's parent company Singtel with respect to Optus's obligations to provide a telecommunications service on which Australians can depend;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) other recent outages affecting access to triple zero and the adequacy of the responses by the relevant entity, the minister, the Australian Government and ACMA;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(3) the frequency and management of triple zero outages including:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the role of the minister, ACMA and the Australian Government in ensuring reliable access to and public confidence in emergency telecommunications assistance, including in relation to the efficacy, reliability and enforcement of emergency camp-on arrangements;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) steps taken to maintain access to emergency and essential services during outages and to support impacted Australians;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) the adequacy of regulatory, legislative and policy frameworks governing Australians' access to emergency telecommunications assistance including whole-of-government responsibilities and co-ordination and the protection of vulnerable Australians; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) whether federal government oversight of critical telecommunications infrastructure is fit for purpose;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(4) the implementation of recommendations of the Australian Government Review into the Optus Outage of 8 November 2023 (Bean Review) and the September 2024 inquiry report by the Environment and Communications References Committee into the Optus network outage;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(5) the limitations on domestic mobile telecommunications customers accessing services offered by alternate carriers, known as mobile phone 'roaming', which is particularly an issue in times of emergency in regional communities where mobile coverage can be less reliable;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(6) the appropriateness of contracts between Optus and the Australian Government, particularly since the Optus network outage of November 2023; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(7) any other related matters.</para></quote>
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</subdebate.2></subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>MOTIONS</title>
        <page.no>12</page.no>
        <type>MOTIONS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Telecommunications</title>
          <page.no>12</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:26</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mrs McINTOSH</name>
    <name.id>281513</name.id>
    <electorate>Lindsay</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I seek leave to move the following motion:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That the House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the Senate has passed a motion to establish an inquiry, to be conducted by the Environment and Communications References Committee, on the triple zero outages of 18 September 2025, with the committee to report by 11 February 2026;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the Senate has requested that its resolution on this matter be communicated to the House;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) on 8 October 2025, the Government blocked a motion moved by the Member for Lindsay to establish a select committee to be known as a House Select Committee on the Triple Zero Ecosystem to inquire into and report on the health of the triple zero ecosystem;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) the Opposition expedited the passage of the Telecommunications Legislation Amendment (Triple Zero Custodian and Emergency Calling Powers) Bill 2025 through the House upon a motion first moved by the Opposition; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(e) the recommendations of the Australian Government review into the Optus outage of 8 November 2023 (the Bean Review) have still not been fully implemented by the Government; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) requires:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the Minister for Communications, as a House Minister, to fully cooperate with the inquiry and appear in person to outline in full her role in the serious outages that have occurred in the triple zero ecosystem; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) that the Minister provide transparency around the failure of the Government to ensure that the legal obligations of telecommunications providers to enable emergency services calls at all times are met.</para></quote>
<para>Leave not granted.</para>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mrs McINTOSH</name>
    <name.id>281513</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent the Member for Lindsay from moving the following motion immediately:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That the House:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) notes:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the Senate has passed a motion to establish an inquiry, to be conducted by the Environment and Communications References Committee, on the triple zero outages of 18 September 2025, with the committee to report by 11 February 2026;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the Senate has requested that its resolution on this matter be communicated to the House;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) on 8 October 2025, the Government blocked a motion moved by the Member for Lindsay to establish a select committee to be known as a House Select Committee on the Triple Zero Ecosystem to inquire into and report on the health of the triple zero ecosystem;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(d) the Opposition expedited the passage of the Telecommunications Legislation Amendment (Triple Zero Custodian and Emergency Calling Powers) Bill 2025 through the House upon a motion first moved by the Opposition; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(e) the recommendations of the Australian Government review into the Optus outage of 8 November 2023 (the Bean Review) have still not been fully implemented by the Government; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) requires:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the Minister for Communications, as a House Minister, to fully cooperate with the inquiry and appear in person to outline in full her role in the serious outages that have occurred in the triple zero ecosystem; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) that the Minister provide transparency around the failure of the Government to ensure that the legal obligations of telecommunications providers to enable emergency services calls at all times are met.</para></quote>
<para>Mr Speaker, people died when they couldn't call triple 0 during that Optus outage, and the Albanese Labor government has had multiple chances to come in here. We have moved amendments. We have suspended standing orders. We have reached out to the minister and offered our assistance in coming to a solution so that this never happens again. Yet the government and the Greens have teamed up to block increased penalties for telcos who do the wrong thing. We moved amendments three times. Three times the government had opportunities to increase those penalties from $10 million. We said it should be $40 million. They did a dirty deal with the Greens and now we're at $30 million. But we gave them that chance. This could have been done weeks and weeks ago.</para>
<para>Shame on the government for failing every Australian in this country and not holding telcos to account for their failures. The Albanese Labor government teamed up with the Greens and blocked each and every coalition amendment on the bill that would have forced those telcos to pay for their mistakes. They blocked the coalition's amendment for a public triple 0 outage register. They have, however, instructed ACMA to change the industry standard to require the telcos to publish this data, not publicly but on their own website—so, multiple telcos publishing their own outages. Do you think that's really going to happen?</para>
<para>These are the very telcos, like Optus, who failed to detect an outage for almost 13 hours and then failed abysmally at every turn to provide notifications of the outage to everyone. Every update that they provided to the minister, to her office, to the Department of Communications and to ACMA, the regulator, was wrong. How on Earth can Australians have their confidence in the triple 0 network restored when the Albanese Labor government is choosing to outsource this work right back to the very telcos that have failed to uphold it?</para>
<para>Even worse, the reporting mechanisms created by the triple 0 custodian bill are absolutely useless. The bill requires a report to be produced every six months by the new custodian and ACMA, but the reports won't be publicly available. People won't know what is in those reports. Both the coalition and Senator Payman called for this amendment in the other place, but the Albanese government and the Greens blocked both amendments. I, along with so many Australians, am disgusted at the actions of the Albanese government on this matter of protecting Australians.</para>
<para>Yesterday the Senate supported the establishment of a Senate inquiry into the absolutely catastrophic Optus outage that occurred in September. I moved a motion in this place three weeks ago that would have established a House inquiry that could have already been underway. Parliament has now wasted three weeks in getting on with the job. Those on the other side of the chamber chose to block that inquiry, despite its being supported by the coalition and the full crossbench. This is despite the Standing Committee on Communications, the Arts and Sport having absolutely nothing to do, as was revealed in the <inline font-style="italic">Sydney Morning Herald</inline> on Saturday.</para>
<para>Rather than have common sense prevail and put the safety and wellbeing of all Australians first, this arrogant and transparency-phobic Albanese government have tried to dodge a bullet, but they've failed. The Senate inquiry established will use all its powers to interrogate not just Optus but also the Department of Communications, the Australian Communications and Media Authority, and any other relevant and involved stakeholder.</para>
<para>Relevant stakeholders, I will point out, include the Minister for Communications. I expect that a request for the minister to attend a committee hearing will arrive very soon. I don't have to use any psychic abilities to foreshadow what will happen; I can guess that the minister won't be available. I think that's a pretty strong prediction. There will be some sporting event or international travel commitment that will prevent her from attending. They love scrutiny on that side of the House, which leads me to the Telecommunications Legislation Amendment (Triple Zero Custodian and Emergency Calling Powers) Bill 2025. You can duck and you can weave and you can stack the numbers in this place all you like. You can't dodge the Senate inquiry on this matter. I've no doubt that the government will try.</para>
<para>Just the other day, there were media reports on yet another triple 0 outage in Gippsland, Victoria. According to the ABC, a 70-year-old retired nurse discovered the triple 0 network outage after she attempted to call an ambulance when she had a fall. Her call, just like more than 600 calls back in September, failed to connect. Optus have advised my office that this outage was due to a site upgrade in the area. But what concerns me is the apparent lack of communication to the community that services may be impacted. People didn't know. In the current environment, after so many catastrophic failures, failures that have cost Australia, communication outages, planned or unplanned, should be at the forefront of every telco's mind.</para>
<para>When it comes to the Senate inquiry, it needs to be about the full ecosystem. The inquiry needs to ask the question: how can a telco receive millions of dollars in government contracts at the same time as potentially having to pay millions of dollars in fines for letting down Australians? That just doesn't stack up. Every single Australian will be asking how they can get away with that. The inquiry needs to look at every single telco and what they do to ensure the safety of Australians.</para>
<para>It is unconscionable that a human error within a telco could cause a complete failure where hundreds of people could not call our most essential triple 0 service. How can a process error cause such disaster? What is happening within these companies? Where is the accountability? How can ACMA, the regulator, be the investigator in this matter when they are caught up in the failed process? ACMA knew about the outage on the Thursday. By law, Optus had to alert them. Yet, the minister didn't know about the outage until the Friday. Multiple emails went to ACMA and to the Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development, Communications, Sport and the Arts, yet the minister didn't know. How can ACMA investigate itself? There needs to be a thorough independent investigation, which is what we on this side, the coalition, have been calling for all along.</para>
<para>More communication, not less, is required to ensure that every Australian is informed and can take appropriate steps to protect themselves. More needs to be done. What will it take for the Albanese Labor government and telcos to take this seriously and put the needs of all Australians first, protecting the triple 0 network from these outages? There is nothing more important, no other higher priority, for a government than to protect its own citizens.</para>
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<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Is the motion seconded?</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:38</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr WEBSTER</name>
    <name.id>281688</name.id>
    <electorate>Mallee</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I second the motion. There are serious questions to be answered about the triple 0 outages on this government's watch, and, if the minister and government are adamant that they did nothing wrong, why not bring the Australian public into their confidence and share, through a proper and transparent inquiry, what they knew and when they knew it? The government has commissioned ACMA to stage an inquiry, but, as ACMA is part of the failed system, how can it be held to account if it is running the inquiry? Independence is the key here. ACMA's inquiry is not independent.</para>
<para>We must remember the gravity of the issue at hand. We're talking about the loss of lives—four lives lost. Shirking responsibility is not an option. The Australian people deserve to understand what went on, how the system failed and how it will be rectified to ensure this does not happen again in the future. The minister, the department and ACMA must all transparently explain, at an independent inquiry, when they were first alerted to an issue with the triple 0 connectivity and what actions they took. Serious questions remain about welfare checks and whether they were quick and comprehensive enough to identify the full scope of the problem early enough. Did the minister act appropriately in leaving ACMA to investigate, rather than herself swiftly acting on 18 September?</para>
<para>It simply is not good enough to hide behind Optus's indication about the scope of the outage, which, it turns out, significantly understated the problem. The key issue is notification of the problem, not the estimate of the scale of the problem. If someone reports a fire on their property and tells the responsible authority, 'It's okay; it's only a small fire,' do the authorities take that on trust and adopt a small-scale response, or do they deploy all available local resources to make their own threat assessment and prevent it becoming a disaster?</para>
<para>It is imperative that clear processes exist to ensure triple 0 outages are managed swiftly. There must also be resilience in the system to ensure it does not rely on a single point of failure—for example, a telecommunication company's incorrect estimation of the size of an outage. Triple 0 is the service that underpins all emergency service responses, and Australians need to have absolute confidence it is working. This is not the first outage on this government's watch but the second. And remember: this government sat on a recommendation to legislate a triple 0 watchdog, as per the Bean review, for 12 long months.</para>
<para>They also failed to adequately protect Australians from negative outcomes as a result of the 3G network shutdown, which occurred one year ago yesterday. We do not yet know the full scale of the fallout of that shutdown, with reports in the last week of the discovery of certain models of Samsung phones, which do not currently have triple 0 connectivity as a result of the 3G shutdown.</para>
<para>Regional Australians are acutely aware of how their mobile connectivity has deteriorated since telcos chose to turn off 3G on this government's watch. Many have been left with reduced or no connectivity as a result. No connectivity means no net zero—sorry, no triple 0, full stop. That was a very, very—</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Conaghan</name>
    <name.id>279991</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>It was on the mind.</para>
</interjection>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Dr WEBSTER</name>
    <name.id>281688</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Yes, it is on the mind. Luck will not fix this Labor government's problem with transparency, timely action and responsibility. Australians want to know that when they call triple 0 they will connect; they want to know that the government understands their experience and will act to improve connectivity in the regions; and they want the minister for communications to take responsibility and take action to ensure this is the case. She needs to turn up to the Senate inquiry that will take place.</para>
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</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:43</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms ROWLAND</name>
    <name.id>159771</name.id>
    <electorate>Greenway</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That the debate be adjourned.</para></quote>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The question is that the debate be adjourned.</para>
<para> </para>
</interjection>
</speech>
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              <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [09:47]<br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick)</p>
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            <ayes>
              <num.votes>87</num.votes>
              <title>AYES</title>
              <names>
                <name>Abdo, B. J.</name>
                <name>Aly, A.</name>
                <name>Ambihaipahar, A.</name>
                <name>Belyea, J. A.</name>
                <name>Berry, C. G.</name>
                <name>Bowen, C. E.</name>
                <name>Briskey, J. L.</name>
                <name>Burke, A. S.</name>
                <name>Burnell, M. P.</name>
                <name>Burns, J.</name>
                <name>Butler, M. C.</name>
                <name>Byrnes, A. J.</name>
                <name>Campbell, J. P.</name>
                <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
                <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                <name>Clare, J. D.</name>
                <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
                <name>Clutterham, C. L.</name>
                <name>Coffey, R. K.</name>
                <name>Coker, E. A.</name>
                <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                <name>Comer, E. L.</name>
                <name>Conroy, P. M.</name>
                <name>Cook, K. M. G.</name>
                <name>Cook, P. A.</name>
                <name>Doyle, M. J. J.</name>
                <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                <name>France, A. A.</name>
                <name>Freelander, M. R.</name>
                <name>French, T. A.</name>
                <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                <name>Georganas, S.</name>
                <name>Giles, A. J.</name>
                <name>Gorman, P. P.</name>
                <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
                <name>Gregg, M. J.</name>
                <name>Hill, J. C.</name>
                <name>Holzberger, R. A. V.</name>
                <name>Jarrett, M. L.</name>
                <name>Jordan-Baird, M. A. M.</name>
                <name>Kearney, G. M.</name>
                <name>Keogh, M. J.</name>
                <name>Khalil, P.</name>
                <name>King, C. F.</name>
                <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                <name>Lim, S. B. C.</name>
                <name>Marles, R. D.</name>
                <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
                <name>McBain, K. L.</name>
                <name>McBride, E. M.</name>
                <name>Miller-Frost, L. J.</name>
                <name>Mitchell, R. G.</name>
                <name>Moncrieff, D. S.</name>
                <name>Mulino, D.</name>
                <name>Neumann, S. K.</name>
                <name>Ng, G. J.</name>
                <name>O'Neil, C. E.</name>
                <name>Phillips, F. E.</name>
                <name>Plibersek, T. J.</name>
                <name>Rae, S. T.</name>
                <name>Reid, G. J.</name>
                <name>Repacholi, D. P.</name>
                <name>Rishworth, A. L.</name>
                <name>Roberts, T. G.</name>
                <name>Rowland, M. A.</name>
                <name>Ryan, J. C.</name>
                <name>Scrymgour, M. R.</name>
                <name>Sitou, S.</name>
                <name>Smith, D. P. B. (Teller)</name>
                <name>Smith, M. J. H.</name>
                <name>Soon, X.</name>
                <name>Stanley, A. M. (Teller)</name>
                <name>Teesdale, J. A.</name>
                <name>Templeman, S. R.</name>
                <name>Thistlethwaite, M. J.</name>
                <name>Thwaites, K. L.</name>
                <name>Urquhart, A. E.</name>
                <name>Watts, T. G.</name>
                <name>Wells, A. S.</name>
                <name>White, R. P.</name>
                <name>Wilson, J. H.</name>
                <name>Witty, S. J.</name>
                <name>Zappia, A.</name>
              </names>
            </ayes>
            <noes>
              <num.votes>46</num.votes>
              <title>NOES</title>
              <names>
                <name>Aldred, M. R.</name>
                <name>Batt, D. J.</name>
                <name>Bell, A. M.</name>
                <name>Birrell, S. J.</name>
                <name>Boele, N.</name>
                <name>Boyce, C. E.</name>
                <name>Buchholz, S.</name>
                <name>Caldwell, C. M.</name>
                <name>Chaffey, J. L.</name>
                <name>Chaney, K. E.</name>
                <name>Chester, D. J.</name>
                <name>Conaghan, P. J.</name>
                <name>Gee, A. R.</name>
                <name>Haines, H. M.</name>
                <name>Hamilton, G. R.</name>
                <name>Hastie, A. W.</name>
                <name>Hawke, A. G.</name>
                <name>Joyce, B. T. G.</name>
                <name>Kennedy, S. P.</name>
                <name>Landry, M. L. (Teller)</name>
                <name>Le, D. T.</name>
                <name>Leeser, J.</name>
                <name>McCormack, M. F.</name>
                <name>McIntosh, M. I.</name>
                <name>McKenzie, Z. A.</name>
                <name>O'Brien, L. S.</name>
                <name>Pasin, A.</name>
                <name>Penfold, A. L.</name>
                <name>Pike, H. J. (Teller)</name>
                <name>Price, M. L.</name>
                <name>Rebello, L. S.</name>
                <name>Ryan, M. M.</name>
                <name>Scamps, S. A.</name>
                <name>Small, B. J.</name>
                <name>Steggall, Z.</name>
                <name>Taylor, A. J.</name>
                <name>Thompson, P.</name>
                <name>Venning, T. H.</name>
                <name>Violi, A. A.</name>
                <name>Webster, A. E.</name>
                <name>Wilkie, A. D.</name>
                <name>Willcox, A. J.</name>
                <name>Wilson, R. J.</name>
                <name>Wilson, T. R.</name>
                <name>Wood, J. P.</name>
                <name>Young, T. J.</name>
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            <pairs>
              <num.votes>0</num.votes>
              <title>PAIRS</title>
              <names />
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            <body>
              <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed to.<br />Debate adjourned.</p>
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    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>16</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Defence Amendment (Parliamentary Joint Committee on Defence) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>16</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Defence Amendment (Parliamentary Joint Committee on Defence) Bill 2025</span>
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        </subdebate.text><subdebate.2><subdebateinfo>
            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>16</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:53</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TAYLOR</name>
    <name.id>231027</name.id>
    <electorate>Hume</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to speak on the Defence Amendment (Parliamentary Joint Committee on Defence) Bill 2025 and move the amendment circulated in my name:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">"whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House notes that:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) Australia faces the most challenging strategic environment since World War II, increasing the importance of bipartisan support for our ADF and strategic priorities;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) AUKUS represents a generational opportunity to:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) transform Australia's defence capability and industries;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) create highly skilled jobs; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) deepen investment links between Australia and our security partners;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(3) the scope of Australia's strategic challenges will require increased defence spending over the next decade;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(4) membership of this committee should be predicated on support of higher spending on defence, a recognition of the threat environment, and support for the success of AUKUS;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(5) this bill has been modelled on the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security, which has operated consistently and successfully scrutinised Australia's intelligence community on a bipartisan basis for decades with membership exclusively composed of the Opposition and Government parties of the day; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(6) any breaching of similar appointment conventions would represent a serious departure and politicisation of our defence force at a time of increasing danger for our region".</para></quote>
<para>This is an important piece of legislation, not just for what it seeks to achieve but how it stands to be implemented. Australia faces the most dangerous set of circumstances since the Second World War, a fact that mas made clear in the government's own Defence Strategic Review but also confirmed recently by Defence officials at estimates. We see increasing cooperation between an axis of dictatorships, theocratic states, that seek to upend the world order and reshape the institutions and principles that have delivered an era of great peace, prosperity and liberty to billions around the globe.</para>
<para>The war against the West that commenced during the early 2000s has spread from one led by non-state actors to one championed by dictatorships. Every day, Australians read and watch with sadness the great human cost of conflict in Europe and the Middle East. As defence officials made clear to Senate estimates, Australia is not immune to these conflicts. Whether it's the foreign interference of Iran launching attacks on Australia's Jewish community or the cyberattacks of the Chinese Communist Party highlighted in ASD's latest threat assessment—and, let's be clear, it's been attributed; it is very clear that the Chinese Communist Party was involved in those cyberattacks—or the startling revelations about the importation of sanctioned Russian oil, Australia cannot ignore the realities of a more dangerous world or the new reality of modern strategic competition around the world, where nations seek to achieve their strategic ambitions without firing a bullet.</para>
<para>Whether it's the unacceptable and unprofessional conduct of the People's Liberation Army aircraft against our Australian surveillance fleet in the South China Sea or the photographs of former premiers on stage in the family photos with many of the dictators responsible for this global instability and these global threats, the message is clear: these choices and these threats are on our doorstep. We face increasing trade-offs between the liberal and positive impulse to trade—the impulse for free markets and for faith in international order—and our security interests. In short, prosperity and security have never been so interlinked. They've always been interlinked.</para>
<para>Prosperity and security go hand in hand, and we forget that, having gone through such an extraordinary era since the end of the Cold War, which was so pivotal in shaping my views of the world. After the Cold War came to an end, we came to believe that prosperity and security automatically happened. It was just part of a new world where the international rule of law was upheld and managed, but the truth is that we are facing real threats to that right now, which is why it has never been so important that we invest more in our Defence Force. It has never been so important, given that there needs to be more funding. There must be more funding, and there must be, and there are, more demands on our Defence Force than has been the case in the past. It's incredibly important that, in that context, we have clear and strong parliamentary oversight of how that money is being spent.</para>
<para>While building consensus around Australia's strategic priorities, the coalition has long supported the establishment of a parliamentary joint committee on defence, but it must be implemented in a way that strengthens bipartisanship, not politicises it. Defence is not a political plaything. It demands continuity, consensus and competence, and the test of this bill is whether it will build that or undermine it. The government has said that this committee will mirror the successful model of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security. That is the right model, but only if the same conventions are upheld as have been upheld in the case of that very successful Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security.</para>
<para>For two decades, PJCIS has earned the confidence of Australia's security community precisely because it has remained bipartisan and disciplined. Its membership has typically been drawn exclusively from the government and the opposition parties of the day. Any breach of that precedent—any decision to appoint Greens or Independents to a classified defence committee—would be serious and dangerous. It would risk politicisation of our national security architecture. It risks weakening trust with our allies, which is more important than it has been for a long, long time. It would risk jeopardising the handling of classified information and send exactly the wrong message to those who seek to test Australia's resolve and the resolve of our alliances, which are absolutely central to that interlinked prosperity and security I talked about a moment ago.</para>
<para>That's why the amendment I move today lays down a simple but very clear principle: that membership of the committee should be predicated on support for defence spending—indeed, there should be higher defence spending—and a recognition of the threat environment we face. It should also be predicated on an unequivocal commitment to AUKUS. This is not a committee that should question whether AUKUS should exist; it's a committee that should ensure every dollar being spent on AUKUS and the rest of the ADF is a dollar well spent, in getting to the strength that we need to ensure that the deterrence that is so central to the peace and prosperity we all want to see occurs.</para>
<para>It is very clear that this proposal we're talking about today stands on the shoulders of three great advocates for parliamentary oversight and defence reform. The late senator Jim Molan was a close friend of mine, a good man and a man who stood up for the strength of our great nation. Right to his last, he was writing and talking about the importance of ensuring that we have a national security strategy for this nation, and he strongly advocated for a parliamentary committee that ensured we had accountability for our ADF—the ADF he was part of for many years, of course, and he felt very strongly that it needed to be fully accountable. Former senator Linda Reynolds was a strong advocate for ensuring we had a committee of this nature, and former senator David Fawcett—again, a good man and a great contributor to defence policy in this country—carried the torch on this issue, demonstrating tireless commitment to policy contestability, capability delivery and industrial reform, ensuring we have sovereign capability in this nation, and he continues to argue the case about this. He worked across the aisle to build support for this committee, ensuring it would reflect the success of PJCIS while being tailored to defence. Both Jim Molan and David Fawcett made immense contributions to strengthening Australia's strategic culture and to bringing realism, accountability and unity to defence policy across this parliament. Their legacy and Linda's legacy should guide how this committee operates—not as a political forum but as a disciplined, trusted body that strengthens defence through insight and commitment, not ideology.</para>
<para>The Prime Minister will now face the same test that has confronted every prime minister since the Howard government first legislated the Intelligence Services Act 2001. The law hasn't changed. Almost every prime minister since John Howard, Labor and coalition, has respected the convention that membership of these committees should be limited to the government and opposition parties of the day—the parties of government. The Prime Minister does not need new legislation to appoint crossbenchers; he has the power to do so now. But whether he chooses to exercise it will speak volumes about his character and his judgement. If he honours the conventions that have served our nation well, he will demonstrate respect for our Defence Force and for the bipartisanship that keeps us strong. If he breaks those conventions, he will politicise the very institution that keeps Australians safe and, in doing so, betray his own defence minister's assurance that this committee will remain composed of an appropriate group of people who support the Defence Force and, importantly at this time, AUKUS.</para>
<para>As I said, the Australian government's own Defence Strategic Review recognised the deteriorating strategic environment we face. We are seeing unsafe intercepts of Australian aircraft, cyberattacks on our institutions, and foreign interference of increasing magnitude and regularity in our communities. The ADF is being asked to do more with less while recruitment falls and capability timelines stretch further out into the distance. That's why bipartisan oversight must go hand in hand with bipartisan resolve, including higher defence investment each year.</para>
<para>Australia must move from rhetoric, and we've heard a lot of rhetoric. We always hear a lot of rhetoric from those opposite, and that in itself might be okay, but it's got to be rhetoric accompanied by readiness and reality. The committee established by this bill, properly constituted, can play a constructive role in that task. It can improve contestability of ideas, strengthen the parliament's understanding of classified issues and give Australians greater confidence that both sides of politics are united in securing this nation's defence. But the committee is not a substitute for delivery. Accountability and transparency must not be an excuse for delay. We can't afford capability gaps. We can't afford a paper ADF, as ASPI has put it. This is the risk. In the new world of geopolitics—a world which resembles worlds we've seen in the past; there's a realism about what we are seeing around the globe right now—deterrence is only achievable through strength. We have dictators in the world today who show no respect for the international rule of law. They couldn't care less. The only message they understand, the only thing they understand, is strength. Strength is the key to deterrence, and that's why—putting aside conflict itself—a paper ADF is completely unacceptable if we want stability and prosperity.</para>
<para>If the government is serious about bipartisanship—and I certainly hope it is—it will honour the conventions that have protected our intelligence and security institutions for more than 20 years and ensure this committee's membership is confined to those who believe in defending Australia, who support AUKUS and who back the investment needed to make our Defence Force ready, resilient and respected not just within Australia but across the globe. This is the spirit in which the coalition approaches this bill. We are strong supporters of this committee, and we will not oppose this bill's passage through the House, but we will hold the government to the standard it has promised and the standard that Australians expect. This committee must be built on clarity, strength and unity of purpose.</para>
<para>I'll finish with a couple of comments about our broader view on defence policy, which will be reflected in the way we approach this committee. We have begun outlining our priorities for defence. Our priorities are focused on results and reality, not just rhetoric. Part of what is required there is to get defence spending to three per cent of GDP, not because anyone else has asked us to do it but because it's the right thing for us. It's right thing for this nation. We have seen multiple experts tell us that, in order to implement the recommendations of the government's own strategic review, it is necessary to lift spending to three per cent of GDP—with real money, not with accounting tricks or creative accounting. That's not how you do it. We need to see a real commitment to getting to three per cent of GDP. In the absence of that, what we are hearing and seeing is that the funding necessary for AUKUS is being taken from the rest of the Defence Force, which is being completely cannibalised. In fact, both are underfunded. AUKUS is underfunded and the rest of the Defence Force is underfunded, and we're going to continue to see that. One of the areas we'll see that in is sustainment, where it's clear there is a serious underfunding of sustainment of equipment across the Defence Force.</para>
<para>We're going to continue to see some of the results of that. We saw that recently with the LHDs. The report from the ANAO has made that very clear. But we're going to continue to see it in other areas as well, and I think that will continue to have an impact on the morale of our Defence Force and the ability to attract, retain, excite and motivate people in our Defence Force. We have great people, incredible people, in our Defence Force. I meet them every day and I am so privileged to see and meet these incredible people who are motivated by not just their own interests but, more importantly, the interests of this great nation. Every single day they get up to serve our nation in uniform, and we should be very proud of these people. But we've got to make sure they have what they need to get their job done.</para>
<para>Within that our priorities are clear. We have to move from rhetoric to readiness, and stand on our own two feet. We have to have sovereign capability in critical areas—sovereign missile manufacturing, for instance. We've seen a lot of false starts on that over the last little while with GWEO. We need to make sure that that sovereign manufacturing is going into place to support our Defence Force. There's no point in having critical inputs that we need in a conflict coming across the ocean over long periods of time with the risk of blockades. You've got to have the most critical items here in this country.</para>
<para>We need to make agility a strategic asset. What we've seen in Ukraine—and I saw it just last week in the Middle East—is a need for rapid innovation in defence capability, because the world is innovating at a pace that I haven't seen in a long, long while, with drone technology and missile technology, electronic warfare, space—all of this is now intersecting in ways we could never have imagined even a few short years ago. The Ukraine conflict has really brought this home. This is a fundamentally different-looking conflict to conflicts we've seen in the past, because technology has changed. With it, agility becomes an asset in itself. If you do not have agility in this modern world of warfare you do not have strength. You will be outdone every single time by more agile adversaries. It's a real challenge for a big organisation to show the sort of agility that small organisations are usually responsible for, but that's what we have to be able to do.</para>
<para>And we have to put people at the centre of national security. It is great people who are responsible for agility, for readiness, for standing on our own two feet. As I said, we have great people in our Defence Force, but we've got to make sure that we have the right mix of people. The government has fallen seriously short of its own targets in terms of recruitment and retention, and that is really showing in our Defence Force.</para>
<para>These are not slogans. Readiness is not a slogan. Sovereignty is not a slogan, nor is agility. These are things that we must have if we are to be in the position we need to be in, in a world, as I said, where we face greater strategic dangers than we have faced for a long time. These principles are the foundation of a Defence Force ready to deter aggression, defend our sovereignty and uphold the peace that generations before us fought to secure. I commend this bill and this amendment to the House.</para>
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    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>F2S</name.id>
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  <para>Is the amendment seconded?</para>
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    <name role="metadata">Mr Conaghan</name>
    <name.id>279991</name.id>
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  <para>I second the amendment and reserve my right to speak.</para>
<para>Debate adjourned.</para>
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          <title>Corporations (Review Fees) Amendment (Technical Amendments) Bill 2025</title>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>19</page.no>
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    <name role="metadata">Mr CONAGHAN</name>
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    <electorate>Cowper</electorate>
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  <para>I rise to speak on the Corporations (Review Fees) Amendment (Technical Amendments) Bill 2025. This is a remarkable piece of legislation and not for the good reasons. What we have before us today is a bill that seeks to retroactively validate more than a decade's worth of unlawful fees collected by ASIC because of a mistake made under Labor back in 2011. This is no small administrative oversight; it is a drafting error of at least $150 million that sat hidden in law for 14 years. And now Labor is seeking parliamentary approval to make it all go away by passing the biggest retrospective tax validation in Australia's history.</para>
<para>Let's step through how we got here. In 2011, under the Gillard Labor government, the parliament introduced legislation that impacted indexation of ASIC company review fees. But it turns out the legislation was botched. That mistake meant that, since 2011, legally, indexation was improperly applied to a variety of ASIC review fees, including late payment fees, the 10-year prepayment fee and the special-purpose company fee for charities and not-for-profits. That means that, each year, ASIC published the index amount, charged them and collected the revenue from millions of Australian companies without a proper legal basis to do so. It wasn't until late 2024, during an internal ASIC legal audit, that the error was finally discovered. Fourteen years after Labor's regulation took effect, ASIC realised it had been charging the wrong amounts all along.</para>
<para>While this was a drafting mistake, and we accept mistakes can happen, the scale of this mistake is breathtaking. More than 1.5 million registered companies have paid the affected fees. Another 800,000 deregistered entities were charged. And nearly half a million more were invoiced but hadn't yet paid. All told, somewhere between $150 million and $200 million has been over-collected due to the indexation that wasn't legally valid. This is an extraordinary fix to ask the parliament to agree to, and it deserves proper scrutiny. ASIC collects around $1.8 billion in fees and levies every year, including over a billion dollars in registry fees from Australian businesses, from small family companies to farmers and not-for-profits. It is a regulator that is notoriously tough on small business. It routinely cancels companies' registrations for late payments, it imposes penalties too often on low-hanging fruit and self reported mistakes, and it holds businesses to the absolute letter of the law. Yet, here we are. Due to a technical error, ASIC itself has technically incorrectly applied the law for 14 years, charging unlawful fees, and is now asking the parliament to fix the mess.</para>
<para>Small businesses that are a week late on a $310 annual review fee can get deregistered, but ASIC has gotten the law wrong for 14 years, overcharging a minimum of $150 million. We appreciate that ASIC found this error themselves, but we should have a higher expectation of our own regulator. The government introduced new regulations in March this year to correct the problem going forward, and that's fair enough. It's a good step. But this bill goes further. It retrospectively validates every fee charge since 1 July 2011. In other words, it rewrites history. It makes what were technically illegal charges legal after the fact. That is not something the parliament should ever take lightly.</para>
<para>The coalition generally oppose retrospective legislation, particularly retrospective taxation. It undermines confidence in the rule of law and sets a dangerous precedent. However, we are conscious that, without a fix, we could see a $150 million budget black hole that could be patched only by higher taxes. We don't want to see taxpayers forced to pay for Labor's mistakes, but it is something that needs to be properly scrutinised. That's exactly why this bill needs to go to the Senate Economics Legislation Committee. We are talking about more than a decade of unlawful fees charged by the corporate regulator itself, an agency that too often demands absolute precision from others.</para>
<para>Before this parliament agrees to validate these fees, there are serious questions that must be answered. How did this happen? Why wasn't it detected by ASIC, Treasury or Finance much earlier? And should any of the businesses that have been harassed about these fees get some leniency about this blunder? Australians have a right to expect that regulators are held to the same standards they impose on everybody else. ASIC's heavy-handed approach to enforcement has been a longstanding concern across the business community. We've heard it from farmers, tradies and family trusts that have been hit with late fees and penalties when they were doing their best to comply. Yet ASIC, which lectures others about compliance in corporate conduct, has itself been collecting unlawful fees.</para>
<para>That is why we will move to refer this bill to the Senate Economics Committee for full and proper scrutiny, because this parliament should not be rushed into rubberstamping a retrospective law that excuses 14 years of misapplied fees without knowing exactly how it happened and who was responsible. The Senate committee process will allow businesses, accountants, company directors and legal experts to have their say. It will shine a light on how such a serious error went undetected for so long and whether affected companies deserve a refund or an offset.</para>
<para>We will not oppose the bill today, but we also can't support it until it receives proper scrutiny. The coalition believes in accountability, we believe in protecting taxpayers, and we believe that when government makes mistakes the Australian people deserve explanations of those mistakes and deserve that these mistakes receive proper scrutiny. So let's have a Senate inquiry do that work, hear from stakeholders that have been paying these fees and understand how they've been impacted. And if there's more that the government needs to consider before parliament passes these retrospective changes, so be it, because if small businesses are expected to comply with every rule and regulation to the letter of the law then surely ASIC and the government should do the same.</para>
<para>Debate adjourned.</para>
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          <title>Criminal Code Amendment (State Sponsors of Terrorism) Bill 2025</title>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [10:28]<br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick)</p>
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                <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question negatived.<br />Bill agreed to.</p>
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          </division></subdebate.2><subdebate.2><subdebateinfo>
            <title>Third Reading</title>
            <page.no>22</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:33</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms ROWLAND</name>
    <name.id>159771</name.id>
    <electorate>Greenway</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>by leave—I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this bill be now read a third time.</para></quote>
<para>Question agreed to.</para>
<para>Bill read a third time.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.2></subdebate.1></debate>
    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>BUSINESS</title>
        <page.no>22</page.no>
        <type>BUSINESS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Rearrangement</title>
          <page.no>22</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:34</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr WALLACE</name>
    <name.id>265967</name.id>
    <electorate>Fisher</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I seek leave to move the following motion:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent the following:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) the Crimes Amendment (Mandatory Minimum Sentences for Child Sexual Abuse) Bill 2025 standing referred to the Federation Chamber;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) the bill being called on for debate upon resumption of the meeting of the Federation Chamber today at 4 pm, with the time for each second reading speech limited to 10 minutes; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(3) proceedings on the bill having priority over all other government legislation, with debate concluding no later than 6 pm today, and any questions required to complete the bill's consideration in the Federation Chamber being put immediately.</para></quote>
<para>Leave not granted.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr WALLACE</name>
    <name.id>265967</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent the following:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) the Crimes Amendment (Mandatory Minimum Sentences for Child Sexual Abuse) Bill 2025 standing referring to the Federation Chamber;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) the bill being called on for debate upon resumption of the meeting of the Federation Chamber today at 4 pm with the time for each second—</para></quote>
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<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Order! The member for Fisher will pause for a moment. The Leader of the House.</para>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr Burke</name>
    <name.id>DYW</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>Under standing order 45C, I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That order of the day No. 3 be called on.</para></quote>
</interjection>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>53517</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The question is that the motion moved by the Leader of the House be agreed to.</para>
<para> </para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<division>
          <division.header>
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              <p class="HPS-DivisionPreamble">The House divided. [10:40]<br />(The Speaker—Hon. Milton Dick) </p>
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          </division.header>
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            <ayes>
              <num.votes>90</num.votes>
              <title>AYES</title>
              <names>
                <name>Abdo, B. J.</name>
                <name>Aly, A.</name>
                <name>Ambihaipahar, A.</name>
                <name>Belyea, J. A.</name>
                <name>Berry, C. G.</name>
                <name>Bowen, C. E.</name>
                <name>Briskey, J. L.</name>
                <name>Burke, A. S.</name>
                <name>Burnell, M. P.</name>
                <name>Burns, J.</name>
                <name>Butler, M. C.</name>
                <name>Byrnes, A. J.</name>
                <name>Campbell, J. P.</name>
                <name>Chalmers, J. E.</name>
                <name>Charlton, A. H. G.</name>
                <name>Chesters, L. M.</name>
                <name>Clare, J. D.</name>
                <name>Claydon, S. C.</name>
                <name>Clutterham, C. L.</name>
                <name>Coffey, R. K.</name>
                <name>Coker, E. A.</name>
                <name>Collins, J. M.</name>
                <name>Comer, E. L.</name>
                <name>Conroy, P. M.</name>
                <name>Cook, K. M. G.</name>
                <name>Cook, P. A.</name>
                <name>Doyle, M. J. J.</name>
                <name>Dreyfus, M. A.</name>
                <name>Elliot, M. J.</name>
                <name>France, A. A.</name>
                <name>Freelander, M. R.</name>
                <name>French, T. A.</name>
                <name>Garland, C. M. L.</name>
                <name>Georganas, S.</name>
                <name>Giles, A. J.</name>
                <name>Gorman, P. P.</name>
                <name>Gosling, L. J.</name>
                <name>Gregg, M. J.</name>
                <name>Hill, J. C.</name>
                <name>Holzberger, R. A. V.</name>
                <name>Husic, E. N.</name>
                <name>Jarrett, M. L.</name>
                <name>Jordan-Baird, M. A. M.</name>
                <name>Kearney, G. M.</name>
                <name>Keogh, M. J.</name>
                <name>Khalil, P.</name>
                <name>King, C. F.</name>
                <name>Lawrence, T. N.</name>
                <name>Laxale, J. A. A.</name>
                <name>Leigh, A. K.</name>
                <name>Lim, S. B. C.</name>
                <name>Marles, R. D.</name>
                <name>Mascarenhas, Z. F. A.</name>
                <name>McBain, K. L.</name>
                <name>McBride, E. M.</name>
                <name>Miller-Frost, L. J.</name>
                <name>Mitchell, R. G.</name>
                <name>Moncrieff, D. S.</name>
                <name>Mulino, D.</name>
                <name>Neumann, S. K.</name>
                <name>Ng, G. J.</name>
                <name>O'Neil, C. E.</name>
                <name>Phillips, F. E.</name>
                <name>Plibersek, T. J.</name>
                <name>Rae, S. T.</name>
                <name>Reid, G. J.</name>
                <name>Repacholi, D. P.</name>
                <name>Rishworth, A. L.</name>
                <name>Roberts, T. G.</name>
                <name>Rowland, M. A.</name>
                <name>Ryan, J. C.</name>
                <name>Scrymgour, M. R.</name>
                <name>Sitou, S.</name>
                <name>Smith, D. P. B. (Teller)</name>
                <name>Smith, M. J. H.</name>
                <name>Soon, X.</name>
                <name>Stanley, A. M. (Teller)</name>
                <name>Steggall, Z.</name>
                <name>Teesdale, J. A.</name>
                <name>Templeman, S. R.</name>
                <name>Thistlethwaite, M. J.</name>
                <name>Thwaites, K. L.</name>
                <name>Urquhart, A. E.</name>
                <name>Watts, T. G.</name>
                <name>Wells, A. S.</name>
                <name>White, R. P.</name>
                <name>Wilkie, A. D.</name>
                <name>Wilson, J. H.</name>
                <name>Witty, S. J.</name>
                <name>Zappia, A.</name>
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            <noes>
              <num.votes>41</num.votes>
              <title>NOES</title>
              <names>
                <name>Aldred, M. R.</name>
                <name>Batt, D. J.</name>
                <name>Bell, A. M.</name>
                <name>Birrell, S. J.</name>
                <name>Boele, N.</name>
                <name>Boyce, C. E.</name>
                <name>Buchholz, S.</name>
                <name>Caldwell, C. M.</name>
                <name>Chester, D. J.</name>
                <name>Conaghan, P. J.</name>
                <name>Gee, A. R.</name>
                <name>Hamilton, G. R.</name>
                <name>Hastie, A. W.</name>
                <name>Hawke, A. G.</name>
                <name>Joyce, B. T. G.</name>
                <name>Kennedy, S. P.</name>
                <name>Landry, M. L. (Teller)</name>
                <name>Le, D. T.</name>
                <name>Leeser, J.</name>
                <name>McCormack, M. F.</name>
                <name>McIntosh, M. I.</name>
                <name>McKenzie, Z. A.</name>
                <name>O'Brien, L. S.</name>
                <name>Pasin, A.</name>
                <name>Penfold, A. L.</name>
                <name>Pike, H. J. (Teller)</name>
                <name>Price, M. L.</name>
                <name>Rebello, L. S.</name>
                <name>Sharkie, R. C. C.</name>
                <name>Small, B. J.</name>
                <name>Taylor, A. J.</name>
                <name>Tehan, D. T.</name>
                <name>Venning, T. H.</name>
                <name>Violi, A. A.</name>
                <name>Wallace, A. B.</name>
                <name>Webster, A. E.</name>
                <name>Willcox, A. J.</name>
                <name>Wilson, R. J.</name>
                <name>Wilson, T. R.</name>
                <name>Wood, J. P.</name>
                <name>Young, T. J.</name>
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              <num.votes>0</num.votes>
              <title>PAIRS</title>
              <names />
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            <body>
              <p class="HPS-DivisionFooter">Question agreed to. </p>
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    <debate><debateinfo>
        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>23</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
      </debateinfo><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Social Security and Other Legislation Amendment (Technical Changes No. 2) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>23</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Social Security and Other Legislation Amendment (Technical Changes No. 2) Bill 2025</span>
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        </subdebate.text><subdebate.2><subdebateinfo>
            <title>Consideration in Detail</title>
            <page.no>23</page.no>
          </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:44</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms SPENDER</name>
    <name.id>286042</name.id>
    <electorate>Wentworth</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I move amendment (1) as circulated in my name:</para>
<quote><para class="block">(1) Clause 2, page 2 (table item 5), omit "Schedules 3 and 4", substitute "Schedules 3, 4 and 5".</para></quote>
<para>In brief, I'm going to move an amendment after this, but I have moved this amendment separately because I understand that the government is going to support this amendment. I'll speak to all amendments in my second speech.</para>
<para>Question agreed to.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Ms SPENDER</name>
    <name.id>286042</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I move amendment (2) as circulated in my name:</para>
<quote><para class="block">(2) Page 37 (after line 11), at the end of the Bill, add:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Schedule 5 — Extreme circumstances forcing departure from place of residence</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Social Security Act 1991</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">1 Section 1061JH (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "home", substitute "place of residence".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">2 Paragraph 1061JH(1)(a)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "his or her home", substitute "where the person has been residing".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">3 Paragraph 1061JH(1)(b)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "remain in, or return to, the home", substitute "remain, or return to, where the person has been residing".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">4 Paragraph 1061JH(1)(c)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the paragraph.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">5 Paragraph 1061JH(1)(e)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "7 days", substitute "14 days".</para></quote>
<para>It is no secret that Australia is in a domestic and family violence crisis. One in four women and one in 14 men have experienced violence by an intimate partner. According to the <inline font-style="italic">St</inline><inline font-style="italic">atus of </inline><inline font-style="italic">w</inline><inline font-style="italic">omen </inline><inline font-style="italic">r</inline><inline font-style="italic">eport</inline><inline font-style="italic"> card</inline>, 37 women were killed by a current or former intimate partner in 2024. This is why I welcome this legislation, particularly the extension of the special circumstances waiver. This will finally make provision for victims-survivors of financial abuse who have provided false information as a result of coercive control. It was a key recommendation of the 2024 parliamentary inquiry into financial abuse.</para>
<para>When I speak to community legal centres, peak bodies and survivor advocates, the message is clear: we must not only support those in crisis but ensure that systems are there for people when they have made the brave decision to leave. That is what my amendment seeks to do. It focuses on the family violence crisis payment, a one-off non-taxable payment designed to support people experiencing extreme circumstances and severe financial hardship. Right now, it is not working the way it should. According to the <inline font-style="italic">Economic Inclusion Advisory Committee </inline><inline font-style="italic">2025 </inline><inline font-style="italic">report</inline>, only half of potentially eligible people access the crisis payment and many are rejected on technical grounds. That is not what crisis response should do. Victims-survivors who are navigating police reports, relocating children, enrolling in new schools or seeking medical support are being penalised because they do not file paperwork in time or because their housing situation does not meet the outdated bureaucratic definition. This must change.</para>
<para>Firstly, I'm calling on the government to extend the seven-day claim period. Seven days is an incredibly short period of time when someone is in trauma and in chaos. Survivors often do not know the payment even exists within that timeframe, let alone have the capacity to fill out the Centrelink paperwork and navigate online portals or prove the case while they're in hiding. The 2025 report found that 7.7 per cent of rejections were due to missed deadlines, including many more who had never applied because they were already outside the time limit. A short window should not be the reason why someone cannot receive help in a moment of need.</para>
<para>Secondly, my amendment covers the definition of 'home'. Under the current rules, it is too narrow. Many of the most vulnerable victims-survivors live or are forced to move to informal, temporary or unsafe accommodation such as tents, hostels or crisis refuges, which are not legally defined as 'home' in the act. This disproportionately effects people who are already on the margins. I urge the government to replace the word 'home' with 'place of residence' in the legislation, to ensure we do not exclude those most in need.</para>
<para>Thirdly, the current rules require that the applicants show they're establishing a new home. This is unnecessary. Under the Social Security Act, a person must already demonstrate they cannot return to their previous home. It is unreasonable to expect them to. Requiring evidence that a person is setting up a new permanent home, especially in the middle of a housing crisis, is unrealistic and counterproductive. The government's own figures show that 13.8 per cent of crisis payment claims were rejected due to this condition or because the perpetrator was not formally registered as living with the applicant. Survivors may be moving from couch to couch, refuge to refuge. The system should recognise that fleeing violence, not whether the new lease has been signed, is the crisis.</para>
<para>These changes are small, commonsense adjustments, but they could be the difference between someone getting real support when they need it and falling through the cracks. It is all about the detail for them. This payment can be life-saving. It helps pay for housing bonds, new school uniforms, urgent medical costs or simply a safe night in a motel. It can offer a moment of dignity in a moment of chaos and can help a survivor and their children take their first steps on a life free from violence.</para>
<para>I thank the government for its ongoing commitment to addressing family and domestic violence. I thank the minister for the constructive engagement we have had on this amendment. I urge the government and the minister to adopt this amendment and to support these changes that have been recommended by experts, including the Economic Inclusion Advisory Committee, and been well supported by the people I speak to in the sector, including those who have survived this experience themselves. Let's make the crisis payment work for the people it's meant to serve. I commend this amendment.</para>
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<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:49</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms PLIBERSEK</name>
    <name.id>83M</name.id>
    <electorate>Sydney</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I want to thank the member for Wentworth for the chance to discuss this amendment with her. The government is broadly supportive of the direction she's seeking to take, but there are a couple of things I need to draw to the attention of the House.</para>
<para>We completely agree that someone who's fleeing a violent living situation should be able to focus on their safety first and apply for the crisis payment once they're able to do so. Since this crisis payment was introduced, however, the government has also, in addition, introduced the leaving violence payment, which is up to $5,000 for someone who's fleeing violence. The leaving violence payment is much more flexible than the crisis payment.</para>
<para>I'd also note that there is already flexibility built into the application process for the crisis payment for people who've experienced family, domestic or sexual violence. For example, for a person who has left their home due to family, domestic or sexual violence, it's not that they have seven days to apply for it; they have seven days from the date they decide they cannot return to their home to submit a claim. That might be several weeks after they've left their home. In addition, Services Australia can also provide an additional 14 days to submit a claim where a person has experienced family and domestic violence. We're prepared to look at the suggestion to standardise the 14 days, but I think it's important to note that there is already flexibility and that an additional payment has been introduced since the crisis payment first became available.</para>
<para>So we won't support the amendment but we will continue to work with the member for Wentworth on the intention that she is pursuing. Our view is similar in relation to expanding eligibility for the payment to a broader set of living arrangements—for example, those fleeing violence who are living in temporary accommodation. We're looking at this as part of future work to expand protection for victims and survivors of family, domestic and sexual violence, wherever they are, and we plan to consult further in relation to the changes. Unfortunately, our view is that this amendment, as it's currently drafted, may inadvertently offer benefits to perpetrators of violence in some situations. I know that's not the intent of the member, so we would have to be a little bit more careful in the drafting of the amendment to acknowledge the intent of the member for Wentworth.</para>
<para>While I won't be supporting this second amendment from the member for Wentworth, I do think that we can work together to progress the intention of her amendments.</para>
<para>Question negatived.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:53</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr WILKIE</name>
    <name.id>C2T</name.id>
    <electorate>Clark</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>by leave—I move amendments (1) and (2) as circulated in my name together:</para>
<quote><para class="block">(1) Clause 2, page 2 (after table item 4), insert:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) Schedule 2, page 29 (after line 23), at the end of the Schedule, add:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Part 4 — Time limit on debt recovery</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Division 1 — Amendments</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">A New Tax System (Family Assistance) (Administration) Act 1999</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">15 Section 93B</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the section, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">93B Time limit on debt recovery</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">For the purposes of this Part, legal proceedings or any action under a provision of this Part for the recovery of a debt or overpayment may not be commenced after 6 years has elapsed since the overpayment was made.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Social Security Act 1991</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">16 Section 1234B</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the section, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">1234B Time limit on debt recovery</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">For the purposes of this Chapter, legal proceedings or any action under a provision of this Chapter for the recovery of a debt or overpayment may not be commenced after 6 years has elapsed since the overpayment was made.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Student Assistance Act 1973</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">17 Section 42B</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the section, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">42B Time limit on debt recovery</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">For the purposes of this Part, legal proceedings or any action under a provision of this Part for the recovery of a debt or overpayment may not be commenced after 6 years has elapsed since the overpayment was made.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Division 2 — Application of amendments</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">18 Application of amendments</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">The amendments made by this Part apply in relation to a debt that is raised before or after this item commences.</para></quote>
<para>The Social Security and Other Legislation Amendment (Technical Changes No. 2) Bill 2025 bill contains a number of changes to the social security law that I and many others broadly welcome, particularly the expansion of debt waiver provisions. It also includes what I believe is an attempt at a nuanced and reasonable response to the issue of income apportionment debts. This was a method which was found to be unlawfully applied and which the Department of Social Services itself estimates has been used since the 1990s and could affect about three million people. While I would argue for waiving or writing off all of these debts, I can see that the minister has navigated a sensible pathway here.</para>
<para>What is missing from the bill is the commitment to address a key outstanding recommendation of the Royal Commission into the Robodebt Scheme, and that is the reintroduction of a six-year limitation on debt recovery actions by Services Australia. The importance of this recommendation cannot be overstated. Two years have now passed since the royal commission report was handed down, and, frankly, there's no good reason that this simple reform has not yet been implemented. So that is exactly what my amendments seek to do, and they do so entirely consistently with the commissioner's own comment. She said, 'There is no reason that current and former social security recipients should be on any different footing from other debtors.'</para>
<para>Let me be clear. The amendments as drafted don't magically disappear a debt if it has already been identified and is being pursued by Services Australia. What they do is reintroduce a bit of fairness to the system and a bit of humanity. It's a recognition that if six years or more have passed, you shouldn't suddenly have Services Australia notifying you of debts and demanding immediate payment or requesting evidence, which most people would long ago have lost or discarded. Even the ATO only requires us to keep evidence for five years.</para>
<para>I'm proud that we have a comprehensive income support system in this country, but I think that, even despite the robodebt royal commission, people often forget or ignore the pain, frustration and terror the system can inflict on people. Of course, a debt notice is a frightening thing at any time. But one from a government agency which relates to a payment you might have received 10 years ago—you might have no documentation and perhaps only the faintest memory of your circumstances—is quite likely to be terrifying. It's no wonder that at the core of the robodebt royal commission's findings was the simple fact that government services need to return to providing access to an effective income support system for Australians, ensuring they are treated with respect and dignity. I would like to think that this government would have this goal as its guiding principle.</para>
<para>I'd like to think the minister would consider this bill to be just a very small first step, with many more to come quickly, because there's a lot still to be addressed. For starters, the government could support my amendments and reintroduce the limitation on debt recovery. They could also revisit the robodebt royal commission report and the many other recommendations for which, after over two years, we're still waiting for the government's response and implementation. Just a few weeks ago I introduced my responding to robodebt bill; I'd be happy if they were wanting to adopt and progress that bill. Once the government have done that, they could then turn their attention to addressing the gross injustice in the mutual obligation scheme, which led to the illegal suspension and cancellation of the Centrelink payments of some 300,000 people between 2020 and 2024.</para>
<para>Of course, there's one other big thing the government could do to bring decency and humanity back to the income support system, and that's to finally raise the rates of payments to lift recipients out of poverty and to provide them with the basic human dignity to which they are entitled. I'll leave that all out there for the government to consider, but, for now, I urge the government—and, indeed, all members in this place—to take a first step and support my amendments to reintroduce a six-year limitation on debt recovery actions by Services Australia as recommended by the robodebt royal commission.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:58</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms PLIBERSEK</name>
    <name.id>83M</name.id>
    <electorate>Sydney</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I want to thank the member for Clark. I know that this has been a point of interest for him—he's shown a real commitment for many years—as it has been for our government. He spoke about returning fairness and humanity to the social security system. Certainly, that is also our intention and desire. In his last comments, he spoke about raising the rate. I would remind him that since coming to government we've increased age and disability pensions by about $5,000 a year, we've increased JobSeeker—working-age payments—by about $4,000 a year, and we've increased Commonwealth rent assistance by up to $1,800 a year. Those initial changes, which we made to social security in the first two budgets, were an investment of around $11½ billion in a fairer system. So there have been very substantial investments already.</para>
<para>I want to also remind the House that it was the Albanese government that established the robodebt royal commission. We exposed a very dark chapter in Australian public administration, and we're the ones fixing it. We've agreed or agreed in principle to all 56 recommendations of the royal commission; three-quarters have already been fully completed or substantially progressed. Recommendation 18.2, relating to the statute of limitations, was agreed in principle and it's one of the recommendations that we're working on. For the measure to be effective, it needs to be carefully designed and consulted on—a process that we are carrying out thoroughly.</para>
<para>The previous statute of limitations was actually not as effective as it could have been and didn't provide a meaningful limit on the raising and recovering of historic debts. I remind the member that increasing the small debt waiver to $250, as he supports in this bill, means that we will waive about 1.2 million undetermined debts this financial year alone. This one measure will remove more debts from the backlog than reinstating the old statute of limitations would. Measures such as these bring with them very significant budget impacts, and, as part of our consideration approach, the government have to work through each proposal to ensure that it's of the best possible benefit for the whole community.</para>
<para>I assure the member for Clark that this work is ongoing, but we are not able to support his amendments at this time.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:00</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr HAINES</name>
    <name.id>282335</name.id>
    <electorate>Indi</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to support the amendments moved by my colleague the member for Clark. I acknowledge what the minister has just said to us and thank her for her careful consideration of the recommendations of the final report of the royal commission into robodebt and acknowledge that it was established by the Albanese Labor government.</para>
<para>I am heartened that these amendments and the argument put by the member for Clark are under consideration, more broadly, by the minister and her department. It is tremendously important that, at all times, we act with fairness and humanity, as the minister just pointed out and as the member for Clark so eloquently described. It's critical that the recommendations of the royal commission, which the government have agreed to, are enacted because we can never forget and we must not forget. As parliamentarians and as legislators, we cannot allow this ever to be repeated. We simply can't allow the most vulnerable in our community to come up again against the might of an automated and dispassionate government system set up deliberately—let's not forget—to target them.</para>
<para>The amendments would place a six-year time limit on debt recovery actions. It is, effectively, a statute of limitations, and I thank the minister for explaining that, because it's useful. I think this is what we seek. The public, more broadly, seeks nuanced understanding of the rationale for government to act or not act, to act immediately or to delay and consider. So it's really useful to have that explanation.</para>
<para>In light of what the minister said and in addition to it, I still think that, ultimately, recovering social security debts with a time limit is a fair approach and that there should be some limitation on the length of time. It's practical that this be brought in line with ordinary law because ordinary law has such a thing. I think that there is actually no reason why social security debts should be treated differently to any other kind of debt.</para>
<para>In 2016 the former coalition government removed the previous six-year limit. It allowed debts to be pursued at any time, and we've seen the consequences of that—devastating consequences. I would argue that there's probably not a member of this House of Representatives who cannot cite devastating stories from their own electorate of the impact of this. I know I have countless stories. The decision by the coalition government in 2016 opened the door to chasing very, very old debts—years after the fact. These were debts that the member for Clark has said people would not even know that they had. Worse still, these debts were often the result of government errors, not their own. This is serious.</para>
<para>The bill before the House today recognises that governments make mistakes. This bill—and the intention with which the minister puts it—demonstrates as clearly as you could possibly demonstrate that thousands of people never even knew that they were being overpaid due to income apportionment. We know that chasing people down for these unknown and often minor debts years down the track is not only unfair but actually unconscionable. It's why I ultimately welcome so many parts of this bill that will provide some justice and recourse for victims of income apportionment, including the small debt waiver and the resolution scheme. It was really useful again to hear the minister talk about what that will ultimately do.</para>
<para>Even the mere existence of limitless debt recovery powers is ultimately, though, a failure of fairness in our social security system. It's not how a trustworthy system should work, and it hasn't been rectified in the almost 10 years since the coalition government enacted this. The robodebt royal commission recommended restoring the six-year limit by repealing section 1234B of the Social Security Act. I back that recommendation in full. The government has accepted it in principle, and I understand that you're working towards this, so I really encourage you to continue to do so. I thank you for the courage in what you've done so far, and I ask you to continue that courage and adopt this recommendation as quickly as you possibly can. Reinstating the time limit will encourage Services Australia to act promptly to keep proper records and to fix errors early rather than pursuing people years later. Ultimately, that will reduce harm, and that's what we're all seeking to do. I thank the member for Clark for raising in a debate, and I urge the minister to continue to act with haste to sort out this last problem.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>265979</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The member for Clark is seeking the call?</para>
</interjection>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:06</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr WILKIE</name>
    <name.id>C2T</name.id>
    <electorate>Clark</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Yes, please, Deputy Speaker. I just want to say, through you, to the minister: I do get some comfort from your response to my amendment, and I am prepared to put my trust in you and what you've just said—that you are progressing and working on all of the recommendations of the robodebt royal commission. It had been my intention to call a division on this amendment, and I will now not be seeking that division. I would add, though: the country is watching. The country was outraged by robodebt and is looking to the government to move as quickly as it humanly can to implement those recommendations, in particular to bring that time limit on the recovery of debts into line with all the other time limits we have in this country.</para>
<para>I make the point again of an example I gave 10 years ago about someone. Heavens—the company they worked for possibly doesn't even exist anymore. They can't get payslips. I remember, during the furore of robodebt when it first blew up, talking to a constituent who, over the period that Services Australia were asking for documentation, had held four jobs, and two of those companies didn't exist anymore. The weight is on the government, but I put my trust in the minister. Hopefully, this can be resolved as quickly as possible.</para>
<para>Question negatived.</para>
</speech>
<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:07</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms PLIBERSEK</name>
    <name.id>83M</name.id>
    <electorate>Sydney</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I present a replacement explanatory memorandum and a supplementary explanatory memorandum to the bill. I ask leave of the House to move government amendments (2) to (25) as circulated together.</para>
<para>Leave granted.</para>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Ms PLIBERSEK</name>
    <name.id>83M</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">(1) Clause 2, page 2 (table item 5), omit "Schedules 3 and 4", substitute "Schedules 3, 4 and 5".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) Schedule 2, item 1, page 22 (line 16), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(3) Schedule 2, item 1, page 22 (line 22), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(4) Schedule 2, item 1, page 22 (line 27), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(5) Schedule 2, item 1, page 22 (line 28), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(6) Schedule 2, item 2, page 23 (line 12), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(7) Schedule 2, item 2, page 23 (line 18), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(8) Schedule 2, item 2, page 23 (line 22), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(9) Schedule 2, item 2, page 23 (line 24), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(10) Schedule 2, item 3, page 24 (line 3), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(11) Schedule 2, item 3, page 24 (line 9), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(12) Schedule 2, item 3, page 24 (line 15), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(13) Schedule 2, item 3, page 24 (line 17), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(14) Schedule 2, item 4, page 24 (line 29), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(15) Schedule 2, item 4, page 24 (line 35), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(16) Schedule 2, item 4, page 25 (line 2), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(17) Schedule 2, item 4, page 25 (line 4), after "act", insert ", failure".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(18) Schedule 2, item 6, page 26 (line 11), omit "Note", substitute "Note 1".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(19) Schedule 2, item 6, page 26 (after line 13), at the end of section 99, add:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Note 2: If the Secretary suspects that there may have been fraud or serious non-compliance in relation to a debt waived under this section, the waiver does not prevent the Secretary from taking further appropriate action against the debtor or any other person.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(20) Schedule 2, item 7, page 26 (line 21), omit "Note", substitute "Note 1".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(21) Schedule 2, item 7, page 26 (after line 23), at the end of section 197, add:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Note 2: If the Secretary suspects that there may have been fraud or serious non-compliance in relation to a debt waived under this section, the waiver does not prevent the Secretary from taking further appropriate action against the debtor or any other person.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(22) Schedule 2, item 11, page 27 (after line 19), at the end of section 1237AAA, add:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Note 3: If the Secretary suspects that there may have been fraud or serious non-compliance in relation to a debt waived under this section, the waiver does not prevent the Secretary from taking further appropriate action against the debtor or any other person.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(23) Schedule 2, item 12, page 28 (line 8), omit "Note", substitute "Note 1".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(24) Schedule 2, item 12, page 28 (after line 10), at the end of section 43D, add:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Note 2: If the Secretary suspects that there may have been fraud or serious non-compliance in relation to a debt waived under this section, the waiver does not prevent the Secretary from taking further appropriate action against the debtor or any other person.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(25) Page 37 (after line 11), at the end of the Bill, add:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Schedule 5 — Benefit restriction notices</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Part 1 — Social Security Act amendments</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Social Security Act 1991</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">1 Subsection 23(1)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Insert:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">AFP Minister</inline> means the Minister administering the <inline font-style="italic">Australian Federal Police Act 1979</inline>.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">ASIO Minister</inline> means the Minister administering the <inline font-style="italic">Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Act 1979</inline>.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">benefit restriction notice</inline> means a notice under section 38MA or 38N.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">senior AFP member</inline> has the same meaning as in the <inline font-style="italic">Criminal Code</inline>.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">2 Subsection 23(1) (definition of <inline font-style="italic">Home Affairs Minister</inline> )</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the definition.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">3 Subsection 23(1) (definition of <inline font-style="italic">security notice</inline> )</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the definition.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">4 Part 1.3B (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "on security grounds".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">5 Section 38L</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the section, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">38L Simplified outline of this Part</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Persons may lose social security payments or concession cards if they:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) are the subject of an arrest warrant in respect of a serious violent or sexual offence; or</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) might prejudice the security of Australia or a foreign country.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">6 Section 38M (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "on security grounds".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">7 Subsection 38 M( 1)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">8 Subsection 38 M( 1) (note)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the note, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Note: A benefit restriction notice is a notice under section 38MA or 38N.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">9 Subsections 38 M( 2) to (4)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">10 After section 38M</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Insert:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">38MA Benefit restriction notice from AFP Minister</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) The AFP Minister may give the Minister a written notice requiring that this Part apply in relation to a specified person if:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the person is the subject of an arrest warrant issued in Australia in respect of a serious violent or sexual offence (within the meaning of Division 395 of the <inline font-style="italic">Criminal Code</inline>); and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the person has not been arrested under the warrant; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) a cancellation request for the person has been made as mentioned in subsection (2).</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Cancellation requests</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1)(c), a cancellation request has been made for the person if a request to cancel the person's social security payments or concession card (however expressed) has been made, in writing:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) by a senior AFP member or a member of a State or Territory police force whose rank is equivalent to the rank of a senior AFP member; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) to any of the following:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) the AFP Minister;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) the Minister;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iii) the Minister administering the <inline font-style="italic">Human Services (Centrelink) Act </inline><inline font-style="italic">1997</inline>;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iv) the Department;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(v) the Human Services Department.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Considerations for giving a notice</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(3) Before giving a notice under this section, the AFP Minister must have regard to the following:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the extent to which the person is likely to be a threat or danger to the community while the person is not arrested under the warrant;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the likely effect of the operation of section 38M on the person's dependants, if the AFP Minister is aware of those dependants.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(4) The Secretary of the Department administered by the AFP Minister must:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) seek the advice of the Human Services Secretary in relation to paragraph (3)(b); and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) inform the AFP Minister of that advice.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(5) Subsection (3) does not limit the matters to which regard may be had.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">11 Section 38N (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the heading, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">38N Benefit restriction notice from ASIO Minister</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">12 Section 38N</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "Home Affairs" (wherever occurring), substitute "ASIO".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">13 Section 38P</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "Home Affairs", substitute "ASIO".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">14 Section 38R (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">15 Section 38R</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">16 Section 38S (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">17 Section 38S</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">18 Section 38SA (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">19 Section 38SA</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "the Home Affairs Minister must consider whether to revoke a security notice", substitute "the Minister who gave a benefit restriction notice must consider whether to revoke the benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">20 Paragraph 38SA(b)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "the Home Affairs", substitute "that".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">21 Section 38T (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">22 Subsection 38 T( 1)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the subsection, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) If the AFP Minister or the ASIO Minister has given a benefit restriction notice, that Minister may, by written notice given to the Minister, revoke the benefit restriction notice.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">23 Paragraph 38T(4)(b)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "Home Affairs Minister revokes the security notice", substitute "AFP Minister or ASIO Minister revokes the benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">24 Application</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">The amendments made by this Part apply in relation to arrest warrants issued before, on or after the commencement of this item.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">25 Transitional</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">A security notice that was:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) given under section 38N of the <inline font-style="italic">Social Security Act 1991</inline> (as in force before the commencement of this item); and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) in force immediately before that commencement;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">continues in force (and may be dealt with) at and after that commencement as if it were a benefit restriction notice given under that section as amended by this Part.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Part 2 — Family Assistance Act amendments</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">A New Tax System (Family Assistance) Act 1999</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">26 Subsection 3(1)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Insert:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">AFP Minister</inline> means the Minister administering the <inline font-style="italic">Australian Federal Police Act 1979</inline>.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">ASIO Minister</inline> means the Minister administering the <inline font-style="italic">Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Act 1979</inline>.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">benefit restriction notice</inline> means a notice under section 57GIA or 57GJ.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">senior AFP member</inline> has the same meaning as in the <inline font-style="italic">Criminal Code</inline>.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">27 Subsection 3(1) (definition of <inline font-style="italic">Home Affairs Minister</inline> )</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the definition.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">28 Subsection 3(1) (definition of <inline font-style="italic">security notice</inline> )</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the definition.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">29 Division 7 of Part 3 (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "on security grounds".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">30 Section 57GH</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the section, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">57GH Simplified outline of this Division</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Individuals may lose family assistance if they:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) are the subject of an arrest warrant in respect of a serious violent or sexual offence; or</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) might prejudice the security of Australia or a foreign country.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">31 Section 57GI (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "on security grounds".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">32 Subsection 57 GI( 1) (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "<inline font-style="italic">Security notice</inline>", substitute "<inline font-style="italic">Benefit restriction notice</inline>".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">33 Subsection 57 GI( 1)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">34 Section 57GI (note 1)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the note, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Note 1: A benefit restriction notice is a notice under section 57GIA or 57GJ.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">35 Subsections 57 GI( 2) to (4)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">36 Subsection 57 GI( 7) (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "<inline font-style="italic">Security notice</inline>", substitute "<inline font-style="italic">Benefit restriction notice</inline>".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">37 Paragraph 57GI(7)(a)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">38 After section 57GI</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Insert:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">57GIA Benefit restriction notice from AFP Minister</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) The AFP Minister may give the Minister a written notice requiring that this Division apply in relation to a specified individual if:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the individual is the subject of an arrest warrant issued in Australia in respect of a serious violent or sexual offence (within the meaning of Division 395 of the <inline font-style="italic">Criminal Code</inline>); and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the individual has not been arrested under the warrant; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) a cancellation request for the individual has been made as mentioned in subsection (2).</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Cancellation requests</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1)(c), a cancellation request has been made for the individual if a request to cancel the individual's family assistance (however expressed) has been made, in writing:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) by a senior AFP member or a member of a State or Territory police force whose rank is equivalent to the rank of a senior AFP member; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) to any of the following:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) the AFP Minister;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) the Minister;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iii) the Minister administering the <inline font-style="italic">Human Services (Centrelink) Act </inline><inline font-style="italic">1997</inline>;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iv) the Department;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(v) the Human Services Department.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Notice may recommend payments to payment nominee</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(3) A notice under this section may recommend that payments of family assistance of the individual, to the extent set out in the notice, be paid to a payment nominee of the individual under Part 8B of the Family Assistance Administration Act.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Considerations for giving a notice</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(4) Before giving a notice under this section, the AFP Minister must have regard to the following:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the extent to which the individual is likely to be a threat or danger to the community while the individual is not arrested under the warrant;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the likely effect of the operation of section 57GI on the individual's dependants, if the AFP Minister is aware of those dependants.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(5) The Secretary of the Department administered by the AFP Minister must:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) seek the advice of the Human Services Secretary in relation to paragraph (4)(b); and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) inform the AFP Minister of that advice.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(6) Subsection (4) does not limit the matters to which regard may be had.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">39 Section 57GJ (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the heading, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">57GJ Benefit restriction notice from ASIO Minister</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">40 Section 57GJ</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "Home Affairs" (wherever occurring), substitute "ASIO".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">41 Section 57GK</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "Home Affairs", substitute "ASIO".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">42 Section 57GM (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">43 Sections 57GM</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">44 Section 57GN (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">45 Sections 57GN</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">46 Section 57GNA (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">47 Section 57GNA</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "the Home Affairs Minister must consider whether to revoke a security notice", substitute "the Minister who gave a benefit restriction notice must consider whether to revoke the benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">48 Paragraph 57GNA(b)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "the Home Affairs", substitute "that".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">49 Section 57GO (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">50 Subsection 57 GO( 1)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the subsection, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) If the AFP Minister or the ASIO Minister has given a benefit restriction notice, that Minister may, by written notice given to the Minister, revoke the benefit restriction notice.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">51 Paragraph 57GO(4)(b)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "Home Affairs Minister revokes the security notice", substitute "AFP Minister or ASIO Minister revokes the benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">52 Application</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">The amendments made by this Part apply in relation to arrest warrants issued before, on or after the commencement of this item.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">53 Transitional</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">A security notice that was:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) given under section 57GJ of the <inline font-style="italic">A New Tax System (Family Assistance) Act 1999</inline> (as in force before the commencement of this item); and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) in force immediately before that commencement;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">continues in force (and may be dealt with) at and after that commencement as if it were a benefit restriction notice given under that section as amended by this Part.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Part 3 — Paid Parental Leave Act amendments</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Paid Parental Leave Act 2010</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">54 Section 6</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Insert:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">AFP Minister</inline> means the Minister administering the <inline font-style="italic">Australian Federal Police Act 1979</inline>.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">ASIO Minister</inline> means the Minister administering the <inline font-style="italic">Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Act 1979</inline>.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">benefit restriction notice</inline> means a notice under section 278BA or 278C.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"><inline font-style="italic">senior AFP member</inline> has the same meaning as in the <inline font-style="italic">Criminal Code</inline>.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">55 Section 6 (definition of <inline font-style="italic">Home Affairs Minister</inline> )</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the definition.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">56 Section 6 (definition of <inline font-style="italic">security notice</inline> )</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the definition.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">57 Division 5 of Part 6-1 (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "on security grounds".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">58 Section 278A</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the section, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">278A Simplified outline of this Division</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Persons may lose parental leave pay if they:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) are the subject of an arrest warrant in respect of a serious violent or sexual offence; or</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) might prejudice the security of Australia or a foreign country.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">59 Section 278B (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "on security grounds".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">60 Subsection 278 B( 1)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">61 Subsection 278 B( 1) (note)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the note, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Note: A benefit restriction notice is a notice under section 278BA or 278C.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">62 Subsections 278 B( 3)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">63 After section 278B</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Insert:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">278BA Benefit restriction notice from AFP Minister</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) The AFP Minister may give the Minister a written notice requiring that this Division apply in relation to a specified person if:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the person is the subject of an arrest warrant issued in Australia in respect of a serious violent or sexual offence (within the meaning of Division 395 of the <inline font-style="italic">Criminal Code</inline>); and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the person has not been arrested under the warrant; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(c) a cancellation request for the person has been made as mentioned in subsection (2).</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Cancellation requests</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1)(c), a cancellation request has been made for the person if a request to cancel the person's parental leave pay (however expressed) has been made, in writing:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) by a senior AFP member or a member of a State or Territory police force whose rank is equivalent to the rank of a senior AFP member; and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) to any of the following:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(i) the AFP Minister;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(ii) the Minister;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iii) the Minister administering the <inline font-style="italic">Human Services (Centrelink) Act </inline><inline font-style="italic">1997</inline>;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(iv) the Department;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(v) the Human Services Department.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block"> <inline font-style="italic">Considerations for giving a notice</inline></para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(3) Before giving a notice under this section, the AFP Minister must have regard to the following:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) the extent to which the person is likely to be a threat or danger to the community while the person is not arrested under the warrant;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) the likely effect of the operation of section 278B on the person's dependants, if the AFP Minister is aware of those dependants.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(4) The Secretary of the Department administered by the AFP Minister must:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) seek the advice of the Human Services Secretary in relation to paragraph (3)(b); and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) inform the AFP Minister of that advice.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(5) Subsection (3) does not limit the matters to which regard may be had.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">64 Section 278C (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the heading, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">278C Benefit restriction notice from ASIO Minister</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">65 Section 278C</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "Home Affairs" (wherever occurring), substitute "ASIO".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">66 Section 278D</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "Home Affairs", substitute "ASIO".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">67 Section 278F (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">68 Section 278F</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">69 Section 278G (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">70 Section 278G</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">71 Section 278GA (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">72 Section 278GA</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "the Home Affairs Minister must consider whether to revoke a security notice", substitute "the Minister who gave a benefit restriction notice must consider whether to revoke the benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">73 Paragraph 278GA(b)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "the Home Affairs", substitute "that".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">74 Section 278H (heading)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Omit "security notice", substitute "benefit restriction notice".</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">75 Subsection 278 H( 1)</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Repeal the subsection, substitute:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(1) If the AFP Minister or the ASIO Minister has given a benefit restriction notice, that Minister may, by written notice given to the Minister, revoke the benefit restriction notice.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">76 Application</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">The amendments made by this Part apply in relation to arrest warrants issued before, on or after the commencement of this item.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">77 Transitional</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">A security notice that was:</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(a) given under section 278C of the <inline font-style="italic">Paid Parental Leave Act 2010</inline> (as in force before the commencement of this item); and</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">(b) in force immediately before that commencement;</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">continues in force (and may be dealt with) at and after that commencement as if it were a benefit restriction notice given under that section as amended by this Part.</para></quote>
<para>With this bill, the government is delivering a fairer, more efficient social security system. We heard from members of this House on Monday and again just now about the importance of these changes for people right across our country. The amendments I'm moving today make generally technical changes to provide for more effective debt administration and service delivery. They clarify the intent behind the suite of amendments provided for in schedule 2, which reform debt and waiver arrangements. The government is also proposing new schedule 5 for the bill, which provides for the use of benefit restriction notices to cease social security payments and concessions in certain circumstances relating to alleged offenders of serious violent or sexual offences who are evading arrest.</para>
<para>In relation to schedule 2, the amendments are minor and technical in nature and are intended to remove any doubt behind the circumstances in which the broad and special circumstances waiver may apply. The changes delivered through this bill give Services Australia extended powers to waive social security debts that have been incurred because of coercion or financial abuse. The government's amendments clarify that this expanded eligibility for the waiver means that it applies in all cases of coercion or financial abuse, including failures to comply with the law. We have had significant interest in this element of the bill.</para>
<para>We also heard some harrowing accounts in this place from members whose previous careers gave them real personal insight into the need for this provision. I want to particularly thank the members for Bonner, Barton, Maribyrnong, Curtin and Wentworth for their contributions. I want to assure all members that this text provides for the Services Australia decision-maker to be able to take a person's full situation into account and apply the waiver when coercion or abuse are present.</para>
<para>The government's amendments also reinforce the application of compliance measures relating to the small debt waiver by clarifying that the secretary may take appropriate action where a person is seen to be manipulating the waiver or perpetrating fraud.</para>
<para>Fraud represents a small minority of debts. We know that people generally engage with the social security system honestly and in good faith, but the small debt waiver is not for those involved in significant noncompliance or fraud. The government will continue to take appropriate action, including prosecution, in the most serious cases where individuals have illegally manipulated the waiver or committed fraud.</para>
<para>We are also proposing a new schedule 5, which provides for the use of benefit restriction notices to ensure people who are subject to an outstanding arrest warrant for a serious violent or sexual offence can no longer be supported through the social security and family payment system. I have to reiterate that this is for people who are subject to an outstanding arrest warrant for a serious violent or sexual offence.</para>
<para>There's currently no lawful authority to cancel a person's payments or concessions in these circumstances. We propose this new power to be used only in the most serious circumstances, and only following a thorough and considered decision-making process. But our reasoning is clear: fugitives suspected of committing serious violent or sexual offences should not be receiving taxpayer funded income support payments, and it should be possible to cancel those payments.</para>
<para>This amendment provides for a person's payments from Services Australia or their social security concession cards to be able to be cancelled when they are subject to an outstanding arrest warrant for a serious violent or sexual offence and are evading police. The cancellation decision will also consider the extent to which an individual is likely to be a threat or danger to the community. It includes all social security payments, like jobseeker and age pension payments, family assistance payments and paid parental leave. It also applies to concession cards like the pensioner concession card and the low-income healthcare card.</para>
<para>This change will uphold the integrity of our social security system and ensure that those who are accused of serious violent or sexual crimes and are evading police cannot benefit from it. These people are accused of serious violent or sexual crime, there is an arrest warrant for them, they are evading police and they are considered to be a potential threat to the community. These are very high barriers.</para>
<para>The amendment will provide for a benefit restriction notice to be issued in the name of an individual while a warrant for a serious violent or sexual offence within the meaning of the Criminal Code Act 1995 is out for their arrest and they are on the run. A written request to cancel the individual's payments and/or concession card from an appropriately senior member of the Australian Federal Police or a state or territory police force will be required. Prior to the issuing of a benefit restriction notice, consideration will be given to the extent to which a person is likely to be a threat or danger to the community.</para>
<para>Prior to the issuing of a benefit restriction notice, consideration will be given to the extent to which the person is likely to be a threat or danger to the community and the impact that the cancellation of the person's payments and/or concession card may have on any dependents the individual may have. The power to issue a notice will be given to the minister administering the Australian Federal Police Act 1979. That minister is currently the Minister for Home Affairs. This minister is to obtain advice from Services Australia about any dependents a person has prior to issuing a notice.</para>
<para>These are carefully considered amendments and, should the parliament support them, will be carefully put into practice. It's common sense. It's in line with community expectations that taxpayer funded support should not go into someone's bank account if they're running from the law, accused of serious, violent or sexual offences.</para>
<para>Question agreed to.</para>
<para>Bill, as amended, agreed to.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:17</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms PLIBERSEK</name>
    <name.id>83M</name.id>
    <electorate>Sydney</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>by leave—I move:</para>
<quote><para class="block">That this bill be now read a third time.</para></quote>
<para>Question agreed to.</para>
<para>Bill read a third time.</para>
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          <title>Treasury Laws Amendment (Payday Superannuation) Bill 2025, Superannuation Guarantee Charge Amendment Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>36</page.no>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:19</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr TIM WILSON</name>
    <name.id>IMW</name.id>
    <electorate>Goldstein</electorate>
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  <para>As the member for Goldstein—and it's an excellent way that we started this debate—it is wonderful to speak on this piece of legislation, the Treasury Laws Amendment (Payday Superannuation) Bill 2025, because, as you know, Deputy Speaker Freelander, superannuation is Australians' money. It's Australians' money. It's not the money of the Labor Party. It's not the money of industry super funds. It's not the money of the corrupt cartel kickbacks for the CFMEU. It's not there to be laundered for institutions as they see fit. It is there for Australians as they see fit. That's why we fundamentally believe that Australians should be able to use their super for simple things in the ordinary sequence of life.</para>
<para>Until 1992, you would have been told you were absolutely mad, absolutely stark raving bonkers, to think that it was more logical to save for your 67th birthday income than it was to save a deposit to buy your own home, because you get the benefits of buying your own home during your working life and your retirement. It's one of the foundations of economic security and one of the three pillars of retirement security. But that's not good enough for the Labor Party. They wanted to engage in a form of economic social engineering and reverse it because it helps the corrupt interests of the modern Labor movement, where they prioritise superannuation funds so that fund managers can take bigger bonuses, bigger graft and bigger components of people's superannuation money and deny Australians their capacity to buy their first home.</para>
<para>Not only are they trying to deny Australians the pathway to save for and buy their first home; it's even worse than that: they then want to use Australian superannuation money to buy homes that super funds own so they can rent them to young Australians so they can be serfs to superannuation funds. It is neofeudalism on a scale that we have never seen before, under the hysterical ideal that it is somehow advancing the interests of Australia.</para>
<para>Is the Labor Party the party of serfdom to super funds? You bet, they are! They can boast about it as much as they want in the parliament, but some of us see the con. Some of us see the trick. Some of us see the deception and some of us will never back down from calling out how much they are seeking to corrode and to eat into the foundations of the ambition and the dreams of the next generation of Australians to simply feed the interests of their friends.</para>
<para>Superannuation is a choice. Just to remind you, Deputy Speaker Freelander, superannuation did exist before 1992. Labor don't like to remind you of that. Before 1992, superannuation existed. And, before 1992, did you know that superannuation policies actually allowed you to cash them in to use as a deposit to buy your first home? People fundamentally understood that buying your own home was more important for your retirement security as well as your working life than having a larger balance when you turn 65, at the time, and now 67—logic! But they often deferred obligations to contribute, because people understood the biggest financial priority young Australians between the ages of about 18 and 35 had. They voted with their feet. People understood the most important thing you could do for your long term and your working life and your retirement financial security was to own your own home.</para>
<para>But, of course, when young Australians own their own home, guess what happens? They're proud, they're independent, they're more likely to go on and form families and be the foundation of the success of this country. They're more likely to start small businesses, lean into the future with confidence, own a share of this nation, want to defend it and conserve its great traditions and its values, and that's the one thing that directly assaults the progressive madness of the modern Labor Party. So they must attack it at its foundations at every step.</para>
<para>At the moment you see the insanity of the modern Labor project in their approach to housing and to superannuation. The modern insanity is where Labor likes to chuck an increasingly large chunk of young Australians' wages into a fund they control or their mates control, for their 67th birthday. Their answer to why young Australians can't afford to buy their own home, because Labor have deliberately and maliciously taken their wages and thrown them into the future in a way only they can access and control, is and then to say: 'The government should come along and own your home. We'll be the solution. The government should come in and invest in it.'</para>
<para>They're building out their control over homeownership while also increasing their control, because that's what the modern Labor project is. The modern Labor project is to control Australians. It doesn't matter what it is; from birth to death, they want to control you. They want to control education so they can indoctrinate the next generation of Australians to think that the state is their parents. They want to control the first job and the first opportunity young Australians get so they can control their career pathways and then go on and dictate to them how they save, how they use their wealth and how they're in a position to be able one day to go and secure their retirement. They want to take control of your wealth so they can then go on and decide and determine whether or not you own your own home, and their preference is that, if you are not in state sponsored housing, you are renting from their friends in super funds so that you are serfs to a super fund.</para>
<para>Then, of course, their preference is that they also control your working life by making sure that you're part of the organised labour system, and, if you choose not to be part of that system and take the diktat from organised unions and organised working organisations, you're shunned and isolated and you're not on the taxpayer's teat or you're not able to get the corrupt kickbacks and cartels that are part of the modern system that we see every day through the press reports of the CFMEU. Then, of course, when you get to retirement, all their questions are about how they impose more cost, more obligations and more responsibility at a time of your life when you can no longer earn an income, because their only pathway is to harvest anything that you have saved and sacrificed to get ahead.</para>
<para>That is the Labor project. The Labor project is about how they control Australians. But don't worry. To the children in the gallery who want hope and opportunity, I say there is a better way—a better way young Australians can control their money, their ambition and their destiny. It is the Liberal way, because we believe that young Australians can own their own home, control their income, control their super and control their destiny. We believe in backing Australians and any Australian who wants to back themselves. That is the lived ambition of the Liberal dream—a nation of 26 million people standing on their own two feet, appealing to their best hopes and aspiring to something better not just for themselves but for their families and their communities.</para>
<para>When we talk about a bill like this, what we're talking about is whether Australians own their own money or not, whether they control their own money or not and whether they can then go on and use their own money or not. But, of course, the Labor Party is not interested in achieving that. Their motivation and their objective is how they get as much money as possible into the funds they and their mates control, because, when they get that money into those funds, they can then use it for the cartel kickbacks to the unions that can then be kicked back into the campaign coffers of the Labor Party so they can sit in the chamber and then go on and vote for more money. It is the circle of cartel kickback life.</para>
<para>It's almost like the opening of the movie <inline font-style="italic">The Lion King</inline>. It's so perverse it's beautiful, because, literally, the mafia could not design a system with such legality and seemingly such lawful sanction as that circle of life. Labor Party MPs get elected. They vote for more income to go into industry super funds. Industry super funds give, through marketing expenses, more cartel kickbacks to unions. Unions donate to the Labor Party to campaign to get elected to this chamber and keep repeating the circle, the cartel kickback circle of life. That is the labour movement, whereas we look at it and say: how do young Australians earn their own money, own their own destiny and control their own future? That's what we believe in, so, when we want young Australians to have their super fund, we want them to own their own destiny.</para>
<para>When you look at this bill, you should be able to say that it's your money. You should control it and it should be paid with your wages. We look at it and see an empowerment for you, but we want to make sure that it doesn't impoverish small businesses on the road towards that future. One of the things the Labor Party doesn't care about is small business. With the greatest of respect, they managed to come up with a minister responsible for small business, but we know she has no say at the cabinet table. Because they're not part of the right faction or they're not part of the right union or they're not part of the right state—whatever it is—many ministers who might have something worthwhile to say are silenced on the issues that matter to the future direction of this country, and we know that from this legislation. The government's own advice from the Treasury was that this bill needed 18 months to be implemented so that small businesses didn't go broke, because there is no super on jobs that don't exist when a small business collapses. We already have record insolvencies for small business in this country. We already have the lowest private sector jobs growth in the history of this country. We already have, nationwide, eight out of 10 jobs being created only because of taxpayer revenue. This government is fuelling inflation in the process. It's using debt to finance expenditure today to prop up job numbers, which is fuelling inflation, which means Australians are paying higher interest rates because of this government's reckless fiscal policy. They pretend their economic program is working when, in fact, it is failing and fuelling inflation today. Every Australian is paying for the consequences of this reckless Labor government and its reckless spending program, and they're paying it through higher interest rates, today.</para>
<para>One of the worst things we could see is small businesses collapsing because the government simply won't implement this reform with enough lead time to help small businesses adjust. Deputy Speaker Young, I know you understand small business, because you've been in it yourself. When you're waiting for revenue to come in—and sometimes people aren't paying you as fast as they want, whether it is the Commonwealth, the state government, a big business or another small business who are waiting to be paid themselves—you have to finance costs from your own account. So often, small-business people, who are aspiring to get ahead and back others, have had to find ways to make sure that their staff are paid on time. They always pay their staff before they pay themselves—always. And that is always something that's lost on this government; it doesn't care. And the same goes with super. Enabling small business the breathing space to find their pathway to conform with the law has been met by the Labor Party with: 'Stuff them. That doesn't matter.'</para>
<para>We know from public reports produced by some of the biggest payroll companies in the world, like MYOB—companies that so many small businesses depend on—that 22.6 per cent of businesses are at risk of insolvency. And they are not just at risk of insolvency in terms of going to ASIC and saying, 'We can't do this anymore.' Not only can that potentially deny the people who run those businesses their future economic success and their capacity to afford their own superannuation. But what goes with that, if those companies go down and those small businesses go down, is their existing employees and, of course, their superannuation and their wages.</para>
<para>Small businesses are the starting gate of opportunity for so many young Australians. It is the first step on the ladder of economic opportunity. Small business jobs are often the first gateway to full participation in the Australian economy—the participation that we want. It is where young Australians get the skills, the training, the knowledge and the enculturation into a business environment. It is where they find their hunger, their thirst, their ambition and their dreams. When that's suffocated because Labor simply don't care—Labor's objective prioritises getting as much money as possible into super funds so that their mates can pay off cartel kickbacks and pay their fund managers bigger bonuses at the expense of small businesses—they are trading off the ambitions and the dreams of young Australians to feed themselves. It's not just immoral. It is wrong. And it's why this amendment is so important. Not only does it go to the heart of an economic transition that will help small business survive; it goes to the heart of the type of economy we want—an economy built from the foundations of enterprise, initiative and hard work rather than the socialist model of top-down corporatism and statism.</para>
<para>So, yes, we're moving this amendment because we clearly believe in it. We proudly believe in it. We believe strongly in backing small business every step of the way and in fighting for small business every step of the way. We will be unrelenting in standing up for small business every step of the way. If the government had any rational thought, they would be backing the amendment every step of the way.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:34</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr NEUMANN</name>
    <name.id>HVO</name.id>
    <electorate>Blair</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I've never heard such tosh and nonsense from those opposite. The member for Goldstein thinks he's a member of the modern and moderate Liberal Party. Just that speech: railing against public or state education, claiming it controls children, and the idea that somehow superannuation—and I'll use the words he used about superannuation—is malicious, that there is denial and corruption, cartels and kickbacks, all associated with superannuation. So, when you take your superannuation at the end of your hard earning and working life and realise that it has been a Labor government that has helped you to gain your dignified and financially secure retirement, know that those opposite, in my 18 years of parliament, never once supported a superannuation guarantee increase. They delayed it again and again. The member calls superannuation 'neo-feudalism'. What nonsense! It's absolute rubbish!</para>
<para>Those opposite would have more credibility in their view on the Treasury Laws Amendment (Payday Superannuation) Bill 2025 if they had supported any of the housing reforms of the Labor government, such as the $43 billion Homes for Australia plan. Those opposite spent nearly 10 years in government and did nothing on housing—could barely find a housing minister to represent the portfolio. And when it came to the reforms on housing that we initiated, they voted against them. So, they've got this false dichotomy between housing and superannuation.</para>
<para>We want homes for Australia. More than 4,000 people in my electorate have benefited from the home guarantee five per cent. Those opposite, the Liberal and National parties, opposed it. And 55,000 social and affordable houses being built under our programs: those opposite, the Liberal and National parties, opposed it, as well as the Help to Buy Scheme and the 45 per cent increase in rent assistance. Those opposite, the Liberal and National parties, opposed these things, again and again.</para>
<para>So, don't come in here and give us lectures on your newfound concern about the housing difficulties of this country when you oppose it. This legislation that we're putting forward is about ensuring that superannuation is paid.</para>
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    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>201906</name.id>
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  <para>The member for Moncrieff on a point of order?</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Ms Bell</name>
    <name.id>282981</name.id>
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  <para>The member should direct his comments through you, Mr Chair, not directly across the chamber.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr NEUMANN</name>
    <name.id>HVO</name.id>
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  <para>I'm directing them through the chair—of course I am—but I'm addressing the claims of those opposite. That's exactly what they're doing. They claim, for example, that there's a trade-off between housing and superannuation. They have failed to address this bill. Not once did the member for Goldstein address the substance of this bill—not once in 15 minutes.</para>
<para>This is about making sure that superannuation is paid on time, with people's wages, so they can get their superannuation when they get their salary. I think that's fair. I think if you walked down Riverlink Shopping Centre in Ipswich and asked people shopping in Kmart, or in the food court, they'd say it was a good thing, the right thing to do. And this legislation is another proud Labor reform. It means more super for workers. Yet those opposite, the Liberal and National parties, oppose it—once again.</para>
<para>We've already implemented a number of reforms to strengthen the superannuation system over the term of this government, including paying superannuation on government-funded paid parental leave and increasing the superannuation guarantee to 12 per cent. Only a Labor government has done that. Reaching 12 per cent was a signature policy, built on decades of reforms by Labor governments. Now we're pursuing additional reforms of superannuation.</para>
<para>By the way, once again we heard a speech from those opposite showing the divisions between the major political parties in this country. Superannuation is one. Universal health care is another. Public or state education is another, as well as people's rights at work. The subject of this bill is superannuation, and this is yet again a demonstration of why the public's vote matters when it comes to people's financial and economic security and dignity in retirement.</para>
<para>Payday superannuation is a once-in-a-generation reform that aims to tackle unpaid superannuation, creating a better system for workers and employers alike. We know that for too long too many workers have waited months to receive all their superannuation entitlement. It's been estimated that 3.3 million Australians missed out on $5.7 billion in super in 2022-23, losing on average $1,730 each year, based on analysis of the latest ATO data. It is simply not true to say that every employer pays superannuation when they should or on time. It is simply untrue, yet the member for Goldstein made that claim in the House of Representatives. It is simply untrue. And the workers of this country, young people in particular, know that's not true. There have been many parents listening to this debate who would know that their daughter or son has come to them and said, 'Mum or dad, I got paid my wages, but I didn't get paid super.' Not every employer does the right thing.</para>
<para>The member for Goldstein railed and said that we never support small business. I established a small business. I built a small business with the hard work, effort and cooperation of my employees, and my partners, shareholders and directors later on. I know what it's like to build a business. I know the challenges and the difficulties, but you've got to do the right thing. You pay your wages on time, and you should pay your superannuation on time. In my outer-suburban and regional seat of Blair, unpaid super costs 27,800 local workers. That's 31 per cent—nearly one in three—of the local workforce, and it cost them $1,770 each, on average, or a combined $49.1 million in 2022-23. So it's simply untrue to say that all employers pay their superannuation on time or do to right thing. Over six years, from 2017-18 to 2022-23, unpaid superannuation steadily grew around the country. In my electorate, it cost workers a total of $185.9 million in underpayments.</para>
<para>This reform will benefit thousands of workers in my community and boost the retirement incomes of millions of Australians. It's a signature Labor legislation. It's about ensuring superannuation is delivered on time and people can have secure and dignified retirement. It's part of our commitment to making sure people earn more, keep more of what they earn and retire with more. If you listened to those opposite, you would think they want people to retire with less. At the passage of this legislation, employers will be required to pay their employees' superannuation on payday, at the same time as their salary and wages, in line with every pay cycle rather than quarterly. This simple, practical change will mean more frequent contributions, earlier compounding returns and stronger retirement balances for millions of Australians.</para>
<para>The bill does three things. From 1 July 2026 it will require employers to ensure superannuation contributions are received by the employee's fund within seven business days of payday, or they will be liable for the superannuation guarantee charge. There are a number of types of superannuation, just as there are different types of toothpaste and cars. There are industry funds, retail funds, different fund managers and different names of superannuation schemes and policies in this country. But to label all fund managers as corrupt and part of a cartel, like the member for Goldstein did, is simply wrong. It is just erroneous to do that. This reform will strengthen Australia's superannuation scheme, make employees receive their superannuation contributions more often and help reduce unpaid super. Paying the superannuation contribution more frequently will mean that employees can track their entitlements more expeditiously and helps employers improve their payroll management. This change is part of a broader government initiative to boost retirement savings.</para>
<para>Secondly, the legislation will help the Australian Taxation Office enforce the law and more quickly identify employers not making contributions. It therefore strengthens the scheme. It means as well that the ATO will receive additional resourcing to help detect unpaid super payments earlier, and the government will set enhanced targets for the ATO for the recovery of those payments. As part of this, the ATO will draw on single-touch payroll data, which employers already report, and match it with data from super funds to detect missing payments in near-real time.</para>
<para>Thirdly, the bill will update the superannuation guarantee charge, which is the penalty employers face when they fail to pay super on time. Under the new framework, the super guarantee charge will apply for each payday an employer fails to pay super in full and on time. This will allow the charge to better target employer behaviour and ensure employees are compensated for delays, including through notional earnings and penalties. These are simple, commonsense changes that will strengthen our system. Workers will receive what they are legally owed. Employees will benefit from earlier and more frequent contributions. Around nine million Australians will benefit from higher retirement savings from receiving their superannuation guarantee contributions earlier and more frequently. On average this will deliver an extra $7,700 per working Australian by retirement, because being paid super sooner helps to grow people's retirement eggs much faster, thanks to the benefit of compound interest.</para>
<para>Now, let's look at the example of a 25-year-old median-income earner, say a hospitality worker at the Orion Springfield Central shopping centre in my electorate, currently receiving their superannuation quarterly and their wages fortnightly. With payday superannuation, the super fund will get it sooner, meaning higher earnings for the worker over their working life. It could see them being $6,000, or 1.5 per cent, better off at retirement, from the compounding benefits of super being paid more frequently.</para>
<para>The reality is that this issue disproportionately affects more vulnerable Australians, particularly women and younger workers, who are most at risk of a power imbalance in the workplace and more likely to miss out on their super when employers do the wrong thing. Among the hardest hit are women, who on average are already retiring with a quarter less super than men. Younger workers and low-income earners are also at risk, with one in two workers who earn under $25,000 a year having unpaid super entitlements and with almost half of all people reporting unpaid super to the ATO being under 35 years of age. That's the power imbalance that I talked about.</para>
<para>The changes in this bill will particularly benefit young people working in retail and hospitality and those in low-paid, casual and insecure work, who are more likely to miss out when super is paid less frequently. It will help thousands of these workers in my electorate. When a worker misses out on their super altogether, it can have profound impacts, with losses continuing to compound, leaving them with tens of thousands of dollars less in their pocket at retirement. It means a less secure and less dignified retirement, financially.</para>
<para>For example, an average 35-year-old worker—say someone at Riverlink Shopping Centre, in my electorate, working in hospitality or retail—with unpaid superannuation will be $30,000 poorer at retirement. When employers go bust, the impact is even worse. For an average 35-year-old working in the private sector, a liquidated business could leave their retirement balance more than $90,000 worse off in today's dollar terms. The security of retirement is really important, but if the business you're working for goes into administration or liquidation, it's a big problem to claim your superannuation.</para>
<para>Importantly, payday super will boost transparency for workers, particularly young people, who typically assume that their super is being paid with their wages and that people are doing the right thing. It will be much easier and faster not only for the ATO to detect and fix underpayments but also for employers and employees in the workplace to keep track of what's going on. It means they'll be able to consult with one another further.</para>
<para>Treasury and the ATO will continue to consult closely with industry—and they have done so, by the way, contrary to what the previous speaker said. The ATO has advised that it intends to consult on its approach and compliance for 12 months after the changes start and will seek to differentiate between low- and high-risk employers.</para>
<para>This legislation is important. It will make the superannuation system fairer, from top to bottom. It will mean a better deal and more superannuation for low-income workers, and I reckon that's a pretty good thing for the economy and for the people who work in my electorate.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:49</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms SHARKIE</name>
    <name.id>265980</name.id>
    <electorate>Mayo</electorate>
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  <para>The $4 trillion Australian superannuation system is, overall, I think, a success. It covers around 90 per cent of workers, allowing them to plan for financial independence in their retirement; it makes financial capital available for large-scale investment in Australian infrastructure and enterprise; and it reduces some of the costs of age pensions for taxpayers. The better the superannuation system, the less we need to draw down for the age pension. So looking after workers is the right thing to do, and effective super policy does make good economic sense.</para>
<para>Notwithstanding this success, many constituents over the years have approached me because they have not been paid their superannuation entitlements. In fact, it has shocked me over the years—the people who have approached me. It's been very difficult for them, particularly if they are still with that employer, to raise this issue, and they're not alone. According to the Super Members Council, unpaid super is costing working Australians $110 million a week. In 2021-22, 2.8 million Australians missed out on $5.1 billion in superannuation entitlements. The Super Members Council's latest figures show unpaid super has grown to $5.7 billion a year.</para>
<para>This affects more men than women, as they work in industries and occupations with higher rates of underpayment and, on average, make more income than women. But the impact on women is often more acute, as they often have lower super balances going into retirement. Blue-collar workers in construction, trades and transport are most likely to miss out—and I've certainly heard from many mechanics and those working in factories in my community that have experienced this—with 41 per cent of labourers experiencing unpaid super. In other industries which experience high rates of business insolvencies, unpaid super is also more common. Retail trade and accommodation and food services have also been found by the ATO to be of high risk in recent years. The average worker will miss out on around $26,000 in super for women and $36,000 for men at retirement due to the effects of unpaid super and that compounding loss over time. My electorate of Mayo has actually been one of the worst affected communities for this, with the highest average underpayment of any South Australian electorate, totalling $33 million in superannuation debt. That affects over 19,500 workers, with an average underpayment of $1,690 per person.</para>
<para>Unpaid super allows non-compliant businesses to compete on an uneven playing field with those who pay their workers' entitlements and pay them on time. This bill will require employers to meet key obligations to accurately calculate employees' individual superannuation guarantee and the quantifying earnings; make contributions before the end of the seventh business day after payment of those earnings, or 14 days for a new employee; and comply with the employee's choice of fund. These reforms will go some way to protect employees by ensuring superannuation is paid in real time and not months later—or, indeed, perhaps not at all. It will reduce the unpaid debts that accumulate before some employers collapse or restructure, and it will empower the Australian Taxation Office to assess and recover unpaid superannuation more promptly. It will also hold directors accountable through stronger penalties for systematic noncompliance.</para>
<para>I think it must be said that the vast majority of employers in Australia do the right thing, and I think nearly every employer in Australia does want to do the right thing. It is going to make a big difference to workers like my constituent Katherine in the future. Earlier this year, Katherine's employer terminated her employment and that of several of her colleagues. They were told by the business that, while it was not currently able to pay their entitlements, they would be paid in full. After weeks of seeking payment of their entitlements, Katherine and her former colleagues contacted the Fair Work Ombudsman. Their former employer advised the ombudsman that they would be paid within the week, but they were not. They made complaints to the Australian Taxation Office regarding their unpaid wages and superannuation owed. Katherine is trying to maintain hope, but they remain in limbo, as the former employer, which is an NDIS registered provider, still continues to trade but says that it lacks the funds to pay their entitlements. With the passage of this payday superannuation bill, it will be much harder for Katherine's former employer, or others like it, to get into this situation in the first place. Employers will not be allowed to accumulate a superannuation debt under the radar because they will be required to pay within the seven days after pay day, rather than quarterly. Employees and, importantly, the ATO will become aware sooner if superannuation payments are not being paid into their fund.</para>
<para>There have been concerns raised that employers may not have enough time to deploy, test and implement changes pre-commencement of this act, particularly system changes. I absolutely appreciate that the timeline is tight—eight months from passage to commencement—and some challenges may remain that need to be addressed. I absolutely have sympathy for some businesses, particularly small businesses, who are worried about this additional compliance burden. We know this has been coming for some time; it was flagged in the 2023-24 budget. It must be said that workers have been waiting at a collective cost to them of over $5 billion a year in unpaid super. I feel that that loss must be addressed. I understand the ATO's first-year compliance approach will allow some leniency during this initial period for low to medium at-risk employers who are genuinely trying to make efforts to comply; I understand that this is genuinely the case.</para>
<para>For too long I have been raising concerns about unpaid superannuation. In fact, in 2017 in this place I introduced a private member's bill called the Fair Work Amendment (Recovering Unpaid Superannuation) Bill. My bill would have improved notification requirements of payment, or indeed nonpayment, for employers and superannuation funds and included superannuation within the National Employment Standards, providing more avenues for employees to pursue their unpaid superannuation debts. That bill contained other measures, including the ability for employers to claim salary-sacrificing super as if they were employer superannuation contributions—we needed to get that removed—and an exemption allowing employers to not make superannuation contributions to employees when they earn less than $450 in wages each month. I'm glad those issues have been addressed.</para>
<para>It's really important that we provide employees with every avenue we can to try and recover their super. In my experience, when I've seen notifications from employees who have tried to use the ATO to recover funds, it has not always been very successful. It's very important that we look to include superannuation in the National Employment Standards. This would mean that most employers would have that access rather than relying on the ATO to do that debt recovery. I remember seeing one form from the ATO when a constituent was owed several thousand dollars. The ATO recovered something like $2.50, an absolutely nominal amount, and said, 'We've made a recovery and we're closing the case.' We need to have a much, much better system; perhaps that's more people working in the ATO on this issue of superannuation and debt recovery, which is what it is. It makes it very, very difficult. I've heard from apprentice hairdressers, from hairdressers who are qualified hairdressers and have been in the industry for a long time, from mechanics and from people who work in retail. In some cases, they've been working at businesses that are very, very well-known businesses in my community. The level of unpaid superannuation that exists in our nation has shocked me.</para>
<para>In 2021, only 17 per cent, or under $1 billion, of unpaid superannuation guaranteed entitlements were recovered from $4.7 billion total of unpaid super. The 2022 Australian National Audit Office report into superannuation guarantee noncompliance found that the ATO's use of the framework was only partially effective. While 9,594 fines were issued in the 2021 period by the ATO, only 43 per cent of them required a business to pay a penalty above the unpaid amount, and less than one per cent included the maximum 200 per cent penalty. And the burden of reporting remains with workers, who report 78 per cent of recoveries, with automated detection by the ATO remaining very, very low. We need prompt and proactive compliance. Recovery action really is the best chance for people to get that super back into their balance, because we need that interest to compound. Further work will be needed in future on recovery of entitlements for workers in cases where there's business insolvency. Super entitlements are usually last in line after wages and business debts—they're certainly well behind secured debts—with ASIC data showing that, in 2022-23, 15 per cent of insolvency cases involved unpaid wages but 45 per cent of cases involved unpaid superannuation.</para>
<para>Just this week the <inline font-style="italic">Herald</inline><inline font-style="italic"> Sun</inline> reported that 200 workers for a disability provider will be missing out on their unpaid super following the company's collapse. It is reported that 174 staff are due a total of $264,000 in unpaid superannuation contributions, with the company having 74 unsecured creditors owed $330,000 and a net bank balance of $3,000. While unpaid wages, along with leave and redundancy pay, can be claimed under the Fair Entitlements Guarantee—the Australian government's compensation scheme of last resort—in cases where there's a business insolvency, the Fair Entitlements Guarantee does not at present cover superannuation. I think that it really should so that, in cases such as this, workers will be looked after by the FEG in terms of their superannuation entitlements. It sends a very clear message that superannuation is as important as wages.</para>
<para>I call on the government to take that next step and to consider amending the Fair Entitlements Guarantee to include superannuation guarantee contributions aligned with the ability to claim unpaid wages. I understand how businesses can get behind. Wages and super are some of the largest expenses that businesses experience. But we need to ensure that workers receive the entitlements they are absolutely entitled to have. This is part of their salary and it must be paid, and that is the long and short of it.</para>
<para>I want this bill to succeed in order to prevent more of my constituents being blindsided by unpaid superannuation. Often it's a year or so before they realise that they're not getting paid superannuation—just like my constituent, Katherine. I don't want to hear from more employees who are struggling, particularly those who haven't been able to find other work and are still in that workplace, having to have those very difficult conversations with their employers about why their superannuation hasn't been paid. I commend the bill to the House.</para>
<para> <inline font-style="italic">The House</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> of Representatives</inline> <inline font-style="italic"> transcript was published up to </inline> <inline font-style="italic">12:02</inline> <inline font-style="italic">. The remainder of the transcript will be published progressively as it is completed.</inline></para>
<para>The DEPUTY SPEAKER ( Ms Lawrence ) took the chair at 09:30.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:30</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms SHARKIE</name>
    <name.id>265980</name.id>
    <electorate>Mayo</electorate>
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  <para>I'm going to give some wonderful speeches now that I didn't write; they were written by young people in my community as part of the Raise Our Voice in Parliament campaign. The question young people were asked this year is: 'What steps should the government take to build a better tomorrow for young Australians?' The young people in my community have not disappointed.</para>
<para>Scarlett, who is 11 years old, said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Healthcare is a concern for young Australians but effects all of us. 1 in 4 Australians struggle with accessing healthcare.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">The government should make a change because it will earn them more money and save them money.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">When you're not sick you're probably at work to earn money, and lots of that money would most likely go into the economy.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">It will save the government money because having healthcare will mean that people will get illnesses or diseases addressed before it turns into a big problem.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That's good because it keeps more people out of hospital so they're saving money on our hospitals.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">About 46% of Australians have put treatment off due to cost.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That's why I believe that the government should increase the amount of bulk-billing doctors in Australia.</para></quote>
<para>Samuel and Izaac are 10-year-olds, and I met them recently at their beautiful school in Aldinga. They said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">To the Honourable Members of Parliament</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">There are many ways the government can support young Australians to have a better future. Living costs are so high. Petrol costs are so high. Our parents are struggling to pay for our needs.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">It would help to lower taxes and find another way of making money to pay for government services.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">You could also lower the tax on petrol, making it cheaper, which would mean Supermarkets would not have to increase their prices as they are not paying high transport costs.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">We could get wealthy companies to pay more tax and individuals to pay less tax.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Thank you for listening to our voice.</para></quote>
<para>And 11-year-old Carson talked about supporting small local businesses. He said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Imagine a future where every single child in Australia lives in a thriving community, with access to shops and essential amenities.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">By investing in and supporting local businesses, our government has the opportunity to empower young people with access to local communities and jobs.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">It would be a successful and profitable step for the government to support and take action in strengthening local businesses, so they can thrive.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">In turn, more taxes could be generated, creating a stronger Australia and a brighter future.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Imagine a future where everyone has easy access to local businesses, where people don't have to drive kilometres upon kilometres just for a simple carton of milk. The future of Australia rests in its small towns. Let's make the future happen today!</para></quote>
<para>Thank you to those wonderful young people, and congratulations to Ashleigh Streeter-Jones, the founder and CEO, who has created a wonderful program for our young people right across Mayo and Australia.</para>
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    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>299150</name.id>
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  <para>My thanks to the students contributing those thoughts as well.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:33</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms PLIBERSEK</name>
    <name.id>83M</name.id>
    <electorate>Sydney</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Forty years ago, in the midst of a health crisis, a group of volunteers came together to fight for their lives and the lives of others. It was the beginning of ACON, the AIDS Council of NSW, formed in 1985 under the banner Fighting for Our Lives. From that meeting at the New South Wales Teachers Federation hall grew a movement that would defined Australia's HIV responsible decades to come.</para>
<para>Back then HIV was devastating our community. There was fear, stigma and silence, but ACON spoke up. They educated, they cared and they campaigned. They saved lives. Within two years, ACON of opened its first office in Surrey Hills and established branches in the Hunter, Illawarra and Northern Rivers to reach regional communities.</para>
<para>From organising the Make AZT Available rally to helping draft Australians first national AIDS strategy, ACON made sure the community had a voice on the table, while, on the ground, volunteers distributed safe-sex packs from Oxford Street bars and established one of the first community-run counselling services for people living with HIV.</para>
<para>Through the 1990s, as antiretroviral therapies offered hope for the first time, ACON adapted its services to support people living longer with HIV and to address new health challenges: mental health, addiction and community safety.</para>
<para>The launch of the Ending HIV campaign in 2013 and ACON's leadership on PrEP rapid testing and U=U—that's undetectable equals untransmissible—were campaigns I was proud to back, and they've brought us within reach of eliminating HIV transmissions entirely in Australia, something I am convinced that we can achieve as a nation.</para>
<para>Over the years, ACON's had lots of great programs: Fun & Esteem, one of the world's first peer education initiatives for gay men; Pride in Diversity; and Pride in Sport; the Red Ribbon Appeal in 2008. All of these were organised and pursued by incredible volunteers, like the late Betty Hounslow, and those volunteers from 1985 who met fear with courage.</para>
<para>As health minister, I was proud to support the efforts of ACON. I know that this parliament has long recognised that inclusive health policy saves lives. I say to the current leadership of ACON, under the absolutely marvellous Michael Woodhouse, that I know that ACON will continue to be a voice for compassion and courage in our community and will continue to deliver, because it's pride, not prejudice, that will guide our future.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Aged Care</title>
          <page.no>45</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:35</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms WATSON-BROWN</name>
    <name.id>300127</name.id>
    <electorate>Ryan</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Fifty dollars for a shower: that's what some older people are going to be paying under the government 's new aged-care legislation coming in, in a couple of days. This results from a deal made last year between Labor and the coalition to protect for-profit providers, making life even harder for older people and their families.</para>
<para>At least 50 per cent of older people will pay more for care from 1 November, including 30 per cent of full pensioners and 75 per cent of part-pensioners. The scheme includes co-payments for non-clinical care. These are essential services like help with showering, cooking and laundry, as though these services were some kind of luxury. How cruel.</para>
<para>One in three big corporations in Australia is getting away with paying no tax, but, instead of going after them, Labor is going after older people, who've worked hard and paid their taxes all their lives—older people, just trying to get the care they deserve and that they need to survive.</para>
<para>To add insult to this government-imposed injury, 200,000 people—a huge waitlist—are just trying to access home-care packages. The enormity of this waitlist was kept secret by the government until it was uncovered by a Greens-chaired Senate inquiry. People who urgently need this care are waiting years—I've heard from so many locals in Ryan—to access the care that they need. Shamefully, tragically, people will die while they wait. I'm ashamed. All Australian should be and should stand up against this institutionalised maltreatment by our government.</para>
<para>Well, the Greens are standing up. We eventually forced the government to release 20,000 home-care packages early, but that was clearly not nearly enough to clear that full waitlist. If you, your parents or grandparents are in a nursing home, these changes from 1 November will affect you too. They make things easier for for-profit aged-care providers and far harder—far harder—for care residents. These changes will now allow providers to keep part of that refundable accommodation deposit, which had previously been returned to relatives when the resident passed away.</para>
<para>Under this rather dirty deal with the coalition, Labor also removed proposed criminal penalties for providers that do the wrong thing, and this comes after the royal commission into aged care exposed absolutely appalling behaviour by providers. They need to be kept accountable. If you're in my electorate of Ryan, listening to this speech and affected by these changes, I want to hear from you. Please contact my office.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Truman, Ms Elizabeth Robyn</title>
          <page.no>45</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:38</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms MILLER-FROST</name>
    <name.id>296272</name.id>
    <electorate>Boothby</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise to pay my respects to Elizabeth Robyn Truman, nee Harvey—known to her friends and family and colleagues as Liz—who died on 24 May 2025. Liz was the second member for Hawker, an electorate now largely absorbed by Boothby. She was the second Labor woman to be elected to the federal House of Representatives from South Australia as a member of the Hawke Labor government between 1987 and 1990.</para>
<para>But her legacy within the party was much longer, most notably as a member of the Women's Policy Committee, campaigning for better representation for women. I'm sure she would have been ecstatic that the ALP now has a majority female caucus in federal parliament. We truly stand on the shoulders of legends like Liz. Liz was a compassionate and dedicated local member. She spoke in her first speech of the importance of social housing, support for Vietnam veterans, single parents, people with disability and women escaping domestic violence. Interestingly, in April 1989, she issued a press release entitled 'Councils must plan for greenhouse effect,' talking about the impact on coastal communities of sea level rises, higher tides, storm damage, as well as changes in rainfall patterns, flooding and soil erosion—things we're starting to see now. Liz lost the 1990 election by 14 votes, which must have been heartbreaking.</para>
<para>Liz was known to her family and friends as an incredibly intelligent and creative woman who had a talent for languages, a passion for dance, loved to travel and, beyond anything, loved to teach. Her original career choice was ballet dancer, but, after leaving Adelaide High School, she received a University of Adelaide scholarship where she completed a BA and then a diploma in secondary teaching from Adelaide Teachers College. She taught languages at Elizabeth High School and was then selected for a pioneering 'English as a second language' intensive college at Gilles Street Primary School.</para>
<para>Liz's flair for language and her interest in culture led her to live and travel around the world, teaching in Madrid and Oman, living in Argentina, Patagonia and travelling through Europe and the Middle East. She turned her creative flair and experience in parliament into a series of stories, originally published online as 'Snowflakes Hope' and then as 'The Glasshouse Effect'. I've been unable to locate a copy of the book; however, I believe it included profiles of Bob Hawke, Paul Keating, John Button, Neal Blewett and Barry Jones, as well as a very unflattering description of the typical senator. She did, however, say that she changed some names to protect the guilty—the mind boggles.</para>
<para>Liz is much missed by her partner, Peter; her sons, Stephen and Tom; her grandchildren, Maxwell, Florence and Oliver; her stepchildren, Matt, Jon and Ali and their families; as well as her sister, Verity, a former colleague of mine. Vale, Liz.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Western Australia: Health Care</title>
          <page.no>46</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:41</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr HASTIE</name>
    <name.id>260805</name.id>
    <electorate>Canning</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>():  Let me speak plainly. My region's local hospital, the Peel Health Campus, is in crisis, and WA Labor has failed us. Back in 2020, we were promised by the then Labor premier, Mark McGowan, $152 million to upgrade the hospital. That was five years ago. Since then, nothing—no new wards, no new beds, no progress, just spin, delay and excuses. I fought for this upgrade from day 1. I've raised it in parliament—not once, not twice. This will be the sixteenth time I've stood in our national parliament to call on WA Labor to deliver for this hospital. I've stood with doctors, nurses, healthcare workers, patients and families. I've launched petitions, held community meetings and demanded answers—because I know how important this hospital is to the region. But, despite all that, things have only gotten worse. This year alone, ambulances have been ramped outside the Peel Health Campus for over 1,000 hours. That's 1,000 hours of patients waiting for urgent care. It's 1,000 hours of paramedics stuck at hospitals, unable to hand over patients. It's 1,000 hours of lives at risk. It also means fewer ambulances available to react and to get to emergencies in our community.</para>
<para>Now we learn that the cost of the upgrade has blown out to $558 million, more than three times the original budget. That's a $400 million blowout—and still no clear timeline for delivery. This cost blowout is so massive that it threatens to chew through nearly the entire $500 million health infrastructure fund that Labor announced, leaving little for any other hospitals across Western Australia. Now we know the inside story. A leaked letter from a senior Peel Health Campus staff member to the federal health minister revealed the truth—compromised patient care, overwhelmed nurses and a system under strain. Where is our local member?</para>
<para class="italic"> <inline font-style="italic">A division having been called in the House of Representatives—</inline></para>
<para>Sitting suspended from 09:43 to 09:58</para>
<continue>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr HASTIE</name>
    <name.id>260805</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I asked the question: where is our local Labor MP for Mandurah, Rhys Williams? He has disappeared into a void of silence on this issue. He's admitted the budget isn't enough, but has done nothing to fight for us. We don't hear his voice. He's silent and WA Labor continue to fail us, so we've had enough and we're going to pursue this money. Labor keeps pointing to the same line in the budget year after year, but money in a spreadsheet means nothing if it doesn't leave the page. So we want action. We're not going to let this government pat themselves on the back, because patients are walking away from the emergency department because they simply can't wait any longer. Our healthcare workers are doing their best, but they're stretched to the breaking point. The fault with this hospital lies solely with WA Labor, who promised an upgrade and haven't delivered. We want action. We want it now. We'll make sure that we deliver accountability.</para>
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</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Akueng, Dau, Achiek, Chol</title>
          <page.no>47</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>09:59</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr RAE</name>
    <name.id>300122</name.id>
    <electorate>Hawke</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to speak about two boys: Dau Akueng, aged 15, and Chol Achiek, aged 12. Their lives were tragically taken on 6 September in Cobblebank. Both were bright, talented and deeply loved. Their loss has left a profound void in the hearts of their families, their friends and our community.</para>
<para>Dau grew up in Fitzroy and Collingwood before moving to Melton, where he attended Staughton College. He dreamed of becoming a basketball star and was an active member of the Collingwood Basketball Association. He was the only son of Sabena and Elbino and a loving brother to Ayana, Anok and Atong. His uncle, Akolda Bil, remembered him as a happy, energetic boy who brought joy to everyone around him, especially his late grandmother. He was a gentle leader in his family, looking out for his sisters, and surrounded by a big, loving community. His service at Resurrection Catholic Church in Kings Park drew hundreds of mourners, coming together to celebrate a young life that shone very brightly.</para>
<para>Chol grew up in Melton and attended Melton Secondary College. He loved swimming, music and basketball and was an active member of the Nile Warriors Basketball Club. He was the son of Ayen and Chuti and the youngest of seven children. His father described him as intelligent and warm hearted, a boy who lit up the room with his smile and his kindness. He had deep respect for elders, a gentle humour and a natural leadership that made those around him feel safe and seen. His service at St Mary's Anglican Church in Sunbury was a testament to how loved he was. He was remembered as funny, peaceful and protective of those around him.</para>
<para>No words can ease the pain felt by these families—two young lives full of promise and joy, taken far too soon. Violence has no place in our suburbs or our schools or our streets. No parent should have to face tragedies like this. Every child deserves to grow up feeling safe, supported and free to chase their dreams. I particularly acknowledge the pain felt by the South Sudanese community at this time. I've had the honour of meeting with community leaders, and I know they're working closely with Victoria Police to keep our community safe and to support our young people.</para>
<para>We owe it to Dau and to Chol and to their families to stand together, to reject violence, to invest in prevention and community connection and to build hope. We remember them for their kindness and their love of family, community and basketball. May their memories guide us as we work to build a safer, more peaceful community for every young person who calls our community home. Vale, Dau Akueng. Vale, Chol Achiek.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Vocational Education and Training</title>
          <page.no>47</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:03</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr McCORMACK</name>
    <name.id>219646</name.id>
    <electorate>Riverina</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Lovely words, Member for Hawke—we all share your pain and your local loss. May God bless both boys and take them into his safe arms.</para>
<para>Mine is a happier story—a very happy story. Paul Phillips from Forest Hill has shared a story about his lovely daughter, 34-year-old Penny MacKay, a former apprentice chef in the Riverina region who decided to dedicate her professional career to the training sector, becoming a vocational education teacher/trainer. Not only was she named 2025 Riverina regional VET Trainer/Teacher of the Year; she has gone on to receive the New South Wales state title. She now progresses to the Australian Training Awards, to be held in Darwin, in the Northern Territory, on Friday 5 December.</para>
<para>Whilst this accomplishment on its own is outstanding, what makes this story particularly unique is that Penny was joined at the regional event by her VET business services student, whom she nominated in the VET in Schools Student of the Year category and who reached the finals, and by a previous hospitality student from the year prior, who had won the regional 2024 VET in Schools Student of the Year award. As you can appreciate, this is an outstanding display of a teacher's passion for her trade and the power of vocational education within not just the region but indeed our nation. We all know that teachers are the great enablers. If you have good teachers, it can put you on the pathway to success. It opens doors for you. Obviously, Penny is not only doing great things at Kildare Catholic College but indeed providing inspiration for students and inspiration for our region.</para>
<para>I recall Penny from the 2019 training awards evening. I spoke at this. Two out of the three finalists in the VET in schools category were Penny's students. The winner, Grace Mattingly, was a business services student of Penny's. She went onto the state level. She's now successfully running two local dance studios, which are thriving not just in Wagga Wagga but indeed throughout the entire region. Grace is doing amazing things. She's only 24 years old. She describes having Penny as one of her mentors as being the motivator for her career and for the great things that she's doing and that she will go on doing. As I said, when you have good teachers, it opens up so many opportunities. So well done to Penny Mackay. Thank you to Paul Phillips for bringing that story to me—that attention about his wonderful daughter. We look forward to seeing her succeed—potentially, hopefully—at the national awards in the member for Solomon's electorate. I wish her every success both in those particular awards and in the future.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Hunter Electorate: Sport</title>
          <page.no>48</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:06</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr REPACHOLI</name>
    <name.id>298840</name.id>
    <electorate>Hunter</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The Hunter has always punched above its weight when it comes to sport. We've produced a stack of professional and elite athletes, and I want to make sure we're backing the next crop of local sporting talent, so that the next generation of superstars also comes from the Hunter.</para>
<para>But talent and determination alone aren't always enough to reach the top. Competing a high level is a high cost, and too often it's the parents digging deep into their pockets to get their kids to competitions. That is where the Local Sporting Champions program steps in. It provides financial assistance to help young people compete in, coach or umpire at the chosen sport. I know firsthand how expensive it can be when you're competing on the state and national levels or even on the international level. These small grants really do make a big difference to the athletes themselves and the parents supporting them.</para>
<para>I want to congratulate our recent local sporting champions: Lexie Phillips, who competed at the 2025 Australian Age and MC Age Championships; Ben Frost, who played in the Australian youth baseball championships; Brandon Cox, who played in the Asia Pacific Youth Touch Cup; Braydan Carlson, Jenice Hicks and Zach West, who competed at the Australian track and field championships; Brodee Sunerton, who played at the USA flag football Junior International Cup; Charlotte Campbell, Claire Godfrey, Olivia-Skye Sharp, Will Soden and Zoe Dent, who competed at the Australian junior athletics championships; Carrie Phillips and Kobi Hodges, who played at the Australian Youth Water Polo Championships; Ryan Jones and Tyson Williams, who competed at the MX motorcycle GP; Caitlin Rose, who competed at the Australian national road racing cycling championships; Jed Louis who competed at the Oceania motorcycling junior cup; Drew Kremer and Lachlan Morris, who competed in the ProMX motocross championships; Julie Brummer, who played in the hockey Australia indoor under 18s championships; Mackenzie Wills, who played in the 2025 VIRTUS World Basketball Championships; Maddie Roberts, who rode in the 2025 Pony Club Australian National Championship; Mitchell Summers who competed in the School Sport Australia athletics championship; and, finally, Sybella Pike, who played in the Australian schoolgirls rugby league championships.</para>
<para>Congratulations to all those local sporting champions. Sport has always been the heart of Hunter, and it's incredible to see so many young people from our region competing at such a high level. These competitions are important stepping stones on your pathway to achieving your dreams. Stay committed, train hard and give it your best, because you never know how far you can go. When you do make it, always know you'll have the Hunter cheering you on. I wish you all good luck in the future.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Industry</title>
          <page.no>48</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:09</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr JOYCE</name>
    <name.id>e5d</name.id>
    <electorate>New England</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>This is a constituent statement for both my area and the whole of Australia. To defend a nation, you are going to need a variety of things. You're going to need intelligence. You're going to need an air force. You're going to need a navy. You're going to need an army. And you're going to need industry. We are single-handedly destroying our capacity to defend our nation because of this bizarre cultlike approach to net zero. We had this week the announced closure of Tomago. This is disastrous for our nation, and it's a clarion call on how pathetic and ridiculous this intermittent power policy is. It is hurting Australia, and we have a duty to stand up and call this for what it actually is. What else do we need to happen? We've got Kwinana in Western Australia that's closing down. We're down to two oil refineries. Our plastics industry is gone. Our glass industry is gone. Our urea industry is gone. This is hopeless! Yet we continue on, thinking that, without the participation of the United States, China, India, South-East Asia, Africa, South America and other countries that are pulling out, Australia is single-handedly going to change the climate, no matter what you think you are doing to it.</para>
<para>We have got to ask ourselves this question: if we are put in a time of adversity, where are we going to get our plastics or our aluminium from? Our steel industry is on its knees. How are you going to turn this around? They don't give you warning that something is going to happen—that's the whole point. Surprise is a crucial element for any adversary and how they deal with you. If we do not have the supply lines, and we have to rely on another country that hasn't gone down this insane path of intermittent power and net zero—are we just totally reliant? Are we absolutely certain that that process is going to work?</para>
<para>We also now have NRG, the power plant in Gladstone, announcing that it might close. That's the aluminium industry gone. That, of course, means Gladstone is out; it means your cement industry is out. And we continue on and continue on, thinking that we are somehow going to prevail in this nation by closing down industry, shutting up farmland and spending—they talk about a trillion-plus dollars. Where are you borrowing that from? You've already got a trillion dollars in debt! Where are you borrowing the rest from? How are you going to pay this back? There's got to be, somewhere, an epiphany of logic that comes into this. But it's not happening. I heard Minister Bowen say yesterday—I couldn't believe it, 'We're making good progress.' Good progress off a cliff! Good progress to where, Minister? Where are you intending to end up? We have got to find reverse on this, or we are in dire trouble.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Victoria: Storms</title>
          <page.no>49</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:12</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms RYAN</name>
    <name.id>249224</name.id>
    <electorate>Lalor</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>On Sunday 26 October this year, Melbourne had its wettest day in 18 months, with 35 millimetres of rain recorded. On the same day, Werribee, Wyndham Vale, Hoppers Crossing and Manor Lakes saw a tornado. More than 650 calls to the state emergency services were recorded across Victoria. Wyndham SES had 184 calls, the busiest in the state, and Wyndham West had 40 calls. There were 260 buildings damaged, and 25,000 to 30,000 homes were without power. There was localised flooding in low-lying areas, and lots of families out with shovels, digging trenches to let the water out of their properties. Streets like Purchas Street in Werribee were among the worst hit: roofs and pergolas blown into power lines, widespread debris, and fallen trees and fences. Tara in Werribee described how her partner was lifted off the ground and the pergola roof landed on Tarneit Road power lines. Bridgette Boyd said the wind nearly blew her backwards. Many describe the scene as like something out of a movie: frightening, fast and destructive. Bureau of Meteorology experts confirmed a clear tornado damage track through Wyndham Vale and Hoppers Crossing with a distinct east-north-east path typical of severe thunderstorm cells—a category consistent with a small tornado, with wind speeds up to 120 kilometres per hour.</para>
<para>I want to give my heartfelt thanks to all of the emergency service responders and frontline workers who served in our community on Sunday in the clean-up, and on following days; to our State Emergency Services, Wyndham and Wyndham West, and supporting metro units; to the CFA volunteers; to Victoria Police and Fire Rescue Victoria; to Ambulance Victoria crews and first responders; to Wyndham City Council staff for rapid debris cleaning and resident welfare checks; and to Powercor and utility workers, who restored power to thousands of homes. Their tireless work, often through the night and in dangerous conditions, reflects the best of public service.</para>
<para>I want to recognise the residents and families in Lalor, who faced the storm with courage and compassion. Many supported neighbours, checked on vulnerable residents and helped clear debris while waiting for emergency crews.</para>
<para>The spirit of solidarity across the electorate in the suburbs of Werribee, Wyndham Vale and Hoppers Crossing demonstrates the fighting heart of Lalor. The tornado that struck Lalor was frightening and destructive but it also showed strength and unity in our community. To every volunteer, very emergency worker and every resident fighter in Lalor, thank you. The Albanese government will continue to back you by building climate resilience, cutting emissions, and investing in safer and stronger communities across our electorate,.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Aged Care</title>
          <page.no>49</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:15</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr KENNEDY</name>
    <name.id>267506</name.id>
    <electorate>Cook</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Across my electorate, older Australians and their families are telling me the same thing: the aged-care system and the home-care package system are failing them. One of my constituents Donna Rowe reached out about her father, Richard. Richard is almost 94 and, while his family waited urgently for a needed upgrade to his home-care package, the paperwork sat idle. He is now in hospital in full-time care.</para>
<para>Families feel as though the system delays in the hope that frail people will die before their package is approved. That is what these constituents telling me and this is completely unacceptable. Others, like Carla Pennini, pointed the cost of bureaucracy. Her parents' provider took more than 23 per cent of their package in administration fees alone. That was the equivalent of 120 hours of care to her parents lost to paperwork. Imagine the difference those hours could have made to the people spent being looked after in homes instead of in administration.</para>
<para>These are not isolated complaints; I hear them all the time. They are symptoms of a system that has become too focused on providers and not focused enough on people. The government promised older Australians they would be supported to stay in their homes and these promises are not being kept.</para>
<para>I also want to raise another issue affecting many older Australians: the cost of treating macular degeneration. In recent weeks, several local residents have contacted me. One had just been diagnosed and described the shock of being told they would need ongoing injections directly into their eyeball to slow the disease. Another wrote of months of treatment explaining the steady financial strain it has placed on them and their partner, both of whom are on part-time pensions.</para>
<para>Even with Medicare rebates, patients face hundreds of dollars in out-of-pocket costs each year. For pensioners on these fixed incomes, this burden quickly becomes unsustainable. These pensioners are being crushed by cost-of-living—they talk about higher energy prices—and, on top of this, macular degeneration is actually bleeding them dry. It is the leading cause of blindness in all of Australia. Around one in seven Australians over 50 shows signs of the disease. Without treatment they lose their vision, independence and quality of life. These Australians are not asking for luxuries; they're asking to help afford a treatment that allows them not to go blind, to live in dignity, to drive, to read, to stay connected to their family and sometimes stay in employment.</para>
<para>So I call on the Minister for Health and Aged Care to review the support and how we support Australians with macular degeneration, including whether those PBS co-payments and the safety net thresholds remain fit for purpose. On behalf of my constituents, please look at it.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Pearce electorate: Volunteers</title>
          <page.no>50</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:18</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms ROBERTS</name>
    <name.id>157125</name.id>
    <electorate>Pearce</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I speak today with pride today to congratulate all Pearce winter sport groups on their seasons. The dedication, perseverance and sportsmanship shown by players, coaches volunteers and supporters is truly commendable. Each athlete and team help to build a vibrant sporting culture uniting our communities. Sport fosters team work, encourages healthy living and teaches resilience, respect and fair play. Beyond competition, family and friend support creates strong belonging and pride.</para>
<para>To the championship winning teams and individuals, I offer warm congratulations. Your success reflects hours of training, sacrifice and commitment. You have brought pride to your clubs and inspired younger athletes. Your achievements set high standards for excellence and community spirit.</para>
<para>Equally valued are those who gave their best without trophies; the true spirit of sport is effort and participation. Every player, coach and volunteer strengthens community social fabric. Your involvement promotes wellbeing, builds friendships and creates lasting memories.</para>
<para>As winter ends and summer approaches, attention shifts to community safety and enjoyment. Summer brings outdoor activities, beaches and festivals, but increased risk.</para>
<para>We honour our volunteers who keep us safe, especially our bushfire brigades and SES members. Your bravery protects lives, homes and nature. With rising environmental challenges, your commitment is vital.</para>
<para>I also acknowledge the three surf lifesaving clubs at my community beaches, and those around Australia. These volunteers patrol, rescue and educate the public, ensuring safety during summer. Their work allows families to enjoy the coast with peace of mind. Beyond lifesaving, they promote fitness, discipline and leadership, teaching water safety and building confidence in youths.</para>
<para>What unites athletes, firefighters, SES members and surf lifesavers is volunteering, which is our community backbone. Volunteers give selflessly and strengthen social bonds. Their efforts support mental health, inclusion and resilience in members, and they shape a caring and connected community. To every volunteer: your contribution is the foundation of our community's strength, spirit and generosity. Through sport, service and volunteering, the Pearce electorate stays a vibrant and caring community we proudly call home.</para>
</speech>
</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Lister, Mr Leonard Frank (Len)</title>
          <page.no>50</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:21</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms LANDRY</name>
    <name.id>249764</name.id>
    <electorate>Capricornia</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to honour the life and service of Leonard Frank Lister, a proud Australian, a devoted husband and father and one of the last of a remarkable generation who gave everything for their country and community. Born on 14 February 1924 in Burwood, New South Wales, Len grew up during the Great Depression, one of many young Australians who grew up tough, resilient and ready to serve when their nation called on them in its hour of need. He passed away a couple of weeks ago at the extraordinary age of 101, leaving behind a legacy of courage, humility, kindness and lifelong dedication to others that continues to inspire all who knew him.</para>
<para>Len's journey to serve his country was not easy. At age 18, Len joined the RAAF and was later discharged due to asthma. After several determined attempts to join the Australian Military Forces, Len finally succeeded in October 1942, training as an instrument mechanic before transferring to the Australian Imperial Force. At just 19, Len was drafted to Milne Bay in New Guinea, serving first with the Australian Electrical and Mechanical Engineers and later transferring to the 2nd/12th Australian Infantry Battalion. He completed rigorous jungle warfare training at Canungra before deployment to New Guinea. His war service ended suddenly during a patrol in New Guinea's mountains when a fall shattered his leg. Len recalled how the villagers, the 'fuzzy wuzzies', splinted his leg with jungle sticks and stitched a blanket from hibiscus bark to carry him to safety—an incredible act of compassion and courage that he never forgot and spoke of often, with deep gratitude. After a long recovery, Len was discharged in October 1946, as a corporal. For his service, Len received the 1939-45 Star, Pacific Star, War Medal and Australian Service Medal.</para>
<para>After the war, Len settled in Mackay and later in Sarina, where he met and married a nurse named Ada. Together they raised four children and shared a lifetime of love, laughter and hard work. Len worked in the sugar industry for many years in the local sugar mill, cutting cane by hand, and later managing a cane farm with great pride and skill.</para>
<para>But it was his community spirit and generosity that truly defined him. Len served in many community roles over the years. He was the first president of the Sarina Ski Club, served as treasurer of the Sarina rifle club and devoted 25 years to air and sea rescue. He chalked up nearly 50 years of service to the Sarina Rotary Club, where he was awarded the Paul Harris Fellow for his tireless dedication to the community. He was a proud and active member of the RSL for over 60 years, always turning up to support his mates and younger veterans alike. Len recently stated, 'It's a bugger being one of the last men standing.'</para>
<para>As long as we remember stories like his, their spirit endures—the spirit of courage, service and selflessness that built this nation and continues to guide it. Australia is better, stronger and a more caring country because of the life of Leonard Frank Lister. Lest we forget.</para>
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          <title>Robertson Electorate: Automatic External Defibrillators</title>
          <page.no>51</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:24</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Dr REID</name>
    <name.id>300126</name.id>
    <electorate>Robertson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I would like to commend the Tarragal Glen Residents Committee on its work procuring and installing several automatic external defibrillators, or AEDs, on site to assist residents to respond quickly to emergency situations. An AED is a portable medical device that can save the life of someone in cardiac arrest by delivering an electric shock to the heart. Anyone can use an AED, because it analyses the heart's rhythm—</para>
<para class="italic"> <inline font-style="italic">A division having been called in the House of Representatives—</inline></para>
<para>Sitting suspended from 10:24 to 10:46</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Dr REID</name>
    <name.id>300126</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>I would like to commend the Tarragal Glen Residents Committee on its work to procure and install several automated external defibrillators, or AEDs, onsite to assist residents to respond quickly in emergency situations. The Tarragal Glen Residents Committee chairman, Mr Peter Speers, along with committee member Mr Jim Skene have been pivotal in supporting and bringing this project to fruition. Both individuals are responsible for devising and implementing this project through the committee.</para>
<para>To obtain the AEDs Peter and Jim completed an application of funding support through the Australian government's Stronger Communities Program. The project was successful in receiving $16,200 to purchase six defibrillators, which have now been installed in weatherproof cabinets that are strategically placed around the Tarragal Glen village. In addition to this, one of the six defibrillators has been placed in the village bus to ensure coverage and access during journeys outside the village, in the community.</para>
<para>I'm also pleased to note that Mr Speers has organised training via e-modules for the 500 village residents on how to appropriately use the AEDs during emergencies and has partnered with retired GP Dr John Anderson to facilitate further face-to-face training exercises on familiarisation with the AEDs. As an emergency doctor at Wyong, I can attest to the benefits of AEDs strategically located throughout our community. AEDs increase the likelihood of survival by up to 70 per cent if applied within the first minutes of cardiac arrest. The devices are designed for the general public, providing step-by-step instructions. They provide immediate life-saving assistance before the paramedics arrive.</para>
<para>AEDs are outstanding medical devices and I'm comforted knowing that, now, more are operating within my community. I would like to wholeheartedly thank the Tarragal Glen Residents Committee—and a big thanks to Mr Peter Speers on his tireless efforts and contributions to make our community safer. I know these AEDs will be life-saving in emergency situations. My support also goes to community and committee member Mr Jim Skene on his support for this project and for all of his work alongside Mr Speers.</para>
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</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Youth Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>51</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:49</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr LEESER</name>
    <name.id>109556</name.id>
    <electorate>Berowra</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>It's not every day that you get a wonderful idea from a young person in your electorate that is a reminder that you're never too young to make a difference. That's what happened to me recently when Ashleigh Dewhurst, a year 4 student from Pennant Hills Public School, reached out to me with a thoughtful and practical proposal to address some of the challenges young people face in schools. Ashleigh explained that many young people feel too shy, embarrassed and afraid to speak up about the worries on their mind. They might not want to tell a teacher face to face. They might worry that their friends will think they're different. They might not have the words to explain what they're feeling, or they might think that their concerns don't matter.</para>
<para>Ashleigh wanted to change this. Her idea is simple, inexpensive and powerful. It's the concept of a letterbox in schools. Students can write down their worries, or draw a picture, if that's easier, and place it in the letterbox. The principal then collects the notes, shares them with the student's teacher and makes sure those concerns are taken seriously. Ashleigh gave me some examples. The student might be anxious about an upcoming maths test, they might be feeling left out on the playground, or they might be struggling and don't know what to do.</para>
<para>Her idea also brings our community together. I've been speaking to some of our local men's sheds about helping build these letterboxes so that they can be rolled out across our community. Ashley is here today in the parliament with her family: brother, Miles, and parents, Blair and Erin. They'd been meeting earlier today with the new CEO of Lifeline, Graham Strong, who's also in the chamber, and Emma Carr from Lifeline, to talk about the inspiring proposal.</para>
<para>What I love about Ashleigh's proposal is that it's not just practical but it's wise. We often talk about the importance of student wellbeing and mental health. Ashleigh's proposal provides an appropriate way for people who might be too anxious to speak up but who need others to know that they're struggling to get support. As the shadow minister for education, I know that children face pressures inside and outside the classroom, and sometimes that can be overwhelming. If those feelings are bottled up, they become barriers to learning and friendships. But, when children feel safe enough to share their feelings, even through a folded piece of paper, we can continue that work to normalise conversations about mental health and ensure young people can get early support.</para>
<para>Ashleigh's letterbox idea has the ability to be another tool for schools to help create an environment not just for education but for care, support, resilience and trust. I want to commend Ashleigh for her creativity and her courage. She saw a problem in her own world and came up with a practical solution. I told her that I would bring the matter to parliament and that I would continue to champion the need to improve mental health and resilience outcomes in schools in our community and across Australia. Giving children a safe and practical way to express their worries isn't a small thing; it's a vital step in ensuring that every child feels safe and supported. Sometimes the biggest ideas for change come from our youngest voices. Ashleigh, you have one of those voices. Congratulations, and keep going.</para>
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</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Youth Voice in Parliament, The Leukaemia Foundation</title>
          <page.no>52</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:52</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms FRANCE</name>
    <name.id>270198</name.id>
    <electorate>Dickson</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I am so pleased to read out a statement from 16-year-old Heidi from my electorate of Dixon as part of the Raise our Voice campaign.</para>
<quote><para class="block">My name is Heidi and at the time of writing, I am a 16 year old student. As a young Australian, I believe our government has a responsibility to build a future where every person is accepted for who they are—no matter their race, religion, sexuality, or culture.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Too often, young people grow up hearing voices of hate and division, when what we desperately need is love, respect, and understanding.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Australia is one of the most diverse countries in the world, and that should be our greatest strength.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">But when people are judged for the colour of their skin, who they love, or the faith they follow, we all lose.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">If the government truly wants to create a better tomorrow, it must do more than just talk about tolerance—it must act.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That means stronger protections against discrimination, proper education in schools that teaches empathy and inclusivity, and support for young people who feel silenced or left out.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">My generation doesn't want to live in a country divided by fear. We want a future built on acceptance, kindness, and courage.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">If our leaders take bold steps today, they can help create an Australia where difference is not just tolerated but celebrated—and that is the kind of tomorrow I want to grow up in.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Thanks, Heidi.</para></quote>
<para>I'd also like to use my remaining time to acknowledge that this year we are celebrating 50 years of the Leukaemia Foundation. The Leukaemia Foundation has been providing care and support to people living with leukaemia and their families for over 50 years, including the many regional and rural families I met during my Henry's 18-month battle with leukaemia, families that got to stay close to their loved ones because of the Leukaemia Foundation. Every year, thousands of Australians have their lives turned upside down by blood cancers like leukaemia. The work of the Leukaemia Foundation is immeasurable. Thank you to the Leukaemia Foundation for 50 years of supporting young Australians and all Australians with blood cancers.</para>
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          <title>Page Electorate: Community Events</title>
          <page.no>52</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:54</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr HOGAN</name>
    <name.id>218019</name.id>
    <electorate>Page</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I'd like to acknowledge the achievements of a young woman from Casino, Latahlia Hickling. Latahlia recently made her international modelling debut, working for Chanel at the Paris Fashion Week and appearing on the cover of <inline font-style="italic">Vogue Australia</inline>. Her success is a testament to her commitment to and passion for her profession. I'd like to congratulate her and I look forward to seeing her continue to inspire young Australians. Latahlia was a past student of Casino High School. She makes her family, friends and the community proud.</para>
<para>I'd like to congratulate the Lismore City Printery, a local business in my community, on reaching a remarkable milestone of 75 years in business. Back in 1950, Len McGuiness and George Muldoon founded Lismore City Printery. Today, Len's son, Shaun—who has been working at the printery since he was 15 and has now dedicated 50 years to the business—runs it with his team: Helen Cameron, Roann McFarlane, Robyn McMahon, Soren Hjorth, Karen Buttler, Lyn Johnson and David Cavanagh. Over the decades, the business has faced and overcome challenges, including fires and floods, but they continue to be a leading print provider. In 2021, they rebranded as the North Coast Print Hub. Congratulations to Shaun and the whole team for 75 years of dedication, services and support to local businesses.</para>
<para>I'd like to acknowledge and congratulate Beverley Anderson on her 50th anniversary of running Clovelly Fashions, a ladies fashion shop in Maclean. She took over the boutique in 1975 and has built the business that people love to enjoy and shop at and visit. Generations of women in the Clarence Valley have shopped with Beverley over the years, and she's known for her very friendly and personal service. Many locals pop in to Clovelly. It isn't just about buying clothes; it's about catching up with Beverley, having a chat and feeling welcome. Beyond the shop, Beverley has given a lot to the Clarence Valley community as treasurer of the Maclean hospital auxiliary and by supporting local charities. I also want to acknowledge the support of her husband, Kevin. Congratulations on 50 years of ownership and for everything you do for our community.</para>
<para>I'd like to recognise an outstanding small-business owner in my community, Mrs Gail Burley, who this year celebrates a 65-year career in hairdressing. She started as a 15-year-old apprentice before owning her own salon. She says one of her career highlights was placing third in the Wella New South Wales state championship in 1989 for service excellence. Gail and her husband and her children moved to Alstonville in 1990 and, within the community, Gail is known for her care and dedication. She's supported by Gary, who often drives her early customers to and from appointments. Beyond her salon, Gail has dedicated countless hours to the community through volunteering at St Bartholomew's church, its op shop and the local Quota club. Congratulations, Gail, on your fantastic 65 years of hairdressing and for what you've done for our community.</para>
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</subdebate.1><subdebate.1><subdebateinfo>
          <title>Youth Voice in Parliament</title>
          <page.no>53</page.no>
        </subdebateinfo><speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>10:57</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms McBAIN</name>
    <name.id>281988</name.id>
    <electorate>Eden-Monaro</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I'd like to read out a Raise Our Voice speech by 16-year-old Emma, who lives in Bemboka in my electorate of Eden-Monaro. The question that they were asked to respond to was, 'What steps should the government take today to build a better tomorrow for young Australians?' Emma says:</para>
<quote><para class="block">If the government wants to build a better tomorrow for young Australians, the first step must be to give Elders the microphone. Not just in Indigenous spaces, not just on Country, but in front of the whole nation.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Elders brought the Uluru Statement from the Heart across this continent, offering a way forward for all Australians. And then they were turned away in the referendum. That cannot happen again.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Storytelling has long been a practise that is utilised by humans in a way to share experiences and entertain. Around campfires my ancestors orally told stories and exchanged sacred information in the form of song.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">With eager ears and light filled eyes small children cast their hearts and minds to the world of oral storytelling, allowing themselves to be immersed in lore and legend.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">The stories my ancestors told around campfires were not fairy tales or fantasy words spun together simply to spend an evening with peaceful quiet children.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">No, the stories we told around campfires, continue to tell around campfires and on country, are legends, lores and the way in which we owe the country as custodians.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Even now it is the most important form of which elders convince the younger generation to care. When elders tell stories they are convincing us with their utter existence that country is our soul and our spirit.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">That in the lines on their weathered face and hands, we could trace paths similar to desert tracks, or in the grooves in sea worn stone.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">The tone of their voice and the melody of their songs trace our entire ancestry, the same songs have left the lips of hundreds of mothers before them, and we are growing in this moment to understand that they will leave our lips one day for the future lineage.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">In order to convince somebody to care that has to be a connection. To hear a parental figures' voice crack under the weight of the cruel mistreatment that they have endured. Is to be convinced your entire childhood is crumbling.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">The innate human response to others' pain—written or told, is empathy, but the sheer gravity of seeing another human's pain, written on their body, in their voice, see it well up in their eyes. There is nothing that could convince someone to care more than that.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">It is much more difficult to ignore somebody standing in front of you, begging you to care and to listen, than it is to simply close a book with the same message.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Oral storytelling is powerful and potent. It forces us to face our humanity and morals. It allows us to connect and care, and share with real human connection.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">And most importantly it can convince the young to continue this culture that has existed for … 60,000 years.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">Around campfires, in river valleys, on beaches, in communities. The stories told by elders continue convincing the young to be blak loud and proud, more than a white man's written word ever could. That is why Elders deserve the microphone. Because when they speak to the whole country—not just to us, but to all Australians—they can lead us to a better tomorrow.</para></quote>
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          <title>Energy</title>
          <page.no>54</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:01</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mrs McINTOSH</name>
    <name.id>281513</name.id>
    <electorate>Lindsay</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>The people of Lindsay are proud, everyday Australians. We love our country and care about our environment, from the Nepean River to the bushland on the urban fringe that frames our suburbs. We've embraced solar; we conserve energy. We want a future that our kids can thrive in.</para>
<para>But we will not have our way of life sacrificed, in the name of energy ideology, to such a level where people can barely keep a roof over their heads. This has been made clear in a survey I put out to my community over the last month through emails, social media and every resident's letterbox. So far I've received over 1,500 responses from locals, and the surveys that hit letterboxes just over the last couple of weeks are pouring into my office in the hundreds per day.</para>
<para>There is nothing is more important for a member of parliament to do than listen to their community and be their strongest voice in the public sphere. I've listened, and, on Australia's energy future, my community's views are very clear. As of today 65 per cent of people who responded do not support net zero by 2050. When asked if they support net zero at any cost, the number who do not support net zero jumped to 87 per cent. Sixty-eight per cent of people oppose Labor's 2035 emissions reduction target. This isn't politics; it's the real-life struggles of everyday Australians who don't want a target that is destroying them and their families financially and our country economically. These are everyday Australians who are not being listened to by the Albanese Labor government, but they are certainly being listened to by their local member of parliament.</para>
<para>A shocking 89 per cent of people said their energy bills have increased. It's concerning that, when respondents were asked how much their energy bills had increased by, many said 50 per cent, hundreds of dollars and that they had at least doubled. Again, 89 per cent say higher energy bills have impacted their standard of living. They're skipping meals to pay for power. They're afraid to turn on the heater and the air conditioner. They are doing everything that is right—they are installing solar; they're cutting back on their energy—and they are still falling behind. Only four per cent of people who responded said emissions targets were the most important issue for Australia's energy future. The majority, at 52 per cent, said affordable energy was their top priority.</para>
<para>The people of Lindsay are not antienvironment; they are pro-reality. They are a community that think for themselves on issues that matters. They are open to nuclear; 73 per cent of respondents support lifting the ban. People in my community want Australia prioritised when it comes to the gas, coal and uranium that we produce. Ninety-four per cent agree with putting our nation first.</para>
<para>What I've heard in my survey is clear. The Albanese Labor government's renewables-only approach, with a 2035 emissions reduction target and net zero by 2050, is hurting families. These policies are driving up prices, destabilising supply and ignoring the voices of everyday Australians. The people of Lindsay, our everyday Australians, are speaking up.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>265980</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>In accordance with standing order 193, the time for members' constituency statements has concluded.</para>
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        <title>BILLS</title>
        <page.no>54</page.no>
        <type>BILLS</type>
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          <title>Fair Work Amendment (Baby Priya's) Bill 2025</title>
          <page.no>54</page.no>
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                <span class="HPS-SubDebate">Fair Work Amendment (Baby Priya's) Bill 2025</span>
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            <title>Second Reading</title>
            <page.no>54</page.no>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:04</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms JARRETT</name>
    <name.id>298574</name.id>
    <electorate>Brisbane</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Continuing on from last night, the Fair Work Amendment (Baby Priya's) Bill 2025 introduces a new principle into the Fair Work Act that employer funded paid parental leave must not be cancelled because a child is stillborn or a newborn dies. It will ensure that parents who suffer the heartbreak of a stillbirth or neonatal death, as Priya's parents did, can still access employer funded paid parental leave. Labor is doing what is right. We're looking after parents at a time that is so difficult for them.</para>
<para>The government has acted to safeguard these entitlements in the bill, and this bill will provide clarity for employers as well as grieving parents about their entitlements. This clarity will also benefit workplaces by helping retain and attract staff. Employees do not have to provide paid parental leave; however, the legal position is unclear in workplaces where paid parental leave is provided but there are no explicit entitlements addressing what will happen if a child is stillborn or dies. This isn't fair on employers, but, importantly, it is not fair on grieving parents. The bill will preserve employer funded paid parental leave entitlements in circumstances where it is not obvious on the face of the agreement what entitlements parents will receive if their child is stillborn or dies. The bill provides that an employer must not, because of a stillbirth or death, refuse to allow an employee to take employer paid parental leave to which they would have been entitled, or cancel any part of that leave.</para>
<para>This legislation, though, will not override the freedom of employers and employees to agree on their own paid parental leave policies, allowing bargaining above the safety net provided by the law. The bill also prevents an employer from seeking to avoid the new prohibition against refusal or cancellation of employer paid parental leave by unilaterally varying an employee's terms and conditions after the bill's commencement, such as by amending a workplace policy. In addition, the government does not intend to interfere with the specific entitlements that employees have negotiated which deal with stillbirth or death of a child, and this bill will not stop employers and employees bargaining in good faith. The ability to bargain over entitlements above and beyond the national employment standards, such as for employer funded paid parental leave, is central to our approach to workplace relations.</para>
<para>This bill has received support from across the board. We've had a number of fellow parliamentarians talk about this and share their experiences. I'd like to share a couple of quotes with you. The chairperson of Red Nose Australia, Nick Xerakias, said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">You cannot make parents feel better after a stillbirth or neonatal loss … But you can absolutely make it worse, and cancelling paid maternity leave is one of the ways that happens.</para></quote>
<para>The ASU secretary for New South Wales and ACT, Angus McFarland, said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Parents deserve compassion and support during a time of unimaginable grief. No parent mourning the loss of a child should be forced back to work early or face financial strain.</para></quote>
<para>I urge those opposite to support the passing of this bill, because it is the right thing to do.</para>
<para>The Albanese Labor government has always expanded and improved our paid parental leave system, and I highlighted earlier in my speech yesterday the long list of achievements that continue to benefit parents and their children today, but the work has continued to deliver with this bill. In addition, from 1 July this year we saw the Albanese Labor government reforms to paid parental leave rolling out, giving around 180 families a year more flexibility and support at one of the most important times of our lives. We also increased the amount of paid parental leave available to families, increasing to 24 weeks, giving parents an extra two weeks to spend with their newest family number. The amount of paid parental leave parents can take off at the same time will also increase from two weeks to four weeks. As a mum, I would absolutely appreciate that. Thanks to the government reforms, paid parental leave will continue to expand to 26 weeks by 1 July next year, and this means parents are able to spend more time with their family and more time caring for their newborn.</para>
<para>With the changes to super, the government is also taking huge steps to close the gender gap in retirement income. We know that women are disproportionally impacted in retirement, and they retire with less super in their bank accounts. Parents are already benefiting from the superannuation now also being paid on government paid parental leave. The 12 per cent contribution, based on the increase in the superannuation guarantee that started from 1 July, is now being paid. Parents will also benefit from an increase in the weekly payment rate of paid parental leave, and this equates to around $775 over the 24-week entitlement.</para>
<para>Under the Albanese Labor government we are ensuring we continue to back parents and families, not just in my electorate but across the community, and, importantly, with this bill we are doing this in a way that is a more caring, empathetic and compassionate way of looking after people and our communities.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:10</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr JOYCE</name>
    <name.id>e5d</name.id>
    <electorate>New England</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Obviously, nobody can argue against or understand the grief a person can feel having a stillborn child. We are aware of so many people who have had miscarriages, aware of the concern they cause, and aware of the grief and sorrow that people carry for the rest of their lives. I wholly agree with in how the substance expressed in this chamber has been put forward but of course there is always a caveat that those of us here want to check. A number of us feel we do not we have a clear answer on this, so, unfortunately—I hate to bring it up—there remains the issue of late-term abortion. We have a right to know if it includes that, because we have a right to express our views if it does. We have concerns because, in a letter by Minister Gallagher, it appeared that late-term abortions were encompassed in this. During estimates Minister McAllister appeared to confirm the same, and that takes it into a completely different remit. We understand and respect people have different views but there are many of us who have spent much of our time in parliament making sure our views are incredibly clear on this issue.</para>
<para>We understand there are so many complexities, but I stand on the position that the day after a child is born, no matter what medical conditions or impairments that may be there, you have no right to interfere in their life. Therefore, the day before we believe it is the same. That is something I have lived by, and I think it is incredibly important for me to state my position on this. There must be a clarification on this issue. It must be clarified before we come to a vote. It must be from the minister before the bill is voted for and, either way, there must be honesty in exactly what the position is. I think we have the right to know where we vote and how we vote. On one instance, there is 100 per cent support, 100 per cent empathy, we completely understand—no questions about it. But on the extension of it, if that is where it goes, we have every right not to vote for it and we have every right to be informed of it. We have every right for people to be completely clear about this and exactly where it is.</para>
<para>Obviously, these debates at times can be most divisive and heated. I accept that. But the substance of this is just how you view the rights of the individual. We believe that a person, if they are not cognisant of their rights, does not give anybody a licence to extinguish their rights, because you are not cognisant of your rights when you are asleep, you are not cognisant of your rights if you are under a general anaesthetic and you're not cognisant of your rights probably below the age of two. But you have those rights and those rights stand.</para>
<para>As we know, we can have people born at 22 or 23 weeks and these people survive. We believe—others don't—we have a duty of care to stand in this parliament and stand up for those rights. It might be a very small portion, and I acknowledge that. It is not the generality and it might not even be what is intended for, but this clarification must happen. If people clarify that that is not the case—that it does not include late-term abortion—that is fine. But if it does, and it is not stated and has not been made clear then that means you are hiding it. People hide things because they believe that there are circumstances where people have a substantially different view and they do not want them to know about it. So I pose the question here. Does this proscribe, which means rule out, late-term abortions or not?</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:15</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Ms BRISKEY</name>
    <name.id>263427</name.id>
    <electorate>Maribyrnong</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I rise today to speak about something that no parent ever wants to imagine: the loss of a child. When that happens, no-one should be faced with questions about their pay or their leave on top of their heartbreak. Parents deserve compassion, certainty and time to grieve, not confusion about their rights at work. That's why the Fair Work Amendment (Baby Priya's) Bill 2025, known as Baby Priya's bill, is so important. It's about making sure that, in those unimaginable moments, parents are treated with dignity and fairness and that they don't lose their paid parental leave just because they've lost their child. This bill delivers on an election commitment made by the Albanese Labor government, a commitment to build a fairer, kinder, more caring Australia, where families are supported when they need it most.</para>
<para>This bill is named after Baby Priya, who died when she was just six weeks old. I want to begin by acknowledging Priya's mum and dad. I want to thank them for their courage, their compassion and their determination to make sure that no other parent goes through what they did. Their advocacy has turned tragedy into reform, and today their daughter's legacy is a part of the legislation that will help protect thousands of families in the future. They have ensured that their little girl's life will continue to make a difference and that her story will forever be a part of our kinder, fairer Australia.</para>
<para>Parents should have the time to grieve the loss of a child. Their pain should not be compounded by the fear of losing income or being forced to return to work while still recovering, not only from the immense grief and trauma but from childbirth itself and the physical toll that that takes. They deserve clarity—clarity about their entitlements, about their financial situation and about their right to take their time to heal. Baby Priya's parents weren't afforded that dignity, and no parent should ever have to go through what they went through. We also know that they are incredibly difficult situations for both the managers and their colleagues to navigate. No-one should have to make discretionary calls on something so delicate and so devastating.</para>
<para>This bill provides clarity for parents, for employers and for the whole workplace. It sets out shared expectations so that these moments can be handled with dignity and compassion. This bill introduces a new principle into the Fair Work Act. Unless employers and employees have especially agreed otherwise, employer-funded paid parental leave must not be refused or cancelled because of the loss of a child that either is stillborn or dies early in infancy. That means parents can rely on their paid parental leave entitlements operating as they would have expected, regardless of the outcome of the pregnancy or birth.</para>
<para>The bill aligns with the clarity already provided in existing unpaid parental leave entitlements, ensuring consistency across the workplace relations framework. Importantly, it doesn't interfere with bargaining in good-faith agreements. The ability to bargain for pay and conditions above the safety net remains central to our approach to workplace relations. It leads to mutually beneficial conditions for both employers and employees, and it builds trust and dialogue in workplaces. This bill will not affect agreements that already clearly set out what happens if a child is stillborn or dies, including workplaces that offer dedicated stillbirth leave. Instead, it encourages employers and employees to continue negotiating clear, compassionate policies that respond to these heartbreaking moments.</para>
<para>This bill strikes a careful balance. It will not require employers to offer paid parental leave if they do not already do so, but, where paid leave is offered, it ensures that it can't be taken away because of tragedy unless both parties have clearly agreed otherwise. That's the type of fairness that this Labor government has made a cornerstone of our legislative agenda. Employers have told us they will welcome this clarity. Many workplace representatives have already reached out to express support for this reform, recognising that it helps both employees and managers deal with these circumstances sensitively and consistently. The bill also stops bad actors from undermining reform by unilaterally changing workplace policies after it commences. This is about making sure the law reflects decency and a compassion that can't be taken away by the stroke of a pen.</para>
<para>This bill sits within the broader suite of Labor's reforms to strengthen and modernise Australia's paid parental leave system, a system that for too long has left too many families behind. When the Albanese Labor government came to office, we made a promise to make it easier for families to balance work and care and to ensure that every child gets the best start in life. We are delivering on that promise. We're expanding the government funded Paid Parental Leave scheme to 26 weeks by 2026—the biggest expansion since the scheme began. We have made it more flexible, so that parents can share leave in a way that suits their family. And, for the first time, superannuation contributions will be paid on government funded paid parental leave, recognising that time spent caring for a baby should not come at the cost of a woman's retirement savings.</para>
<para>We know these reforms will help strengthen the connection between parents, particularly women, and the workforce. As the former CEO of the Parenthood, I saw firsthand how much difference connection makes. I worked alongside parents from all walks of life—shift workers, teachers, nurses, small business owners—all trying to balance the joy and chaos of raising children with the need to earn a living and stay connected to the workplace. I saw how vital it is to have a government that doesn't just talk about valuing care work but actually does something about it. Paid Parental Leave is a core foundation of our workplace relations system. It's an investment in our families, our workforce and our future. As a mum, I know in my bones how crucial that time is—those early weeks and months when you're finding your feet, learning how to keep a tiny human alive and discovering the kind of parent you want to be. It's exhausting, it's beautiful, and it's life changing.</para>
<para>For families who lose a child, that time becomes something even more precious—a time to grieve, to recover and to honour the life that was so short but so loved. That's why this bill matters so deeply. Australia is one of the safest countries in the world to give birth in, but tragically stillbirths and infant deaths still happen. On an average day in Australia, six babies are stillborn, and two die within their first year of life. In 2022 alone, that meant 3,000 families lost a child. Behind every one of those numbers is a story, a family, a life, a name and a home left quiet. Behind every one of those stories is a grief that last a lifetime.</para>
<para>This bill addresses a small but significant gap that sadly some of those parents have fallen through. It ensures that, when tragedy strikes, the law doesn't turn away; it has your back. It ensures that compassion is built into our workplace relations system. This bill provides certainty for everyone, as I said—for workers and employers. Managers should never be placed in a position of having to make ad hoc decisions about something as sensitive as the death of a child. This reform that means there's a clear rule, applied fairly and consistent. It also prevents employers from varying terms or policies after the bill comes into force to avoid these obligations. It's about consistency, compassion and confidence—principles that should define every Australian web base.</para>
<para>The bill brings employer funded paid parental leave into alignment with the clarity already found in our unpaid parental leave and the government's Paid Parental Leave scheme. It uses existing definitions under the Fair Work Act, such as 'child' and 'stillborn child', to ensure the law operates consistently and clearly. It also extends coverage to adoption and surrogacy arrangements, ensuring that all families, however they are formed, are treated equally, because the grief and pain of losing a child does not discriminate, and it does not diminish because of how you become a parent. To support compliance, penalties for breaches mirror those that already apply for unpaid parental leave.</para>
<para>In short, this bill doesn't create a new bureaucracy; it strengthens the fairness where it was missing. This reform embodies Labor values: it's practical, passionate and grounded in fairness. It recognises that workplaces are not just a productivity; they're about people—people who love, who lose, who grieve and who deserved to be treated with dignity and every stage of life. It also reflects the power of advocacy from Priya's parents, from community and advocacy groups and from the union movement, which, for decades, has fought for Paid Parental Leave and compassionate workplace standards.</para>
<para>Unions have been at the forefront of this struggle for generations, campaigning for parental leave, for carers' rights, for fair pay and for the right to grieve without fear of losing your job. This bill stands firmly in that tradition and is a continuation of the Labor movement's long fight to make work fairer, kinder and more human. In communities across Australia we know that parents who lose a child face unimaginable grief. The world seems to stop, but the bills don't. Bodies are still recovering from childbirth even as hearts are breaking and the last thing families should have to worry about is whether their leave entitlements will be honoured. As a mum, I can't even begin to imagine their pain. As a representative, I can do my part to make sure the law doesn't add to it, and that's exactly what this bill seeks to ensure. It ensures that employer funded paid parental leave cannot be cancelled or refused because of tragedy. It ensures that parents can take time to grieve, heal and recover without uncertainty, without confusion and without fear.</para>
<para>To Priya's mum and dad: thank you again for your courage. You have turned heartbreak into hope and you have helped build a fairer system for thousands of families. And to Baby Priya: your name will now forever be part of our nation's laws—a legacy of love and compassion that will outlast us all. This is what Labor governments do. We fix what's unfair, we stand for working people and we deliver reforms that make life fairer and futures more secure. I commend the bill.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:26</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr PASIN</name>
    <name.id>240756</name.id>
    <electorate>Barker</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Baby Priya's bill, the Fair Work Amendment (Baby Priya's) Bill 2025, does two things I absolutely support and one thing I can't. The bill updates the Fair Work Act to treat a natural stillbirth and a baby who dies shortly after birth in the same—so as to enable paid parental leave to apply without the ability of an employer to seek to avoid that obligation owing to the nature of those unfortunate circumstances. I want to be really clear. I think that is what is intended in this bill, I think that's what's intended by Baby Priya's law and that is what I absolutely support so fulsomely that I can't even put it into words.</para>
<para>I commend the previous speaker for her contribution about how difficult it must be to live through those kinds of traumas—every support for a family dealing with that kind of tragedy. So often with my own children I think, in this role, about how lucky I've been as I meet children—I'm sure, Deputy Speaker, you've had this experience as well—who are challenged in life because of health or circumstances. You can't help but think about how lucky you have been and how, in life, you have perhaps won the lottery of life as you are empathising with those constituents, acting on their behalf and supporting them.</para>
<para>But I did say there are two things this bill does that I support and congratulate the government for adopting and one thing it does that I can't support. I can only hope and think that this is an unintended consequence that hasn't perhaps been thought through. As I read the act and as legal experts have read the act and have confirmed with me, it would effectively treat an intentionally late-term aborted child in the same way as it would a natural stillbirth or a baby who dies shortly after birth. That is something I can't support.</para>
<para>Perhaps it's an unintended consequence because some of the jurisdictions around our country have adopted late-term abortion legislation and not everyone in the community is cognisant of that. But, in my own state of South Australia—I'm certainly no expert on other jurisdictions, although I've spoken to colleagues who confirm that, in some other jurisdictions, the laws are even more liberal than in our own home state, Deputy Speaker. In my home state a late-term abortion up to birth is now lawful. I can see my friend opposite quizzing that. I'm happy to share that information with you. It's as shocking a concept to me as it perhaps is to those—</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr PASIN</name>
    <name.id>240756</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>No, I wasn't talking about you, Member for Dickson; I was talking about my friend opposite. I wish it weren't the case, but it is. Perhaps this law has been framed in a way without having that background. The following probably indicates that it is not an unintended consequence, because, recently, in correspondence from Minister Gallagher's office and, subsequently, in Senate estimates, courtesy of Labor minister Jenny McAllister, we've had it confirmed that the stillborn baby payment—a payment made by the Commonwealth department to families who have suffered a stillborn tragedy—is payable to individuals who have taken the decision to terminate a pregnancy late in the term, as is Commonwealth paid parental leave, up to $22,000.</para>
<para>Apologies to the chamber, but I can't avoid making this statement. Not everyone understands, but I need to clarify that abortions that are undertaken in the third trimester effectively require a stillbirth to take place. You can, as I have, speak to medical experts and become aware of that. Quite obviously the definition is that a payment is made in the event of a stillbirth. And, if a birth has to take place in the third trimester, then, of course, the payment is made. What our nation needs—and I'm not proposing to do it via this bill, because, as I said, I support the substantive elements of this bill, not the unintended consequence—is a definition of what 'stillborn' means, and stillborn must exclude the intentional decision to undertake an abortion. If that were the case, I wouldn't be speaking. The bill would have my support, because the Fair Work Act would simply be saying, 'In the event of a stillbirth, as defined, excluding late-term abortion,' then, of course, an employer can't seek to renegotiate leave for a family dealing with that grief. As I have said, we need to ensure that we're very clear about this. I would prefer a world in which those Commonwealth payments aren't made either, and that definition of stillborn would deal with that as well.</para>
<para>These are uncomfortable discussions and debates, but I want to be very clear and I want to end where I started. I completely support Baby Priya's bill as it relates to a baby that passes away shortly after birth or, indeed, in the event of a stillborn child, as we would ordinarily define that to be. I hope very much that those opposite accept that what I'm talking about is an unintended consequence and that, in the fullness of time, we can work towards excluding paid parental leave. I think it's clear in the title 'paid parental leave' that it should be available to parents and that it should be available to people who had wished to become parents but for the grace of God have not become parents through an incident or outcome, but it shouldn't be available to people who don't wish to become parents. I hope that in the fullness of time we will be able to clarify this for the parliament, the people, the bureaucracy and business—those who will ultimately administer Baby Priya's bill.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:34</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ABDO</name>
    <name.id>316915</name.id>
    <electorate>Calwell</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I just want to note for the member for Barker that, if you're not going to take up the full time that you're allowed to speak, my understanding of the law relates to severe foetal abnormalities incompatible with life or serious threats to a pregnant woman's health and life.</para>
<interjection>
  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">The DEPUTY SPEAKER</name>
    <name.id>298800</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>The member for Calwell has the call.</para>
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  <talker>
    <name role="metadata">Mr ABDO</name>
    <name.id>316915</name.id>
  </talker>
  <para>And, if you're going to bring in other issues, Member for Barker, extend to your full time to explain yourself.</para>
<para>I rise to speak in support of the Fair Work Amendment (Baby Priya's) Bill 2025, a bill that reminds us that the law is not only about contracts and clauses but about compassion and conscience—about people; about Baby Priya and her family and families right across Australia. This legislation ensures that parents who endure the unthinkable, the death of their child, are not asked to return to work while they are still shattered by grief. It closes a cruel gap in our workplace laws and places humanity at the centre of our fair work system, a fundamental principle of the Albanese Labor government.</para>
<para>In June of last year, a baby girl named Priya was born just shy of 25 weeks. She was a tiny figure in a humidicrib, her parents, by her side, suspended between fear and hope. Her mother has since shared her story with immense courage. She said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">I used to call her my 'fighter girl' and my 'super girl' when she was in the NICU, encouraging her through every challenge she faced and overcame, until she couldn't anymore.</para></quote>
<para>Priya lived for 42 days. Ten days after losing Priya, her mother—a loyal employee of 11 years—received a text message from work. It said her preapproved paid parental leave was being cancelled. Priya's mother asked if she could have, in her words, 'at least six weeks leave, for the time she was alive'. She received no response. Her partner, a teacher in the New South Wales public system, retained his full parental leave. Government paid leave is protected; private sector leave was not.</para>
<para>That cruel contrast, between two parents grieving the same child yet treated differently by two systems, laid bare an injustice no fair minded Australian could accept. So, in the depths of their grief, Priya's parents began to campaign. They launched a petition in March, calling on the government to make it illegal for employers to cancel paid maternity leave following infant death or stillbirth. They turned to their union, the Australian Services Union, for help. ASU secretary Angus McFarland said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Parents deserve compassion and support during a time of unimaginable grief. No parent mourning the loss of a child should be forced back to work early or face financial strain.</para></quote>
<para>Their campaign gained momentum. In mid-April, the then workplace relations minister announced that the government would move to close the loophole. Labor made an election commitment to protect grieving parents' entitlements.</para>
<para>This bill inserts a simple but profound principle into the Fair Work Act. Unless an employer and an employee have expressly agreed otherwise, employer funded paid parental leave cannot be cancelled because a child is stillborn or dies. It brings employer funded leave into line with government funded and unpaid leave entitlements. It ensures that parents like Priya's mum and dad have time to grieve, to heal and to rebuild without the indignity of having to bargain for compassion. It provides clarity for employers too, removing uncertainty and ensuring consistent practice across workplaces.</para>
<para>The amendment applies to parents who experience stillbirth or early infant loss and have workplace arrangements for parental leave in place, aligning private employer schemes with the protections already embedded for government funded leave. It preserves flexibility without imposing new obligations on employers who do not already provide paid leave and without overriding enterprise agreements or bargained entitlements. It simply sets a national standard that compassion is not optional.</para>
<para>Every year, around 3,000 families in Australia lose a child to stillbirth or within 28 days of life—roughly one every three hours. Behind each number is a story of love, loss and longing. In her own words, Priya's mother said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">It seems unfathomable in Australia, in 2025, that this is even possible. And yet, here we are.</para></quote>
<para>Later she said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">My baby's name means 'Beloved' in Sanskrit.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">I was her mother for 42 days, and I am STILL her mother. It is in her name, as Priya's mother, that I will ensure no other Australian grieving a stillbirth, or infant death, has her paid Maternity Leave cancelled by her employer.</para></quote>
<para>That is the voice that moved our government and this parliament.</para>
<para>In April the Albanese Labor government made a clear commitment to close this loophole. The Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations has been steadfast in ensuring that compassion is built into the law. She said, and I quote:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Parents should not have to deal with uncertainty about their employer-funded paid parental leave entitlements on top of their grief.</para></quote>
<quote><para class="block">It is important that parents don't find themselves having to negotiate with their employers over their leave arrangements at such a difficult moment.</para></quote>
<para>She's right, because no parent should ever have to open a text message cancelling their leave while they plan funerals. This bill makes sure they never will.</para>
<para>As a new father myself, I can hardly imagine the heartbreak that Priya's parents have lived through. When my son, Noah, was born earlier this year, in the NICU ward, I would watch him sleep, counting his breaths, filled with awe and fear in equal measure. Becoming a parent changes how you see everything. It makes you understand what it truly means to love without condition. That is why this story cuts so deeply, because every parent can picture that crib, that hospital room and that NICU ward.</para>
<para>This bill is not an abstraction. It's a moral necessity. At its core, this reform is also about our principle, the Labor principle, of dignity at work. It aligns with Labor's long tradition of ensuring that the Fair Work system reflects who we are as a society. Paid parental leave was a Labor reform. Superannuation on paid parental leave, a Labor reform. And now, Baby Priya's law, a Labor reform, continuing in that tradition.</para>
<para>Being an employer is about more than managing rosters and budgets. It's about recognising the humanity of your workforce, of the people who work for you. As Emma Walsh, CEO of Parents at Work, said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Australia has a patchwork of paid parental leave policies. Not all employers offer paid parental leave and they're not required to by law, which leaves parents solely reliant on workplace discretion.</para></quote>
<para>She also noted that Australia's scheme remains among the least generous in the OECD, reminding us why a national floor for compassion matters. She's right when she says:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Embedding compassion through major life events into workplace culture benefits everyone. Supporting parents through every stage—from fertility and pregnancy to childbirth, loss and the return to work—isn't just the right thing to do, it's vital for building thriving, sustainable workplaces.</para></quote>
<para>Good employers already do this. This bill makes that decency the national standard. This reform also shines a light on how we treat loss in Australia. Disparities persist between public and private sectors and across states and regions. Government funded leave includes premature birth leave, giving parents additional time from birth to 37 weeks gestation so that they don't exhaust their entitlements before bringing their baby home. Many private policies don't.</para>
<para>The Pink Elephants Support Network's <inline font-style="italic">Not </inline><inline font-style="italic">j</inline><inline font-style="italic">ust</inline><inline font-style="italic"> a</inline><inline font-style="italic">l</inline><inline font-style="italic">oss</inline> report, released alongside this bill, found that 75 per cent of women coping with miscarriage or stillbirth felt unsupported. More than two-thirds received no workplace support when told their pregnancy had ended. Women in regional and remote areas were 60 per cent more likely to experience perinatal death than those in major cities, and waited an average of three hours longer for miscarriage related care. The report describes an 'abandonment crisis', where families are denied basic workplace protections, such as bereavement leave certificates, that give them time and space to grieve.</para>
<para>One in four pregnancies end in miscarriage. Six babies are stillborn every day in Australia. Those numbers demand compassion and not bureaucracy. At a recent South Australian inquiry into stillbirth, a mother named Cathy Nguyen shared her story. She had been told her pregnancy was healthy and low risk. She wrote:</para>
<quote><para class="block">I will never forget the moment my world shattered.</para></quote>
<para>She went through 30 hours of labour to give birth to her daughter, Sage, who was stillborn. She said:</para>
<quote><para class="block">How can nature be so cruel? To allow me to birth death … to go through nearly 30 hours of labour and end with … my lifeless daughter.</para></quote>
<para>Her words remind us that physical recovery, hormonal change and emotional devastation all co-exist and that our systems must recognise that complexity.</para>
<para>In 2018, a federal Senate inquiry into stillbirth delivered 16 recommendations. Labor acted and invested $7.2 million in prevention and research, but we know prevention must be matched by compassion. This bill delivers that next step. It sets a clear national principle that grief will not be compounded by financial loss or administrative cruelty, and it does so with broad support. The minister said: 'I hope the opposition supports this bill, which is motivated by the courageous advocacy of Priya's parents. I've been encouraged by the broad backing we've received from employer and employee groups, because fairness serves everyone.'</para>
<para>When we legislate for compassion, we reaffirm the core Labor principle and belief that work is about people. It's the same belief that drove early generations to fight for annual leave, to fight for simply, to fight for maternity leave and to fight for superannuation on paid parental leave. Fairness at work is not a gift; it's a right earned through struggle and enshrined through law. This bill continues that story. It measures our success not in dollars but in decency. Priya's mother said recently:</para>
<quote><para class="block">Priya's name is going to be law. My fighter girl, my Priya, has changed the world.</para></quote>
<para>She certainly changed Australia. A little girl who lived for 42 days has changed how this country treats parents and families in their most vulnerable moments. That is her legacy. Her parents, who in their darkest hours found the strength to fight not for themselves but for others, have shown extraordinary courage. To them this parliament owns is thanks.</para>
<para>This bill is modest in its text but monumental in its meaning. It restores dignity where indignity once existed. It replaces silence with certainty and it tells every grieving parent in Australia, 'We see you, we stand with you and we will not let the system fail you again.' As a father, as a Labor MP and as an Australian, I see in this bill the best of what government can do: turn private pain into public purpose and ensure that compassion is not left to chance.</para>
<para>This bill before the parliament says that no parent should ever have to have their grief compounded. No family should lose a baby and then have their entitlements loom as a real consequential shadow compounding their grief. In Australia compassion as part of our workplace law. In the end this is more than a bill; it's a promise, a Labor promise, a government promise that our laws will reflect that humanity. It's a promise that the name Priya will forever stand for fairness, dignity and compassion.</para>
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<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:47</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr HASTIE</name>
    <name.id>260805</name.id>
    <electorate>Canning</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>Children are a tremendous blessing, and that's why the grief of a lost baby hits so hard—it really hits hard. I truly learned this while riding with a good friend of mine. Cycling in the mornings, and he opened up to me about his experience of stillbirth. He and his wife lost a child. It took some time before he really got into what that meant for them, but it wasn't until I went into their living room and saw on their wall two little footprints which remind them of their lost child.</para>
<para>Stillbirth is incredibly painful for people. That's why I support the intent of this Fair Work Amendment (Baby Priya’s) Bill 2025 to uphold and preserve employer funded paid parental leave for those who have lost a child in stillbirth or immediately after. I support this bill and its intent to give certainty around employer funded paid parental leave in that event. Families need support during that terrible time after eight to nine months—maybe even less—of anticipated joy at welcoming another life into this world and building a family, the grief is hard to describe in words. Having not felt myself, I can only imagine. My dear friend in Perth helped me understand what that meant for him and his wife.</para>
<para>But I do have a question about the unintended consequences of this bill, and it applies to late-term abortions. This is a place where we can come and express views according to conscience. It's no secret that I am opposed to late-term abortions. So the point of my speaking this morning is to affirm the intent of this bill, which is to give certainty for families suffering through the loss of a child, and I absolutely support the intent of that. I think it's a noble and good thing, and Baby Priya's bill deserves our support for that reason. But I do call upon the government—I note the sensitivity around this—to clarify that it does not apply to late-term abortions. That is the question at the heart of my speech. That is all I have to say on this matter.</para>
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<speech>
  <talker>
    <time.stamp>11:50</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr LAXALE</name>
    <name.id>299174</name.id>
    <electorate>Bennelong</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>This is a bill about Baby Priya and about fixing a loophole in a law identified by her grieving parents. It is not about anything else. It is not about a culture war. It is not about what the member has just put as a question. It is a bill born from heartbreak and from the hope of Baby Priya's parents to fix a law that was broken, and nothing else, Member for New England—nothing else. This bill carries the name of a little girl who lived for just six weeks. After Priya passed away, her parents—her mother in particular—faced something no parent should ever face: not just unimaginable grief but a call from her employer asking when she would return to work. She had to renegotiate her paid parental leave while grieving the loss of her child. No parent should ever have to go through that, and I'm sure those opposite degree.</para>
<para>Before this bill, the law was not clear. Employers provide government funded paid parental leave but many also offer their own employer funded leave. Fundamentally, that is a good thing. It is something that, as a Labor government, we encourage. Government funded paid parental leave of course was a Labor creation in 2007, which, importantly, was reformed and modernised last term, with it being extended to six months and, for the first time, having superannuation added to it—good reforms to a good public policy. This bill is also a good form of public policy that our nation needs.</para>
<para>If a child is stillborn or has passed away, the current law does not clearly say whether that employer funded leave could continue. Good employers still protect parents. Some were aware of the loophole but stepped in at a time of grief and they should be applauded. Others do not know what their responsibilities are and that is understandable as well. Then there is obviously the minority who do not really care. This law seeks to bring fairness to paid parental leave legislation, remove that uncertainty, provide clarity for parents and—importantly—employers through what would be just an incredibly terrible time of grief and sadness in a person's life.</para>
<para>This bill makes clear that if a child is stillborn or dies, employer funded paid parental leave cannot be cancelled or taken away. I will repeat that because it seems pretty clear to me what it is here for. If a child is stillborn or dies, the employer funded paid parental leave cannot be cancelled or taken away. It ensures that grieving parents will be able to have the time they need with certainty, dignity and compassion. It brings employer funded leave into line with government funded and unpaid parental leave. It removes confusion both for parents and for employers and it ensures no-one has to make a discretionary call in the middle of a time of immense grief and tragedy. It also preserves the right of employers and employees to bargain in good faith and to continue negotiating above standard conditions if they choose, because we need to also acknowledge that many employers pay paid parental leave and provide these provisions above the minimum standards.</para>
<para>This law is about clarity and compassion. At the heart of this bill is humanity. As a parent, I can't imagine what it's like, the pain of losing a child—the heartbreak that comes when all these hopes and all those plans suddenly stop. Whether it's through miscarriage, stillbirth or the death of a baby in those early weeks, that loss changes a person, changes a family, will change a community forever. This reform exists because those parents who experienced that and who went through what Priya's parents went through found the strength at a time of enormous darkness to speak up. They could have stayed silent. They could have sheltered their grief. But, like the best in our society, they said: 'I need to use this pain so that no-one else has to go through what I've been through. No-one should have to go through what we did.'</para>
<para>When parents are going through the worst possible experience, they don't need forms, they don't need to negotiate with their employer, and they certainly don't need to negotiate entitlements and policies; they need time, they need compassion, and they need to know that the world around them understands that their grief is real and that they are supported through that grief.</para>
<para>This law seeks to remove unfairness to give parents the time and space that they need to heal. This bill, I think, also reflects the broader values of our Labor government, something that the member for Calwell so eloquently put in his contribution beforehand. We believe in a fair work system that supports people when they need it most, through wages, through conditions, through support, through leave, through paid parental leave. It's a system that we always need to work on, that we always need to make better, that we always need to modernise, just like we did with reforms to our paid parental leave system, including superannuation payments, so that families are supported and that women's retirement savings in particular are boosted. We're modernising the Fair Work Act to make it fairer, more certain and more compassionate. We're strengthening workplace rights by supporting parents and ensuring that the laws that support them reflect the values of our nation. If we were to go and speak to communities right across the country, I can't see that there would be much objection from many people to this law. Good governments find these loopholes, work with communities and promptly fix them. That's what the minister has done with Priya's parents, and that's what this government will do in support of this bill.</para>
<para>Lastly, I'd just like to acknowledge Priya's parents. It can't be easy to go through this. We all saw them in the gallery when this bill was introduced, with the photo of their baby Priya. Listening to the minister speak must have been an incredibly emotional time for them. I would like to thank them for their courage and for their strength and for turning their deeply personal tragedy into good public policy. Their advocacy has ensured that no other parent will ever have to face the same uncertainty they did. Also, we need to thank the parents and families who have shared their stories, many in our correspondence inboxes, in support of this bill. These families have pushed for fairness and have turned their pain into a good purpose.</para>
<para>This parliament often debates numbers and concepts and percentages, but every now and then we pass a law that speaks directly to our humanity, and this is one of those laws. With the passage of this bill, I say to every parent: if the unthinkable happens, you will have certainty, you will have time, and you will have the compassion of this parliament. Through this bill, baby Priya's name will live on not as a story of loss but as a story of love, of courage and of change. That's something that every member of this house should be proud to support.</para>
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    <time.stamp>11:59</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr PIKE</name>
    <name.id>300120</name.id>
    <electorate>Bowman</electorate>
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  <para>I flag ahead of time that I'm only going to speak for a few minutes on this matter. Firstly, I associate myself with the comments of all those who've spoken in favour of the Fair Work Amendment (Baby Priya's) Bill 2025. This is an incredibly important bit of legislation, and I think the intention here from the government is a very noble one. Many speakers have offered really strong, heartfelt contributions on this. I associate myself with them. This is a really welcome reform. But I also want to raise a concern, as some other members have this afternoon, with a feature of this law that has only been brought to my attention today. I want to seek clarity from the government on that through this contribution.</para>
<para>The member for Calwell made the very good point that without this clarity that the bill is providing for parents who find themselves in this tragic situation it compounds the grief, and I thought that was a very apt line. We have nothing but admiration for Baby Priya's parents, who have gone above and beyond to advocate for this change and to provide that clarity. So many Australians face this grief silently—an unimaginable grief—but Baby Priya's parents have taken that extra step up to say that we need to change this. I cannot thank them enough for their efforts, and I congratulate the government for bringing this bill forward, pushing this reform and closing this loophole.</para>
<para>It is about providing clarity, as the member for Bennelong said. The concern I've got today is in relation to clarity of the use of definitions within the bill. The bill makes reference to stillbirths, and it points back to the definition of 'stillbirth' within the Fair Work Act. There have been some concerns raised with me, and there have been concerns raised with the minister in Senate estimates recently, about whether that definition covers a stillbirth caused by a late-term abortion. I hope that isn't the case. I hope that within this bill we are not including that. I don't think that including that is the intention of the government. I strongly support the intention of the government on this matter. I don't think that is the intention, and I want to seek clarity from the government to ensure that isn't the case, because I do not think that is actually what they want to achieve there. I have gone back and read the Senate estimates transcripts and seen the correspondence that has been made by the minister on this, and they haven't provided me with the necessary answers I need to satisfy myself that that isn't the case in this bill. I'm providing this contribution to ask the government if they can provide that clarity; can you give me that assurance that this does not apply to a stillbirth that has been caused due to a late-term abortion? I would welcome that, and I think many in the community would welcome that as well.</para>
<para>This is a bill that should have support from all corners of Australian society, and if we can achieve that clarity, I think we will get there. I want to associate myself with the remarks of the member for Canning, the member for New England and the member for Barker, who have all outlined this issue, and with everyone who has spoken in favour of this bill, because I can appreciate the intention here. I can appreciate the passion people have brought to this issue and I strongly support the intention. I thank the House.</para>
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  <talker>
    <time.stamp>12:02</time.stamp>
    <name role="metadata">Mr KHALIL</name>
    <name.id>101351</name.id>
    <electorate>Wills</electorate>
  </talker>
  <para>I am standing in support of the Fair Work Amendment (Baby Priya's) Bill 2025. I do so encouraged by the fact that we are having this debate in good faith, and with a bipartisanship that is probably all too rare for our parliament—we should have more of that. It is good to see that there is a genuine debate we are having around something that there is bipartisan support for.</para>
<para>All of us, on either side of the aisles, know that we are passing this because we want to make sure parents don't have to make that devastating choice between returning to work or giving themselves the space to heal post the loss of a child. I think we're all in agreement that no parent should have to be forced to return to work after enduring a stillbirth or the death of a child.</para>
<para>This bill delivers on our election commitment to legislate for that continued access of employer and paid parental leave for working parents dealing with stillbirth or early infant death. It removes the archaic sections out of the Fair Work Act which state that, where a child is stillborn or dies, an employer may give notice to cancel or reduce the leave period. Today we are changing that. Amendments in the bill will preserve entitlements to paid parental leave in situations of infant loss by preventing employers from either refusing to allow employees to take PPL or unilaterally cancelling approved periods of PPL. We've heard some disturbing stories on the news during the course of this debate about employers, who otherwise have had a great relationship with employees, suddenly deciding to cancel what had been approved periods of paid parental leave. One of the parents informed their employer and then was told that they had to come back to work in a couple of days; they were only entitled to two days of bereavement leave.</para>
<para>These changes include those who have had children through surrogacy or adoption arrangements as well. The bill is named after Baby Priya, who heartbreakingly died when she was just 42 days old. In the aftermath of Priya's loss, her mother was told that her paid parental leave was no longer available. It's the same story that so many parents have faced. Meanwhile, Baby Priya's father was allowed to take his full leave entitlement. The loss of a child is profoundly tragic. The fact that Baby Priya's mother had to return to work while she was still grieving that loss and that trauma is absolutely devastating.</para>
<para>In the darkest moment a family can have, Priya's parents were still able to muster the strength to highlight this devastating issue through an online petition which they organised, which was remarkable in the courage that they had, even in their darkest moment, to do that. That caught the attention of so many Australians. It was 30,000 people who signed that online petition. The issue reached the desks of key federal Labor ministers, and they knew they had to act. So, thanks to the tireless advocacy of Baby Priya's parents, this important issue will now be enshrined in legislation, and they take great credit for that effort.</para>
<para>We know no parent should have to go through what Priya's mum experienced. Unfortunately, we see the tragic loss in the statistics. Over 3,000 Australian babies died in the perinatal period in 2021. That's about six babies being stillborn every day and two dying within 28 days of birth. Behind every one of those deaths is a heartbreaking period of loss and mourning and grief by the families, with their lives being changed forever. When they face that unimaginable loss, often without the time or support they need to begin healing, it just compounds the grief and pain. So many of them find themselves navigating complex systems and unclear entitlements at a moment when they should be focusing solely on saying goodbye and caring for each other.</para>
<para>Fundamentally, it's important for parents to have certainty about their entitlements at such a difficult moment in their lives, a difficult period, giving them the time and space to grieve. Our government shares this belief, and that's why we've acted to safeguard employer paid parental leave entitlements. The government knows that women should never be faced with workplace insecurity if such a tragedy does strike. It's about enabling confident family and career planning. The bill is another step towards supporting women's long-term participation in the workforce. It ensures their skills and experience aren't lost to the economy when they take time to care or recover.</para>
<para>This reform to leave entitlements on paid parental leave forms part of a broader set of work that we are undertaking toward strengthening the rights and opportunities for women at every stage of their life through their working life. As a government, we've made these record investments to support women in this context as well—expanding paid parental leave to 26 weeks, making it more flexible to share between parents, paying superannuation on paid parental leave, making child care cheaper, opening 22 endometriosis and pelvic pain clinics with 11 more on the way, and investing over half a billion in women's health, including new measures on the PBS. These investments are not just figures in the budget; they demonstrate the intent to make a difference to women every day with respect to their quality of life and their health outcomes across Australia.</para>
<para>As the member for Bennelong noted, there's a lot of discussion here about statistics and numbers and percentages. I've just rattled off a few. I guess that's what we do here. But, as I said at the start of my remarks, the fact that there is bipartisan support across the aisle and there is support across the parliament for this bill is so encouraging. Our actions today make a difference. They go beyond the numbers. They're about honouring lives. They're about helping shape futures and doing what's right for people who experience this unthinkable tragedy in their lives.</para>
<para>Importantly, this bill honours young lives lost too soon. This legislation, when passed, is not going to take away the pain of those who are suffering and enduring the loss of an infant, of a child. It's not going to take that away; that's always going to be there. But it does acknowledge an important issue which affects thousands of Australian families each year. It does provide parents some sense of stability and certainty in their most difficult time. While you can make that time worse, by cancelling paid parental leave—that's one of the ways it happens—we are making sure that time is not worse and that at least they have that certainty.</para>
<para>There hasn't been that legal protection, up until now, to stop employers from cancelling PPL. For parents like Baby Priya's and for every family who has lost a child in that unthinkable way and had that experience, this is going to be a lasting legacy. Baby Priya's parents have been so instrumental in ensuring that occurs. It's a promise that no-one is going to face this pain alone and that they're not going to be forced back to work while they're still trying to survive the deepest loss imaginable. It honours the strength of Baby Priya's parents, whose real courage actually made this possible. It is going to make our workplaces fairer and more compassionate. For that, I commend this bill to the House.</para>
<para class="italic"> <inline font-style="italic">The Federation Chamber transcript was published up to 12:11. The remainder of the transcript will be published progressively as it is completed.</inline></para>
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